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Klashikari
2011-01-16, 14:16
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After the first episode I was wondering where this would go, but after seeing episode 2 I think there is more potential. I'm not too sure how I feel about this series, but I will watch episode 3.
Belgaesh
2011-01-16, 18:51
I think this series is one of the best ones of the season, gonna keep watching.
I_am_Kami
2011-01-16, 18:51
yup this series probably has good potential. Novel readers still talk about it so it has to be above average. I'll continue this.
I think this series is one of the best ones of the seasens, gonna keep watching.
yup
thundrakkon
2011-01-16, 19:54
Nice, an episode 2 discussion thread. I am guessing that since there were so many posts in the General Discussion thread, so they might not be migrated over here to this thread. I will posts some thoughts here as well, even though they could be repeats from the other threads.
So with Ichika's suit performing First Shift in this episode, it begs to continue that there will be a Second Shift some time in the future? I wonder how many shifts a suit can make? Will there be a "God Shift" where he can blow up the world in one slice if he wanted to?
Also, with the map of where the IS suits are researched around the world, I wonder if that is really all the locations? I bet there are some secret locations researching them that are not reported.
That brings me to the missing Dr. Shinonono Tabane. Did she get kidnapped, or did she intentionally go missing? What is she doing right now? Did she develop more or better cores for someone?
Finally, as I mentioned in the other thread, the good old doctor made only 467 cores, which is not only a prime number, but it is also known as an Eistein Prime. I am guessing that is a homage to the most well known scientist in the modern era.
Belgaesh
2011-01-16, 20:09
I think Dr. Tabane went missing by her own reasons, that should be explained in the future, at least I hope so.
ronelm2000
2011-01-16, 20:47
A subforum? =O
Well what I love in this ep is the fight, of which it's not to shabby but it kept most of the action on-going.
10/10.
Aqua Knight
2011-01-17, 10:39
Definitely watching this show.
Girls are cute, main lead isn't a total idiot, animation is smooth and setting is awesome especially sharing a room with a girl.
Overall 10/10 enjoyment even though it is a cliche-harem anime.
germanturkey
2011-01-17, 13:23
pretty wonderful ep. my friend and i were talking about it, and it has a love hina feel to it. maybe its because i haven't watched a good show of this type in a really long time.
Reckoner
2011-01-17, 18:40
Hmm. Checked out this series due its popularity. It is pretty bad I must say.
Every single scene is so cliche it might as well have been the patching together of scenes from 10000 average anime shows.
8/10
Pretty good with the action in this episode, but some things were pretty "cliche" but what can you do about it other then enjoy it :heh:
I_am_Kami
2011-01-17, 21:19
Hmm. Checked out this series due its popularity. It is pretty bad I must say.
Every single scene is so cliche it might as well have been the patching together of scenes from 10000 average anime shows.
8/10
Pretty good with the action in this episode, but some things were pretty "cliche" but what can you do about it other then enjoy it :heh:
besides the harem cliche, what was cliche about the story?
Bobbierob
2011-01-17, 22:30
7/10
I think that although there are many cliches, this show may still have potential to go somewhere. And anyways, compared to the other shows of this season, it can actually be considered good.
Aqua Knight
2011-01-18, 01:48
The IS battle is about to start, and a few visitors have assembled. Pink-ribboned megane twintail on the very left.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3267/infinitestratosep0212.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/infinitestratosep0212.jpg/)
I wanted to say that the only visitors are girls and where are the boys but then I remembered :heh:
entertaining so far as long as they keep the part of the plot moving each episode.
Finally, as I mentioned in the other thread, the good old doctor made only 467 cores, which is not only a prime number, but it is also known as an Eistein Prime. I am guessing that is a homage to the most well known scientist in the modern era.
Sorry but Eisenstein != Einstein.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenstein_prime
I think Dr. Tabane went missing by her own reasons, that should be explained in the future, at least I hope so.
"Final villain materia" all written on her face.
besides the harem cliche, what was cliche about the story?
Osananajimi reunion.
besides the harem cliche, what was cliche about the story?
You didn't find anything about the fight a bit standard?
Antagonist: I'm so much better than you. Take this!
Protagonist: Crap! I'm in trouble but atleast I can keep up!
Antagonis! No way! He can keep up? No one has been able to do that before!
Protagonist: IMMA GONNA BEAT YOU NOW!
Antagonist: Don't underestimate me! *Reveals secret technique!*
Protagonist: Oh shit, IT'S A PIIIIINNNNCH!
*Protagonist powers up*
Antagonist: No way! He was holding back the entire time! What awesome power!
Protagonist: *insert idealistic speech before giving the final blow*
Antagonist: *Defeat Means Friendship*
Otsdarva
2011-01-18, 07:48
You didn't find anything about the fight a bit standard?
Antagonist: I'm so much better than you. Take this!
Protagonist: Crap! I'm in toruble but atleast I can keep up!
Antagonis! No way! He can keep up? No one has been able to do that before!
Protagonist: IMMA GONNA BEAT YOU NOW!
Antagonist: Don't underestimate me! *Reveals secret technique!*
Protagonist: Oh shit, IT'S A PIIIIINNNNCH!
*Protagonist powers up*
Antagonist: No way! He was holding back the entire time! What awesome power!
Protagonist: *insert idealistic speech before giving the final blow*
Antagonist: *Defeat Means Friendship*
That, or the Sixth Ranger comes along and helps the Protagonist with their Moment of Awesome... Or steals it.
Anyways, I'm about to watch this episode, I wonder if its really that cliche as everyone says it is? :heh:
That, or the Sixth Ranger comes along and helps the Protagonist with their Moment of Awesome... Or steals it.
Anyways, I'm about to watch this episode, I wonder if its really that cliche as everyone says it is? :heh:
It is a generic anime series. But then, I only here to watch Cecilia and Chinese Girl. :heh:
Otsdarva
2011-01-18, 11:19
Yes, it's cliche. I give it a 7/10 :heh:
thundrakkon
2011-01-18, 17:08
Sorry but Eisenstein != Einstein.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenstein_prime
uh... errr... I think I need glasses again... :heh:
I am surprised that none of my other topics I brought up has not been discussed more. I know that novel readers can't comment on them since they are potential spoilers but still surprise, nonetheless.
You didn't find anything about the fight a bit standard?
Antagonist: I'm so much better than you. Take this!
Protagonist: Crap! I'm in trouble but atleast I can keep up!
Antagonis! No way! He can keep up? No one has been able to do that before!
Protagonist: IMMA GONNA BEAT YOU NOW!
Antagonist: Don't underestimate me! *Reveals secret technique!*
Protagonist: Oh shit, IT'S A PIIIIINNNNCH!
*Protagonist powers up*
Antagonist: No way! He was holding back the entire time! What awesome power!
Protagonist: *insert idealistic speech before giving the final blow*
Antagonist: *Defeat Means Friendship*
Basically this is what I found cliche about it only so far. But what can you do about it :heh: it can only get better later on.
I_am_Kami
2011-01-18, 18:06
You didn't find anything about the fight a bit standard?
Antagonist: I'm so much better than you. Take this!
Protagonist: Crap! I'm in trouble but atleast I can keep up!
Antagonis! No way! He can keep up? No one has been able to do that before!
Protagonist: IMMA GONNA BEAT YOU NOW!
Antagonist: Don't underestimate me! *Reveals secret technique!*
Protagonist: Oh shit, IT'S A PIIIIINNNNCH!
*Protagonist powers up*
Antagonist: No way! He was holding back the entire time! What awesome power!
Protagonist: *insert idealistic speech before giving the final blow*
Antagonist: *Defeat Means Friendship*
What fight ISN'T like that. What they have to do is make it look cool in between the lines. Even to aru majutsu no index has cliche fights.
Klashikari
2011-01-18, 18:52
What fight ISN'T like that. What they have to do is make it look cool in between the lines. Even to aru majutsu no index has cliche fights.
Actually no. It highly depends how they portray the characters and their reactions in battle. The cool factor doesn't actually force you to lead to this kind of trend (otherwise, even stuff like KnK would be affected).
"Even"? No at all: most fights in To Aru is pretty down to this trend (the fight composition is majorly this way, but that's another topic).
I_am_Kami
2011-01-18, 19:00
You didn't find anything about the fight a bit standard?
Antagonist: I'm so much better than you. Take this!
Protagonist: Crap! I'm in trouble but atleast I can keep up!
Antagonis! No way! He can keep up? No one has been able to do that before!
Protagonist: IMMA GONNA BEAT YOU NOW!
Antagonist: Don't underestimate me! *Reveals secret technique!*
Protagonist: Oh shit, IT'S A PIIIIINNNNCH!
*Protagonist powers up*
Antagonist: No way! He was holding back the entire time! What awesome power!
Protagonist: *insert idealistic speech before giving the final blow*
Antagonist: *Defeat Means Friendship*
Actually no. It highly depends how they portray the characters and their reactions in battle.
"Even"? No at all: most fights in To Aru is pretty down to this trend (the fight composition is majorly this way, but that's another topic).
Its no different than a cliche story. Say the prince saves the princess. HOw many shows have that boy save girl sandwich. Alot, even good ones im sure. Though if u add more to the sandwich (interesting characters,the quest to get there,etc. ) It makes one hell of a story.
Spectacular_Insanity
2011-01-18, 21:35
Hahaha, such a typical harem setup (only man among countless females), but it's nevertheless an entertaining show.
Too bad I can already see Cecilia's character decay from the second episode. THE SECOND-FIDDLE WOMAN HAS APPEARED!
That being said, Cecilia's attitude annoys me... I am irritated by the stereotypical way Cecilia is portrayed as an arrogant English woman.
hoarfrost
2011-01-18, 23:31
besides the harem cliche, what was cliche about the story?
Really? What about it isn't cliche? The characters, concepts, and plots so far are all as shallow and predictable as they could possibly be. Certainly, a trope or two has to be expected and even tolerated, but it might be an easier task to list what about IS isn't just an excuse to invoke a cliche plot device: The mechs not being used for warfare, rather for sports, the only IS academy in the world being in a Japanese high school, Ichika being the only male pilot and having amazing and inexplicable talent beyond that of girls who have been trained for this sport their entire lives, despite not even having read the manual.
It's clearly not an intriguing new take on an established concept like Madoka, it's not a self conscious parody like Kore wa Zombie, it doesn't have an air of mystery or unpredictability and it doesn't even have rewarding fanservice or moe to fall back on like most shows of its league. Will someone tell me what this has going for it at all? I don't really get the hype.
kramerica
2011-01-19, 02:44
IMO it's the execution of the cliche elements that this show has going for it. Plus expectations from what the LN fans have provided.
What fight ISN'T like that.
I think there are plenty of shows that don't follow that trend too similarly. Klashikari is right. I think it depends on what the background to the fight is, what emotions are involved and invoked and what the characters reactions are as well as what it means to them. To Aru Majutsu no Index is definitely not what I'd consider to be a good example since I consider it to be rather standard aswell most of the time.
Its no different than a cliche story. Say the prince saves the princess. HOw many shows have that boy save girl sandwich. Alot, even good ones im sure. Though if u add more to the sandwich (interesting characters,the quest to get there,etc. ) It makes one hell of a story.
Yes it does depend on how it's done, which I think is linked to what other plot elements/tropes/whatever are invoked to give it more depth or uniqueness. However I can't think of anything Infinite Stratos did to give it it's own flavour besides the mecha.
strawberrypop
2011-01-19, 17:48
7/10 I was looking forward to the battle scene more than anything, and it was good enough to keep me watching. I'm starting to like the characters a bit more now. Looking forward to next episode.
Eisdrache
2011-01-19, 19:55
Hmm. Checked out this series due its popularity. It is pretty bad I must say.
Every single scene is so cliche it might as well have been the patching together of scenes from 10000 average anime shows.
Jesus Christ so it is cliche. So what. The setting is solid, the characters interesting, the male lead isn't as dense as a rock, the animation is fluid, the visuals are appealing and the show has a certain 'something' that is appealing to the viewer.
People really are bothered by minor issues these days.
Most likely Reckoner is just like me and doesn't find the setting solid, characters interesting, nor believes that the show has a certain 'something' that is appealing to him.
It's all about perspective. What some people would blieve to be minor issues, other would believe to be major.
And I think the male lead is as dense as a rock. He could see nothing that could go wrong with aksing to be a girl's roommate...
CrowKenobi
2011-01-20, 05:33
And I think the male lead is as dense as a rock. He could see nothing that could go wrong with aksing to be a girl's roommate...You're forgetting that he didn't ask! He was as surprised as Houki was!
I've always thought that his sister had something to do with it... :D
Oh I see. When Ichika said "no joking", I thought he meant "no shit"...
Reckoner
2011-01-20, 12:38
Jesus Christ so it is cliche. So what. The setting is solid, the characters interesting, the male lead isn't as dense as a rock, the animation is fluid, the visuals are appealing and the show has a certain 'something' that is appealing to the viewer.
People really are bothered by minor issues these days.
While Haak summarized my stance on this show I'll explain a little more.
The problem with a show being cliche for me is that I've seen TONS of anime. I do not particularly care for the 100000000th rendition of the same stock characters and archetypes and tropes without anything special to add to it. Right now this show has absolutely nothing going for it. The characters are extremely flat. The gags are not funny. The setting is rather bland.
Also, I don't find the visuals particularly appealing, and the action scene was lackluster so any amount of frames wouldn't do any better for it.
I am unable to see what this "something" is for viewers. The harem + action setup always seems to generate tons of interest. The anime community eats up this kind of garbage easily.
The show is a sad joke to me. That is all. Probably going to drop it in 1-2 more episodes if it cannot offer anything else.
Eisdrache
2011-01-20, 17:54
Well I can see your reasoning but can't help to wonder why you continue to watch anime since you will run into the same problem every single time you start a show. Well that's nothing to do with me so best wishes with being frustrated for the majority of your remaining anime life I guess.
Who cares about the cliche ?
You should know that's what series like this or Strike Witches offer from the start lol.
This is a nice series if its fit your expectation.
Trope galore + eye candy, that its.
Village Idiot
2011-01-21, 03:36
Eh, who cares about it being obviously cliche?
Its nothing revolutionary or ground breaking. Its not Index, nor Clannad, nor Kara no Kyoukai, but you know what?
Its still a fun watch, and thats enough.
Its nothing revolutionary or ground breaking. Its not Index, nor Clannad
I really wouldn't call it Index any revolutionary or ground breaking. I'd rather put it in the "nice to watch, if you have nothing else to do" corner. The arcs up to ep. 13 were only so-so, and only now with ep. 14, a good arc is actually starting.
Same goes for Clannad, I clearly wouldn't call it revolutionary or groundbreaking either - also "nice to watch" category, no more.
IS, on the other hand, while not being "revolutionary or ground breaking" as well, is and has been already much more fun right from the beginning and much more interesting than either of the two :D
lordblazer
2011-01-24, 02:45
That, or the Sixth Ranger comes along and helps the Protagonist with their Moment of Awesome... Or steals it.
Anyways, I'm about to watch this episode, I wonder if its really that cliche as everyone says it is? :heh:
its more like Tenchi Muyo cliche.
its more like Tenchi Muyo cliche.
nothing bad in itself. Tenchi Muyo (Ryo-Ohki) is one of my all-time favourite anime. :heh:
Sixfeetstar
2011-02-13, 20:54
This show is good so far, but theres nothing really knew about it and idk why but the suits they wear in battle kind of bothers me O.O Oh well I'll still keep watching it...
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