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Bones has finally put a release date for the last 4 episodes, which were going to be DVD only. 2 disks with 2 episodes each, scheduled for Jan 23 and Feb 29. Can't wait to see them :)
NenMaster
2003-12-02, 11:57
ditto, lets see what we are missing :)
SidSavage
2003-12-03, 10:40
As long as each episode consists of entirely new animation, I'll be happy as a pig in s#!@.
kannakills
2003-12-06, 06:14
Only 2 episodes per dvd? >_> Hmmm.... Boohoo, my wallet... oh well, must see the ending! ^_^
Aren't these DVDs coming now in December? :confused:
At least Animenfo states that...
biscuitless
2003-12-07, 17:25
y r they only going to be released on dvd, and so far from now. didnt they say they would be released in december? i love wolfs rain
So Ep. 26 isn't the last episode (I'm only on episode 19)?
DrWho2002
2003-12-08, 06:57
Ep 26 was the last episode shown on TV. Ep 30 will be the final episode of the series. The reason for this is because of the month long break they took on the series (showing the recap eps instead). They still have a full original 26 ep commitment to fill, hence the 4 DVD only episodes.
I have been waiting for this for so long now it seems.....the series was spectacular..not counting the recpaps. I hope that they tie up all the ends and really do an amazing peice of work to end it all.
No wonder they had those episodes. I thought they were trying to save money or something.
Yea, the recap eps were horrible, I'm glad we'll almost be able to watch the new eps. ^^
Gandalf on Crack
2004-01-18, 17:25
Is there anywhere you can preorder these? or find more information about them?
DrWho2002
2004-01-18, 18:46
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBA-1609
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBA-1793
Comes out on Jan 23 and Feb 25 respectively.
7thMethuselah
2004-01-18, 19:45
Ep 26 was the last episode shown on TV. Ep 30 will be the final episode of the series. The reason for this is because of the month long break they took on the series (showing the recap eps instead). They still have a full original 26 ep commitment to fill, hence the 4 DVD only episodes.
I was under the impression that because of the fact that alot of fans weren't satisfied with the original ending the added another ending or an epilogue in those 4 episodes, I could be mistaken however. Personally I loved Wolf's Rain but somehow the end wasn't all that (or I just didn't get it)
Gandalf on Crack
2004-01-18, 22:53
Any idea why 2 episodes would be 47$? Will it become (alot) cheaper soon?
Seems alot....hopefully will end up on ebay...
That's is the usual price for Japanese dvds.
DrWho2002
2004-01-19, 03:06
Any idea why 2 episodes would be 47$? Will it become (alot) cheaper soon?
Seems alot....hopefully will end up on ebay...
You do realize those links I posted are for R2 DVD's (i.e. Japanese audio/no Subtitles)? You won't see the R1's for those eps for quite sometime, since the show hasn't even come out here at all yet. The only way they'll "end up on eBay" as you say will be as crappy HK bootleg DVD's.
Gandalf on Crack
2004-01-19, 21:51
Heh, thanks for informing, I don't have much experience with buying new animes ;)
Snuble07
2004-01-21, 04:45
HOO WEE, can't wait... although I'd rather a second series....
NoSanninWa
2004-01-21, 04:53
Just so everyone knows. The word has come down from on high about Wolf's Rain 27-30. We are not listing it on AnimeSuki. It is either licensed or else so close to it that we can't tell the difference.
SpikeSpencer
2004-01-27, 16:40
It could be me, but I got te feeling that the series itself never got as much credit as it deserved. Following some of the other Bones productions it was masterful. And though I personally thought the ending was good, this second coming has gotten me truely stoked. I watch the first in the series of 4 new episodes and found my self completely back on the series. Its one of my favorite sows in a while and I'm wondering how are others feeling about this awesome show?
stormy001_M1A2
2004-01-27, 16:44
BONES rendering of females is very sensual and nice. Something about their way of drawing woman get into me, like girls of Rahxephon and Wolf's Rain.
I enjoyed watching Wolf's Rain. I don't think it was a great story, really, but it was entertaining enough. Art and music were fantastic, of course.
I was very let down by the "ending". It created more questions and didn't resolve everything. I am looking forward to those last episodes. I think Cartoon Network will be airing the series, I wonder if they'll get the last eps, too.
Aside:
Something about Cheza's eyes really rocked. Not just that they were red, either. It's worth watching the series just for her eyes. :)
Leo_Otaku
2004-01-27, 22:13
I enjoyed watching Wolf's Rain. I don't think it was a great story, really, but it was entertaining enough. Art and music were fantastic, of course.
I was very let down by the "ending". It created more questions and didn't resolve everything. I am looking forward to those last episodes. I think Cartoon Network will be airing the series, I wonder if they'll get the last eps, too.
Aside:
Something about Cheza's eyes really rocked. Not just that they were red, either. It's worth watching the series just for her eyes. :)
Where did u see the ending i swear i read they only released 27-30 on DVD
I just saw Eposide 27 (currently downloading 28) and all I can say is the it is WONDERFUL! and GREAT! it really continues with the story and it is getting much better... what a good series.
SpikeSpencer
2004-01-28, 02:30
I just saw Eposide 27 (currently downloading 28) and all I can say is the it is WONDERFUL! and GREAT! it really continues with the story and it is getting much better... what a good series.
Yeah, the story moved with the same pace it had during the first 26 episodes, and without giving anythign away, some things were shocking...and err...sad
Where did u see the ending i swear i read they only released 27-30 on DVD
"Ending" was in reference to episode 26. That's why I used the quotes.
I just saw Eposide 27 (currently downloading 28) and all I can say is the it is WONDERFUL! and GREAT! it really continues with the story and it is getting much better... what a good series.
<insult removed>. Is it soo hard to wait for a dvd release?
Now now JAppi, insulting people isn't big or hard or clever. If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything.
Milliniar
2004-01-28, 15:49
i think it was stupid of them to have 4 filler recap episodes in row then have it "end" at 26. then make four new episodes for dvd. BUt ya watching episodes 27 and 28 reminded me why i liked it after teh stupid recaps episodes and ripoff "end" this now makes it back to my top 10 list....well if i had one....mine changes from day to day for most of them
bentopower
2004-01-29, 00:40
just finished watching ep 27 & 28. i got a feeling that kiba may be the only wolf left to reach paradise in the end.
When u watched the Ending sequence of each ep, u can see only a white wolf running beside the moon, so that also gave me the impression that he will be the only one left. what do u guys think?
Leo_Otaku
2004-01-29, 00:52
"Ending" was in reference to episode 26. That's why I used the quotes.
oh ic ^-^" Gomen-nasai
Where have you guys bought this DVD? I would really like to get it. They do know how to make women look awesome :) When Blue is in her human form, she has the coolest looking eyes, same with Kiba.
Where have you guys bought this DVD?
Easy, you can find Ep 27 and 28 here (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBA-1609) and Ep 29 and 30 here (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBA-1793).
Do you realise that these are the Japanese releases they are talking about. The first DVD (ep 27/28) just came out and the second DVD (ep 29/30) is due out on 25th Feb.
Do you realise that these are the Japanese releases they are talking about. The first DVD (ep 27/28) just came out and the second DVD (ep 29/30) is due out on 25th Feb.
Thanks for clarifying, didn't realize they were the jap versions :( Are they planning to release these as Region 1 discs in the US? If so, would you happen to know when?
Thanks
DrWho2002
2004-01-30, 00:36
Yes they are planning on releasing them in R1. I don't believe a release schedule is known yet for Wolf's Rain, but it will be airing on Adult Swim (?) in the US in April. I don't know if they will have eps 27-30, but they probably will.
microlith
2004-01-30, 07:17
They will have the new episodes, guaranteed.
What's unknown is if CN will air the 4 recap episodes, which is unlikely since they're wholly unnecessary.
Go-lytely
2004-01-31, 22:33
Unnecessary yes, but still entertaining. I thought the series was depressing as a whole but the extra eps take it one step further.
SpikeSpencer
2004-01-31, 23:03
Unnecessary yes, but still entertaining. I thought the series was depressing as a whole but the extra eps take it one step further.
Can't tell if you mean that is a bad thing....depressing it may be(to some) ...dramic perhaps... overly dramic probably...regardless there is alot of emotion in this series, I like it for that reason adn its an interesting idea done without being cheesy or completely frasical, that adds to its appeal... and besides anything Yoko Kanno doest he music for already is good in my eyes. ^-^
Mao-Yenrai
2004-02-09, 01:48
What do you guys think of Wolf's rain now that episode 27 has been released? And what did you guys think of the series of a whole up to now? Are the days of Yoko Kanno and Shinichiro done?
What do you guys think of Wolf's rain now that episode 27 has been released? And what did you guys think of the series of a whole up to now? Are the days of Yoko Kanno and Shinichiro done?
See this thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=1953&page=1&pp=20).
I just watched it and all I can say is that this series is too sad :( If you thought that episodes 27 and 28 were sad then this one doubles them :( Wolf's Rain has to be one of the saddest anime ever. I can't even imagine how is the last episode going to be, but I suppose it is the saddest of all :(
Has anyone else watched it yet?
Go-lytely
2004-02-29, 02:01
Well I hope the last ep is good.
I am still in shock from Cher's death. Poor Hub, at least he's in a better place now.
Oh man I just watched it and it was very sad indeed :( . However thats what makes a series great and memorable. This is definetly one of the best series that I have ever seen. What an emotional rollercoaster. I bet the next episode will top em all being the last that is.
7thMethuselah
2004-02-29, 06:16
I dunno somehow they makers decide to quickly kill anyone not-wolf, and i was hoping for a more comprehensible end but that hasn't improved either. But we can easilly guess how the show will end, kiba and darcia will figth, i expect blue's friend ( forgot the name) will sacrifice himslef when the battle turns bad and we get some kind of a happy and when they reach paradise. Episodes 27-29 have been quite sad indeed. Anyway they said it won't take long anymore to epi 30 :).
30 will be the end...can't wait...
Carpe Jugulum
2004-02-29, 17:50
WTF sorry if i sound stupid is there 30 episodes i saw to ep 26 and thought it had ended and didnt dl any more :heh: saddest series i dont know about that....
so the series goes on after 26 lol i thought it ended VERY poorly that could be the fact cos it hadnt ended when i finished watching (actually forget about what i said about it not being the saddest series i shouldnt comment if i havent seen it all)
7thMethuselah
2004-02-29, 19:47
WTF sorry if i sound stupid is there 30 episodes i saw to ep 26 and thought it had ended and didnt dl any more :heh: saddest series i dont know about that....
so the series goes on after 26 lol i thought it ended VERY poorly that could be the fact cos it hadnt ended when i finished watching (actually forget about what i said about it not being the saddest series i shouldnt comment if i havent seen it all)
the tv series ended after episode 26 but there are 4 additional episodes which can only be found on the DVD's. Well I also thought the end was rahter weak but imo it's not getting better in epis 27-30 (good thing 30 is the real end)
SpikeSpencer
2004-02-29, 20:08
the tv series ended after episode 26 but there are 4 additional episodes which can only be found on the DVD's. Well I also thought the end was rahter weak but imo it's not getting better in epis 27-30 (good thing 30 is the real end)
Bah, while I am with you that the first 26 episodes had left me wanting a better ending, these last 3(so far) episodes are tying things together nicely... as if they had planned these all along.
The fact that it is sad(and I do agree it is) does not hinder its greatest... Not only does it look incredible.. or that the music is awesome .. but the story isnt topical and has emotion.. particularly these last few episodes .. I personally think that adds to the strength of the show... I am enjoying it as much as I had when the first 26 episodes were out and the last when 27-28 came out. Great show
DrWho2002
2004-03-01, 02:03
They DID plan it this way from the beginning... -_- I think this was explained before in some thread somewhere...
I was really thinking about watching this anime sometime, damn to many things to do before hand tho. All consider now knowing it has a "good" ending.
AnimeOni
2004-03-01, 05:25
They DID plan it this way from the beginning... -_- I think this was explained before in some thread somewhere...
There were four filler eps centering on each of the wolves (more like character profiles) and how they became the way they are so ep 26 (IMO) was more like ep 22.
Well i just finished watching this great series, yay its finally over. Very depressing episode but can someone explain to me the ending i just don't get it?
Carpe Jugulum
2004-03-01, 12:38
i know they were just annoying i felt like skiping the episodes but then u might miss something good o well looks like im going to have to get the next 4 episodes does it :D
BluWacky
2004-03-01, 17:37
Well i just finished watching this great series, yay its finally over. Very depressing episode but can someone explain to me the ending i just don't get it?
Well, here's what I reckon happened...
Kiba "opened Paradise" when his blood mingled with Cheza's and flowed to the water where Darcia got vapourised. The Book of the Moon's final pages were only revealed as the rain (the Wolf's Rain?) fell upon them, signifying that Paradise had been opened.
Paradise's creation was basically a "reset" for the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Wolf's Rain supposed to be set after the ice caps have melted and the world is basically ruined? Well, the opening of Paradise wiped out humanity and let it start over. The only thing we know remained is Darcia's single lupine eye, which was the only surviving remnant of the wolves which (slightly) tainted Paradise.
We flashforward to what would be the present day - the world has reset, remember? - and see that the five main characters live again, although not knowing each other. Each lives the life that they would have led if they'd been allowed their true natures, perhaps - and Kiba was always stray (sorry, had to get the pun in somewhere), hence the solo running.
At least that's what I think. It was a poignant ending to a brilliant series.
I liked how they ended it. As usual in anime, lots of unanswered questions left to the watcher's imagination.
From my understanding, the world was reborn into paradise but Darcia's eye tainted it (what would be our current world with its problems). The wolves were reborn into regular humans, and as Darcia said, forgot they once were wolves.
Then we see the final scene which merges with the opening of the series and we see the wolves and Cheza (just the wolves; none of the other characters show, like Blue, Hub or Cher) while Kiba runs through the city.
It was truly beautiful @_@ yet so mysterious
That's all I have to say.
Ahh ok I see very good explanation. Thanks for the replies:)
Remeber back in epsiode one where it forshadowed the end...actually you don't see the blood at all...
JOJOS'STAR
2004-03-02, 13:09
So..whats with the end ?? It Starts all over.. I wonder if kiba also died or if he remains the same. Everytime the world comes to an end..Does he recall the past worlds..I dont think so..
I Also thought it would be great if Hige (the Traitor) kept going alone in the end..Even after Kiba..
Pure speculation but I thought it would be great since Hige was the one with the most uncertain path and situation among the group to reach paradise ^^
Damn it.. I cant beleive it, I cried like a stupid moron. TWICE!! :twitch: for Toboe and Hige..
Absolutly SAD! I just advise everyone before they start watching it ^____________^
Wolf's Rain has reach the second spot in my all time favourite anime.. Fucking GreaT!!!!!!!!! ^ ^ The end is just visualy incomparable. The Art is at its best.
Sugetsu I love you :love: THX a LOT!
7thMethuselah
2004-03-02, 13:23
after seeing 27-29 I was afraid the end would suck but it didn't. A beautifull ending:
I didn't get it why suddenly everyone had to die in 27-29 but now it all makes sense. Paradise means the world will be reborn but in order to do that everything first has to dissapear. Kiba was the last one and he died as well...
A very nice touch to see our current day world as the reincarnation (yeah the end looked very bhoeddistic to me) of and old destroyed one. About Darcia's eye tainting it all, I don't know what to make of that.
Also, the one thing that I didn't completely like was the fact that Darcia seemed to act completely out of character in these last episodes. In the regular series he seemd to be after Paradise in order to see his deceased wife again but when he has the chance to enter his paradise he doesn't and suddnely want's to be a wolf and get in their Paradise???? It doesn't make sense to me at all, can anyone explain this one? What were Darcia's motives anyway??
after seeing 27-29 I was afraid the end would suck but it didn't. A beautifull ending:
Also, the one thing that I didn't completely like was the fact that Darcia seemed to act completely out of character in these last episodes. In the regular series he seemd to be after Paradise in order to see his deceased wife again but when he has the chance to enter his paradise he doesn't and suddnely want's to be a wolf and get in their Paradise???? It doesn't make sense to me at all, can anyone explain this one? What were Darcia's motives anyway??
I was afraid the ending would suck too. I thought the first 26 episodes where just "meh". Good art and music and, although the story kept me interested, it didn't really do anything special for me. The end really pulled it together. I loved it.
He said in the last couple eps that once he had the wolf's eye he saw the nobles' paradise for the fake that it was. That's why he needs to become a wolf. The wolf's paradise is the true one. Not sure when he realizes his dead love wouldn't be there. He does know that you can't take anything with you to paradise but I don't remember if he realizes that means everything has to end, even his own life. I'd watch it again to find out biut I'll cry again. :)
Since I saw the ending of wolf rain this one has now enter to my favorite top ten list anime of all time :D
1. Saint Seiya.
2. Berserk.
3 Future Boy connan.
4. Rose of Versalles
5. Hunter x Hunter/ Naruto
6. Candy Candy
7. Lain
8. Kimiga Nozumo Eien/Wolf RAin
9. Hikaru no Go
10. Full metal Panic Fufumo.
And what about you guys? where would you put wolf's rain after watching its perfect ending? :D
7thMethuselah
2004-03-02, 15:18
Since I saw the ending of wolf rain this one has now enter to my favorite top ten list anime of all time :D
And what about you guys? where would you put wolf's rain after watching its perfect ending? :D
It's good but not that good to make it to my top 5 which is
1. Love Hina
2. Rurouni Kenshin OVA - Reminisence
3. SaishuuHeiki Kanojo
4. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien
5. Neon Genesis Evangelion
back on topic
it's still weird to me, if he knows he can't find his wife in either the aristocrats or the wolf's paradise then why is he so persistent about getting there, after all it seems he has nothing to gain ...
To say it with neneko's words : It's a mystery roo da :heh:
Killerattacks
2004-03-02, 16:04
I thought the 4 last eps of WR were great but...
it was sad to watch all main characters dying. And the end wasnt 100% my taste... All the characters we liked died and only their reincarnations can continue to live, but they are mor or less other persons so I dont really care :/
But nonetheless Wolfs Rain made it into my top 5 together with:
- NGE
- Vision of Escaflowne
- FLCL/Excel Saga
- Full MEtal Panic
- Hajime no Ippo/ Great Teacher Onizuka
JOJOS'STAR
2004-03-02, 19:18
I didn't get it why suddenly everyone had to die in 27-29 but now it all makes sense. Paradise means the world will be reborn but in order to do that everything first has to dissapear. Kiba was the last one and he died as well...
A very nice touch to see our current day world as the reincarnation (yeah the end looked very bhoeddistic to me) of and old destroyed one. About Darcia's eye tainting it all, I don't know what to make of that.
Also, the one thing that I didn't completely like was the fact that Darcia seemed to act completely out of character in these last episodes. In the regular series he seemd to be after Paradise in order to see his deceased wife again but when he has the chance to enter his paradise he doesn't and suddnely want's to be a wolf and get in their Paradise???? It doesn't make sense to me at all, can anyone explain this one? What were Darcia's motives anyway??
Well He realised He had no chance of seing his dead wife ever again even in paradise (thats what he said) So his motives ? he dint had any. He just represented The beast of the end: The last enemy. Darcia: A soul tainted by the manifest of the world's evilness. He's the story's fallen angel i'd say ^^
The part i mist is the reason why he killed the oji-san's family .. :confused:
Here it goes for the pool
1- Kareshi No Kanojo
2- Sakura Diary
3- Wolf's Rain
4- Gunslinger Girl
5- Naruto
6- Dragon Ball Z
7- Peace Maker Kurogane
8- Kodomo No Omocha
9- Tenshi Na Konomaiki
10- Hanada Shounen Shi
New thought:
He wants to go to paradise as a wolf, even though he won't see his wife, because he sees how humans are dirty and destructive. He's not on the side of the wolves, nor the humans. But he becomes a wolf to attain the real paradise for himself, to rid himself of mankind.
I'd have to watch the whole series through again before I decide where to rank it. I think it just falls short of the top 10 right now.
7thMethuselah
2004-03-02, 20:16
The part i mist is the reason why he killed the oji-san's family .. :confused:
Didn't Jagara's wolf hunters and not Darcia kill the old dude's family. I think it was some scheme to get to the wolves and kill/capture them (?) but I cannot exactly remember how or why...
Didn't Jagara's wolf hunters and not Darcia kill the old dude's family. I think it was some scheme to get to the wolves and kill/capture them (?) but I cannot exactly remember how or why...
Yeah. But one of the wolves is where Darcia got the eye, it seems. The old dude remembered the eye. How does Darcia get that eye?
brightman
2004-03-02, 20:44
Well, I didn't like the series much and after all this time I still don't. The last 4 episodes were pretty damn predictable since it ended almost the same way as what I predicted in another board (that everyone would die except maybe for Kiba and everyone comes back to life--well the Kiba part is wrong but he was the last to die neverthless)
Anyway, the series just lacked direction IMO, and the characters failed to interest me since their personalities are all pretty cliched and bland. Great animation by BONES, and great music by Yoko Kanno but this probably doesn't even make my Top 50.
JOJOS'STAR
2004-03-02, 22:05
Yeah. But one of the wolves is where Darcia got the eye, it seems. The old dude remembered the eye. How does Darcia get that eye?
Well Darcia in his wolf shape and the wolf we see in the flashback looks prety much the same..
the characters failed to interest me since their personalities are all pretty cliched and bland
Hmm you must have missed something.. I'm not the type too leak a tear for an anime.. And not that emotionnal realy :twitch: I realy got into those character. I tought they were very realistic. Maybe you couldn't accept deep down the fact they were wolves and should not have those kind of personnality. ^^
AkihaTohno
2004-03-03, 18:28
I didn't watch all of Wolf's Rain, only up to episode like... 5...
Did Cher die at any point during the series? Cause I was like "If she dies, i won't watch the rest"
Go-lytely
2004-03-03, 18:43
I didn't watch all of Wolf's Rain, only up to episode like... 5...
Did Cher die at any point during the series? Cause I was like "If she dies, i won't watch the rest"
Yep, she dies first and her death was the most poignant to me. Especially when they use the slow motion and you see the look of horror in Hubbs eyes. *sniff* Everybody elses deaths were like.. eh.
AkihaTohno
2004-03-03, 20:05
Can you tell me what episode Lytely?
AkihaTohno
2004-03-04, 17:46
I watched epiosde 27... and that SUCKED.
Finally done watching Wolf's Rain. What a great series. Before I started watching this series, I tought it was just going to be a werewolf show, boy I was so mistaken. This series just grow and grow beyond my expectation. There are alot of love put into this series.
What I like most about this series probably the characters. I'm not sure how to explain this well. Instead of focusing on one or two main characters, they manage to make all the characters alive. Even the story of Hubb and Cher, that's just so touching. Each of the characters has their own story to tell.
I didn't like Toboe in the beginning, he was such a wimp and he was always get himself into trouble. I tought he was just a minor character and I don't even know what's the point of Kiba and everyone let him tag along at all. But little by little watching the little pup grow up just brought me some special statisfaction. I was so proud of him when he had his first kill and the others aknowledge him. It also brought tears to me when he was gone. I didn't know since when I become so fond of this little pup.
FinFangFoom
2004-03-11, 05:10
Damn, I just finished the series. I am soooo depressed, and now I have to go to bed. :(
I was wondering, does anyone know for sure what the deal was with them making these last four episodes? I was under the impression that the series was done at episode 26 but because people were upset about the four straight recap episodes that they made 4 more.
If that's true, do you think they decided "Fine, if there going to whine about it. LET"S KILL ALL THEIR FAVORITE CHARACTERS! :frustrated: :fingers: "
Not only was I upset about them dying, but they all died failing at what they were trying to do, protecting someone they cared about.
dreamless
2004-03-11, 06:26
I always thought it's some combination of EVA and Lain endings... :eyebrow:
Wolf's Rain was indeed one of the best anime shows i´ve watched.
Awesome ending, although it was pretty depressing and sad, they still did it so good so i cant say anything else :)
Didn't really get the ending first, but now when i've read this topic, i understand, pretty smart IMO ;)
Fighter Volk
2004-04-01, 09:01
This post has spoilers galore.
27-29 were my favorite episodes in the series, and while I enjoyed 30, I have a few complaints... first of all, I think they should have broken it up into two episodes. The main reason for that is I think that Blue's, Hige's, Tsume's and even Darcia's deaths were too hurried. The deaths of Cher, Hubb, Quent, and Toboe's were given enough time to make us feel for them, and I was crying like a baby through most of those scenes. But it seems that in episode 30, BONES was hurrying to kill everybody in 24 minutes. If they had made it two episodes instead of just one, I'm sure it would have been much more emotional.
What's interesting is that Darcia (and Hige) was my favorite character in Episodes 1-26, but turned very hateable in the last four episodes. When you think on the circumstances, it makes sense, but I still think it was a little abrupt.
The ending itself was beautiful. Kiba opened Paradise, fulfilling his goal, but lost everything and everyone he had ever loved in life. While watching, I was thinking that the series should have ended with those few shots of Paradise. I was a little mad that the very end had all four of them revived and in a present-day city, which was very un-Paradise to me... but after reading this thread, it make sense, seeing how Darcia's eye poisoned it. Still, I was just a bit upset with the whole city thing at the end.
It was a good ending for an amazing series, but I still wish they hadn't rushed through the deaths of all those major characters.
dreamless
2004-04-01, 09:34
I love the ending, I think in the very end it's more like a recollection of the wolves' past rather than a world reset.
Fighter Volk
2004-04-01, 11:05
I love the ending, I think in the very end it's more like a recollection of the wolves' past rather than a world reset.
Hmm.
If so, then that's pretty good. I just can't imagine the paradise Kiba strived so hard for turning into a present-day situation with all the wolves alive again? I mean, Toboe reached a kind of paradise, and Hige will be with Blue forever... reviving them all would be really messed up.
gohmifune
2004-04-01, 21:38
has anyone decided to pick it up, or has it been liscensed I've heard nothing about it being such, just the TV series.
Is the OVA the last 4 episodes that were DVD only? The ones that actually completed the series? That would be licensed if that is what you are refering to.
gohmifune
2004-04-01, 22:08
I don't think they were the last episodes, I've only seen it referrend to as a sequel, if anyone could clear up this discrepancy, it would be appreciated.
As far as I can tell, they are calling the last 4 eps a sequel. Anime News Network, for example, and other random web sites.
DrWho2002
2004-04-02, 00:46
It's part of the original TV series, and is included in the license.
7thMethuselah
2004-04-02, 11:55
Judging by the meaning of OVA the four last episodes 27-30 are the OVA, and I seriously doubt that there could be a sequel, the story pretty much ends at the end of episode 30
not much left to tell is there, after they've killed everyone :heh:
Yamano667
2004-04-03, 13:26
Its finito ..:D the series are done :D
no more episodes ...and now kids lets move on into other new series :D
im getting it within th enext week ^^ i hope its good and worth the time
You do realize those links I posted are for R2 DVD's (i.e. Japanese audio/no Subtitles)? You won't see the R1's for those eps for quite sometime, since the show hasn't even come out here at all yet. The only way they'll "end up on eBay" as you say will be as crappy HK bootleg DVD's.
Hey I just want to point out...DO NOT buy Wolf's Rain from Ebay especially if it says it's coming from Hong Kong. Some small Hong Kong company translates the Japanese language into English subtitles so as you would guess, you can't understand a damn thing they're saying. Trust me you'll be lost because I bought the damn thing and I did get lost :p Just a word of warning either wait til it is released in America or find another way to get it. Download it from some torrent site or get all the episodes off Kazaa or something. I did and that was also a pain (baka) but it is a great serious though and well worth the pains to get it ^_^
Kazahaya
2004-04-18, 04:33
I've watched those few episodes. They do give a more complete ending to the series, and there are no recaps! :)
a must watch (and there are a few new songs too, if you haven't already got the second WR soundtrack :D)
7thMethuselah
2004-04-18, 08:39
I agree if you like Wolf's rain then you have to get these 4 episodes because they are the real end to Wolf's Rain. Without them episode 26 makes no sense at all ...
rorosama
2004-04-27, 22:38
I just saw the first show and i have a couple of questions.
Are they always in wolf form even when they look like humans? I ask because when tsume tried to grab the boy he bit him. That left me hanging. Also when kiba and hige are walking, they show their wolf shadows.
Do the fighting scenes show them fighting as humans are wolves?
Is yaiden's dog a wolf?
Thanks!
Superchop
2004-04-27, 22:54
They don't ever turn human...all it is is an illusion...and all the fighting scenes are them fighting as wolves..but with the human illusion...so they don't arouse too much attention when they walk on the streets
and as for Yaiden's dog...you'll find out somewhere between the series
She's half wolf/half dog
you can do a search, and see if there are any other Wolf's Rain threads...but i don't know how many there would be after the forum crash...
ArbalestAS
2004-05-02, 00:06
i was watching wolf's rain episode 2 on Cartoon Network just a while ago, and it seemed interesting, so i was thinking of buying it when it comes out on dvd, but i'm still hesistant, cause i heard that there's couple of recap eps in a row, and that the ending kinda crapped out and the end. but i heard that there was a an extra ending or something thats really makes out for most of the series letdowns but are they planning to release those episodes on dvd? i think it was like episodes 27-30?
or is there another series coming out soon or still in release that i should start collecting? .hack//dusk, or azumanga, or anything?
microlith
2004-05-02, 01:18
All of Wolf's Rain will be released on DVD.
The recap episodes will probably end up as extras, since there's no way they could reasonably expect people to buy an entire DVD of useless recap episodes.
Sorry to revive this thread but...
Wolf's rain ending reminded me of Sailor Moon 1st season ending... I mean... everyone dying and all that, suddenly, world resets and everything goes back to the beginning, where nobody knows each other and all that...
About Wolf's rain ending... It's like some ppl said before. Kiba's blood mingles with Chesa's... Darcia's tainted eye gives the "new" world a dark side [black crows, i think, for example]...
Then, it starts to rain wolf's rain [?] and everything gets reseted.
However, the fact that "paradise" actually was a simple reset, kind of shocked me... I thought of a paradise with lots of green and flowers everywhere, Blue and Hige making puppies ^_^ and all that...
But NO... everything goes back to "normal", with the same crappy world the series started with. Nobody knows each other, Kiba plays the lone wolf role, Tsume the rebel one, etc...
I really can't explain why Hubb, his wife [can't remember her name], Yaiden and Blue didn't appear in the ending. Did they all vanish because they weren't worthy of getting into paradise?, or did the producers think that it would be unnecessary to show them? It goes for Darcia and Hamona as well.
Maybe I got everything mixed up, but... after paradise's reset, shouldn't humans be created again from wolves? If so, why the hell didn't they show it?! If not, =(
Oh, btw...
About Darcia's final desire to get to paradise...
I believe his new wish is to reset everything into a chaotic dark world, a sort of revenge for something.
I cried a few times, for example, when Toboe dies and Tsume sits by him... Toboe's character surely developed from being a wimp to a grown up wolf. I remember the episode where he kills that big sea wolf [or whatever]... music really excited me.
I surely felt like crap when Kiba says those words from the beginning of the series... that there was no paradise... T_T
btw2 + off topic...
I read on animenfo a review quite interesting about the characters developement... I kind of agree and disagree with whoever wrote it.
I'm talking about the one written by VivaFruit (http://www.animenfo.com/review.php?id=1138&page=2&n=qjwjff&t=wolf_s_rain&type=anime)
Yes, there are 4 recaps in a row. I can handle one or two spread throughout a 26 ep series. But 4 in a row! Stupid, unless, when it aired on television, there was a month or two between the last ep and the first recap.
The series is 30 episodes. 26 eps aired on TV and the last 4 were only on DVD. The ending is very good. I assume the American license includes those last 4 episodes. I'm going to wait until I see it on Cartoon Network before I start buying DVDs, though. The series sucks without those 4 episodes.
I liked .hack//DUSK It was kinda like a shorter, lighter, funny SIGN. If you think .hack//SIGN would be good like that, then I reccommend it. I greatly enjoyed both series.
7thMethuselah
2004-05-02, 06:12
episode 26 isn't the real ending, you need to see 27-30 to know how the story ends. They are supposed to be featured on the DVD's as well. There were 4 recaps in a row somewhere around episode 15. If you buy the DVD's you can easilly skip these nothing interesting happens in them.
Yamano667
2004-05-02, 14:15
if you want to star collecting anime get all 12 ghibli's movies
for my part they are great movies for any anime collector
and juuni kooki ..the manga and the anime; is another great masterpiece
:D
[QUOTE=ArbalestAS is there another series coming out soon or still in release that i should start collecting? .hack//dusk, or azumanga, or anything?[/QUOTE]
jennwenn
2004-05-02, 14:50
Spoilers obviously since this discusses the ending and death scenes:
I have to agree with what an earlier poster said that this series lacked direction. Despite the plot, the series went nowhere. The main characters were cliched and I didn't care that they died. The characters that were not one-dimensional were the first to die (Blue, old man, Tsume). While of course, Kiba and Cheza, the most personality-lacking, cliched characters of the entire show are given a dramatic focus. Phfft.
Not to mention how melodramatic the deaths were. Cher falls off a cliff, yet she's still alive, hardly bleeding, and can talk. Um, yeah. I have to admit the scene was beautiful but it lacked strength. A few other deaths similarly defied realism. This is obviously a fantasy series, but it could have at least tried to keep the deaths from being over the top and rushed. I felt the time constraints too much.
That being said, the ending was still depressing even for me who didn't care for the characters. The sense of desolation from the coming destruction of the world was well done in the empty setting. Music, A+++++++. :) This series had such an amazing premise and artwork, its a shame about the plot and characters.
mah_damey
2004-05-11, 23:11
ah.. so sad.. so sad.. juss watched ep 30.. too rushed but still rlly good.. so sad.. o so sad..
Hi all...I need a favor. Would anyone like to send me an outline of what actually happened in the last few eps. I was so into this show and was waiting for the end eps but I had to move and all this crap...without a computer. Now I have it and the shows are not available anywhere now. I am going to order it online but I still want the outline.
Can anyone give me a hand? :bow: Thanxs!
I read all of the threads in this topic and everything I have read is out of place you know. I know what happened basically but not how.
Thursday
2004-09-22, 09:17
Hi all...I need a favor. Would anyone like to send me an outline of what actually happened in the last few eps.
Episode 27 - Soul's Whereabouts
Jagara's unfinished Paradise plot has sent the world into an unstable rebirth cycle and it's up to Kiba and Cheza to reach the door to the true Paradise before it's too late. The race to the finish line claims its first life, as Cher is killed in a horrible car accident. The end is coming.
Episode 28 - Remorseful Gun Sound
A huge explosion heralds the arrival of the wicked Darcia, still bent on claiming Paradise for himself. Remorseless, he guns down Toboe and Quent, who die in each other's arms. Darcia then throws down the gauntlet to Kiba, daring him to reach Paradise.
Episode 29 - High Tide, High Time
It's a slow crawl up the side of the mountain, the summit of which holds the gate to Paradise. Lebowski joins his ex-wife in death, plummeting to his doom after losing his grip. It's just the four wolves and Blue remaining, as Darcia makes his final crazed attempt to stop Kiba and Cheza from remaking the world.
Episode 30 - Wolf's Rain
In his desperate, brutal lust for paradise, Darcia kills Blue, Hige and Tsume, who all bravely fight to keep him from Cheza; in the end, it's all on Kiba to bring him down. Just when it looks like he's about to win, Paradise rejects Darcia and furiously destroys him, leaving behind only his eyeball. Cheza and Kiba come together, and the world is reborn as a beautiful garden. The Earth begins anew, and as a farewell, all four wolves are alive again.
The meaning of Paradise is that; rebirth. The world is reborn once more (which it has been so many times before.) Darcia's Eye in the puddle of water symbolizes that evil hasn't left the world, because it never will. And once more all of the characters are alive in the new world, where they don't know each other. Only one of these persons are still on his way to find a paradise that never was, and that is Kiba. We see him run away from the others, as the introduction theme 'Stray' starts playing.
I remember this incredible scene that brought me to tears, from this episode. It so points out to how stuff just might work in our world as well. (I might recall some details wrong though...) You see this beautiful butterfly, and the screen zooms onto one of his colourful wings, which gets larger and larger until you see nothing but the small atoms and molecules... It keeps on zooming, until we reach space, which zooms until we're back again. I think this symbolizes that everything goes round and round, just like the atoms cirlce round each other, as the planet's circle around a sun.
Really fascinating ending. I hope I helped out a bit, at least. By the way, this whole thread should be spoiler marked instead, so everyone won't have to spoiler tag everything they write.
if you want to star collecting anime get all 12 ghibli's movies
for my part they are great movies for any anime collector
Indeed. Anything by Hayao Miyazaki, Isao Takahata or Studio Ghibli is the best. Deep and just... Simply wonderful stories that stick with you til' you die.
I have to agree with what an earlier poster said that this series lacked direction. Despite the plot, the series went nowhere. The main characters were cliched and I didn't care that they died. The characters that were not one-dimensional were the first to die (Blue, old man, Tsume). While of course, Kiba and Cheza, the most personality-lacking, cliched characters of the entire show are given a dramatic focus. Phfft.
Not to mention how melodramatic the deaths were. Cher falls off a cliff, yet she's still alive, hardly bleeding, and can talk. Um, yeah. I have to admit the scene was beautiful but it lacked strength. A few other deaths similarly defied realism. This is obviously a fantasy series, but it could have at least tried to keep the deaths from being over the top and rushed. I felt the time constraints too much.
I simply have to agree. I didn't care at all that everyone died. The only beautiful scene in the last episode was the one I wrote up above; the one with the butterfly. The really good episode in this anime, though, that really made me get high hopes for the upcoming ones, was where Hubb and the old man (never remembers his name) is driving together in that car. That was really great stuff, how they interacted. That episode scared me a bit, since it was so much like a real show. I actually forgot I was watching an animated series during that specific car-trip.
Kiba is a Squall-ripoff (not saying they ripped off Squall or anything)... They simply try to make him that kind of laid-back, never-say-sumthin' character with only one point. And sure, he was that... But not a good one. I was almost always annoyed by the way he stood there silent at points where it was obvious for him to open his maize-hole. Seriously... Cheza as well. She always just followed everyone around, and at some point she really showed herself to be smart and intelligent, but almost all of the time, she was just tagging along, saying nothing.
About the death's; one tear-jerker was enough for me. (Cher's death.) Then it just got... Trivial. Hehe...
kissy0560
2004-10-04, 21:35
does anyone here watch the show 'wolfs rain' on cartoon network on saturdays at 1? well...I DO! omg..if anyone here has watched last 2 new episodes...yes, i cried..cher dies, and then toboe!! TOBOE!!! omg, i was crying so much..honestly..toboe!!! >_< and cher!! and i think that old guy [can never get his name right..] died...got shot also? HE KILLED TOBOE!! damn guy...well, yah..ne1 wanna talk about wolfs rain?
Animizzle
2004-10-05, 01:31
does anyone here watch the show 'wolfs rain' on cartoon network on saturdays at 1? well...I DO! omg..if anyone here has watched last 2 new episodes...yes, i cried..cher dies, and then toboe!! TOBOE!!! omg, i was crying so much..honestly..toboe!!! >_< and cher!! and i think that old guy [can never get his name right..] died...got shot also? HE KILLED TOBOE!! damn guy...well, yah..ne1 wanna talk about wolfs rain?
well we all saw there serie kinda..1 year ago...so I think everybody is done talking :)
But it's great though, enjoy it kiddo.
(even tho it's dubbed eeh!)
well we all saw there serie kinda..1 year ago...so I think everybody is done talking :)
But it's great though, enjoy it kiddo.
(even tho it's dubbed eeh!)
Ya I saw the fansubs awhile ago. But I'm watching it on AS again. It's not like anyone can understand this anime even after seeing it a hundred times. And it's nice to watch without reading stuff.
Yes it's dubbed but the acting is top notch. Blue is even the same voice actor/seiyuu. Some voices I don't think fit well (mainly Darcia), but that's just my opinion.
Oh and Darcia is about to say some interesting things about wolves changing into humans and such in next week's episode. 3rd OVA. I'm curious as to how they're translateing it.
7thMethuselah
2004-11-28, 19:36
Hmm, I have a question for dutch speaking people out there :
Has anyone bought the Dutch version of the Wolf's rain DVD's? I want to know how good the quality is of these DVD's. I've looked for reviews and couldn't find any, so I thought it'd be interesting to hear any opinions on the dutch subbed release.
Oh, and is the artbox worth it? It seems like it has alot of extra's and stuff...
Thx in advance
duckroll
2004-11-29, 09:47
Hmm, I have a question for dutch speaking people out there :
Has anyone bought the Dutch version of the Wolf's rain DVD's? I want to know how good the quality is of these DVD's. I've looked for reviews and couldn't find any, so I thought it'd be interesting to hear any opinions on the dutch subbed release.
Oh, and is the artbox worth it? It seems like it has alot of extra's and stuff...
Thx in advance
You can check out reviews and more artwork and stuff on their website here: http://www.nte.be
Hope that helps you out! :)
7thMethuselah
2004-11-29, 17:23
You can check out reviews and more artwork and stuff on their website here: http://www.nte.be
Hope that helps you out! :)
Thanks but I allready decided to buy them for the simple reason I want to support companies that provide me with dutch subs (and jap language track :D ); If the popularity becomes big enough, we might actually get alot more local releases, like the french ...
asdfghjkl
2004-12-19, 18:21
Can someone explain to me their interpretation of the ending. I seriously dont know what the hec happened at the end...
7thMethuselah
2004-12-19, 18:29
Can someone explain to me their interpretation of the ending. I seriously dont know what the hec happened at the end...
This has been extensively discussed in this thread
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=1953&highlight=Wolf%27s+Rain
I think you should try one of the later pages to get the explanation offered by forum members
kauldron26
2006-10-09, 01:17
First off, i am going to say that no movie, no tv show, no book, no form of entertainment in this world, has touched me as this anime has. Wolf's Rain is plain and simple the greatest anime i have ever seen.
It all started my spring semester of my freshman year of college when i got back from the library. I was sooo tired yet i could not sleep. My room mate was knocked out and i figured i would watch some television till i fell asleep. Lo and Behold, i was watching Adult swim and then something caught my eye. I saw a white wolf that suddenly became a man within conversation. And then i was hooked.
After i watched one episode i was entranced by the mystery and the story. I did not know what episode i watched, i didnt even know what the name of the show was, yet i was hooked. I didnt really understand about Anime then. All i knew was that Dragon Ball Z was the shit. But then i did some research and i found out the show was called wolf's Rain, and i started on the second episode.
I would look forward to this anime every saturday unaware that it had been around for a while and that i could have gotten it through other means. But every week, i looked forward to each and every episode. Remember the show is 30 episodes and every week i looked forward to an episode since my freshman year spring. I was done by my sophomore year.
So why does this anime mean so much to me?? Because this anime touched me in ways i could not explain. I learnt so much about life, blossoming love, courage, beauty, tragedy and so much more. The story is supremely original on every level and the characters truly become ur friends. People you love and when they laugh u laugh and when they hurt... you weep. Because they mean so much to you.
The story is about wolves trying to find paradise. What is paradise?? what is it like?? how did man fall from grace? These are the questions u as urself when watching this masterpiece.
The animation is perfect. just perfect.
The soundtrack of this anime is probably the one cd i have had on repeat the most. The music is simply astonishing. I have made love with 3 girls to this soundtrack. Not only is the music powerful, but when u hear it, u cant help but remember what the characters were feeling and experiencing at that moment.
This anime stays with you. It touches you at the very core of ur being, if u are willing to search for paradise with them. If u r an anime critic and ur are looking for flaws or u r paying too much attention, u cannot enjoy this anime because wolfs rain is not something you watch. It is something you experiece. it is not entertainment. It is a world to travel to where you meet Kiba, Hige, Tsume, Toboe and Blue. You'll get to know them, love them, laugh and cry with them. And i cried very hard. And though you will say good bye, their howls will stay with you for a long time.
that's very high praise... while it's not my number one, it's in my top ten
i feel it's Yoko Kanno's best score ever! i just wish the producers hadn't made it 30 episodes by having for recap episodes... i actually renumbered my discs so i can watch the series as 26 episodes and skip those four recaps lol
you are correct about the emotion and animation... both are of the highest level around... such an ambitious work of art.... and so polarizing, because many people can't stand the series... but i love tragedies...
bboycompl3x
2006-10-16, 04:08
ill keep it short and simple one of my all time favs and always will be.
lycantivis
2007-02-12, 19:18
Bestest most favoritest anime ever!
I loved this anime, but seeing the end was really frustrating because I hate extremely sad endings.
After I watched the last episode second time, I realized that maybe there is still some hope for a real paradise and not just having to go through the same thing over and over again (like the wolves having to have a sad ending). Cheza said: "When paradise opens up, we will meet again. This one will be waiting for you. Find this one... ...and the next time, the paradise you hoped for will...". So, maybe next time they are successful in creating the right paradise without Darcia managing to taint it.
psycho bolt
2007-12-13, 15:09
I had to check this episode out after watching Darker Than Black. This show started with a good start until it got to the end, everything fell apart. Truely dissapointing...
There was one episode that had a talking cat, I was reminded of Mao from DTB. Also the symbolism such as the shooting stars...
NoSanninWa
2007-12-13, 15:17
I'll admit that things did start to fall apart at the end, but the final episode pulled it all together once more. That last episode made up for its errors. It was a very beautiful show with a lot of fascinating elements despite some problems.
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