[Game] [PS3] Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru ~Nocturne of Truth and Illusions~

[Joly]

http://s12.postimage.org/geuze4zhl/ENJ2_01.png

Interesting hat...

[manologod2]

WOw . she looks pretty. where did you get this vid? i wanna see too.


Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VQnewFfcfg

From here onwards are taught parts of EP5, EP8 and EP6.

First Erika punishing Cornelia, next the part of choosing a piece of cake and finally the wedding.

[GAtakito]

She does look like a black widow :twitch:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2r3jbkm.jpg

BTW where can I buy the limited edition ? I want that book ;)

[haguruma]

She does look like a black widow :twitch:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2r3jbkm.jpg

BTW where can I buy the limited edition ? I want that book ;)
What I'd like to know even more is, where is that going to appear?
It's not even Kotobuki Yukari...it's Ange Beato.
Is she going to be the new sprite during the meta parts? Or are we going to get something entirely new?!

[LyricalAura]

Someone on /jp/ is reporting that Nocturne has an expanded Trick ending and more details about Tohya's life. Can anyone confirm that?

[Azrail]

Anyone know what songs got altered/added this time around?

[Sterling01]

Someone on /jp/ is reporting that Nocturne has an expanded Trick ending and more details about Tohya's life. Can anyone confirm that?

I haven't started playing but the artbook does have a "new" character/sprite that isn't based on any of Ryukishi's.

[GAtakito]

No matters how many times I watch this video it always makes me cry :')

"EP 8 Ending"

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By the way, does anyone have the CGs ??? I want them so badly :D

[battle22]

Are there more videos?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Somone's uploaded that part?!
Better brace myself before watching.

[manologod2]

Well, my copy arrive today and I have a present for everyone :3

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[RedKey]

Well, my copy arrive today and I have a present for everyone :3

rfYepEQt7hs

I thought my reaction was going to be 'AW YEAH YOU'RE SO FRICKIN BADASS!!'
But my first thought was actually 'HNNNGG DLANOR Y U SO CUTE'
:eyespin:

[Auria]

Well, my copy arrive today and I have a present for everyone :3

rfYepEQt7hs
Thank you for the video.

To be honest despite being a huuge fan of Miyuki Sawashiro I was not sure if she's THE choice for Dlanor and had problems imagining her saying these lines.. doubts completely blown away.. my, that was a great performance, makes me like Dlanor ten times more XD

[battle22]

That was all? is this all you can do dlanor? im sooo dissapointed... :(
even gohda can scream better than her

[maximilianjenus]

again, she is not supossed to be screaming.

[Keriaku]

That was actually reallly creepy. Well done.

[Kishin]

Omg time to wait in anticipation for the cg set..... If rondo was any clue, nocturnes cg isnt coming out for a while >.<

[battle22]

Wait .. i didnt like it at first but now... I LOVED IT> it's AWESOME

[Oblivion]

About the Limted Edition, will it ever be in stock again or is it a release only thing? My friend wants to get a copy.

[Alcindor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6F_4z-WG2k&feature

Erika voice actor just loss some points there :eyebrow:

[Joly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6F_4z-WG2k&feature

Erika voice actor just loss some points there :eyebrow:

I don't know what you're talking about. I love it. :P

[battle22]

Me too. i love erikas and dlanors voice actors

[immblueversion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6F_4z-WG2k&feature

Erika voice actor just loss some points there :eyebrow:

Lose points for what? Being Erika?

[Alcindor]

My expectations was overly high for this scene since its one of my favourites. Erika voice seem a lil too childish than i picture it

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Me too. i love erikas and dlanors voice actors
Me three.
It's a extremely memorable performance, what Ohara did for Beatrice,
I feel Kuwatani did for Erika. Sure, she's a lot different than I imagined Erika would sound, but it's still a great performance.

[Eriko 556]

Me three.
It's a extremely memorable performance, what Ohara did for Beatrice,
I feel Kuwatani did for Erika. Sure, she's a lot different than I imagined Erika would sound, but it's still a great performance.
Me three.
It's a extremely memorable performance, what Ohara did for Beatrice,
I feel Kuwatani did for Erika. Sure, she's a lot different than I imagined Erika would sound, but it's still a great performance.

Agreed. It seems Kuwatani put a lot of effort into her voice for become Erika.
However, it's missing something. Like Alcindor said: "Erika voice seem a lil too childish than i picture it".

In Ougon CROSS, I noticed that Erika's voice is different (I THINK it's different. If it's not, I'm becoming deaf :heh: ). I prefer a lot this voice than PS3 Erika's voice.

[fuff]

any cg out yet?

[CrimsonMoonMist]

In Ougon CROSS, I noticed that Erika's voice is different (I THINK it's different. If it's not, I'm becoming deaf :heh: ). I prefer a lot this voice than PS3 Erika's voice.
I'm certain it's the same.
She's just particulary enjoying hamming it up since it's a fighting game I imagine.

[Captain Bluebeard]

Well, always pictured Erika's voice a little more playful and sophisticated...
But that sounds like a pig. It was a good performacne though, just not my cup of tea for Erika.
Also, completely hate Dlanor's voice, not badass enough...

[Kirroha]

Erika's voice is downright amazing. I like how she keeps fluctuating between really high and really low because of how downright hysterically joyous she's being. And to think that she starts off so dignified and calm... It's amazing.

[battle22]

MINNAAA!!!!!!!! BERN VS LAMDA and BEATO VS ERIKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lehyc7JSg

[Azule]

MINNAAA!!!!!!!! BERN VS LAMDA and BEATO VS ERIKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lehyc7JSg

Haha, brilliant! Lambda and Bern both went way above my expectations.
I so need Ougon Cross patching so I can use Beato/Lambda against Burn/Erika...

[Captain Bluebeard]

MINNAAA!!!!!!!! BERN VS LAMDA and BEATO VS ERIKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lehyc7JSg

Wow! Now this makes my impression of Erika's voice actor go up A LOT!

P.S: Gotta love Yukari Tamura.

[Used Can]

So, I'm wondering, what did Yasu sound like in the PS3 game?

[Captain Bluebeard]

I think there's a sample of it in this trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy-iaVlUdDo around 4:33...But I'm not really sure if that's actually Yasu's voice or not.

[RedKey]

Nope, that's young Ange.

[manologod2]

So, I'm wondering, what did Yasu sound like in the PS3 game?

I'm now in that part of the EP7 and I can confirm that Yasu don't have any voice.

[Kirroha]

I'm now in that part of the EP7 and I can confirm that Yasu don't have any voice.

Bleh. I was looking forward to it.

[Used Can]

I'm now in that part of the EP7 and I can confirm that Yasu don't have any voice.
Well shit... that sucks.

[immblueversion]

I'm now in that part of the EP7 and I can confirm that Yasu don't have any voice.

You mean, like, when there's no sprite on the screen? What about when Yasu looks like Clair, and then Beatrice?

Also, what about the man from 19 years ago? Does "he" have a voice?

[Oblivion]

You mean, like, when there's no sprite on the screen? What about when Yasu looks like Clair, and then Beatrice?

Also, what about the man from 19 years ago? Does "he" have a voice?

But doesn't Clair already have her own voice?

[Witch of Trolling]

You mean, like, when there's no sprite on the screen? What about when Yasu looks like Clair, and then Beatrice?

Also, what about the man from 19 years ago? Does "he" have a voice?

The man from 19 years ago is voiced by Daisuke Ono.

[immblueversion]

But doesn't Clair already have her own voice?

Yeah, she's played by Sayaka Ohara. However, Yasu is said not to have a voice, yet s/he ends up taking on an appearance identical to Clair before s/he takes on her more familiar, golden-haired look.

The man from 19 years ago is voiced by Daisuke Ono.

o____________________O

That's evil. And the reason for that would be...what? A red herring?

[Kirroha]

Eh, I was hoping Ayako will voice the man from 19 years ago. She's voicing Lion after all and the resemblance should be there.

[Golden Witch Drugs]

The man from 19 years ago is voiced by Daisuke Ono.

Now that's just mean. I was hoping Ayako would do that part, as she did Lion very well. Besides, if I remember correctly, Natsuhi was never sure about the gender of the caller, and just assumed it to be a young man based on the voice. I think Ayako would do that part much better as Daisuke clearly has a masculine voice.

[RedKey]

Maybe it's because of Black Battler :heh: or maybe they thought they couldn't use Ayako Kawasumi 'cause of the whole "Lion only has fake appearance and voice" thing in ep7.

[manologod2]

Well, this really surprised me.

Yasu doesn't talk until chapter four, her first phrase is:

"....................I'm...gonna stop being a servant."

http://youtu.be/SBow7b6keb0

About the man from 19 years ago, I wasn't sure if her voice was Battler's, but now I confirmed this, thanks :p

[GAtakito]

New CG I found:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2iw3gp.jpg

Hope you like it :)

[immblueversion]

Well, this really surprised me.

Yasu doesn't talk until chapter four, her first phrase is:

"....................I'm...gonna stop being a servant."

http://youtu.be/SBow7b6keb0

Wait, were the quotation marks around Yasu's text in all other scenarios before that? Because before, only text with quotation marks around them tended to be voiced.

New CG I found:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2iw3gp.jpg

Hope you like it :)

And there were no others...?

I once heard there was a CG of Battler punching Bern. Is there any HQ shot of it?

[Kishin]

need moar cg!! raaawr

[fujifruit]

What in gods name did they do to Zepar? I mean..holy fuck.

EDIT: IT'S HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLEEEEEEEEE

[immblueversion]

What in gods name did they do to Zepar? I mean..holy fuck.

EDIT: IT'S HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLEEEEEEEEE

Just be glad Zepar's played by a woman.

[fujifruit]

Just be glad Zepar's played by a woman.

It's still horrible. Something neutral would have been ideal instead of making their genders blatantly obvious.

[Joachim13]

It's still horrible. Something neutral would have been ideal instead of making their genders blatantly obvious.

I absolutely love Zepar and Furfur, and when I heard their voices in OMK I couldn't help but laugh. Even though it's a fact that Zepar is the male if you know demonology, they should have reversed the masculine voice to Furfur to further confuse people. I still enjoy it, but largely just because it makes me laugh. :heh:

[Leo_Otaku]

^ you didn't just post a spoiler did you 0_o

[manologod2]

Wait, were the quotation marks around Yasu's text in all other scenarios before that? Because before, only text with quotation marks around them tended to be voiced.


Before that, Yasu hasn't voice :heh:

[manologod2]

Sorry for the double post, but I uploaded two more videos :p

The "Illusions to Illusions" and the final part of the Tea Party from EP7.

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In a few days I will upload some parts from EP8, I listen petitions ^^

[fujifruit]

I absolutely love Zepar and Furfur, and when I heard their voices in OMK I couldn't help but laugh. Even though it's a fact that Zepar is the male if you know demonology, they should have reversed the masculine voice to Furfur to further confuse people. I still enjoy it, but largely just because it makes me laugh. :heh:

It's funny but it sucks. ;_;

[Walterion]

In a few days I will upload some parts from EP8, I listen petitions ^^

There are two things I wanted to see, one from episode 5, when battler comes back to life with the final answer. And from episode 8 is the Culprit resolution part in Bern's game. Scene infront of the garden shed.

[immblueversion]

If I had to pick a scene, it would be Dlanor and Will vs. the goats.

[battle22]

i just want to hear berns screams voiced... :D :D :D :D :D

[SonozakiUshiromiya]

Ep8 Trick ending, to see if it's expanded as the rumors say.

[Walterion]

Ep8 Trick ending, to see if it's expanded as the rumors say.

This. Add that to my request list. I really want that part, I want to know. Since, to me, it's the true ending.

[AyaSai]

I want to see EP8's Battle of the Golden Land: Erika VS Everyone

[AuraTwilight]

I absolutely love Zepar and Furfur, and when I heard their voices in OMK I couldn't help but laugh. Even though it's a fact that Zepar is the male if you know demonology, they should have reversed the masculine voice to Furfur to further confuse people. I still enjoy it, but largely just because it makes me laugh. :heh:

The same goes for Furfur, too. In Demonology, they're both male, as is Gaap. The Key of Solomon isn't useful here.

[Joly]

I once heard there was a CG of Battler punching Bern. Is there any HQ shot of it?

Not really HQ... but here's the shot. Scanned by a friend of a friend.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx350tI2qA1qjugdxo3_1280.jpg

[Walterion]

Not really HQ... but here's the shot. Scanned by a friend of a friend.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx350tI2qA1qjugdxo3_1280.jpg

Oh god, that Punch, that Kinzo charging his golden fist.

[Oblivion]

You feel that Bern? You just got burned.

[Used Can]

So, who's the one who voiced Yasu? I'd have expected it to either be Kugimiya or Kawasumi, but Yasu's VA seems rather different, or I'm just being fooled.

[immblueversion]

Not really HQ... but here's the shot. Scanned by a friend of a friend.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx350tI2qA1qjugdxo3_1280.jpg

I'll take it this friend of a friend of yours wouldn't be sharing scans from the whole thing, would s/he...?

So, who's the one who voiced Yasu? I'd have expected it to either be Kugimiya or Kawasumi, but Yasu's VA seems rather different, or I'm just being fooled.

I've heard enough of her voice to say with 85% certainty that it is Ohara.

[Joachim13]

The same goes for Furfur, too. In Demonology, they're both male, as is Gaap. The Key of Solomon isn't useful here.

My mistake, I had remembered reading somewhere that Zepar would change his form to seduce greedy men to disgrace them, but I was thinking of something else. Although the Key of Solomon does mention that Furfur has a rough voice, which is backwards for Chiru. :eyespin:

[fujifruit]

The fact that Zepar sounds like a boy makes me question why no one ever questioned his gender.

[Ace of Dragons]

In a few days I will upload some parts from EP8, I listen petitions ^^

Ange calling Eva "mom," or Lambda (not) dying at Featherine's hand?

[orangejuicetang]

Ep 8, Battler vs Erika chain room battle (and Ange vs Beatrice is included in there too I guess)

[Ouverture]

Battler vs Dlanor / Ronove, Gaap, Virgilia vs Erika
and
Ushiromiyas vs Erika in ep8 (especially rosa musou)

[AuraTwilight]

On Sherry's behalf, I request Will headbutting a goat.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

While the Ange and Eva reunion scene was the first time I actually had to hold back tears,
what I want to see the most would be Battler facing Erika in EP8.

[Mormel]

Hi,
Does anyone know where I still can get the Set with both Disks?
Seems that it is already sold out everywhere and I hoped not having to pay 200$ :S

[Oblivion]

Hi,
Does anyone know where I still can get the Set with both Disks?
Seems that it is already sold out everywhere and I hoped not having to pay 200$ :S

You could try Ebay maybe. Some of the prices listed there are only about $170 for the 2 disk set and the shipping is free for some of them as well. If you're looking to buy from the retailers though, I think you're out of luck.

[Kishin]

The fact that Zepar sounds like a boy makes me question why no one ever questioned his gender.

Thats the exact reason I think that Zepar is the girl, its a trap to make u think Furfur is the girl but when u get down there u get hit in the face

[Golden Witch Drugs]

Thats the exact reason I think that Zepar is the girl, its a trap to make u think Furfur is the girl but when u get down there u get hit in the face

Turn the chessboard over again, and they want us to think that Furfur is the male because of Zepar's masculine voice.

[fujifruit]

And I think both of you are putting too much thought into it.

[Kishin]

Maybe we arnt putting enough thought into it? Maybe they want us to think that Furfur is the girl because of Zepars masculine voice so that makes Zepar the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl, but maybe they want us to think that and Furfur is really the girl but maybe they want us to think that and Zepar is really the girl

Mindplosion

[AuraTwilight]

Obviously they're both traps. Demons can shapeshift, and as long as they're opposite from each other the rule is valid.

THEREFORE NO MATTER WHAT YOU END UP WITH THE GAY ONE.

[Golden Witch Drugs]

They're both shemales, end of story.

[Oblivion]

Obviously they're both traps. Demons can shapeshift, and as long as they're opposite from each other the rule is valid.

THEREFORE NO MATTER WHAT YOU END UP WITH THE GAY ONE.

^This.

I never actually thought of it like this but yeah if you say one's a guy they'll just change their gender accordingly. Both of them might as well be both genders at the same time.

[manologod2]

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Tomorrow more :3

[Joly]

Tomorrow more :3

Can you get a recording of the EP8 tea party?

BTW, do you know when the Ange-Beatrice sprite (the one shown in the limited edition book) used in the game?

[immblueversion]

Can you get a recording of the EP8 tea party?

BTW, do you know when the Ange-Beatrice sprite (the one shown in the limited edition book) used in the game?

Most likely during her rampage through the Golden Land. She has the key around her neck for that sprite, and then she no longer has it.

[Captain Bluebeard]

<Good>! Erika's voice has really grown on me!
Except I can't get past the <OH VERY GOOD!> part, and all the Suiseiseki flashbacks....

[GAtakito]

Here some pics from the limited editon

http://i41.tinypic.com/eu3uo4.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/1126ekm.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/kd7m1s.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/20rvi2q.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/raxk03.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/23ud4er.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/20uq1ig.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/33k3fiw.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/35hh0gh.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/11m9h5c.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/2vl19px.jpg

Credits tumblr and its uploader :)

[jjblue1]

Thank you a lot for sharing!

And is it just me or Battler seems a lot younger than he should be in the amusement park photo?

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Thank you a lot for sharing!

And is it just me or Battler seems a lot younger than he should be in the amusement park photo?

Let's say Ange is 5. That makes Battler 11 years old.
I think it looks fine.

[~Ayane~]

But when Ange is 5, Battler is 17.

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Let's say Ange is 5. That makes Battler 11 years old.
I think it looks fine.
But Ange was 6 during the family conference.
That'd make Battler 17.

Anyways, Battler's eyes glowing blue when he uses the blue truth and yellow when he uses the gold truth looks pretty epic.
I can definitely get behind that design choice.

[maximilianjenus]

let's say ange is -2 then.

[jjblue1]

But when Ange is 5, Battler is 17.

Exactly. And in that photo Battler might look 11 but definitely not 17 as he should be...

[CrimsonMoonMist]

Well, he also looks pretty skinny in that CG where he, Rudolf and Kyrie are standing evily.

[The Creator]

Are those CG's available only with the limited edition (i mean in the actual game), or you just posted scans from the artbook that has CG from the game (meaning that the normal & limited versions have the same CG).

[Witch of Uncertainty]

But when Ange is 5, Battler is 17.

You're right. I completely messed up there, lol. Sorry. :p

[Azule]

I know I wouldn't mind a few of them as my wallpaper.
I'm especially in love with the Erika vs Beato one from the wedding, thoughh...

[Klashikari]

Are those CG's available only with the limited edition (i mean in the actual game), or you just posted scans from the artbook that has CG from the game (meaning that the normal & limited versions have the same CG).
That's from the artbook, which is a mere collection of few CG from the game.
The game in the LE pack is actually no different than standard edition game, it is just that it has an additional box and book, that's all.

I'm almost done with Episode 8, and I can't say I'm fully satisfied with how Alchemist handled the port of the franchise.
Frankly, there are so many weird decisions in term of voice acting direction and sprite/CG selection that make me wonder how they did it.

At least, I didn't notice any major script change whatsoever.

[Captain Bluebeard]

I haven't played the PS3 remake, nor will I ever since I have zero knowledge on Japanese, but I actually assumed it would be lacking in comparison to the PC. Remakes rarely manage to capture the palm of the original, and let's face it, the PS3 version is all about the shiny effects and being candy to the eyes.

[Klashikari]

I haven't played the PS3 remake, nor will I ever since I have zero knowledge on Japanese, but I actually assumed it would be lacking in comparison to the PC. Remakes rarely manage to capture the palm of the original, and let's face it, the PS3 version is all about the shiny effects and being candy to the eyes.
The problem is the very purpose of the games itself: the "eye candy" aspect doesn't work at all.
They did a very good job in keeping every tracks from the original games, and altering nothing from the script (or almost?).

However, the shiny effects are... nowhere close to what you can expect from a PS3, or even a standard PC VN/galge.
The problem is quite evident with an HD screen: the design in general is too "sharp", without being crisp, therefore, it looks a little rough, especially few backgrounds etc. There is actually little work on lightning and shadows (be it as effects or CG themselves), so the general aspect is rather dull with little ambiant effect.
the special effects are not too bad, especially the rapid slicing effects and the "beam impact", but I must say the "deep slash" effects are annoying as hell because they are -SLOW- and unskippable. Because of that, some full force fast strikes look extremely slow with the narration (Erika and Dlanor in ep8 are big victims of that).

But my main gripe is how the voice acting is sort of weird at times. To be honest, aside of Battler VA, Ono Daisuke, the other male characters are not convincing in their angry or sorrowful fits, especially Krauss in ep7 (when he is furious against Eva for "you know why").
And no matter how much of a Yukarin fanboy I'm, her performance was weirdly directed, especially Bern expressing "shock and panic" more than what you can actually expect from her.

Really, I will probably make several playthroughs with the 2 games, but honestly, I really can't consider these 2 ports as "successful".

[immblueversion]

And no matter how much of a Yukarin fanboy I'm, her performance was weirdly directed, especially Bern expressing "shock and panic" more than what you can actually expect from her.

Well, Bern had more facial expressions than what we expected from her by the time EP5 came out. Maybe the voice director had that in mind and...well...took it in that direction.

Oh well, what's done is done. I'm not in it for the effects and visuals, as cool as they try to be (of course, the character sprites remain pretty neat to look at). I'm really in it for the voices, and for the most part, despite their misgivings, there was some satisfaction I got from them. There were, of course, gratuitous amounts of ham (hello, Beato), but I for one taught myself to enjoy ham long before this came out. It's just best to do it in doses, I guess.

[Oblivion]

But my main gripe is how the voice acting is sort of weird at times. To be honest, aside of Battler VA, Ono Daisuke, the other male characters are not convincing in their angry or sorrowful fits, especially Krauss in ep7 (when he is furious against Eva for "you know why").
And no matter how much of a Yukarin fanboy I'm, her performance was weirdly directed, especially Bern expressing "shock and panic" more than what you can actually expect from her.

I don't quite get what you're trying to say. Do you means Bern's VA didn't express enough emotion in those scenes or it was too much?

[immblueversion]

I don't quite get what you're trying to say. Do you means Bern's VA didn't express enough emotion in those scenes or it was too much?

I'm pretty sure he's saying it's too much. Then again, things like emotional breakdowns can only be interpreted in so many ways. (Of course, it's not limited to that...)

[Tong]

Amazing artwork =o
I really like them, the artist's lines and color are just astonishing!

[Klashikari]

I don't quite get what you're trying to say. Do you means Bern's VA didn't express enough emotion in those scenes or it was too much?
Way too much. In episode 8, she even has a "grieving" voice which does not only match the situation, but goes completely against Bern's personality altogether.
After going through Episode 8 a second time, it is ironic to me to consider Bern as the best -and- worst voiced character, since the performance range from "perfectly matched" to "completely out of character".

Another fun part: they didn't care about the "age gap" in the voice direction: they made Ono keeping his voice when Battler unleashed his rage against Rudolf in ep7 (despite he is supposed to be 12 years old), and Kotobuki Yukari and Hachijou Tohya voices are basically the "normal ones". You can't even expect them to have 40-50 years old.

[Captain Bluebeard]

Amazing artwork =o
I really like them, the artist's lines and color are just astonishing!
Couldn't agree more. Still, I think Ryukishi's art is a tone better (yeah, seriously!).

Way too much. In episode 8, she even has a "grieving" voice which does not only match the situation, but goes completely against Bern's personality altogether.
After going through Episode 8 a second time, it is ironic to me to consider Bern as the best -and- worst voiced character, since the performance range from "perfectly matched" to "completely out of character".

From the parts that were uploaded on Youtube, I can sort of see what you mean. Still, I absolutely adore Yukari Tamura as Bern -possibly because I'm such a huge Rika lover, or because my Beard is Blue:p-.

[Drifloon]

I think my general opinion of this port from what I've seen is that the CGs are absolutely brilliant but the original probably did everything else better.

Personally, from watching scenes on Youtube, it seems to me like voice acting ruins the pacing of a lot of scenes. The battle scenes just weren't meant to move that slowly. The drawn out animations don't help either (Dlanor's sword was so much better in the original in both visuals and speed).

[MainCharacter]

I think what it comes down to, mostly, is just that we had our own versions in mind for the way these characters sounded in certain scenes, as well as how they looked in some of the art. The PS3 version seems to go against what most people had imagined a few times. Makes us react with hostility.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Well, I've only played the first 3 eps on the PS3 version, but my main gripe is that the "sword slashes" etc, are indeed too slow. In the PC version, it was like BAMBAMBAM /RED TRUTH\, but in the PS3 version, it was a calm slash, and then red truth.
However, overallt I'm pretty happy with at least Rondo so far. Intending to buy Nocturne, too.

[AyaSai]

Is there a scan of Clair's full character art from the Limited Edition book?

[Klashikari]

I think what it comes down to, mostly, is just that we had our own versions in mind for the way these characters sounded in certain scenes, as well as how they looked in some of the art. The PS3 version seems to go against what most people had imagined a few times. Makes us react with hostility.
the problem is that even with its own standards, it is horribly slow, despite the game is plenty capable of matching the narration.
The biggest counterexample of the previous issue is Kanon with his rapid slashes, as well as "piercing" truths (the diagonal colored beam of lights) being appropriately fast. For instance, Kanon/Shannon VS Siesta corps in Ep4 was fast enough.

But the "deep slash" with Dlanor's longsword, Will's Katana, Erika's Scythe etc are just slow as heck.
And for some reason, Dlanor's rage was really dumbed down due to this choice, while the original game went on brutal mode with the piercing effect instead of regular sword slash.

[MainCharacter]

Aww, all of manologod2's videos are gone. :(

[Walterion]

Aww, all of manologod2's videos are gone. :(

Yeah, noticed that. Maybe she got a warning from Youtube or something. Who knows.

[Eriko 556]

Yeah, noticed that. Maybe she got a warning from Youtube or something. Who knows.

Well... She can make a .rar with all her videos and upload on mediafire.

[aidmoon]

Well... She can make a .rar with all her videos and upload on mediafire.

yes, please :(~!! i want to see them again sif!

[Meltyred]

I haven't played the PS3 remake, nor will I ever since I have zero knowledge on Japanese, but I actually assumed it would be lacking in comparison to the PC. Remakes rarely manage to capture the palm of the original, and let's face it, the PS3 version is all about the shiny effects and being candy to the eyes.

The only reason I would play the PS3 version would be the backgrounds.
And to a lesser extent, the sprites.

[immblueversion]

Question:

Are there any sprites showing Battler with his golden sword, like how they made sprites showing Erika's scythe and Will's sword, or is it yet another weapon that's still mentioned but not actually shown in his hands, like Bern's scythe, those duel pistols, and Beato and Erika's dueling swords in EP8?

Because either way, until I get a look at it, I'm assuming his sword would look something like this (it's the giant sword Dlanor killed Battler with; the image was taken from Ougon Musou Kyoku Cross and edited with Photoshop by me):

http://s13.postimage.org/78tjp1phj/gold_sword.jpg

[Klashikari]

No, there isn't any.
They actually used a golden sword sprite, similar to Dlanor's longsword (which was initially in the doujin game but never used for some reason).
But you never see a sprite of Battler with a sword, you only see a CG with some "sort" of blue and gold (and funnily enough, the game does not have Battler in gold with the gamemaster cloak, despite the visual book shows it).

[immblueversion]

No, there isn't any.
They actually used a golden sword sprite, similar to Dlanor's longsword (which was initially in the doujin game but never used for some reason).
But you never see a sprite of Battler with a sword, you only see a CG with some "sort" of blue and gold (and funnily enough, the game does not have Battler in gold with the gamemaster cloak, despite the visual book shows it).

Well, just imagine Battler swingin' that baby around. (It'd have to be smaller than it was when it killed him, though.)

[maximilianjenus]

iirc, battler's "thing" is the same size as dlanor's.

[orangejuicetang]

iirc, battler's "thing" is the same size as dlanor's.

That choice of phrasing...

the images that appear in my head...

oh god lol

[fuff]

is the cg out yet?

[Witch of Uncertainty]

I have a question.
When Beatrice dies, does promise play? Did they use the exact same version as in the original VN, or the music box one, or alter it in another way? I was not keen on the original version, but the one used in the music box was incredible!

[Klashikari]

Exact same song.

[Joly]

Did the PS3 version switch to Kiri no Pithos as an OP or something else for EP7 and EP8? Or is it still 'Inanna no Mita Yume'?

[RedKey]

Did the PS3 version switch to Kiri no Pithos as an OP or something else for EP7 and EP8? Or is it still 'Inanna no Mita Yume'?

I'm still re-reading EP5, but it does have Occultics no Majo PS3 version as the opening, so I guess EP7 and EP8 will have

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[Joly]

Ah, I see. I thought they would have kept the song by Zwei. The PS3 Kiri no Pithos looks great. :)

[RandomAvatarFan]

I thought those openings were fanmade. There's one with the third PC OP too.

[Klashikari]

Or is it still 'Inanna no Mita Yume'?
This OP is only used for the intro before you start/load any episode, randomly cycling with either occultics no majo and kiri no pithos.

[Leo_Otaku]

Currently on EP5 :) is quite a blast!

I could never play the PC game with the art it has, just putting it out there. I waited for the PS3 release since day one :) No at all disappointed at all. I also love having voices it makes it much more fun too.

[KoiYuki]

I never got to see those videos that were posted of some of the clips, so can someone tell me.. Yasu spoke, right? What voice was used (Clair, a new one, Beatrice..?)?

[Klashikari]

Some "child voice", by Ohara (same seiyuu for Beato, beato 2, Castioglini, Clair)

[CrimsonMoonMist]

I never got to see those videos that were posted of some of the clips, so can someone tell me.. Yasu spoke, right? What voice was used (Clair, a new one, Beatrice..?)? I seem to remember Yasu had no voice at all,
correct me if I'm mistaken.

[immblueversion]

I seem to remember Yasu had no voice at all,
correct me if I'm mistaken.

Yasu had no voice until the scene where s/he was alone with Shannon, right before becoming a witch.

[MainCharacter]

She also speaks in the Episode 7 Tea Party when the "scenes" come pouring out of Clair's wound. The whole "with a body like this" thing.

[Kirroha]

She also speaks in the Episode 7 Tea Party when the "scenes" come pouring out of Clair's wound. The whole "with a body like this" thing.

Was that also Ohara's voice, or Kawasumi's?

[Bluemail]

Was that also Ohara's voice, or Kawasumi's?
Sounded like Ohara to me. She did that scene really well.
I think Yasu didn't have a voice before the scene where she becomes a witch because it would spoil that she was Beatrice from the beginning.

[immblueversion]

I think Yasu didn't have a voice before the scene where she becomes a witch because it would spoil that she was Beatrice from the beginning.

Well, I've heard that the man from 19 years ago was voiced by Daisuke Ono (though I would still very much like to hear his voice for myself), and we all know that the man isn't really Battler. Sure, Battler suggested it was him even though he knew it wasn't, but still, it was something of a red herring. So why not treat Yasu's voice the same way and have him/her be played by Sayaka Ohara for every single line? I mean, for all people who don't know who Yasu is could have known, it would have just been another red herring. Besides, it's not like the reveal wasn't gonna come soon after Yasu's identity was first laid bare in EP7.

[Klashikari]

Spoiler with voice is hardly something you would expect Alchemist to care about: they created much worse spoilers with the Openings, and the booklets of both games indicate all characters, even those you woudn't even expect to know (Lion and Will, namely).

[immblueversion]

Spoiler with voice is hardly something you would expect Alchemist to care about: they created much worse spoilers with the Openings, and the booklets of both games indicate all characters, even those you woudn't even expect to know (Lion and Will, namely).

So the question remains: why leave a whole chunk of Yasu's external dialogue undubbed?

[MainCharacter]

Perhaps it's something like this...

Yasu's voice BEFORE they become a witch is unvoiced, but their voice after they become a witch is voiced. In a way, you can see the Witch Yasu as a Fantasy character. Once Yasu turns into a witch, we stop seeing the real Yasu in the story and instead are shown different representations for herself. The moment she "became a witch" is the moment we stopped actually seeing Yasu, the real person, in the VN.

So in a way, Yasu was never voiced. They only voiced Witch-Yasu, because it's a fantasy in Yasu's mind just like Beatrice, Clair, and Shannon. Perhaps they didn't want to voice the real Yasu to keep the character as vague as possible, but they felt that once Yasu became a witch, it was fine to give them a voice, as it could be a different voice from the real Yasu's voice anyway.

[Kirroha]

Leaving Yasu unvoiced still seems like a bad idea to me.

[manologod2]

yes, please :(~!! i want to see them again sif!

Hi

I have all of them, but my internet sucks as hell, so upload this will take 3/4 days at a minimum.

However I will try to upload all of them to mediafire/megashare or something.

Stay tuned.

[AuraTwilight]

Yasu does have one voiced line, so we do get to hear her.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

They shipped my copy yesterday. Can't wait! :D

[Captain Bluebeard]

Leaving Yasu unvoiced still seems like a bad idea to me.

Maybe it's due to the first person narration. Many visual novels do not voice the lines spoken by the character whose eyes we are perceiving the story through.

P.S:
By the way, doesn't Erika's pirate hat look absolutely lovely in the PS3 art :D???

[immblueversion]

Maybe it's due to the first person narration. Many visual novels do not voice the lines spoken by the character whose eyes we are perceiving the story through.

First person narration scenes have no quotation marks. How often does Yasu speak with quotation marks in this game?

However, I noticed some lines that normally would have no quotation around them (at least in the original VN) are voiced, if the voice patch being made for the games is to be trusted.

[Captain Bluebeard]

First person narration scenes have no quotation marks. How often does Yasu speak with quotation marks in this game?

However, I noticed some lines that normally would have no quotation around them (at least in the original VN) are voiced, if the voice patch being made for the games is to be trusted.

I wasn't talking about the lines with no quation marks and their thoughts, I was talking about actual dialogue of the main character being left unvoiced. It happens in a lot of visual novels. Though since they did voice Battler's lines in the first Eps, I think leaving Yasu unvoiced seems a bit off.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Anyone knows how poorly/well this game sold btw?

[Klashikari]

Up to now, Nocturne was sold approximately around 18K copies (17700 within 7 weeks), which is almost as much as Rondo (except Rondo had a better start and died off quickly, while Nocturne isn't at its tenth week yet).

Simply put, Nocturne sparked a little more interest, but hardly enough to call it a fair sale figure.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Aah, thanks.
I always thought that 10K copies was considered "good" for Visual Novels.
Guess I was wrong. :P

[Klashikari]

Depends of the plateform and company.
Console games are not profitable with such measely sale figures. Even games ported to death like Clannad managed to sell for 30K copies.
This is also the reason why Alchemist port umineko on PSP, which indicates clearly they are desperate to make the cash flow in (that and the 2 editions (limited and bundle pack) for Nocturne, in addition to the regular version).

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Hmm, this might come a bit late, but isn't it pretty much confirmed that Bernkastel is Frederica Bernkastel from higurashi?
I'm reading through ep 5, and I just come to the Genji-crime scene, and I see the duct tape is signed with "Frederica Bernkastel".

Not important, but interesitng, imo.

[battle22]

As much as i hate to say it,,, alchemist didnt do a god job with EP5 ???? . those effects just ruined it .:(

[RedKey]

As much as i hate to say it,,, alchemist didnt do a god job with EP5 ???? . those effects just ruined it .:(

Are you talking about the fight scenes? Yeah, same for me. It's the only complaint I have as of now.

[battle22]

Are you talking about the fight scenes? Yeah, same for me. It's the only complaint I have as of now.

Yeah those fight scenes. I have onle 2 complaints lol. 1st is that the effects are just too damn long and the second is bern's voice actress...she overreacted . those bern laughs feel so fake and unreal... oposite of Lambda. she did a good job .

[Klashikari]

For some reasons, the sound director made Tamura going hysterical/shocked for mundane things, which Bern wouldn't do. This goes worse over the episodes.
In fact, the tone and the voice acting in uminko PS3 is straight average compared to what these voice actors can really do.

[battle22]

For some reasons, the sound director made Tamura going hysterical/shocked for mundane things, which Bern wouldn't do. This goes worse over the episodes.
In fact, the tone and the voice acting in uminko PS3 is straight average compared to what these voice actors can really do.

Realy? i was quite impressed with voice acting, even if there was some flaw's.
for example eva did a awesome job.

[GAtakito]

Hi!
Does anyone here know where I can download the sistem picture packaged from Umineko Chiru PS3 ??? I heard something about Slowpoke, but as much as I type it on google I got a pokemon pic :!

[Captain Bluebeard]

Hmm, this might come a bit late, but isn't it pretty much confirmed that Bernkastel is Frederica Bernkastel from higurashi?
I'm reading through ep 5, and I just come to the Genji-crime scene, and I see the duct tape is signed with "Frederica Bernkastel".

Not important, but interesitng, imo.

I think I've read in some interview that Ryukishi07 said Bernkastel and Frederica Bernkastel are different people...but I'm really not sure I'm not just making this up. The way I've always seen it is that Frederica(FurudeRika) Bernkastel is the main character of HigurashiKAI, and then in Rei they get separated from one another. And that's where Bern comes from.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

I think I've read in some interview that Ryukishi07 said Bernkastel and Frederica Bernkastel are different people...but I'm really not sure I'm not just making this up. The way I've always seen it is that Frederica(FurudeRika) Bernkastel is the main character of HigurashiKAI, and then in Rei they get separated from one another. And that's where Bern comes from.

I know Rika and Bernkastel are different beings, but I always believed that Bernkastel and Frederica Bernkastel were the same entity. And since the duct-tape is signed with "Frederica Bernkastel", I'm pretty sure that is the case.

I have never heard him confirmeing that Bern and Frederica Bern are different from each other, though I must also admit that I am not exactly updated on the his interviews. :P

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Frederica was always split from Rika. When you complete Higurashi Kai, it ends with her telling us how she wants to experiment with the kakera's. What I think happened in Rei (only watched the anime) was Rika almost Merging with Frederica, instead of them splitting up.

[Oroboro]

I've always operated under the theory that Bernkastel is sort of a hate filled amalgamation of all the Rika's that never reached a happy ending.

[Klashikari]

There are "2" layers of Bernkastel: the being who is the spectator of "rika" struggle, in the sea of fragments (the narrator in the sea of fragments explaining the rules in minagoroshi) and frederica who is the fused consciousness of all Rika who has perished and struggle in each world.
Whereas Frederica stopped the whole witch act in Saikoroshi in order to live as human, Bern drifted in the sea of fragments.

The mention of "back I was human" in Episode 2 is a reference to Bern "still" Frederica before being split for good. The whole "frederica bernkastel" would be a reference to Bern's "human piece" which was Frederica, and now Erika.

[Oblivion]

How did Bern come into existence? Did it happen at the moment right after the original Rika was killed for the first time or did she gradually come into existence?

[MainCharacter]

After awhile I stopped thinking of the Bern we know in Umineko as having any real connection to Higurashi aside from references. Mostly because once the whole "Featherine's miko" and "she was a cat that had to walk on a keyboard for eternity until she coincidentally typed this entire thing" things came into play, it was hard for to make it fit in my mind. Although I suppose the latter could be considered a vague metaphor for Higurashi in a way, I don't really see much of a connection. Unless Bern as we know her came before Rika and Higurashi really was always just a game for those on a higher plane of existence, as opposed to the origin of the characters like we assumed in early Umineko episodes.

[Mormel]

Since this apparently the right thread I'm gonna ask here:
What are the differences between the PC and PS3 versions? What are the Pros and Cons of either port? Please share your personal opinion on the changes.

What I read in this thread so far and gathered from who knows where:

Differences that can be either good or bad:
-PS3 has voice acting
-the art style is certainly different
-PS3 has cinematic effects which makes the book more lively
-PS3 has CGs
-PS3 has revised music

Pro PC:
-Is the way it was meant to be (or not due lack of funds?)
-leaves more room for imagination (and has therefore more impact on the reader?)

Pro PS3:
-Has Full HD resolution
(-Dolby Digital?)

Please add,correct and confirm things

Some things I am particular interested in:
There is one scene that caused a tear rolling down my cheek. That was when Rudolf killed George, which was just one of the saddest scenes overall...for me at least ;)
I think that I saw that there was a CG for that scene where George's face was totally different from the original PC version. He seemed full of agony instead of utter disappointment, which is understandable being shot and all, but it would spoil one of the best scenens in the book.
Is it really this way or am I seeing things?
And something I already added with a question mark above. Of course this is all terribly subjective....Does the book with a more cinematic appearance and CGs leave less of an impact on the reader?

So please help and excuse this long post, but I think that clarification would be really beneficial for not only me ^^

[Ouverture]

Can someone tell me what's the bgm under Revelations in the music box? I'm missing that to complete it

[MainCharacter]

Wait, you have to unlock BGM in the PS3 versions? How does that work?

(and I'm not sure if this helps or not as the order may be completely different, but in the PC version it's Soar)

[Ouverture]

It was Umineko no Naku Koro ni, i skipped the ending of the trick ending (lol) so I didn't hear that

[Schro]

This going to probably be a no, but is there an english port of the ps3 games?

[Klashikari]

No, there isn't any, and it is unlikely there will be one in the future.

[RandomAvatarFan]

Heh, with NISA's move to license the anime, the possibility of it happening is no longer 0.

[Judoh]

Heh, with NISA's move to license the anime, the possibility of it happening is no longer 0.

Still, even if the anime sells decently it's very, unlikely to happen. With how niche visual novels like Umineko still are. It's very risky to spend money on.

[Mormel]

Hey guys,
I really don't know a thing about the PS3..so please help me out ;)
Soon I will be able to use my Uminekos again on a friends PS3. The last few times I just started at the second disc and read along with my netbook. But there are particular scenes I want to read with the PS3 version. Is there a possibility of putting a savegame on the PS3? And if so, could anyone please post a (nearly) completed one please? :rolleyes:

Edit:
Seems that it really is possible :D Now could anyone of you please, please upload your saves (if possible for both games) so that I can read over my favourite scenes?
Like pirate Erika or what about EP7 Teaparty, really cool one-armed Will fighting Bern. The Shannon and Kanon duel of course. And who would forget the funny Erika-Maria battle or Maria getting killed in the Love duel. And if I would get a save for the first game, too, I could finally re-read my all-time favourite moment: Maria and badass Rosa killing goats ;D

[battle22]

Does anyone know when the Portable 3 comes out? It's been like forever. I'm dying here :D
I hope they didn't stop on EP4, that would totally suck.

[Magnum Bookworm]

The fan-made patch for this should be coming out sometime soon.

I finished Ni 4 weeks ago, and fucking loved it! I can't wait to see why people love this Erika Furudo person so much.

[GabrieliosP]

The translation for this should be coming out sometime soon.

I finished Ni 4 weeks ago, and fucking loved it! I can't wait to see why people love this Erika Furudo person so much.

Trust me, you'll love to HATE her with all your might when she first appears, THEN you'll start to sympathize with her.

And the correct term is not "translation" but "fan-made patch", because the PC version of Chiru has all content that the PS3 has story-wise and is translated.

[Magnum Bookworm]

Trust me, you'll love to HATE her with all your might when she first appears, THEN you'll start to sympathize with her.

And the correct term is not "translation" but "fan-made patch", because the PC version of Chiru has all content that the PS3 has story-wise and is translated.

Will I love to hate her more than Beatrice? Beatrice is one of the few characters that I hated and loved at the same time....either way, Erika sounds like loads of fun.

[GabrieliosP]

Personally, at first I only hated her. Then I grew to love hating her. It depends, Erika is a bit of a base breaker amongst the fandom.

[AuraTwilight]

Erika, to put it as neutrally as possible, is a deliberate Mary Sue.

[GabrieliosP]

To be more specific: she's a God Mod Sue with the personality of a Jerk Sue, intented do be hated and we all love her for that.

[Renall]

I do wonder if she makes a different initial impression with voice acting.

[GabrieliosP]

From what I've seen, she at first speaks in a very low and reserved voice, THEN she goes all hammy like in OMK.

[liberatedliberator]

Her VA's performance is one of my favorites in Chiru. Yes, she is reserved and proper at first, but once you hit the major scenes where she wreaks havoc, her voice acting is just insanely good. During a certain chapter in EP6, she is just straight up insane and it sends chills down your spine. It really puts her character in another perspective when you actually get to hear her character speak.

[battle22]

Lib... What are you doing here? O.o (- Levani.)

[Magnum Bookworm]

And you guys proceed to talk about how awesome Erika is.

Now I want to start Chiru even more!

[liberatedliberator]

Lib... What are you doing here? O.o (- Levani.)

I've been here longer than you've been here, bub.

[battle22]

I've been here longer than you've been here, bub.
You just joined a month earlier than I did. :D I don't call that 'long'

[liberatedliberator]

Anyway, there are a lot of strong performances in this game. It honestly makes the experience so much more engaging than the original game, IMO.

[liberatedliberator]

You just joined a month earlier than I did. :D I don't call that 'long'
I didn't realize that January and July were one month apart

[battle22]

I didn't realize that January and July were one month apart
Sorry... For some reason I read that as Jun. XD fail lol

[Magnum Bookworm]

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Am I right to assume this whole song describes Erika's character word-for-word?

If so, she sounds like an even more epic version of Baccano!'s Ladd Russo.

[cj_iwakura]

Easily the most despicable character I've ever seen. Everything about her makes me want to see her die horribly.

[Drifloon]

Well, that's kind of harsh. She is a pretty horrible person, but she doesn't really have much of an opportunity to be anything else given the situation she's in. I have a feeling she'd be much more likable if we could see her as a human before becoming Bern's piece.

[GabrieliosP]

Just nitpicking, but we already have a thread for music discussion so conversations regarding songs would be better suited there.

[Magnum Bookworm]

Good point. I'd probably get a lot more answers there anyway.

Anyway, the final QC started today, according the UminekoTweak Tumblr.