Hidan no Aria - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[Midonin]

That's one way to do a cheerleading routine. Certainly in line with the theme of the school, but a bit on the wild side, dontcha think so? And poor Kinji, falling into the Tokyo Bay for a second time this arc. But I'm getting ahead of myself. There's an entire episode I've yet to cover.

Interesting how Shirayuki's name is in no way indicative of her massive firepower. And her massive fire power. Made for a nice thematic battle with Jeanne d'Arc there. Apparently Joan's been up to quite a lot.

Pop quiz time.

Joan of Arc:

A) Has a Butei descendent
B) Was a Puella Magi
C) Wears a mustache to play basketball
D) Was reincarnated as a high school girl to seal demons in paintings

Answer at your own leisure.

Some nice action this episode, some of it in part to Hysteria Mode. I suspect Kinji had reason to suspect that Shirayuki wasn't herself because of the color of her undergarments. That's always a good indicator of someone being who they are in anime. It's foolproof.

Truth be told, I'm looking forward to the next arc. Primarily because of the location. It's perfect for this idea I've got banging around in my head, but I have to see how the show does things before I begin. And it looks like next week is when it begins.

Until then, folks.

[Icy.Tear]

Jeanne...oh God...

Episode was quite enjoyable. Edge Catching was slightly less awesome, but that's alright.

[tsunade666]

Disappointed.... utterly in lots of aspects in the fight. Even with a saving grace from the appearance of our queen.... haiz

Why didn't they show the battle of shirayuki vs jeanne!? I'm expecting spell spam here because that's the essence of a choutei battle but not. Thy cut it!!! they instead show Aria and Kinji talking and it's the one hand sword catching was turn into 2 hands!!!! and he even throw away his gun!!!!! wtf

[blitz1/2]

this episode = hidan no aria's version of Frostmourne vs. Ashbringer.

[ars89]

Wow so Durandal is a descendant of Joan of Arc. Totally digged her true design though.

Nice job by Kinji to Kiss Shirayuki to turn his HM on to save her. That was great teamwork to defeat Durandal.

Like how Aria got to Shirayuki to be a cheerleader. Lol bribe her Kinji's master key to be a friend. Is he going to get sick again after that bail.

So Riko is back next ep/

[AzureWrath]

Was it just me or did production value plummet to rock bottom low....very often?

[mysterious]

I wish they would have animate the flame of Shirayuki a little bit more inspired. It looks just plain in this episode.. It seems she finally decides to be brave now.

[KilluaX90]

Grrr... JC Staff, they just have to ruin every single climax fighting scene :frustrated:

Where is the awesome fight between 2 chouteis? And give me back Kinji's Edge Catching single-hand version :frustrated:


I guess I should give up on the "Quadras under the moon" fight next episode then:(


Kinda feel like getting punched by Touma:heh:

[FlareKnight]

The fight did seem pretty short with them cutting away to Aria and Kinji planning their move. Would definitely prefer to watch the other two go at it instead. Think they could have put more time into that fight and make it better overall. Still I suppose it could have been worse and at least we saw a fight. Not a bad catch there by Kinji, though not much he can do against ice powers.

Seems like the team/harem is building right up. Though if they are going to just keep going against one enemy at a time even that might be overkill. Still holding out also on the whole Holmes power that requires a partner.

Wasn't too surprised about Durandal being a girl since I figured that most enemies were going to turn out that way for this series.

[larethian]

an average adaptation of the fight.

and where's the "I'm a Grade 17 Stealth" line?

[Hiro Hayase]

They really did skip a lot in this episode. Nevertheless, a decent episode for the anime only viewers. Plus animation quality does seem to have dropped a bit. I agree with larethian.

The "I'm a Grade 17 Stealth" did have significance to the plot with choutei's, The Jeanne vs Shirayuki fight was toned down, and the blushing Jeanne when Shoujo version Kinji calls her an oujo-sama. Btw Kinji's bullet proof cabinet seems non-existent as well. I'm disappointed, but oh well.

[Icy.Tear]

Is that what we're calling ability users now?

I bet it's just Koko butchering Japanese ^^

[larethian]

oh yeah they didn't explain the original traps laid by Jeanne for Aria.

[Silverwyrm]

So...how far does this"butei must not kill people" thing go? I mean, if they have all these guns and swords and super powers but no matter what they aren't allowed to kill you...that can quickly become a disadvantage, especially if the opponent wasn't outnumbered and couldn't be suppressed.

[Chaos2Frozen]

So...how far does this"butei must not kill people" thing go? I mean, if they have all these guns and swords and super powers but no matter what they aren't allowed to kill you...that can quickly become a disadvantage, especially if the opponent wasn't outnumbered and couldn't be suppressed.

Its apparently one of those absolute laws, even at the cost of yours or others lives it will never be justified... Yeah, I know how it sounds.

That said, it doesnt mean you cant shoot out both kneecaps...

[Silverwyrm]

Its apparently one of those absolute laws, even at the cost of yours or others lives it will never be justified... Yeah, I know how it sounds.

That said, it doesnt mean you cant shoot out both kneecaps...

Then get shot in the face. =/ Even against saving others, it seems a bit...blah

[kache]

For people trained in warfare since they were born and with superpowers they are sure dumb...
No, wait, the characters don't have any fault in this. Only the storywriter is an idiot...

[Haak]

Durandal had enough time to get away and tie Shirayuki up in chains? Amazing.

Wait a minute. They know his plan is usually to split them up and take them out one by one. So Kinji decides it's a good idea to split up?

Oh great, now Kinji's spending precious time arguing with Shirayuki. Perfect.

Hot damn, they kissed. Practical AND emotional at the same time. WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT BEFORE?!?!?!

WTF? Jeanne D'Arc?!?!?

Wait a minute that voice sounds familiar...HOLY CRAP IT'S SABER!!!

OMG, this is geting awesome now...too bad it's ruined by the fact that they show Kinji and Aira having a convo whilst I hear screams and clashes in the background. It's kind amusing in a way...

Damn Kinji, I'm wondering at what point you'll reveal those Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

Lol, talking sure is a free action for Shirayuki. She has enough time to scream and incredible long name for an attack whilst D'Arc is in the middle of hers.

OMG, what an absurb waste of ammo. DX

AHAHAHA, It's nice to see a harem lead do practical things like jump out of the window at the first sign of harem trouble. It's a refreshing take.

So yeah overall decent episode.

[dragon132004]

I really liked this episode... Well mostly like because I haven't read the Light Novels and Manga yet ;D... But nevertheless, The Background music is REALLY ONE OF THE BEST IN THIS SEASON... I even ordered it from CDJapan, it's the first anime I am actually buying its Music CDs, and unlike some guys here, I didn't notice that animation drop though I do agree they should've shown more of The Jeanne vs Shirayuki fight, it would've had rocked even more :D.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Its apparently one of those absolute laws, even at the cost of yours or others lives it will never be justified... Yeah, I know how it sounds.

That said, it doesnt mean you cant shoot out both kneecaps...

Of course they obviously won't shoot anyone in the balls either....

Choutei battle this ep could have been better...I mean it was originally largely Shirayuki's show in this fight.

[Spat]

The fighting scene was pretty awesome, wished it lasted longer though. :)
And I really like Jeanne's design.

[Marcus H.]

Is that what we're calling ability users now?

I bet it's just Koko butchering Japanese ^^

I thought choutei = chounouryoku-butei = Ability-User Butei.

[tsunade666]

I thought choutei = chounouryoku-butei = Ability-User Butei.

it's supposed to be spell spam battle but I only see Kinji and Aria battle meeting and sounds of clashing swords. It's a choutei battle!!!! Witch Jeanne vs Miko Shirayuki :twitch: and I only saw the flame spell at the breaking of durandal. Flaming birds should be flying and every field should be freezing but it didn't!!!! it butchered the quality and also the battle :frustrated: :frustrated:

I'm expecting a saint battle without respect to collateral damage.

Kinji is even stupid enough to throw away his gun :heh: even knowing his knife wouldn't matter against durandal's blade.

I didn't also get to see Kinji dare to sweet talk the enemy!!! where's! my dere Jeanne!

while watching this episode it really gives me continues damage of how irritating the studio do justify to this awesome battle.

[Darknemo2000]

Disappointed.... utterly in lots of aspects in the fight. Even with a saving grace from the appearance of our queen.... haiz

Why didn't they show the battle of shirayuki vs jeanne!? I'm expecting spell spam here because that's the essence of a choutei battle but not. Thy cut it!!! they instead show Aria and Kinji talking and it's the one hand sword catching was turn into 2 hands!!!! and he even throw away his gun!!!!! wtf

Its JC Staff. You already knew they were the studio taking this so you should have been mentally prepared for a lots of cutting, bad directing and overall unsatisfying conversion from Light Novels to anime.

Try to look at the bright side - JC Staff could always do worse.

[Wigwams]

jeanne lost because she failed to equip "Victory". :heh:

[mangatron]

A rather fun ep, this coming from a non-novel reader and one who has only read up to manga ch16. But I did notice some odd placing of some scenes, which really didn't feel right (like the previously mentioned time it took to tie up Shirayandere), and for production quality, it only felt like they could have done better and not necessarily about them drawing it worse.

I got a few beefs though, which only makes me laugh more so than get irritated by it, and it's about the part where Kinji is picking Shirayandere's lock. Ok, you might need to think like a pervert in order to get what I'm saying:heh:, but really, let's say it took him 10 minutes to pick that first lock, and he's like "that took a while". Remember the scene here? Where he's underwater. Now, here's what I don't get. Shirayandere has water up to her chin, and her boobie's are underwater. The lock is right below her Valley of the Mountains, and her clothes are like, you know.... WET. With a see through black bra showing itself. Why the heck didn't Kinji go all Hysteria upon looking at that? He picked that first lock for a great deal of time, don't tell me you wouldn't notice her boobies:heh: If that was me picking her locks, I would have "accidentally" slipped and bury my face into her cleavage and go "oops, butterfingers ;D " I don't care if she'd kill me, I know I can't avoid seeing her bra :heh:

ahem, anyways, Jeanne D Arc? Who's next, Pochahontas? Cleopatra? :heh:

I like how the cheerleaders shot up the pom poms, totally caught me off guard, probably because I've aways known those stray bullets will fall somewhere :heh:

And the arc ends the way it began: Shirayandere drawing her sword against Aria. Honestly, I enjoyed this part very much, and I lol'ed when Aria flew away from Shirayandere's swings :heh:

[~Yami~]

I really liked this episode... Well mostly like because I haven't read the Light Novels and Manga yet ;D... But nevertheless, The Background music is REALLY ONE OF THE BEST IN THIS SEASON... I even ordered it from CDJapan, it's the first anime I am actually buying its Music CDs, and unlike some guys here, I didn't notice that animation drop though I do agree they should've shown more of The Jeanne vs Shirayuki fight, it would've had rocked even more :D.

yeah! I love the background music when the battle scene started....

this episode had a lot of action scene so I'm satisfied about it

Kinji is really a playboy!! argh! he hit Aria and Shirayuki at the same time.... I am jealous with that HS mode.... T_T

I give 9/10 for this episode although there are still some flaw but I think that's not a big problem

Jeanne should join the harem.... she is moe enough and remind me about Jeanne from Shaman King and Eucliwood from Kore wa zombie.... lol

[Cosmic Eagle]

it's supposed to be spell spam battle but I only see Kinji and Aria battle meeting and sounds of clashing swords. It's a choutei battle!!!! Witch Jeanne vs Miko Shirayuki :twitch: and I only saw the flame spell at the breaking of durandal. Flaming birds should be flying and every field should be freezing but it didn't!!!! it butchered the quality and also the battle :frustrated: :frustrated:

I'm expecting a saint battle without respect to collateral damage.

Kinji is even stupid enough to throw away his gun :heh: even knowing his knife wouldn't matter against durandal's blade.

I didn't also get to see Kinji dare to sweet talk the enemy!!! where's! my dere Jeanne!

while watching this episode it really gives me continues damage of how irritating the studio do justify to this awesome battle.

They did that with many Index battles too....ah well at least the overall quality didn't suffer too badly.

I just hope this means they are saving their budget for vol 3...

[Yui Is My Wife]

I wanted to like this episode, I really, REALLY did.

The nerd in me screamed "Hell Yeah" when Jean D'Arc's costume matched the most famous role of her sexy voice Actress Kawasumi Ayako, and was jumping out of my chair, up and down like a monkey for the cataclysmic battle....

....that was supposed to explode onto the screen. :frustrated:

After precisely 7 seconds of heart-pounding ferocity as the embodiments of fire and ice clashed blades like thunder, we were "treated" to 2 MINUTES of Kinji and Aria going lovey dovey with zero motion while MISSING OUT on an epic confrontation between two sword-goddesses.

At least the 45 seconds of what we DID get to see in the end was still passably worthy as a JC Staff animated melee battle, though nowhere as good as the set-in-stone classic of Touma VS Accelerator.

Even though I am willing to be lenient, as the Earthquake DID hit their offices pretty hard, this is the FIRST time I am actually ANGRY with JC Staff.

They had better fucking be saving money for Index 3 or Railgun 2 or I will be liable to go Shirayuki on them!! :frustrated::heh:

[Haak]

After precisely 7 seconds of heart-pounding ferocity as the embodiments of fire and ice clashed blades like thunder, we were "treated" to 2 MINUTES of Kinji and Aria going lovey dovey with zero motion while MISSING OUT on an epic confrontation between two sword-goddesses.

I know right? And we could hear all the clashes and screaming in the background like they were trolling us. It's Katanagatari episode 4 all over again.

[KLGChaos]

Would have given it a 9 but it lost a couple of points for one reason-- they messed up the sword catch. The novel version had him catching the sword with ONE HAND, between his thumb and forefinger. They ruined the epicness of the catch by having him do a regular 2h grab.

[Malkuth]

Is it me or Kanade is a cc of Kanade@Asura Cryin'

Oh! and Jeanne looks exactly like Saber Lily :nono:

[Sheba]

It was all nice and good... until those two minutes of Kinji & Aria talking while shirayuki and Jeanne were battling. It really felt like JC were cutting corners AND did not give the material the love I could feel when I watched the better episodes of Shana.

[AP24]

They should have at least make Aria much kawaii when she's talking to Kinji, she's a lot cuter in that scene in the novels. Also, near the end of the episode we were supposed to see another scene of Aria being so kawaii but it was cut in the anime. The anime is like Shakugan no Shana, which Shana is very kawaii in the novels but not shown much like that in the anime. I think it's the director's fault, he directed both Shana and Aria.

[Cosmic Eagle]

I wanted to like this episode, I really, REALLY did.

The nerd in me screamed "Hell Yeah" when Jean D'Arc's costume matched the most famous role of her sexy voice Actress Kawasumi Ayako, and was jumping out of my chair, up and down like a monkey for the cataclysmic battle....

....that was supposed to explode onto the screen. :frustrated:

After precisely 7 seconds of heart-pounding ferocity as the embodiments of fire and ice clashed blades like thunder, we were "treated" to 2 MINUTES of Kinji and Aria going lovey dovey with zero motion while MISSING OUT on an epic confrontation between two sword-goddesses.

At least the 45 seconds of what we DID get to see in the end was still passably worthy as a JC Staff animated melee battle, though nowhere as good as the set-in-stone classic of Touma VS Accelerator.

Even though I am willing to be lenient, as the Earthquake DID hit their offices pretty hard, this is the FIRST time I am actually ANGRY with JC Staff.

They had better fucking be saving money for Index 3 or Railgun 2 or I will be liable to go Shirayuki on them!! :frustrated::heh:

Oh that will surely sell well.....Surely.

[Hyakimaru]

Jean D'Arc?:twitch: Ok, with all the random famous figures having descendant out of nowhere I wouldn't be surprised if sniper girl actually turned out to be Golgo 14 or something stupid like that.

Anyway this episode was pretty ok~ish... nothing particularly interesting and it's obviously just the setup for the typical harem status quo we have only seen about a thousand times already... Admittedly Shirayuki having fire powers despite her name was really unexpected and kind of cool.

[Marcus H.]

I just realized that the director of Shana is a hit and miss director.
I really thought that he did a good job creating an anime-original story arc with Shana's Second Season.

As for Toaru Majutsu no Index, the source story is too chunky to be adopted into 24 episodes. Should have had 48 or at least 36.

@Hyakimaru
They are going for accuracy here. The original light novels lose its touch when Kinji's internal monologues are taken out.

As for this series, it's not going well for me. I still can't drop this series, but the feeling of disappointment is so much that I could just shed tears right now. ;_; I have left the series at Episode 05, and I don't know if I can push on any further.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Anyway this episode was pretty ok~ish... nothing particularly interesting and it's obviously just the setup for the typical harem status quo we have only seen about a thousand times already... Admittedly Shirayuki having fire powers despite her name was really unexpected and kind of cool.

Her real name is Himiko not Shiraiyuki; 'Hi' usually means 'fire' so her real name is literally the 'Fire Priestess', though this might also have a double wordplay as I learned that 'Himiko' is the name of a certain Japanese Noblewoman in the past.

[tsunade666]

Her real name was Himiko and the who is Himiko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himiko) in the past

[Anh_Minh]

A rather fun ep, this coming from a non-novel reader and one who has only read up to manga ch16. But I did notice some odd placing of some scenes, which really didn't feel right (like the previously mentioned time it took to tie up Shirayandere), and for production quality, it only felt like they could have done better and not necessarily about them drawing it worse.

I got a few beefs though, which only makes me laugh more so than get irritated by it, and it's about the part where Kinji is picking Shirayandere's lock. Ok, you might need to think like a pervert in order to get what I'm saying:heh:, but really, let's say it took him 10 minutes to pick that first lock, and he's like "that took a while". Remember the scene here? Where he's underwater. Now, here's what I don't get. Shirayandere has water up to her chin, and her boobie's are underwater. The lock is right below her Valley of the Mountains, and her clothes are like, you know.... WET. With a see through black bra showing itself. Why the heck didn't Kinji go all Hysteria upon looking at that? He picked that first lock for a great deal of time, don't tell me you wouldn't notice her boobies:heh:
It was dark. If it was underwater, he probably couldn't see it.
If that was me picking her locks, I would have "accidentally" slipped and bury my face into her cleavage and go "oops, butterfingers ;D " I don't care if she'd kill me, I know I can't avoid seeing her bra :heh:

She'd never kill Kinji for that...

[Chaos2Frozen]

It's a shame, I really wanted to see what the aru=kata looks like for cheer leading as well as the weird song they were using; I guess some things are just left to the imagination :heh:

[MiMi_B]

Maybe I expected a little too much...

Saw this episode with my brother, (I read the LN and he didn't) who found it a little difficult to follow exactly what's going on.
E.g., why would Durandal leave Shirayuki chanined in water to die after all the trouble she went through to abduct her, and why didn't Kinji go into his Hysteria Mode from the beginning, etc.
The pacing felt a little odd, with too much of long talks in the middle of what's supposed to be a tense action scene.

Sword fight scene was okay, but they could've definitely done more with Shirayuki's fire power, especially after that lengthy talk about how she's afraid Kinji might find her "scary" and her finally revealing the "forbidden" power, and even undoing her hair!

I don't really want to sound like a complainer, but I am quite disappointed with how Kinji's character was portrayed in this arc. (I wrote this in my post in Ep. 7 discussion thread too) Am I the only one who feels this way?

Somehow it feels like Kinji suddenly turned into a different person after the first arc. He used to be this indifferent, cool guy (fit for someone called the "gloomy one") with "whatever" attitude with people around him in normal mode, and somewhat of a "gigolo" in Hysteria Mode. But in the second arc, Kinji suddenly turned into a gentle, caring, sweet-talking guy in his normal mode, and even in Hysteria Mode he sounds more like a shojo hero than a gigolo.
or example, he used to say "it doesn't concern you" in cool voice when Shirayuki got teary-eyed worrying about him not eating properly. And now he says "don't worry and let me take care of cleaning this up" in a really gentle tone (almost like Ryuji from Toradora) when Shirayuki fussed over the broken bottle of his cold medicine.

Maybe it's poor script writing, since his character stays pretty consistent in the LN with only gradual development. What do you think?

[tsunade666]

^ blame the studio or anime or director. There's no way Kinji can be describe as normal even in his normal mode. That guy likes to complain a lot and easily to be irritated and doesn't care much about other stuff that doesn't involve him directly. Since they cut off the monolog of Kinji they make him a bit better character and I mean better because if they add that. Lots of complaints about him would probably pop up. Just like how idiot Ichika is. Kinji is in the path between from the worst to the best MC for me. But mostly he irritates me when I read his inner thoughts and it's a good thing they cut it. To cut some time for his complaints but it changes a bit of his character but still it works fine.

His better to be viewed that way for the anime viewers and I like him more on this arc than when I read vol 2. :D

[Chaos2Frozen]

Kinji in the second volume... Or rather, Kinji when he's not saving damsels in distress or in Hysteria Mode (or both), is a pretty whiny character- In his head of course. The anime viewers are spared from that dark secret. I never got that impression that he's a 'whatever' cool character because he's quite ... Petty? Concern? Anal? Well lets just say that he's constantly troubled by many factors.

You're familiar with him not liking to interact with girls; but aside that he's pretty much against any thing that defiles the public perception of 'normal life'.

And all the secrets... Oh boy, rather than a harem lead, he could also be a soap opera actor :heh:

[Anh_Minh]

Maybe I expected a little too much...

Saw this episode with my brother, (I read the LN and he didn't) who found it a little difficult to follow exactly what's going on.
E.g., why would Durandal leave Shirayuki chanined in water to die after all the trouble she went through to abduct her, and why didn't Kinji go into his Hysteria Mode from the beginning, etc.
The pacing felt a little odd, with too much of long talks in the middle of what's supposed to be a tense action scene.

Sword fight scene was okay, but they could've definitely done more with Shirayuki's fire power, especially after that lengthy talk about how she's afraid Kinji might find her "scary" and her finally revealing the "forbidden" power, and even undoing her hair!

I don't really want to sound like a complainer, but I am quite disappointed with how Kinji's character was portrayed in this arc. (I wrote this in my post in Ep. 7 discussion thread too) Am I the only one who feels this way?

I really hated him during the first part of the novel, so I'm kinda glad the anime glossed over that. I wasn't looking forward to watching him be an asshole.

[Hyakimaru]

Her real name is Himiko not Shiraiyuki; 'Hi' usually means 'fire' so her real name is literally the 'Fire Priestess', though this might also have a double wordplay as I learned that 'Himiko' is the name of a certain Japanese Noblewoman in the past.

I know that, I meant the name we knew so far in the story Shirayuki (which means snow white) being just a fake one used to hide her true name and fire nature was unexpected and clever.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I know that, I meant the name we knew so far in the story Shirayuki (which means snow white) being just a fake one used to hide her true name and fire nature was unexpected and clever.

In any case, we have a katana wielding fire user, so that's one more similarity with 'that other show' that we can check off the list :cool:

P.S - You know, I think I'm just going to paint all my text navy blue from now on since it goes so well with my new Avatar :nod:

[Cosmic Eagle]

Best thing about this ep though....Jeanne's design and her voice. Effing lovely...

[tsunade666]

I know that, I meant the name we knew so far in the story Shirayuki (which means snow white) being just a fake one used to hide her true name and fire nature was unexpected and clever.

I'm also surprised by it. I mean her name was totally different from her real name. From snow to flame. Or rather the whole setting of vol 2 or 2nd arc surprised me because of the whole choutei battle :heh:

[Hyakimaru]

In any case, we have a katana wielding fire user, so that's one more similarity with 'that other show' that we can check off the list :cool:


Next I vote for an emotionless battle maid :D

I'm also surprised by it. I mean her name was totally different from her real name. From snow to flame. Or rather the whole setting of vol 2 or 2nd arc surprised me because of the whole choutei battle :heh:

Yeah, since usually on this stories names are a pun of a person abilities, it's nice to see someone that breaks the mold... Ok she doesn't exactly breaks it since her real name is a pun of her powers but... close enough :p

[Yui Is My Wife]

In any case, we have a katana wielding fire user, so that's one more similarity with 'that other show' that we can check off the list :cool:


Well, except Shirayuki is anything but a Bandage-Covered Social-Darwinist who literally fuels the fire of her sword with the fats and oils of the people that she has kileld with it accumulated within its serrated cutting edge. :heh:

[Dextro]

You know what really annoyed me in this episode? It was a minor thing but I think it really shows how badly the plot was handled in this particular arc.

So Jeanne D'arc escapes and says while unable to be seen that she has the advantage because the others don't know what she looks like...

...only to show up in front of them and clearly visible just a mere minute or so later nullifying that supposed advantage!

I seriously facepalmed at that one. Heck I was close to slamming my head on the table (http://youtu.be/knCjKPx1wzo?t=1m28s) over that particular detail.

[Yui Is My Wife]

jyIG3N43YR0

You weren't the only one. :heh:

[Haak]

You know what really annoyed me in this episode? It was a minor thing but I think it really shows how badly the plot was handled in this particular arc.

So Jeanne D'arc escapes and says while unable to be seen that she has the advantage because the others don't know what she looks like...

...only to show up in front of them and clearly visible just a mere minute or so later nullifying that supposed advantage!

I seriously facepalmed at that one. Heck I was close to slamming my head on the table (http://youtu.be/knCjKPx1wzo?t=1m28s) over that particular detail.

I thought she was simply saying that revealing her true form would make her more powerful, not hide it.

[HayashiTakara]

The art took a dip this episode. But it was decent.

Shirayuki and Kinji moments were sweet, Jeanne is kinda stupid... she gloated how her advantage was that they didn't know what she looked like, than stepped out in the open a minute later.

Also, a perfect example of how someone who relies on a special weapon too much can spell their downfall.

Anyway, next episode looks like fun, and how many girls is Kinji gonna kiss to initiate his Hysteria mode? :heh:

[MeisterBabylon]

So I caught up with Red Shot Aria. And when Jenne was explaining her past, I had only 1 conclusion:

Knights templar, now known as Aberdigo Industries! Its a fanfic plot hook waiting to happen.

[Sheba]

The templar knights have disappeared before Jeanne and they would be conspiring the fall of French monarchy instead of helping it to go with the curse of Jacques de Molay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay#Curse).

And the whole bit about a fake Jeanne at the stake don't bother me so much. Back in her time, she have become the Elvis Presley of the Middle Ages, as in people have sworn to have seen her alive and well, well until the decades passed.

[king12354]

I knew that this would happen but I am really disappointed with this series. They had a good setting but ruined it with very poorly conceived plot.

[xTinXion07]

I knew that this would happen but I am really disappointed with this series. They had a good setting but ruined it with very poorly conceived plot.

Agree. They didn't go deep into the story.
Like here
Shirayuki and Jeanne fought.
Aria and Kinji interfered, and that's it. >.< Jeanne lost.
There's even no Single Hand Edge Catching :(

[broken270]

I have to admit, i was kind of disappointed with timing, but it was overall a decent show.

What get me irked up was the immediate time skip from Aria's departure to him figuring out how to open the other remaining locks. Only when he kissed her to be in Hysteria mode was be able to solve the lock problem. Then, we have Jeanne talking about how her ability is to mimic someone's appearance, which she could have utilized on all three of them one by one, but she just revealed her true self like that. Again, why does it have the be the beautiful ones that have a few loose screws in their heads? Anyway, the fight scene between her and Shirayuki (a.k.a. Himiko) was pretty intense. More can be done with it, in my opinion. In any case, one swing of her flaming sword and Durandel was cut. All is well, another case is closed, Aria gains a friend, Shirayuki tells her off in her yandere mode, and poor Kinji just had to fall in Tokyo Bay once more.

[HandofFate]

I laughed when it turns out Durandal is another long decedent of an old kind of legendary name.

Then Shirayuki is like 'oh yea, my stuff been passed down for 2000 years!'



eh, I guess fire is a pretty common power to add into the show. Don't really get why she would think Kenji would think she was a monster or something..

yea, u use a sword made of fire...u monster....every guy's secret dream..zzzz

though her Choutei powers didn't have anything to do with her hoto heritage...but it still is..

[Bonta Kun]

I thought she was simply saying that revealing her true form would make her more powerful, not hide it.

Well wouldn't that be a sweet little power then, what was the point of hiding all this time?

Really this show is the zone of decent, jumping between being good or bad throughout.
It's a show you know is not so good but can't help but like it cause it somehow amuses ya.

I feel like tearing into this ep about all the smalls things that just make you think ".......really?" but I'll just go with one of my pet peeves about these types of animes, is the fact you should never take your eyes off the enemy yet Aria looks away and even closes her eyes-__-
And for the hell of it I'll throw in the part with Kinji pointing his gun at Jeanne.
He should have had his gun trained on her at all times ever since he noticed it wasn't Shirayuki but whats worse is after he points and is told not to move he pulls his gun away again!
Thats way too much gun movement for such a situation>__<

I know this is anime but come on!

p.s the eyecatch of Miss Jeanne D'arc was smoking!:D

[Suiri Megami Alice]

Well wouldn't that be a sweet little power then, what was the point of hiding all this time?
Unleashing that power is forbidden by the Hotogis. And, also showing her true power before Kinji's eyes is another reason but I gotta say that it's quite trivial.

And for the hell of it I'll throw in the part with Kinji pointing his gun at Jeanne.
He should have had his gun trained on her at all times ever since he noticed it wasn't Shirayuki but whats worse is after he points and is told not to move he pulls his gun away again!
Thats way too much gun movement for such a situation>__<
Agreed, the gun movement was quite unordinary. I especially facepalmed myself when I saw Kinji threw his gun to Aria in the last moment. They probably thought it was cool move but imo the one he did in the LN is more rational/awesome.

That was the case in light novel and the very reason why Kinji used one-hand edge catching (instead of 2h in the anime, it pissed me off to see a different one instead) is because he needed the gun on his right hand to checkmate Jeanne.

[Chaos2Frozen]

That was the case in light novel and the very reason why Kinji used one-hand edge catching (instead of 2h in the anime, it pissed me off to see a different one instead) is because he needed the gun on his right hand to checkmate Jeanne.

I don't know, maybe to the director a two hand edge catcher is already pushing the limits of the viewer's expected belief, let along a two finger single hand edge catcher.

[Hyakimaru]

I don't know, maybe to the director a two hand edge catcher is already pushing the limits of the viewer's expected belief, let along a two finger single hand edge catcher.

Don´t forget that the edge was a really heavy looking broadsword with ice powers so suspension of disbelief was already pushed to it´s maximum.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Don´t forget that the edge was a really heavy looking broadsword with ice powers so suspension of disbelief was already pushed to it´s maximum.

Lets assume that humans can react fast enough to a swinging sword, I would think that a bigger surface area would allow for a better grip.

But to catch with only two fingers? Against a sword that size?

Sure I get that there are many crazy things in this series (and many more to come), but some things are way far off the reservations than others.

[HandofFate]

Lets assume that humans can react fast enough to a swinging sword, I would think that a bigger surface area would allow for a better grip.

But to catch with only two fingers? Against a sword that size?

Sure I get that there are many crazy things in this series (and many more to come), but some things are way far off the reservations than others.

But he's in HYSTERIA MODE.
It is kind of a shame that it turns out they're kind of downplaying his abilities.

Like the very first episode, it was nice, you got a feel that his mood is really something awesome.

But every episode afterwards, whenever Kenji got into it, its just like regular kenji, only maybe 5-10% better instead of like 100-200% of what it should be.

[Anh_Minh]

Meh. Mythbusters did the edge catching thing. IIRC, it didn't turn out well.

[Marcus H.]

Meh. Mythbusters did the edge catching thing. IIRC, it didn't turn out well.

Even in the realm of ninjas.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2yxet0w.jpg

[Cosmic Eagle]

Lets assume that humans can react fast enough to a swinging sword, I would think that a bigger surface area would allow for a better grip.

But to catch with only two fingers? Against a sword that size?

Sure I get that there are many crazy things in this series (and many more to come), but some things are way far off the reservations than others.

.......You think THAT is "far off" when there are even more O__o things?

[Anh_Minh]

.......You think THAT is "far off" when there are even more O__o things?

I'd say it falls in the uncanny valley of realism. Whereas flame or ice powers are met with a shrug of willing suspension of disbelief, edge catching seems almost possible... but very clearly not so in the case of one handed catching.

[Haak]

I haven't read the novel but I'd rather Kinji do a two hand catch than stick loyal to the adaption and do a two finger catch. Neither would probably work anyway but a two handed catch looks more plausable. And yeah it was a pretty big sword. I don't think it's within the bounds of human physiology to have THAT much finger strength.

[Chaos2Frozen]

.......You think THAT is "far off" when there are even more O__o things?

Well there's no exact science, it just one of those things that you have less reasons to believe in. With the two hand edge catching, even if you know it's impossible, there's enough circumstances to make you think it's possible. But nobody in their right mind would ever think two fingers can stop a broadsword.

[Bonta Kun]

I haven't read the novel but I'd rather Kinji do a two hand catch than stick loyal to the adaption and do a two finger catch. Neither would probably work anyway but a two handed catch looks more plausable. And yeah it was a pretty big sword. I don't think it's within the bounds of human physiology to have THAT much finger strength.

Samurai Deeper Kyo wants a word:heh:

I was fine with the 2 handed catch, it was the stuff before that annoyed me more than anything else.

But then we do have all these girls with small frames being super stong, I would like to think Kinji in HM would be alot stronger than them but meh.

[Chaos2Frozen]

But then we do have all these girls with small frames being super stong, I would like to think Kinji in HM would be alot stronger than them but meh.

Small sized people can be deceivingly strong; But You don't exactly have many muscles around your two little fingers :heh:

[Hiro Hayase]

Lets assume that humans can react fast enough to a swinging sword, I would think that a bigger surface area would allow for a better grip.

But to catch with only two fingers? Against a sword that size?

Sure I get that there are many crazy things in this series (and many more to come), but some things are way far off the reservations than others.

Trust me, more stranger things happen in the novel than that. Also, HSS Kinji is far stronger than the average human, his reflexes and body react much quicker. The JC staff are downplaying Kinji's abilities and they also condensed many other scenes, its similar to how they cramped the SS1 of To Aru Majutsu no Index into two episodes. They better be saving their budget for Toaru III.

Kinji and Kinichi(Kana) were able to create sonic-booms with a swing of their knife or scythe while in HSS. The one handed catch and Choutei battle were the highlights of volume 2. Kinich and Kinji created a bulletstorm against Sherlock Holmes with their rapid firing speeds.


P.S. I know that you read the light novel.

P.S.S. Btw isn't it already absurd that we have these small girls swinging swords and blasting guns like no tomorrow? Isn't it already absurd that we have choutei's (ability users)?

[Bonta Kun]

Small sized people can be deceivingly strong; But You don't exactly have many muscles around your two little fingers :heh:

See thats the thing, IRL a girl with a skinny frame like we see here would not be able to dual wield firearms or swords.
In anime small frame don't mean squat but for that same reason we can also say finger muscles don't mean anything cause it's simply anime.

Altho a 2 finger catch does push imagination more so than a a girl with a small frame that has super strength but doesn't mean it's not possible within the realm of anime.

It's just how it is, we throw logic at certain stuff but not at others that are also in the same boat.

More reason to bash the JC staff. Theres a little slip in animation when Jeanne is disguised as Shirayuki, she gets her katana taken from her, then is pushed back by Aria, she has the katana again in a following scene but then all the girls have a hammerspace tucked away somewhere:eyespin:

[Chiibi]

That's one way to do a cheerleading routine. Certainly in line with the theme of the school, but a bit on the wild side, dontcha think so? And poor Kinji, falling into the Tokyo Bay for a second time this arc. But I'm getting ahead of myself. There's an entire episode I've yet to cover.

Interesting how Shirayuki's name is in no way indicative of her massive firepower. And her massive fire power. Made for a nice thematic battle with Jeanne d'Arc there. Apparently Joan's been up to quite a lot.

Pop quiz time.

Joan of Arc:

A) Has a Butei descendent
B) Was a Puella Magi
C) Wears a mustache to play basketball
D) Was reincarnated as a high school girl to seal demons in paintings

Answer at your own leisure.



Hai haaaaai.

E. A AND D. :D

KKJ is one of my favorite series.;)

[Xero8420]

Meh. Mythbusters did the edge catching thing. IIRC, it didn't turn out well.

Even in the realm of ninjas.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2yxet0w.jpg

Speaking of the blade catching technique in ninjutsu, this "myth" actually do exist, and is real. It can really block a blade.

However, what Mythbusters did in that technique was inaccurate and discrepant, which their conclusion made had contradicted the proper method (which their method made was turned out went wrong). The real effective move to grip the blade is to "lock" both of the palms below first, instead of the fingers first (lower part of the palms instead of the upper part of the palms). Cause if close (as if it's clap) the fingers first, the blade will slipped the fingers and even the hands, you're a dead man. If "lock" both palms tightly, it will provide enough strength and pressure to grip the blade before it could reach onto the head, which prevent it from slipping.

Since I've been into ninjutsu, I know it better. And the Mythbusters were wrong about ninjutsu, since many of the "real", proper techniques were totally classified.