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EnigmaticAxiom
2012-07-12, 00:46
Dreyakis updated Vol. 01 Chapter 03. Posting that bit of news up here as well as on jcafe. Thanks.

FRS
2012-07-12, 02:12
*cheers*

Thanks for the translation.

Richocet
2012-07-12, 02:37
thnx for that
Just a question, is the chap completed or there is still more

EDIT- enjoyed the back and forth b/w tatsuya and Mayumi, hopefully there will be more to read

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-07-12, 03:45
The chapter is completed.

Mentar
2012-07-12, 04:14
This kind of banter is really really fun, but almost always omitted in summaries (naturally). Therefore, getting some true translations is an absolute treat :)

Thanks to the translator, hoping for more!

Awrya
2012-07-13, 17:28
Short question, what were the short stories in Vol 5 again?

Morisaki&bodyguard job
Story about Cardinal
beach side story
Shiba siblings summer holiday
and Saegusa side story?

Syokool
2012-07-17, 12:50
Just when I was looking if I can make a reservation, I got this:

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/61pB60%2BkVoL._SS500_.jpg

http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4048867008/koukokukaigis-22/ref=nosim

Can't wait for it :hyper-^v^:

Seitsuki
2012-07-17, 18:13
Imouto? Yuri? Genderbent loli Tatsuya?

It's one of those right? Please tell me it is so ;_;

kuroishinigami
2012-07-17, 20:35
It's honoka and her lesyay friend :p. Anyway, can someone tell me if the change between the web novel and the published one is quite significant in this new arc?

kfcpanda
2012-07-17, 20:55
Genderbent loli Tatsuya?


i like how you instantly went there

Okashira
2012-07-17, 22:02
BTW, don't the girls look like, I don't know, like... 4 years younger than in the previous volume?

It's the Kiyotaka Haimura syndrome all over again :heh:

tsunade666
2012-07-18, 06:36
BTW, don't the girls look like, I don't know, like... 4 years younger than in the previous volume?

It's the Kiyotaka Haimura syndrome all over again :heh:

I agree, Honoka and Shizuku had gone a lot younger than their years or looks but I don't care. They are a lot cuter so I love it :heh: :heh:

kfcpanda
2012-07-18, 06:42
wtb more mayumi/miyuki love though :(

Awrya
2012-07-18, 15:25
BTW, don't the girls look like, I don't know, like... 4 years younger than in the previous volume?

It's the Kiyotaka Haimura syndrome all over again :heh:

Moefication and lolification at its finest. Check out other LN and how their character designs changed from the first to the latest volumes:heh:

Though Shizuka changed more than Honoka, she definitely looked more mature in Vol. 4:heh:

Okashira
2012-07-20, 09:14
BTW, this one was moved out of "teasers" and to "projects" over at Baka Tsuki since it actually finally got a dedicated translator

Seitsuki
2012-07-20, 09:33
We weren't dedicated enough for you?

Cough.

Okashira
2012-07-20, 10:06
We weren't dedicated enough for you?


I thought that you abandoned this project (novel) under the (much justified) reason that 100% of the pages aren't dedicated to Miyuki (well, that and they include chuckloads of text about imaginary physics and non existing energy rules).

Well, I'm never up to date with these things, so what do I know.

Hell_ping
2012-07-20, 10:44
I thought that you abandoned this project (novel) under the (much justified) reason that 100% of the pages aren't dedicated to Miyuki (well, that and they include chuckloads of text about imaginary physics and non existing energy rules).

Well, I'm never up to date with these things, so what do I know.

You can sign a contract with me, you know.

willx
2012-07-20, 10:45
You can sign a contract with me, you know.

That's especially scary with your Kyubey avatar picture..

Awrya
2012-07-20, 12:17
You can sign a contract with me, you know.

I thought you only go after adolescent girls?:heh:

surerman
2012-07-20, 16:43
That's especially scary with your Kyubey avatar picture..

why so?:eyebrow: I'll happily eat that rabbit - half roasted - with honey and chili :D

and for me, to sign a contract mean one/bunch of life will be gone from this world :heh:

SIn42
2012-07-22, 04:57
Dreyakis updated Vol. 01 Chapter 04.

Nightengale
2012-07-22, 06:27
So lewd, Miyuki.

surerman
2012-07-22, 10:14
So lewd, Miyuki.

nah! it's still in low level, but it'll be different if the one she rub into her onii-chan is her crotch XD
I'm sure Tatsuya will snapped then, much to her joy when he push her down:D
like this (http://grim.snafu-comics.com/comics/110613_grim.jpg) or this (http://grim.snafu-comics.com/comics/110902_grim.jpg)

kfcpanda
2012-07-22, 16:50
That chapter made me greatly conflicted whether to support Mayumi or Miyuki...

waffler
2012-07-23, 00:16
sorry if this question is already answered but does anyone find out about tatsuyas powers???

bludvein
2012-07-23, 00:27
At least partially yes.

During the Yokohoma War Tatsuya ends up using regrowth and Miyuki is forced to explain that power after swearing the group to secrecy. As for his full powers, I think only Lina ever finds out. The rest of the school is still in the dark, although the main cast at least knows Tatsuya is far more dangerous than he likes to appear and is affiliated with the military.

waffler
2012-07-23, 00:38
thanks and is there anyone in the school who knows his disintegration?

whsie
2012-07-23, 01:13
thanks and is there anyone in the school who knows his disintegration?

IIRC only his sister. I'm not even sure his school adviser, who is is also in the military, knows. I can't really remember, but I think Saegusa might have caught a glimpse of his mist dispersion against a tank during the Yokohoma Wars, but the attack was beyond anything Mayumi Saegusa comprehended in magic.

kfcpanda
2012-07-23, 02:28
mari notice tatsuya's dispersion on the car in arc 2? or is that something else?

whsie
2012-07-23, 02:47
mari notice tatsuya's dispersion on the car in arc 2? or is that something else?

I believe that was gram demolition (as Mayumi would refer to it during the tournament). That's different. Mari wasn't sure what it was when she saw that, but at the same time she was afraid to ask Tatsuya because of the power.

willx
2012-07-23, 12:09
Hm.. I just re-read the Chapter 3/4 translations on BT and noticed one thing in the translation.

I thought Tatsuya was weak in Interference Strength .. but it seems like it's one of the areas he's strong in .. or at least it's implied he's strong in that.

Syokool
2012-07-23, 13:43
Nice to see some updates in BT :)

About volume 6, this is in the 3rd place after SAO and Platina Data in Oricon's ranking, so it seems Mahouka is gaining popularity between readers.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/obb/w/2012-07-23/

I don't have my own copy yet, but some people say this volume covers the beginning of the newcomer's competition.

I really would like to see an animated version of this series, mainly because I'd like to see Miyuki in her different clothes :cool:

willx
2012-07-23, 13:59
Nice to see some updates in BT :)

About volume 6, this is in the 3rd place after SAO and Platina Data in Oricon's ranking, so it seems Mahouka is gaining popularity between readers.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/obb/w/2012-07-23/

I don't have my own copy yet, but some people say this volume covers the beginning of the newcomer's competition.

I really would like to see an animated version of this series, mainly because I'd like to see Miyuki in her different clothes :cool:

I'd be confident that the team doing Accel World could do this series justice. I mean, they already did promotional posters! :D

Then again, does that mean we'll have to wait till .. 2047 for an anime >_<

Sumeragi
2012-07-23, 14:04
Taking note.

Richocet
2012-07-23, 16:49
Read chap 4
Oh, Miyuki, you...

Kleeyook
2012-07-24, 15:40
My compatriots! Someone just uploaded Mahouka LN RAW vol. 6 on jcafe24!

Mentar
2012-07-24, 15:46
*lol*

Jealous Miyuki cast-punching Tatsuya's lights out is too moe for words ;)

Kleeyook
2012-07-24, 15:48
*lol*

Jealous Miyuki cast-punching Tatsuya's lights out is too moe for words ;)

My comrade, you posted on the wrong thread... This one is for LN discussion only. :p

Syokool
2012-07-24, 15:55
Why God, why?

I thought I will receive my copy before the raws :(

Well, for those who only want to look at the illustrations, here some of them:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/001-6.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/101.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/214.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/252.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/331.jpg


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/082-1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/353.jpg

willx
2012-07-24, 15:56
Why God, why?

I thought I will receive my copy before the raws :(

Well, for those who only want to look at the illustrations, here some of them:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/001-6.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/101.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/214.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/252.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/331.jpg


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/082-1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/353.jpg


OMG! OMG! MIZUKI! MIYUKI!? Why you both so moe?

FRS
2012-07-24, 16:13
Ah there are some nice illustrations.

willx
2012-07-24, 16:20
Quick question - which are is Vol 6? I read most of the web summaries and was so sure I was far ahead of the print versions.. but then again, I don't remember the scenes from some of the illustrations..

aigomorla
2012-07-24, 16:35
holy cow he grab'd them... :O

thats one thing i didnt expect him to be able to do, or even do on accident.

waffler
2012-07-24, 16:56
does anyone know which volume tatsuyas sister told him to stop being so bloody when he chopped off a guys arm?

surerman
2012-07-24, 21:28
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/082-1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/353.jpg


Picture2: Some one is under attack! fluffy attack:p
Picture1: The culprit:D

for those who want the RAWcan go to here (http://crazy-cake.blogspot.com/2011/12/mahouka-koukou-no-rettousei.html)

whsie
2012-07-25, 00:19
does anyone know which volume tatsuyas sister told him to stop being so bloody when he chopped off a guys arm?

Web 3. In published volumes, it should happen in the yet to be released volume 7' which is the second part of volume 6.

Velial
2012-07-25, 07:35
Why God, why?

I thought I will receive my copy before the raws :(

Well, for those who only want to look at the illustrations, here some of them:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/001-6.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/101.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/214.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/252.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/331.jpg


http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/082-1.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/353.jpg

Listen it was all great but can you explain in a summaries what is happen in this Vol?

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-07-25, 13:33
Listen it was all great but can you explain in a summaries what is happen in this Vol?

I doubt I'll be updating the summaries for this since it's a pain for me to convert image --> text (I read machine translations), but the novel takes place in the first 11 chapters of the web arc. You can read that summary for a rough idea of what happens. As for the new parts, you'll likely have to wait for a translation or for someone else to do them. Either way, I doubt the new parts will change the plot. They're probably mostly fleshing out some of the sub-characters. Summary can be found... somewhere in this thread. Too lazy to pull up my mediafire.

Mura
2012-07-28, 11:05
I want to start reading this on BT but I see vol 1 chap. 2 is incomplete. Should I just wait it out to be done before I start or should I just read it anyway?

larethian
2012-07-28, 11:52
I want to start reading this on BT but I see vol 1 chap. 2 is incomplete. Should I just wait it out to be done before I start or should I just read it anyway?
You can read the manga to cover the gap.

kfcpanda
2012-08-02, 13:01
rereading summaries, who was yanagi exactly?

Syokool
2012-08-02, 13:20
Listen it was all great but can you explain in a summaries what is happen in this Vol?

I haven't read it yet, since Oda Nobuna seemed interesting.

From what a friend told me, there are some good changes in the author's style, and more things that actually web volumes don't have.

---

I didn't know there is a fb of this series, and found some interesting pics. Even a French thread and a Thai one.

Seems like this series is getting famous around the world thanks to foreigners :heh:

Hope to see an anime adaption since this LN has a lot of potential to do it, though I don't know how they will manage the long walls of text about magic technology.

kfcpanda
2012-08-02, 15:33
eh, the manga seems to be doing a good job thus far of covering it in short

Flere821
2012-08-08, 01:06
Not exactly related to the LNs, but have anyone seen the new manga about Miyuki? It should be illegal to be that endearing :p

surerman
2012-08-08, 02:22
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/001-6.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/101.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/214.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/252.jpg

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/331.jpg


1st pic. Miyuki and her beloved Onii-sama
2nd pic. Mayumi scared to whom? Tatsuya? I thought he's expressionless
3rd pic. Meganekko with who?, some new character?, since I remember Tatsuya doesn't have Mole on his face
4th pic. wow, a good grab on a good shaped meat ball, go! umm.....unknown guy?
5th pic. female butler?, or ... bishounen butler?

bludvein
2012-08-08, 06:52
The 3rd and 4th pic are Mikihiko(the spirit user guy) and I don't remember the name of the girl. Don't recognize the last one, but if I had to guess its probably Erica's brother(the cop).

Okashira
2012-08-11, 07:34
New Chapter from volume 2 is out.

Tatsuya suddenly felt a cold draft emanating from beside him.

Golden moments.

Mentar
2012-08-11, 18:18
*lol*

You don't even have to read the chapter to know what happened ;)

Great to see that the LN translations are slowly getting ahead.

Sorans
2012-08-12, 02:21
I just couldn't help it and read all of the topic. I can't thank whsie, raptorfalcon and EnigmaticAxiom for their summaries ! Huge thanks !

Now I'm considering buying the LN volumes as I did with SAO when I fell in love with it xD

Rin Listviel
2012-08-13, 16:19
1st pic. Miyuki and her beloved Onii-sama
2nd pic. Mayumi scared to whom? Tatsuya? I thought he's expressionless
3rd pic. Meganekko with who?, some new character?, since I remember Tatsuya doesn't have Mole on his face
4th pic. wow, a good grab on a good shaped meat ball, go! umm.....unknown guy?
5th pic. female butler?, or ... bishounen butler?

2nd pic => Due to many thing happen Mayumi got suspicious and scared of tatsuya hiden and true personality...that she think he is actualy a beast deep down..>XD

Okashira
2012-08-17, 03:27
Another part of volume 2 is done.

FRS
2012-08-17, 04:47
It's always a pleasure to Tatsuya in action :)

Syokool
2012-08-17, 12:51
Good thing this series has regular releases. Hope to see more :D

I was looking for stuff... lie, I was just bored, clicking there and here and I found it:

http://img.imouto.in.th/2012/0728/0004832_58cfc7475e.jpg

Anyone knows where this came from?
I mean the fan-author, not the page.

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-08-17, 13:51
Good thing this series has regular releases. Hope to see more :D

I was looking for stuff... lie, I was just boring, clicking there and here and I found it:

http://img.imouto.in.th/2012/0728/0004832_58cfc7475e.jpg

Anyone knows where this came from?
I mean the fan-author, not the page.
That's in volume 6. The inside cover image, I guess it's called? It's not really a fan image in that case. As for a website or something like pixiv, I can't help you with that.

Syokool
2012-08-17, 19:27
I need to check that out.

I do admire some people here, they can read a lot, while I hardly have time for 1-2 volumes in a week :heh:

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-08-17, 23:16
I need to check that out.

I do admire some people here, they can read a lot, while I hardly have time for 1-2 volumes in a week :heh:

I'm jealous. It took me a good 3-4 months to properly read through them all. MKnR is the only LN I've properly read in japanese :(

larethian
2012-08-18, 10:17
I need to check that out.

I do admire some people here, they can read a lot, while I hardly have time for 1-2 volumes in a week :heh:

I'm much worse, I haven't been reading anything except for manga. I haven't even read OreShura 5 yet gawd!

Syokool
2012-08-18, 21:16
Well, manga have a variety of schedulles, so it's easy to get addicted to them :heh:

I read a lot (damn Share and Perfect Dark), but the ones I'm interested in the most are: Yasashii Sekai no Tsurikata, Kore wa Koi no Hanashi, Rika and Sekai no hate.
The others can wait until I get takôbons ^^

Ah, also Rettousei and Yuutousei. The second one because Miyuki... well, the first one and the LN also. She's juste too cute.

Right now, I'm reading Oda Nobuna and SAO vol.9, so I will read this in two months or so.

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About the image, I checked that out, and it's true, but I was surprised when that pic is exactly the same as the cartel in that ep. in AW.

blackwhite67
2012-08-23, 22:14
OMG! I was just browsing dengeki bunko's website and saw the cover for the 7th novel. To be honest I didn't recognize at first sight and thought that it was the cover for Muv-Luv or something.

http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/img/main1209/2.jpg

Tatsuya's suit looks awesome and if you look closely you can see him reaching out with his hands

Chaos2Frozen
2012-08-24, 02:08
OMG! I was just browsing dengeki bunko's website and saw the cover for the 7th novel. To be honest I didn't recognize at first sight and thought that it was the cover for Muv-Luv or something.


Why would you think it's Muv-Luv :heh: ? Dengeki Bunko doesn't publish Total Eclipse :heh:

Awrya
2012-08-24, 03:20
OMG! I was just browsing dengeki bunko's website and saw the cover for the 7th novel. To be honest I didn't recognize at first sight and thought that it was the cover for Muv-Luv or something.

http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/img/main1209/2.jpg

Tatsuya's suit looks awesome and if you look closely you can see him reaching out with his hands

He's just holding his black helmet.
2nd coming of Zero:heh:

This is Yokohama Wars, right?

kfcpanda
2012-08-24, 05:27
3rd arc iirc is the chinese invasion during the tech showoff

Mentar
2012-08-24, 06:20
The girl behind Tatsuya looks very much like Mayumi. So, it's going to be like kfcpanda said - the attack on the Thesis presentation (Mayumi wasn't around in the Yokohama War).

Syokool
2012-08-24, 07:10
I think she's Miyuki...

Mentar
2012-08-24, 07:16
I think she's Miyuki...

No. Her hair is way too wavy. Also, she's wearing a highschool bloom uniform, while Yokohma was in the past.

blackwhite67
2012-08-24, 07:23
Why would you think it's Muv-Luv :heh: ? Dengeki Bunko doesn't publish Total Eclipse :heh:

I thought Tatsuya looked like Yuuya Bridges with the suit and the coloring. Like I said initial impression.


He's just holding his black helmet.
2nd coming of Zero:heh:

This is Yokohama Wars, right?

His helmet? If that's it then why can I see his individual fingers? Looks like his stomach to me

Awrya
2012-08-24, 07:23
It's most likely Miyuki.
Tatsuya's and Miyuki's eye colour (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/5/5e/MKnR_v01_000f.jpg) are both blueish, while Mayumi's is red. In the cover, both eye colour are purplish (due to light effect?).
Besides, Mayumi had her cover in Vol.5, while Miyuki's last one was Vol.2, it's time she makes a comeback:heh:

Edit: His helmet? If that's it then why can I see his individual fingers? Looks like his stomach to me
We only see his thumb and index finger of his hand, the cover cuts there.
It's definitely not his stomach, the proportions just don't fit. There are two small gaps between his arms and helmet, which is the background, so if that is his stomach he pigged out a lot since last Volume.

Syokool
2012-08-24, 07:50
No. Her hair is way too wavy. Also, she's wearing a highschool bloom uniform, while Yokohma was in the past.

But, Saegusa-senpai has a hair ornament that the cover doesn't show, right?

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-08-24, 10:07
The cover is Tatsuya and Miyuki. Tatsuya is holding his helmet, since the suit is something similar to a rider suit, I believe. The girl in the background is Miyuki, since the skirt shows snowflakes (Miyuki's symbol). Mayumi's is some kinda autumn leaf or something of the sort?

Also, Mentar, Mayumi was in Yokohama Wars. Tatsuya goes off by himself, but Mayumi, Mari, and Suzune are with Miyuki's group. Yokohama is also during the present. The past arc is arc 4, which is a recollection of the Okinawa Invasion.

Okashira
2012-08-25, 03:00
Another chapter of volume 2 is done over at baka-tsuki

On his back, his sister's twin orbs were pressed against him

.......

for3ver
2012-08-25, 03:37
Another chapter of volume 2 is done over at baka-tsuki



.......

lol...

in what way did u read that sentence?

and in what way did i read that sentence due to your "......."

now... in what way will the next person read tht setence? ^^

Seitsuki
2012-08-25, 03:40
Heaven is a place on earth

Awrya
2012-08-25, 03:41
On his back, his sister's twin orbs were pressed against him
Now we are talking, what could they be:uhoh:

Nightengale
2012-08-25, 03:53
Kinda off-topic, but I'm just curious, given the atmosphere that's been constantly heavy over at both the manga/light novel thread...

I can't be only one who prefers Mari & Mayumi over Miyuki, right?

... right? :uhoh:

Chaos2Frozen
2012-08-25, 03:55
I can't be only one who prefers Mari & Mayumi over Miyuki, right?

... right? :uhoh:


NIGHTY RUN! You've just stirred the hornet's nest :eek: !

Seitsuki
2012-08-25, 03:56
*snaps on gloves*

Don't worry, we'll be veeeery gentle.

Now hold still, this is a delicate procedure.

FRS
2012-08-25, 06:37
Kinda off-topic, but I'm just curious, given the atmosphere that's been constantly heavy over at both the manga/light novel thread...

I can't be only one who prefers Mari & Mayumi over Miyuki, right?

... right? :uhoh:

I am a Mayumi fan myself but there is alot of Miyuki fan around here ;)

surerman
2012-08-25, 07:22
*snaps on gloves*

Don't worry, we'll be veeeery gentle.

Now hold still, this is a delicate procedure.

*hand Seitsu-bro my Metal Bat full of Nails* :D

here...already disinfected with alcohol
:p

I prefer Miyuki above anyone else in 1st high school....for now*ahem*;)

Mentar
2012-08-25, 08:18
But unlike other shows, I don't really feel any "negative" rivalry in my shipping. Personally, I'm rooting for Miyuki for a long list of reasons, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like Mayumi or Mari, too.

Example: One of my fiercest shipping contests was in Hayate no Gotoku at the end of the Greece arc. I was and still am a devoted Hina shipper, and while I was noncommital-neutral on Nagi, I fiercely resented Athena (and, to a lesser degree, still do). In Mahouka, pretty much all girls have their own appeal, and while I have my preferences, I don't have any dislikes.

As a character, Mayumi is great. Intelligent, playful, yet easily embarrassed, and I really like her genuine efforts to help people out and overcome the stupid bloom/weed divide. If she were to end up with Tatsuya, I would only mind that there's a worthier girl who has suffered through much more and tried much harder.

Mari is awesome (and hot as hell) and makes a great pair with Mayumi. What's not to like? But since she is already attached, there's not much shipping involved here :)

Miyuki is a special case for me. Sure, there are sides of her that I normally tend to disapprove of: Her possessiveness and jealousy. What more than offsets them however is my knowledge about her background and past - what she went (and still goes) through would emotionally warp anyone, yet she managed to stay kind and positive throughout. She's the girl who is going through the biggest ordeals to support and protect Tatsuya. And so, she's pretty much the only imouto character I can think of that I fully root for.

Syokool
2012-08-25, 10:16
Kinda off-topic, but I'm just curious, given the atmosphere that's been constantly heavy over at both the manga/light novel thread...

I can't be only one who prefers Mari & Mayumi over Miyuki, right?

... right? :uhoh:

I don't quite understand you. In wich way do you'd prefer Mari & Mayumi more?

As characters, or as the girl (Saegusa senpai) whou will end up together with Tatsuya?

I like this series because each character, including the males, have their own charm. And since there is no harem here, the plot focuses in the story development, making it a nice reading.


That said, I like Miyuki the most among the other girls, and even more after reading about her past with her Onii sama. As character, and as the girl who will end up with Tatsuya.
Mayumi senpai hasn't had much interaction with MC, compared with Honoka and Miyuki.

Nightengale
2012-08-25, 21:23
I don't quite understand you. In wich way do you'd prefer Mari & Mayumi more?

As characters, or as the girl (Saegusa senpai) whou will end up together with Tatsuya?

Broadly speaking, just characters. I'm not on-board the shipper's deck for any ships yet. While Miyuki's moments with Tatsuya where they act like shameless lovers are fun, it's not exactly at the level where I would want to ship them. ;)

And it's not like I dislike Miyuki or anything, pretty much most of the characters in Rettousei thus far is pretty likable with their own character traits, even if there's only just that at this point of time. ( since only the Shibalings have the time dedicated towards setting up the backstory drama at this point )...

Well, with the exception of everytime 'Hurr Bloom/Weed' gets brought up in some regard or respect.

It's not like I meant to spark anything in particular with that question, it just piqued my curiosity mainly because of the... somewhat... suffocating amounts of Miyuki love thrown around these parts. :uhoh:

*runs*

XenahortCharybdis
2012-08-27, 08:59
Broadly speaking, just characters. I'm not on-board the shipper's deck for any ships yet. While Miyuki's moments with Tatsuya where they act like shameless lovers are fun, it's not exactly at the level where I would want to ship them. ;)

And it's not like I dislike Miyuki or anything, pretty much most of the characters in Rettousei thus far is pretty likable with their own character traits, even if there's only just that at this point of time. ( since only the Shibalings have the time dedicated towards setting up the backstory drama at this point )...

Well, with the exception of everytime 'Hurr Bloom/Weed' gets brought up in some regard or respect.

It's not like I meant to spark anything in particular with that question, it just piqued my curiosity mainly because of the... somewhat... suffocating amounts of Miyuki love thrown around these parts. :uhoh:

*runs*

Wahaha~

Look who's stirring up this here coffee-cup storm. And calling them Shibalings indicates too much Starcraft for you. They'd be screaming for nerfs on the Zerg all over the known galaxy if that ever became a viable option for Hyper-Evolution.

Agreed with what you've been implying (or blatantly saying, depending which way you'd look at it) though, we still need more time for the dynamic between the characters we've come to be attached to in following this series to evolve and reach a new normal as the story develops.

Tatsuya's emotional development (hopefully it progresses beyond the 'hm-this-is-odd, or-is-it-interesting' level we're at now) would go a long way in changing this. I think someone mentioned some time back that the romantic subplot would serve as a yardstick for his development. It works backwards as well: his development would cause the subplot, no, much of the main plot too, to change, with Tatsuya seeing through different eyes, and in turn others seeing him differently as well, along with the whole damn Soul Train of new, alternative courses of action that can follow from there. In fact in the former case I quite suspect it's the only way we're going to see any meaningful development beyond the one-sided introspection of our hapless girls, and from there what we glean in the ever-so-slightly faulty dark rooms we call 'the reader's mind'.

Much rethinking will be in order to suit the gradually defrosting iceman: this Tatsuya will feel and handle very differently, I hope, please O author...and maybe some increased aggression to start titillating the readers? Ah, sweet unpredictability. Add that to a hopefully increased focus on the bigger picture from now on and hence much trickier situations for our merry band to get sucked into, and I suppose with that and then some the series will reach another level. To that end personally I'll wait and see.

In any case, I have been for a time now and still am partial to the Kaichou End, not least because I'm allergic to too much sugar-sweetness - there's too little dark in that particular corner of the (okay, fine, it's still developing) plot, and I'm waiting on the author to give me a good dose of it once we start getting to the nitty-gritty of Tatsuya's plan, and partially because up till now Saegusa's been entertaining me with her way of dancing around the whole issue. I'm curious as to where it will all go...and frankly will be sorely disappointed if she never gets the reveal about those double-entendres Tatsuya seems so wont to toss at her unawares *once he becomes aware that he's been throwing them around*. At the very least.

Nonetheless I'm okay with the author going whichever route he feels best so long as there's a good sense of closure to the whole subplot since by now there's too much material for it to not be closed without riotous protest, and yet too little for us to draw up any real battle-lines.

And it seems the same things still choke the Old Guards. Were we always like that, or did we have to work on it, I wonder? Wahaha~

Syokool
2012-08-27, 10:45
*cracking knuckles*

Hehe, I was just curious. I like Miyuki since web-vol 4, not at the very beginning btw.

Saegusa-senpai has her cute moments also, but there are not that many compared to Miyuki, and the story focuses in another things more than romance.


---

Now I remember, a friend of mine told me to read Denyu-Den, or something like that, after talk with her about this series. I haven't talked to her since a while, so I don't know about this series. Anyone can give me a little review or something?

kfcpanda
2012-08-27, 12:02
denyud-den as in the one related to densetsu no yusha?

Syokool
2012-08-27, 12:27
denyud-den as in the one related to densetsu no yusha?

No idea :heh:

She said something about magic, and an OP main character, but nothing more.

kfcpanda
2012-08-27, 16:46
there are quite a few that could fit :p

and this is one of them

Flere821
2012-08-28, 00:10
Denyuden, AKA 'legend of legendary heroes' ('densetsu yuusha no densetsu' in Japanese IIRC)? That one is good, a bit lot darker than this series, and I for one can never predict the plot twists. I haven't been following it though, I have no idea if it is still going.

EDIT: Shiiiiiii- It's still going and I've missed a BD special LN, another LN volume of the main plot, and what appears to be a Side Story. *headdesk* I'll get around to reading those 3... maybe... eventually...

larethian
2012-08-28, 01:20
*cracking knuckles*

Hehe, I was just curious. I like Miyuki since web-vol 4, not at the very beginning btw.

Saegusa-senpai has her cute moments also, but there are not that many compared to Miyuki, and the story focuses in another things more than romance.


---

Now I remember, a friend of mine told me to read Denyu-Den, or something like that, after talk with her about this series. I haven't talked to her since a while, so I don't know about this series. Anyone can give me a little review or something?

Denyuuden is GODLY (to me at least) (and if you ignore the weird prose). PERIOD. (And please don't read the wiki if you want some of your mind blown). Currently the series stands at 40 volumes including the side stories, but it's pretty easy to read.

And Flere, actually DYD doesn't have that many twists, it's just the scale of the story gets insanely bigger. Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi is the one with mindfuq twists. :heh:

kfcpanda
2012-08-28, 02:01
in terms of grittiness & quality, how would you guys compare denyuuden/mknr with others?

based on being able to read the actual text

larethian
2012-08-28, 03:49
in terms of grittiness & quality, how would you guys compare denyuuden/mknr with others?

based on being able to read the actual text

Mahouka is many times superior in prose and descriptions if we are comparing with DYD. However, the details can sometimes be overwhelming for the simplest of things (which is considered bad by some native readers). A third of the text in Mahouka is either setting or descriptions. The mechanisms also stem from believable science which makes it enjoyable and yet an occasional pain. The main draw of course is its overpowered protagonist (at least for the native readers), though despite the fact we know he's overpowered, it's strangely still entertaining. Mahouka uses 3rd person narration and a lot of parts trigger the readers to infer the traits of characters from their actions and behavior (which are described in great detail). In other words, there is a lot of show-not-tell employed to help the reader to understand the characters.

DYD has been rated as a series with one of the simplest and worst prose that you can ever have in a light novel (which also makes it somewhat hard to translate sometimes though, from a different end of the spectrum with an entirely different reason, unless you are fine with sacrificing English prose quality, like me). Except for heavy expositions, majority of the text is either dialogue or monologue making it relatively easy to read and zip through. Contrary to Mahouka, DYD employs the heavy use of monologue to help the reader to understand characters. As such, it offers a more intimate view into a character and allows the reader to better empathize with the characters. Even though it has prose issues, it is pretty well organized in terms of well-planned changing of perspectives at different points in the story (unlike Oda Nobuna, which has haphazard monologue). Obviously, it uses first-person narration. The draw of the series is that the setting grows to pretty humongous proportions and nearly the entire cast of supporting characters (and there are many of them) are very well fleshed out, partly attributed to the large number of side stories (currently standing at 18 volumes) and as well as the frequent change in POVs. Also, nearly every character goes through insane shit to make them the way they are, which makes it interesting to me. DYD is pretty underrated, mainly because most readers don't like the bad prose and the occasional facepalming descriptions despite the fact it clearly has a very engaging plot and well defined characters.

Alas I digress. But when we talk about writing, LN writers' writing are usually considered as subpar for one reason or another. And it's hard to compare to others when we don't know what 'others' you are referring to.

kfcpanda
2012-08-28, 04:08
ah, that's quite a nice explanation lare, i appreciate it thanks.

"others" as in series in the same genre of seinen fantasyish with specks of romance on the horizon

take seirei tsukai no blade dance/high school dxd/campione/kikou shoujo/ZnT/sword art online/accel world for other examples of the LN grouping (in my head at least)

Syokool
2012-08-28, 09:36
So, it's Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu, isn't it?

The Legend of the Legendary Hero/es?

I thought it was a Korean novel, and I don't like too much the old Korean stuff since the most always end with the worst possible ending.
Even now, there are a lot of doramas and some stuff that start well, but at the end, the plot gets screwed up :heh:

I will give it a read.


And yeah, Light Novels, in general, are not recognized as literature by a large group of writers.
I, for one of the fans of Monogatari series, am against that. It's true that there are a lot of LN that don't deserve to be neither in the top 20, nor the top 50 or 100. But there are some amusing titles, like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria, and this one with the complexity of its structure and descriptions.
Zaregoto, Monogatari, and so on.

Edit:

魔法科高校の劣等生(7) 横浜騒乱編<下> (Amazon)

http://i.imgur.com/WsKg3.jpg

http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4048867016/zgames01-22/

blackwhite67
2012-09-03, 14:00
Hey, I'm trying to convince a friend of mine to follow this series, but he's not much of a reader novel-wise. Anyone got any juicy/appealing pics or pieces of plot I should let him in on? I'm sending him an email.

Btw, do Tatsuya's squad members know about all his emotions besides sisterly love being erased? How fast is his healing ability exactly? I think I saw a mention of 0.2 seconds when he was healing others.

Syokool
2012-09-03, 14:09
This is something I posted in a Spa. forum:

Covers
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Volume 2

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Volume 3

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Volume 4

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Volume 5

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Accel World (anime)
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And now I do notice I have one volume more to update ;(

Mentar
2012-09-03, 14:23
Good lord, did YOU extract all that? O_o

Kudos for the mad work. Speaking about mad work, by the way... Yuutousei 4 wa doko da? ^_^

Awrya
2012-09-03, 16:22
Good lord, did YOU extract all that? O_o

Kudos for the mad work. Speaking about mad work, by the way... Yuutousei 4 wa doko da? ^_^

The manga thread would be a better place:p

@Syokool
I have seen the cover for Vol.6 somewhere, do you have the pics for Vol.6? Or has it only been announced but not published yet?

Syokool
2012-09-03, 17:36
I already have those pics ready to be posted, but I always forget to do that. Volume 7 will come out soon (see the cover in one of the posts above).

blackwhite67
2012-09-03, 18:03
@Syokool you only have the covers of 1-5, not 7

Syokool
2012-09-03, 19:01
魔法科高校の劣等生(7) 横浜騒乱編<下> (Amazon)

http://i.imgur.com/WsKg3.jpg

1urk3r
2012-09-03, 20:52
hmm can i safely assume that is the armor/helm from the web arc?
Makes me think of something yakumo would wear.....

peinmaximus@
2012-09-04, 20:36
hey,guys in this LN whom(what girls)is in love with MC?

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-05, 10:34
hey,guys in this LN whom(what girls)is in love with MC?

Miyuki (Sister > Woman love, in the state of potential switching), Honoka (Woman), Mayumi ("Sister" > Woman, she gets easily embarrassed around him, but that could be argued as her reacting to his blunt honesty, which I imagine is refreshing for her), and I guess Lina (She's confused on her feelings in general, I believe). The cousin also likes Tatsuya, but she's a minor character.

waffler
2012-09-08, 01:07
Does anyone know what the new volumes about?

Awrya
2012-09-08, 06:11
Should be Yokohama wars I think, based on the cover.

Syokool
2012-09-08, 09:06
横浜騒乱編: Yokohama's disturbances arc.

Mura
2012-09-09, 20:00
http://subcultureblog.blog114.fc2.com/blog-entry-8739.html

I'm using google translator to see what this says but it appears to be a audio drama on DVD?

larethian
2012-09-09, 20:42
^ it could mean that it's going to be a long audio drama :D
And woah, Nakamura Yuuichi does fit Tatsuya yay! Hayami Saori :love: ? Didn't really expect her, but then again I don't know who to expect and she does seem like a good choice. I've been missing her voice in major roles for a long time. Sounds like I'll be getting it :D

blackwhite67
2012-09-09, 20:55
I've always thought of Tatsuya as Ryo Katsuji, the guy who played the main character in un-go. The main character from un-go looked a lot like Tatsuya. Hayami Saori as Miyuki? Hm. I was hoping for something a little more high pitched.

Btw, can anyone tell me what Gaiden: Mahouka Koukou no Shounen Shoujo is about?

Mura
2012-09-09, 21:04
Whenever I think of Nakamura I think of his role as Houtarou. I can see it well when I think of Tatsuya.

Mentar
2012-09-09, 21:08
I think that Hayami Saori will be PERFECT as Miyuki, she only needs to channel OreImo's Aragaki Ayase. Keep in mind, she isn't just merely a high-pitched sweet cutie-pie, this girl has _teeth_ when needed.

Syokool
2012-09-09, 23:08
^ it could mean that it's going to be a long audio drama :D
And woah, Nakamura Yuuichi does fit Tatsuya yay! Hayami Saori :love: ? Didn't really expect her, but then again I don't know who to expect and she does seem like a good choice. I've been missing her voice in major roles for a long time. Sounds like I'll be getting it :D

In the last part of volume 7, u can read the dorama DVD will be published with the next volume in December and the new series that will start the next month.

Hope to see a good response that can make real my dream of an anime.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-09, 23:20
An anime would be good XD since the novel's art is done by the same person who did code geass, that will be interesting~

XxSleepyxX
2012-09-10, 02:18
An anime would be good XD since the novel's art is done by the same person who did code geass, that will be interesting~

Not really. The artist might of worked on some of the art but the majority of the art was done by clamp. Yeah its going to get an adaption, but I don't think it'll be anytime soon. Their going to dumb it down a lot if they planning on animating it.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-10, 02:21
Web 01 - 06 , and the seventh volume out right now is at web 03, so if they are animating it, they will probably either need a lot of episodes, or end it at web 01 - 02 which is novel vol 1-4

kfcpanda
2012-09-10, 02:50
not necessarily.

1st episode covers intro to magic academy, everything up until hattori confrontation.
2nd episode covers hattori confrontation and extends until the whole sayaka/kendo thing is resolved.
3rd+4th episodes cover & wrap up blache.

& so on

though this would end up being about 24 episodes which is standard?? for a medium length anime series.
assuming that typical short ones have 12/13, medium is 24-25, and longer ones contain just multiple seasons of the 24-25 format


personally i hope that if/when this gets an anime it gets 2x24 :D

xBakaChanx
2012-09-10, 02:53
not necessarily.

1st episode covers intro to magic academy, everything up until hattori confrontation.
2nd episode covers hattori confrontation and extends until the whole sayaka/kendo thing is resolved.
3rd+4th episodes cover & wrap up blache.

& so on

though this would end up being about 24 episodes which is standard?? for a medium length anime series.
assuming that typical short ones have 12/13, medium is 24-25, and longer ones contain just multiple seasons of the 24-25 format


personally i hope that if/when this gets an anime it gets 2x24 :D

But if they only cover up to that far, then a lot of stuff would remain unsolved at the end of the series that requires a season 2...
Like the whole background about the main character's family and how he ended up being like that, as well as many questions about the ten families that would be remained unsolved

We all know that Vol 5 will be those "extra" in those anime XD

blackwhite67
2012-09-10, 14:33
An anime would be good XD since the novel's art is done by the same person who did code geass, that will be interesting~

Ohhh! That explains why the characters look so skinny sometimes.

I think everyone will agree that a series as consistent and with as much depth as this one will require AT LEAST 24 episodes for a first season.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-10, 14:39
Ohhh! That explains why the characters look so skinny sometimes.

I think everyone will agree that a series as consistent and with as much depth as this one will require AT LEAST 24 episodes for a first season.

This novel is one that explains a lot behind how the magic and the logic behind it works, so im guessing the anime will need to include A LOT of talking and explaination in order to explain how most things happen in the story, and if its only around 12 ep it's most likely going to end up leaving quite a lot unexplained? (Imo)

Syokool
2012-09-10, 14:56
This novel is one that explains a lot behind how the magic and the logic behind it works, so im guessing the anime will need to include A LOT of talking and explaination in order to explain how most things happen in the story, and if its only around 12 ep it's most likely going to end up leaving quite a lot unexplained? (Imo)

Not that much.

I think, the anime could skip most of that explanations, like the manga does.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-10, 15:00
Not that much.

I think, the anime could skip most of that explanations, like the manga does.

Really? It seem quite a lot compare to other novels to me ~ just different opinions I guess.. but if they are making an anime and don't end up far enough to explain about Tatsuya's "Body" it will be quite a let down

blackwhite67
2012-09-10, 15:04
Don't worry. If they make an anime, Tatsuya's powers have to be #1 on the list of things to include. I'm sure that they can skip a lot of the explanations just like they did with SAO.

Btw, do people sub drama CDs?

xBakaChanx
2012-09-10, 15:06
Don't worry. If they make an anime, Tatsuya's powers have to be #1 on the list of things to include. I'm sure that they can skip a lot of the explanations just like they did with SAO.

Btw, do people sub drama CDs?

I've seen some on youtube, but they are quite rare (at least to the extent of my knowledge) Lol Tatsuya's body is a major part in the novel tho =I I sure don't want them skipping that~

Syokool
2012-09-10, 15:22
Really? It seem quite a lot compare to other novels to me ~ just different opinions I guess.. but if they are making an anime and don't end up far enough to explain about Tatsuya's "Body" it will be quite a let down

Hard to say what will be better, since the explanations and the narration are in 3rd. person, so I found this a little hard to adapt.

Anyway, I was talking about the extension of those text walls in the LN. Manga has proved those explanations can be compressed without further ado with images and less words.

It will be boring to have half of a chapter only about magic mechanics and so.

tsunade666
2012-09-10, 20:31
Don't worry. If they make an anime, Tatsuya's powers have to be #1 on the list of things to include. I'm sure that they can skip a lot of the explanations just like they did with SAO.


I think there is a big difference from SAO and Mahouka's way of explanation. SAO anime can probably ignore some explanation but if that happen to Mahouka which is explanation heavy then the work will loose its own uniqueness and its charm. Even though reading a wall of text is taxing, the part where it vastly explains its setting is needed for the setting to makes sense. Since unlike SAO. Battle in Mahouka ends fast with Tatsuya ending it in an instant then after that a bunch of wall of text to explain how he dominates his opponent.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-10, 20:38
I think there is a big difference from SAO and Mahouka's way of explanation. SAO anime can probably ignore some explanation but if that happen to Mahouka which is explanation heavy then the work will loose its own uniqueness and its charm. Even though reading a wall of text is taxing, the part where it vastly explains its setting is needed for the setting to makes sense. Since unlike SAO. Battle in Mahouka ends fast with Tatsuya ending it in an instant then after that a bunch of wall of text to explain how he dominates his opponent.

Yaaa I feel the same way ^^ a lot of CAD that the students made or use requires explanation to how they function, as well as most fights in the novel is followed up by an explanation of "what happened"

blackwhite67
2012-09-10, 21:17
Hey, I've been wondering how back in web arc 3 Tatsuya caught bullets with his bare hands? I know he used his decomposition magic, but how would that work? Also, he used it in front of everyone and no one noticed?

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-11, 07:35
Hey, I've been wondering how back in web arc 3 Tatsuya caught bullets with his bare hands? I know he used his decomposition magic, but how would that work? Also, he used it in front of everyone and no one noticed?

I can't say for sure, but from what I remember, it seemed like he caught them by decomposing their motion vector. Remember, his decomposition doesn't work against just magic but solid objects, and unlike many magicians, I believe he can use partial decomposition due to his unique skills (though I'm not sure if this is anything like Kichijouji's Basic Code deal). That was my take on it, at least. I believe that portion was somewhat difficult to read. Actually, that scene was the first of MKnR I ever read, so I wasn't really good at interpreting the machine translations. Also, there was little extra detail to help me infer what may have happened.

SoFarGone
2012-09-11, 14:39
Are there images of Mayumi's twin sisters? I don't remember seeing them.

whsie
2012-09-11, 14:47
Are there images of Mayumi's twin sisters? I don't remember seeing them.

Not yet, but there is a description of their personality and hairstyle. One is a tomboy who likes to hang out with the boys while the other is a conservative and romantic loving girl. The tomboy has a short cut while the other has a bob haircut (if you don't know what that looks like, google it). The two of them are highly mischievous around their sister.

blackwhite67
2012-09-11, 15:23
I can't say for sure, but from what I remember, it seemed like he caught them by decomposing their motion vector. Remember, his decomposition doesn't work against just magic but solid objects, and unlike many magicians, I believe he can use partial decomposition due to his unique skills (though I'm not sure if this is anything like Kichijouji's Basic Code deal). That was my take on it, at least. I believe that portion was somewhat difficult to read. Actually, that scene was the first of MKnR I ever read, so I wasn't really good at interpreting the machine translations. Also, there was little extra detail to help me infer what may have happened.

He can decompose things like vectors? That opens up new possibilities.

Awrya
2012-09-11, 15:50
I can't say for sure, but from what I remember, it seemed like he caught them by decomposing their motion vector. Remember, his decomposition doesn't work against just magic but solid objects, and unlike many magicians, I believe he can use partial decomposition due to his unique skills (though I'm not sure if this is anything like Kichijouji's Basic Code deal). That was my take on it, at least. I believe that portion was somewhat difficult to read. Actually, that scene was the first of MKnR I ever read, so I wasn't really good at interpreting the machine translations. Also, there was little extra detail to help me infer what may have happened.

The first thing that came to mind was that Tatsuya might be a good match-up with Accelerator:heh:

My sources of information are your summaries, but in web arc 1 you mentioned what happens when using decomposition magic on solid objects
What Tatsuya had done was used his decomposition magic on the objects, which causes them to break down into their individual
components (bolts, screws, springs...) Apparently when he uses his Decomposition magic on Objects, the objects will separate into
whatever makes them.
So maybe he used strong deceleration magic instead?

blackwhite67
2012-09-11, 16:01
There's no way he can cast a magic like that faster than a bullet.

Maybe he just decomposed the bullets completely and regenerated them in his hand. I remember him doing something like that with the bullets he used to destroy the Chinese fleet in Arc 4.

whsie
2012-09-11, 16:49
There's no way he can cast a magic like that faster than a bullet.

Maybe he just decomposed the bullets completely and regenerated them in his hand. I remember him doing something like that with the bullets he used to destroy the Chinese fleet in Arc 4.

You seem to forget that decomposition is an innate magic for him. He can activate it faster than the blink of an eye since the magic is seemingly "wired" to his brain. If he wanted to, he most definitely could decompose a bullet in flight. When he used restoration (his other innate magic) in the School Tournament Arc, he was able to activate it so fast that no one was able to even notice it. Remember, the audience include thousands of students and there were a handful of elite experts. Even the two undercover soldiers didn't catch the magic and wouldn't have known it activated if they didn't know about Tatsuya's ability beforehand. Even a person with a trained eye such as Kazuto's couldn't explain what happened.

blackwhite67
2012-09-11, 18:05
No no whsie. I was referring to Awrya's suggestion that he used deceleration magic on the bullets. Even if deceleration was less than five steps, he wouldn't use flash cast in front of everyone like that.

Flere821
2012-09-12, 02:22
No no whsie. I was referring to Awrya's suggestion that he used deceleration magic on the bullets. Even if deceleration was less than five steps, he wouldn't use flash cast in front of everyone like that.
The guy used Flash Cast in the Nine School Battle Monolith Code finals, and Mist Dispersion in front of 'Cardinal George'... I wouldn't count on him not using top secret magic in front of others :heh: As long as he has a way to fool other people into thinking he used other stuff, he'd pull out the top secret magic (Nine School Battle, a CAD on his hand + single component spell disguised the Flash Cast; Mist Dispersion, he made it look like Sirius' mono-molecular blade magic cutting through things when it was just layer of Mist Dispersion casted on his palm).

whsie
2012-09-12, 03:35
While his innate magic is a secret, it doesn't matter if no one noticed it. As mentioned, he used those magic in front of people several times, but the audience could never understand exactly what happened.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-12, 04:18
While his innate magic is a secret, it doesn't matter if no one noticed it. As mentioned, he used those magic in front of people several times, but the audience could never understand exactly what happened.

Ya like when he uses his self healing in vol 4 and partically no one even noticed what was going on, since his magic is military secret he's not allowed to let anyone know about it

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-12, 06:01
Did he use Mist Dispersion on his hand? I suppose he did use human decomposition, but I thought MD was referring to more of a pin-point thing rather than human decomposition as a whole. Trident is also human decomposition, after all.

Also, whsie, I don't think he would take the risk if he could avoid it. He will use his restricted magic, but only when he has no other choice to achieve what he wants/must and he can cover it up. He used flash cast against Crimson because it was necessary for victory and he could disguise it with the extremely basic Vibration Magic (I think that's what it was. Too lazy to check). I just don't think he would take the risk otherwise (as in, he could kill the soldier without using Flash Cast).

As for Regrowth, he has no choice. It's entirely subconscious unless he stops it. I gave the number as 0.2 (since that's roughly how the math worked out), but it's probably activated in a much shorter time period, since a lot of that 0.2 second time period is spent reading the Eidos. I would say the casting is actually near instantaneous without that reading period, which is why the two soldiers didn't feel a flow of magic.

Sixth
2012-09-12, 06:21
Ummm...how old is the MC? I read some info from the wiki, and it stated that he is freaking captain of some assassin group, and a leader of some kind of research technology center under the codename "Silver".

What the hell?

Seitsuki
2012-09-12, 06:26
16 at the start of the story. Yeah, he's just that good.

Which means there's only one person good enough to match him. Also conveniently currently the closest person to him. Sec, gotta wipe my nose.

Sixth
2012-09-12, 06:28
16 at the start of the story.

Yeah, he's just that good.

So, is it OK for me to label him as "Gary Stu"?

Seitsuki
2012-09-12, 06:33
I suppose there are elements of that. However I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. The '(tragic) flawed hero' trope is just as bad. His character does get expounded on extensively later. It's also far more entertaining to read this way. As long as you don't say a word concerning Her Highness, all's fair.

willx
2012-09-12, 09:19
So, is it OK for me to label him as "Gary Stu"?

Power-level wise? Definitely yes. Still not sure it's the right label for him though cause he's still super flawed.. He has no strong emotions so he's almost always composed.. but he can't even get properly aroused..

I'm not sure anyone that has any real interest in the opposite gender would ever think of being him as "wish fulfillment" -- this is also bad news for all the people shipping Tatsuya x Anyone.

xBakaChanx
2012-09-12, 18:36
Ummm...how old is the MC? I read some info from the wiki, and it stated that he is freaking captain of some assassin group, and a leader of some kind of research technology center under the codename "Silver".

What the hell?

He's the guy who advanced the CAD technology 10 years into the future, not many know it tho.

NeutralZero
2012-09-13, 11:33
Say, over the course of the story up to the current volume, did the Blooms in general had a change of heart on how they treat and view the Weeds especially Tatsuya?

whsie
2012-09-13, 12:12
Say, over the course of the story up to the current volume, did the Blooms in general had a change of heart on how they treat and view the Weeds especially Tatsuya?

Nope. The Blooms (with the exception of the Council) are still the same arrogant j-as*es. Morisaki the D-bag is still representative of the Blooms' attitude toward Weeds.

Even when Tatsuya performed miracles during the 9 School Tournament, the other 8 schools thought Tatsuya was a Bloom because his shirt was that of a Bloom. Tatsuya may have been popular with the girls of his own school (whom all wondered how the hell Tatsuya was a Weed), but the guys were filled with jealousy and rage.

DarkDooM
2012-09-13, 12:57
what ignorant brats :P

but now that u mention Morisaki, have there been more scenes of him being a complete douchebag in the later arcs as well? i think there was even a side story about him

whsie
2012-09-13, 13:24
what ignorant brats :P

but now that u mention Morisaki, have there been more scenes of him being a complete douchebag in the later arcs as well? i think there was even a side story about him

I don't really remember Morisaki showing up later. He didn't show up much after the tournament where he was gloriously caved in by the ceiling and hence out of commission for the remainder of the Monolith Code Competition (Tatsuya + 2 Weeds replace the team). People were like wtf, an technician and two guys who weren't even on the original tournament team?

There is a SS about Morisaki. It mostly explores his background where we learn that his family is into the security/bodyguard business. He himself became a bodyguard for an American girl as she was chased by Japanese authorities throughout the city. It was a so-so SS.

Mentar
2012-09-13, 13:28
Nope. The Blooms (with the exception of the Council) are still the same arrogant j-as*es. Morisaki the D-bag is still representative of the Blooms' attitude toward Weeds.

Even when Tatsuya performed miracles during the 9 School Tournament, the other 8 schools thought Tatsuya was a Bloom because his shirt was that of a Bloom. Tatsuya may have been popular with the girls of his own school (whom all wondered how the hell Tatsuya was a Weed), but the guys were filled with jealousy and rage.

It should be mentioned though that during the student council election arc, Mayumi's anti-discrimination policy allowing weeds to serve in the student council too got the majority, so it's fair to assume that at least a part of the blooms are no D-bags like Morisaki.

There's been one cute scene during the 9 school tournament where some girl participant (I think it was Eimi) was "thanking" the male first-years for "giving Tatsuya to the girls". Morisaki busted a gut and left seething ^_^ ... so, the bloom douches get their just deserts.

blackwhite67
2012-09-13, 15:11
Im sorry for asking but when does volume 7 come out again?

Syokool
2012-09-13, 15:13
It's out already.

blackwhite67
2012-09-13, 17:47
Thanks. Anyone know where I can download it? I cant find it on Jcafe

DarkDooM
2012-09-13, 21:02
I don't really remember Morisaki showing up later. He didn't show up much after the tournament where he was gloriously caved in by the ceiling and hence out of commission for the remainder of the Monolith Code Competition (Tatsuya + 2 Weeds replace the team). People were like wtf, an technician and two guys who weren't even on the original tournament team?

There is a SS about Morisaki. It mostly explores his background where we learn that his family is into the security/bodyguard business. He himself became a bodyguard for an American girl as she was chased by Japanese authorities throughout the city. It was a so-so SS.

Oh my, that poor girl
Not only being chased by the japanese authorities but also being molested by a douchebag

Is there a summary about that SS?
And also, how many side stories does mahouka have? I think the only ones i know are the one about mayumi, this one about morisaki and then there was this beach side story, right? Are there any more?

blackwhite67
2012-09-13, 21:21
Amazingly, this story makes Morisaki look good. I know. I couldn't believe it either, but supposedly the girl refused to retaliate against Japan claiming that there were honorable people there, yes Morisaki.

He is still a d-bag

BTW, could someone who's read vol 5 tell me who the freak in the mask was?

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-14, 05:41
Oh my, that poor girl
Not only being chased by the japanese authorities but also being molested by a douchebag

Is there a summary about that SS?
And also, how many side stories does mahouka have? I think the only ones i know are the one about mayumi, this one about morisaki and then there was this beach side story, right? Are there any more?
Yeah, I got through about a third of it (have a summary for that third as well, but it's uneventful) and then got tired of it because it's Morisaki and stopped reading it. Whoops. Someone give me Mayumi or Miyuki. I can't keep my interest in a story without them (since I pretty much blitzed through all the web arcs in one go).

DarkDooM
2012-09-14, 05:51
Thanks. Anyone know where I can download it? I cant find it on Jcafe

its out but hasnt been scanned yet

Amazingly, this story makes Morisaki look good. I know. I couldn't believe it either, but supposedly the girl refused to retaliate against Japan claiming that there were honorable people there, yes Morisaki.

i didnt know the girl was mentally handicapped :eyespin:

NeutralZero
2012-09-14, 07:40
Don't think the girl is mentally handicapped...
Its just that she didn't fully saw his entire personality...
In the same case the same thing can be said to his character...
He's a douche bag in terms of the Bloom ego, has a lot of pride and arrogance in it (as a bloom and member of his family/house) that makes him very^10 unlikable and in the same time honorable as portrait in that SS...
It's just that she didn't fully saw how much of an arrogant brat he is...

Syokool
2012-09-17, 09:18
Anyone knows who is the artist of this?

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269055_478346575522545_1383140666_n.jpg

willx
2012-09-17, 09:49
^ Geez, you people need to calm down with the Morisaki hate.

I'm not saying I didn't dislike his attitude, but in nearly every single manga where there is a theme of "someone looks down the MC due to status or power and is proven to be wrong" -- quite a few people immediately jump to hate and rage and name calling.

There are usually reasons behind their attitudes, and in most stories, once they learn the facts they change their mind and are generally not bad people themselves.

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-17, 19:16
Anyone knows who is the artist of this?

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269055_478346575522545_1383140666_n.jpg
According to pixiv, the artist goes by SBS? I think it's a random person. pixiv id = 946868

^ Geez, you people need to calm down with the Morisaki hate.

I'm not saying I didn't dislike his attitude, but in nearly every single manga where there is a theme of "someone looks down the MC due to status or power and is proven to be wrong" -- quite a few people immediately jump to hate and rage and name calling.

There are usually reasons behind their attitudes, and in most stories, once they learn the facts they change their mind and are generally not bad people themselves.As for this, yes, there usually is a reason, but it was pretty clear his issue was a superiority complex. Someone who has a reason would not outright reject, and even attack, another person just because she was "inferior" (I refer to the issue with Mizuki when she points out they aren't that much different since they're both first years who have just started). There's quite a difference between confidence in one's ability and hubris. Because he attempted to attack the Course 2 students, I would have to think he's more of the latter.

There's also the issue that the author has not written too much about Morisaki. There is a short story devoted to him, but there's too big a gap between how he acts toward Tatsuya and how he acts towards that one girl (whose name I have forgotten). There needs to be more detail regarding the relationship between him and Tatsuya to properly resolve the Morisaki hate. All we have right now is that he avoids Tatsuya on Disciplinary Committee rounds.

blackwhite67
2012-09-17, 19:55
Clearly the majority of us and all readers will continue to despise Morisaki. Anyone beginning to think that there are one too many characters in the story? I mean, anyone having trouble remembering a character"s name? If the author doesn't start slowing down and start focusing in on the remaining characters, we will never see more of Morisaki and, as EnigmaticAxiom said, we need more detail on their relationship.

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-17, 20:19
Clearly the majority of us and all readers will continue to despise Morisaki. Anyone beginning to think that there are one too many characters in the story? I mean, anyone having trouble remembering a character"s name? If the author doesn't start slowing down and start focusing in on the remaining characters, we will never see more of Morisaki and, as EnigmaticAxiom said. we need more detail on their relationship.

It's MAN LOVE ACTION! Let's do a dance.

Flere821
2012-09-18, 01:58
Clearly the majority of us and all readers will continue to despise Morisaki. Anyone beginning to think that there are one too many characters in the story? I mean, anyone having trouble remembering a character"s name?
I don't, but that might just be me ^^; The only problem with names I have is I'm reading the LNs in Chinese and half the time I need to think before I know who you guys are talking about in English :heh:

Seitsuki
2012-09-18, 02:04
Me! Me! I only properly learnt the name of those two lolis in Miyuki's class last week! I also know there's some ancient spiritualist guy, some girl with psychic 'calming' (?) abilities in the student council, some upperclassmen who were doing research on the generator thing, and on, but hell if I can remember their names..

Although of course, there's only one name which really matters anyway.

FRS
2012-09-18, 03:21
Chapter 10 has been translated, that was a fun read, cant wait for the next one.

Syokool
2012-09-18, 07:44
I don't, but that might just be me ^^; The only problem with names I have is I'm reading the LNs in Chinese and half the time I need to think before I know who you guys are talking about in English :heh:

Are different the characters' names in Chinese?

Even in Japanese I forgot who is who. At least I recall the important ones, but sometimes I had to re-read to remember a specific character. It happened to me with Oda Nobuna. (i.e., Mutsuhide, Katsuie, Nagahide, etc.).
I guess it's a matter of time.

Also, manga and illustrations help so much with this :p

whsie
2012-09-18, 09:33
No, the names aren't different. The characters we use to for names are 90% + similar. So the problem isn't there. It's the phonetic pronunciation that's REALLY different. You can say Ichigou and I would have no clue that you're referring to the future successor of the One Family.

Syokool
2012-09-18, 09:40
Ehehe :D

I'd like to know how do you pronounce "Miyuki" (深雪)or "Tatsuya" (達也), just out of curiosity.

whsie
2012-09-18, 10:43
Ehehe :D

I'd like to know how do you pronounce "Miyuki" (深雪)or "Tatsuya" (達也), just out of curiosity.

Miyuki would be Shen Xue. Tatsuya would be Da Ye.

And that's how I read it. See? Exact same character. Totally different pronunciation.

Kleeyook
2012-09-18, 10:57
^^ Man, that was quite annoying. It's like the series is getting localized in Chinese. ^^

whsie
2012-09-18, 11:12
^^ Man, that was quite annoying. It's like the series is getting localized in Chinese. ^^

Generally speaking, there's less localization needed from Japanese to Chinese than Japanese to any other language. The sentence structure and idioms are similar enough. The differences lie in the diction and honorifics. The honorifics can easily be handled. The part people have to be careful when translating from Japanese to Chinese is the diction. While some Japanese characters are written in the exact same manner, they're used differently.

For example, 有料,无料 means service charge and free respectively in Japanese. In Chinese, it means if you have the materials (for making food or whatever) or not. In Chinese, you're more likely to see 收费, 免费. Same characters, didn't ways of usage.

Syokool
2012-09-18, 11:44
Is that so?

Then, how do you do when watch anime? I can't imagine their names with different pronunciation :p

I was learning some words in Chinese, and some of them have the same meaning as the Japanese counterpart, but I did quit after a while since it's much more easier to read Japanese to me.

Kleeyook
2012-09-18, 12:24
I don't want to offend anyone here but I find Chinese names to not have the same impact as Japanese names when written in Latin alphabet. I find it kind of weird.

whsie
2012-09-18, 12:41
Is that so?

Then, how do you do when watch anime? I can't imagine their names with different pronunciation :p

I was learning some words in Chinese, and some of them have the same meaning as the Japanese counterpart, but I did quit after a while since it's much more easier to read Japanese to me.

Actually, more than half of the Chinese characters have the same meaning as their Japanese counterpart. For Chinese readers trying to read Japanese, it's about isolating which characters are the exception.

And I'm not 100% sure about Japanese, but from what someone told me, Japanese in its written form is essentially a hybrid of a character and syllabic language. For the average Joe, I prefer to think of Chinese as a pure character language and English as a pure syllabic language. In Chinese, the character represents a certain meaning and has no direct relation to how it's pronounced in real life. How a character is pronounced is represented in its zhuyin or pinyin (the Chinese "alphabet" so to speak) forms. Whereas in English how we speak is directly related to how we write, which would be similar to writing Chinese in its zhuyin or pinyin form.

Japanese from what I know mixes the two with kanji as its character base and then the katakana and hiragana as its syllabic base. So when one is writing or reading Japanese, one is constantly switching from a character to syllabic form and vice versa.

For Japanese to Chinese translators, the key would to know A) the differences in the usage of the kanji. Most of it is the same, but there are exceptions. B) understand the syllabic base of Japanese and what idea is represented by it. More often than not, it's the second part that frustrates native Chinese speakers. Kanji, which is considered the difficult part of learning Japanese in Japan, is considered the easier part.

Yeah, when I watch anime, I just go by the subtitles. I may recognize certain phrases (e.g. arigato goizamsu, sayonora, konbawa, etc) but I have trouble linking them together. Those don't in any way sound close to their Chinese counterparts.

As a few more examples, Takeda Shingen is Wu Tian Xing Xuan, Oba Nobunaga is Zhi Tian Xing Chang, Toyotomi Hideyoshi is Feng Cheng Xiu Ji, Tokugawa Ieyasu is De Chuan Jia Kang. That's how we read the various Japanese figures in Chinese.

I don't want to offend anyone here but I find Chinese names to not have the same impact as Japanese names when written in Latin alphabet. I find it kind of weird.

I think my second paragraph should explain why. Chinese names don't care about their phonetic sound, but rather the meaning behind those characters.

Syokool
2012-09-18, 13:09
One thing that makes difficult to translate some parts from Japanese is indeed the fact that there are words with the same pronunciation, but different writing, so when there is a word written in hiragana or katakana (and it isn't a foreign word adapted to Japanese pronunciation) you have to think in the meaning if it isn't an obvious word, or a name.

One example could be some dialogs when one person says something, and the other understands one thing based in the usual meaning of that word, which leads to a lot of puns and comedy shows :D

Sometimes, the meaning of one kanji can be so much helpful when there are new words (as in this series) so we only need to separate the word or just go by the meaning of each one and form the English word, which is difficult in a sense.

In Spanish things are just great, pronunciation is quit rich, so there are no problem with adapting names, it is somehow contextual, and the several grammatical rules makes easy to portray the nuance and the word play.
That's why I switched from Jap-Eng to Jap-Spa.


Which makes easier to read and tl is the most of books you read. For LN, manga, and others you will have to learn more vocabulary and some slangs that you won't see in a Japanesse class btw.

Flere821
2012-09-19, 01:27
Are different the characters' names in Chinese?

Even in Japanese I forgot who is who. At least I recall the important ones, but sometimes I had to re-read to remember a specific character. It happened to me with Oda Nobuna. (i.e., Mutsuhide, Katsuie, Nagahide, etc.).
I guess it's a matter of time.

Also, manga and illustrations help so much with this :p
For me, it's mostly a text matter - for example, it took me a while to match '深雪' with Miyuki, as I had not bothered to find out what it might have be spelled in a different language :heh:

Syokool
2012-09-20, 13:38
I can't! :heh:

At least that helps me when watching anime.

---
http://dengekiya.com/upload/save_image/69/main_3669_270x270.jpgRegarding the dorama DVD, you already can make a reservation here: dengekiya (http://dengekiya.com/p/4942330054314/)

And here's the announcement in vol.7:

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/Syokool/677557_zpsb4b4a53a.jpg

3,500円 if you are interested.

Btw, I will make the first picture my new avatar :D

blackwhite67
2012-09-20, 19:06
God I hope someone subs the drama cd

Seitsuki
2012-09-20, 19:14
Hayami Saori huh?

This should be interesting. Show me a voice worthy of Her Highness!

surerman
2012-09-21, 05:35
just read chapter 10, when they enter the vehicle to go to battlefield, I play "In da Club" of 50cent.......now that's perfect! :D
hope it's appear in the anime too

Mentar
2012-09-21, 06:51
Hayami Saori huh?

This should be interesting. Show me a voice worthy of Her Highness!

I already hear her Ayase from OreImo ;) ... who also knows all too well to switch between Angel and Demon!

BTW: Any idea when you'll be able to tackle Yuutousei 4? *hint hint*

Syokool
2012-09-21, 07:30
Hayami Saori huh?

This should be interesting. Show me a voice worthy of Her Highness!

I thought you have a thing with 'Older sisters' or so :heh:

I already hear her Ayase from OreImo ;) ... who also knows all too well to switch between Angel and Demon!

BTW: Any idea when you'll be able to tackle Yuutousei 4? *hint hint*

His part is done, my part also, but I'm waiting for Rettousei to comes up first, then one week after that I'll release the chapter (tough I haven't sent the chapter for revision yet :p).

Since this moth there is no Yuutousei, we already have caught up with the magazine.

That also gives me time to prepare the batch of files with those chapters deleted in the previous mirrors.

Mentar
2012-09-21, 09:06
His part is done, my part also, but I'm waiting for Rettousei to come up first, then one week after that I'll release the chapter (tough I haven't sent the chapter for revision yet :p).

Excuses! Rrrr! *eyes the cattle prod in his hand uncertainly*

Since this moth there is no Yuutousei, we already have caught up with the magazine.

Nope, you won't have. Yuutousei 5 comes out in less than a week.

Renegade334
2012-09-21, 09:15
Another version of the announcement (click to open) - not sure whether the left side has something new:

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/6336/000bga.th.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1d7ed211563143)

And, yeah, you know where to get the rest of the volume...

EDIT: okay, ImageShack fail...lemme reup that.
EDIT: fixed.

Syokool
2012-09-21, 09:16
Nope, you won't have. Yuutousei 5 comes out in less than a week.

Shhh! I wanted it to be a 'surprise' for Seitsuki :D

Another version of the announcement (click to open) - not sure whether the left side has something new:

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/6336/000bga.th.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1d7ed211563143)

And, yeah, you know where to get the rest of the volume...

EDIT: okay, ImageShack fail...lemme reup that.
EDIT: fixed.

Basically the same. Also, Dengeki Bunko will have a special event (see their web page).

Seitsuki
2012-09-21, 14:05
I thought you have a thing with 'Older sisters' or so :heh:

I do! Onee sans are just wonderful.. those cool serene eyes.. that calm mature air.. there's no way imoutos could normally compare, but Miyuki transcends imouto-hood into something much greater, and.. er.. eh. All hail.

Shhh! I wanted it to be a 'surprise' for Seitsuki

*k chack*

blackwhite67
2012-09-21, 14:59
It happened again. Another cameo appearance in the last episode of Accel World 21:45.

Syokool
2012-09-21, 15:05
I do! Onee sans are just wonderful.. those cool serene eyes.. that calm mature air.. there's no way imoutos could normally compare, but Miyuki transcends imouto-hood into something much greater, and.. er.. eh. All hail.

Mmm, yeah. I'm a perv, so anything is fine with me, if it's only related to females of course.

Btw, three of my friends don't like Miyuki. I'm a bit disappointed with them :(

It happened again. Another cameo appearance in the last episode of Accel World 21:45.

An image plz!!!

blackwhite67
2012-09-21, 15:17
You can find vol 7 on Jcafe. So that's Fujibayashi. Hmm. I always imagined her with short hair. Man, Tatusya's helmet looks sweet! Who's the monkey in the armor?

I don't know how to take screenshots of videos, but I know someone on this thread posted every cameo appearance. The one I'm talking about is the same as the very first cameo appearance only at dusk when the sun is setting.

Drkz
2012-09-22, 05:59
Mmm, yeah. I'm a perv, so anything is fine with me, if it's only related to females of course.

Btw, three of my friends don't like Miyuki. I'm a bit disappointed with them :(



An image plz!!!

They reused the same ad from the earlier AW episode. They just cropped it and made it smaller.

Theres hope for a anime! WOOOPIE! Its just... they need to make it easy for people to digest somehow.

Kleeyook
2012-09-22, 08:41
They reused the same ad from the earlier AW episode. They just cropped it and made it smaller.

Theres hope for a anime! WOOOPIE! Its just... they need to make it easy for people to digest somehow.

If anime audience can understand NGE, then MKnR shouldn't be too difficult to understand. We'll need a lot of monologue and explanation scenes for that though.

But I think it's impossible to become a TV-drama.

blackwhite67
2012-09-22, 09:11
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o626/Mattdamon2012/productplacement_zps6e29f62e.jpg

Syokool
2012-09-22, 14:47
Thanks!

In AW, how many months have passed and that cartel hadn't been changed?
Can I take that as a good signal?

----

Btw, what on heart did happen?

Actually Seitsuki has completed ch2 vol1 TL...

Seitsuki
2012-09-22, 15:10
And I'm.. kinda.. tired.

Wake me up when Miyuki and Tatsuya get married.

blackwhite67
2012-09-22, 15:31
@Syokool: This is indeed a good sign. I'm sure that there were a hundred other things to do instead of this scene, but they chose this one. I'm sure we can count on an anime adaptation in the near future. Maybe by this very studio.

Syokool
2012-09-22, 16:17
And I'm.. kinda.. tired.

Wake me up when Miyuki and Tatsuya get married.

Don't worry. When you wake up, u will have a nerve gear ready to you to come back to sleep by almost 20 years more :cool:

@Syokool: This is indeed a good sign. I'm sure that there were a hundred other things to do instead of this scene, but they chose this one. I'm sure we cancount on an anime adaptation in the near future. Maybe by this very studio.

U know, that'd be amazing. If other lame LNs are being animated, why not this one?

Hope to see Miyuki in THAT escene with Tatsuya (when she asks for a CAD adjustment).

blackwhite67
2012-09-22, 16:24
THAT scene is a must for any decent anime adaptation. BTW, The first volume has now been fully translated! Well, the parts that matter anyway. More to follow.

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-22, 17:52
Thanks a lot for that Seitsuki. And I have a feeling Miyuki would skip the marriage and just assault Tatsuya. We'll wake you up for whichever comes first :P

Mentar
2012-09-22, 18:04
And I'm.. kinda.. tired.

Wake me up when Miyuki and Tatsuya get married.

The Miyuki Guard salutes your efforts! *salutes*

Now on to get Syokool to stop procrastinating and finally put out Yuutousei 4... *powers up the cattle prod*

blackwhite67
2012-09-22, 20:20
OMG. On closer inspection, chapter 2 didn't have the scene in the manga where Tatsuya explained how Mayumi cancelled Honoka's magic.

Seitsuki
2012-09-23, 04:32
And I have a feeling Miyuki would skip the marriage and just assault Tatsuya.

I approve.

There are no doujins of this yet? Seriously? Disappoint.




...... not that I want to read them or anything shameless like that. I just want to be sure that the series is getting the attention it deserves. Of course.

Syokool
2012-09-23, 07:56
If there are, by any chance, some doujinshis of this LN, I bet the most used pairing would be Tatsuya x Mayumi, or Erika, or Honoka.

The main girl is left alone often, or just appears in NTR comics :(

jonald101
2012-09-23, 07:58
If there are, by any chance, some doujinshis of this LN, I bet the most used pairing would be Tatsuya x Mayumi, or Erika, or Honoka.

The main girl is left alone often, or just appears in NTR comics :(

Miyuki and morisaki pair will be the worst pairing ever...:frustrated:

surerman
2012-09-23, 09:59
Thanks a lot for that Seitsuki. And I have a feeling Miyuki would skip the marriage and just assault Tatsuya. We'll wake you up for whichever comes first :P
Thank you for Seitsu-bro

Miyuki assault Tatsuya?, I don't think she can do it without him allowing it. With his 'Instant Edios system restore', it's almost impossible to make him faint with magic. Add his Taijutsu in, and Miyuki gonna need a lot of help just to get him under her crotch, let alone strip off his underwear
XD

Miyuki and morisaki pair will be the worst pairing ever...:frustrated:

agreed.

whomever make that kind of doujin deserve to be annihilated :mad:

kfcpanda
2012-09-24, 04:58
The main girl is left alone often, or just appears in NTR comics :(

oh you did not just go there...

Syokool
2012-09-24, 12:23
It's real.

Hope to don't see that sort of things... at least about Miyuki :cool:

---

Nice panel, that Tatsuya's face is funny :heh:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rYxogNBQ5zs/UGCD8enAHMI/AAAAAAAABgo/dFbjaY-L-5A/s640/27.png

Updated ch3 (the proper version) and added links to DD you know where.

willx
2012-09-24, 12:43
OMG. On closer inspection, chapter 2 didn't have the scene in the manga where Tatsuya explained how Mayumi cancelled Honoka's magic.

Yeah, I noticed that too.. the manga added "more" explanation than the LN? Weird..

Seitsuki
2012-09-24, 15:10
It's more they changed the exposition of events, since the explanation was narrated instead in the LN. That kind of storytelling doesn't work very well in manga.

Awrya
2012-09-24, 16:27
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rYxogNBQ5zs/UGCD8enAHMI/AAAAAAAABgo/dFbjaY-L-5A/s640/27.png
Just saw the raw, in that scene they probably thought "dafuq?!":heh:
Morisaki reminded me of Beelzebub's MK5, try reading the mood:uhoh:

blackwhite67
2012-09-24, 17:40
Sorry Syokool, where did you post the updated chapter 3 and what was wrong with the old one?

Syokool
2012-09-24, 17:59
Just saw the raw, in that scene they probably thought "dafuq?!":heh:
Morisaki reminded me of Beelzebub's MK5, try reading the mood:uhoh:

I did use that exactly as that, to say "WTF Blogger, you were nice".

Sorry Syokool, where did you post the updated chapter 3 and what was wrong with the old one?

In the online reader's thread which all of you already know.

I said my friend to not use gray tones, so the pages were kinda purple in some parts :heh:
The last version actually is the proper one.

Belgaesh
2012-09-24, 20:35
Looks like chapter 04 of Yuutousei is out in english. All thanks to Syokool and Seitsuki and whoever I'm forgeting if there is one.

Edit: Wrong thread.

blackwhite67
2012-09-24, 21:03
That last part wasn't in Rettousei manga or the novel. I'm hating Morisaki by the minute.

Insane
2012-09-24, 21:07
That last part wasn't in Rettousei manga or the novel. I'm hating Morisaki by the minute.

Hmm? Isn't Yuutosei supposed to be spin-off?

blackwhite67
2012-09-24, 21:41
I was referring to the cafeteria episode when Morisaki told the Weeds to give them their seats.

Seitsuki
2012-09-24, 22:10
It was, just not expounded upon. Basically given a sentence worth of attention.

Lucarion
2012-09-25, 08:13
OH GOD....I love the intense eye-sex between the Shiba siblings..

That said, I just read both the new releases of Rettousei and Yuutosei. Morisaki's looking like a douche at Yuutosei...was that scene even in the novel?

Also, I just read somewhere that Saori Hayami was going to do the voice for Miyuki? If that's true then I am one REALLY happy boy right now^^

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-25, 09:29
Eye sex sounds like a subset of necrophilia. Have some more White Matter?

Johnny
2012-09-25, 09:54
OH GOD....I love the intense eye-sex between the Shiba siblings..

That said, I just read both the new releases of Rettousei and Yuutosei. Morisaki's looking like a douche at Yuutosei...was that scene even in the novel?

Briefly like mentioned above. I think it's somewhere in vol 1 chapter 2...

Okashira
2012-09-26, 04:03
Volume 2 has been scanlated over at Baka-tsuki. Eye-sex all over the place :heh:

FRS
2012-09-26, 04:04
Volume 2 has been scanlated over at Baka-tsuki. Eye-sex all over the place :heh:

I prefered the delicious pest control :heh:

Drkz
2012-09-26, 04:14
Oh sweet both vols got trans I can read now hurray!

Awrya
2012-09-26, 05:44
Not too long ago Ch.10 and Ch.2 were translated, now Ch.11&12?
Looks like the translator is on fire or maybe burned out?:heh:
Thank you very much!

"Miyuki will follow you always Onii sama, wherever you may go.
Even if you ran away at the speed of sound.
Even if you pierced the sky, and ascended to the stars themselves."
This really reminded me of TTGL:D

Edit: Vol3 Prologue has been translated as well.

Syokool
2012-09-26, 07:32
"Miyuki will follow you always Onii sama, wherever you may go.
Even if you ran away at the speed of sound.
Even if you pierced the sky, and ascended to the stars themselves."

That's exactly why I love Miyuki.

An imouto, ojousama, cute and smart girl :blush:

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C&P from MAL

Light novels rankings for September 10th - 16th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

*1, *72,054 151,744 Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai Vol.11
*2, *40,173 *92,459 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Volume 7, Part.2
*3, *22,597 160,222 Kuroko no Basket Vol.3
*4, *20,349 *20,349 Hapi Mari
*5, *18,299 427,007 Sword Art Online Vol.1
*6, *15,889 363,268 Sword Art Online Vol.2
*7, *13,918 288,296 Sword Art Online Vol.5
*8, *13,485 *13,485 Chihayafuru Vol.1
*9, *13,705 *27,669 Fuse Teppou Musume no Torimonochou
10, *13,574 329,149 Sword Art Online Vol.3


Manga rankings:

*1, 196,339 *,196,339 Chihayafuru Vol.18
*2, 127,369 *,127,369 Ahiru no Sora Vol.35
*3, 112,434 *,598,629 Ao no Exorcist Vol.9
*4, 104,305 *,105,736 Happy Marriage!? Vol.10
*5, *90,328 *,489,838 Bleach Vol.56
*6, *84,570 *,437,383 Kuroko no Basket Vol.19
*7, *73,681 *,*73,681 Kuragehime Vol.10
*8, *58,746 *,274,761 Katekyo Hitman Reborn! Vol.40
*9, *56,549 *,*56,702 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.1
10, *49,087 *,*49,087 Detective Conan Vol.77

blackwhite67
2012-09-26, 08:58
Terrorists were a nice to way to start the series with a bang, but the really juicy parts start now with the Nine-Schools Battle. Can't wait to see Tatsuya strut his stuff.

willx
2012-09-26, 09:12
Not too long ago Ch.10 and Ch.2 were translated, now Ch.11&12?
Looks like the translator is on fire or maybe burned out?:heh:
Thank you very much!

"Miyuki will follow you always Onii sama, wherever you may go.
Even if you ran away at the speed of sound.
Even if you pierced the sky, and ascended to the stars themselves."
This really reminded me of TTGL:D

Edit: Vol3 Prologue has been translated as well.

^ And this is especially touching considering what spurred Miyuki to say those words.. was because of what Mibu had said earlier.. Oh Miyuki.. :love:

Kleeyook
2012-09-26, 12:07
I think Miyuki overdid it with the poor terrorists. They just tried to hurt Tatsuya, but there couldn't possibly do so. Her entire clan on the other hand...

I hope that Miyuki will someday use harsh insulting word directly towards her family, they're worse than any antagonists in the entire story so far...

surerman
2012-09-26, 12:31
Not too long ago Ch.10 and Ch.2 were translated, now Ch.11&12?
Looks like the translator is on fire or maybe burned out?:heh:
Thank you very much!

I think Baka-Tsuki's Translators accidentally drank Endorphine filled drinks :D

Readers? all your thanks belong to them :cool:

Syokool
2012-09-26, 12:35
I think Baka-Tsuki's Translators accidentally drank Endorphine filled drinks :D

Readers? all your thanks belong to them :cool:

I think they are kinda masochists. U have to have a strong will to do this series.

Well, it's fun to do this and I'm sure they are in drugs or something :D

Richocet
2012-09-26, 12:44
I think they are kinda masochists. U have to have a strong will to do this series.

Well, it's fun to do this and I'm sure they are in drugs or something :D

I think they get high on the miyuki goodness which gets translated :heh:

Syokool
2012-09-26, 13:55
Well, Miyuki is the emotional part in the series, since Tatsuya is incapable of feeling stronger emotions.

And talking about Miyuki, something I didn't want...

C81新刊 魔法科高校の追加課題-拘束術式編-
http://i.imgur.com/uA7lyl.jpg (http://imgur.com/uA7ly)

blackwhite67
2012-09-26, 13:56
Can anyone tell me the reaction of Tatsuya and co. when Shizuku asked him to be her "exclusive" CAD engineer during the Nine-Schools Competition? How did Tatsuya decline?

EnigmaticAxiom
2012-09-26, 17:07
Syokool: DO NOT WANT! DO NOT WANT!!

Can anyone tell me the reaction of Tatsuya and co. when Shizuku asked him to be her "exclusive" CAD engineer during the Nine-Schools Competition? How did Tatsuya decline?

he pretty much wrote it off as a joke on her part, though he knew she was serious. He also said she should at least wait until he is licensed (though technically it is not a legal requirement) and she simply accepted that response. No one else was present at the time, and she did not mean "exclusive" as in an Engineer just for her, but the only Engineer that would work for her family.

blackwhite67
2012-09-26, 17:45
@Syokool: Please tell me Morisaki wasn't in there.

Syokool
2012-09-27, 10:28
Syokool: DO NOT WANT! DO NOT WANT!!

@Syokool: Please tell me Morisaki wasn't in there.

Who knows?

I'll trace that doujinshi (if it exists) :upset:

surerman
2012-09-27, 11:28
Who knows?

I'll trace that doujinshi (if it exists) :upset:

please trace the creator too, may be I can sent them a bombs or two :mad:
I think I still have dozen of Anthrax spore tube in my fridge back at home :D

blackwhite67
2012-09-27, 15:28
There are works destined to be made into a doujinshi and there are those that aren't. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei is NOT destined to be made into a doujinshi. Miyuki is too pure and anyone who defiles her MUST DIE. I'm sure Tatsuya would agree with me.

Seitsuki
2012-09-27, 15:42
Unless it's Tatsuya himself doing the defil-- *snap frozen*

Doesn't matter, got to se-- *disintegrated*

blackwhite67
2012-09-27, 15:53
DO NOT GO THERE. Besides its impossible for Tatsuya to exhibit any sexual desire.