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chrno
2006-07-27, 19:31
The official site has some caps of TV / DVD differences:

http://witchblade.jp/gallery/dvd.html

Expect some more info once I get my hands on the DVD.

It's about time they updated the gallery section. Funny thing is I gave up checking since they only had the promotional movie. Now folks, you're questions have been answered about the differences between the TV show and the movie. Ingrain this into your mind so you may spread the knowledge. :p

Thanks xizro345 for that info. :cool:

Also, there will be an "establishment works" ("setteishiryoushuu" which is basically an artbook), which is scheduled for a August 2006 release. I had originally posted this awhile back but at that time it was scheduled for December. I guess they're moving it up since the show is coming to a close. Now the question is will this be all that they are collecting artwise or will there be something else? And if so, will it be available to purchase from "accessible" online retailers? :hmm:

http://shop.frontierworks.jp/detail.asp?merchcd=MOVIC-0585

Keeping my eye out for this one. Will have more info. at some point.

ChibiGoku
2006-07-28, 09:02
Witchblade Edit List
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God this feels wrong doing an edit list for a japanese tv broadcast.

1. The TV version in pan-scanned. This is very strange, because the high-definition broadcast is also presented this way.

2. Opening shot is voiced by Masane rather than the narrator in the dvd version than the one you hear normally. Also, it is very silent, and you get to hear a bit more of the blood dripping. Also, the dialog seems to be completely different.

3. The opening is less censored, and timed a bit differently. Also, there is some new animation. (It's a bit hard to get into detailed) Also, the credits have been redone.

4. Opening shot is blackened in the TV version, to cover the impalement shot, and the girl being completely covered in tentacles. (Or whatever the hell those things are.)

5. Just for a record, there's some small detail changes in the DVD version, including some random people changes, but these seem more for fixing some mistakes. I won't note these. The ones that are involved in censorship, I will list.

6. In the small shopping area, the camera pans down a bit slower in the tv version.

7. There's a small cut that seems to happen around Masane and Rihoko are eating some soup. (The TV version and DVD version loose sync a little here)

8. There's another small cut after the chase scene in the TV version. Again, can't place it. Again, my copy went out of sync slightly.

9. During the transformation sequence, Masane's body is less censored, and reveals a bit more in the DVD version. Also, from this point on, her crotch and most of her body is covered up in the TV version, so I won't note this.

Also, one last thing. She has no nipples in neither version showing.

10. Cell block is cleaned up to remove the blood surrounding the area in the TV version. However, this is inconsistant sense the next shot shows the blood splattered on the cell bars.

11. When Masane walks out of her cell, there's a shot of her ass showing, that is replaced by a shot of the monster looking over to her in the TV version. Nothing is lost.

12. The ending shots of Masane are less covered up. Also, credits are rearranged and timed a bit differently.

13. Some of the animation is timed differently in the ending.

And... That's as far as I can tell censorship wise.

chrno
2006-07-28, 10:20
Witchblade Edit List
--------------------------

God this feels wrong doing an edit list for a japanese tv broadcast.

1. The TV version in pan-scanned. This is very strange, because the high-definition broadcast is also presented this way.

2. Opening shot is voiced by Masane rather than the narrator in the dvd version than the one you hear normally. Also, it is very silent, and you get to hear a bit more of the blood dripping. Also, the dialog seems to be completely different.

3. The opening is less censored, and timed a bit differently. Also, there is some new animation. (It's a bit hard to get into detailed) Also, the credits have been redone.

4. Opening shot is blackened in the TV version, to cover the impalement shot, and the girl being completely covered in tentacles. (Or whatever the hell those things are.)

5. Just for a record, there's some small detail changes in the DVD version, including some random people changes, but these seem more for fixing some mistakes. I won't note these. The ones that are involved in censorship, I will list.

6. In the small shopping area, the camera pans down a bit slower in the tv version.

7. There's a small cut that seems to happen around Masane and Rihoko are eating some soup. (The TV version and DVD version loose sync a little here)

8. There's another small cut after the chase scene in the TV version. Again, can't place it. Again, my copy went out of sync slightly.

9. During the transformation sequence, Masane's body is less censored, and reveals a bit more in the DVD version. Also, from this point on, her crotch and most of her body is covered up in the TV version, so I won't note this.

Also, one last thing. She has no nipples in neither version showing.

10. Cell block is cleaned up to remove the blood surrounding the area in the TV version. However, this is inconsistant sense the next shot shows the blood splattered on the cell bars.

11. When Masane walks out of her cell, there's a shot of her ass showing, that is replaced by a shot of the monster looking over to her in the TV version. Nothing is lost.

12. The ending shots of Masane are less covered up. Also, credits are rearranged and timed a bit differently.

13. Some of the animation is timed differently in the ending.

And... That's as far as I can tell censorship wise.



Great comparison! I'll be checking it out when I get home tonight. The best way to really compare them is to view them side-by-side. More than likely if something is off in the timing chances are it will be a cut or an additional footage. As with shows they always have more footage lying around that cannot be used for the broadcast. So technically there would be 2-almost complete similar versions.

But what about the shot after the ex-Con explodes in ep. 1? Is the stuff that 'WB Masane' lick off her blade still "milky-white" or is it "blood" colored now?

I always noticed that most scenes between the DVD release and the TV release have different resolution. One is the darker scenes -vs- the more clear shots on the DVD release. A friend of mine had thought that the Japanese releases on DVD were darker than what we got and we just lightened them up. But who knows if that's true or really has to do with the broadcast version -vs- the DVD version.

Of course when FUNimation finally releases it we're going to get the uncut version. But they need to release both. But I'm curious to know how they are going to get away with airing it on cable here? :hmm:

rpgman1
2006-07-28, 10:45
My guess is Witchblade will be the TV version if aired on Adult Swim while the DVD version will only be uncut. If they're going to do like what Naruto did, then they'll be a TV version and an uncut version (most unlikely unless its like DBZ).

MrProphet
2006-07-28, 10:58
But what about the shot after the ex-Con explodes in ep. 1? Is the stuff that 'WB Masane' lick off her blade still "milky-white" or is it "blood" colored now?

It's the same as before. Masane is a lot more naked in the DVD version, but it's not all that important, in my opinion. She was naked enough in the TV version already.

ChibiGoku
2006-07-28, 11:44
Great comparison! I'll be checking it out when I get home tonight. The best way to really compare them is to view them side-by-side. More than likely if something is off in the timing chances are it will be a cut or an additional footage.

This is exactly what I did. So this is how I noticed this.



I always noticed that most scenes between the DVD release and the TV release have different resolution. One is the darker scenes -vs- the more clear shots on the DVD release. A friend of mine had thought that the Japanese releases on DVD were darker than what we got and we just lightened them up. But who knows if that's true or really has to do with the broadcast version -vs- the DVD version.


Actually, that one particular scene at the beginning was MUCH darker than the rest of the episode on the tv version. So obviously that darkness was put there on purpose. If I would have tried to lighten up the video on the tv broadcast to match the level of the japanese dvd, it would have been too much.

chrno
2006-07-28, 12:09
It's the same as before. Masane is a lot more naked in the DVD version, but it's not all that important, in my opinion. She was naked enough in the TV version already.

I guess they want the "ero-ero" to stay in. :naughty: :naughty: After all with all the sexual overtones who wants to "really" bleed?

Hoo boy. :D :D :D
Yeah she was naked already so let's really put it in your face. But will it change our love for Masane? Nah.

xizro345
2006-07-28, 14:43
Very interesting read. Can't wait to see my copy 8P

chrno
2006-07-30, 23:29
After sitting down and watching both the DVD and TV versions both side-by-side I found out that I’m on crack and I have nothing better to do. :p I actually enjoyed doing this. I have to say that the TV and DVD version are similar but with moderate changes.

First off, I have to admit that 'Mamiko Noto' is a really soft spoken woman in person. It's amazing that she can get serious at times and let it all out when she acts. This is from the interview segment on the DVD.

To do this little experiment I used ‘WMP’ for one file and ‘MPC’ for another file (DVD version). So timing may be a little different based on the encoding and what someone else might get. Even if that is the case you’ll still get a sense of where those scenes can be located. TV version times are in blue and DVD times are in red. Stand alone times are from scenes that were either in the TV broadcast or DVD versions only and cannot be compared to any particular scene. But will be color coded to correspond with the versions they appear in.

Comparisons and analysis of TV broadcast -vs- DVD vol.1, episode 1:

-Opening narration is different as ChibGoku mentions. Similar but different, as the narration is done by 'Masane' (Mamiko Noto), but there is either additional or rearranged narration giving us her POV of the experience. So we'll need a translation for that. -DVD version

Aside from the 4:3 ratio for the TV and the 16:9 for DVD you see more of the scenes and what seems like longer lengths. But not necessarily. Not to mention clearer and crisper.

-OP sequence for both is first OP but DVD uses 2nd version OP (the one where 'Masane' is struggling to get through the plastic wall). But there are slight differences in the version. Some "cleaned up" and "altered" imagery. Examples as follows:

-'Masane' rearing back while casting her shadow on the wall. In some ways it's almost like you can see if she's wearing her regular clothes. Yet you can see the whole image of the shadow. Could reflect 'WB' form in contrast to her normal self. -DVD version

-Same shot but not as clear. You can barely tell if she was wearing regular clothes or in 'WB' form. But to be honest we really could care less. :p Plus, you can't see everything on screen. -TV version

-Shot of 'Masane' looking solem. Scene was "altered". Scene displays a different expression running longer than the TV OP. 'Masane' looking down at first but slowly looks up staring into screen. More body shown. Here you get a sense of her inner struggle. Clearer. -DVD version

-Aired version shows similar scene of 'Masane' looking up into the screen but lasts only a few seconds into the length of the song then fades to next scene. Plus, image was enlarged so you can't see as much of her body. -TV version

The interesting thing is that while these shots are slightly different they are still synched up to the music.

-Scene of 'WB artifact' falling against black background still pretty much the same.

-Scene showing 'Masane' lying on the floor with hands behind her back where the 'WB artifact' falls next to her is “altered”, as well as "cleaned up". Shot is longer in length. Basically, she's lying there covered in sweat beads. When the 'WB artifact’ falls and hits the floor it bounces up and flips overs in slow motion until its face down. This is all done while being in synch with the song and 'Masane's reaction. Also, ‘WB artifact’ glows, casting its red light on 'Masane' as well. -DVD version

-Aired version is not as "slick" or "detailed". Also, seems shorter but still in sync with the song. Art is now considered "average" when compared to the "altered version". 'WB artifact' just falls, hits the floor at a faster pace while scene fades to next scene and that’s it. -TV version

-Transformation sequence where 'WBMasane' unleashes the power causing the earth to rise up is the same in both versions. Only difference is that DVD version presents more "skin" and more of the scene. Because nothing is cut off.

-We can clearly see 'Reina' in her 'CB' form. Also, the shot where she strikes out with her blade and moves back is "altered" slightly as the shot does not revert to a "silhouette" like in the TV version. Again, scenes are "cleaned up". -DVD version

-'Masane' rubbing her butt cheeks with blood. Of course you can see it now on “skin” version. And the notorious "V-Blade". :naughty: -DVD version.

Everything else is the same toward the end of the OP. Just that you can see a little more from side to side. Again, the HUGE difference between hamburger meat and fillet mignon. :p :D :D

Here are some animation "FLUBS" I found in the TV version. Though not really flubs but more like animation checks. Hey they do this in films. Plus, I'm an animation major. Normally, I don't do this unless tempted. :D This is where it get’s silly. :P :D

Only if you want to and have seen ep. 1

-When 'Masane' awakes suddenly and collapses after 'Riko' screams her name on the boat, her body crumples into a heap. You can see where her buttocks were in the air when she falls over, but for a split second later they just seem to deflate. Like she has no bones. Scene corrected leaving her buttocks in the air and anatomy where it should be. I had wondered if 'Masane' was a contortionist. Hahaha! (0:03:08-:09 -vs- 0:03:00-:02)

-Coloring and shadows that were missing in some areas replaced and some scenes were "altered" and "cleaned up". -ie. 'Masane's legs were too skinny and missing shadows on her pant leg. Plus, shoes were smaller. Corrected by filling her out more and adding shadows. Also, objects that seemed out of place were redone corresponding with the placement of the characters.

-'Riko got similar treatment'. Girly legs too awkward. White on the bottom of her shoes was colored in the same color as her shoes. Pale pink. Corrected in DVD version, or was it?

These scenes took place during same time sequence.

-Market place scene. Where 'Masane' and 'Riko' are standing discussing where to meet should they get lost. Extra person in background removed from kiosk in DVD version. As he was slightly off in his positioning at the counter in TV version. (0:06:30 –vs- 0:06:19)

-Police scene where first death occurred. Area blocked with "Do not cross” police tape" stretching from one side of barrier to a “CONE”. Corrected, by having the tape stretch to both sides of the barrier. No cone. WTF??? :confused: Don't know why they didn't do that in the first place, since the same image was done in both versions. (0:06:40 –vs- 0:06:30)

-Shot where police are taking away the first X-CON. 'Segawa' is in the crowd with cell phone to ear. One of the onlookers gets a new "blue" jacket. In TV version he had a "white" one. X-CON's face changed to look more "vegged" out. In TV version makes him look like he was aware of his crime despite his expression previously. Teeth are gritted in that, "Doh-they're-taking-me-in", look. 0:7:55 -vs- 0:7:45

-'Masane's back hair is missing during the scene where she speaks with the Child Welfare counselor. No folks she didn’t tuck it in! Again scenes were "altered" and "cleaned up". (0:10:34 -vs- 0:10:26)

-Shot where 'Masane's mouth is open (where it looks like she's gritting her teeth, when counselor talks about Riko's welfare), changed to where mouth is closed to emphasize 'Masane's struggle with the decision. Also colorization in eyes darkened a bit to convey her feelings. In TV version they were left in their original pale brown state. The change makes this scene more sympathetic and natural. Also, this was probably a technical (color) issue. (0:10:52 -vs- 0:10:42)

-Another "altered" shot with the counselor. 'Masane's body turned more toward the counselor, eye-to-eye contact. Also, more concerned look on counselor's face as she explains the matters. Scene shows that 'Masane' is listening and desperate for a change in the decision.

TV version uses repeated frame from a previous scene of the counselor. No expression. Shot of 'Masane' looking down at the table. Shot conveys more guilt or 'Masane's thinking about the dust on the table. Another shot I liked, but hey what're you gonna do? (0:11:01 -vs- 0:10:51 )

-Again shot of 'Masane's mouth colored "white" as if showing teeth (11:12). "Altered version" darkens it in. Again eyes are darkened to look more natural. In a way the contrast works. With the mouth left "white" it made it look like Masane was more scared than shocked. Can’t tell which one I like better. :p Coloring it in conveys a different but also intended expression. The matter to sign 'Riko' away knocks her back into reality. Again small changes in scenes afterwards. (0:11:12 -vs- 0:11:02)

-Violently or non-violently?
When 'Masane' has to sign the paper her hands are shaking violently. Scene in DVD version has less violent shaking but still conveys her struggle and anger with the decision. I guess they thought she was going smack the counselor one. Of course that's what Wrex would have wanted. Hahahaha! :D :D (0:11:20 -vs- 0:11:11)

-Everything else is the same up to the fight with 'Masane' trying to break 'Riko' out of the counselor's car, except that the struggle with first cop while the car drives off is longer as 'Riko' looks on. TV version has her stopping at a point and remains static. (0:12:10 -vs- 0:12:01)

-Sequence of 'Masane' struggling with the cops "cleaned up". Couldn't tell if the cops were restraining or having fun. :twitch: Scenes afterward were "cleaned up".(0:12:23-:30)

-Car chase pretty much the same. When 'Masane' pulls the police car up to the counselor's car she looks at 'Riko' once and then eyes back to the road. DVD version shows 'Masane' checking (twice) back and forth between the counselor's car and the road while trying to keep pace. Again scenes afterward are slicked up. (0:12:52 -vs- 0:12:42)

-Oh this is funny! Shot of 'Masane' breaking neck and neck with counselor's car during chase on a main street. Same scenes but the one shot of counselor's face looks wicked in TV version while "altered" shot in DVD version shows her looking annoyedb but cautious. (0:13:03 -vs- 0:12:53)

-How do you like your Masane? Sprinkled with GLASS or without?
Car crash shows NO glass on Masane's head. Scene corrected in DVD version. I always wondered if that was possible. :p (0:13.31-vs- 0:13:21)

-Shot of counselor pulling into agency ‘Riko’ looks like something out of 'Bincho-tan'. Again shots "cleaned up" in DVD version. (0:13:41-vs- 0:13:13)

-Prison sequences pretty much the same except more visible now. Transformation sequence; "skin" version but more enhanced. Red outlines appear and glow slightly where armor forms. Kind of like what a cigarette looks like when it burns red and then the ash appears afterward. TV version does not show red outlines. Again scenes are "slicked up" (0:19:28-:35 -vs- 0:19:18-:25)

-Scene where 'WBMasane' knocks 'X-CON' outside her cell and into adjacent cell door, blood is missing from walls where cops were attacked. Scene corrected in DVD version. (19:42-vs- 0:19:33)

-Shot of ‘WBMasane’ leaving cell (side view mode) with blood on other cell door outside. DVD version shows extra footage of "butt cheeks" eye- view. Shot where 'X-CON' is speaking during that scene is removed. (0:19:47) His lines remain but are timed in (with "butt-cheeks" eye-view) to following shot where she looks at him bored by his banter in DVD version. Scenes are brighter and clearer, bits and pieces "cleaned up".(0:19:45-:52 -vs- 0:19:35-:42).

And to answer my question again, stuff that started out "milky-white" will stay "milky-white". :naughty: :naughty: Ero-Ero!

-Everything else is the same. Shot of tranq'd 'WBMasane' enhanced and improved. Eyes glow more yellow, shadows and lighting put in place. Again scenes "cleaned up". (0:21:00-:49 -vs- 0:20:50-021:40)

Nothing changed in the ED except "skin" version that's it. It’s the ED and it’s GREAT! :bow: :bow: :bow:

Most of the stuff that I’ve managed to pin-point are technical stuff. Mostly in-between frames. From the comparisons made, (between the TV and the DVD versions) while many of us complained about the animation looking off here and there, it seemed that it had to be done this way in order to get the production out. While one team was taking care of the "key" drawings (that remain unchanged) the other team had to fill in just to get the show on schedule. Leaving us these wonderful scenes. :p :rolleyes: With the show finishing its run and the DVDs being released over a period of months, this will give the studio a chance to go back and correct all the stuff that NEEDs correcting. Chances are they probably did the work and are finishing up to put them into the DVD releases.

I've noticed a lot of other changes most of which deal with colorization, lighting, shading, retouching, clarity, resolution etc, etc... I can honestly say that the DVD is a MAJOR and I do mean MAJOR improvement over the TV version. Though this will kind of make the TV version novel in a sense. As many of the scenes were downright laughable. But I doubt the studio will want to look at THOSE shots again. So more than likely the rest of the episodes are going to get upgrades. I couldn’t imagine them releasing those episodes “AS IS” on DVD. As I think back to the boat fight with 'WBMasane' and 'CBShiori' in ep. 7 and laugh. Still one of my all time faves. :D (0:16:37-:40)

Now all we need are some images to compare the two. Doesn’t have to be what I got, I just felt like writing this. Hope you’ll get a kick out it. :)

What I noticed in ep. 1 that I didn't notice before.
Only if you’ve watched ep. 1 and have been following speculations. Because many of the scenes in the TV version were so dark it was hard to tell what was going on. After sitting down and watching ep. 1 again in of the DVD version I was finally able to make a better analysis of what happened to 'Masane' 6 years ago.

The scene at the beginning where 'Masane' is contracted by the 'WB artifact' is clearly visible now. Whereas in TV version it is not due to the dark resolution. Who knows why? I think this might have been a slight case of censorship since it depicts a disaster.

The scenes also reveals where 'Masane' was at the time of the incident. This takes us forward to what was explained in ep. 14 when 'Takayama' took 'Masane' to the orphanage (where she lived 17 years ago) hoping that it would open a door to her past.

He mentions that 6 years ago there was an incident involving the residents there. The children, including 'Masane' were on a field trip that day. This basically places everyone right at the heart of the catastrophe caused by the 'WB artifact' when 'Reina' took it from Douji industries and ended up in the center of a power struggle between Douji and NsWF to possess and retrieve it. If you look at the shots closely in ep. 1, (and it's really hard to see) you'll notice it's ahighway underpass. 'Masane' and company were caught up in a terrible bus accident caused by the catastrophe. Only in ep. 14 do they show the children among the wreckage. Going back to ep. 1, considering the amount of destruction on the highway, there were possibly no survivors save 'Masane'. You also get to see the 'WB artifact' clearly now, as it reveals a more "active" and “organic” form than the metallic version that was under glass at Douji’s research lab. You see it emerge from the rubble and begin seeking out a suitable lifeform. If anything “living". You see the ‘WB artifact’ impaling 'Masane’s body and, wrapping her up in its “red” tendrils like a mummy while she struggles, reaching out trying to grab the last bit of “light” that she can see. As she feels that her last chance for survival is being snuffed out. Plus, you can see her face now where you couldn’t see it in the TV broadcast. Looking even closer, there is a shot of water rising in the background as a massive tidal wave approaches. If the 'WB artifact' had not contracted her during that time more than likely 'Masane' would have ended up dead. This scene was very dark in the broadcast, which made it easy to miss. Very interesting indeed. Yet at the same time it's also ironic in a sense when you think about it. 'Masane' is always talking about her bad luck yet, she was saved by “something” known to bring bad luck without any help. And again she questions this whole ordeal, "Why me? Why was I chosen?" Thus, questioning her own self worth as well.

So whatever happened after that would have also placed her close to finding 'Riko'. But again let's see how much more will be revealed if they feel that there is more worth revealing. Because I’m still trying to figure out the whole maternal pass-book deal.

rpgman1
2006-07-31, 00:47
Nicely done chrno. You've went into great detail about the differences between the TV broadcast and DVD version of episode 1. I'm not sure if anyone is going to fansub the DVD version since it's already licensed. If Witchblade will ever be aired on Adult Swim, it will be the TV version. As for the DVD version, it'll be released uncut and reedited by Funimation. Besides, they'll only sell the uncut DVD version since it's not DBZ (meaning releasing them in an edited version and an uncut & reedited version). Funimation doesn't have the finances to release two versions out on DVD. Full Metal Alchemist was successful on Adult Swim as the TV version and the DVD version sales were pretty good if slow to finish the series.

chrno
2006-07-31, 10:54
Thanks! :love:

Of course I added one little extra thing that I didn't include. Found it this morning. Plus, went back and corrected typos and reworded stuff. I'm done, for now until I find something else to change. But I enjoyed doing it.

In a way that does make sense. Unless they release the DVD version and then edit certain scenes (ie.- skin shots). I thought I had heard that they were going to release the uncut version on TV as well. And if that is true I had wondered how are they were going to pull that off when the Japanese version had to keep it censored up to a point on late night TV? But I'm curious to know how they will be handling it when it comes close to releasing it here.

As far as people not "___ing" it because it's licensed, well that never stopped groups before. If anything I expected it to happen once the first vol. appeared. But apparently people were curious, so curious in fact that I don't even know if the reason behind it was because they knew "something". And if there were requests for the first DVD then there will be requests for the others. Now that's a lot of money to shell out for R2s. Oh well.

As for me, I'll be looking forward to it coming stateside. I do want it as part of my collection. At least FUNimation should have no reason to screw up the title heading. I just hope that they treat it with justice. Of course I'll miss the TV broadcast. :p :( Now I'm even more curious to see another ep. so I can compare that)

Man I gotta go back and watch ep. 17, and 18 is right around the corner. Sheesh!

rpgman1
2006-07-31, 12:53
I know Trinity Blood will be aired of Adult Swim along with Bleach while Eureka 7 will be going on hiatus to finish recording the rest of the episodes, Witchblade might have a chance to be aired on Adult Swim this Fall or next year. If we're lucky, then Inuyasha might be replaced on the Wednesday 12:30am slot with Witchblade (most unlikely but Witchblade has fanservice galore so it might be better in that timeslot).

chrno
2006-07-31, 14:25
I know Trinity Blood will be aired of Adult Swim along with Bleach while Eureka 7 will be going on hiatus to finish recording the rest of the episodes, Witchblade might have a chance to be aired on Adult Swim this Fall or next year. If we're lucky, then Inuyasha might be replaced on the Wednesday 12:30am slot with Witchblade (most unlikely but Witchblade has fanservice galore so it might be better in that timeslot).

Word up! I'm with you on that. :D :cool:

But I would be curious to see what they do. If they manage to get it for the fall that would be one hell of a speedy airing. The next chance would be March sometime. I would go with Spring next year. Besides the show isn't done yet. We still got 8 more episodes to go. But if they want to try and get it on TV then they'll just have to take what they got. But I tell you it's strange having 2 separate releases. Might have always been the case in other cases I just may have not noticed. :hmm:

Once again I have to make corrections on the above "comparison" deal. But that's it. Found out that I had to get another file because the one I was using was corrupt. Found out scene that that I thought was removed, wasn't. Because the glitch appeared in RIGHT in that spot. But it's fixed and everything else is O.K.

outlaw97
2006-08-01, 14:02
Just started watching this a couple days ago, I hope the eps thus far have been able to craft a story to sustain the amount of ero-ero in the show!

For fans, this month's Megami summer special, which has lots of posters of characters in swimsuits, has one of Masane (I think), although the proportions are even more ridiculous - and this is coming from someone who is decidedly anti-loli :heh:

MrProphet
2006-08-01, 14:21
For fans, this month's Megami summer special, which has lots of posters of characters in swimsuits, has one of Masane (I think), although the proportions are even more ridiculous - and this is coming from someone who is decidedly anti-loli :heh:

At first I thought it was some silly h-doujin, because she looked so stupid. It's not even pretty, it's just nonsensical.

For those, who want to take a look: http://heiseidemocracy.net/2006/07/31/megami-magazine-vol-76-september-2006/

rpgman1
2006-08-02, 00:20
Oh my god! Why is Masane the only one that is so out-of-proportion? She has the biggest bust out of all the swimsuit pics! The others are pretty good, especially Haruhi from SHnY and Haruhi from Ouran (she's just flat-chested being a 14 year old and A-cup). Saber, Rin, and Sakura look very good in their summer kimonos.

chrno
2006-08-02, 09:55
Oh my god! Why is Masane the only one that is so out-of-proportion? She has the biggest bust out of all the swimsuit pics! The others are pretty good, especially Haruhi from SHnY and Haruhi from Ouran (she's just flat-chested being a 14 year old and A-cup). Saber, Rin, and Sakura look very good in their summer kimonos.

Yeah that pic is pretty over the top. It's also posted up on "danbooru" as well. Of course it's even larger than ever before. I knew it was coming after ep. 16. But this I one I didn't expect. A tan 'Masane' and a big mug of beer. Well, that is pretty much 'Masane' as she does love drinking beer. "She's a party animal!" It's not too bad a pic, but it's exaggerated. Did we really need this emphasis on "tan-lines" of the previous bathing suit? GAAAAH!! It's like, "Masane can you change into this for the camera?" At this point in time Riko is preparing the bat to give someone a serious ass-beating. Cause they're pushing it. :p

While not drawn by the same artist, I have faith in seeing something by Uno Makoto'. But again I wouldn't trust him either. Remember when dealing with large "BOOBS" it's hard to take them seriously. It's "fall-out central". :D :D :D :D :p Especially in anime.

Speaking of h-doujins I've only come across 2 for 'WB' though I'm sure they're more. Though I'm curious to see the one called 'Trip Dancer'. I've seen the cover so far. Nice artwork. You have to admit it's a fitting title. :p

Almost time for ep. 18. Did we forget about 17?

Guido
2006-08-02, 12:27
This one is mostly character and dialogue driven as the previous one.

I'm a bit uncomfortable for no Witchblade and/or Cloneblade action in this one, however, that some main cast members are preparing their ace cards sums up a good sign with flow the pace is at, therefore, the story is picking on suspense to deliver some surprising twists for the next episode.

Looks to be full of business politics intrigue, police drama, all family moments, and sci-fi existentialism.


1. The story goes on with more Masane-Riko family moments.
I might be just too paranoid, but still persisting with mother-daughter bonding on screen foretells to me Masane's inevitable demise at the end.

2. Inspector Niigata returns on intervening the cases with the increased wave of current murders.

3. Wado's now financing a side, secret project of his. Looks like his assistant was confered to become the test subject unwillingly.
Looks suspicious, but I have a hunch that Wado is up to his arms on the staff producing a male counterpart to the Witchblade.

4. The new CB sister gets substantious amount of time sparring with Maria on the ring. That face is just too cute IMO.:p

5. Possible or not but Father Furimizu gained access to Riko's current registry data profile.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5539/cbsisterdq5.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cbsisterdq5.jpg) http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9896/assistantvb1.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=assistantvb1.jpg)

rpgman1
2006-08-02, 13:09
Yeah that pic is pretty over the top. It's also posted up on "danbooru" as well. Of course it's even larger than ever before. I knew it was coming after ep. 16. But this I one I didn't expect. A tan 'Masane' and a big mug of beer. Well, that is pretty much 'Masane' as she does love drinking beer. "She's a party animal!" It's not too bad a pic, but it's exaggerated. Did we really need this emphasis on "tan-lines" of the previous bathing suit? GAAAAH!! It's like, "Masane can you change into this for the camera?" At this point in time Riko is preparing the bat to give someone a serious ass-beating. Cause they're pushing it. :p

While not drawn by the same artist, I have faith in seeing something by Uno Makoto'. But again I wouldn't trust him either. Remember when dealing with large "BOOBS" it's hard to take them seriously. It's "fall-out central". :D :D :D :D :p Especially in anime.

Speaking of h-doujins I've only come across 2 for 'WB' though I'm sure they're more. Though I'm curious to see the one called 'Trip Dancer'. I've seen the cover so far. Nice artwork. You have to admit it's a fitting title. :p

Almost time for ep. 18. Did we forget about 17?
I saw another doujin called "Inazuma Blade" by Inazuma of D.A.W. for Comic Market 70. It's got some pretty nice artwork because I have one from GSD and thought it was good and hilarious at the same time. By the way, D.A.W. is a circle comprised of 4 artists and Inazuma is one of them. The artist did depict self as a woman having bright ideas by starry eyes about drawing them. The others are either okay or good, but Inazuma is the best out of that circle.
Here is the page containing the cover and a pic: http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~daw/info.htm

Guido
2006-08-02, 14:52
The following set of screenshots mostly summarizes what unfolds in episode 18.

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/1079/witchbladeep18ry4.th.jpg (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchbladeep18ry4.jpg)

chrno
2006-08-02, 14:52
I saw another doujin called "Inazuma Blade" by Inazuma of D.A.W. for Comic Market 70. It's got some pretty nice artwork because I have one from GSD and thought it was good and hilarious at the same time. By the way, D.A.W. is a circle comprised of 4 artists and Inazuma is one of them. The artist did depict self as a woman having bright ideas by starry eyes about drawing them. The others are either okay or good, but Inazuma is the best out of that circle.
Here is the page containing the cover and a pic: http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~daw/info.htm

"Give me your X-T-C, with Masa-MUNE yo! Cause bras don't fit her as you know! Cause she's too damn big..."

Nice pic. He's got some other good stuff. Since he's doing "busty" then I guess
'Masane' has now become adopted. That's right folks get those ideas together after watching the show and get them out to the comic market.

Now my question is WTF, happened to 'Masane's beige pants? It's been blue jeans for 17 ep. straight! And I know she'll have em' on in ep. 18 too. :D :D

Thanks for the info. :)

MrProphet
2006-08-02, 22:13
I like the new girl. Down with Maria! 8)

xizro345
2006-08-03, 07:57
Finally I got my limited edition copy! Here are some pics. Unfortunately, I didn't have a digital cam so I had to use a crappy webcam to take shots, so bear with me 8P To avoid problems, it'll be on multiple posts

Ok, here's the wrapped DVD (just got out of the EMS package):

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/dvdstop.jpg

Back of the DVD cover:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/dvdsback.jpg

The cover can be removed, and you get the "standard" amaray for normal version + sketch booklet (called "Vol.1")

Here's the DVD front and back after removing the silver cover:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/dvdntop.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/dvdnback.jpg

Continued in next post 8P

xizro345
2006-08-03, 08:04
Ok, here's the overview after opening the cover, aside the ads there's a small booklet inside as well:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/overview.jpg

Here's a pic of such booklet, that contains a staff interview and two character "bio" (Masane and Riko):

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/booklet.jpg

Back to the sketches booklet, it has a very simple cover:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/sketch.jpg

THere are some character and background sketches inside, let's start with our favorite Witchblade user 8P

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/wmasane.jpg

And a setting sketch as well:


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/ship.jpg (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/zizza345/ship.jpg)

Ok that's all. Unfortunately I'll leave for holidays tomorrow with no net access so I won't really able to comment till I get back home in about 24 days, but I'll try to read this when I can. 8P

chrno
2006-08-03, 13:33
Cool xizro345! Thanks for the images!

They always know how to pack in those extra goodies. There's a little insert for 'Gonzo's upcoming movie 'Brave Story' Now the question is will we get this. Probably not. That case almost made me think that it was a CD case. If you didn't mention that there was a amaray DVD case in there I wouldn't have made the connection considering that some J-Pop DVDs come in CD cases.

We got 'WBMasane' this time, next stop vol. 2 with 'CBShiori' on the case. With a big blade between her legs. How does she do it? :p :naughty: I'm almost sure she was designed after a weasel. Or "kamaitachi" which is the term for the notorious crescent blade-bearing weasel creatures of Japanese folklore. Cause her design isn't anything bug-like. A fox was my first impression but I was wrong.

I'll be watching 17 again and catching 18, while watching ep. 2-3 (DVD version) something during the weekend. So I'll be doing another fun-filled comparison write-up. :p :)

Oh, and don't knock 'Maria' she's just a girl.

xizro345
2006-08-03, 14:22
As for the DVD itself the menus are well, not so good, especially since episode selections and chapter selections are separate (kinda odd, and I have a few JP DVDs).
The extras include an interview with Mamiko Noto, textless OP/ED, some GONZO trailers and the promo movie that aired before the series.

chrno
2006-08-03, 18:05
As for the DVD itself the menus are well, not so good, especially since episode selections and chapter selections are separate (kinda odd, and I have a few JP DVDs).
The extras include an interview with Mamiko Noto, textless OP/ED, some GONZO trailers and the promo movie that aired before the series.

Now that's interesting. I have a couple of import DVDs myself (Brigadoon - they're the only R2 DVDs I have aside from JP LDs), yet I never took the time to really look at the menus. Maybe I'll go back and take a look. Again thanks for that info.

Guido
2006-08-03, 20:17
The Fall of Takayama.

Seriously, I must commend and applaud this episode for the element twists that followed after a conspiracy plot within Douji.


What I basically understood is the following:

- Wado in secret kept on his financing of the Ultimate Blade project. The guinea-pig being as tested was his assistant.
Speculation: What I understand is that Wado's staff is making a hybrid that possess both traits of Neo-Gene and I-Weapon (X-CON), as well, hence the UltimateBlade.

- The hybrid Neo-Gene/I-Weapon was set on the loose and brutally broke into a civilian building, sucking dry all of the victims which happened to be woman.

- Inspector Nakata and his deputies searched the crime scene and found the remains of some bullet caskets. A thorough research analysis concluded that the bullets are commonly equipped by handguns of Douji officials. The discovery prompted Nakata a visit to Takayama but could not do much as lacking a warrant and sufficient evidence to link Douji's involvement with the grissly murder.

- The bomb exploded when an undercover tape was leaked into the public media, broadcasted across Tokyo. The video displayed what seems to be three Douji staff men picking up the remnants of the X-CON found at the prison break.
The horny X-CON that WMasane chopped off back in episode one.

- The news scandalized the public when informing about Douji likening covert business involving weapons, which was enough for an uproar to the high echelions at Douji.

- Massive protesters lined up at Douji to voice their rage for the killings that were result of Douji's weaponry. Inspector Nakata pays a second visit to Takayama, this time bringing a warrant to prosecute him.

- Another meeting of the Douji executive board, the committee cautiously advises Takayama to resign his post. Takayama complies only if Wado is made his successor to director to the I-Weapon department; on his part, Wado feels uneasy that Takayama remains stoic and composed for his deposition but relives some stress knowing he's (Takayama) out of the way.

- Takeyama issues a press conference to openly address the situation to the public masses in order to take responsibility onto him and saving face to the Douji company; also addresses his renounce from Douji.
He's escorted and taken to a patrol car, yet Takayama remains composed and not losing his temper.

- Of course, Masane and company watched the whole news incident. She went at Douji's to check the situation for herself and finds Segawa who escorts her to Takayama's office only to find Wado instead.
She's informed of the management change for the I-Weapons department, meaning from now she's receiving orders of Wado, her new employer.

- The news those not suit well with Masane and attempts to leave not counting with her services for Wado, however, Segawa stops her out cold reminding her about Rihoko's sake and security; Masane is forced to comply.

- The episode ends with Masane hugging Riko at home assuring her a false sense of security. Of course, Riko's no fool and senses that Masane is keeping secrets from her and feels an uneasiness regarding their current situation, if they'll continue to remain mother-daughter together.


Animation was not spectacular but good, as the character's faces were drawn properly stylized seen in several anime.

But boy, Wado packed a filthy punched and counterstruck at Takayama to have him kicked out, and as I predicted, Segawa changed sides but do so legally (not pulling any undercover strings) because he complies to the winning side or the one that holds the power.
Masane has now lots to worry about, since Takayama was hers and Riko's only insurance to get a stable and happy life. With him gone, they are now vulnerable and helpless against legal prosecution from both sides of Douji and NSWF respectively.

Definitely, Wado struck a deal with Nishida, and the outcome for this episode makes me believe that he's going to have a hand on having Riko delivered to NSWF.

BTW, Maria's personality suffered a 180 degree change on her personality since the last time we saw her all hell-psycho.

- She's now behaving like Reina. Callous, analytical, scientific, composed, but also open to her subordinates. The new CB sister introduced in the last episode blushed after listening to the words of support that Maria delivered her on person.

- Nishida informs to Father that Maria has fully matured into an adult, which pleases him. However, it seems that Nishida is not all well with Father.

chrno
2006-08-05, 18:13
Man on manicheviz,

Talk about trouble trouble trouble.Seems like things are picking up and there's only 8 more eps. to go.

-From the looks of that new neo-gene hybrid, yeah I can see it. If you notice the markings on the face. Most I-weapons/X-Cons don't have these markings. But the cloneblade bearers do. And of course from what I got out of ep. 17 I knew 'Wado's assistant would end up the candidate. Of course they had to grab him up before anymore damage was caused to 'Douji'.

-Seems 'Furimizu' is suffering from the "mommy" complex. This was what I made out from Tozawa's conversation with Masane. Seems to me he want to build the perfect woman. Hmm... and just after I finished watching 'The Ray', about a few weeks ago. As far as Nishida goes they seem to want this project to go through but she's not on the same page with 'Father' it seems but she'll do what he wants for now.

-Maria, you don't know what's going on in that head of hers. They think she's matured but it's really something else. Don't she's forgotten anything. And better yet since it was 'Father' that made the whole promise deal to her. And now she's beginning to think about this whole matter of what she is and her role. As to whether she likes it, more than likely she doesn't and chances are she's going to cause some very serious problems.

-Segawa, THAT RAT! But he may be even more a rat since he's been on the inside of things all along. And I have a feeling, that he did some underhand stuff. Again just because no one saw him do anything doesn't mean he didn't. I have a feeling that he let that video out. Here's how I figured he might be a culprit.

-He was the only person assigned under Takayama one this matter.
-He was the only one there on the scene when he had to pick up Masane. The shot only shows the Douji's clean-up crew. But yet the 'WB' material is under wraps.
-His demeanor to do everything to the best of his abilities. That's enough to throw someone off. Even the best double agents have to be convincing.
-His comment he made to Wado, "I only work for the strong". Again considering the matter with what 'Takayama is supposed to be doing concerning the 'WB', yet he was witholding info and showing compassion for Masane. Which in the world of corporate hounds is a sign of "weakness". The longer this goes on the more likely, it keeps the artifact out of Douji's hand. Since it's reappearance it's back to business.
-Again no one knew about this video feed. Wado didn't know about it. And neither did NsWF. Since it was supposed to be top secret it's easy to pin the "leak" on someone else. But who? And since this was all under Takayama's supervision it's going to fall into his lap.

-As for Masane her luck as she would have it is taking a turn for the worse as an "important" piece of her life has been removed to put something worse in. And this time she can't afford to get snappy. She's basically being "blackmailed" into doing what they want. Again while Riko is the strength that keeps 'Masane' going it's also a "weakness" in the fact that it can be exploited based on various issues.

My question is what's going to happen when the s*** hit's the fan? Will Riko find out the truth about Masane? And if Riko ends up getting delivered to 'NsWF' for the final showdown what is going to be the outcome?

I don't think we'll have seen the last of 'Takayama' yet. He may be resigned but he may have an ace up his sleeve. the bottom line is that both Douji and NsWF will have to go. I just hope it won't be a repeat of what happened 6 years ago. But they're pushing it.

Guido
2006-08-09, 12:31
This one will be memorable as it pulls out unpredictable twists that were not seen coming.


- Masane visits Takeyama who feels down but has never immersed himself in self-pity.

And under the rain that lucky bastard does....

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1592/kissqg9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kissqg9.jpg)

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/5624/dawnxo3.th.jpg (http://img313.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dawnxo3.jpg)
-Oh, my God! They did it!!? :uhoh: :cool:


- Maria literally transforms into....

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/2726/mariarikoym2.th.jpg (http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mariarikoym2.jpg)
the new mother of the Neo-Gene.....

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Reina Maria


and assumes control for good.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7508/deathxf7.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathxf7.jpg)

I did not see Maria's betrayal coming or at least not sooner. I thought Father would be the final boss at the end, having Masane confronting him.

But he's gone before episode 20 and seems forever, however, anime can be deceiving. Maria stabs him and falls over a pool of his own blood, but until they confirmed us that his body has been entirely disposed or destroyed, then likely are the chances Father will come back in a new body.


- WMasane confronts UltimateBlade Yagi and has the losing end, that is until UYagi pushes her literally beyond the edge.....

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/9366/uwitchbladejq8.th.jpg (http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uwitchbladejq8.jpg)
:love: :love: :love:

evolves into Ultimate Witchblade Masane a la quasi-Super Saiya-jin style.

dieseltrain
2006-08-09, 18:43
[QUOTE=Guido]This one will be memorable as it pulls out unpredictable twists that were not seen coming.


- Masane visits Takeyama who feels down but has never immersed himself in self-pity.

And under the rain that lucky bastard does....
[SPOILER]
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1592/kissqg9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kissqg9.jpg)

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/5624/dawnxo3.th.jpg (http://img313.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dawnxo3.jpg)
-Oh, my God! They did it!!? :uhoh: :cool:


I just hope u are just speculating, if not? oh well i feel bad for tozawa, i'm sure he liked masane too, did alot to help her, i was hoping masane and tozawa could hook up.

Guido
2006-08-10, 01:50
[QUOTE=Guido]This one will be memorable as it pulls out unpredictable twists that were not seen coming.


- Masane visits Takeyama who feels down but has never immersed himself in self-pity.

And under the rain that lucky bastard does....
[SPOILER]
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1592/kissqg9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kissqg9.jpg)

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/5624/dawnxo3.th.jpg (http://img313.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dawnxo3.jpg)
-Oh, my God! They did it!!? :uhoh: :cool:


I just hope u are just speculating, if not? oh well i feel bad for tozawa, i'm sure he liked masane too, did alot to help her, i was hoping masane and tozawa could hook up.

Fortunately for you, my interpretation is based on the pics posted at futaba; guesswork and speculation.

I haven't seen the episode yet...

Once I do, then I will post my thorough review for it, but as always I'm cautioning the readers at this thread my speculations have a 90% margin of inaccuracy due to my restricted comprehension of the Japanese language.

However, judging from the pics posted for episode 19 seems that Masane is developing some intimacy for Takeyama.

Actually, I find it conclusive for Riko admitting that she liked Takeyama for a father to Masane way back in episode 11.

Some kind of comunion, perhaps....

Maybe there's a possibility that Takeyama could be Riko's biological father and not Furimizu.

MrProphet
2006-08-10, 02:39
Heh-he. Guido was guessing, but the guess was pretty close. 8)

Here are some major points.

- Masane now works for Wado, who is very-very happy at having supplanted Takayama (to the point of screaming YATTA!).
- The later is drinking away his sorrow back home.
- Tozawa picks Masane up after work and drives her to a party at Mariko's, where everyone and Kyoko at drinkin.
- Drunk Masane talks a bit too much about Takayama, which makes everyone conviced that she has the hots for him.
- Masane denies this and has an argument with Riko. Kyoko convinces Masane to give Takayama a chance because Riko likes him.
- Masane goes over to Takayama and after some tense words, they kiss and sleep together.
- The morning after Yagi attacks Takayama and Masane changed to the Witchblade to fight Yagi.
- UltimateBlade Yagi pumps Masane full of bullets, which prompts the activation of the second Witchblade on Masane's other wrist.
- Masane turns into Witchblade V2 (red armor and white hair). She does indeed kill Yagi, but does not sustain her form as her wrist gem cracks.
- Maria and Aoi kill Father and his assistants, leaving the doctor (forgot her name) alive.

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Guido
2006-08-10, 08:36
To MrProphet, the name of that doctor is Nishida, and she's Wado's mysterious insider contact at NSWF.


Masane had another wrist gem in her left arm ?

But there's only one Witchblade, right?

Looks more like the Witchblade ugraded the armor to the second level and with it Masane also.

Do you think Riko's liking for Takayama is a child's fascination on him, or it hints at a possible connection that Riko instinctively reacts to but is consciously unawared of?


These are the screenshots for episode 19.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6183/screenshotep19fk2.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotep19fk2.jpg)

rpgman1
2006-08-10, 12:40
To MrProphet, the name of that doctor is Nishida, and she's Wado's mysterious insider contact at NSWF.


Masane had another wrist gem in her left arm ?

But there's only one Witchblade, right?

Looks more like the Witchblade ugraded the armor to the second level and with it Masane also.

Do you think Riko's liking for Takayama is a child's fascination on him, or it hints at a possible connection that Riko instinctively reacts to but is consciously unawared of?


I think it is a Cloneblade bracelet since it did crack and worked along with the Witchblade temporarily.

chrno
2006-08-10, 15:03
Ok, had a dream early this morning about 'Masane' and 'Takayama' "...". :naughty: Of course I turn on my laptop to watch ep. 19 and what do I see? "Nookie for a cookie!" :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: Gee, seems like I wasn't that far off. But considering how things are gearing up toward the finale there are a lot and I mean A LOT of things going on and very little time in the view of the characters. Some want the "gold" where others want "golden years".

Totally unexpected turnabout events. For those who have seen ep. 19

-'Wado' going YATTA shows that he's not the most mature man on the board. It shows in more ways than one due to his insecurity and jealousy of 'Takayama'. And from what we see it's still burning brightly. Even though 'Takayama' isn't there anymore his paranoia is still visible that 'Takayama' will somehow spoil his fun. Which allows him to make his next move so that it doesn't happen. Now I'm starting to wonder again about 'Segawa'.

-As for 'Takayama', I guess you can call that drinking away your sorrows. But to be honest if he is it's more about him not being able to protect 'Masane' as he did in the past. He could care less about having to step down from the company politics. Personally the way things are going I don't think he wanted to see this happen again. After what happened to 'Reina' he really doesn't want to see this happen to 'Masane'. It amazes me how he keeps his composure like he's leaving things to "chance" that they'll work themselves out. So he keeps this "stoic" attitude. I think that's one thing that he developed early in life. He sort of keeps his emotions in check. Unlike 'Wado' who cries all the time. The only time we've seen him show emotions was to 'Reina' and now 'Masane'.

-Everyone playing "matchmaker" for 'Masane". She's been working hard and she deserves happiness. 'Riko' sure thinks so. And she gets a new "pappy" in the process. Of course the truth always comes in the form of some heavy blushing and a BOOZED out brain. From what we have seen we know that she has a slight attraction to 'Takayama', but is still undecided considering how they keep butting heads. Yet she's always been eyeing him wondering...why. So after your being called "baka" by your daughter and a little "woman-to-woman" talk she realizes that she won't know until she takes that flight. And of course what better way to set things up is on a "rainy" night. Oh how we've seen that "set up" in just about every drama to date. :D :D Surely, if two people gotta thing for each other then there's a 99.9% chance one of them won't be leaving the same evening. Not to mention ahem...an excuse to get out of those wet clothes. :naughty: :naughty: Neither one of them knows how to approach the other on the subject. 'Masane' goes over there expecting him to react in some joyous manner about what happened on the news of him resigning and everyone was concerned, and she was worried. That she showed her support by running down there and confronting the protest line and she was worried. And now she's here to find out... if he likes "cheese and crackers". Did I mention that she was worried.? :D But this is 'Takayama' we're talking about. The man that doesn't show sensitive until the right time. So of course he comes off like "ass" in her book.

Do you know how hard it is to try to express stuff like that? SHEESH!
"I just happen to be in the neighborhood and I was wondering if you got any room in the "love rocket" for a "chesty" but attractive "klutz" like me?"

But that's quickly resolved as he lets her know in his own way that he doesn't want her to leave. He needs her, wants her. As the saying goes some things can't be expressed with words. Once again they have to start off "hot and bothered" in order to break the ice. When I mean "hot and bothered" I mean, they way they go at each other all the time. Considering, what he knows and feels for 'Masane' he doesn't want to see her life snuffed out. Y'SEE, THE WRITERS ACTUALLY TOOK THEIR TIME WRITING 'TAKAYAMA' INTO 'MASANE'S PANTS!!! AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL THING IT WAS!!! :love: :eyespin:

Now does this mean that 'Masane' has to get married now? If only 'Riko' knew. But hey she's smart I'm sure she knows about the "birds and the bees".

-Fun spoiled by Yagi, with the word 'Takayama' on his lips. No doubt sent by 'Wado'. Again this was a cool set up. If we didn't have it for 'Masane' to be there 'Takayama' would be dog meat. The effects of the 'UB' (site calls it UI) are extremely powerful that now 'Masane's 'WB has to revert to LVL. 2. This was TOTALLY unexpected and COOL!!! And they only modified 'WMasane's design just a bit that it still sticks to the original. Only this time she has two long blades, one on each arm.

Actually, I was wondering when we would see this again and I had a thought if there was a LVL 2 upgrade when 'Shiori' went nuts then the original should have it too. But of course it had to take a lot to pull it out. It wasn't going to sit there and take a pounding from a "poser". Of course 'Masane' is paying the price for it. And again 'Takayama' is no fool but 'Masane hides her feelings to keep everyone else from being worried.

'Takayama' is behind the root of all things.

He was involved with Douji that had relations with NsWF, who met and got to know 'Reina'. Who both probably had a fling that might have resulted in 'Rihoko's conception', I'm betting. Who later ends up in 'Masane's charge 6 years prior. Who gets poked by the WB artifact and ends up working for 'Takayama's 6 years later. To almost getting killed by 'Shiori', who was secretly in love with 'Reina'. Only for her to meet her end later. To constantly be badgered by Wado'. To crashing 'Wado's party. To shoot down 'Wado's crazy project. To be hated so much by 'Wado' that it causes intense insanity and paranoia for the man'. Causing 'Wado' to make an attempt on his life. Which happened. Which disrupts the quality time with 'Masane'. Which causes 'WMasane' to revert to LVL 2 where she now might meet her end as well. Again another one bites the dust.

Gee, and you thought 'Masane' had bad luck. While 'Takayma calls 'Wado the "gum that's under your shoe", 'Wado' feels the same way about Takayama. :D :D

-As for 'Maria' I knew something was coming but I DID NOT expect this. I guess she's realized what a "dominant" woman wants. And to get it you have to take the bull by the horns and ram it into the wall until it's neck breaks. She's not interested in being someone else. And she DOESN'T want to play "easy bake oven" to 'Father's "gene-filled toaster strudel". Maybe that was ok for 'Reina' and the other "sisters" but not this one. OH NO! The irony is that she's the new 'Reina'. Again we were expecting a fight with 'Reina' at one point but because of her actions she wasn't what you call a person with a thirst for power. But 'Maria' is. And, she IS spawned from 'Reina's genes. Considering how dangerous 'Maria' is now it's going to take everything 'WMasane's got to stop this madness.

Again thank you Guido, MrProphet for your summaries. Now go watch the episode! Gonna watch this ep. again tonight.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-10, 22:18
Well, my first post here and of course must be in this thread. I've been reading all the reviews about WB all this time but always I forget to register to post something :heh:.
Okay, going to the point. I just see ep 19 and what can I say, I think that is one of the best episodes from the all series.

About Masane and Takayama, it was something pretty obvious. But I've got a doubt, I was the only dirty girl in the world who thought that they slept together on ep 15?
About Maria and her changes, I was like O__O. I think that Furimizu's death was something that nobody could imagine, at least not till the very end of the story.
About Riko's attraction for Takayama, I think that isn't something casual, it must be something instictive. I'm pretty sure that he is her biological father.
Anyway, still remain 7 episodes and anything could happen. I prefer to be optimist and believe that it will have a "happy end"

Guido
2006-08-11, 00:11
Ok, had a dream early this morning about 'Masane' and 'Takayama' "...". :naughty: Of course I turn on my laptop to watch ep. 19 and what do I see? "Nookie for a cookie!" :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: Gee, seems like I wasn't that far off. But considering how things are gearing up toward the finale there are a lot and I mean A LOT of things going on and very little time in the view of the characters. Some want the "gold" where others want "golden years".

Totally unexpected turnabout events. For those who have seen ep. 19

-'Wado' going YATTA shows that he's not the most mature man on the board. It shows in more ways than one due to his insecurity and jealousy of 'Takayama'. And from what we see it's still burning brightly. Even though 'Takayama' isn't there anymore his paranoia is still visible that 'Takayama' will somehow spoil his fun. Which allows him to make his next move so that it doesn't happen. Now I'm starting to wonder again about 'Segawa'.

-As for 'Takayama', I guess you can call that drinking away your sorrows. But to be honest if he is it's more about him not being able to protect 'Masane' as he did in the past. He could care less about having to step down from the company politics. Personally the way things are going I don't think he wanted to see this happen again. After what happened to 'Reina' he really doesn't want to see this happen to 'Masane'. It amazes me how he keeps his composure like he's leaving things to "chance" that they'll work themselves out. So he keeps this "stoic" attitude. I think that's one thing that he developed early in life. He sort of keeps his emotions in check. Unlike 'Wado' who cries all the time. The only time we've seen him show emotions was to 'Reina' and now 'Masane'.

-Everyone playing "matchmaker" for 'Masane". She's been working hard and she deserves happiness. 'Riko' sure thinks so. And she gets a new "pappy" in the process. Of course the truth always comes in the form of some heavy blushing and a BOOZED out brain. From what we have seen we know that she has a slight attraction to 'Takayama', but is still undecided considering how they keep butting heads. Yet she's always been eyeing him wondering...why. So after your being called "baka" by your daughter and a little "woman-to-woman" talk she realizes that she won't know until she takes that flight. And of course what better way to set things up is on a "rainy" night. Oh how we've seen that "set up" in just about every drama to date. :D :D Surely, if two people gotta thing for each other then there's a 99.9% chance one of them won't be leaving the same evening. Not to mention ahem...an excuse to get out of those wet clothes. :naughty: :naughty: Neither one of them knows how to approach the other on the subject. 'Masane' goes over there expecting him to react in some joyous manner about what happened on the news of him resigning and everyone was concerned, and she was worried. That she showed her support by running down there and confronting the protest line and she was worried. And now she's here to find out... if he likes "cheese and crackers". Did I mention that she was worried.? :D But this is 'Takayama' we're talking about. The man that doesn't show sensitive until the right time. So of course he comes off like "ass" in her book.

Do you know how hard it is to try to express stuff like that? SHEESH!
"I just happen to be in the neighborhood and I was wondering if you got any room in the "love rocket" for a "chesty" but attractive "klutz" like me?"

But that's quickly resolved as he lets her know in his own way that he doesn't want her to leave. He needs her, wants her. As the saying goes some things can't be expressed with words. Once again they have to start off "hot and bothered" in order to break the ice. When I mean "hot and bothered" I mean, they way they go at each other all the time. Considering, what he knows and feels for 'Masane' he doesn't want to see her life snuffed out. Y'SEE, THE WRITERS ACTUALLY TOOK THEIR TIME WRITING 'TAKAYAMA' INTO 'MASANE'S PANTS!!! AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL THING IT WAS!!! :love: :eyespin:

Now does this mean that 'Masane' has to get married now? If only 'Riko' knew. But hey she's smart I'm sure she knows about the "birds and the bees".

-Fun spoiled by Yagi, with the word 'Takayama' on his lips. No doubt sent by 'Wado'. Again this was a cool set up. If we didn't have it for 'Masane' to be there 'Takayama' would be dog meat. The effects of the 'UB' (site calls it UI) are extremely powerful that now 'Masane's 'WB has to revert to LVL. 2. This was TOTALLY unexpected and COOL!!! And they only modified 'WMasane's design just a bit that it still sticks to the original. Only this time she has two long blades, one on each arm.

Actually, I was wondering when we would see this again and I had a thought if there was a LVL 2 upgrade when 'Shiori' went nuts then the original should have it too. But of course it had to take a lot to pull it out. It wasn't going to sit there and take a pounding from a "poser". Of course 'Masane' is paying the price for it. And again 'Takayama' is no fool but 'Masane hides her feelings to keep everyone else from being worried.

'Takayama' is behind the root of all things.

He was involved with Douji that had relations with NsWF, who met and got to know 'Reina'. Who both probably had a fling that might have resulted in 'Rihoko's conception', I'm betting. Who later ends up in 'Masane's charge 6 years prior. Who gets poked by the WB artifact and ends up working for 'Takayama's 6 years later. To almost getting killed by 'Shiori', who was secretly in love with 'Reina'. Only for her to meet her end later. To constantly be badgered by Wado'. To crashing 'Wado's party. To shoot down 'Wado's crazy project. To be hated so much by 'Wado' that it causes intense insanity and paranoia for the man'. Causing 'Wado' to make an attempt on his life. Which happened. Which disrupts the quality time with 'Masane'. Which causes 'WMasane' to revert to LVL 2 where she now might meet her end as well. Again another one bites the dust.

Gee, and you thought 'Masane' had bad luck. While 'Takayma calls 'Wado the "gum that's under your shoe", 'Wado' feels the same way about Takayama. :D :D

-As for 'Maria' I knew something was coming but I DID NOT expect this. I guess she's realized what a "dominant" woman wants. And to get it you have to take the bull by the horns and ram it into the wall until it's neck breaks. She's not interested in being someone else. And she DOESN'T want to play "easy bake oven" to 'Father's "gene-filled toaster strudel". Maybe that was ok for 'Reina' and the other "sisters" but not this one. OH NO! The irony is that she's the new 'Reina'. Again we were expecting a fight with 'Reina' at one point but because of her actions she wasn't what you call a person with a thirst for power. But 'Maria' is. And, she IS spawned from 'Reina's genes. Considering how dangerous 'Maria' is now it's going to take everything 'WMasane's got to stop this madness.

Again thank you Guido, MrProphet for your summaries. Now go watch the episode! Gonna watch this ep. again tonight.

:D :D :D
Dear sir, there are no words from me to describe such fine piece of documentary.

It was touching, heartwarming, cleverly deduced, and makes straight point on what's the sh** heading forward to.

I thank you very much, since you have now taken a tedious burden from my back. Once I see the episode, I won't be commenting about the plot but rather on the technical and narrative aspects themselves.

;) Grateful;)

chrno
2006-08-11, 13:29
Well, my first post here and of course must be in this thread. I've been reading all the reviews about WB all this time but always I forget to register to post something :heh:.
Okay, going to the point. I just see ep 19 and what can I say, I think that is one of the best episodes from the all series.

Welcome to the madness, muwahahaha!!

About Masane and Takayama, it was something pretty obvious. But I've got a doubt, I was the only dirty girl in the world who thought that they slept together on ep 15?
About Maria and her changes, I was like O__O. I think that Furimizu's death was something that nobody could imagine, at least not till the very end of the story.
About Riko's attraction for Takayama, I think that isn't something casual, it must be something instictive. I'm pretty sure that he is her biological father.
Anyway, still remain 7 episodes and anything could happen. I prefer to be optimist and believe that it will have a "happy end"

Nope you weren't the only dirty girl that thought they slept together. Personally, I kind of found it odd that people were thinking that. Hell, some are still thinking that. But that's ok. I mean ok, so the episode before that had the tender moments of 'Masane' breaking down and 'Takayama' giving her comfort. The bottom line is that as much as they butt heads both of them opened up on some things. And he was able to give her his support. So the best thing he could do is take her back to his place so she wouldn't be alone in a time of need. Not,

"omfgtheytookRikoandIamsoooupsetrightnowthatineedag oodshaggtogetoverit!!"

It could happen, and it does, but this would be in very bad taste. Do you really think 'Masane' was thinking about riding the "wild horse" after 'Riko' was just taken? And just because his shirt was open doesn't mean anything. Hey it's his house he can walk around "buck naked" and pass out drinks for all it matters. And besides if anything did happen, do you think she would have been counting her "mad loot" the next episode? Hahahaha! I laugh at this part all the time.

"I made a million yen easy! And all I had to do was sleep with my boss!"

Whoa, 'Masane's really ****ing her way to the top. :naughty: :naughty:

Though, I could question the whole deal with ep. 19 now. Did they or didn't they? Hmm... Two clumsy individuals on a rainy night, a messed up bed early in the morning...but wait I only see 'Masane's pants and shirt on the floor! Where the hell is 'Takayama's shirt and pants???? While I could fathom that he put his pants back so his "happy waggler" wasn't flapping around he should have been walking around with no shirt showing off that "manly" body of his. Or if he had to have his shirt on wear it open. As for 'Masane' well, we all know if a woman has to wear one of HIS shirts the next day, then they must've DOOD IT! OH, and they had morning coffee together. What a way to start a romantic morning <sigh> :love: :love: There ya go!

But hold on maybe he's not that kind of guy. Maybe it would be in bad taste to do it on the first date. We can make out but no "third base". He'll let her take the bed and he'll sleep on the couch. Since his closed shirt doesn't make it look like he ever left it. Thanks a lot animation team "D"! :D :D I hope by the time the DVD version comes around they do something that will give us an idea that something was up.

I must watch way too much TV. :p

I was thinking something else about 'Maria'. She reminds me of a rebel teen gone wrong. She's going to be the leader of a gang and she's taking new recruits. Don't believe me? Take a look at the 2nd ED. Surely, we might see the new "sisters" being headed by 'Maria'. Douji had their management change so did 'NsWF'. Out with tired-assed middle-age men and their crazy experimental fetishes and in with something "daddy" created. She changes hair color and hides a deadly persona that's going to take the world by storm and nothing's gonna stand in her way. [cue Transformers theme] As for 'Nishida', the reason why she was left alive is because she never really posed a threat to 'Maria' and also she's a scientist. She's important to the cause and 'Maria's no fool. In a way her "offing" 'Father' was to let her know in so many words, "that if the thought of betrayal enters your mind you WILL DIE!". 'Father' got the new age but not the way he expected. Looks like history is going to repeat itself and in more ways than one. And we all have 'Father' to blame for it. I miss 'Maria's old 3 colored hair and teen wear.

I would have loved to see a fight between 'Maria' and 'Nora'. But considering that 'Nora' lost to 'Reina' and 'Reina' barely held up against 'Maria' chances are the outcome could have been similar. It probably would have been a close fight. One of the things I noticed was the fighting abilities of the 4 bearers of NsWR. Only 3 were agressive fighters. 'Shiori', 'Nora', and 'Maria'. 'Reina' was never agressive by any means. More passive if anything. She took defensive by reading her opponents patterns. This allowed her to catch them off guard.

I want a happy ending too. Cause 'Devilman Lady' made me cry too damn much. And 'Masane's my new girl. Gee ya think I'm obsessed with a "Nipponization" of a American comic title of the same name? Nah... I doubt it.

Guido
2006-08-13, 09:42
Animation return to high standard and was very good to see the mess that the Lv.2 WitchBlade is capable to pull out.

Unfortunately, Yagi did not go down without leaving some cracks on Masane's armor, and that's the first blunt confirmation that Masane's not going to last for long.

She'll be heading toward the same destination as Shiori, Nora, and Reina.


The Ultimateblade acted more of a enhanced armor to Yagi's body, but it's possible to be bio-mechanical the design.

I did felt a slight empathy for Father pathetically writhing and clinging to the batch of samples.

What I understand is that those vials kept Father's genetic samples, but Nishida told him during his agony that they've been tampered which made Father go apeshit, that's until Maria delivers the final blow to end his misery and calling him pathetic.

So, I kiss good-bye my chances for seeing Father returning one more time. However, until there's a visual confirmation that his body was really disposed of, I'm keeping low hopes.

And what way to disturbingly end the episode after Maria pulls out her tenacious betrayal and spicing up the momentary twist with Nishida's wide-eyed insane face commenting that Maria's perfect.


With Maria's new change, I'm feeling frightened for Masane and Riko's welfare. If she's ready to cast off her shell, then Maria would set her eyes strictly business-like to retrieve the Witchblade.
However, if she's still clinging on some left-up, lingering grudge like Wado still does to Takayama, then Riko's in a present danger.

BTW, Maria's theme played when killing Father made the whole act much creepier. That particularly piece of score exudes a Tim Burton-esque aura within it; a psycho-gothic, jingle score.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-13, 17:56
Welcome to the madness, muwahahaha!!

Hehehehe thank you :D



Nope you weren't the only dirty girl that thought they slept together. Personally, I kind of found it odd that people were thinking that. Hell, some are still thinking that. But that's ok. I mean ok, so the episode before that had the tender moments of 'Masane' breaking down and 'Takayama' giving her comfort. The bottom line is that as much as they butt heads both of them opened up on some things. And he was able to give her his support. So the best thing he could do is take her back to his place so she wouldn't be alone in a time of need. Not,

"omfgtheytookRikoandIamsoooupsetrightnowthatineedag oodshaggtogetoverit!!"

It could happen, and it does, but this would be in very bad taste. Do you really think 'Masane' was thinking about riding the "wild horse" after 'Riko' was just taken? And just because his shirt was open doesn't mean anything. Hey it's his house he can walk around "buck naked" and pass out drinks for all it matters. And besides if anything did happen, do you think she would have been counting her "mad loot" the next episode? Hahahaha! I laugh at this part all the time.

"I made a million yen easy! And all I had to do was sleep with my boss!"

Whoa, 'Masane's really ****ing her way to the top. :naughty: :naughty:

Though, I could question the whole deal with ep. 19 now. Did they or didn't they? Hmm... Two clumsy individuals on a rainy night, a messed up bed early in the morning...but wait I only see 'Masane's pants and shirt on the floor! Where the hell is 'Takayama's shirt and pants???? While I could fathom that he put his pants back so his "happy waggler" wasn't flapping around he should have been walking around with no shirt showing off that "manly" body of his. Or if he had to have his shirt on wear it open. As for 'Masane' well, we all know if a woman has to wear one of HIS shirts the next day, then they must've DOOD IT! OH, and they had morning coffee together. What a way to start a romantic morning <sigh> :love: :love: There ya go!

But hold on maybe he's not that kind of guy. Maybe it would be in bad taste to do it on the first date. We can make out but no "third base". He'll let her take the bed and he'll sleep on the couch. Since his closed shirt doesn't make it look like he ever left it. Thanks a lot animation team "D"! :D :D I hope by the time the DVD version comes around they do something that will give us an idea that something was up.

I must watch way too much TV. :p

I was thinking something else about 'Maria'. She reminds me of a rebel teen gone wrong. She's going to be the leader of a gang and she's taking new recruits. Don't believe me? Take a look at the 2nd ED. Surely, we might see the new "sisters" being headed by 'Maria'. Douji had their management change so did 'NsWF'. Out with tired-assed middle-age men and their crazy experimental fetishes and in with something "daddy" created. She changes hair color and hides a deadly persona that's going to take the world by storm and nothing's gonna stand in her way. [cue Transformers theme] As for 'Nishida', the reason why she was left alive is because she never really posed a threat to 'Maria' and also she's a scientist. She's important to the cause and 'Maria's no fool. In a way her "offing" 'Father' was to let her know in so many words, "that if the thought of betrayal enters your mind you WILL DIE!". 'Father' got the new age but not the way he expected. Looks like history is going to repeat itself and in more ways than one. And we all have 'Father' to blame for it. I miss 'Maria's old 3 colored hair and teen wear.

I would have loved to see a fight between 'Maria' and 'Nora'. But considering that 'Nora' lost to 'Reina' and 'Reina' barely held up against 'Maria' chances are the outcome could have been similar. It probably would have been a close fight. One of the things I noticed was the fighting abilities of the 4 bearers of NsWR. Only 3 were agressive fighters. 'Shiori', 'Nora', and 'Maria'. 'Reina' was never agressive by any means. More passive if anything. She took defensive by reading her opponents patterns. This allowed her to catch them off guard.

I want a happy ending too. Cause 'Devilman Lady' made me cry too damn much. And 'Masane's my new girl. Gee ya think I'm obsessed with a "Nipponization" of a American comic title of the same name? Nah... I doubt it.


What made me think about episode 15 was the fact of Masane being putting her T - shirt in place when she was going out to the balcony. Judging for what happened in ep 14, like you say about that tender moment between them and both opening to each other, I think that if they did something on ep 15 it wasn't for the sake of just having fun. Masane was going through a very strong emotional moment not only because of Riko's situation but finding out about her past she can't remember. In that moment both of them found out that they were two lonely persons without family. And it's true that Takayama wanted to show her his support taking her to his home, but with all those emotions I think that is probably that something could really happened. Maybe the only way to share their solitude and touch their soulds were sharing a very intimate moment sleeping together. And of course it wasn't just for the sake of having sex for fun and forget their problems.
About ep 19 I don't have any doubts about that :D. But in both cases the writers did a great job. And about ep 15, maybe they did it with the explicit intention that the audience get the best meaning.

When Maria made her first appearence, I knew it that she would be a wild card and the key in some events of the story. But I never wonder that she would kill Reina and Furimizu.

Believe me that I cried like hell with "Devilman Lady" too :P. That's why I want a happy end with Takayama and Masane together rising Riko like a happy family.
And welcome to the club of people obsessed with tha japanese version of an american comic XD. I'm a big fan of the original comic book and I think that Gonzo has made a great job with this series.

chrno
2006-08-14, 13:29
Hehehehe thank you :D






What made me think about episode 15 was the fact of Masane being putting her T - shirt in place when she was going out to the balcony. Judging for what happened in ep 14, like you say about that tender moment between them and both opening to each other, I think that if they did something on ep 15 it wasn't for the sake of just having fun. Masane was going through a very strong emotional moment not only because of Riko's situation but finding out about her past she can't remember. In that moment both of them found out that they were two lonely persons without family. And it's true that Takayama wanted to show her his support taking her to his home, but with all those emotions I think that is probably that something could really happened. Maybe the only way to share their solitude and touch their soulds were sharing a very intimate moment sleeping together. And of course it wasn't just for the sake of having sex for fun and forget their problems.
About ep 19 I don't have any doubts about that :D. But in both cases the writers did a great job. And about ep 15, maybe they did it with the explicit intention that the audience get the best meaning.

When Maria made her first appearence, I knew it that she would be a wild card and the key in some events of the story. But I never wonder that she would kill Reina and Furimizu.

Y'know you make some really good-assed points that I didn't see before. But again that's why I did say "that it can happen". It's just that I might have not wanted to think about that happening just yet. Considering their "actions" in later episodes. But now that I think about the scene a little more I would not be at all be surprised. More than likely the writers wanted to leave it up to the viewers to decide. Hell, I have read stories and known people where stuff like this happens. No one can know what's going to happen or how they are going to handle a situation. When emotions run high like how it did for 'Masane', if there is even an ounce of chemistry between two individuals they're going jump each others bones like a couple of "horny rabbits". :naughty: And again it's not necessarily a bad thing. If that moment of sharing each other's warmth can ease the pain even a little then it's going to happen without so much as a second thought. It's that moment when reality has to be dropped for awhile. It'll still be there when you get back. Then you can come back to it with a somewhat different approach. Even though 'Masane' and 'Takayama' do butt heads at times dealing with that aspect of their lives is easy. Dealing with something that could turn out to be more is harder, and sometimes confusing if not frightening. But they have had "moments". And 'Masane' does have a "thing" for him. She flirted with him in ep. 6. Patted his drunken back and slept out in the cold with him in ep. 10. Eyed him while he rested from his slight hangover on her couch, and chatted with him on the rooftop in ep. 11. Got dragged out of her stupor, taken to the orphanage to both find out how lonely their lives really are, to sharing a close moment in ep. 14. To possibly tossing off the guilt ridden shackles of depression for some good old fashioned "monkey sex" in ep. 15. Hahahaha!!! To go through that would mean having to "trust" which she does. Then almost get herself beat up by the mob over him in ep. 18. But later on she's running around with all this pent up frustration and concern with everthing that's happening and then denying her feelings. Denying herself touching the one person for more than just a moment here and an moment there. Denying herself a possible happiness and future. Like the saying goes we never really appreciate those individuals in our lives until they're gone.

But if ep. 15 was the case then what would be the reason 'Masane' would be shocked by a kiss in ep. 19 where things really heated up? :)

Believe me that I cried like hell with "Devilman Lady" too :P. That's why I want a happy end with Takayama and Masane together rising Riko like a happy family.
And welcome to the club of people obsessed with tha japanese version of an american comic XD. I'm a big fan of the original comic book and I think that Gonzo has made a great job with this series.

I hope for a happy ending as well. But I have a slight feeling he might not make it. I had been thinking heavily about episode 19 now. And some of it made me think back to some elements in Wicked City. And since everyone is talking so much about 'Riko's genes and how much they want them. Once again 'Takayama' may be at the "root" of all things. I know this will sound strange but I'm just theorizing a possibility. Suppose his union with 'Masane's triggered the Lv2 form? And what if, 'Masane DOES survive toward the end and 'Takayama doesn't, suppose she ends up with his child? Considering what we know about 'Reina' her compatibility with the 'WB' artifact was high because of her pregnancy with 'Riko'. Yet what we know now that 'Reina' wasn't the "chosen" one. Yet 'Masane' was chosen and had a high compatibility. And as long as she held 'Riko' close things would remain as they were. But what if something else changes those odds?

Which brings us back to the fascination over 'Riko's genes. Not 'Reina's or 'Father's. And if it turns out that 'Takayama' is the father then he's got some pretty special genes. For all you know 'Maria' might end up kidnapping him for his genes you don't know. Since 'Father's are all f***ked up. Maria may be setting herself up to be the "queen" but not 'Furumizu's. And again we don't know how she's going to react to the whole 'Riko' deal. Then again she may end up being the one to have her brought there. Since she would be the "ace" to get what she wanted. 'Maria' has not forgotten.

Oh well. What's the story is this show really 24 or 26? They better hurry up and have s**t happening in a reasonable manner. Again thanks for the kind words 'Guido'. :love: Still thinking hard as usual. Again good summarization on that portion of the story.

rpgman1
2006-08-14, 23:21
According to the Funimation poster showing Witchblade, the series has only 24 episodes which is right up the alley with Fate/Stay Night. Five more episodes will probably show us who's alive and who's dead and the mystery surrounding the Witchblade.

Guido
2006-08-14, 23:36
According to the Funimation poster showing Witchblade, the series has only 24 episodes which is right up the alley with Fate/Stay Night. Five more episodes will probably show us who's alive and who's dead and the mystery surrounding the Witchblade.

And when I thought that the anime would last a bit longer than the live-action TV series, that consisted of two seasons having 12 episodes each.

masadate
2006-08-15, 00:17
To Guido:
Hello, could you please come up with a larger screenshot collage of Episode 19? thank You

chrno
2006-08-15, 10:59
Thanks on that note rpgman1. :)

That's funny I wonder why they said that it was 26 in the beginning. I guess they felt that they could sum everything up in 24. Man, 'BakuTen' was 24 too. So that means 6 DVDs for us. If 'FUNimation gets this ready for next year whenever I'll probably plop down the money to pick them up as they come out instead of waiting until they're finished. I'll see.

I guess considering what happened in ep. 19 things are going to start moving. And from the one shot they have up for ep. 20 pn 'hicbc' site I have a feeling 'Riko' is going to end up in the wrong hands. I was looking at the shot and I noticed that the floor has a very ornate pattern. Not to mention that she [Riko] doesn't look very happy at all. This could mean that she's been taken into someone's domain. As to who's is anyone's guess until 20 airs. Which will be late tomorrow our time -vs- their time which is the 25th hour.

wrex_japan
2006-08-15, 20:27
To Guido:
Hello, could you please come up with a larger screenshot collage of Episode 19? thank You

You can see screenshots and summary of ep. 19 (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=227) here. I've finally caught up with the episodes! But I don't like what things forbode for Masane with her Witchblade cracking... and I also don't like Nishida's interest in Riko.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-16, 10:23
Y'know you make some really good-assed points that I didn't see before. But again that's why I did say "that it can happen". It's just that I might have not wanted to think about that happening just yet. Considering their "actions" in later episodes. But now that I think about the scene a little more I would not be at all be surprised. More than likely the writers wanted to leave it up to the viewers to decide. Hell, I have read stories and known people where stuff like this happens. No one can know what's going to happen or how they are going to handle a situation. When emotions run high like how it did for 'Masane', if there is even an ounce of chemistry between two individuals they're going jump each others bones like a couple of "horny rabbits". :naughty: And again it's not necessarily a bad thing. If that moment of sharing each other's warmth can ease the pain even a little then it's going to happen without so much as a second thought. It's that moment when reality has to be dropped for awhile. It'll still be there when you get back. Then you can come back to it with a somewhat different approach. Even though 'Masane' and 'Takayama' do butt heads at times dealing with that aspect of their lives is easy. Dealing with something that could turn out to be more is harder, and sometimes confusing if not frightening. But they have had "moments". And 'Masane' does have a "thing" for him. She flirted with him in ep. 6. Patted his drunken back and slept out in the cold with him in ep. 10. Eyed him while he rested from his slight hangover on her couch, and chatted with him on the rooftop in ep. 11. Got dragged out of her stupor, taken to the orphanage to both find out how lonely their lives really are, to sharing a close moment in ep. 14. To possibly tossing off the guilt ridden shackles of depression for some good old fashioned "monkey sex" in ep. 15. Hahahaha!!! To go through that would mean having to "trust" which she does. Then almost get herself beat up by the mob over him in ep. 18. But later on she's running around with all this pent up frustration and concern with everthing that's happening and then denying her feelings. Denying herself touching the one person for more than just a moment here and an moment there. Denying herself a possible happiness and future. Like the saying goes we never really appreciate those individuals in our lives until they're gone.

But if ep. 15 was the case then what would be the reason 'Masane' would be shocked by a kiss in ep. 19 where things really heated up? :)

Mmmm I didn't see her shocked by the kiss, maybe surprised and she was kinda mad too. If they did it on ep 15, it wasn't with the real intention of start a relationship, it was to ease the pain she was going through. And then after that episode, things changed a lot for Masane, her priorities changed. She was focused on Riko, mainly knowing that Riko is the real chosen one for the WB. We can say that she didn't have time to think about herself, she didn't want it either. She was ready to sacrifice her own happiness in order to protect her daughter. That's why she didn't want to see Takayama again. But in ep 19, they show to each other that they really have something. They proved that they need each other and that they really want to be together. And now we can talk about a relationship and not only an affair lead by high and deep emotions of the moment.



I hope for a happy ending as well. But I have a slight feeling he might not make it. I had been thinking heavily about episode 19 now. And some of it made me think back to some elements in Wicked City. And since everyone is talking so much about 'Riko's genes and how much they want them. Once again 'Takayama' may be at the "root" of all things. I know this will sound strange but I'm just theorizing a possibility. Suppose his union with 'Masane's triggered the Lv2 form? And what if, 'Masane DOES survive toward the end and 'Takayama doesn't, suppose she ends up with his child? Considering what we know about 'Reina' her compatibility with the 'WB' artifact was high because of her pregnancy with 'Riko'. Yet what we know now that 'Reina' wasn't the "chosen" one. Yet 'Masane' was chosen and had a high compatibility. And as long as she held 'Riko' close things would remain as they were. But what if something else changes those odds?

You have a great and fascinanting point there. We know that all ways lead to Takayama and now knowing from his own mouth that he is Riko's father...Keeping in mind tha the WB only choose women to be its wearer, Takayama's genes must be powerful in some strange way or must be related to something more bigger. About Masane reaching Lv2 because her union with him, was something that crossed my mind too, and Masane bearing his child too. But the only difference is that I've got in my mind the happy end image with a very happy family :D.

So this series will be only 24 episodes instead 26? I'm eating my arms right now thinking what would happen in this last 5 episodes.
And wrex_japan you are my hero :D, thanks a lot for blogging ep 19. Now I've got the things more clearer.

Guido
2006-08-16, 12:58
So futaba posted the pics for this week's episode.

My brief synopsis, followed later with pics.

Finding out from Reiji (Takayama) that he's Riko's father in the previous episode, Masane sets up a date between Riko and him so as Reiji can finally get in touch with his daughter.
The meeting goes awkwardly and in some instances of morbid silence, because Reiji's not accustomed to fulfill the role of a parent but tries his very best at keeping a friendly attitude towards Riko.
Thankfully, Masane decides to step in to break the ice among the two of them, and the three of them spend the rest of the day as a real family.

Unfortunately, they are intercepted by a I-Weapon (not X-Con) on their way home, and Masane has no other choice to transform into her DualBlade Witchblade (her second Witchblade form) identity in front of Riko.

chrno
2006-08-16, 15:05
Mmmm I didn't see her shocked by the kiss, maybe surprised and she was kinda mad too. If they did it on ep 15, it wasn't with the real intention of start a relationship, it was to ease the pain she was going through. And then after that episode, things changed a lot for Masane, her priorities changed. She was focused on Riko, mainly knowing that Riko is the real chosen one for the WB. We can say that she didn't have time to think about herself, she didn't want it either. She was ready to sacrifice her own happiness in order to protect her daughter. That's why she didn't want to see Takayama again. But in ep 19, they show to each other that they really have something. They proved that they need each other and that they really want to be together. And now we can talk about a relationship and not only an affair lead by high and deep emotions of the moment.

Response in a spoiler tag:
Well, y'know I went back again and thought about it long and hard. And I was finally able to see the whole situation more clearly. That's why I mentioned what I was able to see based on your points. Which is why I wouldn't have been surprised. Again those two crack me up with their "emotions". Neither one of them is used to expressing themselves on such "matters". But hell, in a way they were starting off as a couple and not even realizing it. Hell, 'Masane' had to like him the way she complained about him. Hell, men ARE moody at times. "I don't want your sympathy!" Translates to "I don't want your sympathy but I DO want your company as soon as I can get the MAAAAAD OUT!" Then moving forward to ep. 19, I was able to think a little differently about that too. 'Takayama's now been removed from her life but not permanently. So now she tries to run away and even denies that she likes or misses him. Because he's out of sight she tries try to erase whatever signature of him was etched on her very soul. Yeah, if running around like a frustrated chicken with your head cut off isn't a clue than I don't know what is. :p And 'Riko's no dummy, there's no way she'd let a "catch" like that get away. So when she finally went to see him because there was so much negative tension in the air [Takayama's fault of course] she gave up easily because that's what she wanted to do. That was her excuse to bail out. So getting to the kiss, what I perceived as being shocked is really more along the lines of "cut the bullshit 'Masane' you can't deny your feelings any longer." Now that you've finally accepted this and you know where the "other" side stands you can come inside out of the rain and discuss matters, "bedroom style". After all we're all adults here. :p

Now someone did complain about that they didn't care for being spoon fed the whole messed up bed, 'Masane's top lying around and her wearing his shirt for the "morning after" deal. They felt like the writers were saying "Look, they REALLY did it!" Gee, have any ideas of what they COULD have done viewers? :p :rolleyes: Personally, it didn't bother me though it was pretty blatant. I was more concerned about the bed being 'Feng Shui'. :p While I could go for something a little more on the "intimate" side and NO I don't mean showing them "DO-ING IT". That's what "doujins" are for. :D :D But something extra to put the "kibosh" on the relationship. Then I can step back and say, "Now that was beautiful! This is what a drama is all about." Plus, fixing the whole deal of 'Takayama' sititing on the couch with his shirt closed like he never left it. :p :D :D Hahahaha! I don't get it, shirt open in ep. 15 and then closed in 19. If the staff feels that they could do more to this scene then PLEASE DO!! I'm begging you!! :bow: :bow: Maybe something will change come the DVD version. But I won't hold my breath. LOL!! :D :D

You have a great and fascinanting point there. We know that all ways lead to Takayama and now knowing from his own mouth that he is Riko's father...Keeping in mind tha the WB only choose women to be its wearer, Takayama's genes must be powerful in some strange way or must be related to something more bigger. About Masane reaching Lv2 because her union with him, was something that crossed my mind too, and Masane bearing his child too. But the only difference is that I've got in my mind the happy end image with a very happy family :D.

Thanks! You saw what I saw too to some extent? And that's not all. Thought of something else last night.

I'm wondering if the same genes were used in 'Maria' too. Since 'Nishida' had told 'Furumizu' that his genes were no longer being used. Hell, you could see her reactions in previous episodes. She was SOOO bored with his whole "gene" BS. As far as her mentioning a clone of him. If you really think about it, what good would it do? If his genetics are "piss-poor" then the clone would have similar results. As most know cloning while "not sure if it is a good thing" is a double-edged sword. He wanted something perfect. You clone perfection. Don't know what he wanted to be honest. I'm still trying to figure out his whole "trying to be reborn perfect" deal. We already know that 'Maria' is part 'Reina' but what's the other half? And if it turns out that it is 'Takayama's genes then you have to wonder how they got them. Keep in mind from what we got out of ep. 14 and 15 with 'Maria' finding out about her parentage. She and 'Riko' would be blood related. As well as "rivals" because they're still looking 'Riko's genetic coding. Since she's a possible candidate for the 'Witchblade'. I don't think that this would sit well with cool and crazy-assed 'Maria'. Since she's trying to acquire power my any means necessary.

So this series will be only 24 episodes instead 26? I'm eating my arms right now thinking what would happen in this last 5 episodes.
And wrex_japan you are my hero :D, thanks a lot for blogging ep 19. Now I've got the things more clearer.

Girl, you aren't the only one. I never thought I would be watching the days go by just to get to the next episode. I used to watch my paycheck like that. Now it's every 25th hour on Wednesdays . LOL!! :D :D Gonzo better wrap this up with a super happy ending. And again thanks to wrex_japan for blogging and Guido for keeping tabs on the airing. I won't be clicking NOTHIN' until I watch the ep. first.

Oh the name of the new weapon is called "UI-Weapon" this time. Don't ask. That's what it says on the preview summary for ep. 20 at the hicbc 'Witchblade' site.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-16, 19:15
Glad to see that I'm not alone in this madness. I'm still waiting to see ep 20 and I wont read any preview, I want to be surprised.
About that little holes, not only the doujinshis but fanfiction were made to fill up those little details :D. Since ep 15 I've got in my mind a little fic about WB XD. And about the happy end, I've got an idea for a fanart. Now I need time to put my ideas into paper.

chrno
2006-08-16, 20:26
Glad to see that I'm not alone in this madness. I'm still waiting to see ep 20 and I wont read any preview, I want to be surprised.
About that little holes, not only the doujinshis but fanfiction were made to fill up those little details :D. Since ep 15 I've got in my mind a little fic about WB XD. And about the happy end, I've got an idea for a fanart. Now I need time to put my ideas into paper.

Oh yeah!!! :p :heh: Forgot about that. Well, don't waste another second and start writing that down! :thinker: That's what this show needs is some fanfiction. Maybe that will happen the more people get into it when it's released here. I say "GANBARE," on your fanfic! I'd be interested in reading it. :) I recently read a good short one for 'Madlax' and it was pretty dead on with the characters. So I'd be curious to see what folks come up for with 'Witchblade'. :)

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-17, 14:28
OMG O_O I just watched ep 20!!!!

This episode became into my fav right after ep 19. It has its funny moments, mainly with Takayama spending time with Riko XD. Sweet moments, just seeing the three of them as a happy family, but I get shocked by the end. When Masane fainted, and Riko and Reiji sounding very desperate trying to wake her up and the last shot with the dead fish and hearing their voices, mainly Riko's. I almost started to cry :(. It was me or when that weapon was trying to take out the WB from Masane, the WB tried to reach Riko?

Hehehehe about the fanfics, I've got to finish a couple of them about RahXephon or my beta reader will kill me XD.

chrno
2006-08-17, 14:51
Here we are into another nail biting episode. One that starts out tugging at your heart strings and then you feel a sharp pain stabbing you in the back.

My impressions after watching ep. 20. While the ED theme to ‘Solty Rei’s ’Float~ Sora no Kanata de’ plays in the background. Gee, another ‘Gonzo’ flick, that (I may have give it another shot seeing as I didn’t care much for it the first time around. Though, I watched quite a bit) deals with finding a lost child. However I loved the ED. But for some reason it’s pulling on my heartstrings more than it did before. So of course it’s not going to help me write this as I’ll have to stop and grab a tissue. :sad: :sad: Hey I get worked up over stuff like this, plus a good tune will have me on my hands and knees kissing its feet like a “BEEOTCH”! :p :D :D

Another great and memorable episode that I managed to start my morning with.
So far what we’ve learned from the previous episode is that NsWF is now under new management. Gone is the way of ‘Father’ and ‘Maria’ has now inherited a bigger office. She learns quickly that with power comes the uncanny ability to sit at a large desk doing nothing but looking cool while planning her next big move. Oh and thinks, thinking is GOOD! :D While the creepy music plays in the background. NsWF is NOW a lonely sterile place. It feels even worse now than when ‘Furumizu’ was in charge. Hell, it was no better even with him. And the only thing that lights up the room is ‘Aoi’s so "kawaii~" "soft" and "fluffy" baby-chick face. As ‘Maria’s favorite it seems, she is now down with the order of things. She too now sports two ‘DB bracelets. As for Nishida, she’s now under new orders from Maria. And the look she gives ‘Maria’ in secret is one that doesn’t approve of this whole deal one bit. Hell, I guess working with ‘Father’ wasn’t so bad after all. The tension all around is rock solid and downright scary as things start building up toward history possibly repeating itself.

Meanwhile ‘Wado’ is going apeshit on the phone to ‘Nishida’ about how the ‘UB’ failed in it’s attempt of getting rid of ‘Takayama’. Of course she doesn’t understand how that could have been possible until she gets the video feed of Lv. 2 ‘Masane’ on her computer. Which shocks the f***ing hell out of her. ‘Wado’ could’ve been more shocked too if he wasn’t too busy bitching and being obsessed with killing ‘Takayama’. It just goes to show you how much off his rocker he really is. NsWF and Douji are really going to hell in a handbasket now. In the meantime they can enjoy some ‘Lv2 WBMasane’ GIFs on their computer screen before they go. :p Hmm, I guess all I-Weapons come with a built in camera.

As for the “not-so-happy couple”, they have now opened the door to future prospects, however there are obstacles to overcome before they can pass through completely. Reflecting back on the events from the previous night and that morning, they drive back in silence. Of course ‘Takayama’ breaks the ice this time. Because he’s good at that sort of thing when it comes to ‘Masane’. He’s REALLY concerned about her. And while she tries to brush it off like nothing is wrong he’s lets her know in so many words that he’s not a fool to the situation. Which brings them to talking about ‘Riko’. ‘Takayama’ agrees to meet with her. Which is music to ‘Masane’s ears. Back at ‘Mariko’s bar everyone is pleased to hear about the good news. Especially ‘Riko’. Even ‘Cho-san’ so moved about a “pappa’ for ‘Riko’. Though I wonder if he was thinking about something else since he’s crazy about ‘Masane’s HEALTHY exterior. ‘Tozawa’ seemed out it. Which makes you wonder if he’s kind of hurt by all this. Again it’s not like he didn’t have a thing for her. But they never really elaborated on it much. Of course I’m wondering what ‘Riko’ said to ‘Masane’ that got her blushing so much. Chances are it was probably about her staying out all night. DAMN that girl is C-A-T smart! What comes next is probably the most comical you’ll ever see ‘Takayama’. Truly a KODAK moments! :D

‘Masane’ sets it up a date where they’ll all hang out. Of course that’s what ‘Takayama’ thought as she only sends ‘Riko’ along first. Which makes for some very awkward but funny-assed moments. As ‘Takayama’ is at the mercy of handling this on his own. ‘Riko’ is overwhelmed by his “rugged-stone” presence upon their first greeting. You know the look I’m talking about. I’m like, this is way TOOO much man to handle with the ‘Riko’ charm. She’s going to have to work overtime and break out the “oni” club to bring this caveman home. :D :D Their day goes by in an eventful manner. But of course no matter how much ‘Riko’ enjoys the atmosphere she just can’t get a rise out ‘Takayama’. Until finally, back at the hotel where he was staying he manages to open up about how he’s not used to all this. And as usual ‘Riko’ seizes the moment and manages to continue breaking down the barrier surrounding him. Once again we see ‘Takayama’ doing something unrefined. Hahahaha!! :D :D

Meanwhile sneaking around and spying on the commotion is ‘Masane’ in her new “gangsta” get up. I guess she realized that her ‘Clark Kent’ disguise wasn’t cutting it. As she looks on and sees that things are starting to look good her cover gets blown. Thus the party begins. All 3 of them enjoy the rest of day together like a FAMILY. I never thought ‘Takayama’ could smile as much until now. HE WAS LITERALLY ENJOYING HIMSELF!!! And while he sits and laughs with ‘Riko’ ‘Masane’ looks on with a smile on her face that is truly moving. It’s an expression that conveys happiness but you can’t help but feel a hint of sadness there.

Evening comes and the day comes to a end with some dinner and some last minute souvenirs. As ‘Takayama’ and ‘Riko’ continue their bonding in the fish catching game. She catches 3. The 3 enjoy a peaceful ride back home and reflect on today’s little adventure with warmth in their hearts now. It is made clear now that this is what they want. To be a part of each other’s life. Things for them are changing for the better. However…

<stomach fluttering as I write this>

Their peace comes to an end very quickly as they encounter a new type of weapon. The ‘UI-Weapon’ has been dispatched and the target this time is EVERYONE!! The ‘WB’ reacts to this but ‘Masane’ resists changing for ‘Riko’s sake. Luckily, ‘Takayama’ keeps a firearm handy. But the decision of whether ‘Masane’ fights or not is quickly made as the ‘UI-Weapon’s breaks through the car’s hood and latches onto her. Thus, proceeding to PULL and I mean PULL out the ‘WB’s core gem. Which is a VERY BAD IDEA. Thus causing it to retaliate but not fully because she’s still resisting. Finally, ‘Masane’ says in so many words, “F*** IT!” And throws off the shackles and reverts AGAIN to Lvl 2. and trashes the bastard. No damage taken this time, but the armor continues to crack. However it’s still holding up and longer than the ‘CB’ bearers.

Now mind you I had wondered if there was ever going to be a moment that ‘Riko’ would learn the truth about her mom and how would she react. Would she accept ‘Masane’ this way? Well, it finally happened.

The truth has been revealed. Both stand in silence distances apart trying to make sense of all this. For what seemed like an eternity ‘Riko’ breaks the silence and runs to ‘Masane’. Embracing her she lets her know in so many words that no matter what the truth is now, you’re still my “mama”. You gotta love ‘Riko’. How could she not accept? With all that they’ve been through in the past 6 years of their lives, even with ‘Masane’ making bad choices (back to ep. 1) for her sake, and trying to hide this did you really think that she wouldn't accept ‘Masane’? The exterior may be different but it’s what’s inside that counts.

After hearing this ‘Masane’s heart is put at ease. She embraces ‘Riko’ in return. But unfortunately that tender moment is cut short as ‘Masane’ collapses on the road.

Meanwhile back at NsWF, ‘Maria’ feels the power of the ‘WB’ off in the distant night. She stands reaching toward the moonlight as she craves the “power” she’ll soon possess.

Just as things start looking up something happens to pull things back down. I would not have been surprised if ‘Wado’ dispatched this machine. Considering that this was no hybrid like ‘Yagi’ was. His madness has reached an all time high. And it’s just as he predicted, ‘Takayama’ is still haunting him. And what makes things worse is that by seeing ‘Masane’ at his side again means he’s losing ground. So this time it was a matter of “snuffing” them both out. Because at this point he really doesn’t need ‘Masane’ anymore either. Even if she is company property why keep her around if she's not going to cooporate? But we’ll take the ‘WB’ though. Hmmm…seems he didn’t get the memo either about trying to remove it. Well, you know what they say about crazy people like him? Hey’ll meet his own crazy end soon enough. As for ‘Masane’ time is running out, but yet she’s holding on. I’m starting to wonder based on her mentality, of feeling unworthy as a person, that if she does die she can go knowing that ‘Riko’ will be in good hands. Also, catch the symbolism with the goldfish lying on the dash board of the car. Surely, many have heard of that Japanese poem called 'Life of a fish'.

Phew, I’m done now. 'wrex_japan' and 'Guido' can handle the finer points. ;) Only 3 more episodes to go. Will there be a happy ending? :sad: :sad:


BGM: ’Clover’ + ‘Float ~ Sora no Kanata de’ [‘Solty Rei’], ’XTC’, ‘Ashita no te’ + ‘Spring, Summer, Fall’ [‘WITCHBLADE’] and various game music tunes -[b]’Advanced Variable Geo 2’, ‘Tron ni Kobun’, ‘Rockman Dash 2’, ‘Tail Concerto’, ’Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria’

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-17, 19:08
Here we are into another nail biting episode. One that starts out tugging at your heart strings and then you feel a sharp pain stabbing you in the back.

I felt in the same way :(



Of course I’m wondering what ‘Riko’ said to ‘Masane’ that got her blushing so much. Chances are it was probably about her staying out all night. DAMN that girl is C-A-T smart! What comes next is probably the most comical you’ll ever see ‘Takayama’. Truly a KODAK moments! :D

What Riko said to Masane is "But if I go with mama and Takayama san, I will be an obstacle, wouldn't I?"
Jeez trying to translate into english is kinda confused to me @_@



Also, catch the symbolism with the goldfish lying on the dash board of the car. Surely, many have heard of that Japanese poem called 'Life of a fish'.

That last scene with the fish was like a stab in my heart. And before Masane fainted, her last words to Takayama were "Take care of Riko". And was in that moment when I started to cry :(

Phew, I’m done now. 'wrex_japan' and 'Guido' can handle the finer points. ;) Only 3 more episodes to go. Will there be a happy ending? :sad: :sad:

Mmm still remain 4 episodes =x. Jeez now I'm thinking that the happy ending will only a what if in my fan art :sad:

chrno
2006-08-17, 22:27
I felt in the same way :(

What Riko said to Masane is "But if I go with mama and Takayama san, I will be an obstacle, wouldn't I?"
Jeez trying to translate into english is kinda confused to me @_@

If that's what you got then maybe it's along the lines of if she goes then she'd be getting in the way of their date. In other words this should be their [MxT] "alone time". But based on 'Masane's blushing they already had their share of "alone time" in more ways than one. :p


That last scene with the fish was like a stab in my heart. And before Masane fainted, her last words to Takayama were "Take care of Riko". And was in that moment when I started to cry :(

SH*T MAN!

Mmm still remain 4 episodes =x. Jeez now I'm thinking that the happy ending will only a what if in my fan art :sad:

I know it seems grim but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I have a hunch things could turn out right but not before a major tragedy. This whole thing reminds me of 'Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter'. But let's wait and see.

Oh, about the whole pants deal? It's not really a joke. It's more my observation on a little art matter. There was another drawing for 'Masane' wearing a different shirt, beige pants, with a belt and sandals. Mind you that other model sheet has not made an appearance. Maybe later.

BGM: Nothing. Sleeping and dreaming of a happy ending. Until then the official site's wallpaper will continue to grace my laptop and the bedtime pic from 'Megami' magazine will grace my computer at work until this show is over.

grss1982
2006-08-17, 23:35
About Masane's Fate (WARNING: very spoilerish).

STRONG WARNING: Very Very Very Very Very Spoilerish....
DAMMIT!!! :mad:
take my warning seriuosly.... :frustrated:
OK its ur life..... :rolleyes:
A post from http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=79498 cited Matt Hawkins as saying that:

“The story does take place in Top Cow continuity,” Hawkins said. “We worked really hard to make sure it fit, and it’s set in 2100 AD in Japan, and the lead character is Japanese.”

Hawkins credited the development team at Gonzo for being extremely easy to work with than some of the other companies that have held the property, noting that Top Cow provided Gonzo with an eight page document of dos and don’ts of Witchblade at the very start of production: no frontal nudity, she cannot be raped or killed…while virtually anything and everything else was allowed. As Hawkins noted, Gonzo has creative freedom to tell the best stories they can.

:heh: So this means some of us can rejoice (HINT: a happy ending at least). If Gonzo sticks to that agreement. :twitch: :eyespin:

Guido
2006-08-18, 00:38
About Masane's Fate (WARNING: very spoilerish).

STRONG WARNING: Very Very Very Very Very Spoilerish....
DAMMIT!!! :mad:
take my warning seriuosly.... :frustrated:
OK its ur life..... :rolleyes:
A post from http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=79498 cited Matt Hawkins as saying that:



:heh: So this means some of us can rejoice (HINT: a happy ending at least). If Gonzo sticks to that agreement. :twitch: :eyespin:




Then, it establishes Masane's will to change her destiny for Riko's sake. So, what was looking grim as the storm was brewing will now have a bright ending. However, the question is which side will be sunny? and which side will be cloudy?

Let's say Masane survives, but either NSWF or Douji or simply a mean play of some invisible force would toll on her a painful cost: Takayama's loss.

I remind you all that he nearly had a close shave two times:
1. In episode 7 when a demented CB Shiori nearly forced her way on him.
2. In the previous episode when he almost got killed by Yagi hadn't Masane brushed him off the way.

Also, his death has been foretold since the death of Reina at episode 15.
At her deathbed Reina told him she would be waiting for him.

As he has become attached to Masane, Reiji has been opening up himself on her confessing and disclosing the issues of his lonely childhood.
For me that's pretty much an indicator that death will want to claim him, as he started in the show as the cold, business-interested entrepreneur automatically bent on the Witchblade; not speaking volumes of who he is.

chrno
2006-08-18, 11:39
About Masane's Fate (WARNING: very spoilerish).

STRONG WARNING: Very Very Very Very Very Spoilerish....
DAMMIT!!! :mad:
take my warning seriuosly.... :frustrated:
OK its ur life..... :rolleyes:
A post from http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=79498 cited Matt Hawkins as saying that:



:heh: So this means some of us can rejoice (HINT: a happy ending at least). If Gonzo sticks to that agreement. :twitch: :eyespin:




I WILL NOT HEED YOUR WARNING because:

After sitting back and analyzing the show's plotline and making my own speculations I have already theorized that it won't end on a bad note. Most of the clues are in the first ED. This is 'Masane' and 'Riko's show. Fans would have a fit if they killed her off.
But at the same time you've confirmed more based on the "clause". Which also gives us a little more insight into 'TC's little project. And with that I thank you. :bow: :bow: The article was funny as all hell on the "dos" and "don'ts". I guess they knew those crazy Japanese couldn't resist with their wild "fetishes". :p :p :D :D Especially, 'Gonzo'. Hell, I don't understand what they meant by frontal nudity. She's naked enough! Maybe they were referring to 'Cutey Honey' type transformations. Wow I answered my own question. :p But hell, they still got away with the "V-blade".

In response to Guido:

You make some interesting points. I had forgotten about that whole deal with 'Reina'. And with all of the events that have happened 'Takayama' has been at the center of it. If you sum up all the elements from early in the show to now you'll see a pattern. Chances are he may not survive. In order for things to change a sacrifice will have to be made. He may very well be that sacrifice in exchange for 'Masane' and 'Riko'. It almost seems like the 'WB' wants him. Notice that the 'WB' only chose to be in the hands of those that would connect back to him. And again while it's been believed that 'Riko' could be the next successor even that becomes questionable. What is it that the 'WB' seeks? Thinking back to 'Shiori' now why was she so obsessed with 'Takayama'? Because the 'CB' are copies of the "original" could it be that whatever was in the consciousness of the 'WB' passed over to the 'CB's as well? Either he'll survive to live a happy life filling the "empty" space with 'Masane' and 'Riko'. Or he'll die giving up his life in exchange for 'Masane'. And possibly leaving behind "another" part of himself that would fill the space better than he could. Then he would be joining 'Reina'. After all they ARE 'Riko's parents.

I'm counting the episodes the end.

Guido
2006-08-18, 12:15
Phew, I’m done now. 'wrex_japan' and 'Guido' can handle the finer points. ;) Only 3 more episodes to go. Will there be a happy ending? :sad: :sad:

Mmm still remain 4 episodes =x. Jeez now I'm thinking that the happy ending will only a what if in my fan art :sad:

God, please no! Not another Black Cat ending.:frustrated:

I will be incensed if they don't cover the remaining plotlines and cram everything together into the last episode, and worse a rushed final episode that would not be giving a logical end to the antagonists and the protagonists.

Are you sure there will be 23 episodes? Not 24?

chrno
2006-08-18, 12:25
God, please no! Not another Black Cat ending.:frustrated:

I will be incensed if they don't cover the remaining plotlines and cram everything together into the last episode, and worse a rushed final episode that would not be giving a logical end to the antagonists and the protagonists.

Are you sure there will be 23 episodes? Not 24?

That's what rpgman1 has been saying. But I'm still wondering about that myself. One minute it was supposed to be 26 but now it's 24. I wonder why. Hopefully by 21 they'll have some more meat. Then that'll leave 3. Y'think there is an error there somewhere? The article mentions 26. But then again looking at the info. mentioned that event took place awhile back I think. :hmm:

rpgman1
2006-08-18, 14:38
I seen the Funimation poster along with Top Cow Productions saying each episode last at least 22 minutes and there are 24 episodes total. Unless Gonzo decides to put more episodes to fill in the details about the origin of the Witchblade and its possessors, its likely will see the ending of of this story.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-18, 22:36
After sitting back and analyzing the show's plotline and making my own speculations I have already theorized that it won't end on a bad note. Most of the clues are in the first ED. This is 'Masane' and 'Riko's show. Fans would have a fit if they killed her off.
But at the same time you've confirmed more based on the "clause". Which also gives us a little more insight into 'TC's little project. And with that I thank you. :bow: :bow: The article was funny as all hell on the "dos" and "don'ts". I guess they knew those crazy Japanese couldn't resist with their wild "fetishes". :p :p :D :D Especially, 'Gonzo'. Hell, I don't understand what they meant by frontal nudity. She's naked enough! Maybe they were referring to 'Cutey Honey' type transformations. Wow I answered my own question. :p But hell, they still got away with the "V-blade".

In response to Guido:

You make some interesting points. I had forgotten about that whole deal with 'Reina'. And with all of the events that have happened 'Takayama' has been at the center of it. If you sum up all the elements from early in the show to now you'll see a pattern. Chances are he may not survive. In order for things to change a sacrifice will have to be made. He may very well be that sacrifice in exchange for 'Masane' and 'Riko'. It almost seems like the 'WB' wants him. Notice that the 'WB' only chose to be in the hands of those that would connect back to him. And again while it's been believed that 'Riko' could be the next successor even that becomes questionable. What is it that the 'WB' seeks? Thinking back to 'Shiori' now why was she so obsessed with 'Takayama'? Because the 'CB' are copies of the "original" could it be that whatever was in the consciousness of the 'WB' passed over to the 'CB's as well? Either he'll survive to live a happy life filling the "empty" space with 'Masane' and 'Riko'. Or he'll die giving up his life in exchange for 'Masane'. And possibly leaving behind "another" part of himself that would fill the space better than he could. Then he would be joining 'Reina'. After all they ARE 'Riko's parents.

I'm counting the episodes the end.


Hehehehehehe today I was listening the first ED in my mp3 player and I was remembering the animation sequence and I was thinking the same about the hints. We see Masane transformed into WB hugging Riko. So as you say, this show is basically about them.
I was discussing with a friend about a possible "sad ending" and we arrived to the conclusion that if someone has to die, will be Takayama :(. Even so I'm still crossing my fingers for a happy end. But in case he would die, I'm pretty sure that she would get pregnant. Is something that used to happen in a lot of animes XD.

I'm counting too, and I know that when this seried end I'm going to miss it a lot!!

chrno
2006-08-19, 17:23
Hehehehehehe today I was listening the first ED in my mp3 player and I was remembering the animation sequence and I was thinking the same about the hints. We see Masane transformed into WB hugging Riko. So as you say, this show is basically about them.
I was discussing with a friend about a possible "sad ending" and we arrived to the conclusion that if someone has to die, will be Takayama :(. Even so I'm still crossing my fingers for a happy end. But in case he would die, I'm pretty sure that she would get pregnant. Is something that used to happen in a lot of animes XD.

I'm counting too, and I know that when this seried end I'm going to miss it a lot!!

Oh same here! I want to see a happy ending. So I hope they can pull it out and make it work for the last 4 episodes. :( I think someone mentioned this may have been you wrex_japan, about the show taking a week off and resuming the following week. So no ep. 21 for this coming week. Which is funny because I always hang out near 'hicbc's site to keep track of the countdown. On the section for 'Witchblade' and the cbc 'Witchblade' site they always have one clip up for the coming episode. Episode 20 was a shot of 'Riko' with her head looking down. Of course we know why. 'Takayama's mug is like a "gorilla' Hahahaha!! Once the episode airs they put the shot for the next ep. while updating the the official site with shots from the previous ep. They had the shot up for ep. 21 but then they took it down. So I guess they'll put it back up once the ep. is confirmed for next week.

There are two links one for the official site and one for the (official) cbc 'Witchblade' site. The official site seems to be keeping up with posting the images for each episode. There was a point where they would lag for a couple of days. The only thing they haven't updated is the character section. It took a while for them add the extra characters. CBC's site had their character section updated quickly. The official site had to get around to adding the rest. The only people that haven't made it in is 'Maria', 'Aoi', 'Wado' and a few other sub-characters. I guess they'll add the rest when the series is over. They probably don't want to give away too much.

I do like the 'Lvl 2' design. As it still sticks to the old design. Too bad that between the last 2 episodes we really don't a full view of it from top to bottom. Hair is longer and shaggier than before with these little tufts of hair on the top that look like "ookami" mimi. Not that it wasn't long before. And the "ahoge" keeps getting longer and longer. :D :D

On the reading front, I'd be curious to take a look at that 'WB' manga that's coming here. After reading the article I'm curious to see how this upcoming artist handles the art for this next installment.

On the doujin front I've had the chance of coming across 2 'h-doujins' for 'WB' though I'm sure there are more. One graced with "goofy" crude art of 'Masane X Tozawa'. Kamisama has blessed him well, but truth be told her loves 'Riko' the best. So 'Masane' just park that "money-maker" over here cause 'Riko's gonna show you what mother/daughter bonding is all about. :naughty:5x :D :D <cough-cough-cough> Hahahahaha!! Hoo boy! The other a 'Shiori' only feature called 'Witchblabon: B-103'. Well, 'Masane' is featured in the background on the cover. Though she's a little upset she's not in the book. I guess it doesn't pay to have a "B-98" as opposed to a "B-103". With opening presentation, showing a bag of dust and the rest 'Shiori getting it on with the faceless men. I guess being a 'CB' bearer gives you staying power. Oh well. There are 2 more doujins I'm waiting to check out one by INAZUMABLADE' and the other by 'Type-G' called 'Trip Dancer'. Which is finally on sale. Really good artwork too for the cover and samples I saw. His little installment takes place during ep. 7. Where 'Sagawa' proves that he can do more than provide <cough-cough-cough> er... medical attention. One Japanese blogger reviewed the book all he could say was "boobs, boobs, boobs!!" :D :D Hmm, do you think he was pleased with his purchase? :p Now, if we can just have one for 'Masane' X 'Takayama' that would be great! :p But something sensible. ;)

rpgman1
2006-08-19, 19:49
On the doujin front I've had the chance of coming across 2 'h-doujins' for 'WB' though I'm sure there are more. One graced with "goofy" crude art of 'Masane X Tozawa'. Kamisama has blessed him well, but truth be told her loves 'Riko' the best. So 'Masane' just park that "money-maker" over here cause 'Riko's gonna show you what mother/daughter bonding is all about. :naughty:5x :D :D <cough-cough-cough> Hahahahaha!! Hoo boy! The other a 'Shiori' only feature called 'Witchblabon: B-103'. Well, 'Masane' is featured in the background on the cover. Though she's a little upset she's not in the book. I guess it doesn't pay to have a "B-98" as opposed to a "B-103". With opening presentation, showing a bag of dust and the rest 'Shiori getting it on with the faceless men. I guess being a 'CB' bearer gives you staying power. Oh well. There are 2 more doujins I'm waiting to check out one by INAZUMABLADE' and the other by 'Type-G' called 'Trip Dancer'. Which is finally on sale. Really good artwork too for the cover and samples I saw. His little installment takes place during ep. 7. Where 'Sagawa' proves that he can do more than provide <cough-cough-cough> er... medical attention. One Japanese blogger reviewed the book all he could say was "boobs, boobs, boobs!!" :D :D Hmm, do you think he was pleased with his purchase? :p Now, if we can just have one for 'Masane' X 'Takayama' that would be great! :p But something sensible. ;)
You're looking forward to those doujins as well? Same here. I want to see Inazuma Blade by Inazuma of D.A.W. and Trip Dancer. Chou would be dying to get those copies and proud that his otaku fellows also get them as well:heh: Have to wait next year to see how the English dubbed version of Witchblade fares on Adult Swim. I was shocked that Crayon Shin-chan would appear but like Case Closed it's going down big time:(

wrex_japan
2006-08-20, 09:25
Here we are into another nail biting episode. One that starts out tugging at your heart strings and then you feel a sharp pain stabbing you in the back.

My impressions after watching ep. 20. While the ED theme to ‘Solty Rei’s ’Float~ Sora no Kanata de’ plays in the background. Gee, another ‘Gonzo’ flick, that (I may have give it another shot seeing as I didn’t care much for it the first time around. Though, I watched quite a bit) deals with finding a lost child. However I loved the ED. But for some reason it’s pulling on my heartstrings more than it did before. So of course it’s not going to help me write this as I’ll have to stop and grab a tissue. :sad: :sad: Hey I get worked up over stuff like this, plus a good tune will have me on my hands and knees kissing its feet like a “BEEOTCH”! :p :D :D

Another great and memorable episode that I managed to start my morning with.
So far what we’ve learned from the previous episode is that NsWF is now under new management. Gone is the way of ‘Father’ and ‘Maria’ has now inherited a bigger office. She learns quickly that with power comes the uncanny ability to sit at a large desk doing nothing but looking cool while planning her next big move. Oh and thinks, thinking is GOOD! :D While the creepy music plays in the background. NsWF is NOW a lonely sterile place. It feels even worse now than when ‘Furumizu’ was in charge. Hell, it was no better even with him. And the only thing that lights up the room is ‘Aoi’s so "kawaii~" "soft" and "fluffy" baby-chick face. As ‘Maria’s favorite it seems, she is now down with the order of things. She too now sports two ‘DB bracelets. As for Nishida, she’s now under new orders from Maria. And the look she gives ‘Maria’ in secret is one that doesn’t approve of this whole deal one bit. Hell, I guess working with ‘Father’ wasn’t so bad after all. The tension all around is rock solid and downright scary as things start building up toward history possibly repeating itself.

Meanwhile ‘Wado’ is going apeshit on the phone to ‘Nishida’ about how the ‘UB’ failed in it’s attempt of getting rid of ‘Takayama’. Of course she doesn’t understand how that could have been possible until she gets the video feed of Lv. 2 ‘Masane’ on her computer. Which shocks the f***ing hell out of her. ‘Wado’ could’ve been more shocked too if he wasn’t too busy bitching and being obsessed with killing ‘Takayama’. It just goes to show you how much off his rocker he really is. NsWF and Douji are really going to hell in a handbasket now. In the meantime they can enjoy some ‘Lv2 WBMasane’ GIFs on their computer screen before they go. :p Hmm, I guess all I-Weapons come with a built in camera.

As for the “not-so-happy couple”, they have now opened the door to future prospects, however there are obstacles to overcome before they can pass through completely. Reflecting back on the events from the previous night and that morning, they drive back in silence. Of course ‘Takayama’ breaks the ice this time. Because he’s good at that sort of thing when it comes to ‘Masane’. He’s REALLY concerned about her. And while she tries to brush it off like nothing is wrong he’s lets her know in so many words that he’s not a fool to the situation. Which brings them to talking about ‘Riko’. ‘Takayama’ agrees to meet with her. Which is music to ‘Masane’s ears. Back at ‘Mariko’s bar everyone is pleased to hear about the good news. Especially ‘Riko’. Even ‘Cho-san’ so moved about a “pappa’ for ‘Riko’. Though I wonder if he was thinking about something else since he’s crazy about ‘Masane’s HEALTHY exterior. ‘Tozawa’ seemed out it. Which makes you wonder if he’s kind of hurt by all this. Again it’s not like he didn’t have a thing for her. But they never really elaborated on it much. Of course I’m wondering what ‘Riko’ said to ‘Masane’ that got her blushing so much. Chances are it was probably about her staying out all night. DAMN that girl is C-A-T smart! What comes next is probably the most comical you’ll ever see ‘Takayama’. Truly a KODAK moments! :D

‘Masane’ sets it up a date where they’ll all hang out. Of course that’s what ‘Takayama’ thought as she only sends ‘Riko’ along first. Which makes for some very awkward but funny-assed moments. As ‘Takayama’ is at the mercy of handling this on his own. ‘Riko’ is overwhelmed by his “rugged-stone” presence upon their first greeting. You know the look I’m talking about. I’m like, this is way TOOO much man to handle with the ‘Riko’ charm. She’s going to have to work overtime and break out the “oni” club to bring this caveman home. :D :D Their day goes by in an eventful manner. But of course no matter how much ‘Riko’ enjoys the atmosphere she just can’t get a rise out ‘Takayama’. Until finally, back at the hotel where he was staying he manages to open up about how he’s not used to all this. And as usual ‘Riko’ seizes the moment and manages to continue breaking down the barrier surrounding him. Once again we see ‘Takayama’ doing something unrefined. Hahahaha!! :D :D

Meanwhile sneaking around and spying on the commotion is ‘Masane’ in her new “gangsta” get up. I guess she realized that her ‘Clark Kent’ disguise wasn’t cutting it. As she looks on and sees that things are starting to look good her cover gets blown. Thus the party begins. All 3 of them enjoy the rest of day together like a FAMILY. I never thought ‘Takayama’ could smile as much until now. HE WAS LITERALLY ENJOYING HIMSELF!!! And while he sits and laughs with ‘Riko’ ‘Masane’ looks on with a smile on her face that is truly moving. It’s an expression that conveys happiness but you can’t help but feel a hint of sadness there.

Evening comes and the day comes to a end with some dinner and some last minute souvenirs. As ‘Takayama’ and ‘Riko’ continue their bonding in the fish catching game. She catches 3. The 3 enjoy a peaceful ride back home and reflect on today’s little adventure with warmth in their hearts now. It is made clear now that this is what they want. To be a part of each other’s life. Things for them are changing for the better. However…

<stomach fluttering as I write this>

Their peace comes to an end very quickly as they encounter a new type of weapon. The ‘UI-Weapon’ has been dispatched and the target this time is EVERYONE!! The ‘WB’ reacts to this but ‘Masane’ resists changing for ‘Riko’s sake. Luckily, ‘Takayama’ keeps a firearm handy. But the decision of whether ‘Masane’ fights or not is quickly made as the ‘UI-Weapon’s breaks through the car’s hood and latches onto her. Thus, proceeding to PULL and I mean PULL out the ‘WB’s core gem. Which is a VERY BAD IDEA. Thus causing it to retaliate but not fully because she’s still resisting. Finally, ‘Masane’ says in so many words, “F*** IT!” And throws off the shackles and reverts AGAIN to Lvl 2. and trashes the bastard. No damage taken this time, but the armor continues to crack. However it’s still holding up and longer than the ‘CB’ bearers.

Now mind you I had wondered if there was ever going to be a moment that ‘Riko’ would learn the truth about her mom and how would she react. Would she accept ‘Masane’ this way? Well, it finally happened.

The truth has been revealed. Both stand in silence distances apart trying to make sense of all this. For what seemed like an eternity ‘Riko’ breaks the silence and runs to ‘Masane’. Embracing her she lets her know in so many words that no matter what the truth is now, you’re still my “mama”. You gotta love ‘Riko’. How could she not accept? With all that they’ve been through in the past 6 years of their lives, even with ‘Masane’ making bad choices (back to ep. 1) for her sake, and trying to hide this did you really think that she wouldn't accept ‘Masane’? The exterior may be different but it’s what’s inside that counts.

After hearing this ‘Masane’s heart is put at ease. She embraces ‘Riko’ in return. But unfortunately that tender moment is cut short as ‘Masane’ collapses on the road.

Meanwhile back at NsWF, ‘Maria’ feels the power of the ‘WB’ off in the distant night. She stands reaching toward the moonlight as she craves the “power” she’ll soon possess.

Just as things start looking up something happens to pull things back down. I would not have been surprised if ‘Wado’ dispatched this machine. Considering that this was no hybrid like ‘Yagi’ was. His madness has reached an all time high. And it’s just as he predicted, ‘Takayama’ is still haunting him. And what makes things worse is that by seeing ‘Masane’ at his side again means he’s losing ground. So this time it was a matter of “snuffing” them both out. Because at this point he really doesn’t need ‘Masane’ anymore either. Even if she is company property why keep her around if she's not going to cooporate? But we’ll take the ‘WB’ though. Hmmm…seems he didn’t get the memo either about trying to remove it. Well, you know what they say about crazy people like him? Hey’ll meet his own crazy end soon enough. As for ‘Masane’ time is running out, but yet she’s holding on. I’m starting to wonder based on her mentality, of feeling unworthy as a person, that if she does die she can go knowing that ‘Riko’ will be in good hands. Also, catch the symbolism with the goldfish lying on the dash board of the car. Surely, many have heard of that Japanese poem called 'Life of a fish'.

Phew, I’m done now. 'wrex_japan' and 'Guido' can handle the finer points. ;) Only 3 more episodes to go. Will there be a happy ending? :sad: :sad:


BGM: ’Clover’ + ‘Float ~ Sora no Kanata de’ [‘Solty Rei’], ’XTC’, ‘Ashita no te’ + ‘Spring, Summer, Fall’ [‘WITCHBLADE’] and various game music tunes -[b]’Advanced Variable Geo 2’, ‘Tron ni Kobun’, ‘Rockman Dash 2’, ‘Tail Concerto’, ’Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria’

I really enjoyed your summary of the episode; it had a lot of humor.. I love the "gangsta" references and how Wado didn't get the memo on trying to remove the WB :D. There were a few errors (Carrie Asagiri pointed out some), such as the reason why Cho-san was crying. Here is my summary and pics of episode 20. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=231) So you think the thing that attacked them was an UI-Weapon, huh? I wasn't sure, but since you think so, I'm beginning to be convinced also. ;) I really liked this episode too. There were a lot of good emotional moments.

Guido
2006-08-20, 10:41
I have seen the episode right now, and I comment it was the most beautiful stage for family bonding between MasaneXRikoXTakayama; circle that is now completed but threatened, nonetheless, by outside forces.

To hell with Nishida, Wado, and particularly Maria if dare to do anything to separate Masane's family.

The three of the them now stand on middle ground upon the prying eyes of those lunatics that want to covet the Witchblade at any costs.

Maria - the Witchblade.
Wado - the Witchblade and getting Takayama killed.
Nishida - the Witchblade and wants to take Riko.

Maria's a spurned b**c* who hasn't the slightiest idea who would be messing with, and I do not think nowadays that the WitchBlade will submit to her. In fact, I might be expecting that Maria suffers from the same fate as Darcia from Wolf's Rain.

The Witchblade will brutally reject her and struck a devastating blow on her uptight ego, and before she can understand what went wrong with her, there will be nothing left from her except for fairy dust.


But, I wonder if GONZO will really keep up with what TOP COW instructed them to do or will they manipulate the storyline at the end?

I mean just look at the imagery of the dead fishes that parallel Masane's current condition, and it may actually fortetell her death, and Masane herself is entrusting Riko to Takayama.

Besides, the Witchblade can no longer wait and wants Riko as its avatar, attempting to cancel off the contract with Masane. However, Masane's mother love for Riko gives her the supernatural resilience and durability to still operate.


Just I have to say that the episode was beautiful, and the score accompanying the family KODAK moments meant the atmosphere amiable, familiar, and cheering.

I even almost cried when Mariko run to Masane and hugged her despite her mother's transformed state.

Masane has never lost touch or grip with her humanity, and thanfully sparked a warmth to melt Takayama's heart throughout the course of the serie's progress, that now I saw him smiling, restoring his own humanity as well.

That's why Maria, Nishida, and Wado are going to lose at the end, because the dyanmics of being part of warmth, loving family and what meant to have a special person to love is untouchable, pure, innocent and cannot ever be explained by scientific means.


Jus liked wrex_japan posted on his blog, the next episode airs on August 30th which means no episode the week that comes.

To chrno and wrex_japan another nicely drafted review. You made the point without unneeded bush beating.

chrno
2006-08-20, 11:02
I really enjoyed your summary of the episode; it had a lot of humor.. I love the "gangsta" references and how Wado didn't get the memo on trying to remove the WB :D. There were a few errors (Carrie Asagiri pointed out some), such as the reason why Cho-san was crying. Here is my summary and pics of episode 20. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=231) So you think the thing that attacked them was an UI-Weapon, huh? I wasn't sure, but since you think so, I'm beginning to be convinced also. ;) I really liked this episode too. There were a lot of good emotional moments.

Thanks! :love: :love: I'm glad you did. It's not perfect but I tried. I was right on some things and other things needed a second look. Thanks to you again for providing the summary. I did't catch that thing with the 'WB' and 'Riko'. S**T man! This is just looking more and more f****ed up than you can imagine. And no matter what you can imagine for the end you still have to get through the gut wrenching before you get there. Though I'm really curious to figure out what 'Nishida' and 'Wado' are playing at. Trump card? Hmmm...got to think on this one.

As for the new 'I-Weapon' that was dispatched. I didn't think it, this was mentioned on the official site. That's where I took the info. Correcting myself :heh:, it's 'IU-Weapon'. It's listed under the ep. 20 summary. Though they don't mention it per se, that's what it's called. Like all 'I-Weapons' they are identified by their series type. The "microwave" brothers were referred to as series type 'EM'. More than likely it's another 'I-Weapon' that is combined with the 'UB' thus possibly gaining the name.

I guess it's time to take a breather from all this for now until next week. So let's all watch those ep. again until next week.

Oh wrex you gotta fix one post about "It reaches for 'Masane', should be 'Riko'.

chrno
2006-08-20, 11:28
I have seen the episode right now, and I comment it was the most beautiful stage for family bonding between MasaneXRikoXTakayama; circle that is now completed but threatened, nonetheless, by outside forces.

To hell with Nishida, Wado, and particularly Maria if dare to do anything to separate Masane's family.

The three of the them now stand on middle ground upon the prying eyes of those lunatics that want to covet the Witchblade at any costs.

Maria - the Witchblade.
Wado - the Witchblade and getting Takayama killed.
Nishida - the Witchblade and wants to take Riko.

Maria's a spurned b**c* who hasn't the slightiest idea who would be messing with, and I do not think nowadays that the WitchBlade will submit to her. In fact, I might be expecting that Maria suffers from the same fate as Darcia from Wolf's Rain.

The Witchblade will brutally reject her and struck a devastating blow on her uptight ego, and before she can understand what went wrong with her, there will be nothing left from her except for fairy dust.


But, I wonder if GONZO will really keep up with what TOP COW instructed them to do or will they manipulate the storyline at the end?

I mean just look at the imagery of the dead fishes that parallel Masane's current condition, and it may actually fortetell her death, and Masane herself is entrusting Riko to Takayama.

Besides, the Witchblade can no longer wait and wants Riko as its avatar, attempting to cancel off the contract with Masane. However, Masane's mother love for Riko gives her the supernatural resilience and durability to still operate.


Just I have to say that the episode was beautiful, and the score accompanying the family KODAK moments meant the atmosphere amiable, familiar, and cheering.

I even almost cried when Mariko run to Masane and hugged her despite her mother's transformed state.

Masane has never lost touch or grip with her humanity, and thanfully sparked a warmth to melt Takayama's heart throughout the course of the serie's progress, that now I saw him smiling, restoring his own humanity as well.

That's why Maria, Nishida, and Wado are going to lose at the end, because the dyanmics of being part of warmth, loving family and what meant to have a special person to love is untouchable, pure, innocent and cannot ever be explained by scientific means.


Jus liked wrex_japan posted on his blog, the next episode airs on August 30th which means no episode the week that comes.

To chrno and wrex_japan another nicely drafted review. You made the point without unneeded bush beating.

Thanks again Guido! :love: :love: I tried. Not really intending.
Again you make some more interesting points. And just after making a post earlier my head is starting to churn.

About the 3 wanted the 'Witchblade' but all for different reasons. As we can see with 'Maria' her desire is very plain and simple. Wado's is pretty simple too. In fact it's so simple that he can't be trusted. He want's 'Takayama' out of the way, but he seems the type of backstabbing Nishida' as well. But considering how childish he is chances are he probably couldn't pull that off effectively. Why else is he accepting help. Him and 'Nishida's "I know what you did last summer..." actions are going to cause their downfall. They may be working together to get the 'WB' but there is one little problem. 'Maria', who holds more control over this decision. 'Nishida' can't afford to f*** up now. While I could care less about 'Wado', because we all know where his head is, I'm curious to find out what 'Nishida' is planning. While we know it's about 'Riko' it's going to be a nightmare if 'Maria' finds out. Because that whole ordeal in ep. 15 wasn't finished. Forgotten for now but it's coming up again.

Hopefully at some point we will know more why all this is happening.

"It's about a mother's love. It's about sacrifice. But mostly it's about a mother's love."

grss1982
2006-08-20, 20:10
Everyone,

Looks like there's a comparisson of the DVD vs. TV footage for witchblade at:

http://www.witchblade.jp/gallery/dvd.html

Seems WBMasane is more "naked" in the DVD. :lol:

chrno
2006-08-21, 10:23
Everyone,

Looks like there's a comparisson of the DVD vs. TV footage for witchblade at:

http://www.witchblade.jp/gallery/dvd.html

Seems WBMasane is more "naked" in the DVD. :lol:

Where have you been grss1982? That was mentioned in a post sometime back. Hahahaha!! :p I even did a full comparison breakdown for ep. 1 not too long after. I'll be posting ep. 2 and 3 at some point in time.

629791 and 630416
and of course my madness 632455

grss1982
2006-08-21, 19:56
Where have you been grss1982? That was mentioned in a post sometime back. Hahahaha!! :p I even did a full comparison breakdown for ep. 1 not too long after. I'll be posting ep. 2 and 3 at some point in time.

629791 and 630416
and of course my madness 632455

Under a rock. :heh: :eyespin:

Anyways will check out the links you posted.

chrno
2006-08-21, 20:57
Under a rock. :heh: :eyespin:

Anyways will check out the links you posted.

Hahaha!! I guess that would do it. I've been there almost all the time. It's so bad people are still laughing at me. :p :D :D

Carrie Asagiri
2006-08-21, 22:23
So...No ep 21 for this week? :(
Jeez, my addiction need its drug :(

Okay, let's wait and re watch some episodes in the meantime.
And thanks wrex_japan for your review.

chrno
2006-08-22, 00:43
Here we go again with another fun filled comparison write up.

I managed to view all 3 episodes this time. Since I already covered ep. 1 let’s move on to the next 2 episodes. But first a quick look again at DVD vol. 1 and what it contains.

DVD vol 1 contains the first 3 episodes, the original promotional video that first aired. Clean OP & ED, and cast interview with ‘Mamiko Noto’ (Masane Amaha).

Again this is analyzing screens and technical stuff. So I’m only doing this for fun. So you can check it out if you’re interested. ;) or want to be bored out of your mind. :p

Comparison between TV broadcast ep. 2 -vs- DVD version vol. 1, ep. 2

Everything so far toward the beginning is the same. Remember this is the “non-action” episode.

spoiler tag in place to save space:
-Shot where ‘Takayama’ stands looking out the window waiting for ‘Segawa’s report: Scene shows clusters of buildings outside surrounding the waterfront setting where Douji Industries is located. In this shot you can barely see the waterfront. DVD version shows similar scene but “altered”. Different shot used. More spacious area with less buildings. Less cluster (more of an “L” shape). TV version shows lighting over buildings whereas, DVD version is darker with no lighting except for the lights that are either shining through windows or are affixed to the outside of the buildings. Scene gives you the sense that it is night outside. This contrast also allows you to see ‘Takayama’s reflection on the glass. TV version show shapes and hues which sort of meld together a bit. (0:04:40 -vs- 0:04:30)

-Shot where ‘Segawa’ reports to ‘Takayama’ after bringing in ‘Masane’:
Close-up shot of ‘Takayama’ looking out the window casting his reflection on the window. Again clusters and I mean CLUSTERS of city buildings can be seen surrounding the waterfront area. Also, you can see ‘Segawa’ preparing to enter the room through the glass. Lighting in the room is dark; a bluish-type hue. Everything seems to blend together making it hard to tell what’s what. Especially, ‘Segawa’ entering through the electronic door. Because the frame that goes across the window outside blocks any view to the floor in the room. DVD version corrects this by changing the lighting in the room so it corresponds with the actual light coming from the ceiling fixtures. This clearly allows you to see ‘Segawa’ when he enters. Even with the frame across the window. ‘Takayama’s reflection clearly shown however, NO SCAR over eye. Don’t know why it was removed. Either it was an error or the fact that it’s an art issue where not everything is revealed in a reflection. Just the basic shadows. Again waterfront shows a more open (“L-shaped”) view with surrounding buildings. (0:04:46-0:48 –vs- 0:04:36-0:38)

Scene afterward where ‘Takayama’ and ‘Segawa’ are standing on opposite sides of the room discussing the matter is clearly seen. TV version has to pan in order for whole shot to be viewed.

Scenes in ‘Mariko’s bar:

-Shot of ‘NAoMi’ (hey, that’s how her name is spelled on the official site) sitting at her fortune table. Facial features “cleaned up” slightly. (0:06:08 –vs- 0:05:58)

-Shot of ‘Mariko’s selection of “good libations” changed where bottles are more organized by type and size. Drinking glasses of different sizes located on lower shelf. TV version shows various selections but not organized. Slightly distorted image. Drinking glasses are all the same size. This is based on TWO totally different painted backgrounds used. (0:06:20 –vs- 0:06:10)

-Scene where ‘Mariko’ talks with ‘Tozawa’ at the counter. Phone on wall is a “curved” shape. DVD version features a rectangular shape. Also, bottles turned upside down in their pumps behind counter show brand names. TV version shows bottles turned upside down but they look like metallic colored air tanks. WTF!!! :confused: (0:06:38 –vs- 0:06:28)

-‘Tozawa’s face altered slightly. Shadows removed from some areas on the face and redone. Same method was applied to his clothing. (0:06:51 –vs- 0:06:41)

-Again shot behind counter has bottles in order by type and size. TV version does not. Also picture of disaster taken by ‘Tozawa’ 6 years ago is visible from a distance. DVD version gives it a more golden faded look. As it is probably not supposed to be visible due to the lighting in the room. :hmm: (0:07:04 –vs- 0:06:54)

-NAoMi’s eyelashes MIA!!!
TV version shows shadow on NAoMi’s nose but no eyelashes. DVD version removes shadow adds eyelashes. (0:07:09 –vs- 0:06:59)

-Counter scene with ‘Tozawa’, ‘Rihoko’, and ‘Mariko’ same but different. TV version shows colored metallic “generico” bottles sitting in a corner behind the bar counter. Metallic mixing cup and shot glasses sit on the opposite side of the sink. Bottles in pumps look like small baseball bats. DVD version “alters” scene by adding name brand liquors, lemons and oranges for sprucing, a juicer, shaker and stirrers. Mixing and shot glasses look like GLASS because they’re made of GLASS. (0:07:15 -vs- 0:07:05)

-Scene where ‘Riko’ runs under the table and holds on: Shot is the same in both version but with a slight difference. The shot is “altered” where the chair located nearby is angled so that we get a better shot of ‘Riko’ holding the bottom half of the table. TV version , chair blocks a small portion of ‘Riko’s arm. (0:07:38 -vs- 0:07:28)

-I WANT TO BEAT THE S***** OUT OF RIKO!
Scenes where ‘Mariko’ is trying to pry ‘Riko’ from under the table.: Earlier shots before the craziness had to be “altered” a tad. ‘Mariko’s face still shows a stern and forceful expression but less BEAT-YO-ASS aggressive. ‘Tozawa’s face goes from, “what the hell are they doing?” to being speechless to the whole ordeal. Again bottles on shelf in the background are in order by type and size. (0:07:43-0:08:08 –vs- 0:07:33-0:58)

Scenes afterward of characters get “altered” and “cleaned up” a little. Looking much smoother and closer to their designs. Again ‘Mariko’ altered to look less barbaric.

Back at ‘Takayama’s office:

-Scene where ‘Masane’ begins to awaken from nightmare. Dream sequence where she first gets contracted by the ‘Witchblade’ is dark but some things are visible. In other words scenes revert back to being somewhat dark but not as dark as TV version. Again this flashback was already made visible in ep. 1 of the DVD version. (0:09:12-:18 –vs- 0:09:02-:08)

-Scene where ‘Masane’ jolts awake: Shots “altered” and “cleaned up”. TV version shows dark shadows under eyes. Man talk about lack of sleep! :p DVD version corrects this by making them less prominent. Shadow around nose removed. Tank-top fixed to look like a tank-top. Not a goddamn “horseshoe”. :p :D (0:09:24 –vs- 0:09:14)

-Scene where ‘Masane’ tries to get up from couch but falls back down due to the tranquilizer; close-up shot of ‘Masane’ holding her head with last 2 fingers shown outside of hair. DVD version changes position of fingers so they’re more under the hair touching the head. Hmm...don’t know which one I like more.
Shadows that were already applied; corrected while others are placed in areas they weren’t before. ‘Masane’s side hair shortened. There were ¼” too long in TV version. Also, Witchblade bracelet drawn correctly. Whereas, TV version it looked like two really cool tape wraps. :confused: :p (0:10:25 -vs- 0:10:15)

Scenes leading up to the boarding of the helicopter to the scenes that take place inside are “altered” and “cleaned up”. Faces mostly and shadows. Also, in the DVD version you can see ‘Segawa’ sitting in the seat beside ‘Takayama’ whereas, in the TV version you could not. This was a technical (aspect ratio) issue.

-Shot of ‘Takayama’s mean mug. DVD version again alters facial shots and removes extra shadows. So now we now go from ‘ Takayama’ “the wide-eyed-I’m-so-upset-I-that-it’s-disgusting” to ‘Takayama’ the handsome unsmiling hawkeyed. (0:13:49 –vs- 0:13:39)

-Again shadows on ‘Takayama’s face and facial features “altered” and “cleaned up”. Lines for 5 o’ clock shadow removed. Eh??? (0:14:36 –vs- 0:14:26)


Back at Marry’s Gallery:

-Shot of liquor bottles behind the counter are organized by type and size. Also shelf is longer in length showing more distance between ‘Mariko’s hand and the next shelf. TV version features the unorganized bottles on same shelves but shorter in length according to the bottles sizes. Distorted again. TV monitor different in both versions based on background drawings. “Ok, so I like booze!” :p (0:17:48 -vs- 0:17:38)

-WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GO? THEY DIDN’T JUST GET UP AND WALK AWAY!!! Wanna bet?
Telephone runs off with light switches to get hitched “Vegas style”. Both were found and returned to their rightful owner in time for the DVD version. ‘Riko’s expression (when ‘Mariko’ turns off the TV after listening to the news) changes from wide eyed, “I was watching that” to sad-eyed “damn, people are so cold when my mama is out there cold and starving. Or possibly DEAD!” (0:18:11 –vs- 0:18:01)

Back inside the helicopter:

-Again scenes “altered” and “cleaned up”. Mostly facial shots. ‘Masane’s reaction to ‘Takayama’ talking about the research facility they’re heading to while she’s trying to jump ship of the vessel changes from “ohgawdwhathehellisthat?” To “eh?” For a minute there I thought ‘Takayama’ was breaking out the “stud-driver”. :naughty: :p (0:18:45 –vs- 0:18:35)

-Beginning of ‘Witchblade’ transformation for ‘Masane’ during first encounter with I-Weapon: Eyes turn dark gray with pupils slowly glowing more yellow. In the TV version the eyes do not change. Pupils begin to glow but don’t go for for the “gold”. If you look closely you can almost see where the transition would be. (0:20:54 –vs- 0:20:44)

-Faraway shot of ‘WBMasane’ on battlefield. “Skin-version” of course. Shot “altered” a bit. We traded the gray ‘WBMasane’ robot genie for the real ‘WBMasane’ and her buttcheeks. :p :D :D Energy currents radiating outward from ‘WBMasane’s body in various directions. TV version shows energy currents circling around her in a spiral fashion. Like MAAAA-GIC! HUH??? (0:21:02 –vs- 0:20:52)

-Weird gradation effect: This only occurs in the TV version. It’s like an ashy gradation that takes place during the transformation. In this sequence, (where ‘Masane is on her hands and knees as the transformations nears completion) you see the gradation moving along the armor like a shadow. It looks gritty at first but clears ups when it gets to her arms and breasts. Where the area shows gray it then fades away to reveal the skin areas that are not edited. DVD version does not present this little effect as it is the “skin” version all the way. It’s strange. You’d have to see it to understand what I’m talking about. I guess they put it in the TV version to add to the transformation effect since it was edited. :hmm: (0:21:09-0:21:12 –vs- 0:20:59-0:21:02)

-DID YOU REMEMBER TO STARVE THE BEAST?: In the scenes where ‘WBMasane’ starts licking her chops; the frames in those sequences while similar have been “cleaned up” a bit in the DVD version. (0:21:18-:20 –vs- 0:21:08-21:10)

Everything else with ‘Riko’ running all over town to get to ‘Tokyo Tower’ and ‘WBMasane’ getting hot and bothered for some good old fashioned carnage unchanged. Cue my song DAMMIT!!

Whoo, that was fun. Not funny as ep. 1 but good enough. Seems the highlight of this little experiment was ‘Mariko’s liquor bottles. As mentioned before many of the characters have been slicked up to match their model sheets more. Some of the backgrounds used are similar but with slight differences. While others are completely different. Various shots that range from good to average will not be changed as much. Again colors enhanced and things that you couldn’t make out before now can now be seen due to the aspect ratio.

To be continued with ep. 3.

Guido
2006-08-22, 09:03
Thanks again Guido! :love: :love: I tried. Not really intending.
Again you make some more interesting points. And just after making a post earlier my head is starting to churn.

About the 3 wanted the 'Witchblade' but all for different reasons. As we can see with 'Maria' her desire is very plain and simple. Wado's is pretty simple too. In fact it's so simple that he can't be trusted. He want's 'Takayama' out of the way, but he seems the type of backstabbing Nishida' as well. But considering how childish he is chances are he probably couldn't pull that off effectively. Why else is he accepting help. Him and 'Nishida's "I know what you did last summer..." actions are going to cause their downfall. They may be working together to get the 'WB' but there is one little problem. 'Maria', who holds more control over this decision. 'Nishida' can't afford to f*** up now. While I could care less about 'Wado', because we all know where his head is, I'm curious to find out what 'Nishida' is planning. While we know it's about 'Riko' it's going to be a nightmare if 'Maria' finds out. Because that whole ordeal in ep. 15 wasn't finished. Forgotten for now but it's coming up again.

Hopefully at some point we will know more why all this is happening.

"It's about a mother's love. It's about sacrifice. But mostly it's about a mother's love."

I'm posting a quick rundown of who gets at the other's throat.
Wado getting killed by Nishida / Takayama / Segawa.
Nishida murdered wannabe by Maria / Masane.
Maria wasted by Masane / Nishida

Thinking carefully and analyzing the next episode would be the bomb to spark the final retribution, building the climax at episode 22 and follows afterwards with the final showdown and the resolution that comes next at episode 23.
Episode 24 might a full epilogue that describes what becomes of the survivors in a relative time jump.

Even if Masane and Takayama can handle to finish once and for all Douji & NSWF, their destruction by no means would ring bells of eternal peace to our heroes because someone else would step in to finish what both started: laying hands on the Witchblade- filling the power void.
The Witchblade has been since the dawn of history and clearly mankind on that universe has virtually degraded to strive at everything and being the creator of better WMD weapons to force themselves worthy of owning the gauntlet.

And I'm not forgetting the Witchblade's sentience. Mortals winning against each other signifies a trivial issue of little bother to the artifact. The Witchblade simply will have its way to reach and contracted its new avatar, Rihoko's in this case, and no one, not even Masane and Takayama, can interfere or stop the process.

Am I seeing that the course of fate within the plot is driven by determinism?

chrno
2006-08-23, 16:39
I'm posting a quick rundown of who gets at the other's throat.
Wado getting killed by Nishida / Takayama / Segawa.
Nishida murdered wannabe by Maria / Masane.
Maria wasted by Masane / Nishida

I'll put my money on either 'Takayama' trying to kill 'Wado' since he carries a handgun with him. Or he'll get killed by an 'I-Weapon' gone haywire. Since he's the one that spends so much time messing with them anyway. 'Takayama' probably won't get a chance to take his life. Or he might not portrayed as one that would take someone's life. I could be wrong.

Nishida might get offed by 'Maria'. Because is doing what 'Maria' wants but she's also doing something else. To be honest even thought she and crybaby 'Wado' are working together it will be no surprise of them trying to overtake the other for the 'WB'. 'Nishida' is a lot smarter than you think.

Thinking carefully and analyzing the next episode would be the bomb to spark the final retribution, building the climax at episode 22 and follows afterwards with the final showdown and the resolution that comes next at episode 23.
Episode 24 might a full epilogue that describes what becomes of the survivors in a relative time jump.

Even if Masane and Takayama can handle to finish once and for all Douji & NSWF, their destruction by no means would ring bells of eternal peace to our heroes because someone else would step in to finish what both started: laying hands on the Witchblade- filling the power void.
The Witchblade has been since the dawn of history and clearly mankind on that universe has virtually degraded to strive at everything and being the creator of better WMD weapons to force themselves worthy of owning the gauntlet.

And I'm not forgetting the Witchblade's sentience. Mortals winning against each other signifies a trivial issue of little bother to the artifact. The Witchblade simply will have its way to reach and contracted its new avatar, Rihoko's in this case, and no one, not even Masane and Takayama, can interfere or stop the process.

Am I seeing that the course of fate within the plot is driven by determinism?

More than likely. Again the 'WB' is a cursed and sentient thing that sort of just plants itself down in the middle of things and then see where things go from there. It's more neutral if anything. But again it still chooses where it wants to go and with whom. There are numerous theories of why the 'WB' chose 'Masane'. Why? That's the question. Who does it really want? Again another question. And does it really want that or this person? Unless the 'WB' found all the stuff between 'Douji' and 'NsWF' to be interesting that it wanted to find a way to get back in the middle of it. And again with the deal concerning 'Riko', that's another matter. Whatever the case hopefully, 'Gonzo' will be able to give us a satisfying end to this whole ordeal.

Oh went around on some of the Japanese boards. I found one that was pretty interesting. For ep. 19 they pointed out something about 'Wado'. That he shares an uncanny resemblance as well as madness with 'Jinnai' from 'El Hazard'. I found this too funny. :D :D :D Hahaha!!

Oh managed to run across a pretty nice CG doujin for 'Witchblade' on the Japan side of DLsite. It's a pretty nice one. 16 images all ranging from "safe" to "OOOOOOOOOOH, I'm telling mom you're looking at dirty pictures!!" Nothing like watching 'Masane' getting it on 'solo' or with the generic "no-faced" somebody. :twitch: :confused: No extreme sexcapades (thank gawd!). Just some good old-fashioned "dirty" fun. And some "bathtime" cheese-cake. I guess they wanted more out of the bath ep. Seeing 'Masane' in all her naked glory washing is always a plus. :p Oh and let's not forget a nice shot of 'Riko' and 'Masane' kneeling in front of her. SMILING PEOPLE!! A really nice pic. It's probably the only G-Rated pic on the whole disc. No wait, there is another. It's just before she shows off her "top-shelf goods". Hoo boy. But hey we get to see a little of 'Masane's undies in her pants. Well, yknow how low-riders fit. People can see your butt-crack easily. And 'Masane' is only a whopping HEAL-THY 23! :p The circle that created CG collection matched the designs so well you'd swear it was someone on 'Gonzo's staff that did it. I guess it pays to have lax copyright laws, when you live in Japan. Hahahaha!! But this is definitely a 'Masane' lovers only disc. Hell, it's been DL'd 160+ times. Gee, ya think they like it?

Speaking of the series. I was on the official site and was looking over the good section. There is another book added to the series titled 'Witchblade - Lost Generation'. From the info it looked that 'Uno Makoto' is the illustrator for the book. I knew the art looked familiar. I also think that title was mentioned in the above article as well. I'm curious to see how these 2 books turn out here now being a part of the 'Witchblade' franchise.

Guido
2006-08-23, 23:46
I'll put my money on either 'Takayama' trying to kill 'Wado' since he carries a handgun with him. Or he'll get killed by an 'I-Weapon' gone haywire. Since he's the one that spends so much time messing with them anyway. 'Takayama' probably won't get a chance to take his life. Or he might not portrayed as one that would take someone's life. I could be wrong.

Nishida might get offed by 'Maria'. Because is doing what 'Maria' wants but she's also doing something else. To be honest even thought she and crybaby 'Wado' are working together it will be no surprise of them trying to overtake the other for the 'WB'. 'Nishida' is a lot smarter than you think.



More than likely. Again the 'WB' is a cursed and sentient thing that sort of just plants itself down in the middle of things and then see where things go from there. It's more neutral if anything. But again it still chooses where it wants to go and with whom. There are numerous theories of why the 'WB' chose 'Masane'. Why? That's the question. Who does it really want? Again another question. And does it really want that or this person? Unless the 'WB' found all the stuff between 'Douji' and 'NsWF' to be interesting that it wanted to find a way to get back in the middle of it. And again with the deal concerning 'Riko', that's another matter. Whatever the case hopefully, 'Gonzo' will be able to give us a satisfying end to this whole ordeal.


My theory why the Witchblade chose Masane is because so she would protect Riko. I mean Riko was a newborn in Reina's arms and was at the epicenter of the impact; protected by the Witchblades' powers.

Masane happened to be at that same spot by chance, and the Witchblade knew that Riko was vulnerable and helpless at that time. If she chose Masane to be Riko's guardian, was it coincidence or determined fate? -Another mystery that arises.
The Witchblade is allowing Masane to live because of the bonding she's connected to Riko; a bonding that tresspasses beyond genetics and explains her high compatibility with the Witchblade.

Prior to the cataclysm, Reina had the same compatibility but lost it as time passed. Would the Witchblade instead had chosen Reina over Masane to act as a temporary avatar in order to protect Riko on the basis that unlike Masane, Reina only fulfilled the genetic requirements? -Question number 2

-Is there more to the Witchblade compability than the dynamics of DNA, for example, emotions playing a toll as well?

I might be bold to insinuate that some way or another Takayama is also related, or the Witchblade has still a use for him.
- Hypothetically speaking, let's suppose that the Witchblade wants Riko is true.
- Takayama being Riko's biological father is also true, supposing as well.

Among infinite probabilities and scenarios we have a stage where Takayama is also a major player for the Witchblade. His actions will help to build the outcome on what's in store for the Witchblade.

xizro345
2006-08-28, 14:54
Finally back from holidays! 8P Interesting stuff going on, from what I see. I got the Limited DVD vol.2 today, if people are interested I'll post some more pics 8P

JShaggy
2006-08-29, 18:02
Just took a look at Volume 2 today, and all I can say is that they really cleaned up a lot of areas, and also

More skin for CloneBlade Shiori
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3413/dualblades1ac.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualblades1ac.jpg)http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/922/clonebladesdvdversionfq5.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladesdvdversionfq5.jpg)
I'll post more when I get the chance to.

Guido
2006-08-29, 18:14
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1515/wbstatuemariamr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Set for release on December, retailing at a price of 8190 yen.

Source. http://eg.nttpub.co.jp/news/20060829_11.html

chrno
2006-08-29, 19:28
Just took a look at Volume 2 today, and all I can say is that they really cleaned up a lot of areas, and also

More skin for CloneBlade Shiori
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3413/dualblades1ac.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualblades1ac.jpg)http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/922/clonebladesdvdversionfq5.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladesdvdversionfq5.jpg)
I'll post more when I get the chance to.

See that's what I'm talking about! Hahahaha! Talk about a clean up. The one thing I forgot about when vol. 2 came out was these were the episodes where 'Reina' and 'Shiori' show up. Twice. Actually 3 times. Which is also the reason why 'Shiori's is on the outer DVD casing for vol. 2. I have to see that vol. because I want to see what they did. But definitely post more pics. :)

Oh, and that's a mighty fine model of 'Maria'. I saw the prototype for it awhile back. But now it's a finished product. It's actually very nice! :) Look at that CUTE WIDDLE chin! Thanks Guido and JShaggy for the pics.

Oh, the 'Witchblade Sketch Art book' is available at 'Animaxis.com'. Apparently they managed to get their hand on some but they're sold out now. But will be getting more at some point. How stupid stupid stupid of me to not pay attention to my newsletters all the way. UGGGGh!

JShaggy
2006-08-29, 21:33
As promised, more CloneBlade Shiori skin pics:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7681/clonebladeshiorifronteg1.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladeshiorifronteg1.jpg) http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4116/clonebladeshioribacksidetm9.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladeshioribacksidetm9.jpg)

As for the comparisons:
NOTE: TV version on top; DVD version on bottom

Episode 4:

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/453/witchblade04pan1fu.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchblade04pan1fu.jpg)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8177/witchblade04pandvdversionsk8.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchblade04pandvdversionsk8.jpg)
Clean-up of scene with Reina, Shiori, and Ex-Cons (00:20:10 - 00:20:16)

Episode 5:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9518/wbep501.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep501.jpg)
TV version (00:00:17): CloneBlade Reina has her arms behind her head
DVD version (00:00:18): Reina takes her regular stance (no arms behind head)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6113/wbep502.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep502.jpg)
Self-explanatory

Scene clean-ups:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5348/tozawa-tvversion.th.gif (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tozawa-tvversion.gif)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1185/tozawa-dvdversion.th.gif (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tozawa-dvdversion.gif)
DVD version: Tozawa's hand is drawn correctly, unlike the TV version

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2012/wbep503.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep503.jpg)
Self-explanatory (00:13:55 - 00:13:56)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6462/wbep504.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep504.jpg)
Same scenes, but different workers (00:14:08)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4835/wbep505.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep505.jpg) http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8926/wbep506.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep506.jpg)
Clean-up of final scene of Episode 5; Still shot different in both versions

Episode 6:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6489/wbep601.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep601.jpg)
DVD version shows a shadow of Shiori's blade over her bed, whereas the TV version shows Shiori's blade form underneath the bed sheets.
That's all for now.

chrno
2006-08-30, 08:45
As promised, more CloneBlade Shiori skin pics:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7681/clonebladeshiorifronteg1.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladeshiorifronteg1.jpg) http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4116/clonebladeshioribacksidetm9.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladeshioribacksidetm9.jpg)

Notice how phallic that stance looks. :p They really wanted to please their fans. Shiori in SKIN MODE! Actually that's a really good shot. Again she looks "beast" like.

As for the comparisons:
NOTE: TV version on top; DVD version on bottom

Episode 4:

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/453/witchblade04pan1fu.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchblade04pan1fu.jpg)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8177/witchblade04pandvdversionsk8.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchblade04pandvdversionsk8.jpg)
Clean-up of scene with Reina, Shiori, and Ex-Cons (00:20:10 - 00:20:16)

Notice how sly 'Shiori' looks. Oh, yeah I can take them!

Episode 5:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9518/wbep501.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep501.jpg)
TV version (00:00:17): CloneBlade Reina has her arms behind her head
DVD version (00:00:18): Reina takes her regular stance (no arms behind head)

She's a woman who knows her business. Not a glamor model.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6113/wbep502.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep502.jpg)
Self-explanatory

Notice they didn't change much they just removed the towel and the steam. "We want to see 'Masane's naked backside dammit!!"

Scene clean-ups:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5348/tozawa-tvversion.th.gif (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tozawa-tvversion.gif)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1185/tozawa-dvdversion.th.gif (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tozawa-dvdversion.gif)
DVD version: Tozawa's hand is drawn correctly, unlike the TV version

Now that is funny. I had wondered about that. I think 'Mariko' is laughing because of his hand.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2012/wbep503.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep503.jpg)
Self-explanatory (00:13:55 - 00:13:56)

'Riko' knows her pots and pans. One shot is like "ganbatte" and the other is like "gotta pick a good knife." Hell, even 'Masane's face is different.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6462/wbep504.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep504.jpg)
Same scenes, but different workers (00:14:08)

Now that is funny. The worker in the TV version looked pregnant she probably was working out her last days.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4835/wbep505.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep505.jpg) http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8926/wbep506.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep506.jpg)
Clean-up of final scene of Episode 5; Still shot different in both versions

I still kind of liked that dramatic image. It kind of fit. But hey...

Episode 6:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6489/wbep601.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep601.jpg)
DVD version shows a shadow of Shiori's blade over her bed, whereas the TV version shows Shiori's blade form underneath the bed sheets.
That's all for now.

I'm wondering why they hid it in the first place.

It just goes to show you what you believe IS the case until you get another product. Yet you accept them both. I know I do. Now you know when vol. 3 comes out they're definitely going to fix that boat fight. OH GAWD! I can't wait to see it. I have yet to see vol. 2. It's going to be SOOO COOL when the DVDs are released here! Yet I'll miss the TV broadcasts. They truly hold a novelty that we've all shared into.

Hey, JShaggy can you show that scene where 'Riko' hugs 'Masane in the hotel room? You know the one. Oh and 'Masane's big butt scene on the boat in ep. 6. I'm curious now.

Guido
2006-08-30, 12:16
The Witchblade website has updated its Story section with Episode 21 entry in it.
http://www.witchblade.jp/story/index.html

From the looks of the pics posted there.....

- The future is painting a grim shade for Masane, as the Witchblade continues to deteriorate.

- A confrontation between Takayama and Tozawa.


Today's episode will air in one more hour on CBC station.

chrno
2006-08-30, 12:49
The Witchblade website has updated its Story section with Episode 21 entry in it.
http://www.witchblade.jp/story/index.html

From the looks of the pics posted there.....

- The future is painting a grim shade for Masane, as the Witchblade continues to deteriorate.

- A confrontation between Takayama and Tozawa.


Today's episode will air in one more hour on CBC station.

I'm counting the hours. Got my world clock up. Of course I won't be able to see any spoilers until I see the ep first. Can I resist the temptation to peek? DOH!!! I can't stand it!!! :eyespin: :eyespin: I can't believe I managed to get this far without an episode last week.

Guido
2006-08-30, 14:40
futaba has released the screenshots.

NSWF or Douji have neither made an attempt on getting Masane or Riko in this episode.

However, Masane is suffering physical convulsions and a burning sensation on her wrist as the Witchblade is attempting to cancel off the contract to leave her for Riko.

Masane has this nightmare where she places her right arm under a press and has a remote on her free hand. The looks on her eyes assimilate that of a wild animal expectant in rage and fear of pain.

In fact, the Witchblade hurts so much on Masane's wrist as she feels in hell.

Like someone else mentioned, the I-Weapons started to give signs of malfunction meaning that Tokyo is about to be infested with Ex-cons very soon.


Do this shot looks familiar?
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5641/masaneshotns2.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=masaneshotns2.jpg)

chrno
2006-08-30, 15:55
futaba has released the screenshots.

NSWF or Douji have neither made an attempt on getting Masane or Riko in this episode.

However, Masane is suffering physical convulsions and a burning sensation on her wrist as the Witchblade is attempting to cancel off the contract to leave her for Riko.

Masane has this nightmare where she places her right arm under a press and has a remote on her free hand. The looks on her eyes assimilate that of a wild animal expectant in rage and fear of pain.

In fact, the Witchblade hurts so much on Masane's wrist as she feels in hell.

Like someone else mentioned, the I-Weapons started to give signs of malfunction meaning that Tokyo is about to be infested with Ex-cons very soon.


Do this shot looks familiar?
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5641/masaneshotns2.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=masaneshotns2.jpg)

GOOD GAWD!!! My heart shudders and my nerves are now edgy!! I knew I shouldn't have read it! :( :( :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:

Yes this shot does look familiar. I remember seeing it in the opening. Only 3 more eps to go. And I can't watch this until maybe Friday. YAAAAGH!!! I know when I do I'm probably going to feel like s***t. :( :( :upset: :upset: :upset: :sad: :sad:

Guido
2006-08-30, 17:55
Gathered and arranged two full sets of screenshots for episode 21. Enjoy!


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6638/witchbladeep21aps6.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchbladeep21aps6.jpg)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5682/witchbladeep21bwc9.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchbladeep21bwc9.jpg)

JShaggy
2006-08-31, 21:34
Re-watched Episode 4, and found the following:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7908/wbep401ta4.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep401ta4.jpg)
The hotel scene (00:02:30 - 00:04:46)
Notice in the first two shots that on the DVD version, Riko is clutching Masane below her large breasts rather than clutching her breasts like in the TV version. A lot of clean-ups in this time frame.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4058/wbep402ll1.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep402ll1.jpg)
(00:05:44 - 00:05:49) Notice that Takayama's scar on his right eye is the correct size in the DVD version, and larger in the TV version.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8909/wbep403ut9.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep403ut9.jpg)
(00:06:05 - 00:06:55) Some minor clean-ups and corrections were made in this sequence. Notice on the first clip the computer monitor is missing in the TV version, yet the DVD version shows it. The second clip shows Reina with a laptop computer and what looks like a thermos on her desk in the TV version, however this is corrected in the DVD version by showing the appropriate items that should've been there. Other touch-ups included the lipstick mark on Reina's teacup that Shiori kisses, and of course the drive-away sequence looks more together and detailed in the DVD version.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5866/wbep404yf7.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep404yf7.jpg)
Scene clean-up in the background where Segawa is standing (00:07:15 - 00:07:17)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7395/wbep405jh4.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep405jh4.jpg)
Scene clean-up where Cho-san first appears in the show (00:08:09 - 00:09:21)

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4458/wbep406rd4.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep406rd4.jpg)
(00:10:34 ; 00:10:44) Notice on the TV version that Nora is standing behind Reina, while on the DVD version she is nowhere to be found. :confused:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9020/wbep407gb6.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep407gb6.jpg)
(00:11:11 - 00:13:13) More scene clean-ups and corrections (eg: Segawa cleaning the car; Mariko's appearance). In the next to last clip, NAoMI appears in the background during the fight between Masane and Mariko in the DVD version; however, she is nowhere to be found in the TV version. In the last scene, the setting is corrected to show nighttime in the DVD version, rather than daytime like on the TV version.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4996/wbep408jp1.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep408jp1.jpg)
(00:13:13 - 00:14:13) If there's one thing about the difference between the DVD version and the TV version is the random changes made on the DVD version that are not found in the TV version. For instance, the CloneBlade sister getting attacked by the Ex-Con trio is different in both versions during this timeframe.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5436/wbep409yy2.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep409yy2.jpg)
Self-explanatory (00:14:35)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7246/wbep410wc8.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep410wc8.jpg)
Self-explanatory (00:19:16 - 00:19:40)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2799/wbep411bf2.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep411bf2.jpg)
Self-explanatory (00:15:23)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9394/wbep412or7.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep412or7.jpg)
Final scene: the jewel on the WitchBlade glows brighter on the DVD version, along with Masane's eyes.
Also, more CloneBlade Shiori comparisons:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8826/clonebladeshiorieyesxm4.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladeshiorieyesxm4.jpg)
(00:20:58 - 00:21:01) Shiori's eyes glow more in the DVD version than in the TV version.

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4308/clonebladeshioribustkl8.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clonebladeshioribustkl8.jpg)
(00:21:09 - 00:21:14) Scene cleaned up and corrected in the DVD version to show Shiori's correct bust size.And since chrno asked me to do so:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7356/wbep602ba3.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep602ba3.jpg)
(00:17:06) Unfortunately, no change in this scene :(

Guido
2006-09-01, 00:45
I found officially this episode to be the most emotional distressing and heartbreaking to have made me cry, and that's just three episodes before the ending.

Also, I found out that the themes of fear to death and limited time were essentially similar as how they were portrayed in Chrno Crusade.


Medical examinations on Masane concluded that her body is in physical stress and won't handle it anymore. Takayama isn't fooled, as he knows better like Masane that the Witchblade is spending her lifetime at a faster rate since that previous fight with Yagi.

A frustrated Tozawa follows Takayama to an isolated warehouse area owned by Douji; secret lab facilities. Interesting, that the personnel staff there still remember Takayama and continue to treat him as the only and geniune Director.
From the research done to the Witchblade:
Speculation. Masane's undergoing the same case as of Reina, but her condition is even more chronic because looks like she's losing compatibility with the Witchblade at a faster rate than the late Lady.

The crew also reported to Takayama that they lost control to about 300 manufactured I-Weapons who have recently suffering malfunctioning activity; the source of this problem is related to no one else but Wado.
The research also confirms that the I-Weapons abnormality runs in synchronicity with the Witchblade.
Speculation. Chances are high that all I-Weapons will simultaneously turn into Ex-cons and run rampant throughout Tokyo once the Witchblade changes host.

At NSWF, Nishida is listening to Wado on the phone line. He's furious for the apparent failure of the last IU-Weapon. Nishida pretends listening to him, but her attention span is absorbed on the computer screen playing a video feedback of LV2 WMasane.
She's growing vexed and fed up with Wado's constant whining and in her monologues is waiting for the time to catch the power in her hands.

Maria is also making final preparations to lay her hands on the Witchblade and just of a sudden hallucinates Reina standing in the middle of the hallway; she's traumatized for a mere seconds after spacing out and before Aoi gives her a reality check.

Masane wakes up from her bed; she's in home. She looks at the portrait of Riko and she, but a gust of wind blows by and makes it drop; Masane's feeling a void and desperation anxiety. Afterwards, she sees Riko's hand-drawn sketch and bursts into tears.
Her reaction was exactly similar to that of Rosette Christopher in the last episode of Chrno Crusade. 'Shinitakunai' (I don't want to die)....
Masane was yelling over and over, because if she's gone for good then who will take care of Riko. She can't imagine Riko's life growing without a mother, without her. She wishes to live longer.

Masane wanders off and ends up in an abandoned workshop. She desperately tries anything to dislodge the Witchblade.
Poking the gem with a screwdriver or placing her right hand under a press. She doesn't care about losing her hand or the pain that feels as hellfire. She cries not to want this power but to get rid of it, so that it won't take Riko.
Her attempts are futile as the Witchblade fights back to defend itself from being destroyed.

Feeling down at the lowest peak of depression, a Masane with a feral look converses with the Witchblade that it's not getting Riko, and if she dies then will take it with her to hell.

Tozawa is returning to Marry's Gallery without stopping on reflecting about the last words that Takayama spoke to him. That were to take care of both Masane and Riko.
I can infere from those words that Takayama will be paying a visit to Douji in order to settle one final score on Wado.

Tozawa finds that the whole bunch is throwing a party. Masane had joined in several hours earlier to forget about her fears of deah and spending as much time as possible with Riko. Tozawa joins in to release stress and everyone is having fun, but the two of them cannot deceive themselves as this party would be last time for Masane and Riko getting happy memories.
Another event similar to Chrno Crusade was that Tozawa started to take pictures of everyone either individual or in groups. However, Masane and Riko's mother-daughter pictures were the most focused on by the new music score played, foretelling the unknown; an impending doom of loss and tragedy.

Masane and Riko's last picture together is the cliffhanger of this episode.

Guido
2006-09-01, 10:19
Sorry for double post.

As far concerning animation issues, it fared poorly most at the long shots.

The overall episode was sprayed with a cloudy layer of gray shades to make it depressing.
Maybe done to focus on Masane's angst and desperation.

However, the most glaring flaw was how Riko's face got hand drawn. Her left cheek looked swollen and bulged, as if she was suffering mumps.

Pay attention when the camera pans close on her at the shots on the hospital.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-09-02, 13:56
I just watched and I'm agree with Guido about episode 21 wasthe most emotional distressing and heartbreaking. I cried in a lot of moments too.

When Masane woke up in her bed and sees the drawings made by Riko and started to say that she doesn't want to die, I couldn't help it but cry like hell. When she attempted to take off the Witchblade was a tense and touching scene, because her desesperation was terrible. And her look like an animal was terrible. Another scene very touching for me was when Tozawa started to almost cry when Takayama showed him the Witchblade data and explained him about Masane's fate. And of course the last scene, with the party. When Tozawa shots the pic with Masane and Riko, he said "Damned it!!". And after the ending credits, listening the preview made by Masane made me cloud my eyes again. She was asking to Riko to keep smiling because she loves to see Riko's smiling face and not crying T__T

Anyway, still crossing my fingers for the end...

grss1982
2006-09-03, 20:27
Damn!! So heartbraking.

Thanks for the writeups Guido & Carrie Asagiri. :lol:

Anyways, when is the next episode gonna air?

wrex_japan
2006-09-04, 03:59
I just watched and I'm agree with Guido about episode 21 wasthe most emotional distressing and heartbreaking. I cried in a lot of moments too.

When Masane woke up in her bed and sees the drawings made by Riko and started to say that she doesn't want to die, I couldn't help it but cry like hell. When she attempted to take off the Witchblade was a tense and touching scene, because her desesperation was terrible. And her look like an animal was terrible. Another scene very touching for me was when Tozawa started to almost cry when Takayama showed him the Witchblade data and explained him about Masane's fate. And of course the last scene, with the party. When Tozawa shots the pic with Masane and Riko, he said "Damned it!!". And after the ending credits, listening the preview made by Masane made me cloud my eyes again. She was asking to Riko to keep smiling because she loves to see Riko's smiling face and not crying T__T

Anyway, still crossing my fingers for the end...

My summary and screencaps of Witchblade 21. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=240) Yup, sad episode... so sad, that this show better have a happy ending!

Carrie Asagiri
2006-09-05, 08:07
Thanks as always wrex_japan for your summary. Your blog is my way to know if my nihongo level is okay XD. Let's see what will happen this week.

Guido
2006-09-06, 13:15
futaba release two nice sets of gratuitious screenies.


http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3868/cbsisterji4.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cbsisterji4.jpg)


She's the last CB sister featured in the ED video. From the looks of her anomalous white skin, razor-edged hair, and semi-rectangular eyes, she sounds bad-ass


And so it starts.... the beginning of the end...
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/8103/wbep22aii5.th.jpg (http://img330.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep22aii5.jpg)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1262/wbep22bet0.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wbep22bet0.jpg)

Carrie Asagiri
2006-09-07, 12:59
I just watched ep 22...of course I was crying in several moments...still crossing my fingers :(

Guido
2006-09-08, 00:53
If last week episode made you cry, this week will break your heart. :upset:


Masane takes just Riko with her to a picnic at the park. Amidst a meadow of lush colorful flowers, we're treated with Riko moe -ness playing with the dragonflies and the flowers.
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/6087/rikomoenesstm5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Masane cannot put into words to tell Riko she's going to pass away soon but cements her resolve by tenderly wrapping her arms around Riko and in a soothing, almost lullaby-like, motherly tone tells her that very soon she (Riko) will not be able to see her (Masane). However, she will never be or feel alone because mother will remain by her side forever watching her.
The tender moment is heightened with the correct choices of instrumental music: violins and flute symphony.

Riko does not understands what Masane tells her, until that beautiful moment of happy innocence frozen in time is savagely forced to end by the arrival of three IU-Weapons, which sole purpose is to retrieve the Witchblade.

Masane goes to the battlefield, but Tozawa catches in time to stop her. He tells Masane to forget and take Riko, then escape away out from the grasp of the people that want to hurt them both.

Even if Masane desperately wants to quit and run away with Riko, the thing inside her pumps this burning sensation that compels her to fight. She gives in, but not before telling Tozawa to take Riko with him and run.
Masane transforms into her standard Witchblade form and disappears in a trail of shadow; it is at that particular moment that Riko finally comprehends her mother's message- mother is going to die soon.
Tozawa hugs her, and then explosions ensue far away in the city. Riko bursts in tears, screaming for her mother feeling helpless to stop Masane's impending doom.

The three IU-Weapons prove to be tough dough to cook so WMasane releases all the power kept hidden inside her and in a brilliant stream of light she powers to her Ultimate Witchblade form in glorious Super Saiya-jin style.

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At NSWF, Maria and the CB sisters feels a rash and burning sensation surging through their Cloneblades. At Douji's lab facilities, the 300 I-Weapons instataneously activate giving signs to start going haywire. Takayama and his staff works at the edge of time to deactivate them. Due to the sudden behavior of the I-Weapons becoming nuts, he knows in his gut that Masane has again overpowered and feels the worst coming out.
Unable to further deactivate the defective units, Takayama and his team reprogram the I-Weapons so they will attack among themselves; all the I-Weapons at the lab waste each other and Takayama sighs in relief.

With difficulty little above average, UWMasane manages to skewer all IU-Weapons, but she feels more intensely her body burning and a fading sensation; the Witchblade is quickly corroding her as an invisible cancer.

Back Douji, Wado is nuts for another loss and is nearing the edge of sanity; he's not hearing Segawa's suggestion to make use of their deploy of I-Weapons at the facility labs. Segawa sighs in dissapointment that his current boss is hopeless.

Masane's condition has reached critical unstability where she randomly switches back and forth between her two Witchblade forms, sweating profusely, and panting with heavy breathing. She straightens herself and goes to where Riko is barely able to walk.


For the new CB sister.

Her name is Asagi and mostly reminds of Jo from BakuTen- in fact she's voiced by the same seiyuu that did Jo's voice, save that the former is more buxomed.

Her initial appearance quite suggest she's a loner that spaces out to her world and possessing an apathy of a personality for a carefree person not bound by manners or morals.
In fact, she's a heck of a fighter putting little to no effort on battles without wearing down.

Maria tested her when Aoi introduce Asagi to her (Maria) by shooting some tendrils at bullet-speed succession, which Asagi managed to instinctively dodge them and without even looking what's coming on her.

Maria was pleased and approved for Asagi to be upgraded as a Cloneblade. Asagi then started questioning Maria's motives why she (Maria) chose her (Asagi).

Maria responded that it was for mean to attain to the power she covets (the Witchblade). This reply awakened Asagi's interest with a malevolent smile and made mock of Maria. Asagi's insolence knocked out cold Maria's callous and indifferent composure, reverting her to a frightened child.

Aoi scold Asagi to better behave, but Asagi counters that doesn't matter how much of an adult that woman (Maria) pretends to be on the outside, because inside she's a spoiled child.


A pair of surprises.

The existence of WMasane and Douji manufacturing MD weapons was revealed to the public masses via a news broadcast.

Apparently, either Douji or NSWF leaked the video feedback of WMasane to the news station.

The city is at uproar that the police force started mobilization, and the citizens are refuging inside their home, shutting down their business.

The second surprise is that USA sea tanker in the middle of the Pacific is carrying a batch of I-Weapons that have activated out of the blue.


With how the episode went on this crisis has transformed into a race between two superpowers- Douji & NSWF- for the Witchblade with both Masane and Riko in the middle. However, there isn't a clear winner, rather the whole outcome remains ambiguous and the stage cloudy and foggy.

The uncertainty about who gets to play the final boss resembles somewhat the Blood+ scenario.
I cannot be sure or predict whose going to become the final big baddie- Nishida, Aoi, Wado, etc. ?

Guido
2006-09-08, 14:27
Sorry for double post!

The CD single for the second ED to Witchblade, "Piece" sung by Asami Yamamoto, is out.

chrno
2006-09-12, 14:43
Sorry for not being on the board in awhile. Been catching up on shows while being a LAY-Z ass. School is back on and my work load is piling up. Work not schoolwork, as I don't do school no more. :p :D

But first off I would like to give my deepest thoughts on that 'Maria' figure. "Doesn't she have the cutest ASS-CRACK you ever saw??? :D :D :D

Oh, and I love the comment talking about how she looks sexy and playful. I guess, but we're talking about a 16-17 year old 'Neo-gene' here! This ain't no f***kin 'Brittney Spears'!! Boy, I do miss the old 'Maria'. She shouldn't have given up the ass-kicking job.

I finally got around to (finally) watching 21 and later 22. Man oh man, did I really feel it. Of course ep. 22 didn't make things any better. Catch the symbolic use of the flowerbed afterwards. Her getting up and staggering home. Now that's a scene I haven't seen in awhile. Poor 'Rihoko'. GAWD, that so hurt! :upset: :upset: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Going back to ep. 21, one of my favorite scenes from the party is when 'Masane' calls for 'Rihoko' to come sit on her lap. Again the animation is on the average side. But I kind of like 'Masane's happy "wide-eyed" smile. Of course when the DVD version comes out they'll fix that shot. I'll miss it. But it's the look 'Rihoko' gives as she leans back while getting picked up. It's a subtle shot but it conveys a lot in the closeness between them. Then of course there is the shot where 'Masane' has her arm around 'Tozawa's neck. Her best buddy from the very beginning. It's like a HS reunion photo. Which makes me think back to the photo at the orphanage. More than likely 'Masane' was well liked among her peers. But again it also shows that 'Masane' does care a great deal about 'Tozawa'. Now I can see why many are pulling for a 'Masane x Tozawa' deal. To be honest they communicate rather well together. 'Masane' and the 2 "T's" in her life. :p But remember 'Naomi' did say that "happiness" will come to him in the future.

Oh, and I like 'Asagi'. I always had a thing for the rather silent, shy, highly observant, kick your ass types. DOESN'T ANYONE WEAR CLOTHES ANYMORE??? :p :p :D :D Yeah, she's got 'Maria's number. Basically, she said what I had been thinking all along. GAWD, I LOVE THIS SHOW!! IT MAKES ME THINK!! She doesn't seem to care all that much about the "wants" department. Just as long as she can have some fun she's in. But then again you never know what people are thinking when given a chance. 'NsWF' IS BEING RUN BY CHILDREN!!! And on that note 'NsWF' could very well be seeing it's end.

My speculations for the series Seems things are heating up for the last 2 episodes. Time is running out for 'Masane' yet she's still pulling through the mire despite all things. Looks like the past is beginning to repeat itself. And while 'Masane' is still giving herself to the 'WB' it's power is creating a "trigger" effect which is setting off every 'CB' and 'I-Weapon'. Basically, everything that was created from the 'WB' will now go back to it's source. Not only did it help to create this chaos 6 years ago, but it wants to finish where it left off. And in order to do so a contractor was needed. This is where 'Masane' comes in as the new bearer with the possibility of 'Rihoko'. While the idea of 'Rihoko' being a bearer was a theory, it's not impossible to rule out. As 'Guido' pointed out the 'WB' chose 'Masane' possibly for 'Rihoko' sake. Since 'Rihoko' couldn't wield it, (SHE WAS JUST A WIDDLE BABY) the task falls to someone that can be trusted.

If you look at this in another light 'Rihoko' and 'Masane' are both "innocents". Think of the 'WB' as a "god" in this case. A god of chaos, but neutral. It comes into existence and lets man poke at it. The whole time it laid dormant no one could equip it. Everyone that wanted it's power couldn't get it so they created the power by immitating it. Of course in the process it cut everyone down. Even innocent people when it sunk 'Tokyo'. It supports neither good nor evil. While it can be used for good it's still cursed as it drags it's contractor through hell. Like a coin, which ever side it falls on is what will be. It decides what it wants and whom it chooses.

Even when 'Reina' had it in her possesion, though they believed that she was compatible that didn't mean she was. After all she's part of this mess too. It chose 'Masane' because while she too is tied to this whole ordeal, she didn't ask to be a bearer. But she didn't want to die either. Who knew what she might have been thinking when she came across 'Rihoko'. Again we still don't really know if it chose 'Masane' because of 'Rihoko' or not. Even with the whole deal in ep. 20 with it trying to go after 'Rihoko' in the car. The only reason that happened was because 'Masane' refused to fight in front of her. In a way it was like it was "goading" her. And everything afterwards, it would not allow itself to be gotten rid of so easily.

It started with 'Masane' and it's going to finish with her. That's why I believe the 'WB' wants to be back in this mess so it can strike up some chaos once more. If 'Masane' should fall then the task may fall to 'Rihoko'. But again this is where the theme of a "mother's love" comes into play. 'Masane' is willing to sacrifice herself so that 'Rihoko' doesn't have to carry this burden. In the meantime, 'Masane' wants to continue living not so much for herself but for 'Rihoko'. As to whether that will happen all depends on whether the matter at hand CAN be or WILL be resolved.

What will the reward be at the end? Will the 'WB' spare 'Masane'? Will it spare 'Rihoko? I believe that the 'WB' will probably consume 'Masane' once this ordeal is over. Keep in mind that while the 'WB' takes life it can give life. Either that or 'Rihoko's love is stronger than anything the 'WB' can dish out. Even 'Reina' is reaching beyond the grave to guide 'Maria'.

I stopped over to the official site and they finally updated the character section. They also added the upgrades for 'WBMasane' and 'CBShiori'. I tell you man, what the F**K was 'Makoto-san thinking when he came up with 'Shiori's 2nd form? It makes no DAMN sense! I can think of a "bat" but it's the ugliest design EVER!!! Her 'CB' form was SOOooo much better. SEE don't give up the day job. 'Maria', I can't think of what the hell she is. Gremilin? Usagi? Usagi-Gremilin? And that "ahoge" gets sillier ever time the artist draws it. Just check it out in the ending. The only ones they haven't added yet are 'Aoi' and 'Asagi'. I guess they'll come after the show is finished. Hell, they even added 'Wado'. I hope something gets stuck up his ass and it has a nice point on the end. Now the only person missing is 'Nishida'. But are we going to add everyone? They also added 'Masane's 2nd form. They call it the "Powered-UP version." Same as 'Shiori's 2nd form. I had been waiting for a chance to really take a good look at it. And I was right. The design is still similar to the old one with slight differences. The one noticeable difference is that the areas around the legs that were bare are now covered. But skin is still exposed in certain areas. And remember what I said about the tufts of hair on her head? That they look "wolf-like"? I couldn't be far from the truth. I wondered if the artist was inspired by the new game 'Okami' that just came out by 'Capcom' . Which features the goddess 'Amaterasu' as a "white" wolf with "red" markings. If you look at the design for the 'WB' armor it's "red" with "white" trimmings. Her hair or mane once "red" is now "white" or "silver". Those 2 colors are very symbolic in Japanese society. Representing "celebrations" and possibly "renewal". After looking over the design more thoroughly and then watching ep. 22 my mind started churning. I feel that we might get a happy ending after all. Only 2 more ep. till the end.

DVD volumes and who's on the cover. Ok, so far we got 'Masane' and 'Rihoko' on vol. 1, and 'Tozawa' and 'Rihoko' on vol. 2 with 'CBShiori' on the slipcase. For vol. 3 we got 'CBShiori' and 'Reina' on the cover with 'CBReina's on the slipcase. I'm going to guess that 'CBNora' will end up on the slipcase for vol. 4 and 'DBMaria' for vol. 5. I'm guessing according to the episodes featured. Now I'm wondering if there is going to be a cover that reflects ep. 16. Since, ep. 17 and 18 are more story driven and not much fun I figured they'll spark up vol. 6 with 'Masane' wearing her swimsuit on the cover. That was the "fanservice" ep. It would definitely be a keeper to all the 'Masane' fans out there. If they do manage to do one I'll fall out of my chair laughing and screaming. :p :p :D :D

Now c'mon garage folks, you know you want to do a 'Masane' swimsuit figure. But who will be brave enough to take on the challenge of handling 'Masane's SUPER-AWESOME-DYNAMITE BODY???" :eyespin:

Guido
2006-09-12, 18:26
Been to the official web, and they have updated the story section with episode 23's entry and screenshot pics.

The title: (乱) Ran, Disturbance.


Those 2 colors are very symbolic in Japanese society. Representing "celebrations" and possibly "renewal". After looking it over the design more thoroughly and then watching ep. 22 my mind started churning. I feel that we might get a happy ending after all. Only 2 more ep. till the end.


There's a huge possibility for a happy ending.

A most likely title for episode 24- (光) Hikari, Light.

The name for the last episode's title alone delivers us some hope for Masane and Riko.

chrno
2006-09-12, 21:42
Been to the official web, and they have updated the story section with episode 23's entry and screenshot pics.

The title: (乱) Ran, Disturbance.



There's a huge possibility for a happy ending.

A most likely title for episode 24- (光) Hikari, Light.

The name for the last episode's title alone delivers us some hope for Masane and Riko.

You're thinking like I am. Hahaha! :D :D I stopped over there earlier myself to check to see what they posted for ep. 23 and I saw the shots. Looks like things will be taking off since there is only one ep. to go. I was soooo hoping for them to air a full hour. :( Oh well. ;) CBC's site hasn't updated anything. They only have one pic. for ep. 23. Not to mention they haven't added anything extra to the character section yet. Yes, folks doing site work takes time. Looks like I'll be doing the usual countdown tomorrow afternoon. Of course that won't do anything for me until I see the ep.

Yep that end title says it all. I read that on 'ANN' but didn't pay it any mind for some reason. Gah, where does my mind go? Well, between the ED song 'Ashita no te' for the first half and 'Pieces' for the second need we say anymore? :) But let's see what they pull out of their hats this run. Now my question is since this is the first to the last ep. will the use the budget? :p :p That's usually the case when you get to the end of a long series. Hmmm....???

Guido
2006-09-13, 18:32
C'mon people, next week is the series finale.:( :mad: :upset: :frustrated: :eyespin: :)

I'm letting chrno, wrex_japan, JShaggy, or someone else at this thread to take care of the initial reviews for this week's episode.

Release pics

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And I was right!

The title for the last episode's series finale looks to be 'Hikari' (Light), judging from the last preview pic.
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Those photos of Masane and Riko lying around make me uneasy and restless.

rpgman1
2006-09-13, 22:15
So I was right that Witchblade would end at 24 episodes. Man I wish I knew Japanese. My brother did but he never put the language to use.

xizro345
2006-09-14, 02:53
To say I was disappointed in this episode it would be an understatement. I really fear for a crappy ending now, due to only one episode left.

MrProphet
2006-09-14, 18:55
The ending is getting worse and worse...

The Riko/Masane side is just too sappy and soap-operish for my taste. The reaction of the Mary's Gallery denizens was just stupid.

I can't believe someone as permanently hysterical as Wado could have risen so high. Why is this guy screaming like a high-school girl on crack all the time?

And to say that Maria has been doing absolutely nothing since killing Furimizu would be an understatement indeed. All she's been doing is brooding. What a waste of potential action...

Guido
2006-09-15, 00:40
Just as what the title for my review to episode 23 says it, the apocalypse has started and there is only Masane and Takayama to avert it.

A third consecutive episode that delivers powerful, family drama and heartbreaking moments almost to the point of crying out loud.

The animation staff did a well job as to build momentum, suspense, tension, madness, and tenderness for the upcoming doom that befalls and how Masane and Riko spent what seemingly are her last family hours with a peaceful dinner.

The Takayama we saw way past from the very first episode is back but with an added edge; he's now fighting for two precious people, his newly-found family.
Masane and him we're able to make communication via the cellphone and notified her of the pending disaster. He's going to do his part on the battle, and she will also for making a better world for Riko; he says she should take care and watch over the Witchblade, since she's now at the limit.
Masane's confident that her body still can make it, and as a nice treat to the audience she teasingly asks, "what are your instructions, boss?":p


To make the long story short:

-Masane arrives at Marry's Gallery in her Powered-UP Witchblade form, scaring the beejezus out of Mariko, Naomi, Cho-san, and Michael. Fortunately, Riko greets her with a welcome back, and she reverts to Normal Witchblade form then to human form before the astonished crowd.
While Riko's making dinner and Masane's resting, the Witchblade starts giving flashes making the I-Weapons in the sea tanker go mad and escape. The news quickly carry throughout Tokyo and evacuation starts.
Wado's gone nuts and seems a lost hopper, so in order to save Douji and his image he gives in to contact Takayama for help, swallowing his pride. Segawa crosses over to Takayama's side now that Wado's done for.

Three-thousand I-Weapons are heading to Tokyo from five different convergence points. Their target the Witchblade. Takayama leaves with Segawa and his staff, as they will set the battlefield with the remaining I-Weapons that were able to reprogram successfully.

At Marry's Gallery, everyone's packed and see Masane who entrusts Riko's care to Tozawa. Before she's parting, Naomi snaps and tearfully asks Masane to take care; Mariko follows that Masane should make sure to return back; Cho-san bids farewell in tears; Masane thanks everyone.

Off she goes feeling the first wave of I-Weapons now turned Ex-cons has hit shore and advance into the almost-deserted city. Masane transforms into Witchblade forms and episode ends in cliffhanger with WMasane shouting that the fight has begun....


I'm fearful that we might get a Black Cat ending. I mean I'm also complaining that Maria and NSWF spent the last six episodes virtually doing nothing to attempt for the Witchblade, since Furimizu's demise.

Nishida too has been just the scientific observer marveling at the WitchBlade's full potential. wrex_japan jokingly dubbed her in his blog, that she's the same as Amschel from Blood+. Both lusting for scientific knowledge regardless of morals and not tied to sentimentality, but the differences lie that unlike Amschel, Nishida has no real power yet.
I wonder if she's actually going to get away scot-free with the Witchblade in tow at the end, doubling crossing Maria?

What's certain that Wado's been a bad player and did not develop into a serious threat, except for the couple of times when he dispatched Yagi and IU-Weapons to get Tozawa's life and the Witchblade from Masane.
Taking those aside, he's just a lost cause- a buffoon, a puny, an airheaded high-schooler, the guy without pants on. I'm surprised that a personality-wise weak character like him will get to make it at the last episode, however, that's far he's going to come.
I'll bet he's going to snap in madness at the end and will cause his own death on himself, or better yet his whole image and prestigious life would be ruined, ending up as a pathetic bummer living in poverty; one thing for certain is that he's out of the game.

That will leave Nishida and Maria, considering that the coming apocalypse would be just an appetitizer for PPWMasane. I'm just pondering how will the animation staff is going to develop the series finale to give momentum for the upcoming fights against Maria and her CB sisters.
GONZO better make an effort just like J.C. staff did for the series finale to Shakugan no Shana's last episode, granting enough time to each of the individual fights.

X Black Cat ending :frustrated: NO!!

GONZO, please don't ruin the ending to Witchblade.

BTW, there were no voices for the last episode's preview save for Masane's voice saying, "I love you, Riko".

TougeSil80
2006-09-15, 13:08
It's a good ep, Masane in the white hair (ultimate) form was cool. But she doesn't know how to be a parent at all. You don't tell your daughter you're about to die, you leave a note or something to Takayama or Tozawa so he can give it to Riko after you die. Oh well, only 2 more eps to go, I'm interested in seeing how it would end.

And one question, did Wado purposely removed the iWeapon's safety program? Or is it because Masane's power is so strong that even with the safety program the iWeapons are still affected?

chrno
2006-09-15, 13:26
Good work on the summary Guido! :) I couldn't have worded things better myself.

This was a pretty decent episode, though I feel the tension drawing. Though I can't help that 'Maria' and company are driving around like a bunch of rebellious teens. See I was right, I told you she was gathering a "posse". 'Chick-Baby', 'Finga-Bitz', and 'Crazy Angel' . Hopefully, they'll get a chance to get to the action and make the episode SWEET! If not I'll throw a brick through 'Gonzo's window saying,

"BAKA!!!"

Oh, actually it's 300 I-Weapons (sanbyaku). While that's still a massive number 3000 would be the end of the world in the 'WB' universe. You have to admire 'Rihoko's spirit. She realizes that her mother is the greatest person in the whole wide world.

".................................................. ...........Rihoko....aishitteru."

Talk about a cliffhanger.

chrno
2006-09-15, 13:51
It's a good ep, Masane in the white hair (ultimate) form was cool. But she doesn't know how to be a parent at all. You don't tell your daughter you're about to die, you leave a note or something to Takayama or Tozawa so he can give it to Riko after you die. Oh well, only 2 more eps to go, I'm interested in seeing how it would end.

Yeah that's true. But then again there are a lot of people in this show that had problems being a proper parent. Even 'Reina'. But if you sit down and really analyze the characters for who they are you'll get a better understanding. Depending on how well they are fleshed out. If anything 'Masane' did the best she could in handling the matter. She's not perfect. Why else would 'Rihoko' tell the welfare agent that her mom needs her. :p Also, the whole deal with 'Masane' going out and buying the book and making the lunch shows you that she tried to handling things on her own as best she could. ;)

And one question, did Wado purposely removed the iWeapon's safety program? Or is it because Masane's power is so strong that even with the safety program the iWeapons are still affected?

Yes, he did. The whole matter was him trying to acquire the 'WB' while working with 'Nishida'. He's a crazy, desperate, idiot. They were all set to "acquire" and "retrieve". 'More than likely, the problem with the 'I-Weapons' could be a combination of both. Which makes it easier and BAD. 'Takayama' and company worked to deactive the remaining ones in holding. Even though they succeeded to some degree the 'WB's power still caused many of them to malfunction. So in other words it wouldn't have mattered either way. Let's not forget the tugboat carrying a batch. The power is drawing them back. Keep in mind that both the 'CB' and 'I-Weapons' are created from the same source - the 'Witchblade'. So basically the chaos begins again with the 'WB' wanting to wreak havok on this whole ordeal once more.

TougeSil80
2006-09-15, 13:55
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Yeah that's true. But then again there are a lot of people in this show that had problems being a proper parent. Even 'Reina'. But if you sit down and really analyze the characters for who they are you'll get a better understanding. Depending on how well they are fleshed out. If anything 'Masane' did the best she could in handling the matter. She's not perfect. Why else would 'Rihoko' tell the welfare agent that her mom needs her. :p Also, the whole deal with 'Masane' going out and buying the book and making the lunch shows you that she tried to handling things on her own as best she could. ;)



Yes, he did. The whole matter was him trying to acquire the 'WB' while working with 'Nishida'. He's a crazy, desperate, idiot. They were all set to "acquire" and "retrieve". 'More than likely, the problem with the 'I-Weapons' could be a combination of both. Which makes it easier and BAD. 'Takayama' and company worked to deactive the remaining ones in holding. Even though they succeeded to some degree the 'WB's power still caused many of them to malfunction. So in other words it wouldn't have mattered either way. Let's not forget the tugboat carrying a batch. The power is drawing them back. Keep in mind that both the 'CB' and 'I-Weapons' are created from the same source - the 'Witchblade'. So basically the chaos begins again with the 'WB' wanting to wreak havok on this whole ordeal once more.

Thanks for the explanation. :D

MrProphet
2006-09-15, 18:55
It's not 300.

They said: sanzenhappyaku. Meaning, 3800.

chrno
2006-09-15, 22:27
It's not 300.

They said: sanzenhappyaku. Meaning, 3800.

Ah, ok my bad. Ok, that's BAD. I knew I heard something "???yaku". Carry on. :p :heh:

Well, the good news is that 'wrex_japan' will try and get the full details in on 'Monday'. Japan time of course. :)

Guido
2006-09-16, 09:23
It's not 300.

They said: sanzenhappyaku. Meaning, 3800.

Well, I too was wrong with the interpretation of the number, but I got it close.

My interpretation was 3000.

BTW, chrno is right about the Witchblade returning everyone and everything back to the beginning where all the mess started. Would we get to see history repeating itself again?

Certainly, since jokingly I may say that the Witchblade's temperamental for all those produced carbon copies and manufactured toys running berserk and do what they please; and worse since those I-Weapons and Cloneblades came from the Witchblade and it deems all of them as thrash.

chrno
2006-09-17, 10:29
Well, I too was wrong with the interpretation of the number, but I got it close.

My interpretation was 3000.

BTW, chrno is right about the Witchblade returning everyone and everything back to the beginning where all the mess started. Would we get to see history repeating itself again?

Certainly, since jokingly I may say that the Witchblade's temperamental for all those produced carbon copies and manufactured toys running berserk and do what they please; and worse since those I-Weapons and Cloneblades came from the Witchblade and it deems all of them as thrash.

Watching that ep. again, and hearing sanzenhappyaku, made me shudder. <shudder-shudder> Then I watch another show and they mention that number too. Funny this always happens to me. Well, at lease I'm getting my daily dose of "today's word is..."

Well, hey remember back to ep. 4 when 'Reina' and 'Shiori' showed up? They were talking down to 'Masane' and she got pissed off. Hell, it's like the 'WB' was probably thinking, "how dare they talk about ME like that." Of course it doesn't help that 'Masane' has a temper of her own. Other than that she's quite the gentle type. :p

Oh, the show has got me thinking again only this time on a funny note. I kept noticing how much 'Masane' loves 'Rihoko's cooking. For a 6-year old kid she's quite the cooking connoisseur. Nothing like a little fan pandering of lolis who can cook. Well, for some reason I couldn't stop thinking about that old 1970's commercial with O.J. Simpson. Yes, folks before he became a known fellon. It's an old PSA for eating a good breakfast. The scripting for it is pretty funny. But for some reason I had combined some images in mind of 'WBMasane' and the dialogue from the PSA. For some reason it actually worked. Considering that the 'WB' does eat up a lot of energy. But 'Rihoko's food always does 'Masane' wonders. :p :D :D

And for a music video idea, we try and find the right images to put to the song "I Feel Good" by 'James Brown'. That one would work! Or we can find every big butt shot and put it to 'Sir Mix-Alot's "Baby Got Back!" Now, that's a video I want to see! Hahahahaha!! :D :D :D :p The only reason why I thought of that is because there was this shot toward the end of ep. 4 where 'Masane's communicator goes off in her pants pocket. It was like this sudden jump back to the frame when the device went off. And her butt was superimposed against the TV screen. Like "MASAKA, THE COMMUNICATOR!!" More like ACTION-ASS!! <echo-echo>

It just goes to show you what you catch going back to stuff you haven't watched in awhile.

Ok, what can I say I'm nuts. :p

On another note I went back to ep. 7. While we got some insight to that ep based on 'wrex_japan's blog, I had the opportunity to see a full translation that gave a deeper look into the conversation that went on between 'Takayama' and 'Masane' on the boat. As we remember the whole deal with 'Masane' confronting 'Takayama' about the pic. 'Masane' recognizes the woman as 'Lady' from the night before. She wants 'Takayama' to tell her whats going on as she won't feel right about doing her job if there is something being hidden. And he explains the matter to 'Masane' without a problem. He mentions that she was a 'Neo-gene' sent from 'NsWF' to work on the project. He also goes on marveling about meeting such a person wth uncanny abilities that surpass that of any normal person. As 'Reina' proved to be both smart and attractive. If you pay attention to the scene where he's watching her work at her computer that is the clue to their "involvement". After he mentions this 'Masane' comments that she would have never thought that 'Takayama', (considering his serious and tight-suit manner) being capable of a romance. Of course, answers in a manner that is 'Takayama' about not thinking it was much of a relationship, as he mentions that 'Reina' was only interested in the "type of relationships that are between a man and a woman". Again another clue. And with everything that happens afterward, there was a feeling of "betrayal". Which was something I had thought about as ther series progressed. He explains about her disappearing with the 'WB'. This was right after they found out that she had a compatibility with it. By this time he mentions that there was mention of pulling her off the project due to that reason. As they didn't trust her.

The only thing that isn't mentioned in the translation is about the child. As 'Takayama' continues with the story he does not mention about the child. We see her with the child as he narrates but there is no mention of it. We don't start hearing him talk about it until ep. later. Again this gives some further proof into 'Rihoko's parentage. More than likely, 'Takayama' knew but he wasn't going to talk about it as it was a lost cause. So in a way you can also look at this as further betrayal. The whole idea of being attracted to someone you're working with, and then they betray you. Then the possibility that the child she was carrying when she disappeared might be yours. So of course by an odd twist of fate those things came back through 'Masane'. While she may not have had all the clues she kept the pieces to the puzzle in the back of her mind and began piecing them together on her own. That's why when ep. 14 rolled around he never denied that the possibility that 'Rihoko' was his. But again he wasn't sure considering what we know about 'NsWF'. Or even about 'Reina'. He wasn't sure if he wanted to be a parent. Not because he didn't want to be one, but because he didn't know how. And also, trying to relate to your child after some 6 years is a long time. He didn't want to burden her with that shock. But in the end he was ready to take that step. Because deep down he probably always knew but kept those emotions bottled up. After experiencing love for what it was worth he started becoming a better person. Not that he wasn't already. ;)

Oh and as for 'Shiori', I finally got a good look at that scene with her doing the dirty with some poor fellow. I heard it being mentioned but I could never spot it as that scene is very dark in some areas. Then I saw the guy's legs. Yes, folks 'Shiori' has now given depth to the meaning of being "F***ED to death". She was horny enough, but add some immitation 'WB' and you got the making of a SUPER-NYMPHO. Men beware! :twitch:

Got a chance to look into ep. 6 for the DVD version. I found some interesting things that we never saw. Remember that whole deal with 'Masane' being placed in the van? Well, when they were applying sealant on her chest wound one of the aids was holding her breasts together. Oh and there was the whole 'Shiori' touching, brushing...no more like rubbing 'Reina's butt. Now we know the reason why she was kissing and licking that hand. I guess the 'WB' does make you a little.... Hey, 'JShaggy' you should post a pic of that. :p

chrno
2006-09-17, 16:11
Now onward to the action and my first fave:
Comparison between DVD version vol. 1, ep. 3 –vs- TV version ep. 3

Here we are now at episode 3 where our second dose of action starts.

In this sequence we have the showdown between ‘WBMasane’ and the ‘I-Weapon at ‘Takayama’s test lab. This is the first of two action sequences that takes place this episode. Most of the shots while ranging from average to good weren’t changed as much. With the exception of cleaning up some images and enhancing color resolution the staff probably didn’t feel the need to fix every little detail unless necessary. Some in-between frames remain untouched as they go by so quickly that it doesn’t really matter whether they are well drawn or not. If the scene is good enough getting from point “A” to point “B” without worrying about what’s in between that’s all that matters. Shots are clearer as you can see what’s going on.

I hate to say this but the “skin” version makes a difference in the fact that you can pin-point where ‘WBMasane’ is during the fight as many of the scenes feature dark areas. With the “edited” version the gray coloring against the gray armor makes it hard to see. For example:

Again only if you’re interested.
-When ‘WBMasane chops off the I-Weapon’s cannon, it begins strafing the ground in her direction. During this sequence she can be seen crouching next to the leftover cannon. Though the scene is somewhat dark due to minimal lighting in that area you can SEE her. In the TV version you cannot see her as clearly because the gray colorization on her body aside from her armor (“edit”) makes it so. (0:04:34 –vs- 0:04:24)

-HAULING ASS, ‘WBMASANE’ STYLE!: I had slight issues with this one in the beginning but later on I found it hilarious at times.

-Sequences takes place right after ‘WBMasane’ quickly dodges the attack. In these shots she’s quickly running through the battlefield while dodging the bullets. The scene isn’t bad mind you, but it is a tad funny. As her legs and arms are moving very fast. It’s like looking at a sped up version of something moving fast. DVD version redid the whole sequence.

First off they blurred the screens creating the effect of speed. Then they gave ‘WBMasane’ longer strides. Combine some full range motion with her upper body and arms, throw in a very smug look on her face and you get that feeling of “CATCH ME IF YOU CAN SUCKA!!!” Also, ‘WBMasane’ was reduced in scale against the backgrounds to give the feel that the area is larger and more spacious. TV version is somewhat scaled but because of the way the scene presents itself it’s hard get the same feeling. (4:35-:38 –vs- 0:04:28)

Again all sequences after this are cleaned up in the DVD version. Fixing facial shots, smoothing edges and enhancing colors.

-Scene where X-CON (Type-EM) brother appears in marketplace. People moving around in background and foreground changed completely between both versions.

-Older man with backpack in TV version becomes younger man with backpack in DVD version.
-Man who looks to be wearing flight trousers with a scarf in TV version becomes businessman with a briefcase in DVD version.
-Male passerby in TV version gets new shoulder bag and a makeover in DVD version.
-Woman in TV version who you can’t see carrying something due to aspect ratio gets a fashion makeover in DVD version. (0:08:30-:38 –vs- 0:08:20-:28)

-Again people in background redone. This is the scene where ‘Riko’ is heading through the marketplace.
-Guy that looks like a baker turns into “just looking” man with a bag in DVD version.
-Woman who looks like she’s standing around in TV version turns into shop hostess with full apron regalia in DVD version.
At the same time ‘Riko’ bumps into passerby. Her eyes are open like she was brain fried and wasn’t affected. DVD version corrects scene by showing ‘Riko’ really having a collision with this passerby’s groin. Eyes close from the impact. (0:08:40 –vs- 0:08:30)

I WOULDN’T TRUST HER WITH MY KID!
Pickpocket woman that catches ‘Riko’ before she falls looks like a sweet and helpful woman in the TV version. In the DVD version she looks like a child molestor. Again shots after wards are cleaned up. Woman still looks kind and friendly in a very worn out way. DVD version present a cleaned up version of her FAKE warmth. Again characters in background get color changes in their clothes. Woman’s green dress becomes a natural color. :( (0:08:42- –vs- 0:08:32)

-IF THE CIGARETTES DON’T KILL YOU THE FOSSIL FUEL WILL:
Scene where ‘Mariko’ threatens ‘Tozawa’ to go out and find ‘Riko’. He drives off leaving ‘Mariko’ in the garage to eat his dust. TV version shows slight carbon monoxide clouds lingering in the air. Darker and more outlined. DVD version changes this scene making the fumes numerous and more full going from dark to light as they dissipate. (0:09:19 –vs- 0:09:09)

-Scene where ‘Riko’ tries to buy a ticket for the ferry at the ticket booth. Guy in background trades in his white trench coat in TV version for a blue one in the DVD version. (0:10:16 –vs- 0:10:06)

-Scene where ‘Riko’ finds out she’s been robbed. THAT DIRTY RAT! Shot where she’s talking to the ticket agent; stuff on the wall in the background makes boot look run down. Ticket window features left over tape residue. Not to mention stuff on walls have nothing to do with travel. DVD version corrects this by adding fare charts and schedules. Not to mention a picture of the ferry people will be riding. Man talk about a change! :D (0:10:25 –vs- 0:10:15)

-IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY: Shot of ‘Riko’s expression when she can’t board the ferry. Facial shot was redone to convey a more saddened expression in the DVD version. It makes you really feel her pain about not being able to get to ‘Tokyo Tower’. Not that you didn’t feel it before but it’s worse. DAMN GONZO!
Again “extras” in the background changed. Guy with trench coat in TV version becomes guy with backpack and cap in DVD version. (0:10:38 –vs- 0:10:28)

-The boatman’s dog comes to the rescue. Though he looks a little on the awkward and stubby side with a BIG FRICKIN’ round head. The shot following gives you a nice detailed head shot but the body is still out of proportion. It’s like cutting and pasting two different things together. DVD version presents him in all his robust and doggy glory. Also, people in background get color changes to their clothes. Guy in yellow shirt becomes blue. Guy in white trench coat becomes dark blue. Again shots cleaned up. (0:10:41-:48 –vs- 0:10:31-:38)

For those of you curious the boatman’s dog is type of mastiff breed that’s native only to Japan.

-Objects in the rear view mirror are larger than they appear:
Scene where ‘Riko’ is talking to the boatman while his dog stands next to her; both shots are similar but with slight changes. DVD version features an enlarged closer image of dog with a reduced image of ‘Riko’. This gives the feeling of how large ‘wan-chan’ (now Bunta-kun) is in comparison to ‘Riko’. Whereas, the TV broadcast features a reversed version of the same shot. If you look closely both shots are almost practically identical in their positioning on the backgrounds. While ‘Riko’s face was cleaned up in this shot the dog’s features remained practically unchanged but smoothed out and slicked up. (0:12:10 –vs- 0:12:00)

-Inside Marry’s Bar again. Scene where ‘Child Welfare’ agent speaks with ‘Mariko’ about Riko’s whereabouts. Shot behind the counter shows bottles that look like metallic glasses. No lighting makes them look unidentifiable. You can’t tell if they’re liquor bottles or glasses. ‘Tozawa’s picture located on far end of last shelf (far left)). Potted fern missing from wall area near the counter. DVD version features overhead lighting illuminating the counter. Bottles on shelves are clearly visible. Picture situated slightly off center on last shelf (right) allowing some of the bottles situated there to be seen. Potted fern added. Again these are two separate painted backgrounds that get used between the 2 versions. (0:12:19 –vs- 0:12:09)

-Scene where agent scolds ‘Mariko’. Background shot behind bar features various bottles on top shelf and drinking glasses on lower shelf. DVD version features organized bottles up top and drinking glasses on bottom. You can see picture. Again these backgrounds are different. So different in fact that they almost never stay consistent no matter which version you’re watching. The only thing that stays the same is unorganized bottles in the TV version and organized in the DVD version. (0:12:38 –vs- 0:12:28)

All shots after this and leading up to the 2nd fight with ‘WBMasane’ remain unchanged but corrected.

-Scenes where ‘WBMasane’ appears on top of the building before engaging the ‘X-CON’ redone. Where she looked too crude and her breasts look like 2 freakishly HUGE "melons" has been slicked up in the DVD version. Still busty but less freakish. (0:18:28-:33 –vs- 0:18:18-:23)

-‘WBMasane’s sword forms from blade hand and morphs to full length. In TV version blade just comes out but doesn’t morph. The way it was drawn out makes it look like a separate piece. (0:18:41 –vs- 0:18:31)

-Scenes where X-CON tries to fry ‘WBMasane’, lighting and shadows off in places. Corrected in DVD version. X-CONs 3 red lights are lit up. Red lights are set against a black panel. TV version missing color on panel. Shot where ‘X-CON’ can be seen over edge of building, lighting from the ‘X-CON’s back bulbs illuminate the side of the building. TV version doesn’t present such lighting. Despite how bright the bulbs are glowing, side of building remains pitch black. (0:19:07-:12 –vs- 0:18:57-0:19:02)

I NEED A BIGGER OFFICE YO! :
-Shot of ‘Reina’ sitting in her office on the phone with ‘Takayama’. Shots for both TV and DVD versions use almost identical backgrounds. But with slight differences. TV version features ‘Reina’ slightly positioned away from her desk. Chair is lined up with corner of wall. DVD version features ‘Reina’ positioned correctly behind desk. Chair is not lined up with wall’s corner. In fact she’s lined up with the 11th blind. In TV version she’s just lining up the 11th blind. Desk has more depth to it. You can see the 2nd portion which is lower than the main piece. This gives the impression that the desk is longer as it comes out more. In TV version desk looks higher and smaller. You can barely see the extra portion. Both versions have the same plant and lamp in the background. In TV version plant stands out. DVD version has plant blurred out a bit bringing it more to the foreground. Picture on wall which is positioned behind the lamp can be clearly seen. TV version has no picture on wall.

Everything mentioned relates to a perspective issue where changes in the positioning of characters and objects can make or change the layout of a room. The wall, behind ‘Reina’ in the TV version is angled more toward 88 degrees. This makes the office look small in size or cramped. In the DVD version the wall is more on a 90 degree angle and facing us. This makes her office look more spacious from the plant all the way to the back wall. And because more can be seen in DVD version we can see ‘Reina’s computer screen. (0:21:39 –vs- 0:21:29)

Once again from the analysis it proves that the DVD version is superior, however after looking over this volume and vol. 2, ep. 4-6 I found that many shots don’t always get changed. If they did that then they might as well redo everything. Many facial shots I’ve viewed were left unchanged but often times the shadows were removed. And in some cases, (in my honest opinion) there were some scenes that I found were better AS-IS when compared to the changes in the DVD version. So it’s really more of a mixed bag. Again we’re not talking about a movie here we’re talking about a TV show. TV shows don’t get the type of budget an OVA gets or movie gets. But the good thing is that it still looks great for what they are doing for the DVD.

I won’t be doing anymore analysis like these as I find it would be more interesting with pics. But I wanted to finish this one as I would feel bad for not completing something I started. I will still be following the DVD versions as they become available. The next episodes I will be looking into will be 7, 10-16 and 19-24. I would like to request from ‘JShaggy’ that should you manage to acquire images for ep. 7 to please post the "jacked-up, busted" shots from the boat fight. As this episode has some of the worse animated if not hilarious scenes ever. It’s another fave of mine. :D :D That’s it.

Carrie Asagiri
2006-09-17, 19:07
Since I spent the last 4 days on bed due to a flue, I could watch ep 23 rigtht now.
As it was mentioned in previous posts, I felt pretty dissapointed about Maria and her friends doing nothing. When Asagi was introduced, I thought she was going to have a more important role.
Anyway, the whole tension and drama was increasing, and as I've been saying since a long time, I'm still crossing my fingers.
Masane's words in the preview of ep 24 "Riko...aishiteru" gave me the creeps x_x.

wrex_japan
2006-09-18, 10:29
Since I spent the last 4 days on bed due to a flue, I could watch ep 23 rigtht now.
As it was mentioned in previous posts, I felt pretty dissapointed about Maria and her friends doing nothing. When Asagi was introduced, I thought she was going to have a more important role.
Anyway, the whole tension and drama was increasing, and as I've been saying since a long time, I'm still crossing my fingers.
Masane's words in the preview of ep 24 "Riko...aishiteru" gave me the creeps x_x.

Ep. 24 summary and screencaps. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=248) I'm hoping the "Aishiteiru" (I love you) to Rihoko is just to throw us off... I'm really hoping for a happy ending... and I hope they can pull it off convincingly.

chrno
2006-09-18, 15:55
Since I spent the last 4 days on bed due to a flue, I could watch ep 23 rigtht now.
As it was mentioned in previous posts, I felt pretty dissapointed about Maria and her friends doing nothing. When Asagi was introduced, I thought she was going to have a more important role.
Anyway, the whole tension and drama was increasing, and as I've been saying since a long time, I'm still crossing my fingers.
Masane's words in the preview of ep 24 "Riko...aishiteru" gave me the creeps x_x.

Welcome back, hope you're feeling better. :)

Yeah, I was on pins and needles too with 'Masane' trudging around. What was kept hidden for so long is now being revealed. Again the 'WB' will allow no one to get in the way of the bearer. But y'know the whole gathering scene was really saddening. I mean when you look back episodes ago. 'Masane' never really had a life where she "belonged". These are the most odd nit group of individuals and yet they are closer than family that is "blood" related. That whole sequence made me think back to how she felt when she was under 'NsWF' watch. Again look at her past. Despite, having peers at one time...she never really had this kind of warmth or concern. And that whole deal with her on the communicator with 'Reiji' was very touching as well. It shows you how far they've come since the show started.

There might just be light at the end of the tunnel. Well, again that all depends on how you look at it. ;)

I guess the "SISTAS" will get to the action soon enough. But can they take on whatever portion comes from the 3,800?

'Wado' is crying mommy, mommy'. Guess he can get a good job as a sanitation worker. Provided there's anything left to clean. As for 'Nishida', she's looking at the pretty colors. I guess if s**t blows up the last thing she'll remember was how MARVELOUS the bearer was. Oh well. wrex_japan referred her to being like 'Julia' from 'Blood+. Maybe so but at least 'Julia' knew when to get out when s**t hit the fan. "Don't worry be happy." :p

And yes, the whole "Riko...aishiteru." deal made me tense. :( :( :sad:

I'm telling you 'Gonzo' better pull out the action and a happy ending.

chrno
2006-09-20, 10:40
Well, looks like this is it. The final showdown.

Just went over to the official site and they already have the screen shots up for ep. 24. Mind you it doesn't give away anything. Which is they way you want it. But it looks as if we'll get the chance to see the 'SISTAS' in their 'DB' forms.

This whole ordeal takes us back to the first ED, where 'Rihoko' waits for 'Masane' to return.

You should check out some of the Japanese blog boards. I wish I could read Japanese more thoroughly, but I do pretty good for someone who's never taken a class. But apparently theyv'e been feeling the same way about ep. 23. I often find it interesting how similar the blogs are to our comments and blogs about the whole deal.

Well, this episode will decide whether 'Gonzo' lives up to their end of the bargain. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed and refraining from looking at any images until I see the episode. :p

Guido
2006-09-20, 14:12
NOTICE. To those who have not seen the series finale then please refrain from clicking the spoiler tags, until you have the episode.

I won't be making a review until everyone else has seen the ending, but what I can tell you is that I exploded in tears both sorrow and happiness.

The execution of the ending delivers a powerful scene, and the message theme to which this incarnation of Witchblade aims for and that is love plus relationship from a mother to her child.

From the bottom it is sad and sorrow, but from another perspective, which is shining, it gives hope on the end.

My only complain is that the final showdown could have built more pacing as not feeling rushed, but guess the climax manages to work because the important cast characters obtained and gave what they needed- unconditional love.

DO NOT LOOK AT THE PICS IF HAVEN'T SEEN THE EPISODE.

I REPEAT THAT THEY ARE HIGHLY SPOILERFUL

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/924/witchbladeep24aoi3.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchbladeep24aoi3.jpg)

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1443/witchbladeep24bap7.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchbladeep24bap7.jpg)


And to end the first part of this review, chrno nailed it right. The Witchblade return everything to a similar scenario at the start but with some added changes.

kitten84
2006-09-20, 18:31
spoilers


is that the ENDING >_< OMG i just want to kill someone
i just HATE this ending
why is it so sad and more than this riko didn`t shed a single tear >_<
this was a big disapointment X::::(

grss1982
2006-09-20, 21:39
Sorry double post...... :-)

grss1982
2006-09-20, 21:41
OK Guido, I could'nt help my self so I opened the pics your posted. :heh:

so some questions:


Warning: DO NOT OPEN.

Second Warning: I mean it dont open this if you don't want to be SPOILED. :frustrated:

OK. Its your choice anyway if you've gotten this far. :mad:


So i just wanted to ask some questions:

(1) Did the WB bearer [Masane] die? :twitch:

(2) If so would'nt be contrary to certain guidelines Top Cow set, like not letting the bearer, die? :eyespin:

(3) WTF!! Masane took down the "SISTAS" all by her lonesome?

(4) Although what the heck is Reina doing there, did'nt she die some episodes back?






Man, can't wait for wrex's blog on this one. :uhoh:

Recently saw subbed Witchblade 8, looks like I have a long way to go. :rolleyes:

chrno
2006-09-21, 12:11
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NANI~IIII KORE???????

And suddenly several bricks fly through 'Gonzo's studio windows with notes attached. I'm still picking up my jaw off the floor. As I keep accidently kicking it across the room while trying to grab it. I know the Japanese are flooding the message boards with the same question I'm having. W-T-F?????

The way this episode was done you'd swear they did it last yesterday night. Mind you it had some decent action, even the standing on 'Tokyo Tower' deal was a nice touch, BUT(see it's a big "but" :p) I felt like there was something missing.

Ok folks, we're now asking the question did 'Masane' die? Well, considering what happened they don't really tell you anything. The whole ep. ended on a cliffhanger. Did she or didn't she? Maybe the creators want you to be the judge of that. Well, guess what? I'm stupid and I don't feel like using my brain to figure it out. I want to be spoon-fed. Personally, I can't think of 'Takayama' getting reunited with his daughter and not have 'Masane' be a part of it.

'Tozawa' putting together the story. Last time we saw him he was in the chopper. And just to set the record straight he was letting it be known that 'Masane' is no 'X-CON' or "monster". She a friend and someone's mother. As for 'Wado' he was just wandering around in a mindless stupor of misery. The way it looked made him seem so out of place. As for 'Nishida'. Well, she bought it. She wanted to be part of the action and she got it. I TOLD YOU that staring at that monitor was going to be the death of her. At least her assistant had enough sense to jump ship. Just goes to show you who ranks higher on the "research-for-knowledge-and-knows-how-make-themselves-scarce-when-the-s**t -hits-the-fan".
'Julia' (BLOOD+) 100 'Nishida' (Witchblade) 0

Seems 'Dohji' is finished and 'NsWF' as well. 'Cause there ain't nobody home.

As for the 'SISTAS' I had a feeling they were going to end up against one another before anything happened. And who started it? 'Asagi'. Actually, I figured out her form. It's more like a fox. The pointed metal ears on her DB form, the slanted eyes and that neutral attitude. They can take it or leave it. They're more amused by other people's stupid ambitions for power. The won't always give upport unless the situation benefits them. That pretty much sums up 'Asagi'. If anything she was never really interested. They were better off leaving her home. As she would probably feel better staying in her room zoned out. I'm baffled that 'Maria' caught her off guard. Though 'Aoi' proved to have some guts. But again at this point in time YOU CANNOT JUST WALK UP ON the WB bearer and just hammer away. It doesn't work! As we've seen in the past episodes of even the toughest 'CB' members geting pegged by an unexpected attack. It will NOT allow anyone to get in it's way.

As for 'Reina' being dead, YES folks she is DEAD. She's been DEAD since ep. 15! But haven't you ever heard of "divine" intervention? The whole sequence was symbolic of her showing up. To take 'Maria' home with her. It was just timed in as a last minute deal when 'WBMasane' planted the coup de grace. You have to remember all these things are coming through 'Masane'. As she has far greater compassion despite what has to be done. Hell, at that moment 'Maria' looked like 'Rihoko'.

I guess the final truth was that the 'WB' didn't want 'Rihoko' after all. In a way this scene it's almost similar to that scene in the first OP, only difference is instead of everything getting destroyed in a chaotic manner, everything is wiped out leaving things untouched. After all the I-Weapons weren't destroying anything. Other than running over people's cars and obstructions that's about it. They were heading to the source. Like a bunch of moths to a flame. I kind of look at that whole deal of 'Masane's love having a greater influence over the 'WB' power. To not only protect the ones the most important to her but everyone.

As for 'Rihoko' not crying. Well, maybe the animators didn't have time to put that in. :p Or the fact that 'Rihoko' is not you're average little kid and understands the situation. Plus, having 'Reiji' there made it easier.

My final thoughts: I don't know. I feel there HAS to be more. Because I'm not really satisfied with what was deemed the final ep. I'm hoping that by the time the DVD version comes around there will be somewhat of an "alternate" ending. Like having a "directors cut". I almost feel that IS the case. Hell, they were using 'XTC's OP but the clips were from the DVD version. There was too much stuff being scattered around in that short span of time and no resolutions. I hope that what we saw was not the final product. I REALLY HOPE there is an "alternate" ending. Of course before anyone finds out you'll have to wait until you have the chance of viewing ep 24 of the DVD version. If there isn't an "alternate" ending then 'Gonzo' screwed up. :(

Guido
2006-09-21, 13:05
To put it in simple words on what chrno wrote about in that review: Everything returned back to the beginning, and the Witchblade took them all to Elvisville leaving everybody else unscathed.

Take a good look at the following pics below:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7136/comevj0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comevj0.jpg)
Shot of the first opening credits.

....compare to

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4669/returnlh7.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=returnlh7.jpg)
Shot of the last episode.

Note the giveaway similarities between the two pictures among the one and particular difference between them?

Masane's ending for Witchblade = Lucy's ending for Elfen Lied???:twitch:

Carrie Asagiri
2006-09-21, 13:39
Hell, they were using 'XTC's OP but the clips were from the DVD version.

Mmmm the clips weren't from the dvd version, it was the normal tv opening. If it would be the dvd version we would see more "flesh" XD.

Anyway, I just saw the final and I like it but as chrno said, it lacks of something.

I think that Masane actually died, it made me remember in part the ending for Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040. What I think that was really interesting, was the fact that Gonzo didn't made this ending like something extra dramatic. They put the right amount of drama, and even when we were seeing Masane becoming into light, it was something very sad and at the same time very peaceful. I like a lot the similitudes between the scenes of the first opening and the last scene of the episode, being Masane replaced by Takayama. The explanation of why Riko didn't cry, I think that she felt that very same peace seeing her mom becoming into light, besides the fact the she is a very mature girl for her age.
Anyway, I still think that something more complete could be done with the final

Aaaw man, I'm going to miss this series every week now:(

xizro345
2006-09-21, 14:11
I feared the ending would suck after watching episode 23, but in the end it's average, so I can tell that in the end, I was satisfied.

chrno
2006-09-21, 14:43
Mmmm the clips weren't from the dvd version, it was the normal tv opening. If it would be the dvd version we would see more "flesh" XD.

Anyway, I just saw the final and I like it but as chrno said, it lacks of something.

I think that Masane actually died, it made me remember in part the ending for Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040. What I think that was really interesting, was the fact that Gonzo didn't made this ending like something extra dramatic. They put the right amount of drama, and even when we were seeing Masane becoming into light, it was something very sad and at the same time very peaceful. I like a lot the similitudes between the scenes of the first opening and the last scene of the episode, being Masane replaced by Takayama. The explanation of why Riko didn't cry, I think that she felt that very same peace seeing her mom becoming into light, besides the fact the she is a very mature girl for her age.
Anyway, I still think that something more complete could be done with the final

Aaaw man, I'm going to miss this series every week now:(

Actually I was only referring to one particular sequence where she's lying on the floor in the OP. They used the shots from the DVD and combined it with non-skin shots that came afterwards. After all it isn't all that hard to remove the censors. :D

You and 'Guido' point out what I saw too. I noticed the change in that scene but didn't REALLY look at it. I was only looking at the "person" who had changed and then it sort of clicked. But I was still in shock. I guess in a way it took guts to pull this off. If we didn't care we wouldn't feel this way.

Still, I wanted something I could feel good about. Considering what 'Masane' went through from the very beginning. She deserved better. But then again, even *moving* to a higher plane of exsistence is a far greater reward for such a sacrifice taken. 'Rihoko' understands this well. And she realizes that 'Masane' loves her more than anything in the world. Saving the world is the greatest love that a mother could ever give her child. For the one who was worthless has now exceeded that. She's the greatest mom if not to everyone else, deffinitely to 'Rihoko'. So there is no reason cry. 'Masane' was tough and so isn't 'Rihoko'.

:hmm: I might be able to accept this. I guess things haven't set in for me yet.

MrProphet
2006-09-21, 15:28
After the VaginaBlade back from one of the earlier episodes, I thought that nothing in this series would ever be able to surprise me.

And then I saw THAT! Yes, I am talking about the BoobBlade from that Aoi/Masane moment.

Just think about it...

BOOBBLADE

That pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it? The ultimate expression that explains, digests and thoroughly spongefeeds this whole series in one single perfect word. If anyone ever asks me, what is "Whitchblade" all about, I'm going to tell them: "The Boobblade. A breast with blades. Two of them."

See how simple it is?

I thought that for a really trashy guilty pleasure series like this, the ending was pretty good. I'd even venture to say that it was everything that was necessary for this kind of anime, no more no less. Hell, the ending fight took place on the Tokyo Tower. Talk about classic!

PS: But damn, that boobblade was amazing. It was something like THE cathartic moment for this entire anime. I am still in shock! :twitch:

chrno
2006-09-21, 15:55
After the VaginaBlade back from one of the earlier episodes, I thought that nothing in this series would ever be able to surprise me.

And then I saw THAT! Yes, I am talking about the BoobBlade from that Aoi/Masane moment.

Just think about it...

BOOBBLADE

That pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it? The ultimate expression that explains, digests and thoroughly spongefeeds this whole series in one single perfect word. If anyone ever asks me, what is "Whitchblade" all about, I'm going to tell them: "The Boobblade. A breast with blades. Two of them."

See how simple it is?

I thought that for a really trashy guilty pleasure series like this, the ending was pretty good. I'd even venture to say that it was everything that was necessary for this kind of anime, no more no less. Hell, the ending fight took place on the Tokyo Tower. Talk about classic!

PS: But damn, that boobblade was amazing. It was something like THE cathartic moment for this entire anime. I am still in shock! :twitch:

What the hell are you talking about? :twitch: :twitch: I didn't see no boobblade! I saw a pair of knees with blades on them. If that's what you're referring too.

bluelotus
2006-09-21, 18:24
And then I saw THAT! Yes, I am talking about the BoobBlade from that Aoi/Masane moment.

Just think about it...

BOOBBLADE

That pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it?


LOOOL

Well, MrProphet - you kinda blew me away with THAT! :heh: :D
I think about it... and *boom*: there is the fit of laughter *rofl*

But you're right. In a way 'BoobBlade' sums it up pretty nicely... ;) although I sort of enjoyed the show. Every week I thought what the hell they came up with this time - but then I wanted to know how Masane and Riko are doing...

kinda GONZO ;)

JShaggy
2006-09-21, 18:36
Hadn't been up here for a while, and yeah, the ending for the final episode definitely screamed out 'WTF?' I would've settled for a SoltyRei-like ending, but what can you do about it.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to make anymore DVD vs. TV comparisons for the time being with my regular computer being serviced, especially with Volume 3 being released next week. So chrno, you may have wait a while, unless somebody else decides to do it.

Guido
2006-09-22, 00:31
I can think of that the animation staff was running out of time and in a hurry while making up the last episode, as many of you voiced their insatisfaction.

What the animation staff concentrated on was the scene of Masane's ending to deliver a powerful sequence and worked, at least on me because it touched me.

I'm also turned off that the several antagonists were laid back throughout most the previous episodes taking no further action to compromise Masane's stability of her happy family life to produce geniune angst and grief. Some were just killed off in a hurry, for example, I'm protesting how Asagi go that easily.
She was practically the last one of sisters to appear very lately, and save for seeing in full CB form she was never given a chance to kick butt.

Aoi's demise did follow on natural and made sense, since she truly cared for Maria, and fortunately, despite her nonchalant demeanor, Maria did also feel and cried for Aoi's death.

I don't understand why several people labelled Nishida as a parallel to Julia from Blood+. Julia like Nishida's assistant knew when to stop if the circumstance turned for the worst. Nishida's unhealthy obsession for the Witchblade both parallels and coordinates better with Amschel's lust for scientific knowledge.
Why I might have found Nishida's demise cheap, it does fit her as her lustful curiosity got the better out of her without paying attention to the shit that befell on her too lately.

As for Wado, well he's finished and lost everything- his influence and image- and will soon be roaming the street begging for bread crusts, unless he chooses to jump in the middle of a railroad track while the train comes over in order for himself to be put out of his misery.

But no matter how cheap and rushed the pace was executed in this last episode, Masane and Maria were able to put some decent heck of a fight if it was short-lived.

Witchblade anime touches upon the theme of motherhood. A self-sacrificing mother that not only does she cares for her child, but she's pure-hearted enough to make a better world for her child to live and thrive on.

I think with Masane's ending GONZO did get away with theirs but at the same fulfill Top Cow's request not to kill the lead character.
On what I saw when Masane vanished within that wave of light as she bid farewell to Riko is she just disappear along with the Witchblade and the rest of the X-Cons.
She left Riko on the hands of Reiji because promised her not to leave hear alone. From Masane, besides, Riko learned how to give and deliver love to others realizing the sacrifice that her mother made for everyone.

It was nice to see Reiji taking the straddles of fatherhood displaying a touched and unconditional concern for Riko; meaning to move farther by all means to find her.
Riko will be teaching him on how to be a father just like she taught Masane to be a mother.

As for the X-Cons, what I understood was that they were the Witchblade's bastard, stray children that just wanted to return and be with their mother; same could be hold for most of the Neo-Gene, particularly Maria that saw Reina's figure on Masane to revert back into her innocent, child state and thus reuniting with her on the afterlife.
They just wanted to be loved unconditionally, and Masane heard the voices of their hearts, and so that's why everything faded; she took them all to a faraway place where they would never be hurted or hurt each other, but only receive the warm love of a mother.

chrno
2006-09-22, 12:03
Actually it was wrex_japan that mentioned that whole parallel deal with 'Julia' and 'Nishida'. I guess because they were both researchers. But 'Nishida' got the combination of 'Julia' and 'Anschell' like you said. And as I said before her fanaticism for research cost her. Personally, I kind of felt her demise was kind of "jacked-up" when you compare it to 'Wado'. The only think fitting for him would have been jumping off the building. Chances are he was probably contemplating it before the news crew came. He's that unstable now. Not like it was any change from before.

But I agree that the 'SISTAS' should have gotten more of a chance. Especially, 'Asagi'. Trying to figure out what 'Aoi' reminded me of. Either "puppy dog" or little "lamb". Though 'Asagi' reminds me of a "goat" as well. But I'll stick with "fox". Guess I'll check the site to get a better look once they put them up. It kind of sucks the way they were presented in the show. You really don't get to see their forms that close up. Still think 'Shiori's 2nd form was the WORST!!!! :mad:

I was pretty suprised that 'Masane' was able to stay several steps ahead of 'Maria'. Oh did anyone notice the "swastika" on the building?

It's during that scene where 'Masane' is evading 'Maria' and company. Basically, she flies into a building. Using her hair she cushions the impact so that she doesn't go through it. The force of it creates a swirl pattern cutting into the building and causes it to explode outward when she rebounds.

Ah, yes postwar Japan you never knew what you come across when you're watching anime. There is always some symbolism in there.

*Note folks, the swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol. Which had nothing to do with the 'Nazi' party. It's because of this that the symbol and it's mirrored half the "manji" are often removed because of the negative history attached to it. However this does not extend or effect 'Asian' cultures. As it can still be seen and is still used. :mad:

I watched the episode again and I found that even with it feeling rushed the whole episode became easier and easier to accept. The bottom line is that sometimes you have to accept what is not always going to be the case. So I guess I'm upset and hurt at the same time. I also saw what you were talking about too 'Guido'. About the I-Weapons trying to crawl up 'Tokyo Tower'.

As for 'TC's agreement. Who knows what they discussed later on.

Killing and dying aren't necessarily the same thing. Unless you're looking at it more in the sense of 'Gonzo' killing off the character. Again this guideline can be interpreted in many ways. I guess them wanting to do it would hold a stronger significance to the overall plot. Which can also be conveyed on 'Rihoko's face. It's much deeper and more profound.

Does that mean we get a music video using 'Bette Midler's song "Wind Beneath My Wings" or 'Whitney Houston's "Greatest Love of All?"

As for the 'BoobBlade' well, that is pretty fricking hilarious. :p Don't be talking about 'Masane's boobs now! Hahahaha!!! :p :p

Guido
2006-09-22, 12:24
I never got the pun about the so-referenced 'boobblade', as if I mind though.


But having seen the X-Cons crawling on top of each other to reach Masane at the Tokyo Tower, triggered on me nostalgic memories of Z.O.E. Dolores, i.

A semi-parallel where all Raptors clinged onto each other with Dolores at the top, embraced by the Hathor, and all Orbital Frame contributing their metatron converging onto Dolores acting as the guiding light.


Anyways, I read from an interview to Matt Hawkins that TOP COW is considering to include both Witchblade anime and manga to be canon with the timeline introduced in the comicbook.
He said that the Witchblade will be staying at Japan for a couple of centuries before moving on.

After watching Masane's ending, I'll be happy to indulge myself with the manga to find out if the manga's storyline happens several decades before or after the anime.

One last thing, on which I agree with chrno, is that the ending left me a little of a void on me. It's more like finished on a cliffhanger but gave a closure note at the same time.
If GONZO decides to include an extra pair of episodes along with the DVD releases, they'll mostly be set before the time of the last arc of the anime and that means no epilogue that follows after; refer to Solty Rei extra episodes.

Oh, before I forget, the choice for the animation staff to reinstate the first OP video and song for the last episode was fitting, since only Masane (in both human and Witchblade forms), Reina (as Lady), and Riko are the only characters shown in that OP, meaning all three fulfilled a purpose in the last episode.

chrno
2006-09-22, 14:05
Hmm, does that mean another 'Witchblade' anime sometime down the line?

Well, I found out a little info. on the 'Witchblade' manga. There are 2. Though, I'm surprised that 'ANN' hasn't updated the info. on the actual title. Yet the way it's displayed you'd think it was already published here. As they have a listing for vol. 2 but not vol. 1. :confused:

-'WITCHBLADE Takeru' Which was running in a publication called 'Red Champion'. The artist on the book is 'Kazasa Sumita'. I've been to his site. He's a pretty outstanding illustrator. But his stuff is very much on the "ero" side. He ranks up there with 'Katsuya Terada' as far as the quality of his work goes. He's also produced doujins too.

From the reviews on 'Amazon JP' people that have purchased the first book seem very pleased with the over all production. I'd been curious to see anything on it. But it is coming stateside. I was able today to dig up a piece of info on the manga with some extra images. Which for awhile seemed scarce. Of course this article is old.

The heroine for this story is named 'Takeru'.

I'm assuming this was the story they might have been talking about concerning where the 'Witchblade' was supposed to manifest from. I can see given the chance he would have loved to have the 'Witchblade' pulled from "you don't want to know". This title will be sporting a mature label when it gets here.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=81702

I'll be reading this article myself. :)

-'WITCHBLADE ~ Lost Generations Aoi no Shoujo'.

Getting info on this one is not easy as it's another release that almost looks like a one story deal. So again not much is known about this title. But it does exist and is available.

The story supposedly takes place in the same time line as the anime. When? Who can say? Could be years earlier. The bearer in this story is a sickly 15 year old girl from Okinawa by the name of 'Yuri Miyazono'. Who is suffering from an incurable disease.

The artist on this manga is 'Uno Makoto'. The same artist for the 'Witchblade' anime. The writer is someone else. So far reviews on this story are O.K. While many enjoy the artist's style some either liked the story or they felt it wasn't executed as well. So it's more of a hit or miss title.

Here's the best shot I could find that has an large clickable image. There's no mistaking 'Makoto-san's jagged style.

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-bin/wshosea.cgi?W-NIPS=9981050180

I was trying to remember where I got the info. for 'Lost Generations'. Now I remember. I took the summary and review and ran them through a translator and pieced it altogether from there. Then compared the info. to other listings for accuracy. Of course that was a month ago. :heh: I'd be curious to see both publications of this title.

Guido
2006-09-22, 15:01
Matt Hawkins also stated that Witchblade Takeru won't be censored in anyway.

IMHO, I do not view the censored screening of Witchblade (anime) being censored at all. Sure, when one mentions Witchblade the following what flashes in your mind are tons of imagery of hot, sexy, women claded in skin-tight, organic armor that barely covers up what's needed leaving lots and lots of skin galore.

However, at no time did I feel uncomfortable or whining for the censoring of Masane's Witchblade form. I sincerely think that the touches dealt on recoloring the parts of her body that needed to be colored up, so as the TV show getting around the censors, not only look fitting but also natural; the black coloring makes Masane claded in WB armor look more cooler.

Too bad that the DVD's do not provide a selection so as to choose the following options:
1. View the show uncensored. OR
2. View the show censored.

If they did, they'll be giving consumers all different sets of preferences and would make them happy.
I belong to the demographic that thinks WB Masane's design on censored version looks cooler than her exposed version.

The exposed version simply turns me off.:uhoh: Honestly, I do not know to make my mind on purchasing the DVD's if only had to offer the exposed and uncensored version of WB Masane.

I recall when I posted the first pic of Masane's uncensored version someone, either chrno or JShaggy, commented that if the producers had chosen to opt for that version then the whole show would had not be taken seriously. However, you must understand this is WITCHBLADE on what we're talking about.

At least, everytime that Masane morphed to Witchblade form or return to human form the Witchblade spared her clothes. Just look what happens in the comicbook.

BTW, chrno here is the link for the Witchblade manga thread:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=657005

ultima_dragon
2006-09-23, 02:40
The Final Episode was IMO a little bit too rushed. As someone said before somethings missing here, definetly. But for my side i enjoy the other face of Takayama, i mean the father like side. The picture when he and Riko are holding Hands was too heartbreaking. And Masane disappering in the Light was really emotional. But what did Masane do to Maria that Aoi got so pissed and attacked Masane like a Beserker, did i miss something?

chrno
2006-09-23, 10:58
The Final Episode was IMO a little bit too rushed. As someone said before somethings missing here, definetly. But for my side i enjoy the other face of Takayama, i mean the father like side. The picture when he and Riko are holding Hands was too heartbreaking. And Masane disappering in the Light was really emotional. But what did Masane do to Maria that Aoi got so pissed and attacked Masane like a Beserker, did i miss something?

What did she do? She tagged her in the head that's what she did. It happened so fast that you couldn't really tell what happened. One minute 'Masane's is getting up and telling her that's she's not done yet. You see her flash past 'Maria' and then there's this white stuff spilling down her forehead. And since 'Aoi' cares a great deal about 'Maria' she was more or less defending her honor. You have to remember despite how wild 'Maria' is she was always kind to 'Aoi'. Those two were very close.

grss1982
2006-09-27, 20:55
*Note folks, the swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol. Which had nothing to do with the 'Nazi' party. It's because of this that the symbol and it's mirrored half the "manji" are often removed because of the negative history attached to it. However this does not extend or effect 'Asian' cultures. As it can still be seen and is still used. :mad:

:heh:

Kinda reminds me of other forum discussions about Ichigo's "Bankai" in Bleach ep. 58 or was that 59. It also talked about the hilt guard thingy of his "Bankai," which some noobs said was a swastika like in form. :twitch: :eyespin:

gelugon2105
2006-09-30, 00:22
First, let me introduce myself --

I am a guy with a fetish for inhuman-looking femme fatale with striking measurements and equally devastating weaponry/powers/combat-techniques /armour/technology/skills/insert-whatever-term-that-is-used-to-denote-abilities -gained-from-character-development-in-any-RPG-game. Other than that, I like anything demonic! Hence my nickname 'gelugon' (a.k.a Pit Fiend in the AD&D universe) and day-dreaming of slaying anything that moves like the Marine in DOOM. Pray that I don't get super-powers.

And no I haven't watched all of the anime episodes. I am following the fansubs, but I have a bad habit of looking for spoilers. I have to confess that I sat staring at the ceiling after finding out how this anime ended. Moreover, like chrno has said in w-rex's blog, this is the first anime that got me making online comments. I could have dismissed it as just another anime, but the fact that it is a crossover intrigued me in the first place (and also made it stand out from among the crowd of anime involving inhuman femme fatales).

Anyway, me thinks that Gonzo has a beef with Top Cow, as well as its marketing department. Being the copyright-obsessed assholes that the Americans are, the Nippon Witchblade girls have NOTHING in common with Sara Pezzini. Masane was supposed to be a policewoman originally. She's a clumsy wimp (when she's human of course), and Takeru, well, she's a schoolgirl. And Yuri is very sickly (probably already badly corrupted by the parasitic weapon). And some Top Cow official said they are going to be canonized. Bull crap. To hell with the licensing, I say let Witchblade be Nippononized.

As for the grudge with the marketing department, anyone who follows the anime will see that most of the super-powered wimmen eventually turn out to be colourful and well curved (as opposed to Masane's very edged and jagged WB form) -- easy for toy manufacturers to produce figurines and model kits. Even Masane's later, more powerful form is not spared from merchandise commerialism. In my opinion, it's too colorful. Japs don't seem to like anything that is nearly all black and grey. In fact, I think the designers were forced to have her packing 93-cm boobs too (hence the occasional poking fun at her measurements in the anime). The directive must have gone this way:

DESIGNER: "Nan-dai-yo... <Men-doh-seh-na...>"

ASSHOLE-OF-A-BOSS: "Masane no one SAI-ZU zu-to kiu-kiu sen-ti-mee-tah."

DESIGNER: <glares at Boss>

ASSHOLE-OF-A-BOSS: "Me-re-da."

DESIGNER: "NA-NI!!! Kiu-Kiu sen-ti-mee-tah?! Bakana - ja! Ano-ko-da Anna Ohura ja-nai!! "

ASSHOLE-OF-A-BOSS: "Na-raba kiu-san sen-ti-mee-tah noh?"

DESIGNER: "Ah, ah, wakarimas... <hentai boge!>"

Pardon my really crappy Japanese, but I think any anime buff can make out the lines above. I don't have anything against big boobs, but I hate it when they are used to sell/promote merchandise. If you haven't noticed, nearly all anime female characters now have either washboard chests (in return for extreme kawaii-no-bi-shoujo-ness) or gargantuan ones. The some-where-in-betweens are rare occurences, but these tend to be some of the best thought-out characters (Lady Reina included).

Now there's two more Nippon Witchblade girls, made by people who worked with Gonzo. One's made by a guy who draws hentai doujins regularly, and the other made by two people, one of which who thought highly of Masane's jagged edged primary WB form.

The other two Nippon girls will probably end up dead as well, contrary to the still-growing-in-power Sara. Me thinks that their stories will end up like the Soul Reaver saga; they croak so to save someone they love/admire and all that dramatic hoo haa (still better than the American comic series though).

That's all for today. I have a lot of muck swimming in my head, much of it being revisions for my university exams and also enough plot ideas/suggestions to flood Gonzo AND Top Cow's servers should I email them.

P.S. No no I am not saying I am not touched by the ending when I said "all that dramatic hoo-haa" -- I sat staring at the ceiling, did I? And yes, I shed tears. Sad. And about the reference to Soul Reaver, it would be sacrilege to say that Raziel loved/admired Kain; he just realizes what's most important in the end. As for the "day-dreaming of being a DOOM Marine thing," I consider the Marines in the DOOM series to be even more demonic than the demons, i.e. kick more ass. You don't have to be ugly to be demonic. About the "plot ideas" thing, there's more than enough holes and development space in the Witchblade manga, anime and novel to link all three together and even produce a sequel; however, they WOULD NOT be canon for Top Cow. In fact, the best way for the Nippon Witchblade to turn out requires that it has NOTHING to do with Top Cow.

chrno
2006-10-03, 14:57
:heh:

Kinda reminds me of other forum discussions about Ichigo's "Bankai" in Bleach ep. 58 or was that 59. It also talked about the hilt guard thingy of his "Bankai," which some noobs said was a swastika like in form. :twitch: :eyespin:

Hahaha!! That is funny. Hey take a look for yourself. Her landing could of been any other way. Now either it was intentional or odd coincidence. Also keep in mind the word 'swastika' or 'svastika' is a "sanskrit" word, not a 'German' one. In 'Japanese' is called a "manji". Oh don't forget the symbol has often popped up in the 'Sakura Taisen' series as well.

You are cracking me up gelugon2105! Hahaha!!

And you make some interesting points as well. Now I wonder if this is one of those things that if you give your project to the Japanese or any studio the control is lost? Hahaha! I guess 'Gonzo' wanted to do it their way to appease "their" masses. And of course you get a guy like 'Uno Makoto' on the job, hoo boy. Yeah, we want 'Masane' to be 'MILF' bait and 'Rihoko' to be 'loli-bait. I've seen the boards they thought she was EVER so cute and her intelligence made her even more "moe-moe". Could have been that the artist LIKES drawing busty females? But notice that the amount of jokes were kept in check. But you can tell that the Japanese wanted to control this one. Hahahaha!!! And 'Gonzo' is notorious for their level of fanservice. 'BakuTen' anyone? Hahahaha!!!

I'm curious to know what 'TC' feels about the anime now?

gelugon2105
2006-10-04, 02:31
As long as it's making money off the licensing to Gonzo. I don't know how large Top Cow's share of the profits are, but it sickens me that it's going to get dosh from the anime broadcast, merchandise and model kits imported from Japan, on top of the income it already has from the sales of the comics and action figures. That must be a reason why Gonzo decided to end the anime two episodes earlier and kill off Masane (as well as obliterating the Witchblade along with the Tokyo Tower); no one could stand the fact that the profits from their product is being siphoned off by Americans whose Witchblade series is only similar in name, no thanks to the legal and commercial nightmare that is licensing.

I think Top Cow went to the Japs because they couldn't rely on the television series, which got cancelled after the lead actress had to be sent for alcoholic rehab. Since they lost a source of income and no viewer want anybody else to play the role of Sara Pezzini and an American animation of the witchblade was largely overlooked, they outsourced their work to Gonzo. In other words, they are attempting to ride on the gravy train that is the nationwide Anime/Manga craze in the USA (& other parts of the world) now.

Excerpt from a shareholders and Board of Directors meeting at Top Cow:

Shareholder 1: "Yancy Butler's been arrested. Again. Now she's going to rehab for probably months. What are we going to do? What about our money?"

<Chorus of shareholders seconding his opinion.>

Director A: "Um... We hire Pam Anderson?"

<Shareholders split, some nodding heads in glee and the others frowning.>

Shareholder 2: "HELL NO, what the f*** are you thinking??!"

Director B: "Yeah that's a bad idea. I say we get Brande Roderick. She's cuter."

<Shareholders split again, some nodding heads in glee and the others frowning.>

Shareholder 3: "Jeez, we don't want some big-boobed bimbo as the lead! We go in this direction and the TV series will look some Japanese anime gone live action!"

<Some shareholders nodding heads in agreement, but the others grinning ear to ear.>

Director C: "You're right, we don't want the TV series turning out like that."

Director A: "When we can make a new one! I say screw the TV series! Never liked the way it's been toned down just so 'it can appeal to the masses'. Witchblade should have been about clothes being ripped off anyway."

Shareholder 4: "Damn it, you guys are idiots! I want my money back!"

Director B: "Now wait a minute! This could be big bucks! And we don't need to lift a finger! We just outsource Witchblade!"

Shareholder 5: "And who the heck we outsource it to? India??"

Director C: "Much as it is tempting cost-wise, Americans can't understand Tamil and Hindi at the least and the Indians are just going to include extra Trimurti and Brahman hoo doo nonsense to the series, like they did with their version of Spider-man. No, we take it to the Japanese!"

Shareholder 6: "So you're going to just let it turn into a anime show with big boobs bouncing around, painfully cute kids and dollops of other who-knows-what-the-Japs-like?"

Director A: "Exactly. Now before you sue me, I ask you, what's your kid watching?"

Shareholder 5: "Some Japanese cartoon about shi -- shibi -- shino -- superpowered Japanese ninja. It's got a ninja guy with eyes that hypnotize people to slaughter each other. And there's a near-naked big-boobed brunette who kills men stupid enough to molest her by leeching their blood out.

Shareholder 6: "Hey, doesn't that show have another big-boobed bimbo who kills men by having sex with them and breathing on their face with poison gas?"

Shareholder 4: "And another big-boobed broad who fights while wearing only a scarf and towel, and bleeds red mist to blind her enemies?"

Shareholder 7: "My kid has a roomful of dolls and posters of those guys and girls. And guys and gals from other shows, like the one with some nano-tech vampires that share Tom Cruise's family name, if he was Ukrainian. And there're big-boobed vampiresses."

Director A: "See? You guys actually noticed. Our kids these days are into violence and big-boobs stuff. It's not even porno! And best of all it's legal!"

Director B: "So we outsource Witchblade to the Japs. But who?"

Director C: "Well, who made those shows with big boobed shinobi and nano-tech vampires?"


I hope their REAL meetings aren't this dumb. But like this parody of a meeting suggests, Top Cow is targeting the sex-hormone filled youth of the USA, who happens to be easily aroused by fictitious H-cup animated women and anime versions of Leonardo Di Carprio and Orlando Bloom (and they don't even need to be blonde; any hair color will do). Hence, the hurry to outsource their stuff. Especially to Gonzo, whom Top Cow knows will produce shows and manga with outrageously proportioned women and rugged/boyish/ handsome/good-looking-enough-makes-you-like-crap men. Just like they had wanted with their Witchblade.

IN FACT, some Top Cow officials are hinting that their other major product, The Darkness, is being reproduced by Gonzo. See Guido's Thread about this.

I hope Top Cow won't license any more of its series to Gonzo. Oh yes, there's more; in addition to the Darkness and the Witchblade, there's the Angelus (probably a mace-like weapon, can't be sure) and the Spear of Destiny. Yes, the spear that poked Jesus Christ. And its wielder is the descendant of Mary Magdalene. I don't know how much Gonzo will have to re-alter the stories. GOD FORBID.

AND there are 13 supernatural weapons in total.


P.S. The American Witchblade has been butchered so badly with mythical, biblical and extraterrestrial notions that not even a hardcore fan can tell whether it's supposed to be an alien artifact, one with divine origins or just a plain freak of nature. Examples: the witchblade fell from the sky, came from space and thus should be alien in origin. Yet later it was said the Witchblade is a divine weapon to balance the forces of light and dark on Earth. Then it was said it came from Lilith, the first female human before Eve. Then later it was said the Witchblade is of the male element. Total hodge-podge garbage I say. Poor Sara Pezzini, she's already quite pissed off and confused about the Witchblade (hence the fact that she went into a trance for several days after meeting the previous wielders in her dreams).

And about The Darkness, it is something similar to the Witchblade, but it has no actual form unlike the Witchblade. It can hide in a tooth cavity, behind eyeballs and the insides of your ears. When the user (or rather the person cursed with it) invokes it, the Darkness burst out in a real gross fashion. The user can summon demons, darkness weapons (even lame stuff like guns made out of shadow, of which the current user Jackie Estacado prefers) or let the user blend into the shadows like he's formless himself. And the quirkiest thing about it; it only works when it's dark. DOH.

The anime show mentioned in the fictional Top Cow meeting is Basilisk, reproduced with double the violence and a whole lot more boobies. The other anime mentioned is Trinity Blood, also made by Gonzo.

H-cup is a JAPANESE bra size, and is measured in metric centimeter. The American one is in Imperical inches, and American sizes are designated in single or multiple letters of A, B, C and D. While the Americans officially do not have bra sizes above double-D (or is it triple?), the Japanese designate new ones as they get larger and larger women (the current largest being Shoko Goto-chan, at a colossal 110 cm).

chrno
2006-10-10, 09:32
From what you're saying 'gelugon2105' it's like 'Gonzo' didn't really want to share 'Masane' with 'TC'. Considering that 'TC' would own a piece of her to begin with. Again considering the amount of merchandise that did come out for it which wasn't much. Four models, a sketch and design book (that I F***ING MISSED OUT ON) and two manga. If the ser ies was popular enough then there should have been more goods. No one dared do a swimsuit model. No 'Masane & Rihoko' or 'Cloneblade' models. I mean if artists were jumping at the chance to create their own rendition of the series on behalf of 'TC' you would think there would be more stuff. I guess if 'Witchblade' belonged to Japan then that would be the case. Then they could do what they wanted. After all the idea of the 'Witchblade' bearer being able to punch out a meteor sounds cool.

I'm beginning to think that 'Witchblade' only appealed to small masses of viewers. Compared to what they normally watch do you really think 'Masane' could turn their heads when they got all the other fetishes in the world? Maybe it was too average for their standards. who knows.

But yes, 'TC' wanting to outsource their material to get sales seems the case. Again the fate with all comics when you do get a decent story the writers are always f***ing with s**t and confusing their readers. Happens all the time. Poor 'Sara'.

Actually, gelugon2105 did you like the series?

gelugon2105
2006-10-11, 03:10
Top Cow's or Gonzo's? Top Cow's started out promising, but when Kenneth Irons comes back from the dead and some cult that was hunting the Darkness uses Ian Nottingham as host for both the Witchblade and the Darkness AND THEN becoming the host for BOTH -TWINS- of the Witchblade, it began to suck. It just gets worse when the Angelus and Magdalena were introduced, as if the Darkness was not enough.

As for the Anime, I think there was a lot of pressure on Gonzo to produce boat-loads of ridiculous looking characters (namely most of the Cloneblades; their colour schemes are simply jarring, the worst of which is either Asagi's or Maria's) for the release of would-be model kits and catchy posters. Fortunately, they handled the story well such that I don't
end up hating every female that has a Clone blade. (Except Asagi; I haven't seen all the episodes, and the only one I watched with her in it was the final one; within five seconds of listening to her talking and I already hated her.)

The anime does have some up points:

I especially like the way/style the faces are drawn. They look familiar enough to the typical sharp/round chinned, baby-faced and big-eyed faces in other animes, but with enough distinctive features (namely the borders of their eyes and their eyebrows; these are traits unique to Gonzo, as can be seen in Basilisk) to make them look different from the stock/standard template for anime faces out there.

And of course, Masane, though she could have been just another conveniently clumsy big-boobed anime babe, stands out from the rest thanks to her MILF status. I mean her status as an affectionate single mom. Makes the perrpetually brooding Sara Pezzini look like a street tramp with constant migraine. She's certainly a memorable heroine. And Mamiko Noto is a very appropriate seiyuu for her. She’s rather versatile, as many of you have already noted, having voiced the cheery boisterous Masane, throaty blood-lustful WB Masane and even providing an ending theme song (which I actually listen to for every episode of the fansubs; yes, it’s that good enough for me to waste some time hearing out the lyrics).

Rihoko is genuinely cute and likeable (in fact, I am using her face as a template for any anime toddlers I am drawing; no more toddler Naruto template for me), unlike the many cute but irritating anime kids out there.

Unfortunately, Gonzo’s work is far from perfect. Here are some beefs I have with the presentation of the anime:

I do not like the original design for WB Masane (primary level form); too much skin, and yet she gets to retain her casual clothes. I say when a bimbo's combat mode is designed near-naked, let there be a transformation where the clothes get ripped to shreds in the first place. It doesn't make sense for the Witchblade to return her clothes when she powers down. There's always a half-assed way to cover her up strategically when that happens. The recolouring for the TV broadcast made her look better, but the make-over is very obvious, especially when a scene depicts WB Masane up front head to heel.

What's with the fluid stuff leaking out of them whenever they get injured? And PURPLE meat? (This is noticeable after CB Shiori had made a cross on WB Masane's chest.) Gonzo just loves characters designed with major color contrasts. I say gimme crimson ichor, vitae and flesh anytime someone human (or superhuman) gets kiri-ed, and make them splash and spray like real blood. It's just too viscous, the gray milky goop coming out of the Blade-women and the Dohji products.

The final episode's last scene could have been more of a tear-jerker if they hadn't included any dialogue other than Masane's telepathic last words to Rihoko. Rihoko calling out to her mom and pointing her out for Takayama to see just ruin everything. And the twinkling noises when the I-weapons' lifeforce is sucked out -- GOD. I heard it in the Evangelion movie when everyone's soul goes to heaven or somewhere all across the globe, heard it overused in Sailor-moon (I watched only a few eps of this; *brbrrr*), heard it spoil the otherwise decent sound effects of spells in Slayers... Gonzo could have used whispers, howls or just whooshes, but twinkling accompanied with SPARKLING dust. Pah!

As for the comics, which I got from a good samaritan online, I initially liked it. The noir feel of the setting (in crime-ridden New York) was decent enough to compare it to 100 Bullets or Sin City (though it still falls flat in comparison). Sara Pezzini was understandably designed to appeal to young males’ libido, but she has street-smarts and guts appropriate for a detective, and enough emotional fragility as befitting her sad past.

Unfortunately, the plot was hijacked by commercialism from issue 20 onwards. The Darkness/Witchblade crossovers was very confusing and some characters whom I really did not like comes back for more appearances (namely Kenneth Irons; he could have been a deliciously evil hunk, but when he died the first time, I realized he’s nothing more than a pretentious hypocrite).

Up to issue 97, things have pretty much been soured by bad plot/story twists, as well as fan-voting democracy. In fact, Kenneth Irons's new assassin, some Jap yakuza guy known as Tora No Shi, was voted to be killed off just two or three issues after his return, which was planned to make him a main character. Yeah, he sucked. Considering that he only appeared in two issues before that and he was voted to be killed off so quickly, I don't think American WB fans would warm up to the idea of a Japanese main. This bodes ill for Funimation and Top Cow's attempt to franchise WB as an anime.

As for Ken Irons, he was killed by Joe Siry (which is the most interesting looking character in Witchblade; I like the way his veins pop out when he yells at Sara or Jake). Thank God he died (again) and Joe didn't, but Sara's long-time partner and one of the very few male characters in Witchblade whom I most sympathize with, killed himself. NOW THAT SUCKED. BIG TIME.

If Joe Siry dies, I am not following the comics series anymore.

Hopefully, when Top Cow goes bankrupt Gonzo would buy it over, AFTER replacing everyone in its own marketing department. After that, they can think of a proper Witchblade sequel to make up for the first story.

Post-Notes:

What's the Witchblade anime's ranking in Japan's top show lists? Did it reach below 20? Did Mamiko Noto really do all that exhaling for the background music in the action sequences?

My currently most hated cute-but-irritating anime kid happens to be Kotarou of Black Blood Brothers. I knew I was going to hate him when he appeared in the pilot episode, and this was confirmed when he banged his bro’s coffin repeatedly until he literally had his face smacked INTO the floor. Needless to say, I didn’t laugh when that happened but instead wished that he had been hit harder so much that his cute vampire boy face would penetrate the ship’s hull and taste sea water. I won’t be watching this show as long as this kid is still alive.

In case you are wondering whether I have something against vampire kids, yes I do, but only because those I know so far are worthless characters.

Example I: In Trinity Blood, the young duke Ion screams of servicing the Japs’ desires for cute gaki’s. He’s a totally redundant character, and the plot would have been more or less the same without him. One instance would be the revelation of the Empress’ body double as being his grand-aunt. This twist was too convenient and only served to tell viewers that his family is alive and well and crud. Ion is a worthless character, little fighting prowess (compared to other Methuselah) and all that.

Example II: Please don’t hate me when I say Riku should have been in the garbage bin for reject Blood+ characters. He is just plain dumb and ama-i, and even more worthless later as Saya’s Chevalier. At the very least he could have been jumping and zipping around with gusto (and a short sword) like Ion, but no, despite my hope that he would be. At least the storywriters realized this and gave him some worth by making him the father of Diva’s children after she raped him to death. Can’t say I don’t pity him when he died in a shocking parody of “Boy Meets Girl” fashion, but I am also glad that he’s gone.

Oh yes, there can be a sequel to Witchblade. There's a big huge question (and exclamation) mark in the ending of the anime, big enough to support a sequel. The hint for this possibility? The shell that formed out of energy particles and landed in Riko-chan’s hands. Considering that the Witchblade can actually take on any form (like the odd tattoo on Masane’s wrist before it awakened in Episode 1), the shell, at least to me, is screaming “I’m the Witchblade, a-ho! You’re next!” Unfortunately, this means that either Masane would have to come back with a straight-out-of-the-ass plothole technique (quoting from Zzz…’s reply in W-rex’s blog) or Rihoko becoming the next wielder (which is a major no-no). I prefer the former plot for the sequel, but the only way to make up for this corny development is to have so many heart-wrenching plot twists that the sequel would not be fit for viewers below the mature age.

Oh yeah, thanks for telling me that there weren’t many side products involving the Witchblade anime, chrno. I would have hated Gonzo had it been otherwise. I guess this happens when Gonzo does not try to own all the damn rights to Witchblade in the first place, so that it could brainstorm a more appealing story and better promotion for it. As for Top Cow, it should have realized that it is doomed and sold the rights to Gonzo.

Guido
2006-10-13, 10:51
From AnimeNation News (http://www.animenation.net/news/index.php)


Japanese fan blog Shigerog mk-II has posted extensive screenshots comparing the Japanese DVD version of Witchblade episode 9 to its original television broadcast version. Characters have been extensively redrawn for the DVD version, eliminating poor quality designs used in the original broadcast. The left side screenshots are the DVD version; the right side screenshots come from the TV broadcast.


Direct to Shigerog mk-II (http://scixx.blog27.fc2.com/blog-entry-523.html)

rpgman1
2006-10-13, 13:12
From AnimeNation News (http://www.animenation.net/news/index.php)



Direct to Shigerog mk-II (http://scixx.blog27.fc2.com/blog-entry-523.html)

Really nice Guido. Looks like the DVD version of Witchblade was seriously redrawn for the characters' features. The expressions look more serious instead of being cartoony. Is it just me or Masane has nipples showing through her tank top and shirt:p ? I hope Funimation releases the remastered DVD version here in the States instead of the TV broadcast. ADV had the TV version of Gravion and its sequel Zwei. The series doesn't look like it's going to be aired on Adult Swim. Trinity Blood is just slow-paced and really weird with the plot.

gelugon2105
2006-10-14, 00:10
WHOA. Rpgman1 and Guido, those are some MAJOR DIFFERENCES. Most of the changes are for the better, but some I did not like (making Masane look more moe when she sleeps or is drunk does not strike me as an improvement). The TV version is crappy by comparison. And yes rpgman1 those are chikubi's. Seems like the veteran animators for Gonzo overlooked the fact that Masane would have to have very hard nippies if they show through BOTH the top and shirt. However, kudos to them for making Masane more luscious. This just proves that with a little more love and effort (and experience; heh heh) any anime person can be rendered prettier.

BTW, if you are an open-minded liberal person who does not mind viewing smut associated with main-stream anime, i.e. hentai doujins and animated short hentai movies, you will be able to gauge just how attractive an anime babe is by the number of doujins and hentai shorts that have her as the, ahem, main, and how fast they are published. And so far, just about every regular hentai artist had a go at Masane. Oh wait, that didn't sound right... scratch that, I meant that every hentai artist had done one product that involves her.

However, if you do actually surf for smut parodies, AVOID any doujin that has nothing more or less than Masane in a sensous pose. The rest I find sickening and had them going straight into the Recycle Bin.

That just reminds me how liberal the Japanese can get with their art products.

(Not all anime babes end up having doujins that involve them though. Some, like Asagiri Junko from Sunabouzu and Rushuna Tendo from Grenadier never got any, or at least any that I have yet to come across. This goes to show how weird the Japs can be as well.)

rpgman1
2006-10-14, 12:49
That's because Grenadier and Sunabouzu are awful shows even in Japan. Same goes for Amazing Nurse Nanako. Only a few artists only drew the characters in sketches, nothing more. Isn't Masane supposed to have rosy cheeks since she was drunk? Japan has lenient copyright laws when it comes to doujinshi. As for anime, it varies unless the company decides to send out C&D letters for making fansubs. Otherwise, it's not a big deal. This is why many people watch the shows through doujins and fansubs. The same could be said for video games. This is nothing more than marketing and sales promotion for these items. Anyway, did Top Cow give up the rights of Witchblade to Gonzo? It doesn't look completely out, but the ending did let many of us feel like WTF just happened.

BaronNoir
2006-10-15, 19:55
I'm a s... for animes like this, so I'm mesmerized by it. (well, rather, I want to...get...it ASAP)

So, to people who have watched it...I'm trying to figure out the general storyline

Apparently, later on the show, the main character begin to have some troubles with her daughter-relationship wise, she is loving her too much.

What this means ? Spoil with frenesy

rpgman1
2006-10-15, 20:57
This should be in the Witchblade thread.

gelugon2105
2006-10-16, 19:34
Alcohol causes inflammation of the veins (or is it arteries?) in the cheeks and nose, so Masane should have a streak of red from one cheek, across the nose and to the other cheek, typical of some anime characters who blush (or when they see a particularly ecchi scene). Having her look like a more adult version of Rihoko, i.e. having the same rosy cheeks doesn't really make her look drunk, in my opinion. However, I have to say that it's still better than the rookie-made scenes for the TV broadcast, after having seen the fansub for ep 9.

chrno
2006-10-18, 09:17
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Y'know when I look at this I sort of wonder...WTF is 'GONZO' DOING????

I mean yeah some of the shots have been redrawn for the better but I'm starting to get bugged by the "smiley mouths". Though I'll have to admit the shot where she's trying to become the 'WB' while drunk and then conks out is pretty funny. She looks so goofy there. But then again this is 'Masane' we're talking about. Good drinker, clumsy, with great sense of duty. Yeah, they're trying to sell her "moe" goodness. The drunken bedtime kiss was cute.

As far as everyone else could see the rounded features and mouths were part of the original designs, however they weren't this pronounced. Most of the characters you could either see their lower teeth on the bottom and a more rounded set of denture work on the top. But from some shots it just doesn't look right. It's like painting a "smiley face" right on top of the 'Mona Lisa'. I want 'Masane' dammit not 'Kermit the Frog'! Oh well. Like I told a friend I'll be keeping my 'WB' "files" as reference. Of course I'll be purchasing the series when it comes out. But since the broadcast holds so many laughable moments I just can't let it go. Something like this only happens every once in awhile. Since I've been following the DVD releases every now and then you run across stuff that makes you go...hmmmm....

Like for example:

Q: Why was 'Shiori' kissing and licking that hand?
A: Because 'Reina's ass was about 1/4 into the camera making it an easy reach for 'Shiori'.

Q: What happened just before 'Shiori' broke loose from the hospital?
A: The animators felt the scene needed more "interaction" between 'Reina' and 'Shiori'. Yeah, it's "like that." :naughty:

I went over to the site Monday just to check and see if they filled in the rest of the cast. I was mainly going there to see what the 4th DVD cover looked like. Seems I was pretty on the mark. I took a guess that it would be a toss up between either something that happened in ep. 11 and 12 or the party which is ep. 10. They chose to sell 'Masane's sexy good looks from the party. The cover is funny as hell. But I was right on about the LE slip cover being 'Nora'. Now I can only guess that vol. 5 might have something from the beach deal as nothing happens much during 17-18 except more story. But I bet they put the beach deal on the cover. Hell, they already have a "radio" CD featuring a scene from the beach.

Back to the site, I finally had a chance to check out the rest of the cast. They added 'Nishida', 'Aoi and 'Asagi'. I tell you 'Uno Makoto' giving them all this "vogue" poses. 'Nishida' looks like a model. But then there's 'Aoi' and 'Asagi'. And you finally really get to look closely at their designs. 'Didn't know that 'Aoi' was packing so much "BACK" downstairs. I'm like DAMMMMMMMN! No wonder she doesn't have anything up top, kamisama put it all down on the bottom. But 'Asagi', <shudder-shudder> <shakes head> now talk about your "pasty", "anorexic", "knock-kneed", "pigeon-toed" "freak!!" GAWD!!!
Talk about loose on the pen. Talk about "low-riders", those are beyond the definition try "pubic-riders". Even the 'DB' form is a chuckle in a half. As she's still "pigeon-toed" with the blades facing inward. Of course, gelugon2105 hates 'Asagi' anyway so it's no shame that we didn't get to see more. :p

Ah well...

As for the ending. I found one artist that felt that the story didn't end. In fact 'Masane' came back and scared the crap out of 'Reiji' and 'Rihoko'. So they all went out to have a bite to eat. WTF????? Right now he's working a little doujin. Don't know what all the deal is with "futanari"??? Can't we just have a normal story????? Hahahaha!!! Having 'Masane' sitting in a room with 'Rihoko' possessing "extra equipment" with a stupid (I don't know where it came from <shocked>) look on her face is just asking for trouble. :p

Oh yeah, no problem gelugon2105 about the goods. But hey who knows they could produce more over time. I mean they're putting out another "radio" drama. So now there will be 2. This covers more stuff that happens at the beach. The sketch and design book had preliminary work in it. Like 'Masane' wearing an apron. Who would have thought? I really wish I had gotten hold of this book. These are one of those items that are sold "exclusively" through select retailers but in very limited quantities. So if the retailer runs out there's no say as to when they'll get more. The book was sold through 'Animate.jp' and maybe one more place. At this time there is no more instock and it has been removed from their site. The only available retailers that we know of that managed to get hold of it were 'Animaxis.com' and 'Otaku.com'. At this time both retailers have sold out and can't restock it so it has been removed from their inventory. My only hope is that they release a full "establishment works" book, that contains conceptual art and colored illustrations. One ideal I had for a really nice artbook is basically getting as many artists to draw their renditions for 'WB'. It would be like a fanbook. I could see it.

gelugon2105
2006-10-20, 07:24
Like I have written, the Japanese (especially their anime artists and producers) can be rather weird. As noted by chrno, they fill their re-releases of animes with all sorts of omake stuff, made to look like deleted scenes. As for the DVD covers, only attractive-looking ones can make do; this is a given, not just in Japan (just look at Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet and you will get what I mean).

About the futanari term, it literally means “double form” (info source: Wikipedia), thus the extra equipment chrno mentioned. It seems that some hentai artists are loathe to include male participants in their works, yet still prefer the presence of the male member; hence the rather common use of futanari themes. Otherwise, male participants are blacked out like they are corporeal shadows.

Anyway, back to the discussion of the DVD version: are there only extra/deleted scenes included in the DVDs? Any additions to the original plot?

P.S. I find it comfortable corresponding with you guys (rpgman1, chrno, guido, w-rex, etc.). Since this was the first thread I wrote in, I made the mistake of presuming every AnimeSuki member would be like you guys. I seem to have stoked a smoldering fire in the Naruto Filler Discussion thread, and I am earnestly trying to douse it before it turns into an inferno. If any of you happen to go to that thread and post a message, please do not mention my mentioning of it here. I started writing in it from page 36, up to 40.

chrno
2006-10-20, 15:06
Like I have written, the Japanese (especially their anime artists and producers) can be rather weird. As noted by chrno, they fill their re-releases of animes with all sorts of omake stuff, made to look like deleted scenes. As for the DVD covers, only attractive-looking ones can make do; this is a given, not just in Japan (just look at Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet and you will get what I mean).

About the futanari term, it literally means “double form” (info source: Wikipedia), thus the extra equipment chrno mentioned. It seems that some hentai artists are loathe to include male participants in their works, yet still prefer the presence of the male member; hence the rather common use of futanari themes. Otherwise, male participants are blacked out like they are corporeal shadows.

Anyway, back to the discussion of the DVD version: are there only extra/deleted scenes included in the DVDs? Any additions to the original plot?

A little but not by much. I'm literally watching them side by side. Talk about having 'WB' burned in my head so badly that I can literally remember what happened in each episode. My mind hasn't been that keen since my 'Iczer-1' days. Goes to show you how old I am. No wait, you can just look at my profile for that. DARN!! :eyespin:

But from what I can see there isn't much changes in the overall work other than them throwing stuff in. Like what I mentioned before. I've only watched "raws" for the DVD version up to ep 9 and plan to keep going until the end. Other than what I mentioned above that was the only change I saw so far. Most of the changes I wrote about several posts back were technical things. Like coloring, retouching, redrawing and some edits. I did comparisons for ep. 1-3. I decided not to do anymore because people want to see images not read about it. I was pretty thorough and extensive. To the point I started buring out which was the reason I almost didn't post ep. 3. So I will not be doing it again.

As to whether the extra scene adds to the story or not, well...we already knew that 'Shiori' had a thing for 'Reina'. But touching her "ass" doesn't add anymore or less to the story than it did when the scene wasn't included.

Oh and 'Shiori' tasting 'Reina's tonsils while she lets her do it (which she did only to keep her calm and from escaping the hospital) doesn't tell you anything either. Other than it makes for an imaginative fanfic.

<Heavy breathing> "Oh sensei, now that I'm all F**KED up inside, did I ever tell you...*haaaah-haaa*...how much I admire you as a person? ...*hahnn*...maybe we could scratch each other's itches...*haaah* :naughty:

That's right folks, in this scene it was admitted that 'Reina' was willing to submit to a pleasure-ridden "yuri" relationship with 'Shiori' and say "F**K" to getting the 'WB' and 'Father' too!! Yeah, thats' what I get out of that ONE scene.

They only thing they did do was make you realize how bloody things were when 'Shiori' was done killing and raping. Good lard!

Oh, and from what I saw in ep. 7, they didn't change the boat deal. GAAAAH!! I'M SO MAD!! Well, not really. They fixed up those awkward body shots. Like "boobies". After all we got to perfect 'Masane's "melons" and 'Shiori's "giga-torpedoes". But that faraway shot that looked like something drawn by a 5 year old wasn't changed. Hahahaha!! :D

The improvements to the set designs do give you a better sense of "how" things happened and "where".

For example like what I pointed out in vol. 1. Because it was clearer I could see where 'Masane' was (age 17) during the time of the accident and the "contract" with the 'WB'. You couldn't see that in the broadcast version.

In ep. 7 because they fixed up the backgrounds during 'Reina's escape you got a better sense of where she was when the 'WB' reacted. I could see that she was fleeing from a burning car on a highway not far from a toll pass.

This would now answer any questions of how 'Rihoko' ended up in Masane's charge. Also, watching the series again also sheds light on those questions folks had during the series. Considering that you had to wait episodes later to get the answers going back and looking at things again you notice stuff you didn't. Making things all the more clear. Like whether 'Reiji' and 'Reina' "dood-it". :naughty:

But from what I can see there isn't much change. Some tidbits here and there. Also, often times if they don't feel like retouching something they won't as they see nothing wrong with it. If they tried to retouch everything then it would be like redoing the whole thing.

P.S. I find it comfortable corresponding with you guys (rpgman1, chrno, guido, w-rex, etc.). Since this was the first thread I wrote in, I made the mistake of presuming every AnimeSuki member would be like you guys. I seem to have stoked a smoldering fire in the Naruto Filler Discussion thread, and I am earnestly trying to douse it before it turns into an inferno. If any of you happen to go to that thread and post a message, please do not mention my mentioning of it here. I started writing in it from page 36, up to 40.

Thanks, no problem. No gasoline ignited fires here. Just friendly campfire. :) I guess the one reason why flame wars get started on boards is people are too busy trying to beat various views into one's head. Happens when you get too involved with a show that's got too much going for it. Already saw something like that in 'Strawberry Panic'. And the best one 'Mahoromatic' on 'ANN'. I stay away from those things. My view is that it's ok to post your opinion about something. But to be honest if one hates a show they should not post at all. And if you do keep it short and that's it. Because arguing views back and forth doesn't get anywhere except "flames". Because the majority is for the show not against it. Not to mention everyone's view is different. Stuff like that goes into a "why I don't like this show or vice-versa. Oh well, but hey post are for debates too. Everyone's got a mind to speak. I saw just enjoy it. As for 'Naruto' not interested don't care!

Hahahaha!!!

chrno
2006-11-07, 14:22
Ok for all you 'Witchblade' fans out there that missed out on the establishment (sketch) works book, there is a NEW 'WITCHBLADE Visual Fan Book' out! This I think will make up for the last book and will probably carry those same images. This will need to be confirmed with anyone that did pick up the sketch works as it was hard to come by and probably not many were produced when it was first released. Which is why it was only exclusively carried by selected retailers. Inside and outside of Japan.

There are 2 places whom I've come across by accident that are carrying it. 'Hobby Link Japan (HLJ) and 'Otaku.com'. :cool:

HLJ -price is $20+ with (S+H) either SAL or EMS total will vary on weight and what shipping method you choose.

http://www.hlj.com/product/JIV76358

Otaku.com - price is $32.95 (S+H) is around $10 for the first item and $5 for anything extra. They use a combination of EMS/USPS.

http://www.otaku.com/cgi-bin/itemview.asp?itemid=71641l

After looking at the total both almost come out to roughly the same. Which is either $40 or under. I'll pay the extra just to get the tracking.

I'm not missing out on this S** T again!!!! :frustrated:

If you check it out on 'Otaku.com's site you can see additional pics. I already ordered mine a few seconds before posting this. So don't miss out, 'KAY???? :( :frustrated: :nono::frustrated: :nono:
:frustrated: :nono::frustrated: :nono::frustrated: :nono::frustrated: :nono:


Oh, and raws for 10-12 are out. This should be good. More smiley mouths. Gotta DL'd those and see for myself. Oye vay! :rolleyes:

So just dropping off the info. :)

JShaggy
2006-11-08, 21:49
Just took a look at Vol. 4 today, and aside from the usual animation clean ups, Episode 11 was COMPLETELY redone in every aspect of the episode.

I'll post screencaps tomorrow when I get the chance.

chrno
2006-11-09, 18:34
Just took a look at Vol. 4 today, and aside from the usual animation clean ups, Episode 11 was COMPLETELY redone in every aspect of the episode.

I'll post screencaps tomorrow when I get the chance.

Chances I'll be here as usual provided I don't see it for myself. I have yet to watch it side by side myself. Then I can start griping. Hahahahahaha!!!

See you then! :)

dumbo63
2007-07-16, 20:54
Was anyone else amazingly impressed as I was by the ending?

CuXe
2007-08-05, 03:31
I was impressed bye the ending 2.... gotta say.... I really loved it!......Fan-service/cute heart-touching story/hot mamas/boobgina-blades..........what's not to love?:D

kauldron26
2007-09-22, 03:02
wow... i just finished witchblade... hands down one of the best endings ever ever ever... to think i thought the show would be crap. i love being proven wrong when it comes to anime. one of the best endings ever ever ever....

rpgman1
2007-09-23, 13:27
Do you think Funimation did a good job with the dub and the script? It hasn't come out yet so I was wondering. As for the ending, it was supposed to happen because the Witchblade is slowly killing her when she keeps using Level 2. Even though Top Cow told Gonzo that Masane isn't supposed to be dead, but Masane disappearing into the light makes sense.

kauldron26
2007-09-24, 11:31
i stopped reading top cow when i realized that they plan on making their characters last forever, and that doesnt include the fact that many of their comics were constantly left incomplete. aphrodite IX and dozens more. top cow has become all flash and style. it amazes me that people seem to complain about the fanservice in this anime... the comic book has 10 times more.

Swta111
2007-10-01, 17:06
Hey everyone-

i was woundering if they are considering or making a new witchblade (anime) series because i liked the anime one just done and was hoping ther would be anouther....

anyone know anything?

Thanks :)

chrno
2007-11-02, 13:42
Hey everyone-

i was woundering if they are considering or making a new witchblade (anime) series because i liked the anime one just done and was hoping ther would be anouther....

anyone know anything?

Thanks :)

There is no word at this time.

I had wondered this myself with the release of the manga (Witchblade - Takeru) and the novel (Witchblade Lost Generation ~ Midori no Shoujo) (http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-bin/wshosea.cgi?KEYWORD=%83%45%83%42%83%62%83%60%83%75 %83%8C%83%43%83%68+%95%C9%82%CC%8F%AD%8F%97).

Now that the anime has been accepted into the 'Witchblade' timeline by 'Top Cow' I had wondered if they might consider another story since they are leaving the 'Witchblade' in Japan for now. While both books feature two completely different bearers. The novel's bearer is supposed to take place in the same timeline as the anime. Preceding Masane. The info. on this novel is limited based on what info. I could provide here and then added to the wiki by someone else. I eventually had to change 'Yuri' (which I originally had) to 'Midori' based on a "furigana" breakdown of the protagonist's name in the title. Thanks to the people who know the language. :p So chances are we won't be getting it. The cover design is done by the same character designer as the anime. It has received mixed feelings.

So if they ever did decide to make a another 'Witchblade' they could material from these two stories. But the next project for 'Gonzo' is supposed to be 'Top Cow's 'Darkness' series.

Hope this helps. ;)

tatsuzan
2007-11-02, 16:41
Kajita Kouji, who is a President-Director of Gonzo, talked about producing Witchblade anime in a interview of a magazine.

「海外の原作を日本の才能が料理する。GONZOがプロデュースすると、『ウィッチブレイド』
はこうなるというのを日本のファン、世界のファンに見せたいんです。
これは才能の融合です。世界中の原作者たちに、アニメ化をGONZOに任せてほしい。
まあ、まだ第一弾に着手したばかりなので夢のお話ですけどGONZOにアニメを作らせれば必ず面白くします 」

I try to translate a part of it....

"...Japanese talents ”cook” the overseas original. I want to show japanse and world fans, how Wichblade appear by GONZO's produce. This is fusion of the talent. I want the authors all over the world to leave anime-nization to GONZO.
Well, this is still a dream. I just started the first step.
If ask anime-nize to GONZO, we will make it interesting by all means,I promise."

(plz collect it if my translation is strange.:))

This seems to be considered a bad joke among japanse fandom.:heh:

psycho_luny
2009-06-08, 14:58
i've just recently watched witchblade and the end it was kind of like wow, it does something to me, never has any movie or anime affected me this much.

it spins in my head over and over:twitch:, and i'm the kind of guy that does not give a damm about something happening to anything and everybody, and yet it the end drives me crazy.:cool:

but it was rushed, not completed, you see that the daughter (RIHOKO/ RIKO) standing next to her origenal father, the reporter in the helicopter working to put (MASANA/ MASAMUNE) in a good light and then she dies and all of these light orbs come flying down and the serie ends:upset:, with nothing to be said wat happened to (RIHOKO) and the reporter with his story and all the other friends they have.:frustrated:

CKLerd
2009-06-09, 15:34
I recently bought the box set and finished watching it all. It was quite depressing. My overall sympathies went to Rihoko. Like some people have expressed already, it felt unfinished and real closure is what I think the series needed. I was lurking through several pages in this thread and caught a lot of the discussion about Takayama and Masane knockin' boots. Part of me sort of thinks nothing happened but if it did then Episode 19 would've been the most appropriate time for it to happen. Maybe I'm in denial. I say this because of speculation in what may have possibly happened in Episode 15 with her sans sports bra (is that what she wears?) underneath her top, Takayama's unbuttoned shirt and Tozawa finally getting through to her after who knows how many attempts he tried in calling her. Like someone already expressed on here, I think that is in poor taste on her part. I mean, damn, your daughter's basically living with a stranger obviously missing you and you go off into the arms of your own boss. Since going back to that episode my initial sympathies for Masane fell like a ton of bricks. My daughter first before anything else, that's the way I see it.

orion
2009-06-09, 22:54
I recently bought the box set and finished watching it all. It was quite depressing. My overall sympathies went to Rihoko. Like some people have expressed already, it felt unfinished and real closure is what I think the series needed. I was lurking through several pages in this thread and caught a lot of the discussion about Takayama and Masane knockin' boots. Part of me sort of thinks nothing happened but if it did then Episode 19 would've been the most appropriate time for it to happen. Maybe I'm in denial. I say this because of speculation in what may have possibly happened in Episode 15 with her sans sports bra (is that what she wears?) underneath her top, Takayama's unbuttoned shirt and Tozawa finally getting through to her after who knows how many attempts he tried in calling her. Like someone already expressed on here, I think that is in poor taste on her part. I mean, damn, your daughter's basically living with a stranger obviously missing you and you go off into the arms of your own boss. Since going back to that episode my initial sympathies for Masane fell like a ton of bricks. My daughter first before anything else, that's the way I see it.

Well, the bearer has been known in the past to have partners. ;)

The guy is rich and cute. The bearers prob don't live until retirement either. Masane is not the epitome of motherhood. They were babysitters for her before. Only this time she had more fun.

Masane and Takayama were both drunk in ep. 10 right? Things happen when you're intoxicated.

chaos_animagic
2009-07-20, 22:56
I decided out of no where to watch this anime...
Man was I pissed off at that "Child welfare agency" in the beginning few episodes... (ep 1-13)

The ending is really sad... and about Masane and Takayama...
episode 19 - I think they "did it" not because they were drunk (tho they kinda were, but the event when they kissed was like 3-5 hours later after Masane was drunk)... cause in the morning, they accept each other and is not "freaked" out... (drunk people waking up next to some body freaks out...)
Also... Masune's theme in the entire anime was... "my daughter"... every single thing she did was for Riko...

The "shell" at the end, and when Masune called out Riko's name and Riko called out Mom... made me almost shred tears.

MrAdamske
2009-12-10, 15:24
The review is a massive spoiler so don't read if you haven't watched it :)

Wow, what a series. I must admit with past posts at how it wasn't the greatest anime around in the first few episode's and how only two sided most of the characters were, but when it started getting close to the end I started to beg the gods Masune would survive some how so she would get to live with Riko and Reiji and all the others from the hotel. That poor Maria, all she wanted was a mothers love. Tozawa was a pretty obvious streotype, but as the series went on he grew and started to care for Riko and Masune and even stuck up for Masune while she was fighting the horde of Iweapons. Reiji surprised me a lot, he looked and seemed like a corporate jockey with that assistant of his but like Tozawa he grew as well to care for Masune and even for Riko which warmed my heart to see he was at least human. When I learned that dead humans were used in the making of Iweapons I thought WTF some people will go to some extreme measures to make a buck but they did look really cool. One thing I must say is that this series, it has no filler which in my opinion makes it damn good not to drag anything out. So as the series drew to a close I finally got to the last episode thinking "I really do hope Masune, Reiji and Riko make it out alive". But alas was not to be as Masune killed Maria and bade her farewell, and discover that all the Iweapons present want to be set free as well, she jumps to the top of the tower and prepares to sacrifice herself so no one else will own the witchblade, mainly her daughter. I started to feel genuinely upset when you see Riko run to the river bank and shout "Mummy!" and then listen to her mother tell her why she is doing what she is and to live her life with her father (Basically). Then it got really emotional, the music composer got it right on the button with their chose of song the the moment while watching Masunes daughters shell in a bottle necklace materialize around her neck and riko holding her father hand practically pushed us over the edge and reduced us to tears at the unfairness yet understandable actions of Masune and her saying "Riko..." while only being able to see her outline in an all white picture ones seald the deal in our view of Witchblade having an awesome ending and defiantly worth watching.

Poetic Justice
2009-12-11, 16:19
The first 12 or so episodes really dragged the series down with the horrid pacing and such, And the ending could have been handled better, I feel.

Overall a good show, I'd recommend it.

YuriEcchiGirl
2011-09-01, 09:21
The Witchblade anime is so awesome, I like it a lot & own the complete collection DVD boxset :D