Cable Vs Dsl [Archive] - AnimeSuki Forum

Cammie

2003-11-22, 14:07

OK! I need everyones opinion on this? I'm probably, posting on the section also? but I'm sure a kind mod will direct this thread to the right forum.

To the question: I'm having a difficult time trying to decide whether to get cable or dsl? I could probably get something similar to a T1 but......... do I really need that? You all know the faster the better. OK! hope to see your opinions!

Cammie

Dark Zero

2003-11-22, 14:35

Cable, its about the same price as DSL but much faster. T1 is for college or companies and up, thats a high price, doubt you and get it or afford it. The high cost of T* lines just don't justify it for home use. You need the cabling, etc etc etc.....and if you not networking many PCs, now theres no point in T1 or higher. DSL does nicely, but CABLE IMO is much better.

Superchop

2003-11-22, 15:10

Gaara11

2003-11-22, 16:16

I'm beginning to see a pattern here...hmmm....

I have cable and no complaints here about speed either.

Nothing Special

2003-11-22, 16:16

I've been using DSL for a few years. Cable's not available in my area.

Generally, the best thing to do is to ask your neighbors about their service. Just because I get good DSL service here doesn't mean you'll get good service there, see what I'm saying?

With cable, your speeds decline the more people log on. That's why it's important to ask your neighbors about their experience. If they're telling you that around dinner time, they get 56k speeds, then that's something good to know, right?

With DSL, the bandwidth is "reserved" for you. However, DSL is generally more expensive. I'm paying $90 a month for a 1.5/768 line. Some ISPs are offering 3Mbps DSL, so you can't really say cable is faster, but it's 5x more expensive than an equivalent cable line.

Anywho, good luck!

Galaxy

2003-11-22, 16:49

yea, I'm using ADSL, I like it, I have a line thats sepose to go up to 3Mbps down and 680kbps up, but I think there's a problem with the download line or something since uploads are fine, but when it comes to down = not too great, anyways..... ask other ppl in your neighborhood since like Nothing Special said, its diffrent from area to area, also what sucks about DSL is that the further you are from a "hub" less better speeds that you will get

JAppi

2003-11-22, 18:31

Yes, the distance between the hub and you makes a huge difference with DSL. When they first set it up for me they actually made a mistake and hooked us up to the wrong "hub" so our speed was rather pathetic. All they did was hook us up to the correct hub which is about 2 houses down and now it's fairly decent.

1.5mbit dl / 512 kbit ul for about 30 bucks canadian.

gravitation

2003-11-22, 19:36

i have adsl, its better than dial up i admit but i would still like faster...o yeah my connection says this : Upstream/Downstream Rate (kbps): 288/576 ...i was just wondering how good or bad that is?

CommS007

2003-11-22, 21:15

Here in the Neths, we got soo many providers.
Which are also tested in down/up speed, connection and pings >.>

For Cable and SDSL, there are 2 here the best for me.
Both for 80 bucks a month for the max/plus/super subscription.

Cable: 3Mbit down, 384 Kbit up, fair use policy.
SDSL: 2~8 MBit down, 1Mbit up, fair use policy.

(the minimum subscription down/up 512/256 Kbit/s costs about 20 bucks a month)

In Belgium, there are like only 2 providers and not so good either.
I have cable there >.>...
Up and download limit; Download: 17.5 GB a month, up: 2.5 GB a month...
Also same price and about 3 Mbit down and 128 Kbit up.

I think you need to check what's available and what they provide :)

JAppi

2003-11-22, 23:59

shouldn't this thread be in the discussion section?

krel

2003-11-23, 10:03

go for DSL...i have cable and it's very easy to use, unlike DSL which can cause problems. i remember the first time i had DSL here, caused all kinda probs with the phone line. also, couldn't use the phone while using the net cause there would be static heard on the phone line. this is easily fixable using a filter though. i like DSL cause you have a "private" line, so to speak, you don't have to share bandwith with others. call me selfish, but i don't wanna share. my cable is a "shared" pipeline, so at night-time it slows down quite a bit.

Darren Garrison

2003-11-23, 15:02

I think I must be the only person on my cable line taking cable internet-- my speed never drops below the rated speed (never below 786kbs when I had that, and never below 2mbs not that the system has upgraded).

Cammie

2003-11-24, 05:04

Thanks guys.... Lots of great opinions

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/otn/ppeace1.gif

I just called the cable company. **MUAH** thanks

gravitation

2003-11-24, 13:16

ermm lol just out of curiosity wheres the discussion section?
P.S cammie u go gal

GHDpro

2003-11-24, 17:47

method

2003-11-24, 17:54

check out www.dslreports.com. They have probably have subscriber reviews of each service in your area.

dragonz20

2003-11-24, 17:57

WAAAHHH!!! THe great GHDpro-sama has spoken!...

*crumbles on his knees and begins worshipping* :bow:

but as to the topic of discussion at hand, based on personal experience, Cable is the way the go but it really depends on the area. some prefer cable and some prefer DSL. Cammie seemed to have already made up her mind though so...

*continues worshipping GDHpro*

Hmm not entirely sure what the best section would be, but as
this thread isn't directly BitTorrent related I've moved it to General Chat.

As for my opinion on the matter: I think the important part would
be speed and not the technology (ADSL or Cable). Also for convinience
I'd get something where you get a ethernet modem with dhcp
(and no PPPoE) as that would be easy to connect to pretty much
everything, including PC/Mac/XBox/PS2 and broadband routers.
USB modems and/or PPPoE don't make this half as easy...

wnkryo

2003-11-24, 18:48

cable ownd dsl. (period)

p3psi

2003-11-24, 19:28

Ok, Cable is 2x faster than dsl on the average.
However, cable internet by itself (if you dont have cable tv) costs 55-60 bucks a month.

you can get dsl for 30 bucks a month, and for some companies, thats a fixed rate and not a special.

But i say, i would pay the extra 30 bucks a month to get 300kbps+ with cable than with the 150kbps+ with dsl

Lefteris_D

2003-11-24, 20:08

I've had some experience with a couple of DSL modems(from Siemens & Intracom) and both used PPPoE to perform the connection.
The best thing they had was the fact that they had both a USB port and an ethernet port as a PC-Modem interface.

The only problems so far were only caused by the fact that parts of the network(phone lines) are quite old.

Both modems had a dhcp option(disable, dhcp server, routing data to an external dhcp).

PiGGiEE

2003-11-25, 01:09

Only cable is available where I live... and I'm lucky I can even get that...

But I love my cable... just yesterday I was dl'in anime at speeds over 175kb/s... it was just amazing!!! The speed!! The beauty!!! The quicker I can watch my animes!!! :heh:

But I heard that if there are alot of people in the same area that's hooked up then it can be slow at times... dunno if this is true... its only happened to me a few times.. usually during the weekends... and I kinda live in the boonies so not too many people are hooked up...
But the cable service has been great! Haven't had a problem yet. :D

Aekei

2003-11-25, 01:19

The slow down is certainly true... I live in an area where almost everyone has cable... and my download speeds rarely go above 10 kbs...

Tea Pad

2003-11-25, 01:29

Yes, I used to have cable but it was horrendously slow during peak hours (anywhere from 4pm - 11pm). DSL is slower on the whole but much more consistent.

BME

2003-11-25, 11:32

Cable all the way...nothing beats d/ling at speeds over 100kbs ^_^

always connected...from the second you turn on the comp, never have to dial up, phone line doesn't get tied up...ah, so many advantages...

and if i remember correctly...cable is faster then T1

Funny, my ADSL line doesn't tie up the phone line, I don't have to log in and my top speed is around 320kb/s

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload5/BT.JPG

I once had Cable too, I usually downloaded around 40kb/s, sometimes 80-120kb/s but never higher than that.

But my slow days are over, I´m getting vDSL this winter, 10MB/s DL 9MB/s UL.
But I am a bit jealous of BBBs fiber customers, they get 100MB/s DL this spring.

p3psi

2003-11-25, 12:28

Here's a another thing, if you have "old" phone lines, by that i mean, you live in a house were they installed the phone lines like 20-30 plus years ago, You probally wont get 320kbps, you will only get around 100kbps

Oh, and dsl comes in diffrent packages, you can get the same speed as cable, but you're gonna pay about the same or even more.

but if you live in an old house, you probally wont have a choice on faster packages because your phone lines suck. or they will charge you for the higher package if you choose it, and you will only be using like 50% of your potential bandwidth but paying 100% of the price. And you cant complain cuz you never had dsl before and you dont know if the speed you have is normal or not.

Moon The Cat

2003-11-25, 23:01

I have ADSL, and you guys wouldn't believe how much I pay for it.. (256kbs)

Dark Zero

2003-11-25, 23:38

Funny, my ADSL line doesn't tie up the phone line, I don't have to log in and my top speed is around 320kb/s

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload5/BT.JPG

I once had Cable too, I usually downloaded around 40kb/s, sometimes 80-120kb/s but never higher than that.

But my slow days are over, I´m getting vDSL this winter, 10MB/s DL 9MB/s UL.
But I am a bit jealous of BBBs fiber customers, they get 100MB/s DL this spring.

How about going here and giving me a real test eh? And don't edit it, makes you cheap........do a test with a 1mb transfer!

www.eng.nac.net go to the "throughput tester" area

Superchop

2003-11-25, 23:44

Funny, my ADSL line doesn't tie up the phone line, I don't have to log in and my top speed is around 320kb/s

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload5/BT.JPG

I once had Cable too, I usually downloaded around 40kb/s, sometimes 80-120kb/s but never higher than that.

But my slow days are over, I´m getting vDSL this winter, 10MB/s DL 9MB/s UL.
But I am a bit jealous of BBBs fiber customers, they get 100MB/s DL this spring.

Well, i might of been wrong about most of the things...but here around where i live we dont have all the options that you guys have...it's either dsl (which is as expensive as cable but slower) or cable...

IPv6

2003-11-25, 23:48

I used to link dsl but cable is the way to go ... unless I can vdsl (T1 speed both up and down).

Dark Zero

2003-11-25, 23:57

I used to link dsl but cable is the way to go ... unless I can vdsl (T1 speed both up and down).

Why not just go with a 1mbit cable line then? Seems like a better choice.....or maybe not :D Thats your call.

Love Witch

2003-11-26, 09:13

I have ADSL, and compared to my neice, who has cable, my BT dl speed is always way faster.
She probably did something wrong, she had about 20kb dl as max :s
But I have an average speed of 160kb dl :d

Mad Cat

2003-11-26, 11:30

Americas prices on Dsl and cable are so high, in sweden i pay 280kr for Dsl wth an upload of 50 and the same goes for download.
Viva la swedens Dsl and Cables

Archuka

2003-11-26, 12:33

The DSL services in southern Finland are quite poor and the cable services slow down to modem speeds when connecting to servers located outside Finland.

Here's a list on the DSL services offered by Sonera, which I believe is the most used (though shitty) operator in Finland.

512 kbit/s / 512 kbit/s 48e/month
1 Mbit/s / 512 kbit/s 61.99e/month
2 Mbit/s / 512 kbit/s 104.61e/month

So expensive, yet so slow. :(

BME

2003-11-26, 12:48

How about going here and giving me a real test eh? And don't edit it, makes you cheap........do a test with a 1mb transfer!

www.eng.nac.net go to the "throughput tester" area

That´s from an american server right? It was pretty slow. When I tested 1MB it said I had a 512kbps connection and when I tested 16MB it said I had a 743kbps connection

This is how it´s done

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/TPTest.gif

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/tp305swe.zip <-- the Swedish IT Commsion´s offical bandwith tester

How much does a 0.5MB/s ADSL connection cost in America Anyways? My 2.5MB/s is only 449kr/month (wich is about $58 counting on the present exchange course, but that´s only because a certain president has made the dollar cheaper than toilet paper)

I still stand by the fact that ADSL is still better than cable, even if 0.5MB/s is the only DSL option.

Asura

2003-11-26, 13:06

my opinion:

DSL: it's consistent but it also depend on the quality of the phone line. Where I live.. basically 1 company owns all the lines.. And it's pretty much suck. A friend of mine who's running 56k modem can barely get over 28k in his area..
the 1 thing i find inconvenient with DSL, you got to sign a 1 year contract.

Cable: Pretty much all been said, but most cable provider i know of don't even necessiate a contract.. As of now, I'm running cable because they got the special 20 bucks deal/ month for 6 month.. after that... I'll start looking for new provider for sure. It's the "I can bail anytime" deal that's comfort me..in case bad things happen.

Dark Zero

2003-11-26, 18:27

That´s from an american server right? It was pretty slow. When I tested 1MB it said I had a 512kbps connection and when I tested 16MB it said I had a 743kbps connection

This is how it´s done

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/TPTest.gif

http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/tp305swe.zip <-- the Swedish IT Commsion´s offical bandwith tester

How much does a 0.5MB/s ADSL connection cost in America Anyways? My 2.5MB/s is only 449kr/month (wich is about $58 counting on the present exchange course, but that´s only because a certain president has made the dollar cheaper than toilet paper)

I still stand by the fact that ADSL is still better than cable, even if 0.5MB/s is the only DSL option.

No point in me using you link as thats swedish now is there? But I rounded out with my link at 3600kbps. DSL here, well in my general area is expensive, about 50-70$ depending on the contract, and I think its the bottom of the barrel DSL connection, no ADSL.

Dark Zero

2003-11-26, 18:45

Sorry for 2nd post!!

Never use server location as an excuse! It does help, but regardless, it shouldn't be a factor, which it is -_-.....but still. And I never said Adsl is worse or better, its all in the user. Well I used YOUR servers and heres my results....

http://server4.uploadit.org/files/261103-test2a.jpg

dot|hack

2003-11-26, 20:13

Lets play "guess my connection"
http://server4.uploadit.org/files/261103-guess.jpg

gravitation

2003-11-26, 20:24

lol dot hack is it errmmmm 8386kbps ? o yeah i was wondering...ya know this T1 everyone has been mentioning i understand that its really fast but how much does it cost, i bet its alot!?

Flash_Squirrel

2003-11-26, 20:28

Lets play "guess my connection"
http://server4.uploadit.org/files/261103-guess.jpg

My car is faster.

Oneesama

2003-11-27, 06:12

I've been using Dsl for at least 3 yrs now........ I think Cable is more of a community network......say[ correct me if I am wrong] if your neighborhood all using cables, then your chances of getting a lower dl rate is high..... yet on the other hand, if not many are using cable, then your dl rate will be faster......in at local, our cable network disb'tion is limited from like 100 "cable hub" per a number of Blocks of housing.... so that area of houses have to share the 100 cables...... and so if the #of housing overflows then your cable will run slower........ or someting like that.....Unlike Dsl.... it probably does have a limit too... but in a greater #........ so it always goes "fast".... I personally suggest Dsl...... :D

Guu

2003-11-29, 06:14

Lets play "guess my connection"

LoL that's gotta be T3, right?
How about mine?;)
http://home.pchome.com.tw/myhome/guuchan2003/bwtest.jpg

gravitation

2003-11-29, 09:37

awwww so many of you have fast connections, tis no fair :(

Lee-pimp

2003-11-29, 17:27

i have cable but it includes in my tv bill cus i have optimum online and cablevison and optimum is a branch of cablevision so for me itd be the same price as dsl and lots faster btw mine doesnt slow down....ever so i dont know what you people are talking about

eXistenZ

2003-11-29, 23:02

this is mine, mind ya its from western canada to stockholm sweden, which is basically a continent and ocean to cross.

its sat evening as well so it is slow.

http://members.shaw.ca/eternalotaku/test.jpg

this is a local speed test

http://members.shaw.ca/eternalotaku/test2.jpg

Forse

2003-11-30, 10:30

Hmm not entirely sure what the best section would be, but as
this thread isn't directly BitTorrent related I've moved it to General Chat.

As for my opinion on the matter: I think the important part would
be speed and not the technology (ADSL or Cable). Also for convinience
I'd get something where you get a ethernet modem with dhcp
(and no PPPoE) as that would be easy to connect to pretty much
everything, including PC/Mac/XBox/PS2 and broadband routers.
USB modems and/or PPPoE don't make this half as easy...

I disagree on that one. I am happy user of 10/10mbit VDSL with PPPoE. There is port for PPPoE on almost every OS (mac/BSD/Linux/Windows using rp-pppoe). dhcp might be easier, but new kernel mode PPPoE is just as good. I pay quite much for my line, but I am happy :) I would also suggest to look at speed and not technology. Also stay away from USB modems. I have a friend who's DSL gets disconnected every 3h. Best thing would be to get outside modem and connect it via NIC

P.S. I have dedicated line, that means I can ALWAYS reach my 10mbit if other end can send that fast.