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Okay I have I only gotten one BT that went at 50 k/s so far. I downloaded a total 0f about 54 eps so far. I've been happy to get speeds of 10 k/s. So I was wondering if thats normal or I have a problem with my system. I have DSL so that can't be problem.
Okay I have I only gotten one BT that went at 50 k/s so far. I downloaded a total 0f about 54 eps so far. I've been happy to get speeds of 10 k/s. So I was wondering if thats normal or I have a problem with my system. I have DSL so that can't be problem.
Hm, if you use firewall or router, have you seen this thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=1683)?
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Hm, if you use firewall or router, have you seen this thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=1683)?
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Okay I'll beleive that it isn't my firewall..... and I disabled the windows firewall. I just tested it to make sure it wasn't my and it is still going at that rate. :(
I have seen that forum.
Okay I'll beleive that it isn't my firewall..... and I disabled the windows firewall. I just tested it to make sure it wasn't my and it is still going at that rate. :(
I have seen that forum.What firewall are you using? And are you using a router?
What BitTorrent client are you using?
I would like to recommend Shadow's unofficial client (http://bt.degreez.net/) because it is up-to-date, shows how many peers you're connected to, and has an Advanced window that identifies whether a peer is "local" or "remote". We can easily determine whether you have a port blocked issue by examining this Advanced window: If you don't see any "remote" peers after a few minutes, then you definitely have some type of port issue (blocked or misconfigured).
So if you'll give Shadow's client a try, we can narrow down what your problem is. And if it's not a port issue, then you can try minimizing your upload to see if your slow download speed is due to your upload bandwidth being saturated (all used up).
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
What firewall are you using? And are you using a router?
What BitTorrent client are you using?
I would like to recommend Shadow's unofficial client (http://bt.degreez.net/) because it is up-to-date, shows how many peers you're connected to, and has an Advanced window that identifies whether a peer is "local" or "remote". We can easily determine whether you have a port blocked issue by examining this Advanced window: If you don't see any "remote" peers after a few minutes, then you definitely have some type of port issue (blocked or misconfigured).
So if you'll give Shadow's client a try, we can narrow down what your problem is. And if it's not a port issue, then you can try minimizing your upload to see if your slow download speed is due to your upload bandwidth being saturated (all used up).
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
I have Zone alarm and I have no router. I'll check out That site. Thank you for your help. On a side note I know what saturated is. :)
The BT program I'm using is burst. I beleive that its based off of Shadow.
I have Zone alarm and I have no router. I'll check out That site. Thank you for your help. On a side note I know what saturated is. :)
The BT program I'm using is burst. I beleive that its based off of Shadow.
Ok, so does Burst have some sort of Advanced window that allows you to see how many and what type of peers (local vs. remote) you're connecting to? If so, do you see any remote peers?
As for ZoneAlarm, the free version has no option to open ports, so you can't have it running if you want an optimal download speed. Even if you configured BitTorrent as a client and as a server, ZoneAlarm free version will still block the ports (as evidenced by ZoneAlarm's logfile).
However, ZoneAlarm Pro version does have an advanced option to open ports, so it should be okay to keep it running as long as the ports are opened.
Anyhow, whether with Burst or Shadow's client, please verify whether or not you're able to see remote peers.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Ok, so does Burst have some sort of Advanced window that allows you to see how many and what type of peers (local vs. remote) you're connecting to? If so, do you see any remote peers?
As for ZoneAlarm, the free version has no option to open ports, so you can't have it running if you want an optimal download speed. Even if you configured BitTorrent as a client and as a server, ZoneAlarm free version will still block the ports (as evidenced by ZoneAlarm's logfile).
However, ZoneAlarm Pro version does have an advanced option to open ports, so it should be okay to keep it running as long as the ports are opened.
Anyhow, whether with Burst or Shadow's client, please verify whether or not you're able to see remote peers.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
I turned Zone Alarm off and it still did that.... no There isn't any way to see remote/ local peers. So I'll download shadow and see if that makes any difference. Thank a lot for your help.
Okay it seems to be going alittle better but still not sure what the problem is. Shadow just gives me more info and I notice this time I'm still downloading slow except from one person.
--Update--
Nevermind, it nosed dived.
Okay it seems to be going alittle better but still not sure what the problem is. Shadow just gives me more info and I notice this time I'm still downloading slow except from one person.
--Update--
Nevermind, it nosed dived.
... So are you seeing any remote peers? (Check third column of Advanced window.)
... So are you seeing any remote peers? (Check third column of Advanced window.)
No they're all local. The proformance is just alittle better then Burst, but I haven't really got to fully test it out yet mostly been finnishing up some near end DLs. I think I'll use both, Burst to start multi DLs and Shadow to finnish them up. I was wondering can you do multi downloads with shadow?
No they're all local. The proformance is just alittle better then Burst, but I haven't really got to fully test it out yet mostly been finnishing up some near end DLs. I think I'll use both, Burst to start multi DLs and Shadow to finnish them up. I was wondering can you do multi downloads with shadow?Yes, of course you can do batch downloads with Shadow.
Ok, we're finally getting somewhere. Since you are not seeing any remote peers, your problem for sure has to do with ports 6881 to 6889 being blocked.
Are you sure that you're not running any other firewalls (including XP's built-in firewall)?
Are you sure that your PC has a public IP address? If you want, you can send your IP address to me by PM, and I can try to ping you. (A private IP address means that you are netmasked behind a router somewhere.)
Do you know if your ISP is intentionally blocking traffic on those ports?
I noticed from your profile that you are a student. Are you downloading from a school's network?
(Sorry about all the questions.)
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Yes, of course you can do batch downloads with Shadow.
Ok, we're finally getting somewhere. Since you are not seeing any remote peers, your problem for sure has to do with ports 6881 to 6889 being blocked.
Are you sure that you're not running any other firewalls (including XP's built-in firewall)?
Are you sure that your PC has a public IP address? If you want, you can send your IP address to me by PM, and I can try to ping you. (A private IP address means that you are netmasked behind a router somewhere.)
Do you know if your ISP is intentionally blocking traffic on those ports?
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
No firewalls (Zonealert is off now) Not sure if IP is public or not and I'm not really sure what the address is (ISP is dhcp) but I can ping out. Not sure if ISP is blocking either. Any suggestions?
No firewalls (Zonealert is off now) Not sure if IP is public or not and I'm not really sure what the address is (ISP is dhcp) but I can ping out. Not sure if ISP is blocking either. Any suggestions?
It's never any problem to ping out.
To obtain your PC's IP address, open up a Command Prompt (a.k.a. "DOS box"), and type 'ipconfig' (no quotes).
I got your PM. Yep, you are definitely netmasked behind a router. Any IP address that starts with 192.168.xxx.xxx is a dead-giveaway that you are netmasked behind a router. (Therefore, my ping can not reach you.)
Even though you said you don't have a router (in the same room as you), there must be a router somewhere directly upstream from you.
So unless you have administrator access to that router, or unless you can get the administrator to forward incoming data on ports 6881 through 6889 to your specific private IP address, you are stuck with your poor download speeds.
BTW, are you connected through a school's network?
-- Sour-Do
I got your PM. Yep, you are definitely netmasked behind a router. Any IP address that starts with 192.168.xxx.xxx is a dead-giveaway that you are netmasked behind a router. (Therefore, my ping can not reach you.)
Even though you said you don't have a router (in the same room as you), there must be a router somewhere directly upstream from you.
So unless you have administrator access to that router, or unless you can get the administrator to forward incoming data on ports 6881 through 6889 to your specific private IP address, you are stuck with your poor download speeds.
BTW, are you connected through a school's network?
-- Sour-Do
Nope, home. ISP is MSN/Quest. Oh well not sure what to do know.
Nope, home. ISP is MSN/Quest. Oh well not sure what to do know.
Ok, then is your PC connected directly to the DSL modem, or through some other PC?
Ok, then is your PC connected directly to the DSL modem, or through some other PC?
Directly to the modem
Directly to the modemThen there are only two possibilities left (sorry if too technical):
1) Your ISP is implementing NAT somewhere upstream, which sucks, because I believe that every ISP should provide you with at least one dynamically allocated public IP address.
2) Either your DSL modem is a modem/router combo unit, or your PPPoE login program is also acting as a software router. Either way, they are providing network address translation (NAT) as a basic form of protection for your PC.
I think the next step is for you to call up your ISP, check any manuals they provided you, or check the ISP's website to find out what your network configuration is and how to get those ports forwarded to your PC.
Can't help you if your situation is 1) above.
But in case your situation is 2)... What brand is your DSL modem? Model number? What's the name of the software login program are you using (if any)? Check manufacturer's/developer's website for more clues.
Do you get any kind of router configuration page or prompt for password when you click on http://192.168.1.1 ?
-- Sour-Do
Then there are only two possibilities left (sorry if too technical):
1) Your ISP is implementing NAT somewhere upstream, which sucks, because I believe that every ISP should provide you with at least one dynamically allocated public IP address.
2) Either your DSL modem is a modem/router combo unit, or your PPPoE login program is also acting as a software router. Either way, they are providing network address translation (NAT) as a basic form of protection for your PC.
I think the next step is for you to call up your ISP, check any manuals they provided you, or check the ISP's website to find out what your network configuration is and how to get those ports forwarded to your PC.
Can't help you if your situation is 1) above.
But in case your situation is 2)... What brand is your DSL modem? Model number? What's the name of the software login program are you using (if any)? Check manufacturer's/developer's website for more clues.
-- Sour-Do
Will do, I'll post again sometime in the afternoon after making a few calls. Thanks for all the help you've given me, much appreciated.
Will do, I'll post again sometime in the afternoon after making a few calls. Thanks for all the help you've given me, much appreciated.(Oops, looks like I didn't get my edit in before your most recent reply. You're welcome, BTW.)
Do you get any kind of router configuration page or prompt for password when you click on http://192.168.1.1 (http://192.168.1.1/) ?
(Oops, looks like I didn't get my edit in before your most recent reply. You're welcome, BTW.)
Do you get any kind of router configuration page or prompt for password when you click on http://192.168.1.1 (http://192.168.1.1/) ?
No just a status page, but it does give a NAT IP address so I'm think the second option applies but still not sure.
No just a status page, but it does give a NAT IP address so I'm think the second option applies but still not sure.
Okay they told me that there is a firewall program on the modem, an Arescom NETDSL 800, I'm trying to find info on their site about 3rd party modems but it's like pulling teeth.
--update--
Okay I found a guy that said that their modems are suppose to get an ungrade to one that has the option to turn of the firewall, he recommends a Cisco 678 until then.
Okay they told me that there is a firewall program on the modem, an Arescom NETDSL 800, I'm trying to find info on their site about 3rd party modems but it's like pulling teeth.
--update--
Okay I found a guy that said that their modems are suppose to get an ungrade to one that has the option to turn of the firewall, he recommends a Cisco 678 until then.Here's a webpage I googled for you to get those ports forwarded:
http://bespin.org/~merwin/arescom/
Hint: In Step 7 of the procedure in the link, you probably only have to setup one of those six tables, namely:
Low: 6881
High: 6889
Control: 200
External IP Address: 192.168.1.2
TCP/UDP: TCP
But make sure that you've read and understand everything in that procedure before attempting it. (I take no resposibility...)
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Here's a webpage I googled for you to get those ports forwarded:
http://bespin.org/~merwin/arescom/
Hint: In Step 7 of the procedure in the link, you probably only have to setup one of those six tables, namely:
Low: 6881
High: 6889
Control: 200
External IP Address: 192.168.1.2
TCP/UDP: TCP
But make sure that you've read and understand everything in that procedure before attempting it. (I take no resposibility...)
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
No joy. I tried the software it doesn't see the modem, the telnet window says connecting and then the window goes away.
No joy. I tried the software it doesn't see the modem, the telnet window says connecting and then the window goes away.
I wonder if I buy a Microsoft DSL modem would that work.
;) :D HAHAHa
No joy. I tried the software it doesn't see the modem, the telnet window says connecting and then the window goes away.That's odd, the procedure is for the same exact modem model that you have... Step 1 says that the software has some troubleshooting methods you can take a look at to get the software to detect the modem. Or maybe try again after rebooting the modem & PC?
Oh well, maybe there is no solution for you except to switch ISP... Sorry about that.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
That's odd, the procedure is for the same exact modem model that you have... Step 1 says that the software has some troubleshooting methods you can take a look at to get the software to detect the modem. Or maybe try again after rebooting the modem & PC?
Oh well, maybe there is no solution for you except to switch ISP... Sorry about that.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
I emailed the guy about the modem and got a response:
"I think you're out of luck as far as the arescom part goes. The newer modems
(for the last couple years) have had the ports disabled without any possibility
of enabling them."
:sad: I feel I'm being screwed by MSN, hehehe.
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