Licensed Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate (Love, Election, and Chocolate) [Archive]

relentlessflame

2011-11-27, 23:52

Per ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-27/love-election-and-chocolate-game-gets-tv-anime) and to be announced in the January 2012 issue of Dengeki G's magazine (streeting end-November 2011), the eroge "Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate" from brand sprite (http://sprite.gr.jp/) (website region-locked) will be getting an anime adaptation in 2012.

I had actually been suspecting this one for a while, given it's rather large marketing push in various ASCII MediaWorks magazines/properties.

The general premise is basically outlined in the ANN article. Yuki attends an elite private academy along with his childhood friend Chisato, and they along with some of their friends are part of a "Contemporary Food Club", which is really just a hangout where they eat snacks. But one day the leading student council president candidate, Satsuki, informs them that their club is pointless and going to be cut (along with a bunch of others) to reduce club expenses. In order to protect their club, Chisato convinces Yuki to run in the election himself. What follows is a romantic story intermixed with a heavy dose of High School politics.

This is a story where I think the theme and concept are stronger than any of the individual parts or routes, so I think it actually might be rather well-suited for an anime adaptation. Looking forward to it.

Here's the game OP/promo video:
nsSV8-B1Gnk

Midonin

2011-11-28, 00:07

The color palette's a little subdued for an eroge of my sort, but I'm not picky. Lots of good names in the voice cast, too. Asami Imai, Kaori Mizuhashi, Yuu Asakawa, Eriko Nakamura, Mai Kadowaki as the main heroines, a quick research jaunt tells me.

Marcus H.

2011-11-28, 00:14

I was initially surprised about what I discovered about the reception of this eroge.
From June to October 2010, Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate ranked three times in the top ten in national PC game pre-orders in Japan. The rankings were at No. 9 from June to August, No, 6 from August to September, and No. 4 from September to October. The game ranked four times in the top ten in terms of national sales of PC games in Japan. The rankings were at No. 1 for October 2010, No. 19 for November 2010, No. 33 for December 2010, and No. 48 for January 2011.

I guess this eroge is not just plain as it suggests.

Reckoner

2011-11-28, 00:30

I don't know how far the premise of this VN carries it, but it seems like it could be something enjoyable for me if the characters are good. I like the artstyle of the VN.

Brimstone

2011-11-28, 01:32

This one caught my eye a long time ago, I absolutely love the character designs :)

But in the end it all comes down to who's going to do it... Please be Manglobe again...

Kismet-chan

2011-11-28, 02:01

I like the character designs and the game OP/promo song is enjoyable to listen to (I know that doesn't have much to do with the anime itself, but I just felt like noting that I like it). The story sounds interesting enough. Will keep an eye on this.

winhlp32

2011-11-28, 07:24

This is one I heard lots about. The character design sure are gorgeous. "High school politics" reminds me of those American high school dramedy targeted at teens, but I'm pretty sure it wont be like that.

Will look forward to hearing what studio is adapting this.

Tempester

2011-11-28, 07:43

This VN has a gorgeous art style. But VN adaptations, especially for fluffy love stories like this, are usually very unambitious, with 12 episodes and a unified route with little or no romance. There's a chance that the art style won't carry over well into animation, especially if we get a sub-par animation studio. So I'll keep my expectations low.

johnishida

2011-11-28, 07:56

This is a pleasant surprise, the game was enjoyable for the most part so I'll be looking forward to the anime.

They will probably go with the canon Chisato route but, I have hopes for a Satsuki route instead since she ranked high in the getchu characters ranking last year. :D

As for the rest of the heroines, it should not be difficult to include the key parts of the other routes by adding some changes.

hyl

2011-11-28, 10:56

Let's hope the anime keeps some aspects of the gorgeous art animated (which i doubt, but i can hope)

Katapan

2011-11-28, 11:06

This seems to be an Aniplex production, judging from the results that came up when 2chers tried to look up who was behind the koichoco.com website. My memory might be failing me, but isn't this the first time they actually fund a TV series based on an eroge? They are probably placing quite a lot of hope into that title, then.

fertygo

2011-11-28, 11:19

^
We can hope (and I wish) we got A-1 then.

Utsuro no Hako

2011-11-28, 14:42

Here's the game OP/promo video:
nsSV8-B1Gnk

13-14 seconds in -- that's a popsicle, right?

relentlessflame

2011-11-28, 15:01

13-14 seconds in -- that's a popsicle, right?Yes -- they are a club where they eat snacks. But err... I never noticed that. :heh:

Micchi

2011-11-28, 17:35

A bit surprised about this, but maybe they can pull it off. Having played the game, I don't think it's that great, although it has its moments. I guess they'll go with the 'canon' route in Chisato and maybe spend a few eps to deal with other chars (like Isara... please!!).

Looking forward to yaoibou being the new craze...

Zexas

2011-11-28, 20:59

LOL they're making an anime out of this? :D

The VN strength lies on it's art and gorgeous music. I hope they kept it all intact because I'd love to see some scene to be animated with that lovely music in the background.

It's one of those VN where I found some people had a beef with the "main" heroine. Seriously I don't like chisato route at all - I found mifuyu route to be far superior. Like when Chisato and Yuuki kissing on the boat and then Mifuyu saw them. I thought she'd would smile for sure but instead she running away to hid her tears. - viva love triangle! -

relentlessflame

2011-11-28, 22:13

I created a game thread so that we game players can discuss plot details about the game (and speculation about the anime) without risking spoiling the plot for future anime-only viewers.

MisaoFan

2011-11-29, 10:23

Confirmed ! (http://www.koichoco.com/) It's a Aniplex production !

Kakkou

2011-11-29, 12:46

I really like the art style of the VN. It doesn't give me that "colourful but boring and uninspiring" impression I tend to get from VN art. If it translates well into animated form it might just push me closer towards trying it out.

Rayrah

2012-01-04, 17:02

I've also had my eye on this for a while, mainly because of the lovely visuals. I really hope the anime adaptation turns out to be good ~

AdamEndless9

2012-03-28, 05:16

New Info (source) (http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51871512.html):
Airs in July
Director: Toru Kitahata
Animation Director: Hiroaki Aida
Script: Katsuhiko Takayama
Music: Elements Garden
Animation Production: AIC Build
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/otanews/imgs/1/c/1c8442f9.jpg

MisaoFan

2012-03-28, 05:44

Reckoner

2012-03-28, 16:31

AIC? Well this just lost a lot of steam for me. They aren't going to handle this that well me thinks.

relentlessflame

2012-03-28, 17:36

AIC? Well this just lost a lot of steam for me. They aren't going to handle this that well me thinks.I don't think it's the studio that makes much of a difference here. AIC Build is just responsible for the animation, and they did a pretty good job on Oreimo and Haganai. I suppose if there's cause for concern, this will be the Director's first full production, though he has worked on a wide variety of shows over the years (everything The Big O to Haganai and KgNE). The lead writer is a pretty decent choice for this genre, having worked on ef, KgNE, and the more dramatic episodes of Shuffle. All in all, I think it's a pretty reasonable crew, and I think it has potential to be a decent romantic drama (with a good side of school life/politics).

Reckoner

2012-03-28, 17:52

I don't think it's the studio that makes much of a difference here. AIC Build is just responsible for the animation, and they did a pretty good job on Oreimo and Haganai. I suppose if there's cause for concern, this will be the Director's first full production, though he has worked on a wide variety of shows over the years (everything The Big O to Haganai and KgNE). The lead writer is a pretty decent choice for this genre, having worked on ef, KgNE, and the more dramatic episodes of Shuffle. All in all, I think it's a pretty reasonable crew, and I think it has potential to be a decent romantic drama (with a good side of school life/politics).

Well as far as animation goes, they were alright, though I felt Haganai suffered some quality issues in the later stretch. I was more concerned by the directers/writers they usually hire. The writer is more promising than the director at the very least.

I'm not saying it's going to suck or anything, but in the hands of a more attractive studio I'd be looking forward to it more... We'll see though.

Guardian Enzo

2012-03-28, 18:06

DragoZERO

2012-03-29, 12:35

relentlessflame

2012-03-29, 12:58

I wonder if they are going to do this omnibus like Yosuga no Sora.Obviously I don't know what they'll do for sure, but based on the original game and assuming this will be a one-cour show, I would bet on a linear route-merged adaptation in this case. It's a story that revolves a single event, so omnibus would mean a lot of repetition. I also think that merging the routes could add some additional tension/drama, and I expect that given the writer they have on board (again, his genre history: KgNE, ef, and Episodes 19 & 20 of Shuffle... almost nothing but drama).

DragoZERO

2012-03-29, 13:09

Mahou

2012-03-29, 13:13

Obviously I don't know what they'll do for sure, but based on the original game and assuming this will be a one-cour show, I would bet on a linear route-merged adaptation in this case. It's a story that revolves a single event, so omnibus would mean a lot of repetition. I also think that merging the routes could add some additional tension/drama, and I expect that given the writer they have on board (again, his genre history: KgNE, ef, and Episodes 19 & 20 of Shuffle... almost nothing but drama).

Ugh ... more drama than necessary should really not be included :heh: /is drama-damaged
As for merging character stories: This might work depending on which route they decide to focus on (if at all). Technically, Isara's plot points (without the romance) could work on any route due to the focus on the student president election. Satsuki maybe to venture into the matters between her sis and she.
Mifuyu? Please not. Drama overload/overkill :upset:
Michiru: No idea, her route was too confusing with my low-level jp. knowledge.

The animation visual does look good, imho. I will probably wait in which direction the anime goes once it starts in July before deciding whether to watch it or not.

Strangely, I had absolutely no problems with Ef's and most of Shuffle's drama. Heck, I loved Ef overall. /OT

relentlessflame

2012-03-29, 13:19

I think we'd have to go to the game thread to get into any specifics of how the story could be told and the routes could be merged, but I guess it was only to say that I really can't imagine omnibus in this case, even though that likely means they'll pick one route over the others. The only thing I hope is that they don't try to create an "every route" with no romantic ending, as that would just annoy me greatly. :p

Pocari_Sweat

2012-03-29, 19:47

This looks promising, good staff and I like the designs. Been a while since I've seen a good eroge adaptation too. I wonder if they are going to do this omnibus like Yosuga no Sora.

Still waiting for Devil on G-string, I'm amazed they haven't adapted that yet.

Pff. Sharin no Kuni first plz. That one is more overdue :p. But if we wanna go there, ever17 :3.

Anyways I like the art for now. AIC is a studio that I'm neutral with. Haganai was okay and Wandering son was fantastic. But they did Oreimo which was kinda bad.

Someone get Mari okada to adapt this and turn it into a pervy angst fest :p. /troll

AdamEndless9

2012-03-31, 06:09

A first look at the PV: -X4hYXm97vI

DragoZERO

2012-03-31, 08:04

That was a nice PV. The animation was solid and the music was pretty good.

Urgh... must keep expectations low...

MisaoFan

2012-03-31, 08:10

A first look at the PV: -X4hYXm97vI

While I keep my expectations so low to the series, I can expect that huge loads of drama will happen once it went to midway. :D After that, this would be AIC Build's first drama anime.

Valky

2012-04-01, 15:30

You can see the pv more clearly on their official website (http://www.koichoco.com/special/pv01.html).

I haven't play the game so I don't know what to expect, but from the way it looks .. it looks really good.

Summer .. will be a blast.

Pocari_Sweat

2012-04-01, 19:47

Daaamn. Those were some nice character designs. See that's how you do moe! Not frakken chipmunks.

Although the plot could still suck since its a VN adaptation and those don't have the best reputation for quality. Then again, Mashiro-iro Symphony was decent (although not excellent). I'll just expect that I'll watch this for da visuals Guilty Crown style :3.

Keeping expectations low.

Tempester

2012-04-21, 03:46

It looks pretty, sounds pretty, and has pretty girls. I'm watching it for the aesthetic orgasm.

http://i.imgur.com/6xpVw.jpg

boggart

2012-04-21, 06:56

Very surprised by the quality in the animation in that PV. I'll be keeping an eye out for this for sure.

karice67

2012-04-28, 08:00

Cast addition: Nakamura Yuuichi as Yuuki

...and so we have another eroge with You-kyan taking the lead role that wasn't voiced in the game...

source: yaraon

MisaoFan

2012-04-28, 08:12

Cast addition: Nakamura Yuuichi as Yuuki

...and so we have another eroge with You-kyan taking the lead role that wasn't voiced in the game...

source: yaraon

Nakamura is a nice choice for Yuuki, though I always expected Yoshitsugu Matsuoka to voice him.

Requiem-x

2012-04-28, 22:16

Hey there, I decided to check the manga out of curiosity, and wow, this is good stuff. I'm officially expecting this.

Also, I bring quite an interesting bit of info, more seiyuu announcements.

Chisato Sumiyoshi: Eriko Nakamura (Haruka in Im@s)
Mifuyu Kiba: Kaori Mizuhashi (Mami and Miyako, enough said)
Michiru Morishita: Asami Imai (Chihaya in Im@s, Kurisu in steins;gate)
Isara Aomi: Mai Kadowaki (SANYA:love:)
Satsuki Shinonome: Yuu Asakawa (Hibiki in amagami)
Oboro Yumeshima: Megumi Ogata (A certain Shinji Ikari himself)

That is one fine cast, and I must say that at least Chisato, Mifuyu and Satsuki got the perfect casting.

Midonin

2012-04-28, 22:45

Is it really an announcement when it's the same cast as the game? (With the pseudonyms removed, of course.)

Guardian Enzo

2012-04-29, 21:14

Wow, when was the last time Ogata Megumi had a major anime role? Feels like it's been a while. Angel Beats, I guess.

Mitsu Aoi

2012-04-30, 02:53

That PV is it Ceui or Eufonius I'm hearing?

if soo I'm already sold to watch it.

Edit: It certainly is Ceui <3

csuree

2012-05-01, 18:22

the anime is looking great from the preview...the manga is good also about how it will be?
From my experience in romance anime, it will not have a clear ending, the MC will have romantic moments with all the girl but it will be an open ending but i seriously cheer for chisato to become the girlfriend. she just stole my heart with her adorable personality.
I wish i understood japanese so i could play the VN.

hyl

2012-05-01, 18:40

GenjiChan

2012-05-02, 03:44

Romance and politics in an anime? nice!!!

csuree

2012-05-02, 13:51

The majority of the VN/eroge anime adaptations that i have seen do have a clear ending though.

can you give me some titles please, so i could confirm it myself.. I'm really interested, thanks in advance

maybe i just don't have enough experience with anime :P

but I'm sure looking forward for the anime it will be like mayo chiki! last year same "summer" period (a cool summer romantic story that I fell in love with. even thogh I already read some info about koi to senkyo to chocolate because it is a VN not like a "traditional" light novel like the before-mentioned anime it has numerous possibilities for an ending.

relentlessflame

2012-05-02, 14:35

can you give me some titles please, so i could confirm it myself.. I'm really interested, thanks in advance

maybe i just don't have enough experience with anime :PCheck out the Suggestions (http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15) forum, or make a new thread if you don't find a suitable one. I would agree, though, that the amount of visual novel-based anime with an open ending are actually pretty rare.

hyl

2012-05-02, 14:36

can you give me some titles please, so i could confirm it myself.. I'm really interested, thanks in advance

maybe i just don't have enough experience with anime :P

but I'm sure looking forward for the anime it will be like mayo chiki! last year same "summer" period (a cool summer romantic story that I fell in love with. even thogh I already read some info about koi to senkyo to chocolate because it is a VN not like a "traditional" light novel like the before-mentioned anime it has numerous possibilities for an ending.

I find it harder to find VN/eroge adaptations that did not go for a specific heroine, unless the anime has made major changes like not having the male main character in Koihime musou.
The most obvious choices with a clear ending are the key anime adaptions like Kanon, Air and Clannad.
Other examples that i can think of now would be: Mashiro iro Symphony, Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi, Da capo , h2o and in a way both Tsukihime and Fate/stay night.

csuree

2012-05-03, 20:17

I find it harder to find VN/eroge adaptations that did not go for a specific heroine, unless the anime has made major changes like not having the male main character in Koihime musou.
The most obvious choices with a clear ending are the key anime adaptions like Kanon, Air and Clannad.
Other examples that i can think of now would be: Mashiro iro Symphony, Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi, Da capo , h2o and in a way both Tsukihime and Fate/stay night.

thanks for the suggestions: i already watched Mashiro iro symphony, fate/stay night (read the manga and watched unlimited blade works) they were fine.
i also just finished AIR it is kinda sad that in the end bot of them died but it was a really heart-warming story, i had shivers and goosebumps at many parts. a happy ending would have been better i think.
the rest are going to be watched this weekend

about koi to senkyo: the manga is very sweet i think chisato is the best; her jealous moments or when she tries to seduce him or talk him out of relationships;
yuuki and chisato are the best couple there;
the rest of the girls i think a relationship with them are too forced

Fiemma

2012-05-04, 19:22

Twintail girl looks like Asuka

Ravenblitz

2012-05-05, 10:26

http://i.imgur.com/H3KyUl.jpg (http://imgur.com/H3KyU)

DragoZERO

2012-05-06, 13:49

Those are great character designs.

winhlp32

2012-05-17, 20:03

New key visual:
http://i.imgur.com/N3Pg2.jpg (http://imgur.com/N3Pg2)

OP by Annabel
ED by Ceui

http://www.koichoco.com/
The website also has a character page if you want to get a outline of what they're like.

totoum

2012-05-17, 20:23

OP by Annabel

While I'm not particularly hyped for the show itself but I'm now really looking forward to its OP , really glad to see Annabel get more work

Requiem-x

2012-05-17, 20:37

OP by Annabel
ED by Ceui

Annabel? as in Above your Hand Annabel? GLORIOUS

Wow, for a series so seemingly simple (I do like a lot what I've found out about the story so far, by the way) it sure is bringing out some serious voice power.

Last Ceui song I heard was last inferno, though, so the OP might take a while to process:heh:

relentlessflame

2012-05-17, 22:15

New key visual:This picture is a bit weird to me because all the cast are looking at the viewer, even though the protagonist is in the picture. Apparently we (the viewer in the picture) are popular with everyone. :heh:

Other than that, of course, I think it looks good.

Bonta Kun

2012-05-17, 22:39

Other than that, of course, I think it looks good.

That's wrong, it doesn't look good, it looks great!

Having only read the manga, I am looking forward to this.
Is a interesting and very amusing read so far.
The MC has his moments.

Shinonome Satsuki <3!

winhlp32

2012-05-18, 01:37

This picture is a bit weird to me because all the cast are looking at the viewer, even though the protagonist is in the picture. Apparently we (the viewer in the picture) are popular with everyone. :heh:

Other than that, of course, I think it looks good.

The protagonist is pointing at the viewer with a knowing glance, like "You. You're me. Got it?"

DragoZERO

2012-05-21, 20:30

I like the uniform designs. Seems distinguishing the bust area from the rest of the uniform is quite popular these days. Good thing. :cool:

Naoko Thunder

2012-05-23, 17:12

I've been anticipating this ever since I heard the news it was going to get an adaption, but that's mainly because I'll eat up almost any eroge anime adaption. It's definitely looking as though it could be a nice piece of work though.

I wish it could be aired in Fall instead of summer though, I have weird OCD about anime being aired in a different season from the season it's set in.

csuree

2012-05-24, 00:00

i curse my stupidness for not learning japanese when i was 16-17... then i could have played a truckload of Visual Novels.. but it is still not too late all i need is some time and perseverence.
anyway the anime looks very promising i hope to see some romantic moments with all the characters, but i'm rooting for childhood friend because of the title.

csuree

2012-06-02, 13:51

He has his moments and he doesn't look like a coward type character, he looks cool resolving those issues with everyone.

I really like those kind of charismatic boys who stand up for something they think its right. probably because i wasn't like that in school.

i was more like those coward types who just mumble all the time a girl talks to them, but unlike in the anime world i did not end up with a harem.....(dang)
looking back now i should have changed my attitude like how i am today(no problem with talking to girls, having a good social life)

[mod edit: removed some allusions to the game, just to play it safe] 1 more month 'til the anime arrives

Let's just wait for it,

Ravenblitz

2012-06-04, 19:48

http://i.imgur.com/GKuqvl.jpg (http://imgur.com/GKuqv)

Rayrah

2012-06-04, 19:53

http://i.imgur.com/GKuqvl.jpg (http://imgur.com/GKuqv)

Dat long black hair, and dem wide, alluring hips. God damn. o_o

I'd be happy if the MC ends up with either her, or the twin-tails in the anime. :3

Bonta Kun

2012-06-04, 21:17

Dat long black hair, and dem wide, alluring hips. God damn. o_o

I'd be happy if the MC ends up with either her, or the twin-tails in the anime. :3

For me this would be one of them times where I say the MC should go for the twin tails lass cause I want Satsuki for myself!

Totally love her character design, along with Yui from Muv-Luv summer is gonna be great!:D

Shadow5YA

2012-06-04, 21:41

Do we have an airing date yet?

Mura

2012-06-04, 21:44

Its says on that pic right there, July 5th.

Silvance

2012-06-05, 04:57

http://i.imgur.com/GKuqvl.jpg (http://imgur.com/GKuqv)

I've only read it for a bit, but I can't help, but cheer for her success in romance already. Damn those childbearing hips, and delicious legs. To think they can hypnotize me this bad. D:<

tsunade666

2012-06-05, 14:07

something interesting and an eroge adaptation. I will keep an eye for this and see if it will interest me but most of the vn adaptation interest me in the beginning but landslide in the middle and the end.

Malkuth

2012-06-07, 06:15

This one has the best character designs I have seen thus far for the coming summer. I hope it does not turn into another accidentally funny moe-bore-fest. Takayama Katsuhiko (series composition) has done several adaptions that I liked, but diverged from little to a lot from the source material which made him very unpopular with fanboys.

Anyway, here are some "safe for normal workplaces" images...

http://i.imgur.com/WPKuds.jpg (http://imgur.com/WPKud) http://i.imgur.com/btze3s.jpg (http://imgur.com/btze3) http://i.imgur.com/q6Ukks.jpg (http://imgur.com/q6Ukk) http://i.imgur.com/nBoHUs.jpg (http://imgur.com/nBoHU) http://i.imgur.com/RpT77s.jpg (http://imgur.com/RpT77) http://i.imgur.com/9dy6Ss.jpg (http://imgur.com/9dy6S) http://i.imgur.com/JfL9Ss.jpg (http://imgur.com/JfL9S) http://i.imgur.com/PukT3s.jpg (http://imgur.com/PukT3) http://i.imgur.com/Ir7Rls.jpg (http://imgur.com/Ir7Rl) http://i.imgur.com/YxrAZs.jpg (http://imgur.com/YxrAZ) http://i.imgur.com/8QUQis.jpg (http://imgur.com/8QUQi) http://i.imgur.com/8LwKIs.jpg (http://imgur.com/8LwKI) http://i.imgur.com/odVs8s.jpg (http://imgur.com/odVs8) http://i.imgur.com/5Y8V8s.jpg (http://imgur.com/5Y8V8) http://i.imgur.com/GPGn9s.jpg (http://imgur.com/GPGn9) http://i.imgur.com/pRAkXs.jpg (http://imgur.com/pRAkX) http://i.imgur.com/CEBwSs.jpg (http://imgur.com/CEBwS)

... and here those NSFW...

http://i.imgur.com/dqlqUs.jpg (http://imgur.com/dqlqU) http://i.imgur.com/BmkFCs.jpg (http://imgur.com/BmkFC) http://i.imgur.com/zPz99s.jpg (http://imgur.com/zPz99) http://i.imgur.com/Bm8dqs.jpg (http://imgur.com/Bm8dq) http://i.imgur.com/s2E6ss.jpg (http://imgur.com/s2E6s) http://i.imgur.com/LnILys.jpg (http://imgur.com/LnILy) http://i.imgur.com/LmF9ss.jpg (http://imgur.com/LmF9s)

... for the best ones, there is pixiv :D

Mahou

2012-06-07, 09:47

Nvis

2012-06-09, 23:40

Very interested in this, could be a winner.......:hyper-^v^:

Kismet-chan

2012-06-10, 20:12

http://i.imgur.com/SA5lHl.jpg (http://imgur.com/SA5lH)

Reckoner

2012-06-11, 21:45

Looking at the trailer for this I can't shake the feeling that the aesthetics aren't quite as appealing as those of the VN which are more water color based. That was part of the appeal for me coming into this so I guess that's a bit disappointing already. I don't trust AIC production values generally.

Ruby Princess

2012-06-11, 21:49

Cosmic Eagle

2012-06-15, 09:16

Ok, just read the manga....count me in...

Rayrah

2012-06-16, 14:42

http://i.imgur.com/SKAA2l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/SKAA2.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/GQMcpl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/GQMcp.jpg)

csuree

2012-06-17, 10:32

hmmm about the colors you are a bit right ....they should be a little bit more stronger, the skin the hair of the bright colored characters are pale;

//edit: in the preview and trailers there are monments when these are good, even exceptional, but not always// anyhow perfection does'nt exist!

the artwork differs a bit from the game, mostly around the eyes and hair, but for the untrained eye you can skip these,

off-topic:
(i hope Relentlessflame-senpai doesn't need to edit this post; sorry for the other ones i might got carried away and did not apologize and thanked you properly, so:
Sorry for the trouble caused, and thank you for correcting them.)
/offtopic end

even though these little "fails" i am waiting for it anxiosly (i will have a 2 week vacation around july 15th) so i will look forward for it.

Iron Maw

2012-06-18, 14:55

Been reading this for awhile and I liked what I saw. Surprised it's from a eroge though since the manga at least doesn't feel like one despite the large number of females.

Midonin

2012-06-18, 14:56

Surprised it's from a eroge though since the manga at least doesn't feel like one despite the large number of females.
"Eroge" is more an indicator of medium than of content.

hyl

2012-06-18, 15:01

Just see eroge as a visual novel but with some H-content in it. Some of them have suprisingly good stories though.

Iron Maw

2012-06-18, 15:05

"Eroge" is more an indicator of medium than of content.

I guess I will take your word for it.

Malkuth

2012-06-18, 15:34

eroge have pretty good stories (type-moon, chiral/nitro+)... yet I also didn't know... time for digging then the non-story part :D

Mahou

2012-06-19, 01:45

You usually won't encounter the ero-content during the prologue anyway. So that might be also why the manga didn't feel like an eroge :) That's not counting nukiges(?) and the usual exceptions to the rule :3. Whereas the harem situation is a given for most VNs (so that you can choose who to pursue).

Anyway, I'm quite fine with the artwork because I had to get used to the VN art in the beginning as well.

Cosmic Eagle

2012-06-19, 04:13

There's also a PSP port coming..

Shimapan

2012-06-19, 19:18

This looks pretty good so far :D
Oh, and I'm claiming Chisato, so you better get your grubby mitts off her :p

http://www.abload.de/img/koichoco-chisato-019587z.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=koichoco-chisato-019587z.jpg)

Debeki

2012-06-20, 08:19

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MisaoFan

2012-06-20, 08:29

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I liked this trailer ! Hope this show will mesh well between the classic highschool romance and the angsty teen drama ! Will look forward this one after all. :D

Mura

2012-06-20, 08:30

Art style feels very similar to Amagami, is this done by the same studio?

Iron Maw

2012-06-20, 08:57

The PV is pretty nice.:)

You usually won't encounter the ero-content during the prologue anyway. So that might be also why the manga didn't feel like an eroge :) That's not counting he gamenukiges(?) and the usual exceptions to the rule :3. Whereas the harem situation is a given for most VNs (so that you can choose who to pursue).

Anyway, I'm quite fine with the artwork because I had to get used to the VN art in the beginning as well.

Wait so you mean the manga isn't an adaption, but more a prequel to t?

Art style feels very similar to Amagami, is this done by the same studio?

Not exactly, seems to be some off-shoot of AIC called "AIC build".

Tempester

2012-06-20, 09:01

Art style feels very similar to Amagami, is this done by the same studio?

You know, you can easily check these kinds (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=11474) of things (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13810) for yourself instead of having people like Iron Maw and me do the work for you.

Mura

2012-06-20, 09:27

The PV is pretty nice.:)

Not exactly, seems to be some off-shoot of AIC called "AIC build".

I see, and they look to be rather new in terms of how many series they've done.

You know, you can easily check these kinds (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=11474) of things (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13810) for yourself instead of having people like Iron Maw and me do the work for you.

Sorry to have offended you, I'll keep that in mind in the future.

OPN

2012-06-20, 09:29

Eh art isn't nearly as good as the VN's and thats what made me interested in this to begin with well besides aniplex's involvement. Still going to watch it thought since the plot sounds good.

totoum

2012-06-20, 09:50

Not exactly, seems to be some off-shoot of AIC called "AIC build".

Not the same division of AIC but the animation chara design is the same person for both.

Iron Maw

2012-06-20, 11:10

Eh art isn't nearly as good as the VN's and thats what made me interested in this to begin with well besides aniplex's involvement. Still going to watch it thought since the plot sounds good.

I've stopped expecting an anime's art to ever match the source material even under the best circumstances long ago. Getting close enough is fine as far as I'm concerned.:heh:

Not the same division of AIC but the animation chara design is the same person for both.

Ah okay.

Mahou

2012-06-20, 11:21

The PV is pretty nice.:)
Wait so you mean the manga isn't an adaption, but more a prequel to t?

No, at least that wasn't my intention. Sorry if it sounded that way.
The manga is an adaption, but the 6.5 chapters released are still the beginning or part of the common route of the Visual Novel, hence my misusage of "prologue" :heh:

Requiem-x

2012-06-20, 12:39

Eh art isn't nearly as good

After checking the CGs, I'm 100% convinced even the best studio would need Hyoka's level of budget to achieve that kind of quality, get it in motion, and make it work.

[mod edit: removed game spoiler question -- you'll have to ask in a thread about the game]

Shadow5YA

2012-06-20, 13:45

Some artists have a very unique coloring style. For the eroge's style, I think it would be too much to expect it to be completely identical.

relentlessflame

2012-06-20, 16:31

Eh art isn't nearly as good as the VN's and thats what made me interested in this to begin with well besides aniplex's involvement.The visual novel had an interesting art style (particularly the color palette and colouring style), but to be honest the actual drawings themselves were a bit inconsistent in terms of the quality, anatomy, etc. I'm not sure how easy it would be to represent that art style accurately in anime. I think the art used for the anime is a pretty good compromise that looks pretty close to the game (at least to me), but will be easier to represent in motion... and that's basically the requirement for anime character designs. Looking nice in still shots is one thing, but motion is the point for anime.

By the way, for people who want to discuss the game or have questions about it, there already is a thread for it.

Flower

2012-06-20, 17:17

Hmm ... just watched the 90 second preview (the OP?) and was ... well ... charmed. It looks really good.

Hope it lives up to the pv. :D

Kaoru Chujo

2012-06-20, 19:14

Writer Takayama Katsuhiko has done several Silver Link shows (ef, Baka to Test, Natsu no Arashi, Tasogare Otome, as well as Mirai Nikki and Shaft's Natsu no Arashi). Director Kitahata Tooru is doing his first full show, but directed several eps each of OreImo and Haganai. Seems promising.

Pocari_Sweat

2012-06-21, 00:49

Compared to the initial PV with the Cieu song this CM made it look pretty awful and generic. Skirt flinging, jiggling breasts, lolis with >.< faces... ugh.

Will see when the actual show airs, but hopefully when it does, it's more align to what the first pv was like because that was miles ahead better than this.

Debeki

2012-06-29, 12:15

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Pocari_Sweat

2012-06-29, 12:23

Lolz, Okazaki VA as the main character of a harem anime once again. Where is dat punching bag (aka Sunohara) to go along with it?

Back to serious mode, new PV is meh, but better than the two CMs that I was actually disgusted at. Still, not really fond of the atmosphere portrayed. However, with the exception of gainax boobs for some of the female characters, the designs are really nice. Definitely better than Kokoro Connect's or Tari Tari's which seem to be the other big name slice of life's this season.

Guess I'll watch for dem visuals.

MisaoFan

2012-06-29, 12:26

Lolz, Okazaki VA as the main character of a harem anime once again. Where is dat punching bag (aka Sunohara) to go along with it?

Back to serious mode, new PV is meh, better than the two CMs that I was actually disgusted at. Still not really fond of the atmosphere portrayed. However, with the exception of gainax boobs for some of the female characters, the designs are really nice. Definitely better than Kokoro Connect's or Tari Tari's which seem to be the other big name slice of life's this season.

Guess I'll watch for dem visuals.

Hope that it will be lighthearted for a few episodes before degenerating into a big pile of teen angst drama.

Pocari_Sweat

2012-06-29, 12:29

Hope that it will be lighthearted for a few episodes before degenerating into a big pile of teen angst drama.

Someone doesn't like melodrama much either :p

But yeh, hopefully I can squeeze out as much eye-candy and luls if it indeed turns mediocre. But of course, if it somehow turns out to be decent throughout (like Mashi-iro Symphony was), then all the better.

Sorry for being pessmisitc folks :heh:

MisaoFan

2012-06-29, 12:34

According to the official website four main heroines of the upcoming fairys (the company behind KoiChoco) game Ima Sugu Onii-chan ni Imouto da tte Iitai! will serve as cameo characters in the anime.

OceanBlue

2012-06-29, 13:03

Pocari_Sweat

2012-06-29, 13:05

The PV makes everything a lot more energetic than I expected, and I didn't watch the prior PVs so I wasn't expecting the bounce at all :heh:. Otherwise, though, the production values look decent, and it looks like a fun friendship story and I love those. As far as harems or school life stories this summer go, I think I'm most excited for this one.

PV1:
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When I first saw this, I was quite impressed... unfortunately the CMs that followed this were rather terrible and the current second PV is kinda meh.

OceanBlue

2012-06-29, 13:13

PV1:
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When I first saw this, I was quite impressed... unfortunately the CMs that followed this were rather terrible and this second PV was kinda meh.
Actually, I think I remember this one. That might be why I didn't expect such an energetic trailer. Eufonius makes everything mellow. As for the CMs, I don't think I'll watch them after hearing that :heh:.

What did you see in this first trailer that impressed you so much, by the way? Other than the change in mood, it seems like it's just introducing the characters to me. If I look past the song in the second trailer, I feel like I got a better sense of how the pacing in each scene will go.

Pocari_Sweat

2012-06-29, 13:16

Actually, I think I remember this one. That might be why I didn't expect such an energetic trailer. Eufonius makes everything mellow. As for the CMs, I don't think I'll watch them after hearing that :heh:.

It's actually Cieu :p

What did you see in this first trailer that impressed you so much, by the way? Other than the change in mood, it seems like it's just introducing the characters to me. If I look past the song in the second trailer, I feel like I got a better sense of how the pacing in each scene will go.

Hmm... well the 2nd PV still had the Gainax boob factor (oversized and jiggling), which by default makes me want to facepalm whenever it comes up in anime :heh:. Secondly, some of the voices aren't what I personally wanted. Like Isara Aomi's character... really don't like that high-pitched kouhei kind of voice.

Guess some things are left better for imagination. :heh:

OceanBlue

2012-06-29, 13:29

It's actually Cieu :p

Hmm... well the 2nd PV still had the Gainax boob factor, which by default makes me want to facepalm whenever it comes up in anime :heh:. Secondly, some of the voices aren't what I personally wanted. Like Isara Aomi's character... really really don't like that high-pitched kouhei kind of voice.

Guess some things are left better for imagination. :heh:
Dang, I always mix up Ceui and Eufonius... :(

Yeah, I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of the boob bounce either. I understand its place in fanservice anime, but I guess I don't see the appeal of it in series like this. We can only hope it isn't used too often, I guess.

For some reason, now that you've brought up her voice and I've rewatched the scene, I can't help but think of Ayu from Kanon :heh:.

D-KLAC

2012-07-01, 00:29

Pocari_Sweat

2012-07-01, 00:33

For some reason, now that you've brought up her voice and I've rewatched the scene, I can't help but think of Ayu from Kanon :heh:.

Haha, you're so right. Particularly at the fact both characters bump into the MC and make him fall over. Though the exception is, I don't recall Ayu having boobs :heh:.

MisaoFan

2012-07-01, 01:15

really really really ok then all we like expy/shout out to clannad with hey another sunohara clone ok then i'm in just how many eps will it be?

I will hope for 12 episodes !

Kismet-chan

2012-07-01, 09:22

The animation in that 2nd PV is disappointing. :/ The char designs also look pretty meh.

Mazryonh

2012-07-01, 09:45

Unless the Amagami or Yosuga no Sora format is going to be used, I don't think Yuu Asakawa's character (Satsuki) is going to "win." She already played a winning heroine earlier this year in the anime adaptation of Majikoi.

DragoonKain3

2012-07-01, 21:40

Well, just playing devil's advocate here but...
...Satsuki's biggest rival, Chitose, has her VA playing the winning heroine the last time she was in a VA adaptation.

So yeah, it all boils down again to three options that VN adaptations usually go through. They are...

1) the canon route, or what people consider as 'more canon' than the other heroine routes (be it because she's the cover girl or whatnot). From what I hear, it's Chitose because of something pertaining to chocolate, but don't quote me on that

2) the fan favourite route. Option 1 happens more often, but option 2 is happening with greater frequency

3) harem route, whether it would be the tenchi muyo style with no clear winner, or everyone wins.

I personally am rooting for 1 for obvious reasons, but I have dreaded feeling that option 2 is going to happen because I have heard that Satsuki's following dwarfs every other heroines. :heh:

Marcus H.

2012-07-01, 21:52

Saw Katsuhiko Takayama among the staff, and because I enjoyed Tasogare Otome × Amnesia, then this should be a good watch as well.

I don't mind the boob-jiggling, actually. Remember that their very uniform actually pushes up the breasts of the girls, so it should be no surprise.

Mazryonh

2012-07-02, 05:39

So yeah, it all boils down again to three options that VN adaptations usually go through. They are...

1) the canon route, or what people consider as 'more canon' than the other heroine routes (be it because she's the cover girl or whatnot). From what I hear, it's Chitose because of something pertaining to chocolate, but don't quote me on that

2) the fan favourite route. Option 1 happens more often, but option 2 is happening with greater frequency

3) harem route, whether it would be the tenchi muyo style with no clear winner, or everyone wins.

I personally am rooting for 1 for obvious reasons, but I have dreaded feeling that option 2 is going to happen because I have heard that Satsuki's following dwarfs every other heroines. :heh:

Wasn't there another eroge adaptation recently, the one for Mashiro-iro Symphony, where the "winning" heroine came out of left field? Or was that one really the most popular among the fans?

What I'd prefer for 12 episodes would be for the series to focus on the two most popular heroines first, being Chitose and Satsuki, then tying up the others in another series or BD-only episodes.

hyl

2012-07-02, 05:56

Wasn't there another eroge adaptation recently, the one for Mashiro-iro Symphony, where the "winning" heroine came out of left field? Or was that one really the most popular among the fans?
Miu wasn't considered to be the main heroine of Mashiro iro Symphony ( that VN never had a true route, so you can't even say which story is more canon than the others though) , but she did end up being the 2nd most popular character in the 2nd character polls.

What I'd prefer for 12 episodes would be for the series to focus on the two most popular heroines first, being Chitose and Satsuki, then tying up the others in another series or BD-only episodes.
I have my doubts about this idea, because making episodes are rather costly. If they had the budget and time to bother making extra episodes, why wouldn't they air it in the first place?

Shadow5YA

2012-07-02, 07:02

I have my doubts about this idea, because making episodes are rather costly. If they had the budget and time to bother making extra episodes, why wouldn't they air it in the first place?

Studios do it because they don't have the time and money to get it on air in the first place. Take Bakemonogatari or P4.

hyl

2012-07-02, 07:18

Studios do it because they don't have the time and money to get it on air in the first place. Take Bakemonogatari or P4.

So what does this have to do with the BD extras? Seeing that the studios are already paying for the timeslots to air their animes on the tv stations in the first place.

Also extra episodes are mostly viable on shows that are 100% sure that they will be succesfull, Seeing that the most recent eroge adaptations besides Yosuga no Sora (which surprised some that it had high sales) did fairly poorly, I have my doubts that they are already counting on a succes for this adaptation.
The only thing that they are sure to count on is that this anime will likely promote the upcoming all ages VN "Ima Sugu Onii-chan ni Imouto da tte Iitai!" and the psp port of koichoco just like that the Mashiro iro Symphony anime promoted the Mutsu no Hana psp game(eventhough that game was released slightly before the anime)

Mazryonh

2012-07-02, 21:12

Also extra episodes are mostly viable on shows that are 100% sure that they will be successful, Seeing that the most recent eroge adaptations besides Yosuga no Sora (which surprised some that it had high sales) did fairly poorly, I have my doubts that they are already counting on a success for this adaptation.

What, Majikoi's anime adaptation didn't do too well? Even with all the vocal talent in the show and game?

And if Yosuga no Sora did so well, I'm still at a loss as to why that team isn't behind another eroge adaptation (Moshiraba from Palette would have been great), or even just animating the Haruka na Sora fandisc routes.

The only thing that they are sure to count on is that this anime will likely promote the upcoming all ages VN "Ima Sugu Onii-chan ni Imouto da tte Iitai!" and the psp port of koichoco just like that the Mashiro iro Symphony anime promoted the Mutsu no Hana psp game(even though that game was released slightly before the anime)

Then I'm amazed that Yosuga no Sora's anime adaptation was even green-lighted, given how reliant it was on taboo themes (and how the team "maximized the action and satisfaction"). YnS wasn't likely going to get an all-ages adaptation in the first place. At least the team made it so that all the fans of the main game were satisfied, rather than a "canon" route that neglects the majority of the fans. At least if KoiChoco does an adaptation with episodes split among the most popular heroines being wooed and "won" by the protagonist, they'll satisfy twice as many fans as opposed to a typical canon route.

Still, I'm looking forward to Kaori Mizuhashi's performance in this series. She was such a riot as Kokoro Fushikawa in Majikoi.

Iron Maw

2012-07-02, 21:24

I personally am rooting for 1 for obvious reasons, but I have dreaded feeling that option 2 is going to happen because I have heard that Satsuki's following dwarfs every other heroines. :heh:

As it should if there's any justice, sorry man. :p

relentlessflame

2012-07-02, 22:02

Then I'm amazed that Yosuga no Sora's anime adaptation was even green-lighted, given how reliant it was on taboo themes (and how the team "maximized the action and satisfaction"). YnS wasn't likely going to get an all-ages adaptation in the first place. At least the team made it so that all the fans of the main game were satisfied, rather than a "canon" route that neglects the majority of the fans. At least if KoiChoco does an adaptation with episodes split among the most popular heroines being wooed and "won" by the protagonist, they'll satisfy twice as many fans as opposed to a typical canon route. I think that detailed discussion of this point would require spoilers that should be discussed in the game thread, but I can say that -- as you can see from the plot synopsis and trailer -- this is a story that revolves around a central fixed timeline that is external to the characters (i.e. "the election"). So any sort of split or branching setup is highly unlikely here, as there would just be way too much repetition and retread ground that wouldn't make for a good anime (even with a YnS type setup). I think you should expect them to merge as much as possible from the various routes into a single timeline, as I'd say with pretty high confidence that that's the most logical format for this story.

DragoonKain3

2012-07-02, 22:18

As it should if there's any justice, sorry man. :p
Damn you for crushing my hopes and dreams! ;)

Regardless, Chitose FTW! Victory will be ever more sweet because it looked quite bleak. :heh:

tsunade666

2012-07-02, 22:41

I think you should expect them to merge as much as possible from the various routes into a single timeline, as I'd say with pretty high confidence that that's the most logical format for this story.

Then this setting will be the same as other animated VN games. Every girl in one single swoop.

I will watch this one as well :cool: (if I had time)

Bonta Kun

2012-07-03, 07:36

Damn you for crushing my hopes and dreams! ;)

Regardless, Chitose FTW! Victory will be ever more sweet because it looked quite bleak. :heh:

I like the all the girls here but yea really they can't beat Satsuki:D, she's simply just <3 and I fully expect the studio to take note that she is so loved. This would be one of them times where I have a pairing I want to see happen no matter what.

...unless we go the Amagami route which then all the girls win!:D

Problem solved!

Iron Maw

2012-07-03, 19:35

I like Chitose too, I just find Satsuki closer to my tastes. :)

Rayrah

2012-07-03, 19:40

http://i.imgur.com/EQ37ol.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/EQ37o.jpg)

I'd be happy to see the MC end up with either Chitose or Satsuki.

Chaos2Frozen

2012-07-03, 20:01

http://i.imgur.com/EQ37ol.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/EQ37o.jpg)

I'd be happy to see the MC end up with either Chitose or Satsuki.

Most people would be clustered around those two... Throw in catgirl Michiru as the third most popular.

...Though, I feel that Mifuyu have the best HCG scenes based on what I've found so far... You know... Just saying... >.>

relentlessflame

2012-07-03, 22:07

...Though, I feel that Mifuyu have the best HCG scenes based on what I've found so far... You know... Just saying... >.>Judging a heroine based on their HCG without even knowing the context/story behind it? :heh: (Then again, I've little interest in HCGs unless I know the story that goes with it, so everyone's different...)

I will be curious to see how people's preferences change after the anime starts airing, if at all. I am assuming that a lot of the preferences so far are just based on character designs, story outlines, or maybe the manga(s).

Cosmic Eagle

2012-07-03, 22:56

Most people would be clustered around those two... Throw in catgirl Michiru as the third most popular.

You know if one idn't know otherwise, judging by the how prominent she is you'd think Michiru is the main girl...

relentlessflame

2012-07-03, 23:04

You know if one idn't know otherwise, judging by the how prominent she is you'd think Michiru is the main girl...She was a very popular character in the game, and has her own spin-off manga (SLC), so I expect she will have a fairly big role in the anime as well (in part to help direct people to that manga).

Shadow5YA

2012-07-03, 23:24

It's obvious that Chisato and Satsuki are probably the main heroines, but Chisato being the childhood friend has me worried that she'll get friendzoned badly.

Chaos2Frozen

2012-07-03, 23:29

Judging a heroine based on their HCG without even knowing the context/story behind it? :heh: (Then again, I've little interest in HCGs unless I know the story that goes with it, so everyone's different...)

I'm sure that's not the worst way you've heard of :p

But just saying... I had slightly higher expectations from Chitose or Satsuki's HCG... >.>

Oh, Michiru's another good one... If you're into that kind of thing...

I will be curious to see how people's preferences change after the anime starts airing, if at all. I am assuming that a lot of the preferences so far are just based on character designs, story outlines, or maybe the manga(s).

Everybody knows that Character Design equals Personality :eyespin: !

You know if one idn't know otherwise, judging by the how prominent she is you'd think Michiru is the main girl...

Yeah, when I first came across the VN, I had a hard time figuring out who the main heroine was- Chitose, Satsuki or Michiru :heh: Given how all three were featured equally prominent... The other two... Not so much...

Kismet-chan

2012-07-04, 03:24

Click to enlarge:
http://i.imgur.com/U94gZl.jpg (http://imgur.com/U94gZ)

http://i.imgur.com/DRn8ol.jpg (http://imgur.com/DRn8o)

Cosmic Eagle

2012-07-04, 06:37

She was a very popular character in the game, and has her own spin-off manga (SLC), so I expect she will have a fairly big role in the anime as well (in part to help direct people to that manga).

Stray Little Cat? I read that not knowing it was a spin off....

Waiting for the PSP port for the main storyline...

DragoonKain3

2012-07-04, 07:12

...unless we go the Amagami route which then all the girls win!:D
Anything but that, please! Yes I'd rather have childhood friends lose than go omnibus. Just kills all the romantic conflict, as knowing everyone is going to win removes the need to root for someone (ie. the very definition of shipping).

It's obvious that Chisato and Satsuki are probably the main heroines, but Chisato being the childhood friend has me worried that she'll get friendzoned badly.
If that's your only worry, then you should be optimistic rather than pessimitic about Chisato's chances. I need to double check my 2011 list, but its something like on the order of 4 losses in around 24 series for when childhood friend appears in it just from last year.

Which reminds me, I really need to update my thread, but so much to do and not enough free time. :(

Candyshark

2012-07-04, 07:38

Even blad animation and generic plot won't stop me from enjoying Yuu, Kaori, Mingosu, Mai and Nakamurax2. Just from VA i'm totally inclined towards Satsuki and Mifuyu. Will see hopefully there will be a pleasant surprise.

GenjiChan

2012-07-04, 07:40

Iron Maw

2012-07-04, 08:07

It's obvious that Chisato and Satsuki are probably the main heroines, but Chisato being the childhood friend has me worried that she'll get friendzoned badly.

This happens far more often to the "other" girl actually rather than the childhood friend.

Anything but that, please! Yes I'd rather have childhood friends lose than go omnibus. Just kills all the romantic conflict, as knowing everyone is going to win removes the need to root for someone (ie. the very definition of shipping).

An All or nothing guy huh?:heh:

I don't think this is the type of show/VN to go for that sort of thing anyway.

Shadow5YA

2012-07-04, 08:18

If that's your only worry, then you should be optimistic rather than pessimitic about Chisato's chances. I need to double check my 2011 list, but its something like on the order of 4 losses in around 24 series for when childhood friend appears in it just from last year.

Maybe the only anime I've watched were the ones where the childhood friend loses. I'd ask you to list me the 24, but I think that'd be off-topic.

I suppose reading the manga adaptation didn't help my fear either, because in the early chapters, it felt like Oojima thought Chisato was a nuisance and he just happened to be stuck with her. I don't know how it progresses since not much of it is scanlated, so maybe it does change.

Candyshark

2012-07-04, 09:45

Btw is there an all-age version? Since on the radio they often get character "admiration" letters from fans. They definetely can't talk about rated stuff.

hyl

2012-07-04, 09:47

Btw is there an all-age version? Since on the radio they often get character "admiration" letters from fans. They definetely can talk about rated stuff.

The not yet released psp port is an all ages version.

Candyshark

2012-07-04, 10:35

relentlessflame

2012-07-04, 13:48

Btw is there an all-age version? Since on the radio they often get character "admiration" letters from fans. They definetely can't talk about rated stuff.
Well, I think there's a sort of tongue-in-cheek thing going on there, but keep in mind that there are also the two manga series currently out, so some of the fans of the characters could come from that too. At the very least, that could be the excuse that they use if they really needed one. Still, knowing they kept the same voices as the original game is actually a good marketing point as well, even though they can't admit it outright, so they play this little game.

DragoonKain3

2012-07-04, 17:28

Maybe the only anime I've watched were the ones where the childhood friend loses. I'd ask you to list me the 24, but I think that'd be off-topic.
If you're fine with my rough list...

2011
o Dragon Crisis
= Starry Sky (note: omnibus, don't count it as win anymore!)
x Gosick
? Fafner: Heaven and Earth movie (note: still can't find english copy. get to it ASAP!)
o Infinite Stratos
o Yumekui Merry (note: both LIs childhood friend)
= Onii-chan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janaindakara ne!! (note: imouto is non-related, so there's two osananajimi)
= Kimi ni Todoke 2
= TP Sakura
x Fortune Arterial OVA
o Macross F movie 2
x Kampfer 2 (note: manga ended with loss, so count series as loss even if anime is draw)
x Steins Gate
? Dog Days (note: so far NO indication Becky a childhood friend, go see s2 for more clues)
o Nana to Kaoru OVA
o Shukufuku no Campanella OVA
o Hana-Saku Iroha
o Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
= Maria Holic Alive
x Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi
o AnoHana
o Deadman Wonderland
= Moshidora
o Katteni Kaizou OVA
= Asobi ni Ikuyo OVA
= Ikoku Meiro no Croisee
x Kami-sama Dolls
o Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai OVA
o Sora no Otoshimono movie
= Ro kyuu bu
o FMA movie
o Mawaru Penguin drum
= Nurarhiyon no Mago 2
o Sacred Seven
o Baka Test 2
= No 6 (note: childhood friend died, protagonist didn't end up with anyone though)
? Usagi Drop (note: undecided if uncle is childhood friend, see C3)
o Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi
o Dantalian no Shoka (note: both possible LIs known since child)
o Tales of Symphonia OVA
? Bakuman 2 (note: still undecided if Azuki childhood friend)
= C3 (note: show-proclaimed childhood friend is like hundreds of years old... precedent for much older people qualifying as childhood friend too?)
x Fate/Zero
o Horizon
o Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!!
= Phi brain
= Ben-Tou
o Chihayafuru (note: both LIs are childhood friend)
o Maken-Ki
x Mashiro-iro Symphony (note: wtf, supposedly imouto is non-related? wasn't even implied in anime >_>)
o Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
o Gundam Age
o Guilty Crown (note: Mana accepted Gai in the end... even if they did both die)
? Sora no Kiseki OVA (note: don't touch till you play the second game!)
? Scryed movie (note: no subs)
o Itsuka Tenma OVA
o Infinite Stratos OVA
o Major World Series OVA
If you count all shows shows (series, movies, ova) then: 8 losses, 30 wins, 14 draws, 6 unknown
If only tv series: 7 losses, 19 wins, 12 draws, 3 unknownPardon the notes, and pardon the lack of couple names. I'm still working on it for this year and the year before last; once done it will be much more clear and I'd post it in my thread. And if you did't get it already, o win, x loss, = draw, ? unknown.

Cosmic Eagle

2012-07-04, 19:28

than pretty wierd that they mention how certain character is popular. It is pretty much admitting you voiced adult version. Listening to radio episode with Mai right now. Have to admit her normal voice kind of make your brain melt...Maybe I should review my character poll.

Most eroge usually keep their same staff over all versions of it. So it's not surprising and is at least tacitly implied.

Besides, R-rated or not, game is still the game everything came from. Can't stop fans now no?

Iron Maw

2012-07-04, 19:58

If you're fine with my rough list...

2011
o Dragon Crisis
= Starry Sky (note: omnibus, don't count it as win anymore!)
x Gosick
? Fafner: Heaven and Earth movie (note: still can't find english copy. get to it ASAP!)
o Infinite Stratos
o Yumekui Merry (note: both LIs childhood friend)
= Onii-chan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janaindakara ne!! (note: imouto is non-related, so there's two osananajimi)
= Kimi ni Todoke 2
= TP Sakura
x Fortune Arterial OVA
o Macross F movie 2
x Kampfer 2 (note: manga ended with loss, so count series as loss even if anime is draw)
x Steins Gate
? Dog Days (note: so far NO indication Becky a childhood friend, go see s2 for more clues)
o Nana to Kaoru OVA
o Shukufuku no Campanella OVA
o Hana-Saku Iroha
o Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
= Maria Holic Alive
x Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi
o AnoHana
o Deadman Wonderland
= Moshidora
o Katteni Kaizou OVA
= Asobi ni Ikuyo OVA
= Ikoku Meiro no Croisee
x Kami-sama Dolls
o Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai OVA
o Sora no Otoshimono movie
= Ro kyuu bu
o FMA movie
o Mawaru Penguin drum
= Nurarhiyon no Mago 2
o Sacred Seven
o Baka Test 2
= No 6 (note: childhood friend died, protagonist didn't end up with anyone though)
? Usagi Drop (note: undecided if uncle is childhood friend, see C3)
o Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi
o Dantalian no Shoka (note: both possible LIs known since child)
o Tales of Symphonia OVA
? Bakuman 2 (note: still undecided if Azuki childhood friend)
= C3 (note: show-proclaimed childhood friend is like hundreds of years old... precedent for much older people qualifying as childhood friend too?)
x Fate/Zero
o Horizon
o Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!!
= Phi brain
= Ben-Tou
o Chihayafuru (note: both LIs are childhood friend)
o Maken-Ki
x Mashiro-iro Symphony (note: wtf, supposedly imouto is non-related? wasn't even implied in anime >_>)
o Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
o Gundam Age
o Guilty Crown (note: Mana accepted Gai in the end... even if they did both die)
? Sora no Kiseki OVA (note: don't touch till you play the second game!)
? Scryed movie (note: no subs)
o Itsuka Tenma OVA
o Infinite Stratos OVA
o Major World Series OVA
If you count all shows shows (series, movies, ova) then: 8 losses, 30 wins, 14 draws, 6 unknown
If only tv series: 7 losses, 19 wins, 12 draws, 3 unknownPardon the notes, and pardon the lack of couple names. I'm still working on it for this year and the year before last; once done it will be much more clear and I'd post it in my thread. And if you did't get it already, o win, x loss, = draw, ? unknown.

So if anything, Chitose has higher chance to win because these manga/anime/VN etc, typically favor the childhood friend as pointed out earlier. Shuffle is probably only time I've seen one lose, and that was pretty blindsiding when it happened.

Flower

2012-07-04, 20:01

Rassa frassa. After reading over the thread it looks like the two girls who caught my eye in the pv are the least mentioned to be "in the running": i.e. Michiru and Isara. When it comes to these adaptations I always seem to invest in the ones that lose. :heh:

Hmm ... guess I like Michiru the most at first glance, while knowing nothing whatsoever about the original source at all. :\

AmeNoJaku

2012-07-04, 20:33

That list is very fishy, for example the childhood friend in Horizon is a replica or something of the deceased childhood friend

In Haganai (at least to the point I know) there has been no resolution... same for Ben-tou, IS, Baka Test and a couple more. There are also some plain mistakes, for example in Penguin Drum, both MCs die instead of entering a romantic relationship

Finally, LOL@AnoHana, since all the damn cast were childhood friends :eyespin:

In games, there are multiple routes, but in anime/manga the usual is that the childhood friend loses, as happens IRL too... but there are exception (Bible Black ,Nana to Kaoru), only to verify the rule.

Shadow5YA

2012-07-04, 21:31

If you're fine with my rough list...

2011
o Dragon Crisis
= Starry Sky (note: omnibus, don't count it as win anymore!)
x Gosick
? Fafner: Heaven and Earth movie (note: still can't find english copy. get to it ASAP!)
o Infinite Stratos
o Yumekui Merry (note: both LIs childhood friend)
= Onii-chan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janaindakara ne!! (note: imouto is non-related, so there's two osananajimi)
= Kimi ni Todoke 2
= TP Sakura
x Fortune Arterial OVA
o Macross F movie 2
x Kampfer 2 (note: manga ended with loss, so count series as loss even if anime is draw)
x Steins Gate
? Dog Days (note: so far NO indication Becky a childhood friend, go see s2 for more clues)
o Nana to Kaoru OVA
o Shukufuku no Campanella OVA
o Hana-Saku Iroha
o Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
= Maria Holic Alive
x Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi
o AnoHana
o Deadman Wonderland
= Moshidora
o Katteni Kaizou OVA
= Asobi ni Ikuyo OVA
= Ikoku Meiro no Croisee
x Kami-sama Dolls
o Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai OVA
o Sora no Otoshimono movie
= Ro kyuu bu
o FMA movie
o Mawaru Penguin drum
= Nurarhiyon no Mago 2
o Sacred Seven
o Baka Test 2
= No 6 (note: childhood friend died, protagonist didn't end up with anyone though)
? Usagi Drop (note: undecided if uncle is childhood friend, see C3)
o Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi
o Dantalian no Shoka (note: both possible LIs known since child)
o Tales of Symphonia OVA
? Bakuman 2 (note: still undecided if Azuki childhood friend)
= C3 (note: show-proclaimed childhood friend is like hundreds of years old... precedent for much older people qualifying as childhood friend too?)
x Fate/Zero
o Horizon
o Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!!
= Phi brain
= Ben-Tou
o Chihayafuru (note: both LIs are childhood friend)
o Maken-Ki
x Mashiro-iro Symphony (note: wtf, supposedly imouto is non-related? wasn't even implied in anime >_>)
o Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
o Gundam Age
o Guilty Crown (note: Mana accepted Gai in the end... even if they did both die)
? Sora no Kiseki OVA (note: don't touch till you play the second game!)
? Scryed movie (note: no subs)
o Itsuka Tenma OVA
o Infinite Stratos OVA
o Major World Series OVA
If you count all shows shows (series, movies, ova) then: 8 losses, 30 wins, 14 draws, 6 unknown
If only tv series: 7 losses, 19 wins, 12 draws, 3 unknownPardon the notes, and pardon the lack of couple names. I'm still working on it for this year and the year before last; once done it will be much more clear and I'd post it in my thread. And if you did't get it already, o win, x loss, = draw, ? unknown.

Eh... your evaluation on some of those series is somewhat inaccurate.

- Ano Hana does not count, considering the entire main cast was made of childhood friends.
- Sora no Otoshimono does not count; the series is inconclusive on the romance front.
- Guilty Crown is more of a loss, because Hare lost against Inori.
- Infinite Stratos is the same as Sora no Otoshimono: in the canon, there is no "end couple" yet.
- The same goes for Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai: inconclusive. As far as I know, it's still Yozora vs Sena.
I've give you Tales of Symphonia OVA, because while the you can influence who will be your closest companion by the end of the game, Colette is still the closest girl to Lloyd by default.

I think the track record of animanga isn't as clear cut as you seem to make it.

MisaoFan

2012-07-05, 13:05

Yuki Oojima is a average highschooler who, alongside with his childhood friend Chisato Sumiyoshi, go together at Takafuji High School where it consists of more than 6000 students. They work together with their friends at cooking club just for fun. However, Satsuki Shinonome, the student council president, must suppress the unnecessary club activities. To protect the cooking club from danger, Yuki must joint in the election as a opposant. While technically being an harem, KoiChoco contains election subplot and some J-drama antics (especially the beginning) and the character-design looks adorable and delicious. The only downside is the little annoying censorship, but that's it. I liked the lighthearted premise, and I'm looking forward to see how the drama will be depicted further on.

Midonin

2012-07-05, 13:15

The cold open was... really out of whack with what I was going into the show expecting. I'm certain it's foreshadowing for something down the line that will cause me to type shorter paragraphs, but the rest of the show was far more in whack with what I was expecting. The student body is noticeably quirky, and when it comes to clubs, the Food Club has to be one of the biggest I've seen in an anime (at the outset). Your average club has four or five members. This one has, like, ten. Mostly premise-setting-up in this episode, but I enjoyed it. The world's got a vibrancy to it, in spite of the somewhat subdued color scheme. I think all the candy helps.

Characters - Likeable, quirky, pretty good chemistry
Concepts - The premise is nice.
Comedy - Present and active, and I hope it doesn't decrease too much as the show goes on.

Good first episode.

Merry

2012-07-05, 14:18

The animation to this show reminds me of something ridiculously low budget... Which is disappointing, because the original art and magazine scans look very nice. The characters' movements remind me of something that is not from 2011-2012. Bleh...

As for the plot, I'm willing to give this show up to about 3-5 episodes to see if it gets any better.

Reckoner

2012-07-05, 14:20

^

I haven't seen it yet but if what you say is true, it's just as I feared. Once I knew AIC was behind this I knew the production values would be incredibly mediocre. The VN art looks sooooooooo much better.

Kaoru Chujo

2012-07-05, 16:22

A good enough start, but I preferred today's other harem show, Kono naka ni Hitori, Imouto ga Iru. The unexpectedly hard opening was interesting. I adored the background in the very first shot. Couldn't help liking the club room, lol. Nakamura Yuuichi good, but not as striking as in Natsuyuki Rendez-vous. OP by Annabel good. ED by Ceui excellent.I didn't think the animation was that bad. Not the best, but not the worst, either. Just rather ordinary. "Mediocre" might indeed be the best word.

Candyshark

2012-07-05, 17:18

Main char has some wierd delusions. Good enough for starting episode. Good they didn't waste time to get flustering moments with girls but rather established plot and some chemistry within club. Funny how this animu and Naka Imouto has same moments how girl makes the pain go away. This one handled it much better.

serenade_beta

2012-07-05, 19:39

Typical eroge vs. Typical harem light novel, Start!
*watches both*

Eh well, the eroge was less painful to watch. The character designs aren't that good and I don't sense the aura that came from Mashiro-iro Symphony, but it could get better (not hopeful though). Too typical to comment on though, other than that it was............ typical................. and I wouldn't suggest eating a SD Card.
Also, :heh: at the stupid censoring. Blinding light. In the meantime, the light novel used dark matter.

sapper

2012-07-05, 22:48

ok just what the fuck was that at the beggining? it looked like a horror anime then turned into happiness? you just cant do that without an explenation wtf?

Midonin

2012-07-05, 22:50

ok just what the fuck was that at the beggining? it looked like a horror anime then turned into happiness? you just cant do that without an explenation wtf?
They were separated by an opening sequence. That works for me.

Chaos2Frozen

2012-07-05, 23:51

As far as Visual Novel Anime Adaptations goes- this certainly counts as one of the more 'intriguing' Introductory Episodes I've seen :eyespin: It's like this mix of tradition, something new, and crazy...

P.S - The characters all sound much different than I had imagined from their design :heh:

P.P.S - It's like no guy has woken up on time... Like, EVER.

P.P.P.S - ...Yaoi stick huh... :uhoh:

ipodi

2012-07-06, 00:13

Sad to see that Annabel has ventured into the J-Pop genre. Hey, I get it - man gots to eat. But this OP from Annabel is definitely a notch below her previous works.

Kaoru Chujo

2012-07-06, 00:38

ok just what the fuck was that at the beggining? it looked like a horror anime then turned into happiness? you just cant do that without an explenation wtf?They hit us in the face with the fact that under the playfulness, there is some serious business going on. The scene in the grandiose council chamber gave the same unpleasant feeling, as did the handouts of money-coupons. And the hospital room scene was striking, too. So that scene at the beginning was not out of place, in my opinion, but important to the whole structure of the show. And it was better that they left it there unexplained, because it gave some force to the story. We are meant to want to keep watching to find out what's going on.

Master Assassin

2012-07-06, 01:40

I feel like the only thing that gives me the most impression for this episode is Yume and his... um, Yaoi-sticks.

novalysis

2012-07-06, 01:54

They hit us in the face with the fact that under the playfulness, there is some serious business going on. The scene in the grandiose council chamber gave the same unpleasant feeling, as did the handouts of money-coupons. And the hospital room scene was striking, too. So that scene at the beginning was not out of place, in my opinion, but important to the whole structure of the show. And it was better that they left it there unexplained, because it gave some force to the story. We are meant to want to keep watching to find out what's going on.

It depends on whether the opening scene is indicative of something else, more uniquely interesting going on in the back ground.

Else this would be a typical Harem Adaptation, except with a "generic" competent lead instead of a spineless wish fulfillment moron.

But yes. I'm seeing those political undercurrents, but it remains to be seen how prominent and how boldly would they run with the political aspects of the premise.

Is this Political Commentary disguised as Eroge? If they live up to this premise, as seen in the opening scene, Love, Election and Chocolate might leap above and distinguish itself above the host of other Harem Rom-Com Eroges of the past decade.

Sadly, if I'm going to be pessimistic here, it might be a show of a unique premise, but betrayed by shoddy writing and the inability to break above the inherent limitations of the Harem genre.

P.s: It's the opening scene that made the most impression on me. It looked like something out from a completely different genre altogether.

RegalStar

2012-07-06, 02:55

This is something I'll definitely have to withhold judgment on until a few episodes down, I think.

Haak

2012-07-06, 05:18

Wow, this show is cruel. First it tricks me into thinking Kanae Itou is in this show, then it forces me to watch a cute girl get brutally run over, and then throws almost every trope off a typical harem first episode, right at me.

And yet I'm somewhat intrigued by the more mysterious and possibly political/activist elements. The yoai stick guy is pretty funny. And the cat girl is just awesome.

I'll also wait until I've watched a few more episodes before deciding whether to keep of watching. Hopefully the animation will improve by then too...

Shadow5YA

2012-07-06, 06:56

Ugh, does this episode really have that annoying censoring? If so, I'll have to decline on watching this show until the BDs come out.

Pocari_Sweat

2012-07-06, 07:24

Ok... I'm going to be blunt. Although I was not expecting something amazing by any means, I did expect something something that would be somewhat pleasant to watch. Mashiro-iro Symphony taught me that occassionaly an eroge or VN adaptation can be decent to watch, plus Koichoco had some very nice art. But what did we get? Every single harem cliche in the book with the most caveman fanservice... that was also largely censored nonetheless. Another "Buy the Blurays" trick! Yay!

There was one thing I did like though, and that was the Cieu ED song. Guess I'll just grab that when it comes out...

Would I be going over the top if I drop this right now? Because I have a feeling it's not gonna get better... maybe someone else can help me here. First episodes may not always be amazing, but this was just revolting.

D-KLAC

2012-07-06, 08:24

oh my look this more to it something mix of all in it from drama, harem, comedy, main guy got same voice as Tomoya Okazaki, sweets, fun, big JUGS, a teacher drink beer with big cup, etc so much.

it also got a conspiracy with hit-run doing adding also rid of evidience memory chip like take a potato chip & EAT IT!!!

yet also chocolate http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/359/c/3/did_you_say_Chocolate__by_MegansAmazingArt.jpg

hmm stick with it to see what else to expect?

Cosmic Eagle

2012-07-06, 09:16

Lol Mieru is voiced by Sakakibara Yui? Nice.

Ceui ED is great as usual.

I think overall this will be my favorite show this season that isn't called Horizon II or Accel World if it keeps going like that. Something good to relax to.

ookamigirl

2012-07-06, 09:43

This anime looks very interesting and fun too.
There are a lot of girls, but the guys aren't bad either.
The whole "yaoi stick" chocolate snack thing was ROFL
Looks like chocolate & sweets aren't the only thing that's going on.
Attack incident from the beginning of the episodes looked promising.
Disbanding clubs and the election sure gave them something to be fired up about.
Will give this one a try.

DragoonKain3

2012-07-06, 11:32

Woot! Much love for Chisato this episode. But really Chisato, you were straddling him just moments before and you're surprised he has 'woken' up? :heh:

It's weird it had a grim start though, as I expected this to be light hearted through and through. And WTF was that play in the middle of the street?

So disappointed though that Chisato's aversion to choco is not from trauma stemming from a previous event with the protagonist, where she made him choco and he said it was terrible (think today in clad 5-2). No, it seems that choco guy is dead, due to her saying "I'm going now" to the picture before seeing the progatonist. Wonder, is it her older brother or something? Can't wait to find out.

And excellent! Satsuki screen time isn't too much... YET. XD

@AmenoJaku
That list is very fishy, for example the childhood friend in Horizon is a replica or something of the deceased childhood friend
Uhh... P-01s IS Horizon just in another body (did you see the second to the last episode?). I'm lost to everything about the show, but that one I know is for sure.

In Haganai (at least to the point I know) there has been no resolution... same for Ben-tou, IS, Baka Test and a couple more.
I count when they're MAJORLY implying that they are going to get together, even if they haven't got together yet. Haganai/IS has their respective childhood friends be the major focus of their endings, while Bakatest pretty much has Yuuji/Shouko a done deal.

Unless of course, you want me to take out say, Kami-sama Dolls out of the losses, of which majorly implies Kayanon's character officially getting together with the protagonist but isn't quite there yet? I personally don't mind, as I know if I take the ABSOLUTE events (nothing implied) that occured in the anime , the percentage win is roughly the same (30 wins out of 38 = 79%; compared to 27 wins out of 34 = 79% if you take out kamisama from losses, and bakatest/is/haganai from wins)

While we're at it with the ABSOLUTE events that occured in the anime, how about I not count Fortune Arterial because there wasn't even any kiss in the original series? Can I also take out Mashiro-iro Symphony from the loss because they never definitely (or even implied at that) that Sakuno was not related to the progaonist? Can I also take out Kampfer from losses because the anime has no resolution at all?

Because really, cherry picking which anime I considered as implied wins and ignoring the anime I considered as implied losses would be a double standard.

For the record, I counted Ben-tou as draw.

There are also some plain mistakes, for example in Penguin Drum, both MCs die instead of entering a romantic relationship
You're missing Tabuki-Sensei and Yuri, who do get together in the end.

Finally, LOL@AnoHana, since all the damn cast were childhood friends :eyespin:
So what's wrong with that? The question I ask is "Which anime have opposite gender childhood friends get together or are implied to get together? Which anime don't?"

Besides, if you really want to be technical, a non-childhood friend (multiple ones IIRC, though only one gave a letter to Tsuruko to pass it on) was pursuing cross-dresser guy. Sure she was a side-character, but need I remind you many times anime has the childhood friend also a side-character with next to no chance of winning? Believe me, I've got a list. :heh:

In games, there are multiple routes, but in anime/manga the usual is that the childhood friend loses, as happens IRL too... but there are exception (Bible Black ,Nana to Kaoru), only to verify the rule.
I have presented evidence that childhood friend wins more often than not in anime. Now it's your turn to somehow turn the 30 wins out of 38 anime into sometihng less than 50% win rate, and your current arguments don't even come close to dipping below 60% much less half.

@Shadow5YA
Eh... your evaluation on some of those series is somewhat inaccurate.

- Ano Hana does not count, considering the entire main cast was made of childhood friends.
Again, if you haven't read what I said to Ame, I'm trying to prove that childhood friends get together more often than they lose. It doesn't matter if the main cast are all childhood friends, because plenty of times in the past I've counted losses for childhood friends when they are obviously side-characters.

- Sora no Otoshimono does not count; the series is inconclusive on the romance front.
....
- Infinite Stratos is the same as Sora no Otoshimono: in the canon, there is no "end couple" yet.
- The same goes for Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai: inconclusive. As far as I know, it's still Yozora vs Sena.
As I said to Ame, if you don't want to count the implied wins, take out the implied losses as well. Because really, stuff like Fortune Arterial and Kami-sama Dolls are 'stains' I'd rather do without because nothing really conclusive happened YET.

- Guilty Crown is more of a loss, because Hare lost against Inori.
There is NO evidence at all of the protagonist knowing Hare before middle school/jr high (the cutoff point for classification of osananajimi). Heck, wiki specifically states that they only met each other in jr high here (http://guiltycrown.wikia.com/wiki/Hare_Menjou).

On the other hand, the couple that have indeed been proven to have met when children (Gai and Mana) accepted each other in the last episode, though only at death.

I think the track record of animanga isn't as clear cut as you seem to make it.
I never said it's clear cut. I just said that childhood friends win more often than not in anime, of which I ONLY need to prove they have over 50% win ratio.

Even assuming you made IS/SoraOto/Haganai/AnoHana as draws, and Guilty Crown as loss, it's still 73% win ratio (25 wins out of 34 shows). AND that is assuming I don't take out losses for the same reason you took out the wins.

uis

2012-07-06, 11:49

Oh well osana najimi shipper is here... I declare full 100% no Chisato winning this time...

I am tired with my current record now... I am losing so much even when i support main heroine Sena Airi in Mashiiro Symphony, tragedy of Akasaka repeated...

Seriously i am tired with Chisato hogging everything in VN, Michiru and Satsuki winning for change in anime... Isara winning also acceptable but no Chisato...

sapper

2012-07-06, 12:30

ok just watched it in english and it wasnt bad i'd say a 7.5 outta 10 but i'll wait till the next eps to see what happens
btw was that love declaration to mifuyu fake or what? i got confused there

Flower

2012-07-06, 12:33

I thought it was pretty good, but mostly introductory and low key - except for the opening moments. That was unexpectedly serious....

Will keep giving it a watch for now.

SoFarGone

2012-07-06, 12:37

I liked the manga intro better. No contact with the student council girl in the first episode and lack of sighting in the OP suggest that she won't be end girl.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera

2012-07-06, 12:49

Rayrah

2012-07-06, 12:58

Geez, she's the one who straddles him and yanks the blankets off after barging into his room to wake up him, but HE'S the one who gets slapped? :twitch: lame XP lol

Not sure what to make of it so far...looked so dark and serious at the beginning, but then...yeah... lol
I was so sure that he was the one who slapped her, and not vice versa. But noooooooooo..

The first episode was good enough. It's a shame the transition of the V/Ns art style into anime form didn't work out all that well. I suppose a much higher budget would be needed for that. Oh well.

GreyZone

2012-07-06, 16:18

Double standards striked again.... aside from that it is ok. Typical harem intro probably with a student council election battle setup... and I would give it a 9/10, but because of double standard overdosis and a clingy homosexual (?) guy mixed up into the harem (nothing against homosexuals, but please not in harem animes...) it gets lowered to 6,5/10. But I expect it to get better... or at least i hope that.

Dop

2012-07-06, 17:21

When I saw the hit and run at the start, I did think "Hang on, I thought this was going to be some wacky harem comedy?"
Still, if the show does have a bit of a dark side, that may make it seem less generic.

Although I think the highlights were when the teacher turned up and poured herself a beer for breakfast, and when Yuuki snapped the end off Yume's 'Yaoi Stick'...

Still subject to the 'four episode test', but so far I enjoyed it.

Marcus H.

2012-07-06, 20:03

I think the reason why Yuuki got slapped is because of Yuuki's morning wood or a similar case that was caused by Chisato grinding her hips on Yuuki. :heh:

Anyway, the first few minutes of the episode definitely remind me of Kamisama no Memochou for some reason. Hopefully they will cover that part of the story in the upcoming episodes. It's too early to judge, isn't it?

Chaos2Frozen

2012-07-06, 20:18

I think the reason why Yuuki got slapped is because of Yuuki's morning wood or a similar case that was caused by Chisato grinding her hips on Yuuki. :heh:

Judging by how familiar Chisato is with the terrain, I can't imagine this being her first...lol, rodeo.

So I'm guessing what she saw was Yuuki-Junior uncovered; that would brighten anybody's day first thing in the morning.

ZODDGUTS

2012-07-06, 20:25

It's a tired out old anime trope. Not really funny either. But hey the Otaku's still like it so whatever.

Marcus H.

2012-07-06, 21:17

:topicoff:

Doesn't really matter if it is a trope, though. [/topicoff]

relentlessflame

2012-07-06, 22:20

I think the reason why it's a popular trope is because it's a quick way of communicating a lot about the relationship between the two characters in a very short period of time: the "childhood friend" closeness, their growing awareness of their sexuality, her temperament, and so on. I'm sure there are other ways of presenting the same thing... but I guess this is almost like "shorthand".

(And yeah, well, I don't know of many guys who would be so opposed to waking up with a cute girl straddling them like that, so yeah... :heh: )

Marcus H.

2012-07-06, 22:29

(And yeah, well, I don't know of many guys who would be so opposed to waking up with a cute girl straddling them like that, so yeah... :heh: )

Darn, you got me! D:

Ah screw this, I'm turning into Mangatron. D:

Iron Maw

2012-07-06, 22:32

I liked the manga intro better.

Same with me, but this episode wasn't bad. It threw too many characters without much introduction in the viewer's face though, and the pace was a bit too fast. Not sure how the VN handled everything. The character designs are fine, they don't match the VN, but their no means bad, fairly well detailed and proportioned.

No contact with the student council girl in the first episode and lack of sighting in the OP suggest that she won't be end girl.

That is worrying, I want Satsuki to look like she at least has a chance, like in the manga. :(

Marcus H.

2012-07-06, 22:49

Anyway, I admit there are a few details that needed to be explained, especially with Kana, the car "accident" in the first few minutes of the episode. Was the guy who got the info working with Satsuki? And who is the guy with the ponytail and what is his relation with Kana?

I hope that the series also touches up on the serious side of a student council, since it would be a nice contrast to Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon's own way of settling political stuff within the school and between other schools. Not that I don't like the happier moments of the series; I want to see if the series is able to manage those along with the romance factor.

OceanBlue

2012-07-07, 03:15

It was a cute first episode. That's enough for now for me. As far as opening episodes for harem anime go, it was definitely decent-to-good in my opinion.

AmeNoJaku

2012-07-07, 03:48

Unfortunately, the character designs were rushed in the anime, but are still pretty good, especially the childhood friend (Chisato, I think) is very expressive.

The other problem I see is that this isn't broadcasted at all by AT-X, so censoring might become an issue later.

First episode also tried to use every harem troupe in the book, but I guess as the plot develops these will become less prevalent.

Finally, @osana-najimi-shipper: First it's not a win when there is no competition to begin with (e.g. AnoHana, PenguinDrum). Second, implying a win is subjective at best. Third, about Horizon, I missed that, but don't blame me, since there were so many badly executed info-dumps that make Index a storytelling masterpiece. The few examples of conclusive anime that come to my mind are:

LOSES
In Mai-HiME Tate chose Mai over Shiho
In SHUFFLE! Rin chose Asa over Kaede (anime)
In True Tears, Ai lost
In Seto no Hanayome, Mawari had no chance in hell beating Seto San
Same bleak fate for Akina of UFO Princess Valkyrie
In Kannazuki no Miko, Souma eventually loses to Chikane
Manami of OreImou is out of the picture already
In DenYuuDen, Milk never had a fighting chance with Reiner
Athena is also out of the picture in Hayate no Gotoku!

WINS
In Kamisama Kazoku Tenko eventually won
In Bible Black Imari wins (kind of since she is possessed)
In Ai Yori Aoshi, Aoi clearly beats all distraction, hands down

GenjiChan

2012-07-07, 04:50

The character design reminds me of Amagami. Quite interesting female characters...

Ashaman

2012-07-07, 06:24

GenjiChan

2012-07-07, 06:27

Marcus H.

2012-07-07, 07:25

Why don't they just make their club worthwhile/useful.

Limited time. Probably by the time that they have finally made something worthwhile, Satsuki has already gone through the plan to wipeout the "worthless" clubs, Shokken included.

Plus, I feel that this concern with funding is a something suspicious, especially with bribes and underhanded tactics going around the school.

Ashaman

2012-07-07, 08:28

They apparently have enough time to enter and run in for student council.

They have at least one machine that makes sweets (I think)

How much time would it take to organize a bake sale or something along those lines.

2, 3 days?

They're the Contemporary Food Club, whatever that means.
Weather its selling, recommending, making or sampling food, as long as they can show that they've done something productive for themselves and more importantly the student body as a whole, they should be safe.

Once Finance girl becomes prez, they can say - This is what we've done, this is how much money we made, and this is our plan for next month. We are now productive.

Its much better than trying to become SCPrez; which is a long shot anyway, and even if Yuu wins he'll actually have to deal with SCP duties, meaning that his time in the club will massively drop.

I don't know - I think that I'm annoyed mostly because rather than make themselves useful, they'd rather work hard for a couple of days or weeks, only so that they can continue to laze about and eat sweets, even as one of their own gets saddled with all the work and responsibility.

And its not as though I can fault Finance girls plan to disband useless clubs, when so far the three examples we have are the Eat Sweets and Laze Around Club, the Model Making Club and whatever the hell that other girl does (Origami?)

And Marcus - I know there's shady back room stuff going on, but they don't. All they know is that one guy is giving away 100 yen to volley for votes.

Khu

2012-07-07, 10:01

Yay the OP is so nice! :D

lansglenn

2012-07-07, 10:06

Ashaman

2012-07-07, 10:29

Yea, but then it'd be too realistic and won't be as epic.

This is anime - you think they can't make bake sales epic?:D

-Sho-

2012-07-07, 11:09

Typical etc...... but at least better than Kono Naka.... for a first episode even with censorships.
It seems entertaining enough to watch , i'll give 3 more episodes.
And yeah , the art is mediocre compared to VN.

blakstealth

2012-07-07, 11:23

It's decent enough, even though I have only seen some pics here and there for the VN. Some characters (Hazuki and Satsuki) definitely got that Amagami SS-like look going on, so I don't mind. :P

DragoonKain3

2012-07-07, 11:25

This is anime - you think they can't make bake sales epic?:D
IMO, it's a question of logic, but a question of the common sense these people have. I mean, we have the smarted one out of them all unintentionally leave the candy maker on for the night for crying out loud! How much more for thinking all those complicated stuff when they can just have a sacrificial lamb do their work for them? :heh:

@AmenoJaku
First it's not a win when there is no competition to begin with (e.g. AnoHana, PenguinDrum).
On the same token, if there is no romantic interest (ie competition) from the childhood friend, I shouldn't count it as a loss. Examples include Natsuiro no Sunadoeki OVA and Ichigo 100%.

But no, I take those as losses BECAUSE I want to be fair with the criteria I set out.

1a) No childhood friends = anime does not count in the list
b) EVERY character are childhood friends, however major or minor = does not count

2a) 1 childhood friend is in the anime (even minor, not in the love competition, or heck, if only appeared for a split second) = does count
b) EVERY character are childhood friends except 1 (even minor) character is NOT a childhood friend = does count

What you're asking is for 2a to STILL count but 2b to NOT count, which is obviously a double standard.

Regardless, as I said, AnoHana has competition in the girl who gave Tsuruko the letter to give to cross dresser. On Penguin Drum, Yuri had sexual relations with the person who eventually shot Tabuki. Just for the record, you know?

Second, implying a win is subjective at best.
And what I'm saying is EVEN if you take out implied wins AND implied losses (you can't just IGNORE implied wins and COUNT implied losses)...

That is, if you ONLY count the anime where the ending was 100% definitive and conclusive, the ratio of childhood friends winning in anime will still be over 50% over a certain time period.

The few examples of conclusive anime that come to my mind are:
I think you're getting stuffed mixed up, as some of the following from your list is not as conclusive as you claim them to be...

Mai HIME - ONLY an implied win. Tate never officially went out with Mai in the anime proper, as the anime ended before anything happened. I personally count it as a loss, but if you don't like implied wins then you gotta out implied loss, am i right?

In True Tears, Ai lost - but Hiromi also knew the protagonist since childhood (elementary school in fact), and she WON

In DenYuuDen, Milk never had a fighting chance with Reiner - but again, it is ONLY implied that they will not get together, as Reiner's leading LIs are the blonde swordsmaster and the traitor in the prologue. As such, since no definitive conclusion YET, this should NOT count as a loss according to you

Manami of OreImou is out of the picture already - the ONLY one out of the picture is HanaKana's character, if you know what I mean. The rest is pretty much up for grabs, but I say the seeds are being sown there for Manami. But hey, since there is no conclusive couple for the time being, we need to count this as a draw right?

Athena is also out of the picture in Hayate no Gotoku! - she hasn't even appeared in the anime proper yet and we're already counting her? (for the record I only made the claim about ANIME and not manga) Heck, Hayate hasn't chosen anybody yet, so it definitely NOT conclusive

(and that's not going in to the fact that Athena still made Hayate blush during the dream, but that's not what I'm arguing about so I'm going to leave it at that)

So that leaves 4 losses (Shuffle, Seto no Hanayome, UFO Valkyrie, and Kannazuki no Miko) as losses vs those three you mentioned as wins plus True Tears. But since we're now obviously talking about over a large span of time (outside of 2011), how about we extend the list to anime from year 2000 and on?

With that, it's pretty trivial to prove over 50% win rate if that's all the losses you're gonna give. How about I give examples such as say, Mahoraba? Or how about I be generous and give you Mai HIME as a loss, but I can just name DNAngel as win to counteract that loss.

Heck, I'm gonna one up you and also mention Wind: a Breath of Heart, Hani Hani, Kakyuusei 2, Gankutsuou, and my personal favourite, KimiKiss as CONCLUSIVE and DEFINITIVE wins.

In fact, I am 100% confident that I can always name one definitive win in anime more than the number of definitive losses you can muster (hint: click on the statistics link in my sig if you don't think I did my homework; sure it has implied counted, but it's pretty trivial for me to weed out only the ones that ended definitively and I need an excuse to update it up to 2011).

Wilfriback

2012-07-07, 12:16

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2198/koi2bto2bsenkyo2b012b9.jpg

:heh:

Candyshark

2012-07-07, 12:40

Chūni-byō Demo Koi Shitai!

Chisato does not seem to be impressed by imposter:P.

Reckoner

2012-07-07, 14:31

Wow.

I knew this was going to have so-so visuals since it was a branch of AIC and AIC never really provides nice visuals, but I never expected the story to be this revolting.

I remember when I watching NGE episode 26 once in my life and it had that 4th wall breaking moment when it featured an alternate reality of the characters, one where there was a cliche harem moment between two of the characters Asuka and Shinji. Basically what happened in that opening scene in the bed was the exact same thing that happened here and I cannot help but be aggrieved here. This is the exact thing that has been criticized for over a decade.

Talk about perpetrating the stereotype. It feels like some stories will never get better than these sort of cliches.

If it was just this one scene that seemed to do this it wouldn't really be worth complaining about, but the entire episode was chock full of the usual harem bull that I was severely unimpressed by the whole spectacle. There is no shred of individual identity in this show so far. The characters are stock, and the main character is your typical harem lead.

A waste of good char designs I would say.

There was literally no redeeming features about this episode. If it doesn't shape up next episode, I'll consider it an instant drop. Hopefully it becomes less generic and the cast stops being so annoying because this was quite awful.

Iron Maw

2012-07-07, 16:27

So, to protect their club from the finance advisor becoming presidant and cutting all worthless clubs, they decide to make one of their own president?

Why don't they just make their club worthwhile/useful.

Start selling some of those sweets that they make or something.

Yeah, honestly this part of the plot has always bugged me.

Their Club Adviser even admits that the Food Club is just hang-out spot for the group to eat and drink with the funds. In the most rational and practical point of view Satsuki isn't doing anything wrong at all by getting rid of it. If Ooshima does run and win the election he should seriously consider how make it a bit more productive.

At this point there is no real reason for it to exist.

blakstealth

2012-07-07, 18:24

Maybe everyone there is just a bunch of a-holes that don't really wanna share any of their goods.

Marcus H.

2012-07-07, 21:18

Well, they say "merit".
Define "merit".
Their definition of merit is probably "fame", "prestige" or "profitability" for all we know.

In any case, any niche clubs would eventually be scrapped for being "not famous", "lacking prestige" or is "unprofitable".

Besides, they can host a sweets festival all day long and they'll still get scrapped.

molitar

2012-07-07, 21:55

Well I will have to wait to see if it comes out in BD or DVD format before I watch this censored massacre of a show! If they are going to censor put some damn thought into it a box drawn in front on the floor after all they are in a classroom something besides the cop out method that they used here where a quarter of the entire screen was blurred out. I can't stand cop out censorship that means they don't care about the damn production or they would draw on object in the way something that shows they care about the damn show.

DragoZERO

2012-07-07, 22:30

It was a fun first episode. Definitely not enough to make a decision on whether or not to watch though.

And the censoring is painful. Yikes.

GenjiChan

2012-07-07, 22:34

It was a fun first episode. Definitely not enough to make a decision on whether or not to watch though.

And the censoring is painful. Yikes.

That was the disappointing part.:(

Midonin

2012-07-07, 22:56

It was one relatively short scene in a full 23-minute episode. Does it really affect one's enjoyment of things that much?

GenjiChan

2012-07-07, 23:04

It was one relatively short scene in a full 23-minute episode. Does it really affect one's enjoyment of things that much?

Its the strawberry in a strawberry cake. No matter how strawberry flavored it is... but without the real strawberry... its still a plain strawberry flavored cake...

Nvis

2012-07-08, 01:25

Artwork is bad.
Story is bad.

OP is GOOD!

AmeNoJaku

2012-07-08, 02:19

It was one relatively short scene in a full 23-minute episode. Does it really affect one's enjoyment of things that much?

True for episode one, but it will probably get more annoying down the way.

Artwork is bad.

:nono: It is not as good as the promotional art, and level of quality is impossible for TV anime.

Story is bad.

It's only a first episode... it started and ended with an interesting plot, but I will agree that the main part of the episode was trivially unengaging and unoriginal. Still better wait to get past character introduction to judge the story.

OP is GOOD!

It wasn't bad, indeed :heh:

blakstealth

2012-07-08, 08:10

Yeah, you can't go wrong with Annabel. This was the first time I heard her sing a pretty upbeat song.

Lord of Fire

2012-07-08, 08:57

I want to like this show, but it's not really doing that good of a job so far. I'm sure there's a serious undertone to it, but they'd better pick up the plot soon, else I might even get that far before I drop it. And the censoring doesn't help either.

Nvis

2012-07-08, 19:33

The only thing that seems to interest me is who ran over that poor girl. And could be a student(a student that drives????) or someone wearing same uniform?

Texas84

2012-07-08, 19:46

Loved it. I can't get enough of this stuff. But don't a few of the girls look familiar?

Hint: School Days & Ano Natsu de Matteru

AmeNoJaku

2012-07-08, 19:55

The only thing that seems to interest me is who ran over that poor girl. And could be a student(a student that drives????) or someone wearing same uniform?

My main problem was reaching the pedals... I had to wait until middle school for that, but by the legal exam age, I had lost all interest :heh:

Master_Yoma

2012-07-08, 21:14

Well isnt to bad of a first episode but why is there a teacher drinking beer in school in front of her students

GenjiChan

2012-07-08, 21:16

Well isnt to bad of a first episode but why is there a teacher drinking beer in school in front of her students

That was beer?:eyebrow::heh:

AmeNoJaku

2012-07-08, 21:23

Well isnt to bad of a first episode but why is there a teacher drinking beer in school in front of her students

Because she is an adult :uhoh:

That was beer?:eyebrow::heh:

Alcohol-free maybe :heh:

GenjiChan

2012-07-08, 21:29

Alcohol-free maybe :heh:

Hmmm.. make sense...:heh::uhoh:

Friday

2012-07-08, 22:30

we'll see how 2nd ep goes.....

I like to see that teacher go up against Sawako in a drinking competition.....

AmeNoJaku

2012-07-08, 22:42

Hmmm.. make sense...:heh::uhoh:

No it doesn't!!! if alcohol is so bad, ban it... it is the least rediculous to spend (and lose) so much money on anti-drinking/smoking/obesity/anorexia/etc. campaigns and bans, instead of funding research on cures and genetic prognosis.

Plus this is a late night eroge-based anime, if a kid watches TV at this time, indirect alcohol advertisement is the least of the family's problems :uhoh:

totoum

2012-07-09, 02:25

If it was just this one scene that seemed to do this it wouldn't really be worth complaining about, but the entire episode was chock full of the usual harem bull that I was severely unimpressed by the whole spectacle.

For some reason at one point I wondered if I wasn't watching some sort of satire of harem anime,I'm probably overestimating the show :heh:
Still,pretending it was made the show a whole lot more enjoyable!

blakstealth

2012-07-09, 08:06

Well isnt to bad of a first episode but why is there a teacher drinking beer in school in front of her studentsIt's nectar of the gods.

ars89

2012-07-10, 08:30

Wasn't expecting that opening scene, but it does make it a little more interesting. OP and ED were good, characters were likable. Lol Yuuki sees some pretty strange things.

tsunade666

2012-07-11, 13:17

Just finished episode one and a question. What's with the MC seeing weird stuff? like that propeller and mask? will that play an important part in the plot or just their for lolz? I'm still not decided on this show. I download it when its been aired and I've been having hard time to watched it in my free time. Thanks to that homo guy. I always stop their. But since I don't have any thing to watch today. I just went with it. I still see nothing much on individual characters character. Specially what's the hype with Satsuki? is she the one who is running for president next? It looks like their is a conspiracy thing happening in the beginning but got blown off when the story starts. Specially with a beautiful girl dressing and walking into his childhood friends room and waking him up. That blow the dark ambiance of the beginning. Though at the end with the president and that girl in the hospital room bring back a little to the main story. I still don't get this one.

Xaturas

2012-07-11, 13:28

Checked the VGN CG's to see what we deal here. Not much heroine's here frankly. There were like 4-7 (not all girls just few from club and some outside the club) from the cast which main hero actually boned.
Don't know about the story, don't care about romance and all that stuff as it will be generic at best. Just hope it will indulge into the mystery behind the scenes like assaults and bribery.

hyl

2012-07-11, 13:49

Finally got the time to watch the first episode.
I am probably slightly more biased than the anime only viewers, because i already played the original, but it felt pretty rushed even if i didn't read the eroge. I know that this adaptation is supposed to be a 1 cour show, so they had to introduce all the characters and the settings as fast as possible. But it made this anime look slightly generic and more like the standard cliche harem serie by doing so.

As for the art, i didn't exactly dislike it. The characters still look alot like their VN versions and from the 2nd PV i already knew that i was not going to expect that this adaptation would outdo the art of the original.

Biggest problem for me was the pacing (and some minor changes because that), but i don't have too many other things to watch this season so i will follow this serie to the end.

That was beer?:eyebrow::heh:
Meh, i don't think that this counts as any significant spoiler but that was indeed beer in the eroge. Also i don't think it was alcohol free, because Hazuki didn't have a problem drinking sake at the beginning of the game.

edit: it's nice to hear Ceui doing the ending for the anime, eventhough i liked "jewelry time" more though

MisaoFan

2012-07-12, 12:11

Yuki meet a student council named Satsuki, who's happen to be one of the most prettiest girls of the school. According to Satsuki and the vice-president, Yuki is chosen to be the future opponent of the election in order to save his cooking club in danger. One of the most hilarious moments of the episode is when Nozomi is experiencing a liquid gum (called Neru Neru Nerune) in a scientific manner. Oboro always continually to behave in a romantic manner whenever he's close to Yuuki. It's sad to see Chisato hating chocolate due to childhood trauma. One censorship is involved with Michiru's scene, but it wasn't a big deal for me. Let's see how the romantic hijinks will continuously appears in a couple of episodes before the election arc will officially sets.

Midonin

2012-07-12, 13:27

I'm not usually one to dwell on romance, but this episode made one thing quite clear. The Chisato flag has been triggered. A flashback like that can only be read so many ways.

The political process hasn't quite started yet, most of it was Yuki walking around the school wondering why he should even do such a thing. And it looks like nobody can get his name right. So far, I like that he looks to be on good terms with Satsuki, despite her being the club's greatest threat. Still don't trust that Moheiji guy, but if 2/3rds of the candidates are friendly, that bodes well. (It never does)

My favorite part this week was, once again, the antics back in the clubroom. That mixer thing with the extravagantly long name was great. This could also be because I enjoy Nozomi's type - the junior mad scientist. Not a bad episode.

Candyshark

2012-07-12, 15:26

Anime seems to ship Chisato hard. Is it me or there is no obligatory tsundere around?

hyl

2012-07-12, 16:04

Anime seems to ship Chisato hard. Is it me or there is no obligatory tsundere around?

Haven't had the time to watch episode 2, but it's not suprising that the anime starts to lean towards Chisato at the beginning.

As for as i know, there isn't an actual tsundere among the heroines.

edit: browsed through episode 2. I have less to complain about the pacing of this episode, because it actually takes it's time to establish the characters (mostly Satsuki though) and the settings a little more. Eventhough i would have liked that the anime gave Isara a little screentime (and stop cutting away some of her story).

GenjiChan

2012-07-12, 16:12

Anime seems to ship Chisato hard. Is it me or there is no obligatory tsundere around?

Its not necessary since Chisato's feelings the Yuki is somewhat like an open secret. Maybe, it just need a little more "awkward scene" to get this two together realized the need for each other.;)

Iron Maw

2012-07-12, 16:43

Just finished episode one and a question. What's with the MC seeing weird stuff? like that propeller and mask? will that play an important part in the plot or just their for lolz?

I guess it's to hint that MC can see the true character of those people. The reason the guy had a mask on when Oojima saw him was symbolize his two-faced nature, I think.

Anime seems to ship Chisato hard. Is it me or there is no obligatory tsundere around?

I've pretty much lost all hope of Satsuki even having a chance to win when she wasn't even in the OP as silly as it sounds.

blakstealth

2012-07-12, 17:39

She was, though. :0

Candyshark

2012-07-12, 18:02

Yeah:( Hope is dwindling. Hopefully we get at least enough cutesy moments from her and I'm not talking about crotchdives.

Well they could have easily made Satsuki to be tsundere. Give her rich princess attitude and need to keep her image. Twin tails are reserved for lolis. And you get generic tsundere.

Though to be honest even if this anime fails in terms of romance it may be carried by club antics alone.

P.S. And yeah tsunderes don't let fondle their breasts unpunished.

serenade_beta

2012-07-12, 21:34

To my pleasant surprise, not a boring episode.
Not that I dare to say it was interesting either, but well... Makes you feel the importance of voice actors...
Looks like the childhood friend character is at the top right now, but she doesn't seem to have that much of a lead. It would be interesting if she lost though, despite seeming like the main heroine so far. But being a childhood friend is such a lose flag, so in that way, it wouldn't be surprising.

I liked the weird dance by the professor character though. :heh:

thundrakkon

2012-07-13, 03:00

This series is one of the more enjoyable harem animes for this season. It has a nice premise and likeable characters. The MC is also likeable as well, which is usually not the case in most harem animes.

As of episode 2, I like Satsuki a lot. She seems like a really understanding, intelligent, and playful character. On top of that, she is also good looking. Sadly, though, in most harem animes that only has one winner in the end, the intelligent type usually loses out. It seems like the number one qualification for harem heroine is to be ditzy to some capacity.

I also like Isara, as she reminds me a lot of Hare from Guilty Crown. She is definitely the underdog in this series, who tries really hard. It makes for a pleasant personality. Unfortunately, that also means that she will most likely lose out. She is also not getting very much storyline either.

Of course, the number one most prominent person with the most screen time is Chisato. She fits the profile of energetic, aloof at times, character, who cares a lot for the MC. In most harem animes, that usually translates to the winner in the end. I'm not even sure if anyone else even has a chance at the moment.

As for the last 2 major heroines, Mifuyu and Michiru, they just don't stand out or draw any major flags for them to be even remotely considered as final candidates. Unless the storyline changes considerably from this point forward, the ending is sort of predictable. Nonetheless, I will probably enjoy the process from what I have seen so far of this series.