Is there going to be a new FMP series?

[Full Metal Jackass]

so any one speak Japanese? any one in Japan? some one get some info all this speculation is killing me. every time a new season of anime comes up it starts all over, and once more we are going down that road. sure it could come up in the fall, i mean they haven't announced any thing right? well some one does know. someone somewhere on this planet knows for a fact if FMP will start up in the fall. I say we get a little more proactive here and do a little brainstorming about how we can get this info from this person and let everyone else know because i just don't think that i can handle watching the first three seasons once more. so thats what i have lets start the discussion..........
































......now

[sr7olsniper]

Most likely the voice cast know (they are probaly working on it lmao) but besides that i doubt anyone in this forum really knows, otherwise they would have posted it already.

[Full Metal Jackass]

exactly we all know none of us know but we also know that they know so what can we do to get the info from them. perhaps a community paypal account intended for greasing palms and paying for info. or maybe we could find someone in japan to pose as a reporter and ask some questions, or i just thought of this one we could use the paypal account to find a sexy women and pay her to seduce someone and get the info that way.

[Revalent]

What we know is, we are all in ths together.. waiting.. long... YES WE ARE NOT ALONE!!!

[sr7olsniper]

OMFG... We are all in this together and now i keep thinking of zac efron... GG!!!!

[Ascaloth]

Zac Efron as Sousuke is definitely a no-no....but if you think about it, he just might work as Kurz Weber. :D

[velvet nightmare]

if they dont continue the main story line, kyoani or whoever could at least do something with the side stories

im pretty sure fumoffu was a success but come on, it's been so long for crying out loud

[sr7olsniper]

Definetely. We want a new series no matter what it may be. A fumoffu style series would be really good!!!

[Solidus1321]

Agree fumoffu alone would be great, I still would love the main story line to keep going, but fumoffu was just funny as hell and I feel that it ended to quick, The rugby episode still cracks me up after I have watched it for the 6th time.

[Full Metal Jackass]

i feel we are getting of topic here we need to be discussing how we can contact someone in the know and get said knowledge from them.

[sr7olsniper]

i feel we are getting of topic here we need to be discussing how we can contact someone in the know and get said knowledge from them.

That is stretching it out too far. Doubt anyone here has means to contact someone involved in production, otherwise a true fan would have already posted it. If the producers, ppl most likely interested in money, are keeping quiet its because they dont want the public to know.

On another note, yah i LOVE the rugby episode it s definetely my favorite of all.

[Full Metal Jackass]

i feel yea i guess i am frustrated at the lack of info out there. i don't get why they would want to keep it a secret.

on the other note the rugby was the best fumoffu fosho

[velvet nightmare]

you think maybe they're waiting to see how that dragon ball crap does for a LAM and judge whether or not FMP might be worth investing in?

[sr7olsniper]

Well, we are talking about a new series rather than a LAM. Dragonball LA or how i like to call it, BALLS EVOLUTION, cuz it was pure gayness, was a fail so i doubt they will get much money back. I did read a while back on this forums that on the Blu-ray comments a voice actor hinted somethng about a new series, but that was it. I am pretty sure they will come with a new series sometime soon, probabaly to commemorate book 11 (just a whisful thought lol)

[Revalent]

OMFG... We are all in this together and now i keep thinking of zac efron... GG!!!!

Haha, apparently when i said that phrase, I didn't even gave a thought about that guy, maybe because I don't give a shit about HSM, let alone listen and watch it.

[acr429]

I feel that this series has to be done(meaning the the entire novel has to be put in anime form) if is not then some other studio will do it. It is just a matter of time I would like it to be done soon, but don't know if that will happen. let's just wait for the last novel, hope for a GOOD ending. I hope to not see a time lapse ending or one of the 2 main characters die. I know it would be cliche to have the 2 main characters stay together, but the author has the opportunity to do it in a creative way. the novel's have been great and this is my all time favorite novel that cam eout of japan. Well see how it ends.

[sr7olsniper]

Well from the start everthing has lead to a "cliche" ending. That is the whole point of it, love blooms even on a battle field (yah i know, Metal gear solid quote).

[The Quack-man]

i feel we are getting of topic here we need to be discussing how we can contact someone in the know and get said knowledge from them.

That is stretching it out too far. Doubt anyone here has means to contact someone involved in production, otherwise a true fan would have already posted it. If the producers, ppl most likely interested in money, are keeping quiet its because they dont want the public to know.



Why don't you guys contact Kyoto Animation Studio, the most excellent creators of Fumoffu & TSR, yourselves:

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/

Be prepared, because once the page loads up you will be assaulted with Japanese text & Kyoani's merchandise.
Down in the right corner of the page is the Studio's email:

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/mail/index.html

Be aware that if you do decide to email Kyoani, you will need to fill in all of your details in the correct boxes for your email to be received. Sounds easy, but it's pretty hard when Instructions are in Japanese (or at worst random characters if your operating system does not have a foreign translator installed).
Sometimes, a couple of days/weeks later you will receive a reply in Engrish - basically stating that someone more senior will reply back "to question in short time".

lol if you guys had read back to a couple of months ago, you would have seen that I had posted the above email link for people to post their questions to, so does that make me a 'true fan'?

[Revalent]

Did u email them yourself?

[Kovikow]

I sent them an email months ago to that address, to plz continue it LOL. :D well i guess the point is to make them see more fan contact w/ them about FMP.. But we soo cant know anything in the Kyoani background there, if there is anything at all, are there even talking about making a new series or not..

[slash502]

i emailed them also, to those who are truly lazy :), just go to the 2nd link which our friend the Quack Man have provided, which is:

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/mail/index.html

click on any of the two blue links, it will take you to the email composition page,

first blank, your name

second blank, your email address

third, is of course your "OMFG GIVE US MORE FMP NOW" battle cry hehe




this will definitely show some demand, if thousands of fans do the same thing, it would only make sense for kyoani to at least plan to make more fmp.

[Full Metal Jackass]

i emailed them also, to those who are truly lazy :), just go to the 2nd link which our friend the Quack Man have provided, which is:

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/mail/index.html

click on any of the two blue links, it will take you to the email composition page,

first blank, your name

second blank, your email address

third, is of course your "OMFG GIVE US MORE FMP NOW" battle cry hehe




this will definitely show some demand, if thousands of fans do the same thing, it would only make sense for kyoani to at least plan to make more fmp.

Done and Done

[Full Metal Coast]

Same just done mine

[ztech]

I love this anime and I went to buy it.

But, it's goddamn expensive! Complete rip-off!

£25 for each of the 3 seasons!

If it was £25 for all 3, I wouldnt have mind. But , this is a rip-off.. off to be a pirate and download!

ADV FILMS need to rethink

[ztech]

i emailed them also, to those who are truly lazy :), just go to the 2nd link which our friend the Quack Man have provided, which is:

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/mail/index.html

click on any of the two blue links, it will take you to the email composition page,

first blank, your name

second blank, your email address

third, is of course your "OMFG GIVE US MORE FMP NOW" battle cry hehe




this will definitely show some demand, if thousands of fans do the same thing, it would only make sense for kyoani to at least plan to make more fmp.

Done. ...........

[Full Metal Coast]

na its worth it i bought all three seasons and ive definately got my moneys worth out of it by how many time ive rewatched the series but still every time i get to the end of TSR i get more and more pissed off that there is no fourth season and the novels are still not finished

[sr7olsniper]

haha yah, i feel you. Its the same for me. No matter how many times i watch all 3 seasons plus the Tessa OVA i end up all depressed that there is nothign else after them. At least i get to read Shutazen's translations and taht keeps me up

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I think you guys should not email them anymore because it will not work. You just gotta hope that fmp is coming. It sucks to that there has not been any info at all about the anime.

[ztech]

Is this for movie or series?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1412438/

[Full Metal Jackass]

^^ for the movie, it has been covered check back a few pages.

[musume_no_hoshi]

By looking at the DVD sales thread

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=60985&highlight=DVD+sales

TSR had around 4-6k sales per volume. Haruhi had around 40k PER volume, Lucky Star is around 25k. KyoAni doesn't really make alot of money from FMP compared to what they're animating now. Even Key animes sold AT LEAST 10k, like Kanon (as much as I love AIR and Clannad, Kanon was pretty boring...). But FMP has a more global audience, they can easily sell quite a few licenses.

I did some VERY rough calculations, using average figures, 12 episode series, with 6 volumes of DVD, $40 per volume, $24,000 overseas license per episode. If a moe series sells 20k (such as K-on...considering the singles sold 60k, the DVD/Blu-ray would sell very well too) per volume in Japan, it would would generate $4,800,000. If FMP imaginary season 4 would sell 6k per volume, and license to 5 country (if the US license costs $24k, then I count other 5 countries as $10k per episode), it would generate $2,328,000. I'm using dollars because the numbers are smaller then japanese yen, so it's easier to count. In terms of money, it would be smarter to animate a moe series, there are more crazy fanboys who would buy the DVDs AND it is cheaper to animate too. FMP has quite alot of mechs, explosions and battles, probally making it harder and more expensive to animate.

/crawls back to her hole for doing such lame calculations

Why would KyoAni make a new FMP series then? Kadokawa pays them to pay it, so they're not taking any risks. Or (which I think they should) to prove that they can animate mechs and anime with more men then female in it -gasps-.

Yes, I like my numbers. I like my facts and figures. But then considering KyoAni's fame is much higher now, they might attract new DVDs buyers, so they could break the 10k barrier with a Fumoffu season. The Blu-Ray for TSR must be selling well, or else they wouldn't have made the orginal and Fumuffu in blu-ray right?

Meh...I really want KyoAni to animate more FMP. FMP produced in HD would be lovely. I just marathoned TSR yesterday, and I never ever thought in my wildest dream that KyoAni can animate a normal mecha anime...with more oji-sans then girls. Nor I would ever thought FMP would make me cry either. Considering they probally wouldn't lose money from making more FMP, but just make less money, there should be some chances.

But hey...look at how Kadokawa troll haruhiist...imagine how they would torture us..FMP-fans (Is there a word for FMP-fans?)

£25 per season isn't so bad...when the japanese spend around $60 PER volume, which is around £40. Hearing that it is £25...I'm quite temped to get the DVDs...since I'm importing Nana Mizuki's new album for £28...£25 for a whole series sounds quite good for me. :heh: But the thing is...I downloaded a blu-ray rip...I probally get the DVD for the sake of supporting.

-Please note- As negative as I sound in this post, I love KyoAni's moe shows. :uhoh:

[Full Metal Jackass]

^^^ I don't like you

[masterwok]

well the problem with fmp is that it involves war that looks like in our time of history which would be deterred because people dont want to see war that looks like the present day i guess. so the sales are not going to improve i think. it also has to deal with how kyoto deals with advertising

[itisjustme]

Is there anything that says it has to be Kyoto Animation? Give it to I.G. or Madhouse or whoever.

Truth to tell I find myself not caring anymore now, the same way as the Sekai no Senki franchise. If something new comes out I'll be cheering, but won't hold my breath.

[musume_no_hoshi]

Didn't TSR got animated by KyoAni because fans and the author liked how they handled Fumoffu or something? Since I'm totally biased, I would like KyoAni to do the rest...

To be honest, I never thought of another animation company doing it. If Gonzo does a fumoffu season, I'll liked to see the director of Seto no Hanayome. Getting another company to do a continuation seems a little odd, but it isn't impossible. But the thing about FMP anime probally wouldn't make alot of money would stay true, unless sales sky rockets to at least 10k.

At the end of the day, I guess any animation company can do it. KyoAni was like unknown when Fumoffu was announced. The most important is a decent budget and a good director.

I better start hunting for the novels in chinese, I'll probally try and find the short stories ones. Since I can barely read the normal story one in english, I doubt I can understand it in chinese. -stares at self who found Shana too hard to read in chinese-

[itisjustme]

Well, it's true that there's probably too many intermediaries and not enough of a fanbase to make a seizable profit off this for anyone.

That said, if Kadokawa already holds the rights, better for them to do something with rather than letting it go to waste no? And given that Kyoani is already pretty firmly established in another niche market, with presumably expertise to go in that direction (we saw what happened when they tried something else ala Munto), it'd make sense to hand the production to someone else, maybe a company/director looking to build up credibility/reputation/fanbase and willing to take the risk. At least that's what I think.

[musume_no_hoshi]

The thing with Munto was that it was original, instead of an adaption. I managed to watched EVERY episode of Munto, there was some good scenes and the eye candies was loveleh, but the script was awful. The story wasn't that great either.

KyoAni used FMP as their stepping stone, it's possible that another 'kyoani' might also use it as a stepping stone. I just don't see why KyoAni WANTS to make more FMP for financial reason. Gonzo seems to notice that moe/panties = sales. Such as Rosario + panty and strike panties.

K-on isn't a visual arts nor kadokawa product, it seems to me that KyoAni is trying to get a larger size of the pie. They were going to adapt 801-chan (I'm still crying that it got canceled) From the look from wikipedia, Houbunsha seems to be much smaller compared to kadokawa, to me, KyoAni seems trying to run away from the hands of large evil corporations. The long delayed of Haruhi seems to be caused by friction between KyoAni and Kadokawa, but obviously we wouldn't know. Once Haruhi 2 aired, then I can start dreaming of an imaginative season 4.

I say Kadokawa doesn't want FMP to be a ruined francise, I mean it gained quite a decent overseas fanbase, even if the japanese fanbased isn't very large. So I guess they wouldn't just hand it to a nobody...I mean when I was a noobie anime fan who went and shouting kawai and baka around, I knew there was an anime called FMP before there was something called Naruto and Bleach. :uhoh:

[Deadwings]

By looking at the DVD sales thread

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=60985&highlight=DVD+sales

-sip-

:eyespin::eyespin::eyespin: I'm lost, too many numbers! :p but in short, you have hopes, that's good :)

well the problem with fmp is that it involves war that looks like in our time of history which would be deterred because people dont want to see war that looks like the present day i guess. so the sales are not going to improve i think. it also has to deal with how kyoto deals with advertising

I wonder about that. There are many shows and films around the world, and not necessarily animes, that focus on today's wars more than FMP, as they talk about war itself and not in the love story/sci-fi theme that FMP also has. Thinking about it, FMP, even tough battles look really credible, is less about war than anything else. Besides, those shows and films I'm thinking about (I don't remember the names, don't ask me, but you probably know some) are very welcomed and sell good.

I better start hunting for the novels in chinese, I'll probally try and find the short stories ones. Since I can barely read the normal story one in english, I doubt I can understand it in chinese. -stares at self who found Shana too hard to read in chinese-

Ah? :twitch: You want the novels in chinese but you can't read chinese? :D

The thing with Munto was that it was original, instead of an adaption. I managed to watched EVERY episode of Munto, there was some good scenes and the eye candies was loveleh, but the script was awful. The story wasn't that great either.

KyoAni used FMP as their stepping stone, it's possible that another 'kyoani' might also use it as a stepping stone. I just don't see why KyoAni WANTS to make more FMP for financial reason. Gonzo seems to notice that moe/panties = sales. Such as Rosario + panty and strike panties.

K-on isn't a visual arts nor kadokawa product, it seems to me that KyoAni is trying to get a larger size of the pie. They were going to adapt 801-chan (I'm still crying that it got canceled) From the look from wikipedia, Houbunsha seems to be much smaller compared to kadokawa, to me, KyoAni seems trying to run away from the hands of large evil corporations. The long delayed of Haruhi seems to be caused by friction between KyoAni and Kadokawa, but obviously we wouldn't know. Once Haruhi 2 aired, then I can start dreaming of an imaginative season 4.

I say Kadokawa doesn't want FMP to be a ruined francise, I mean it gained quite a decent overseas fanbase, even if the japanese fanbased isn't very large. So I guess they wouldn't just hand it to a nobody...I mean when I was a noobie anime fan who went and shouting kawai and baka around, I knew there was an anime called FMP before there was something called Naruto and Bleach. :uhoh:

I agree with you in this. Moe sells far better than... err... whatever FMP is. And let's be honest, KyoAni wants money, everybody wants money! Who can blame them? I'm pretty sure they know we want more FMP, and I'm also pretty sure that they have thought about making it, but there's still nothing. Why? very simple, FMP is not the best seller they can make.

So I invite people to reflect:

I just don't see why KyoAni WANTS to make more FMP for financial reason. Gonzo seems to notice that moe/panties = sales. Such as Rosario + panty and strike panties.

Why does this happen? Why do moe/panties sell more than FMP? Because we buy it! It's our fault! Moe is ruining FMP! WE need to change!




*Runs away very fast before moe fans can catch him*





Just in case :joke: don't take me seriously

[musume_no_hoshi]

I can read chinese ;~; I just suck at reading chinese novels that involves too much english names translated into chinese. I managed to read Haruhi novels in chinese. FMP is going to invlove ALOT of english -> chinese words...and I don't think I can cope with it. With short stories I probally can cope better...:uhoh:

Moe = sales.

Well last year, the best selling DVD/Blu-Ray is Macross Frontier, then it's Code Geass. Then it's Clannad. A couple of years ago, Gundam was always a best seller. Moe never sold that well till KyoAni actually put effort to make a good moe series. There's still loads of crap moe being made, like a certain ojou-sama otaku series. So techically mechs does sell quite well. So I'm somewhat surprised FMP didn't sell nearly as well as Macross, the production values of FMP TSR is on par with Macross AND it's more consistant. The story in FMP doesn't seem any worst and I don't spot any horrible plot holes either. Code Geass is famous for its trolls and bishies for the fujoshis...

And look

Anime sales ranking/Total BD sales ranking/2008 Sales/Weeks charted for 2008/North American Title (Japanese Title if different)

27 47 *2,756 *6 Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid
28 49 *2,738 *9 Full Metal Panic!

The blu-ray sold somewhat decently I would say, it is just a remastered version. Everything else on the list were either Macross Frontier/Code Geass/Gundam/Movies. I'm not sure how many people who bought the original DVDs, would buy the blu-ray. FMP managed to get half the sales of Code Geass season 1 sales.

Code Geass Season 1 DVD: 44657 Blu-ray: 6,294
Full Metal Panic TSR DVD: 4,833 Blu-ray: 2,756

The % of Blu-ray sales of Code Geass is very small compared to its DVD sales. But look at TSR, the blu-ray sold 57% of the numbers of DVD. The Blu-ray box of FMP costs 27,000 yen, its 5000 yen more expensive then the DVD box. So I'm thinking FMP managed to gain more fans between the time, it is 4 years. With some wishful thinking, I hope the imaginative season 4 would sell half as well as Code Geass, which would be around the 10-15k margin.

/looks at CDjapan which they recently sold a Tessa figurine and random cosplay costumes?

And I just noticed the Blu-ray version included an english track. AND ITS REGIONAL FREE...O wait..what I said is useless then. Those extra numbers came from over seas fans...T_T

[Miles Teg]

For people asking for source the figure in musume_no_hoshi post come from the Animation (Anime) DVD Sales in Japan (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=60985) thread and were released by Oricon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oricon).

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I'm pretty sure FMP season 4 is gonna happen. FMP may not sell as well as Code Geass in Japan but I heard FMP is selling good in America and other places.

[Miles Teg]

The overseas sales/licensing are rarely taken into account when deciding about the creation of new season.

If the sales looks to be good in the US and Australia, the fact that TSR has still not be announced to be released in France (Fumoffu has been released in 2006) seems to indicate that it's not true for France, but the "original" manga and Sigma sells well.

[musume_no_hoshi]

That's why gonzo is in its conditions now, it relied on oversea sales. I think I read on animenation that an average episode of anime license costs around $24,000, and when 3 episodes are licensed, it would give japanese around $72,000. In japan, 1 volume DVD has 3 episodes and would cost $60. So a license would make only as much as 1200 units of DVD.

Did someone mention that on the specials on the blu-ray, that the seiyuus mention/hinted there would be a new season? Is there a link to it? :heh:

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

Yes someone did mention it but we need to see the clip from the blu ray release to know if it's true or not.

[ztech]

musume, like you I am downloading the eps. in HQ/HD now.

I wanted to support the FMP S4 cause and wanted to buy all the series. But, £25 / season = 3 X £25 = £75 is a looooot! That's 5 months of rental on my fone's contract!
If it was for £25/30 for all 3 seasons, I would definitely buy it!

I think ADV FILMS is making a big chunk being the middleman. Theya re the ones ripping us off.

[musume_no_hoshi]

Well, I'm planning to only get fumoffu and TSR. Because I'm a KyoAni fangirl -roll eyes-

I honestly don't think ADV are ripping us all, compare £25 to 22,800 yen (£153.09), which is the japanese version DVD boxset.

Link to japanese version: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BIBA-9244

Maybe I got too used to japanese prices now. £25 for a 13 episode season is as cheap as legal chinese version. But really, buying the over seas version isn't going to get you a S4. -roll eyes-

The blu-ray edition of the original and TSR are sold out, and are fetching around 40,000 yen. Yes, 40,000 frikkin yen, thats near to £300. If they're fetching this high, it means there's actually some one who's willing to spend so much on it.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B001B56JZI/ref=dp_olp_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1241647557&sr=1-8

Well I tried to look for any dead torrents for the specials on the blu-ray, all I see are no-credits op/ed, and the cm for it. If it aint on torrents, it won't be on the internet.

[Alchemist007]

How about Japanese forums or something, surely they would've discussed it?

[Bri]

Well last year, the best selling DVD/Blu-Ray is Macross Frontier, then it's Code Geass. Then it's Clannad. A couple of years ago, Gundam was always a best seller. Moe never sold that well till KyoAni actually put effort to make a good moe series. There's still loads of crap moe being made, like a certain ojou-sama otaku series. So techically mechs does sell quite well. So I'm somewhat surprised FMP didn't sell nearly as well as Macross, the production values of FMP TSR is on par with Macross AND it's more consistant. The story in FMP doesn't seem any worst and I don't spot any horrible plot holes either. Code Geass is famous for its trolls and bishies for the fujoshis...



I think you got the answer right there. FMP is neither a pure high school moe drama like Clannad or a true mecha fest like Frontier. It's going to rely on fans who like both genres or are at least not put off by it. Quite likely the reason it has a smaller fanbase. FMP is really carried by the strength of its characters to make this odd mix work.

For that reason I hope they stick with Kyoani. Imo Gonzo could not do justice to the characters at all, the first season is rather bland compared to Fumoffu and TSR. So I'll just have to be patient.

I doubt we will see FMP S4 this year. Kyoani has been alternating mostly between Kodokawa and Key productions. If we assume that this summer will be Haruhi s2 then fall will probably have a Key production. After that who knows.

[Ryuou]

I would also rather wait for KyoAni to do FMP S4 than let another studio do it now and risk a lower quality production. KyoAni has proven that they can do FMP well, so I'd like to stick with them. Hopefully we won't have to wait forever. At least the situation isn't as bad as it is for the Seikai series. We get no new novel for years in addition to no new anime series.

I wonder who'll direct the 4th season though. I think I remember in the commentaries for TSR that the director said he wouldn't want to do another FMP series. Working with the mecha was really hard on him or something like that.

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I don't mind if another studio does it but I want them to put a high budget on it so it won't look crappy. I'm wishing that Kyoani announce season 4 already for the fall since they haven't announce any project for the fall yet.

[Alchemist007]

"KyoAni" and "God level trolls" are synonymous in my head now. And I only learned about their existence 2 days ago.

[Miles Teg]

"KyoAni" and "God level trolls" are synonymous in my head now. And I only learned about their existence 2 days ago.

Kyoto Animation has never trolled anyone, but Kadokawa Shoten has a very strange way of taking care of the fans of their different series.

This sentence can also be read :

Kyoto Animation has never trolled anyone, but Kadokawa Shoten has a tendency of trolling the fans of Haruhi :D

[musume_no_hoshi]

Well the director of FMP is 'currently' directing Haruhi 2, and he doesn't really want to do FMP right? If they make a new fumoffu season, the director of AIR, KANON, Clannad would work, since the comedy in those anime are pretty good, the emotional scenes are great too. I have a feeling the next anime that KyoAni would make would be Little Busters -roll eyes-

I never expected the director say that mech anime was too hard for him, he to have done a good job on it. I would personally say his FMP is better then his Lucky Star, but Lucky star kinda relied partly on Yutaka (I think that was his name, the director of Kannagi). If the director doesn't want to do it, then who's going to direct our imaginative season 4?

[Bri]

hmm, Yutaka Yamamoto, hadn't thought about him.

A1 Pictures took in a lot of ex-Kyoani people and their latest works show more then a bit of Kyoani influence. Kannagi was promissing, and Valkyria Chronicles shows they can do mecha very well. Wonder if they do business with Kadokawa.

[ztech]

Well, I'm planning to only get fumoffu and TSR. Because I'm a KyoAni fangirl -roll eyes-

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Sry for getting back so late...

Yh, buying overseas wont get a S4 , but it will make me feel good inside :heh:

£153 is fricking expensive for 1 season of an anime!
I can buy all 6 seasons of 24 for less than that price!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/24-Complete-Seasons-1-6-DVD/dp/B000V7ZMKA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1241980233&sr=8-3

Doesn't make sense.

Guess that's why most of us watch anime on TV channels like Animax, etc.

[ztech]

And, I also don't like how KyoAni made FMP a pervert anime in Fumoffu and TSR.

Everyone naked in school? Naked lesb suggestive scene? Guy's manhood being fondled in 2 scenes? Hooker?

I can't suggest this anime to anyone under 15 cos of these.

:frustrated:

[Miles Teg]

And, I also don't like how KyoAni made FMP a pervert anime in Fumoffu and TSR.

Everyone naked in school? Naked lesb suggestive scene? Guy's manhood being fondled in 2 scenes? Hooker?

I can't suggest this anime to anyone under 15 cos of these.

:frustrated:

Part of that was already in the novel, the other part has been added by the writer of the novel :heh: KyoAni is not at fault for that ;) Shouji Gatoh is :D

[FeistyDreams]

And, I also don't like how KyoAni made FMP a pervert anime in Fumoffu and TSR.

Everyone naked in school? Naked lesb suggestive scene? Guy's manhood being fondled in 2 scenes? Hooker?

I can't suggest this anime to anyone under 15 cos of these.

:frustrated:

What about the completely gratuitous panty shots that served no purpose other than fan service in the first season? Those were something added by the animation studio that had nothing to do with anything. The naked at school thing in Fumoffu was from one of the short stories that Gatoh wrote, it wasn't there to be like 'Look at these naked teenagers!' it had an actual plot behind it.

Same with the suggestive scenes in TSR, while those were not things in the books they WERE monitored by Gatoh. The sisters being so intimate with each other, using their 'feminine wiles' to get what they wanted? Showed how messed up they were from Gauron's influence. The hooker? Showed just how far gone Sousuke really was at that moment.

The panty shots? No. Reason. The first season is the really 'perverted' one because there are 0 plot reasons for the shots, it's just fan service, nothing more.

Not trying to be mean or snarky or anything, I'm just trying to understand why the fan service is acceptable but the other stuff isn't. =P

[musume_no_hoshi]

I remember watching the first season, I think it was the 2nd episode. Where there was rosario+panty like panty shot, I was thinking 'Yes, it's animated Gonzo'. The first series really did have some what I call 'useless fanservice'.

In Fumoffu and TSR, the fanservice wasn't what you call 'useless fanservice'. The fanservice can be easily avoidable, but at least served somesort of purpose. I quite like the hooker herself, they actually developed her to a certain extent despite being such a minor character. Hong Kong is quite well known for the amount of hookers from china -roll eyes- I found it perfectly believable there was hooker at Hong kong...I must have watched too much TVB dramas.

If a 15 year boy started reading FMP when it was just released, he would have seem 26 by now. Making the novels/anime more mature on the way seems acceptable to me.

The reason why people prefer KyoAni compared to Gonzo, because Gonzo have done quite a few crap lately (such as dragonnaught and Rosario+Vampire). KyoAni's record have always been very good, other then Munto. What ever anime they make, the target audience loved it. If you seen all of KyoAni's anime (As a KyoAni fangirl, I must), they all have little or virtually no fanservice (unless you count moe as fanservice). KyoAni don't tend to add useless fanservice. While Gonzo is famous for adding fanservice to their own enjoyment.

[itisjustme]

Moe is fanservice, except it doesn't suffer from the" oh noes panties so disgusting only scum would enjoy sex" social taboo, especially if you take it as far as something like K-On which is so far nothing but a 25 minutes moe showcase.

While Gonzo have always been hit and miss they also did things like Samurai 7, Last Exile, Kaleidostar, Romeo x Juliet, Gankuotsuou, NHK, etc, and in their time have been adventurous and daring both in presentation and content. Kyoto on the other hand, asides from their FMP debuts did nothing but safe pandering type of shows, and I'll bet in 5 years when the hypes dies down few people would remember them, maybe asides from Haruhi.

Don't get me wrong, I think they established a smart business plan, targetted their core audience and panders to it with style, while Gonzo as a company made some rather classic mistakes, but atm there's a hip trend of reviling everything Gonzo while acting as if KyoAni are godly beings that can do no wrong and no one else can come close to them. It's rather over the top and tiresome after a while, and in any case, rather than the studio what matters most is the direction and budget.

Personally I liked 1st season better, mainly for the comedy/action/drama mixture, and because it was longer and felt more complete. Technically TSR is of course better, but it also came 3 years later, so. Now If KyoAni did a new season I'm sure they'd do a good job of it, but I am a bit skeptical whether they'd do it, as they've been sticking to their core business without fail and FMP is no longer part of it.

Now if this were dreamland I'd like to see what a Kenji Kamiyama-directed FMP would look like. :heh: Or even studio Bones FMP, that'd be interesting.

[ztech]

Part of that was already in the novel, the other part has been added by the writer of the novel :heh: KyoAni is not at fault for that ;) Shouji Gatoh is :D

Ah, my bad.

Whenever I see echchi in a good anime, I think - God, how Patchetic! They are using echchi so that their stuff sells.

[musume_no_hoshi]

Don't get me wrong, I think they established a smart business plan, targetted their core audience and panders to it with style, while Gonzo as a company made some rather classic mistakes, but atm there's a hip trend of reviling everything Gonzo while acting as if KyoAni are godly beings that can do no wrong and no one else can come close to them. It's rather over the top and tiresome after a while, and in any case, rather than the studio what matters most is the direction and budget.

I found KyoAni's business plan sometimes way too smart. There's two things that generally sells within the anime business. Moe and Mechs. Before they started producing their own anime, they do bits and bobs of other animes, from the list, there aren't much anime that panders to otakus. To my impression, KyoAni didn't plan to work on moe from the start, but just wanted to try and see the reception. Surprisingly putting some decent effort into moe makes it sell loads. They're best with moe, and they're just doing what they're good at. Gonzo tries to find different audience, and it's not working. Production I.G and BONES are also trying new sorts of anime all the time, but they do it very well, they actually try out new things yet have some pretty good sales numbers.

If I was the head of KyoAni, I wouldn't make more FMP. As a fan, I love AIR and Clannad on a much higher level compared to FMP. I have so little hope with a new season, I'm actually reading the novels, even if I absolutely hate reading. I haven't even finish the Haruhi novels, because I'm waitinf for the so called '2nd season'.

I liked TSR and Fumoffu for making the mood, for some reason the mood with the first season didn't really do the job for me. It was really hard to finish the first season, I started the first season 2 years ago, so I can watch TSR. But it took me 2 years later till I finished the first season, then I went and finish TSR in one day. I don't know is it the original novel or the director/animation company, but the mood felt right with TSR. I do prefer the format of mix and match of serious parts and comical parts.

I'm sure if KyoAni puts the effort into making a new FMP season it would be great. Munto was quite an eye candy...

Ps. Kaleido Star was amazing. RomeoXJuliet started out pretty good, untill I started studying the original script at school, then it turned out pretty bad.

[Skane]

Gonzo's business model has also caused them to do retrenchment and closure of company assets, so I'm not sure if one wants to say that they are doing okay. Fact is... they're doing something wrong. Very wrong.

Bones, Prod. IG, Gainax, etc... are all companies that also experiment a lot, but you don't see them face-vaulting into the red-line because of it; and that is in no small due to the fact that they don't choose to animate inane titles.

Gonzo is currently a laughing stock for a reason.

Cheers.

[itisjustme]

Oh I think Gonzo made some of the mistakes my ex company did actually, like overambitious expansion, rush to recruit ill-qualifed personnel, dilution of primary/core competence/key staff, diversification aiming for all segments of the market (and trying to compete against market leaders) while letting go of your core business etc.

Said company went from healthy benefit and market leadership in its domain to massive deficits and restructurations in less than 24 months after ownership changed hands. Typical really.

[Ottocycle]

Takemoto Yasuhiro(director of TSR) revealed on the Kyoani staff blog (http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/staff/anibaka_fr.html) that he starting helping out with work on K-ON! barring his "secret project" allowing him to do so.

Secret project, mmm..

[Miles Teg]

Secret project, mmm..

Haruhi season 2 :heh:

[Ottocycle]

Either one or the other now, I guess :heh:

[musume_no_hoshi]

Haruhi 2 isn't going to made, NEVER. Kadokawa are the biggest trollers ever. I have lost all my hopes on kadokawa. KyoAni has a good record with their key adaption, the anime is always released 6 months after it has been announced. At least that's what I remember with Kanon and Clannad.

Even if they announced FMP4, it would take them 3 years till it'll air. Look at Haruhi 2, there are finally more solid 'hints' that it would air during the rerun. God...I have been lurking on the Haruhi Season 2 thread since it had 20 pages...now it's near to 200 pages.

Techically the secret project can be anything, but Haruhi 2 isn't a secret is it? Everyone knows about it. It could be the canceled 801-chan or a new FMP or something that no one ever heard of.

Once I actually see a new Haruhi episode, then I'll say our FMP4 have a chance to be made.

[Alchemist007]

Guess FMP 4 could be the secret project, considering the blu ray thing too (assuming that true). They certainly have the time since the novels are so far ahead and almost done too.

[The Quack-man]

Takemoto Yasuhiro(director of TSR) revealed on the Kyoani staff blog (http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/staff/anibaka_fr.html) that he starting helping out with work on K-ON! barring his "secret project" allowing him to do so.

A 'Secret Project'?? Oh Wow!! That is exciting news!! Well Done Humbug......
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though in what context was he referring to it as??
One can get their hopes up, but he could have been referring to anything, from Studio productions (such as Haruhi2 or ???) to stuff in his personal life? Hmmm maybe 'Creative Consultant' on the proposed Live-action FMP movie, starring everyone's favourite all singing & dancing Sousuke-impersonator Mr.Efron :p

Runs frantically from the hostile FMP-faithful crowd :D

But as noted earlier before, Gatoh-san has not updated his blog for very nearly 2months now, could the two be linked???

[Crisano]

As Miles Teg already mentioned, it could be Haruhi Season 2. I really hope he meant FMP 4, though. I would be happy with either. Think he could have possibly meant a Key adaptation as well? I don't know what he has directed so...

[Miles Teg]

List of works were Takemoto Yasuhiro has participated :

Director :
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid (OAV) : Director, Storyboard
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid (TV) : Director
Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu (TV) : Director, Screenplay (Ep. 5), Storyboard (OP/ED, Eps. 1, 9), Episode Director (OP/ED)
Lucky Star (TV) : Director (eps 5-24), Storyboard (eps 6,12,18,24), Episode Director (eps 6,12)
Lucky Star OVA : Director, Screenplay, Storyboard, Episode Director
Melancholy of Haruhi-chan Suzumiya (ONA) : Director
Nyorōn Churuya-san (ONA) : Director
Nurse Witch Komugi (OAV) : Director (ep 1-2), Storyboard (ep 1-2), Episode Director (ep 1-2)

Not director :
Air (TV) : Storyboard (ep 3, 6), Episode Director (ep 3), Key Animation (OP, ep 3)
Air In Summer (special) : Key Animation (OP)
Clannad (TV) : Storyboard (ep 10), Episode Director (ep 10)
Clannad After Story (TV) : Storyboard (eps 5,24), Episode Director (ep 24)
(The) Daichis - Earth Defence Family (TV) : Episode Director (ep 6)
Haré+Guu (TV) : Script
Kanon (TV 2/2006) : Storyboard (ep 6), Episode Director (ep 6), Key Animation (OP)
Master of Mosquiton (OAV) : Key Animation
(The) Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (TV) : Storyboard (ep 11), Episode Director (ep 11)
(The) SoulTaker (TV) : Storyboard (ep 3,6), Episode Director (ep 3,6)
Tenchi Muyo Movie 1: Tenchi in Love : Key Animation
Tenchi Universe (TV) : Key Animation (ep 23)

[Frostbitten]

Now this is interesting. I hope the "secret project" is somehow related to FMP... :)

[musume_no_hoshi]

If he actually bothered to type out a secret project on the KyoAni blog, it is most likely something related to KyoAni. It's another marketing strategy to get people hyped about a 'new project'. He could be working on a Key adpation, but most likely he wouldn't be the director. The director for Key adaptions is always Tatsuya Ishihara.

Now Gatou hasn't updated his blog for ages. Gatou could be helping the hollywood adaption...-roll eyes- A movie adaption does us nothing bad, if it's good then we'll get our season 4, if it's bad, the original fans would still be fans. But Furumeta Musikaru (I think that's how you spell it) would be a hilarious movie.

FMP comedy wouldn't work in a Hollywood movie, especially our beloved harisen wouldn't even make an appearence.

[Miles Teg]

Shoji Gatou can also be simply finishing the last novel :heh: Spring is nearly finished ;)

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

Yeah He definitely is working out it because it's about to be summer so he probably thinking of some way to make it a good ending where every fans is satisfiy with.

As for the secret project I doubt it's haruhi 2 since everybody know it's coming.

[Chidori<3]

As for the secret project I doubt it's haruhi 2 since everybody know it's coming.

If everybody know about second season of Haruhi - it's not a secret... ;)

I hope it's FMP

[Miles Teg]

If everybody know about second season of Haruhi - it's not a secret... ;)

I hope it's FMP

Until an official announcement is made Haruhi season 2 is still a secret and up to now we have no true proof of the existence of Haruhi 2.

[Chidori<3]

Until an official announcement is made Haruhi season 2 is still a secret and up to now we have no true proof of the existence of Haruhi 2.

I know that there wasn't an official announcement about Haruhi 2, but I think, it's obvious that there will be one more season... So, I hope so, that the secret project is about FMP ;) But I know that it might be Haruhi 2... :/

[qwertyuiopz]

ok i just finished 2nd raid
there should be...there is a lot of foreshadowing of another series on the last episode

[Ryuou]

Haha, qwertyuiopz, man your avatar made me laugh. That was a crazy anime.

But to say something on topic, hopefully that secret project turns out to be FMP 4.

[slash502]

Haha, qwertyuiopz, man your avatar made me laugh. That was a crazy anime.

But to say something on topic, hopefully that secret project turns out to be FMP 4.

what anime is it? i wanna check it out, crazy is a promising word

[seaghyn16]

the signiture says "Soul Eater" and I know that's an anime, so...?

though if you click the sig, it comes to a site where someone says FLCL....

then again, this is me talking about the sig, and I just realized you want to know about the avatar...

I'm hopeless O_o

[itisjustme]

It's Shigeru from Yakitate!! Japan (hilarious stuff).

On topic, I'm hoping they don't wait too much for this, after the last book comes out people will start caring. (Doubt they'd be hyping all this secret thing this much for FMP, but I'd be excited if it were :D)

[qwertyuiopz]

what anime is it? i wanna check it out, crazy is a promising word

its yakitate japan
the one im using now is also yakitate but different from what the avatar the other guy was talking about

and yes its crazy funny :D

the signiture says "Soul Eater" and I know that's an anime, so...?

though if you click the sig, it comes to a site where someone says FLCL....

then again, this is me talking about the sig, and I just realized you want to know about the avatar...

I'm hopeless O_o

i had a flcl sig before i change it to soul eater

[seaghyn16]

lol, I wasn't stalking, I was just curious O_o.......

But okay. I've heard of Yakitate!! Japan, but all I know at the moment is that it's a form of cooking anime?

to be on topic I guess...go go season 4!

[musume_no_hoshi]

Yakitate!! Japan is about bread, I seen a little bit of the chinese dub on TV while I was in hong kong. It was alomst a parody of a cooking anime.

I wonder, if Kadokawa troll us like how they troll Haruhiists, would this thread move as fast as Haruhi Season 2 thread. If they actually not troll us, and announce the anime in a normal way, how many people actually would get excited? :heh:

[Miles Teg]

I wonder, if Kadokawa troll us like how they troll Haruhiists, would this thread move as fast as Haruhi Season 2 thread. If they actually not troll us, and announce the anime in a normal way, how many people actually would get excited? :heh:

Haruhi is really special and FMP is clearly not a that level, so even after an announcement of a new season threads won't start to grow at that speed.

What I really want to see if a new season is announced, is how the moderator will take care of the spoiler who appear every where on this sub-forum. For most of us it will be nearly impossible to enter prediction thread or even to go to episode discussion thread where we can start to speak about future events without even realizing it and be banned for this :heh:

For me the moment a new anime is announced I will leave this thread, after full spoiler for the last novel are released I will leave the sub-forum. If a new anime is announced I won't be that excited, the only thing I want to see animated is the AS fight, I prefer the novel for everything else ;)

[musume_no_hoshi]

Okay, new episode of Haruhi is up. Now that KyoAni would actually make a sequal for a Kadokawa series shows that we have our chance for a new FMP.

[itisjustme]

Why? Haruhi is a clear cashcow and there was no doubt at all a second season would be coming. Not so much with FMP.

(On a sidenote, the Haruhi subforum is making me crack up right now.)

[Deadwings]

So now let's pay attention to any possible announcement of an FMP re-airing. :heh:

[Miles Teg]

So now let's pay attention to any possible announcement of an FMP re-airing. :heh:

That has been done last year :heh:

[musume_no_hoshi]

Some people at the Haruhi threads are saying, Kadokawa could troll us by showing us one episode of PURE moe crap, then show us the proper episode next week. If they really wanted to troll in the worst way as possible.

Since they redid the character designs for Haruhi, if our imaginative FMP4 is made, chances are KyoAni would 'update' the character design, make it moe-er to look more like the current novel artwork.

Do we have a 'god' to pray to like Haruhi? Maybe faith would bring forth the 4th season.

:heh::heh::heh:

[phillip~en~ciel]

i have a feeling that its gonna happen this summer~~4th season, i can feel it!!!!awwwwgghhhwaaaaaaeeeerrr!!! cant wait~~FMP haz enter my brain~~like no other anime~~

[Illsteir]

Do we have a 'god' to pray to like Haruhi? Maybe faith would bring forth the 4th season.

I guess we can tap the OMNISPHERE using that software seilychidori posted a couple pages back :heh:

[sr7olsniper]

Some people at the Haruhi threads are saying, Kadokawa could troll us by showing us one episode of PURE moe crap, then show us the proper episode next week. If they really wanted to troll in the worst way as possible.

Since they redid the character designs for Haruhi, if our imaginative FMP4 is made, chances are KyoAni would 'update' the character design, make it moe-er to look more like the current novel artwork.

Do we have a 'god' to pray to like Haruhi? Maybe faith would bring forth the 4th season.

:heh::heh::heh:

Pray to Sophia!!!!! She will some how alter time and make it so that some Whispered at KyoAni develops the 4th season

[HunterSeeker]

Some people at the Haruhi threads are saying, Kadokawa could troll us by showing us one episode of PURE moe crap, then show us the proper episode next week. If they really wanted to troll in the worst way as possible.

Since they redid the character designs for Haruhi, if our imaginative FMP4 is made, chances are KyoAni would 'update' the character design, make it moe-er to look more like the current novel artwork.

Do we have a 'god' to pray to like Haruhi? Maybe faith would bring forth the 4th season.

:heh::heh::heh:
No chance. KyoAni isn't the one who design the characters, it's that gal (IIRC) who helped illustrations of FMP for long do so IMO.

And I simply hate Haruhi and the franchise totally for some reason, so I won't even pay to any possible "gods".
However, the dull thing is what I heard from a friend taht 4th season isn't possible at this time due to copyright issues. Of course, that may be another thing after the novels are finished......

[musume_no_hoshi]

I doubt there's copyright issues, other then KyoAni has the rights to FMP anime. Because if I was Gonzo...I would try and make more FMP since it is an established series instead of one that is a total risk. I hope Gonzo all the luck, I doubt Shangri would sell...

Character designs as in turning the designs in the novels into a more animatable form, the one that does the illustrations in the novel is called 'original character design'. The style might be slightly different. Best example are Toei's character designs of clannad/air/kanon compared to KyoAni version, the base design are the same, but they are slightly different, such as Toei's Kanon has GIANT eyes compared to KyoAni. But then Toei's AIR has smaller eyes then KyoAni. Weirdly, even if the character designer is the same for Gonzo and KyoAni FMP, I can easily tell the difference in which company did the illustrations.

Currently a Key adaption is announced:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-05-27/key-angel-beats-project-get-tv-anime-green-lit

Aniplex is producing this anime. Aniplex is a subsidy of Sony...so chances are it'll be animated by A-1 Pictures, which is owned by Sony. Remember Yutaka Yamamoto pulled around 1/3 of KyoAni staffs with him to A-1 Pictures, so this could be animated by A-1 Pictures. But then Key anime series are always done by KyoAni/Toei, so Aniplex could still be the producer but the animations done by KyoAni.

Just some not-really-related-news to our imaginative 4th season.

[Subzero00]

by the way full metal panic is being released on bluray in the US

[Alchemist007]

^^god damnit for a second I though it was FMP.

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I'm glad the blu ray version of Full Metal Panic is coming for the U.S. but they're only selling TSR. I hope it does contain the talk about the fourth season.

[musume_no_hoshi]

But the animation of TSR is definately Blu Ray worthy right (even if they did not produce it in high-def)? Do the US release contains clips of Japanese seiyuu talking? Don't they usually just have the english dub voice actor/actresses?

For now, there's nothing announced for fall from KyoAni. I would think that they're taking another 6 months break. K-on was announced around mid Feb and Munto around Nov. So they could announce an anime soon enough. If the secret project is FMP, I would think they need quite a bit of time doing the animation. Mechs are not the easiest thing to draw. Moe girls on the other hand are much much much easier (at least for me). I hope KyoAni just got bored at making over-doeses of moe-ness and just make something more GAR.

[velvet nightmare]

wasnt the secret project haruhi 2

[musume_no_hoshi]

It could be, but Haruhi 2 wasn't a secret. We all know there is a 2nd season, but we just didn't know when it'll air. So I would asume it's another anime.

[The Quack-man]

by the way full metal panic is being released on bluray in the US

Woohoo!! I was so excited when I read Funimation were actually going to release a TSR Blu-ray version.
The Japanese edition (if you can locate one!?) is selling for anywhere between 30,000 & 50,000yen!! But those are admittingly 'limited editions'. That is a huge price difference - converting to around AUD370 to 600 compared to the USD75.00 being offered on pre-order at Amazon (which is about AUD100!!). Well done to Funimation for the decent pricing.
Though at this stage, it does look as if we may miss out on some of the material that was contained in the Japanese release. Their Blu-ray box set contained no less than Four Discs which had a multitude of bonus materials & commentaries. The Funimation release will contain just the two Blu-ray discs - which is still more than ample to store 14episodes (13 from the series + the bonus OVA). Below is a list of the Special Features that have been confirmed thus far:
Bonus Episode 000
Bonus OVA
Location Scouting in Hong Kong
Textless Songs
Opening Song - Southern Wind
Closing Song - I Wanna See You Again
Trailers

(Unfortunately ADV Films, which still holds the license to the 1st series of FMP & Fumoffu, have no interest in releasing any of their animes on Blu-ray at this particular time......).

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

That really sucks whats the point of only having TSR in blu ray when the first two series are not.

[Miles Teg]

That really sucks whats the point of only having TSR in blu ray when the first two series are not.

If those two season are simply upscale then the upscale done by your player/TV with the DVD has a source will probably be as good as the one done for the Blu-Ray (even better sometimes :heh:)

[ghost_zero5]

I would just say: TSR is newer and therefore it was very likely produced in a HD-Format already and it is very likely that the older series were NOT produced in a HD-Format and therefore it wouldn't make to much sense to release them on Blu-Ray anyway. However, in my country not even the DVD for TSR is out yet and as there is no multi-region/regionfree Blu-Ray player yet and I don't want to have two players (maybe if the become cheaper I might but currently...), the best possibility is to import the DVDs for TSR as I can watch them on a multi-region DVD-player.

[DrBobr]

It was long time ago, in 2006, when I have watched TSR. Sins that time pasts over 3 years and my hope is slowly dying. If KyoAni wouldn’t announce new season this summer I will go and ….. will draw it myself ( although I cannot draw) ^_^

[dpryciak]

After looking things over in the series and whatnot, I'm thinking we're never going to see another series. It's sad, it sucks, and I hate it, but I doubt we'll ever get this reality. With so many other series coming out and being so popular, with the economy tight, and with anime studios claiming bankruptcy, they're only going to go with that which is making money NOW.

I think some people, additionally, were happy to market this as a "school age/mech" type of show...but now it is more "mech/sci-fi/mystic" with some romance tossed in. It's hard to handle for some people. They want something easy to classify, something they can sell without much trouble.

Just some thoughts.

[velvet nightmare]

im going to have to agree, we're seeing a lot more sequels in particular of series' that are already generating high revenues

though i already gave up on a new series even when times were good 2-3 years back

just hoping the last novel is going to be finished sometime in the next few years -_-

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I think you guys need to have hope on the fourth season. If Gatoh doesn't put any new information on the last novel then I'm gonna start crying in the corner.

[FeistyDreams]

I think you guys need to have hope on the fourth season. If Gatoh doesn't put any new information on the last novel then I'm gonna start crying in the corner.

I'll join you. ToT I swear, I check his blog and amazon japan like 5 times a day. Sigma v.11 got put up a week or so ago listing its release date and I wanted to cry... "Oh, something new-- wait... wait... that's just Sigma. QQ"

I'm going to hold on to my hope for a new anime no matter how much time passes... I want it too badly to give up.

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

YEAH never give up because we have to hope for a new season until I hear that they will not make FMP 4 then I'll give up.

[dpryciak]

Has Gatoh said anything? Is he sick, alive, whatnot?

[FeistyDreams]

He hasn't said anything... Last update was 3/30 and it was something about Tower of Druaga... I didn't bother to read it since it had nothing to do with FMP. I think he keeps getting dragged into too many projects... Some help with Haruhi as I remember, some with Lucky Star, Infinite Undiscovery, this Tower of Druaga anime that I haven't bothered to check out... Seriously, I know he's awesome, but they need to stop stealing him from us FMP fans! XD

[Bolton]

I think the only realistic chance FMP can get a fourth season is when the economy starts to heal, and when Gatou's finished the final book. He announced Fummofu on the DVMC author notes, and maybe he'll announce a new FMP series on the final book's author notes. It's just a rough guess of mine.

[ghost_zero5]

Actually, I think waiting for the last book - especially since it seems that there won't be many books left until the series is finished - is what makes the most sense currently because that way they can again make a longer season (like the first one or maybe even a bit longer) and finish the animation with that one.

[Bolton]

Actually, I think waiting for the last book - especially since it seems that there won't be many books left until the series is finished - is what makes the most sense currently because that way they can again make a longer season (like the first one or maybe even a bit longer) and finish the animation with that one.

I agree with you man, but if they include everything from DVMC to the final book, it's gonna be like 30+ episodes. It would be a FMP fan's dream though, so much action...*drools*

[Kimitachi]

YEAH never give up because we have to hope for a new season until I hear that they will not make FMP 4 then I'll give up.
Totally agree! we have to wait until the very end...hope is the last thing to lose.

[ghost_zero5]

I agree with you man, but if they include everything from DVMC to the final book, it's gonna be like 30+ episodes. It would be a FMP fan's dream though, so much action...*drools*

30+ Anime isn't too unrealistic now, is it :) There are enough with more than 30 episodes.
Of course, for FMP it would be the first time.

Regarding your last sentence: So true :)

[Bolton]

30+ Anime isn't too unrealistic now, is it :) There are enough with more than 30 episodes.
Of course, for FMP it would be the first time.

Regarding your last sentence: So true :)

Yeah man, I don't care about the storyline much anymore now, but I love my mecha action. And TSR's final Arm Slave battle scene? One of the best I've seen.

[Luthon]

I would just say: TSR is newer and therefore it was very likely produced in a HD-Format already and it is very likely that the older series were NOT produced in a HD-Format and therefore it wouldn't make to much sense to release them on Blu-Ray anyway. However, in my country not even the DVD for TSR is out yet and as there is no multi-region/regionfree Blu-Ray player yet and I don't want to have two players (maybe if the become cheaper I might but currently...), the best possibility is to import the DVDs for TSR as I can watch them on a multi-region DVD-player.

i would'nt say that because the first season and fumoffu have both been released on blu-ray in japan. heres a link to where you can buy them. http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB%E3%83%A1%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AB%E3%8 3%BB%E3%83%91%E3%83%8B%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF-%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%94%9F%E7%9 4%A3-Blu-ray-%E5%8D%83%E6%98%8E%E5%AD%9D%E4%B8%80/dp/B0016W8LXE/ref=pd_sim_d_3. http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB%E3%83%A1%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AB%E3%8 3%BB%E3%83%91%E3%83%8B%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF-%E3%81%B5%E3%82%82%E3%81%A3%E3%81%B5-%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%94%9F%E7%9 4%A3-Blu-ray-%E6%AD%A6%E6%9C%AC%E5%BA%B7%E5%BC%98/dp/B001GLIZMM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1245740769&sr=1-1

[ghost_zero5]

i would'nt say that because the first season and fumoffu have both been released on blu-ray in japan.[/url]

Though you seem to be correct that there exists Blu-Rays of the two older seasons that doesn't mean that the original content really existed as HD material. They could have just upmixed it to HD and in that case if your player is good enough there won't be much difference between the Blu-Ray and the DVD if any at all.

[musume_no_hoshi]

Gonzo definately did not produced it in HD, the inking lines are all pixel-ly. KyoAni did not make AIR in HD, as seen in AIR blu-ray. They might have made TSR in high-def. Fumoff (made before AIR) was definately not made in high-def, but rather some good upscaling.

Anyone who's up with Haruhi 2, would have noticed how TROLLISH the director is this time round with Haruhi. I hope this would not be the case of our imaginary 4th season...

[ghost_zero5]

As my mother language is not English, I want to ask: What exactly do you mean by trollish?

I guess you don't mean something related to the story, do you because Haruhi is mainly "just" an animation of the novels.

Btw. what is AIR?

[Miles Teg]

AIR -> Anime done by Kyoto Animation, adaptation of a game from Key (like Kanon or Clannad). One of the first anime to be released in HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. And the first big succes of Kyoto Animation.

Trollish / Troll -> Someone who do everything he can to create conflict, to annoy people.

[Eak]

I still think the only possibility of a new FMP coming out soon (being 1, maybe 2 years from now) is if it was with a different studio.

I am unfortunately one of the fans that gave up on seeing new material... It's a feeling I am very much use to :|

[ghost_zero5]

Trollish / Troll -> Someone who do everything he can to create conflict, to annoy people.

I don't exactly get the point regarding Haruhi then though. What conflicts does musume_no_hoshi mean (exactly)?

I mean OK: To create three episodes (haven't watched the third one yet; but I hope it ends with that one; as three are already ridiculous) for Endless Eight is somehow stupid. Especially as all three are just called Endless Eight without Part 1,2,3 or something like this.
Furthermore, Endless Eight is actually a "side story" of one chapter in the novels, so "wasting" three episodes with it is kinda hard - especially in part 2 where half of the episode was mainly what happened in part 1. I am not completely sure anymore but I believe in the chapter it actually ended after one circle (they did the activities and discovered them in the same circle where the activities were described).
EDIT: As I have now watched part 3. That one is even more a repeat of part 2 than part 2 of part 1 and I might be wrong but it still seems like it isn't settled yet.

[Subzero00]

when will the last novel be released

[Rozsette]

Just finished watching all of them, and I hope there will be more. I can't get enough =p.
Considering that I've watched the first season after 7 years from being aired is really something, and I must say it looked so good, and felt the same way too ^^.

Fingers crossed for more >_<

[Devouree]

Hey, have any of you guys seen this yet?

Live Action film
In April 2009, a live action film adaptation was announced by Mandalay Pictures, with Zac Efron rumored to be attached to the project.[2] Efron has since confirmed a meeting took place regarding the project but added that the adaption was not likely to happen.[7]
Source: Wikipedia...

Come, at this stage I would welcome anything at all in terms of FMP, though another anime series would be preferred as I have time whilst consuming rations and during work breaks to watch stuff, but it would be difficult to cook, work and/or eat at the same time as flicking through a novel. And frankly, I dislike Zac Efron anyway :P

[Devouree]

I'm rewatching TSR OVA, and when Clouseax (or however you spell his name) is reclaiming the anime from Lost and Found....... reminds me of what I'll have to do when my colleagues ever find out what genre of "video" i like to watch (either that or find a nice serrated knife to end my life with :P)

[ztech]

Guys, don't forget to watch the unaired Kidnapping episode, if you are not watching from the DVD's.

[oompa loompa]

Guys, don't forget to watch the unaired Kidnapping episode, if you are not watching from the DVD's.

...unaired kidnapping episode:confused:?? please, do tell me more

[FeistyDreams]

...unaired kidnapping episode:confused:?? please, do tell me more

I think what the person is referring to is in Fumoffu two of the episodes were unaired. The one where Akutsu Mari has Kaname kidnapped was unaired because there were some gang problems heavy in the news at the time it was to be aired in Japan so they didn't because of sensitivity issues.

Also, the episode with the gym teacher trying to sabotage the lunch bread wasn't aired because there had been some kind of food poisoning thing in some schools in Japan at the time. So, again, sensitivity. (I don't remember the exact details behind either story, I just know that's why they went unaired.)

FMP hasn't had much luck with that. In the anime they changed Afghanistan to Helmajistan because of 9/11, again, right as FMP was supposed to air. *shakes head* Very bad luck.

[xCrystalx]

Hey everybody! :D I'm still a newbie when it comes to Full Metal Panic so expect some stupidity on my side. I watched all the 3 series but I'm not satisfied. I need to know what happens between Kaname and Sousuke. Can anybody link me to where I can get a hold of the novels/manga anything?

The last thing that happened in the novel was that Kaname was kidnapped for being a whispered. Sousuke is frantically looking for her. He manages to communicate with her through radio or something and he promises to find her. Is this true?

[Miles Teg]

The last thing that happened in the novel was that Kaname was kidnapped for being a whispered. Sousuke is frantically looking for her. He manages to communicate with her through radio or something and he promises to find her. Is this true?

It's true but a novel come after that :heh:

If you want to read all the novel who come after TSR you will need to find them or read spoiler from this thread -> http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=33290 (one of the post on the first page have link to most spoilers)

Else you can make a search for "shutazen" on google.

The order of the novel after TSR :
A Dancing very Merry Christmas (DVMC)
Continuing On My Own (COMO)
Burning One Man Force (BOMF)
Come Make My Day (MMD)
Approaching Nick of Time Chapter (NOT)

[Yami Sonozaki]

Dammit, I want more. Someone better start making another season >_>.

[velvet nightmare]

Dammit, I want more. Someone better start making another season >_>.

join the club, i've been sitting here since the last ova that came out what, 4 years ago? rofl

[Chidori<3]

join the club, i've been sitting here since the last ova that came out what, 4 years ago? rofl


do not be so pessimistic... there has to be another series, when the last novel will be realise ( it should be realised April/May this year, but that's a detail...), there will be 4th series... probably, I guess so, I thing so, I hope so... :/



aaa! mooooo!! I can't take it any longer !!!!:eyespin:

I'm following this forum for 2 years, almost every day... and for those 2 years, there is nothing new about next season...

[xCrystalx]

It's true but a novel come after that :heh:

If you want to read all the novel who come after TSR you will need to find them or read spoiler from this thread -> http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=33290 (one of the post on the first page have link to most spoilers)

Else you can make a search for "shutazen" on google.

The order of the novel after TSR :
A Dancing very Merry Christmas (DVMC)
Continuing On My Own (COMO)
Burning One Man Force (BOMF)
Come Make My Day (MMD)
Approaching Nick of Time Chapter (NOT)

Thank you so much for the help! :kisskiss:

[fallschirmjager]

I just got a new FMP! wallscroll and the TSR OST to complete my OST collection today and I'm starting to feel the need to watch the series' again...

[Kuroki Kaze]

Hey, have any of you guys seen this yet?

Live Action film
In April 2009, a live action film adaptation was announced by Mandalay Pictures, with Zac Efron rumored to be attached to the project.[2] Efron has since confirmed a meeting took place regarding the project but added that the adaption was not likely to happen.[7]
Source: Wikipedia...

Come, at this stage I would welcome anything at all in terms of FMP, though another anime series would be preferred as I have time whilst consuming rations and during work breaks to watch stuff, but it would be difficult to cook, work and/or eat at the same time as flicking through a novel. And frankly, I dislike Zac Efron anyway :P

*ahem* It appears as you haven't been updated yet...but its more that Zac Efron will not be playing the part of Sosuke Sagara...however, it looks like FMP is being adapted with a release being scheduled for 2011...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1412438/

[ztech]

join the club, i've been sitting here since the last ova that came out what, 4 years ago? rofl

Well, guys , until and if a new season ever comes out, ... Souske take care of Kaname and Tessa .. wish you guys the best in life.

[prnoct90]

So, is it confirmed that the next volume is the last?

[FeistyDreams]

So, is it confirmed that the next volume is the last?

Nothing is confirmed, Gatoh said the next book is the 'climax' but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the final installment. I'm personally of the opinion that it's going to take at least two books to wrap up all the loose ends. There's been no word on Gatoh's blog since the end of March though, he hasn't even announced the 11th volume of Sigma, which is unusual since it's been out for a few weeks now. Hopefully this means he's hard at work on the book, and not dodging us fans. =P

I think we have another two or three years of waiting on the books to finish, and maybe then we'll get another anime. One can hope anyways. *crosses fingers*

[Whitemoon648]

Take it with grain of salt but when i was searching google and just browsing the net, well i saw rumors that they are just waiting for the next volume is released, they will work on the next series.


I think what they are planning ( based on the same artcile i read a while back) to have one and only one more series.

Like they will combine all of the remaining volumes and make it into one series.


Again, not confirmed. But i think it is better than nothing.

[Revalent]

Take it with grain of salt but when i was searching google and just browsing the net, well i saw rumors that they are just waiting for the next volume is released, they will work on the next series.


I think what they are planning ( based on the same artcile i read a while back) to have one and only one more series.

Like they will combine all of the remaining volumes and make it into one series.


Again, not confirmed. But i think it is better than nothing.

That rumour has been going around for ages.

[Chidori<3]

yeah... but thanks that rumours I still have hope for next season xP

[Heminga13]

IMO the two books after Ending Day by Day would make a good "pre-final season" because of the end of that second one. I thought that would be a killer cliffhanger for the anime when I first read it. Also, it would give them the opportunity to add in some more comedic side-stories Fumoffu-style in between the two books or whatever to fill out the season.

[velvet nightmare]

bottom line, there's tons of material to animate

iirc kyoani had a tough time with the mecha and didnt like it all that much, and they're already making boatloads of money off the whole cute girls + comedy thing

and gonzo, well, last i heard they're still in the hole and i doubt they'd pick up where kyoani left off

[LeoXiao]

I want them to make a 74-episode long season out of the last novels, with a plot structured similar to that of Monster. That would be awesome.

[Full Metal Coast]

I want them to make a 74-episode long season out of the last novels, with a plot structured similar to that of Monster. That would be awesome.

yeah that would be pretty awesome but i when the last episodes get released the most that we'll get will be a 24 maybe 26 episode last series which would just focus on the main novels.

[Saymon]

It won't be awesome if KyoAni stay like this >_<

[Chidori<3]

It won't be awesome if KyoAni stay like this >_<

yeah.. :/

I don't know why FMP is such unpopular series... :twitch: it's much better then Haruri (for me)... and definitely better than that stupid Clannad:frustrated:

[strategos]

Are the Novel release on the STATES? How far are they from the end?

[Revalent]

haruhi gives me a headache, clannad.....

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I love FMP but there is no need to bash Clannad because that is one awesome series but Haruhi I don't give a crap about it :heh:

[strategos]

Are the series novels are being release in the STATES?

[FeistyDreams]

Are the Novel release on the STATES? How far are they from the end?

The first three novels (which are the 3 that the first season of the anime are based off) have been released in the states by Tokyopop, however the project is on an indefinite hiatus, so who really knows when or even IF more will come out. I can't say for sure, but I also believe that the three they did translate are no longer in print here, as it seems like they are out of stock most places with no sign of getting them back in.

[Full Metal Coast]

yeah.. :/

I don't know why FMP is such unpopular series... :twitch: it's much better then Haruri (for me)... and definitely better than that stupid Clannad:frustrated:

i dont mind haruhi and clannad but have to agree that FMP is better than them both by miles. but with haruhi and clannad i bet people arnt jacked around on release dates and such so the studios know what they are going to include in the next series. but unlike FMP gatoh just dropped of the face of the earth and left everyone hanging.

[Tragic]

Either way, we can all hope for at least one more season to finish it up. Like many people have said, one more season finishing up the main storyline would be nice, but that's going to have to wait since the books aren't finished yet.

To hold us on until then, Tokyopop needs to start releasing the novels again. Where is my volume 4?! xD

[strategos]

Are the Novels, in JApan, are nearing to the END?

[Full Metal Coast]

Are the Novels, in Japan, are nearing to the END?

nope in japan they are all realeased up to the second last one which is Approaching Nick Of Time. and everyone in the whole universe are all hanging out for the last one to be released.

[Yami Sonozaki]

Well if all the novels aren't released yet, they probably won't start production on another season.

[Alchemist007]

There's more than enough material to do at least another 2 seasons.

[Akka]

yeah.. :/

I don't know why FMP is such unpopular series... :twitch: it's much better then Haruri (for me)... and definitely better than that stupid Clannad:frustrated:
Though I agree that FMP us the best of the lot, they still are very good series (except for the E8 fiasco), and don't dare to badmouth Clannad or I'll go Sôsuke on you !

[Chidori<3]

Though I agree that FMP us the best of the lot, they still are very good series (except for the E8 fiasco), and don't dare to badmouth Clannad or I'll go Sôsuke on you !



sorry... but it was really one of the worst, sorry, THE WORST series, that I ever watched... ... I thought that I'll die during watching that series... it was really boring for me, but it's just my opinion

but, Clannad is not the topic of this thread... :heh:

IF they will make another season (but my hope is getting weaker, day bay day...) I think that they will cut lots of material form the novels... I'm pretty sure, that they will pass over most part of DVMC.. :/

[Heminga13]

Did anyone mention shutazen put up the NOT epilogue?

Edit - So I suddenly realized I thought I put this in the novel thread. Heh...

[Zarathustra]

http://www.makonako.net/

"Still not collapse actually. You guys living overseas may heard about "Afro Samurai", or if you are anime mania you should know "Strike Witches". The company making these titles is "GONZO". Its business is in trouble. Bankruptcy is a real possibility if GONZO can't get some funding from anywhere.
Oh my God...
GONZO had just been dismissed from the stock market on July 30, 2009. Its future deserves our attention. "


No more FMP!?:(

[ArkhanTheBlack]

Haruhi was great, though it could have been even a master piece if it woud have been a bit more consistent. The first epsisode was a real turn off, even if it was just meant as a joke.

Clannad was one the biggest dissapointments in years. The characters were far too shallow. I think the company also did Kanon before which was a lot better.

[Akka]

Haruhi was great, though it could have been even a master piece if it woud have been a bit more consistent. The first epsisode was a real turn off, even if it was just meant as a joke.

Clannad was one the biggest dissapointments in years. The characters were far too shallow. I think the company also did Kanon before which was a lot better.
:twitch:

(the smiley sums it up)

[velvet nightmare]

http://www.makonako.net/

"Still not collapse actually. You guys living overseas may heard about "Afro Samurai", or if you are anime mania you should know "Strike Witches". The company making these titles is "GONZO". Its business is in trouble. Bankruptcy is a real possibility if GONZO can't get some funding from anywhere.
Oh my God...
GONZO had just been dismissed from the stock market on July 30, 2009. Its future deserves our attention. "


No more FMP!?:(

dude, gonzo stopped making FMP a while ago, kyoani took over

[Tabasco]

Did anyone mention shutazen put up the NOT epilogue?

No, but thanks for pointing it out, I haven't looked at his site in a while.

[oompa loompa]

:twitch:

(the smiley sums it up)

A second to that. The only times I've seriously heard KyoAni getting bad bad publicity is right now, each to his own I guess.

[Michie_]

Yeah. KyoAni always does a extremely great job. I mean i really liked the first season but i loved season 2 and 3.
I really hope there will be a season 4 made by KyoAni.

[Full Metal Coast]

http://www.makonako.net/

"Still not collapse actually. You guys living overseas may heard about "Afro Samurai", or if you are anime mania you should know "Strike Witches". The company making these titles is "GONZO". Its business is in trouble. Bankruptcy is a real possibility if GONZO can't get some funding from anywhere.
Oh my God...
GONZO had just been dismissed from the stock market on July 30, 2009. Its future deserves our attention. "


No more FMP!?:(

yeah dude Gonzo lost FMP ages ago to Kyoani. but this bankrupcy means that my hope of getting another Gantz series is over.

[Subzero00]

did anyone get the Bluray release of the second raid. if so is the picture impressive or is it a poor conversion

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I'm gonna buy it this month then I'll let you know :p. It's a good thing I've only got Fumoffu boxset.

[Subzero00]

I'm gonna buy it this month then I'll let you know :p. It's a good thing I've only got Fumoffu boxset.

Do you have fumoffu on bluray

[The Quack-man]

As a matter of interest - has anyone yet purchased the new TSR Blu-ray set that has just been released?

Amazon are selling it for near half the marked price (USD46.00) with three reviews giving the product 5stars each while another just two?! I was thinking I should do my part for the FMP-cause & purchase a set because I severely doubt Aust. will see an official Blu-ray release any time soon :(
What special features are there, how much better does the Blu-ray look & sound compared to its Dvd counterpart?? Is it a dumbed-down version of the Japanese release?

[Cenit]

AFAIK they are region-locked for North America. Also don't expect much quality improvement as the series wasn't produced in HD but the price is very good so you should buy it if your BD-player can play it.

If i'm wrong about the region-locked part, please correct me as it's the only reason for me not buying them.

[Eak]

I think the mod's should change the thread title to, "Is there ever going to be a new FMP series?"

[akire_and_atem]

I think the mod's should change the thread title to, "Is there ever going to be a new FMP series?"

I second this

[Cenit]

I second this
indeed!

Guess as long as shouji gatoh refuses to finished the current plot it won't happen and even if he does koyan will most likly do some more Key stuff.

I mean they could have easily done a DVMC OVA-mini-series or movie by now. :upset:

[Celebrianna]

I mean they could have easily done a DVMC OVA-mini-series or movie by now. :upset:

Yeah, I was thinking that too, but I think they might want to make just one more series with all the books if the author ever finishes it. They could probably cover all that stuff in 24 episodes or so.

[Chidori<3]

They could probably cover all that stuff in 24 episodes or so.


24 ep for ALL 6 novels (DVMC,CMMD,BOMF,COMO,ANOT + the last one) ???

you must be joking ;)

all novels have 5 chapters so, if KyoAni will made 1 ep for all chapter it will be

30 ep.... but if they will part some chapters for 2 ep, the next series could have more or less 40 ep ?

I don't think so, that they will produce 40 ep series.. so if they will ever made next season, we will get much shorter version than the novels ;)

[Subzero00]

They got to end propley so it has to be atleast 40 to 50 episodes

[Eak]

They got to end propley so it has to be atleast 40 to 50 episodes

Which will probably never happen.

[cloak_and_dagger]

^ Unfortunately so..

Sometimes I wish I was a playboy billionaire and just pump funds so my favourite animes could be completed :(

...after I donate to charities and that stuff :)

[Meatrose]

40 to 50 episodes seems like overkill to me.

Full Metal Panic: Tatakau Boy Meets Girl was covered by Full Metal Panic! episodes 01-07.

Full Metal Panic: Hashiru One Night Stand was covered by Full Metal Panic! episodes 09-12.

Full Metal Panic: Yureru Into The Blue was covered by Full Metal Panic! episodes 18 and 20-24.

Full Metal Panic: Owaru Day by Day (Upper Volume) was covered by Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid episodes 05-07.

Full Metal Panic: Owaru Day by Day (Lower Volume) was covered by Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid episodes 07-13.

This means that the anime adaptation needed a total of 26 episodes to cover these five main plot novels. Five novels remain and a sixth is on the way. If they were to release DVMC as an OVA consisting of 3 standard length episodes it would be reasonable to believe that they would be able to cover main plot novels 7-11 by producing a 2 cour season. Back when Kyoto Animation was working on TSR they had never produced a 2 cour anime but since then they've created Kanon (2 cour anime), Lucky Star (2 cour anime) and Clannad (4 cour anime). It's not like they can't pull it off.

Problem is though, FMP and Haruhi are handled by Kadokawa. They own the rights. It's up to them if something that has anything to do with these two franchises gets to be animated. Just look at what they've done to the Haruhists, those poor souls. I haven't stopped hoping for the next season of FMP but I've stopped waiting for it. Anyhow, if they decide to animate the rest of the story I don't think they would need 40 to 50 episodes. Sure, it's not like they would have a problem filling that amount of episodes with high quality canon content and I sure as hell wouldn't complain if we got two additional 2 cour seasons, all I'm saying is that they probably wouldn't be forced to produce that many episodes in order to cover what's supposedly left of the main plot storyline.

[Cenit]

Your right. A 26 EP series with DVMC being released seperate would be the most likly thing .... but i doubt anything will happen in the near future. The kadokawa point sounds intresting to me. Well as you all know kyoani is already releasing haruhi 2 so lets hope that this will go for fmp as well after h is finished ^^

[Deadwings]

I think if we make this a gambling thread we can make a lot of money. :heh:
$20 to a 26 eps season and 4-5 OVAs covering the last two novels! :D

[Subzero00]

40 to 50 episodes seems like overkill to me.

Full Metal Panic: Tatakau Boy Meets Girl was covered by Full Metal Panic! episodes 01-07.

Full Metal Panic: Hashiru One Night Stand was covered by Full Metal Panic! episodes 09-12.

Full Metal Panic: Yureru Into The Blue was covered by Full Metal Panic! episodes 18 and 20-24.

Full Metal Panic: Owaru Day by Day (Upper Volume) was covered by Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid episodes 05-07.

Full Metal Panic: Owaru Day by Day (Lower Volume) was covered by Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid episodes 07-13.

This means that the anime adaptation needed a total of 26 episodes to cover these five main plot novels. Five novels remain and a sixth is on the way. If they were to release DVMC as an OVA consisting of 3 standard length episodes it would be reasonable to believe that they would be able to cover main plot novels 7-11 by producing a 2 cour season. Back when Kyoto Animation was working on TSR they had never produced a 2 cour anime but since then they've created Kanon (2 cour anime), Lucky Star (2 cour anime) and Clannad (4 cour anime). It's not like they can't pull it off.

Problem is though, FMP and Haruhi are handled by Kadokawa. They own the rights. It's up to them if something that has anything to do with these two franchises gets to be animated. Just look at what they've done to the Haruhists, those poor souls. I haven't stopped hoping for the next season of FMP but I've stopped waiting for it. Anyhow, if they decide to animate the rest of the story I don't think they would need 40 to 50 episodes. Sure, it's not like they would have a problem filling that amount of episodes with high quality canon content and I sure as hell wouldn't complain if we got two additional 2 cour seasons, all I'm saying is that they probably wouldn't be forced to produce that many episodes in order to cover what's supposedly left of the main plot storyline.

the thing is if they make a full metal panic season with 26 episode and only focus on main stuff it won't be the same fmp. they need at least 40 episode so they can add addional light harted stuff like they have been doing so far.

[Miles Teg]

the thing is if they make a full metal panic season with 26 episode and only focus on main stuff it won't be the same fmp. they need at least 40 episode so they can add addional light harted stuff like they have been doing so far.

The moment COMO start it's impossible to add light hearted stuff because all novel from here are direct continuation of the previous, and all the character are not in a situation where they can do light hearted stuff.

[Akka]

Clannad (4 cour anime).
Considering Clannad had 2 x 26 ep, I don't see why it would be unthinkable for FMP to also have 2 x 26 ep.

I take your word it would be feasable to cover it all in 26 ep, but I don't see why it's considered outlandish that they do it in 52, as they already did it with another serie.

[Miles Teg]

Considering Clannad had 2 x 26 ep, I don't see why it would be unthinkable for FMP to also have 2 x 26 ep.

I take your word it would be feasable to cover it all in 26 ep, but I don't see why it's considered outlandish that they do it in 52, as they already did it with another serie.

The thing is that with Clannad that was possible to start with simply a 26 episodes series (school part) and after the first DVD have been sold at 25000 unit each it was possible to decide to animate the ~ After Story ~ part.

To animate 52 episodes you need money (FMP is not a cash cow) and you also need materials and even using the short stories from "Side Arms 2 - Kyokuhoku Kara no Koe" I don't think they can do more than 36 episodes (BOMF can be done in 3 episodes for example).

[Deadwings]

Dunno you guys, but by this point I'll be satisfied with just a few OVAs covering some of the most important parts, and it doesn't even have to be chronological. Sort of like the recent ovas for Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles and xxxHolic, they just jump to some point in the story without caring for what they miss or how did the anime end etc. It's just that they really good quality and worth watching. I think something like that would be good for FMP.

[Murasaki]

The thing is that with Clannad that was possible to start with simply a 26 episodes series (school part) and after the first DVD have been sold at 25000 unit each it was possible to decide to animate the ~ After Story ~ part.

To animate 52 episodes you need money (FMP is not a cash cow) and you also need materials and even using the short stories from "Side Arms 2 - Kyokuhoku Kara no Koe" I don't think they can do more than 36 episodes (BOMF can be done in 3 episodes for example).

Maybe 4 or a bit more episodes at least? And the series ended um..4 years ago?
They need to refresh the audience with flashback or even recaps.
I guess if FMP new series won't appear in a year or 2 , they'll never appear.
Which is sad.

[Miles Teg]

Maybe 4 or a bit more episodes at least?

Not a lot of thing happen in BOMF and the AS fight can go rapidly so 3 episodes should be a good number (like for DVMC).

But I will ask a question to people who wants 50 episodes. Do you really want to have 12 fumoffu like episodes and 38 depressing/serious episodes after :confused: because it's exactly what will happen to make that much episodes.

[Murasaki]

They can make all the story in 25 episodes then + DVMC.
But I think FMP doesn't have such a big fanbase for example like 3-4 years ago.

[Akka]

Not a lot of thing happen in BOMF and the AS fight can go rapidly so 3 episodes should be a good number (like for DVMC).

But I will ask a question to people who wants 50 episodes. Do you really want to have 12 fumoffu like episodes and 38 depressing/serious episodes after :confused: because it's exactly what will happen to make that much episodes.
Well, honestly, I don't particularly "want" a set number of episodes.
I only want a WELL-DONE follow-up. I insist on the "well-done", because if they do another season of FMP to slaughter it with some kind of idiotic joke like Endless Eight, I prefer they abstain.
Better nothing that false hopes and bitter aftertaste ^^

I was only saying that 52 ep wasn't that much of a stretch considering other works, but as I said, I didn't read the novels past the fifth to not spoil myself, so I haven't the slightest idea about how much material there is in. If it can be well-done in 26, go for it ^^

[PNGO]

It's a pity they won't make a new season, but at least the manga is still going :P.

[Subzero00]

i think a fmp movie is a very good move. i'm pritty sure the movie will suck but the publicity may be whats required for a new season

[Akka]

It's a pity they won't make a new season, but at least the manga is still going :P.
Sadly the manga is very crappy, so it's not that much of a consolation.

[PNGO]

Sadly the manga is very crappy, so it's not that much of a consolation.

Well it does follow the novels, I know the art isn't the best but at least is something :D

[Akka]

It's something, but something bad. They completely lost the main appeal of the serie : the characters.
The subtlety and shades of the characters are thrown out of the window, and leave only their caricatured shells - a good example of mild flanderization (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.Flanderization).

I just don't recognize the characters I love : Sôsuke is only a psychotic killer watchdog instead of funningly out of place, Kaname feels bossy and masculine instead of willfull tsundere. I simply dislike them in the manga, while I adore them in the anime.

The manga just doesn't give justice to the serie.

[Full Metal Coast]

It's something, but something bad. They completely lost the main appeal of the serie : the characters.
The subtlety and shades of the characters are thrown out of the window, and leave only their caricatured shells - a good example of mild flanderization (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.Flanderization).

I just don't recognize the characters I love : Sôsuke is only a psychotic killer watchdog instead of funningly out of place, Kaname feels bossy and masculine instead of willfull tsundere. I simply dislike them in the manga, while I adore them in the anime.

The manga just doesn't give justice to the serie.

i complete ly agree with you Akka the Manga should be outlawed and never spoken of again as it is the retarded younger brother of the awesome anime and the light novels

[Kovikow]

i complete ly agree with you Akka the Manga should be outlawed and never spoken of again as it is the retarded younger brother of the awesome anime and the light novels


Ive only seen the early episodes in manga, (in the blue, short stories etc.) but its already like that there, as u say, I agree: Kaname is so agressive-like. Even on the drawings, without script. For example, I like the illustrations of the manga most, those are the Sous+Kan I imagine.. And there a lot of situations that are much more wild and negative in the manga, than in the anime series... :rolleyes:

[Akka]

Would you mind the SPOILERS FOR GOD'S SAKE ?

I swear that the next one who spoils anything is gonna get a report with no warning.

[Edit : the incriminating spoilerific message seems to have been removed. Thanks, mod !]

[Miles Teg]

Would you mind the SPOILERS FOR GOD'S SAKE ?

I swear that the next one who spoils anything is gonna get a report with no warning.

This sub-forum is full of spoiler, it's probably too late to do something about that :heh:

After all, all the novel have already been translated and most fan who come to this sub-forum have read them :D

[Akka]

As far as I know, it's not "FMP lights novels discussion", it's a thread about a new serie that may be released. Which means people who only have seen the anime may be reading.
Which means that if it's about novels that has not been released into anime yet, it should be kept in the novels' thread, not this one.

[Miles Teg]

Which means that if it's about novels that has not been released into anime yet, it should be kept in the novels' thread, not this one.

It's hard to speak about the feasibility of an anime without speaking about the original material so without spoiler.

This sub-forum is more or less not moderated and spoiler are absolutely everywhere, each and every thread should have a spoiler in the title nowadays :heh:

If you really don't want spoiler in this thread/sub-forum then call a moderator, it's the only way the problem will be resolved.

[Kovikow]

You're probably right about the thing with the series, if they ever do it, it will only be after the release of the last novel. Though I'm looking forward to the whole situation in the story, because it's so twisted now, don't you think?? I mean, at the first place the mission was only the usual to Sousuke, to save search for Kaname, and save her. But as we (the readers of ANOT) now know, Leonard said, that even if Sousuke rescues her, there will be other bad-guys that would also want to kidnap her because of the whispered-thing, and the re-making of the world.. Which I do not want!:uhoh: i'm curius to know, what will happen to them..:

[Celebrianna]

You're probably right about the thing with the series, if they ever do it, it will only be after the release of the last novel. Though I'm looking forward to the whole situation in the story, because it's so twisted now, don't you think?? I mean, at the first place the mission was only the usual to Sousuke, to save search for Kaname, and save her. But as we (the readers of ANOT) now know, Leonard said, that even if Sousuke rescues her, there will be other bad-guys that would also want to kidnap her because of the whispered-thing, and the re-making of the world.. Which I do not want!:uhoh: i'm curius to know, what will happen to them..:

I really hope the author doesn't go the way of "remaking the world." That kind of stuff would just make everything that came before like a blank slate, including all the experiences and sacrifices that made the character bonds stronger. I mean, though I would like to see Kurz alive again, it just wouldn't be the same to see him leading a different life where he never met Sousuke or Mui.

[Subzero00]

i think a fmp movie is a very good move. i'm pritty sure the movie will suck but the publicity may be whats required for a new season. Anyone agree?

[Akka]

Not really. If the movie sucks, it risks to give a bad name to the franchise at the whole, and reduce the likability for a new season.

And the manga is already doing its part at soiling the name without the need to add another stain :D

[rg4619]

A product still needs popularity to have a positive effect. This doesn't mean it has to be good, but enough people have to like and support it.

At this point, I don't think a movie will hurt - too much time has passed since the last series for the chances of continuation to be good (the American DVD market is also weak). However, a bad movie won't help either.

[Alchemist007]

Listening to the album Dark Horse By Nickelback, a lot of the songs remind me of this series.

[fallschirmjager]

Damn it I can't take it anymore.

I'm rewatching the anime... Again.

[Subzero00]

This is ridiculous just Announce the new anime already

[Ithekro]

Assuming it is still Kyoto Animation...we'll know when we know...and not a second before...and possibly not for months afterwards either.

[sammybaker]

Cant stand the suspense but I hope it turns out well. I liked the first series the best. Maybe they can do something along the lines of the first series? I like having small, short stories in the season rather that a continuous flow for several shows. Just my opinion :)

[sammybaker]

Oh yeah - Id like to see more young sexy commanders this time :) I guess they can show more of them in this part. Too many old guys would be too much hehehe!

[eigner]

Season 4 is being postponed by Kyoto , until the light novel series ends. The "climax" of the novel series is said to be in the next release, the anime will conclude the series once the book series has ended. If they released a fourth season this soon, a fifth season would be necessary to conclude the story arc. Therefor, there will be no fourth season until the novels have ended.

[Mugen26]

I do have high hopes that the series will be continued once the final novel is released. I mean, if series like Trigun and Inuyasha could get a revival after all of these years, it's given me a newly revived hope for Full Metal Panic to receive the same treatment. I just hope Gatou would release the final novel soon; I'm sure knowing Kyoto Animation they won't announce a new series until well after it's release

[Subzero00]

any new news yet?

[Alchemist007]

Gatou seems to be quite involved with the manga, that's about all the news there is right now.

[Kovikow]

Gatou seems to be quite involved with the manga, that's about all the news there is right now.

Shame, I don't like that graphics of the manga. :(

[Ithekro]

We know Kyoto Animation is working on a Haruhi movie for nexy Spring. Aside from that we don't know anything else they might be doing.

[HunterSeeker]

OK, here's something I heard from a local board......(Or SRWorld to be exact)
http://www.mandarake.co.jp/information/column/modaeki/00/33/index.html
"フルメタのアニメがまた決まったそうで！声優陣は変わらないでほしいと思います。短編アニメかな？と期待を 膨らませましたがどうやら長編・・・なのですよね？
長編は暗くなるので、フルメタアニメ派の方観るなら少々覚悟しておいたほうがいいかもしれませ ん。
アニメ化に、実写版・・・た、楽しみ過ぎますよ。アニメの歌はもちろん下川みくにさん希望です！わわわわ、 もう胸が躍ります。"
It's unknown how reliable the source is, but it's known that the writer works in a book store so it's possible for him to read NewType before hand.
We need some more time to make sure, but if it's true......FUCK YES.

[Yu Ominae]

The link also has a post on a cop manga. Which looks good, the typical cop buddy-type one from first impressions.

[akire_and_atem]

OK, here's something I heard from a local board......(Or SRWorld to be exact)
http://www.mandarake.co.jp/information/column/modaeki/00/33/index.html
"フルメタのアニメがまた決まったそうで！声優陣は変わらないでほしいと思います。短編アニメかな？と期待を 膨らませましたがどうやら長編・・・なのですよね？
長編は暗くなるので、フルメタアニメ派の方観るなら少々覚悟しておいたほうがいいかもしれませ ん。
アニメ化に、実写版・・・た、楽しみ過ぎますよ。アニメの歌はもちろん下川みくにさん希望です！わわわわ、 もう胸が躍ります。"
It's unknown how reliable the source is, but it's known that the writer works in a book store so it's possible for him to read NewType before hand.
We need some more time to make sure, but if it's true......FUCK YES.

could someone please translate this pretty please?!

I'm still in the process of learning Japanese, but damn economy left me without any money to continue my studies >.<

[FeistyDreams]

could someone please translate this pretty please?!

I'm still in the process of learning Japanese, but damn economy left me without any money to continue my studies >.<

The first sentence is just saying that a new FMP anime is happening, everything else is just the person's thoughts on it. Things like "I hope they don't change the voice actors" and "Is it gonna be long or short?" and "I hope the songs are performed by Shimokawa Mikuni!" (I ad-libbed most of this just to condense it... that's the gist of what's being said) *shrugs* Nothing else about what's actually going on with it.

[Alchemist007]

God I hope the source is accurate

[Subzero00]

whats the chances this source is reliable

[Full Metal Coast]

the source probably knows no more than we do.
but still be positive if inuyasha is finally getting finished the there is hope for FMP

[fallschirmjager]

Everyday I hold my breath as I view this topic.

I just keep hoping to find this gigantic link of "NEW FMP! SERIES CONFIRMED!"

Someday... Someday.

But when will this someday come? ;(

[Full Metal Coast]

Everyday I hold my breath as I view this topic.

I just keep hoping to find this gigantic link of "NEW FMP! SERIES CONFIRMED!"

Someday... Someday.

But when will this someday come? ;(

bhahaha. so do i fallsch, so do i

[Nappy Hared Azn]

But when will this someday come? ;(
IMHO, it all depends on how well the upcoming AS models and novel sell. If the people behind the anime (whoever that is this time around) see money in the series, they'll try to release it while the cash cow still has giant, sagging udders. If sales are mediocre, then the show might get pushed further back on their list of profitable series'. Do your part and go buy FMP! merchandise. NAO. There's no need to wait until the new shit is out. Go spend money like it's 1920s America. Nothing bad happened there, right?

[Alchemist007]

okane irimasu! It is on my priority list though.
The Blu-ray of TSR is on amazon for only $41 right now. Pretty good deal, cheaper than the dvds! Too bad I don't have a blu-ray player, don't really want one since my tv doesn't have hdmi.

[tantei okuoku]

once haruhi stops eating up all there time and the books really finish then we will see the next season that is my guess

[darkdarkdark]

once haruhi stops eating up all there time and the books really finish then we will see the next season that is my guess

My same thoughts. I am 100% sure they will finish the series. They just need some time to do it.

Anyways, I would prefer they work on it longer, and produce a masterpiece, rather than just shove out some junk. :p

[Akka]

My same thoughts. I am 100% sure they will finish the series. They just need some time to do it.
"some" time ? :p
They have been taking "some" time for a VERY long time until now :D

[cloak_and_dagger]

If the people behind the anime (whoever that is this time around) see money in the series, they'll try to release it while the cash cow still has giant, sagging udders.

^ That part made me LOL :heh: :heh:

[gaffer7]

"some" time ? :p
They have been taking "some" time for a VERY long time until now :D

Couldn't have put it better myself. Years we've waited for this one, instead we get Endless Eight :(

[fallschirmjager]

If the people behind the anime (whoever that is this time around) see money in the series, they'll try to release it while the cash cow still has giant, sagging udders.

In which case we can only hope said cash cow devlops a bad case of mastitis and dies.

[darkdarkdark]

I know that they will come out with the series. I've grown impatient too though. :(

[Scithe]

I've been looking forward to a 4th series as well.