Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon - General Discussion

[Duo Maxwell]

Sliver haired Flatchest whose operation went wrong and is also a Tsundere.

Thank to her hair that I did go and look up her information :heh:.
The other I could remember are Kimi, P-01 and Aoi Toori, due to the poster above you, lol.

[dark998]

Ok, now that some decent subs came out I finally got around to watch it. First, the good points:


-MC is very likable
-Lots of movement/variety during the fight scenes.
-Character variety is insane. We got slimes, angels, ninjas, incubus, dragon mechas. Everything is packed here.
-The OST is surprisingly good, I already like +3 bgm plus the angel girls fight theme.

Now the bad:

-Basic setting/storyline seems kinda convulted and this first episode didn't really explain a lot because most of the time was spent in the mock battle.
-Both main leads got quite low amount of screentime, especially P-01s.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Thank to her hair that I did go and look up her information :heh:.
The other I could remember are Kimi, P-01 and Aoi Toori, due to the poster above you, lol.

Lol, embarrassing, but it looks like I got the wrong person :heh:

That's not her :heh:

[Kakkou]

Watched it twice cause I liked it that much. Tori did not disappoint at all. I knew I would like him the moment I saw DAT GRIN and his voice actor. Feels like a while since I've heard FukuJun voice a character like this and boy does it feel good. First episode did well to introduce the humungous cast and their quirks but unfortunately not their names :heh:. Those'll take a while to remember so it's good that their designs range from distinct to unforgettably unique. The battles were really entertaining to watch and well produced plus the awesome music makes them even better. Intoductions out of the way, I'm waiting for Tori to approach P-01s and get the story going.

Oh, and I absolutely love Chiwa Saito as Kimi-nee. Love her performance so much.

[articuzwolf]

Now the bad:

-Basic setting/storyline seems kinda convulted and this first episode didn't really explain a lot because most of the time was spent in the mock battle.
-Both main leads got quite low amount of screentime, especially P-01s.

I think the production team is taking approach to the character, character traits and their fighting skills for episode one

it's like introduction to the main cast (musashi's students)

The iDOLM@STER episode 1 took similar approach and explain everything later

[creb]

Maahhh~ In any case, I couldn't care less with the setting for now- I'm trying to learn the names of all the classmates :eyespin: The only ones I've remembered are Kimi and Renji, everybody else I refer to their class or physical appearance.



Ninja
Boxer
Robot Dragon
Incubus
Giant
Indian Guy
Fat Guy
Money Guy
Blond girl that hangs around Money Guy
Brown hair normal looking guy... Or is it a girl?... Trappish.
Winged-Girl Blond
Winged-Girl Black
Archer Miko
Rider Shy Girl
Lancer Megane Girl
Sliver hair drills Flatchest Girl

If you want a few hilarious translations, go to the official site: http://genesis-horizon.net/

Run the characters page through Google Translate.

Here are some examples that had me laughing:

* Oh Heidi Squatting Valor - The blonde girl who innocently asked if Tori's touching the Sensei's boobies counted as a successful attack.

* Unite internal cross-point - The ninja with his orange facemask and baseball cap.

* Black beast of algae - A black version of the red slime we saw in episode one.

Google Translate does get a few names right (at least, I assume so):

* Makiko Oriotorai - The awesome Sensei.

[Archon_Wing]

Haha. Mildly amusing opener like Maji de Watashi. Looks like it could be a worthy comedy, but I was thinking people were talking too much and some of those character designs ... (boobs)

However, jelly and bomberman-lookalike FTW!

[blewin]

eye candy is just soooo heavy here. Visual overload!

Torri's design is strange... a guy with long earrings, trailing shinny threads from his shoulders? (kind of girlish). Don't really like his face either.

the fights are pretty good though. Quite high tech for a world that is supposed to be in a devastated state!

what's Horizon? is that a place or the name a person?

and is this "ship" an exiled state as said? what does that mean? who the people living there, and why do they have to leave once they reach 18? confusing....

[4Tran]

Horizon - Episode 1

Horizon is the most audacious show of the season, with awesome artwork, characters, plot, writing and direction. Without a doubt, it's been a long time since we've seen such a diverse cast, with subtle characterization that hints at incredible depth and intricate relationships and even sensitive interactions. The only character that drags the ensemble down a bit is the teacher, but her character design reminds me enough of the the rest of the cast that I think we're still in safe hands.

It's also really nice that the creators decided to throw in a large amount of exposition right at the beginning of the episode. This allowed them to easily integrate the characters and the action directly with the larger storyline. Speaking of the plot, it's very interesting that they decided to move a big chunk of exposition into the end credits. This is an unusual move, but it lets them put in extra information without interrupting the delicate flow of the episode. It also means that they have the utmost confidence in their ability to draw the audience into the huge world of Horizion.

All in all, this is an episode that we're going to rarely see. Most creators would shy away from this approach in fear of crashing and burning from the sheer weight of the work, but these guys are made of sterner stuff. This may well be the most amazing show of the season.

[Forsaken_Infinity]

http://genesis-horizon.net/character/index03.html

Oh wait, there are gonna be girls without obnoxious racks in this show, cool.

[Jeffry2009]

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4926/kyoukaisenjounohorizon0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/kyoukaisenjounohorizon0.jpg/)I mean hope we're find out what is it look like on Blu-ray release sometimes.

So, I watched it again, with subs that didn't give me brain cancer, and I have to say...it's really quite hilarious. :p

Normally, I wouldn't give a show that visually screams "Infinite Stratos" vibes so much as a glance, but Sensei and Aoi have me a believer in this show producing laughs. As long as it sticks to the humor and doesn't collapse under the weight of the apparently very complicated source material, I think it'll do just fine, gag-inducing boobs aside. :D

Also, lol @ "..stick your #$*# in the power socket and die!" :p

That sounds horrific to me. Better rewatch that ep1 over & over again.

[Marcus H.]

So the teacher hides smoke bombs on her tittays. Cool. :heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

If it bothers you guys that much just watch the scene again in the PV where it is uncensored :heh:

[Jeffry2009]

If it bothers you guys that much just watch the scene again in the PV where it is uncensored :heh:

I was talking about how perverted that the main protagonist is.

[Chaos2Frozen]

What I can gather from watching the new ******, base on my earlier list of characters these are the ones whose names I could identify...

Ninja -
Boxer - Nori
Robot Dragon - Ulqui
Incubus - Itou kenji
Masked Giant - Persona
Indian Guy - Hassan
Fat Guy -
Poring - Renji
Money Guy - Shirojiro
Blond girl that hangs around Money Guy -
Brown hair normal looking guy... Or is it a girl?... Trappish -
Winged-Girl Blond - Margot
Winged-Girl Black -
Archer Miko - Asama
Rider Shy Girl - Suzu
Lancer Megane Girl - Adele Balfetto
Sliver hair drills Flatchest Girl - Mitotsudaira
Haughty Sharp Tongue Sister - Kimi/Bel Flore

[Duo Maxwell]

http://genesis-horizon.net/character/index03.html

Oh wait, there are gonna be girls without obnoxious racks in this show, cool.

There are half of the girl cast without obnoxious racks, to be fair.

[ninja_pintu]

Just asking, is it confirmed that the second season of this is also one cour?

[Aoi Toori]

The other I could remember are Kimi, P-01 and Aoi Toori, due to the poster above you, lol.
lol, at least Toori is getting famous here :heh:

Just asking, is it confirmed that the second season of this is also one cour?
I think there's still no info about that, hope for more than 1 cour though.

[serpiente]

Doesnt we all live in a world with games where slimes, demons, dragons and all sorts of magic are fictional commoplaces? Mecha-musume series have girls demi-naked with robotics parts attached... Megaman and Black Rock Shooters produce cannons from his arms... Magical Madoka girls go trough paralell dimension at the snap of their fingers, mad scientists travel trough time via sms... So why this show can be so confusing for so many people?

[articuzwolf]

What I can gather from watching the new ******, base on my earlier list of characters these are the ones whose names I could identify...

Ninja - Tenzou
Boxer - Noriki
Robot Dragon - Ulqui
Incubus - Itou kenji
Masked Giant - Persona
Indian Guy - Hassan
Fat Guy -
Poring - Renji
Money Guy - Shirojiro
Blond girl that hangs around Money Guy - Heidi
Brown hair normal looking guy... Or is it a girl?... Trappish -
Winged-Girl Blond - Margot
Winged-Girl Black - Maruga
Archer Miko - Asama
Rider Shy Girl - Suzu
Lancer Megane Girl - Adele Balfetto
Sliver hair drills Flatchest Girl - Mitotsudaira
Haughty Sharp Tongue Sister - Kimi/Bel Flore

adding a few names that I can remember atm :uhoh:

and I think you forget the Full Metal Alchemist automail girl :heh:

[endarion88]

anyone know if will be released a complete OST? is early to judge the anime itself but the musics are awesome!

[Klashikari]

Episode 1 was definitely a huge chaotic mess. I can't say I can praise the introduction and setup, considering how they went fullforce with the characters.

That said, past the issue with all the crapload of things thrown at us, Horizon certainly has a large variety in terms of characters and potential in the lot... If only the design wasn't so bipolar (female characters being either flat as iron board, or carrying watermelons as chest).
While design is a bit simple, they definitely poured a lot of efforts for the animation in general, and the sheer impression of large space (and this is only one part of Musashi, as far as I could get).
But the most noticeable strength of this series is the sheer amount of talented Seiyuu. I can't imagine the lion share of the budget being used up for this, but it is definitely not frugal in that department.

Not entierely free of flaws, it was certainly entertaining as a first episode, and as I basically have no knowledge of the original source and its author, I hope it will have some ambitious stuff behind all of this.

[Dop]

I have to admit I wasn't massively impressed by the first episode, but then again they were just throwing everything at the viewer but the plot...
Will probably give it at least another episode to see if it makes more sense...!

[Concordia]

anyone know if will be released a complete OST? is early to judge the anime itself but the musics are awesome!

I hope so. I keep seeing this anime cited as a "high budget" production so logically OST's/other merchandise will probably follow.

I liked the opening & ending themes aswell. Can't wait for the full versions ~9/11/11.

[Chaos2Frozen]

adding a few names that I can remember atm :uhoh:

and I think you forget the Full Metal Alchemist automail girl :heh:

Yeah I did :heh: Bloody hell the woman didn't even speak :heh:

I wasn't able to do this last Night, but Mitotsudaira's name help me track down the character name list from way back in page 6 ::heh:


Ninja - Tenzou Crossunite
Boxer - Noriki
Robot Dragon - Kiyonari Urukiaga
Incubus - Itou kenji
Masked Giant - Persona
Indian Guy - Hassan Furubushi
Fat Guy - Ohiroshiki Ginji
Poring - Renji
Money Guy - Shirojiro Bertoni
Blond girl that hangs around Money Guy - Heidi Augesavarer
Brown hair normal looking guy... Or is it a girl?... Trappish - Toussaint Neshinbara
Winged-Girl Blond - Margot Knight
Winged-Girl Black - Marga Naruze
Archer Miko - Asama Tomo
Rider Shy Girl - Mukai Suzu
Lancer Megane Girl - Adele Balfetto
Sliver hair drills Flatchest Girl - Neito Mitotsudaira
Haughty Sharp Tongue Sister - Aoi Kimi/Bel Flore
Bionic Commando Girl - Naomasa

[Allen]

A powered-up relationship chart:

http://blog-imgs-43.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/up518269.jpg

[Oryon]

I found correct they have made the first episode to show first the characters, after the world outline. It was going to lose the focus show the characters little by little.

Well, the animation was not top, but it was good. However, when the boxes fall under the characters, the wreckage are reached and turn smaller wreckage instead of alone smoke or vanish like in other anime. In other words, the animation cannot seem wonderful, but it is rich in small details.

[Hooves]

A powered-up relationship chart:

http://blog-imgs-43.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/up518269.jpg

Well this certainly does help explain the relationships between characters :heh: Thanks Allen

[Duo Maxwell]

This must be the first show that main chars' position in relationship chart are so far away :heh:.

There are 2 girls I don't remember seeing in bottom left of Toori's group. Also, there is one vacant slot in his group, too. There will be more character to be introduce later on?

And I might say it already, but I'm digging the 8 captain girls of the ship :D.

P.S: translated relationship charts would be appreciated :p.

[Zodiamaster]

This was really odd.

It was a weird soup of ero, random, highschool and post-apocalyptic stuff put together, I can't even tell if it was good or bad.

[Master_Yoma]

The first episode the there way to may character to keep track off

[mangatron]

Like Klashi, this be another one of my Fall 2011 must-watch series that I know nothing about. Heck, I've only seen previews for 2 shows this season :heh:

What drew me to this series? Naw, that Fall 2011 Chart didn't help, it's thanks to CrowKenobi and that post to the Nyantype/Megami posters, and I saw the Kyoukai Horizon poster, and let me say it here I became an absolute fan of girls in bodysuits after Infinite Stratos, and in this series that became my main prerogative.

Until I saw Sensei. Man, I love that girl. Maybe because she had the most involvement in this episode, but for some reason my chest tightens whenever I see her, and that voice:heh: discarding my confusion over why she wears that tiny shirt over her bodysuit, but I guess what won me over in this ep was the large portion of girls in bodysuits, man I'm losing blood fast and I have no idea where it's going, down or out :heh:

And I laughed when she got groped. I hear that was uncensored in a preview, or is that that magazine scan that I saw recently? Whatever, half my brain went on a tirade over the sudden bright fog that showed up and the other half of my brain wished I was the one doing the act :heh:

Now... I get this strange feeling I might not see much of Sensei in the latter eps... why do I get these kind of feelings these days? Maybe it's because I was crushed by the lack of Airi Bounce in Ro-Kyu-Bu, or the lack of Rabbit pantsu in Mayo Chiki, or...



Ninja - Tenzou Crossunite
Boxer - Noriki
Robot Dragon - Kiyonari Urukiaga
Incubus - Itou kenji
Masked Giant - Persona
Indian Guy - Hassan Furubushi
Fat Guy - Ohiroshiki Ginji
Poring - Renji
Money Guy - Shirojiro Bertoni
Blond girl that hangs around Money Guy - Heidi Augesavarer
Brown hair normal looking guy... Or is it a girl?... Trappish - Toussaint Neshinbara
Winged-Girl Blond - Margot Knight
Winged-Girl Black - Marga Naruze
Archer Miko - Asama Tomo
Rider Shy Girl - Mukai Suzu
Lancer Megane Girl - Adele Balfetto
Sliver hair drills Flatchest Girl - Neito Mitotsudaira
Haughty Sharp Tongue Sister - Aoi Kimi/Bel Flore
Bionic Commando Girl - Naomasa

Thanks for the names, I was about to go on an ineligible spree of nicknames, like for example, Ninja scarf guy = Sacred Seven's Arma, the two winged girls = Dizzy, etc..:heh:

Now as it stands I like all the girls who are in bodysuits :love: Ok if I were to narrow it down, it's gotta be Sensei, Kimi-chan and Christmas Lights-eyed girl Asama-chan :heh: Seriously Kimi-chan, that hair XD

By the way I am a little helter skelter, in case you didn't notice but what is Sensei's name? I'm.... not exactly sane to remember that if that was even uttered in the episode :uhoh::heh:

[creb]

By the way I am a little helter skelter, in case you didn't notice but what is Sensei's name? I'm.... not exactly sane to remember that if that was even uttered in the episode :uhoh::heh:

Makiko Oriotori.

And, yes, while I liked the "sensei", I doubt she'll be a major character seeing as she's not one of the students.

[Duo Maxwell]

Now as it stands I like all the girls who are in bodysuits :love: Ok if I were to narrow it down, it's gotta be Sensei, Kimi-chan and Christmas Lights-eyed girl Asama-chan :heh: Seriously Kimi-chan, that hair XD


Two girls with biggest racks in the show? You're in for something incredible there :heh:.

But can't say I am not guilty about that.
I like the yuri Dizzy couple, too.

Btw, when I was watching the promo, I always had an impression that the ninja dude is actually a girl based on this scene :heh: :
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/th_Kyoukai-Senjou-no-Horizon-001.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/?action=view&current=Kyoukai-Senjou-no-Horizon-001.jpg)

Now I am patiently waiting for this lovely loli, which appeared briefly at the beginning of 1st ep

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/th_07007.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/?action=view&current=07007.jpg)

[Asuras]

Now, can someone tell me whether or not Naomasa is important at all? She didn't seem to get much more than a crate falling from the sky in the way of character introductions. I mean, at least the Indian guy said something.

"Curry! It's hot!"

So, really. I take a liking to her, so I'd be a little disappointed if she weren't in any way a worthwhile character.

[Duo Maxwell]

I think she is, judging from the OP and the PV before. I guess she's just a silent type.

[Panzerklein]

Does anyone hear carefully voice of Makiko-sensei yet? Due my friend said he hear Makiko-sensei voice is Sawashiro Miyuk, not Shiraishi Ryoko :/ .

[serenade_beta]

By the way I am a little helter skelter, in case you didn't notice but what is Sensei's name? I'm.... not exactly sane to remember that if that was even uttered in the episode :uhoh::heh:

I think they mentioned it.
Of course, it was probably also in the credits too.
And something helpful to understand all of the characters is to visit the official website's character page. It as all of the students and some of the other characters that appeared in the first episode. (Wonder if they plan to update it as the many new characters that briefly showed up get properly introduced...)

"Oriotorai" Makiko, by the way.

[creb]

Does anyone hear carefully voice of Makiko-sensei yet? Due my friend said he hear Makiko-sensei voice is Sawashiro Miyuk, not Shiraishi Ryoko :/ .

Sawashiro Miyuk plays Masazumi Honda (whoever that is).

Unless all the typical database sites are wrong, Shiraishi Ryoko plays Makiko-sensei. Plus, it sounds like Shiraishi Ryoko. Just run a recent episode of Sket Dance and listen to Himeko if you really want confirmation.

[larethian]

Does anyone hear carefully voice of Makiko-sensei yet? Due my friend said he hear Makiko-sensei voice is Sawashiro Miyuk, not Shiraishi Ryoko :/ .

your friend is dead wrong. Shiraishi Ryouko is 'my generation's' seiyuu, and I don't even need to look at the cast list to identify her.

[Aoi Toori]

The first episode the there way to may character to keep track off

relax, there are still a lot of chara as you can see on the ending credit, momotarou's post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3645772&postcount=105), and Allen' post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3794465&postcount=527) that haven't make appearance yet~

Now, can someone tell me whether or not Naomasa is important at all? She didn't seem to get much more than a crate falling from the sky in the way of character introductions. I mean, at least the Indian guy said something.

"Curry! It's hot!"

So, really. I take a liking to her, so I'd be a little disappointed if she weren't in any way a worthwhile character.
I think you should ask Allen for that answer/spoiler in Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon [Light Novel] (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=106418) :heh:

[articuzwolf]

Does anyone hear carefully voice of Makiko-sensei yet? Due my friend said he hear Makiko-sensei voice is Sawashiro Miyuk, not Shiraishi Ryoko :/ .

nope, Miyuki's one of my fave seiyuu and sensei's voice is definitely not her

although yes, Miyuki has a role in this anime (important one I believe) as Masazumi Honda (the girl that fainted in the near end of episode 1)

and IMO, sensei's voice is much more similar to Kanae Ito (Ruiko Saten from Toaru Kagaku no Railgun or Wakana Ito from Sacred Seven)

I'm a little bit suprised when I found out that Ryoko Shiraishi is the CV instead of Kanae Ito


Btw, when I was watching the promo, I always had an impression that the ninja dude is actually a girl based on this scene :heh: :
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/th_Kyoukai-Senjou-no-Horizon-001.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/?action=view&current=Kyoukai-Senjou-no-Horizon-001.jpg)


He (ninja) was voiced by Daisuke Ono with his deep and bass-y voice, so I highly doubt that he is actually a 'she' :heh:
she might be his lover or sister perhaps, but wait a sec, it's not entirely impossible :uhoh:

Now, can someone tell me whether or not Naomasa is important at all? She didn't seem to get much more than a crate falling from the sky in the way of character introductions. I mean, at least the Indian guy said something.

"Curry! It's hot!"

So, really. I take a liking to her, so I'd be a little disappointed if she weren't in any way a worthwhile character.

I think the only reason that she was left behind is because from the PV and OP, we knows that she controlled some kinds of giant (mecha?) things...

And it would be too confusing and messy if they have to animate a giant robot chasing a teacher in the middle of the city :heh:

[Aoi Toori]

Now I am patiently waiting for this lovely loli, which appeared briefly at the beginning of 1st ep

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/th_07007.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/?action=view&current=07007.jpg)

hoo? nice design! :heh:
but I think I prefer her design in the anime (http://puu.sh/5BIe). can't wait to see more of her appearance.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Now, can someone tell me whether or not Naomasa is important at all? She didn't seem to get much more than a crate falling from the sky in the way of character introductions. I mean, at least the Indian guy said something.

"Curry! It's hot!"

Speaking out which, is Hassan really going to fight with curry :twitch:? What did he think he was going to achieve when he attacked Sensei :eyespin:?

[Asuras]

What I'd like to ask is what the author thought when he created him. Not only does he further the stereotype that the Japanese so frequently take to extremes, but he just seems like one of those "pointless" characters. Including succubus man and the freaking blob (who is cool, actually, whatevs :cool:).

[creb]

Speaking out which, is Hassan really going to fight with curry :twitch:? What did he think he was going to achieve when he attacked Sensei :eyespin:?

I'm pretty sure his only purpose is to let some select western anime bloggers express faux outrage over racial insensitivities, because we all know Japanese society gives a hoot about racial stereotypes.

:heh:

[mangatron]

Two girls with biggest racks in the show? You're in for something incredible there :heh:.

But can't say I am not guilty about that.
I like the yuri Dizzy couple, too.

:heh: I assure you, my infatuation with those two girls aren't as big as I'm making it out to be XD. Clearly they both had a lot boing I mean going for them with the amount of screen time they had, further fueling my desires :heh:

I could have a change of heart mid season. For example, I just saw this:
http://kurisu.imouto.org/data/preview/9a/ff/9affc215781e28bcc6268b5cd6d7cb08.jpg (http://oreno.imouto.org/post/show/192136/ass-fujii_tomoyuki-horizon_ariadust-kyoukai_senjou)

(I know I'm late) But seriously, it's not wrong for me to look forward to scenes like that, right? Tell me I'm mentally healthy :heh:

And yeah another Dizzy fan :p

Btw, when I was watching the promo, I always had an impression that the ninja dude is actually a girl based on this scene :heh: :
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/th_Kyoukai-Senjou-no-Horizon-001.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/?action=view&current=Kyoukai-Senjou-no-Horizon-001.jpg)

This promo you speak of, you mind pointing me to it? (via PM if it proves unsightly to the rules)

Makiko Oriotori.

And, yes, while I liked the "sensei", I doubt she'll be a major character seeing as she's not one of the students.

I think they mentioned it.
Of course, it was probably also in the credits too.
And something helpful to understand all of the characters is to visit the official website's character page. It as all of the students and some of the other characters that appeared in the first episode. (Wonder if they plan to update it as the many new characters that briefly showed up get properly introduced...)

"Oriotorai" Makiko, by the way.

Thanks a bunch. Maki-chan :love:

I briefly visited the site, but that was on my phone and it didn't like it:heh:. Hmm... the main site. Well if I can't take it anymore I guess I'll go back.

[larethian]

and IMO, sensei's voice is much more similar to Kanae Ito (Ruiko Saten from Toaru Kagaku no Railgun or Wakana Ito from Sacred Seven)

No, no, even though it's your opinion, I still have to comment that Itou Kanae (even in the role of Saten or Wakana) doesn't really sound like that. :heh: (I can always call up Itou's voice in my mind by imagining Fumino :heh:)

Shiraishi Ryouko is actually using her normal speaking / narrating voice. Search youtube videos (白石涼子) and you will find that she sounds exactly the same in her normal voice as in Horizon. :)

[mangatron]

your friend is dead wrong. Shiraishi Ryouko is 'my generation's' seiyuu, and I don't even need to look at the cast list to identify her.

As Mahoraba's (EN) biggest fan, it's no wonder why I recognized her right away. She truly left a mark on me :)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Two girls with biggest racks in the show? You're in for something incredible there :heh:.

But can't say I am not guilty about that.
I like the yuri Dizzy couple, too.




:heh: I assure you, my infatuation with those two girls aren't as big as I'm making it out to be XD. Clearly they both had a lot boing I mean going for them with the amount of screen time they had, further fueling my desires :heh:

I could have a change of heart mid season. For example, I just saw this:
http://kurisu.imouto.org/data/preview/9a/ff/9affc215781e28bcc6268b5cd6d7cb08.jpg (http://oreno.imouto.org/post/show/192136/ass-fujii_tomoyuki-horizon_ariadust-kyoukai_senjou)

(I know I'm late) But seriously, it's not wrong for me to look forward to scenes like that, right? Tell me I'm mentally healthy :heh:

And yeah another Dizzy fan :p


Well unlike Mangatron, I kind of balanced out the bust sizes of the girls that caught my eye.

http://i.imgur.com/e3BEg.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2kHaJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hx6m4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/NueEg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XWrlO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GdgH2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YVphL.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/kYSpt.jpg


I like Kimi more for her sharp tongue and haughty laugh than her other attributes :heh: And these are only the ones we know about :eyespin: There's still that other blue lancer girl with a ponytail (I think) :heh:

The Winged-Girls are cute enough I guess but they are... No, nvm, I'll get into trouble for saying :heh:

[Aoi Toori]

There's still that other blue lancer girl with a ponytail (I think) :heh:

Did you mean Honda Futayo (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/391/391488/c20110803_kyoukaisen_11_cs1w1_720x499.jpg)? currently she's my fav in chara design among the girls :heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

Did you mean Honda Futayo (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/391/391488/c20110803_kyoukaisen_11_cs1w1_720x499.jpg)? currently she's my fav in chara design among the girls :heh:

Yeah, don't know where she stands in the story yet though... And there's the Antlers Lady that's related to her...

[Duo Maxwell]

hoo? nice design! :heh:
but I think I prefer her design in the anime (http://puu.sh/5BIe). can't wait to see more of her appearance.

They look the same to me, though. Just different angle.



This promo you speak of, you mind pointing me to it? (via PM if it proves unsightly to the rules)


Nevermind, that scene was from the OP, I remembered it wrongly. He didn't appear in the promotion PV.


http://i.imgur.com/hx6m4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/NueEg.jpg


I like her, too. Seem like she put all her weight into her hair instead of the busts as other girls :heh:.

[mangatron]

Ah, now my avatar has more life in it :heh:

Well unlike Mangatron, I kind of balanced out the bust sizes of the girls that caught my eye.

Hey, I said I like all the girls in bodysuits, surely that includes the not so well endowed ones :heh:

http://i.imgur.com/hx6m4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/NueEg.jpg

I have to say it again because it is worth repeating:

THAT HAIR. :heh:

I like Kimi more for her sharp tongue and haughty laugh than her other attributes :heh: And these are only the ones we know about :eyespin: There's still that other blue lancer girl with a ponytail (I think) :heh:

Oh I love Kimi's mouth that's for sure. But that's probably my masochist side speaking so never mind....:heh:

Sane question: How does a girl like her put that many ribbons on her hair? :love:

[articuzwolf]

Well unlike Mangatron, I kind of balanced out the bust sizes of the girls that caught my eye.

http://i.imgur.com/e3BEg.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2kHaJ.jpg


stuopidget mentioned once about Asama being a character with the biggest racks on the team and I think this justify that fact :heh:

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_background_images/315624138/asamaaruki.gif

and I realized that there were huge amount of breast size reductions from LN version to anime version

and yet it's still too big for some people :heh:

[Duo Maxwell]

You know this is going overboard, so I'm glad they decided to do some breast size reduction

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51F4sMBROiL._SX300_.jpg

Btw, this was posted in the light novel thread:

Translated relationship chart, I hope no one's posted this before
http://imgur.com/MPvcQ.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/Untitled-1.jpg

This got my seal of approval.

[mangatron]

stuopidget mentioned once about Asama being a character with the biggest racks on the team and I think this justify that fact :heh:

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_background_images/315624138/asamaaruki.gif

and I realized that there were huge amount of breast size reductions from LN version to anime version

and yet it's still too big for some people :heh:

So............ her big ones are in the middle of nowhere? *runs* :heh:

That's not a swimsuit there, no siree. That's body paint, because there's no way that tiny thing can support those big ones! :heh:

You know this is going overboard, so I'm glad they decided to do some breast size reduction

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51F4sMBROiL._SX300_.jpg

Whoa hey what the heck are you trying to give me nightmares!?? That's too big! :heh:

I'm going to flat out admit it right here, Sensei is the perfect size, my avatar is for laughs, and flat is.... never mind the point is i may be having a Hard time sleeping tonight....:heh:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/Untitled-1.jpg

This got my seal of approval.

When darkwing girl grabbed lightwing girl's arm, that wasn't apparent? Only a girl in love grabs the arm of their lover that way :heh:

But yeah I guess what you needed was solid evidence :p

[K3cT]

I have just watched the pilot and I didn't even know that Sunrise is capable of stooping this low. This looks like another fantastic failure in the making in lieu of Dragonaut.

[Shinn Kamiyra]

You know this is going overboard, so I'm glad they decided to do some breast size reduction

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51F4sMBROiL._SX300_.jpg

Btw, this was posted in the light novel thread:

My god, they're bigger than her freakin' head... o__O

I have just watched the pilot and I didn't even know that Sunrise is capable of stooping this low. This looks like another fantastic failure in the making in lieu of Dragonaut.

That's your opinion, though I personally thought Horizon started out pretty well. And if we're gauging in terms with respect to a failure like Dragonaut, if nothing else the animation is quite a bit superior.

Looking forward to how the rest will turn out.

[MrTerrorist]

I'm kinda confuse of the series settings. Does this series takes place on Earth in the past or another dimension? And what was the war that the narrator at the end mentioned?

Can someone give me an easy explanation? Thanks.

[Duo Maxwell]

I'm kinda confuse of the series settings. Does this series takes place on Earth in the past or another dimension? And what was the war that the narrator at the end mentioned?

Can someone give me an easy explanation? Thanks.

Summary in Light Novel thread. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=106418) It also has some parts that can help explaining thing if you can't wait for the next ep.

[Westlo]

Unless all the typical database sites are wrong, Shiraishi Ryoko plays Makiko-sensei. Plus, it sounds like Shiraishi Ryoko. Just run a recent episode of Sket Dance and listen to Himeko if you really want confirmation.

Yep, Makiko is totally Himeko which is awesome.

[technomo12]

OMG

Yuri
Big breast
Flat chest
Stockings
Naked men
and shiny clothes
Sci-fi magics [kinda like Phantasy star]
ACTION
MECHAS
War-era

ALL MY FETISHES ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

[Xellos-_^]

OMG

Yuri
Big breast
Flat chest
Stockings
Naked men
and shiny clothes
Sci-fi magics [kinda like Phantasy star]
ACTION
MECHAS
War-era

ALL MY FETISHES ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

you forgot the blob.

[articuzwolf]

So............ her big ones are in the middle of nowhere? *runs* :heh:

That's not a swimsuit there, no siree. That's body paint, because there's no way that tiny thing can support those big ones! :heh:

LOL I got it from the official twitter (I think), blame the author for everything that wrong in that picture :heh:

I'm kinda confuse of the series settings. Does this series takes place on Earth in the past or another dimension? And what was the war that the narrator at the end mentioned?

Can someone give me an easy explanation? Thanks.

about war

Set in a distant land, Japan is divided into feudal territories, yet conquered by outside countries.

There is a floating city named Musashi that is composed of eight ships in the skies.

The city Musashi that will ignite the flame of battle is being targeted and has no choice but to keep its people safe by entering this war.

With the fate of the world resting on its hands, the students of Musashi may hold the key to victory.

about narrator explanation in the End of eps 1

In the far future, humans abandon the devastated Earth and move to the upper world "Tenjo". But Tenjo and the law of causation collapse by a war and humans returns to the Earth, which has turns into an inhabitable planet except for Shinshu area.

Shinshu is too small to accommodate all the humans, so they duplicate the area and create "Juso Sekai" in a parallel world. In order to rebuild Tenjo and the law of causation, the returned humans start reproduction of the history from B.C. 10,000. When the reproduction proceeds to A.D. 1413, a war breaks out in Shinshu and Juso Sekai falls onto the original world.

The humans living in Juso Sekai lose their land and invade the original world. People in Shinshu surrender and the land is divided by the invaders from Juso Sekai. They try to resume the history reproduction from A.D.1457, but the update of the history terminates in A.D.1648. A rumor of apocalypse begins to spread the world.

[viperdk1]

Episode 0 - at least, that's what it felt like.

Think I need to watch it again - though I must admit, Aoi Toori openly groping his teacher's breasts was comedy gold. :heh::D Just wish it wasn't censored...

[felix]

Summary in Light Novel thread. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=106418) It also has some parts that can help explaining thing if you can't wait for the next ep.Read it... now where do I read the explanation explaining the explanation?

[4Tran]

Read it... now where do I read the explanation explaining the explanation?
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6494/end17991265234a07759425.jpg

Work of this magnitude cannot be summarized. :)

[felix]

What's the lighter there for? :)

[TheEroKing]

incase of something NTR happens :heh: though with a series like this hardly doubt it would :p

[felix]

Ok so ancient history aside, going back to the present, they're students with powers and they need to do... what exactly? Kill off everyone in other nations?

[TheEroKing]

Plot looks to be kinda like something from medieval times actually, people fighting it out to conquer land with some extra elements mixed in like women with airbags instead of a chest, magic, fanservice, FukuJun trying to go against the world yet again, fanservice, dystopia? and oh did I mention fanservice?

[felix]

Fanservice? Breasts? You don't say, I was thinking that was some kind of advanced parachute system; you know right one is main, left one is the reserve. :heh:

Seriously though, people said this was "serious," so I'm giving it some leaway, but it sure is trying mighty hard to prove that statement wrong. And lets face it those 18 volumes could have just been fanservice for what it's worth... it's not like people haven't done more jawdrapponing mind blowing unreasonable things:

2a26016c-Ak
Jump to 44:00 for the more direct analogy.

[Kitsu Breaker]

The fallen Angel are a real Yuri couple in the novel, so I am very happy
Here a nice fan art

http://i.imgur.com/p40GF.jpg

[Duo Maxwell]

Seriously though, people said this was "serious," so I'm giving it some leaway, but it sure is trying mighty hard to prove that statement wrong. And lets face it those 18 volumes could have just been fanservice for what it's worth...

18? Make it 3.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/th_1317734421181.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/SenjouHorizon/?action=view&current=1317734421181.jpg)

The first and second volume have 2 books. The third one has 3.
I don't know about the "serious" part, but as far as I read, it's about the setting that's fascinating.
And Aoi Toori.

[Dahak86]

Plot looks to be kinda like something from medieval times actually, people fighting it out to conquer land with some extra elements mixed in like women with airbags instead of a chest, magic, fanservice, FukuJun trying to go against the world yet again, fanservice, dystopia? and oh did I mention fanservice?

speaking of which, I'm surprised nobody has posted these yet... :heh:

http://thumbnails35.imagebam.com/15280/56fb08152795908.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/56fb08152795908) http://thumbnails52.imagebam.com/15280/42efde152795951.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/42efde152795951) http://thumbnails47.imagebam.com/15280/382d4d152795994.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/382d4d152795994) http://thumbnails36.imagebam.com/15280/31a232152796035.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/31a232152796035) http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/15280/2641d6152796091.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2641d6152796091) http://thumbnails44.imagebam.com/15280/d3568f152796127.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d3568f152796127) http://thumbnails43.imagebam.com/15280/815bb2152796159.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/815bb2152796159) http://thumbnails48.imagebam.com/15280/a755f5152796192.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a755f5152796192) http://thumbnails42.imagebam.com/15280/11bd5a152796214.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/11bd5a152796214) http://thumbnails48.imagebam.com/15280/7c0a10152796265.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7c0a10152796265) http://thumbnails42.imagebam.com/15280/476d19152796300.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/476d19152796300) http://thumbnails16.imagebam.com/15280/1019d9152796322.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1019d9152796322) http://thumbnails34.imagebam.com/15280/824376152796366.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/824376152796366) http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/15280/26a412152796241.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/26a412152796241)

=> not the kind of "fanservice" I can enjoy, but oh well... to each his own, I guess.
as for my thoughts about the episode, I only need to quote this:

Don’t worry, the script-writers seemingly also don’t remember every bit of crap that happens in the story since they don’t bother to mention the whole thing until the end with a rushed summary.

“Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere” tries really hard to make you understand what exactly “in the middle of nowhere” means as its setting is just a confusing mess at this point which is hard to grasp since it’s all dumped on the audience in the last few minutes. The rest of the episode tries to do the whole exposition-thingy but it’s hard to understand why and how these character are supposed to matter. At least it’s nice to know that the title of the show was chosen as an ironic remark…

yeah, not the best of first impressions...
(but let's give this the benefit of doubt for another 2-3 eps...)

[Malkuth]

Sunrise, eh? Needlessly convoluted setting, and an ass-ton of unnecessary techno-bubble to justify gainaxing boobs and a butt-load of money spent on CG... when has this happened before :heh:

PS: Not that I complain, at least it has appropriate female outfits :p

[Chaos2Frozen]

What's the lighter there for? :)

Size reference, like this:

Visual comparison with Index novels

http://blog-imgs-43.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/234_20110901210914.jpg

[mangatron]

speaking of which, I'm surprised nobody has posted these yet... :heh:
http://thumbnails42.imagebam.com/15280/11bd5a152796214.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/11bd5a152796214)

=> not the kind of "fanservice" I can enjoy, but oh well... to each his own, I guess.


I did make an avatar of that, but my connection has been leaving a bad taste in my mouth lately :frustrated:

But it's not your kind of fanservice? Whatever could that mean....

Okay. I got it. The destructive drawback about bodysuit fanservice:

NO PANTSU

Bloody hell Chaos you better not laugh :heh: WHY DID I JUST REALIZE THIS in exchange for my desire to see girls in bodysuits, I must sacrifice the pantsu, the panchira, the beautiful shimapan that encompasses the lower body of a girl! WHYYYYYY
:heh:

PS: Not that I complain, at least it has appropriate female outfits :p

Oh yeah sure :p But I thought your idea of appropriate female outfits....was gothic :heh:

*runs*

Size reference, like this:

Why does my brain hurt when I see this stack? But then again the pain I must be feeling is the damaging amount of text in proportion to the pretty pictures that is included :heh:

Ah but most of the novel illustrations must be of uber-boobs like that pic posted in the previous page :heh:

(ack why did I make my SMS tone a Flak88 lol)

[ars89]

Mangatron i like you new sig, that was my favorite scene.

[Malkuth]

Oh yeah sure :p But I thought your idea of appropriate female outfits....was gothic :heh:

If accompanying heterochromia, twintails, kneesocks/pantyhose... yeah... otherwise, any outfit that does NOT leave a lot to the imagination IS... appropriate ;)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Okay. I got it. The destructive drawback about bodysuit fanservice:

NO PANTSU

Bloody hell Chaos you better not laugh :heh: WHY DID I JUST REALIZE THIS in exchange for my desire to see girls in bodysuits, I must sacrifice the pantsu, the panchira, the beautiful shimapan that encompasses the lower body of a girl! WHYYYYYY
:heh:

Ah well, you can't win them all...


Why does my brain hurt when I see this stack? But then again the pain I must be feeling is the damaging amount of text in proportion to the pretty pictures that is included :heh:

Ah but most of the novel illustrations must be of uber-boobs like that pic posted in the previous page :heh:

(ack why did I make my SMS tone a Flak88 lol)

I could be wrong, but there doesn't seem to be alot of illustrations...

[magnuskn]

If there was a better method to make me not watch this anime than this horrible first episode, I think it has yet to be invented.

Completely over the top, horrible character designs and some of the most annoying characters at first glance which I've seen in years.

Oh, well. There are still some new series which look good. But this was one big, huge disappointment.

[Kameruka]

So funny that the so-called hero only appeared in last 5 minutes of the first episode and even funnier his sister(not sure about their relationship but he did call her as "onee-chan") appeared much earlier than he did.

[Bonta Kun]

Love it!

Pure and simple, love it!

Great cast of characters with great visuals with a great soundtrack.

Tori's entrance was brilliant, I just hope he isn't all bark and no bite.

oh and Onee-chan is crazy, the good funny crazy I can soooo get along with:heh:

Looking forward to next ep and while I'm at it need moar Musashi-swan!

....oh hell need moar of most of the female cast:p

Also looking forward to Kazuno!(is it? You know Miss dancing with gaint metal plates and what I could only guess were tank shells:D)

[Duo Maxwell]

Seem like people's impression about the first ep are completely opposite of each other. Guess that's not a bad thing. Need something out of ordinary once in a while to spice thing up.


Ah but most of the novel illustrations must be of uber-boobs like that pic posted in the previous page :heh:


Actually, 3 out of 7 the covers are flat chest girls, which one of them is a loli. It's just that we only managed to see all those boing in the first ep, which give people an impression that this series focus on girls with huge racks.


Volume 1:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51TNmbMOaVL.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AVw8hPKdL.jpg
Volume 2:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eIgzdBoHL.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51dOyNTaq9L.jpg
Volume 3:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oycQVQM9L.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51bicoLtNcL.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51F4sMBROiL._SX300_.jpg

Only detected 2 lolis so far, and one may not even be able to make an appearance in the anime :(.

[Khu]

This series seems fun at the moment.

Don't know whether it'll be plot centric though, but I'm willing to watch for more awesome sci-fi ninja :D

[mangatron]

^--Fun. That's how I viewed it. I saw a description for this series before watching, and that description was enough to get an idea of the setting. Since what I was looking for was the girls, of course I'd find this enjoyable :heh:

Mangatron i like you new sig, that was my favorite scene.

Oh I loved Sensei throughout the episode, but the scene in my sig iced it for me :D

If accompanying heterochromia, twintails, kneesocks/pantyhose... yeah... otherwise, any outfit that does NOT leave a lot to the imagination IS... appropriate ;)

Now you've just made me realize another drawback of bodysuit girls: the lack of zettai ryouiki :heh:

It's so hard having a lot of fetishes! They're all good but when one takes precedence over the other, I get so confused :heh:

I could be wrong, but there doesn't seem to be alot of illustrations...

In my befuddled state of mind, I was implying along the lines of "lots of text, so little pics" :heh:

oh and Onee-chan is crazy, the good funny crazy I can soooo get along with:heh:

Hey, there's only room for one masochist in this thread, and it certainly can't be you :heh: but really, neesan is so amusing :love:

Actually, 3 out of 7 the covers are flat chest girls, which one of them is a loli. It's just that we only managed to see all those boing in the first ep, which give people an impression that this series focus on girls with huge racks.

Only detected 2 lolis so far, and one may not even be able to make an appearance in the anime :(.

Those covers :love: I gotta say it again: THAT HAIR. Really, I watched episode 01 several times now :uhoh::heh: but never mind the insanity of that, but I always get a laugh whenever I see the girls. This one in particular:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-svB4XVPjvBk/To5qc5z81LI/AAAAAAAACDw/hQNUpmvWSrU/s400/rocketeer.jpg
Look at that hair. She looks like she got rocket boosters hidden somewhere there :heh:

But 4 to 3 boobie covers certainly is a good start. Ahem I mean... I noticed you've been bringing up the loli's in this series. Is that some hidden message for me to awaken my lolitron alter ego? :heh:

[Duo Maxwell]

But 4 to 3 boobie covers certainly is a good start. Ahem I mean... I noticed you've been bringing up the loli's in this series. Is that some hidden message for me to awaken my lolitron alter ego? :heh:

Didn't even know you have such thing, but if it's true, then welcome to our world :p.
And those hair are going to be a pain in an ass to animate. Now if she pull any kind of weapon from inside that hair, I wouldn't even be surprised anymore.

Drill hair is one of my fetishs, though.

[Shimapan]

If you want a few hilarious translations, go to the official site: http://genesis-horizon.net/

Run the characters page through Google Translate.


Google Translate is lame, use the original - Babelfish! :D

aria dust guidance institute three year plum group pupil chancellor combined chancellor and student council chairman protagonist. Motion and study being average, the disabled leader which also both oneself and others recognize.

The bakery of popularity and it is light in the blue thunder cottage salesman Musashi students food house “blue thunder cottage (the blue thunder)” the salesman. The place where it appears aimlessly one year ago was protected to the storekeeper, but there is no memory of time before that. There is no either feeling and there is no either amiability, but you strive for work very with utmost effort, the signboard daughter of the blue thunder cottage.

castle you see and keep The raw serious girl who with Musashi aria dust guidance institute three year plum group pupil student council secondary chairman politician desire excels in argument technique. At one time, man conversion operation was received because of attacking name, but you give up midway with circumstance. With the name remainder of that time, the poor milk it is done to handle the fact that it does not have the chest from [tori].

The poor milk! Will anyone think of the poor milk, please? XD

But the dry character which carries out low temperature vis-a-vis the horseplay around the Musashi aria dust guidance institute three year plum group pupil student council clerk, [romanchisuto], writer desire of history lover phase.

aria dust guidance institute three year plum group pupil student council accounting assistance public and private matters together the partner of margin giro. Always, it is happy, but margin giro in the same way the miser the person.

With black magic teacher of Musashi aria dust guidance institute three year plum group pupil chancellor combined third special duty fair-hair six wings [naruze] sweetheart. Always the smiling face. Freely using the flight ability only of the witch, you engage to the carrying trade.

Can you guess which characters are described above? :D

[Malkuth]

Now you've just made me realize another drawback of bodysuit girls: the lack of zettai ryouiki :heh:

Holy shit, it never crossed my mind :upset:

Then again the last worthwhile one was Funmina 1-2 years back :(

It's so hard having a lot of fetishes! They're all good but when one takes precedence over the other, I get so confused :heh:

Let me clarify...

french maids > twin-tails > knee-socks > odd-eyes > glasses > goths > ponytails > short skirts > long straight hair > large breasts ... and should I go on, it would be too OT :heh:

Those covers :love: I gotta say it again: THAT HAIR. Really, I watched episode 01 several times now :uhoh::heh: but never mind the insanity of that, but I always get a laugh whenever I see the girls. This one in particular:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-svB4XVPjvBk/To5qc5z81LI/AAAAAAAACDw/hQNUpmvWSrU/s400/rocketeer.jpg
Look at that hair. She looks like she got rocket boosters hidden somewhere there :heh:

Still better than the dick that pops out of FukuJun's head in the beginning of the OP.

Anyway, Matsudaira, if I remember correctly, managed even to get a H-doujinshi, thanks to her drills/croissants... [manoya] makkingu - dear my king - if that title makes sense to anyone :heh:

[Shimapan]

Now you've just made me realize another drawback of bodysuit girls: the lack of zettai ryouiki :heh:

It's so hard having a lot of fetishes! They're all good but when one takes precedence over the other, I get so confused :heh:

Yes, that's indeed a disadvantage :heh:
One the one hand side the body suits are nice, but they *do* lack the zettai ryouiki... what to do, what to do... I know, they could wear overknee socks with their body suits :D

[Aoi Toori]

So funny that the so-called hero only appeared in last 5 minutes of the first episode and even funnier his sister(not sure about their relationship but he did call her as "onee-chan") appeared much earlier than he did.

lol, do watch it again, Toori was clearly appear even BEFORE the op start.

[Hooves]

Oh I loved Sensei throughout the episode, but the scene in my sig iced it for me :D

I would have expected you to like that few seconds of Sensei shot :heh: But yes, the Sensei is at the moment my #1 female character in the series right now. But of course, this episode was rushed on details so it can change :p

[AdamEndless9]

I really liked episode 1, lots of interesting characters and the setting. I'm looking forward to the next episode.

[Aoi Toori]

There are some new updates on the website (http://genesis-horizon.net/#).
Story (http://www.sunrise-anime.jp/staffcolumn/genesis_horizon_s/)
Character (http://genesis-horizon.net/character/index18.html)

Wxs5f7hJZtQ

[Kunagisa]

There are some new updates on the website (http://genesis-horizon.net/#).
Story (http://www.sunrise-anime.jp/staffcolumn/genesis_horizon_s/)
Character (http://genesis-horizon.net/character/index18.html)

Ha! They even have a terminology thingy for each episodes (*hint* translators, read these, especially now that episode 2's lists are up). The glossary basically tells you which terms are spoilers and which aren't, sooo

(when possible, I like to involve people who don't necessarily want to spoil themselves in novel thread, so explanation here help everyone)

Plot/terms to take away from episode 1 (not spoilers, the show put up explanation on the website to clear things up, so they probably won't able to get to them in the episode ... maybe). I'm almost certain these glossary stuff will be included in the BR or something, so if you feel the show fails by not able to incorporate these information, that's fine, but I feel you should understand them for future understanding of the show.


WHY HISTORY RE-ENACTMENT?
People have gotten enough power ("like Gods") and rise to the heaven (outer space maybe?) in the past. To obtain that power again is the prime driving force for following history in the entirety hoping to recreate the historical timeline that would eventually cause the re-surfacing of the technology/person/??? that would lead them back to heaven (in other words: I lost my wallet; let me retrace my steps this morning and maybe I can find it again).

I don't think this was made clear at all at the end (partially due to original script and also due to translation of said script).



HOLY SCRIPTURE ("BIBLE"/"HISTORY BOOK") (subs translate this as Testament)
All the re-enactment follow this book. Self-records history up to +/- 100 years. Stop recording 100 years ago, hence why Musashi said this is the end of the world (history stopped recording, got no more history to follow).

Side Note: By the way, if you didn't notice, Musashi ends all her sentence with 以上, which translates to "Over" I guess; she is also the one who made the announcement in the beginning of the episode (but in fansub, they translated the beginning part as 'That is all' instead of 'Over').



EARTH LINE ("Earth Pulse")
One term that nobody translated (not even TAN).

When Asama jumped onto Persona-kun's hand. She said "Connecting to Earth Pulse" 地脈接続 not "Coordinate Lockon". You can't just spam unlimited skill works in here. You need "Fuel", which comes from this Earth Pulse 地脈. The similarity is drawn to your 血脈 (Blood Vessels), which give you energy.

You can call this Earth Pulse or Vessel, but both sound weird so ... even TAN completely skipped over this.



STUDENT SAVING THE WORLD, CONVENIENT PLOT POINT
... not.

School + student =/= our world's school and student. You can be a student in other faction/countries even if you're 18+. Only student has political powers because they are the ones performing re-enactment. BUT, for Far East people, 18+ they got to graduate = no more political power (at least for the moment). This is a subjugation political move on the nation; furthermore, they put in idiots like our MC to screw them over. I feel this is a valid reason why they center on a student cast + having the stupidest of them all at the head position.

This was explained in the beginning of the episode, I have no idea how much people take away from this part though.


That's all I felt that was talked about and people didn't really entirely understand from episode 1 (all from IRC lurking reading conversation; if you guys got all that and think this is a waste of the time, then yeah just pretend I'm that old guy that sit under the tree in the park who talk to himself). Hell, if you understand things differently then say something, because I am wrong all the time often.

Random translation things that bugged me

There's no forbidden attacks, just got a mixed up with 近 and 禁. Mr. "Bomberman" (look at his cap if you don't get why people call him this) didn't use any secret skills in the episode. TAN was correct in this.

Asama's purification ritual is stronger than implicated. The triple protection in the beginning purge 3 negative effects that can affect her arrows: slow 停滞 (by wind or elements in the air etc.), escape 外逸 (aka gives homing ability), and damage 障害 (can't be cut). It slightly bugs me that fansub groups didn't translate this. Once again +1 TAN.

The Earth Pulse translation that got left out is kinda important, because otherwise you would think she can just spam this skill like crazy since it's so overpowered.

Further more, nobody translated this scene (http://puu.sh/6DkC), which on the right side says the summon is Sakuya Type 01. To me that implies, maybe she can summon other stuff but I don't know for sure. HELL HANAMI (http://puu.sh/6AQA) IS THE BEST THING IN EPISODE 1, AND NONE OF YOU GUYS MENTIONED HER (if you did, then not enough because I didn't see it on this page and I don't have time to read back yet ;___; ). Man she should be a permanent summon ...

Some people on IRC got confused by the money guy/twin angel's beginning "combo" attack. That's partly translation's fault too I think.

Money guy: Spend a lot!
Partner: Contract sealed!
Money guy: Here are the goods!

At this point, he throws a stack of combined toriis up, which looks like this (http://puu.sh/6Dlp). TAN translated this.

分 is cent (noun; as in 1/100th of one standard money unit) on top, but means split (v.) on the bottom. To me, I understand it as he used 3 cents (remember he has a whole stack of 'em), and that allowed the Margot to split/modify her missiles into multiple parts. Her "missiles" also feel like coins to me too so ...

Finally, I don't think Herrlich is an attack name (any German speaker here that can clear that up for us? At least I think that's German ...) since you can see it here before launching (http://puu.sh/6DlO) and launching (http://puu.sh/6AZu).


Moral of the story, watch TAN for the "most accurate translation", but fansub group has the best flow imo, because I wanted to beat myself over the head when I see localization like "Owwie ..."


:topicoff:

To explain why I raged insanely at Hadena was:
1) I know the group leader (who could've asked me for help on irc)
2) I can stand people who dislike the shows but can't stand trolls (that potentially can screw up other people's experience), and I totally thought that was a troll sub (just like GG's aria sub ... got enough right and add in random crap in between); the translator has the vol1 of the book now, so maybe the sub's watchable this week. That outburst was highly inappropriate though and I deeply apologize for that.
I got midterms coming up, so try to keep the discussion to more than boobs and asses guys while I'm gone. Not that there's anything wrong with that either :D. Hints should start be dropping here and there starting next episode for where the story is going.
Pre-orders peaked at 10th on Amazon's ranking, which made me and Suzuku quite happy, but sad at lack of timely subs still.
Also lol
http://puu.sh/6Dp8
http://puu.sh/6Dp4
Just that one date on Oct 2 (first day of airing in Japan).

[ninja_pintu]

So politics is the reason why a weak guy like our MC became representative?

And here I was scratching my head as to why someone like him became the head:heh:
But I guess that makes sense.

[mangatron]

I really liked episode 1, lots of interesting characters and the setting. I'm looking forward to the next episode.

I gotta tell you, it's strange, but I've got this series near the top of my list of "can't wait to see the next ep" stuff for this season. I don't really have a good reason why, as I really don't know how to explain it.... it might even be a Bigger reason :uhoh::heh:

But yes, the Sensei is at the moment my #1 female character in the series right now. But of course, this episode was rushed on details so it can change :p

That's similar to how I feel. A part of the reason why I like her so much is because she had the most lines in the episode and she had a considerable amount of screen time to show her stuff. The part I'm not liking is I have this feeling that her screen time in upcoming eps might be drastically reduced :mad::heh:

Yes, that's indeed a disadvantage :heh:
One the one hand side the body suits are nice, but they *do* lack the zettai ryouiki... what to do, what to do... I know, they could wear overknee socks with their body suits :D

That's.... kinda unscientific:heh:. That's like asking a girl at the beach to wear Usami Masamune's thigh-high boots. It may look good, but it's the wrong setting/situation :heh:

Can you guess which characters are described above? :D

I'm not a big fan of online translators, but you gotta admit: "Aria Dust" :heh: For some reason I wonder if this can be a special ability for Kanzaki H. Aria :D

Didn't even know you have such thing, but if it's true, then welcome to our world :p.
I've had that nickname for over 4 years:heh: It's... a long story about how I got that nickname lol.

And those hair are going to be a pain in an ass to animate. Now if she pull any kind of weapon from inside that hair, I wouldn't even be surprised anymore.

I really want to see her and Kimi-chan in the same shot side by side, how's that for an action scene with the two of them. Good thing it's a widescreen anime :heh:


:topicoff:
I got midterms coming up, so try to keep the discussion to more than boobs and asses guys while I'm gone. Not that there's anything wrong with that either :D. Hints should start be dropping here and there starting next episode for where the story is going.


As a non-novel reader, I'm going to have to stick to my original plan and lead the way on the fanservice talk :heh: but what always is my plan B is to extended the discussion for a full week after each ep airs regarding other fun stuff, so let's begin:


Finally, I don't think Herrlich is an attack name (any German speaker here that can clear that up for us? At least I think that's German ...) since you can see it here before launching (http://puu.sh/6DlO) and launching (http://puu.sh/6AZu).


Know that my German is more rusty than it was 5 years ago, but I'm going on a limb and I think she used "Herrlichkeit" (her-lish-kite) [noun]. Some meanings are Glory, magnificence, loveliness:heh:. Then again, Japanese girls speaking German aren't as common as them speaking English so I'm eating a grain of salt now (maybe I need to hear Kana Hanazawa say this word:heh:), but that does sound close enough. Of course, I'm looking at you, Shimapan to confirm this.


HELL HANAMI (http://puu.sh/6AQA) IS THE BEST THING IN EPISODE 1, AND NONE OF YOU GUYS MENTIONED HER (if you did, then not enough because I didn't see it on this page and I don't have time to read back yet ;___; ). Man she should be a permanent summon ...


If someone makes a Rainmeter skin of her, then we'll talk :p

[Aoi Toori]

Ha! They even have a terminology thingy for each episodes (*hint* translators, read these, especially now that episode 2's lists are up). The glossary basically tells you which terms are spoilers and which aren't, sooo

(when possible, I like to involve people who don't necessarily want to spoil themselves in novel thread, so explanation here help everyone)

Plot/terms to take away from episode 1 (not spoilers, the show put up explanation on the website to clear things up, so they probably won't able to get to them in the episode ... maybe). I'm almost certain these glossary stuff will be included in the BR or something, so if you feel the show fails by not able to incorporate these information, that's fine, but I feel you should understand them for future understanding of the show.


WHY HISTORY RE-ENACTMENT?
People have gotten enough power ("like Gods") and rise to the heaven (outer space maybe?) in the past. To obtain that power again is the prime driving force for following history in the entirety hoping to recreate the historical timeline that would eventually cause the re-surfacing of the technology/person/??? that would lead them back to heaven (in other words: I lost my wallet; let me retrace my steps this morning and maybe I can find it again).

I don't think this was made clear at all at the end (partially due to original script and also due to translation of said script).



HOLY SCRIPTURE ("BIBLE"/"HISTORY BOOK") (subs translate this as Testament)
All the re-enactment follow this book. Self-records history up to +/- 100 years. Stop recording 100 years ago, hence why Musashi said this is the end of the world (history stopped recording, got no more history to follow).

Side Note: By the way, if you didn't notice, Musashi ends all her sentence with 以上, which translates to "Over" I guess; she is also the one who made the announcement in the beginning of the episode (but in fansub, they translated the beginning part as 'That is all' instead of 'Over').



EARTH LINE ("Earth Pulse")
One term that nobody translated (not even TAN).

When Asama jumped onto Persona-kun's hand. She said "Connecting to Earth Pulse" 地脈接続 not "Coordinate Lockon". You can't just spam unlimited skill works in here. You need "Fuel", which comes from this Earth Pulse 地脈. The similarity is drawn to your 血脈 (Blood Vessels), which give you energy.

You can call this Earth Pulse or Vessel, but both sound weird so ... even TAN completely skipped over this.



STUDENT SAVING THE WORLD, CONVENIENT PLOT POINT
... not.

School + student =/= our world's school and student. You can be a student in other faction/countries even if you're 18+. Only student has political powers because they are the ones performing re-enactment. BUT, for Far East people, 18+ they got to graduate = no more political power (at least for the moment). This is a subjugation political move on the nation; furthermore, they put in idiots like our MC to screw them over. I feel this is a valid reason why they center on a student cast + having the stupidest of them all at the head position.

This was explained in the beginning of the episode, I have no idea how much people take away from this part though.


That's all I felt that was talked about and people didn't really entirely understand from episode 1 (all from IRC lurking reading conversation; if you guys got all that and think this is a waste of the time, then yeah just pretend I'm that old guy that sit under the tree in the park who talk to himself). Hell, if you understand things differently then say something, because I am wrong all the time often.

Random translation things that bugged me

There's no forbidden attacks, just got a mixed up with 近 and 禁. Mr. "Bomberman" (look at his cap if you don't get why people call him this) didn't use any secret skills in the episode. TAN was correct in this.

Asama's purification ritual is stronger than implicated. The triple protection in the beginning purge 3 negative effects that can affect her arrows: slow 停滞 (by wind or elements in the air etc.), escape 外逸 (aka gives homing ability), and damage 障害 (can't be cut). It slightly bugs me that fansub groups didn't translate this. Once again +1 TAN.

The Earth Pulse translation that got left out is kinda important, because otherwise you would think she can just spam this skill like crazy since it's so overpowered.

Further more, nobody translated this scene (http://puu.sh/6DkC), which on the right side says the summon is Sakuya Type 01. To me that implies, maybe she can summon other stuff but I don't know for sure. HELL HANAMI (http://puu.sh/6AQA) IS THE BEST THING IN EPISODE 1, AND NONE OF YOU GUYS MENTIONED HER (if you did, then not enough because I didn't see it on this page and I don't have time to read back yet ;___; ). Man she should be a permanent summon ...

Some people on IRC got confused by the money guy/twin angel's beginning "combo" attack. That's partly translation's fault too I think.

Money guy: Spend a lot!
Partner: Contract sealed!
Money guy: Here are the goods!

At this point, he throws a stack of combined toriis up, which looks like this (http://puu.sh/6Dlp). TAN translated this.

分 is cent (noun; as in 1/100th of one standard money unit) on top, but means split (v.) on the bottom. To me, I understand it as he used 3 cents (remember he has a whole stack of 'em), and that allowed the Margot to split/modify her missiles into multiple parts. Her "missiles" also feel like coins to me too so ...

Finally, I don't think Herrlich is an attack name (any German speaker here that can clear that up for us? At least I think that's German ...) since you can see it here before launching (http://puu.sh/6DlO) and launching (http://puu.sh/6AZu).


Moral of the story, watch TAN for the "most accurate translation", but fansub group has the best flow imo, because I wanted to beat myself over the head when I see localization like "Owwie ..."


:topicoff:

To explain why I raged insanely at Hadena was:
1) I know the group leader (who could've asked me for help on irc)
2) I can stand people who dislike the shows but can't stand trolls (that potentially can screw up other people's experience), and I totally thought that was a troll sub (just like GG's aria sub ... got enough right and add in random crap in between); the translator has the vol1 of the book now, so maybe the sub's watchable this week. That outburst was highly inappropriate though and I deeply apologize for that.
I got midterms coming up, so try to keep the discussion to more than boobs and asses guys while I'm gone. Not that there's anything wrong with that either :D. Hints should start be dropping here and there starting next episode for where the story is going.
Pre-orders peaked at 10th on Amazon's ranking, which made me and Suzuku quite happy, but sad at lack of timely subs still.
Also lol
http://puu.sh/6Dp8
http://puu.sh/6Dp4
Just that one date on Oct 2 (first day of airing in Japan).

sorry if I fully-quote, because that was... an epic explanation! :heh:
I really didn't know about that earth pulse, I thought they can just spam those spell card magic.

with this, at least all of important thing on ep 1 was explained, excluding some thing that was not mentioned-just wait for another episode :heh:

So politics is the reason why a weak guy like our MC became representative?

And here I was scratching my head as to why someone like him became the head
But I guess that makes sense
it was already explained by the sensei before the training start.

[Haak]

It'll be interesting watching a show with a main character that has to have by far the most faggot smile I've ever seen.

[Jeffry2009]

At the starting length of the OP sequences,

Did he just 'fart' the power energy from behind?

[thundrakkon]

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6494/end17991265234a07759425.jpg

Work of this magnitude cannot be summarized. :)

Is KuroNeko behind all these? :heh: j/k

I really hope the directors and the writers for the anime will be able to sufficiently make a coherent, yet enjoyable, series from the source material. If episode one is any indication, then we are in trouble.

However, I hope to see some better pacing and actual story development/explaination next episode instead of throwing everything everywhere.

The series has potential, so we will have to see.

[felix]

Is KuroNeko behind all these? :heh: j/k* looks at the female costumes

Apparently not.

[serenade_beta]

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6494/end17991265234a07759425.jpg

Work of this magnitude cannot be summarized. :)

They say people with these books have a 5% higher chance of protecting themselves from robbers.

[Allen]

Some details (from the anime thread in the 2ch):

1) In the sign-frame (nobody translated this term yet, I think...) of Adele when she accelerated there was this text under the word 加速 (Acceleration):
http://fsm.vip2ch.com/-/hirame/hira046102.png
It looks like it was a reference to the second paragraph of the prologue of the Gospel of John.

2) When Tenzou (ninja) said "Style: Ninja Forcer, Ten(ry" it had this meaning:

Style = It's obvious, but is the fight style that one excels the most. It's divided based on the range and the type of weapon:

Range = Close range (フォーサー：Forcer); Long range (ガンナー：Gunner); All range (マスター：Master)

Type of weapon = Hand-to-hand combat [格闘師] (クリティカル：Critical); Martial Arts [武術師] (ストライク：Strike); Artificial Body [義体師] (スチール：Steel); Thaumatargy??? [神術師] (エナジー：Energy); Magic [魔術師] (マギノ：Magi). Oh and about the ninja: Ninjutsu [忍術師] (忍術：Ninja).

The same for Gacchan and Nai-chan (yuri couple): "Black and White Magi Gunners".

Hassan (curry) would be... what? A Curry Forcer? lol

[Tatsumi Saiga]

It'll be interesting watching a show with a main character that has to have by far the most faggot smile I've ever seen.


cool story bro.

[Malkuth]

http://fsm.vip2ch.com/-/hirame/hira046102.png

Since it's greek, let me give it a shot: "In the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was towards the God, and God was the Word. This is the beginning for heading to God"

Hm, my greek got rusty during the last six years, and I was never into these christian stuff after elementary school :p

[felix]

cool story bro.Apparently his awkwardness is suppose to be the shows appeal though. :eyespin:

and I was never into these christian stuff after elementary school :p
* looks at sig

Liar!

[Malkuth]

* looks at sig

Liar!

Well, when they replace the crucifixions, torture, blood and gore, with love and lolis, I might reconsider ;)

[Marcus H.]

I'll be scouring the episode with every single unfamiliar nugget that I can find.

EDIT: Here - we - go!

on Okutama Graveyard
• On gravestone with two birds, the surname says "Honda"

on Horizon's gravestone
• The year 1638 TE is written

OPENING
On Toori's spell activation
• 承認, Japanese, "acknowledged"

On Makiko's attendance card
• Azuma has been absent for four days.
• This is Toori's first absence (or rather, tardy count) for the last four days.
• Heidi was absent two days ago.

On Shirojiro's spell card
• 契約成立, Japanese, "Contract Arranged"
• SANCT
• 分30－改, 分割, Japanese, "Segment 30-Revised, Fragmentation"

On Margot's spell
• SchieBerei, German, profiteering
• Herrlich, German, splendid

Under Adele's foot while casting Acceleration:
• Acceleration, English
• 加速, Japanese, Acceleration
• Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν. (Translates to John 1:1-2)

On Toussaint's card
• 通神中, Japanese, Under Communication

While Tomo prepares her arrow
• 浅間神社, Japanese, Asama Shrine
• From Left
•• 浅間•智様、御利用有り難う御座います。加護の選択をどうぞ, Japanese, "Asama Tomo-sama, thank you for using our services. Please Choose from the available options."
••　浅間神社に接続しました。　修祓•奏上•神楽、にて完遂, Japanese, "Connection to Asama Shrine complete. Purification rites, report to the Emperor and Shinto performances accomplished."
••　接続：浅間神社•走狗：サクヤ型01：―確認, Japanese, "Connected to: Asama Shrine — Selected Tool: Sakuya-Type 01 — Confirmed."

[Dark Wing]

Okay just watched this with .... and I have to say if you don't know jack about the Light Novel (like myself) you're going to be really really confused.

I mean it's a great episode but even after reading the explanation post above I'm still a little dumb funded by all this. I will keep watching the series it's just my mind feels a bit overwhelmed.

What I did like the animation and character attacks and weapons they were all good...:heh:

[serpiente]

...

Sunrise not only did Dragonaut but also Mai Otome/Hime which was also very girl-loaded. Guess they need a break from time to time from drawing so much mecha and ugly germanish pilots! But, hey, they managed to put amazing mecha even in here, so no complains! And according to PVs, even mechas can have bouncing breast :heh:. Speaking of which, maybe is for all that bouncing around that some people cant grasp the complexity of slimes being split in half for bad mouthed girls. Or maybe is because bad mouthed girls and badass (or should I say goodass?) teachers arent the random dumb lolis they where expecting for?

So going for some *serious* stuff, It is me or from the cover of LN Vol 2, Masazumi Honda was the one who received the flat treatment in her anime version?
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7034/51avw8hpkdl.jpg
The only thing I cant manage to grasp yet from the whole thread explanations was the pocket dimension thingie, but that just a minor detail in the huge amount of info and good laughs i collected from here!

[Aoi Toori]

Okay just watched this with ... and I have to say if you don't know jack about the Light Novel (like myself) you're going to be really really confused.

I mean it's a great episode but even after reading the explanation post above I'm still a little dumb funded by all this. I will keep watching the series it's just my mind feels a bit overwhelmed.

What I did like the animation and character attacks and weapons they were all good...:heh:

hm just what else that still confused you after read that explanation above?
about event before op? mikawa? horizon? narration at the end?
I think this ep just showed event, opening, some detail about how's the story goes, the training, toori's plan with horizon, narrator narrating about bg story/synopsis on the end, showing someone passed out on the street.

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[Dark Wing]

hm just what else that still confused you after read that explanation above?
about event before op? mikawa? horizon? narration at the end?
I think this ep just showed event, opening, some detail about how's the story goes, the training, toori's plan with horizon, narrator narrating about bg story/synopsis on the end, showing someone passed out on the street.

It's not that it's a bad explanation because it dose help some it's just that I feel that something is a bit off about the anime's attempt to adapt them. Like they were footnotes to be slipped in during this massive P.E. class battle...:heh:

[Hooves]

That was a quick license from Sentai Filmworks..

[Dark Wing]

That was a quick license from Sentai Filmworks..


Big Boobs!?, Giant Mecha!?, Obscure historical background!?

Most likely they're convinced it's going to sell...:p

[Aoi Toori]

It's not that it's a bad explanation because it dose help some it's just that I feel that something is a bit off about the anime's attempt to adapt them. Like they were footnotes to be slipped in during this massive P.E. class battle...:heh:

ooh just some details? I thought what you mean by "really really confused" is about plot like some of member here have complained. :heh:

hm.. not a novel reader myself, and fortunately I'm not a person that like to care about detail that much especially when this anime has a lot of chara (http://genesis-horizon.net/character/index01.html), do they need to explain every detail of their skill one by one? will 13 eps (S1) enough for that? I hope they can, but I have my doubt.

[Kaioshin Sama]

The degree to which a lot of people got bent out of shape about this show around the usual circles had me quite amused. :heh: Personally I quite enjoyed the first episode and the hints at a much more involving story down the road, but I have to admit that I don't really care for any of the characters right off the bat who all come across as a stereotype of some sort and who didn't really have that much interesting to say with the exception of Tori and his teachers. That definitely did do the first episode any favors. The two witch/angel girls and Aoi Kimi especially weren't doing themselves any favors this episode.

Still it's early days and I can already see things picking up next episode with the docking at Mikawa so I'm almost certain to follow this to the end of the season.

[CWW]

I didn't find the first episode as incomprehensible as others found. Sure, there were a lot of characters, but the premise was explained fairly clearly. Basically, in the far future, history repeats itself. It's the first episode. It doesn't have to explain everything fully.

It's like people's brains turned into goo in the how many seasons of mindless shows over the years and then complain when a show has exposition. I actually rather like this approach since my time is now limited and can't be arsed to watch episode after episode amounting to nothing happening (read: shonen). It's not like I take this show seriously anyway, considering some of the cast are clearly supposed to be jokes. Even the main character is a bit of a joke.

I also have to laugh when people can't tell the difference between art and animation. The animation and choreography are quite good in fact. The art and facial expressions are passable but certainly not terrible, though this is up to personal preference. It could do with less CG ships and mecha though. They're quite jarring.

[articuzwolf]

I didn't find the first episode as incomprehensible as others found. Sure, there were a lot of characters, but the premise was explained fairly clearly. Basically, in the far future, history repeats itself. It's the first episode. It doesn't have to explain everything fully.

It's like people's brains turned into goo in the how many seasons of mindless shows over the years and then complain when a show has exposition. I actually rather like this approach since my time is now limited and can't be arsed to watch episode after episode amounting to nothing happening (read: shonen). It's not like I take this show seriously anyway, considering some of the cast are clearly supposed to be jokes. Even the main character is a bit of a joke.

I also have to laugh when people can't tell the difference between art and animation. The animation and choreography are quite good in fact. The art and facial expressions are passable but certainly not terrible, though this is up to personal preference. It could do with less CG ships and mecha though. They're quite jarring.

I couldn't agree more, especially for people can't tell the difference between art and smooth animation

eg: the animation was bad because I don't like that oversized boobs

they reduced the boobs size more than a half already, what did you expect? make all the characters pettanko? *sigh* (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3795066&postcount=557)



if they watched episode 1 and they didn't understand, they are going to start complaining

they forgot that statistically it's only 1(episodes)/13(episodes)*2(seasons) = 3.8% of the total story/plot being told and could even less because story and plot are not distributed equally in each episode

some ppl even said that it was too confusing and has no plot
seriously? It doesn't have a plot and you're confused by it? :twitch:

===

that's just my random rambling for haters that I've been saved until now
now I better run for my life :heh:http://www.indowebster.web.id/images/smilies/ngacir.gif

[Bonta Kun]

It could do with less CG ships and mecha though. They're quite jarring.

Don't know if it's just me or not but I didn't find the CGI that bad, actually seemed ok much like most CGI today, only when it's really bad will I say something but can't say IMO that I found any anime series where it was jarring expect maybe recent Ironman anime but then that pretty meh/bad overall I didn't care whether or not the CGI was outta place.

Everything looked crisp to me but then I've never really had a eye for saying that looks bad or not:p

Animation is very good tho, nice and fluid.

I still can't stop laughing at the Onee-chan, she's a real hoot!:heh:

[Cosmic Eagle]

This title somehow reminds me of Tenchi Muyo a lot

[Dahak86]

The animation and choreography are quite good in fact. The art and facial expressions are passable but certainly not terrible, though this is up to personal preference.

oh, looks like we're on the same wavelength. :heh:

It could do with less CG ships and mecha though. They're quite jarring.

definitely.

[Sin Ansem]

Information overload... it seems both anime that I like this season are essentially "OVER 9000 CHARACTERS" styled worlds.

I'm praying the Horizon anime does a good job of world building, because what I've learned so far makes it sound awesome. Admittedly, I would not have stuck around at first if I didn't spot the yuri angels, as initial impressions were like "impossible to adapt, hence likely to be pretentious".

[CWW]

Oh, wow, Tomo Asama (archer girl) is Tori's childhood friend?

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1930/trollface1.gif

PS. Hassan Fullbush? Haha, that's awesome.

[felix]

I didn't find the first episode as incomprehensible as others found. Sure, there were a lot of characters, but the premise was explained fairly clearly. Basically, in the far future, history repeats itself. It's the first episode. It doesn't have to explain everything fully.

It's like people's brains turned into goo in the how many seasons of mindless shows over the years and then complain when a show has exposition.You provide the explanation to the plot in the episode in one sentence then go on to praise it for having great exposition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposition_(literary_technique))? (which I might add happened in small piece of narrative unrelated to everything else in the episode) The only real exposition we got was, here's a flying ship, this guy is leader, this girl is a teacher and that girl is leader doods sister. :heh: ...in 20min.

I actually rather like this approach since my time is now limited and can't be arsed to watch episode after episode amounting to nothing happening (read: shonen).This is definitely shonen and a fantasy. And maybe action and mecha too, we'll see.

It's not like I take this show seriously anyway, considering some of the cast are clearly supposed to be jokes. Even the main character is a bit of a joke.It's not comedy level by no means, they're just designed funny. At this point, since it's just the design and nothing else, it's just personal opinion if you found it funny or awkward.

I also have to laugh when people can't tell the difference between art and animation.Art is not lines with colors between them. If you want to refer to that use words like Visuals / Graphics. Art is basically anything created with the purpose of drawing out some feelings within you, that's why even things like literature and film can bear the label. I wouldn't call animation art when it's not intended as such, but it's not wrong when you're inferring to only certain moments or the style itself. Or if you want to refer to both the visuals and the animation as whole, art is sort of appropriate.

The animation and choreography are quite good in fact. The art and facial expressions are passable but certainly not terrible, though this is up to personal preference. It could do with less CG ships and mecha though. They're quite jarring.Animation and Choreography are roughly interchangable in the context; the main sense of choreography actually doesn't apply to animated content—but it does sound cool when used I suppose, and sort of conveys the same message.


You should try being more humble. Whining about whining doesn't make you all high and mighty; and to be honest I don't think anyone was actually whining to begin with, it's just your average amount of confusion which every show has.

[CWW]

I wasn't particularly whining, just nodding with Kaioshin Sama in agreement and amused how the guys at ANN doing their seasonal things are a bit contradictory when it comes to production values. Not just related to this show. I know, opinions and all that. Still funny. I know art encompasses everything that has aesthetic value, but I didn't think anyone would be pedantic about it. Finally, I didn't praise this show for its exposition. I just didn't have a problem with it. My main hook is the rather large and diverse cast and decently animated action sequences without talking heads ruining the flow, but we'll see when the plot unfolds I suppose.

[Allen]

Fast-paced, but it was expected. A lot of focus on Masazumi. Unfortunately they cut the Maro/Sanyou-sensei scenes... And the God mosaic almost didn't appear. Why!?

Well, Suzu was kawaii, the ED was simple, but nice... Why Shiraishi's "mouse" is so cute!? Ah, the scene when Musashi entered in the stealth mode was probably my favorite this time.

Next week we'll finally get to see Dacchan, Kazuno, Futayo and "Nobutan" :D

[Syed_Seinaru_Migi]

Hey guys can i ask how many episode for this series...and i heard this series from Light novel..right????

[articuzwolf]

hmm, unlike eps 1...

there are many conversations in this episode (which means I need sub to uds :heh:)

and that MC is really a guy without fear, tension or shame :heh:

kinda surprised that Neito is actually your tsundere flat-chested type

I thought Masazumi is the one who's gonna play that role :twitch:

the plot is progessing and start getting complicated, and I believe it's gonna be like this till the end of this season :uhoh:

Hey guys can i ask how many episode for this series...and i heard this series from Light novel..right????

total 26 episodes, divided into 2 cours/seasons and yes it is

[serpiente]

total 26 episodes, divided into 2 cours/seasons and yes it is

So, 2n cour has been already confirmed??? I somehow skip that announce... Well, That´s great :D!


There is a lot of school activity...
well, not than "active", but it seems to be much more explanation about setting/politics.
It amuses me to see all this rare fellas in a clasroom, they are all in full gear even inside the school :heh:
And the slime sits directly over his desk :heh:

Also there is another

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1117/ep02x.jpg

There seems to be definitely something unther that little jacket!

moment, so we can rest assure that this guy Toori doesnt have any shame,

Not to mention he does even more embarrasing things at the classroom :heh:

Also, from the LN 02 Cover, doesnt this girl receive the flat treatment a little too much in the anime version?
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7802/smallcover2.jpg

[KLGChaos]

Watched the first episode and wasn't a fan. Not that it was really confusing, it just seemed that the whole episode was nothing more than some flashy FF-style filler with some fan-service. The main character, when he finally did appear, managed to make me hate him with the only two minutes he had on screen.

Didn't help that none of the characters received any real kind of introduction or development. It was just a mess that really didn't seem to establish anything.

I did enjoy the action, but felt that the episode had nothing to keep me interested.

[Duo Maxwell]

Obviously there will be people who hate Toori. I even think his design is for that purpose.
But I can't stop myself from liking that guy. That smile.


Also, from the LN 02 Cover, doesnt this girl receive the flat treatment a little too much in the anime version?
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7802/smallcover2.jpg


Vice President of the student council. She's very serious, skilled in debate, and aiming to become a politician. In the past she underwent gender reassignment surgery in order to succeed the family name, but certain circumstances forced her to stop the process part way. Her lack of breasts is a result of the surgery, but Tori treats her as a girl with tiny boobs.

I think they got it pretty accurate if you ask me :heh:.

[Syed_Seinaru_Migi]

hmm, unlike eps 1...

there are many conversations in this episode (which means I need sub to uds :heh:)

and that MC is really a guy without fear, tension or shame :heh:

kinda surprised that Neito is actually your tsundere flat-chested type

I thought Masazumi is the one who's gonna play that role :twitch:

the plot is progessing and start getting complicated, and I believe it's gonna be like this till the end of this season :uhoh:



total 26 episodes, divided into 2 cours/seasons and yes it is

WOW it already decided to make 2 season :eyespin:..haha Toori face something annoying to me something he face make me like him...:cool:

[ookamigirl]

Really fun & interesting anime with lots of action!
Will be watching this one ^^
I really liked the music when they were going/fighting through the city.

[serpiente]

Obviously there will be people who hate Toori. I even think his design is for that purpose.
But I can't stop myself from liking that guy. That smile.




Vice President of the student council. She's very serious, skilled in debate, and aiming to become a politician. In the past she underwent gender reassignment surgery in order to succeed the family name, but certain circumstances forced her to stop the process part way. Her lack of breasts is a result of the surgery, but Tori treats her as a girl with tiny boobs.

I think they got it pretty accurate if you ask me :heh:.

:cool: Yeah, I ve been trough all both the animu and LN threads, including spoilers (and really having fun while doing it, specially here)... But somehow, even in the flat-front perspective of that LN cover illustration, from the "shine part" in chest section I can tell there s something under that jacket :heh:

Well it seems she recieve a lot of exposition here in episode 02, including some touching momments, and by touching Im not referring to Tooris endeavors this time :heh:

Just eager to go through all the fsbs versions again...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Seriously, what the hell is with the half-assed censorship- they white cloud the breast groping scene up close, but leave it completely uncensored from another perspective :twitch:?!

I could watch this entire series if only to see what Toori does next- needless to say from that priceless classroom scene, this fellow gives as good as he gets :eyespin:

...I'm going watch this episode again.

[Aoi Toori]

ok~ watch ep 2 and.... I'm confuseeeeeddd!!!!!
don't understand japanese.
http://uploadpic.org/storage/2011/vzc3gFsSrHB5W6IX61fw4yNV0.jpg

as usual time to wait~~ and hope I can understand later.

btw, after this episode I finally understand stuopidget and Allen's comment about my old ttgl sign.. :heh:

and... found these pics... somewhere...
http://i.imgur.com/i8odM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jTqaf.jpg

[tsunade666]

this anime is really hard to watch while in raw but really those siblings are really something :heh :heh: I haven't seen yet an ane trying to encourage her otouto to grope someone's breast :heh: :heh: I will wait for the sub but it's an epic LOLZ even if more than 60 % of it is "I can't understand what's happening" type of event. Just seeing Toori and his classmates is enough interest for me to watch it in raw and as far as fall season is this one is the only one who interest me enough to watch it in raw.

[Asuras]

and... found these pics... somewhere...
http://i.imgur.com/i8odM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jTqaf.jpg

Ho. Ly. Shit.

I love you.

[Chaos2Frozen]

and... found these pics... somewhere...
http://i.imgur.com/i8odM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jTqaf.jpg

For some reason they don't look that crazy big as compared to the cover page... Kimi in particular...

[felix]

Does anyone actually like the way the girls look in the cover page. They look... freaky. =_=

[Duo Maxwell]

I am.
Aside from the one with HUGE boobs.


and... found these pics... somewhere...
http://i.imgur.com/i8odM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jTqaf.jpg

I like what I am seeing....in the second image.

[felix]

I am.
Aside from the one with HUGE boobs.Those are the ones I was actually thinking of when I said that. :heh:

[Sol Falling]

What the hell, this thread is 33 pages long. Not gonna read through that for a boobie anime.

I haven't really been keeping up on info for this season's premiers but since I found out that Gundam Age is apparently a kiddie anime I've been browsing around for something else interesting. I was originally gonna pass this series up due to comparisons to stuff like Infinite Stratos or Toaru Majutsu no Index but since I am not actually against boobs I thought I'd check out the PV. Looks kinda epic, there is nice action and mecha and stuff. Maybe I'll like it.

The problem is, I can't stand pretentious stuff without the intelligence and narrative integrity to back it up. And at the same time, I can't stand exploitative fanservice unless it's got the genuine perversion/delusion level to match up to hentai. So I would rather this series focus on one or the other, if it is going to pull off either one well enough to match up to my tastes. The brief glimpse I've had is conversely pulling me in two directions. I am not confident so far.

I'll give the first episode a look. I hope it pulls off something amazing, and that's the reason for this thread's length so far. If this series doesn't immediately hook me, unfortunately that will be a drop.

[Suzuku]

What the hell, this thread is 33 pages long. Not gonna read through that for a boobie anime.

I haven't really been keeping up on info for this season's premiers but since I found out that Gundam Age is apparently a kiddie anime I've been browsing around for something else interesting. I was originally gonna pass this series up due to comparisons to stuff like Infinite Stratos or Toaru Majutsu no Index but since I am not actually against boobs I thought I'd check out the PV. Looks kinda epic, there is nice action and mecha and stuff. Maybe I'll like it.

The problem is, I can't stand pretentious stuff without the intelligence and narrative integrity to back it up. And at the same time, I can't stand exploitative fanservice unless it's got the genuine perversion/delusion level to match up to hentai. So I would rather this series focus on one or the other, if it is going to pull off either one well enough to match up to my tastes. The brief glimpse I've had is conversely pulling me in two directions. I am not confident so far.

I'll give the first episode a look. I hope it pulls off something amazing, and that's the reason for this thread's length so far. If this series doesn't immediately hook me, unfortunately that will be a drop.
This isn't the type of series that hooks you immediately, or rather, the first episode doesn't really star anything. I'd suggest three-four episode rule.

[tsunade666]

I haven't really been keeping up on info for this season's premiers but since I found out that Gundam Age is apparently a kiddie anime I've been browsing around for something else interesting. I was originally gonna pass this series up due to comparisons to stuff like Infinite Stratos or Toaru Majutsu no Index but since I am not actually against boobs I thought I'd check out the PV. Looks kinda epic, there is nice action and mecha and stuff. Maybe I'll like it.



First Gundam AGE did have a kiddie animation but the stuff happening is not for kids at all then when did Horizon got compare to IS and Index? I know there's been a comparison of THICKNESS of the book between vol 1-22 of Index and all current volumes of Horizion which makes Horizon despite only 7 or 8 books is as thick as 22 books. But story wise it's pretty different. From the settings the Horizon is more like onto political approach and waring zone between different powers while IS is about girls being cute with mech and Index is being Index without Index :heh: :heh: It's vastly different that I can't shake the idea that who said that they are similar is not really familiar with the material which he/she is comparing.

[Syed_Seinaru_Migi]

Maybe he/she compared the 3 series because all of them from Light Novel's..=.="

[Suzuku]

First Gundam AGE did have a kiddie animation but the stuff happening is not for kids at all then when did Horizon got compare to IS and Index? I know there's been a comparison of THICKNESS of the book between vol 1-22 of Index and all current volumes of Horizion which makes Horizon despite only 7 or 8 books is as thick as 22 books. But story wise it's pretty different. From the settings the Horizon is more like onto political approach and waring zone between different powers while IS is about girls being cute with mech and Index is being Index without Index :heh: :heh: It's vastly different that I can't shake the idea that who said that they are similar is not really familiar with the material which he/she is comparing.
I said they're similar (Index, not IS). I made clear when I said that though that I meant the'yre similar in the sense that they're serious action shows with fanservice in them, not that they have similar plots. And I said that in response to someone saying Horizon is like IS, which it isn't at all.

Oh, and also because they both have a lot of characters and exposition.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I said they're similar (Index, not IS). I made clear when I said that though that I meant the'yre similar in the sense that they're serious action shows with fanservice in them, not that they have similar plots. And I said that in response to someone saying Horizon is like IS, which it isn't at all.

So from now on every serious action (LN) show would be compared to Index, while every fanservice (LN) show would be compared to IS? I guess that's some sort of flattery right :heh: ?

But honestly, I don't think there's another story quite like Horizon when you look pass the superficial points. This is like Extreme Sci-Fi right?

EDIT:


Oh, and also because they both have a lot of characters and exposition.

Yeah, but they don't come at you like a freight train :eyespin:

[Suzuku]

So from now on every serious action (LN) show would be compared to Index, while every fanservice (LN) show would be compared to IS? I guess that's some sort of flattery right :heh: ?

But honestly, I don't think there's another story quite like Horizon when you look pass the superficial points. This is like Extreme Sci-Fi right?

EDIT:



Yeah, but they don't come at you like a freight train :eyespin:
I guess I should make it clear that I wasn't directly comparing the two. Someone Said that Horizon was like IS and I responded that if you were to compare Horizon to another light novel adatation it would be more akin to Index than anything else.

[Sol Falling]

lol, so you can get neg-repped for being unfamiliar with a series nowadays. Seems like this thread is hosting a couple uptight individuals :rolleyes:.

Anyway, I went and checked out the first episode, and I think I will give it the provisional 3-4 test period as suggested. I don't have much issue with being bludgeoned over the head with a character cast and exposition, but what I'd look first for in an obtuse/pretentious series like this is aesthetic. The PV and the title of the series itself ("Horizon on the middle of nowhere") suggested to me a certain aesthetic of the beauty and emptiness of a vast and unmoving universe, with the skyships, etc. further building upon that imagery. Thus far, it is the main character's expression which is supporting an interest and expectation for that aesthetic for me, because it is an empty and unchanging smile which seems to anticipate the immovability of the universe. If the story is set in a vast and epic universe, then I request that it make use of that setting to present some incredible emotional setpieces. Thus far, the potential seems to be there, but I want to be impressed by the execution.

Incidentally, is there anything noteworthy about this being a Sunrise anime? Is there any adaptational element itself being hyped (i.e. directing, animation), or are people mostly interested an account of the source material? Is there any expectation that this will be a worthwhile piece of work on its own merits beyond simply being an introduction to the light novels?

I like the strongly Japanese and Shinto elements of the story's mythology. I actually had goosebumps running along my arms during the entire opening chant/song sequence. On the other hand, it was kind of cliche and eye-rolling that part of the basic premise is the analogue to Japan (i.e. "Musashi") being oppressed (and stripped of its 'rightful place' as the center of the Eastern sphere of influence) by Western powers. Cultural centralism is fine, but I won't be too interested in a work of political and historical centralism.

Well, I hear the next episode will be coming out tomorrow. I'll be waiting to give it a look.

[Duo Maxwell]

Those are the ones I was actually thinking of when I said that. :heh:

There is only one that got on my nerve, and I think you should know what type of girls I prefer in my signature.


Incidentally, is there anything noteworthy about this being a Sunrise anime? Is there any adaptational element itself being hyped (i.e. directing, animation), or are people mostly interested an account of the source material? Is there any expectation that this will be a worthwhile piece of work on its own merits beyond simply being an introduction to the light novels?


Can't say for sure. The most noteworthy element from the high novel is its thickness, and the number of the cast :heh:. I'm just in for the main character.

Judging from the spoiler, the novel does have interesting plot and development, but it's a huge spoiler so if you really want to know, drop by the manga/light novel thread.

[creb]

So, episode two has far less energy than episode one, with mostly exposition that goes over my head (for now). Mildly disappointed, plus Aoi's boob gag was funny in episode one, but if he's going to repeat it in every episode...well, it's going to stop being funny. :heh:

The preview for episode three doesn't look like any action is going to happen any time soon, outside of what looks like a possible betrayal/attack at the meeting of the old farts. :(

[Om Nerabdator]

im dropping this till 4-5 eps are out then ill see about picking it up again, the main character is pissing me off something bad

[NorthernFallout]

im dropping this till 4-5 eps are out then ill see about picking it up again, the main character is pissing me off something badYou're not alone. I usually don't feel hatred for MCs, but this guy just makes my blood boil with the rage of a thousand suns.

--

It was a good thing we got some plot-related infodumps stuff in this ep. It's the only thing I'm watching it for, together with the tech-magi and the ship/world itself. If they can keep that up, I'mma stick to it. I can do with the fanservice. Hell, if I managed through Freezing I can handle this.

[serpiente]

It has been two full episodes, and the main char hasnt talked to the main girl even once... Yet, he has already put his hands over two full beauties like Oriotorai and Neito! Can´t help but love this guy!

Also, what a great place for news ANN is! Just dont ask their columnist for opinions, cause they will tell you that an anime is 1.5 of 5 because it have too much action and too much eye candy!

As for episode 02, what a pain in the brain! Why do they have to explain the setting in class? What a lame device! Well, no problem anyway (except those sbs!) cause the psycho brother´s exotic maneuver compensate for the lack of action of the entire episode.

And also this: En castellano en el original?
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8735/bienvenidoamigo.jpg

I will wait for more and more episodes of this show...

[Chaos2Frozen]

It has been two full episodes, and the main char hasnt talked to the main girl even once... Yet, he has already put his hands over two full beauties like Oriotorai and Neito! Can´t help but love this guy!


He didn't just put his hands on Neito, he actually rubbed his face against her as well :heh:

[Sides]

Am I getting it right, in their society everyone over 18 is considered a pensioner? Or does it mean you are not allow to change your profession?

[Aoi Toori]

As for episode 02, what a pain in the brain! Why do they have to explain the setting in class? What a lame device! Well, no problem anyway (except those sbs!) cause the psycho brother´s exotic maneuver compensate for the lack of action of the entire episode.

I think it's actually a good idea, combining class situation with history/story-telling of the world setting because narrator's explanation and synopsis was still not enough, at least for some people.

[serpiente]

He didn't just put his hands on Neito, he actually rubbed his face against her as well :heh:
Hell yes! Face-rubbing must count as the Bonus Points Kiyonari mentioned on episode 01 :heh:! Thank God Toori hasnt run by P-01 at some random corridor as usual. We can rest assured he will perform his act willingly against that defenceless automaton :heh:.

[Haak]

I still don't have a clue what the fuck is going on. Gotta admit, that *removed* is one funny guy though. He's the only reason I'm watching this show atm.

[Forsaken_Infinity]

Lol, I can't say I understand whatever's going on even though I really tried to. But hell this is a really fun show. That stripping punishment game :heh:

Oh and wth, the only "girl"(?) without huge boobs is like that because she had hers taken away in a sex-change surgery. Le wat the hell.

[serpiente]

I think it's actually a good idea, combining class situation with history/story-telling of the world setting because narrator's explanation and synopsis was still not enough, at least for some people.Well, i ve been through a lot of spoilers here, and yet I cannot managed to grasp that Yusho Shinshuu thingie, falling and getting mixed up with the old fellas here on Earth. So I guess a history class may has been useful after all... But, wait! Why is close-combat teacher teaching history?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Oh and wth, the only "girl"(?) without huge boobs is like that because she had hers taken away in a sex-change surgery. Le wat the hell.

She's far from being the only flatchested girl- Did you somehow miss the up-close-and-personal examination of Neito's oppai :confused: ?

[Aoi Toori]

Well, i ve been through a lot of spoilers here, and yet I cannot managed to grasp that Yusho Shinshuu thingie, falling and getting mixed up with the old fellas here on Earth. So I guess a history class may has been useful after all... But, wait! Why is close-combat teacher teaching history?

hm about shinsuu-divine state, juso sekai-harmonic divine state were already explained on the synopsis on page 1 and also narration on the end of ep 1.

and about sensei, I dont know much about her (ask some master that read the novel :heh: ) but at least bg story was retelled + we can see her again + epic strip...

:heh: :heh:

[Haak]

She's far from being the only flatchested girl- Did you somehow miss the up-close-and-personal examination of Neito's oppai :confused: ?

Hard to see with all that mysterious fog. :p

[serpiente]

hm about shinsuu-divine state, juso sekai-harmonic divine state were already explained on the synopsis on page 1 and also narration on the end of ep 1.

and about sensei, I dont know much about her (ask some master that read the novel :heh: ) but at least bg story was retelled + we can see her again + epic strip...

:heh: :heh:

Kind of like it the way she teachs, actually

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8131/classopf.jpg

Good to know the most usefull tip about confessing to a girl comes from a robot. :heh:
Well, P-01 seems to have some wires and metal parts too, so he may be actually right :heh:

[Marcus H.]

Dat class. :heh:
Actually, building up a wiki to sort all these mumbo-jumbo is the best possible way to understand everything.
Or just call Allen. XD

[serpiente]

I remember having nightmares as a kid about being naked at school.
That doesnt seem to be the case for Toori-kun... I´m now considering to change my avatar to something like this:fabulous[/I] avatar"]http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9922/avataror.jpg

[Marcus H.]

I hope it's not the serpiente that would be focused on. :uhoh:

[Aoi Toori]

Dat class. :heh:
Actually, building up a wiki to sort all these mumbo-jumbo is the best possible way to understand everything.
Or just call Allen. XD

I support your idea.
at least there will be more place to look for people whose still dont understand the story. and hope that picture of naked toori in class will be on Toori's profile...
:heh: :heh:

I´m now considering to change my avatar to something like this:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9922/avataror.jpg

errr... fantastic?
*run

[Syed_Seinaru_Migi]

the punishment Toori receive really lol....he even like that that kind of punishment...not suprised from perverted person....i wonder is every pervert person really like people see he NAKED...ermmm

[ars89]

Sensei has best scene again. Lol Aoi's punishment is to strip in front of the class. First him writing the letter then rubbing Neito was great, this guy is hilarious. Info-dump the rest of the ep was well needed, but still kind of confusing. Sad past for Masazumi.

[Kunagisa]

I still don't have a clue what the fuck is going on. Gotta admit, that faggot-face is one funny guy though. He's the only reason I'm watching this show atm.

Oi oi, don't lie, you are actually in love of that droopy eye, super smug, LADY KILLER face (no lies, I've read elsewhere females find his face "moe", whatever the hell that means; everyone LOVES fabulous).


lol, so you can get neg-repped for being unfamiliar with a series nowadays. Seems like this thread is hosting a couple uptight individuals :rolleyes:.

Anyway, I went and checked out the first episode, and I think I will give it the provisional 3-4 test period as suggested.

...

Well, I hear the next episode will be coming out tomorrow. I'll be waiting to give it a look.

Aww, I'm sorry =(. I think people in the topic are just slightly agitated at the comparison to IS, which albeit understandable can be very frustrating at times!

You stuck around for Medaka and I hope you do so here too :D. There is definitely a story and ... that brings to my main point.

Kawakami confirmed that Episode 4-5 will be "the real deal"/main plot (as expected I might add). (http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-4531.html)

For you guys that are temporarily dropping this or still wondering whether to continue, keep that news in mind!!!

Still haven't watch episode 2, but from what I read on irc, waiting for TAN translation once again might be a better idea. Though from just glancing at previous posts, seems like you can start finding historical figures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Masazumi) in this episode. I guess we can start neta hunting eh.

Also I saw the info dump (his research and planning for this series) image from Kawakami (dude needs to learn how to use a computer for research).

http://i.imgur.com/NMInb.jpg

[serenade_beta]

You stuck around for Medaka and I hope you do so here too :D. There is definitely a story and ... that brings to my main point.

Kawakami confirmed that Episode 4-5 will be "the real deal"/main plot (as expected I might add). (http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-4531.html)

For you guys that are temporarily dropping this or still wondering whether to continue, keep that news in mind!!!

I can't recall the last time some official source said something like this and it turned out well.

[Haak]

Oi oi, don't lie, you are actually in love of that droopy eye, super smug, LADY KILLER face (no lies, I've read elsewhere females find his face "moe", whatever the hell that means; everyone LOVES fabulous).

The guy's awesome. I haven't seen this much troll potential in a character since Izaya Orihara.

[Kunagisa]

I can't recall the last time some official source said something like this and it turned out well.

Oh yeah definitely! This is a series that can easily flop on the side and get screwed like a dead fish in the middle of a desert, but hey we can still hope right :heh:.

[Natsuki Hyuga]

(no lies, I've read elsewhere females find his face "moe", whatever the hell that means; everyone LOVES fabulous).

:heh::heh::heh:

I must say I loled at this, since that exactly what I think!

The fact that I still continue to watch this despite the... Err, nothing-much-happening except lots of fanservice (at the moment, that is) and exposition galore is mostly because of Aoi. *cough* (Though that's not to say that I don't like the girls--Asama, Masazumi and Neito are definitely appealing on the eyes :))

/runs and slips off banana now

[Sol Falling]

Oi oi, don't lie, you are actually in love of that droopy eye, super smug, LADY KILLER face (no lies, I've read elsewhere females find his face "moe", whatever the hell that means; everyone LOVES fabulous).

You stuck around for Medaka and I hope you do so here too :D. There is definitely a story and ... that brings to my main point.

Well, speaking of Medaka and the main character in this being moe, one of the things which has most struck me about this series is Aoi Toori's resemblance to Kumagawa. So much so, in fact, that I'm slightly worried about the epic mindblowing potential Kumagawa will have when we finally get the Medaka anime, now that some of the audience will have been exposed to this type of character. Still, though, it is pretty much exactly true that what kind of character Aoi Toori will be is the principle point keeping me interested in this anime. I can't tell right now whether I should just jump straight onto the bandwagon, or be worried about his sure to be exaggerated popularity.

[felix]

The guy's awesome.It seems he's so extreme the people that would like that really like him, and for everyone else it's SO bad it's good. Somehow the show's sex-changing antics made even more absurd then it already was; basically now we can't even be sure what kind of hell hole spawned him. :heh:

As for everything else. This episode made a lot more sense, though I think credit is due to the people actually explaining Ep1 here then the actual episode itself. Thanks for that. I didn't have the best opinion on the female outfits last episode but this one kind of turned it all around, they're really expressive and kind of amusing in a way; I think they look silly in battles so probably Ep1 kind of started on the wrong foot in that regard. Same thing could be said about the interface gadgets they keep summoning. They've kind of grown on me now that they've been portrayed as an everyday thing rather then the "battle interface" feel they had in the first episode.

Character wise. face was funny so he gets the okey from me; his sister too. Other characters were kind of okey, though we didn't really get much development on that front. I think the main girl jumped to the top, along with sister, now that I know she's some kind of robot—her personality was just too bland, but I can accept it if she's some kind of doll thing.

Story wise. Presentation was better, just because it was more slow and tamed. We also didn't get teased every half second. The world itself ain't looking so random anymore and it seems to be shaping into a decent sci-fi of sorts. If the show gets a half-decent plot it should be good, though I'm sure some people would just still watch it anyway,

[Kaioshin Sama]

It seems he's so extreme the people that would like that really like him, and for everyone else it's SO bad it's good. Somehow the show's sex-changing antics made even more absurd then it already was; basically now we can't even be sure what kind of hell hole spawned him. :heh:

As for everything else. This episode made a lot more sense, though I think credit is due to the people actually explaining Ep1 here then the actual episode itself. Thanks for that. I didn't have the best opinion on the female outfits last episode but this one kind of turned it all around, they're really expressive and kind of amusing in a way; I think they look silly in battles so probably Ep1 kind of started on the wrong foot in that regard. Same thing could be said about the interface gadgets they keep summoning. They've kind of grown on me now that they've been portrayed as an everyday thing rather then the "battle interface" feel they had in the first episode.

Character wise. was funny so he gets the okey from me; his sister too. Other characters were kind of okey, though we didn't really get much development on that front. I think the main girl jumped to the top, along with sister, now that I know she's some kind of robot—her personality was just too bland, but I can accept it if she's some kind of doll thing.

Story wise. Presentation was better, just because it was more slow and tamed. We also didn't get teased every half second. The world itself ain't looking so random anymore and it seems to be shaping into a decent sci-fi of sorts. If the show gets a half-decent plot it should be good, though I'm sure some people would just still watch it anyway, if the silliness just builds up though the series.


I still don't have a clue what the fuck is going on. Gotta admit, that is one funny guy though. He's the only reason I'm watching this show atm.

Wait for better you know what's. Seriously can't stress this enough. It's still a goofy show, but it's at least comprehensible with the official ones.



Also, what a great place for news ANN is! Just dont ask their columnist for opinions, cause they will tell you that an anime is 1.5 of 5 because it have too much action and too much eye candy!

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Yep, ANN is goddamned atrocious with it's previews and reviews IMO with the sole exception of Zac Bertschy who I find to actually be informative, insightful and often amusing. The rest just seems like they don't give half a damn about what they are writing (in other words they lack passion) and just want to get the articles out there and it clearly shows in how simplistic their criteria for judgement is and how much they can par down a show to fit that criteria. I find most if not all review sites and blogs to be just as bad sadly, hence why I now use myself as the primary source of making a judgement call on whether to watch a series and how to describe it to others. After all who better to know my own tastes and interests than myself....someone who also happens to be VERY different in that regard compared to the majority of anime fandom and thus a person whom most reviews can't help or be used as gauge for.

I can't recall the last time some official source said something like this and it turned out well.

Why? Your average shows main plot kicks in around that time usually anyway after the world and characters have been a bit more formally introduced. Sounds like standard operating procedure to me as opposed to something to be apprehensive about.

[felix]

Reviews, at least the ones that throw a number at the end, are pretty dumb in general...
but exactly what faggotry are we talking about here?Don't care, as long as it's funny. It's pretty hard to pull stunts like this off and make me laugh, since I'm the pretty hard headed, but this episode managed so hopefully the show can keep up the act.

I seem to have stumbled onto a 4chan inspired post. :heh:Don't go there, and never will. It's like some kind of troll network of mindless banter and horny teens. Not my cup of tea.

Wait for better you know what's. Seriously can't stress this enough. It's still a goofy show, but it's at least comprehensible with the official ones.Don't hype it up too much, or we'll certainly be disappointed...

BTW why are you typing double spaces? You know this is HTML and two or more spaces get converted to one right? There's a way to get double-space after period but it's kind of pointless really. The only time you want double spaces is when your font sucks, and we're well past that age. Just let the habit die already.

[Suzuku]

Dat class. :heh:
Actually, building up a wiki to sort all these mumbo-jumbo is the best possible way to understand everything.
Or just call Allen. XD
Someone is translating all the info dump stuff and posting it here.

http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/

I suggest we all take a look at that, he even translated the Far East Lesson 1 vid from the official site. Also, at this rate of posting and increasing of the thread view count, this seems on track to get its own sub-forum. That would be extremely helpful for sorting out info.

[chaos_animagic]

The world of Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon seems very interesting... I wish I was in it....

Everyone have a sort of special power or techniques....

[felix]

@Suzuku

Awesome. Thanks.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Don't hype it up too much, or we'll certainly be disappointed...

BTW why are you typing double spaces? You know this is HTML and two or more spaces get converted to one right? There's a way to get double-space after period but it's kind of pointless really. The only time you want double spaces is when your font sucks, and we're well past that age. Just let the habit die already.

Believe it or not I'm not trying to hype anything up since I barely know the franchise unlike with Gundam AGE for example. For stuff like that and details and what not I think you might want to talk to stuopidget before anyone else. I just think it's better that people get the best possible understanding of a show and considering this show has had something of a borked release I don't think it can hurt to try and throw in a few hints like say....watch the official TAN release as opposed to bad illegal you know what's.

[serpiente]

Someone is translating all the info dump stuff and posting it here.

http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/

I suggest we all take a look at that, he even translated the Far East Lesson 1 vid from the official site. Also, at this rate of posting and increasing of the thread view count, this seems on track to get its own sub-forum. That would be extremely helpful for sorting out info.

Thats great! Maybe now even some hadena guys can pass by by it :heh:

I got the feeling that for "decent" they have this standard:
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/2256/decentguy.jpg

Onto the fun side of things, For some reason, I can totally imgine Kimi (I mean Belfiore) onee-chan asking Toori to seize her breast and give his judgement, with it being not incestuous at all. Both are so beyond limits that an act like that could be just everyday´s routine. Not to say everything is so over the top. Could it be the first time I saw in an anime a pervert mecha like Kishonari :twitch: (well except for Masamune Shirow cyborgs), but hey! This guy looks plain robotic!

I bet the writer of Horizon plays Disgaea in his spare time, that is, if he has any time to spare! :heh:

And poor Masazumi, indeed! Not so for her past, but she is one of the few flatchested girls in this era, and happens to be probably in love with a breast grabbing, LN obsessed guy like Toori. That s a source of drama!

Very strangely, nowadays fast action-paced, flamboyant animated episodes ones seems to be not so popular as episodes with boring people talkin with hardly any animation in it...

[felix]

I bet the writer of Horizon plays Disgaea in his spare time, that is, if he has any time to spare! :heh:And why's that? I'm not really seeing any resemblance at all. There's no bloodthirsty prinies, no demon lords, and more importantly... no sardines!! I suppose the randomness of the cast somehow resembles Disgaea, but still no. The closest thing it has to Disgaea is the way the setting works. The whole monsters and human-looking character living together, but that's more of a generic theme that isn't really Disgaea specific.

Very strangely, nowadays fast action-paced, flamboyant animated episodes ones seems to be not so popular as episodes with boring people talkin with hardly any animation in it...NO, it's just "good episodes" versus "bad episodes". Fighting or no fighting doesn't make any difference on whether an episode is good or bad; it's merely a presentation prop that's sometimes necessary. If the studio did that fighting sequence last episode for this purpose then all I can say is they gracefully failed to get any point across, since it was all pretty deaf plot wise.

[CWW]

I haven't watched episode two yet, but why are people using the word faggot like five times in a sentence? It it part of some meme I'm not aware of? Either way it's dumb and you should all feel bad.

[Kusa-San]

Can someone explain me how Aoi Toori is the president ? What is exactly the power of a president ? WTF is going on in this anime :eyespin: :heh:

I don't even undertand the summary of the first page :


In the far future, humans abandon the devastated Earth and move to the upper world "Tenjo". But Tenjo and the law of causation collapse by a war and humans returns to the Earth, which has turns into an inhabitable planet except for Shinshu area. Shinshu is too small to accommodate all the humans, so they duplicate the are and create "Juso Sekai". In order to rebuild Tenjo and the law of causation, the returned humans start reproduction of history from B.C. 10,000. When the reproduction completes until A.D. 1413, a war breaks out in Shinshu and Juso Sekai falls onto the original world. The humans living in Juso Sekai lose their land and invade the original world. People in Shinshu surrender and is divided by the invaders from Juso Sekai. They try to resume the history reproduction from A.D.1457, but the update of history terminates in A.D.1648. A rumor of apocalypse begins to spread the world.


WTF ? What is Tenjo ? The law of causation ? They duplicate what ? Juso Sekai ? Repdouction of history ? :twitch:

[felix]

Can someone explain me how Aoi Toori is the president ?Some kind of eroge-addiction and because he's a hentai as I understand it.

What is exactly the power of a president ?Aside from groping and telling everyone else what to do, it would seem he has no power whatsoever.

WTF is going on in this anime :eyespin: :heh:

I don't even undertand the summary of the first pageNobody but the people already in the-know does. Just read this info-thing http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/ and this very informative post http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3796440&postcount=598 by stuopidget.

Just fair warning, when you understand it, you'll actually understand it even less then you do now. :heh:

I haven't watched episode two yet, but why are people using the word faggot like five times in a sentence? It it part of some meme I'm not aware of?Go watch the episode.

Either way it's dumb and you should all feel bad.I would feel bad watching his character and not using it...

[serpiente]

And why's that? I'm not really seeing any resemblance at all. There's no bloodthirsty prinies, no demon lords, and more importantly... no sardines!! I suppose the randomness of the cast somehow resembles Disgaea, but still no. The closest thing it has to Disgaea is the way the setting works. The whole monsters and human-looking character living together, but that's more of a generic theme that isn't really Disgaea specific.

Well, it doesnt have to be an exact copy. It happens to give me the same vibes, from the parodic/absurd setting, to the stereotype´s mix of characters, charas designs and flat chested jokes.

NO, it's just "good episodes" versus "bad episodes". Fighting or no fighting doesn't make any difference on whether an episode is good or bad; it's merely a presentation prop that's sometimes necessary. If the studio did that fighting sequence last episode for this purpose then all I can say is they gracefully failed to get any point across, since it was all pretty deaf plot wise.

:heh: Im happy I said "more popular", and not "good" and "bad". Flamboyant animation is very good wellcomed when you are watching anime, at least for me.

[Suzuku]

Can someone explain me how Aoi Toori is the president ? What is exactly the power of a president ? WTF is going on in this anime :eyespin: :heh:

I don't even undertand the summary of the first page :



WTF ? What is Tenjo ? The law of causation ? They duplicate what ? Juso Sekai ? Repdouction of history ? :twitch:
All of this was explained in detail in episode 2 and briefly in episode 1. Pay extra attention to the dialogue.

[felix]

Well, it doesnt have to be an exact copy. It happens to give me the same vibes, from the parodic/absurd setting, to the stereotype´s mix of characters, charas designs and flat chested jokes.I still find it hard to see the resemblence. Jokes in Disgaea are far less indiscreet. Yes there's lots of slapstick comedy but it's very classy slapstick comedy most of the time, not like in this show.

[com_gwp]

All of this was explained in detail in episode 2 and briefly in episode 1. Pay extra attention to the dialogue.

Sadly they're not doing a very good job of explaining what exactly is going on in this world. The whole classroom scene went way over my head with the terminologies and incomplete explanations. :heh:

[creb]

Sadly they're not doing a very good job of explaining what exactly is going on in this world. The whole classroom scene went way over my head with the terminologies and incomplete explanations. :heh:

In the far future, humans abandon a devastated Earth and traveled to outer space. However, due to unknown phenomenon that prevents them from traveling into space, humanity returns to Earth only to find it inhospitable except for Japan.

To accomodate the entire human population, pocket dimensions are created around Japan to house in the populace. In order to find a way to return to outer space, the humans began reenacting human history according to the Holy book Testament. But in the year 1413 of the Testament Era, the nations of the pocket dimensions invade and conquer Japan, dividing the territory into feudal fiefdoms and forcing the original inhabitants of Japan to leave.

It is now the year 1648 of the Testament Era, the refugees of Japan now live in the city ship Musashi, where it constantly travels around Japan while being watched by the Testament Union, the authority that runs the re-enactment of history. However, rumors of an apocalypse and war begins to spread when the Testament stops revealing what happens next after 1648. Taking advantage of this situation, Tori Aoi, head of Musashi Ariadust Academy's Supreme Federation and President of the student council, leads his fellow classmates to use this opportunity to regain their homeland.

Taken from Wikipedia. And, no, I have no idea how re-enacting history is supposed to solve anything, but in the context of this fictional universe, the inhabitants believe it, so I'll just accept that it's a fundamental law of how their world works. :heh: Also, there's an interview somewhere where they say the story doesn't really start until episode 4. So enjoy the fanservice for now I guess.

[Suzuku]

Sadly they're not doing a very good job of explaining what exactly is going on in this world. The whole classroom scene went way over my head with the terminologies and incomplete explanations. :heh:
I think they're doing a fine job, they're telling you the information straightforward. The explanations aren't incomplete, they just tell the details as they fit in the context of the conversation they're having. As for the terminologies, they explained them in the class explanation as well (if you're talking about the references to the Divine and Harmonic states). Rather than the anime not doing a good job of explaining, I just think people zone-out in the middle of the infodumps and cease attempting to pay attention to what's being said.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Conventionally people wants to know what's going on in the world then zoom in to the characters, but in this case I'm not going to bother with the world setting yet- I'm going to start with the individual characters then slowly zoom out into the greater world setting. As far as I'm concern, this is an extreme Fantasy/Sci-Fi story where people live on ships because the world is uninhabitable in most places and humans aren't the only sentient beings - full stop.

As for politics, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

[Xellos-_^]

Sadly they're not doing a very good job of explaining what exactly is going on in this world. The whole classroom scene went way over my head with the terminologies and incomplete explanations. :heh:

i thought they did a very good job of it form the prologue in Ep1 and then the history class in ep2.

Incomplete explanations means there is more to the story, which means more explanations later on.

[Suzuku]

where people live on ships because the world is uninhabitable in most places
This isn't really correct. As far as we know, Musashi is the only ship that doubles as a city. All the other countries have their own respective lands in the Far East.

[Kusa-San]

Some kind of eroge-addiction and because he's a hentai as I understand it.

Aside from groping and telling everyone else what to do, it would seem he has no power whatsoever.

Nobody but the people already in the-know does. Just read this info-thing http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/ and this very informative post http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3796440&postcount=598 by stuopidget.

Just fair warning, when you understand it, you'll actually understand it even less then you do now. :heh:.

Ah ah tahnks for the link, it's a little cleraly now :heh:

All of this was explained in detail in episode 2 and briefly in episode 1. Pay extra attention to the dialogue.

I pay attention to the dialogue but english is not my native language and I don't have much time with me for anime. I have a real life too.

Sadly they're not doing a very good job of explaining what exactly is going on in this world. The whole classroom scene went way over my head with the terminologies and incomplete explanations. :heh:

Glad I'm not the only one who think that :heh:

In the far future, humans abandon a devastated Earth and traveled to outer space. However, due to unknown phenomenon that prevents them from traveling into space, humanity returns to Earth only to find it inhospitable except for Japan.

To accomodate the entire human population, pocket dimensions are created around Japan to house in the populace. In order to find a way to return to outer space, the humans began reenacting human history according to the Holy book Testament. But in the year 1413 of the Testament Era, the nations of the pocket dimensions invade and conquer Japan, dividing the territory into feudal fiefdoms and forcing the original inhabitants of Japan to leave.

It is now the year 1648 of the Testament Era, the refugees of Japan now live in the city ship Musashi, where it constantly travels around Japan while being watched by the Testament Union, the authority that runs the re-enactment of history. However, rumors of an apocalypse and war begins to spread when the Testament stops revealing what happens next after 1648. Taking advantage of this situation, Tori Aoi, head of Musashi Ariadust Academy's Supreme Federation and President of the student council, leads his fellow classmates to use this opportunity to regain their homeland.

Taken from Wikipedia. And, no, I have no idea how re-enacting history is supposed to solve anything, but in the context of this fictional universe, the inhabitants believe it, so I'll just accept that it's a fundamental law of how their world works. :heh: Also, there's an interview somewhere where they say the story doesn't really start until episode 4. So enjoy the fanservice for now I guess.

Thaaaanks ! It's more cleraly now !

I think they're doing a fine job, they're telling you the information straightforward. The explanations aren't incomplete, they just tell the details as they fit in the context of the conversation they're having. As for the terminologies, they explained them in the class explanation as well (if you're talking about the references to the Divine and Harmonic states). Rather than the anime not doing a good job of explaining, I just think people zone-out in the middle of the infodumps and cease attempting to pay attention to what's being said.

Again, we have a real life too and some of us don't have the time to watch the same episode again and again. And if some people don't undertand what's going on, it's mean it's not as good as you think.


So from what I udenrtand, it's the sudent who have the power in this world because they can re-enact the Testament ? So it makes Torri Aoi really powerful no ?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Taken from Wikipedia. And, no, I have no idea how re-enacting history is supposed to solve anything, but in the context of this fictional universe, the inhabitants believe it, so I'll just accept that it's a fundamental law of how their world works. :heh: Also, there's an interview somewhere where they say the story doesn't really start until episode 4. So enjoy the fanservice for now I guess.

The re-enactment is like retracing their footsteps to try to figure out how they achieve space travel again.

And to mirror what Kusa said, that's a good summary :)

This isn't really correct. As far as we know, Musashi is the only ship that doubles as a city. All the other countries have their own respective lands in the Far East.

Mah~ mah~ Don't sweat on the details :cool:

[Suzuku]

Again, we have a real life too and some of us don't have the time to watch the same episode again and again. And if some people don't undertand what's going on, it's mean it's not as good as you think.
It doesn't take hours of processing. Everything that creb pasted off of wikipedia was explained in this episode in more or less the same fassion, except it wasn't a single text wall. The history lesson in this episode also provided more specific details and the exact terminology. Maybe I just take in information well, but it doesn't seem too difficult to me to simply read what's being said.

So from what I udenrtand, it's the sudent who have the power in this world because they can re-enact the Testament ? So it makes Torri Aoi really powerful no ?
No, Toori is not powerful. He was chosen to be president and chancellor because he is viewed as a buffoon who is incompetent and easily manipulated. As explained in episode 1.

[Allen]

Also I saw the info dump (his research and planning for this series) image from Kawakami (dude needs to learn how to use a computer for research).

http://i.imgur.com/NMInb.jpg
In fact, this is just "half" of the setting about Horizon. The other "half" is in his computer :heh:

There are some people saying that they still don't understand about the setting but as a LN reader I can say that you don't have to worry about this. There are some details that I'm only understanding now (some of them were really important btw) and even without that I could get the most important and have (a lot of) fun.

[Kusa-San]

Please tell me that Aoi Toori is good at something ? :heh:

[Kunagisa]

Please tell me that Aoi Toori is good at something ? :heh:

Tag-teaming with his sister at taking advantage of people.

His fart He looks pretty badass in the OP, so maybe that counts for something (as usual head to light novel for future spoilers).

[serpiente]

It seems to be a power in law in this world, the Testament Union, who purposely picked up Toori as the Student Council President for his lack of power and general clumsyness. They have the autoriy to do so, and it seems to be convenient for them (Testament Union) to have a looser in charge of the students at Musashi, for political reasons. That was explained at the beginning of training session in episode 01 by Oriotorai sensei, but I wont blame anyone who was more interested in her rear than in her explanations

[Xellos-_^]

Please tell me that Aoi Toori is good at something ? :heh:

my guess

Aoi Toori is a hidden depth character type. They look lazy, laid back and absolutely useless but they are actually the smartest and most powerful character in the room.

And if you doubt how smart he is. The other guys in the class only talks about boobs, Toori actually did it.

[creb]

my guess

Aoi Toori is a hidden depth character type. They look lazy, laid back and absolutely useless but they are actually the smartest and most powerful character in the room.

And if you doubt how smart he is. The other guys in the class only talks about boobs, Toori actually did it.

Don't forget that he's had his body thrown through buildings and embedded into walls from force of impact without so much as a bruise or misplaced glittery line on his outfit breaking. Aoi is obviously hiding some haxxor skills. :heh:

[articuzwolf]

because lot of ppl already watched eps 2, I think now is the appropriate time to bring this topic up

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac145/articuzwolf/bestMC.jpg

ok so here is our naked MC :heh:

I realized that there is a scar (big one) in Toori's left shoulder (kinda reminds me of Edward Elric's Scar in the near end of FMA: B)


I pay attention to the dialogue but english is not my native language and I don't have much time with me for anime. I have a real life too.

we are not supposed to talk about sub so I'm not supposed to say that you better wait for better sub

[MeisterBabylon]

What I Watched: Horizon

What I Expected: Scifi punk period series + boobs

What I Found: Digimon, Ninjastorm, mecha, Scifi punk period series + BOOBS, and Nanoha StrikerS with IMPROVED PACING.

Except now I hear it only starts after episode 4... Oh well, better than after episode 6, then relapsing into mundanity. :uhoh:

[Azuma Denton]

Eps 2...
And i still confused with the charaters and the setting...
Cant remember when the last time i've been introduced in this many characters and faction in anime...

Hopefully it can be clearer with the ongoing episodes...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Please tell me that Aoi Toori is good at something ? :heh:

Well, he's a very hands-on kinda guy I suppose.


Except now I hear it only starts after episode 4... Oh well, better than after episode 6, then relapsing into mundanity. :uhoh:

Is that what you were basing off when you said improved StrikerS pacing :heh:

[Kaioshin Sama]

my guess

Aoi Toori is a hidden depth character type. They look lazy, laid back and absolutely useless but they are actually the smartest and most powerful character in the room.

And if you doubt how smart he is. The other guys in the class only talks about boobs, Toori actually did it.

So like Captain Goto from Mobile Police Patlabor a bit?

It occurs to me that nobody is likely to know who I'm talking about there, but whatever

[Xellos-_^]

So like Captain Goto from Mobile Police Patlabor a bit?

It occurs to me that nobody is likely to know who I'm talking about there, but whatever
Goto's superiors knows about his ability but they just don't like him.

Detective Matsui explain that to a younger colleague during one of the oav.

[creb]

So like Captain Goto from Mobile Police Patlabor a bit?

It occurs to me that nobody is likely to know who I'm talking about there, but whatever

Some of us are older farts than you. 27. Pfffffftb. :heh:

And, I doubt Aoi is another Goto. I see it like this. Aoi has extreme self-confidence and immense charisma. Which are great traits to have when leading. Even if he is dumb as a doorknob and athletically ungifted, when he finally puts those eroges away and gets serious about taking back their homeland, those two character traits of his will be incredibly useful in getting all those students to believe in him and give their 110 percent! :p

[killer3000ad]

So like Captain Goto from Mobile Police Patlabor a bit?

It occurs to me that nobody is likely to know who I'm talking about there, but whatever

Razor Sharp Goto wasn't a breast groper.

[MeisterBabylon]

Is that what you were basing off when you said improved StrikerS pacing :heh:

Not really, I've watched the first 15 min while in hospital and its really rushed in terms of getting the details out. But then I read that the story only starts at 4... This better not be another SEEDestiny.

[Xellos-_^]

Razor Sharp Goto wasn't a breast groper.
only because Nagumo and Kanuka would have killed him if he try

as for Noa and Takeo. there is nothing to grope.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Well color me pleasantly surprised to find out that there are other Patlabor fans on the forum. :D And I knew I sensed a burning spirit just below the surface of Aoi's goofy exterior. This is pretty helpful stuff to confirm about his character going forward. Kind of can't wait till the plot kicks in now.

[creb]

only because Nagumo and Kanuka would have killed him if he try

as for Noa and Takeo. there is nothing to grope.

Considering the era it was made/set in, I can totally see him doing so, with Nagumo and Kanuka blushing demurely. :heh: Those were simpler days. :p

[Exthiel]

because lot of ppl already watched eps 2, I think now is the appropriate time to bring this topic up

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac145/articuzwolf/bestMC.jpg

ok so here is our naked MC :heh:

I realized that there is a scar (big one) in Toori's left shoulder (kinda reminds me of Edward Elric's Scar in the near end of FMA: B)

I'm more surprised that the teacher didn't stopped him from removing his boxers and only reacted when the king opened the door

[Xellos-_^]

Considering the era it was made/set in, I can totally see him doing so, with Nagumo and Kanuka blushing demurely. :heh: Those were simpler days. :p

Kanuka is a sgt in the New York Police force, counter terrorism. No such thing as NY Cop.

[Green²]

I'm more surprised that the teacher didn't stopped him from removing his boxers and only reacted when the king opened the door
A few frames back and you can see that the teacher is enjoying it. It's just that they can't let the king know that the competition be packing 30% more beef.

[serpiente]

Isnt this Tadatsugu-sensei guy a much more Goto-ish type of character than Toori?

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4927/tadatsugu.jpg


So, Masazumi got a lot of exposition in this episode, a lot more than Toori, but we are here forgeting about her... Over some naked guy?????

...Trying to remember the episode, she seems the serious type, concerned about her future as a politician, while Tooris only concern is tomorrow´s party! She also goes into some mumbo-jumbo about family names that i couldnt read very well (damn fast sbs), but I do recall that, as a consequence, she got flat chested. Maybe if she had greater boobs we could be more concerned about her.

[MeisterBabylon]

Just finished episode 1. Now I feel that this was what Strikers should have been. Horizon even has Chrono!

[Chaos2Frozen]

So, Masazumi got a lot of exposition in this episode, a lot more than Toori, but we are here forgeting about her... Over some naked guy?????


Well yes, but I'm more attracted to Neito by the end of the episode... Just saying... >.>

(Then again, I had my eye on her since the first episode so maybe it had nothing to do with-)

Just finished episode 1. Now I feel that this was what Strikers should have been. Horizon even has Chrono!

You mean Tomokazu Sugita? Incidentally the character he voiced is also married...

[MeisterBabylon]

Exactly.

Now if only I was born a little later, I'd have thought of publishing my ideas as a light novel, given the quality of novels getting published these days... I stopped myself because of my tendency to infodump, then there's Toaru and Horizon and many others who've made it to anime. Even IS went and blew the charts off even though it was universally panned. :heh:

[Green²]

...
So, Masazumi got a lot of exposition in this episode, a lot more than Toori, but we are here forgeting about her... Over some naked guy?????

...Trying to remember the episode, she seems the serious type, concerned about her future as a politician, while Tooris only concern is tomorrow´s party! She also goes into some mumbo-jumbo about family names that i couldnt read very well (damn fast sbs), but I do recall that, as a consequence, she got flat chested. Maybe if she had greater boobs we could be more concerned about her.
This is true considering what had happened to Mitotsudaira. Her fondling scene was only half censored. By the time should if they get to fondling Masazumi, there may be no censoring present at all.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9674/shot0001cd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/shot0001cd.jpg/)

[FlareKnight]

Wow just watched the first two episodes and I can say....wow. Talk about a ton of characters to remember. Will definitely make use of the charts and naming lists on the earlier pages.

Well somewhat have an idea about what's going on. Lot of stuff to process and get a handle on.

Only one thing I can say for certain, the main lead is odd, but durable :heh:.
Eps 2...
And i still confused with the charaters and the setting...
Cant remember when the last time i've been introduced in this many characters and faction in anime...

Hopefully it can be clearer with the ongoing episodes...Certainly has been a while since so many characters have just been thrown at the viewers. Crazy chase in episode 1 and then suddenly diving into a tragic back-story, along with everything else going on in episode 2.

[MeisterBabylon]

I'd much rather be trying to do too much within the ist 2 episodes than spend 6 episodes just training. :heh:

[Jeffry2009]

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because lot of ppl already watched eps 2, I think now is the appropriate time to bring this topic up

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac145/articuzwolf/bestMC.jpg

ok so here is our naked MC :heh:

I don't get it. Why is he stripped off his clothes in front of the class!? :eyebrow:

You wanna see my 'junk' (Slang word for penis?)? Check this out!

And that man's reaction was priceless...

[Chaos2Frozen]

I don't get it. Why is he stripped off his clothes in front of the class!? :eyebrow:


It's a punishment.

[articuzwolf]

I don't get it. Why is he stripped off his clothes in front of the class!? :eyebrow:

He is a pervert, and the teacher punish him to do so

from what I can see, it's a win win solution for him :heh:

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wait that's not the point what about dat huge scar :frustrated:

[TheEroKing]

Episode 2

I'm watching this for http://i.imgur.com/1pdJW.jpg

[serpiente]

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I don't get it. Why is he stripped off his clothes in front of the class!? :eyebrow:

You wanna see my 'junk' (Slang word for penis?)? Check this out!

And that man's reaction was priceless...

man, you rule! that Oriotorarse sensei pictures has just made my day

[Jeffry2009]

It's a punishment.

He is a pervert, and the teacher punish him to do so

from what I can see, it's a win win solution for him :heh:

Hmmm.. we couldn't do that though in real life even when our teacher said so till everyone gets shocked even the girls...

[MeisterBabylon]

ONEGAI SENSEI! Please let me fondle your breasts! :D

You guys can have at the kids. Makiko left a deeper impression on me than anyone so far. :nod:

[felix]

This is true considering what had happened to Mitotsudaira. Her fondling scene was only half censored. By the time should if they get to fondling Masazumi, there may be no censoring present at all.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9674/shot0001cd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/shot0001cd.jpg/)I don't even understand why that was censored at all. She was fully covered, and there was nothing there anyway. :heh:

[TheEroKing]

Speaking of Makiko...

http://i.imgur.com/rKLDCl.jpg

[Syed_Seinaru_Migi]

ermm see episode 2 while ago...it seem the girls on Toori class didn't seem care what there see infront of them there even enjoy it especially there sensei this world really change....lol

[-Sho-]

Can't say if it's bad or not bad really.

Well , the story with Mazasumi was kinda sick.
It's painful to see a male lead like Aoi.

Fortunately , things will move next episode.

Btw , i like the Ninja's cap ^^

[Kaioshin Sama]

Much more involving episode the second time around. I'm starting to settle into the groove of this universe a bit, but am still confused as to what exactly the difference between the Divine States and the Harmonic Divine States is. I'm also really continuing to like the setting and the little details put into it as well as the shots of the ships docking and passing each other by. Somehow this setting continues to remind me a bit of Gintama, although with an arguably weaker sense of humour which I'll talk about in a moment.

It seems like only Aoi and his posse are completely batshit insane while the rest of the cast seems vaguely normal and like they've each got a story to tell. Already it looks like the main cast members are going to be Aoi, P-01S and Masazumi Honda who we all get a further glimpse of. Aoi still kind of seems like a goof off while P-01S is our mysterious key character type and Masazumi as a sort of foil to Aoi. Masazumi's back story is pretty messed up and kind of explains how she got to Musashi from Mikawa and why she seems to hate political maneuvering so much despite being good at it. Having to return seems like it's going to bring out some repressed emotions pretty shortly if she runs into her father. She doesn't seem to be too fond of the lord either with him having dismissed all his vassals and ruining her life, but what's the deal with the robot maids they replaced them with? Dare I ask since I know the answer is probably that this came from a light novel. :heh:

As for P-01S, what's the deal with the song she sings and what's going to be the deal with Remorse Way? Some things to look forward to for the next episode along with whatever the lord of Mikawa is planning with his "fireworks".

What I don't really look forward to seeing anymore though are the scenes with Aoi being a pervert. The guys kind of just like a loveable idiot most of the time, but his boob grabbing scene went on way too bloody long this episode and it adds nothing to the story as far as I'm concerned. Not really a fan of the drawn out fan service so I hope it gives way to more of the stuff like we saw in Masazumi's scene or at the very least gets cut down to like a minute of the episode length at most.

In any case I sort of see what people are saying about the light novels not really being light novels. Despite spending an uncomfortable amount of time on boob grabbing, by comparison to your average light novel adaptation I've seen this is a pretty dense plot line and the story hasn't even really kicked in yet. I kind of tend to love shows like this that hint at turning into epic sagas so hopefully this continues to go where I think it's going.

Can't say if it's bad or not bad really.

Well , the story with Mazasumi was kinda sick.
It's painful to see a male lead like Aoi.

Fortunately , things will move next episode.

Btw , i like the Ninja's cap ^^

What's with the double negative? Shouldn't the opposite of bad just be good? :confused:

[ninja_pintu]

I think I missed it in this episode, but what was the result of the war between divine states and harmonic divine states?

[Aoi Toori]

I think I missed it in this episode, but what was the result of the war between divine states and harmonic divine states?

do read it here (credit to Suzuku for the link) (http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/) or I'll copy-paster narrator's summary on ep 1 from horizon.wikia (credit to Marcus H.) (http://genesis-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_01:_Those_Lined_Up_Before_the_Horizon) for you :

n a distant future, the world began to rewrite its history.
Humans once rose to the heavens like gods.
But they could not bring themselves to stop warring, and lost the power they had.
Thus, they were forced to return to the earth.
But the planet's environment had grown hostile. The Divine States were the only hospitable places left.
In order to regain their former prosperity, they wrote a history book called the Testament.
They separated the Divine States in the real world from its copy, the Harmonic Divine States.
They then proceeded to relive human history.
But the Divine States made a mistake while repeating history in the Middle Ages.
This resulted in the fall of the Harmonic Divine States, inviting other countries to divide and conquer the Far East Divine States.
The kings joined forces with the feudal warlords of the lands.
Currently, the Far East's warriors dispatched around the world are reliving the Warring States Period and the Thirty Years' War Era as they battle for world domination.

[ninja_pintu]

Ah! Thanks, that cleared it up :D

[com_gwp]

Well thanks for some people who tried to clear up the plot, even thought there are still question marks going off over my head.

And this is coming from a guy who could sit through series like noein and zegapain:heh: