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We will have Ohana X Tooru I think !!
I can't find a link but there was a comment from the staff that something big happens in episode 10. The statement gave rise to rumors about characters getting pregnant LOL.
Pellissier
2011-05-03, 00:27
I can't find a link but there was a comment from the staff that something big happens in episode 10.
To be completely honest, before the series started they also announced something big was going to happen in episode 3...
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-03, 01:01
I can't find a link but there was a comment from the staff that something big happens in episode 10. The statement gave rise to rumors about characters getting pregnant LOL.
"~California here we come. Right back where we started from~"...
*hides*
In all seriousness... if I had to guess, it would be Ohana's grandmother passing away.
germanturkey
2011-05-03, 01:13
lovely thing about this show is that there is no source, so everything is speculation. i'll reiterate my theory that someone will get pregnant in the show. after all, one of the first things said in the show was Ohana's belief about the stork theory rather than the cabbage patch theory. and there's always that stork (which is technically a heron, but w/e) flying around.
also, something big did happen in ep 3. EPIC CAR CHASE.
Deconstructor
2011-05-03, 01:41
In all seriousness... if I had to guess, it would be Ohana's grandmother passing away.
Heh, only one speculation? I love tossing stuff at the wall and watching stuff fall off...
-As Ohana's grandmother foreshadows, the inn goes bankrupt; Fukuya buys out Kissuiso, and everyone works for Yuina now. Her first celebratory action is to get a larger massage chair.
-Ohana is promoted to the position of manager. Then, she picks up a copy of Peter Drucker's Management, and uses business theory in order to make Kissuiso the most popular inn in Japan... wrong anime.
-Ko visits the inn. Yeah! If a car chase in episode 3 is "big" then Ko visiting Ohana is groundbreaking. Bonus points if they lock lips. Mega bonus if they sleep in the same room... SUPER bonus if Ko decides to work at the inn together with Ohana. Long distance relationship, officially over.
-The bonbouri festival happens; Nako leaves (emotionally :upset:) to pursue her dream as a world-class swimmer. AKA: The fans complained too much, enjoy your free bus ride off our show.
-Minko thinks of a better insult for Ohana. That would be huge.
-Jiroumaru wins the Akugatawa prize for his greatest perverted work "Ohana, Minko and Nako: Let's Sparkle Together at the Inn!" which sells over a million copies. His later memoir "How I Nearly Jumped Off A Cliff Because I'm Not Really an Author" releases to far less acclaim.
Hmm, well, I'm going to speculate the big event of episode 10 will be Ohana's mother coming to the inn. She needs to come back into the story at some point. She has issues to straighten out with her mother, and her daughter as well. Ohana has never complained about it, but I bet that deep down, she resents her mother a bit for basically abandoning her and running away with some dude.
MeoTwister5
2011-05-03, 09:21
Personally if there's anything big happening in Ep10, it's either going to be Ohana's mom or Ko coming to see her at Kissuiso.
Pellissier
2011-05-03, 09:37
Remember a recurring rule of 2 cours anime, which is putting one of the strongest arcs/plot evolutions/revelations in the middle, at the end of the first cour (approx. ep.11-12-13) or right at the beginning of the second cour (approx. ep.14-15-16). If this event is placed in episode 10, then it looks like a set up element for a main arc in the following episodes.
So it would be something with enough relevance to carry a 3-4 episodes arc. In this regard, Kou or Ohana's mother would both seem valid theories. Personally I'd be more inclined towards the Kou theory, as I believe things with Satsuki will be dealt later.
james0246
2011-05-03, 09:54
The anime is fairly straightforward, so Kou's arrival is more or less pre-destined and will only be held off as so long as the staff can stretch the anticipation (which depends greatly on how interested they are in showcasing stories concerning the other workers/members of the inn, stories about the village/school, etc), but 5 more episodes until Kou seems reasonable (especially if writers keep dropping little hints as to his arrival).
That being said, I do want a Festival arc, and that seems like a perfect time for a variety of different storylines (Minko confessing to Tohru; Kou arriving; the Grey Heron leading a full assault on the Town; etc) to converge into one gigantic melodrama.
Archon_Wing
2011-05-04, 17:47
lol pregnancy. Actually that would be a fairly decent topic that is often avoided in anime, since in anime, children come from nowhere. My god, things have consequences?
However, such a topic would take masterful script writing to work. A show of Ano Hana's caliber could handle that. I'm not too sure I'd like it in this show though.
^^ Mate you know AnoHana, and Hanasaku Iroha have the same writer :heh:
As for pregnancy in anime, it was a side-plot in Onegai Sensei, but yeah it is indeed rare outside hentai and shoujo manga.
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-04, 19:49
Lol pregnancy indeed, but I highly doubt teenage pregnancy will be an topic in this anime, or in any popular anime in general. Unless this anime wants to bomb badly, it would make any commercial sense not to explore that or else... you're going to get some otakus to overreact due to their obsession of "purity" and "innocence". See what happened to Kannagi and K-on's Ritsu for example just because it was hinted they had boyfriends in the past... let alone teenage pregnancy.
Not that I would mind it. It would be refreshing to see some slice of life anime not "idealise" its characters.
Btw, Archon Wing why you still watching this? I thought you hated teen dramas :p :D
Archon_Wing
2011-05-04, 22:06
^^ Mate you know AnoHana, and Hanasaku Iroha have the same writer :heh:
As for pregnancy in anime, it was a side-plot in Onegai Sensei, but yeah it is indeed rare outside hentai and shoujo manga.
Yep, which is why it's entirely possible it can be pulled off. But even the same person can vary in quality from work to work.
Lol pregnancy indeed, but I highly doubt teenage pregnancy will be an topic in this anime, or in any popular anime in general. Unless this anime wants to bomb badly, it would make any commercial sense not to explore that or else... you're going to get some otakus to overreact due to their obsession of "purity" and "innocence". See what happened to Kannagi and K-on's Ritsu for example just because it was hinted they had boyfriends in the past... let alone teenage pregnancy.
Not that I would mind it. It would be refreshing to see some slice of life anime not "idealise" its characters.
Sigh... god forbid one use their brain. Sucks for the rest of us.
Btw, Archon Wing why you still watching this? I thought you hated teen dramas :p :D
Because I can. And anime does it better.
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-04, 22:38
Because I can. And anime does it better.
I wouldn't say better... but is more tolerable. That's because even if the series sucks, I still have eye-candy to look at. Compare this with TV dramas, where if the series suck, I could careless about the actors or some teen boy/girl band doing the soundtrack :p
Thankfully, Hanasaku Iroha falls within at least the "good" category + it is the best animated anime this season. And no, I don't consider crayon-art Nichijou to be well animated. Sorry Nichijou fans :D
Archon_Wing
2011-05-04, 22:39
I do guess I am biased towards anime, maybe because of the visuals. ^^ I actually am an even worse hater about live action tv, just so tired of it. :heh:
And yes this anime is gorgeous. I can watch it just for that.
revive4563
2011-05-05, 00:31
We will have Ohana X Tooru I think !!
Undoubtedly.
But of course I have no intention to spoil anime by reading manga, though I even don't know whether anime version is preceded by manga or not. (definition of spoiler here means manga's information, right?)
How about we merge our ideas? In episode 10, Satsuki (Ohana's mom) and Ko will both visit the inn to announce to everyone Sachiko is pregnant with Ko's child and that they're planning to marry soon.
Pellissier
2011-05-05, 05:05
^ Is "Sachiko" a result of the merging? Because the name of Ohana's mother would be Satsuki. But then again, most of the girls have their share of "chi" in their nickname (Minchi, Nakochi, Ohana who was leaning towards Hanachi) so it wouldn't even be so wrong. :heh:
^No, that's my mistake :heh:
But yeah, let's just blame it on the fact there's so much "chi" in this anime :p
Shadow5YA
2011-05-08, 14:00
So with Tohru's apparent interest in Ohana, does that make Ohana part of two love triangles now? There's now Ohana/Tohru/Ko and Ohana/Minko/Tohru.
Roger Rambo
2011-05-08, 15:49
So with Tohru's apparent interest in Ohana, does that make Ohana part of two love triangles now? There's now Ohana/Tohru/Ko and Ohana/Minko/Tohru.Isn't that strictly speaking, a quadrangle?
Tsuyoshi
2011-05-09, 03:06
I really don't want anyone to get pregnant by ep 10. At least not yet, and if someone does get there, I really would prefer it not be one of the teen three (Nako, Minko and Ohana) because as someone said already, a show involving teen pregnancy does not bode well for any anime (see: School Days). Besides, I really don't see this anime focusing a great deal on romance, but about Ohana's story of growing up, coming to terms with her past (maybe), opening up to other people (certainly not in the romantic sense) and becoming more responsible for herself in the process. I see romance in this story as an added bonus, and that's where Ko comes in.
VentAileron
2011-05-09, 03:19
...a show involving teen pregnancy does not bode well for any anime (see: School Days). Besides, I really don't see this anime focusing a great deal on romance, but about Ohana's story of growing up, coming to terms with her past (maybe), opening up to other people (certainly not in the romantic sense) and becoming more responsible for herself in the process. I see romance in this story as an added bonus, and that's where Ko comes in.
Agreed. I don't expect the writer to go as far as using pregnancy anyway. I doubt they would dare to give the show that kind of 180. I also doubt they have any way of ending something like that in a satisfying way (I always laugh at Clannad).
But then again, the main plot device now seems to be romance. Ohana growing up is just a passive theme that doesn't trigger any events or plots. Those events and plots contribute to the theme instead.
Tsuyoshi
2011-05-09, 03:29
But then again, the main plot device now seems to be romance. Ohana growing up is just a passive theme that doesn't trigger any events or plots. Those events and plots contribute to the theme instead.
Right now, that seems to be the case, but only because I think in the long run, it'll give Ohana a reason to make up her mind about what she wants to do, so it contributes to the overall growth of her character. Granted, the outcome will be obvious in that she'll choose Ko over anyone else, but what is interesting is how she will come to that conclusion. That being said, I don't believe the anime will stop there because as I said, its focus isn't romance, altho it is indeed part of it (considering it's classified as a romance comedy).
VentAileron
2011-05-09, 03:47
Right now, that seems to be the case, but only because I think in the long run, it'll give Ohana a reason to make up her mind about what she wants to do, so it contributes to the overall growth of her character. Granted, the outcome will be obvious in that she'll choose Ko over anyone else, but what is interesting is how she will come to that conclusion. That being said, I don't believe the anime will stop there because as I said, its focus isn't romance, altho it is indeed part of it (considering it's classified as a romance comedy).
That kind of depends on what kind of ending the producers have in mind. Sure I agree that sooner or later, Ohana will start making her own choices based on the whole 'growing up' theme instead of being dragged into situations in and around the inn. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. If she decides to go back to Ko out of her own free will at the end of the series...well that's only one choice she would ever make. :p Assuming that happens at the end of the series of course.
I kind of gave up trying to tell where the series is going in the long run though. In the short run, it's probably just isn't going anywhere far.
Roger Rambo
2011-05-09, 06:32
I kind of gave up trying to tell where the series is going in the long run though. In the short run, it's probably just isn't going anywhere far.Well they are still stuck working at the Inn. I'm not sure what kind of earth shattering events they could have happen.
Of course the preview DOES seem to implausibly show a bunch of paramilitary looking dudes vaulting over one of the inns walls.
ReddyRedWolf
2011-05-09, 11:30
I have a feeling Ohana will meet her father while working at the inn.
VentAileron
2011-05-09, 12:33
Well they are still stuck working at the Inn. I'm not sure what kind of earth shattering events they could have happen.
The point being that since the beginning of episode 2, the series is stuck resolving one small plot after another without giving the viewers a feeling of: "Oh, we're now at episode 6 and this, that and that has happened that will effect the plot later on."
typhonsentra
2011-05-09, 14:05
Right now I'm in the camp that thinks it's pretty likely that he was looking at Nako, although it could go either way.
The fact that they made a point of having Nako be with Ohana every time they had a reaction shot from him in this episode is unusual as they usually don't share the4 spotlight in that manner, coupled with the fact that we don't really have any scenes of him interacting with Nako up to this point, which also seems intentional in retrospect. The audience would be inclined to suspect he was looking at Ohana, which is why that pairing is probably just a red herring.
Dr. Casey
2011-05-11, 17:15
Random theory: there will be an episode later in the series where Mr. Beanman dies of old age. It will be the saddest episode in all of Hanasaku Iroha.
Random theory: there will be an episode later in the series where Mr. Beanman dies of erotic asphyxiation, which he was performing with Jiromaru. It will be the saddest episode in all of Hanasaku Iroha.
Fixed for accuracy.
Jokes aside, you must have stumbled onto something here. Maybe this will be the big event in episode 10. All that talk about pregnancy made me forget about the other most important part of life: death.
Pellissier
2011-05-16, 02:57
Quite a few interesting things in the preview for episode 8:
- Looks like Okami-san isn't feeling too well.
- "Ambulance!"
- Minko: "Sorry, I couldn't be of any use" (referred to Okami-san's condition?)
- Ohana to her mother: "Mama, about Grandma..." (I guess via telephone)
- Kou on a train (impossible to say whether it's a daily routine train or the train that leads to Ohana's town).
And the episode is called "Run". Indeed it seems quite packed of incoming happenings.
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-16, 03:08
You know, the preview for episode 8 further confirms my earlier speculation that the grandmother is going to die in episode 10.
risingstar3110
2011-05-16, 04:02
Quite a few interesting things in the preview for episode 8:
- Looks like Okami-san isn't feeling too well.
- "Ambulance!"
- Minko: "Sorry, I couldn't be of any use" (referred to Okami-san's condition?)
- Ohana to her mother: "Mama, about Grandma..." (I guess via telephone)
- Kou on a train (impossible to say whether it's a daily routine train or the train that leads to Ohana's town).
And the episode is called "Run". Indeed it seems quite packed of incoming happenings.
Based on the train design, i don't think it's a routine travel...
Okami-san's death if occur will be out from nowhere, and an effort trying too hard to make the series dramatic while it's not (wow i said the same thing with Angel Beats, history gonna repeat?)
They should stuck with the romantic+comedy formula
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-16, 04:21
Based on the train design, i don't think it's a routine travel...
Okami-san's death if occur will be out from nowhere, and an effort trying too hard to make the series dramatic while it's not (wow i said the same thing with Angel Beats, history gonna repeat?)
They should stuck with the romantic+comedy formula
Or stick with the drama in a lighthearted fashion format that was in the first two episodes. Take your pick.
Pellissier
2011-05-16, 04:36
But for how I see things, this is primarily a story about growth. And death is a part of growth just like love, work, school, friendships, rivalries, happiness, sadness are.
From this perspective, I wouldn't see it as out of context. I'd have a different kind of qualm, the fact that so far Grandma hasn't really played a great role in the story (if we except her grand debut in episode 1 she didn't do much after that, other than becoming fonder of Ohana and some little details about her past being shown). So perhaps, if that is going to happen, we'll have a set up that will warm up the audience towards her much more. In these kind of shows, they usually don't kill a character for the sake of it.
Here's an analogy from "Summer Wars" , the movie. Spoilerish though, so don't read if you didn't watch that movie and/or plan to.
In Summer Wars the grandmother dies in the second half of the movie, but she played a significant role up until that moment so her death not only was very impactful to her family, but also to the audience, because her character could be truly "felt", and so was her loss.
So far, the same can't be said about Okami-san in Hanasaku Iroha, imho.
risingstar3110
2011-05-16, 04:36
Or stick with the drama in a lighthearted fashion format that was in the first two episodes. Take your pick.
I will say...romantic+comedy...
I don't think the type of drama in 1st two episodes can be set up again with what we had up until this point. Unless the inn gone bankrupt and Ohana have to work in that huge hotel~ish inn
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-16, 04:38
I will say...romantic+comedy...
I don't think the type of drama in 1st two episodes can be set up again with what we had up until this point. Unless the inn gone bankrupt and Ohana have to work in that huge hotel~ish inn
Actually I would like that. Grandma dies, inn goes bankrupt and Ohana has to work her butt off. Drama yeh! :heh:
Tsuyoshi
2011-05-18, 08:01
Actually I would like that. Grandma dies, inn goes bankrupt and Ohana has to work her butt off. Drama yeh! :heh:
Fukuya Inn then?
BladeEntity
2011-05-18, 08:40
But for how I see things, this is primarily a story about growth. And death is a part of growth just like love, work, school, friendships, rivalries, happiness, sadness are.
From this perspective, I wouldn't see it as out of context. I'd have a different kind of qualm, the fact that so far Grandma hasn't really played a great role in the story (if we except her grand debut in episode 1 she didn't do much after that, other than becoming fonder of Ohana and some little details about her past being shown). So perhaps, if that is going to happen, we'll have a set up that will warm up the audience towards her much more. In these kind of shows, they usually don't kill a character for the sake of it.
Agree with you there, I think the start set it up for a dramatic story about growth. What I can say now is that it is the calm before the storm. In drama a huge number of things can be used to increase the dramatic effect, romance, death, farewell these sort of things are very likely at any point still.
Another recurring point that has been brought up is the inn's bad situation so that will likely play a role too.
.x.crii.x.
2011-05-22, 15:00
I don´t think Ohana´s grandma will be dying anytime soon. At least not in episode 10. As for Kissuiso going bankrupt...hmm, I guess that´s a possibility but again I think its too early.
I'll take a wild guess and say that either:
1. Ko confesses to Ohana again, but this time Ohana responds by turning him down. (Or accepting him...20% chance?)
2. Minko confesses to Tooru (hardly doubt it)
3. Ohana´s mom comes to Kissuiso (Maybe a 30% chance?)
4. Ohana is called back to the city by her mom (15% chance?)
Meh, Idk, my theories are just theories. Don't throw rocks at me Ko/Ohana fans! D:
So, the big event in episode 10 is Ohana... getting a cold? No, there has to be something more to this. At any rate, I think we can cross out anything involving Ko. He's had his dose in episode 9.
Pocari_Sweat
2011-05-29, 12:06
(edited after I realised I got the voice actors wrong from the preview):
My speculations on episode 10:
From the preview of episode 9, it looks like Ohana is being called to go back home and leave the inn. Preview suggest that Ko is desperate to have her back, but I smell something fishy. I think it might Ohana's mother or even her grandmother. The scenes with Ohana and Tooru suggests that Tooru may encourage to do so... or maybe even make an indirect confession on top of it - like asking her to go on a "date" once she gets over her cold but Ohana is too brickheaded to understand. Meanwhile, back in the city things steam up between Ko and that new girl.
I think I read/watched way too much shoujo manga and teen dramas :heh:
Sugarless Ocean
2011-05-29, 18:34
^I think it's waaay too early for Tohru to do something like that. I'm pretty sure he realizes that Ohana is a lot younger than him and would try not to... make moves on her? (Like Skip Beat) Oh wait, but he did in the preview... With possible ulterior motives... But Ohana's sick so he has a good excuse >.> lol
I'm betting we're going to see the first overt / explicit sign of Tooru's attraction to Ohana in episode 10. At this point, I don't think Ohana is attracted to Kou. She's still struggling to understand what it even means for her to be romantically interested.
Knowing Ohana, when Tooru finally confesses, she's either going to be:
1) Clueless
2) Apologetic (she may have noticed, but doesn't know what to do since Minko obviously has an attraction towards him. If she is entertaining the notion, she may be indecisive and not really understand the concept of romantic engagement.
There will probably be a backlash from Minko as well :/.
Someone mentioned pregnancy earlier in the thread. I think it's certainly a possibility- a lot of people have drawn parallels between Ohana and her mother. Is it that hard to believe that history may repeat itself?
I think the difference however, is that Ohana represents an opportunity for her grandmother to rebuild her relationship with her granddaughter and ultimately forgive her daughter for making whatever decision she made all the years ago that is reminded by whatever Ohana does this time around.
^I think it's waaay too early for Tohru to do something like that. I'm pretty sure he realizes that Ohana is a lot younger than him and would try not to... make moves on her? (Like Skip Beat) Oh wait, but he did in the preview... With possible ulterior motives... But Ohana's sick so he has a good excuse >.> lol
She's what, 16? Tooru is 23 so the gap is not THAT much. Keep in mind that they're pretty far in the country side.
And yeah, it's a questionable gap (at least in the states), but it's possible with parental consent, and since her grandmother is acting as guardian... Once again, I don't know the statutory laws in Japan, but I get the inkling that it's probably within acceptable bounds. Also, Tooru is clearly NOT being portrayed a pedophile.
BladeEntity
2011-05-30, 07:08
I've seen too many anime pairings as it is that honestly it would be better if the MC ends up with no one unless its painstakingly obvious who is going to come out on top. On that note I don't think Ohana will accept anyone's confession in the end.
And the series has to end with the thing with Ko-chan completely fleshed out at the least. As of yet still no expectation.
Tsuyoshi
2011-06-01, 02:57
Let me just reitarate that no one will end up getting pregnant here. The only one I can remotely see getting there is Tomoe, given her age, but I find even that unlikely considering episode 10 is just around the corner, hardly enough time for her to get into a relationship, and she certainly doesn't seem as irresponsible as Ohana's mom. And if it happens to any of the other girls, especially Ohana, rest assured this anime will end badly. I don't need to remind anyone about School Days again, I hope :heh:
No! just stay innocent and maintain the slice of life feel. i don't need pregnancy drama going on :upset: It will ruin the feel and the story. This story is about Ohana getting stronger mentally not getting bigger physically :mad:
.x.crii.x.
2011-06-01, 13:41
A big event in episode 10. Hmm, well, I think we can pretty much cross out Ko from this big event, since he went back to Tokyo.
Ummm, Ohana`s first kiss maybe? xD Idk, maybe...or umm, Ohana suddenly getting a call from her mom.
Sugarless Ocean
2011-06-02, 08:59
I really want to see Ohana's mom again (Satsuki right?) so that we can find out what's going on between her and Grandma. Lots of drama, perhaps?
What about Ohana's dad? :O I want to know more about him too, but he hasn't been mentioned at all.
Roger Rambo
2011-06-02, 10:04
A big event in episode 10. Hmm, well, I think we can pretty much cross out Ko from this big event, since he went back to Tokyo.
Ummm, Ohana`s first kiss maybe? xD Idk, maybe...or umm, Ohana suddenly getting a call from her mom.Satsuki coming to the inn to pick up Ohana? That WOULD be an element they'd barely hint at in the trailers.
Maybe we'll get a new staff member? It looks like there's room on the steps for another person and if they get more business because of the review...
Or maybe Ohana and Tooru find out they're in love triangles! :heh:
Hey, we're getting closer to Sunday but we can still speculate! Does anyone want to guess why Minko has such a big smile on her face in the preview? Judging from the background, she's standing on the bed (like Nako was at the beginning of the clip) and talking to Ohana. We've never seen her with a smile that big before. :D
Roger Rambo
2011-06-04, 00:22
That sounds about right.
And subforum DOES seem to quite up a bit in thew 2-3 days prior to a new episode airing. Anticipation for new content? Or do we just run out of things to say by then?
.x.crii.x.
2011-06-04, 10:12
^ I think we just run out of new things to say.
As for Minko, Ohana probably tells her something along the lines of: "I'm sorry for getting sick and for causing all of you trouble today."
And Minko starts to think that Ohana might not be so bad after all.
Roger Rambo
2011-06-04, 12:19
^ I think we just run out of new things to say.
Figured as much :heh:
Though we should have more to talk about by tomorrow.
Does anyone want to guess why Minko has such a big smile on her face in the preview?
Perhaps Ohana really is dying this time.
Judging from the preview (It looks like a flashback episode to Ohana's time in Tokyo with her mom for those who haven't seen the ep yet), her mom might be showing up sooner that we thought...
I would have thought that they'd save something with that much potential drama until the end. Or maybe I'm wrong about the potential for drama. Ohana might have been disappointed by her mother so many times that a potential confrontation wouldn't actually have that much dramatic oomph.
Anyone willing to translate?
http://anime.webnt.jp/programs/view/79
puffkins
2011-06-23, 00:40
Can someone translate this? I want to know the last one.
http://www44.atwiki.jp/hanasakuiroha/pages/33.html
Thank you!!!:smile:
I'm guessing the primary antagonist of the second half will be Yunosagi Silas. Yuina and Youske will become antagonists. It will be a race against time before October comes and they will have to "fest it up".
frezinator
2011-07-01, 17:03
Can someone translate this? I want to know the last one.
http://www44.atwiki.jp/hanasakuiroha/pages/33.html
Thank you!!!:smile:
P. A. Anniversary animation WORKS 10
Flit of a sudden confession of a sudden, abrupt farewell and -.
If your ever wanted to be a different dream, suddenly became a reality.
My everyday ordinary flowers together Matsumae is greeted by a dramatic expansion in one day.
Attending a familiar, and yet left the city without much affection, I live under the grandmother never talked or met.
Taisho Roman 翆荘 full of joy Onsen (likely to kiss).
Meet people there.
To know a new world of flower buds out on the ground, I also completely different and far, to begin a new life.
It may be painful.
But even Mege, even discouraged, but tomorrow I will come 泣Kijakutsu.
That's why I work hard I, and I 輝Kitai.
So that eventually a large flower bloom like flowers ... so that led to the sun.
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Episode 1
Suddenly, my mother, Satsuki (Satsuki) from
"It was a night flight" was reportedly Masaki together flowers (flowers before waiting.)
The mother handed the "翆荘 Xi" (likely to kiss), and named,
Only a scrap of paper was written and telephone number.
Dear old town, the mother of a classmate Kouichi and Tanemura (Koichi Village seeds) goodbye,
Flowers had to live together in the city have never met my grandmother yet,
With views of the coastline from the running train, a new life starting now.
Think of was the.
Netabare
Flower together, Koichi 民子 be confessed, "Die" Slap eat together from three flowers on a futon in the Sui say dropping of flowers and two together
Episode 3
"Joy 翆荘" sell novelist with a long sojourn, Taro Jiromaru (Marutarou Jiro).
Flowers and together they had trash thrown away the confusion of his unfinished manuscript,
The next morning, they disappeared in the middle of the wrap dressing.
"In the had returned to Tokyo?" We worry about employees.
Sui, however, ordered the cleaning of such inns them askance.
Caizi Jiromaru was headed for cleaning the room,
The Jiromaru, cleaning stubborn, but he denied that they have entered the room and ....
Netabare
Flower cord is tied to the turtle Jiromaru be read a novel functional. Jiromaru, helped jump off a cliff to the oldest. Jiromaru, Koichi get an email from enough to have the Standard toolbar and not long ago filtered Hobiron-books to employees
Episode 5
"Joy 翆荘" T. Miyagishi 民子 also a chef to teach a senior (and Toru Miyagi).
Flowers and 民子 cord is placed on a motorcycle speed away to witness the result of wearing shorts to his name.
Futari was surprised the next day, two long Togashi lotus plate (and starvation range) from the T.
民子 was told that it will come, even shocked.
Caizi Jiromaru know the circumstances and, Bayan Wajima head waitress (or wadi Tomoe) can also make inferences from participating,
The information is Jiromaru purchases, leading to the conclusion that due to withdrawal of T. Fukuya Ryokan ....
Netabare
Toru is a name you been to assist in binding together Fukuya flowers flowers begin to allow the air to the 民子 not going out together, assault on Fukuya
Episode 7
Bala encouraged to matchmaking by telephone from the mother.
Photos of the party is said to have already sent, and be forced to come back home.
決Menai also argue that in contrast to the hand,
The unmarried friends in high school and that only the Bayan,
Catch the customer's wealthy in 翆荘 Xi
Is pointed out at a loss for words that fail to marry money.
Continue the current job, or marriage or.
Bala's life to worry about the future.
Such in front of her, a line appears in a somewhat special clientele.
Netabare
☆ let's try real hard to be revered in a while to accept guests younger → → → Reception unconventional decision to get married and retired people in different times = patrons Bayan Sabage Wajima Mania
9 story
Guests suddenly increased. Sui was taken to hospital suddenly collapsed. Toru or absence of West Lake.
Suspected stay undercover reporter and ....
In the absence of Okami, we become panic-stricken face of 翆荘 Happiness is
Hospitality priority to the customers trying to think that the undercover reporter's suggestion Takako.
But so far as flowers together, and they should oppose the hospitality of equality to all guests.
Bring back pop out to say that even T. attend a friend's wedding.
Hurry found together in the form of flowers Toru, Koichi enters suddenly coming from.
Netabare
Flower together, and two-seater bike T.
K., Lu Yu-filled, floral flip and not meet together at
Guests of the wind-old woman and her granddaughter undercover reporter
Okami, safe return
Episode 11
Date of travel magazine featured rode 乃鷺 hot spring town.
Flower together, but was expecting a high rating in the ranking of 翆荘 tree inn, in reality, five points out of 10.
I received the results of the ranking also had reservations canceled one after another.
Flowers can not convince together the results of the ranking,
"You can fight with the criminal to mess with the assessment 翆荘 trees" and leave every document had to hop on the train.
Negotiations (?) Seed of that get to show he was responsible for the article writer business card publishers ... somehow.
Netabare
Articles undervalued yuan is to sit runaway mack flower girl appeared together with pressure from the resort to Koichi newly Masaki Satsuki
Episode 13
Flowers came back together a ride to his mother.
Satsuki is 着Kunari, refreshment and your yukata designs for bath time, many point out.
The earliest such thought her lovely and edges have been teased by his sister from a young age will wince intimidating aura,
Jiromaru was trounced by the white nape of Satsuki coquettishly.
On the other hand, switches and flowers together, but he had taken away ... and Satsuki.
Sui through work, Satsuki, their feelings of flowers mixed up together.
Added a new page in the story of four hundred thousand women.
Netabare
15 story
Flower power cord somehow we want to be listening to the secret name of Yosuke results from the 民子, considering that the oldest. On the other hand
Yellow-green layer, let the sparks flickering around the inn's management policies and the Sui Takako, but the edge falls between Satsuki to talk to again.
Netabare
Episode 2
"To attend school while working as an employee," said Sui is a grandmother of four hundred thousand (easy-Shijima) is said strictly from
Ryokan run by Sui "翆荘 Xi", and embarked upon a new life together flowers.
It is envisioned life was far from the world.
She, however, live in as an apprentice chef 民子 Tsurugi (Tsurugi people can), and
Caizi 押水 the same waitress (Shimizu Nanako us), including the solitary struggle with their employees in the 打Chi解Keyou 翆荘 trees.
The hard work out of it would backfire, however.
Netabare
Flower together, lost the manuscript of a novelist (protect your Earliest) talk past the flower together (omelet with Satsuki and parents' day), tangles and first Miyagishi (worst impression) novelist flowers together to write the novel sensory 民子, did open up the oldest grab?
Episode 4
民子 flowers together to attend the same school was the oldest.
The students came from Tokyo that the woman in a barrage of questions,
In conjunction with that live in a popular men's 民子 fact,
The boys are emotionally 詰Me寄Ra.
Flowers together and saved a confused momentum is a Class-mate
Famous Ryokan "Fukuya" (Fukuyama), daughter of a name Wakura results (Yui et a frame) was.
I have started school together in the vibrant flowers,
民子 witness the appearance of receiving a confession from the boys in the back school.
Netabare
Flowers together, the first school 民子 school 民子 result in the same class name and a popular school male flowers together as lofty dream, know someone who 民子 favorite (toll) and go on bike Toru result name
Episode 6
Clean the door and the flowers are together one morning, a woman riding in a car appears.
What she is tough business, "翆荘 tree" 立Te直Subeku, and a clerk and uncle
Wanlv fourteen (west to Shijima) management consultant hired Kawajiri Takako (Takako Kawajiri) was.
In fact, it has been proposed in this paper come from almost every month Takako was the proposal to renew a waitress outfit.
Workers, but confused in front of a flashy costume, on the recommendation of the edge intensity and Takako,
To change clothes to work anyway.
Netabare
Toru passengers to get fairly popular costume mistress → concave edges together floral comforter draft consultation fails, drawn together in the flower?
Episode 8
Together know that the flowers featured in the spa town of 翆荘 乃鷺 water trees travel magazine.
Once more and more customers are higher in the rankings inn in get them from Sui to 労Tsu and delusions.
However, the reality does not only contain one set of book was about time to take a break and Toru Caizi ....
Mr. and diving regular customer overlap good or bad, however, busy stretch 翆荘 cow.
Together to help the flowers are a waitress and even Bala Sui, would fall short.
During such, but Takako's undercover reporter to suggest that customers ....
Netabare
Hotel Sui hospital, pinch because of the consultant (mostly kitchen) together flowers, bicycle Bakuso (recall T.) K., Kanazawa into
10 episodes
Recently, the flowers were together and had been cleaning the entrance to the pay desk early every morning,
Curse would fall out of heat is impossible ....
Caizi 民子 stare anxiously flowers and sleeping together calmly, they Bayan is
Mesmerize Let us decide today, the day slowly.
Toru and bring original porridge, and show off the new temple Jiromaru sympathy,
Also watch the flowers come together everyone will take turns taking turns, looks at the flowers together even if no work around their
Do your really need to ask yourself.
Netabare
民子 flowers fall together, and intimacy rises T. earliest reference Kishida Merutsuitta not enough time to mention Mel attracted by the flowers together.
Episode 12
Hotel travel magazine rankings, given the number of Xi is bad 翆荘
Flowers together was shocked to learn that the circumstances of the adults involved.
Tohru comes to comfort and was greeted with concern 民子, three people can stay up all night in a small hotel business.
The next morning, because the flowers together to get to know the real 翆荘 good tree,
And his mother take him back and declare the kidnapping is also a writer Satsuki.
To seek cooperation with Tetsu 民子.
Toru was to understand it and take out a condition that can come along to 翆荘 Koichi.
Netabare
Together flower is self-contained, Koichi Green T. House will go to that well once came Satsuki leaving flowers together in your mind.民子 of mixed emotions.
14 story
Tropical land of flowers visited a school trip together, 民子, the earliest we left the job, enjoy the moments of the summer.
Furthermore, flowers together, inns accommodation "Fuyang" overwhelmed by the magnitude of.
Such occasion, she was in the clerk's son and heir of Hiwatashi Yosuke Inns (Yosuke over days), the result name (and Yui) and hear it in childhood.
Netabare
16 story
民子 somewhere with a glum face. Be heard together empty flowers.
When asked to finance, in turn, say they look forward to staying in cooking 民子 来Rurashiku parents 民子 yellow-green layer.
But flowers to show where the arms together to encourage that, sister's boyfriend that wrote the letter T. What
What had been worried how do I introduce.
Netabare
私はGoogleが翻訳あまりにも使用することができる、見て！
Look, I can use Google Translate too and also be wrong!
.x.crii.x.
2011-07-02, 20:57
lol Hanashi. xD I suspect Yousuke is in love with Yuina, but she's oblivious to it. Minko tries to make him confess perhaps?
lol, my general rule when I'm on vacation is to skim, not interact, otherwise I get sucked in and the boy starts complaining, but that was too ridiculous.
puffkins
2011-07-04, 02:14
Thanks a lot for trying :blush:
I found different translator. I think this is more accurate then Google.
Episode 14
[Ohana], Tamiko, and [saiko] who visited ground in the south in the school excursion part from work, and enjoy time of summer. In addition, [ohana] is overwhelmed to the size of the inn "[**] Hiroshi" at the staying destination. Then, contact Yosuke of son and heir's day (..lamplight span way.. become empty) hears that it is a childhood friend of [musumei] ([yuina]) by the clerk in the inn her.
Episode 15
[Ohana] to want to help thinks about Tamiko, [saiko], and the thing that is managing hear the secret of [musumei] from Yosuke. On the other hand, though Sui and [takashiko] spark in [yorokomidori**] over the managerial policy of the inn, and it consults about the edge that enters among again in May.
Episode 16
Tamiko who has face that doesn't float somewhere. Even if [ohana] hears it, absent-mindedness. Tamiko's parents say in [yorokomidori**] this time when it asks Toru and staying is said looking forward to Tamiko's of seeming coming dish. How to write that the boyfriend Toru's thing in the letter though it was [ohana] encouraged that it was a showing place of the arm and very to introduce it were worried.
It looks like Minko's parents are going to come and challenge her cooking skills?
I'm hoping that it isn't going to be the typical 'Minko feeds her parents something that she's made, hugs and kisses all around' sort of plot.
I am really curious about her parents. I was surprised to see that Minko was so bad in the kitchen. Not everyone ends up being an Ohana, but at that age, a lot of girls have already learned something about cooking from their mothers.
http://www44.atwiki.jp/hanasakuiroha/pages/33.html
They changed the plot of 16. It's not about Minko anymore. It seems there will be a movie that will be played in the Ryokan.
Gah, I was looking forward to more Minko!
And I'm a bit confused, I thought that all the episodes in a season are made first and in the correct order before they air? Anyone willing to explain for me? x)
Maybe they are saving for it before the finale? But next episode seems to be about the Ryokan's business problems and a movie director comes. 18 seems to be about Nako and her brothers.
Sugarless Ocean
2011-07-11, 06:58
YAY Nako backstory! :D I was hoping for it. So if that's 18 then what's 17? Part two of the movie plot?
Triple_R
2011-07-26, 18:33
Some speculations I have based on the latest episodes of HSI.
Due to Enishi's recent failures, Sui will be increasingly hesitant at letting her son inherit the Inn.
At some point, Sui will make the inheritance offer to Satsuki again.
Satsuki, who has softened on her mom a bit and who considers running an Inn a bit more of a honest living than what she's doing right now, will surprise some folks by accepting Sui's offer.
The last arc of the anime will feature Satsuki moving in to the Inn, and making significant changes to it to make it more successful in the modern era, to aid in the eventual transition of power from Sui to Satsuki.
Nako and Minchi will be largely (if not entirely) supportive of Satsuki, but Ohana will still be bearing a bit of a grudge against her mom.
The final arc (possibly along with a major romance development) will be about Satsuki and Ohana re-establishing their parental/child bond, and about setting up the Inn for a good future after Sui's retirement. I do think this anime will have a generally happy ending.
Enishi, very depressed, will bury himself in alcohol, probably joined by Jiromaru who is similarly depressed over the latest Okada cruelty dished upon him. It will actually be a somewhat funny, endearing scene as the two men share drinks over their troubles. While in a drunken stupor, the two men are walked in on by Takako making her dramatic return after being gone for a few episodes.
Takako will say she was returning to offer Enishi a special employment opportunity, but given the mess that he's in, she's changed her mind. Enishi will beg her to reconsider it but to no avail.
Takako and Satsuki will at last share a scene together, and the two have a private discussion over Enishi, where Takako reveals that she's always been jealous of how highly Enishi thought of Satsuki (which in turn hints at Takako having a crush on Enishi). After the talk, where Satsuki mildly defends her brother, Takako decides to give Enishi another chance.
She comes to him with the revelation that she's doing well in a new Business Consultant job for a sizable business in Tokyo. However, she's finding the workload too excessive for one person to handle, and hence would like to hire Enishi as an assistant - and eventually maybe even an equal partner with her.
Enishi decides that now is a time to make a clean break from his past, and agrees to take Takako's offer. He is given a brief moment of pumped glory where it's clear he's getting a happy ending, and a likely romance with Takako... before he is subjected to slapstick comedy one last time while Ohana, Minchi, and/or Nako look on with nervous laughter or disgusted looks.
As for Ohana, I'm actually less sure about her. On the romance front, nothing would surprise me (including Ohana ending up with nobody at all), but nor do I find myself leaning strongly in any particular direction.
AlHollow
2011-07-27, 02:22
It's a pity, but
Sui will die in the 22-24th episode.
Guardian Enzo
2011-07-28, 11:49
RRR, interesting theories, but the sad thing is right now I just can't muster enough interest to care. If this run of incredible mediocrity we're on reverses for a couple episodes I might feel differently.
As for your theory itself, well... Those who say Enishi is sympathetic are only off by three letters. Even so, if Satsuki takes over his inheritance after having blown the inn and her family off for almost 20 years, that would be a raw deal even for him. But my honest opinion is that a final arc centered around Satsuki and Enishi would be an anti-climax of the highest order. If Ohana and her personal situation isn't at the center of things one way or the other, the show will have been a waste of time.
0utf0xZer0
2011-07-28, 19:07
But my honest opinion is that a final arc centered around Satsuki and Enishi would be an anti-climax of the highest order. If Ohana and her personal situation isn't at the center of things one way or the other, the show will have been a waste of time.
I'm thinking the central theme of the final arc is going to be Ohana's relationship with her mother. For the moment Satsuki seems content to leave Ohana in her grandmother's care - I can't see that lasting. At which point I imagine the succession is going to suddenly become very, very important, with Ohana trying to get Satsuki and Sui to reconcile.
So my prediction on the final arc events:
-Satsuki will want Ohana back, forcing Ohana to choose between Tokyo and the inn. Of course, she'll pick the inn after some debate.
-At this point, Ohana launches her mission to get Satsuki and Sui to reconcile. To be honest, I would not be surprised if she fails, but manages to convince her mother to let her stay at the inn.
Another possibility is that Ohana's decision (Tokyo or the Inn) will be the main question of the final arc in itself, with the succession issue either left unresolved or left for a second season.
Other predictions:
-The conclusion of Enishi's story will be driven by his love of filmmaking. Regardless of who ends up running the inn, I can see him ending up doing a film to promote the area (which given the effect Hana-saku Iroha has had on the town it is based on, would be kind of meta...).
-Ohana and Kou agree to a long distance relationship, but realize that it will be difficult and may not work out.
-On the same note, I'm also thinking that episode 19 will resolve Ohana/Tohru/Minko in Minko's favour. I just don't see enough Ohana/Tohru chemistry to think otherwise.
Triple_R
2011-07-28, 21:59
RRR, interesting theories, but the sad thing is right now I just can't muster enough interest to care. If this run of incredible mediocrity we're on reverses for a couple episodes I might feel differently.
As for your theory itself, well... Those who say Enishi is sympathetic are only off by three letters. Even so, if Satsuki takes over his inheritance after having blown the inn and her family off for almost 20 years, that would be a raw deal even for him. But my honest opinion is that a final arc centered around Satsuki and Enishi would be an anti-climax of the highest order. If Ohana and her personal situation isn't at the center of things one way or the other, the show will have been a waste of time.
I think that they will be (my theories probably didn't do justice to that, as I focused mostly on Enishi and Takako), but I think that Satsuki will play a key role too.
What I wrote about Enishi and Takako is basically *all* that I think we'll see of them in the final arc. So, in other words, two or three scenes (of significance) in total. Significant, but not at the core of the story.
In Ohana's case, I think we'll see a lot more of her than what I've specifically laid out, but I'm just less confident on her. I could see Okada going many different directions with Ohana.
But there comes a point where you get a strong feeling that an author just doesn't like a specific character, and takes pleasure at writing him/her fail, frankly. :heh:
Still, HSI is a generally upbeat story that I doubt will go really dark. So in averaging these two things out, I think I have a pretty good idea of how Enishi and Takako's story will go from here.
The OP has made me speculate that Ohana will be leaving the inn. Maybe the inn goes out of business or some catastrophe befalls it. Another idea I had is that during the festival, Kissuiso will be extra busy because the festival earnings will make or break the inn. Minko being a friend to Ohana by this time does not want her to be lonely. She meets up with Ko and invites him to the inn. They get involved in an accident where Ko protects Minko and he suffers a major injury. Ohana's relationship with Minko is strained, and on top of that the inn fails. Ohana returns to Tokyo to care for Ko because her stay in the inn became a disaster.
Time skip with 30+ year old Ohana with Ko as her husband return to Kissuiso to try and revive it. They have a daughter.
20 episodes Festival "Xianglin Love"
Once a year, decided to play the lead in Toru Xianglin festival is held in 乃鷺 water. 乃鷺 Soup
參加 the festival as a representative to be male.
On the other hand, the role of the heroine and the other had been chosen name is Tetsu results. In preparation for the festival clothing
When combined with a 裝, as was the place name in the results I have anything to chill the 民子 ....
Story ■ 21 "Reviving, die"
Once a year, the festival is held in 乃鷺 Xianglin water. Name of the heroine's sudden rush to the mound results
The issue of, a plan emerged to be chosen to lead the heroine suddenly ... T..
Story ■ 22 "crush determination"
Kurama's whereabouts since the festival was 民子 Xianglin. Happiness is to embark on 翆荘 search and temporary closing
The Tau was a 一向Ni 摑 clues.
I felt that the flowers together in their responsibility to resolve the 翆荘 Heat Hei Mel.
0utf0xZer0
2011-08-01, 16:40
Out of curiousity, where are you finding those? All the sites I've seen don't list past 19 yet.
I've tended to find that I have more luck looking up individual words and then trying to piece them together that just letting Google Translate try and do everything., so it would be nice to have access to the original Japanese.
Archon_Wing
2011-08-08, 00:25
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if their won't be much romantic closure, and Ohana x Inn, becomes more likely.
Maybe they were going for that, and if you think about it, romance in these kinds of shows tends to be very dominant, so perhaps someone wants to write about Ohana not needing romance and just going off on her own.
Ohana might just be like Nanoha and put her work ahead of all else at this point. She's still young, after all.
If they did that, that would set Hana Saku Iroha apart from others of its genre. My prediction is this will end up with Ohana inheriting the inn once Sui dies; maybe even skip a few years and have that as the final arc.
The show's gone out of the way to tell me all romantic options blow, so... it has successfully discouraged me from any form of shipping.
Or they just make chicken out with some ambiguous romantic ending. Just no...
0utf0xZer0
2011-08-08, 00:31
I still think the resolution of the romantic threads may be Kou and Ohana learning to just be friends again, with the possibility of future romance. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think Ohana would have preferred they just stayed friends and I think Kou would have preferred to wait a little longer (or at least been more subtle) and just got desperate to make his feelings known.
Archon_Wing
2011-08-08, 00:41
Hmm, I guess leaving the door open to that isn't that awful either. But if they pursue this, they really need to reach a solid understanding.
Or season 2 lawl.
Pocari_Sweat
2011-08-08, 00:51
Hmm, I guess leaving the door open to that isn't that awful either. But if they pursue this, they really need to reach a solid understanding.
Or season 2 lawl.
Hanasaku Iroha 2 - Festing/Sparkling it up in College
Guardian Enzo
2011-08-08, 01:58
Good Lord, no S2 please - a second cour was a mistake. If this had been a one-cour show it might just have been a classic, given how great the best episodes were.
Pocari_Sweat
2011-08-08, 02:01
Lol guess my sarcasm didn't work out :D
Triple_R
2011-08-08, 02:05
The only way I'd be interested in a Season 2 is if Okada personally writes every episode herself.
The quality difference between (most) Okada-wrote episodes and (most) non-Okada wrote episodes is rather large.
It seems like only Okada can effective write the episodes for her own "Series Composition".
blakstealth
2011-08-08, 21:44
Hanasaku Iroha 2 - Festing/Sparkling it up in CollegeHey, sounds like a feckin money maker to me.
The more I watch that 2nd OP the more I buy into the theory that it's Ohana reminiscing her time at Kissuiso as she's going back to Tokyo,it opens up with her alone in regular clothes with her eyes closed,the next scene the resumes where the previous OP left off with the girls getting off the train.At the end we're back to Ohana alone on the train,she opens her eyes,we then see the bodies of 3 highschool girls running but Ohana herself isn't in school uniform,that seems odd,and I can't get over the fact that it seems those 3 girls kind of fade away as if they were ghosts before leaving the screen.
The more I watch that 2nd OP the more I buy into the theory that it's Ohana reminiscing her time at Kissuiso as she's going back to Tokyo,it opens up with her alone in regular clothes with her eyes closed,the next scene the resumes where the previous OP left off with the girls getting off the train.At the end we're back to Ohana alone on the train,she opens her eyes,we then see the bodies of 3 highschool girls running but Ohana herself isn't in school uniform,that seems odd,and I can't get over the fact that it seems those 3 girls kind of fade away as if they were ghosts before leaving the screen.
The three girls are supposed to be Ohana, Nako, and then Minko judging by the charms they always have on their bags. They're memories of when she used to rush to the train each morning (I'm guessing).
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