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Spoilers are here! :D As usual, credit goes to..... well, the same 2 dudes who've been providing us with this info all year so far:
-Chapter title is "General from the future nation". The ministory takes place at the Sakura kingdom (aka the former Drum kingdom), where Dalton and an army of lapahns (those giant rabbits) are checking out the newspaper.
-Luffy has Surume (the kraken) protect Shirahoshi. Meanwhile, Hody's officer Daruma digs some holes in the ground, which traps Franky's tank and bike. The "weak trio" are forced to evacuate the machines, and when they do, the two vehicles combine and transform into a super-warrior..... the Iron Pirates General Franky! It turns out that it was thanks to the Wapometal(!!!) that Franky was able to go so far with Vegapunk's research......
-Meanwhile, Nami reveals some new tricks with her Sorcery Clima-tact,and Usopp makes a bamboo javelin to fight with. Daruma is still digging holes around the plaza, but Chopper transforms into Horn Point and digs underground to intercept him. He reveals that out of his current seven forms, he can morph between six of them without the aid of rumble balls....!!!
-Hody threatens Surume to kill the princess or else he'll execute the kraken's brother. The sea monster is conflicted, but Luffy offers to protect his brother as well, and makes a beeline for Hody. Dosun and Ikaros are ready to intercept him, but they in turn are stopped by Zoro and Sanji, respectively. An angered Luffy then delivers another blow to the 'roid-addicted captain. It's at this time that Noah finally appears at the island. King Neptune notes that Noah's arc wasn't supposed to take off until the fated day arrives.....
Nice, we got some more sweet action! ;) Franky using Wapometal for his upgrades was a surprise for me (but at the same time it kinda wasn't since I knew for a long time that Wapol's metal would become important to the main story). Chopper vs. Daruma was expected, but I'm a bit surprised that Zoro's the one to take on Dosun (unless he switches opponents when Hyouzou wakes up or something). And I guess Sanji's the one to take on Ikaros after all, which means we'll be seeing some deep-fried squid soon. I'm still sorta thinking that Luffy vs. Hody will be put on hold due to Noah's appearance, though I guess it's possible that Jinbei could take his place in stopping the ark as well (I still feel that Shira's power will come into play here, though). And of course, Neptune's words about the ark were most interesting......
As for the ministory, as I suspected, Wapol's kingdom from last chapter is at a different location from the original Drum (which makes me even more confident that it's in the New World). Well, Alabasta should be coming along in the next chap, methinks.....
Nice stuff here, indeed. Can't wait for the full chap release! :)
Edit: A couple pics came out. Heh, Chopper's new Horn Point is the form we saw in the color spread a while back. Boy, does he look freaky! :p Still, nice to know that he (seemingly) mastered Life Return......
ronin myael
2011-08-24, 04:52
nice! i was just thinking about the spoilers. thanks!
Saw a panel for the chapter, luffy look awesome like a boss about to kick ass.
Edit just saw the mech man it awesome OP really has everything in it.
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 08:48
I'm actually more intrigued by the mini story, did they really stated "general"? I thought Dalton was the King of Sakura Kingdom. It almost sounds to me that my prediction that Wapol re-took Drum Island (or at least part of it) was true....
Edit: never mind, it was the chapter title, I thought that was mini story title...
Can wait the read what Neptune said about the arc. I got a feeling that the Arc might follow SH after this arc until they settle on a place (hence also fill prophecy of Shirahoshi)
Crimson Reaper
2011-08-24, 10:42
Sounds like another great chapter of the Strawhats taking charge. Quite interested in the whole Arc business. Something to do with Luffy 'destroying' Fishman Island? I'd laugh if at the end of all this Luffy's actions just get the name of the island changed for some reason thus getting rid of 'Fishman Island' or something similar.
Well, there's a Chinese scanlation out now (no English one yet, though). Man, that Franky mecha does look badass (and naturally, Luffy, Usopp and Chopper are awed beyond belief). The weak trio was cool, too (and of course, Usopp is looking as badass as ever while kicking ass :D). I also noticed that when Chopper was explaining his 7 forms, we only see 5 of them. So it looks like in addition to Chopzilla (which he probably managed to control during the skip), he has one other unrevealed form. Maybe he can transform into Jesus Point or something? ;)
And wow, it looked like Surume really was going to kill the princess after Hody threatened him (and the fact that she was in danger of being killed by the sea monster should put to rest those theories of her being secretly super-strong or whatever). Also gotta love how pissed Luffy is when he kicks Hody. Man, poor Jones..... it looks like almost nothing ever goes right for the fella. :p
Definitely interested in any further insight Neptune will give about Noah's ark, as well. Is it truly one of the ancient weapons, as has been long speculated....?
Rainbowman
2011-08-24, 12:14
Ministory: Dalton of Sakura Island. Any sign of Kureha? She is after all another of Chopper's caretakers.
Main Story: With Nami's new attacks, nostalgias will be angrily ranting about such a plothole. I wouldn't mind the new attacks as much as her new looks. Usopp and Chopper's new attacks are interesting. I still wish everyone would stop referring to Nami as weak. At any rate, how is anyone going to prevent the noah from crashing?
awesome chapter, with the group
showing off some of their new skills:
Roronoa Zoro: Hurricane swords-man
Sanji: Sky Walk{dis was real funny}/CP9
Franky showing that his time on the island was spent productively with the new bike and tank
for people like Nami, Usopp, Chopper.
Robin: Giant Legs, was really cool and weird at
the same time
Jinbei: Fishmen Karate and beating Hody's to
boot. Luffy: Turning Surume against Hody and
demolishing every one that was in the plaza.
Commander Chopper: Dats was cool, and cute in
the same vein.
So all in all, they killed off the fodder pirates with
their somewhat lower-level killing skills. Now that they have pretty much killed off the fodder, i
imagine they will pick it up a notch when they
start facing off the top tier pirates that Hody has
as his chief crew, and that is when we will see
the real skills, but i don't think the Straw Hat
crew will be pushed too much, that will most likely be explored upon when then fight
Admirals/Emperors/Shichibukai when they get to
the New World. For now they will use a small
percentage of their power. And we will finally
get to see what Decken's been doing with that
huge ship as well...
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 13:33
Just read the entire chapter in Chinese, pretty awesome stuff, unfortunately the remark on Arc is used to end the chapter so there isn't much other than Neptune freaking out by telling the prince that Noah is something that shouldn't be touched until the "end of the day", when the princes were commenting how Noah is just some useless remnant from ancient time.
I'm beginning to think Noah might be some version of Pluto or Neptune or might actually be one of those two just but was referred by Fish-people as Noah. If that's the case, it could provide fish-people the protection they need if they do end up as a travelling race after this arc.
BTW, General Franky is awesome. The Weak Trio was actually thrown out by Franky there can only be one person in it and it seem to imply Franky is the only one that can control it.
The best part about that part is while the male crews were drooling over it, Nami and Robin were taking turn giving "this is dumb" look with thought bubbles of "silence" in them.....
In addition of mentioning that he has mastered his 6 forms except for one he also mentioedn they all got different looks now with form of them in background. (though, Brain Point still looks the same) Got to say, the Horn Point in its entirety looks super cute, it might not makes to the figure due to balancing issue, but it's definitely plush material... IMO, it's cuter, than this normal form....
Nami's new attack, actually doesn't seem that impressive, I it does provide her with the necessarily quick punch to go with her already stellar speed and agility. And yes, Nami was never weak, she was only weak compare to super-human member of crew. Personally I'll even argue her to being stronger that not just Ussop but Robin and Chopper in their "base" ability.
Ussop's attack on the hand, looks bad-ass and pretty cool, though it starting to look like Ussop's attack to end up to be used as life-saver and plot devices as it seem that all his new attacks are basically shooting different types of seeds that acts like magical bullets.
The frame where Zoro and Sanji intercepts Dosun and Ikaros is very cool looking in the usually badass Oda angle.
What else...
Oh and apparently General Franky or Shogun Franky (I don't how it sounds in raw) was one of Vegapunk's unfulfilled dream as well and Wapometal has some kind of "shape retaining/remembering" ability that made General Franky possible.
And Hody actually lost track of Luffy before got kicked in the face. Things are not looking up for him, and I'm starting to pity the guy.
On one hand, I want to see Luffy kicking ass and donimate, on another hand I was hoping Hody will put up more fight and it start to feel a bit (just a tiny little bit though) anti-climatic.
P.S. Even though he's no in the chapter, I'm starting to get a feeling that our forgotten man Calibou is going to end up using his ability in preventing Noah crushing down on everyone....
The chapter is funny.
And I am looking forward to Chooper's other transformations
ZeroForever
2011-08-24, 15:02
anyone else see the chains on the bottom on Noa on the last page?
Personal guess is that it's the tug boat effect on the entire island so in throwing it at Weakoshi I'm guessing it'll result in pulling the whole island along with it.
Fipskuul
2011-08-24, 15:11
After reading the chapter, I would like to see Surume's, hopefully little, brother. Surume was too big to join the journey, but if his brother is small enough, why not?
And chopper's new transformation shows his age much better. It looks more like the shounen hero type. At least, with this form, Oda made up for his mistake of not applying the same aging effect on chopper's original cotton candy lover form.
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 15:24
After reading the chapter, I would like to see Surume's, hopefully little, brother. Surume was too big to join the journey, but if his brother is small enough, why not?
And chopper's new transformation shows his age much better. It looks more like the shounen hero type. At least, with this form, Oda made up for his mistake of not applying the same aging effect on chopper's original cotton candy lover form.
But he did though, Nami noted that Chopper grew bigger in his reindeer form (original form) when she met him post skip.
The regular chibi form is more or less his Brain Point form, so it doesn't really matter if it ages or not. But really, when is the last time you saw a mascot character that really ages in manga..:heh:
SilverSyko
2011-08-24, 15:42
Ah the Franky Shogun mech was awesome! I guess Nami and Robin didn't find it that cool though. :heh:
Nami's "Sorcery Clima-Tact" eh? Harnessing the "magic" of the weather I assume? :p
Usopp has a very environmentally friendly set of attacks now. Beating up bad-guys while making the world a greener place at the same time.~
I found it amusing that Luffy made the exact same connection I did when I saw Chopper's new horn point. It DOES look like a stag beetle. :D
Does this mean Kung-Fu point is an improved version of one of his previous points?
Anywho, glad to see a new ability from all of the Strawhats now.~
The chapter is funny.
And I am looking forward to Chooper's other transformations
Technically, we saw most of them already in one panel (though if you're talking about abilities, then I do agree). Personally, I'm rather interested in seeing more of Kung Fu Point, myself. :)
Actually, this talk about Chopper's transformations and him most likely being able to use Life Return takes me back to what I was talking about in the last chapter thread about the possibility of future human characters/enemies being able to use unique abilities such as this and merman karate. It sure would be cool to see someone in the NW who neither has a DF nor any sort of Haki mastery, yet still be considered a major threat....
And going back to the current conflict, I sure hope that Hody pulls out some more tricks from under his sleeve soon, because I doubt that spamming those water bullets will do him much good anymore at this point. :p
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 15:48
Or monster point wasn't counted among his 7 transformation and he simply never used Kung-Fu Point pre-skip....
@Fipskuul Just checked his old horn point, if anything, his old Horn Point looks MUCH older than his current Horn Point as it was based on his reindeer form instead hybrid form.
Technically, we saw most of them already in one panel (though if you're talking about abilities, then I do agree). Personally, I'm rather interested in seeing more of Kung Fu Point, myself. :)
Yeah, and I remember that we saw him use the ones in the background before. Though, I am excited to see their full abilities.
I think there's 1 or 2 more that wasn't shown (Heavy, Huge Monster, ?) and I wonder what improvements they also have.
SilverSyko
2011-08-24, 15:57
Or monster point wasn't counted among his 7 transformation and he simply never used Kung-Fu Point pre-skip....
Chopper did have 7 points minus Monster Point before the skip though.
Run Point
Brain Point
Heavy Point
Arm Point
Jump Point
Horn Point
Guard Point
This is why I'm led to believe Kung-Fu point is like his new Arm Point.
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 16:23
Argh, I forgot the Run Point...
But the old Arm Point was really visible focused on upper body strength and Kung-Fu Point doesn't really look that strong in the arm and it faster than old Arm Point.
Maybe Kung-Fu point isn't consider as a transformation by it's own but rather as fusion of Points.
Randrak42
2011-08-24, 16:28
Or maybe it just replaced Arm Point as the most combat focused point.
Can you imagine how hard Luffy would have raped Hodi if the latter had never received that power-up (which is looking pretty useless right now)? He can't even see him move, much less react.
Chopper was awesome in this chapter. I never thought I'd hear a line like "I'm a self-conceited monster" out of his mouth. Did he take lesson in badassery from Zoro?
Franky is the same ever. Giving his robot a sword even though he himself has no idea how to use one, the Franky canon not being a canon attack at all, etc... :heh:
I'm so glad he got his old hairstyle back. I hope he'll keep it permanently this time. I hate bald Franky, he just looks wrong. It's the same as Luffy without strawhat, Sanji without his eyebrow, Ussop without his nose or Nami without her tits.
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 16:39
I don't know, I like bald Franky, but what I really want to see is Afro Franky, never forget the Brother Soul!!!!!!
paradox13
2011-08-24, 16:40
Wapometal lol
Seems like Wapol is indirectly helping Strawhats out.
What a friendly fellow.
Franky is the same ever. Giving his robot a sword even though he himself has no idea how to use one, the Franky canon not being a canon attack at all, etc... :heh:
I'm so glad he got his old hairstyle back. I hope he'll keep it permanently this time. I hate bald Franky, he just looks wrong. It's the same as Luffy without strawhat, Sanji without his eyebrow, Ussop without his nose or Nami without her tits.
Nami without tits? That's... inconceivable, mon. That just kills her, right there.
Anyway, yeah I rollled over when Franky unleashed the cannon.
Pffft, don't listen to Kanon. Bald Franky's awesome. ;) Still, I do find myself wishing that he'd have grown a mustache during the skip.....
Franky with a mustache? That would complete the shipwright image, IMO.
Talking about mustache, I wonder how people would react if Saji got that swirl thin mustache
Mustache MADE OF METAL, BOLTED ONTO HIS FACE.
/win
Red Shoulder
2011-08-24, 17:50
Quite entertaining, I must say.
White beard already had awesome mustasche. Dont need another chararacter
ashesatdusk
2011-08-24, 19:09
Chapters out. I'm wondering if Noah's ark has some relation to the ancient weapons. It obviously isn't one, but its several hundred years old. Kings neptune's reaction is quite scary...
Mustache MADE OF WAPOMETAL, BOLTED ONTO HIS FACE.
/win
Fixed. :D
White beard already had awesome mustasche. Dont need another chararacter
But don't you see that's exactly why we need another character with an awesome 'stache? Gotta keep the legacy alive, man! ;)
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 19:26
I seem to remember somewhere stated that WB's 'stache can be used as weapon, was it in SBS? Anyway, I would love to that in action though...
^No, that was just a joke about his mustache being shaped like a boomerang.
....Actually, speaking of that SBS question, Oda had revealed that Newgate had a dog named Stefan who also had the same epic 'stache. Maybe we'll see the pooch pop up at some point in the NW, eh? ;)
Eh,I'm kind of tired of everyone 1hkoing Hody when he keeps getting up the following chapter,good chapter nonetheless,I wonder if Chopper's monster point improved as well ;o
ronin myael
2011-08-24, 21:57
that franky docking reminded me somewhat of voltes 5 and daimos. don't know why. lol
enjoyable chapter once again. oda never fails to entertain me.
Chopper did have 7 points minus Monster Point before the skip though.
Run Point
Brain Point
Heavy Point
Arm Point
Jump Point
Horn Point
Guard Point
This is why I'm led to believe Kung-Fu point is like his new Arm Point.
I thought heavy point was part of his 3 normal transformations he didn't need rumble for.
Undertaker
2011-08-24, 23:27
yep, the 3 normal transformation are Heavy Point (Human form), Walking Point (Reindeer/Original Form) and Brain Point (Hybrid Form).
All three were counted toward his 7 though.
The_Three_Kings
2011-08-25, 00:48
Chopper did have 7 points minus Monster Point before the skip though.
Run Point
Brain Point
Heavy Point
Arm Point
Jump Point
Horn Point
Guard Point
This is why I'm led to believe Kung-Fu point is like his new Arm Point.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing that Kung-fu point is the new Arm point. That means he still needs Rumble Ball for Jumping Point. But after looking at Kung-Fu point and Arm point and comparing them, they look very different and if he renamed Arm point, how come he didn't rename Horn point as well?
I was thinking he could've possibly just developed his Arm point a lot and it changed so much he decided to rename it. Who knows.
I lol at Franky's pun :D
And Chopper is being a badass on this chapter, "I'm a self-conceited "monster"":D
Nami's new Sorcery Climatact, even looks not as awesome as other crew's 'upgrade' but it's quite cool for me. It's only a part of the whole tact but it can knock out a merman:D
great chapter as always. now i can see mecha entering onepiece world.
well although it just like bigger version franky for me. :D
at other side, why hody look so weak this chapter? getting kickass 2 time without cannot fight back? even his water shot can negated by JInbei. I just hope luffy fighting hody will not be boring..
and Noah arc, where it say that it was ancient weapon? it does not look like "weapon" for me..
that franky docking reminded me somewhat of voltes 5 and daimos. don't know why. lol
Nah it's clearly a parody of Tetsujin 28 (literally Iron Man 28, known in US as Gigantor)
The face, the 38th BF number on the side, etc.
Yeah, i totally couldn't help but think Tetsujin 28, which made this chapter extra special. Brilliant homage Oda.
Robin's stare had me laughing so much :p. Just like her classic reaction to the past docking scene.
Undertaker
2011-08-25, 04:43
great chapter as always. now i can see mecha entering onepiece world.
well although it just like bigger version franky for me. :D
at other side, why hody look so weak this chapter? getting kickass 2 time without cannot fight back? even his water shot can negated by JInbei. I just hope luffy fighting hody will not be boring..
and Noah arc, where it say that it was ancient weapon? it does not look like "weapon" for me..
It's just a little theory I'm kicking around with based on Neptune over-reaction, Prince's remark about it being the from ancient time, fish people used to live on land before the void century, Robin finding more ancient text, and that it seems that after this arc fish people is going to be wondering around in Noah it'll make sense if Noah is (or has) some sort of ancient weapon as well.....
Yeah, i totally couldn't help but think Tetsujin 28, which made this chapter extra special. Brilliant homage Oda.
Robin's stare had me laughing so much :p. Just like her classic reaction to the past docking scene.
Both Robin and Nami's emotionless face cracked me up.
But I got to say though, while Nami was expected, I was a bit surprise by Robin's reaction. Sure, she had same reaction toward "docking" before, but that was understandable. I thought she would be smiling a bit about General Franky this time, after all she did seem to understand Afro Luffy and Brother Soul...
Speaking of Afro Luffy, I was a bit disappointed that Sanji wasn't shown to bask in the glory that is General Franky
woottt... now Strawhat have a megazord in their ship... xD
Nami and Chopper are awesome.... the fishmen really are no matched with them
ronin myael
2011-08-25, 06:22
woottt... now Strawhat have a megazord in their ship... xD
that's it! i think that's why franky's new mecha look reminded me of voltes 5, he also has a sword like the laser sword in voltes 5. am i making sense? probably not. lol
Hisoka??
2011-08-25, 07:23
Talking about new abilities, any one else betting on a giant Robin form? Since she has already formed giant legs, forming a whole body seems very plausible.
Whole body you say? I would suspect it would have knocked out more fishmen than Luffy's haki blast. :D Note, she can't create clothes as far as I know...
Hisoka??
2011-08-25, 09:22
Whole body you say? I would suspect it would have knocked out more fishmen than Luffy's haki blast. :D Note, she can't create clothes as far as I know...
That was one of the reasons for hoping it happens :D
Whole body you say? I would suspect it would have knocked out more fishmen than Luffy's haki blast. :D Note, she can't create clothes as far as I know...
Actually, if her full-body clone from a few chapters back is any indication, she's definitely capable of cloning her clothing, as well (true, her clone wasn't super-sized, but still.....).
yakumo-chan
2011-08-25, 10:30
at other side, why hody look so weak this chapter? getting kickass 2 time without cannot fight back? even his water shot can negated by JInbei. I just hope luffy fighting hody will not be boring..
I think this arc is saying that "If the straw hats didnt trained 2 years, they will be having a hard time fighting Hody's crew, but they could still win though"
K. Shiruto
2011-08-25, 10:37
Maybe the new homeland of the melfork will be Mariejois? Since we know that sooner or later the WG will be destroyed...
It's just a thought.
Actually, if her full-body clone from a few chapters back is any indication, she's definitely capable of cloning her clothing, as well (true, her clone wasn't super-sized, but still.....).
Huh? I must have skimmed through too quickly if I have missed that...
Blackbeard D. Kuma
2011-08-25, 11:41
Noah is massive, so it might take a collaborative effort to stop it. Hope to see Zeo and Hyouzou in action next chapter.
james0246
2011-08-25, 11:57
Noah is massive, so it might take a collaborative effort to stop it.
Honestly, only really Luffy (and maybe Robin, or Shira if she can use the Sea Kings) could potentially halt the mass (and I find that a bit of a stretch (pun intended), everyone elses attacks/abilities would simply destroy the vessel (which the King seems to think that would be a bad thing).
Addmittedly, since the ship is coming for Shira, it would make more sense for Shira to simply leave the area, with the ship following behind...
K. Shiruto
2011-08-25, 12:02
Addmittedly, since the ship is coming for Shira, it would make more sense for Shira to simply leave the area, with the ship following behind...
That would contradict what Luffy told her before:http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1251/247f62047f379bc4d5b3569.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/247f62047f379bc4d5b3569.jpg/)
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However, if that were to happen and Shira went outside the island for the sake of protecting it, Luffy would be having a hard time protecting her, because water is his weakness.
The Small One
2011-08-25, 12:34
Did I miss something?
What exactly is so special about this Wapometal? Was this ever mentioned? Isn't this just a normal metal?
K. Shiruto
2011-08-25, 12:43
Did I miss something?
What exactly is so special about this Wapometal? Was this ever mentioned? Isn't this just a normal metal?
Read Wapol's ministory.
Huh? I must have skimmed through too quickly if I have missed that...
It was when Robin first met up with Luffy and the others in the sea forest.
At first she had appeared between Luffy, jinbei and Sanji, but then she vanished just as the three crashed into eachother and reappeared walking out from the trees. As such we have assumed that the "Robin" that was standing between Luffy, jinbei and Sanji was in fact a full body clone.
The_Three_Kings
2011-08-25, 15:31
It was when Robin first met up with Luffy and the others in the sea forest.
At first she had appeared between Luffy, jinbei and Sanji, but then she vanished just as the three crashed into eachother and reappeared walking out from the trees. As such we have assumed that the "Robin" that was standing between Luffy, jinbei and Sanji was in fact a full body clone.
Either its a full body clone, or she can make her body reappear in different places, kind've like a teleportation technique.
It was when Robin first met up with Luffy and the others in the sea forest.
At first she had appeared between Luffy, jinbei and Sanji, but then she vanished just as the three crashed into eachother and reappeared walking out from the trees. As such we have assumed that the "Robin" that was standing between Luffy, jinbei and Sanji was in fact a full body clone.
And not to mention that prior to that, there was the color spread that also hinted at Robin being capable of creating (fully clothed) clones of herself.
Hope to see Zeo and Hyouzou in action next chapter.
Yep! :) And speaking of that..... if Dosun really does turn out to be Zoro's opponent, then could this mean that Brooke will be the one to take on Hyouzou after all? I certainly wouldn't complain if that turns out to be true (the Soul King's been lacking in boss battles after all), but I still wonder if he's really capable of taking on a guy who could easily counter Gear 2 Luffy......
james0246
2011-08-25, 16:48
Yep! :) And speaking of that..... if Dosun really does turn out to be Zoro's opponent, then could this mean that Brooke will be the one to take on Hyouzou after all? I certainly wouldn't complain if that turns out to be true (the Soul King's been lacking in boss battles after all), but I still wonder if he's really capable of taking on a guy who could easily counter Gear 2 Luffy......
I don't know if I agree with the "easily" assessment, but I would love to see Brook battle Hyouzou (I do not recall if I was the one who initially speculated on such an encounter or if it was another forum member)...but it might be too easy for Brook. Specifically, Brook has no need to worry about poisons (some can corrode, so there is still a chance of wear and tear), which effectively limits Hyouzou's power by an untold magnitude.
That being said, who else thinks Brook's major power-up will be the fact that he could remove or control his hair? One of Brook's major disadvantages against Ryuma was the fact that the zombie could target Brook's hair (it is a glaring weakness), and such a disadvantage would be obvious to all sword users. Consequently, I wouldn't be too surprised if Brook found some way of protecting his hair....
K. Shiruto
2011-08-25, 18:09
In the colorspread featuring the strawhats new powers, wasn't Brook featured disjointing his body articulations? I dare say, this would work efficiently in dodging the enemy attacks.
Suppose someone aims for his arm, and he suddenly disjoints the arm from the forearm, resulting in the enemy missing and Brook having a few valuable seconds to counterattack.
grey_1960
2011-08-25, 18:22
Chapter 636
That was not a bad Chapter. That is kinda cool that Chopper no longer needs the rumble ball for at least six of his formations. That makes him stronger now that he is less dependent on the Rumble Balls. I wonder if he can control that monster form now?
Noah Legendary Ship
I guess this is all up to Shirahoshi now. I would say the Straw Hats can just destroy it but the King Neptune had other purpose for it. I am guessing Noah Ship was going to be the transportation for the reverie.
Noah Legendary Ship
I guess this is all up to Shirahoshi now. I would say the Straw Hats can just destroy it but the King Neptune had other purpose for it. I am guessing Noah Ship was going to be the transportation for the reverie.
I doubt its something as simple as a fancy boat to ride to an important meeting.
From the way the king speaks its more like this ship is more likely the center of some great prophecy. Something like say, the prophesied day that fishman island is destroyed and the fishpeople need a ship big enough to support their whole population so that they might escape to safety. heh.
It's just a little theory I'm kicking around with based on Neptune over-reaction, Prince's remark about it being the from ancient time, fish people used to live on land before the void century, Robin finding more ancient text, and that it seems that after this arc fish people is going to be wondering around in Noah it'll make sense if Noah is (or has) some sort of ancient weapon as well.....
its possible. with Luffy destroying Fishman Island, Fishman people need some place for their new island.
In the colorspread featuring the strawhats new powers, wasn't Brook featured disjointing his body articulations? I dare say, this would work efficiently in dodging the enemy attacks.
Suppose someone aims for his arm, and he suddenly disjoints the arm from the forearm, resulting in the enemy missing and Brook having a few valuable seconds to counterattack.
where the colorspread that featuring strawhat new power? I didn't find it.
grey_1960
2011-08-25, 20:18
I doubt its something as simple as a fancy boat to ride to an important meeting.
From the way the king speaks its more like this ship is more likely the center of some great prophecy. Something like say, the prophesied day that fishman island is destroyed and the fishpeople need a ship big enough to support their whole population so that they might escape to safety. heh.
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Isn't that what the reverie is? Or is the Reverie something else. Sounded like the Reverie from this arch was the great migration. At least that is what I thought is was when the prince were talking about it during the mother's funeral. I could be wrong. I did not know it had another meaning.
In the colorspread featuring the strawhats new powers, wasn't Brook featured disjointing his body articulations? I dare say, this would work efficiently in dodging the enemy attacks.
Suppose someone aims for his arm, and he suddenly disjoints the arm from the forearm, resulting in the enemy missing and Brook having a few valuable seconds to counterattack.
That's Buggy's role ;o
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Isn't that what the reverie is? Or is the Reverie something else. Sounded like the Reverie from this arch was the great migration. At least that is what I thought is was when the prince were talking about it during the mother's funeral. I could be wrong. I did not know it had another meaning.
No, the Reverie in this case is the big meeting between all of the world's leaders in Mariejoa. In fact, we actually saw the previous Reverie in Chopper's flashback where they were discussing Dragon (and Wapol was being an asshole towards Vivi).
That's Buggy's role ;o
True, but I wouldn't put it past Brooke to split himself apart now, either. But I sorta figured his big new power-up was supposed to be the whole astral projection thing (along with possibly more advanced musical techniques similar to the ones we saw Scratchmen Apoo use). And while I do suppose it's true that poisons probably won't have much effect on him, I still wonder if he would be a decent match for the alcoholic assassin (because I still rather doubt that he became as powerful as the zombie Ryuuma over the course of the skip)......
Undertaker
2011-08-25, 21:47
In addition to that little theory I have, I'm also getting the feeling that Caribou will be the one that soft-lands Noah due to his DF....
I don't know if I agree with the "easily" assessment, but I would love to see Brook battle Hyouzou (I do not recall if I was the one who initially speculated on such an encounter or if it was another forum member)...but it might be too easy for Brook. Specifically, Brook has no need to worry about poisons (some can corrode, so there is still a chance of wear and tear), which effectively limits Hyouzou's power by an untold magnitude.
That being said, who else thinks Brook's major power-up will be the fact that he could remove or control his hair? One of Brook's major disadvantages against Ryuma was the fact that the zombie could target Brook's hair (it is a glaring weakness), and such a disadvantage would be obvious to all sword users. Consequently, I wouldn't be too surprised if Brook found some way of protecting his hair....
BOOM!
I also think it would be interesting if Brooke took on the mercenary swordsman. I mean I don't think a skeleton can get poisoned, so he doesn't have to worry about that :heh:
That's actually a great idea, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet. We've been so hung up on Zoro fighting the kickass cool swordsmen that we completely forgot about the other swordsmen on the crew.
Although it doesn't really matter who mentioned it first, especially since we still don't know if they will fight each other. :heh:
With that being said, I think Brooke can take him :)
Hell, Music might just be the perfect counter for a drunk fishman :heh:.
I LOVE Chopper's horn point character design, and now seeing Franky's new robot, I do believe your speculation (I think it was you) on a match up with Franky vs San Juan Wolf would be pretty sweet.
Hisoka??
2011-08-26, 03:02
Honestly, only really Luffy (and maybe Robin, or Shira if she can use the Sea Kings) could potentially halt the mass (and I find that a bit of a stretch (pun intended), everyone elses attacks/abilities would simply destroy the vessel (which the King seems to think that would be a bad thing).
Addmittedly, since the ship is coming for Shira, it would make more sense for Shira to simply leave the area, with the ship following behind...
Actually with the mecha form, Franky could possibly stop the ship. Sanji could kick it away and Zoro could probably easily slice it in half (ok that would be destroying it).
If anything I sort of expect Luffy to try a bazooka to stop the ship and get his hands stuck in the ship instead :heh:
Going back to the ministory again..... considering how we saw Wapol gradually go from living in poverty to becoming a successful toy/metal manufacturer who was given a new kingdom to rule, this really makes me wonder what will become of Spandam? I remember back when the EL arc was running I had figured that his blunders would get him demoted to janitorial work or something like that, but now I honestly wouldn't put it past Oda to make him the chief of the newly established CP10! Heck, his old man Spandine might even become the sixth Elder Star...... :p
Anyways, we should be seeing Alabasta next chapter (unless we get a separate update for Dr. Kureha, who was curiously absent from the current chapter's splash). I sure hope that means we'll be seeing Gedatsu make an appearance, as well! :)
game2007
2011-08-27, 02:59
BOOM!
Although it doesn't really matter who mentioned it first, especially since we still don't know if they will fight each other. :heh:
With that being said, I think Brooke can take him :)
Hell, Music might just be the perfect counter for a drunk fishman :heh:.
I LOVE Chopper's horn point character design, and now seeing Franky's new robot, I do believe your speculation (I think it was you) on a match up with Franky vs San Juan Wolf would be pretty sweet.
Just keep in mind that San Juan Wolf is SEVERAL TIMES bigger than the robot. Franky will have to build a bigger robot if he wants to fight him.
ronin myael
2011-08-27, 07:13
i'm actually more intrigued about the ship itself than the villains of this arc. i'm still hoping that they could pose a bigger threat to the straw hats but as they are now i highly doubt it. what is noah anyway? why is it so legendary?
BaKaBaKaOtaKu
2011-08-28, 22:49
Talking about new abilities, any one else betting on a giant Robin form? Since she has already formed giant legs, forming a whole body seems very plausible.
me wants that! lol. i'd prefer the naked clone if oda may please. XDD then i could just die in bliss. XD
Undertaker
2011-08-29, 03:40
Actually with the mecha form, Franky could possibly stop the ship. Sanji could kick it away and Zoro could probably easily slice it in half (ok that would be destroying it).
If anything I sort of expect Luffy to try a bazooka to stop the ship and get his hands stuck in the ship instead :heh:
As awesome as General Franky is, I don't think he can stop Noah from fulling. hell, I don't even think the combine strength of the SH can stop the fall. You seems to forgot about the size of that thing, it not just some huge ship several time bigger than a battleship. The thing is half the size of the island itself that can carry millions. The only reason Decken can move it was because of his DF.
As strong as Luffy can co, I don't see them stopping that thing, I don't even think that Admirals (other and Aoikiji) can stop its fall (Keep others around them safe is another story). Only one I can see would be Croc if he sand-ify the ground or Aoikiji freeze the thing mid-air.
Maybe if Robin can grow her Arms the size of the island, then that would possible.
Actually, forget the arm, if she can grow her breasts into half the size of island, that would probably work too... :D
i'm actually more intrigued about the ship itself than the villains of this arc. i'm still hoping that they could pose a bigger threat to the straw hats but as they are now i highly doubt it. what is noah anyway? why is it so legendary?
Noah is a reference from the Bible. Just like Sodom and Gomorrah (Franky Family's King Bulls) were. Oda's not Christian but he seem to like pulling stories from Bibles and other myths as inspirations.
If you don't know the Bibile story. Basically, the God was angry at the sins of human and he decided to flood the world in order to start anew. But before he did so, he instructed Noah, the only righteous man in the eye of God to construct an Arc. Noah build the Arc despite the ridicules from others, he than collected a pair (male&female) of every species, plants, along with whatever human he can save into the Arc and escaped the fated flood. (which most Bible historian believes to be referring to the Ice Age)
The parallel here is that Noah is HUGE, half the size of the Fishermen Island. It saved Fishmen/Merfolk once before the void Century and it now seems to be prophesied to save them again when the end is coming....
ronin myael
2011-08-29, 04:27
Noah is a reference from the Bible. Just like Sodom and Gomorrah (Franky Family's King Bulls) were. Oda's not Christian but he seem to like pulling stories from Bibles and other myths as inspirations.
If you don't know the Bibile story. Basically, the God was angry at the sins of human and he decided to flood the world in order to start anew. But before he did so, he instructed Noah, the only righteous man in the eye of God to construct an Arc. Noah build the Arc despite the ridicules from others, he than collected a pair (male&female) of every species, plants, along with whatever human he can save into the Arc and escaped the fated flood. (which most Bible historian believes to be referring to the Ice Age)
The parallel here is that Noah is HUGE, half the size of the Fishermen Island. It saved Fishmen/Merfolk once before the void Century and it now seems to be prophesied to save them again when the end is coming....
yeah, i know about the noah's ark. i meant the noah in one piece, what is it? that's what i like to know.
Hisoka??
2011-08-29, 06:27
As awesome as General Franky is, I don't think he can stop Noah from fulling. hell, I don't even think the combine strength of the SH can stop the fall. You seems to forgot about the size of that thing, it not just some huge ship several time bigger than a battleship. The thing is half the size of the island itself that can carry millions. The only reason Decken can move it was because of his DF.
As strong as Luffy can co, I don't see them stopping that thing, I don't even think that Admirals (other and Aoikiji) can stop its fall (Keep others around them safe is another story). Only one I can see would be Croc if he sand-ify the ground or Aoikiji freeze the thing mid-air.
Maybe if Robin can grow her Arms the size of the island, then that would possible.
Actually, forget the arm, if she can grow her breasts into half the size of island, that would probably work too... :D
Hmmz, not too sure about the size of the ship. I don't recall that it is half the size of the island, but I could be wrong. I'm assuming that it is just a very huge ship (with some other features I guess).
1 very much doubt that the ship needed to really carry millions and even if so, people can be packed tightly. Hell, I don't even know why they need the ship given that they are fish... But anyway, in almost every migration story, the initial number of people is always much smaller than the current number.
Randrak42
2011-08-29, 07:08
It saved Fishmen/Merfolk once before the void Century and it now seems to be prophesied to save them again when the end is coming....
Wow...where was this? I don't remember any reference to Noah having saved the Fishpeeps before.
But yes, I remember it being stated that it IS half the size of Fishman Island.
ZeroForever
2011-08-29, 08:03
decken mentions the size of the ship, if you want a size retrospec you can view it after decken initially throws it and the sea giant is running away, he's a midget next to it.
Do note that the sea giant is about the size of the kraken and they are both bigger then the respective land giants.
Butagami
2011-08-30, 04:59
There was just so much awesome in this chapter, my eyes still tear up thinking about it. Franky having a combining mecha (I actually thought Franky had won OP, until I saw the others, made me doubt again), the "weak"-trio taking many levels of badass, random pirates commenting on how the SH's all seem eager to join the fight, Luffy doing the "Slow Walk Of He Who Is Badass" (SWOHWIS), trusting Sanji and Zoro to take the fodder out for him, and finally: Epic FaceKick Of Rage.
Can't wait til the next chapter!
Undertaker
2011-08-31, 01:54
Hmmz, not too sure about the size of the ship. I don't recall that it is half the size of the island, but I could be wrong. I'm assuming that it is just a very huge ship (with some other features I guess).
1 very much doubt that the ship needed to really carry millions and even if so, people can be packed tightly. Hell, I don't even know why they need the ship given that they are fish... But anyway, in almost every migration story, the initial number of people is always much smaller than the current number.
Wow...where was this? I don't remember any reference to Noah having saved the Fishpeeps before.
But yes, I remember it being stated that it IS half the size of Fishman Island.
My bad, they only mentioned that it was built in the ancient time by the people on Fishman Island. For some reason I kept thinking that it was build "before" they arrived to the island, hence Noah was used.
But it did the chapter did state that it's half the size of Fishman Island, and since Otohime stated that there are 5 million living on island, it's safe to assume that Noah can at least fit a million in there...
Even if it's not actually half the size of island, if you look at frames with Noah in it and compare with the surrounding, it should at least be comparable to a city as sea kings and buildings all look minuscule compare to it and it is the farthermost object drawn in those pictures.
Anyway, I re-read past few chapters and two thing hits me. First, on mini-story with Crocus and Laboon, there was a guy sitting across and drank with Crocus with his back showing. I wonder who that is, perhaps another of Roger's crew? (the potential Bronze guy?)
Second, it looks like Oda already shown us the one transformation that Chopper still needs rumble ball for is Guard Point. While fighting Kraken, Chopper was shown using rumble ball before Guard Point.
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