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Freakman
2004-06-17, 18:27
I do have a big question for Gainax : what the hell was this all about ?
Even the ending morals is screwed.
[My take on it]
Hikari & Akari both disappear from this world, yet Hikari says she will return.
And Takeru keeps waiting ...
Hikari & Akari were both created as a result of Takeru and Ryou emotional unstability. Hikari was there to teach Takeru what it meant to love, and Akari was there to teach Ryou what it meant to have a family. [the final plot twist with Ryou was really contrived :( ]
So Akari goes away, and Ryou goes to look for his family.
Wouldn't the most reasonable (yet even then very predictable) option have been to let Takeru fall in love with Mari ?
No, he chooses to keep waiting for Hikari.
Some may consider Takeru's attitude to be "be faithful to the one you love", but in this case, it really seems to me Gainax is saying chasing after rainbows is a good thing.
I guess i could go as far as to say it doesn't surprise me, since i bet this is reflecting Gainax screenwriter's personalities :D
Let the fight begin... even though it probably won't start before it's fansubbed ^^
dreamless
2004-06-17, 18:36
well, I guess it's related to the oriental view of love. one true love for one life-time. Anyway it's a better ending than what I have expected :heh:
Some may consider Takeru's attitude to be "be faithful to the one you love", but in this case, it really seems to me Gainax is saying chasing after rainbows is a good thing.
Takeru sees in Hikari what he saw in his mother, that's why he pledged his utter love for her at the cost of gaining her rejection. He wanted not to let her go just like her mother went away from him.
AkihaTohno
2004-06-17, 21:26
so no one died?
USCPharmacist
2004-06-17, 23:05
Don't worry, the terrorists will finish Hikari's job.
Did Gainax happen to advertise for their next anime series at the end of episode 12 like they did at the end of episode 12 of Yumeria? If they didn't, then does anyone know what Gainax next project will be and any info about it?
.Rurouni.
2004-06-18, 02:54
if you look at konomini.com they have announced a movie I think. But Konomini can't end like this :(
1st off Ending sucked I hoped better sucked
Alternetivly its okay...
Hikari and Akari disappear NO!!!
Season 2 must be needed
2nd Mari suks
3rd NOO... Akari, Hikari left!!! :'( ima sad now.
Must watch movie. Serious
Ruroni. Are you sure there will be a movie?
Anthriel
2004-06-18, 12:09
So ... the ending was just as bad as I thought. Well ... the anime as a whole was bad, so it doesn't really matter. At least I will remember it for quite some time due to one line: "If you can't kill me right now, say you love me!" That's just ridiculos. ^^;;
um.. nothing like that happened
exept um.. please dont run away from me
Well if there is no movie or 2nd season to konomini than I can clearly state that the ending did not finish up the story at all, instead left a cliffy.
Also is there some sort of prelude or place where I should understand how the whole series decide on concept of 7th extinction?
Anthriel
2004-06-18, 14:03
um.. nothing like that happened
exept um.. please dont run away from me
Episode 11, 20:34
Mephisto03
2004-06-18, 16:44
So ... the ending was just as bad as I thought. Well ... the anime as a whole was bad, so it doesn't really matter. At least I will remember it for quite some time due to one line: "If you can't kill me right now, say you love me!" That's just ridiculos. ^^;;
Sorry but I don't see how this is a bad line. Its very convincing and striking towards hikari. If she can't kill him why would she have the trouble of saying I love you and vice versa if she can't say it then why not just kill him and stop running. Your view on this line being bad is well your oponion so I won't try to change it but it was hardly a bad line or stupid one to say to someone. I'm sure many people can relate to this quote in some way or another with someone.
Okay okay, Screw the ending. And let just hope for season2 or movie.
If any one can read japanese. Please go to http://www.konomini.com/ to inform us will there be future plans for this project? Just want to send a email to the director ending sucks. :mad:
U know wuts better? OVA. That would be nice
But, Most OVA is stupid shit and review over the season.:mad: one of the reason I hate animes.
:( Hikari left. Akari left. Im really sad
Just a note: If Takeru was so lonely in the begin with. He was blessed with an angel. His ideal girl i guess. And at the ending, he let her go. Wtf is that? Thats what made ending sucks. Especially when the main character is blessed with a solution that solves his problem in the begin with. Just makes me mad :mad: :(
dreamless
2004-06-18, 21:39
hmm... why everyone dislike the ending so much? I think it's decent, and better than I have expected...
I think it's a good ending to Konomini, and I don't know how they can do better with a 2nd season. The only way to end it better is to kill off everyone, but I highly doubt that'll happen...
Ur are an evil evil person
This anime is post to be happy and shit like that. The distruction of the world is some peace of bs that the director put it in that i didnt like! :mad: If they killed everyone in season2(if there would be a season 2)it would be messed up. any ways :mad: i dont like the ending.
dreamless
2004-06-18, 22:42
Well first thanks for the compliment, I'm really grateful that you called me an evil evil person :cool: I've tried for 20+ years trying to get people call me that but so far you are one of the only few successes that I've made :D
Now I kinda wonder if you don't like destruction of world stuff and want all happy everyone together ending, why watch Konomini? Or why watch Gainax animes? I'd say watch stuffs like Gravion, Love Hina, Yumeria, Maburaho etc. etc. There are tons of all happy ending animes out there, and the choice is yours. ;)
Anyway Konomini is just Gainax's "lightweight show" of this year, just wait for the heavyweights to come in, Re: Cutie Honey and Gunbuster 2 OVA. now if they mess up the Gunbuster franchise... there will be some random innocent people stabbing... :p
Hi, i'm new, but i really want to voice my opinion about the ending and that is: I hope with all my heart that it is not the real end. I mean, i respect Gainax's hard work and their philosopy about life, but cant they just make ONE good ending!?
I'm not saying that the ending of the series is BAD, but it just makes the whole story wretched! Cant they just let Takeru and Hikari be!? And Mari, oh she's a good girl, but a annoying one (apologies to all Mari fans, gomen).
*Sigh* Konomini really makes me consider never watch Gainax anime again seriously.
Oh, and i found something indecent on Gainax's website:
http://www.gainax.co.jp/anime/konomini/gallery.html
Scroll to the bottom, look left...(WTF!)
to dreamless: YOu evil person. I watch all of those anime any ways so HAH! Maburaho sucked. Once i thought about it. Love Hina ending was crappy too. Yumeria had decient.
WHY KONO MINIKUKU MO UTSUKUSHII SEKAI!!!??? Damn you Gainax.
Saber. I wish that too. Im just hoping season 2 or a OVA(OVA tend to be stupid) or Movie?(hopfully a good one) Just hoping the ending will be a fuzzy wuzzy. Since the series attend to be fuzzy wuzzy(besides the whole monster and the 7th exitintion other than that fuzzy wuzzy anime dont'cha think?).
Drank starbucks new vanilla bean drink and made my friday all better again :D
Yes, the whole series is kinda lame~ >< But i dun give a damn about human extinxtion, Gainax is always bluffing on that kind of shit. I just want Hikari BACK!!!!!!!!
But i dun think that the chance of having an OVA or movie would be great, what Jennifer said b4 the OP in the last ep makes the ending seem definite. Her tone just seem to like nail the whole thing down---no continuation allowed, no hope... *tears*
Gainax really gives me headaches.
P.S. would it piss the ppl on the forum off if i use a huge sig(like 600*800)?
dreamless
2004-06-19, 01:38
Yes, the whole series is kinda lame~ >< But i dun give a damn about human extinxtion, Gainax is always bluffing on that kind of shit. I just want Hikari BACK!!!!!!!!
But i dun think that the chance of having an OVA or movie would be great, what Jennifer said b4 the OP in the last ep makes the ending seem definite. Her tone just seem to like nail the whole thing down---no continuation allowed, no hope... *tears*
Gainax really gives me headaches.
P.S. would it piss the ppl on the forum off if i use a huge sig(like 600*800)?
It won't piss people off (at least not me), but it will piss the mods off, which is worse... XD
If you ask me, the title "This Ugly and Beautiful World" is way off, the opening intro about "extinction" is way off, the cruel-angel-thesis-style OP is way off. When I first saw the title and the website cover, I thought it was related to Kino no Tabi XD
In the end it's just a love story, nothing about "ugly" or "beautiful" world, except sometimes some characters say one or two lines like "this ugly world", "this beautiful world". You guys who want a happy wuzzy fuzzy ending should ask Gainax to change the OP to a more wuzzy fuzzy kind of song, cut out all the extinction and human instrumentality stuff, and change the title to "Chobits"... and you'll get Chobits... oh and "Video Girl Ai" could be another good fitting title for it... :p
BTW, kinda wondering, if you can stand the story in Fate/stay night, I don't see why you can't stand the ending to Konomini ;)
BTW, kinda wondering, if you can stand the story in Fate/stay night, I don't see why you can't stand the ending to Konomini
WHO SAYS I CAN!? I CANT, I NEVER CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*tears all over my keyboard*
Sheesh, but the game as the the subtitle "初回限定版" says is only the first part or the first volume, something like that, it's difficult to translate. So there might very well be a continuation, i still have some hope u know.
dreamless
2004-06-19, 02:16
Hmm... 初回限定版 translates to more like "Special Limited Edition"... like it has some gifts bundled etc. etc. and not really a "subtitle"... :p
well, sad stories will always has more impact than happy stories... but then Konomini is not exactly a sad story, no one dies. maybe a bittersweet ending? anyway I love bittersweet endings :D
O.o! but 初回 should mean first round or somthing like that. If not a subtitle then what is it?
Dont crumble my only hope, will ya?
And u call that bittersweet huh? Yes it aint no sad story, but the ending just sucks.
dreamless
2004-06-19, 02:41
初回 should be "first time", yup so the literal translation should be "First Time Limited Edition", meaning it's the first batch of the game release which usually only comes via pre-oders and with some extra gifts to reward the buyer's enthusiasm of pre-ordering or buying the game early. It's like labels such as "Collector's Edition" and "Game of the Year Edition" in "Baldur's Gate 2 Collector's Edition" and "Deus Ex GOTY Edition". I'm not really sure what it should be called (edition label?), but I don't think it's called subtitle :p
whether an ending sucks or not largely depends on personal tastes, as I'd think a happy wuzzy fuzzy ending suck. well, you can't please everyone at the same time. when you try to please everyone, most of the time you end up with a mediocre product, while if you do something not for the purpose to please everyone, it will become a hit-or-miss title. IMO one of the major reasons that Gainax becomes the studio which a lot of anime fans love today is that it got guts to do titles not for the purpose to please everyone, that it's brave enough to do hit-or-miss titles that's loved by some and hated by others. But then I guess lately it is trying to do some "crowd pleasers", and Konomini could be such a product... :rolleyes:
stupid dreamless if you havent noticed this anime is one of those Happy fuzzy wuzzy anime!
What does the main girl character looks like? Totally innocent hotty!
What the support main's are? Total lil girl cutie! So i dont know what your thinking dood.
I WANT MY FUZZY WUZZY ENDING NOW!!!
Need season2 Hopfully Gainax is kind enough they'll post a season2 just like mahoromatic2
dreamless
2004-06-19, 04:41
what the opening intro said? six extinctions.
what the OP song is about? say goodbye to the world.
what's the signature art of the show? crimson butterfly.
what does the main girl character looks like? totally non-innocent evil hotty.
http://server5.uploadit.org/files/spiggy-HikariClub2secca.JPG
(borrowed from spiggy)
stupid paiser that's more than enough evidence that this show is obviously not a happy wuzzy fuzzy show. :D
初回 should be "first time", yup so the literal translation should be "First Time Limited Edition", meaning it's the first batch of the game release which usually only comes via pre-oders and with some extra gifts to reward the buyer's enthusiasm of pre-ordering or buying the game early.
Then there must be a second batch! like Fate/Stay Night 2 or whatever.
what the opening intro said? six extinctions.
So what, Hikari said she loved the world, it's the difference from the last six times that makes the whole story worthy to be told. If the 7th sextinction took place, then what's the point of making this anime, it'd just be a recurrence of history
what the OP song is about? say goodbye to the world.
Say goodbye to the UGLY world, read the whole sentence man.
what's the signature art of the show? crimson butterfly.
What's wrong with that?
what does the main girl character looks like? totally non-innocent evil hotty.
Totally innocent, her eyes changed back to the former innocent green after Takeru kissed her.
Yay saber... *claps* FUZZY WUZZY SHOW!!
ANy ways wut were most of the episode were about???? Dont let me point out now. :D
Ep2 fuzzy wuzzy
ep3 fuzzy wuzzy
hey damn all the episode were fuzzy wuzzy exept the last 3 episodes and the first ep. Thats all.
Yes MUST SHOW OVA OR MOVIE OR BETTER SEASON 2!!! :D :D xD
.Rurouni.
2004-06-19, 14:20
to bad they ended this serie to quick just like all other series Gainax does they always end them quite fast :( just hope for season 2 cuz the last episode kinda leaves a hole...
kazuki1046R
2004-06-19, 17:47
if you look at konomini.com they have announced a movie I think. But Konomini can't end like this :(
Hi every one!! I'm new. My english sucks...hope you guys don't mind....
According to the site, the movie is just a non-stop eps.1 to eps.6 marathon with some talkshow. By each visit you will get a "not for sale" card as a souvenir. Don't expect there will be some new scenes etc, they just put it on a bigscreen. You can visit the movie from 27 june~4 july. (Only in Akihabara)
That's done for eps.1~6, but how about eps. 7~12? Maybe a remake just like EVA? Personal i think there's possibility for a 2e season/movie. Remember there's a original sound track 1, but since the OST 1 already includes almost all of the songs and BGMs from the tv-serie, i think it is possible that OST 2 will includes stuff from 2e season/movie or rename: The movie OST.
This is just my opinion....maybe i'm wrong....
dreamless
2004-06-19, 19:31
The movie links to some trailers and such stuff...
Yes MUST SHOW OVA OR MOVIE OR BETTER SEASON 2!!!
well I can agree with you about this, they need to make a OVA or Movie or Season 2 to get rid of all the fuzzy wuzzy stuff and kill off everyone! And knowing Gainax, I'd say if they really decide to make a OVA or Movie or Season 2 of Konomini, it will be very likely that they'll kill off everyone and get rid of the fuzzy wuzzy stuff. See second half of Eva, see End of Eva, see second half of FLCL, see Mahoromatic S2 :D
but then I highly doubt they'll continue Konomini, so I'll just wait to see their Re: Cutie Honey and Gunbuster 2. :cool:
season 2 would be nice. Very nice. Not dreamless way o_O Dreamless why are you still posting in this topic? It had no destruction of the world. So why are you happy that the ending ended with hikairi gone? I thought you might of said NOOOO damn were still alive<-- some shit ilke that.
ANy ways i would like fuzzy wuzzy season 2 :D
dreamless
2004-06-20, 02:53
season 2 would be nice. Very nice. Not dreamless way o_O Dreamless why are you still posting in this topic? It had no destruction of the world. So why are you happy that the ending ended with hikairi gone? I thought you might of said NOOOO damn were still alive<-- some shit ilke that.
ANy ways i would like fuzzy wuzzy season 2 :D
I'm happy because it's better than what I have originally expected, but it's only decent. If they wipe out the whole human population, that'd be a great ending :cool:
why are you expecting a fuzzy wuzzy 2nd season anyway? Gainax's style is alway first some fuzzy wuzzy stuff then suddenly they kill off everyone to shock you to no end :D
If you want some fuzzy wuzzy stuff all the way, look for CLAMP... wait, CLAMP is also quite famous that they make fuzzy wuzzy stuff until the last moment where they suddenly kill off everyone ;)
Then there must be a second batch! like Fate/Stay Night 2 or whatever.
Err... there are already the second batch, and third batch, and etc. etc. as Fate/stay night is the the best top selling h-game of recent years. a Fate/stay night 2 will not be called the second batch, but the second game... but I think Type Moon will just make some other new game in the Tsukihime universe. maybe Shirow vs. Shiki? :D
Deamless: wtf!? second and third batch, WHERE!?
As to the wipe-out-every-living-thing-Gainax-style, i dont give a damn, not one bit. What realy matters is Hikari and Takeru get to be together in the end. It's an action romance anime goddamnit! what kind of freaky ending is that! Separating the couple who loves each other, that's just ridiculous!
Fine, Gainax can vaporize every bloody human soul, but Konomini CANNOT end like this. Which reminds me of the End Of Evangelion version's ending, i actually preferred it to that of the TV series', if u call that an ending that is.
Sorry about the swearing. I get really pissed when an anime i like very much suck at the end.
dreamless
2004-06-20, 03:42
well, a batch is different from a new game. say, for example, at first they make 1,000 copies of the game which are the "First Time Limited Edition" packaged with some extra gifts and that's the first batch, and then they make 10,000 copies of the "standard edition" packaged without any extra that's the second batch, and when they prove to be very popular and sell very fast, they make another 30,000 copies and that's the third batch etc. etc. That's what I mean by "batches" of a game, without much if any difference in the game itself. I think usually when a "First Time Limited Edition" is released there's no difference in the game itself but just some extra stuff in the package like a doll or calendar or something.
Hmm... and I don't remember that a romance story needs to have the main characters together at the end. Actually if you play a lot of the Japanese romance games and watch a lot of the romance anime they do a lot of this kind of "physically separated but spiritually together" endings. Vision of Escaflowne and Hoshi no Koe come to mind. Oh of course there's the End of Eva and FLCL which are also from Gainax. And Gunbuster! If they make Gunbuster 2 some fuzzy wuzzy stuff I promise I'll go into a random killing spree. :D
Oh i see, thx.
Back to the topic:
"physically separated but spiritually together"? Come on, u gotta be kidding me. IMO, "physically separated but spiritually together"=bullshit! I do not deny the fact that a lot of anime end that way, but those people who made such ending has got to be either A. Have no sense of reality or B. Bakas.
Doh, arguing here all day long wont solve the problem. Somebody send an email to Gainax and tell them to make an OVA or a movie or a 2nd season or whatever as long as it doesnt end the current way!
dreamless
2004-06-20, 04:24
I'll choose A, indeed I think those people who made EoE and FLCL obviously has no sense of reality... but when does reality come into play when we are talking about Konomini? There's no sense of reality about some naked perfect girl dropping from the sky :D
I doubt some emails will solve the problem... I think the best would be for them to make a Konomini game, where you can get all sorts of endings, from the extermination of humanity to Takeru getting all girls including Amika and Sakurako, and maybe Ryou too, that'll solve all kinds of problems ;)
Must need OVA and happy ending. Now shut up end of discussion! Fuzzy WUzzyy!
dreamless
2004-06-20, 10:00
Must need OVA and happy ending. Now shut up end of discussion! Fuzzy WUzzyy!
yeah, we need a true happy ending where everyone is killed off and get rid of all fuzzy wuzzy stuff with a 3rd Impact. hahaha :D
AkihaTohno
2004-06-20, 11:56
Why couldn't Sakuranbo just DIE? Waaaahhhh....
I hate you dreamless, think happy, look at fuzzy. Go look at bunnies or something.
your freakin filthy.
Akiha r u in the right thread???
Yamano667
2004-06-20, 15:14
Gainax is famous for leaving bad endings or screwed plots :P get use to it
heavenly
2004-06-20, 20:22
I haven't seen it yet - please tell me that Mari won't get Takeru! I'm already resigned to an unsatisfactory ending, but that would be a real let-down.
Why couldn't Sakuranbo just DIE? Waaaahhhh....
Hey dude, the title is Konomini, not Da Capo. Well, yes, Sakura should just goto hell and never come back again.
heavenly, that's right, Mari should never touch Takeru. I swear i'll bomb Gainax if they let her.
P.S. Anyone against Nemu is evil!
Declair war on Gainax!!! Till they get our fuzzy wuzzy ending! MUAHHAHA
In case you didn't bother at all with doing some research, I found out that episode 13 is airing this week.
This is all thanks for the following link info:
http://www.animedaisuki.net/
dreamless
2004-06-21, 11:29
In case you didn't bother at all with doing some research, I found out that episode 13 is airing this week.
This is all thanks for the following link info:
http://www.animedaisuki.net/
which could be some error in animedaisuki site, last time I remember they showed that Gilgamesh has 28 episodes or so even after the series is finished, before changing back to 26 episodes after some time.
I think that site has an auto counter which increases automatically each week unless the webmaster change the status manually.
Why couldn't Sakuranbo just DIE? Waaaahhhh....
Sakurako
Sakurako!
SAKURAKO!
And what the hell's wrong with her that you call for her death at least 4 times?
She and Amika play the same rolls as Miyuki and Rin [and Chizu] in Mahoromatic.
They are there for occasional comic relief, minor exposition and minor plot line support [primarily the romantic plot lines].
She's cute, but underneath that cute is a tight, hot body [see opening episode opening scene, camping/onsen episode, beach episode]. And she looks great in a kimono [see festival episode].
Her character seems to be be nice and supportive of her friends. Her only major crime might be the repition of the phrase "Ryou-sama!".
Otherwise, what crime has this character committed that you feel you must repetitively post that she must die?
dreamless
2004-06-21, 12:32
Sakurako
Sakurako!
SAKURAKO!
And what the hell's wrong with her that you call for her death at least 4 times?
Otherwise, what crime has this character committed that you feel you must repetitively post that she must die?
I guess he just want to see some emotional lesbian love death scene or something :D
Anyway for episode 12, anyone think that naked Takeru and Hikari scene and later the "crossing hands" scene very suggestive? I think they are paying homage to the Rei X Shinji scene in End of Evangelion... so maybe Takeru and Hikari has... X'ed...
Umm guys, just think how bad most plots in American movies are and compare it to Konomini... No offense but almost with any ending Konomini would win over most of those multimillion budget mo :twitch: vies that Hollywood produces nowdays...
i want my fuzzy wuzzy ending!!!give it to me now,*goes tearing off his Evangelion posters*
Sakurako
Sakurako!
SAKURAKO!
And what the hell's wrong with her that you call for her death at least 4 times?
She and Amika play the same rolls as Miyuki and Rin [and Chizu] in Mahoromatic.
They are there for occasional comic relief, minor exposition and minor plot line support [primarily the romantic plot lines].
She's cute, but underneath that cute is a tight, hot body [see opening episode opening scene, camping/onsen episode, beach episode]. And she looks great in a kimono [see festival episode].
Her character seems to be be nice and supportive of her friends. Her only major crime might be the repition of the phrase "Ryou-sama!".
Otherwise, what crime has this character committed that you feel you must repetitively post that she must die?
...Wow, ur losing me...
In case you didn't bother at all with doing some research, I found out that episode 13 is airing this week.
This is all thanks for the following link info:
http://www.animedaisuki.net/
Most probably fake...but anyway, we'll find out about that soon.
Oh dreamless, pls define 'X'?
kazuki1046R
2004-06-22, 03:12
After watching eps.12.....
I'm quite happy with the ending. Now i realise there's little hope left for a 2e season, but i hope Gainax will make a movie-edition ending just like EVA......
BTW by the end you can see a butterfly like the one on the titel.....don't tell me that's Hikari and Akari, besides does such butterfly(the left wing is not identical to the right wing) exists......???
dreamless
2004-06-22, 03:43
I personally don't think butterflies with asymertrical wings exist, that would make flying very difficult if not impossible... but then I'm not good in biology...
that butterfly in the end? you mean at the very end with a butterfly on a spider web?
kazuki1046R
2004-06-22, 05:19
I personally don't think butterflies with asymertrical wings exist, that would make flying very difficult if not impossible... but then I'm not good in biology..
that butterfly in the end? you mean at the very end with a butterfly on a spider web?
About the wings: i thougt so too......:D
Yes ,but it is not on a spyderweb, it is on a leaf. Time 23min30sec. Or did i miss something?
...Wow, ur losing me...
How nice for you. :twitch:
dreamless
2004-06-22, 06:00
About the wings: i thougt so too......:D
Yes ,but it is not on a spyderweb, it is on a leaf. Time 23min30sec. Or did i miss something?
oh yeah, my mistake, it's green leaves, not spider web :p
.Rurouni.
2004-06-22, 18:08
Congratulations Gainax for making another bad ending
Yamano667
2004-06-22, 23:44
Gainax ..you never fail :D you always make the most horrible ends :D
two thumbs up ..they never fail :D
FlyByNite
2004-06-23, 00:34
I actually kinda liked the ending, it's funny but I swear from reading everyones thoughts from prior episodes I didn't think anyone WANTED a happy romance ending...
This ending reminds me kind of like Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's...The main character loses their physical body saving the world and goes off and their significant other is left waiting for them to return...
I got the impression that basically Akari and Hikari need to find a new home for the creatures that were supposed to replace humans, but didn't...
Still it was something of a bittersweet ending. That last scene with Akari and Ryou was sad, although it did show Akari never saw things in a romantic light, which makes sense since she did always treat him like a brother.
I didn't like the whole "lets go find our mom & Dad" thing though from him.
There also isn't really any resolution to the Mari/Takeru thing. He's there looking up at the sky and missing Hikari while Mari continues to hover around in her usual snippy way.
It would have been nice if someone could have died, I was rooting for the entire world and then you get Akari & Hikari survive, but I would have settled for just killing Mari...
Kamui4356
2004-06-23, 01:55
I don't see why everyone is bashing the ending. Sure it wasn't what most of us were expecting or what we wanted to see, but it was actually quite good. This was the kind of ending mahoro should have had. Personally I'd rather have some fluffy ending where Hikari and Takeru end up together. However, that wouldn't be as good as what the ending actually was. Would I like it better, yes. Would it be better, no.
DarcLion XVI
2004-06-23, 02:47
Just done watching the final episode and I say--
--**sudden memory loss**--
...I don't get it.
Screw this. Ima just praying for OVA just praying if there is ep13 out this friday Ima send thank you email which i created 200 email account just to piss off gainax.
Yahoo and hotmail :D 150 of them were mostly abandon from me friends <- :D
(like im goin to creat 150 email accounts) 50 i did.
FUZZY WUZZY
Hey, if there is OVA. Also if there is MIGHT a fuzzy wuzzy ending. What will all you gainax lovers going to think?? o_O MUAHHA FUZZY WUZZY DOMINATES
What a lame ending to a lame series. Like the whole story arc - which consisted of about 4 1/2 episodes - was finished halfway through the episode!
nephilim
2004-06-23, 07:04
Well... I liked the ending... if not for the itching feeling on whether Hikari did came back... If there's a scene in the final that showed part of Hikari returning to Earth I'll be happy... (But even happier if she appeared out of my monitor and sleep with me). Anyway the ending reminded me of Final Fantasy X.
Overall my opinion is that the truth was revealed too quickly. I think the anime might have been better if there were fewer fanservice, and the story is developed more slowly. Episodes 9 onwards are great, made me excited for the next episode each time I've finished watching one.
Probably you guys felt that the ending was bad because you wanted the ending to happen in another way.
Hikari and Akari are cute :D I hope they keep them coming, might not be in the form of another anime series, but just keep them coming :D
I wonder what the butterfly with abnormal wings represent... Hikari and Akari as a single being in the form of a butterfly ('Cause they lost their human bodies)?
Wednesday
2004-06-23, 07:26
Kono Minikukumo Utsukushii Sekai 12 by AonE-Onigiri (http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents.php) is up. Please download it and seed :). Thanx.
Mr.Minou
2004-06-23, 11:30
well after reading all this thread...I still like this "bittersweet" ending :p
....after reading most of this thread...my reaction is this -> :twitch: ....i don't get it, why are people so whiney about the ending (..i have to admit that i'm whiney most of the time...dang it i'm a hypocrite..><)...anyways, about the ending, i thought that it..was pretty good. I mean, just by looking at the storyline of the anime and what happened throughout the series....some of you poeple still expected a sappy and happy ending?? i dunno, usually, i would love sappy happy endings, you know, with the main characters getting together and all....but i don't really think the idea of that kind of ending suits this series? it's really rare to have non-happy endings...so i guess it's a good thing. also about mari being whiney and still going after takeru...i don't think that's true? i read in this other thread that it's a tradition for girls to cut their hair when they break up with their boyfreinds (in this case, got rejected)....and although i don't like mari that much, i do believe that it's not fair to shoot so much hatred towards her as if she had done something wrong (which she didn't)...blah....hhahahah :heh: i can't believe that i'm defending for the characters in the series....since they aren't real.....or ARE they.... :hmm:......
o....i have a quesiton for dreamless : You know the pictures you have for your signature? what series it it from? ....it looks interesting ^^..
I felt that this was a sappy/happy ending. Umm...no sir, I didn't like it. Oh well. so what was up w/ the eva like synopsis? Well...looks like Mari gets to have Takeru...Jennifer gets some of her questions answered, and there are 2 articles of clothing floating in space...time for the next obsession! I wonder what that will be????
Agreed with Spiggy right after the first 4 episode I honestly thought Gainax would of done a sappy/happy ending. Yet again. Damn you Gainax
The confrontation against the extinction process turned out anticlimatic, I was hoping for a more apocalyptic atmosphere.
The crimson butterflies I believe symbolized the souls of the unborn beings who were to take for Earth after the humans, however, they were neither given bodies nor names.
It was up to Akari-Hikari (The Light) to herd them all into a new place, that Takeru could not go with them because he was expected by everybody else on Earth.
Takeru&Hikari and Ryou&Akari overcomed and conquered all of their fears, but most importantly they realized that they'll always being cared and accompanied by everybody else.
Two important lines that caught my attention:
"Hikari explained that in order to acquire something new, you must get rid of something old."
This philosophy is ideologically related to the Principle of Equivalent Trade discussed in FullMetal Alchemist
"Hikari requested a final pledge to Takeru that he keeps eyes for her, forever."
I can infere from that line, that Hikari wanted that Takeru keep thinking about her so that he won't lose hope
Overall, this was quite a C- anime because things did not wrapped up nicely during the climax, and the ending left me for a bit of more.
After I finished with episode 12, I stored it with the rest of the episodes, and then delete them altogether at the same time. I had no intention to burn all the series on CD, because could not achieved what I expected for.
Oh well, GAINAX will surely come with another hit. They are supposedly making on the works, the sequel to GUNBUSTER. Just wait to see.
purplesky
2004-06-24, 08:35
My god... the ending is really sad ..... :( leaving 2 girls flying at the space.. how lonely will it be ... and everyone keep going on their life.. like normal =\ what a bad ending.. although they try to make it look happier.. but i just really dun like the way it ends... i dun wan Hikari to leave Takeru... !!
Yeah it made me a bit sad seeing their clothes floating in outtaspace, looking like they are holding hands ;_;
CoME BACK HIKARI!!!
nephilim
2004-06-24, 12:07
Stop talking about it... you're making me cry >_<
Takeru&Hikari and Ryou&Akari overcomed and conquered all of their fears, but most importantly they realized that they'll always being cared and accompanied by everybody else.
Two important lines that caught my attention:
"Hikari explained that in order to acquire something new, you must get rid of something old."
This philosophy is ideologically related to the Principle of Equivalent Trade discussed in FullMetal Alchemist
"Hikari requested a final pledge to Takeru that he keeps eyes for her, forever."
I can infere from that line, that Hikari wanted that Takeru keep thinking about her so that he won't lose hope
The fact is Guido... The climax is CLEAR. The problem was and always was being "lonely." I am sure rest of us fuzzy wuzzy lovers know that Takeru was given a solution to his problem, Hikari. So the question to the damn bitches at Gainax. Why f*** up the whole main ideal for the damn story rising action??? If it was evil destroy anime i couldnt care less. It just itches me how they corrup their own story lines, and endings.
If you dont want to read all that up there
Why take the main characters happiness?
dreamless
2004-06-24, 23:20
The fact is Guido... The climax is CLEAR. The problem was and always was being "lonely." I am sure rest of us fuzzy wuzzy lovers know that Takeru was given a solution to his problem, Hikari. So the question to the damn bitches at Gainax. Why f*** up the whole main ideal for the damn story rising action??? If it was evil destroy anime i couldnt care less. It just itches me how they corrup their own story lines, and endings.
If you dont want to read all that up there
Why take the main characters happiness?
because Hikari is not a solution. The moral of the story is to face your inner darkness and not running away from reality, you need to solve your own problems, not that you can just depend on some beautiful girl falling out of the sky to be your angel to rid you of all your problems.
and Hikari was just as messed up as Takeru.
Wellp, it was good seeing Gainax keep the fanservice going to the end, you can't say they didn't stick by their guns. Plus all the underlying basic ideas the show tries to convey are pretty interesting. I'm sure someone with enough time could create a very deep synopsis on the meaning of the show and how it conveyed it.
The only thing that could have been done better would have been if the budding relationship between the two sidekick girls, whos names I never caught, as hinted at in the beach ep, had been developed to the ultimate conclusion we all know it will eventually come to.
Ambience Blue
2004-06-25, 03:53
**Phases out ending...**
I only watched the series to see the rambling antics of the side characters. Amusingly, I have absolutely nooo thoughts at all about the ending. Series ended. No more ecchi. No more Kimi Ninomiya *sobs at last thought... Moves on to Episode 12 of Madlax to needlessly criticize Bee Train for copying Noir too much*
heavenly
2004-06-25, 08:48
Funny, that's it, I guess. Like the world depended on whether Gainax solves the question of evolution right. It's the antics. If someone could make me a gif of Kimi slapping baka niki Ryou's face with her little fists. Or how they have to hold Mari when she sees Takeru and Hikari about to kiss (ep 7). That, and loneliness. Hikari and Akari are just emanations of the two boys hearts, anyway. They can learn from it and dream.
The only thing that could have been done better would have been if the budding relationship between the two sidekick girls, whos names I never caught, as hinted at in the beach ep, had been developed to the ultimate conclusion we all know it will eventually come to.
Then there's Takeru and Ryou. In the first ep Ryou asks Takeru: Then, what kind of girl do you like? to which Takeru replies: What is this, all of a sudden? Ryou says: Me? and Takeru says: Baka! (in Animekeep translation).
What do you make of this?
PsionicXero
2004-06-25, 18:02
so it takes over 10 esps to find out that Takeru loves hikari?? Is it me or in most animes, the "boy" gets a "girl" thats willing to "do it" and the boy does not.
Dam these anime boys with there girls...
LinChoiSin
2004-06-25, 21:32
well i find it very weird that lots of people complain about the end because for me the whole anime itself was very bad ,not just the ending. :heh: it's true that i had very high expectations concerning this show and once again Gainax ruined everything.I thought Mahoromatic was bad but compared to kono minikuku it's rather good.i'm so disapointed ,it was lame and nobody died,nobody's been betrayed ,the world is still here and life goes on as usual.the only thing that could save this show would be a 2nd season wiith a very dark mood and lots of dead or a pill which would erase this show from my memory.i liked the opening though but that's not enough for me! :)
Here again I see the cultural ignorance of the people of these beloved forums.
I am just suggesting a few people are full of it. If you don’t have an open mind why even bother watching anime?
nephilim
2004-06-26, 03:40
WAveOfFire: Aahhh one of the points I've always wanted to make. Good thing you pointed that out, though in a harsher way.
dreamless
2004-06-26, 07:02
hmm... I'm not quite sure what is the "cultural ignorance" about? Is it about Mari and Takeru being cousins or something?
hmm... I'm not quite sure what is the "cultural ignorance" about? Is it about Mari and Takeru being cousins or something?I think it was about that comment but wasn't that awhile back?? Oh well, I think that they will hook up, granted there isn't a season 2 where Hikari and Akari return. Reasoning: even though she got a hair-cut, she still acts the same way she used to towards Takeru, but she's less shy about it. He seems to notice her more now that he knows how she feels towards him so he's a tad bit nicer/kinder to her. That's what I got out of the ending.
And what's wrong with Kimi and Ryou looking for their parents? That wasn't too bad of an idea considering that they were almost killed. I think he had a retrospect and realized that maybe Kimi should meet their parents before something like that happens.
Yeah, we knew the whole series kind of stunk (got mushy) but we were hoping w/ all our might that it would get better. Ehh...you can see where that got us :) Those who liked the happy ending got their wish and that's that.
uh... there wasnt any happy ending.
They got a normal dull one.
heavenly
2004-06-26, 16:27
I think it was about that comment but wasn't that awhile back??
I took it to mean that people for whom this anime wasn't silly and drab enough shouldn't bother to watch it anyway and then annoy us with their dumb posts.
And what's wrong with Kimi and Ryou looking for their parents? That wasn't too bad of an idea considering that they were almost killed. I think he had a retrospect and realized that maybe Kimi should meet their parents before something like that happens.
Well the parents dumped them. I haven't noticed any basis on which Ryou could suppose that their parents, if located, would suddenly realize how despicably they behaved to their kids and make up for it. Barring a miracle, it would be quite depressive meeting, especially for Kimi. And Ryou may believe that miracles can happen, but is rational enough not to rely on them.
uh... there wasnt any happy ending.
They got a normal dull one.If you count the world not getting destroyed and the twinkle twinkle little star then it's a happy ending...otherwards...yeah, you're right...a dull one
Strike-Zero
2004-06-26, 17:35
So what was the point of showing hikari and takeru grown up and having a baby?
So what was the point of showing hikari and takeru grown up and having a baby?I think that was what she wanted to happen since she wanted to go to the house. He also seemed suprised to see that he was hopping on his bike. Of course there's the fact that she was blushing when he figured out who he was with.
heavenly - yeah it downed those of us who wanted to see some mayhem, but it feels weird to just drop a series you like for some of the other qualities it has. And yes, the parents apparently don't care, but that doesn't mean that Kimi doesn't want to see them. She may have some choice words for them but it will bring some closure and she can move on taking care of her brother.
heavenly
2004-06-26, 21:24
I think that was what she wanted to happen since she wanted to go to the house. He also seemed suprised to see that he was hopping on his bike. Of course there's the fact that she was blushing when he figured out who he was with.There is a scene in the last episode of the Eva series when Shinji imagines a normal life. His mother is alive, they live together as a family with old Ikari and Asuka. Misato is their teacher at school and Rei arrives as a new student. Various mundane troubles and antics go on. That's normal life Shinji realizes he would love to have, instead of being burdened with his Eva-related destiny and all. Konomini is about this normal life, and shows that it may seem to be a given, as Takeru says, but they are in fact both moved by seeing themselves as a family. In a way, what could be more normal and boring and anticlimactic than a family, and yet, Hikari points out that it's not a given. I took them a lot to even know that they dream about it. She needed to belong somewhere, and Takeru needed courage to love someone. Ok, I'm finished already.
heavenly - yeah it downed those of us who wanted to see some mayhem, but it feels weird to just drop a series you like for some of the other qualities it has.That original poster wrote that the show was all bad, not just the ending. You dont need to watch all 12 episodes for that, unless you are a masochist. And yes, the parents apparently don't care, but that doesn't mean that Kimi doesn't want to see them. She may have some choice words for them but it will bring some closure and she can move on taking care of her brother.
Well I'm still not persuaded, but I watched some episodes again and while the flaws are still there, the good stuff is so good that I will not allow any badmouthing of this anime.
dreamless
2004-06-26, 21:52
Well the parents dumped them. I haven't noticed any basis on which Ryou could suppose that their parents, if located, would suddenly realize how despicably they behaved to their kids and make up for it. Barring a miracle, it would be quite depressive meeting, especially for Kimi. And Ryou may believe that miracles can happen, but is rational enough not to rely on them.
They are looking for their parents not because they want to reunite into a hapy family, but because Kimi wanted to see their parents. I don't think the meeting would be that depressing, now that Ryou clearly told Kimi that they are being dumped by theur parents, so Kimi should understand what to expect. Maybe she just want to see how her parents look like, to know what kind of people her parents really are, maybe she won't even really go up to talk to their parents when she found them.
I think what Ryou finally realized is that it's not his responsibility to decide for Kimi whether she should meet her parents or not, Kimi has the right to know the truth and decide for herself. That's the theme of the series IMO, everyone should face their own problems and decide for themselves. In Takeru's case, he tried to depend on others, in Ryou's case, he tried to decide for others and make others depend on him. in the end both of them realized it's not the right thing to do.
LinChoiSin
2004-06-27, 00:33
[QUOTE= That original poster wrote that the show was all bad, not just the ending. You dont need to watch all 12 episodes for that, unless you are a masochist.
Well I'm still not persuaded, but I watched some episodes again and while the flaws are still there, the good stuff is so good that I will not allow any badmouthing of this anime.[/QUOTE]
it goes without saying that you have to see an entire show to judge it ,if you don't know that it's sad besides in this show you really had to wait the end to know what kind of show it is because it could have been an "end of the world " type of show.I've been disapointed by this show mostly because i thought it would be great but what troubles me the most is that there were almost nothing new and because it was really unoriginal that's why i want to see a second season which i kope will be more original. :)
PsionicXero
2004-06-27, 03:46
Well, i felt the anime was ok, but the ending could of done better. Btw, how do i get into the Hikari fan club?
heavenly
2004-06-27, 06:30
it goes without saying that you have to see an entire show to judge it ,if you don't know that it's sad besides in this show you really had to wait the end to know what kind of show it is because it could have been an "end of the world " type of show.I've been disapointed by this show mostly because i thought it would be great but what troubles me the most is that there were almost nothing new and because it was really unoriginal that's why i want to see a second season which i kope will be more original. :)
C'mon, ending is important, but it's not the only thing. Karekano, one of the best romance animes out there, doesn't have anyending - they cought up with the ongoing anime on which it wasbased, and didn't have either the option or the guts to do their own ending. And yet, what a gem. You can certainly tell if a show is any good regardless the ending, or if it's cheap, dishonest, derivative, crappy or just not your cup of tea. I have a data transfer limit, so I have to make these calls. I saw Konomini couldn't be all bad by ep 3 at the latest, whatever the storyline. I cut off Song of Oblivion after the first ep, and Yumeria after three eps, and that was two too many.
PsionicXero
2004-06-27, 10:23
Romance? well, if i wanted to see romance, i would of looked at Da capo again. which was a way better romance. too bad no fan service, but a romance indeed.
Leo_Otaku
2004-06-27, 15:57
I didn't find the ending that terrible. I thought it was ok. If they have a movie or a second series I wonder what it would be like. I really loved Hikari and Akari. I don't really know if I liked the ending or didn't. I thought it was alright I guess.
This seemed like my story I'm writing that I began creating over 3-4 years ago. I won't say much more about it because the story isn't finished.
BTW I REALLY hated Mari, I'm glad he didn't end up with her ;p I wanted her to die she is SO ANNOYING!
Mari should die! Yet that aint gonna happen... so wut'cha goin to do? Email gainax make a 2 min lil show showing mari gettin killed? :twitch:
Ending sucks because no hikari and takeru, ryou and akari at end. :mad: :nono: thats a no no
.....riiiiiiite.....i still don't really get your logic Paiser, just cuz the ending didn't turn out to be the way YOU wanted it or that the ending was not as......lets just say...'more exciting' than you expected (cuz apparently, it may not be sappy -> but it's still a happy ending)...doesn't mean that the ending sucked. :twitch:...as what some users had said...the whole anime is based on the themes: not deciding for others, not depending on others, and solve ur own problems....really....just by having two characters paired up together isn't gonna make the whole series 100x better...blah......i know i really shouldn't be saying this since this is a place for poeple to let out their opinions...but geez...it's getting me ticked off when people complain without any common sense in their heads...no offence...(>< please don't kill me)....anyways...sorry for the outburst thingy :heh: ..
PsionicXero
2004-06-28, 00:04
Well, the ending was unexpected. i would of never of guessed that Hikari leaves, when i realized that she was going to leave, i just felt bad for takeru...
.....riiiiiiite.....i still don't really get your logic Paiser, just cuz the ending didn't turn out to be the way YOU wanted it or that the ending was not as......lets just say...'more exciting' than you expected (cuz apparently, it may not be sappy -> but it's still a happy ending)...doesn't mean that the ending sucked. :twitch:...as what some users had said...the whole anime is based on the themes: not deciding for others, not depending on others, and solve ur own problems....really....just by having two characters paired up together isn't gonna make the whole series 100x better...blah......i know i really shouldn't be saying this since this is a place for poeple to let out their opinions...but geez...it's getting me ticked off when people complain without any common sense in their heads...no offence...(>< please don't kill me)....anyways...sorry for the outburst thingy :heh: ..
Sure... Uh... Sure. You critize me because i complain about the ending? If you think Fuzzy Wuzzy sucks uh.. im sure into die die now shit like that. Because ending sucks. You know it. You know you want hikari to stay with takeru!! your tellin me ending wasnt great? I thought ending sucked but it was okay. I just didnt like it becuase HIkari went bye bye. THink twice if u think i hated the ending that much. Its far better then gainax's other production like evangelion. Evangelion sucked. I just hope there was more to it then Yes im goin to choke asuka too death. Still konomini suks one way than the other. Could of been better. I close my case.
PsionicXero
2004-06-28, 03:34
lol man, i dont hate the ending, i just said it was unexpected. look man, if i have 56k and i had to spend 2 days downloading it, u better believe i liked it! i just wished somethings can be changed, thats all...
Hmm...i thought that the ending will be nice like Hikari finally become human (Somehow) and live with Takeru while having his child like wat they're able to see during the very last but too bad hikari and AKari have to leave.
Maybe is true that they just can't get back together...well both of them are from different world rite? 1 Alien?? anothe 1 is a human....i think the ending is for the best and that there's no need for any season 2 or the movie but still i hope there's a 2nd season...but i really wonder how would it turn out since is already ended and everything is made clear.
(Nah~ the reason i hope for a season 2, is just becoz of Hikari & Akari cuteness i think :heh: )
Sure... Uh... Sure. You critize me because i complain about the ending? If you think Fuzzy Wuzzy sucks uh.. im sure into die die now shit like that. Because ending sucks. You know it. You know you want hikari to stay with takeru!! your tellin me ending wasnt great? I thought ending sucked but it was okay. I just didnt like it becuase HIkari went bye bye. THink twice if u think i hated the ending that much. Its far better then gainax's other production like evangelion. Evangelion sucked. I just hope there was more to it then Yes im goin to choke asuka too death. Still konomini suks one way than the other. Could of been better. I close my case.
Well i must agree that i do think that the ending could have been better, geez... i really hope Hikari and Takeru can get together but nah~ Gainax just don't want to pair them together....what can we do? (Just create a fan fiction lolz, i mean write your own ending like some others does...)
I think Evangelion really sucks and from what i've seen from Gainax production...i think Konomini still stands out to be the best...Mahoromatic not bad either but EVA just...well.....lets just say it turn me down BIG TIME....
Anyhow...i think the ending is for the best... why don't you write your own ending and make it into a fan fiction? I would like to do so but too bad...i'm too busy with t\my Assignment, mayb i'll do it during the up coming holiday....(Hope so)
Honestly i don't think the ending is THAT sucks... it just got to came out that way...
although i myself doesn't really like it.
Well, I wish there wasnt season 2 either. Yet Gainax has left a empty plot for us viewers hm... what the hell happened to Hikari? Will she come back? Will Takeru look up on the sky forever and die of old age? Will he tap Mari's ass? That just disturbs me when they make fuzzy wuzzy anime. Still Ova seriously would be nice. Not stupid ova's like reviewing the series.
dreamless
2004-06-28, 11:19
Hmm...i thought that the ending will be nice like Hikari finally become human (Somehow) and live with Takeru while having his child like wat they're able to see during the very last but too bad hikari and AKari have to leave.
Maybe is true that they just can't get back together...well both of them are from different world rite? 1 Alien?? anothe 1 is a human....i think the ending is for the best and that there's no need for any season 2 or the movie but still i hope there's a 2nd season...but i really wonder how would it turn out since is already ended and everything is made clear.
(Nah~ the reason i hope for a season 2, is just becoz of Hikari & Akari cuteness i think :heh: )
no don't make Hikari change into human, because, honestly those human-centric endings SUCK!
If you want to pair Hikari and Takeru up, fine! but don't make Hikari into a human, make Takeru into a God. Okay, God and Goddess, living for all eternity happily ever after, this is good happy ending. Hikari into human? that sucks! she will live for all eternity, as Akari will too.
I just felt uncomfortable that everything that Takeru went through passed in a blink of an eye, and yet he returns to the dully and mundane of his boring life.
Well, I wish there wasnt season 2 either. Yet Gainax has left a empty plot for us viewers hm... what the hell happened to Hikari? Will she come back? Will Takeru look up on the sky forever and die of old age? Will he tap Mari's ass? That just disturbs me when they make fuzzy wuzzy anime. Still Ova seriously would be nice. Not stupid ova's like reviewing the series.LOL...I think he'd tap it. I want to know what others think about that big freakin' star that's in geo-synchronous orbit with Japan. The government has got to be thinking that something is targeting them or something like that! Fuzzy wuzzy...they are...hmm...indifferent for me. I'm watching Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and I can barely handle an ep a day w/o wanting to skip through it. And no...they should not turn Takeru into a god, he can barely handle being human. Maybe turn him into a pair of panties or something.
I think that OVAs would be good minus the recap of course. They can come back when everyone is older, and she finds out that Takeru had a ton of kids w/ Mari, then My Goddess pops up and she sets loose the butterflies fear them!!!, and the whole world gets reset, and they leave. The End. :)
nephilim
2004-06-28, 20:58
Anyhow...i think the ending is for the best... why don't you write your own ending and make it into a fan fiction? I would like to do so but too bad...i'm too busy with t\my Assignment, mayb i'll do it during the up coming holiday....(Hope so)
Darn! You hit me at the spot there! A fan fiction! I could have written one but I'll be blardy inferior for my lousy command of English..
LOL...I think he'd tap it. I want to know what others think about that big freakin' star that's in geo-synchronous orbit with Japan. The government has got to be thinking that something is targeting them or something like that! Fuzzy wuzzy...they are...hmm...indifferent for me. I'm watching Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and I can barely handle an ep a day w/o wanting to skip through it. And no...they should not turn Takeru into a god, he can barely handle being human. Maybe turn him into a pair of panties or something.
I think that OVAs would be good minus the recap of course. They can come back when everyone is older, and she finds out that Takeru had a ton of kids w/ Mari, then My Goddess pops up and she sets loose the butterflies fear them!!!, and the whole world gets reset, and they leave. The End. :)
sure buddy. Your evil. :nono: thats a no no.
Even though OVA would be really nice. What the heck you want Mari and Takeru seriously end up with each other? :twitch:
dreamless
2004-06-29, 05:52
LOL...I think he'd tap it. I want to know what others think about that big freakin' star that's in geo-synchronous orbit with Japan. The government has got to be thinking that something is targeting them or something like that! Fuzzy wuzzy...they are...hmm...indifferent for me. I'm watching Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and I can barely handle an ep a day w/o wanting to skip through it. And no...they should not turn Takeru into a god, he can barely handle being human. Maybe turn him into a pair of panties or something.
hey now that's a nice idea, Takeru turn into a pair of panties and Hikari can wear them for all eternity so they can be always together to the end of the universe, and beyond. that'd be great ending! ;)
sure buddy. Your evil. :nono: thats a no no.
Even though OVA would be really nice. What the heck you want Mari and Takeru seriously end up with each other? :twitch:It's not exactly what I want but it's the most likely outcome if Hikari & Akari stay away for a long time and no one else enters the picture...IMO.
dreamless - I'm glad someone likes my unique stoyline :)
uh... so does this mean you want to become hikari's under~thong?
PsionicXero
2004-06-30, 03:04
What if, just what if Hikari stays! You know, instead of leaving...
that'd be alot better that make a good ending. I wouldnt had complaints at all
heavenly
2004-07-04, 18:10
And her grandkids would tell her, grandma, tell us how grandpa took you down from a tree, and grandma, show us your butterflies collection...
that just came out of no where....
o_0
PsionicXero
2004-07-04, 22:32
well, i guess that would be funny, but i dont think they will go that far...
I don't know about other people - but I have to watch an entire series to concider it garbage. I try to be as fair as a can, unless its a series that I am not interested in the ending at all. I watched the first episode - did not like it but gave it a chance, and after finishing it had none of my opinion changed.
Ambience Blue
2004-07-05, 22:33
Spiggy: ROFL! Takeru into a thong!?! LOL! ED = Everlasting Derriere... Perfect! Even the acronym makes sense!
Heavenly: Lol...
Hikari: Yep, kids, that's where babies come from-- little red butterflies.
Grandkids: Grandma! Spontaneous generation was disproved centuries ago!!
Hikari: Then explain my pulling of a humanoid robot from concrete!! And how I came out of a cocoon!
Takeru: I swear it's true!
Grandkids: Mom! Dad! Our Grandparents are suffering Alzheimer's!!
I honestly didn't care how the series ended. I had my fill of bishoujo cuteness, that's all. In my ideal ending, Kimi Ninomiya would become queen of the world and would spread all of her 10-yr.-old kawaii-ness.
just hoping for ova.... <- complainin, but who isnt?
Prince of Chronics
2004-07-06, 22:21
I don't know about other people - but I have to watch an entire series to concider it garbage. I try to be as fair as a can, unless its a series that I am not interested in the ending at all. I watched the first episode - did not like it but gave it a chance, and after finishing it had none of my opinion changed.
yeah, I agree with you completely.. I just watched the last episode... I too thought it was weak initially... was hoping it would get better... but it doesn't... it was somewhat interesting in the last few episodes but then got all soft again in the last episode...
yeah, I agree with you completely.. I just watched the last episode... I too thought it was weak initially... was hoping it would get better... but it doesn't... it was somewhat interesting in the last few episodes but then got all soft again in the last episode...Thank you. It was anti-climatic wasn't it? she's got pissed b/c Mari had her whole life to get with Takeru but couldn't then another girl pops from nowhere and she's jealous. Hikari pretty much just slammed Takeru's hopes and dreams or lack of. They spend a good 15mins playing tag before kissing and making up. The end of the world was stopped by a single attack within 10secs. The explosion was cool. Then Hikari and Akari leave w/ their clothes in space.
Ambience Blue - nice acronym (sp) ED...I like!!!
Oh boy, finally get to post some thoughts on the end of KonoMini. I can't say I loved the ending... it felt like, I don't know, a compromise of sorts. I think the "Hikari becomes nice girl again" part was done too abruptly... I mean, it's done in a sloppy soapish kinda way (oh let the hero go after the girl! Oh wait, she runs away but reluctant to go very far! Oh the hero kisses the girl!). I wanted more than this from Gainax. Maybe they did plan a EVA-ish ending at first, but had to cut back the degree for some reason. But it was still TONS better than the infamous Mahoromatic Ending.
I think it's a very GOOD shonen Mahou Kanojou story, but the ending was kinda too ordinary to match the setup. They definately didn't defy the genre, for sure, but added a good entry to it rather. Okay the girls did leave Earth and it's not really the "good" good ending, but I was hoping in the line of, Hikari became back only after killing a good chunk of the cast... Oh well, I guess merchandising potential for the Hikari/Akari twin is too great to resist. Just think of all the great doujinshi KonoMini's gonna generate :). Plus this ending leaves the door wide open for a sequel anyway.
I think maybe this IS Gainax's big surprise... "Hey, since everyone's expecting a bloodbath, well, heck, let's give them a NICE and NORMAL ending instead! Ha!"
sure buddy...
Ending was a-okay. Coming from Gainax. Your right it does open to a big sequal to fill in. Yet we have to wait one more year or next 6 months if they will do produce anything. Just hope konominikukumoustukushiisekai is smash hit at japan. If doesnt say good bye to season 2 or ova.
PsionicXero
2004-07-16, 14:07
I hope theres Comedy and Ecchi, cuz that would be real great!
like Full Metal Panic!? Fumoffu?
It'll be funny if they did. Cuz they should make one episode like south park, and at the end of that episode Hikari will blow up Gainax! Muahha and the world mUAHAHAH South Park style baby. Thats how we do.
Plot:
Takeru- bff ff ffff ff~ i cant talk with this coat on
Hikari- Shut the fuk up and kiss me
Mari- What the fuk are you doing?
Rest of the crew- oOoOoOohhhhh They're making out
Mari- Bitch leave Takeru alone! He's mine! (takeru puts the coat back on)
Takeru- Bff fff ff fff ffffffff x.X~
Mari- Must get this thing off
Hikari- U son of a bitch. BooOOOOOOMMMMMM~ x.X
PsionicXero
2004-07-16, 21:09
Maybe Hikari will be nicer like:
Hikari- kiss me takeru
takeru- fufuufuufuuf
hikari- ok, kiss me later (she leaves the room)
takeru- (thinking to himself) thank god she left, she almost caught me jerking off to someone less perfect then her.
moral- if ur jecking off and hikari comes and asks for a kiss, giver her a freaking kiss and a little "something something"
Technovia_EX
2004-07-16, 21:48
Finally, AE and Akeep finished their version =). Now I can store it after all this time. Thanks AE/AK.
The only good stuff from Gainax is Princess Maker....
PsionicXero
2004-07-17, 02:27
OMG OMG, thats not true, have u ever heard of Evangelion???? its only one of the best amines ever! that and Mahoromatic, ecchi and comedy, what more does can u ask for???
Yamano667
2004-07-24, 17:35
In the real world a creature like (Death-Hikary) it wouldnt have turned into a human being hehe :) It was a great ending though..bit philosophical, I love the series good ecchi parts, nice legs, etc.. :D, and I hope Gainax will continue making great series as good as this one :)
HellBreath
2004-08-23, 11:50
well i read all those replays and i still dont get few things
1.will there be sequel\season 2?
2.whats about the movie?
3.and whats with eps 13? this site shows it got 13 eps http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1307,oawhlu,kono_minikuku_m.html
but i cant find it anywhere
PsionicXero
2004-08-28, 17:33
well i read all those replays and i still dont get few things
1.will there be sequel\season 2?
2.whats about the movie?
3.and whats with eps 13? this site shows it got 13 eps http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1307,oawhlu,kono_minikuku_m.html
but i cant find it anywhere
Oh yea! a konomini Movie!!! and season 2!! The only thing that can make this better is if they gave out the dolls!
Hoshino Hikari
2004-08-31, 17:30
I liked the ending but I didn't love it.
It didn't end how I expected or how I wanted. I thought atleast one person was going to be killed. and I really wanted Hikari and Takeru to be together. I don't really understand why the hell Hikari and Akari left earth. T_T
I cried, for sure.
I thought there would of been a more deadly fight, I thought Hikari would of been more crazy and killing. o.O But nope, not at all. x_x I thought the ending fight was kinda cheap. =x but not bad.. ^^;
Evil Hikari at the end sure was different from the scary evil Hikari that started off. o.O Her good self completly took over, and she was just lonely and hurt..
The very ending where Hikari and Akari are flying in space and that beautiful song plays.. waii that was great.
I also love how Takeru is being devoted to Hikari, waiting for her. His love is true. ^__^
I never really liked Mari, she's an annoying bitch if you ask me.. x_x
Konomini is my favourite series. I really hope theres a second season! <3
Hoshino Hikari
2004-08-31, 17:36
Oh yea! a konomini Movie!!! and season 2!! The only thing that can make this better is if they gave out the dolls!
ehh?!?! Theres going to be a movie AND a season 02?!?!?!?!? @___@!!!
Seriously?! T___T!
Hoshino Hikari
2004-08-31, 17:42
well i read all those replays and i still dont get few things
1.will there be sequel\season 2?
2.whats about the movie?
3.and whats with eps 13? this site shows it got 13 eps http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1307,oawhlu,kono_minikuku_m.html
but i cant find it anywhere
ah yeah i heard something about an episode13 too.. but i never did find it.. thats weird.. maybe they mest up?
Emm...
The ending seems Ok for me...
I seriously want 2nd Season or OVA of it...
GustaveElazul
2004-10-12, 09:18
I had the last few episodes still sitting on my computer (konomini is licensed now isnt it?) and ended up finishing it off.
I have to agree that the ending sucked.They should have ended it with it being months (maybe a year) later and show hikari and akari walking along the road heading toward Takeru's home. I was actually expecting them to be walking along that road during the ending music....sucks that they leave you hanging on the notion that they *might* be coming back. A series based on romance and alot of happiness shouldn't end in such a sour way; it's as if Gainax slacked off during the last 3-4 episodes. Things went too fast and ended wrong.
Oh well; I'll keep on wishing for a new season or movie to fix this. Though gainax probably gets their kicks out of torturing people like us :)
da_man741852963
2004-10-22, 23:42
so...what's the newest info on possible sequel to konomini?
PsionicXero
2004-11-10, 18:19
So far from what i hear, nothing is comming out. well, i guess people didnt like the ending, i have a friend like that. he keeps saying that there were only 3 action parts in the whole anime...he was right, not only insofar = (
7thMethuselah
2004-11-18, 06:06
So far from what i hear, nothing is comming out. well, i guess people didnt like the ending, i have a friend like that. he keeps saying that there were only 3 action parts in the whole anime...he was right, not only insofar = (
It's not the lack of action that I disliked, but the fact that the anime was constantly searching for itself. There never really was a story growing, and the bit of character development that was present was being dealt with badly.
I watched episode upon episode, trying to figure out what Konomini was about, and then suddenly in ep 8 or 9 we find out the purpose of Hikari and Akari. FIne I thought, here comes the story .... wrong, more of the same, and a hasty confusing end.
I believe they should've focuses more on the 2 main relationships, dig deeper, tell more about it than they did. The whole my mom left me part, which proved to be crucial in the end almost was completely new information ...
And the robot Aoinios should not have been in the anime, what was his role anyway? He never did anything and his function was to be called unclear at best. His more comedic parts could easilly be taken over by someone else.
And then there is the scientist, then she's a scientist, then she's living in their house??? What's up with that?
About the monsters : it's not like there was a need to have one in each and every episode, but if you are gonna introduce a monster in ep 1, be sure to develop it's part as well, they- 2nd one didn't pop up untill ep 6 or 7 and a 3rd one never came (not counting the dinosaur at the end). The few action scenes felt very misplaced
My opinion, Konomini had alot of potential and it was looking good up to episode three, and then they forgot about the story completely and quickly picked it up again at the end. They wanted to make a mix of action romance but screwed it up professionally. The action was better left out, more focus on the two main relationships, and give the side characters some background too, a background which could even be linked to the main storyline.
I think I love Kono Minikuku Utsukushii Sekai because the story is very romantic and good, not the ecchi because I don't like ecchi. :nono:
nephilim
2004-12-08, 22:53
I wouldn't say the anime is romantic though. It's more fan-service than romantic scenes... plus a weird plot.
evil-samurai
2004-12-09, 00:11
I wouldn't say the anime is romantic though. It's more fan-service than romantic scenes... plus a weird plot.
i kinda agree with you there very werid but cool at the same time, i do wish there was a little less nudity , e.g ep.2 shower scene + ep. 6 hot spring - they didnt need to show that much
7thMethuselah
2004-12-21, 09:45
I wouldn't say the anime is romantic though. It's more fan-service than romantic scenes... plus a weird plot.
Agreed, I think the intention was to make a decent romantic plot, after all that seems to be the main storyline, but it never succeeded in drawing my attention. And episode one was also something that set me on the wrong foot right from the start. I took me 3-4 episodes to realise the monsters thingies weren't what it was about. The problem was that by that time nothing really new was happening, and that which took place was trivial or didn't make sense. Finally at the end they put in a story.
And the fanservice... well it was kinda out of place. Fanservice : either do it or don't do it at all, don't be hanging somewhere in between. I'll remember this anime as the one that tried to mix different genre's/idea's into 1 but failed at it. Ah well, it did have a couple of good characters :D
da_man741852963
2004-12-22, 14:04
well...to me, the series DID have a plot. It may not be heading toward the direction many viewers nowaday want to see, but one nonetheless. I think the plot is what the title of the series imply: the beautiful/ugly world. As the opening song points out, the world is undergoing constant metamorphosis, and obviously the transformation is not heading towards the right direction, hence the two alien appear and make their judgment. Without belaboring the point, the story is trying to take on the more philosophical approach to life, as numerous other Gainax series try to do, but it tries to blend in mahoromatic elements. The results: not many people liked it, hence the sucky, kinda dragging out ending. Personally, I am all about happy endings, but I guess the majority wants to put the so-called degree of complication in stories. Anyhow, without painting myself with more paint and attaching myself with "flame attracting" magnets, I am going to stop, and yes, I really think that a second series is in order, and they should try to focus on the romantic relationship between hikari and that other dude, like what others before me said. (the other relationship isn't romantic, as the seires points out, dude with hikari wishes for a girl friend whereas the other wants family; I mean, why want girl when you get all the girls you can handle.)
:hmm: looks to me like Evangelion, only abit more like romantic and non si-fi one.... the first monster looks almost like the one in evangelion :heh: or i may be wrong.... and the reason of too much ecchi maybe because of evangelion also contains ecchi scene e.g the intro, Bathing in the tub, and etc...
PsionicXero
2004-12-24, 01:10
:hmm: looks to me like Evangelion, only abit more like romantic and non si-fi one.... the first monster looks almost like the one in evangelion :heh: or i may be wrong.... and the reason of too much ecchi maybe because of evangelion also contains ecchi scene e.g the intro, Bathing in the tub, and etc...
wait wait...what? I really do not think konomini was like eva, no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Plus there is no such thing as too much ecchi, more like too much ecchi for u to handle :)
wait wait...what? I really do not think konomini was like eva, no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Plus there is no such thing as too much ecchi, more like too much ecchi for u to handle
Really T.T Then maybe i should watch more hentai movie and Play Hentai games more often T.T....Knowledge Is Power :heh:
Well Evangelion Is made by Gainax Right maybe they make the story using abit of Evangelion Storyline.... Nah Its impossible... that way the story will never be interesting.....And the Monster in Konomini looks cuter than the ones in Evangelion... :heh:
hoshino_crimsonwings
2006-05-09, 13:23
I saw someone mentioned Aoinios didnt have a major function in the anime; well actually he did ;p If he didn't reawaken the school wouldn't have collasped, thus the summer wouldn't have started "Sooner". Yes the creators could have "Skiped a few weeks", but the fans would go like "Wth happened in the few weeks then". And how would they change Hikari and Takeru's relationship? The creators somewhat tried to make the relationship quite raw, since little time has past by. Furthermore, it seems Kuon was part of the "Particle" which made up Aoinios, thus perhaps he couldn't "function" 100% efficient. That's just a speculation though. (You could see the "diamond like particle" in the end on Jennifer Portman's Neckclace, Kuon's particle apparently was broken off from Aoinios'.
holyman282
2006-12-29, 21:43
Yes i agree that a OVA or another season should be made.. This time maybe they should focus more on the relationships between the characters, rather than trying to hard to incorporate a wide variety of genres in, which ended up not developing any of the genres properly..
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