Need to lose Gut [Archive] - AnimeSuki Forum

Slade

2004-04-26, 20:24

Well, someone's gonna say it mind as well it be me.

Stop eating so much. If you eat less, you'll lose weight. Easy as that.

Let me tell you a few things you should know.

Soda is really, really fattening and diet sodas... well, they're alright but they're not really healthy for you either. Drink Water. Carry a bottle of water with you everywhere and anywhere.

Don't eat after 7. If you goto sleep around 12-1, don't eat anything after 7. If you goto sleep 2-3 you can move that to 8. Eating late and going to sleep is very bad.

Exercising is annoying as hell. I hate exercises that aren't fun. That's why I have a punching-bag/sand bag set up in my basement which I have fun with every 2 days or so. If you don't have access to that I suggest playing DDR(no joke, my friend lost 20 pounds playing 1 hour of DDR everyday in a month).

If you eat less, drink water instead of sodas and other foods that has alot of calories, you'll start to see the result in less than 2 weeks. It's hard though, if you indulge yourself and get out of the pattern, you can say good bye for your little plan. It's all up to your motivation and self control.

Good luck.

boneyjellyfish

2004-04-26, 20:37

Liposuction!

MwyC

2004-04-26, 20:59

i KNEW that last one was gonna come up sonner or later...
i can second that DDR comment
ive noticed ive gotten a bit wider after i lent my pad out to a friend

LoveOfAnime

2004-04-26, 21:08

Here is what works for me. It is my own altered atkins.

First Eating: Lots of vegetables the brighter the color the better-High in vitamins and engery boosters
Meats : Lots of pork chops Chicken and fish the less red meat the better! High in Proteins and energy. Also like a lot of people above said lots of WATER. 8 - 10 glasses a day is a good start.
Now for the Ughhh part. All the Bread and Junk go bye bye. That means nothing like breads, pastas or fatty foods.

Now for the Exercise. Anything is better than nothing. I do aerobics to speed up the heart to burn calories and fat and then stuff like sit ups, crunchs, and push ups to help tone everything. Jogging and or swimming would also be okay or even power walking. Whatever you are comfortable with doing. I hope this helps! :)

Roots

2004-04-26, 21:09

Do the following:

1) Daily cardioextravascular (sp?) exercise. Whether its running, biking, or swimming, get that heart rate up! You're probably out of shape, so start slow and easy (20 minute light jogs) and then gradually build up (add 5 minutes a week and go a little faster/harder)

2) Don't eat less, eat right. Stop having all those fatening foods and drinks. Don't eat desert. Drink water, NOT SODA! Eat whole grains, fruits and vegetables and don't consume a whole lot of meat (but still include meat in your diet)

Its as easy as that. Doing that I got in the best shape of my life and I had not an ounce on me. I ate A LOT too because all that exercise makes you hungry. If you exercise hard and eat less, you won't get thin, you'll get sick.

EDIT: LoveOfAnime beat me too it :) Although I don't agree with the dieting plan that stops you from eating bread and other high-carbohydrate foods.

LoveOfAnime

2004-04-26, 21:15

ArcHawk

2004-04-26, 21:21

I hate spending time excersizing in the evening or night (work during the day) so I've gotten into the habit of doing a morning routine. It really doesn't take much to lose that gut, you just have to stick with it. I spend about 15 minutes every morning doing sit-ups, crunches, push-ups, and stretches. Enough to build up a nice little sweat before I hit the shower and make me feel good about doing something. I've found that a side benefit of this is that I generally just feel better and more relaxed during the day as well. I sit at a computer all day at work and it keeps me limber and I've been able to avoid backaches and stiffness that you might normally get in such a stationary setting. It's not the time thats important, its the ability to stick with it. Find a good 30 minute spot during your day and do something during that time everyday (unless something special is going on).

It helps if you augment with a good diet and jogging of course. Try to take one bad thing out of your diet at a time. A year ago I gave up soda pop (except when in a mixed drink ;)) It was hard at first but after a couple of months, I barely missed it. And now, although I am sure I'd still enjoy a Coke or Root Beer, I have no real desire to drink one when presented the option of that or water. My next step was to eliminate fast food. I'm to the point where I never go to a fast food joint unless ith friends (unless it is like a Subway) and I try my best to avoid the fast food burgers and fried chicken (not quite there yet :))

Another idea is to force yourself to do something in exchange for a treat. I'm not talking double fudge ice cream either. When you go to download that new anime episode from AnimeSuki, go out jogging while its downloading. You'll have that 'carrot' to motivate you on the return trip home.

You won't get truly chisled unless you really workout hard, but with a modicum of effort, you can keep the beer gut at bay.

Christ, I spend 5 minutes on a post and in that time span, eberything I typed has been posted ;)

Key

2004-04-26, 21:28

Also, it's better to have a few healthy snacks (like fruits, etc.) in between breaking for energy than it is to starve yourself until breakfast, lunch, and dinner (because people tend to stuff their faces after lack of food for too long). Eat dinner earlier (erm, 6PM is the norm I guess... I eat at like 8 or 9 though x.x) and put less food on your dinner plate... I think that's a tad obvious, though.

And exercise, I guess. I personally don't but then again, I'm horribly out of shape.

I'm no diet guru or anything but this was just my 2 cents.

Wandering_Youth

2004-04-26, 21:54

Water and drinks lots of it because it helps your body stay balanced plus it helps flush your body of all the junk and sugary foods you eat so no more sodas and juice drinks. Watch what you eat mainly foods that have lots of carbohydrates.

aahhsin

2004-04-26, 21:57

Great suggestions. I'll mix and match your suggestions to suit me. I recently ran like at 6:20 pacific time... outlook not so good... my chest started to hurt like hell and my legs seem as though they can collapse at any second... after 30 minutes... its seems ok, but i can still feel the effects...

Slade xTekno

2004-04-26, 22:48

Most of these points have been mentioned, but anyway:

Cardiovascular excercise: Anything that makes your heart beat faster. Go for over 30 minutes at a pace that works you, but doesn't cause you to pass out.
Cardiovascular excercise will trim fat much faster than sit-ups ever will. If you do both, it's better.
Running is bad for your feet, but it will work out every muscle in your legs as well as your shoulders.
Biking is good because your feet aren't slamming into the floor. Works out your butt, quads, and calves, too.
If you can get your hands on one, use an elliptical machine. They put almost no force on the feet [pregnant women can work out on them], but provide a very good cardiovascular excercie. Doesn't provide too good a muscular excercise, though.

Diet: Eat right, not less.
Soda is very bad for you. It weakens bones, plus are full of sugar. You should avoid them altogether.
The sugar substitute used in diet sodas can combine with chemicals in your body to create a toxin that wears away at your brain. This has been shown to be the cause of Alzheimer's cases in 30-year-olds [yes, 30].
Please don't eat fat free food. Fat is what makes you feel "full." Without fat to provide this, you will end up gorging on this stuff. It normally also has the same amount of calories as normal food, so you end up with more calories.
Drink half a cup of grapefruit juice after breakfast and dinner. It's very good for, plus speeds up your metabolism.
Don't eat until your full, but until you feel satisfied. Try to expand to five to six "meals" a day. I use quotes because a meal can also be a large snack. It also speeds up your metabolism.
Take a multi-vitamin every day.

I will post more later...

raikage

2004-04-26, 23:29

Don't eat until your full, but until you feel satisfied. Try to expand to five to six "meals" a day. I use quotes because a meal can also be a large snack. It also speeds up your metabolism.

Remember to make those meals smaller!

Cammie

2004-04-26, 23:34

Jin

2004-04-27, 00:06

Work out before you eat in the morning, it burns more fat because you didn't consume any fat calories so exercising in the morning burns off your reserve. Best thing to do is get 8 minute abs and do it twice a day and get your ass outside and start running. Do sprints and light jogs in intervals of 2 minutes each.

scingram

2004-04-27, 13:18

Read up on the South Beach Diet.
Very good, a lot of the principles discussed here about diet are covered there.
Low in bad carbs, but nowhere near as restrictive as say Atkins.
Good food and effective.

Plus find some sort of excersise that you enjoy, even if it is as simple as walking an extra 30 min a day. Everything helps.

hobobaggins

2004-04-27, 13:48

Plus find some sort of excersise that you enjoy, even if it is as simple as walking an extra 30 min a day. Everything helps.

SEE: golf.

Losing guts...

Atkins works. very well.

but on the other hand, it seems like a pain in the ass not being able to eat/consume any carbs.

Jinto

2004-04-27, 13:50

Well there is a problem, cells that are just a fat storage wont turn into other sorts of cells, so you can only empty them (not remove, well a medical Liposuction will remove them, but it is not worth the risks). To empty them you need to avoid any extra fat in the evening (eat light things in the evening). Drink much jiuce, try to drink the same amount you eat at the meals. And in the time between also drink much juice water etc. This has a good effect on the fat burning but also for your health. When you do sport you must not run like hell or something, when your heartbeat/s (<= pulse?) is somewhat about 20 to 30% over the pulse when you do totally nothing, you have the optimum fat burning condition (when you advance, you will notice, that you have to run/walk -whatever- faster to get the same effect. But in the first time relatively easy things will do the trick). Very important is the time you choose for your practice. A good time would be in the morning before breakfast, but drink some juice while you train (pure water is not enough, it should contain minerals, carbonhydrate and all the vitamines, calcium etc). An excercise should not only be 10 minutes or so. When you do something, do it easy, but do it as long as possible (2 hours of fast walking i.e.).
Try to use food with polyunsaturated fatty acids.
That should work out nice, well I could not try it myself, because I don't want to loose weight ^^'

Rhia

2004-04-27, 14:06

Depending on how old u are u could join a gym, just become more active and check your self whecn u pick up a biscuit or a can of coke ect..
It sounds hard but from experience once you start it becomes easy and natural..

Lexander

2004-04-27, 14:18

Ok I need to know how much everyone weights to determine whos advie not to take.

So far I've only read Roots' and Jinto's advice ... for obvious reasons.

GungFuFury

2004-04-27, 14:22

i would not recommend the atkins diet... and any nutrition specialist would tell u the same... u need carbs because they contain glycogen which is the first source of energy that ur body consumes.... yeh... u'll lose weight because it goes directly to ur fats for an energy source but... as soon as u start eating carbs or starches again ull gain it all back... there is a reason for this but i dont want to get into all of that but i really suggest not doin the atkins diet although the south beach diet is pretty good... and if ur really over weight and desperate there is weight watchers which is a GREAT program from what i seen of my friends who have tried it and lost a TON of weight... another advice would be to eat 5-7 light meals a day instead of 3 big portions this helps build ur metabolism and ALWAYS eat breakfast for the same reason it helps get ur digestion goin throughout the day and to lose the gut... do sit ups and crunches but vary the types u do each day and doin them on a bubble ball REALLY works well and declined situps really work that lower ab area... thats all i can think of now... im still at work... i hope i helped somewhat :)

CerealKiller

2004-04-27, 14:25

Start running. Aim for 5 days a week 30 minutes that's hard in the beginning, but if you got the rythem it goes damn fast. Drink a lot as well, just have a 1.5 or 2 litre bottle with you next to the computer and drink when you're bored. That way you'll transport all the 'garbage'(srry couldn't find the right word) out of your body. Also finding a good reason to build up stamina is important, it keeps you going.

raikage

2004-04-27, 14:26

Ok I need to know how much everyone weights to determine whos advie not to take.

So far I've only read Roots' and Jinto's advice ... for obvious reasons.

Heh...weight doesn't exactly factor into it, especially if you're a guy - muscle weighs more than fat. Are you looking for more of that bodybuilder look, swimmer look, skinny look, what have you?

Jinto Lin I also heard that when fat cells rech a certain size - they split into two cells - and therefore the magic six-pack becomes that much closer to impossible because you now have twice. four, eight, however many times the amount of fat cells you did before. (Though, since I'm not a bio major, I can't confirm that)

EDIT: Oh, and whoever in this thread is trying to lose weight - including me - have realistic expectations. Losing 50 pounds in a month is not a realistic expectation. I think...1-2 pounds a week (or something like that) is a bit more realistic and the weight will stay off longer.

Also, if you lose weight too fast, your skin won't shrink to reflect your new skinny self - and that's kind of gross/makes it look like you haven't really lost weight.

Shift_

2004-04-27, 14:30

There are alot of diffrent theories out there on how to lose weight. The most popular one right now is low carb diet. That means no pasta, bread, pizza etc unless it's low carb.

you can eat whatever else you want, fat, proteins, etc carbs are what get stored in your gut. IT seems to work with people, but only from certain ethnic backgrounds (ie europeans)

I am not a believer in this, because I'm chinese, I eat white rice (HIGH IN CARBS) all the time, I'm still pretty thin. But that's probally because of my ethnic background. It works yes, but I don't think it's the healthest routine, because you need carbs for energy. But if you;re like most people you're lazy people, and you don't work out, so eliminating carbs is a good thing.

But basically eat just enough to make your self full, don't stuff your self. Workout for 30 min every 2nd or 3rd day, 4 sets of 15 crunches, jogging, weights etc.

You need fat to make muscle, fat cells become muscle cells.

IF you want to learn more take a nutrition course, and learn how the human body works. I've been studying this shit for like 2 years now because I want to get into med school, it's intresting stuff.

The Low carb diet WILL work, the long term effects are still unknown, but I my self would never beable to do it, because I need to have like 3 bowls of rice a day or else I'll go crazy :) Basically if you eat carbs, work out burn the carbs off.

The reason most people get fat is because the Food Piramid (sp?) thing recommends way more carbs than anything else, but that thing is USELESS unless if you work out. People think just following the eating thing is good enough, but if you don't work out all those carbs get stored in your gut and theighs (sp)

MikoKikyo

2004-04-27, 14:38

Well there is a problem, cells that are just a fat storage wont turn into other sorts of cells, so you can only empty them (not remove, well a medical Liposuction will remove them, but it is not worth the risks).'
That's true, and most people don't know that: you can NOT get rid of you fat cells! All you can do is shrink them, they can alter in size, but you cannot remove them, unless you do liposuction of course. Yet you can gain them anytime *so unfair*
Another thing you should note is that you can't lose weight in some specific areas only; whatever you do to lose weight will affect all your body evenly, so in order to lose that gut you have to change your eating habits. (You could simply try specialized exercise to transform the fatty tissue into muscle but that won't diminish it :) - good luck)

Rhia

2004-04-27, 14:45

Ok I need to know how much everyone weights to determine whos advie not to take.

So far I've only read Roots' and Jinto's advice ... for obvious reasons.

But saying that is quite silly cos some peoples height make them weigh more..

GungFuFury

2004-04-27, 14:50

That's true, and most people don't know that: you can NOT get rid of you fat cells! All you can do is shrink them, they can alter in size, but you cannot remove them, unless you do liposuction of course. Yet you can gain them anytime *so unfair*
Another thing you should note is that you can't lose weight in some specific areas only; whatever you do to lose weight will affect all your body evenly, so in order to lose that gut you have to change your eating habits. (You could simply try specialized exercise to transform the fatty tissue into muscle but that won't diminish it :) - good luck)

all exactly what i wanted to say after reading the other comments... i tottally agree with what she said... :)

Lexander

2004-04-27, 14:51

But saying that is quite silly cos some peoples height make them weigh more..

Don't forget bonemass ...

And yes I did realize noone is going to call out their weight ;). Just don't want to be getting gutloss advice from the folks that still have one :P

Me went from 145 to 135 in a week. But my method was very painful and probably unhealthy ;)

CerealKiller

2004-04-27, 15:04

dunno how much stone, but i'm about 72 kilos right now, and i have way less fat than before i started training.

ato

2004-04-27, 16:25

The best thing about dieting is that everyone knows best! ;)

Pretty common knowledge: Your body consumes energy in order to function. Eating serves as a means of getting that energy. If you consume food containing more energy than your body uses up, you will gain mass. If you consume food containing less energy than your body needs, you will loose mass - Mostly, but not only, fat mass.

Pretty much everyone agree up to this point (but some will argue none the less...heh). After this, though, it's up to the "diet fad of the day" to get the rest done. I personally read the Hackers Diet (http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html) and it got me in the right mood. Not that I did what the guy says, but it made me reason about it in a productive manner. I'm currently trying to gain muscle mass, so weight gain doesn't seem all that bad to me, heh. To each, his own. Good luck with your fat mass loss :)

boneyjellyfish

2004-04-27, 17:46

Me went from 145 to 135 in a week. But my method was very painful and probably unhealthy ;)

Did you stick your finger down your throat and throw up until you lost weight? I keep wondering if that actually works...

Asura

2004-04-27, 18:38

losing gut made easy: cut yourself open and replace the intestines with a single long tube... j/k

get bussy, get walking, don't think much of anything. works for me.

i don't think going to the gym help much... from what i see when ppl do go to gym: drive around looking for parking space near entrance, park car, walk some 16ft distance, and then mount themselves on some machine... useless.. time in gym better spent doing aerobic excercises, like playing badminton, voley ball, basketball, etc...

LVO

2004-04-27, 18:39

If you have access to a pool, swim laps instead of running. Running is bad for your back and is painful on your joints. Swimming provides a lower impact, higher intensity workout.

MikoKikyo

2004-04-27, 18:47

Did you stick your finger down your throat and throw up until you lost weight? I keep wondering if that actually works...
Not really. When you eat something, 50% of the calorie intake is absorbed by your body immediately. So when you throw up, only the remaining half will fail to reach your system and get stored as fat. That's why bulimic people don't tend to be as skinny as anorexic people.

I think what he might've done is something along the lines of dehydration, like running covered by some sort of black outfit. You lose all your water and so you quickly lose weight -> some wrestling players I know do that, but of course, it's only temporary.

Asura

2004-04-27, 19:02

or... you can try be this chicken... http://www.subservientchicken.com/

nooc

2004-04-27, 20:22

Not really. When you eat something, 50% of the calorie intake is absorbed by your body immediately.Err.. right..

Fact is that if you eat sweet things, the sugar can be absorbed in your stomach, but if you eat meat or whatever that isn't "sweet", it will take much longer for the energy to be released into the blood stream.

Those of you who are wondering about your weight should first calculate your BMI. If your BMI is somewhat normat, then you need theraphy. ;)

MikoKikyo

2004-04-27, 20:32

That's just what I learned in health class, nooc *shrug*
While you're getting very specific talking about sugar and meat, in general, it might average out to 50% if you count those that take long and those that get released right away - but that's just a theory.

But I don't know...
the 50% thing is a fact I learned in health class, nooc, that's all I can tell you. I'm no biology major, that's for sure.

The point though, is that while you eliminate some of what you had consumed, it's not the whole of what you ate. So it's really not an effective way to lose weight (plus it's detrimental to your health but this every idiot knows)

Lexander

2004-04-27, 23:07

N0000 I didn't force throwup :). I just didn't eat anything for about 4 days and excersized for about 4 hours a day. Not eating kinda blew ...

JubeiYamazaki

2004-04-28, 05:59

If anyone is even considering doing the Atkins Diet it worked for me, but........ ALWAYS SEE YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE DOING ATKINS OR ANY DIET THAT RADICALLY CHANGES YOUR LIFESTYLE.

Scrumhalf

2004-04-28, 06:20

Jenny Craig. Nuff said.

nooc

2004-04-28, 08:06

the 50% thing is a fact I learned in health class, nooc, that's all I can tell you. I'm no biology major, that's for sure.The only sugars that can be absorbed right away are glucose and fructose.

Read more (http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/yrdd/)

Shift_

2004-04-28, 09:23

Has anyone been listening?

The Atkins diet works. ONLY because you lower your intake of carbs. HOWEVER carbs are VERY important to vital functions of our bodies. But carbs = energy as well. THe only reason the Atkins diet works is because of your ethnic background, metabolism, and how much excersize you normally do.

The only people I've EVER seen it to work on are people who never work out, and never do any kind of excersize, because they don't use up the carbs so it goes to their gut and stuff.

OR people who have worked out alot, and their body is used to storing up lots of carbs, and they just suddenly stop working out for some reason.

Personally, I eat whatever the fuck I want 3 bowls of rice a day min (that's more carbs than the food pyrimd thing recommends lol) and fatty foods, mc donalds etc. All I do is work out later. If I went on a low carb diet I'd like die...seriously me + no rice = wtf?

I'm 5"11 and I weigh 175 lbs. Which is about average my body build and height.

nooc

2004-04-28, 13:12

Has anyone been listening? ...Let me think about that for a while...

http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d99ben/pic/Jargon_ears_plugged.gif
:D

Lexander

2004-04-28, 13:24

Has anyone been listening?

Well did anyone say The Atkins diet is healthy? No. They just said it works ... Not sure why you went through the whole explanation again. Maybe if you explain the third time people will go ... "you know what, the Atkins diet doesn't work after all ... " :D

rEkKaShInObI

2004-04-28, 13:34

dont eat for a long time, live off water n drinks.

Kempis Curious

2004-04-28, 14:01

You should think first about why you want to lose the fat belly and weight.
It's because those things are the usual indicator that you are out of shape, weak, and/or have no stamina.

So forget about the diets, that will treat the symptoms of the problem only... and make you lose the energy you'll need to get in shape. That's what you really want... looking good will naturally follow that.

I myself have gained strength, flexibility, and stamina through martial arts. It's good excercise which isn't boring, and progressive goals are set for you by people with experience.

The excercise will naturally reduce your calorie intake as well. It's hard for me to eat high calories at lunch if I have to workout that evening... I'll get indigestion or even throw up if I get pushed over the line while sparring on a full stomach.

-k

rEkKaShInObI

2004-04-28, 14:03

hm... subway, eat fresh!

w00t 600th post.

hobobaggins

2004-04-28, 15:37

run like richard simmons is behind you.

ONI5

2004-04-28, 15:39

Repeated coupling with one of the opposite gender will work wonders.

Mr_Paper

2004-04-28, 15:49

run like richard simmons is behind you.I think a rampaging group of sex deprived prison queens would have a better effect. Of course that would only effect males. Women would have to figure something else out... like... 99% off everything at Tiffany's?

Kaoru

2004-04-28, 15:56

:eek: Kaoru's sexy body secrets!?

Hmm...never tried the Atkins diet, or any other diet for that matter. I luff to eat, so skipping out on all the good stuff is like no way for me. :heh: But I am cautious as to how much I eat, it's ok to indulge yourself every once in awhile. I don't eat 3 big meals everyday, I sort of "expand" my meals throughout the day. Ok maybe dinner I eat more than necessary :uhoh: , but don't eat big meals too late and then sleep afterwards because it's very bad. For reasons I'm sure you already know.
Eat lots of greens! Watch the carbs. And avoid the soda, drink lots of water. Basically what everyone else says. Personally I hate soda...hope Lst2 doesn't spite me. :uhoh:
It's great if you can join a gym or health club. I run for about 30 min everyday, and strength train for about 1 hr, 3 days out of the week. I also box on a regular basis, so I consider that my cardiovascular workout. I'm considered healthy, according to my doctor, so I guess I'm doing good. :D I'm 5'4 and weigh 152 lbs. (I'm not shy :) ) Which according to my age and height is supposedly overweight, but if you take a good look at me you wouldn't believe I weigh that much. :twitch: Losing weight is not my goal at the moment.
Basically, as long as you eat the right kind of foods and stay active, then that gut is sure to go away in no time. Everyone's advice here is very helpful, and try to find an exercise that fits your body and lifestyle. To me the hardest part is motivation, but once you do it you'll be feeling great! ^_^

p.s. If you like to dance, even better. DDR does work.

:D

momojigari

2004-04-28, 20:17

Plenty of Good ideas in this thread.

I can't really say how important it is to let go of "soda pop". This thing is soo bad for you specially with that artificial sweetners that they put in. WATER is the key. I guess its been mentioned 1000x already..but let me be the 1001th time and say that Jogging, running or speed walking is good for your heart.

Now in terms of food. Well being in the oriental background, we cannot survive without rice. So it just depends on how well you can manage without carbs. Protein is good too..but always remember that too much of a good thing can also be a bad thing.

finally, perhaps the hardest part is motivation..just keep in mind why you want to do this and stick that somewhere in your mind when you become lazy one day.

cheers!

Slade xTekno

2004-04-28, 22:42

Try to swim rather than run. It works out every muscle in your body and doesn't stress the joints as much. My friend lost 50 lbs after joining a swim team. Really creepy.
If you're still in school, join the swim team. You may not participate in the meets, but that daily swimming will cut fat.
I eat a lot of rice, too. Strangly, it raises your estrogen level [which may explain why most Asians are so skinny].

Noxid

2004-04-29, 00:18

Well i'd just like to chime in and say that since last x-mas(not this just past but before that one) i've gone from 350 to 260 and i feel better than ever.. it wont stop here tho now that i got more energy i'll be more inclined to get out and be more active.... now heres the funny thing , onec i got my mind(and heart) set on the plan it was easy.. i told myself to eat when and only when my body say "hey put food in me" and only eat till i felt comfy not full.. another lil' funny note i've preety much be liveing on instant ramen and microwaved hotdogs LOL (i'm a 20y/o student money is scarce) but once money is more readily aviable i should have better more healthy food which will aid me in my quest...
i guess what all that up there ^^^^ really means is if u make it the most important thing to you u can do it...

ps. please no flames about my weight.. i mean come on ppl we are all the same inside and how would you feel :p

Asura

2004-04-29, 03:04

prior to my teen years... I usually ate like 5 bowls of rice per meal.... rice is that good... but then my list of outdoor activities were high, bicycling everyday, swimming every weekend, etc...

lately though, even when I feel really hungry, I can't even get over 2 bowls.... i dunno, been missing lunch break lately... and no breakfast..

5'11", 180lbs.. balanced the engine just nice, adding only 15lbs to the ride.

llama

2007-03-06, 22:31

Ok, I wouldn't say I have "gut" exactly, but I didn't feel like starting a new thread for the sake of a title change. :P

I already know what you have to do to lose weight: Exercise, eating right. It's not a big secret. But what I have a question about is what sort of things might cause a person to gain weight. And I don't mean just pigging out all the time or playing tetris 24/7, because obviously that would do it.

Here is the problem: I recently moved away from home and am living at a university now. I do A TON of walking here, and since I am a poor student paying my own bills, I also eat less than I did at home. Plus I go up and down stairs multiple times a day just going to and from classes and back and forth from my apartment. By all logic, I should be losing weight. BUT! Somehow I gained 5 pounds since I've been here. *llama is not happy*

Does anyone know why that might be? If I'm eating less and getting lots of exercise, I shouldn't be gaining weight. :upset: Is there something in addition I should be doing to keep it off? I don't think it would be healthy for me to eat less than I already am, and I thought walking was already one of the best exercises to take weight off. I'm so confused. @_@ I don't want to be a chubby college student! *weeps* T_T

Any suggestions?

Veritas

2007-03-06, 23:21

What kind of foods are you eating? Obviously, walking around campus isn't going to make much of a difference if all you eat are snack foods and hot pockets and such. I've always been fairly dubious about the claim that walking was one of the best exercises for weight loss. I think it's mostly just because it's a very basic thing, and many people eschew it in favor of driving. Try jogging or at least speedwalking if a backpack makes jogging too difficult.

If you're gaining weight, you could be building muscle mass, which weighs more than fat. So the scale may show you as being heavier, but you're still leaner than you were before. Female bodybuilders weigh a lot, but no one would call them fat. Also,

If you have time, see if your college has a health center and go to it. Lift weights as well as doing cardio, as muscle takes more to metabolize than fat, so you'll lose more weight. Eat lots of vegetables, lean meat, and whole wheat starches.

Aoie_Emesai

2007-03-07, 00:07

Stop eating....

or you could try my method which involves being to lazy to get up and prepare food.

LOL! I don't think thats a very good idea. A good work out and proper diet is the best way. Or maybe liposuction.

What kind of foods are you eating? Obviously, walking around campus isn't going to make much of a difference if all you eat are snack foods and hot pockets and such. I've always been fairly dubious about the claim that walking was one of the best exercises for weight loss. I think it's mostly just because it's a very basic thing, and many people eschew it in favor of driving. Try jogging or at least speedwalking if a backpack makes jogging too difficult.

If you're gaining weight, you could be building muscle mass, which weighs more than fat. So the scale may show you as being heavier, but you're still leaner than you were before. Female bodybuilders weigh a lot, but no one would call them fat. Also,

If you have time, see if your college has a health center and go to it. Lift weights as well as doing cardio, as muscle takes more to metabolize than fat, so you'll lose more weight. Eat lots of vegetables, lean meat, and whole wheat starches.

Hotpockets are so good though. ^_^

[DOT].L

2007-03-07, 01:22

I'm surprised that no-one's made a crack at Subway yet.

raikage

2007-03-07, 01:49

Jinto

2007-03-07, 04:28

...

Here is the problem: I recently moved away from home and am living at a university now. I do A TON of walking here, and since I am a poor student paying my own bills, I also eat less than I did at home. Plus I go up and down stairs multiple times a day just going to and from classes and back and forth from my apartment. By all logic, I should be losing weight. BUT! Somehow I gained 5 pounds since I've been here. *llama is not happy*

...

There exist several possible explanations.
The afore mentioned gain of muscle is one.
There is temperature. When it is too warm, metabolism burns less energy.
There is gain in water in the cells. Though I would not recommend to drink less in order to get rid of it. There is no healthy way to get rid of it, that I know. Maybe usin more salt in the food, but that is unhealthy afaik.
Using a different scales (though a meassurment difference of 5 pounds is rather unlikely :heh: )
Pregnancy (joke :D )
Psychological reasons, but I know next to nothing in this field :heh:
Medication like e.g. cortisone (which results in gain in water in cells again).
And some others, that did not come to my mind in my brain storming attempt.

Though I think your sorrows are unjustified. I don't think 5 pounds harm your marvelous looks.

edit:

Happy Birthday llama :D if I only knew earlier

Kempis Curious

2007-03-07, 10:57

By all logic, I should be losing weight. BUT! Somehow I gained 5 pounds since I've been here. *llama is not happy*

As your teenaged years are getting further away, your body is trying to gain mass and strength for carrying and controlling the two or three children you're supposed to have now. :heh: You'll be fighting nature if you want to retain a young shape, with the added modern problem of calories being very easy to get. :upset: On the bright side, it's a lot less stressful to lose weight than to worry about if we can feed ourselves and our families like our ancestors did. :)

I recently decided to lose weight after Anime Expo... in my Gundam officer's uniform I looked way too chubby! A disgrace to the uniform. :heh: I've lost 20 pounds so far, going from 210 to 190. I still want to lose 12 pounds more; that will take me out of the "overweight" section of the BMI index for a 5'11" dude.

How I'm doing it... (the Otaku Diet)
We otaku like scientific stuff, so you need to keep track of what you eat for a week or two, and then calculate how many calories you're eating in a day. Use the internet to find out how many calories are in foods which don't have a label. ( If you're like me you'll be surprised at how consistant your daily intake is. :) )
The next step is to determine how many calories you burn each day. This is based mostly on how much you weigh.... google around to find this.
The last step is to reduce your calories by how much you want to lose. A healthy weight loss for a not-so-fat guy like me is 2-3 pounds per month, so I had to reduce my caloric intake by around 150-200 calories... a surprisingly small amount, like small bag of potato chips. (But until I got used to it, even that small reduction would often wake me up at night... my body telling me to go eat something! Weird. )

As for excersize.... I don't get much excersize anymore... otaku's don't excersize! :D In fact, last year I trained for a Mud Run at the local Marine base, and I didn't lose any weight. I got more fit, but still put on fat from all of the food I was eating.

If you want to excersize, a good motivation for an anime nut is a movie player which could be rested on a treadmill so you can watch anime while working out. I used a Nintendo DS with a Supercard.

-k

curious

cheyannew

2007-03-07, 11:09

You do realize that gaining weight is not necessarily a bad thing...

Since I started lifting weights, etc a year ago, I've not lost a single pound; heck, I've GAINED some - but I've gone down at least a size, if not 2 (refuse to buy new pants until I'm all done lol). When I tripped out about my numbers not changing, my trainer calmly reminded me that muscle is heavier than fat, and so long as my clothes fit better to stop worrying about it :)

But as for midsection, short of a tummytuck (lipo doesn't help much depending, since you get flabby skin leftover), the only way to slim THAT is cardio; 20-30 minutes a day. Also, get off the sodas, and extra sugars. Carbs in small doses aren't bad, either, just don't eat a bunch of fries with every meal. Protein bars/shakes are often used by people as their "snacks" because they fill you up, and are low in carbs/sugars/etc. Some great ones are the Power Crunch bars at bodybuilder.com becuase they're like chocolate of vanilla coated cookies :) I love the triple chocolate ones & the french vanilla creme ones :)

Also everyone's body loses fat in different ways; mine? I lost part of my chest first (sigh), now it's workingon my legs (yay) and eventuall yit'll get to my midsection (a reversal of that orderwould've been nice, but oh well). So you may have to busy your behind for a year or two :)

Tommy

2007-03-07, 23:34

Llama unfortuantly it's the "fresh 15" that you're experiencing, all college kids go through it and theirs not much you can do about it. Just kidding. :p

Everyone has offered good advice and all I have to offer is, eat 5-6 small meals a day, cut sugar, trans fat and sat fats, eat lots of protein, complex carbs, fruits and vegies. Exercise and be active in your everyday life and you'll be good.

Kittie Rose

2007-03-08, 08:43

If you're a girl, don't.

Fat chicks are sexy :cool:

Contempt

2007-03-08, 10:12

I used to be around 15/16 stone... I'm around 6'1" so it's not tremendously huge but still uncomfortable...
Now what I did was eat the same thing, no snacking, cut out all other drinks aside from lots and lots of water... Then excercise everyday... Many have said it but one can't reiterate it enough... I'm now a comfortable and supposedly ideal for my height and structure 13 and a half stone. It took a long and painful year but it turned out to be great fun. If you can get a friend to work out with you, believe me the moral support works wonders.
Also get yourself an mp3 player or something, listen to that while you work out, I've found that music can often distract the mind while you work out and it makes the process almost painless... As another point, it may seemed cliched but no pain, no gain... The first time you work out, and I mean really work out it's going to hurt like hell... (unless your wised up before-hand and stretch properly >.> [you can guess what I forgot to do]) But keep at it, your body will get used to it in time.

However in my limited experience... Dieting rarely lasts... If you decide to go for a diet, a: seek medical advice first b: make sure it is one that you can stick with. The most common issue with diets is that people will shed some of the weight and then after losing that weight they will just go back to eating what they used to. Then that tyre falls around your waist within what seems like minutes.

Anyway I'm sure most of this has been already said, but I thought I'd weigh in some personal experience.

Kempis Curious

2007-03-08, 11:00

When I tripped out about my numbers not changing, my trainer calmly reminded me that muscle is heavier than fat, and so long as my clothes fit better to stop worrying about it :)

That's true... there was a recent study that says your waistline is a better predictor of health than your weight. See here: BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3737064.stm). To summarize it, men with a waistline greater than 40 inches and women greater than 35 inches are in great risk of diabetes and heart disease. There is also a significant increase in risk if your waistline is 37 for men and 32 for women. It's interesting that height or muscular build does not play a part in this.

I'm at 36 inches myself, I need to get down to 33 :upset:. Bleah....
I wish there were some way to spot reduce fat with situps or something, but I know that's impossible... it would be like trying to spot-reduce the amount of water in the middle of a well by scooping halfway down. If situps worked to make your stomach smaller, fat people would have a thin face from eating all of the time. :D

-k

curious

WanderingKnight

2007-03-08, 12:39

I've never had any problems with my weight. I've been blessed with a natural skinny body (too skinny if you think about it...), and been weighing 52-55 kilograms for the past 5 years (that's like 120 pounds), with a height of 1.70 meters (no idea how much that is in Imperial). Of course, I haven't been building up weight because I'm a lazy bastard :D

Been thinking of joining for some lessons of Iaidou, but given that it's a "ceremonial"-kind of martial art, it won't mean too much exercise to my body :heh: But I need to grab some kind of exercise, now that high school PE time has ended for good :heh:

Knightmare213

2007-03-08, 20:25

All my life, now at the tender age of 18, I've been fat most of my life.

I started to get fat around my elementary school years. After I immigrated to Canada, my Overweight-status was upped to Obese after being hit by a car and bedded for three months (therefore, missing most of my first Canadian winter), and no, this doesn't count the five additional months of physiotherapy.

Compared to what I look like now, my body fat percentage was about 32-35% and waistline of 42 at the ages between 15-17. After going to an expensive gym (not knowing that my own high school had its own gym) for a few months, my body fat was reduced to 24-26% and waistline to 38 inches. However, since it was about a year the last time I've been to the gym, I lost some muscle, but amazingly, my waistline went to 36 inches and its holding there so far.

I'm five-foot-eight (about 172cm), at about 195 pounds (or 89 kg) as I post this. Starting tomorrow, I can finally jog again because the temperature in Toronto is finally warming up. Hopefully, I'll be a morning person once more as soon as I turn the morning jog a bloody habit.

In my opinion, to be in shape is to jog twice in a day (two short ones: one in the morning, one in the afternoon) and have a good diet. And when I say the word "diet", I don't mean cutting off the calorific count by half (like I had once in the past) or by more. Have a balanced diet plan and when in doubt, consult a health and food magazine offering professional advice.

However, if you can't follow up a diet and/or frequent jogging...there's always the military. I'm planning to join the Canadian Forces for three reasons: to be in shape, to make money (and to pay for my college tuitions), and for the experience. As I heard from my friend who went through the military training, he says that you'll get paid good money, you'll gain important experience that can be used in real life, and while the military feed you a lot of food, the Drill Instructors will work you out like a bitch.

llama

2007-03-09, 11:41

What kind of foods are you eating?
Hmm...well, now that I think about it, it's been mostly pasta, since it's cheaper. Which may be the problem. :heh:

There is temperature. When it is too warm, metabolism burns less energy.
There is gain in water in the cells.
Definitely not that. The warmest it's been since I've been up here is 60 degrees. o_O
Pregnancy (joke :D )
Hahah. We can definitely rule that one out. :P

As your teenaged years are getting further away, your body is trying to gain mass and strength for carrying and controlling the two or three children you're supposed to have now. :heh:
Aw. Can't I tell my body to wait until after I'm married before it starts doing that? :heh: The closest thing I have to kids right now are my llamas! And no amount of strength is going to get me to carry them.

If you want to excersize, a good motivation for an anime nut is a movie player which could be rested on a treadmill so you can watch anime while working out. I used a Nintendo DS with a Supercard.
Yes! Music is a life saver! I was going to the gym last semester and the few times I forgot my mp3 player were torture.

Since I started lifting weights, etc a year ago, I've not lost a single pound; heck, I've GAINED some - but I've gone down at least a size, if not 2 (refuse to buy new pants until I'm all done lol). When I tripped out about my numbers not changing, my trainer calmly reminded me that muscle is heavier than fat, and so long as my clothes fit better to stop worrying about it :)

Well, maybe it is muscle, because I haven't noticed any of my clothes fitting tighter except in one area, which is not an area I'm complaining about. :heh: Heeey...maybe that's where some of the weight it coming from, actually. :twitch:

How is all that going for you, by the way? I never thought you looked fat to begin with, but I'll bet you're absolutely smokin' now! :D
Llama unfortuantly it's the "fresh 15" that you're experiencing, all college kids go through it and theirs not much you can do about it. Just kidding. :p

But I'm not a freshman! I'm a junior. T_T

If you're a girl, don't.

Fat chicks are sexy :cool:
Heh. But what if I look like this?
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/2279/msofatcn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sorry. I'm no good with photoshop. Someone else could have made it more convincing, I'm sure.
That's true... there was a recent study that says your waistline is a better predictor of health than your weight. See here: BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3737064.stm). To summarize it, men with a waistline greater than 40 inches and women greater than 35 inches are in great risk of diabetes and heart disease. There is also a significant increase in risk if your waistline is 37 for men and 32 for women. It's interesting that height or muscular build does not play a part in this.

Hmmm....well, my waist is just under 25 inches, but I have no idea what's normal for a girl of my height. It seems like a little bit too much to me. I looked for a chart, but I couldn't find one. Maybe I was just using the wrong search terms? Does anyone know where I can find one?

I'm five-foot-eight (about 172cm), at about 195 pounds (or 89 kg) as I post this. Starting tomorrow, I can finally jog again because the temperature in Toronto is finally warming up. Hopefully, I'll be a morning person once more as soon as I turn the morning jog a bloody habit.

Good luck! :) I hope you can meet all your goals.

Thanks for all the advice, everyone.

animefanrk2k

2007-03-09, 12:59

To summarize it, men with a waistline greater than 40 inches and women greater than 35 inches are in great risk of diabetes and heart disease. There is also a significant increase in risk if your waistline is 37 for men and 32 for women. It's interesting that height or muscular build does not play a part in this.

Hmm... and I always thought that being 5' 8" to 6' 0" (depending on who you talk to about my height =P) with a 32-34in waist was big. o_0

For me personally, I absolutely adore sugar, so I can't stay away from it, no matter how hard I try. :heh:

Now, I couldn't just eat sweets and snacks until I became a bloated bear, right? Well, luckily, all that sugar gives me a more or less constant state of sugar rush. Combine that with any sport/martial art/excersize, and you have a strange win-win-lose scenario. (My diet isn't balanced with lots of sweets, so that's my loss. XD)

On another note, I actually started to eat healthier and I haven't been gaining any fat at all. It's not all talk, the "you are what you eat" line.

raikage

2007-03-09, 20:15

Hmmm....well, my waist is just under 25 inches, but I have no idea what's normal for a girl of my height. It seems like a little bit too much to me. I looked for a chart, but I couldn't find one. Maybe I was just using the wrong search terms? Does anyone know where I can find one?

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20050606/waist-height-ratio-may-show-heart-disease-risk
To figure out what your waist should be for your height, take your height in inches and multiply it by 0.55 for men and 0.53 for women. That will give you a fairly good idea of the upper limit of a healthy waistline (in inches) for you.

But I would still recommend getting your body fat percentage checked out, if weight gain seems to be troubling you.

Zaris

2007-03-10, 13:10

I've started going to the local gym 4 times a week since August last year. I can say that it has totally helped me out. Looking back at my graduation photos (I graduated last year), I can't tell you how awful I looked. My face was so fat! I was 5'9" (175 centimeters) and pushing 180 lbs. (81 kilograms) since I spent my whole days in college studying or playing MMO for hours on end in my room outside campus. The first two years, I walked my way to class everyday, but the last two living out of the university was mostly bus and going to class after stopping didn't take long.

The first few days were exhausting to say the least since I had to get my muscles out of that atrophic stage. That's like the hardest part of starting to get into shape, since it had been a long time since I had given my body any serious workout. Don't let that give you up. Once your body is adjusted to routine training, that soreness in your arms or legs goes away (usually about 2 weeks).

Spend one day working on chest, back, and legs and the next day on biceps, triceps, shoulders, and legs. Hence why I go 4 times a week (Monday-Tuesday, Thursday-Friday). Every week or two weeks, increase the weights of the machines you're working on by about 5%. I spend about 50-60 minutes on various machines and then another 12 minutes on the treadmill. I run a mile every day and then walk fifth of a mile for cooldown.

It's been seven months and I'm 165 lbs. (75 kilograms). My fat percentage dropped from 14 to 8%. I'm loving it.

Of course, this isn't to say eating isn't important. One should eat five times a day (breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner). The normal intake of calories of breakfast, lunch, and dinner s hould be reduced. The idea is instead of taking 3 big meals a day, you take 5 little ones to keep your body in a somewhat full state. And here's a trick: if you're feeling hungry, drink a glass of water. Sometimes your body fools those receptors to thinking you're hungry when you're really not. Drink a glass and see afterwards if you really are dying for food.

I am Chinese. My mom and dad cooks several dishes for us at night. Just eating half of it is more than I should be intaking at night. It sure confused my mom when I would leave the table having barely touched anything. But it was worth it. Simply put: if you don't feel hungry, you've eaten enough.

Just my $0.02.

psycho bolt

2007-03-10, 14:20

Curses I can't gain any weight!

WanderingKnight

2007-03-10, 18:38

Of course, this isn't to say eating isn't important. One should eat five times a day (breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner).

There's something quite strange about me with how many meals a day I eat, because whenever we have dinner or lunch, I eat very little (compared to what other people may consider 'normal'), mainly because my family has the costume of eating little. However, one or two hours after a meal I get hungry again, and I can keep on eating snacks for as long as two hours (depending on what I'm doing, if I'm slacking around at my house, I'm probably with a bag of snacks in my hand ^^). If I don't eat anything for an hour before our next meal, then my stomach is empty enough to allow me to eat as I normally eat.

But yeah, I'm basically eating all day long, slacking around all day long (well, not anymore because of my stupid job >.>) and not gaining a single pound o.O.

Maybe that'll change once my teenager days are over.

Sazelyt

2007-03-10, 19:01

Hmm...well, now that I think about it, it's been mostly pasta, since it's cheaper. Which may be the problem. :heh: If you want to eat cheap and healthy food, you can try lentil (not the soup version, more like cooked rice version). It is quite cheap, preparing is easy (just place it into microwave with water, and let it cook until it absorbs the water), high protein, low calorie (you can also mix it with fat-free sour cream/yogurt to improve the quality of your food intake).

Also, eating stuff of pasta/bread nature regularly (at low amounts) is also suggested because of reducing the hunger. And, I don't know if you count your daily calorie intake, but if you had reduced it below 1200, that might be another reason for not losing weight.

Deathkillz

2007-03-10, 19:40

Maybe that'll change once my teenager days are over.
yea...methinks when your metabolism slows down and that energy is no longer used for "growth" in your teens then the excess rubbish will just be stored in all parts of your body...especially the heart :uhoh:

basically the idea is to be active somewat...luck me going to school i have at least 3 times a week where i do sports :heh: a great idea that i have is that i should wire up my computer to a cycling machine ~ so no peddling = no computer for my lazy ass :heh:

kayos

2007-03-11, 00:47

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/2279/msofatcn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tell me you didn't watch the video tape... did you?

Kempis Curious

2007-03-11, 11:31

yea...methinks when your metabolism slows down and that energy is no longer used for "growth" in your teens

True dat, my father and three brothers were thin until they reached their mid-twenties. Two of them then joined the military, which forced them to lose a lot of weight and cleared up some health conditions like sleep apnea.

They used to make fun of my cute little pot belly when we were kids. :D But by the time my brothers got fat, I was too old and mature to say "Neener neener, fatass." :upset:

Uso desu. I did it anyways. :p

-k

curious

Kimura-sensei

2007-03-11, 18:38

Putting my two cents in... many of the things you guys said is exactly what I recommend. Here's some more helpful tips:

It's all about how many calories you ingest and how much you exercise.

Dieting alone won't accomplish your goals. You need to do some form of exercise. If you can't stand the gym or exercise, find another activity that you don't interpret in your brain as exercise. Play some sports, do line dancing, DDR, martial arts, etc. I hate exercise myself, but I do Tae Kwon Do.

One of the most important things you must do is eat a big breakfast. Make sure you ingest enough protein and vitamin B's to start your day. Studies shown that those who are overweight always skip breakfast while those who are fit always eat breakfast. And as others have said, it's important to eat many small meals throughout the day because you want to stabilize your glucose level and it helps stabilize and boost your metabolism.

The other important tip for losing weight... make sure you eat a HEALTHY balanced meal that's filled with nutrition and vitamins. Did you know that a good portion of overweight people are actually suffering from malnutrition? It's true because fast food usually don't have sufficient nutritions and their body is telling them to eat more to gain more nutrition, unfortunately they're typically eating more fast food garbage. Avoid foods that have trans fatty acids which usually labeled as partially hydrogenated (blank) oils and avoid high fructose corn syrup which is prevalent in many of our foods as a sweetener. Trans fatty acids are bad for you because it's artificial and your body has no idea how to properly process it. HFCS is evil because since it's fructose, it gets converted directly into fat. On top of that, HFCS doesn't trigger your fat cells to produce the hormone leptin which plays an important role of telling your brain that you've ingested enough nutrition. Meaning, you can drink all the soda you want, but you'll never feel nutritiously full... you'll stop when you become physically full. So, treat soda or juices like beer... empty calories.

Try eating more organic veggies. There are significant vitamins, antioxidants, minerals, and many others that help significantly boost your metabolism. People have been known to lose weight off organic foods because they also avoid chemicals, antibiotics, and hormones present in our foods today which also further confuses our body on how to properly process the food.