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MisaoFan
2012-05-24, 15:26
Original creator : Konami
Original character design : Humikane Sanada
Director : Yasuhito Kikuchi
Series' Script Editor : Masahiro Yokotani
Character Designer : Takahiro Kishida
Chief Animation Director : Ryouma Ebata
Animation Production : 8-Bit
Plot summary : The slice-of-life battle story is set in a future that has neither World War III nor an alien invasion — just an ordinary future set after our current age. In this world, robots are part of everyday life, and they contribute in various aspects of society. "Shinki" are 15-centimeter-tall (about 6-inch-tall) cute partners made to assist humans. Equipped with intelligence and emotions, they devote themselves to serving their "Masters."

These Shinki can even be equipped with weapons and armor to fight each other. Such Shinki are named "Busou Shinki" (literally, "armed divine princesses"). In particular, the Senki Ann (Arnval), Aines (Altines), and Rane (Altrane) serve a high school freshman named Masato. Things change when a new Senki, the bellicose Staarf, joins them.

Note : The figure line inspired the first Busō Shinki Battle Masters PSP action-adventure game, which shipped in Japan in 2010. The figure line's second video game, Busou Shinki Battle Masters Mk. 2, debuted last year.

EagleBlue
2012-05-24, 16:22
The short series was interesting. I wonder if still will be like Angelic Layer.

Mura
2012-05-24, 17:13
I really liked Moon Angel so I hope this will be just as good.

LoweGear
2012-05-25, 02:27
BUSOU SHINKI'S GETTING A TV ANIME?!?!?! :eek::eek::eek:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/spec_operations/Macros/1287027083112.png

ANN Link to news btw (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-05-24/konami-busou-shinki-action-figures-get-tv-anime)

OceanBlue
2012-05-25, 02:30
I'm interested in seeing how 8-bit handles it. They (and Media Factory) found a big hit in IS. I wonder if this one will be similarly successful.

LoweGear
2012-05-25, 02:39
I'm interested in seeing how 8-bit handles it. They (and Media Factory) found a big hit in IS. I wonder if this one will be similarly successful.

Well, Busou Shinki already has a massive fanbase due to the action figures and games. The TV Anime can probably coast by just by brand-name recognition at all.

This anime would be a great gateway into the Busou Shinki franchise though. :)

Also, have some Character Design sketches for the four main Shinkis (http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2012/05/25/008/)

OceanBlue
2012-05-25, 02:48
Well, Busou Shinki already has a massive fanbase due to the action figures and games. The TV Anime can probably coast by just by brand-name recognition at all.

This anime would be a great gateway into the Busou Shinki franchise though. :)

Also, have some Character Design sketches for the four main Shinkis (http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2012/05/25/008/)
Sounds good to me. I know nothing about the series :heh:. Mecha musume series usually do well. That with its apparent popularity make for a pretty good combination.

As for me, they have really cute designs, and the idea of 6-inch androids is pretty appealing too. I'm also interested in seeing how they explore the setting, as it's apparently a slice of life. The different ways an author can approach the integration of sentient robots in society is always interesting. I'll definitely give it a try when it airs.

LoweGear
2012-05-25, 03:21
As for me, they have really cute designs, and the idea of 6-inch androids is pretty appealing too. I'm also interested in seeing how they explore the setting, as it's apparently a slice of life. The different ways an author can approach the integration of sentient robots in society is always interesting. I'll definitely give it a try when it airs.

I always imagined it as something like Angelic Layer, which would be a good comparison given that both have focus on miniature robot battle dolls :heh:

Here's a pic to get a good idea of what to expect from the designs:

http://i.imgur.com/11X68l.jpg (http://imgur.com/11X68)

One thing that I realized is that the VA for Busou Shinki is consistent across media. Which means we can expect the following VA casting for the TV anime:

Arnval: Asumi Kana
Altines: Mizuhashi Kaori
Altrane (Altlene): Nakajima Megumi
Strarf: Chihara Minori

All star cast :D

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-05-25, 05:48
is it ok to tap dance on the ceiling fan while it spins upon hearing this news? :heh:

pocket-sized battle bots go!!!

Flower
2012-05-26, 12:18
Hmm ... I also liked the short series. Will keep my eye out for this one....

Shimapan
2012-05-26, 20:40
Well, Busou Shinki already has a massive fanbase due to the action figures and games. The TV Anime can probably coast by just by brand-name recognition at all.

This anime would be a great gateway into the Busou Shinki franchise though. :)

Also, have some Character Design sketches for the four main Shinkis (http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2012/05/25/008/)

Those look pretty good :D
Looks like this is going to be interesting.

Kaihan
2012-05-29, 11:17
This is great news for me, I enjoyed the short series and was hoping for more. Been looking for an anime similar to Angelic Layer and I think this is the closest to that show.

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-05-29, 12:52
Clamp's Angelic Layer aside, i think it would be hilarious if somebody did a Toy Story crossover, with Buzz totally puzzled to death by their existance & compared to the NORMAL toys cast, they're pretty much confirmed to be official LIVING toys known to the public soul, which the NORMAL toys rant about...... :heh:

& oh, don't forget Prawles Sanshiro series & the Toy Soldiers movie.....

Bonta Kun
2012-05-29, 13:24
Clamp's Angelic Layer aside, i think it would be hilarious if somebody did a Toy Story crossover, with Buzz totally puzzled to death by their existance & compared to the NORMAL toys cast, they're pretty much confirmed to be official LIVING toys known to the public soul, which the NORMAL toys rant about...... :heh:

& oh, don't forget Prawles Sanshiro series & the Toy Soldiers movie.....

Theres never enough east meets west stories and Toy Story and co(it's Small Soldiers btw) meeting the east's mini mecha musumes, oh the win in that is too much!:D

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-05-29, 20:42
Theres never enough east meets west stories and Toy Story and co(it's Small Soldiers btw) meeting the east's mini mecha musumes, oh the win in that is too much!:D

oops!.... oh i mean Small Soldiers not toy soldiers, i must've confused it with the Little Tin Soldiers & its variations & a certain Eminem song.....

AdamEndless9
2012-08-12, 14:06
The renewed official site: http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/busou/index-j.html
PV 3 shown at Comiket dCPpKqbS8G4http://blog-imgs-51.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/lib563938.jpg
Better video of PV 3 & 2 -F4qsDsDdtQ

LoweGear
2012-08-12, 14:27
FINALLY, SOME NEWS :eek:

The Shinki's faces look odd at some points, but otherwise the animation does look to be similar to the OVA, which is fantastic, especially with the fight scenes. :)

Kaihan
2012-08-13, 00:00
FINALLY, SOME NEWS :eek:


2 months? :heh:
PV looked great, was much more than I expected.

wavehawk
2012-08-13, 05:45
Nakajima Megumi as Altrene? COUNT ME IN!

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-08-13, 11:27
why do one of the scenes in pv 2 & 3 look somewhat wrong? no i mean not the animation quality, its the uh...... unintentional you know what parts..... :uhoh:

Kismet-chan
2012-08-13, 15:21
Music at the very end of the second video sounds cool. And I'm also glad the fight scenes seem to be the same in quality as the OVA.

ZeroXSEED
2012-08-14, 20:18
BY 8 BIT?!

That's like asking for a crossover....

MY BODY IS READY! MY HEART IS NOT!

(Though I'm disappointed to the lack of testosterone, it works the same with the source material anyway)

GenjiChan
2012-08-14, 20:32
Angelic Layer+Infinite Stratos...

shinku no kage
2012-08-28, 11:35
...I'm only finding this out THREE MONTHS after announcement...? *facepalm* I fail as a Shinki fan.

Though in my defense it kinda dropped off my radar after they shut down the Battle Rondo service and the releases of figures kinda slowed down, in a manner of speaking. As much as I love the Strarf models, by the time KONAMI released Strarf Mk.2 Lavina: Full Arms, I was like, "Enough".

Strarf, Strarf bis, Strarf bis repaint, Strarf Mk. 2, Strarf Mk.2 Lavina, Strarf Mk.2 Full Arms, and then finally Strarf Mk.2 Lavina Full Arms...enough is enough, stop abusing my wallet KONAMI. There are other Shinkis that I must tend to...:heh:

Anyway, back on the anime, F*CK YES. I thought "Maybe..." when the MOON ANGEL OVA came out but for it to actually come true, awesome. Hopefully KONAMI will have the mind to print more copies of MOON ANGEL now...and hopefully not charge 10,000yen for it. Last time by the time I pulled the money together they were sold out...orz. Sure, I could settle for DLing in on the PSP and watch it in-game on Battle Masters Mk.2 but...the quality on PSP is meh-ish at best.

AdamEndless9
2012-09-07, 06:51
Hasn't been posted here yet, but broadcast starts October 4th: http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/busou/onair/

LoweGear
2012-09-27, 16:04
Latest PV:

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Also, the supposed ED for the series:

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Also, site containing general info about the TV series, as well as more new screenshots (http://ghostlysubstance.swgbex.com/Blog/?p=3144).

blackwhite67
2012-09-27, 20:39
Does anyone find the character design a little, how do I say this, tacky, especially that of the main character? Personally, I was hoping for more IS-style character design.

AdamEndless9
2012-09-29, 15:19
Sentai has licensed Busou Shinki! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-29/sentai-filmworks-adds-busou-shinki-anime-of-female-action-figures)

Midonin
2012-09-29, 15:25
Both TBS shows are licensed before airing... I always thought TBS shows were unlicensable (or at least, far less likely), but now, I have been proven quite wrong.

TnAdct1
2012-09-29, 17:40
Both TBS shows are licensed before airing... I always thought TBS shows were unlicensable (or at least, far less likely), but now, I have been proven quite wrong. The quick licenses for both TBS shows are probably due to:

1. Sentail already licensing the rest of Hidamari Sketch (making it easy for them to pick up season 4);

2. The people at Sentai having strong ties with Konami (the company behind Busou Shinki), with it dating back to the days of ADV.

Kismet-chan
2012-09-30, 03:35
http://i.imgur.com/dXsW5l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/dXsW5.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/rspk2l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/rspk2.jpg)

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-09-30, 19:35
I'm expecting it to go from comical to a darker over-tone, especially after hearing someone from Magical Madoka helped with the show. Lovin' that Azusa is singing the ED for the show because I can loosely associate it Amagami SS. It reassures me that the quality will be up there.

Can kind of support the speculation as well of people's Magical Madoka theories with Artemis from Battle Rondo, Tempesta & Athena from Moon Angel, and Mimic from Battlemasters. Just a few more days as well...getting highly impatient.

Wilfriback
2012-09-30, 20:57
I'm expecting it to go from comical to a darker over-tone, especially after hearing someone from Magical Madoka helped with the show. Lovin' that Azusa is singing the ED for the show because I can loosely associate it Amagami SS. It reassures me that the quality will be up there.

Can kind of support the speculation as well of people's Magical Madoka theories with Artemis from Battle Rondo, Tempesta & Athena from Moon Angel, and Mimic from Battlemasters. Just a few more days as well...getting highly impatient.
Wait, what?
That meas that "someone" could be Urobuchi?? I can't see this series going darker without him, right?

AdamEndless9
2012-09-30, 21:14
I'm expecting it to go from comical to a darker over-tone, especially after hearing someone from Magical Madoka helped with the show. Lovin' that Azusa is singing the ED for the show because I can loosely associate it Amagami SS. It reassures me that the quality will be up there.

Can kind of support the speculation as well of people's Magical Madoka theories with Artemis from Battle Rondo, Tempesta & Athena from Moon Angel, and Mimic from Battlemasters. Just a few more days as well...getting highly impatient.

Takahiro Kishida, who is a character designer for this show, has done character design for the Madoka Magica TV series and the movies. Ryouma Ebata, also a character designer as well as the chief animation director for this series, was the animation director for episode 1 of Madoka.

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-01, 14:03
*Nods to the two above posts*

Well, going to go take a guess that the first few episodes will be overly comical, gradually going into abusive Shinkis & Masters then into boss. As for the boss wonder what he, she, or it will be hmm....rogue Shinkis I bet.

--

- Wishful Thinking -

That Renge won't be afraid of the supernatural, instead be one with it stirring up chaos for the 4 Shinkis and the Master. Just pranking chaos heh. Ya, I'm wishing too much.

LoweGear
2012-10-01, 14:12
I should point out that character designers and chief animation directors have no majority input on an anime's story whatsoever. So the fact that they worked on Madoka means nothing about what the story may entail.

MisaoFan
2012-10-04, 12:38
The story takes place in a near-future world where the armored dolls known as "Shinki" are intended to serve their owners (called masters) as they please. A young Shinki named Arnval befriends two other members of the same race, Altines and Atlene, as they are fighting against other Shinki in a parallel world while working as housewives in a salaryman's apartment. The story reminds me of Angelic Layer and the production values are higher than I expected, as I was impressed by the lovely visuals and the delectable scenery porn. The fight scenes are fun to watch (not counting the fittingly excellent music), and I greatly enjoyed the slice of life parts. In short, it's a fun worthwhile anime to enjoy if you were looking for cute dolls doing cute things.

Kaioshin Sama
2012-10-04, 12:57
I'm expecting it to go from comical to a darker over-tone, especially after hearing someone from Magical Madoka helped with the show. Lovin' that Azusa is singing the ED for the show because I can loosely associate it Amagami SS. It reassures me that the quality will be up there.

Can kind of support the speculation as well of people's Magical Madoka theories with Artemis from Battle Rondo, Tempesta & Athena from Moon Angel, and Mimic from Battlemasters. Just a few more days as well...getting highly impatient.

Typically when it comes to these types of shows I find they don't ever really become more dark and complex and tend to keep their lighthearted tone throughout. Usually there's an attempt to inject drama, but it never feels like the overall atmosphere of the show becomes darker, depressing and/or more nihilistic like say what happened to ZZ Gundam back in the 80's.

If there's one thing I've learned in the past 3 or so years it's that just because a show has a mecha construct and/or weapon attached to the cute girl doesn't mean it's necessarily going to be any grittier or darker at any point than if it was just cute girls sitting around eating cake. It honestly depends on whether the emphasis is on portraying an overall concept, idea and tone with the characters in the show playing a part in events that are going to actually affect and change their personalities and outlooks over time (Madoka did indeed do this quiet well) or if it is simply showcasing moe personalities going through checklist events (getting to know their "handler", going to the beach, taking a bath, trying to cook etc.) and the expectation is that the viewer just gravitates towards whichever personality they prefer the most and that's that.

Anyway somehow I get the sense that this is definitely one that's going to fit into showcasing moe personalities going through checklist events.

Midonin
2012-10-04, 13:11
I didn't even know Rihito was in this show until about a week before it aired. I was expecting some kind of all-girls' series... and for the most part, it is. Though Rihito is labeled "protagonist", his role in the first episode is incidental at best. I think the show could've gotten by on the strength of the girls alone, though having someone normal sized to compare to is necessary, for scale. I also find it highly amusing that Kana Asumi and Kaori Mizuhashi have starring roles in both of the TBS series, though their characters are rather different in both of them.

It's a very soft sort of sci-fi, and though each episode looks to include a combat sequence or two, it's comparable to something like ARIA. There doesn't look to be much romance going on here, just friendships, different types of services all having their stake in the world, and action that can take place in a single room, because the single room feels so much larger in scale from this perspective. Maybe Dog Days isn't the only show that can make "healing action" anime a thing.

darkchibi07
2012-10-04, 13:57
Man, from the sounds of it, it reminds me of a cross between Angelic Layer and Bottle Fairy with the male lead act like a nanny for these miniature girls.

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-04, 14:00
Watched the first episode and enjoyed it. I approve of where this is going. Also looks like I'll be roughly correct with my theory in some or most placed :)

A nice introduction as to what Busou Shinkis are to Strarf fighting away with a Eukrante. Nice lengthy battle on that. As for the comedy, hilarious yet predictable. That hamster though....stay in your hamster cage heh. As for that other fight, awesome! Short yes, but was still awesomely entertaining.

Nice how I heard Battlemasters music used as a battle theme in certain areas, nice homage. I give it my approval.

I do want to go into detail but then it be too long to read. If I had to compare this to any Anime it would be Angelic Layer and not Infinite Stratos. Angelic Layer makes more sense.

LoweGear
2012-10-04, 14:20
I do want to go into detail but then it be too long to read. If I had to compare this to any Anime it would be Angelic Layer and not Infinite Stratos. Angelic Layer makes more sense.

The comparisons couldn't be helped though, given that the anime is made by the same studio with many of the same staff, and the visual style and animation doesn't help to dispel the illusion any. Well, those who know which came first would do the Angelic Layer angle better.

You know, the Busou Shinki TV anime makes a much better sequel to Angelic Layer than Chobits, asides from the visible doll joints :heh:

First episode, and the girls are already quite adorable. I want one that actually moves and has AI. But then reality is quite the cruel thing :upset:

Wilfriback
2012-10-04, 16:59
OHGhNfCXO94
OPening.

serenade_beta
2012-10-04, 21:47
I thought it was gonna be like Sky Girls... until I saw their size. Turned out to be a combination of Sky Girls and Angelic Layer (damn nostalgic!).

And surprisingly, it was kind of refreshing. It is only the first episode, so I don't know how much of a role the male protagonist(?) will play, but kind of like... slice of life for fighting dolls? Anyways, just kind of fun and light-hearted to watch.
However, from the beginning and the fact they fight(?), I'm not sure if it was just a first episode thing or what.

But anyways, it was refreshing to watch for some reason.
I like it. Will watch.

PS: The male protagonist(?) looks like a nameless mob character

Wilfriback
2012-10-04, 23:26
Looks more like a father in a kids series, you know, the kind whose face isn't shown often (Peanuts?).

Oh well, he reminds me of P-san from Idolm@ster to some degree.

As I said somewhere, I don't find it pretentious unlike other shows so I acept it as a light hearted series.

Wandering_Youth
2012-10-05, 01:25
This anime looks ok so far, but I'm into the fact that it reminds me of Angelic Layer one of the first shows I began watching when I started getting hooked on anime.

When the cats away the little people play...:heh:

Kaihan
2012-10-05, 02:26
Enjoyable first episode. It was quite fun watching those shinki mess around in their own scaled world.
But those AI sure are something. They unpack, deliver and act as an alarm in a way you can't say no.

And not to forget about the hamster that chews on anything. :heh:

Elestia
2012-10-05, 04:53
I enjoyed this episode. Nothing like a little mecha-musume, slice-of-life show that you can just grin and smile at.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-05, 06:23
Haven't had time to watch the episode yet, but Angelic Layer comparisons are a good sign.

GenjiChan
2012-10-05, 07:22
Just watched the sub... at the start I thought it was Infinite Stratos...

D-KLAC
2012-10-05, 08:38
well so yea seeing ep.1 we have living female figurine dolls yea help their master also go battle mode armor mode like from IS.

hmm looking so far hmm & that hamster oh my yea go watch this to see it all.

yet if mix compare to other anime check chobits + angelic layer + Infinite Stratos + living female figurine = Busou Shinki

sudolicious
2012-10-05, 10:50
Enjoyable first ep. OP/ED are quite nice, seiyu cast is pretty great and the story has potential for some charming moments. I'm not expecting much out of this, but I look forward to the next episode

Awrya
2012-10-05, 11:51
An entertaining first episode, enough for me to watch the next.

Dat hamster was VIP, it took my attention whenever it was on screen:heh:

The Shinki are ~6 inch tall, that's the same as a regular sub at subway?:heh:

vansonbee
2012-10-05, 12:10
I recall there was a alternative adaptation to this show? It was 10 x 5 min episodes or something. Is this new series the continuation or restart with a different telling?

Wilfriback
2012-10-05, 12:47
Its a sequel.

Tsundere Louise
2012-10-05, 13:07
The 1st series didn't make any sense, this doesn't do much either aside from promoting Shinki figures and stuff. Too bad there won't be any real-like Shinki's for another 50 years or so.

By the way, why there's always have to be a carefree character, a moe-ditzy character and a "why I'm with this bunch of idiots"-type one?

Midonin
2012-10-05, 13:10
By the way, why there's always have to be a carefree character, a moe-ditzy character and a "why I'm with this bunch of idiots"-type one?
You can find character archetypes in any series. It's how stories have evolved ever since mankind started telling them. They'll become more defined as the series goes on.

serenade_beta
2012-10-05, 13:13
I don't find it pretentious unlike other shows so I acept it as a light hearted series.

Ah~ I think that's the word I was looking for to describe anime recently. I was thinking about why I liked this anime yesterday and couldn't find the right word...

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-05, 14:09
The comparisons couldn't be helped though, given that the anime is made by the same studio with many of the same staff, and the visual style and animation doesn't help to dispel the illusion any. Well, those who know which came first would do the Angelic Layer angle better.

You know, the Busou Shinki TV anime makes a much better sequel to Angelic Layer than Chobits, asides from the visible doll joints :heh:

First episode, and the girls are already quite adorable. I want one that actually moves and has AI. But then reality is quite the cruel thing :upset:

Ya, you do have a point there. I guess I'm just used to people doing research then mentioning the history side of such instead of assuming things. I guess the time I was raised in where people once knew what they were talking about changed to assumptions and speculations heh. Just saying, not trying to imply anything rude.

Now that you mention it, it does make a nice sequel to Angelic Layer. You go from research to competition to full AI & emotions with Shinkis able to tend to your postal & grocery needs. I'd love a future like that ->


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfmlueX5f1rp5j9to1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfmlueX5f1rp5j9to2_500.jpg


Seeing Arnval and the gang spawn their armor on a whim/on command was a bit awkward from the way I know Busou Shinki. Used to equipping them, but this is nice I guess. Get to go into combat quicker without any side-screens to hurt the budget.

Can't wait for the second episode now.

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Edit:

Forgot to mention I loved Arnval's way of waking her master up. I would love to have an alarm-clock over the beeping zombie-causing alarm clocks.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbepcvkULQ1ru3v4eo1_500.gif

Master Assassin
2012-10-05, 14:15
Not too happy with the MC for this one. Design and character (plain-looking glasses high school dude... okay I don't need to list down more on what I see). I personally liked the Moon Angel ONA's MC better.

... Can't shake this feeling the MC here is just there for the sake of having a reason the gi-- I mean, the Shinkis to be there, since the premise describes that the Shinkis have masters (and fight).

Other than that, 8bit needs work on their drawn frames. CGI was excellent though.

I guess I'll be watching this for the silly hijinks factor alone :heh:

TnAdct1
2012-10-05, 15:47
I thought it was gonna be like Sky Girls... until I saw their size. Turned out to be a combination of Sky Girls and Angelic Layer (damn nostalgic!). No surprise here on the Sky Girls aspect given how:

1. Both are produced by Konami;

2. Humikane Shimada, one of the character designers for Sky Girls, is also the original character designer for the four main girls in this series (as well as four other characters in the figure line up so far).

Krytonis
2012-10-05, 16:47
This anime caught my interest. Not only it reminds of Infinite Stratos and Angelic Layer, it reminds me of how funny and awesome the anime can be at the same time. I will start watching this anime from now on and I shall see how it goes. :)

I'm loving the first episode. Good loyalty, good explanation of what is going on. Great beginning to introduce the characters!

Random Wanderer
2012-10-05, 19:32
Cute doll girls do cute things and are cute. Also, fighting.

thundrakkon
2012-10-05, 19:48
LOL So this is what happens when you combine Hand Maid May and Infinite Stratos together into a series. I can understand how some could attribute some resemblance to Angelic Layer, but the only major attribute with that series is the competition battles. This series definitely has more of the feel of Hand Maid May, and the battle suit designs are practically rip-offs of Infinite Stratos. I really do miss Hand Maid May, and wished that they made more before the company went bankrupt.

So this seems like a fun slice of life series, with some battles in between. I would have preferred that they did not have doll-like joints design, but oh well. This will be my "just watch and enjoy" series for the season.

FlareKnight
2012-10-05, 20:09
I thought it was a pretty cute opening episode. Certainly can feel a few series that they drew on here. Not much to say about the lead to this point since we haven't seen that much of him, seems like a good enough guy though.

A cute trio (with a new one showing up at the end there). Certainly got a feel for their personalities in a hurry and is kind of fun how the action gets mixed in. Should be good fun to watch this series.

LoweGear
2012-10-05, 20:11
and the battle suit designs are practically rip-offs of Infinite Stratos.

Correction: Busou Shinki predates Infinite Stratos by at least 3 years. The Shinkis came first :heh:

karuroso
2012-10-05, 20:30
yay =D another series that make me sad to be born in the wrong era... damn it! :sad:

Master_Yoma
2012-10-05, 21:03
Having little dolls unpack all your stuff and clean your toilet with your toothbrush :heh:


This seems like Infinite Stratos and Chobits had a anime kid

Random Wanderer
2012-10-05, 22:35
Unpacking all those boxes and cleaning the house would have been a full day's work for three normal-sized people. Those are some seriously industrious dolls, there.

supermegasonic
2012-10-06, 00:27
Unpacking all those boxes and cleaning the house would have been a full day's work for three normal-sized people. Those are some seriously industrious dolls, there.
yea i kinda want to have one. though this lucky bastard got 4, lol

zeniselv
2012-10-06, 00:30
This seems like Infinite Stratos and Chobits had a anime kid

well, there is angelic layer also from clamp.

Xacual
2012-10-06, 00:38
I completely didn't notice on my first watch that the Shinki's names were in the OP, Ann, Hina, Lene and Ines huh?

I'll echo the above, I definitely wish I had one.

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-10-06, 01:56
i don't know if the Microman manga & anime series based on one of TakaraTomy's action figure toylines fits with this type of genre, but those little guys are not even man-made in origin & even not from this world but a race of tiny alien robotic beings who crash landed on our planet, whom almost everybody mistook them for high tech advanced talking & moving toys made by some random local company..... hilarity ensues

except that they are more mecha musuko than musume, there are still females though, & in the latest current lines, some of their powersuit equipment looks suspiciously like something out of a certain animal ears & tails pantsu wearing magical pilot girl anime....... whut? XD

U<3Anime
2012-10-06, 03:46
Might be too early to tell, but still going to wish the tv series was more like the OVA.


The interaction between the kid and his shinki was pretty cute and heartwarming in the OVA (Plus, it seem much closer to Angelic Layer because it showed kids in competing in battles with their shinkis).

Tsundere Louise
2012-10-06, 04:33
yea i kinda want to have one. though this lucky bastard got 4, lol

I'd like to qoute John Cleese: "I want one."

That's all from me till ep 2.

Lukeman1884
2012-10-06, 05:40
Seems like a fun show. The focus seems to be mainly on the Shinkis, considering at this point we haven't even been told the MC's name. The combat is well done, but a bit boring at this stage. Might just be because I've watched too much mecha combat, but still, it's be nice having something to set it apart from the others fighting-wise.
Kinda disturbs me how.............................................."devoted" the Shinkis are to their master though. And what the hell was the MC doing to Arn under the covers at the beginning?

General observations:
1. Yeah, I know animes like this maintain realism like I maintain a healthy income (read: not at all), but seriously, how much do these 15cm tall dolls weigh? At that leverage, most people would need to use all their strength to flip a knife into a box with that penetration, and these robots can do it by sitting down? I'm pretty sure that exceeds the density of any material know to man. I'm just gonna assume they're running the whole "set in an alternate universe where Newtonian physics do not apply" thing.

2. Okay, what the hell is Lene made from? Seriously, dat BOUNCE.

3. Did anyone else find it funny how, during the search for the letter, Arn was like: "You two go left, I'll go right", and they still all ended up in the same place?

4. So apparently these 15cm tall robots eat cake and drink tea. Where does it go? Kinda makes you wonder just how anatomically correct they are.

Mizuno
2012-10-06, 07:15
I see great material for doujin here. Hm.

kaizerknight01
2012-10-06, 09:12
i don't know if the Microman manga & anime series based on one of TakaraTomy's action figure toylines fits with this type of genre, but those little guys are not even man-made in origin & even not from this world but a race of tiny alien robotic beings who crash landed on our planet, whom almost everybody mistook them for high tech advanced talking & moving toys made by some random local company..... hilarity ensues

except that they are more mecha musuko than musume, there are still females though, & in the latest current lines, some of their powersuit equipment looks suspiciously like something out of a certain animal ears & tails pantsu wearing magical pilot girl anime....... whut? XD

Hmmm remembers plamoo stop motion

BGesCQ5umw4&feature

Rayrah
2012-10-06, 09:29
The pilot episode was good; the battle segments were awesome (especially the one with the Strarf at the beginning), and the slice-of-life moments weren't too bad, either. I really like the atmosphere of this show.

The OP and ED are only 'alright', but I'm sure they'll grow on me with each episode.

Arn is definitely my favourite Shinki out of the four. I love how the tips of hair are red as opposed to being blonde/yellow like the rest of her hair.

Its a sequel.
It is? I thought there was no relation between the ONA and this?

Oh, and here's a freebie of a scene that caught my eye:

http://i.imgur.com/lJPwy.gif

ogon_bat
2012-10-06, 13:24
Yeah, I know animes like this maintain realism like I maintain a healthy income (read: not at all), but seriously,
Reality check in progress...


1. how much do these 15cm tall dolls weigh? At that leverage, most people would need to use all their strength to flip a knife into a box with that penetration, and these robots can do it by sitting down? I'm pretty sure that exceeds the density of any material know to man. I'm just gonna assume they're running the whole "set in an alternate universe where Newtonian physics do not apply" thing.
No doubt these dolls are heavy (as in metal heavy) and the knife might be made from a light carbon compund (diamond like?) which could easily carve cardboard. I mean, am I the only one that saw an infomercial about a cooking knife that could cut lead pipes?

2. Okay, what the hell is Lene made from? Seriously, dat BOUNCE.
Silicone? :D

3. Did anyone else find it funny how, during the search for the letter, Arn was like: "You two go left, I'll go right", and they still all ended up in the same place?
No doubt they are equipped with GPS (and have shared their tracking keys) and cellular (g3 or g4?) communication so no doubt they can communicate thoughts and even audio and video data.

4. So apparently these 15cm tall robots eat cake and drink tea. Where does it go? Kinda makes you wonder just how anatomically correct they are.
Is is a well known fact that living dolls consume copious amounts of tea and cake (see Rozen Maiden). I think they internally burn cake and other food they consume and produce CO2 (which they require to talk IMO, otherwise their voices would not be loud enough for a human to hear) and the h20 must be eliminated as water vapor (yeah, their farts are pure and clean gaseous h20).

00Coyote
2012-10-06, 13:33
Cute doll girls do cute things and are cute. Also, fighting.And a hamster.

The philosophical implications of this show are profound.

What is love? Why do we struggle and fight? Why do cute girls do cute things?

Cute girls do cute things because that is what they do, it is their purpose.
They fight because they need a break on occasion from doing cute things.
Love is a 15 cm tall cute mechanical girl that cleans your room.

This show has answered all the questions that have haunted humanity for ages.
There is nothing left to question. We await the singularity.

ars89
2012-10-06, 13:45
well the first ep was cute in so many ways. Liked the scenery as well. Lol Lene brought out a maid armor.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-06, 13:53
4. So apparently these 15cm tall robots eat cake and drink tea. Where does it go? Kinda makes you wonder just how anatomically correct they are.

Fuel, perhaps? Pure matter - energy conversion? But the ability to eat and drink is absolutely essential to maintain moeness. :D

No doubt these dolls are heavy (as in metal heavy)

And yet it seems they can be picked up effortlessly in one hand. I rather doubt Aines weighs much (if any) more than that knife itself does. The fact that it cut into the cardboard isn't surprising to me (a properly sharp kitchen knife can easily do that), it's the fact that she can launch it that far. However, that also was essential in order to give them a reason to open the box and trigger the rest of the plot, so it is justified as happening "because the writer said so."

And a hamster.

Oh, right. Who lets a hamster roam around loose in their house, anyway? Those things are a menace if you let them get free. They chew on everything, they get everywhere, and are likely to kill themselves chewing on electrical cables (in the process shorting out something you'd probably prefer to have still working).

blitz1/2
2012-10-06, 14:00
I guess Busou Shinki have the strength of ants, seeing as I think they can carry things several times their weight.

ogon_bat
2012-10-06, 14:08
And yet it seems they can be picked up effortlessly in one hand.

Lets not forget that they are small and thin, even if made of depleted uranium an average human would be able to lift one of them with one hand (specially if already used to the feeling of said weight).

Silvance
2012-10-06, 14:34
Hmmm... The first episode was not bad. It was reasonable enjoyable thanks to the battle scenes. The shifting camera angles and elaborate movements during the entire ordeal was pleasing to the eyes. If only TE exhibited similar competency in that regard... Well, the three figures were really fun to watch altogether. Though, I can't really praise the blandness and uninspired design for their owner. It's almost like the one who drew him didn't put much thought or effort at all. lol. Nonetheless, I'm sold and hoping the next episode comes soon.

00Coyote
2012-10-06, 14:49
And a hamster.
Oh, right. Who lets a hamster roam around loose in their house, anyway? Those things are a menace if you let them get free. They chew on everything, they get everywhere, and are likely to kill themselves chewing on electrical cables (in the process shorting out something you'd probably prefer to have still working).
Like this?
http://i.imgur.com/n4sf2.gif


http://i.imgur.com/6Ieee.gif
http://i.imgur.com/RspQy.gif
http://i.imgur.com/W8oQF.gif
http://i.imgur.com/qDvFS.gif

http://i.imgur.com/zONR2.gif

Midonin
2012-10-06, 14:57
So that's what Hamzou's been up to.

Haak
2012-10-06, 14:58
I came into this show without any expectations...

...

and now I will be leaving this show without any expectations...

Random Wanderer
2012-10-06, 16:06
Lets not forget that they are small and thin, even if made of depleted uranium an average human would be able to lift one of them with one hand (specially if already used to the feeling of said weight).

If their smallness and thinness is enough to offset the weight of their component materials, then... well, they still don't weigh much, which was my basic point. I suspect, however, their weight is going to be portrayed quite inconsistently. In the op, there's a shot of Lene standing on the leaf of a sunflower, without it bending even slightly, which seems pretty unlikely to me even if they were just made of light plastic.

Like this?
http://i.imgur.com/n4sf2.gif

For example. Where did that come from? The hamster looks much like the one from this episode, but I don't remember seeing that scene...

totoum
2012-10-06, 16:16
I came into this show expecting nothing

I found a hamster!So I'll be sticking around as long as the hamster is around. (yeah,I know,that might sound weird)

For example. Where did that come from? The hamster looks much like the one from this episode, but I don't remember seeing that scene...

It's in the backround towards the beginning I think....yeah at about 7:04

Random Wanderer
2012-10-06, 16:38
It's in the backround towards the beginning I think....yeah at about 7:04

Ah. I didn't even notice him in that scene.

ogon_bat
2012-10-06, 16:47
I guess Busou Shinki have the strength of ants, seeing as I think they can carry things several times their weight.

There you have it, she did the clean and jerk in no time, with no effort and is using only one foot to support the overhead weight :)

http://i.imgur.com/YmKVvs.png (http://i.imgur.com/YmKVv.png)

TnAdct1
2012-10-06, 17:46
except that they are more mecha musuko than musume, there are still females though, & in the latest current lines, some of their powersuit equipment looks suspiciously like something out of a certain animal ears & tails pantsu wearing magical pilot girl anime....... whut? XD Just like my Sky Girls comment, that is no surprise, given how Humikane Shimada, who was original creator of Strike Witches, was the original character designer for the four main females in this series, with Arnval and Strarf being the first two figures in the toy line altogether.

Hmmm remembers plamoo stop motion

BGesCQ5umw4&feature Interesting enough, the female character in that video is another figure in the Busou Shinki line.

Dark Wing
2012-10-06, 17:52
you know I think this is one of the rare cases where a series could've benefited had it been of the shounen genre. I mean come on you have miniature battle ready robots it just screams shounen battle tournament.

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-06, 17:59
It is? I thought there was no relation between the ONA and this?


Actuallly it isn't; No relation to Arnval or Master, only the Busou Shinki universe. It is a separate story with different characters. Moon Angel had Tsubasa and Arnval MK II while this one has Rihito (shown almost the same in kid form) with Arnval and other gals. Be nice if it made a reference to Moon Angel though.

Rayrah
2012-10-06, 18:18
Actuallly it isn't; No relation to Arnval or Master, only the Busou Shinki universe. It is a separate story with different characters. Moon Angel had Tsubasa and Arnval MK II while this one has Rihito (shown almost the same in kid form) with Arnval and other gals. Be nice if it made a reference to Moon Angel though.
Ah, I thought as much. Thanks for the clarification.

Wild Goose
2012-10-06, 21:44
So, I watched the series. I have some passing familiarity due to Moon Angel, and playing the PSP games (Arnval sniping. Accept no substitutes).

Random thoughts: Cute girl dolls doing cute things. I want ;___;

Also Arn is ridiculously cute and I don't like blondes and yet I heart her.

And I just can't stop laughing at their antics while Ines is being all straight shinki to the other girls. Definitely following this show.

Tenchi Ryu
2012-10-06, 21:58
This is gonna sell like hot cakes...book it.

supermegasonic
2012-10-07, 00:04
Seems like a fun show. The focus seems to be mainly on the Shinkis, considering at this point we haven't even been told the MC's name. The combat is well done, but a bit boring at this stage. Might just be because I've watched too much mecha combat, but still, it's be nice having something to set it apart from the others fighting-wise.
Kinda disturbs me how.............................................."devoted" the Shinkis are to their master though. And what the hell was the MC doing to Arn under the covers at the beginning?

General observations:
1. Yeah, I know animes like this maintain realism like I maintain a healthy income (read: not at all), but seriously, how much do these 15cm tall dolls weigh? At that leverage, most people would need to use all their strength to flip a knife into a box with that penetration, and these robots can do it by sitting down? I'm pretty sure that exceeds the density of any material know to man. I'm just gonna assume they're running the whole "set in an alternate universe where Newtonian physics do not apply" thing.

2. Okay, what the hell is Lene made from? Seriously, dat BOUNCE.

3. Did anyone else find it funny how, during the search for the letter, Arn was like: "You two go left, I'll go right", and they still all ended up in the same place?

4. So apparently these 15cm tall robots eat cake and drink tea. Where does it go? Kinda makes you wonder just how anatomically correct they are.
i like your observations, keep it up, i'll be reading them if you do it again
also i'd like to mention one of the rules of anime
"everytime you talk about physics in an anime, god kills a cat girl
please think of the catgirls"
Like this?

http://i.imgur.com/zONR2.gif
cant stop seeing this one

Snuffle
2012-10-07, 17:06
Hand Maid May + Sky Girls :)
Not really a fan of Sky Girls but for being like Hand Maid May alone is enough to keep me interested. Plus all these dolls like girls (especially Ann) are just so cute! :p

ttdestroy
2012-10-09, 05:05
Hand Maid May + Sky Girls :)
Not really a fan of Sky Girls but for being like Hand Maid May alone is enough to keep me interested. Plus all these dolls like girls (especially Ann) are just so cute! :p

Ahh yeah I loved Hand Maid May back in the day. But I better be quiet, I'm aging myself in front of the youngsters...

I like the series so far I just hope we don't have another battle of the week show, I'd like something a lil different that.

Tsundere Louise
2012-10-09, 05:12
Hand Maid May + Sky Girls :)
Not really a fan of Sky Girls but for being like Hand Maid May alone is enough to keep me interested. Plus all these dolls like girls (especially Ann) are just so cute! :pLet's just hope that we don't get any baka rival like Nanbara from Hand Maid May...

Insane
2012-10-09, 06:49
Just watching first episode and my first impression is............boring!
Nothing interesting so far beside a bunch of cute dolls with human intelligence fighting each other. Feels like watching Infinite Stratos albeit without a single male wearing mechanic suit (poor you, Ichika).

KaoruAoiShiho
2012-10-09, 09:59
anime of the year.

If only it didn't have the fighting scenes it would've been perfect...

Wild Goose
2012-10-09, 12:32
Impression this show suggests to me is that Hina wants it to be a battle of the week show, while Ann, Ines and Lene are going to drag her into the slice of life genre, and teach her to open her tsundere heart and accept a two-way outpouring of love and affection from the trio and Mastah.

Malkuth
2012-10-09, 12:44
anime of the year.

If only it didn't have the fighting scenes it would've been perfect...

Sure it would have been a lot better if they practiced "light music" after eating cake and drinking tea :rolleyes:

Anyway, looked good, plus facing everything up from 15 cm was interesting and funny.

Midonin
2012-10-11, 13:50
Forget Aines, Hina's the one who thinks this should be a fighting show. She does care about the rest of the group on some level, but not until their lives are in danger. Once again, the show manages to combine the battle elements with the daily life elements pretty well, turning a routine food preparation (though made somewhat harder by the miniscule scale) into a war zone. It looks like we're going to get a recurring group of antagonist Shinkis, including the two that showed up this week.

I liked the house-shifting at the start of the episode. So many different styles, from traditional Japanese to Victorian elegance to a cabin in the middle of the woods. Even a space station! It's all just computer graphics and illusions, but it looked really cool. There was even a brief hot spring in there for a bit of light service. Though I wasn't really aware of the doll joints in the previous week's episode, they really stood out this week. The Shinki still look human enough that such things don't really take away from their cuteness, but it's definitely a "cannot unsee" kind of deal.

blitz1/2
2012-10-11, 15:51
Okay. So far, the personalities revealed are:

Arnval = Osana Najimi
Altines = imouto
Altlene = Maid?
Hina = Serious, soldier like.

YES, next ep will have Yda and Ach! xD

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-11, 16:59
Loved this episode as well, if a bit excessive on the fan-service side. Quite nice seeing Strarf make herself at home, if a bit on the shy side. Her tsundereness is cute here.

An Octopus raiding the kitchen? I want to know if it was part of the shopping list or if the mischievous duo - Howling & Mao Chao - brought in that bugger. FOOD FIGHT! A bit on the cliched side, but did enjoy how Starf turned the weaponized food into actual prepared food for the other three to turn into a meal. Nice control with the sword.

I need my hands on that Visualizer (gadget the Shinkis use for homes and battle stages) to pose my Shinkis in photoshoots. Give me a real Shinki as well while you're at it :P.

As previews go, we're getting episode 1 & 2 mixed in with three - three layers of goodies in episode 3! We're getting Eukrante back, Howling & Mao Chao back, and getting introduced to the Speed Taikes. Can't wait for next Thursday now.

serenade_beta
2012-10-11, 22:09
This scene (couldn't find gif):
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/8940/shinki2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/shinki2.jpg/)

And:
http://imageshack.us/a/img338/5590/shinki1.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/shinki1.gif/)

(^ω^)b

Guido
2012-10-12, 00:43
About two weeks late starting up this fall season.

Ok. So, this is the TV series based on one of KONAMI's popular franchises that went to inspire the making of the first anime series that got released at the end of the previous year.

I was expectant of this show given my positive reaction I had watching the first anime incarnation (OVA).

To start the feeling has been subverted from the OVA, since this brand-new TV anime focuses more on the light-hearted atmosphere above the dramatic turns when something serious or somber approaches.

For example, at the end of the first episode when Rihito opens the box revealing Strarf inside.


I do agree that watching the Shinkis undertaking domestic chores everday with funny mishaps greatly reminded me of Hand Maid May, and while I cannot say about Sky Girls (given to never have watched that show at all) I do certainly get Infinite Stratos vibes whenever the Shinki battle each other with their armors; just to add that the battle armors design from my POV looks very Gundam-esque.

Now, one thing that greatly reminded the connection with the OVA was Arn's character.

At first, I thought she was the same character from the OVA, as well as her master who has grown up.

But, the flashbacks towards the end of episode one revealed that they're not the same characters from the OVA.

Both Kaguya and Arn come from the same production design model, Arnval, or that's how it looks like to me, but I can be wrong.

My question is that the Strarf Shinki, briefly introduced into Rihito's household and the lives of his Shinki, is she the same character from the OVA? or is she a different Strarf?

Wilfriback
2012-10-12, 01:18
Damn, good thing I have high resistance against this or else...

Elestia
2012-10-12, 07:07
Enjoying the anime so far, although the budget going for the animation quality was way below average, even for me. The doll's master is especially horrendous to look at when he shows his ugly mug.

rafael1932
2012-10-12, 07:34
I am going to watch again:love:

and, yes, the guy could be better drawn

D-KLAC
2012-10-12, 07:36
well now so yea now there 4 of them give straft more into battle & fight while their master is nice guy.

so other 3 idea make food for master give dangers of having shinki doing cooking but they do it for master.

til two cat-shinki doing some trouble to ruin even bring in the octo-attack til straft slay the octo-beast.

yet all food ready prepare for 4 shinki's master all good.

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-12, 11:48
til two cat-shinki doing some trouble to ruin even bring in the octo-attack til straft slay the octo-beast.


Howling Type Dog and MaoChao type Cat. You can tell them apart when Howling is on the left and MaoChao is on the right in most scenes. Just helping you out here :D

KaoruAoiShiho
2012-10-12, 16:43
Oh wow this show is brilliant. Shows basically everything I want to see. Master that's not into battles, YES!

Random Wanderer
2012-10-12, 17:54
Hmm... the translation whose source I shall not name added a fair number of unnecessary puns into what Howling and MaoChao were saying. I may not be fluent in Japanese, but I recognized several rather ordinary phrases they used were replaced with something rather different and much more punny.

Well, whatever.

This episode seemed much more interested in aiming for fanservice shots, which felt rather jarring given the blatant doll-joints which are part of a shinki's iconic design. I wonder if they did that on purpose.

Master needs to better explain to Hina why he doesn't put his shinkis into battles. I don't think she quite understands where he's coming from. I do find it a bit odd that she had a warrior personality pre-installed. It sounded like Aines' personality was specifically designed for her position in the "family." I would have expected that to be part of the basic setup that Master performed when he gave Hina her name.

I don't know much about Busou Shinki, but they seem to be portraying the Strarf model as particularly capable fighters, what with the champion from last time being a Strarf, and Hina seeming to be a much better fighter than the other three.

Have to say to Master's father, buying your son a new toy is one thing, but pushing a new intelligent being into their "family" is something else entirely. That's the sort of thing you should ask about before doing.

A bit odd that the shinkis get sleepy, but I imagine their non-combat behavior was likely designed to mimic human behavior, so it makes sense.

Aines made me laugh when she started trying to clean each grain of rice by hand.

So where exactly did Howling and MaoChao come from? One assumes a shinki needs fairly regular recharging, so I doubt they're feral or anything like that. Presumably their master lives nearby.

Next time looks like there will be a good amount of combat.

Master_Yoma
2012-10-12, 21:21
Wow there cooking skills are kind of good being so small but Hina just awesome with that sword

ogon_bat
2012-10-12, 21:38
A bit odd that the shinkis get sleepy, but I imagine their non-combat behavior was likely designed to mimic human behavior, so it makes sense.

Think about it for a second, every organic being with a brain needs to sleep. Even fish and birds (which can pull continous 24/7 migrations) sleep while moving, they shut half of their brain, then the other half, reboot and presto. So shinki have inorganic brains, but brains need to enter stand by mode to see what memories are important (copy from RAM to hard disk) and what memories are irrelevant (delete). Otherwise their memory would fill up from the ton of images they go through as they live a day. Besides, sleep is required to really learn, new knowledge substitutes old knowledge (using a sword is NOT a proper form of salute or welcome).

Lukeman1884
2012-10-13, 05:26
1. Well, it seems like blatant fanservice time has truly come around. Tentacles? Seriously? And how was the octopus even alive? It's not possible for an octopus to spend that much time out of the water. Was it those two little robots doing it? That's animation of the freaking dead, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere out there, there's a mob armed with pitchforks and torches looking for them.

2. I'm wondering if there's ever been any Shinki-related deaths before. Think about it, Hina sliced through that octopus pretty easily, I'm pretty sure she could do the same to my carotid artery. And there's all the collateral damage our poor MC's apartment is suffering. Why does no-one seem to care that these robots are walking around armed with lethal weaponry?

3. Y U NO HAZ AWESOME MECH FIGHTING? Seriously, if I had the ability to suddenly spawn armor and a jet booster, I'd be rocking that thing every day. Why didn't any of the Shinkis go mecha-mode during the fighting? You'd think being groped by an octopus would kinda mark the point in the fight where you might want to pull out the big guns.

4. So if I'm understanding this right, a Shinki went through a blender and survived? And the first scene last episode showed the pink-haired Shinki getting impaled by the Strarf model, and she didn't seem worse for the wear. Holy crap, they're pretty much indestructible, aren't they?

5. So we've got indestructible robots armed with lethal weapons flying around. Why has this not been exploited for military purposes? Why is the world not a war-ravaged wasteland haunted by the memories of 6-inch tall super soldiers yet?

6. 10:30. Why is she talking to Lene's crotch?

KaoruAoiShiho
2012-10-13, 07:22
No mecha because the armor doesn't just suddenly spawn out of nowhere, she needs to grab it from wherever it is.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-13, 07:44
No mecha because the armor doesn't just suddenly spawn out of nowhere, she needs to grab it from wherever it is.

You need to watch the first episode again.

1. Well, it seems like blatant fanservice time has truly come around. Tentacles? Seriously? And how was the octopus even alive? It's not possible for an octopus to spend that much time out of the water. Was it those two little robots doing it? That's animation of the freaking dead, and I'm pretty sure that somewhere out there, there's a mob armed with pitchforks and torches looking for them.

I think she was using her mini-tank things to somehow puppeteer it.

4. So if I'm understanding this right, a Shinki went through a blender and survived? And the first scene last episode showed the pink-haired Shinki getting impaled by the Strarf model, and she didn't seem worse for the wear. Holy crap, they're pretty much indestructible, aren't they?

Not exactly. As I understand it, they're just very modular, so damaged parts can be easily swapped out and replaced.

Wild Goose
2012-10-13, 08:30
At first, I thought she was the same character from the OVA, as well as her master who has grown up.

But, the flashbacks towards the end of episode one revealed that they're not the same characters from the OVA.

Both Kaguya and Arn come from the same production design model, Arnval, or that's how it looks like to me, but I can be wrong.

My question is that the Strarf Shinki, briefly introduced into Rihito's household and the lives of his Shinki, is she the same character from the OVA? or is she a different Strarf?


It's kinda complicated. The original Arnval and Straf lines had a newer version released, the Arnval Mk.2 and Straf Mk.2, which are 01 and 02 respectively from the Moon Angel ONA (which ties into the plot of the Battle Masters Mk.2 game). ONA Arnval Mk.2 - Kaguya - is explicitly stated to be a custom model, and at the end of the ONA she's staying with the boy in what is more or less present day of the setting.

ONA Straf Mk.2 ended up with that former researcher, helping him in his model/hobby/Shinki shop. She's most likely not Hina, particularly as Hina is stated to be a blank slate and recently awakened.

Ann is most likely a first-gen Arnval, as it's been stated that she's been with Mastah since he was a boy, and the Mk.2s like Kaguya are new releases.

Generally, IIRC the difference between Arnval Mk.1 and Mk.2 is that the first gens are smaller than the Mk.2s by a certain margin - if they stand side by side, it's quite obvious that the Mk.2 is larger. It's like the difference between the legacy F/A-18A/B/C/D Hornet and the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, with the latter being larger than the former.

Think about it for a second, every organic being with a brain needs to sleep. Even fish and birds (which can pull continous 24/7 migrations) sleep while moving, they shut half of their brain, then the other half, reboot and presto. So shinki have inorganic brains, but brains need to enter stand by mode to see what memories are important (copy from RAM to hard disk) and what memories are irrelevant (delete). Otherwise their memory would fill up from the ton of images they go through as they live a day. Besides, sleep is required to really learn, new knowledge substitutes old knowledge (using a sword is NOT a proper form of salute or welcome).

Not to mention the fact that if you leave a computer running 24/7, without any shutdown or sleep time, it'll start lagging away like hell.



4. So if I'm understanding this right, a Shinki went through a blender and survived? And the first scene last episode showed the pink-haired Shinki getting impaled by the Strarf model, and she didn't seem worse for the wear. Holy crap, they're pretty much indestructible, aren't they?

That was a year ago, y'know. That's plenty of time to be sidelined for major repairs requiring significant work that results in a fully restored Shinki.

5. So we've got indestructible robots armed with lethal weapons flying around. Why has this not been exploited for military purposes? Why is the world not a war-ravaged wasteland haunted by the memories of 6-inch tall super soldiers yet?


This is explored somewhat in that two media. The underlying story in those two stories is that the main character's Shinki (Kaguya, a custom Arnval Mk.2 in Moon Angel, and whatever the player's favorite Shinji in Battle Masters Mk.2 is, which usually is an Arnval anyway), escaped from an R&D lab that intended to use Shinki to gather combat data for an unmanned combat machine. In Moon Angel, this was achieved by combat tests conducted by an Arnval Mk.2 and a Straf Mk.2 codenamed 01 and 02 respectively. 01 decided she was tired of war and wanted out, got chased by 02, and was eventually shot down and recovered by a boy who renamed her as Kaguya. Note also that in that series there was no hyperspace arsenal summons.

At the climax of the series, it's revealed that the final stage of combat tests would have involved plugging 01 and 02 into a human-sized combat Shinki with beam weapons.

As for Battle Masters, the bits that I've played suggest that Shinkis can run and jump pretty far, but all the weapon equips aren't functional IRL, and only work in the VR battlegrounds, which are all computer controlled/generated. Moon Angel... has the weapons actually working for reals.

As for why the military hasn't used Shinki, probably it's because while the Shinki could be used for recon and suchlike, conventional measures are still far more practical to be used.

The other, more thematic reason, is because as the opening narration states, Shinki are friends and partners to humans. Shinkis aren't meant for war, they're meant for love and friendship.

Loved this episode as well, if a bit excessive on the fan-service side. Quite nice seeing Strarf make herself at home, if a bit on the shy side. Her tsundereness is cute here.

An Octopus raiding the kitchen? I want to know if it was part of the shopping list or if the mischievous duo - Howling & Mao Chao - brought in that bugger. FOOD FIGHT! A bit on the cliched side, but did enjoy how Starf turned the weaponized food into actual prepared food for the other three to turn into a meal. Nice control with the sword.

I need my hands on that Visualizer (gadget the Shinkis use for homes and battle stages) to pose my Shinkis in photoshoots. Give me a real Shinki as well while you're at it :P.

As previews go, we're getting episode 1 & 2 mixed in with three - three layers of goodies in episode 3! We're getting Eukrante back, Howling & Mao Chao back, and getting introduced to the Speed Taikes. Can't wait for next Thursday now.

Seeing your blog, I'm not surprised at all you'd want that visualiser. Me, I'd settle for any Shinki.

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-10-13, 09:24
maybe the Shiki's are biomorphic-type robots? hence they could digest organic foodstuffs, in order to convert them into fuel energy along with sleeping? much like those advanced versions of the decendants of the Terminators in Sarah Conor Chronicles tv series who are nearly impossible to distinguish from an actual real natural living organic being? those things are like artificial clone lifeforms than robots or something for crying out loud!, seriously........

Insane
2012-10-13, 09:33
maybe the Shiki's are biomorphic-type robots? hence they could digest organic foodstuffs, in order to convert them into fuel energy along with sleeping?

That means they can poop as well?

Random Wanderer
2012-10-13, 11:01
That means they can poop as well?

I'm going to assume they can run on total matter-energy conversion, and are able to make use of all the molecules in whatever substance they eat or drink. As such, there would be no waste products left over from what they consume.

I'm also rather hoping that they aren't anatomically correct enough to be able to perform those actions. Thinking anything other than that gets kind of disturbing quickly.

Snuffle
2012-10-13, 11:22
That means they can poop as well?

that gets kind of disturbing quickly.

Did you people really have to think in that direction? There have been a quite a few shows where machines eat organic food for "fuel." Minatsu from Da Capo II comes to mind. The food consumed most likely goes through some kinda conversion and then evaporates when used.

I thought it was pretty cool when Ann tasted that green liquid (green tea? but why would it have salt?), It showed that she was analyzing the taste with a graph. I just thought that was really interesting, you don't see that very often.

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-13, 11:29
2. I'm wondering if there's ever been any Shinki-related deaths before. Think about it, Hina sliced through that octopus pretty easily, I'm pretty sure she could do the same to my carotid artery. And there's all the collateral damage our poor MC's apartment is suffering. Why does no-one seem to care that these robots are walking around armed with lethal weaponry?

3. Y U NO HAZ AWESOME MECH FIGHTING? Seriously, if I had the ability to suddenly spawn armor and a jet booster, I'd be rocking that thing every day. Why didn't any of the Shinkis go mecha-mode during the fighting? You'd think being groped by an octopus would kinda mark the point in the fight where you might want to pull out the big guns.

4. So if I'm understanding this right, a Shinki went through a blender and survived? And the first scene last episode showed the pink-haired Shinki getting impaled by the Strarf model, and she didn't seem worse for the wear. Holy crap, they're pretty much indestructible, aren't they?

5. So we've got indestructible robots armed with lethal weapons flying around. Why has this not been exploited for military purposes? Why is the world not a war-ravaged wasteland haunted by the memories of 6-inch tall super soldiers yet?

6. 10:30. Why is she talking to Lene's crotch?

Well.....Look in the spoiler for my response to your questions.



1) Howling and MaoChao provoked the Octoupus from the looks. Nothing more can be said from my end.

2) Probably, just kept in the all time low. I did hear of a Master that died and a Shinki named Artemis going rogue, to the point of controlling the whole web in sorrow. You had to fight her in an MMO called Battle Rondo which is now dead. As for any other? All hush hush....for now.

3) Patience my young Padawan. Serious...patience. We're getting there, just takes time depending on the studio. If 8 Bit studio won't give us one then petition White Fox Studios to pick it up because of how well they did Katangatari and Jormungand. If it gets into legal issues then blah.

4) Well, Shinkis aren't biological so their systems can survive just a bit longer separately. Seeing as how you can swap parts to customize them I'm going to assume the "fine-detailings" are positioned all so carefully to mind the combat making it easier to swap damaged parts, or to customize. I'll also assume it all depends on the head and the CSC cores in the breasts being left intact enough to be functional if fully delimbed in combat. Pink haired Shinki is named Eukrante if you've been wondering, she had a hologram building drop on her yet only registered pain via the program. Ever watch Star Trek? Do you know of the Holodeck? Ya, interact with such in and out of battles, expect for when moving around the world. If you see a stadium or a visualizer gadget take note of holograms. In the park they fought using the Visualizer gadget while Rihito (main character) used it as a Diorama Studio device (another program from the dead Battle Rondo MMO) to please his Shinkis.

5) If you watched the Moon Angel OVA you'll notice they tried with Athena. They also tried to do so with Arnval and Strarf in that lab only to have Arnval flee. She turned into Tempesta to wreck havoc. Just like with #2, it has been kept at a low-point.

6) She isn't? Just positioned that way when talking to Arnval (Ann). One of those random fan-service poses.



Hope this helped. The only thing that bugs me about the show is how they spawn their equipment at will instead of taking the time to equip it. The rest is fine.

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Edit:


Seeing your blog, I'm not surprised at all you'd want that visualiser. Me, I'd settle for any Shinki.

Ya, I'd have fun using the Visualizer for my figure Shinkis along with the real ones. For when it gets cold (-40*C with windchill) that Visualizer would come in handy, photoshooting wise. Though, if I had an actual living Shinki I'd use it constantly for their sake. But if I had to settle with anything I would want a real Shinki Renge to wreck havoc with in my area, basically to spice things up heh.



So...Shinkis actually have a feature that allows them to "eat" and to analyze food in the process eh? This still surprises me, even though I saw the ED with Arnval for the Moon Angel OVA with the spilled milk being licked off her face then finger. I'll use the theory stated here because it makes the most sense out of anything right now.

http://ghostlysubstance.swgbex.com/Blog/blogpics/October/BSEP02-67.jpg

Random Wanderer
2012-10-13, 12:38
Did you people really have to think in that direction? There have been a quite a few shows where machines eat organic food for "fuel." Minatsu from Da Capo II comes to mind. The food consumed most likely goes through some kinda conversion and then evaporates when used.

That's what I guessed. He's the one who insisted on going biology with it. I just said I'd rather not think about it that way.

ogon_bat
2012-10-13, 12:40
3. Why didn't any of the Shinkis go mecha-mode during the fighting? You'd think being groped by an octopus would kinda mark the point in the fight where you might want to pull out the big guns.

Quite the opposite, it makes perfect sense that if a shinki encounters any organic living being their own system would not allow them to materialize "the big guns", even if said creature starts tearing them apart, it makes perfect business sense, one death of a human (or even a cat or dog) at the hands of a shinki would blow their business model to kingdom come, because toys labeled as dangerous get out of the shelves before you can even say "shocking hazard".

4. So if I'm understanding this right, a Shinki went through a blender and survived? And the first scene last episode showed the pink-haired Shinki getting impaled by the Strarf model, and she didn't seem worse for the wear. Holy crap, they're pretty much indestructible, aren't they?

They aren't organic, so you can cut them to pieces without rupturing their ghost from their bodies. But I wonder if their "brain" is really inside their bodies (anyone that say GitS TV series should remember that), for all we know they might be inside a city wide high speed wi.fi network so even if they are blown to smithereens their ghost should be intact (albeit the trauma of being slowly beep fried until your master rescued it should last a lifetime) somewhere in the cloud.

5. So we've got indestructible robots armed with lethal weapons flying around. Why has this not been exploited for military purposes? Why is the world not a war-ravaged wasteland haunted by the memories of 6-inch tall super soldiers yet?

With semi-autonomous drone warcraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-37) in the present time, I think we will see robot soliders (bigger han 6") that are not cute nor can cook or clean in our lifetimes :/

Kyuu
2012-10-13, 19:58
Well crap. This series takes everything back all the way to Rozen Maiden. :heh:

And if there's one thing to wonder: if sentient dolls of small size can be made, where are the human sized ones? :heh: (in b4 Chobits)

Cyrogen
2012-10-13, 20:23
That means they can poop as well?

Damn, now I have the mental image of someone seeing a poop in the corner of a room & one of the Shinkin yelling "It wasn't me, it was the hamster!"

Lukeman1884
2012-10-13, 20:35
Did you people really have to think in that direction? There have been a quite a few shows where machines eat organic food for "fuel." Minatsu from Da Capo II comes to mind. The food consumed most likely goes through some kinda conversion and then evaporates when used.

I thought it was pretty cool when Ann tasted that green liquid (green tea? but why would it have salt?), It showed that she was analyzing the taste with a graph. I just thought that was really interesting, you don't see that very often.

Well, it stands to reason that in any sort of conversion process, you're gonna have material waste. And unless they've all got incinerators built into themselves, that waste needs to go somewhere...................................

Random Wanderer
2012-10-13, 20:44
Well, it stands to reason that in any sort of conversion process, you're gonna have material waste.

Not any just most. Science fiction allows for conversion with no waste.

ogon_bat
2012-10-13, 22:03
And if there's one thing to wonder: if sentient dolls of small size can be made, where are the human sized ones? :heh: (in b4 Chobits)

IMO they are illegal because they would doom human civilization. Think about it, for the price of a car you get e-x-a-c-t-l-y the woman (mind and body) that you want (or that your personality test suggests), she will never age, she will never get sick, she will never tire, she will never get old, if they can install a womb to nurture a fertilized embryo, then who would NEED a human woman?

Addendum, robot polygamy is not more illegal than having more than one car O_o;

Wild Goose
2012-10-13, 23:05
Well crap. This series takes everything back all the way to Rozen Maiden. :heh:

And if there's one thing to wonder: if sentient dolls of small size can be made, where are the human sized ones? :heh: (in b4 Chobits)

You missed my post earlier. This is a spoilered plot point relating to the Moon Angel ONA.

Rayrah
2012-10-14, 10:25
So.. many ass shots. But.. all those joints. ;_; And tentacles? That's just lulzy. Ah, still an enjoyable episode nonetheless..

TnAdct1
2012-10-14, 15:50
That means they can poop as well? Please don't go there. As someone who's been collecting the figures for a couple of years now, the last thing I want to think about is whether or not the Shinki can use the bathroom.

So.. many ass shots. But.. all those joints. ;_; Oh yeah. Given the outfits of a number of the figures, ass shots of the girls have been common in fan art. As for the feat of ball joints, there are a few Busou Shinki fanartist on Pixiv that have done pictures of the girls without the joints.

Guido
2012-10-14, 17:45
Wild Goose thanks for the answer to my previous question.


Now, back on-topic, the girls got very clever to make use of Hinas' abilities to have all the four main dishes prepared. That's what I call thinking outside the box to make use of Hina's skirmish with the cat-Shinki to prepare the dishes using unconventional means; Hina's swordfightiing literally slicing at the ingredients thrown at her to make the dishes.

Although Hina's feels not subdued or thankful to have unwillingly helped the other girls, nevertheless, she felt her master's kind gratitude to make her blush.


Either Strarf models behave this rowdy with a penchant to battle seriously, or Hina's actually the same Starf seen at the start of the first episode winning the tournament fight.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-14, 17:46
Either Strarf models behave this rowdy with a penchant to battle seriously, or Hina's actually the same Starf seen at the start of the first episode winning the tournament fight.


Their eye colors are different. I'd say they're probably not the same.

KaoruAoiShiho
2012-10-14, 18:01
You need to watch the first episode again

In this episode we see the armor get stuck in some food, so it's not like it's in a pokeball or something. It's a real suit?

In this world we have a lot of really advanced technology but there's no evidence of any teleportation.

I think the lights from EP1 was just special effects to make it cooler, but there is a manual equip phase for the armor.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-14, 18:07
I think the lights from EP1 was just special effects to make it cooler, but there is a manual equip phase for the armor.

All of the girls, including the Eukrante, teleported their armor onto themselves in episode 1. And also teleported it off themselves when they were done using it. There is no way to make it plainer that they do not have to manually put it on, because they actually showed that they do not have to manually put it on.

ogon_bat
2012-10-14, 19:28
All of the girls, including the Eukrante, teleported their armor onto themselves in episode 1. And also teleported it off themselves when they were done using it. There is no way to make it plainer that they do not have to manually put it on, because they actually showed that they do not have to manually put it on.

I have another theory, strings theory calls for more than three dimensions, but those extra dimensions are not necessarily infinite, they might be only a few centimeters deep. So my bet is that the shinki ALWAYS have their armor on, they just fold it 90º into one of those dimensions (which happen to be totally empty), so it might look like some kind of teleportation when they put it inside our three dimensional space.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-14, 21:33
I have another theory, strings theory calls for more than three dimensions, but those extra dimensions are not necessarily infinite, they might be only a few centimeters deep. So my bet is that the shinki ALWAYS have their armor on, they just fold it 90º into one of those dimensions (which happen to be totally empty), so it might look like some kind of teleportation when they put it inside our three dimensional space.

:eyebrow: For our purposes, I do not see how that functionally differs from what I said.

ogon_bat
2012-10-14, 22:28
:eyebrow: For our purposes, I do not see how that functionally differs from what I said.

Elemental my dear wanderer, no matter where you look at, teleportation is considered to be a feat accomplished while not moving at all (at least I fail to remember any tv series or book that tells otherwise). Meanwhile folding/unfolding something from an extra dimensional space that is at all times attached to the shinki can logically be accomplished since it is already there, 0% probability of failure even if moving at high speed and/or aceleration. Beside, teleportation has the added hassle of having a range, which for a household item would be a radius of about 50 meters from wherever the shinki armor is stored.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-14, 22:59
Elemental my dear wanderer, no matter where you look at, teleportation is considered to be a feat accomplished while not moving at all (at least I fail to remember any tv series or book that tells otherwise).

I do. In plenty of cases motion is compeltely irrelevent.

Meanwhile folding/unfolding something from an extra dimensional space that is at all times attached to the shinki can logically be accomplished since it is already there, 0% probability of failure even if moving at high speed and/or aceleration. Beside, teleportation has the added hassle of having a range, which for a household item would be a radius of about 50 meters from wherever the shinki armor is stored.

:eyebrow: Given that neither you nor I nor anyone here actually knows how this works, those numbers you're throwing around are a complete fabrication.

ogon_bat
2012-10-14, 23:28
I do. In plenty of cases motion is compeltely irrelevent.
:eyebrow:

Given that neither you nor I nor anyone here actually knows how this works, those numbers you're throwing around are a complete fabrication.

The key word here is "household item". If they can get 1 penny of extra income by reducing teleportation range to less than one 1% of its potential range, they will choose to make a penny of extra income, happens every time in real life _-_

Random Wanderer
2012-10-14, 23:36
:eyebrow:



The key word here is "household item". If they can get 1 penny of extra income by reducing teleportation range to less than one 1% of its potential range, they will choose to make a penny of extra income, happens every time in real life _-_

But without knowing how the system for summoning their armor works, arbitrarily limiting it to a 50-meter range is ridiculous. We don't know. Distance may not be a factor at all: it may cost exactly the same amount of energy to send it two inches as it does to send it 20,000 miles. We don't know.

And from our perspective, it does not matter. They can wander around in their skinsuits most of the time and then have their armor in in a flash (literally). How it works is simply not important for the purpose that this series seems to be using it for.

ogon_bat
2012-10-14, 23:39
How it works is simply not important for the purpose that this series seems to be using it for.

Under that assumption Trekkies would have had nothing to talk about for decades after the cancellation of the original series :-p

blitz1/2
2012-10-15, 01:45
Wild Goose thanks for the answer to my previous question.


Now, back on-topic, the girls got very clever to make use of Hinas' abilities to have all the four main dishes prepared. That's what I call thinking outside the box to make use of Hina's skirmish with the cat-Shinki to prepare the dishes using unconventional means; Hina's swordfightiing literally slicing at the ingredients thrown at her to make the dishes.

Although Hina's feels not subdued or thankful to have unwillingly helped the other girls, nevertheless, she felt her master's kind gratitude to make her blush.


Either Strarf models behave this rowdy with a penchant to battle seriously, or Hina's actually the same Starf seen at the start of the first episode winning the tournament fight.


I don't think they are the same models as the one in the first ep is I think is the original Strarf. Hina is a Strarf Mk II. Arn is also Arnval Mk II.

KaoruAoiShiho
2012-10-15, 10:52
They can't have teleportation because they still have cars and trains...

Flower
2012-10-15, 13:23
Okay - watched eps 1 and 2 and must admit that I kinda liked it. Then again, I liked the OVA too. This is kind of a "light watch" for me, but an enjoyable one. :)

Random Wanderer
2012-10-15, 17:56
They can't have teleportation because they still have cars and trains...

Not conclusive. It may not work safely on organic creatures. It may require special materials or components in the object being transported, and/or the object it's being transported too. It may destroy the original object and create a duplicate. The armor may be a holographic projection from an emitter inside the shinki's main body. It may not matter at all, and the armor's state of existance may remain ambiguous so they can both have the shinki summon it and have it lying around to get covered in whatever that stuff was Aines was covering it in.

Soliloquy
2012-10-16, 05:30
I like this one because it's like Rozen Maiden without a brat. And I like the fact both the main cast of Yuno and Miyako, also voices the main character here. For now it's a very low-key and slice of life type of show which for me is a good thing. For now I don't know anything about names and all the technical details which I feel isn't that important for the time being as the anime being very slow paced. And the antagonists were rather cute than harmful.

Wild Goose
2012-10-16, 23:36
I don't think they are the same models as the one in the first ep is I think is the original Strarf. Hina is a Strarf Mk II. Arn is also Arnval Mk II.

Are you sure on that? Ann (no r, goddamnit) was stated to have been with Master's family since childhood, and the Arnval Mk. 2 only came out recently, as I recall.

Random Wanderer
2012-10-17, 07:05
Are you sure on that? Ann (no r, goddamnit) was stated to have been with Master's family since childhood, and the Arnval Mk. 2 only came out recently, as I recall.

How recently is recently? We don't have a timeline. But at least one other reviewer has identified her as Arnval Mk. 2.

HandofFate
2012-10-17, 16:05
Series kind of reminds me of Adventures of Mini-Goddess, crossed with a bit of Angelic Layer+moe Toy Story.

I don't know anything about this particular line of toys, so I can't really enjoy recognizing any of the figurines in this show.

blitz1/2
2012-10-17, 19:46
Are you sure on that? Ann (no r, goddamnit) was stated to have been with Master's family since childhood, and the Arnval Mk. 2 only came out recently, as I recall.

You can tell about the difference is that Arnval Mk II is due to the complex wing design with the 2 boosters. UNLESS, the owner bought the original Arnval figure BUT purchasing the Mk II equipment separately, (which still equals to Arnval Mk II)
See this for Mk 2 design
http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/U/UNOYO/20100716/20100716102332.jpg

The original Arnval has wide like wings.
http://www.konami.jp/products/busou_figure_arnval/images/arnval.jpg

hair is customisable, just letting you know to tell you that hair length won't make a difference.

Wild Goose
2012-10-17, 21:23
Hmmmm~ Interesting. Okay, noted. So Ann is an Arnval Mk.2, confirmed then.

kaizerknight01
2012-10-18, 07:27
Hmmm a bit off topic i just re discovered some stop motions involving the Shinki's

PogIm0HY-6o&feature

eps2 ...arrrg ... Tentacles arrg ... I hate those ...... Loath those .....

Midonin
2012-10-18, 13:26
I'm half expecting Ann to jump into a bath at the end of every episode. The moods of Shinki and Hidamari make a good pairing. In some ways, the structure of this episode was very similar to the previous Hidamari outings, with the starting three spending their time in the bath (with towels) after a terrible pun (sentou/sentou, one I've seen everywhere), and Hina off doing something else with Clara. The second half, however, was much less so. It was probably one of the most battle-heavy episode to date. I loved the new Shinki that debuted this week, with their bike transformation. It's very Kamen Rider Accel, though they obviously predate him by several tears.

Pochi and Tamami, the duo from the previous episode, returned for both this one and next week, taking on the role of a Team Rocket-esque group of comic antagonists. I foresee many puns in the future. Even with the high-speed battle going on (the animation for it was pretty nice), the show still maintains a pretty heartwarming air.

This show may also have created a butt-painting fetish. Even with the doll joints, that's pretty decent Hina fanservice. Next week looks to be a race between the Shinki. Sure, two of them are actual bikes, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll win.

Wilfriback
2012-10-18, 14:17
That hamster is EVIL.

blitz1/2
2012-10-18, 14:21
Yes! They are even bringing the Nitro drinks next week!

serenade_beta
2012-10-18, 19:19
( "・ω・゛) Mmm... Whether you should feel wrong looking at this scene in a "strange" way...
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/5316/shinki.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/shinki.jpg/)

blitz1/2
2012-10-18, 20:14
( "・ω・゛) Mmm... Whether you should feel wrong looking at this scene in a "strange" way...
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/5316/shinki.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/shinki.jpg/)

Dat burn mark...*shot*

D-KLAC
2012-10-19, 07:23
ep.3
so now give seen of a robbery going so hina & doll from ep.1 doing so scouting to find clues while other 3 just spa bath relax?

oh here some more dolls in racer outfit mode then other 3 arrive cause find proof clear their master name.

so after bit hoopla manage calm it all all fine the master is safe, two cat dolls got team rocket treatment, & hina need a painting clean.

next is racing ep.

Midonin
2012-10-19, 17:56
Both the OP and ED singles are released, and I like the songs. They capture the mood of the series well, and the OP in particular has this majestic feel to it that the full version improves from the TV cut.

Elestia
2012-10-19, 19:23
We got the duo Horie Yui and Yukari Tamura playing the racer girls which was quite a nice surprise. Reminded me of the twin sisters from Ben-To when I realized who was voicing them.

Scarletknive
2012-10-20, 00:09
We got the duo Horie Yui and Yukari Tamura playing the racer girls which was quite a nice surprise. Reminded me of the twin sisters from Ben-To when I realized who was voicing them.

At least it is not like Ben-To, where they just curbstomp them.

Yes! They are even bringing the Nitro drinks next week!

Did some say Nitro Drinks? *Gets Lamborghini Diablo.*

Tsundere Louise
2012-10-20, 02:48
So this anime turns from little android fights into ecchi little android fights, huh...?

Lukeman1884
2012-10-20, 05:17
1. So apparently the Pink-haired one (can never remember her name) now knows where they live. I loved her speech :"While a lone Shinki may be weak.......". If being able to bust through ceilings and walls with a 6-inch body is weak, I'd LOVE to see what she considers strong. Nuclear warheads?

2. And while I'm on the topic, for someone who was apparently the runner up in a world championship tournament, miss pink-hair sure went down easy. Ann managed to take her down in ep 1 as well. She must've REALLY let herself go after she lost.

3. And just how did those two not realise their master was the bad guy? DID THEY NOT SEE HIS MOUSTACHE????

4. Wait, I'm confused. So the Shinki's undersuits are painted on? Then how did they get naked for the bath? The only explanation I can think of is part swapping, but then that raises the question of why you'd want to go buy naked body parts for your doll. (That's a rhetorical question, we ALL know EXACTLY why you'd want those parts)

5. "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screwhole". I....................don't even know what to say to that. Is that what the Japanese ACTUALLY says? Or just a pun thrown in by the subbers?

kankyo
2012-10-20, 06:14
1. So apparently the Pink-haired one (can never remember her name)
Clara.

5. "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screwhole". I....................don't even know what to say to that. Is that what the Japanese ACTUALLY says? Or just a pun thrown in by the subbers?
Yeah, that's a literal translation. In Japanese "screw" doesn't have that other meaning though.

LoweGear
2012-10-20, 06:21
Well, she is called "Clara", but to be technical she's a Eukrante-model Shinki, much like how "Hina" is a Strarf.

Also, Yda reminds me of Cecilia from IS in her manner of speech. I'm still hoping to see the newer biker model Shinkis in here, Estoril and Jill.

Wild Goose
2012-10-20, 09:46
Look, just roll with it. This isn't exactly the Dark Knight Saga - and even then there were a lot of fridge logic moments in that show.

ogon_bat
2012-10-20, 10:17
1. So apparently the Pink-haired one (can never remember her name) now knows where they live. I loved her speech :"While a lone Shinki may be weak.......". If being able to bust through ceilings and walls with a 6-inch body is weak, I'd LOVE to see what she considers strong. Nuclear warheads?

Maybe there is a shinki only option on google maps to pinpoint any other shinki in their area, remember the cat shinki also knew and maybe our merry group comes from an area devoid of shinki so they thought there would be none nearby.

BTW, what she forgot to say is that human beings are puny >_<

2. And while I'm on the topic, for someone who was apparently the runner up in a world championship tournament, miss pink-hair sure went down easy. Ann managed to take her down in ep 1 as well. She must've REALLY let herself go after she lost.

IMO that means Ann is really strong, remember those who win fighting tournaments are not necessarily the strongest (anyone remember Mr. Satan?)

3. And just how did those two not realise their master was the bad guy? DID THEY NOT SEE HIS MOUSTACHE????

I will say in their defense that he lacked a goatee.

4. Wait, I'm confused. So the Shinki's undersuits are painted on? Then how did they get naked for the bath? The only explanation I can think of is part swapping, but then that raises the question of why you'd want to go buy naked body parts for your doll. (That's a rhetorical question, we ALL know EXACTLY why you'd want those parts)

The logical answer is that (their master) uses paint that goes invisible when in contact with warm water, te he he.

5. "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screwhole". I....................don't even know what to say to that. Is that what the Japanese ACTUALLY says? Or just a pun thrown in by the subbers?

Remember cleanness is religious value in orient :)

GenjiChan
2012-10-20, 10:19
Episode 3

Transformers...

Snuffle
2012-10-20, 11:32
I want the battle music that plays after Ann shows up. :p
This show is turning out better than expected, the fights needs a little bit more lighting on the effects tho.
And why are people concentrating on why mini-mech are nude? Shouldn't we be more interested in that these dolls are programed to feel horny?

Ann "Oh, that feels good."
Lene "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screw hole."
Ann "Oh, Ah, Ah! N-Not there!"
Hamster (while scratching head) "wtf are they doing in there..."
LOL :heh:

Let's not forget Ann was checking out her own ass to see if she needed 'repairs' just like Hina was getting. :heh:

Kaihan
2012-10-20, 11:49
The way they go all out to catch the criminal and protect their fellow Shinkis (and master). Is this a sign of Shinki's world domination? :heh:

Kinda have to agree about that runner up Shinki in the world championship tournament. She was knocked out by someone who just came out of the package. I guess the power to protect their master is something...

ogon_bat
2012-10-20, 13:02
Ann "Oh, that feels good."
Lene "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screw hole."
Ann "Oh, Ah, Ah! N-Not there!"
Hamster (while scratching head) "wtf are they doing in there..."
LOL :heh:

An new genre has been born, mecha musume yuri!

Let's not forget Ann was checking out her own ass to see if she needed 'repairs' just like Hina was getting. :heh:

I was really expecting her(them) to grab a screwdriver and star peeling of her own paint job. It is surprising how well they tend to get along seeing how much they crave for even the slightiest of the attentions from their master.

TnAdct1
2012-10-20, 13:30
I'm likely going to check out the first episode sometime this weekend to see if I should continue to watch this show (as I've been collecting the figures and have my own unique story idea that could clash with the personalities of some of the characters in the series). However, before I do that, I did check out the OP, and as someone who has knowledge of the Busou Shinki franchise, here's my comments about the other Shinki that appear in the OP (outside of the ones that have already been shown): -If the OP is showing off all the Shinki that will appear in the show, then it is likely a sigh of relief for me that my two favorite characters in the figure line, Artille and Vervietta, are not going to appear in the series.

-Something tells me that the mermaid Shinki (Ianeira) will have some connection with Kurara.

-Rie Kugimiya fans will likely be happy to know that she'll be voicing one of the Shinki (and given her character's Shinki type, I wonder if this will be an Xmas episode).

-Given the cast of the Shinki that have appeared so far (and those who appear in the OP), I'm sure some people will wish that Akemi Kanda and Ai Nonaka were voicing Shinki as well. ;)

Random Wanderer
2012-10-20, 15:10
4. Wait, I'm confused. So the Shinki's undersuits are painted on? Then how did they get naked for the bath? The only explanation I can think of is part swapping, but then that raises the question of why you'd want to go buy naked body parts for your doll. (That's a rhetorical question, we ALL know EXACTLY why you'd want those parts)

They may come as part of the standard set. It's entirely possible, really.

And why are people concentrating on why mini-mech are nude? Shouldn't we be more interested in that these dolls are programed to feel horny?

Ann "Oh, that feels good."
Lene "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screw hole."
Ann "Oh, Ah, Ah! N-Not there!"

There's a lot about these Shinki that gets disturbing if we think about it too much.

This show may also have created a butt-painting fetish. Even with the doll joints, that's pretty decent Hina fanservice.

That position... :uhoh:

I'm likely going to check out the first episode sometime this weekend to see if I should continue to watch this show

It depends on what you're looking for. The art-quality in this show isn't particularly high, although the CG work in the combat scenes is surprisingly dcent. Likewise, the story and characters are not particularly deep. What we've got here are some decent fun times watching the antics of these doll-girls, without much in the way of anything serious happening. And some fanservice, with a bit of weirdness thrown in due to doll-joints.

Snuffle
2012-10-20, 17:52
There's a lot about these Shinki that gets disturbing if we think about it too much.

Disturbing? Nah. More fun and interesting? Hell yes! I can just imagine it now, all the games a Shinki (Ann preferably) and I could play. :D

Random Wanderer
2012-10-20, 18:12
Disturbing? Nah. More fun and interesting? Hell yes! I can just imagine it now, all the games a Shinki (Ann preferably) and I could play. :D

The fact that they are programmed, straight out of the box apparently, to romantically love their master is somewhat disturbing, if you ask me. I'm not big on someone being forced to love someone else.

There are numerous little things like that that shouldn't be thought about too much, or they start becoming unsettling.

kankyo
2012-10-20, 18:39
The fact that they are programmed, straight out of the box apparently, to romantically love their master is somewhat disturbing, if you ask me. I'm not big on someone being forced to love someone else.

There are numerous little things like that that shouldn't be thought about too much, or they start becoming unsettling.

I'm not sure we've been shown evidence of their love being specifically romantic?
That said, I'm also not sure if any human could possibly be worthy of the kind of devotion Shinki have to their Masters.

ogon_bat
2012-10-20, 22:53
The fact that they are programmed, straight out of the box apparently, to romantically love their master is somewhat disturbing, if you ask me. I'm not big on someone being forced to love someone else.

I am not sure if that qualifies as romantic love, maybe it would be more adequate to say that they serve with enthusiasm and "As the great Andrew Martin once said "One is glad to be of service". ".

Random Wanderer
2012-10-20, 23:39
If you don't think our four girls are in love with their master, I have to ask if you've been watching the same thing I've been watching. Hina was brand new, yet still was hardcore tsundere for him right away. I doubt he selected that as part of their behavior (he doesn't have enough personality for me to believe he is capable of making decisions that have any significance), so she, and presumably the others, have that as part of their personality from the start.

serenade_beta
2012-10-21, 00:01
I am not sure if that qualifies as romantic love, maybe it would be more adequate to say that they serve with enthusiasm and "As the great Andrew Martin once said "One is glad to be of service". ".

Mmm... But they hoped the love letter was to them, so I'm not so sure it is just enthusiasm.

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-21, 01:22
1. So apparently the Pink-haired one (can never remember her name) now knows where they live. I loved her speech :"While a lone Shinki may be weak.......". If being able to bust through ceilings and walls with a 6-inch body is weak, I'd LOVE to see what she considers strong. Nuclear warheads?

2. And while I'm on the topic, for someone who was apparently the runner up in a world championship tournament, miss pink-hair sure went down easy. Ann managed to take her down in ep 1 as well. She must've REALLY let herself go after she lost.

3. And just how did those two not realise their master was the bad guy? DID THEY NOT SEE HIS MOUSTACHE????

4. Wait, I'm confused. So the Shinki's undersuits are painted on? Then how did they get naked for the bath? The only explanation I can think of is part swapping, but then that raises the question of why you'd want to go buy naked body parts for your doll. (That's a rhetorical question, we ALL know EXACTLY why you'd want those parts)

5. "It's a lady's job to be clean down to her last screwhole". I....................don't even know what to say to that. Is that what the Japanese ACTUALLY says? Or just a pun thrown in by the subbers?

If you want answers open up the spoiler


1) Eukrante? They're both fragile and strong at the same time is probably the meaning Eukrante is going for. Strong enough to fight but weak to be constantly repaired. Or I have to watch the episodes subbed to get what you and her mean. As you seen with Arnval Shinkis have GPS to locate fellow Shinkis.

2) Eukrante? Her name seems to be Clara so there you go. She seems to be very clumsy without her master. Either that, or she is purposely letting herself look weaker for the sake of comedy in the Anime.

3) Quickly activated awaiting to recieve their name. Probably a quick activation and fed them the situation, similar to how Hina was activated then awaiting to be given a name and etc.

4) The Shinki clothing they wear is painted on, yes. The only time they DO wear clothing is when Lene or us Shinki figure collectors put on the "cloth name" armor on them. As for the whole naked bit? I'm going to assume the Visualizer gadget nudifies the bodies for them in a hologram style.

5) My best guess would be the subbers. If it was a Japanese pun then I wouldn't be surprised either way. Just take it in and move on :D

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-10-21, 01:26
The logical answer is that (their master) uses paint that goes invisible when in contact with warm water, te he he.


Well, I will note your guess. Knowing Shinkis the paint stays on regardless so the Visualizer gadget itself nudifies the Shinkis. We're seeing them nude because the visualizer gadget covered them up in that fake portion.....Take note in episode 2 when all four Shinkis change the settings similar to Battle Rondo's Diorama Studio, they go nude when in the onsen only to get their body back when in a "normal" setting. The visualizer itself covers up their body by inserting data or playing with the light frequency.

Konami and 8-Bit Studio is free to prove me wrong though. I will stick with the Visual Gadget assumption until proven wrong by them.

Midonin
2012-10-25, 13:08
Every episode up to now has focused on Ann and Hina in some fashion, so having the spotlight shift focus to Aines and Lene was a nice change of pace. They still had things to do (Ann got a lot accomplished offscreen), but this week belonged to Lene and the "Masked Shinki" (though everyone knew it was Aines anyway.) Just a fun little episode that brings together all of the assembled cast members from the past episodes. Clara gets another victory added to her scorecard, but it's kind of a downer victory. She just ran across the finish line with only a steering wheel - not the best of circumstances to be in. All the hijinks - from Lenes' choice of replacement vehicle to the pit trap got at least a chuckle out of me.

And in the opening segment, Hina's actually helping around the house now. Not quite with a smile on her face, but she's opening up a bit. Now with that out of the way, it's time for a beach episode!

TnAdct1
2012-10-25, 16:37
Now with that out of the way, it's time for a beach episode! I wonder if we'll be seeing the swimsuit pieces for Ann and Hina that came with one of the Busou Shinki PSP games.

serenade_beta
2012-10-26, 00:03
The whole trading thing from something small to something great happens in anime, but doing it the opposite way was kind of new. :heh:
And then she traded back to get something great too! Ann's usefulness >>> The other three.

Kurara ga Katta!

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2568/kurara.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/kurara.jpg/)

Algester
2012-10-26, 11:35
If you want answers open up the spoiler


1) Eukrante? They're both fragile and strong at the same time is probably the meaning Eukrante is going for. Strong enough to fight but weak to be constantly repaired. Or I have to watch the episodes subbed to get what you and her mean. As you seen with Arnval Shinkis have GPS to locate fellow Shinkis.

2) Eukrante? Her name seems to be Clara so there you go. She seems to be very clumsy without her master. Either that, or she is purposely letting herself look weaker for the sake of comedy in the Anime.

3) Quickly activated awaiting to recieve their name. Probably a quick activation and fed them the situation, similar to how Hina was activated then awaiting to be given a name and etc.

4) The Shinki clothing they wear is painted on, yes. The only time they DO wear clothing is when Lene or us Shinki figure collectors put on the "cloth name" armor on them. As for the whole naked bit? I'm going to assume the Visualizer gadget nudifies the bodies for them in a hologram style.

5) My best guess would be the subbers. If it was a Japanese pun then I wouldn't be surprised either way. Just take it in and move on :D


another thing might be is that the master has bought naked parts in the past... since technically the naked parts is really up to the user to customize.. and as for the bodies in a way its painted on not sure molded with the outlines painted checking my Labriete as an example... I still want to get an Arnval MK2 Tempesta...

Guido
2012-10-27, 16:09
The first serious battle for Hina in the third episode and was quite packed with adrenaline rushes and power struggles.

Good relief for the girls' Master that the charges on him were dropped once the true culprit was caught; thanks to some miniature fighters.:D

LoweGear
2012-10-28, 03:20
Sub's out for 4 finally. So many Shinki's appearing that I can't even name them all, but of course only the main ones get significant screentime. Ia nonchalantly changing the rules for the hell of it due to the changing circumstances has to be the best part though.

And of course, Ann saves the day once again in the most unexpected manner :heh:

Wild Goose
2012-10-28, 04:15
I think there is one fundamental rule of shinki, and that is (after shinki are made of coherent love) that Arnval is the best mabu-rabu evar.

...

I mean, Arnval is the best Shinki, because she's not afraid and can do anything. Full spec Arnvsl Mk 2 is more like an lightning bruiser who can fight in all roles well, and isn't just a one trick pony or a Jack of all trades.

Tsundere Louise
2012-10-28, 06:41
Somehow I've got a feeling like I was watching Wacky Races, only in Japanese style and with shinki's... Well, the episode was funny, so it was good.

Ep 5 preview: So even swimsuits count as armor? >.>

D-KLAC
2012-10-28, 07:01
ep.4
well give more characters develop focus ep on aines & lene give either all 4 are "sisters".

yea race went mix of wacky racing & mario kart with minus turtle shell cause team rocket cat-shinki sneak but denied.

yet it was one hole sterring wheel wins but 4 main & master get vaciation trip cue ann won raffle to get trip & next ep beach, hamster, & shooter?

GenjiChan
2012-10-28, 07:12
After watching this episode.. I was lost...

DRAGUN H.E.X.
2012-10-28, 09:44
After watching this episode.. I was lost...

cue Howling by Abingdon Boys School's english parts of the lyrics in the beginning..... :heh:

LoweGear
2012-10-28, 09:49
cue Howling by Abingdon Boys School's english parts of the lyrics in the beginning..... :heh:

Someone better make a Busou Shinki AMV to the tune of that song :uhoh:

Rayrah
2012-10-28, 16:45
Episode 4: Ann proves that she's the best Shinki. Or, well, the luckiest anyway. ;p

Snuffle
2012-10-28, 19:55
Episode 04:
I was so preoccupied with the race that I completely did not notice that Ann was going through a "Straw Millionaire" effect. :heh: She was just going on with her everyday life, even smiling when she's all by herself, however she keeps running into bad luck with more bad luck. But in the end, she wins big. :D

Her back armor > Umbrella > Lily pad(?) Leaf > Toy car > Bean >
Watermelon > Tanuki Statue > Raffle Ticket > Vacation Prize to Okinawa. :D:heh:

Master_Yoma
2012-10-28, 21:09
Now that was a race with no disappointments just so much good cheating going on:heh:

Lukeman1884
2012-10-28, 22:36
1. So it seems that in a proper battlefield, the Shinkis can materialize their armor at will, but outside if it they need to equip it manually. Fair enough

2. So it seems Shinki can cry as well. See, the only reason I can come up with for this is to try and make them seem more human, but the more human you make them, the more unethical this whole "programmed to love your master" thing is.

3. I promise I'm gonna stop harping on about the physics one of these days, but really, how does a toy umbrella THAT small provide enough drag to flip a Shinki, who weighs enough to catapult a knife halfway across a room, AND her armor?

SQA
2012-10-28, 23:23
On point #3: depending how fast they were going, it wouldn't have to provide much drag to cause a car to flip. It's just a matter of producing an angle for lift to be created by the undercarriage of the vehicle.

Though the Shinki racer didn't have that type of design to cause that. But if we're arguing the physics of Busou Shinki, I think we're doing this all wrong. :)

ogon_bat
2012-10-28, 23:26
One minor detail that caught my eye in episode 4, seems Shinki can own property the okinawa ticketand money wonder what straf wants to buy so badly, a new sword? a gift for master? a full-sized body?Therefore they have some rights after being activated.

Snuffle
2012-10-28, 23:34
A question for anyone that cares to think about it. Those two Shinki's that were introduced in episode 3, the biker type ones.

If they have no master, how the heck do they recharge themselves?

I've been wondering this ever since they said they were going on a journey... So... How long would that even last? Since they can't recharge themselves without that thing that Ann and the rest sleep on. That's their charger right?

ogon_bat
2012-10-28, 23:38
I have only seen these anime, where I do not remember hearing the word "charging" even once, maybe their batteries can go on for a year (the dream of any laptop user)? Because otherwise they would have to steal energy from somewhere O_o;

Lukeman1884
2012-10-29, 03:18
A question for anyone that cares to think about it. Those two Shinki's that were introduced in episode 3, the biker type ones.

If they have no master, how the heck do they recharge themselves?

I've been wondering this ever since they said they were going on a journey... So... How long would that even last? Since they can't recharge themselves without that thing that Ann and the rest sleep on. That's their charger right?

It's possible that they've got the ability to get energy from multiple sources, like those jerry cans they drank out of. Or perhaps solar power?

Also something else I missed, Yda and Ach spawned their armor without being in a battlefield. So why did Lene need Ann's?

LoweGear
2012-10-29, 03:24
Also something else I missed, Yda and Ach spawned their armor without being in a battlefield. So why did Lene need Ann's?

I think it's likely that the engines on Lene's armor isn't as portable as Ann's was. Where Arnval's engines are all mounted on a single subflight lifter, Altlene has theirs all over their body, mostly on the large skirts. It's easier to just place Ann's subflight lifter on the cart and just run with it, rather than having to arrange individual pieces of armor to do the same thing.

TheEroKing
2012-10-31, 12:03
http://i.imgur.com/QGLjVl.jpg (http://imgur.com/QGLjV)

http://i.imgur.com/0gj17l.jpg (http://imgur.com/0gj17)

Midonin
2012-11-01, 13:15
The title and the preview hinted at this being a beach episode, and it was... for the first few minutes, and that was all taking place inside the visualizer. Doll joints are really visible when one is in a swimsuit. Hina goes with a school swimsuit, of course, and makes watermelon smashing into a test of great strength and skill. Hina definitely gives off different vibes than Ana, a testament to Minori Chihara's range. Once we get past that, the episode takes on a far more wistful tone.

It becomes a buddy travel movie. Rihito forgets them, but damnit, Ann won that Okinawa trip, they're going to get there. Never mind that Okinawa is a long distance from Tokyo for a normal sized person, for a tiny person it must be a freaking Odyssey. But, thanks to a helpful Shinki voiced by Ryoko Shiraishi and the power of montage, they're able to make it before the episode is up. Like I said, the episode didn't turn out to be what I expected - Shinki fanservice isn't completely bad, but a trek across Japan, on the open road, reminds me of so many movies I watched as a kid that it generates that nostalgic feeling.

I wonder how many episodes we're going to be in Okinawa for. Next episode is set there, but with less beach service and more bomb threats.

Gault
2012-11-03, 08:42
*hasn't seen a Murmeltier yet*

oh well, liking the anime series really, getting me back into Shinkis once again

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Filo_Mukade/25th-02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Filo_Mukade/25th-08.jpg

LoweGear
2012-11-03, 10:28
Was wondering why everything was incorrectly scaled with the Shinkis on the beach (creatures being smaller than they are). Good to see that part of the episode being a Visualizer creation though :heh:

Also, hope Zelnograd gets more screentime in the future. Being a military Shinki is quite awesome. :)

ogon_bat
2012-11-03, 12:25
We now know that:

1) Batteries must be recharged on a daily basis. Those biker shinki's must be munching some amperes from an unguarded socket.

2) Shinki's have free will. They decided on their own to go out of their daily routine to be with their master when they were supposed to stay home and stand guard.

3) Hamster has free roam. Even late at night (it is summer time on the episode, so night time comes late) he seems to roam wherever he pleases.

BTW, I remembered the other day of these new techology to store one bit with only twelve atoms (http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/15/2707744/ibm-creates-one-bit-of-memory-with-just-12-atoms), so human level memory inside the tiny shinki's skull is not even science fiction now!

DXMichael
2012-11-03, 17:40
Gaahhh, I want the master to show more happiness and appreciation towards the Shinki's! Seeing them be all shy and happy when the master does something they like to cute, why can't he do more things like that :p

I was hoping for some big hug scene and a speech from the master at the end of episode 5 but it just ended XD I was slightly disappointed after that :p

Elestia
2012-11-03, 18:34
We now know that:

1) Batteries must be recharged on a daily basis. Those biker shinki's must be munching some amperes from an unguarded socket.

2) Shinki's have free will. They decided on their own to go out of their daily routine to be with their master when they were supposed to stay home and stand guard.

3) Hamster has free roam. Even late at night (it is summer time on the episode, so night time comes late) he seems to roam wherever he pleases.



Don't forget that Ann's hair is detachable too.

LoweGear
2012-11-03, 19:00
Don't forget that Ann's hair is detachable too.

Well, the Arnval series have short hair by default, which can then be customized to whatever you desire.

Wild Goose
2012-11-03, 19:26
*hasn't seen a Murmeltier yet*

oh well, liking the anime series really, getting me back into Shinkis once again

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Filo_Mukade/25th-02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Filo_Mukade/25th-08.jpg

... The only thing cuter than Girls und Panzer is Shinki und Panzer. *dies*

Master_Yoma
2012-11-03, 20:49
It seem that Shinkis get into a lot of trouble if there masters arnt around

GenjiChan
2012-11-03, 21:46
Fan service episode.. BUT I LIKE IT.... A LOT...

MeisterBabylon
2012-11-03, 23:11
Tasty robot slice of life is tasty.

Guido
2012-11-03, 23:39
The comicity in the fourth episode was lighthearted and never inclining to slapstick. The best of all is I got a race episode which quickly devolved into all sorts of crazy happenings: Shinki battles towards the last leg of the race and driving anything that has wheels or turning a car race into a marathon, as long as you are holding a steering wheel; that last one was funny with Kurara.

It was her time to win something for her master and shine, though for poor Ines all her effort was much ado about nothing, because Arn won the lotto and with it that coveted trip to Okinawa much to Ines's chagrin.

Wild Goose
2012-11-04, 02:44
Lol dog grabbing Lene. Also, Zelnograd was win and love and d'awww; the previews made her seem like a shifty character who's out to get our Shinki...and then it turns out that her Master is in the JGSDF, so while he's on duty guarding the nation, she went on a survival excercise and her self-appointed mission of guarding the mountain for her Master.

So win.

Guido
2012-11-07, 00:13
This episode was so much fun, since the girls test their courage and fitness to get to Okinawa due to their master oversleeping and bringing the wrong suitcase.

It got its merits for intertwining from a lighthearted mood to a dramatic tension once the girls were lsot out there in the woods amidst the night and having lost as well their spare batteries; the wolves wouldn't have been pushovers for the girls running in safe energy mode, but thanks to that commando Shinki they were saved.

And, by the next morning, our party resume their trek towards Okinawa, which they accomplished at the end of sunset reuniting with their master; bad thing is that all four of them have just one day left of vacation in Okinawa to enjoy with master.

Scarletknive
2012-11-07, 10:54
... The only thing cuter than Girls und Panzer is Shinki und Panzer. *dies*

But there is 3 problem: Where are the controls, is the size fitting, also, how do they move?

MeisterBabylon
2012-11-08, 04:34
But there is 3 problem: Where are the controls, is the size fitting, also, how do they move?

Screw logic it has moe. :heh:

Kreceir
2012-11-08, 06:51
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Hey~ Master~

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Midonin
2012-11-08, 13:26
The characters acknowledged it before it happened, but the show took a hard right into a major tonal shift. Sort of. There were still plenty of jokes and banter between Aines and Lene and Clara, even with the bomb threat turning most of the episode into an action flick at small scale. Also one of the first episodes to really toy with the idea that Shinki are mass-produced action figures, introducing several Anns who are working for a terrorist. And Kana Asumi voices all of them. She had a lot more work to do this week, and did a fine job with it. Everyone survived, but there was some genuine tension here. The idea of Ann questioning what she wants to be, compared to the flight attendants, and realizing how much a Master can shape her future, was a nice theme for the episode.

The scares next week look a little less real than a bomb threat, focusing more on spooky tales.

blitz1/2
2012-11-08, 15:17
Yea, 3 enemy Arnvals this time, I think one of them has the custom paint black equipment, can't tell from dark lighting.

Fubuki next ep?

Arctic_Kitsune
2012-11-09, 01:48
I have only seen these anime, where I do not remember hearing the word "charging" even once, maybe their batteries can go on for a year (the dream of any laptop user)? Because otherwise they would have to steal energy from somewhere O_o;

1) Charging on their cradles (look for episode 2 with Hina looking at the moon).
2) Sleep-mode (Look for the Okinawa trip with Shinkis going into "Sleep mode". Even the first episode had Shinkis in sleep mode within the moving box."
3) Zelnograd assisting Ann, Hina, Aines, and Lene during their trip to Okinawa. I'm betting she gave them supplies to charge, even a cradle at Zelno's outpost.
4) Episode 06 - The trip back had the Shinkis struggling to go into sleep-mode during and after take-off.

As for Ach, Yda, Maochao, and Howling? Community charging center I'd bet. If Zelno could assist the 4 girls then they would help Ach and Yda.


It got its merits for intertwining from a lighthearted mood to a dramatic tension once the girls were lsot out there in the woods amidst the night and having lost as well their spare batteries; the wolves wouldn't have been pushovers for the girls running in safe energy mode, but thanks to that commando Shinki they were saved.


Zelnograd - Type Firearm :p

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Edit:

-> Episode 06 rambling
The whole episode 06 bomb on a plane was quite a touch plot to add, no? American viewers effected by 9/11 could get all picky. Either way, it was nice and entertaining. Nice tense serious moments nicely mixed with light comedy. Seeing all those Arnvals made me surprised. Thought I saw Zelno at the end but it ended up being a whole security squad of Arnvals in military/swat gear. Glad the bomb turned into a visualizer hologram item :). Did you guys spot the shinki cameos in the news section? Shinkis in the workplace and in public? Grapprap (Type Builder) helping with construction; Bright Feather (Type Nurse, and multiple of them) nursing their patient back to health; Merienda (Type Spoon) serving Sundae to her customers; and Schmetterling (Type Butterfly) singing a (Miku type) concert to the public.


Fubuki and folklore tales for episode episode 07! Can't wait. Looks all Halloween! Should of been on Halloween but eh, still good...Only a few days off making it good for post-Halloween.

Benigmatica
2012-11-09, 03:49
The characters acknowledged it before it happened, but the show took a hard right into a major tonal shift. Sort of. There were still plenty of jokes and banter between Aines and Lene and Clara, even with the bomb threat turning most of the episode into an action flick at small scale. Also one of the first episodes to really toy with the idea that Shinki are mass-produced action figures, introducing several Anns who are working for a terrorist. And Kana Asumi voices all of them. She had a lot more work to do this week, and did a fine job with it. Everyone survived, but there was some genuine tension here. The idea of Ann questioning what she wants to be, compared to the flight attendants, and realizing how much a Master can shape her future, was a nice theme for the episode.

The scares next week look a little less real than a bomb threat, focusing more on spooky tales.

Agreed, too many Kana Asumi on this episode! Still, I wonder if this series can inject all of the Shinkis in one show?

ogon_bat
2012-11-09, 14:19
Episode 6 - Continuity error galore!

1. Our merry shinki went into a suitcase that included the mermaid attachment that was in the suitcase that was LEFT BEHIND in the prior episode.

2. Unlike railroad trains, airplanes have no direct connection to the cargo bay, only the cockpit/passenger section have the correct amount of oxygen, air pressure and temperature (http://www.wisegeek.com/why-do-animal-welfare-organizations-recommend-that-pets-fly-in-the-cabin-of-a-plane-only.htm). So there is no way for Hina to have gone into the passenger section so easily.

3. when Hina kicks the terrorist shinki ass it should have ended outside the plane (there is no such think as a waste tank, all waste "burns on re-entry" so to speak) but at the end of the episode there are three arnval shinkis besides Ann.

It was very interesting to see that there are professional shinki's, with all the free time they could learn a trade and earn money, heck, maybe they only need to download into their brains a program and zap, they have the basic skills for having employment as nurses, flight attendants or even high school teachers! What a role reversal if the master gets unemployed but his shinki win enough money to get by (of course I doubt we will see that plot in this series since their master is still studying).

One detail that wasn't clear to me, does the terrorist shinki indeed had a terrorist master but were fooled into believing they had a real bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlE7CKVpLXg) or were they just programmed to believe to have been ordered by their (inexistant) master to bomb the plane?

Guppy
2012-11-09, 16:48
One detail that wasn't clear to me, does the terrorist shinki indeed had a terrorist master but were fooled into believing they had a real bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlE7CKVpLXg) or were they just programmed to believe to have been ordered by their (inexistant) master to bomb the plane?They seem to have been members of the Arnval security unit at the end of the episode, detailed to play the adversary role in a training exercise for the squad. Somehow they boarded the wrong plane without realising it, and also didn't notice anything was wrong when they ran up against a stack of models other than Arnvals.

Snuffle
2012-11-09, 17:03
So these Shinki's are heavy enough to fling a knife across the room, heavy enough to squash peas, heavy enough to not get flown off a moving train... But are somehow light enough for a balloon to carry them and light enough to sit on a twinkie???? :heh:

Do they have some kinda weight adjustment mechanism? :p

Wild Goose
2012-11-09, 22:51
They seem to have been members of the Arnval security unit at the end of the episode, detailed to play the adversary role in a training exercise for the squad. Somehow they boarded the wrong plane without realising it, and also didn't notice anything was wrong when they ran up against a stack of models other than Arnvals.

... a moe Red Cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cell).

Is there nothing Shinki cannot do! @__@ :heh:

Snuffle
2012-11-09, 23:06
... a moe Red Cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cell).

Is there nothing Shinki cannot do! @__@ :heh:

Bleed and consume solids (food).
I was going to say anything x-rated but... they are capable of feeling aroused, only thing missing is the parts. That can be remedied by porting their software into a life size body (like Hand Maid May), and viola, you have yourself a Shinki girlfriend. :p

Wild Goose
2012-11-09, 23:20
Bleed and consume solids (food).
I was going to say anything x-rated but... they are capable of feeling aroused, only thing missing is the parts. That can be remedied by porting their software into a life size body (like Hand Maid May), and viola, you have yourself a Shinki girlfriend. :p

The last time they tried to do that, said life-sized Shinki went beserk and nearly blew up a top secret R&D site :heh:

Also daaaw Master and Ann; managing to pick out Ann with no hesitation from amongst the all those Arnvals.

"I dunno. But I guess that's what makes a master, right?"

Ann flag tripped.

Snuffle
2012-11-09, 23:24
The last time they tried to do that, said life-sized Shinki went beserk and nearly blew up a top secret R&D site :heh:


Well, that one was built as a weapon (if you're referring to what I think you're referring to). If a life-sized one was built for everyday life, it would be different. :)

novalysis
2012-11-10, 01:19
Actually, those "Job" Shinkis, if they are going to cause Mass Unemployment seems to imply that the world of Busou Shinki are heading for a Matrix Style or Quarian style worse case scenario, UNLESS their system of society changes.

Else, those with the Capital to buy and maintain the Shinkis are going to be the only ones with incomes, along with the few who can work with Shinkis directly. Then again, perhaps THERE is a huge Shinki Market emerging, and producing Shinkis are infinitely preferable to the Japanese, compared to importing Immigrants. Shinkis do not replace humans, they supplement an aging human workforce. Which means the doomsday scenario will not materialize, but we'll rather see an expansion of the economy. Then again, education too must then evolve to take into account a Shinki based economy where A.Is can upload information into their minds and likely learn far faster than any human.

ogon_bat
2012-11-10, 01:35
Well, that one was built as a weapon (if you're referring to what I think you're referring to). If a life-sized one was built for everyday life, it would be different. :)

Have you never heard the song "Sex as a weapon"? We would be at the mercy of our shinki overlords >_<

Kaihan
2012-11-10, 01:45
Even though the episode meant to be a serious episode, I laughed a few times such as evil Arnval mimicking and pro wresting Hina. :heh: In the end it turned out to be security training, pretty good episode.

Guess I should stop hoping the show would get darker like the OVA and just enjoy the show as it is.

LoweGear
2012-11-10, 03:10
The fact that Shinkis are confirmed to have actual jobs is an exciting prospect, and shows just how far this particular setting has accepted AI's into daily life.

But this episode... TOO MANY ARNVALS :eek:

Scarletknive
2012-11-10, 03:31
The fact that Shinkis are confirmed to have actual jobs is an exciting prospect, and shows just how far this particular setting has accepted AI's into daily life.

But this episode... TOO MANY ARNVALS :eek:

And 1 of the "enemy" Arnvals seems to be fighting at 3 times the poten- UWAH!! *Is shot*

Wild Goose
2012-11-10, 04:04
The fact that Shinkis are confirmed to have actual jobs is an exciting prospect, and shows just how far this particular setting has accepted AI's into daily life.

But this episode... TOO MANY ARNVALS :eek:

Imagine the Quarians freaking out. And of course:

Xen: "Studying one of these AI dolls is no different from surgery on a childhood toy."

Master Shepard: "My Shinki is not for research. Shinki are our friends, not our research subjects."

Xen: "But the potential benefits-"

Master Shepherd: "Are off the table."

Flashing Paragon AND Renegade interrupts.

Also there is no such thing as too many Arnvals! There's only too many Arnvals to carry! Also dat was the cutest security team with MP5s ever. Though I suppose Kampfgruppe Ankou has them beat. :heh:

And again, the bond between Shinki and Master isn't one way.

He stands in front of her. Surrounded by her sisters, her counterparts, they all look identical. They are all Arnval-type Shinkis, afterall.

But only one of them is Ann.

Rihito doesn't hesitate or think twice. His hand reaches out, and grasps Ann, and he lifts her to his shoulder.

He doesn't know which one is her. Using his head, he can't tell the difference. He can't explain just how or why he choose that specific Arnval. But his heart knows: this is his Shinki.

The bond between Shinki and Master is not one way.

LoweGear
2012-11-10, 04:16
Imagine the Quarians freaking out. And of course:

Xen: "Studying one of these AI dolls is no different from surgery on a childhood toy."

Master Shepard: "My Shinki is not for research. Shinki are our friends, not our research subjects."

Xen: "But the potential benefits-"

Master Shepherd: "Are off the table."

Flashing Paragon AND Renegade interrupts.


This could be the ideal foundation for a Mass Effect x Busou Shinki crossover :eek: Reminds me of that AU fic there it was the Geth that made first contact with humans before the latter discovered the Mass Relays.

So... the premise is the same as canon, except for the fact that Humans had already lived with Shinkis for centuries now, and take AI's for granted... which causes all sorts of problems when they encounter the Council, and especially the Quarians... :uhoh:


Also there is no such thing as too many Arnvals! There's only too many Arnvals to carry! Also dat was the cutest security team with MP5s ever. Though I suppose Kampfgruppe Ankou has them beat. :heh:

And again, the bond between Shinki and Master isn't one way.

He stands in front of her. Surrounded by her sisters, her counterparts, they all look identical. They are all Arnval-type Shinkis, afterall.

But only one of them is Ann.

Rihito doesn't hesitate or think twice. His hand reaches out, and grasps Ann, and he lifts her to his shoulder.

He doesn't know which one is her. Using his head, he can't tell the difference. He can't explain just how or why he choose that specific Arnval. But his heart knows: this is his Shinki.

The bond between Shinki and Master is not one way.

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Scarletknive
2012-11-10, 04:24
Also there is no such thing as too many Arnvals! There's only too many Arnvals to carry! Also dat was the cutest security team with MP5s ever. Though I suppose Kampfgruppe Ankou has them beat. :heh:

And again, the bond between Shinki and Master isn't one way.

He stands in front of her. Surrounded by her sisters, her counterparts, they all look identical. They are all Arnval-type Shinkis, afterall.

But only one of them is Ann.

Rihito doesn't hesitate or think twice. His hand reaches out, and grasps Ann, and he lifts her to his shoulder.

He doesn't know which one is her. Using his head, he can't tell the difference. He can't explain just how or why he choose that specific Arnval. But his heart knows: this is his Shinki.

The bond between Shinki and Master is not one way.

This! Have a cookie...

This could be the ideal foundation for a Mass Effect x Busou Shinki crossover :eek: Reminds me of that AU fic there it was the Geth that made first contact with humans before the latter discovered the Mass Relays.



I wouldn't mind having that crossover... How about this?

Ann will win in a fight where a Shinki uses her funnel attack, and this is the reason.

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