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portezbie
2003-11-04, 02:46
So far naruto has trianed with iruka, kkashi,ebisu, andjiraiya. Im wondering now who will train naruto next and what will he learn? Lately I feel like naruto has been just learning pure power moves which he will continue to develop to higher levels (a more effective reliable summoning and a onehanded more powerfule rasengan) but what else will narutos training have in store? Will someone prepare him for becoming a chuunin, either in strategy or team fighting? Will he learn taijitsu as lee and sasuke did? or what? and who will possibly continue his training? will he stick with jiraiya, maybe go back to kakashi or someone new.....I was even thinking he might end up learning from itachi the way sasuke is learning from orochimaru........ Any ideas?

Dopeskills
2003-11-04, 03:17
Maybe he will become self-taught and come up with stuff himself...

portezbie
2003-11-04, 03:21
in some aspects all the ninjas are training themselves.....naruto learns how to use the kage bushin in differnt ways as well as the henge.....and he does the rasengan in his own fashion.....but self teaching is only for people who really have nothing else to learn from others a.k.a. jounins......i think naruto still has much more to learn from his superiors yet he will still improve himself in is own ways

Danismyname
2003-11-04, 03:29
hell most likely stay with kakashi considering hes still a genin, but hell probably train himself in the basics since hes not great at them

Dragon Flame
2003-11-04, 03:30
naruto should stay with Jiraiya, you wont get much of a better teacher

portezbie
2003-11-04, 03:33
what sorta thigns might jiraiya teach him next? i was thinking maybe one of the elemental techniques like fire water earth etc

Sesshoumaru
2003-11-04, 04:59
what sorta thigns might jiraiya teach him next? i was thinking maybe one of the elemental techniques like fire water earth etc

if you really want to know then.. (i've read the manga)

(squint your eyes to read, I don't remember how to do a spoiler thing)

He will learn to do some kind of energy ball that only the foruth(?) could do. He learns to do some serios damage :)

Dragon Flame
2003-11-04, 05:32
SPOILER


thats the rasengan.. and the Fourth, and the 3rd can do it, along with Jiraiya, and now Naruto - the 4th created it, and it took the 3rd three years to master it, took Naruto one week

Alfzilla
2003-11-04, 05:34
Hes learning from Jiraiya at the moment and it really dosent get much better then that so why would he downgrade himself to some one els? Mite as well stick with the best.

Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-04, 05:44
SPOILER

thats the rasengan.. and the Fourth, and the 3rd can do it, along with Jiraiya, and now Naruto - the 4th created it, and it took the 3rd three years to master it, took Naruto one week

Naruto did learn the rasengan within one week.... however, he still needs 2 hands to execute the move. Whereas the 4th could do the move anytime anywhere with one hand; Jiraiya can also do it with one hand. He needs to train harder in order to be able to mature his skills etc. Getting back to the subject, I too think that Naruto should stick with Jiraiya..... After all, Naruto doesn't have much elemental moves up his sleeves. Then again, you may never know what will happen in Naruto..... Somebody or someone might show up to aid our 9 tails hero...

p3psi
2003-11-04, 08:35
I say he will become evil and Oro will teach him

Sesshoumaru
2003-11-04, 08:37
I say he will become evil and Oro will teach him

That's Sasukes fate.

Hunter
2003-11-04, 09:05
SPOILER


thats the rasengan.. and the Fourth, and the 3rd can do it, along with Jiraiya, and now Naruto - the 4th created it, and it took the 3rd three years to master it, took Naruto one week


Actually the 3rd didn't know the Rasengan, it was the 4th who needed 3 years to perfected this jutsu.
And a week is the time that Naruto needed to learn the 3rd step of the rasengan not all the jutsu ;)

And I think too that Jiraiya will train him on another jutsu.

Dragon Flame
2003-11-04, 09:07
hunter, im pretty sure Jiraiya told Naruto that it "took the 3rd three years to perfect th Rasengan, and he was the professor"

p3psi
2003-11-04, 09:11
hunter, im pretty sure Jiraiya told Naruto that it "took the 3rd three years to perfect th Rasengan, and he was the professor"

im pretty sure jiraiya said that it took the 4th 3 years to perfect it, and he was 6 grades above the 2nd, ultra high something or other level.

and no, naruto did not perfect it yet, he can only do it well with 1 clone, and pretty bad just by himself.

Dragon Flame
2003-11-04, 09:12
well, cant argue with two people... seems i was wrong ;-)

Hunter
2003-11-04, 09:18
No no, the only thing that Jiraiya said was that jutsu is one that the 4th left behind and that he perfected the rasengan after 3 years.
And after that Tsunade said that the only people who can use the rasengan were the 4th and Jiraiya.

For the new jutsu point, maybe Naruto could learn how to use the rasengan while transforming the chakra in elemental energy like the Chidori/Raikiri.
A small typhon of flame should be cool :cool:

Dragon Flame
2003-11-04, 09:20
as i confuse my self alot.. i got confused and thought that it took the 3rd 3 years. i mixed upo my numbers.. happens alot with me :bash:

p3psi
2003-11-04, 09:55
No no, the only thing that Jiraiya said was that jutsu is one that the 4th left behind and that he perfected the rasengan after 3 years.
And after that Tsunade said that the only people who can use the rasengan were the 4th and Jiraiya.

For the new jutsu point, maybe Naruto could learn how to use the rasengan while transforming the chakra in elemental energy like the Chidori/Raikiri.
A small typhon of flame should be cool :cool:

no, im pretty sure he said it took the 4th 3 years, becuase he was trying to say how difficult it was. and said right after that that the 4th was "6 grades above the 2nd" ultra high rank or something like that.

Hunter
2003-11-04, 10:10
no, im pretty sure he said it took the 4th 3 years, becuase he was trying to say how difficult it was. and said right after that that the 4th was "6 grades above the 2nd" ultra high rank or something like that.

:hmm:
This is exactly what I said.

portezbie
2003-11-04, 10:43
2 things id like to throw out there:
i was thinking once naruto becomes better at the rasengan he might learn how to do multiple rasengans with his shadow clones like 2 at ocne or 3 or whatever....thatwould be pretty dope
on the sasuke thing i ws thinking since oro seems to be after sasuke and itachi is after naruto maybe naruto will end up recieving some trainng from itachi, or maybe kakshi will train him in ways to protect himself from itachi's sharingan

could ibisu possibly come back into the picture?

Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-04, 10:56
2 things id like to throw out there:
i was thinking once naruto becomes better at the rasengan he might learn how to do multiple rasengans with his shadow clones like 2 at ocne or 3 or whatever....thatwould be pretty dope
on the sasuke thing i ws thinking since oro seems to be after sasuke and itachi is after naruto maybe naruto will end up recieving some trainng from itachi, or maybe kakshi will train him in ways to protect himself from itachi's sharingan

could ibisu possibly come back into the picture?

It's gonna take a long time before Naruto becomes better with the Rasengan... Although he has the 9 tails, but it did took the 4th Hokage 3-4 years to master the move. Unless Naruto's able to over come and fully takeover the 9 tails power then yes the multiple Rasengan shadow clones might come ture......hopefully.

Oro only want's Sasuke for his body and his Sharigan ability.... And Itachi's true motive over Naruto is not really 100% clear, since that guy gives everybody the creeps.... Who know's what he has in mind? I don't think Kakash's has anything more to teach Naruto..... It's all up to Jiraiya now for Naruto's upgrade... He's still got stuff up his sleeves that were not known of yet. It will be funny if the 4th Hokage actually comes back to life and somehow teaches Naruto.... after all their fate seems to be bound together (4th seals 9 tails in Naruto, Naruto learns 4th's Rasengan)

Crimson
2003-11-04, 11:36
P3psi thats exactly what Hunter was saying, maybe you should read his post again.... :uhoh:

OFFSPRiNGCo16
2003-11-04, 11:45
Well I think that eventually Naruto will learn from Jiraiya the true way to master the rasengan with one hand :p

Vicious
2003-11-04, 12:02
Naruto won't train with Itachi, it's impossible :P
BTW, I think Jiraiya will be his last teacher. Naruto will still learn another jutsu from Jiraiya, I think. But he'll learn to use the Rasengan with one hand on his own.

p3psi
2003-11-04, 14:23
:hmm:
This is exactly what I said.

not exact, i thought it said jariya perfected the rasegan in 3 years.

well, me from america anyways, me engilsh are not that gooder :heh:

Hunter
2003-11-04, 14:53
not exact, i thought it said jariya perfected the rasegan in 3 years.

well, me from america anyways, me engilsh are not that gooder :heh:



[...]
it was the 4th who needed 3 years to perfected this jutsu.
[...]


Like Crimson said, maybe you should read my posts again ;)

portezbie
2003-11-04, 16:12
i was just thinkin if he made four clones then maybe he could do it twice ......... so then what sorta thigns do you think jiraiya still has up his sleeve? the possibilities are endless...........could naruto maybe even learn how to use a weapon? Or what is the deal with that crazy thing jiraiya does....the toad stomache thingie?

CyBerGh0sT
2004-12-06, 16:48
Rasengan is better than chidori

chhayalak
2004-12-06, 17:28
Ero-sannin will most likely be the last sensei that will teach naruto any type of jutsu. I think after that it'll only be natural for Naruto to pursue individual learning and invent his own jutsu. Even though he is a bit dull im sure he can do it, conversely, like Gon in Hunter x Hunter who made up moves based on paper rock and scissor. Although, im really excited what other kind of jutsus Jirayia has up his sleeve and is willing to teach naruto =)

wb_hicks
2004-12-06, 17:48
i think naruto is going to learn every jutsu jaraiya knows plus some of the 4ths. with kyubi by his side there isnt a jutsu naruto shouldnt be able to proform inless is a bloodline limit.

Kayess
2004-12-06, 17:54
Or requires sand to be possessed by the soul of his mother who died soon after giving birth to him ;)

naantje
2004-12-06, 19:09
Naruto has GOT to learn the hair spikey thingy Jiraiya did vs Oro... imagine yellow hair spikes impaling sasuke's eye!!!!!

Yujinbito
2004-12-06, 22:25
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we see Naruto try to start a one-handed Rasengan in episode 112?

Lee-pimp
2004-12-06, 23:12
thats how he always starts his rasengan yujinbito, its just that it disspersed before he had time to do his two handed thingy

Naruto175
2004-12-06, 23:36
Guys you know wut i think first, naruto should stick with Jirayia because hes 1 of the 3 legendary Sannins, also i think that tsunade might help with narutos training because when she saw naruto could master the resengan she was impressed so she might help him. Also there is alot to develope in naruto... If you think about it sasuke and naruto will become rivals, sasuke will probably learn some secret and forbidden techniques from oro and jirayia will probably teach him the 1st and second most dificult moves to master or w/e but thats wut i think

Bombermanofdeath
2004-12-07, 00:08
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we see Naruto try to start a one-handed Rasengan in episode 112?
That's what it looked like to me, but then again, I always thought the second stage and final stage of Rasengan looked the same and we know Naruto can do the second staged Rasengan with one hand.

sOnJoOL
2004-12-07, 00:27
anime doesnt prove anything... i mean sasuke just conjured up a chidori w/o any seals in fight against naruto.... what was that about?
and i donno if we are talking about the manga, but if we are it is clearly said that who is going to train naruto.

Virus
2004-12-07, 00:55
At this rate he will need to go to train with Kame-Sennin, following Kame-Sama and following with King Kai. After he has reached level 3 super sayin, he will go train with San-Goku himself. If it all goes right, he will be able to do the Kamehameha move and beat Sasuke.

socomberetta
2004-12-07, 01:11
Naruto needs 3 hands to use it.

And if anime watchers want to know the current situation for Naruto's training:
Rules (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=11406)
There are no spoilers allowed in threads without the [Manga] tag in its title.

At this rate he will need to go to train with Kame-Sennin, following Kame-Sama and following with King Kai. After he has reached level 3 super sayin, he will go train with San-Goku himself. If it all goes right, he will be able to do the Kamehameha move and beat Sasuke.
Heh, too bad for Naruto, Sasuke is currently learning the Gallick Gun.

Yujinbito
2004-12-07, 01:22
thats how he always starts his rasengan yujinbito, its just that it disspersed before he had time to do his two handed thingy

That's true. But still.. there were no clones out at the time, and I doubt that he would be able to half-start the Rasengan and then summon clones to help him finish it. Maybe he was just doing it to test how much of his power had been drained. I suppose that if he were creating the Rasengan with the purpose of busting down the wall then there would have been a build-up to it, Naruto shouting about how he could take out the wall, everyone step aside, it gets all dramatic, and then fizzles. So yeah, probably just testing.

i mean sasuke just conjured up a chidori w/o any seals in fight against naruto....

That's something that's been bothering me lately. I was originally drawn to Naruto by the innovative fight scenes and the interesting way they were animated. Like Sasuke attacking Kakashi while Kakashi's holding onto his foot. It was the animation of the actual martial arts, and not the power-moves, that originally interested me. Another part of the allure was the crazy dramatic moments when people were fumbling over hand-seals, or doing them ritualistically.. remember how cool it was to watch Zabuza and Kakashi racing to make hand-seals in the first Kakashi Sharingan fight? Or Haku making one-handed seals? Those scenes were fantastic. Now nobody even bothers to do hand seals and the martial arts have gone out the window. Why? I miss those things.. :(

Tsukuyomi
2004-12-07, 02:59
i think naruto and sasuke can do their resangen and that chidori without handseals when they are angry or maybe it's like in the gekitou ninja taison game~ they're fill with chakra all built up and stuff and it's ready to use instantly xD

socomberetta
2004-12-07, 03:00
That's something that's been bothering me lately. I was originally drawn to Naruto by the innovative fight scenes and the interesting way they were animated. Like Sasuke attacking Kakashi while Kakashi's holding onto his foot. It was the animation of the actual martial arts, and not the power-moves, that originally interested me. Another part of the allure was the crazy dramatic moments when people were fumbling over hand-seals, or doing them ritualistically.. remember how cool it was to watch Zabuza and Kakashi racing to make hand-seals in the first Kakashi Sharingan fight? Or Haku making one-handed seals? Those scenes were fantastic. Now nobody even bothers to do hand seals and the martial arts have gone out the window. Why? I miss those things.. :(
The handseals are still necessary for the Chidori and any jutsu that is portrayed as needing hand seals to be performed. The only reason why you dont see the characters doing them, is because Kishimoto purposely left them out.

The type of taijutsu used by the characters depends on their skill-level and the style they employ, so not every style is as interesting to look at or as realistic-looking as others. Take Sasuke and Lee for example, they're shown to have taijutsu skills that look like a real martial artist can perform.

Now look at someone like Chouji. He's obviously not as graceful as someone as limber as Sasuke or Lee, but he is big and pretty strong. So, Kishimoto has him use taijutsu that makes use of his size, and that's the nikudan sensha. Its the taijutsu, where Chouji turns into a human cannonball and starts smashing things. It may not look realistic, and it even looks like a 'power-move', but it's still taijutsu. The same goes for someone like Kiba. The style of taijutsu that he uses is the Tsuuga, and that's as far from realistic-looking as that of Chouj's style.

Yujinbito
2004-12-07, 03:22
Well, I don't believe that I ever made a call for realism in fighting. Certainly the fight with Sasuke and Kakashi that I mentioned was not realistic. It just looked cool. And granted, the reason that we have not seen much martial-arts fighting recently is simply due to the fact that the characters who use martial arts well - Sasuke and Lee - have been out of the story as active fighters for a while. Your point is well taken that Chouji obviously cannot use acrobatic taijutsu. It's just not as interesting to watch in terms of a fight. Although, in Chouji's case the character development in the upcoming fight makes up for the lack of interesting fighting. I know that if we had had 112 episodes of people doing hand seals all the time, we would be deathly sick of them. I'm not saying the story should be different. Just lamenting the loss of some things that I really liked in the earlier parts of the show.

socomberetta
2004-12-07, 03:40
Well, I don't believe that I ever made a call for realism in fighting. Certainly the fight with Sasuke and Kakashi that I mentioned was not realistic. It just looked cool. And granted, the reason that we have not seen much martial-arts fighting recently is simply due to the fact that the characters who use martial arts well - Sasuke and Lee - have been out of the story as active fighters for a while. Your point is well taken that Chouji obviously cannot use acrobatic taijutsu. It's just not as interesting to watch in terms of a fight. Although, in Chouji's case the character development in the upcoming fight makes up for the lack of interesting fighting. I know that if we had had 112 episodes of people doing hand seals all the time, we would be deathly sick of them. I'm not saying the story should be different. Just lamenting the loss of some things that I really liked in the earlier parts of the show.
It looked pretty realistic to me, insofar that a person could actually move the way Sasuke did when Kakashi was holding his leg. I like Chouji's style of fighting, especially when we get further into his fight with Jiroubou.(God, dont let this be a spoiler...)

I know what you mean about the lack of handseals, and I agree that they should be used when it would be appropriate, but if Kishimoto were to draw a panel or two of hand seals for every fight it can become a distraction.

Kishimoto probably tapered off of showing hand seals because he probably felt that its already been established in the earlier chapters, that unless its specifically stated, all jutsus must have a hand seal performed before they can be used.

He's also probably had his fill of them after drawing the Zabuza/Kakashi fight. :)

Hunter
2004-12-07, 07:20
That's what it looked like to me, but then again, I always thought the second stage and final stage of Rasengan looked the same and we know Naruto can do the second staged Rasengan with one hand.
Actually no he can't, Naruto needed two hand to pass the very first step.
It was just another mistake of the anime team during their filler arc.

Will
2004-12-07, 07:41
Dont you worry, there's plenty of martial arts stuff coming up in this anime arc, some of it pretty damn surprising, so stay tuned.

fluffyduckx
2004-12-07, 07:43
jiraiya did tell naruto tat there r 8levels for rasengan rite? If jiraiya actualli mastered till tat final level den maybe he'll teach naruto to develop his rasengan further?! which prolly means that naruto can use it with juz one hand n use it as n when he needs it freeli?

Electrode
2004-12-07, 08:02
8 levels for Rasengan? i think you're getting confused with something else, fluffyduckx, like the grade of the jutsu (which was said to be two levels above the highest one, or words to that effect, if I remember correctly).

(EDIT: I meant "below" instead of "above". I did! Honest! :uhoh: )

Anthriel
2004-12-07, 08:46
8 levels for Rasengan? i think you're getting confused with something else, fluffyduckx, like the grade of the jutsu (which was said to be two levels above the highest one, or words to that effect, if I remember correctly). That wouldn't make any sense. ^^; Two Levels below the highest.

Electrode
2004-12-07, 09:17
Oh, right. I thought it was a little strange. Maybe I shouldn't post just after waking up, LOL.

But Anthriel's comment brings with it a point. If Rasengan is two levels below the highest (and as we all know, it's pretty powerful), then what are the higher two levels like? Have we ever seen jutsu higher in level than Rasengan actually used? And... does Jiraiya know any of them - meaning that will Naruto learn any higher-than-Rasengan level jutsu? That would be so awesome.

PerniciousJuJu
2004-12-07, 17:50
I think that naruto should befriend Gai and Lee. I think he will kick some major arse if that happens. I mean come on, First Iruka, Kakashi, Ebisu, Jaraiya, then Gai? It can't get any better than that!! LOL

*imagines Naruto in a green jump suit* :heh:

sLave
2004-12-07, 17:58
I guess Oro will take care of Sasuke and Jiraya of Naruto...and maybe Tsunade of Sakura
Remember in Episode 103 @ 19min ^^

monir
2004-12-07, 19:08
*imagines Naruto in a green jump suit* :heh:I still think Naruto should have taken up on Gai's offer of that special suit.

As for Taijutsu, I am sure Jiraiya-sama can teach Naruto. Beside, Gai-sensei has kawaii Lee. *sparkles all around as the two pairs of unique eyebrows are raised*

Senien
2004-12-07, 19:53
I'd prefer it if Naruto continued his training with Jiraiya. I mean if someone who taught the Fourth Hokage isn't a good enough teacher, then I don't know who is. Personally though, I'd like to see Naruto learning more jutsu's left behind by the Fourth Hokage.

mightyme
2004-12-07, 20:23
I'd prefer it if Naruto continued his training with Jiraiya. I mean if someone who taught the Fourth Hokage isn't a good enough teacher, then I don't know who is. Personally though, I'd like to see Naruto learning more jutsu's left behind by the Fourth Hokage.

I would liek to see naruto come back to konoha very very much liek the 4th, mroe refined, mroe intelegent, but still charismatic, and smiling wide..... I want to see naruto don that fighting spirit cape/cloak

also in the manga you get to see another of the 4ths moves.. I would very much like to see naruto learn that...

but most of all I want to see him create his own jutsus... ones on the level of rasengan but different in style and purpose...

soem taijutsu would be cool as hell as well...

maybe some more summoning techniques too... like that one Jaraiya did against Itachi in the hotel... where they were inside the frogs stomach....

lets see what else.....

I want tos ee naruto create a move that uses the kyuubi chakra in such a way that ONLY naruto can do the move.. as if it was a bloodline limit, but directly related to kyuubi power maybe even a kyuubi inspired taijutsu that uses both naruto's limbs and his angry red chakra in a combo

mexx
2004-12-07, 21:36
(woops)
-but as to the original question naruto's future training, anyone remeber the tiny sniplet right before jiarya took naruto on the trip to find tusande? he told kakshi he would be takeing naruto to the "Ninja special academy" or something or another. im 97% sure that he did say that. but it was only in the anime// manga (one or the other... maybe both?)

socomberetta
2004-12-07, 22:40
you know im prettty darn sure that only naruto can throw his chakra out in the form of a punch when he faught sasuke...no one else should have enough chakra to do that kind of attack.... but as to the original question naruto's future training, anyone remeber the tiny sniplet right before jiarya took naruto on the trip to find tusande? he told kakshi he would be takeing naruto to the "Ninja special academy" or something or another. im 97% sure that he did say that. but it was only in the anime// manga (one or the other... maybe both?)
I dont know about the anime, but Jiraiya does mention taking Naruto to the "Ninja Training Center" in the manga. Since he didnt take Naruto to such a place when they went off to find Tsunade, Im going to assume that he meant he would take him at a later date.

Bakayaro
2004-12-07, 23:07
[MANGA]

I"m pretty sure that Jiraiya said that to Kakashi in BOTH manga and anime, but then again, its been a few weeks since that anime episode came out, and im getting old! (:P jp, im only 15)

Yea, for the moves, i remember seeing this pic of like a future naruto or watever, he had like longer hair and stuff (it was in the manga, more recent) it woudl be SOO cool if he ends up doing the Spine move, ya know, the one where Jiraiya's hair almost completely wraps around his body and turns to spines? SOOO COOL!!!

Lst2touchdasky
2004-12-07, 23:13
His future training would probally most likely expanding his natural talents and skill. At this point in the story we know akatsuki wants kyubi, and if they ever decide to go after naruto once again, Kyubi has to be naruto's last option. But since all Naruto's abilites require alot of chakra to be properly used its common sense that it will be in this field that he needs to work on most. If jiyara is a good teacher he will work with naruto get his current limits to point which he can fight and not depend on his demon counterpart. Also he really needs to improve on his worthless chaotic taijutsu form. With speed and proper training, Kage buushin and regasen could be used in a more decent form. Also if Gamamichi or whatever the little frog name is devolops over this period of time it would be intresting.

socomberetta
2004-12-07, 23:52
[MANGA]

I"m pretty sure that Jiraiya said that to Kakashi in BOTH manga and anime, but then again, its been a few weeks since that anime episode came out, and im getting old! (:P jp, im only 15)

Yea, for the moves, i remember seeing this pic of like a future naruto or watever, he had like longer hair and stuff (it was in the manga, more recent) it woudl be SOO cool if he ends up doing the Spine move, ya know, the one where Jiraiya's hair almost completely wraps around his body and turns to spines? SOOO COOL!!!
Team 7 at 20 (http://aksarah.com/naruto/wallpaper/team7_at_20_paper.png)

Electrode
2004-12-08, 06:31
Also if Gamamichi or whatever the little frog name is devolops over this period of time it would be intresting. I too would love to see Gamakichi grow and mature more. Just think about Gamakichi eventually developing into a Gamabunta-sized monster. It would also be awesome (though very unlikely) if Gamatatsu grew up, lost the geeky thing and became a badass too. Maybe then, Naruto could get a double-toad summon going (Gamakichi and Gamatatsu) - that would get some mad fights going on. (Although I get the feeling at this time that Gamatatsu will stay as a strictly comic-relief figure.)

Anyway, it would be incredible if Naruto developed a connection to Gamakichi on the same level that Jiraiya has with Gamabunta (with the whole friendship/partnership thing). And besides, Gamakichi is nicer than his dad...

XanderPhoenix
2004-12-08, 07:16
i dont know if its just me but i have always wondered why naruto cant throw the rasengan it would be so cool it would save him from having to go at close combat which he is not particularly good at anyway.

fzz
2004-12-08, 08:51
i dont know if its just me but i have always wondered why naruto cant throw the rasengan it would be so cool it would save him from having to go at close combat which he is not particularly good at anyway.

you wanna move to dbz style ? christ dude..

anyway, i think naruto will keep on training with jiraiya.. he will learn more about akatsuki and realises he needs to change his attitude..

he will learn to master his rasengan, summon gamabunta without kyubi chakra, and learn to summon some smaller frogs (like jiraiya did vs kisame)
some taijutsu thingys and he needs to work on the basics.. but i think jiraiya aint that good in taijutsu himself..

cant wait till we see the results :D

Gevurah
2004-12-08, 09:06
i dont know if its just me but i have always wondered why naruto cant throw the rasengan it would be so cool it would save him from having to go at close combat which he is not particularly good at anyway.

If that happened, all the idiots will be saying... OMGWTFBBQ RASENGAN = KAMEHAMEHA, or some other dumb DB comparison.

But it would definately be cool. I just want to see him combine it with Yondy's body flicker. Death to sharingan!

EDIT: oh look, somebody verified my point.

lotus_lee
2004-12-08, 09:17
i dont know if its just me but i have always wondered why naruto cant throw the rasengan it would be so cool it would save him from having to go at close combat which he is not particularly good at anyway.

Well, it will then be called a 'guzzle of chakra', not a Rasengan because in order for the Rasengan to work, it needs to keep spinning.

I would like Naruto to first be able to do the Rasengan on one-hand, and then be able to do it on both hands. That would be so cool. One for each chicken wing the next time they fight.

mexx
2004-12-08, 09:35
you know in the anime naruto faught gara mostly with his own chakra... he also summoned the giant frog with his own chakra as well ( uh at least itw as blue chakara you didnt see naruto turn flameing)... but yea j-man doesnt seem to be a taijitsu type, got owned by orochimo w/o his arms ><

Hunter
2004-12-08, 10:18
you know in the anime naruto faught gara mostly with his own chakra... he also summoned the giant frog with his own chakra as well ( uh at least itw as blue chakara you didnt see naruto turn flameing)... but yea j-man doesnt seem to be a taijitsu type, got owned by orochimo w/o his arms ><
No the anime team just "forgot" to show that Naruto got the Kyubi's eyes, he can't summon Gamabunta like that.

_Sin_
2004-12-08, 12:48
No the anime team just "forgot" to show that Naruto got the Kyubi's eyes, he can't summon Gamabunta like that.

How about accepting that the anime is going a slightly different way than the manga is? Something as major as that cannot be "forgotten" but must have been intended.

Anthriel
2004-12-08, 13:02
How about accepting that the anime is going a slightly different way than the manga is? Something as major as that cannot be "forgotten" but must have been intended. Well, it's true that the anime tends to make Naruto more "perfect" than the manga does, for example by giving him a role in the Haku fight before Kyuubi and by leaving him trashtalking Chouji. But I don't think they would change something that subtle intentionally. Why should they? I doubt anyone but the hardcore freaks noticed that change anyway.

_Sin_
2004-12-08, 13:13
Well, it's true that the anime tends to make Naruto more "perfect" than the manga does, for example by giving him a role in the Haku fight before Kyuubi and by leaving him trashtalking Chouji. But I don't think they would change something that subtle intentionally. Why should they? I doubt anyone but the hardcore freaks noticed that change anyway.

It's nothing subtle. It's something very important since summoning Gamabunta with his own chakra makes him appear stronger in the anime than he is in the manga. And since this does go well with the other changes you mentioned (they all make Naruto appear stronger/more useful) I'd say it was intended.

Hisoka??
2004-12-08, 13:56
maybe naruto would learn proper frog summoning from jiraiya
imagine instead of an army of kagebushin, naruto summons up an army of frogs just might be possible given he has the cb(chyuubi or somethign) chakra which is supposed to be limitless or super large

DangerousOne
2004-12-08, 15:48
How about accepting that the anime is going a slightly different way than the manga is? Something as major as that cannot be "forgotten" but must have been intended.

End of the day is anime make mistakes and anime adds unnecesary stuff, they are following the story of the manga so manga is the story. Just look at the filler arc they added, so many inconsistencies in there.

Satoru
2004-12-08, 16:04
No the anime team just "forgot" to show that Naruto got the Kyubi's eyes, he can't summon Gamabunta like that.

I agree. Some people just ignore that the manga is the original part.
And also...stop talking about Naruto's own chakra capacity.
The kyuubi is at the root of Naruto's stamina...meaning there is no separation.

Magus
2004-12-08, 16:46
no, im pretty sure he said it took the 4th 3 years, becuase he was trying to say how difficult it was. and said right after that that the 4th was "6 grades above the 2nd" ultra high rank or something like that.

Jiraya says the Rasengan is ranked 2nd highest out of six difficulty levels. It has nothing to do with the 2nd Hokage.

monir
2004-12-08, 17:48
Well, it's true that the anime tends to make Naruto more "perfect" than the manga does, for example by giving him a role in the Haku fight before Kyuubi and by leaving him trashtalking Chouji. But I don't think they would change something that subtle intentionally. Why should they? I doubt anyone but the hardcore freaks noticed that change anyway.I have no idea about what were the changes made by the anime team in the examples you provided, but I follow Sin's logic when it comes to Naruto's huge number of Kage Bunshin with his own chakra in the Gaara fight. It just didn't make any sense how Naruto suddenly was able to generate that amount of chakra without Kiyubi-intervention. So, either anime team messed up or they made the change intentionally. We all know from the recent filler that the anime-team isn't very innovative when the story telling falls entirely on their shoulder without borrowing someone else's script. So at the same time, it doesn't make any sense as to why the anime-team would want to jeopardize the story-telling by veering off from its manga counterpart with such noticeable inconsistency.

Personally, I will remain content as long as Jiraiya-sama doesn't end up being Naruto's father because the anime team suddenly have it all figured out. Let the Super Pervert be.

Hunter
2004-12-08, 19:04
It's nothing subtle. It's something very important since summoning Gamabunta with his own chakra makes him appear stronger in the anime than he is in the manga. And since this does go well with the other changes you mentioned (they all make Naruto appear stronger/more useful) I'd say it was intended.
Just re-watch this episode, the second before Naruto summoned Gamabunta he was saying that he hadn't any chakra left.
The anime team just messed up this one, it's not like it was the first time.

And also...stop talking about Naruto's own chakra capacity.
The kyuubi is at the root of Naruto's stamina...meaning there is no separation.
That's going too far, it's true that the Kyubi is the reason why Naruto has such an incredible stamina/amount of chakra but there is a difference between the normal chakra of Naruto slowly mixing with the chakra of the Kyubi and the pure red chakra of the Kyubi.

SpyderSidiouss
2008-07-12, 11:55
I wonder why jiraiya never sent naruto to go to the frogs earlier... or at least teach him what he was taught by the frogs... this just seems a little wierd. i hope we dont have to spend too much time on the frog training because his other training with yamato was long enough and it was basically a complete waste. (and if it hurts his arm, why cant he just make a clone do it???) jiraiya had to nice techniques like moving through the shadows, and all the cool frogs he can summon, naruto better be able to do those things.

Fyria
2008-07-12, 12:00
Hmm you sure are on with Thread Necromancy...

SpyderSidiouss
2008-07-12, 12:23
Hmm you sure are on with Thread Necromancy...

and you sure are off with logic. If i wanted to make a thread about naruto's new training i would have to :

1. go to the "request a thread" thread and ask for it.
2. wait till they or someone else research and tells me yes or no.
3. if they say 'yes' i would then write a post in the thread for them to post it.

.....so i bypassed these steps and research myself, and look what i found! so i post in here because its the same topic with what i want to talk about now, and it fits whats going on now.

there are ALOT of people who are "on" with thread necromancy in this forum because **news flash** we're not allowed to make our own threads because of clutter, so they always tell people to post in old threads if the topic is similar. and anyway do you REALLY want to see the SAME old threads up here for months and months? like that tired "create a jutsu or character" thread, thats been creating more ARGUMENTS than characters and jutsus? lmao

Fyria
2008-07-12, 13:41
and you sure are off with logic. If i wanted to make a thread about naruto's new training i would have to :

1. go to the "request a thread" thread and ask for it.
2. wait till they or someone else research and tells me yes or no.
3. if they say 'yes' i would then write a post in the thread for them to post it.

.....so i bypassed these steps and research myself, and look what i found! so i post in here because its the same topic with what i want to talk about now, and it fits whats going on now.

there are ALOT of people who are "on" with thread necromancy in this forum because **news flash** we're not allowed to make our own threads because of clutter, so they always tell people to post in old threads if the topic is similar. and anyway do you REALLY want to see the SAME old threads up here for months and months? like that tired "create a jutsu or character" thread, thats been creating more ARGUMENTS than characters and jutsus? lmao

While it's certainly intresting to read peoples opinions and messages while Part 1 was ongoing its little confusing too, since there is discussion with 2004 posters and suddenly we jump to 2008 on Part 2 relative conversation.

We aren't exactly standing in same points with story and chars as we did on 2004 part 1, when people visit these new threads they start reading from OP and it can be bit confusing, specially if thread is longer than 5-10 pages and if you quete post that was made on 2004 makes it kinda hard to distinguish.

Well it could be bit clearer to keep everything wrapped and issue clear if there would be thread requesment like having thread ''Naruto's future training Part 2'' Much like all threads are having done in Code Geass section.

Also this thread doesn't have manga tag and while Naruto's future training is quite important issue special after reading few last manga chapters it's quite frustrating to discuss with thread like that without releasing spoilers. Anime watchers will watch these threads without manga spoilers and are spoiled in process specially when no real warning of talking about future training with Jiraya and sudden training with F****S.

Btw your habit of picking every poster with counter-arguments and pure insults are quite damn annoying and make people quite fed with you and ignore very message you are trying to say and they just become stubborn of your message and try found all flaws of it to smash them with counter-arguments, turning thread in personal contradicting instead intresting discussion of thread objective.