Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll [Archive]

Kairin

2011-11-03, 13:08

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Midonin

2011-11-03, 14:00

That was a lot of fun. Virtual reality technology in the here and now let us know that things were going to be quite the trip. The club has a lot more life in it ever since it got new members. None of them are above sabotaging the others, with Kobato and Maria being the most recent pair to display this. No wonder they have trouble making friends. Kobato's not an official club member yet, but at this point, she may as well be.

zeniselv

2011-11-03, 15:50

quite an average episode, they took some of the funnier parts of the episode specially the wasurobo(or wewhatever their name) speech, and the funniest part of kobato X maria was put in the preview, also they took quite the liberties with the story, just to make more obious that some characters are almost carbon copies from another LN characters, well it at leasst look next episode its gonna get some of rika antics, and those have been the funnier and better potrayed so far.

potchip

2011-11-03, 16:04

It is pulling all stops to appeal to people not familiar with the source, via references/service whenever possible. A very commercial product. :eyebrow:

Shinova

2011-11-03, 16:11

Now there won't be endless questions about Kobato's heterochromia. :)

Wilfriback

2011-11-03, 21:01

It could have been better. At least the next episode will have Rika's antics.

Pocari_Sweat

2011-11-03, 21:17

Hmm... probably the weakest ep so far, mainly because I found Index... I mean Maria and Kobato annoying. Then again I never liked loli characters that much... and the whole brocon thing is so overused. They even referenced Oreimo in one of the lines - "Your little sister can't be this cute!" :heh:

Yozora and Sena were funny per usual and I was neutral to sci-fi geek girl (I forgot her name...). Trap (Forgot -his- name) I don't really care. Needs more hater (Yozora) and meat (Sena) and less loli nuns and brocons.

Still, was a decent ep, and had moments where I was laughing so I'll give it 7/10.

ars89

2011-11-03, 21:24

Poor Kobato just wants to spend time with her brother again. Like how she ended up fighting Maria. Oh man there trying games again. Lol at their costumes. Yozara being cruel as ever to Sena is getting old for me.

Flawfinder

2011-11-03, 21:55

Well, that was...weird. Kind of cute, but weird all the same. Didn't laugh too much with this one. Hopefully, the karaoke thing next week is better.

Tenchi Ryu

2011-11-03, 22:00

GOD MY OH....

not one little imouto, but TWO imoutos?!

JESUS CHRIST I CAN'T TAKE IT!!!!!!

MOE OVERLOAD!!!!!! UNIVERSE!!!!

*explodes*

SilverSyko

2011-11-03, 22:43

Yeah, weakest episode so far. I was worried with the addition of the new cast members things would start to degrade and it pretty much did here. Nothing remotely funny in this episode to me, but there were quite a number of references which didn't go over my head so I suppose that's nice.

I guess this episode confirms Kobato's heterochromia isn't natural, I figured it wasn't but ya never know. Guess she's a brocon too, but hey, in a harem series that's somewhat to be expected.

At least Yukimura looked more manly with that full-body samurai armor on in this episode.~

And Yozora finally shows a bit of her cute side, maybe that'll help her reputation a bit.

But all in all, just a very "meh" episode. More of a time-waster than anything, but that's fine cause I have plenty of time to waste. :heh:

Sackett

2011-11-03, 22:49

Glad for once that the imouto is actually jealous of her brother's friends because she wants a brother. Not the stupid "little sister love interest" that so many shows seem to have.

Shown by how her fiercest reaction is not to the older girls, but rather to the "rival" little sister type character calling her brother "Oni-chan".

Even going in to snuggle with him at night is still the sort of thing a little sister might do if she felt her big brother might be taken from her. She's a little old for it, but she's been shown to be pretty immature already so I didn't find it too hard to believe.

I wasn't getting any "brocon" vibes at all. Just a "daddy's girl" who's focused that kind of thing on her big brother rather then her father.

AzureWrath

2011-11-03, 23:02

Probably the weakest episode for me too. It just didn't flow as well and they left the best part for the preview. I have to say that the manga had it much better.

king12354

2011-11-03, 23:31

Wasn't that great of an episode but I found it amusing that the company was called LargeHard.

Velsy

2011-11-03, 23:45

The Maria and Kobato fighting was the highlight of this episode (thought the did this part really well)... everything else was done better in the manga (from what I've read).

Also for a short period, I was like "omg they screwed up and gave Kobato 2 blue eyes". Some reason ima attatched to charaters with the different colour eyes fault, (call it eye complex as you will <.<) But I just had a friend tell me, it can be done by contacts... Which leaves me dissappointed in Kobatos eye colours being fake :'(

TurkeyPotPie

2011-11-04, 00:00

Nice to see a PC Engine (excuse me, "LargeHard") make an appearance. Haven't seen an NEC system in an anime since the SuperGrafx in Shiki. :eyespin:

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 00:21

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/BokuTomo/th_boku-wa-tomodachi-ga-sukunai-episode-5-046.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/BokuTomo/?action=view&current=boku-wa-tomodachi-ga-sukunai-episode-5-046.jpg)

LOL.

Also for a short period, I was like "omg they screwed up and gave Kobato 2 blue eyes". Some reason ima attatched to charaters with the different colour eyes fault, (call it eye complex as you will <.<) But I just had a friend tell me, it can be done by contacts... Which leaves me dissappointed in Kobatos eye colours being fake :'(

I like it, because it shows there is a reason for her heterochromia instead of "I throw it there because the read love it".

Didn't expect the anime goes too fast like this, though. They skipped a lot.

Bonta Kun

2011-11-04, 00:34

Glad for once that the imouto is actually jealous of her brother's friends because she wants a brother. Not the stupid "little sister love interest" that so many shows seem to have.

Shown by how her fiercest reaction is not to the older girls, but rather to the "rival" little sister type character calling her brother "Oni-chan".

Thats the picture it paints but the manga had it just a little different, while Maria was still the focus of Kobato's jealously, she also seems to know that Sena is a potential threat as well:p

Wasn't as good as previous episodes but the Kobato moe overlaod did well to boost it's rating.
Isn't it criminal for such a young lass to be wearing a frilly thigh strap like that?!:eek:

Never realized this before but the wizard role is the same thing that happened in To-Love-Ru with Rito being a gardener:heh:

Archon_Wing

2011-11-04, 00:51

Ahhhh, all that screaming was hella annoying. It was not Kana Hanazawa's best moment, but at least Kobato turned into roleplay mode which was sudden and funny.

However loli nun is just doing nothing for me and that voice, oh god, burn in hell!

The virtual reality game was kinda fun, but I kinda felt we did this rpg thing already. The best part was Sena's outfit; I was very disappointed in Yozara's :heh:

Rika seemed to be the star of the show today. She didn't do too much, but she seems to be the least mean of them and might be the first to get closer to Kodaka.

Also, lol@ the Oreimo line. I'm not really sure what to think of Kobato atm, but she could get funnier depending on how they play her. She looks much better without contacts, that's for sure.

6/10. Weakest episode of the series so far, but fanservice and silly antics, plus the infamous line "this game is imbalanced" make it a fine watch.

Forsaken_Infinity

2011-11-04, 00:58

I kind of expected more random fun but this episode turned out weak, very weak compared to the last one ._.

7 / 10 for this episode. Kobato's true ancestor talks and the random references to other titles and that definition of se- by Maria were the highlights for me.

TJR

2011-11-04, 01:07

I liked the Romancing SaGa reference (including the use of Kenji Ito's typical style of music for the series), but on the whole, the humor wasn't quite as effective as in previous episodes.

cuzsal

2011-11-04, 01:12

so kobato wears a red contact? or did they just mess up and make both her eyes blue at the end there?

mangatron

2011-11-04, 01:20

^--- I believe that since she assumed the role of her favorite character, she sought contacts to complete the role. This episode seems to have silently confirmed that.

And, am I the only one who found it odd when Kobato took control of Maria's character, it retained Maria's voice? Surely the game isn't as advanced as a voice recognition storage, as far as I can tell the players voice is transmitted through it (for example when Yozora giggled).

Though it was funny hearing Maria speak Kobato's way :heh:

bbl

Kagayaki

2011-11-04, 01:22

It was like I was watching episode 2 again, except with all the character development replaced with reference-based humor. It didn't make me ragequit or anything, but I didn't laugh once.

Ok, they did a decent job of showing how nice a guy Kodaka is. But that was really the only notable thing that happened in this episode.

Malkuth

2011-11-04, 01:39

For obvious reasons I really loved the episode... the more Kobato, the better... even with loli nuns around... brings out a different aspect of her persona :p

Now there won't be endless questions about Kobato's heterochromia. :)

I thought so too, but...

so kobato wears a red contact? or did they just mess up and make both her eyes blue at the end there?

:twitch::uhoh::eyespin:

Sumeragi

2011-11-04, 01:49

so kobato wears a red contact? or did they just mess up and make both her eyes blue at the end there?

Her mother was English. Most likely her natural eye color is blue.

Reckoner

2011-11-04, 01:49

My fear about the additional cast members have come to light. Thus far they really weaken the show. The Sena, Yozora, Kodaka trio was far more interesting alone. I guess Rika is ok, but loli nun and loi sister really, really are kind of annoying. The trap is just kind of there at the moment, but he/she is far better than than the nun and the sister.

Weakest episode of the series so far. Though I still found some semblances of entertainment here and there. Favorite line being "this game is unbalanced" :heh:. I give it a 6/10.

KyriaL

2011-11-04, 02:18

Can't help but notice how many parodies they included in this episode. The parodies alone kept me entertained throughout.

bakAnki

2011-11-04, 02:25

Agree that this is weakest episode so far, they omitted too many good stuffs to make up with faster pace :(

There should be development with Kodaka and Maria beforehand. On episode 4 we didn't know that Maria only eat potato chip all the time, and Kodaka know that she stocked so much after he decided to make her lunch box although he did mention it to Kobato but it felt too weak. And wasn't Maria suppose to dislike (or at least not respecting) Kodaka before he told her some jokes?

The change and additional scenes on Romancing Saga part is refreshing and it's a plus for me. Rika look more like Yuna from FF X-2 version and Maria join the party for real, as Index, lol. Though no "Believe in Yourself" spamming nor additional useless skills for Kodaka, no Warasubo's dying words, and no "Believe in Yourself" upgrade made it less funny. The same as when Yozora tricked Sena, it felt less funny, not because I have read the manga but I just felt it was plainly executed :\

But when Kobato came with Maria's character, speaking like her usual self but with Maria's voice, that was gold, especially when she got burnt when she mocking the king, that was the funniest scene for me on this episode.

The loli catfight was cute with they shouting their attack names. I like it too when Kobato scream "Aho aho aho" and the dialogue between Kobato, Maria, and Kodaka whether Kobato is Kodaka's little sister. But shame they used the "se-" joke for the next episode preview part :(

And they immediately go to Karaoke episode next week? Well can't say I like it, but oh well at least we will get this:
http://i.imgur.com/2AoqY.jpg

Rika is so much win :p

DragoonKain3

2011-11-04, 02:44

Romancing SaGa FOURTEEN? WTF, where's the other 11 that I have missed? (or even counting the original SaGas, Frontier, Unlimited, and Last Remnant, still 4 missing) Damn, I love that RPG series to bits, I want MOAR! XD

And going by the scene near the end, main 'enemy' girl for Yozora to watch out for Kodaka's heart is not Sena, but Rika? WTF lol.

Still find it ironic that they referenced OreImo when talking about Kobato, whose VA is the one who 'stole' the aniki from the imouto in that anime. :heh:

Jenesay

2011-11-04, 02:57

It feels like they were trying to fill this episode with way to much stuff and the result is very average. They are trying to move the plot way to fast forward for my liking and missed out on the really funniest parts imo. 6/10 for this ep and easily the weakest ep by a large margin.

relentlessflame

2011-11-04, 03:12

I find it curious that a number of the comments in the thread are saying that it was "better in the manga", which is an adaptation of the light novels. I am curious if it's the manga that enhanced the light novel content, or if it's just that the manga was more faithful to the light novel. Given that I haven't seen either, I guess I have no frame of reference, other than that I find it interesting that a large number of criticisms have been from those familiar with the earlier versions. It could also simply be that most of the viewers commenting around here know the manga (more manga readers than "anime-only" viewers on AnimeSuki for this show?).

(This isn't trying to say that there haven't been criticisms from anime-only viewers too. Just that there's a lot of "the manga was better".)

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-04, 03:14

I find it curious that a number of the comments in the thread are saying that it was "better in the manga", which is an adaptation of the light novels. I am curious if it's the manga that enhanced the light novel content, or if it's just that the manga was more faithful to the light novel. Given that I haven't seen either, I guess I have no frame of reference, other than that I find it interesting that a large number of criticisms have been from those familiar with the earlier versions. It could also simply be that most of the viewers commenting around here know the manga (more manga-readers than "anime-only" viewers on AnimeSuki for this show?).

(This isn't trying to say that there haven't been criticisms from anime-only viewers too. Just that there's a lot of "the manga was better".)

Very simply put, more people tend to read the Manga than the Light Novel ;):p

I myself started with the Manga first before moving on to the English translated Light Novels, followed by the Chinese translated Light Novels when that ran out of chapters.

Sumeragi

2011-11-04, 03:49

This picture seems appropriate.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_22628342.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/22628342.jpg)

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 03:58

The introduction shouldn't have weakened the group, but their way of rushing thing sure did make people think like that.

Given the manga has been around for a while, it's not surprise that most people know what is missed and what should have been there. I just hope anime-watching-only people don't think Kobato and Maria are just thrown in there because they need more loli in the show.

ZeKeR

2011-11-04, 04:04

That blacksmith Sena was talking about? Oh Archer... could you come here for a moment?

and inb4 Index parody....

also, I believe that Kobato is a girl that really has heterochromia. didnt note the contact thing.

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 04:16

and inb4 Index parody....

Too late :heh:.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/BokuTomo/th_boku-wa-tomodachi-ga-sukunai-episode-5-046.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/DSveno/Anime/BokuTomo/?action=view&current=boku-wa-tomodachi-ga-sukunai-episode-5-046.jpg)

LOL.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-04, 04:19

This picture seems appropriate.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_22628342.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/22628342.jpg)

I want one with Maria bonking Kobato on the head with her staff :p

Mahou

2011-11-04, 05:07

Ah, Romancing Saga. I only played part 3 and the PS2 remake, though :D.
@episode: Uhm ... it was okay-ish. The class description felt oddly familar. I cannot remember to have read the corresponding manga chapter as I ignored the manga so far. Kobato's evil speech and being roasted in return was one of the funniest things in this episode. The usual Yozora <-> Sena quarrel was boring in comparison to the Monster Hunter episode.
I found Maria actually quite nice with her onii-chan reaction when Kodaka gave her the lunch box. Seeing the full cupboard of potato chips seems like she did a tons of work for Yozora already (if it's 1 pack per task). Other than that? The "special effects" when Kobato switched to vampire-impersonating were done well. And Rika's happy expression when she's not in pervy-mode was lovely.
Though, the personal highlight for me was the end when Kobato sneaked in her onii-chan's bed. It was simply too cute. I don't have a straight imouto bias, but if it's done well I certainly will not complain.

mangatron

2011-11-04, 05:26

^-yeah, Kobato in a nightie was killer to my desires :heh:

And they immediately go to Karaoke episode next week? Well can't say I like it, but oh well at least we will get this:
http://i.imgur.com/2AoqY.jpg

Rika is so much win :p

So much win in this ep already, I liked this so much better:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p-2poO8hHfA/TrO89vxaAoI/AAAAAAAACNQ/MgBL3NrcNBg/s400/iwanttolicktheselegs.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p-2poO8hHfA/TrO89vxaAoI/AAAAAAAACNQ/MgBL3NrcNBg/s1600/iwanttolicktheselegs.jpg)
I WANT TO LICK THOSE DELICIOUS THIGHS :love::heh:

By the way, I will be laughing if the karaoke uses a bit of the OAD's scenes XD

relentlessflame

2011-11-04, 05:54

Very simply put, more people tend to read the Manga than the Light Novel ;):pWell, yes, that much seems clear. I guess to put my questions simply: 1) is the manga as good as the light novel in this part? Therefore 2) is the anime a less-effective re-telling/adaptation of novels than the manga was in this part? (Of course this is all opinion anyway.)

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 06:04

I'd say the manga does better in term of facial expression -> better comedy, but that maybe just me.
And it cover more stuff than the anime.

potchip

2011-11-04, 06:13

What's missing is the comedy. The anime is avoiding all facial expressing/emoticon and tried a 'straight up' bishoujo approach. Whilst the manga and LN took different approaches, with the manga using exaggerated facial expressions and LN with more Kodaka monologue/commentary do the same for comedic effect.

Personally liked this episode more than the 2nd one - the MH reference is obvious but there are just way more subtle references in ep 5. I'd have given up the anime overachieving on comedy so it doesn't upset me too much and the Maria/Kobato segment was executed pretty well. Still awaiting the debute of the fly swatter...

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-04, 06:40

Well, yes, that much seems clear. I guess to put my questions simply: 1) is the manga as good as the light novel in this part? Therefore 2) is the anime a less-effective re-telling/adaptation of novels than the manga was in this part? (Of course this is all opinion anyway.)

Well having seen all three medium, I would agree with Duo and say that the manga delivered the punchlines well with it's facial expressions and atmosphere. The Anime is not as expressive, but both of them lose out to the Light Novel in terms of contents and well... 'Censorship' :p

And like what potchip said, the LN follows the funny commentary route they we know from Kyon and the likes.

So I guess we know which one people prefer ;)

~Yami~

2011-11-04, 07:26

I see Index in there... hahaha... nice play... same VA and now same job in game

this is what we got from wrapping two chapters into one episode... they should do it separately...
well, the game and bento part is really good... Poor Wasurubo... they will live as EXP in us... lol

Kobato's introduction is the fail one.... I prefer if they put the preview in an actual episode... well, that's the funniest part actually.... but the fight between 'God's disciple' Vs 'Undead Vampire' and 'Meat' Vs 'Fox-witch' are still funny

anata wa imouto ga konna ni kawaii wake ga nai... xD
that 'aho' from Kobato really reminded me with Shiori.... yay!
welcome to the club, Kobato

they should put Kobato's answer about her age.... "I'm in second grade middle school"
the reaction is funny as well (in LN and manga)

7/10 from me.... the lowest rating for this anime so far... lol

Kanon

2011-11-04, 08:45

As opposed to quite a few people, I enjoyed the imouto antics more. The video game part is what was lacking for me. Not only did it decrease Kobato's screentime (which is unforgivable!! Although to be fair, I suppose it's my fault for assuming the episode would focus on her... then again, the reason I thought was because the preview only had her), it felt like a redux of the Monster hunter episode and the comedy wasn't all that funny. Yozora betraying Sena was so expected it fell flat, and the Warasubo had a good comedy potential they failed to capitalize on.

One thing I can't complain about regarding the video game segments is the outfits. Sena's in particular was great.

I was hoping Maria would grow on me, but since this episode made it clear she's a carbon copy of Index, it's doubtful I'm ever going to like her. At least it looks like her antagonistic relationship with Kobato will be almost as entertaining as Yozora and Sena's. I'll be rooting for Kobato and Sena to kick their asses.

Kobato's scenes didn't disappoint one bit. The final scene of the episode was really cute. Although I enjoyed her vampire persona, she's a lot cuter when she drops the act :)

konart

2011-11-04, 08:50

http://i.imgur.com/SMAEV.jpg

Did see this coming

Sides

2011-11-04, 09:01

Ok episode, the game console thing was quite funny, Largehard ^^, but the scenes in the game itself was boring, except for the wizard thing. Highlight was probably the childish fight Maria and Kobato were having.
Kobato looks much cuter without her contacts and costume, i have to say.

ZeKeR

2011-11-04, 09:29

http://i.imgur.com/SMAEV.jpg

Did see this coming

If Kirino comes in and slams the table with her fist "objection!" at a pic, brix will be shat.

Rethice

2011-11-04, 10:05

I lol'd at the Ore Imo reference.

My expectations for this episode was really low, as like many others I was dreading the introduction of the additional characters beyond Sena, Yozora and MC.

It's probably because my expectations were so low that this episode wasn't as bad as DemiSoda prepared me for.

Maria infuriates me to no end, Yukimura is unnecessary and shouldn't be there, and Kobato joining the club was a pointless addition. I liked her existing solely at home for their family moments.

That aside, Rika was pretty good in this episode, and Sena x Yozora shenanigans continued fairly well, and I did find myself feeling a bit warm and fuzzy when Kobato crawled into bed with MC. Family affection that isn't riddled with incestuous sexual tension always makes me "aww".

Overall, yeah it was the weakest episode, but my hope hasn't been dashed as quickly as I thought it would after introducing the rest of the girls. Now if they just dropped Maria and Yukimura, and sent Kobato back home, I'd probably be happy.

frubam

2011-11-04, 10:08

I think Maria vs Kobato is actually MORE enjoyable than Sena vs Yozora to be honest. The thing about Sena/Yozora is that Yozora typically gets the upper hand(the 5th ep, Sena actually gets her back evenly with the tickling thing). Maria and Kobato though seems to be straight even; both are 'polar opposites'(light/dark) of each other and the 'fighting' was balanced. In other words, it was tic-for-tac, which made it FAR more enjoyable than the Sena vs Yozora parts. I mean take "Spy vs Spy" for instance. Black Spy will sometimes screw over White Spy and vice-versa, but you never know who's going to 'win' until it happens. The moment Yozora mentions teaming up with Sena, I knew Yozora was going to screw her over :rolleyes:. I only hope that the story continues to balance who 'wins' and who 'loses' between the girl 'fights'.

Cosmic Eagle

2011-11-04, 10:17

AHHH...Kobato...My sweet Kobato...I love how sweet she is when referring to her An-chan...She easily wins the whole ep

And the ED sequence with Maria is pure LOL

so kobato wears a red contact? or did they just mess up and make both her eyes blue at the end there?

Her natural eye colour is sky blue from the mother.

Peanutbutter

2011-11-04, 10:20

Kinda felt like Kobato was kinda shafted in this episode.

Series so far still makes me wanna bite Sena's meat. :heh:

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 10:29

I think Maria vs Kobato is actually MORE enjoyable than Sena vs Yozora to be honest. The thing about Sena/Yozora is that Yozora typically gets the upper hand(the 5th ep, Sena actually gets her back evenly with the tickling thing).

Sena vs Yozora's true meaning is to gain popularity for Sena, actually. Most of the time it's one side bullying if you ask me.

Kobato and Maria is entertaining on their own level.

frubam

2011-11-04, 10:30

Kinda felt like Kobato was kinda shafted in this episode.

Series so far still makes me wanna bite Sena's meat. :heh:

Whoa there, I didn't know you had a futanari fetish :twitch:... Is that from some kind of doujin?

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 10:36

Whoa there, I didn't know you had a futanari fetish :twitch:... Is that from some kind of doujin?

Lolz?
I hope you didn't think Sena's meat as, well, meat stick :heh:.

Freeter

2011-11-04, 10:37

Haven't read the manga yet, but I enjoyed the episode. Kobato is adorable when she pouts over her clueless brother, and her spat with Maria was far more enjoyable than the usual Sena/Yozora antics (which are already growing tiresome).

The nods to rpg characters was a nice touch. LOLed hard at the Index parody.

Yukimura's pretty much the only real disappointment thus far. They should have gone with a more androgynous avatar instead of the obvious samurai joke, it would have made his(her?) scenes funnier.

If Kirino comes in and slams the table with her fist "objection!" at a pic, brix will be shat.

Doesn't she have an official Twiiter account? Someone find out what she posted, it's probably gold :heh: (and Kuroneko also, since she's an avid gamer)

frubam

2011-11-04, 10:42

Sena vs Yozora's true meaning is to gain popularity for Sena, actually. Most of the time it's one side bullying if you ask me.
I don't see how that's supposed to make Sena popular. If anything, it makes Yozora look like, as you say, a bully. I think Sena's non-Yozora moments are when she shines as a character.

Lolz?
I hope you didn't think Sena's meat as, well, meat stick :heh:.

I'm just calling it as I see it :uhoh:.

Teh_Ping

2011-11-04, 11:05

To wit, the OreImo reference was in the LN, (Haganai was published one year later).

You know, the Neighbor's Club aim to gain friends may not be working so well with two fights: Yozora vs Sena, Kobato vs Maria.

And to those who posted Rika like that, I guessed that was a 'toned down' version.

Utsuro no Hako

2011-11-04, 11:27

I find it curious that a number of the comments in the thread are saying that it was "better in the manga", which is an adaptation of the light novels. I am curious if it's the manga that enhanced the light novel content, or if it's just that the manga was more faithful to the light novel. Given that I haven't seen either, I guess I have no frame of reference, other than that I find it interesting that a large number of criticisms have been from those familiar with the earlier versions. It could also simply be that most of the viewers commenting around here know the manga (more manga readers than "anime-only" viewers on AnimeSuki for this show?).

Baka Tsuki doesn't have any of the novels fully translated yet (the last two chapters are missing from Volume 1 and there's one incomplete in the middle of 2). I'm sure I'm not the only one who's holding off until the whole thing's available and so can only compare to the manga.

This episode was definitely weak compared to the manga -- the Rozen Maiden gag was done much better, and the gag about killing innocent creatures for the XP was a much more pointed jab at RPG morality.

larethian

2011-11-04, 11:28

Most already mentioned this, but quoting Maria, the comedy was poop for the anime compared to the source. Someone already mentioned, the 'eels' dying lines were funny, and the "Believe in Tomorrow" spam :heh:, and others, well, can't remember all details. This is a pass-the-time episode for me. They skipped a number of chapters when the club only consists of Kodaka, Yozora, Sena, and Yukimura.

Baka Tsuki doesn't have any of the novels fully translated yet (the last two chapters are missing from Volume 1 and there's one incomplete in the middle of 2). I'm sure I'm not the only one who's holding off until the whole thing's available and so can only compare to the manga.

This episode was definitely weak compared to the manga -- the Rozen Maiden gag was done much better, and the gag about killing innocent creatures for the XP was a much more pointed jab at RPG morality.
The manga is faithful for those missing chapters, but the manga skipped a chapter after Momotaro chapter, and I suspect it's because of the outrageous words used by Yozora.

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 11:31

^ I'm curious. What is the word that's could be worse than
rape and bitch?

I don't see how that's supposed to make Sena popular. If anything, it makes Yozora look like, as you say, a bully. I think Sena's non-Yozora moments are when she shines as a character.

I still believe without Yozora, she won't get as much popularity as she is now. All the bullying actually makes she more honest with others (not like I want to see her being bullied anyway). Not to mention that "meat" nickname. I actually like her more when she giggle while mention the name "Meat".

Nvis

2011-11-04, 13:03

Also for a short period, I was like "omg they screwed up and gave Kobato 2 blue eyes". Some reason ima attatched to charaters with the different colour eyes fault, (call it eye complex as you will <.<) But I just had a friend tell me, it can be done by contacts... Which leaves me dissappointed in Kobatos eye colours being fake :'(

I'm also very disappointed.....to the point that now my full attention is on Sena-sama only. :love:

weaponX

2011-11-04, 13:21

Hmm, Ep 4 had a low ass and tis count. Only:

ass count Episode 4: 2*
tits count episode 4: 2
* and these two were of the loli nun.

For episode 5, it was a bit higher:

ass count Episode 5: 4
tits count episode 5: 5

Remember, my counts are very subjective. I could be missing ones others would count and vice versa.

It's another gaming episode. Kodaka is right, they might wanna give up gaming for a bit. It was funny the first episode they had it. This episode seemed kinda dull. Focusing on the two lolis might not be a good idea. They should focus back on Yozora and Sena, or RIKA!

Rika is pure win. They need more of her antics. Overall, still an enjoyable episode.

6.5/10

TakezoMusashi

2011-11-04, 13:54

Weak episode. All they did was play games again.

Sena's fanservice was pretty blatant. Putting her in that outfit, and that shot near the end of the episode where thay cut to her and the camera pans down to her chest for no reason.:eyebrow:

To Aru reference got a smile out of me.

Everybody was talking about how Kobato and Maria meeting was gonna be funny... and it wasn't.
It was just loud and annoying.

zarqu

2011-11-04, 14:21

A plain episode. A routine, so to speak.

This episode reinforced my dislike of the two lolis in this series. I don't expect them to say anything interesting, but their antics just don't appeal to me. It was nice seeing Kobato w/o contacts, though.

But my main gripe is with Kodaka. Why is he here? Does he have any opinions of his own, or is he just going to keep on reporting what's happening on screen? I get that he's the tsukkomi, but... I can't get over how overtly uninteresting and plain he is. He did show some fiery emotion in the pool episode, so there's hope.

Drinking game worked nicely. I managed to destroy 1,5 bottles (0,33cl) of beer.

What I'm hoping for: Sexier fanservice. Make it high quality, more suggestive. I hate fanservice that just is there for the sake of it. If you're going to do it, why not do it well? Also, more sitcom. Enough with the games and wizards. I agree that this is a westerner's perspective.

Dahak86

2011-11-04, 14:23

Sena's fanservice was pretty blatant. Putting her in that outfit, and that shot near the end of the episode where thay cut to her and the camera pans down to her chest for no reason.:eyebrow:

well, tbh, there is a reason. and we all know what it is :heh:
but yeah, not a big fan of fully covered bouncing boobs here. they seriously need to up the bar there, or stop it completely.

Sena's outfit on the other hand... :naughty:

ookamigirl

2011-11-04, 16:02

Maria was pretty cute ^^
Now they're all playing games LOL, guess that's Sena's influence ^^"
Their outfits were pretty interesting though.
Yozora was sure enjoying herself.
So little sister finally came to visit, but Maria didn't sit too well with her..

DragoZERO

2011-11-04, 16:04

Okay episode for me. It started good but more video games wasn't what I was looking for. Sena is awesome in every costume though, haha.

I do like how Yozara let Kobato in only because she was his sister.

ThereminVox

2011-11-04, 17:12

Seriously, Sena, at some point it stops being abuse and starts being your own stupid fault for listening to Yozora. Even my dog eventually figures out that every time he brings the stick back to me, I just throw it away again.

Malkuth

2011-11-04, 17:30

^ But isn't that the point (both for your dog and Sena), they want to have your attention in whatever way you give it to them (thrown stick or verbal abuse, respectively) :p

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-04, 18:42

^ I'm curious. What is the word that's could be worse than
rape and bitch?

Hmmm, probably-

Gang rape and pregnant.

:p

Everybody was talking about how Kobato and Maria meeting was gonna be funny... and it wasn't.
It was just loud and annoying.

Welcome to child care 101.

ion475

2011-11-04, 19:15

Sigh...after last episode, they decide to skip all the funny part in the middle of Vol. 2 and focus basically the whole episode on 1 chapter of novel (and combine it with part of another one...).

Not to mention, Kobato & Maria original encounter (in the novel) is just a lot funnier...

And Karaoke next episode already...means they're basically skipping every single bit of jokes that are in Vol. 2...(But then, AIC Build did the same thing to Oreimo, skipping all the fun part while extending some not very fun part for no reason...). I mean, no Kodaka lame jokes, no Yukimura discussion of Three Kingdoms, and probably no novel creation marathon (or relay...I don't know how to translate it) either = basically all the jokes that are in Vol. 2...

Okay, there's the Index parody (I did laugh...) and Oreimo reference (Too bad not enough Kobato = Kuroneko reference...), but that's about it...NEED...MOAR...RIKA!

DragoZERO

2011-11-04, 19:16

Okashira

2011-11-04, 19:45

Hmmm, probably-

Gang rape and pregnant.

Actually, I'm assuming that it wasn't exactly the words that she used the cause of that part being cut off, but more how often they showed up.

Basically, after the Momotaro play Yozora decides to write an original play for the club to interpret. It has nothing but rape, tragic comedy misery for Sena and stuff like that.

BTW, I wouldn't lose hope for the light novel relay chapter. I mean, they did changed the order of some events, and the relay uses all characters; and the missing ones only officially joined the club on this episode.

Shimapan

2011-11-04, 20:33

Anime only watcher here, an I found this episode seriously funny. Hell, I'll even say it was the best episode so far :D

When Kodaka got explained what a "wizard" is, I almost choked laughing *rofl*
His outfit and his role in the game were clearly reflecting his role in the club - useless XD

Sena's outfit was truly epic, and the other's outfits were pretty good as well.
Index reference with Maria was probably inevitable.
Speaking of references, this episode was littered with them. Romancing SaGa, Star Trek, OreImo... Then they used a PC Engine from Largehard. The game was just as buggy and half-assed as soft from the RL company with the micro and soft wieners, which also fails really hard.

Kodaka makes bentou for Maria to get closer to her, and she declares him his Onii-chan. Pedobear would be really proud of Kodaka :D
However, his actual imouto gets envious of Maria, appears in the club and the battle for Kodaka begins. Looks like we'll have another great pair-up besides Sena and Yozora now.

Stiletto

2011-11-04, 20:47

Master_Yoma

2011-11-04, 21:07

Maria look so cute sleeping on the couch and Kobato is just lonely

Malkuth

2011-11-04, 21:38

ion475

2011-11-04, 21:50

[mod edit: removed comment that referred to future novel content]

On side note with Kobato - I don't know...the more she appears the more I think Hanazawa Kana is not exactly the best voice for her, as much as she already voiced another Chuunibyou Goth-Loli...but then, Kobato had yet to have half a story around her, and I'm just not as big of a fan of her as I'm with Kuroneko...(Of course, this story having Meat and Rika doesn't help...)

Malkuth

2011-11-04, 21:55

^ I am judging from the anime, her manga chapters translated before the anime started, and skimming through the novel parts around her images, which can be very misleading.

Anyway, when I say dependent, I meant it in emotionally. It is extremely hard for many humans to cope when something they take for granted is suddenly lost, whether that is good or bad long term for them.

Teh_Ping

2011-11-04, 22:08

Then let's hope the novels all get translated!

Oi oi, how long do you think that would be:heh:

They introduced Kobato to the club in a different manner, which to me, was forced in this episode. Oh well, at least there's another rivalry.

~Yami~

2011-11-04, 22:11

Everybody was talking about how Kobato and Maria meeting was gonna be funny... and it wasn't.
It was just loud and annoying.

if you really want to see, just check the manga or LN....
I laughed a lot when I read the manga....
it's in chapter 15 I think

bakAnki

2011-11-04, 22:29

Very simply put, more people tend to read the Manga than the Light Novel ;):p

I myself started with the Manga first before moving on to the English translated Light Novels, followed by the Chinese translated Light Novels when that ran out of chapters.

True :heh:

It's the same on my case too. Hooked with the manga, then read the English translated light novel and finally read some spoiler/summary here and there ^^

So much win in this ep already, I liked this so much better:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p-2poO8hHfA/TrO89vxaAoI/AAAAAAAACNQ/MgBL3NrcNBg/s400/iwanttolicktheselegs.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p-2poO8hHfA/TrO89vxaAoI/AAAAAAAACNQ/MgBL3NrcNBg/s1600/iwanttolicktheselegs.jpg)
I WANT TO LICK THOSE DELICIOUS THIGHS :love::heh:

She already win when she shakes her hip on the OP XD

Well, yes, that much seems clear. I guess to put my questions simply: 1) is the manga as good as the light novel in this part? Therefore 2) is the anime a less-effective re-telling/adaptation of novels than the manga was in this part? (Of course this is all opinion anyway.)

Well, IIRC the manga also has some part omitted. Like on this episode for example, the manga didn't have the Hasegawa Cootie Touch part. But for me personally, although both manga and anime has its own plus points, the manga did better re-telling.

I'd say the manga does better in term of facial expression -> better comedy, but that maybe just me.
And it cover more stuff than the anime.

True. That and more comical detail/effect and approach, like Kobato's threat level point-of-view when she came to Rinjinbu or Sena and Rika's more clear reference to OreImo on this part
http://i.imgur.com/SMAEV.jpg
by imitating the infamous Kirino & Kyousuke pose :heh:

they should put Kobato's answer about her age.... "I'm in second grade middle school"
the reaction is funny as well (in LN and manga)

Ah, that was good part too. Who thought Kobato is one year younger than Kirino XD
And did they let two lolis fight on the chapel while the rest of them moved the game console back to Rika's room? :heh:

I don't see how that's supposed to make Sena popular. If anything, it makes Yozora look like, as you say, a bully. I think Sena's non-Yozora moments are when she shines as a character.

That makes Sena look more.... defenseless, imperfect, and more honest (makes her more tsundere though XD). The way she holds back not too cry when Yozora verbally abuse her, that just adorable XD

^ I'm curious. What is the word that's could be worse than
rape and bitch?

I'm also curious, they can say those two words but they censored "sex"? Or is it because it was Maria, a 10 year old girl, whom say it so they have to tone it down?

And Karaoke next episode already...means they're basically skipping every single bit of jokes that are in Vol. 2...(But then, AIC Build did the same thing to Oreimo, skipping all the fun part while extending some not very fun part for no reason...). I mean, no Kodaka lame jokes, no Yukimura discussion of Three Kingdoms, and probably no novel creation marathon (or relay...I don't know how to translate it) either = basically all the jokes that are in Vol. 2...

Looks like it. That fun/random activity part that show each member craziness was one of the reason I like Haganai in the first place :heh:
But since they did rearrange chapter orders, so there still hope for currently missed chapters. Story relay was one of the chapter I look forward the most on the anime :3

Btw, wasn't the discussion of Three Kingdom was with Maria? I remember because it was one of her flag that makes him more attached to Kodaka, beside the also-skipped lame joke part ^^

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-04, 22:29

I'm not sure about the lame joke become funny, but it does its job pretty well. I mean, after he told his joke, my reaction is exactly like Maria and Kobato. I couldn't laugh at his joke, and became face palm instead.

Seriously, Sena, at some point it stops being abuse and starts being your own stupid fault for listening to Yozora. Even my dog eventually figures out that every time he brings the stick back to me, I just throw it away again.

Erm....at that situation, you are forced to trust her, and there is no choice. I mean, even I think "Finally, a moment where they believe in each other?" when I read to that part, and there we go, history repeats once again.

There are times you can't help but want to trust your enemy, you know.

DragoZERO

2011-11-04, 22:32

Maria look so cute sleeping on the couch and Kobato is just lonelyI prefer her on the couch. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard sometimes.

Oi oi, how long do you think that would be:heh:

They introduced Kobato to the club in a different manner, which to me, was forced in this episode. Oh well, at least there's another rivalry.Well, they already have volume 1 chapters 10/12, volume 2 and 3 all done except for the afterword and 4+ is being worked on. :)

Rozen Van Kaizer

2011-11-04, 23:00

Maybe this is why people shouldn't advice about "oh this scene is gonna be epic" "Oh this will be this and that" "Oh I cant wait for this part"

This is kind of a spoiler because you are giving people expectations. Remember LN, Mangas, and/or Anime adaptations will mostly be different in so many ways that they might as well be 3 different stories with the same concept. Lets watch this as an Anime not the later 2. We have a thread for those. Pretend you never read the mange or LN, and lower your expectation by a lot cause you know, Animes are always, mostly crappy compared to their manga or LN counterpart.

Utsuro no Hako

2011-11-04, 23:58

And Karaoke next episode already...means they're basically skipping every single bit of jokes that are in Vol. 2...(But then, AIC Build did the same thing to Oreimo, skipping all the fun part while extending some not very fun part for no reason...). I mean, no Kodaka lame jokes, no Yukimura discussion of Three Kingdoms, and probably no novel creation marathon (or relay...I don't know how to translate it) either = basically all the jokes that are in Vol. 2...

All episodes so far have contained more than one chapter's worth of material, so I'm guessing we'll get at least one of those before the karaoke, and they could probably squeeze the first two in. And there's always the possibility that they'll hold something back for an OVA -- and the relay novel would be a prime candidate since it would benefit from an uncensored version.

Utsuro no Hako

2011-11-05, 00:05

Oi oi, how long do you think that would be:heh:

If we use screencaps from this episode to convince people that this is an Index spinoff ... lunchtime Sunday?

Duo Maxwell

2011-11-05, 00:27

Remember LN, Mangas, and/or Anime adaptations will mostly be different in so many ways that they might as well be 3 different stories with the same concept. Lets watch this as an Anime not the later 2. We have a thread for those. Pretend you never read the mange or LN, and lower your expectation by a lot cause you know, Animes are always, mostly crappy compared to their manga or LN counterpart.

Not always, but that's another thing to discuss. You probably didn't watch Gintama.

I don't see the problem with having higher expectation, at least in this thread. It's more like people who dissing Kobato and Maria, thinking it's a waste of time to introduce the two loli instead of focusing on Yozora and Sena is what bugs me the most. The reason we mentioned about the manga or LN is because there is a reason or merit to include those 2 loli into the club, but the anime fail to make it worth. Do you like to see your favorite characters get the end of the stick in anime adaption?

Maybe we should have thread for anime-watching-only-people and anime-watching-with-prior-knowledge-about-the-show people separately :rolleyes:.

zeniselv

2011-11-05, 00:40

All episodes so far have contained more than one chapter's worth of material, so I'm guessing we'll get at least one of those before the karaoke, and they could probably squeeze the first two in. And there's always the possibility that they'll hold something back for an OVA -- and the relay novel would be a prime candidate since it would benefit from an uncensored version.

i dont think the even an ova will be safe from mosaics...unless its a princess lover like ova.

larethian

2011-11-05, 09:27

^ I'm curious. What is the word that's could be worse than
rape and bitch?

I'm also curious, they can say those two words but they censored "sex"? Or is it because it was Maria, a 10 year old girl, whom say it so they have to tone it down?

reply in LN thread.

and btw, in the Maria debut chapter
Yozora made up a fictitious saint name that is the backward kana spelling of "Rape-suru"

Irenicus

2011-11-05, 10:42

I'm not hating on it as hard as you guys seem to be doing, but I have to agree it wasn't nearly as funny as it could be (they did leave out many of the best jokes). The choice to animate another game arc so soon after the first one was also...bad. I came into the episode expecting lots of Kobato and instead the show spent more than half of its time over a repeat of the Monster Hunter trip. :/

Don't get the Kobato hate personally though. She's adorable. <3

Don't get the Maria hate either. Maybe it's a good thing I haven't really watched Index, as I just associated all the bratty quality to her being actually 10 and a funny little girl, and not her being an expy of an apparently rather annoying moeblob of a nun.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-05, 10:46

If we use screencaps from this episode to convince people that this is an Index spinoff ... lunchtime Sunday?

Yea- No. It doesn't work that way >.>

Index is a special case because we had to sacrifice a different farm animal each month for the whole year to a Pagan Blood God to get him to translate all 30 odd books including side stories and oneshots within said year.

Maybe we should have thread for anime-watching-only-people and anime-watching-with-prior-knowledge-about-the-show people separately :rolleyes:.

Yeah, it's called the Spoilers & Speculation (for experienced [insert noun] only) threads :heh:

But seriously in the end, people just use the Light Novel thread for that :p

Malkuth

2011-11-05, 11:57

Don't get the Kobato hate personally though. She's adorable. <3

Me neither, I guess there are a lot of assumptions about her that identify her with rather annoying characters from other shows, and to tell the truth she really has way too few screentime :(

Don't get the Maria hate either. Maybe it's a good thing I haven't really watched Index, as I just associated all the bratty quality to her being actually 10 and a funny little girl, and not her being an expy of an apparently rather annoying moeblob of a nun.

I don't get also the Index-related hate... she hardly shows up in her show; and Maria despite being inspired by her, has quite some differences :uhoh:

ion475

2011-11-05, 12:22

I don't get also the Index-related hate... she hardly shows up in her show; and Maria despite being inspired by her, has quite some differences

It's just that Iguchi Yuka is too good at voicing annoying girls, that's all (Index, Maria, Maho from RKB, etc. and that's just from this 2 seasons...)

Me neither, I guess there are a lot of assumptions about her that identify her with rather annoying characters from other shows, and to tell the truth she really has way too few screentime

Agree. And I don't know how people can hate Kobato when she had appear in what? Total of 10 minutes (at most)?

Kaioshin Sama

2011-11-05, 14:45

I guess the moral of this episode is pay attention to your bizarre jail-bait little sister and you'll get to share the bed with her at the end of the day. :twitch:

This episode was pretty standard stuff of the kind I don't typically care for in these types of shows. The kind where the overall goal and result is something far from making me laugh out loud. Granted we're still able to laugh a bit at the characters eccentricities and personality short falls (or in the case of sister loli nun be annoyed by them) a bit here (mostly science chicks who so far is the best out of the added cast members in terms of contribution to the comedy) and they haven't started putting them on a pedestal to be worshiped as infallible moe idols quite yet like a lot of these shows have a bad habit of doing, but the groundwork is there and I hope the first four episodes weren't a red herring cause I've kind of been enjoying this show for it's willingness to not sacrifice the chance for good humor and poking fun at it's own cast for marketability of said cast to target buying audience.

Still as I've said I'm only on board with this show until I get bored with it and a few more episodes like this one would probably kill my interest in it. We just need to get back to the solid humor at the expense of the crazy characters a bit more and seriously less screen time for the Banshee please. Kobato is okay and can stay since I can totally see the potential for plenty of awesome gags at the expense of her obsession with that show, but whoever though that Maria and that casting choice for her was a good idea needs to be beaten severely. I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out what she's supposed to contribute to this ensemble other than being unbearably loud and annoying.

relentlessflame

2011-11-05, 15:28

whoever though that Maria and that casting choice for her was a good idea needs to be beaten severely.Do you think it's funny or cute to say that people deserve to be "beaten severely" for production decisions? Is that some sort of a "saying"? What the hell... :eyebrow:

I'm pretty sure that casting decision was obvious and easy, considering who the character closely resembles, and unless I'm mistaken, the character comes straight from the original source. You can say you don't like it without resorting to this sort of inappropriate attack, even if meant in a bizarre sort of jest. I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out why any civilized person would say that sort of thing.

Reckoner

2011-11-05, 16:08

Do you think it's funny or cute to say that people deserve to be "beaten severely" for production decisions? Is that some sort of a "saying"? What the hell... :eyebrow:

I seriously doubt he really meant that. Hyperbole is just that, exaggerating for emphasis. Perhaps you don't like this kind of hyperbole, but it's not like he's actually advocating to beat a person.

relentlessflame

2011-11-05, 16:44

I seriously doubt he really meant that. Hyperbole is just that, exaggerating for emphasis. Perhaps you don't like this kind of hyperbole, but it's not like he's actually advocating to beat a person.Oh, I see. So the problem isn't the hateful comment, it's the fact that "I don't like this kind of hyperbole". The kind of "hyperbole" that says that people deserve to beaten severely for minor production decisions. Because "he didn't really mean it." Right...

Let me make it clear: this sort of "hyperbole" is never permitted on this forum, in any context, ever. Any comments that imply, suggest, allude to, or in any way purport violence of any kind against any other person, whether intended, as "hyperbole", or in jest, are strictly forbidden. There is an endless supply of better ways to express an opinion.

And now back to your regularly-scheduled topic...

Kaioshin Sama

2011-11-05, 16:44

Do you think it's funny or cute to say that people deserve to be "beaten severely" for production decisions? Is that some sort of a "saying"? What the hell... :eyebrow:

I'm pretty sure that casting decision was obvious and easy, considering who the character closely resembles, and unless I'm mistaken, the character comes straight from the original source. You can say you don't like it without resorting to this sort of inappropriate attack, even if meant in a bizarre sort of jest. I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out why any civilized person would say that sort of thing.

I wish harm on the casting director the same way your average tsundere wishes harm on a main male character in a harem show when she beats on him for no real reason other than that he's there.

Also in-joke casting choices for shows I never saw a single episode of don't really make up for what I find to be annoying voice acting and characterization. Maybe it does prove that I'm inching into territory with a show that's out of my element again though.

Sheba

2011-11-05, 16:48

You know, when I saw Kobato and Maria doing those childish antics of nun vs vampire, memories of my childhood came back; when I was 7-8 y/o and roleplayed as Space Sherif Gavan with my siblings. I don't have a problem with the two lolis either and their child-like immaturity came as normal to me, not unbearingly childish, just enough. Perhaps I have grown weary of the too wise for their age archetype.

Archon_Wing

2011-11-05, 16:49

I wish harm on the casting director the same way your average tsundere wishes harm on a main male character in a harem show when she beats on him for no real reason other than that he's there.

Also in-joke casting choices for shows I never saw a single episode of don't really make up for what I find to be annoying voice acting and characterization. Maybe it does prove that I'm inching into territory with a show that's out of my element again though.

Well, I guess it wouldn't sound as funny as "I wish mild inconvenience on whoever did this, and hope he goes to the bathroom twice as much while having birds poop on his car every time he washes it"

It's nothing worse than anything this cast in this anime would say. :heh:

Sheba

2011-11-05, 16:50

It's nothing worse than anything this cast in this anime would say. :heh:

That clusterFbomb of insults Yozora unleashed over Sena in episode 3 is the finest example of this.

relentlessflame

2011-11-05, 16:50

I wish harm on the casting director the same way your average tsundere wishes harm on a main male character in a harem show when she beats on him for no real reason other than that he's there.Good try at being clever, but you are not a character in a fictional comedy. You are a real person making comments about other real people. You do not have that sort of privilege. Do not make that sort of comment again on this Forum.

Demi.

2011-11-05, 16:52

Sarcasm is bad, very bad! Remember that folks.

Irenicus

2011-11-05, 16:53

Me neither, I guess there are a lot of assumptions about her that identify her with rather annoying characters from other shows, and to tell the truth she really has way too few screentime
I totally agree that she has way too little screentime -- which was my problem with the episode basically. It's even made a little sadder because it parallels her own anxieties with An-chan, that he gives her too little "screentime." :heh:

It's nothing worse than anything this cast in this anime would say. :heh:
I really don't think it's a wise idea for a self-respecting forum to adopt the Yozora standard. :p She is, you know, kind of a troll.

Kaioshin Sama

2011-11-05, 16:53

Good try at being clever, but you are not a character in a fictional comedy. You are a real person making comments about other real people. You do not have that sort of privilege. Do not make that sort of comment again on this Forum.

Perhaps I will take the hidden third option and just not post in this particular sub-forum anymore since it seems to be a fairly sensitive one. I understand and it's no biggie really.

Archon_Wing

2011-11-05, 16:54

That clusterFbomb of insults Yozora unleashed over Sena in episode 3 is the finest example of this.
Walking cum dumpster!

Damn, that outclasses many a rap battle or modern pro wrestling shit talking fest. :p

I really don't think it's a wise idea for a self-respecting forum to adopt the Yozora standard. :p She is, you know, kind of a troll.
But so am ....

Oops. I get the point. I will not continue this matter. :)

Sheba

2011-11-05, 17:01

I really don't think it's a wise idea for a self-respecting forum to adopt the Yozora standard. :p She is, you know, kind of a troll.
Picking the clues from the former episodes, I am under the impression that she used to be something like a Bro, but having Kodaka leaving town ten years ago have made her a very very bitter individual.

Shimapan

2011-11-05, 19:32

Hahaha! The explanation was rather funny wasn't it? I was eating at the time so I choked up for an entirely different reason. "Are you a wizard?" Hahahaha!

Kodaka does have it rough though doesn't he? I'll believe in Kobato winning though. Because the ending was too sweet. "An-chan is my An-chan", if that didn't melt your heart you've got ice in your veins.

Yes, Kobato is very determined to keep her onii-chan to herself :D
Maria will have to think of something *good* there.

Malkuth

2011-11-05, 20:23

Good try at being clever, but you are not a character in a fictional comedy. You are a real person making comments about other real people. You do not have that sort of privilege. Do not make that sort of comment again on this Forum.

Why so serious :confused:

Sarcasm is bad, very bad! Remember that folks.

:eyebrow:

VC Matsumoto

2011-11-05, 22:31

When Rika's characture was in-game dying and she said,
"This Game is Unbalanced," was that a reference to
Kujibiki Unbalanced from the Genshiken anime?

VC

Archon_Wing

2011-11-05, 22:33

One of the most common excuses when one loses a video game is to claim the game was somehow poorly balanced meaning it was unfair to begin with. Sometimes it's actually true, often times it is not.

VC Matsumoto

2011-11-06, 01:51

Thanks AW! I thought I missed another reference to the
many made so far in this series to other anime.

VC

Haak

2011-11-06, 06:23

I don't get why people are saying Maria is annoying but then again I liked Index too so maybe it's just me. I like all the characters in this show really.

That Index reference was pretty funny though. I was watching this with a friend and he immediately got it as well.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-06, 06:33

Mahou

2011-11-06, 06:45

Maria's VA is personally not that bad. I can see why it's not liked by everyone, but I think there are worse ones (I remember the waves of tears regarding Atolie's englisch VA of .hack//G.U on the gamefaqs message board :D). At this point, it's not hard for most characters to be more likeable than Yozora in my case even though Trap-san didn't do so much where I can say "Yay" or "Nay" immediately. Still, I would keep Kobato as the imouto :p. Then again I found Maria kinda cute based on her happy reaction that Kodaka did treat her normally and friendly.

Hayamaneko

2011-11-06, 07:09

The only remotely thing funny about this episode was the whole Wizard gag. Oh and I suppose Kobato being all dere for her brother was cute

Fnights

2011-11-06, 07:22

Uhhh, they remove the Maria "secks" part, but reintroduced it in the preview at least to be less noticeable. Better than nothing. :D
Also they change the hug in the bed with Kobato into something less blatant. Lol. :D

Apart this still a good anime adaption.

speedyexpress48

2011-11-06, 14:12

One of the most common excuses when one loses a video game is to claim the game was somehow poorly balanced meaning it was unfair to begin with. Sometimes it's actually true, often times it is not.

Hey, I do that regularly when I lose a game:p

As for this game...well...not so sure.

Also, the Maria vs Kobato fight was pretty awesome to me, but I can see why people don't like it:heh:

Shimapan

2011-11-06, 19:32

Now the one this left is, Maria needs to start biting Kodaka's head whenever he pays attention to Kobato. That would make things perfect :D

blakstealth

2011-11-06, 19:40

Despite having the same VA, I like Maria more than Index. She isn't as annoying as Index was..yet.

GundamZZ

2011-11-07, 00:57

I have the same feeling about Index. When she's beating and deceiving Maria, I try to convince myself that she's abusing Index. Not Maria. It makes me feel much better. :)

The younger sister remind me two characters. Her cult fiction talk is like Ruri from Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai. Her personality is like Sora from Yosuga no Sora.

The story also used references from other sources. At least, it's popular. I think I gain the better comprehension to the story. The story goes this way because it sells. It is better to write a fan service novel than written a denpa novel(but award winning novel) that does not sell. Since the novel story is still serialized, it is self evidence that the formula is working.

Other ranting is the episode brings out the spirit of real life fulfillment(リア充). Characters are showing they are having fun from the real life(not on-line).

chaos_animagic

2011-11-07, 12:40

LOL.... wish I had those sisters too.... They make great pe... errr... I mean sis....

FateAnomaly

2011-11-07, 21:57

I am disppointed to know that Kobato is not really hemochromatic.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-11-07, 21:59

I am disppointed to know that Kobato is not really hemochromatic.

It could have been worse, at least you know she's his blood related sister...

...Probably.

Eisdrache

2011-11-08, 00:44

Dammit I hope I won't get banned if I ever make a post saying that the director of whatever show should burn in a fire :uhoh:

Her mother was English. Most likely her natural eye color is blue.

I'm disappoint. VERY disappoint. Her heterochromia was one of my main reasons to start watching this show and it turns out she uses contacts.

However she's is way too adorable so I will stick with the show :3

christinemarie

2011-11-08, 00:56

Now the one this left is, Maria needs to start biting Kodaka's head whenever he pays attention to Kobato. That would make things perfect :D

I would probably laugh if it happened, Index biting Touma is my photo avatar in animesuki since 2008.

It could have been worse, at least you know she's his blood related sister...

...Probably not.

Regarding Kobato
If she's 50/50, then she should have at least some of those Japanese genes which is not evident compared to Kodaka who is a half British-half Japanese. Both me and my sibling are 50/50 as well, but there is no distinction just like Kodaka.

So perhaps her mother is Kodaka's mother's best friend or rather far-away cousin and lied to Kodaka about it when she brought Kobato as a baby back to Japan since her real parents abandoned her or probably died or other circumstance. Maybe another reason why Kodaka hates his mother which is evident who is living abroad have something to do with Kobato's origin.