View Full Version : Origins of Kirito and Asuna's Romance: Theories and Discussion
relentlessflame
2013-02-02, 04:45
I received a request for a discussion topic, and I think it could result in some interesting discussion.
One of the main plot threads in the SAO Aincrad arc was the development of the romance between Kazuto (Kirito) and Asuna. But it can be a bit murky to trace the exact origins of their feelings for each other and how those developed. So, for consideration, these two questions:
1. When do you think Asuna fell in love with Kirito? Please explain and justify your answer.
2. When did Kirito fall in love with Asuna? Please explain and justify your answer.
You may also use this thread to discuss other topics related to the development of their romance in the story, but please do not discuss matters from beyond the animated content outside of clearly-marked spoiler tags. (If you don't know what I mean by "clearly-marked", please read this first.)
Also, should be obvious, but this thread should not be used for any converse shipping purposes, or for anything that is better covered by another thread in this sub-forum.
NoemiChan
2013-02-02, 06:56
You may also use this thread to discuss other topics related to the development of their romance in the story, but please do not discuss matters from beyond the animated content outside of clearly-marked spoiler tags. (If you don't know what I mean by "clearly-marked", please read this first.)
So this is Anime Only? Good, that would be fair.
belatkuro
2013-02-02, 07:47
1. Episode 5. More specifically the time she fell asleep beneath the tree. She explained this already to the fisherman, Nishida, in episode 13 so I'm just gonna paraphrase/repeat it a bit.
She was hard-pressed to clear the game and would use any means to clear floors, as seen in the first part of episode 5. Then she saw Kirito laying back, sleeping well, and enjoying life in the game later in the same episode. She saw someone treating the game as another reality and living well in the present. She wanted to know more about him after the whole mystery incident. Eventually, she fell for him, as hinted in episode 7 with her reaction to seeing Kirito after the Liz quest, meeting him up in Agil's shop in episode 8 and so on.
2. Episode 9, after the boss fight with Gleameyes. Asuna was willing to take a break from KoB and party with him. And she showed concern for his reckless action in the boss fight that touched Kirito. The short flashbacks of Asuna kind of said that he's warming up to her.
He even confessed to her about the Black Cats guild in episode 10 as a sign of trust. He expected her to be disgusted with him for being the only survivor. But she stayed on his side and even said that she'll protect her. He refrained from embracing her though but he did raise his hand up, indicating that he wanted to return the action.
The final push would probably be the Kuradeel attempted murder in the same episode. He wanted someone to be with him after that incident. You could call it a spur of the moment or a suspension bridge effect though but he fell for her there and even declared that he'll protect her.
I'm not good at arguments though so pick it apart if you'd like.
orpheus2
2013-02-02, 08:07
This will end well...:heh:
1. Episode 5. More specifically the time she fell asleep beneath the tree. She explained this already to the fisherman, Nishida, in episode 13 so I'm just gonna paraphrase/repeat it a bit.
She was hard-pressed to clear the game and would use any means to clear floors, as seen in the first part of episode 5. Then she saw Kirito laying back, sleeping well, and enjoying life in the game later in the same episode. She saw someone treating the game as another reality and living well in the present. She wanted to know more about him after the whole mystery incident. Eventually, she fell for him, as hinted in episode 7 with her reaction to seeing Kirito after the Liz quest, meeting him up in Agil's shop in episode 8 and so on.
2. Episode 9, after the boss fight with Gleameyes. Asuna was willing to take a break from KoB and party with him. And she showed concern for his reckless action in the boss fight that touched Kirito. The short flashbacks of Asuna kind of said that he's warming up to her.
He even confessed to her about the Black Cats guild in episode 10 as a sign of trust. He expected her to be disgusted with him for being the only survivor. But she stayed on his side and even said that she'll protect her. He refrained from embracing her though but he did raise his hand up, indicating that he wanted to return the action.
The final push would probably be the Kuradeel attempted murder in the same episode. He wanted someone to be with him after that incident. You could call it a spur of the moment or a suspension bridge effect though but he fell for her there and even declared that he'll protect her.
I'm not good at arguments though so pick it apart if you'd like.
Adding to your point. From the end of episode 2 to the beginning of episode 5, something must have happened to sour his his initial amicable relationship with Asuna. It may be a combination of Asuna's zealous pursuance to completing the game and Kirito's loner status in the aftermath of episode 3. This is anime based speculation.
Haiprbim
2013-02-02, 12:33
I personally think that the feelings were going on slowly.
The first "spark" was the time when they were eating bread and Kirito gave Asuna something to put on top of it. No one actually had any feelings to be that close as they were in the end at that time, nor thought of that.
The second impression was the look on Kirito's face when Asuna's hood fell down, showing her being a girl.
After the 1st boss was beaten, Asuna went after Kirito to the top of the stairs, and she must have felt something because she took what he said to her seriously. She took on the front-lines extremely well with no grace, as we can she later how she wanted to beat the boss by sacrificing the NPCs of a town, saying how they can respawn on which Kirito disagreed.
After that, there were many moments that brought the two closer and closer.
However, there was a huge moment under the tree, for Asuna, at least.
The most beautiful weather in the most beautiful time of the year, as described by Kirito.
As we can see later, that is what made Asuna loosen up, and she was really thankful for Kirito to show her what life can be like.
They were getting closer and closer even more, and there were a lot of dramatic moments as saving each others' life or asking for each other to get married.
Anyhow, the steps went on perfectly and they ended together as two people in mad love.
Really nice, Romance of SAO is on it's maximum.
thank you very much for taking my thread request relentlessflame im sorry for the long email and making you sit through my weird conclusions befor the thread was even made but these are my thoughts on the matter im popping them on spoiler as they do have refrences from the manga and light novel
1. When do you think Asuna fell in love with Kirito?
looking at the way there relationship progresses it seems that she realised her feelings along time before Kirito, if we are to take literal meaning from the Light novel and the anime it could be deduced that she fell in love with Kirito in episode 5 "A crime within the walls" when Kirito tell's Asun about the weather setting whilst napping below the tree. we can asume this by what Asuna tells Nishida "that in the beginning, she would cry due to the fact she was trapped in a death game and she would take that sadness and turn it into determination thus allowing her to level up extremely quickly. She explained to them that it was Kirito who taught her that there are people trying to experience this world for what it is and that he is the reason why she is alive and looks forward to tomorrow." taken from the sword art online wiki but also seen in the manga, light novel and the anime.
2.When did Kirito fall in love with Asuna?
I find this one a little more difficult to place as when you look at the anime light novel and manga it isnt really clear at all maybe this is because im female and find it easy to see Asuna's feelings but i find Kirito alot harder to read, we know that Kirito respects Asuna alot for her skill and beauty but in all of the adaptations (manga/lightnovel/anime) plus interveiws with the aurthor we know that his first love in sword art online was acctually Sachi the girl from the moonlight black cats who died when stuck in a no-crystal trap, he blamed himself for her death and in the anime in episode 9 "The blue-eyed demon" when coming around from fainting after defeating the boss at first it apears that he believes Asuna to be Sachi for a second befor realising who it acctually is, yet in the Light novel this doesnt happen though Kirito is very confused by Asuna suddenly hugging him as he wakes up thought it is seen to be that other people can understand Asuna's feelings towards Kirito by the way Klein reacts to her behaviour:
Klein nodded.
“Online gamers get jealous easily. I wouldn't since I'm an understanding guy, but there sure are plenty of envious people. Not to mention...”
Klein suddenly stopped talking and looked at Asuna, who was still tightly hugging me, and smiled meaningfully.
it also seems that as Kirito blames himself for the death of the Black cats guild members especially his first love Sachi, that he doesnt believe that he deserves to be able to feel for another again or to have someone feel for him in this way, yet he faught for her against Kuradeel befor this came to pass so is he just trying to deny his own feelings or does he not truely understand them until she tells him that she wishes to take leave from her guild to be with him which is what we are lead to believe in the light novel.
“T-Take a break...? Why?”
“...I said that I was going to party with you for a while... Did you forget already?”
As soon as I heard that...
Somewhere deep within my heart, a feeling that could only be described as a strong longing reached out. It surprised even me.
I —solo player Kirito— was a person who had abandoned every other player in order to keep myself alive in this world. I was the coward who had turned his back on his only friend and ran away two years ago, on the day that all of this had started.
A person like me, who didn't even have any right to wish for a comrade—let alone something more than that.
I had already realized this in a painful and unforgettable way. I had sworn never to wish again, never to yearn for the care of others.
But—
My left hand, which had turned rigid, didn't want to let go of Asuna's shoulder. I just couldn't pull myself away from the virtual warmth of her body.
I buried this huge contradicting conflict inside me with an inexplicable emotion, and then answered with a short reply.
“...Okay.”
After hearing my response, Asuna's head nodded slightly on my shoulder
yet this just states that it was at this point he realised his feelings but does anyone else think that there was another point in time when his feelings actually began?
Kokukirin
2013-02-03, 02:24
The sleeping under the tree scene is definitely the breakthrough between the two. Before that Asuna's only goal is to beat the game in the shortest time possible. She puts every effort into leveling up and directing boss raids, sleeping as little as she can. Kirito's appearance completely changes her view of the SAO world and allows her to finally get some joy out of it. So quite naturally, I think, she develops some affection towards Kirito. She starts actively seeking his company. And as they spend more time together, they grow closer and closer.
As for Kirito, I think he is the more passive one in the relationship. He probably does not have a breakthrough point like Asuna, but just lets their relationship develop as they go out together in one event after another.
NoemiChan
2013-02-03, 04:20
> The First Meeting of Kirito and Asuna. The bread and the jam.
> Asuna reveals herself that she is a girl.
> The "marriage" argument in the restaurant during the "Murder Arc"
> The last scene during the "Murder Arc", before Asuna adds Kirito as a "friend". You can feel the mood.
> The second half of Gleam Eyes Arc, Asuna hugs the nearly killed Kirito. Asuna "party's" with Kirito and have him join her guild.
> The Treachery of Kuradeel. Kirito swears to be with Asuna and gets married.
Chaos2Frozen
2013-02-03, 04:24
What!? This specific topic warrant it's own thread :eyespin: !? Too much sap would make the walls here all mushy!
relentlessflame
2013-02-03, 06:09
What!? This specific topic warrant it's own thread :eyespin: !? Too much sap would make the walls here all mushy!
I've no problem with a specific topic getting its own thread as long as it seems like it might generate interesting discussion. At this point, the amount of topics to discuss has gone down anyway, until the next anime season is announced.
rdtx2013
2014-09-03, 16:45
Sorry i'm about a year late, just watched this series :)
1. When do you think Asuna fell in love with Kirito? Please explain and justify your answer.
I wouldn't say the field moment as the others.. that moment really allowed her to "live life"
I would say during the boss fight of the first floor... and really forced the issue when she Tsundere'd him when she invite him over for dinner after he joined the guild
2. When did Kirito fall in love with Asuna? Please explain and justify your answer.
When she saved him from the Poison and death.. he literally said he has given his life to her.
Okay I'm gonna go slightly off topic here. It's generally accepted that the two did the nasty numerous times during SAO and in ALO now as well. So how does that work anyway? Do they get to have all the fun without any of the consequences?
Rising Dragon
2014-09-03, 22:20
Okay I'm gonna go slightly off topic here. It's generally accepted that the two did the nasty numerous times during SAO and in ALO now as well. So how does that work anyway? Do they get to have all the fun without any of the consequences?
Presumably. It's not like Asuna could've gotten pregnant in the game, and I find it unlikely that there's any consequences like STDs in game... and even if there was, Kirito and Asuna seemed to be exclusive to one another, so that really wouldn't be an issue for them.
The only real consequences would be how it affects their relationship and their mental states, and there's nothing the game could do about that. But the physical dangers likely aren't present.
Darthtabby
2014-09-04, 00:18
Does ALO even have that feature enabled?
One complication with the origins of Kirito and Asuna's romance is that newer material like the Anime and the Progressive stories/manga retcons them as having met earlier in the game. Though I guess having them interact a lot more early on doesn't necessarily mean they were falling for each prior to the events that the novel indicates made them fall for each other. Though I wouldn't necessarily mind a retcon in that regard if it did a better job of leading up to them getting together.
Psyco Diver
2014-09-04, 00:24
Presumably. It's not like Asuna could've gotten pregnant in the game, and I find it unlikely that there's any consequences like STDs in game... and even if there was, Kirito and Asuna seemed to be exclusive to one another, so that really wouldn't be an issue for them.
The only real consequences would be how it affects their relationship and their mental states, and there's nothing the game could do about that. But the physical dangers likely aren't present.
This every step of the way
That said I would say the first time Kirito realized he had feelings for her was when she undressed infront of him in her house, me being a male understands his denseness to the opposite sex feelings and takes something like that for men to realize what their acctually feeling. Also that scene still makes me laugh to this day
This every step of the way
That said I would say the first time Kirito realized he had feelings for her was when she undressed infront of him in her house, me being a male understands his denseness to the opposite sex feelings and takes something like that for men to realize what their acctually feeling. Also that scene still makes me laugh to this day
Well at that point he knew he loved her and she loved him. It's just that he didn't knew Asuna would be that eager to consummate so fast.
A better question would be if he actually cockblocked himself that night. I mean Asuna was throwing herself at him so I would be pretty mad if they didn't do it since that's just not cool.
dotdotslash
2014-09-04, 06:25
I guess a bit OT, but from the anime presumably ALO does have 'that feature', although it could be imagined that enabling it requites GM override. At least that's the implication of Sugou's threats at the end. If not then what was he going to do, continue to lick Asuna's tears until he broke her and then repeat the same IRL?
The LN version of Kirito's and Asuna's relationship is a bit too compressed for my taste, it works but could be improved with some fuller details (which the side stories retcon on). IMO, the other problem is that the relationship was really part of the single arc for Aincard and while I find it nice that the author has kept them together, it's also a bit of a pain because given the origins of their romance there would seem to be a lot of interesting ways to explore its implications further which are largely ignored in favor of going to a semi-harem approach (albeit with none of the other girls having a chance).
rdtx2013
2014-09-04, 10:44
Okay I'm gonna go slightly off topic here. It's generally accepted that the two did the nasty numerous times during SAO and in ALO now as well. So how does that work anyway? Do they get to have all the fun without any of the consequences?
i believe they "turned off" the Ethics part of the game... at least that i what i dug up searching around...
Gravitas Free Zone
2014-09-04, 11:20
I'm surprised there weren't giant sex parties going on in Aincrad, given that it was fully-immersive VR and these people didn't know if they'd ever get out of there alive.
(Then again, maybe there were, it's just that nobody talked about Fight Club.)
Psyco Diver
2014-09-04, 17:27
I wonder if you had to be married to do the dirty deed, I remember Asuna mentioning people getting married for no reason other than to share loot
Rising Dragon
2014-09-04, 18:08
I wonder if you had to be married to do the dirty deed, I remember Asuna mentioning people getting married for no reason other than to share loot
Given that they had sex before they got married in-game? No.
Psyco Diver
2014-09-04, 21:01
Given that they had sex before they got married in-game? No.
True, when did they get married, I know it was shortly implied after that, but its been a while since I've watched that season?
It really makes you wonder why they even bought two beds.
Rising Dragon
2014-09-04, 22:56
So they can alternate on which bed to use each night, of course!
...
In all likelihood, they came with the house.
So they can alternate on which bed to use each night, of course!
...
In all likelihood, they came with the house.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did it everywhere except for the beds.
Rising Dragon
2014-09-04, 23:28
I wouldn't be surprised if they did it everywhere except for the beds.
True newlyweds spare no part of the house. ¬.¬
Gravitas Free Zone
2014-09-05, 00:03
Ah, this discussion has gone to those places. ;)
As an aside, there are some articles out there about couples sleeping better (in the strict sense of actually sleeping) when they're in separate beds, vs. one bed where one of them has incredibly cold feet or tends to spread out all over the mattress or has some other incompatible personal habit.
This of course has little to no bearing on a virtual environment where those little details... actually, I wonder how precise the NerveGear could be about detecting variations in body temperature such that if you touched another player they'd feel warmer or colder than you.
Rising Dragon
2014-09-05, 00:11
Probably fairly realistic. Amuspheres don't have the same level of immersion as NerveGears do as part of the preventive measures on them, right? Between that and Kayaba striving to make a world first, game second, that kind of level of realism wouldn't be terribly surprising.
Ah, this discussion has gone to those places. ;)
As an aside, there are some articles out there about couples sleeping better (in the strict sense of actually sleeping) when they're in separate beds, vs. one bed where one of them has incredibly cold feet or tends to spread out all over the mattress or has some other incompatible personal habit.
This of course has little to no bearing on a virtual environment where those little details... actually, I wonder how precise the NerveGear could be about detecting variations in body temperature such that if you touched another player they'd feel warmer or colder than you.
This thread was dead quiet before this topic got raised.
Goes to show we all like to talk about the sex life of characters. Probably because it's so rare that we have this chance. I mean how many shows out there have characters getting married as early as episode 10 out of 25?
True, when did they get married, I know it was shortly implied after that, but its been a while since I've watched that season?
In one of the side-stories, "The Day Before", they get married right before they buy the log house. (or was it right after? Either way, they get married right outside that house)
In one of the side-stories, "The Day Before", they get married right before they buy the log house. (or was it right after? Either way, they get married right outside that house)
There was never a ceremony or anything right? They just went into the menu and got married with a click of a button?
Psyco Diver
2014-09-05, 11:47
This thread was dead quiet before this topic got raised.
Goes to show we all like to talk about the sex life of characters. Probably because it's so rare that we have this chance. I mean how many shows out there have characters getting married as early as episode 10 out of 25?
Sex, religion and politics are the only three topics I know that get people talking more than they normal would and even get lurkers into the conversion.
I agree the subject rarely sees much attention outside of comic relief. The only series that was so blatant about it was Gundam SEED with Kira and Flay, I'm sure there were more I'm just drawing a blank. It is a rarity for sure though
Hemabody
2014-09-06, 21:28
True newlyweds spare no part of the house. ¬.¬
I think Kirito did the same with Sinon in the cave of the new episode XD
Does ALO even have that feature enabled?
It seems to exist given Sugou's threats, but it's unlikely to be enabled by the current management given that minors play ALO.
Well at that point he knew he loved her and she loved him. It's just that he didn't knew Asuna would be that eager to consummate so fast.
A better question would be if he actually cockblocked himself that night. I mean Asuna was throwing herself at him so I would be pretty mad if they didn't do it since that's just not cool.
He did not cockblock himself that night. The anime simply censored things a bit by having Kirito outside the covers instead of snuggling under them with Asuna.
Rising Dragon
2014-09-06, 21:50
Plus, y'know, Asuna was pretty obviously naked underneath the sheets.
I actually read 16.5-16.85 during the last couple of days and holy shit that stuff was saucy. You can imagine why Kirito was so desperate to save Asuna in ALO. He was desperate for that poontan after two months.
dotdotslash
2014-09-07, 08:29
I have this sneaking suspicion that somehow the new management of ALO "forgot" to turn the sex feature off.
After people dropped a bunch of hints I looked up chapter 16.5, and at least in the english translation I found, I have to say the writing was pretty embarrassingly bad.
I seem to recall that in the LN kissing is described as being pretty much one pre-programmed action, which does kind of beg the question of how much detail was put into the rest of the more advanced options.
I have this sneaking suspicion that somehow the new management of ALO "forgot" to turn the sex feature off.
After people dropped a bunch of hints I looked up chapter 16.5, and at least in the english translation I found, I have to say the writing was pretty embarrassingly bad.
I seem to recall that in the LN kissing is described as being pretty much one pre-programmed action, which does kind of beg the question of how much detail was put into the rest of the more advanced options.
Writing? That's like saying you watch the entirety of a porn movie and caring what the story is about.
Gravitas Free Zone
2014-09-07, 12:33
But even the porn part is pretty bad. This is where, at least as it is translated, the infamous "glopping" comes from, after all.
So I've been doing some research and it seems people mostly think really less of 16.5. They find it comical and just plain bad. Am I the only one who thinks the chapter was good and in-character? I mean we are talking about two virgins who until were middle schoolers when the game started and have been in mortal danger ever since. Of course they are gonna be awkward in bed and say weird shit. Honestly kirito's description is exactly how i imagine a 16 year old describe would his first time.
dotdotslash
2014-09-08, 08:07
The first bit, where they are being a bit awkward isn't too bad. Once the actual sex starts, then yeah I found it a bit over the top; especially the notorious 'glug glug' ending. Also, to me it didn't really fit how the rest of the physics / physical interactions were described (not that there was a huge amount of detail to those).
Personally, I'd prefer to trade that story for a sentence or two in "morning dew girl", no need to be graphic, but something more than "they had been falling asleep everynight cuddling in each others arms".
The first bit, where they are being a bit awkward isn't too bad. Once the actual sex starts, then yeah I found it a bit over the top; especially the notorious 'glug glug' ending. Also, to me it didn't really fit how the rest of the physics / physical interactions were described (not that there was a huge amount of detail to those).
Personally, I'd prefer to trade that story for a sentence or two in "morning dew girl", no need to be graphic, but something more than "they had been falling asleep everynight cuddling in each others arms".
To hell with that, I want the two of them to have the most violent awe-inspiring sex the written word have ever witness. These two kids are too vanilla gotta start to learn how to spice things up at the rate they are going. (For those who don't know they go it a couple more times in 16.6 onwards.)
Tusjecht
2014-09-14, 23:39
The point of 16.5, perhaps, is that that's how we imagine sex to be like, and 16.6 to illustrate, literally, how we imagine it to look like.
And then you finally get laid and try to do the same, and that's when you realize that among other things, Kirito has a humongous STR stat... :heh:
dotdotslash
2014-09-15, 06:22
I doubt anything so well thought out. 16.5 seems to be 100% hard core fan serivce. The other 16.x that I've seen just recently found the translations for, also seem to be just about all fan service too (in that they don't really add anything to the existing plot), although more in line with other characterization.
(in that they don't really add anything to the existing plot),.
Of course not. The 16.x series (excluding 16.5) were just little stories Kawahara wrote to sell at COMITIA, and just for fun.
Of course not. The 16.x series (excluding 16.5) were just little stories Kawahara wrote to sell at COMITIA, and just for fun.
Are you sure? Are you sure Kirito isn't a sex god and he fucks Asuna so much she craves his d everyday? I thought so.
Tusjecht
2014-09-16, 11:07
Are you sure? Are you sure Kirito isn't a sex god and he fucks Asuna so much she craves his d everyday? I thought so.
She'd be tsundere about her addicktion if the 16.x series are anything to go by.
More seriously speaking, if you're willing to write *that* many side stories celebrating one pairing, then... It's a chicken and egg question, really, to decide if it's Kawahara's fantasy or fan shipping. But i'm inclined to point out that throughout every single arc, Asuna is always described as the most beautiful. The prescence of competing haremettes seemed to merely serve to enhance her beauty in contrast to theirs.
Psyco Diver
2014-09-16, 18:41
The prescence of competing haremettes seemed to merely serve to enhance her beauty in contrast to theirs.
Kinda like how a chick will bring ugly friends with to the club, to make herself look hotter lmao
dotdotslash
2014-09-16, 18:41
The later 16.x stories (which I enjoyed) seemed to be to be less directly tsundere and more about the shyness of two people who have just jumped into their first sexual relationship.
It seems pretty clear, based on what I've read so far (obviously incomplete) Kawahara is quite interested in the relationship (most likely partially as a form of wish fulfillment) but seems to have missed or decided to not follow any of the logical paths that would allow it to continue hence the 16.x stories have so far been set in the original SAO. I mean you have two people who have been through hell and all you can think of is to keep them together "off screen"? I guess that's why breaking up couples between major story lines has become the cliche that it is.
So after peeking into this thread and seeing all the talk about this "16.5" chapter, I went and read it. Well. How to say this.. it's certainly not good. "Comical" is a fitting way to describe it. "Embarassingly bad" also works.
Rather than Kirito and Asuna being virgins, I wondered the entire time whether Kawahara was :heh:
The piece reads like a sexual encounter, as imagined by a 14-year old virgin posting on a fanfiction site but certainly not a believably written piece by any stretch. Got a good laugh out of it though, and that's worth something.
Though I have to say, it left me somewhat creeped out. As if Kawahara wrote that for himself, based on his personal fantasies or something. Kind of like Meyer...
I was just on the askreddit thread about people who stayed virgins until marriage and boy do their experience differ from 16.5. But hey what can I say Kirito is a sex god.
Baldurkai
2014-09-19, 09:39
Lol after reading this, all I have to say is wdf did I just see....
After a while of boring reading I found myself finding it funny to replace some of his words , like Penis to Sword. which would make all this ahh hhaaa ha ha ahh aah haa hahaha ahaa aah ahhhh ahhh hhaa ooh hooo oh hoooh hohhho Bs make sense.
I feel bad for people who read this. Must have ruined their KiritoxAsuna fantasies.
Tusjecht
2014-09-19, 10:24
Actually, I think 16.5 was the spark for lots of Asuna & Kirito fantasies... I remember when 16.5 overtook 69 as the most popular sexual reference.
^ If that's not a joking reference, then that's awkward.
Psyco Diver
2014-09-19, 23:14
Out of curiousity I decided to check out 16.5 and like so many threads on 4chan and Reddit I wish I never looked lmao. It reminds me of this cheap porno knock offs like Forest Hump and Star Whores
Out of curiousity I decided to check out 16.5 and like so many threads on 4chan and Reddit I wish I never looked lmao. It reminds me of this cheap porno knock offs like Forest Hump and Star Whores
Except it actually stars Tom Hanks as Forrest Hump. "Hump Forrest hump!!"
1. 16.5 is not anime only (not even novel.) so i think all discussion about it, by this thread's rule, should be in spoiler tag.
2. Are we sure we want to discuss their relationship base on anime as anime is a mix of web version/published novel/progressive series which each of them describe their emotion development differently? I'd say the Asuna-Kirito development in progressive novel from progressive vol.1 to vol.3 is the most major point of difference between it and the main series, which anime episode 2 take out a bit of that while lefting other as the main
I know this thread is old now, but I'll give my 2 cents worth anyway.
I had no idea this existed and wish I continued to not know that this existed.
It's one of the most cringeworthy things I've ever read, I couldn't even finish it. I'll assume the author was really, really young when he wrote that.
Lady_Asuna
2015-06-12, 13:44
I was just on the askreddit thread about people who stayed virgins until marriage and boy do their experience differ from 16.5. But hey what can I say Kirito is a sex god.
I've been married for almost three years and my husband and I were virgins until we got married and we've never quite had a session like 16.5. Close. Or parts of it. But not that entire thing!
I felt so weird reading 16.5 like wow!
As far as their relationship and when they fell in love with each other...everyone has already stated my thoughts. Pretty much on page 1 before the conversation got...nasty.
ninjastarforcex
2015-06-12, 13:55
author was in high school when he wrote SAO
don't overthink lol
I wonder if they had done it already in the real world. The sensations would be much stronger in the real world than in SAO.
...but no system assist in the real world. :uhoh:
I didn't realize 16.5 was a thing until recently; its comical but cute in a way.
To necro the rest of the discussion I would say Lisbeth side story for Kirito.
author was in high school when he wrote SAO
don't overthink lol
Can we stop passing around this tired old meme? The author was 27 when he wrote SAO.
novalysis
2015-07-18, 05:47
To answer the thread: Read and Find out in Sword Art Online Progressive. Let's just hope that the lag time between the Japanese releases and English translations shrink.
That being said, looking at Progressive, I really wonder how Kirito ended up again as a lone wolf, and isolated to the point he decided to join the Black Cats, after traveling through several early floors with Asuna as his travelling companion. If Progressive follows Canon, this means that until Kirito meets Saachi and Saachi bites it, any Kirito X Asuna progress within Progressive will hit a hard limit, no matter how much shipteasing and shipping moments are written in.
I'd dare say though, in light of Progressive, Kirito and Asuna would have ended up together, the moment both of them leave the friendzone. I suspect Progressive will throw Kirito and Asuna into doldrums of the friendzone just to hold off the romance till Floor 70.
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2015-07-24, 07:10
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Bl@ckSwordsman
2015-12-10, 16:26
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