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Angilicwings
2003-11-26, 07:19
Did anyone see Hack Sign? It's just the greatest anime i ever saw...I didn't finish it yet but until now it's great..specially the sound tracks in it..it's very touching..And it's very famous too..so i think u guys know it
GATX207_Blitz
2003-11-26, 07:37
Like on the other thread you started...
I'm only saying this mainly because the mods might delete these threads because they don't belong here, but then they did let that poem one go by hmm well if it stays great, it may also be moved or locked... ok I'm done talking
Edit: ok don't respond to this post it the problem was quickly resolved
Lefteris_D
2003-11-26, 07:43
Thread moved to somewhere that it fits better
Angilicwings
2003-11-26, 09:26
hello everyone,
Am sorry but this is my first time here so am a little lost...okay not a little..alot..there are so many places and am kinda lost..and i don't know where to write the things i want ..
I just need time to get used to it..Sorry again..My apologies..And well i will need ur help to organize myself a little.. Thank you GATX207_Blitz
To tell you the truth, hack sign is not my cup of tea. Fell asleep when watching the anime... :heh:
Got the fifth DVD today. It finally started going in a very decent direction, then it finished. Then the final DVD is out in March. next year.
Snap
Go-lytely
2003-11-26, 13:10
Hack Sign was boooooorrrringggg. I couldnt even stay awake to finish it. Although lots of people like it, its just didn't strike a chord with me. I did like .Hack//Liminality and I loved .Hack//legend of the twilight bracelet.
Hack Sign had wayyyyyy to much talking in it I kinda drifted off when I watched it ~_~ but kind of a surprise since I did like the others...
Wandering_Youth
2003-11-26, 17:04
.hack//SIGN wasn't really my type of anime because it was very slowed paced and it got really dull in the middle of the anime. The only thing I like about .hack//SIGN was the character art and music. The music was great, imo.
FinFangFoom
2003-11-26, 22:45
I've been wondering about the dot hack series for a while now. I know the premise about being a massive online rpg, but what is the series mostly focused on? Is it more fantasy setting D&D style or is it more about the real outside world? I can't deside if it's worth checking out.
Uzumaki626
2003-11-26, 23:28
For almost the entire show its in teh game or "the world" i think... havent seen it in a while... The beginning + end is good.... but ...... the middle is hard to stay awake while watching it. It has also ALOT of talking, i mean ALOT
For almost the entire show its in teh game or "the world" i think... havent seen it in a while... The beginning + end is good.... but ...... the middle is hard to stay awake while watching it. It has also ALOT of talking, i mean ALOT
Agreed. That's the reason why I stopped watching it at episode 12. Couldn't take it anymore... :heh:
I thought it was rather good for a while. I liked the slow, subdued, somber pace, but it all comes out kinda mediocre in the end with an extremly disapointing explanation as to what is going on, It's an evil AI! Ooh! some very cliche anime pieties about emotional health, and what I thought was a very weak treatment of the obvious theme, The World vs. real life. Most people actually resemble their avatars in the brief glimpses we get of them, espiecially Mimaru. And Krim had a bad actor voicing him in the dub, which I had to watch because I saw it on Cartoon Network. But it was free. So there.
Speaking as someone who is a big fan of MMOGS, i must say i LOVED .hack//sign, slow and somber pacing, plus semi confusing story and all.
As far as .hack//sign goes, 95 percent of the story takes place in "The World", with very brief glimpses of what is going on in the Real World.
For background, the storys past (I think somewhere around the year 2006 or something) a computer virus destroys the entire global network structure. After they rebuild, there is one main Operating System (it has an Installed user base of something like 99.5% of all Electronics on the planet), and one Insanely Popular Online Game: "The World".
The World is a very sophisticated online game, played with a set of special goggles and what appears to be a PS2 controller. It also works off of pure speach recognition for that absolute increase in immersion.
The whole thing about the series that I really liked is it's takes on stuff like preception and reality. To many people, games are just a form of recreation, to others they are an escape, a way to get away from the world and your life, if only for a brief bit. To some however, the escapism offered by something like The World can be far too tempting to resist completely disapearing into (as has been shown even in current times with people and their literal addiction to games like Everquest).
The series is very hevy on character building and expositon. It is most definately NOT an action series, and is much more like Lain, in that it is there to make you think. How do you see yourself? How do others see you? How do you choose to interact with other people when forced to? What do you do when you just want to escape?
As a plus, there are lots and lots of references to things you see every day in most current MMOGS. Indiscriminate PKs, guild infighting, noobs learning the ropes, hackers, heavy handed company moderation, and more.
Of course, as someone said, the ending does leave you a bit off, wondering what was going on, but that is mainly because .hack//sign is only part of the story. To get the full picture of what has been going on, you really have to:
1: watch .hack//sign AND the extra special ep or two that goes with that series
2: watch .hack//liminality AND play the 4 part PS2 game that goes with it
3: watch .hack//legend of twilights bracelet (it goes by a couple of other titles too)
4: maybe read the manga too, if you can find it
Then you will finally get pretty much the entire story.
It's an evil AI! Ooh!
I really hate to say this, but if that is all you got out of the Series (though to be fair, I think you said you stopped watching after 12 or so) you missed the point ENTIRELY. Hell, you were SOO far off, you practically ended up right off the series :P.
There was no Inherent Evil involved at all.
No, it was someone else who stopped after 12, I actually started watching at about 12 and recently saw 1-11 (which was awkward) and it's true that I haven't played the games, but...hold on...
Magic Voice is the cause of it all, right? And they don't tell us about how it came to be or what it really wants because they want us to buy .hack games.
Besides the aformentioned pieties, yeah, that's all I got from it, although that pig-cow that turned into a beatnik or something and flew away was absolutely hilarious. If there's something else, maybe I did miss it. I thought the last two or three episodes were pretty dull, so if I wasn't paying attention, I blame the show itself.
Oh, and being "part of a larger story" mostly means they're cashing in. If this show can't stand at all by itself, it's weak. Well, I suppose the whole Tsukasa thing is its alone, but that was also weak and fairly cliche in the end, so it loses again. :P
I really hate to say this, but if that is all you got out of the Series (though to be fair, I think you said you stopped watching after 12 or so) you missed the point ENTIRELY. Hell, you were SOO far off, you practically ended up right off the series :P.
There was no Inherent Evil involved at all.
Ehehe... I was the one who stopped at episode 12... :p
Nice summary SurfD... .hack//Sign is not about action at all, audience who are looking for D2 style rpg action will be sorely disappointed with it. I have only just started watching the first few episodes, but I am in love with it just fine. :D
Well, that's because the first few episodes are actually really good...don't get me wrong, I don't think it's an action show and don't expect any, and I like that's it's not, but...it just ends so weakly, and that can sully the memory of the entire seires. Just look at Blue Gender!
blackXkatze
2003-11-27, 13:55
I was only able to watch the first 5 eps before it was licensed.. and I'd have to say that I absolutely loved it. =D I especially liked it because it was about online rpg gaming.. which I adore..
About it being boring.. I guess I can't say much because I've only seen the first 5 eps.. but it seemed pretty interesting to me, and had a decent amount of action. Anyway I guess I'll find out more when I get around to buying the dvds. ^_^
Major Spoiler coming
Ok, granted its been a while since I saw the series, but here is what I remember: The three main players in the background events were Howard Hughes, one of the main programmers of the game, sort of its father; his wife, sort of the mother of the game, and their virtual daughter Aura. Basicly, Hughes wife died shortly before the programming of the game finished, and Hughes, in an effort to hold on to her memory, programmed a bit of herself and himself into the game. A lot of the realistic and dynamic nature of The World comes from the fact that there are these two AI's modeled off of Hughes and his Wife runing The World in the background. They are the "soul" of The World so to speak.
Now, the problem comes from the fact that somehow, Aura, essentially their Daughter, ended up getting created by the two AI's. This has caused a rift in the harmonious function of the "soul" programs. The Wife AI, has twisted itself into some kind of viciously over protective mother syndrome, and does not want Aura to be "born" becasue then it will no longer be able to nurture and hold on to the 'daughter'. The mother is essentially afraid that if Aura is born, she will have no purpose or function, and is willing to sacrifice The World to prevent it. The father wants aura to be born, because its birth will have a signifigant effect on the game.
Im not sure which AI acted to trap Tsukasa permanently in the game, but I believe Tsukasa is in some way analagous of Aura herself, sort of her proxy in the fight betweeb the AIs. If Tsukasa can be compelled to stay in the happy little pocket world, the mother wins, if he can be convinced to venture out and interact with the rest of the world on his own violition, the father wins.
Now, I might be slightly off, but I am pretty sure that that covers most of what was going on.
Can you really gleam all of that from the series? There was a man with white hair repeating a message in that weird field, and they said he was a programmer, and there is, of course, Magic Voice and its machinations to make Tsukasa depressed (which had an effect on Aura...for some reason...), but most of that seems right out of nowhere.
Now that I think of it, you might not be able to get all of that out of just .hack//sign. You really do need to watch at least the .hack//Liminality 4 part ova set as well (you dont really need to play the games, but they are fairly fun in their own right).
As to the funky pig/cow thing that someone mentioned, they are called Grunties (or Puchiguso in japanese), if you play the game you get the chance to raise them by feeding various collectable goodies to them. When they reach maturity they 'evolve' into a specific type of adult depending on what you have fead them. If you happen to have already rased that type of adult, the second one is considered extra, and will bid you farewell as it gallops up into the air and vanishes! Rather funny to watch.
Ah, that is why the sad one claimed that "another of his kind" was not needed, and thus left! Hah!
Can you really gleam all of that from the series? There was a man with white hair repeating a message in that weird field, and they said he was a programmer, and there is, of course, Magic Voice and its machinations to make Tsukasa depressed (which had an effect on Aura...for some reason...), but most of that seems right out of nowhere.
As you watch the series, you begin to understand why these things happen and how. It's like a good detective story. You really don't know for sure what's going on until the end. And that's what makes it so great. You get to try and figure out what's going on instead of having the plot spoon fed to you.
Yeah, this series is DEFINATELY not about action. If you absolutely must have some action in your anime, this isn't one for you. On the other hand, if you like lots of character interaction and discussions between them, this is your anime.
Oh, and watching the series makes the games SO much better. For those of you who play the games and haven't watched the .hack//SIGN series, you should really see it to get the full impact from the games.
.hack is one of my favorites. sign, dusk, lim.,gift. and the games 2 that should be it. does so know where i can get the unreleased epsiodes 27-2X. i just ve 28 but it makes no sence (nothin makes sence in .hack ;)) without 27. are they on the last dvd?? :help: watchin gift i just couldnt stop laughin, although they sometimes overdid it.
Wandering A.I.
2003-11-29, 23:40
I remember reading 27 & 28 will be on volume six of the US release in the animeondvd.com forums, but it might have been unconfirmed/rumor. Anyway 27 wouldn't help with 28 much. IIRC 27 was a side story about Mimiru's past where she and two friends worked together on a super powerful character (another one of those neat MMORPG tie ins, I remember doing that in a MUD once - it's so cool ^^ - altho not as easy to do and appear sane as in more strategy based games since MUDs have so much guild/player interaction).
Actuall, Mimiru wasnt one fo the the people team playing the Super High level character. Those three girls were different people. And team playing is still fairly common, even in modern MMOGS.
Maybe it means I'm insecure, but I'd like to make it clear that the lack of action in no way contributed to my eventual dislike of SIGN, and I say "eventual" because I liked it until the ending episodes and the final episode itself were so very weak.
If you haven't played the games, it will seem that way.
The games carry on about a few months after the series.
The first boss, Skeith, is that monster with the wand that showed up at the very end of SIGN and data drained Sora. He data-drains your friend in the "World", which gets your character involved in the events. SIGN is meant as a prequel to the games, the games are the CORE of the story. SIGN merely shows you what went on before the games started.
You need to play the games to get the full fill of the series.
SIGN merely shows you what went on before the games started.
Well, that's just lame. I shouldn't be expected to go out and buy a PS2 and four very short (and rather expensive) games to understand what the hell is going on. Screw it. Of course, they rightfully try to compensate for this; the whole Tsukasa thing (while tied in to the games in some way, I'm sure) does conclude, making it SIGN's and SIGN's alone, the problem being that I felt that was weak and rather cliche. Honestly, how many anime shows are about overcoming introversion and depression? And how many do a better job than SIGN? Hint: the answer is the same both times.
That was actually rather snide of me...I apologize.
Big Fat Spoiler comin'
And another thing...as I said before, I thought SIGN's treatment of the obvious World vs. real life concept was weak, and I'd like to add that it was especially so with regards to Tsukasa and Subaru. If the avatars represented their real bodies, I'd say that they had a love plot going, but they're not an early adolescent boy and an early adolescent girl, they’re actually both female and quite apart in age…that’s interesting! What do they do now? But that’s not addressed in the least, even in the last scene, really, when they actually see each other in real life. Bah!
There is no need to apologize. We all have our opinions.
Well, I just meant that last few sentences there, with the “hint.” I still think SIGN ends out weak, but that was a bit much, I thought.
Village Idiot
2003-12-05, 04:26
Big Fat Spoiler comin'
And another thing...as I said before, I thought SIGN's treatment of the obvious World vs. real life concept was weak, and I'd like to add that it was especially so with regards to Tsukasa and Subaru. If the avatars represented their real bodies, I'd say that they had a love plot going, but they're not an early adolescent boy and an early adolescent girl, they’re actually both female and quite apart in age…that’s interesting! What do they do now? But that’s not addressed in the least, even in the last scene, really, when they actually see each other in real life. Bah!
Yes, Tsukasa and Subaru became a couple at the end of //SIGN (yuri!). In //ZERO (novel that takes place after //SIGN but before //INFECTION) we find more information about the //SIGN characters. In it, we learn that after Tsukasa woke up, she and Subaru started seeing each other and became a couple. They became seperated though because Tsukasa transfered to an all-girls-school dorm, but they still kept in touch.
And as for the .hack timeline, it goes...
//AI BUSTER (novel)
//Intermezzo (ep27 of //SIGN)
//SIGN
//ZERO (novel)
//INFECTION + Liminality 1
//MUTATION + Liminality 2
//OUTBREAK + Liminality 3
//QUARANTINE + Liminality 4
//UNISON (ep28 of //SIGN)
//Legend of the Twilight (manga verison is the official continunity. The manga version is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the anime)
There is another novel called //ANOTHER BIRTH, which is a novel version of the games told through BlackRose's view point. Note: Bandai has no plans so far about translating neither that nor //AI BUSTER and //ZERO over here.
If you want to know what those two novels are about...
//AI BUSTER
It takes place years prior to //SIGN and takes place during the early days of 'The World'. It's about a Heavy Axe called Albieo, whom strangely have 2 different colored eyes. One day, he finds a strange blind little girl with red/yellow hair, is dressed all in white, and is called Lycoris, a Wandering AI whom looks exactly like Aura.
//ZERO
Takes place right after //SIGN ends, and ends right before //INFECTION begins. The story is about Sora as well as tells how Aura grows up. The novel also reveals information about what happened to the //SIGN characters and info about them in real life.
Yes, Tsukasa and Subaru became a couple at the end of //SIGN
Just like that?....that’s not particularly interesting…of course, that synopsis hopefully doesn’t do the actual novel justice…which I’ll probably never read...Bah! I'm just gonna go watch FLCL again!
Asakura_Y0h
2004-01-28, 20:46
Don't know if this is the right place to put this thread but I think its been licensed. Can't check anime nfo now cause I can't seem to get to the page so here goes...
Need to know if Hack/Sign is any good and if it is I wanna know why... As in what type of viewers would like this type of show and so forth... If you're not sure what to say... just a yes, no or somewhere in between on the poll would do.... thanks
It had a lot of potential and nice style, and was really good for a while but the several episodes at the end are very weak and the answers to what is going on are uninteresting, and it ties a bit too much in the game a bit at the end, I thought. It was like "Thanks for watching, BUY .HACK GAMES!"
Note that Tsukasa is a whiny angst-pile in case you happen to feel strongly about that sort of thing.
Kinda lame overall, really.
Well when I was watching it, I missed 3 eps in a row. I really didn't care, but when I picked it up again. I started to make up the story lines to the eps I missed. I finally got around to watching all of them. My version of events was better.
:hmm:
The thing you have to realy understand with .hack//sign is that it's a prequel to the games. To fully aprishiate the tv series you have to be willing to put the time in with the games, so you can fully get the final 2 episodes on disc 6. All in all it's a good series.
Prince of Chronics
2004-01-29, 01:33
nah... imo... you don't need to play those crap ps2 games!
hack sign is alright... but you're gonna have to live with LOTS of talking... the music is great though!
I'm not saying that is bad... well nevermind I'm. I did play the first game. I just recently beat it, a lot of work got in the way. I'm planning to play all of them, but not any time soon. It have a lot of talking, cloak and dagger type stuff. Theres action in everyother eps. You should watch it, but not go out of your way to do so.
EDIT: The games are good. It just that there are 4 of then. and no story liine is worth paying $200 dollars for ($50 for a new copy each).
Asakura_Y0h
2004-01-29, 02:24
Hmm... seems like the anime is pretty average... perhaps playin the games might be a good idea... are the games out in english editions already?
Prince of Chronics
2004-01-29, 02:36
the ps2 game comes in 4 parts... and i think 3 of the 4 have been converted to English... but trust me! i've played the first and second games... they are crap! they tried to make it feel like a MMORPG... but they failed miserably at it... the only thing worth while from those damn games was the Liminality OVAs... I say rent em b4 you buy them....
Go-lytely
2004-01-29, 02:45
Boring...so boring. I dont mind talking animes but they talk about stuff that isnt even remotely interesting. Yeah, I'm the one that gave the no vote.
The thing you have to realy understand with .hack//sign is that it's a prequel to the games. To fully aprishiate the tv series you have to be willing to put the time in with the games, so you can fully get the final 2 episodes on disc 6.
Ah, and that pisses me off. I'm not going to run out and buy a PS2 and four unethically short games just like that. SIGN should have been able to stand on its own, in at least some ways....in fact, they tried. Tsukasa's depression and emotional journey is SIGN's bag, but it's cliche and has been done a great deal better elsewhere. Bleh!
Asakura_Y0h
2004-01-29, 03:32
Ah, and that pisses me off. I'm not going to run out and buy a PS2 and four unethically short games just like that. SIGN should have been able to stand on its own, in at least some ways....in fact, they tried. Tsukasa's depression and emotional journey is SIGN's bag, but it's cliche and has been done a great deal better elsewhere. Bleh!
sorry... but don't quite understand what you mean by "a great deal better elsewhere".... do you mean his type of character or do you mean something else???? :confused:
The whole "I'm sad and depressed, I'm gonna run away and hide......Oh, the events of this series have taught me to embrace life and try to be happy" thing.....it's fairly common in anime with some variation in form, and they're all better done than the one in SIGN.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-01-29, 04:31
The whole "I'm sad and depressed, I'm gonna run away and hide......Oh, the events of this series have taught me to embrace life and try to be happy" thing.....it's fairly common in anime with some variation in form, and they're all better done than the one in SIGN.
AH.... sounds like Kamui from X TV or Makubex from GetBackers ..... so I suppose its somewhere along those lines... I like that kind of thing but is it bad because there is nothing interesting about the character itself or is it because there isn't much of a underlying story to him ..... and I take it that this Tsukasa guy is the main character right?
He's a central piece to the story, but everyone seems to be fairly main and important. Though there is a lot of focus on Tsukasa.
It's a nice series, just takes some time
I definetly like the show. I think it requires a much more mature audience because in order for one to truly appreciate it they need to pay attention! But the animation is nice and has great voice acting. Also you don't need to play the games too understand the show. But yeah its definetly an aquired taste
Asakura_Y0h
2004-01-29, 23:41
hmm.... ok... after all the feed back I went and watched the 1st 3 eps..... erm.... must say am totally lost... don't know what's going on or why he's the way he is..... erm... but i must say that all the technical aspects of the anime are great like the sound, animation, soundtrack, voices and stuff...
but can someone tell me if this is going to end with a cliffhanger or will there be some end to it... doesn't have to be a good end just whether or not there is an end.... cause if there isn't... i don't think I wanna obtain anymore of the series...
There kinda isn't....on an emotional level, there is an ending of sorts for two of the most important characters (better then how some series end, though), and then there's the BUY .HACK GAMES part....which is no ending of any kind.
It's actually quite good for a while...maybe 13 episodes or so. Then it kinda melts away. There's some good fun....the sad pig-cow flying into the sky is in 01, isn't it?
And then there's that episode that focuses on Mimaru.:D
The more you watch it the more sense it starts to make. You could get a better understanding by playing the games but the only problem is that they are fairly short and quite expensive since each of the games comes with a DVD. I can't really tell you the ending because i actually havn't seen it :heh: sorry
Asakura_Y0h
2004-01-30, 23:19
The more you watch it the more sense it starts to make. You could get a better understanding by playing the games but the only problem is that they are fairly short and quite expensive since each of the games comes with a DVD. I can't really tell you the ending because i actually havn't seen it :heh: sorry
went to animenfo and now I'm REALLY confused.... what's with all the other Hack____ series??? There's so many of them... are they all interlinked.. or stand alones... and if there are games that make the sequence to Hack//sign... which is first.....??? or are all the hack____ linked with each other and goes in order... cause if it does then maybe that's why the show isn't as great unless a person watches all of the Hack titles
went to animenfo and now I'm REALLY confused.... what's with all the other Hack____ series??? There's so many of them... are they all interlinked.. or stand alones... and if there are games that make the sequence to Hack//sign... which is first.....??? or are all the hack____ linked with each other and goes in order... cause if it does then maybe that's why the show isn't as great unless a person watches all of the Hack titles
Hack Series has always been enjoyable for me. //Hack Sign should be the first then came out hack// dusk, Hack dusk is a more chibi version and there are some characters u'll notice in hack sign appearing in //hack dusk. IMO i watched dusk first and sign later, bud due to the big change in the style .. i kinda dropped sign, i should had watch sign first..
Biohazard
2004-01-31, 12:12
I think .hack//SIGN is great!
Really.
But that is partly because i like anime that are much about feelings, and where you can actually sorta "dive" into the characters to understand their feelings and all...
If you want action, dont look .hack//SIGN
.hack//SIGN is like 90% talking, talking and talking, just talking, but if you can get into it, its very interesting, the plot is good and you partly uncover reasons, that you'r missing at first, and it really really takes awhile until you can finally see the whole picture, and you easily miss information if you only watch it once...
Its really complicated at times, but i really like that.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-02-04, 03:40
ok. after listening to what the poll said i went out and bought myself the DVD limited edition with nice cover and stuff.... after watching the 1st 3 eps from my friend have decided to spend and keep this one because of the graphic quality and sound track...
thanks for all the opinions that you guys have contributed.... however i must say i regret one thing though... my bank account looks kinda empty now after this purchase.... sniff sniff...
I voted inbetween.
This because I wasn't satisfied in the end.
The music was great indeed, but it left a great deal uncoverd...
I would like to see more explanations in the end, but well... It was worth my time.
I liked it because after you go to sleep when you watched another 5 eps, you go down thinking. That is something most series do not!
BTW, which series are there with this kind of 'thinking' ?
Asakura_Y0h
2004-02-08, 21:55
ok.... i've finished watching it and i must say... it was one twisted ending... i am confused as heck and furthermore... what's with the DVD subs????? i think someone in commented on it before and the subs were horrible... although i don't speak japanese i was forced to listen to the language rather than read the subs.... i think my japanese just improved by 20%..... i think i got ripped off
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 01:28
hi. i've been watching hack sign. but alot of the plot i do not understand. like
who is aura, why is she so impt. why can't tsukana log out, its as if there is no computer there
how he got in The World.
whats this anime all abt?
hi. i've been watching hack sign. but alot of the plot i do not understand. like
who is aura, why is she so impt. why can't tsukana log out, its as if there is no computer there
how he got in The World.
whats this anime all abt?
Uh... how much of the anime have you watched? You'd need to sort of watch the whole anime to understand exactly what was going on.
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 02:54
Uh... how much of the anime have you watched? You'd need to sort of watch the whole anime to understand exactly what was going on.
i watched first 6 episodes. got impatient. and dled the ending. haha so i am watching forward 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
and backwards 26 27 25 24 23...
Someone posted a .hack timeline a little while ago...search for it.
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 04:07
Someone posted a .hack timeline a little while ago...search for it.
doesn't help much...
i'm watching all in a mix.. watching 25 now.. bear offered to be tsukada's guardian..
does that mean the player is an orphan? how come she is in a coma in a hospital
who is the cat maho?
there seems to be some conspiracy about the World. whats going on? haha
hmmm. lets see........
You are watching the series out of order and
now you dont know whats going on ?
Well, DOH!
Here is a thought, See all the eps in order and you'll understand whats going on ;)
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 08:52
hmmm. lets see........
You are watching the series out of order and
now you dont know whats going on ?
Well, DOH!
Here is a thought, See all the eps in order and you'll understand whats going on ;)
haha i know.. sounds dumb right.. i get so impatient i want to know the ending so bad.
=P
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 10:48
just curious.. does the anime hack sign, occur after the game or smth?
cause in episode one begining, it just show tsukasa being lost in a cave, it doesn't explain how it got there, in fact, he's actually not even physically connected to the game.
thats one thing tt confuses me.
just curious.. does the anime hack sign, occur after the game or smth?
cause in episode one begining, it just show tsukasa being lost in a cave, it doesn't explain how it got there, in fact, he's actually not even physically connected to the game.
thats one thing tt confuses me.
In America there is nothing that takes place before .hack//sign and it is the first of the .hack project. There is a novel explaining the beginning of the game and about balmung and such but it hasn't been translated yet. It is assumed that Tsukasa was just exploring the dungean. Later on in that episode he explains what happened before he regained conciousness.
hi. i've been watching hack sign. but alot of the plot i do not understand. like
who is aura, why is she so impt. why can't tsukana log out, its as if there is no computer there
how he got in The World.
whats this anime all abt?
This show is very complicated and you really need to pay attention to understand it, which is why i like it more than your average action animes. There is alot you can learn from the show but if you really wanna get indepth with .hack I would suggest getting the games, which follows up the series a couple years later. Your really missing alot though thats in the middle of the series which explains what is going on. Expecially when it gets to the point when they are meeting Harold Horwic. Maybe watch the episodes in order then you might understand why everything is so weird in the end
Aura is...difficult to explain, she's essentially an AI program with influence within the world. in the games she gives Kite his bracelet. Essentially she is the "child" of the creator (harald).
Tsukasa cannot log out because Aura is unborn...or something. Aura cannot be born because Tsukasa cannot log out. I'm pretty sure it's when Tsukasa decides (s)he WANTS to log out that (s)he actually does (Tsukasa is actually a girl)
i'm pretty sure Tsukasa had a bunch of insecurities in real life and was somehow "drawn into" the game itself.
it's similar to how Orca, Sieg, Sora, and 2-3hers are drawn in (an article in one of the games lists 6 people went comatose...Orca and Sieg (Sieg is mentioned in .hack//LIMINALITY, he's Mai's boyfriend) are obviously two of them, and at the end of SIGN Sora goes comatose too. Even though Tsukasa is no longer comatose by the time the games start, she could still count as one of the unexplained comatose people.
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 22:31
oh no!!!!
i accidentally downloaded another anime.. hack dusk!
it also talks abt The World, and Aura.. but the artistry is different. mimiru is a kid. and Aura looks like the bad guy
is it linked to hack sign, can i understand hack sign without hack dusk??
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 22:35
Aura is...difficult to explain, she's essentially an AI program with influence within the world. in the games she gives Kite his bracelet. Essentially she is the "child" of the creator (harald).
Tsukasa cannot log out because Aura is unborn...or something. Aura cannot be born because Tsukasa cannot log out. I'm pretty sure it's when Tsukasa decides (s)he WANTS to log out that (s)he actually does (Tsukasa is actually a girl)
i'm pretty sure Tsukasa had a bunch of insecurities in real life and was somehow "drawn into" the game itself.
it's similar to how Orca, Sieg, Sora, and 2-3hers are drawn in (an article in one of the games lists 6 people went comatose...Orca and Sieg (Sieg is mentioned in .hack//LIMINALITY, he's Mai's boyfriend) are obviously two of them, and at the end of SIGN Sora goes comatose too. Even though Tsukasa is no longer comatose by the time the games start, she could still count as one of the unexplained comatose people.
hmm why Tsukasa doesn't want to log out. but he isn't connected to a computer.
yea u said smth abt Aura giving the braclet to kite, i downloaded an episode of hack dusk, it said smth abt that.. sheesh.. i am confused now
hmm why Tsukasa doesn't want to log out. but he isn't connected to a computer.
yea u said smth abt Aura giving the braclet to kite, i downloaded an episode of hack dusk, it said smth abt that.. sheesh.. i am confused now
Just watch the hack sign series from start to end already ~_~
If you don't have the patience to sit through it, then you probably won't have the patience to sit down and think about how everything fits together.
brassmonkey
2004-03-04, 23:02
Just watch the hack sign series from start to end already ~_~
If you don't have the patience to sit through it, then you probably won't have the patience to sit down and think about how everything fits together.
haha thats why i read forums where ppl argue abt such stuff. that way i understand better.
i read somewhere, Tsukasa's player was put into a coma when Tsukasa was Data Drained. While Tsukasa was in a coma, he somehow kept a tenuous mental link with the game - specifically, while his mind in the real world seemed to be totally shut down, really his thoughts were in 'The World'... basically it was like he was playing 'The World' even though he wasn't at a console.
=P
no idea how accurate is that
love u guys for replying. tnx
oh no!!!!
i accidentally downloaded another anime.. hack dusk!
it also talks abt The World, and Aura.. but the artistry is different. mimiru is a kid. and Aura looks like the bad guy
is it linked to hack sig n
its linked to hack sign too, just that the timeline is after hack sign
can i understand hack sign without hack dusk??
though there are simliarity, yes you can understand it totally without hack dusk
brassmonkey
2004-03-06, 01:56
its linked to hack sign too, just that the timeline is after hack sign
though there are simliarity, yes you can understand it totally without hack dusk
haha but if hack sign is the begining... why don't they show who data drained tsukasa
haha but if hack sign is the begining... why don't they show who data drained tsukasa
did he got data drained ? i just thought he cant log out
Dreamhacker
2004-12-08, 15:32
Now 5 of the .hack//SIGN DVD's been released in Europe, but does anyone know when the 6th disc will come? Kinda wanna know the end of it soon, and I don't know where to look for anouncements about the series releases...
MartAnimE
2004-12-08, 15:38
Could you please tell me where in Europe were those released? And which company is releasing it? And any information on the available languages subtitles would be great also! :)
Look at www.animeondvd.com 's forums, paticularly in the Region 2(UK)/4(australia) forum.
MartAnimE
2004-12-08, 16:45
Look at www.animeondvd.com 's forums, paticularly in the Region 2(UK)/4(australia) forum.
Thanks for the information :) Actually, when I've read Europe I was thinking France, Germany, Spain, Portugal... but it seems you were talking about the UK release... anime dvd releases on UK are much more accessible, since they usually just change the region 1 US dvd release to region 2 and save a lot of work with that (adv does that)...
For a moment I thought dynamic was releasing .hack//SIGN around the rest of Europe or something... :sad:
Orchunter226
2004-12-09, 13:29
Personally i loved hwo the plot moved slowly and they developed the characters. I enjoyed the show very much and i dont think its needed action.
SkyDragon
2006-04-23, 20:38
I actually liked this series until the ending...Seem like either the company ran out of money or get rich and didn't give a crap anymore. I was also expecting longer battle...*sigh* That's what you get from a "half ass cheap ending". :frustrated:
Atleast the OST is still awesome!!!:)
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