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Swampstorm
2006-09-22, 14:25
Regarding Ch.194:
This isn't necessarily the end of Basketball. As a matter of fact, this may just be what the faction needed to pick up some momentum.

Ch.167 strikes me as an important chapter. If I remember correctly, that chapter showed the first signs of Asou having a bit of an inferiority complex with Hanai. Over the past little while, Hanai has been spending a considerable amount of time with Mikoto - given the Kyoto trip. Also, Mikoto just recently decided to try for the same university that Hanai happened to be working for. The recent arrival of the Kyoto pictures would have further driven this point home.

Had Asou and Mikoto simply separated out of indifference, all this would be irrelevant. However, Suga makes an important point here by noting that Asou's eyes are red. Neither side really wanted to separate, but an external problem seems to have created the rift.

Personally, I'd guess that Asou is in a similar situation now to the one that Eri was just after the Sports Festival. While Asou is clearly interested in Mikoto, he has difficulty dealing with Mikoto's unclarified friendship with Hanai. In a similar manner, it looks like Asou has ended up sabotaging his own relationship. However, if he manages to overcome the problem, the relationship will be all the stronger for it -if this issue gets further treatment, that is. I'm hoping that it does, because it seems like Asou has some good potential for character development here.

So cheer up, Eurys. Hopefully, something good will come out of all this. :)

Regarding b43:
Err..........how so? If a character is withdrawn and reserved, then even minor emotional displays do assume more relevance. I'm not saying that one can draw any definitive conclusions, but there have been tiny hints to suggest that Yakumo is interested (a word here, a moment of embarrassment there). If all of those hints were complete fake-outs by the author ,and Yakumo had no interest at all, those red herrings would seem unnatural and forced in hindsight. In a good story, even the false leads should seem part of a larger pattern upon rereading, not pointlesss blinds.
If a character is very subtle about all of their emotional displays, then our natural tendency would probably be to assign more relevance to what we do see. However, such an approach should be applied consistantly.

Not all of Yakumo's reactions are mild. A number of them, most notibly her reactions to Hanai, can be fairly obvious. That in itself shows that her emotional range is by no means limited, when it counts.

I could see your approach applied to a character like Akira or Karasuma, since we don't really have any prominant displays of emotion with which to work with, on either of their parts.

As for false leads - they're there. A lot of those scenes have a lot of innuendo, but when you put what they are saying in context, the conversations become fairly mundane. Ep.14 S2 is a good example of that. In a number of cases, the tension that is generated from those scenes is used to setup a catharsis in a big Flag moment, as during both manga writing arcs.

A Yakumo-Harima pairing would perhaps be a jump in the story because it hasn't focused on them, but certainly not a drastic character shift on Yakumo's part. Its just that she's been so inscrutable that any major revelation from her would seem a huge change. One can't prove she's been harbouring deep feelings, but one certainly can't disprove it...........and Kiboyashi has given enough hints to tease the possibility. While no-one disputes that Flag is the most developed pairing besides Oudou, there has been enough story development to make a potential Harima-Yakumo connection believable as a viable conclusion.
Lack of counterevidence cannot be the basis of any proof. The hints are there, but they could just as easily exist for the purposes of being a counterbalance for the other factions.

One point that I agree on is that an Onigiri pairing is less of a character change than it is a story change. It's important for stories to have an overall sense of unity, though - that's what distinguishes a story from a list of events. The story weaves those events together to form a complete piece. An Onigiri ending is certainly plausible - but given what we have so far, it would seem very much out of place.

Even if its Flag that's destined to succeed, I would still enjoy seeing Eri-Yakumo fued. I don't see in any way how that would demean either character, as has been implied on this thread. Two people can compete honourably for a person's affections, without either one becoming a heel. Its one thing to break up a couple, but by no stretch of the imagination is Harima committed to Eri yet. I have no doubt that if Eri was in a relationship with Harima, Yakumo would never intervene, and vice-versa. She might have self-confidence issues about fighting for Harima (if for a moment, I am allowed to assume she likes him), but I don't see any moral barriers to such a battle in the current status quo.
It's possible to have an honorable rivalry between Eri and Yakumo. Classically, though, the interactions have only been used to explore Eri's character - Yakumo always wins, bringing out Eri's insecurities in the process. The end result is that Eri is the only one who benefits from their interactions in terms of character growth. For the process to benefit Yakumo as well, she too would need to express some sort of insecurities towards Eri, and would also need to give up her God Mode status.

ZODDGUTS
2006-09-22, 16:36
Never really cared for the MikotoXAsou pairing I liked the earlier possible AsouXSara pairing and found it to be more interesting.

Amirali
2006-09-22, 20:59
Regarding Ch.194:

Not all of Yakumo's reactions are mild. A number of them, most notibly her reactions to Hanai, can be fairly obvious. That in itself shows that her emotional range is by no means limited, when it counts.

She may show her emotions but not her thoughts. There are so many interpretations that can be applied to her reactions, because we hardly ever know what she's thinking. For example, that time when they were all stuck in the floor of the old school, and Sara told Yakumo to pray to "him" to come. Yakumo blushed when she told them it wasn't Hanai she was calling for. Now, was she blushing just because she had misunderstood that her friends still believed the old Yakumo-x-Harima rumour, or because she herself has feelings for him? Either explanation fits, but because Yakumo rarely explains herself or confides in anyone, one can't prove one alternative over the other. The fact that she can show emotion, and is arguably one of the easiest blushers in School Rumble, doesn't mean that she's any easier to understand.............hence the overscrutiny of her every action.

Most scenes are viewed from Harima's or Tenma's perspective(and even from Eri's occasionally) so we know how each of those 3 feel : Tenma likes Karasuma, Eri likes Harima and Harima likes Tenma. Yakumo's feelings are perpetually kept concealed, even when she does blush or smile or make other shows of emotions




Lack of counterevidence cannot be the basis of any proof. The hints are there, but they could just as easily exist for the purposes of being a counterbalance for the other factions.

True, but as I stated in my post, I'm not attempting to prove that the Onigiri faction will win out. I'm saying that there is a storyline thread of Yakumo having feelings for Harima there which the author has deliberately established with those hints. Either the author can just allow it to trail off when he goes for another faction which would be a damp squib, or he can take the brave approach of tackling the seeds that he's sown. If he ended the series by showing Yakumo never had any feelings for Harima, it would be plausible but it would also leave me feeling cheated as a reader.

For a story to be internally consistent, there are only so many hints that the author can throw out that lead nowhere. That is subjective on my part;I have a low tolerance when I feel that a story has made me waste my time. Of course, red herrings can be effective; for example, Agatha Christie was the queen of using them. In her best novels though, she took the trouble of going back and writing a conclusion in such a way that meant the false hints really did represent character development, just not what we had thought. I'll have patience with the manga, but I'm concerned that those false trails will be buried under the carpet and not addressed.


Those hints should lead SOMEHWERE, even if not to Yakumo hooking up with Harima. Its fine by me if Harima were to reject Yakumo for Eri/Tenma, or if its shown that she chooses not to pursue her feelings for him, because at least that way those hints weren't ONLY red herrings to tease us and did indicate some real character progression.

It's possible to have an honorable rivalry between Eri and Yakumo. Classically, though, the interactions have only been used to explore Eri's character - Yakumo always wins, bringing out Eri's insecurities in the process. The end result is that Eri is the only one who benefits from their interactions in terms of character growth. For the process to benefit Yakumo as well, she too would need to express some sort of insecurities towards Eri, and would also need to give up her God Mode status

What fun is a feud if one opponent has God status? I've already seen quite enough of Karasuma beating Harima with 2 fingers , thank you :) and I'd prefer seeing Eri and Yakumo on an even battlefield. Yakumo's previous encounters with Eri did give her some character development : it showed that she was willing to fight bravely for others (interestingly, Harima being among them). But to develop her further, as you say yourself, Yakumo would have to be vulnerable also, so that she can explore and resolve her insecurities. That could only happen if she was fighting for her own feelings and desires , rather than for the sake of someone else.

We all have our own wishlist of what we want to see in the manga. But from a character development point of view, I think conflict is a good instrument for defining characters, and Yakumo in particular needs a sharp encounter to draw her out from her shell. There isn't much more scope for developing her character without it, imo.

Disclaimer: I am a complete Yakumo fanboy and hence spend too much time discussing side stories giving the slightest hint about her:)

robert_s_huxley
2006-09-23, 01:53
wow I didn't even know Asou and Mikoto were 'officially' a couple. I thought they just went on a few dates and all.

for all we know Harima and Eri are secretly going out or something.

kenjiharima
2006-09-23, 02:14
ACK!!!

Maybe Eri and Harima where forced to date because of the Kyoto incident?

Mikoto being dumped makes me wanna tear Asou appart..or maybe Asou and are gay?!! O_O

Owaranai Destiny
2006-09-23, 03:10
ACK!!!

Maybe Eri and Harima where forced to date because of the Kyoto incident?

Mikoto being dumped makes me wanna tear Asou appart..or maybe Asou and are gay?!! O_O


Relax...robert_s_huxley's making an assumption. It would prove interesting if they were set up on a blind date or 'forced' to do so though. Lots of interesting things could happen, first of all another clash between the two most renowned factions. :heh:

Hanabi
2006-09-23, 10:18
Concerning the b chapter, I'd think the line on the side on the last page sort of gives it away.

"It was kind of a beautiful first day of winter."

:3

Eri
2006-09-23, 10:47
Just a question : Do you think we'll see Eri's birthday (February 28) soon or it's already over ? Valentine's day was a long time ago, I don't know then. :eyebrow:

Eurys
2006-09-23, 10:51
Regarding Ch.194:
This isn't necessarily the end of Basketball. As a matter of fact, this may just be what the faction needed to pick up some momentum.

Ch.167 strikes me as an important chapter. If I remember correctly, that chapter showed the first signs of Asou having a bit of an inferiority complex with Hanai. Over the past little while, Hanai has been spending a considerable amount of time with Mikoto - given the Kyoto trip. Also, Mikoto just recently decided to try for the same university that Hanai happened to be working for. The recent arrival of the Kyoto pictures would have further driven this point home.

Had Asou and Mikoto simply separated out of indifference, all this would be irrelevant. However, Suga makes an important point here by noting that Asou's eyes are red. Neither side really wanted to separate, but an external problem seems to have created the rift.

Personally, I'd guess that Asou is in a similar situation now to the one that Eri was just after the Sports Festival. While Asou is clearly interested in Mikoto, he has difficulty dealing with Mikoto's unclarified friendship with Hanai. In a similar manner, it looks like Asou has ended up sabotaging his own relationship. However, if he manages to overcome the problem, the relationship will be all the stronger for it -if this issue gets further treatment, that is. I'm hoping that it does, because it seems like Asou has some good potential for character development here.

So cheer up, Eurys. Hopefully, something good will come out of all this. :)


Why, thank you Swampstorm, that's awfully nice of you to cheer me up :p (I mean it).
Still I know it's over, I think the point of this chapter was to show that Asou always loved and still loves Mikoto, but Mikoto doesn't love him (I was right on that point). I think he realised she's either still in love with her senpai, or there's something between her and Hanai (if it is the case, it was awful writing from JK, because I see nothing of the sort in the manga). Eri too was perceptive of Mikoto's doubt.

I'm just extremely upset that this relationship was nicely written, slowly growing and being acknowledged by every people in the manga, and in a chapter, it's over in an absolutely unjustified manner. I knew it anyway, the author wrote nothing about Mikoto and Asou during Thanksgiving, and was careful as to never show a romantic scene...

Once again, we're back to square one, and the Flute faction can rejoice. I'm personally tired of this manga. If, as you say, Asou's character is still being developped and he can find happiness, it will not be for nothing. But I seriously doubt it.
Well, you people can still enjoy the rest, I envy you. Good luck to your favorite pairings.

ps: I know it sounds exaggerated, but it was the only couple I supported, just as some people support Flag or Onigiri. It was my emotional investment and I'm more frustrated than anything else.

Zishi
2006-09-23, 11:25
Well, we might. But it feel like it has gone more than 2 weeks since valentine... lets hope so!

SonicMonkey
2006-09-23, 13:30
This was a good chapter, even if the development was a little rushed. I constantly wish that KJ would write chapters that were a little longer like most mangaka's, but I suppose he makes up for it with frequency.

Anyway, for people who are mad or what not at Asou dumping Mikoto, the reason for this is obvious. Read the side bar on the last page and you should understand Asou's feelings.

He loves Mikoto, so he did the only thing he could do... he let her go so that she could be with the person that she loves! If anything Asou actually seems more tore up about it than Mikoto does, which is kind of telling and like someone else pointed out, that photograph with Mikoto and Hanai in the foreground and Asou in the background sort of drove the point home.

I think what KJ is hinting at is that Asou was smart enough to pick up that Mikoto wasn't as keen on him as he was on her, and that she seemed to get along really well with a certain bespectacled class president.

With an ending like that I dont really see any more Basketball in the future, that is unless of course that KJ deems it ok to alter Asou's personality, but the more I think about it the less I like that idea. At the end of this chapter it's made clear that the decision he made to let Mikoto go was one that caused him a lot of heart ache but he did it because he believed it was in her best interests. Undoing that would sort of negate alot of the poignancy and courage it took for him to come to that conclusion, I think I like Asou alot more than I did before after reading this chapter to be honest. I was never that keen on the guy, but it's interesting to see that he's has more of a character than just your average sporty bishounen.

So we'll just have to see what happens in the future with Mikoto. I have to say that a Flute ending would make me just as happy as a Flag ending. I hadn't really pondered it before, but Hanai and Mikoto have that childhood friends angle working with each other and it would be pretty touching to see it come to fruitition after so many years :P

arias
2006-09-23, 17:45
He loves Mikoto, so he did the only thing he could do... he let her go so that she could be with the person that she loves! If anything Asou actually seems more tore up about it than Mikoto does, which is kind of telling and like someone else pointed out, that photograph with Mikoto and Hanai in the foreground and Asou in the background sort of drove the point home.


I don't think that his intentions are necessarily so self-sacrificial and honorable. When things like these happen in real life, the side which lets go usually does so for a combination of reasons, including protecting him or herself from future harm. And of course, maybe Asou feels that it just wasn't working out...

I just don't like making characters braver/better than they really are :D

arias
2006-09-23, 17:53
Still I know it's over, I think the point of this chapter was to show that Asou always loved and still loves Mikoto, but Mikoto doesn't love him (I was right on that point). I think he realised she's either still in love with her senpai, or there's something between her and Hanai (if it is the case, it was awful writing from JK, because I see nothing of the sort in the manga). Eri too was perceptive of Mikoto's doubt.

You aren't the golden standard that Jin is writing to. It's an extremely laughable statement.. not being able to recognize to subtleties in the writing is not always the author's fault. Some people here even argue even argue against obvious things that happened in the Yakuneko arc..


I'm just extremely upset that this relationship was nicely written, slowly growing and being acknowledged by every people in the manga, and in a chapter, it's over in an absolutely unjustified manner. I knew it anyway, the author wrote nothing about Mikoto and Asou during Thanksgiving, and was careful as to never show a romantic scene...

Once again, we're back to square one, and the Flute faction can rejoice. I'm personally tired of this manga. If, as you say, Asou's character is still being developped and he can find happiness, it will not be for nothing. But I seriously doubt it.

This relationship wasn't "nicely written" and "slowly growing". For me, it just happened out of nowhere in the basketball arc, and it was almost always a one-sided thing with Asou. There was never an arc which displayed an initiative by Mikoto.. her attitude is probably something like; "He's a great guy.. why not?" and not "I want to be with him/try this relationship."

Your second paragraph about Asou finding happiness.. is such drama. This is a high school manga. I mean, sure.. sometimes after your first love you think you'll never be happy again. But two years on you'll look back and be deeply embarassed by that noobage : P Asou has many fine years ahead of him, and he'll find someone else for sure. It just probably won't be covered in this manga (which will run probably only until end of HS).


School Rumble was becoming rather tiring, but the last two, three chapters (including the b chapter) have been much better. As far as I'm concerned, I would say it's best not to devote too much emotional investment into the characters.. Jin's stance and style on mangas would mean alot of frustration to devotees.

Eurys
2006-09-23, 20:47
Since you use personal attacks, I won't even bother arias :rolleyes:

Owaranai Destiny
2006-09-23, 20:53
I don't think that his intentions are necessarily so self-sacrificial and honorable. When things like these happen in real life, the side which lets go usually does so for a combination of reasons, including protecting him or herself from future harm. And of course, maybe Asou feels that it just wasn't working out...

I just don't like making characters braver/better than they really are :D

That's the point. "You don't think" and "I think" are all opinions. We don't have that much of focus on Asou to determine what his true intentions were, but I do believe the comment Suga made about his red eyes could point something away from the direction you're steering to.

You make some pretty valid points-Though the way you express them seemed to be a little harsh. :heh: Besides, Asou wasn't meant to be one of the main focuses of the story, not in the not so distant future, anyway. As to how it would develop, you can either pray and hope or just let it come as it is, Eurys.

tacobueno
2006-09-23, 21:38
Obviously the only explanation for Asou dumping Souo and his eye's bein red is that he was high. On another note, Suga needs a bigger part, he has potential.

yay first post.

Owaranai Destiny
2006-09-23, 21:53
Obviously the only explanation for Asou dumping Souo and his eye's bein red is that he was high. On another note, Suga needs a bigger part, he has potential.

yay first post.

Welcome. :)

When someone's eyes are red, it normally means one thing: He's been or is about to start crying. That is the common assumption, and I believe it applies to Asou as much as anyone else in this sense.

Sexalicious
2006-09-23, 21:56
Mikoto's reaction to the end of her relationship with Asou seemed a bit, lacking to me. She seemed more bothered about her as a person than not being with Asou, in my opinion.

Suga could definatly do with some character development. I like him.

tacobueno
2006-09-23, 23:11
yes yes vote 4 more Suga he's a cool guy. Yar har went and figured out how to do those cool avatar thingies I'm so speciul.

Matt Soulblade
2006-09-24, 11:08
Looks like flute its almost there, close to claim the victory.
But I need hariimaaaaa :D :P

arias
2006-09-24, 12:42
That's the point. "You don't think" and "I think" are all opinions. We don't have that much of focus on Asou to determine what his true intentions were, but I do believe the comment Suga made about his red eyes could point something away from the direction you're steering to.

You make some pretty valid points-Though the way you express them seemed to be a little harsh. :heh: Besides, Asou wasn't meant to be one of the main focuses of the story, not in the not so distant future, anyway. As to how it would develop, you can either pray and hope or just let it come as it is, Eurys.

Well, no.

You can still love someone and yet still initiate a break up because that's what you think is best for -both- of you. You're thinking in a single-minded.. And then again, my "being harsh".. isn't that only your opinion? ;)

Owaranai Destiny
2006-09-25, 07:39
Well, no.

You can still love someone and yet still initiate a break up because that's what you think is best for -both- of you. You're thinking in a single-minded.. And then again, my "being harsh".. isn't that only your opinion? ;)

Opinions are what generate arguments, simple as that. I did not mean it in a bad way, and neither have I any intention to state so.

You mentioned 'real things'...Well, manga isn't very real, though there can be a degree of reality in it mixed with imagination. The point is, we don't know much about Asou's real character, and that's where our opposing opinions come in. You think he isn't that noble, while I believe he's just being the person he is. Heck, it can even be a mix. He can be insecure for one thing, and breaks up with a subconcious intent of wanting to protect himself. At the same time, he could believe that he's letting go for the sake of Mikoto as well as his own. The intentions were there, perhaps, but it depends on how one views it.

And no, I don't make personal attacks, I just happen to say the truth, so if I'm single-minded, anyone who uses only one way of looking at things is the same. :D

Cal-Reflector
2006-09-25, 09:42
*Laughs* For the first time, I find my heart going out to the one doing the dumping, rather than the one getting dumped; a good twist on Kobayashi Jin's part. I've always liked Asou, ever since his official debut during the pool-hockey game, and it rather threw me for a loop when he and Mikoto started going out (I support Chinese-Food Faction (Sara) and Jr Basketball Faction (Satsuki), in that order). It goes to show that he is indeed one of the few level-headed and mature individuals in this series.

That said, though I do support Flute-faction wholeheartedly, from all previous experiences with SR pre-climactic chapters, I doubt Jin will do anything more with Flute for a good while; just when we think some progress in some direction has been made, it stalls again and things go back to square one.

physics223
2006-09-25, 10:59
I wonder if money-making is all that Jin thinks about. I may not have read the manga, but I'm simply gleaning from the comments and opinions of posters here, and they quite share the same sentiment as I do (well, a lot of them).

JarOfMayo
2006-09-25, 11:32
Not sure what your reading, but a lot of manga readers still wait patiently week after week... We already had our big ugly battle about it... But it was nearly pointless cause we keep on reading every week.

Again... as some of discussed pages ago (months ago), this manga is typically comedy>romance... If you expect too much of the latter and compare it to some harem or romance manga your gonna be disappointed.

On another note some of you guys need Suga Robots lol :p

Owaranai Destiny
2006-09-26, 05:15
Not sure what your reading, but a lot of manga readers still wait patiently week after week... We already had our big ugly battle about it... But it was nearly pointless cause we keep on reading every week.

I must have missed that battle, but once an avid reader reads, he WILL want to follow it through till the end, and it's not just because of a silly reason like 'My dream coupling didn't come true!' that makes a reader quit it. ;)

Again... as some of discussed pages ago (months ago), this manga is typically comedy>romance... If you expect too much of the latter and compare it to some harem or romance manga your gonna be disappointed.

On another note some of you guys need Suga Robots lol :p

Not that I disagree, but it gets somewhat frustrating on the romance part. I do get a little irritated here and there, but in the end, it constitutes mostly as a comedy, though it would be nice to get a tiny bit of seriousness more now and then...

Suga Robots? Some kind of crazy manga? :D

JarOfMayo
2006-09-26, 14:01
I must have missed that battle, but once an avid reader reads, he WILL want to follow it through till the end, and it's not just because of a silly reason like 'My dream coupling didn't come true!' that makes a reader quit it. ;)

Not that I disagree, but it gets somewhat frustrating on the romance part. I do get a little irritated here and there, but in the end, it constitutes mostly as a comedy, though it would be nice to get a tiny bit of seriousness more now and then...

Suga Robots? Some kind of crazy manga? :D

Yea I know what you mean. I've been frustrated before as well its just I feel sometimes we expect too much too quickly. As soon as I realized that I just quit being flustered by it. I think Kyoto Arc really boiled some people over though on this topic. lol It still gets to me at times... its just sad seeing people wanna drop the series just because they are in for the "quick" fix instead of preparing for the long haul.

Suga robo, from epi. 20. "Ore iranai --- Ramen kuu ni ikouze~" lol "I'm not needed~" "(Asou) Lets go eat some ramen~"
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1271/sugaroboxy2.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sugaroboxy2.jpg)

Zishi
2006-09-26, 18:02
I like the image of the current Suga how he is portrated as being "the desperate guy". He always brings me a laugh :)

nubby
2006-09-27, 01:47
What faction is MikotoxHarima? I like that pairing hehe. They explored that briefly in volume 2 but I guess it died pretty quick. I want Mikoto with Harima dammit!

BOZZY
2006-09-27, 12:37
What faction is MikotoxHarima? I like that pairing hehe. They explored that briefly in volume 2 but I guess it died pretty quick. I want Mikoto with Harima dammit!

I think they call it the pencil faction... or at least according to WF's wiki's entry..

JarOfMayo
2006-09-30, 17:31
The umbrella piece to the last B chapter. Cute in typical ways.
In general:
Eri mostly stuck alone doing the album for their trip but Harima only shows up to help... cause he busted up her umbrella. :heh:

Hmmm a lot of things around Eri remind her of the sort of thing she would like to have, and it sort of is frustrating for her. Anyway its embarassing for her to show up at the album meeting alone when everyone is in pairs and actually getting stuff done.

Harima? mmm ran away to brainstorm ideas for a new manga, got an idea after some time. lol... and then broke Eri's umbrella in the process of trying to visualize.

Tougou - "One (Class 3-D album, memories of blood, sweat, and tears) for 20,000 yen!" (~200 dollars :heh: )

Not a summary btw, just some comments. Cute chapter.

DeathRaptor
2006-09-30, 20:54
Great one. but it feels like this one should have appeared last week :heh:

Freeter
2006-09-30, 22:47
I think this is Jin's subtle way of making fun of the publisher's numbering mishap :heh:

Still don't get why Eri hasn't brought up the charm incident with Harima yet...since it was such a "big" deal in the previous arc, you'd think she'd have confronted him by now :heh:

KaneDragon
2006-09-30, 22:49
Eri: It's cold.
Harima: Then how about we heat things up? o.o

... Or not. Eri having a daydream about Harima was win. And we get the context of the b chapter.

kenjiharima
2006-10-01, 00:34
OMG..Eri is now fantasizing about Harima?!! O_O that's a new one! Well she was back in the previous manga's. She can't forget about Harima's naked body.

Diedrupo
2006-10-01, 03:07
I kind of saw the whole Mikoto and Asou breaking up from a mile away. I dunno, it just didn't seem like the two were really working out.

However this doesn't mean Mikoto will shack up with Hanai. Their relationship is too brother and sister-like to become like that. I think both will just remain single til the end of the series.

Asou will probably hook up with that hot basketball player chick.

ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-01, 14:36
Asou will probably hook up with that hot basketball player chick.


do you mean mai-chan? or satsuki-chan? or lala? :D

Freeter
2006-10-01, 16:41
do you mean mai-chan?

You mean Sagano. Mai doesn't play basketball :heh:

ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-01, 18:15
oops....yea....thats why i meant....

Matt Soulblade
2006-10-01, 18:44
I wonder if KJ has something in hands for chapter 200. 150 was a very important one, and well the mood is good, who knows, maybe something good can happen.

Zishi
2006-10-02, 09:47
OMG..Eri is now fantasizing about Harima?!! O_O that's a new one! Well she was back in the previous manga's. She can't forget about Harima's naked body.

Well not really, remember the valentine arc ? Eri fantasized about Harima how she was going to give the chocolate to him. Buts its really interesting to see Eri trying to get closer to Harima.

I think she thought the "Memories before work, right?" sentance wasnt something she thought would come out of Harima's mouth. I think thats why mostly she dont just take the umbrella from Harima and says "Two people should fit under there.". Its the same in b43 when he said "You can't go around catching colds" then Eri asks Harima if he wants to come in but uses the cat as an excuse.

Some how she has noticed Harima isnt just a jerk that dont care about anyone.

But as we know when there is a manga coming up, usually its sure to be some more Yakumo action.

DeathRaptor
2006-10-02, 10:31
What was interesting if we see both chapter 195 and b43 was:

Not only Eri wanting to get closer to him, but also Yakumo in Iori body didn't wanted Harima to enter Eri's house. Not only that but the expression she had when he was carring her (I use her since even if the body is that of a cat, is Yakumo at the end) she was completely relaxed.

I guess this shows how she feels. I really loved those 2 chapters.

saner
2006-10-03, 16:42
Borrrrring.

I wonder if KJ will write more about cats, dogs, birds, etc. He mustn't have any good idea to write about Iori. In SR, there are many animals so he can easily create more than 20 chapters about any kind of animals.

(btw, his new manga is so boring, I forced myself to read first and half of the second chapter)

ZODDGUTS
2006-10-03, 20:06
Great chapter good too see some interaction between Eri and Harima.

brolycjw
2006-10-03, 21:54
Harima is just about as dense as Tenma, he's got two girls making moves on him for quite awhile and he doesn't even realise it. It's been like 190++ chapters and Harima's love for Tenma isn't showing any signs of residing, similar to Tenma's case in her love for Karasuma. So my prediction is that, Harima would probably not like Tenma anymore when Tenma stops liking Karasuma. At that moment, we would see more of a love triangle instead of a love polygon.

In any case, there have been developments for other characters, Hanai's love for Yakumo seems to have resided a little, and Imadori is starting to see Ichijou differently, and Tougou is coming into the picture, and he seems to have taken interest in Tenma too! (Which could possibly add one more side to the already complicated love polygon) The breaking up of Mikoto and Asou was not really a surprise, I myself could tell that it was going to happen ever since they first hooked up, and it wasn't their fault too. Mikoto just couldn't really be herself when she goes out with Asou, and this is a bad sign of a relationship. Asou could tell when Mikoto is truely happy, and so he decided to let her go and perhaps she would come back to him after making up her mind.

ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-03, 23:17
omg....harima and eri are looking like a couple more and more. The way she so down and pissed off when harima left her.....she falling for him so bad. plus day-dreaming about harima.........yeap....she got it bad.

too bad harima came back because of his guilt. If harima is not too dense in his head, they would make such a great couple. I hope KJ continue the story even after either tenma or harima ended up with someone.

But I do want to see progress from the side characters too. Mikoto, akira, imadori..........everyone........

taichikun14
2006-10-03, 23:31
i prefer main character development over side character development... harima, tenma, yakumo and eri are much more interesting characters..

brolycjw
2006-10-04, 00:23
Of course, main character development is more important than side character development, but the problem is the two main characters of the story, Tenma and Harima haven't been developed too much. Tenma doesn't even have any clue of Harima's crush on her, and even if she got a hint, she forgets it a day later due to her horrible memory. Harima hasn't stopped trying to pursue Tenma, but at least it can be seen that her view of Eri has changed abit, although not significant. Perhaps all will change when Karasuma leaves 40 days later, and we will see more development on Tenma's and Harima's part, but that could also signify the end of School Rumble as well.

kenjiharima
2006-10-05, 02:07
Anybody noticed in b.43 harima was drawn quite quickly? I mean his hands and face and all looks like it was drawn too quickly. Is KJ getting board of School Rumble? And concentrating on his new manga? Or maybe it's just the deadline of his manga :heh:

Well...Eri and Yakumo are drawn nicely, yet I wish he'd put the same efforts to Harima also.

taichikun14
2006-10-05, 20:03
ahh i hope KJ's new manga isn't gonna take away his concentration on school rumble... i always really like SR art...and i sure hope to heck he'll still be able to crank out some meaningful chapters every now and then...

~S~
2006-10-06, 11:12
Eri.....!!!!!???? Has taken a big step this chapter, by not asking~telling a certain someone to spend the night(ツンツン~mode on). Nakamura's reaction was great, well he did tell her that he could not take the fact that she was was looking like a coward. She took his advice and and her friends advice and that one line that kept appearing in her mind of having that one lifetime regret and we arrive to this unexpected development. Will Hige get to see the Angel's Sanctuary, the room were she secretly has a picture that she stares at every night before going to bed. Is she finally going to reveal(デレデレ~mode on).....Ojou.....Omae......!!!!!????

JarOfMayo
2006-10-06, 13:38
mmmm :p I had the same reaction as Nakamura. lol

mmm I don't know what to say... But I think approach wise... This might be the only way to break through Harima tunnel vision. lol...

I feel bad for Eri, but I think its inevitable that yea... only chance are gonna come from directly her efforts. Not enough time to break through Harima's tunnel vision otherwise.

Even if he doesn't have a picture at all in the album... Harima doesn't want a picture with him and Eri together in the album. hehe :D

DeathRaptor
2006-10-06, 14:06
I can't understand it at all :(

Eri
2006-10-06, 14:42
Learn japanese... can't stand waiting for the next chapter :'(

DeathRaptor
2006-10-06, 15:08
Too much trouble, I have enough with learning Spanish and English :heh:

But I really like how this chapter is portrayed. I wanna understand more.

Edit:

Saw it, read it, I love it

ZODDGUTS
2006-10-06, 18:17
Another great chapter can't wait too see as to what's going to happen in the next chapter.

And yeah Nakamura's reaction was priceless he was like "WTF!? That's not what I wanted you to do" lol :heh:

KaneDragon
2006-10-06, 18:47
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7715/sr1969fs2.jpg
This is delicious SR chapter, it is made of flag and win. You must eat.

Freeter
2006-10-06, 18:58
Hilarious chapter. Too many good moments.


H: "I thought we'd do it in your room"

E: !!!

then...

E: "You...STAY OVER TONIGHT!"

N: :twitch:

Priceless.

Next chapter, Eri had better find out about Tenma...or maybe if Harima replies, "I love Tsukamoto", this could lead into the long-awaited Rice vs. Flag battle :heh:

Matt Soulblade
2006-10-06, 19:06
FINALLY.
Plot development, my eyes still cannot believe it. I still think that KJ is hiding something for chapter 200.
Did I say that Im happy and I love you guys? And townsocks too?
(Just dont ruin everything Harima!)

Zishi
2006-10-06, 20:22
I think this will develop either into these 4 possabilities:

1. This will go fully serious and some confusion runs through the air, but Harima turns her down saying he has work etc.
2. Eri will say that she meant the butler Nakamura instead and not him XD(Classical sr moment)
3. Eri will go confused and say she invited everyone from 2-C and its gonna be a farewell party(Quite obvious that Harima will be there then cause tenma)
4. Harima will end up somehow at Eri's house and there will be some "drama". Don't ask me how that is gonna happen but that is the scenario I am hoping for XD.

brolycjw
2006-10-07, 01:30
If something happens between Eri and Harima, I say that's the end of school rumble.

psylentshadow
2006-10-07, 03:28
Will Hige get to see the Angel's Sanctuary, the room were she secretly has a picture that she stares at every night before going to bed. Is she finally going to reveal(デレデレ~mode on).....Ojou.....Omae......!!!!!????

did i miss something? what chapter is that in? :confused:

um anyways...i liked the chapter...probably because im leaning towards flag haha. im afraid some misunderstanding will happen just because it's school rumble. it seems like everytime someone wants to express their feelings...it never works because its just misunderstood or they get shut down...so hopefully that trend stops here...i doubt it though.

i wonder if the manga will end at ch 200, it's theoretically possible. i think theres enough time to establish a relationship with eri, tenma, yakumo in this that frame, although i doubt it'll happen.

brolycjw
2006-10-07, 06:31
Yes it is possible to end it by 200, as things between eri and harima are going on so fast. It's unlikely that school rumble will continue after they end up together, since this naturally means Tenma would end up with Karasuma, and there goes the main characters, so let's hope it doesn't happen this quickly.

Zishi
2006-10-07, 08:46
I am sure it wont end at 200. Atleast 20-40 chapters more I think. And I am sure things wont go so smooth for Eri's try. Even though Harima might see her differently, he needs to get turned down by Tenma first. Then maybe something will happen.

Bamse
2006-10-07, 10:56
I think this will develop either into these 4 possabilities:

1. This will go fully serious and some confusion runs through the air, but Harima turns her down saying he has work etc.
2. Eri will say that she meant the butler Nakamura instead and not him XD(Classical sr moment)
3. Eri will go confused and say she invited everyone from 2-C and its gonna be a farewell party(Quite obvious that Harima will be there then cause tenma)
4. Harima will end up somehow at Eri's house and there will be some "drama". Don't ask me how that is gonna happen but that is the scenario I am hoping for XD.



"4. Harima will end up somehow at Eri's house and there will be some "drama". Don't ask me how that is gonna happen but that is the scenario I am hoping for XD."

i really hope for this to happend but will prolly never happen :(

Camus
2006-10-07, 13:24
oh man! this chapter had a lot of content, it felt more than 9 pages. My prediction is well eri will get turned down and then harima will get turned down and after this he will come to the realisation that he likes eri, the way this is looking it seems that flag faction will win. but we are yet to see some closure on the rice faction.

i don't know but this is defenetlly getting good. eri and harima moments are one of the funniest and best in school rumble. And yet I hope this doesn't end too fast, school rumble is one of my old time favorite manga and anime, plus they still need to make a third season at least it was hinted other wise the anime would of concluded already.

JarOfMayo
2006-10-07, 15:06
I am sure it wont end at 200. Atleast 20-40 chapters more I think. And I am sure things wont go so smooth for Eri's try. Even though Harima might see her differently, he needs to get turned down by Tenma first. Then maybe something will happen.

Same... No way it would end at 200. lol :heh: Story moves pretty slowly for the most part...

Beyond this (if its something conclusive) the Tenma story would need to conclude as well and beyond that anything extra... and epilogueish.. so... yeah.. even if were heading toward an end from now it would be some 40-60 chapters. Basically another year or so.

~S~
2006-10-08, 01:23
psylentshadow: did i miss something? what chapter is that in? :confused:

No you did not miss anything this is speculation well more like hoping for what will happen in the next chapter....!!!!???

~S~
2006-10-08, 01:24
Ignore the double post there were some technical difficulties.

kauldron26
2006-10-10, 02:56
i really, really, really love this chapter... as much as i badmouth the mangaka for being a money-minded dick, there is sooo much development here, but i am so afraid to get my hopes up. This is exactly how i felt when Harima and Eri had that moment when they were running away from her fiance and she didnt know it was Harima with her. Everything was great then until that ridiculous drop kick scene. I am just tired of getting my hopes up... but onegai kami-sama, let this scene be real and meaningful. Onegai, let there be no misunderstandings and "reset". Kami-sama please let the Mangaka be brave enough to destroy Harima's tunnel vision of Tenma.

Zishi
2006-10-10, 05:36
Its near a 100% there will be a misunderstanding, maybe its a small one or maybe it will be a big one. But SR does not reset as many thinks, it is a comedy love story even if a situation you think isnt affected so much but if you watch closely it does effect the characters. Some small changes and some big.

And no this show aint like Honey and Clover poetry every 10 sec... get over it I say.

SchoolRumble Fan
2006-10-10, 09:39
Go go Eri :love:
Great chapter
But I think Harima doesn't love Eri, he is obsessed with Tenma :(

When will the next chapter be released? I can't wait

Zishi
2006-10-10, 09:51
The chapters are realesed on Saturday I believe in Japan.

Forever
2006-10-11, 05:12
Prediction:

Eri confesses to harima
Harima rejects Eri cuz of temna
Eri tell tenma that harima likes her
Tenma confronts harima and rejects him
Harima loses will to live
Yakumo renews will with manga hope.
Harima marries Yakumo
End

kenjiharima
2006-10-11, 06:00
Prediction:

Eri confesses to harima
Harima rejects Eri cuz of temna
Eri tell tenma that harima likes her
Tenma confronts harima and rejects him
Harima loses will to live
Yakumo renews will with manga hope.
Harima marries Yakumo
End

That might come true! :D

Owaranai Destiny
2006-10-11, 07:19
Sounds a little far-fetched, but I'm all for it if that does happen. :D

2H-Dragon
2006-10-11, 08:14
Im going with the hidden option that the Mangeka will die before the serie ends. >.>" The reason why this serie doesnt have much development is prolly, because Harima/Tenma are to dumb to move on. >.> <.<

Zishi
2006-10-11, 11:13
Nah, I just think that Harima needs a real push, supporter when he is "turned" down by Tenma. Which will be Eri ofc :>

Well ofcourse series like this usually end with an open ending(Ranma for example and many others, but SR owns all those series ofcourse XD). But we will see some kind of resolution. This 1 month until Karasuma leaves and 2-C will be no more and everyone will be scattered into new classes. So we will see a resolution(small or big there will be one atleast I think)

snkkid
2006-10-11, 14:31
This 1 month until Karasuma leaves and 2-C will be no more and everyone will be scattered into new classes. So we will see a resolution(small or big there will be one atleast I think)

I would love for the series to continue further, beyond high-school going to university. Every school-life anime/manga i've read/seen always ends around the time the main characters are about to start university, so my wish would be to see is no resolution and see what happens after this point. That would be much more interesting for me.

Streetor
2006-10-11, 18:08
Personally I think I can see something like this happening.


Eri accidentally blurts out confession/runs away
Harima is shocked
Harmia keeps trying to convince himself he loves Tenma
Eri starts showing up in his daydreams/fantasies etc replacing Tenma
blah blah blah....1 year of manga later Harima finally realizes he's fallen for Eri.

You know it would take that long

Levski
2006-10-11, 18:59
Personally I think I can see something like this happening.


Eri accidentally blurts out confession/runs away
Harima is shocked
Harmia keeps trying to convince himself he loves Tenma
Eri starts showing up in his daydreams/fantasies etc replacing Tenma
blah blah blah....1 year of manga later Harima finally realizes he's fallen for Eri.

You know it would take that long

LOL bullshit. It would take longer.

She could invite him to her house. Hold a box of condoms infront of his face only in her panties and her bra saying "Wanna have fun" and he will STILL not get it.

You are being to nice to the guy.

Swampstorm
2006-10-11, 20:17
LOL bullshit. It would take longer.

She could invite him to her house. Hold a box of condoms infront of his face only in her panties and her bra saying "Wanna have fun" and he will STILL not get it.

You are being to nice to the guy.
I somehow get the feeling that Streetor's suggestion was meant to be a parody of Forever's post. As a matter of fact, it just might even be a touch more realistic, by comparison.

Good luck explaining that to them, though... :heh:

KaneDragon
2006-10-11, 22:28
Bah, if she were going to confess, the cliffhanger would have ended with that. =/ Or maybe being pessimistic is just the easy way out?

Levski
2006-10-12, 00:53
I just watched SHUFFLE! and i felt bad at the end so damn it i want a happy ending. Who should he be with?

If Tenma has her call answered by her boring "boyfriend" then NO

Yakumo is REALLY lonely and feels detached from the world in a sense that every tought a guy has that is directed towards her she feels. She shares toughts that should be private to people and Harima is really the only guy she has felt close at all.

Eri is detahed from her parents. Her friends are EXTREMELY important to her. They are her life. She tought she had it all, but then Harima showed her a piece of her life that she is missing , she also sees him for the person he is AND he gave her her first light sexual urges which is always welcomed i guess ?!? He is this NEW part of life just as he is to Yakumo.

Who should get him? Yakumo or Eri? To be sure i am not sure at all now :( Tenma can burn in a fire if she doesn't get rejected.

Swampstorm
2006-10-12, 02:03
Remember, we've already seen a flash forward into Yakumo and Sara's futures. We know that neither of them will be lonely, and they lead well adjusted lives into their university years. Given the fact that Yakumo is still yet to confirm that she:
1) Really does want a romantic relationship with Harima
2) Is willing to put forward effort to achieve said romantic relationship with Harima,

she really has nothing to lose at this point in time. If she ends up with Harima, that's an added bonus for her, but if she doesn't, she hasn't confirmed her interest, so there's no risk or threat of rejection. It's a win-win situation for her either way.

As for Tenma, given her past relationship with Karasuma, there seems little chance that her relationship could fail. On the off chance that it does, however, she's almost certain to have Harima available as a backup option. It's a win-win situation for her either way.

In Eri's case, the fact that she confirmed her interest in Harima at the start means that she has the most to lose out of all of this. She started out with a healthy dose of flaws, which some people could easily use to justify a bad ending despite the large number of selfless acts that she's performed throughout the series. In addition, she's invested the greatest amount of effort and overcome the most number of obstacles in her relationship with Harima - and a bad ending poses the threat of undoing all that character progress and development to this point. When you couple that risk with the fact that the relationship between Harima and Eri seems doomed to be stuck at an impasse between his crush on Tenma and his prejudice against Eri, you'll see that the stakes surrounding Flag are very high - a non Flag ending would be bittersweet at best, for Eri. Yet, at the same time, by having so much invested in the relationship, the potential happiness that Eri could get out of a successful ending is that much greater. That's what gives the series its nailbiting tension, and that's what makes some of those Flag scenes so powerful.

When you step out of the comfortable zone of those other win-win scenarios, things get that much more exciting (and stressful, too, unfortunately). Flag is not for the faint of heart. ;)

The suspense on that next chapter is killing me.

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-12, 11:53
Read the chapter where Harima as "Mr. Worker" and Eri slept together. He feels disgusted in her presence. He thinks "You think I am going to make a move on you!?Eck!:frustrated: " (my quick translation of the Jap text is not that accurate. Sories about that). It is evident that Harima does not have any feelings towards her despite the countless times they accidentally got paired up together. But what makes it worse that Eri got the wrong idea that he secretly liked her since the Max incident. She would be very very dissapointed soon enough after hearing the truth.

My prediction is that Harima declines staying at her mansion (LOL!!!):heh: but of course fails heh. Then while Eri fails again and again to make her feelings known, either due to her cowardice or Harima's stupidity (puts on flame shield), Eri indirectly discovers his true love interest which is Tenma, and all her assumptions about him secretly liking him goes down the drain. She would think "Of course....Harima never liked me from the start...Who am I fooling?"

But for some unknown reason, she will not tell Tenma about it. She just keeps quiet and finally accepts, just like her constant denials in front of her friends, that she and Harima are not meant to be together. At least there's no regrets out of acting cowardly if she did.

But of course, future Flag scenarios will still happen, as her feelings for Harima will not change. There would even be repeated attempts by Eri. But Eri and Harima becomng couples?Never. :uhoh:

And in the anime, where Harima and Tenma sit in the flying express train (I know it's NOT flying!) the narrator says something about the two eventually suceed as a couple. That further strengthens my point that Flag will not be the ultimatum of the series.

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-12, 12:10
she also sees him for the person he is AND he gave her her first light sexual urges which is always welcomed i guess ?!?

You mean the part where Eri couldn't get her mind off Harima's exaggeratingly muscled body and goes nuts thinking that the she might ended up having sex with the naked Harima if Akira didn't come and 'rescue' her (right before Tenma tells her that he is hiting on Mikoto)?:heh:

Swampstorm
2006-10-12, 15:00
Read the chapter where Harima as "Mr. Worker" and Eri slept together. He feels disgusted in her presence. He thinks "You think I am going to make a move on you!?Eck!:frustrated: " (my quick translation of the Jap text is not that accurate. Sories about that). It is evident that Harima does not have any feelings towards her despite the countless times they accidentally got paired up together. But what makes it worse that Eri got the wrong idea that he secretly liked her since the Max incident. She would be very very dissapointed soon enough after hearing the truth.
Let's take another look at that chapter (#152).

For starters, Harima's response to Eri's blushing is very specific - he's not disgusted by her, but rather by her seeming arrogance in thinking that he wants to make a move on her. Context is always important.

While you are right that Harima constantly asserts the fact that he isn't at all interested in Eri, he insists a little too strongly. Take a look at the lines after Eri falls asleep. While Harima admits that he thought that she wasn't all that bad, the phrase that he keeps repeating is "for just a moment" - as if to reassure himself. This, when combined with Harima's surprisingly irritatable response to her mumbled comment, speaks volumes. If he doesn't care about her, then why should he care about her opinion, especially when it's just mumbled in her sleep?

The animated version does a better job of conveying this. Just as he covers Eri with the blanket, he insists that he's not in the slightest bit attracted to her, after repeatedly insisting that he only found her likable for "just a moment". Where on earth did that come from? The issue of attraction wasn't even broached in their conversation. What inner dialogue spurned that thought?

Also, when you compare that scenario with others, such as Harima's insistance during the Sports Festival that he's "just repaying his debt", and listen to the tone of voice used in each case, you'll see that there's a common thread running through all this:

Harima is a tsundere.

My prediction is that Harima declines staying at her mansion (LOL!!!):heh: but of course fails heh. Then while Eri fails again and again to make her feelings known, either due to her cowardice or Harima's stupidity (puts on flame shield), Eri indirectly discovers his true love interest which is Tenma, and all her assumptions about him secretly liking him goes down the drain. She would think "Of course....Harima never liked me from the start...Who am I fooling?"

But for some unknown reason, she will not tell Tenma about it. She just keeps quiet and finally accepts, just like her constant denials in front of her friends, that she and Harima are not meant to be together. At least there's no regrets out of acting cowardly if she did.
I've been seeing an awful lot of big predictions lately. This may just be a fanfic thread in the making. :heh:

But of course, future Flag scenarios will still happen, as her feelings for Harima will not change. There would even be repeated attempts by Eri. But Eri and Harima becomng couples?Never. :uhoh:
Well, we've all seen in the past that Flag is more than capable of making the impossible possible. Don't you remember how the forces of nature conspired together to make that marriage charm? :heh:

I wouldn't put anything past them.

And in the anime, where Harima and Tenma sit in the flying express train (I know it's NOT flying!) the narrator says something about the two eventually suceed as a couple. That further strengthens my point that Flag will not be the ultimatum of the series.
That's a second botched translation, but it should have struck you as strange from the outset. If the author told us the ending at an earlier point in time, why on earth would we still be reading? :rolleyes:

At this point in time, we've gone through over 200 chapters worth of manga (including the side chapteres) and more than 325 out of 365 days have elapsed in the year (given Karasuma's 40 day time limit). No matter how you want to think of the story, the final result makes up only a very small portion of the manga as a whole. 1/365 does not a main pairing make.

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-14, 05:05
Of course swampstorm. You know the manga series bette than me. Ooh I should really polish my Japanese and read it carefully.:)

Matt Soulblade
2006-10-15, 08:09
So, 197 should be out there by now right?

aris385
2006-10-15, 09:35
197 is funny as hell

Zishi
2006-10-15, 17:32
A very good chapter, some how Eri succeeds in most blushes in a manga chapter ever :) Every frame had Eri blush on it XD

FLAG FTW

Bamse
2006-10-15, 17:38
A very good chapter, some how Eri succeeds in most blushes in a manga chapter ever :) Every frame had Eri blush on it XD

FLAG FTW

oh really ? i wanna see that :)

flag faction!!!

Matt Soulblade
2006-10-15, 17:41
Hilarious.
Nakamura really cares a lot for Eri :)
Gogo flag!!!!

ZODDGUTS
2006-10-15, 17:43
Woah another great chapter things are really moving along. I wonder if Eri will be able to confess now.

KaneDragon
2006-10-15, 18:15
If she doesn't, her butler's crossdressing will continue. >_< She wasn't happy about him wearing her uniform; she's going to be absolutely pissed if she finds out he's been wearing her undergarments, too. @_@

This chapter was made of cute and win.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8099/sreriwaterfetishfr6.jpg

Swampstorm
2006-10-15, 21:12
It looks like a lot of people were watching that 4chan thread... :heh:

I'm now torn between this chapter and Ch.185 as my favourite chapter in the series. Ch.185 was nice from a character standpoint, but this one had an overload of warm and fuzzy feelings.

I've pointed out the increasing similarities between Eri and Tenma before, but the second last page of this chapter really struck home for me. It's almost feels like Eri is Tenma, at this point - or at least what Tenma's character could have been. Just take a look at panel 1 and panel 5 and you'll see what I mean. Try substituting Eri and Harima for Tenma and Karasuma, to test it out. It's very reminiscent of the early chapters of the series, in a way.

I find it particularily interesting because as the story has progressed, we've seen Tenma change from sharing Harima's goofiness early on in the series, to adopting a more calmer, rational outlook (perhaps brought on by her relationship with Karasuma) - in a bit of a role reversal last chapter, for example, Tenma was giving Eri advice in the same manner that Eri used to give Tenma about Karasuma. Likewise, Eri has changed her more rational stance to share a certain element of Harima's goofiness - you now have Eri and Harima mirroring each other in the same way that Tenma and Harima used to early on in the series. This chapter's side comments summarize this well - a lot of steps were taken for Eri to get to this state.

I don't think a confession is going to come, at this point - it feels too early. From Harima's initial comments in this chapter, I do think that Harima's manga is relevant here. I'm particularily keen to see if Harima's manga is going to be linked back to Karasuma's final issue and his departure (as mentioned in the chapter with 40 days till departure) and if Eri finds out about his manga. The latter case is a possibility if Harima decides to work on his manga during the stay over.

In any case, it looks like we'll have to wait another week to see. Next week should bring us both a # and a ♭.

physics223
2006-10-15, 21:18
I've 'overheard' from some IRC conversation that SR is finally going somewhere - and it's a Flag path. No, I'm not angry about it - AT LEAST IT IS FINALLY GOING SOMEWHERE! If there's going to be a season three, at least chances are that it's really going to end with some definite conclusion, and that's all I'm hoping and rooting for. It may not be ending with my favorite pairing, but if it will end well I'm still going to be really happy. :)

riddle
2006-10-15, 21:58
GO Ojou:) ...
Next chapter should be something...

kauldron26
2006-10-15, 22:16
OMFG... could it really be... is SR beginning to stop sucking?? are we finally getting some development?? omg... i am dying of anticipation. great issue KJ. in a way, it seems KJ is trying to wrap things up.

School is ending.
40 days for Karasuma.
Everyone talking about their future.

Could this really be happening?? God i hope so...

Streetor
2006-10-15, 23:15
At this rate, the possibility that chapter 200 could be something huge is more and more likely.

Of course that means KJ will have to stall Harima at Eri house for 3 more weeks.

Next week could be finishing the project.

Week after could be them working out how to sleep

And the week after that is chapter 200.

Mentar
2006-10-16, 03:31
There's only one thing we know for sure which will NOT happen - and that is Eri confessing and Harima accepting. It just can't work, not yet.

As a flagger, I still want one thing to happen (even though it's unlikely): I want Harima to seriously reevaluate Eri. Preferably, she does break and confesses, but I guess it will have to be something below that. Like an admission that he's special to her, followed by a major outburst. But please something which snaps Harima out of his Tenma tunnel vision, even if it should be only in a temporary way ("Could she have meant that? Nah, impossible... or not?").

It's clear to me how this arc will end. With another violent Eri outburst smacking down Harima bigtime, followed by a vow never to let herself be humiliated like that again ^_^ ... which subsequently won't hold.

For a flag ending, Harima first needs to learn to value her. And that's still a long way to go. Nevertheless, maybe SR _will_ get some kind of conclusive relationship endings after all. I hope it does.

Swampstorm
2006-10-16, 06:43
There's only one thing we know for sure which will NOT happen - and that is Eri confessing and Harima accepting. It just can't work, not yet.

As a flagger, I still want one thing to happen (even though it's unlikely): I want Harima to seriously reevaluate Eri. Preferably, she does break and confesses, but I guess it will have to be something below that. Like an admission that he's special to her, followed by a major outburst. But please something which snaps Harima out of his Tenma tunnel vision, even if it should be only in a temporary way ("Could she have meant that? Nah, impossible... or not?").

It's clear to me how this arc will end. With another violent Eri outburst smacking down Harima bigtime, followed by a vow never to let herself be humiliated like that again ^_^ ... which subsequently won't hold.

For a flag ending, Harima first needs to learn to value her. And that's still a long way to go. Nevertheless, maybe SR _will_ get some kind of conclusive relationship endings after all. I hope it does.
I agree for the most part, but I don't think that this arc has to end in violence. Kyoto ended on a positive note, but also mitigated some of the more major changes that it brought about in the process. Given the time limits, Flag doesn't have very much time left to lose with major setbacks.

Eri's confession is ultimately linked to Harima's confession which is linked to Tenma's confession. If any of Harima, Eri, Tenma, or Karasuma get paired off, we instantly get a fairly good idea of the rest of the story from there - which means that it needs to happen all at once. The key conflict is still in Harima resolving his feelings for Tenma, but I'm hoping that Eri can make enough of an impact up until that point for Harima to undergo a realization and reversal.

Right now, I want to see Eri find out about that manga before the end of the arc. If she can do that, she'll be doing fairly well. I'm also hoping that KJ follows up on ch.181's mysterious ending and that he remembers Eri's birthday, if we're still in February.

Oh, and given the chapter numbering screwups... do we really know which chapter is 200, anymore? :heh:

Forever
2006-10-16, 09:25
Somehow i suspect something is wrong with the water harima drank. Hmm Nakamura could have spike it with something interesting.

The next thing u know, harima would have force eri on bed and at the critical point, mutter his confession to tenma.

The next chapter will probably end with a slap. All going according to my onigiri plan. :)

kenjiharima
2006-10-17, 03:51
Flag all the way...

for now :heh:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/eri_myfuturehusband.jpg

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-17, 11:39
Once again I got a view of Harima's buff body. No wonder Eri is attracted to him.
Nakamura in Eri's undies....ergh that is very disturbing image. Despite Nakamura calling him husband-to-be and trying to seduce him, Harima STILL doesn't get it. LOL!

Streetor
2006-10-17, 11:54
Nakamura put date-rape drug in Harima's water.

Eri's going to be able to do anything she wants...

Witacume
2006-10-17, 18:53
oh noes! i been a long time reader of the manga don't post much but i thought i post something. I am happy that the story is finally moving along but whatever happen to the onigiri faction 8*(. Seems to have a lot of Flag. I think one of 2 things will happen Either finally Harima tunnel vision is broken and Flag wins. Or Flag is going for a huge downfall i mean Eri is going to be depress for a while. Whichever the case i hope we get some resolution with onigiri as well, What i hope for is that Harima calls Yakumo to Eri's house to help with his manga and Chapter 200 is finally what i kinda wanted which is great battle of onigiri Vs. Flag. but that's just being optomist i am.

Freeter
2006-10-17, 19:06
Nakamura put date-rape drug in Harima's water.

Eri's going to be able to do anything she wants...

I'm pretty sure Eri's not going to be that desperate :heh:

kenjiharima
2006-10-18, 04:12
Hmm...is Eri only attracted to Harima because of his body?
Nahh...Main thing is WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT?!! O_O

Killa_hurtz
2006-10-18, 04:55
(as of 5 minutes ago is completely caught up in School Rumble after 4 days of speed reading from Volume 4)

GO FLAG!!!!

Killa_hurtz
2006-10-18, 04:56
Hmm...is Eri only attracted to Harima because of his body?
Nahh...Main thing is WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT?!! O_O

Call it a hunch but...I'm gonna guess that a misunderstanding will take place...:heh:

SonicMonkey
2006-10-18, 12:32
Once again I got a view of Harima's buff body. No wonder Eri is attracted to him.
Nakamura in Eri's undies....ergh that is very disturbing image. Despite Nakamura calling him husband-to-be and trying to seduce him, Harima STILL doesn't get it. LOL!


You know what, I tend to wonder sometimes about this. Harima is totally built, drives a motorcycle, wears sunglasses all the time and is kind of a bad boy. How the hell does he not have girls crawling all over him?

I've lived in both countries and I can attest firmly that japanese girls get the hots for that bad boy image just as much as american girls. Hell, the only real difference is that sometimes in japan the woman will pick up the tab for the love hotel.

Uh... not that i know anything about that (checks over shoulder for fiancee), Just pure speculation on my behalf. Yup, yup. I must have read it in a... manga or something.

Streetor
2006-10-18, 14:00
You know what, I tend to wonder sometimes about this. Harima is totally built, drives a motorcycle, wears sunglasses all the time and is kind of a bad boy. How the hell does he not have girls crawling all over him?

I've lived in both countries and I can attest firmly that japanese girls get the hots for that bad boy image just as much as american girls. Hell, the only real difference is that sometimes in japan the woman will pick up the tab for the love hotel.

Uh... not that i know anything about that (checks over shoulder for fiancee), Just pure speculation on my behalf. Yup, yup. I must have read it in a... manga or something.

Well SR isn't the most realistic manga in the world.

Also, I think the fact that he's a delinquant and was cold toward most people make people tend to be scared of him.

taichikun14
2006-10-18, 21:01
even though i'm a huge oudou fan, i'm pretty entertained by these flag chapters... wahh i just hope KJ comes back with some oudou chapters afterwards though!! there used to be quite a few...but lately there's been so much flag that i'm getting worried KJ's being influenced by popularity polls! :,(

i hope not, because right from the start of the manga, it really seemed like no matter what happened, he still had harimaxtenma in mind... (b/c Harima was never seduced by ANYONE even a little bit...not even that nurse who came onto him when he slept over)...but now harima actually complimented another girl on her appearance! aside from tenma, eri's the first! no... be strong my oudou hopes...

DeathRaptor
2006-10-18, 21:01
You know what, I tend to wonder sometimes about this. Harima is totally built, drives a motorcycle, wears sunglasses all the time and is kind of a bad boy. How the hell does he not have girls crawling all over him?

I've lived in both countries and I can attest firmly that japanese girls get the hots for that bad boy image just as much as american girls. Hell, the only real difference is that sometimes in japan the woman will pick up the tab for the love hotel.

Uh... not that i know anything about that (checks over shoulder for fiancee), Just pure speculation on my behalf. Yup, yup. I must have read it in a... manga or something.

He got the top 2 girls, (Eri and Yakumo) after him so why worry for the rest? :heh:

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-19, 03:03
I know at least one character who likes 'bad boys': Yakumo.
She said so herself while reading his manga at the kafe. I assume that since she is a very intelligent person she already figured it out that the main character is himself, and is giving a little hint for Harima to hook up with her as well as sharing his hobby.
Rough and hasty translation from anime: "He seems to be a delinquent, but I like this kind of person. And...doesn't he need someone to share his secrets with?"
Harima would be a complete turn-on for all the girls in his school if not for the fact that he is such an idiot (puts on flame sheild).

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-19, 03:07
BTW, this is a really old issue though but I still want to ask this:
is there a metaphor behind Eri's order for Bloody Mary after she misunderstood that Yakumo is dating Harima.

kenjiharima
2006-10-19, 04:34
Eri's Blood Marry pose is like a paraody of Sharon Stones Basic instinct to taunt Yakumo, which leads to a lesbian faction Yakumo x Eri Bloody Marry

As for Harima not having all the girls?... Well remember when he was the gangster type Harima? He was 15 or 14 back then and people FEARED him so maybe that's one reason why girls don't come up to him. But Yakumo is her type, the bad ass bad boy, eye glass wearing, hige growing, kick ass fighting delinquent. As for Eri she's attracted to his body and developed along as the SR story progressed.

biomy
2006-10-20, 00:53
in all due honesty, i don't think harima and eri are ever gonna hook up or anything but like, they could make really interesting ``best`` friends and pen-pals

ZODDGUTS
2006-10-20, 03:15
Somehow i suspect something is wrong with the water harima drank. Hmm Nakamura could have spike it with something interesting.




Now that I re-read the chapter I don't it's water either Harima mentions "if this is water? I think he may have been drinking wine or some kind of Alcohol bevarage kinda odd for him to say if it's water because everyone knows how water taste right? lol :heh:

If it is Alcohol it we may have a drunk Harima next chapter. Though I may be wrong about this...

~S~
2006-10-20, 08:47
MIKOTO was so close she was ready willing and decided on obtaining a relationship of more than just friends. I suspect that this relationship died the minute he did not show up at the appointed date and time, she even had a cold and still did not cancel, Asou never even knew how different it could have been the next day at school. The future would have been.....!!!!!!???? Ch.B44

Freeter
2006-10-20, 10:23
Hehe...final nail in the coffin for Basketball.

If Hanai finds out about this he'd beat the crap out of Asou in a split second :heh:

JarOfMayo
2006-10-20, 11:20
The future would have been.....!!!!!!???? Ch.B44

I was wondering what the time of this chapter was and all... and poof toward the end it was obvious it was the last date for Miko-Asou. Kinda sad especially seeing Miko-chan so fired up for it.

Tae-san~ \(^_^)/
What doe she keep in her medicine cabinet... lol :heh:

canza
2006-10-20, 21:15
Gee, I don't know, but if Harima and Eri were indeed closer... it felt awkward and cold. :uhoh: I just can't see those 2 together. Actually, I can't really see Yakumo either.
Really, Tenma is the one who fits better with Harima.

Hmmm the way I think of it is.....

Ok so you say that Tenma is the only one who will really fit with Tenma right? Does it really matter though? KJ won't be explaining about how things are AFTER Harima and Tenma become together. He won't make like 5 episdoes saying how right they are for each other. The ending will probably consist of HOW Harima and Tenma get together for the FIRST time. And since the story would probably not be enjoyable if that actually happened, it'd be better off if Eri(or Yakumo) becomes the girl Harima dates.

So if Eri and Harima being together seems "awkward", we probably won't know if that's true or not unless KJ explains of what happens AFTER they are together. He won't explain. So if they break off after their first date, then who cares? KJ won't mention that. He would only concentrate on how Eri becomes Harima's girl.

Does this make sense? Cause I seem to be rambling...

taichikun14
2006-10-21, 01:36
i couldn't imagine harima ending up with anyone other than tenma though. it just seems that since the start of the manga, KJ's really emphasized harima's unconditional love for tenma, like...A LOT! i would imagine that it would take a HUGE miracle (and probably another 200 or so SR chapters) to change harima's mind about tenma.

for me, i really just love harima and hope he ends up happy. if that means being with tenma or eri or yakumo or tennouji or WHOEVER--!!! ...then that's just fine with me. harima really deserves the happy ending. he's gone through SO much crap ever since the "hentai-san incident" :)

biomy
2006-10-21, 01:58
this is the song that never ends this is the school rumble that never ends this is the love comedy that never ends

not a delinquent anime !

Bamse
2006-10-21, 09:00
if harima ends up with tenma it would make me kinda sad lol. i cant even think of how harima and tenma are gonna end up.

harima x eri !!!

~S~
2006-10-21, 09:02
I have to agree with Ojou the night was still young Damn that Combat butler Nakamura and his idea to get to his heart by way of his hobby, The 3 slashed(Samurai) Epic{bad Idea}. Mangoku in the end always leaves without a single word except for a goodbye. Well This time he did leave a message not everything was for naught(until next time!). Lay the foundation one humorous enconter/interaction at a time and it will manifest into......!!!!!????つづく ch.199

JarOfMayo
2006-10-21, 11:42
BAHAHAHAHAHA :eyespin:
I reserved comment on this short episode.... cause it just smelled that usual way. I'm sorry I'm usually the positive reader here lol :heh:

But anyway... developments (or what many might say are not at all... maybe)
-Harima finds Eri's house fun. Yay! :D
-The possibility of future visits are open with this small arc.

-The debate between the two sides of Eri shows the problematics of Harima's tunnel vision for Tenma...
-The one side that insists Eri stay conservative and "wait" on Harima is gonna fail considering that tunnel vision...
-Even if the other side is betting on nothing more but Eri's own feelings, its gonna have to be that way (considering how Harima is).

So many cute chapters lately. Eri overload ne? :D

I'm a bit behind with SR... I just finished reading vol. 14 and now I have to look for some scans to get up-to-date, before I can join the discussion.
One question though: Why do you just have this one thread for the manga instead of opening a new one for every chapter, like in some of the other subforums for still running mangas?
It's very hard to navigate through a thread with more than 800 posts and the database would probably also be more efficient with single threads.

True... But honestly... outside of when the anime is running this forum gets really quiet lol and its almost like we reconverge for big chapters and disappear the rest of the time... lol SR readers just aren't a bunch of narutofanboys combing around all the time. :heh:

arias
2006-10-21, 12:48
I'm betting on an Imouto arc soon :D

BOZZY
2006-10-21, 13:10
That was quite a good chapter, it didn't end in the expected way...

Just curious though... In chapter 197...

What manga was Nakamura reading? I've noticed that previously they had a reference to Love Hina in School Rumble (a reference of KJ's friendship with Akamatsu) and was wondering... could it have been another reference to Akamatsu or just a generic manga he was reading?

Streetor
2006-10-21, 13:36
damn, may be a break and a new arc now

KaneDragon
2006-10-21, 13:41
Ah, a climatic battle that ends in meh. The highlight being Eri spazzing out over "ZOMG HE THINKS I'M CUTE". It was fun while it lasted.

Streetor
2006-10-21, 14:14
Ah, a climatic battle that ends in meh. The highlight being Eri spazzing out over "ZOMG HE THINKS I'M CUTE". It was fun while it lasted.

Lots of progress made though. Eri's finally come to terms with her feelings.

Azuma Denton
2006-10-21, 14:20
Errr may i ask one question here?
Why did Mikoto break up with Asou?
I havent seen the latest chapter of SR..

Streetor
2006-10-21, 14:50
Asou dumped her.

Felt he wasn't good enough for her since she beat his ass in everything

Azuma Denton
2006-10-21, 15:01
WHAT ???!!!!
Shocked, speechless...

What a stupid reason. How come Asou so stupid ??!!!

She beat his ass in everything?? OMG !!!!
Guess i lost my respect to Asou now...

Diedrupo
2006-10-21, 15:05
Actually I think its because Asou realized that Mikoto didn't really love him, or maybe he got the wrong impression that he wasn't good enough for her, which is pretty fair.

ChainLegacy
2006-10-21, 15:50
Well, 198 cut the visit short, but I suppose that's to be expected. Typical hilarious ending, but there was some good development between Eri and Harima, or at least it seemed that way.

KaneDragon
2006-10-21, 16:28
WHAT ???!!!!
Shocked, speechless...

What a stupid reason. How come Asou so stupid ??!!!

She beat his ass in everything?? OMG !!!!
Guess i lost my respect to Asou now...

Don't take everything too seriously. Their breakup was never shown, just the aftermath. And it was probably because Mikoto looked happier with Hanai.

Matt Soulblade
2006-10-21, 16:35
Its probably because Mikoto didnt treat the relatiionship seriously, they were like friend going out, and Asou couldnt stand the situation anymore...
Such a cheap way to finish everything... well, it was good while it lasted

Azuma Denton
2006-10-21, 23:11
Yeah i havent read the latest chapter so i dont know the story.
But it's a good thing that Ojou-chan n HariKen relation is improving.

kvnphm1
2006-10-22, 02:19
I always though Asou was jealous of Hanai and how Mitoko was more natural with him. In one of the picture you can see Hanai in the background. This is just my take on it.

Zishi
2006-10-22, 05:51
At first I didn't really get the role of those foreigners. Are they just there on their own school trip and get in the way by coincidence, or do they have some sort of deeper connection?.
They was on their own school trip, thats why they was there. Max knew Eri from before in a school in England. Thats all their connection is.

The next thing is the event at the temple: After Harima was beaten, Eri came and talked with him... so since when did she realize Harima's feelings for Tenma, or did she just misunderstood and thought he was talking about her? But in this case, she should have realized, at the latest, when he said Karasuma's name (because there is just one person in the story, who could possibly think of Karasuma).
Eri thinks he ran because it was infront of her he lost the fight, and at the temple she is talking to him in 3rd person. Its her feelings she is telling not Tenma's in other words.

A few chapters later, someone said, that Eri is the fiancée of someone. Now this is totally confusing, because it doesn't make sense. A few volumes ago, her parents wanted her to go to an omiai, which couldn't have happened if she already were engaged. So was this some sort of "She is my fiancée, because *I* want it and it's unimportant what she says"-thing, or was this just part of the show? :confused: She had an fiancee who we dont know who it is. She declines the marriage around chapter 150. We dont know if Max is or was Eri's fiancee yet. It might just been a line to provoke Harima.

Next: After recieving his paper, Harima puts it to the others and the rain copies his name on an other paper with Eri's name on it... now how did Eri's paper get there? Nobody ever got it back, so how could it even hang there in the first place? And why did Eri later came to that place again? She didn't have her paper.
On Eri's paper there was just her name on, she was still unsure about her feelings. The charm was stuck under Harima's charm so in the rain the ink ran through so it said Eri+Harima. Its that simple :) To why she came back was they promised each other that they would meet and put up a charm together. But when she came there harima was gone with just one charm on the pile. So she thought she was too late to their promise. And harima got the charm back from Max after he beat him.

KaneDragon
2006-10-22, 13:20
The two pieces of paper must have been right on top of each other, then.

Azuma Denton
2006-10-22, 14:33
I just read the Kyoto Chapter of SR..

I think that Harima's paper is on the top of Sawachika's paper.
When raining, the ink was copied to Sawachika paper..
But i think that's nearly impossible coz usually the word will be blur.

Maybe i'll do some testing tomorrow..

Err, about the confession of Ojou-chan, i wanna clear something up.

When Ojou-chan speaks to Harima @ temple, she thinks Harima is protecting her. So she doesnt mean Tenma. She only speaks of her feeling in 3rd person view. When Harima mention about Karasuma, Ojou-chan thinks that Harima is thinking that Ojou-chan likes Karasuma.


So far the story has been heated up again after Kyoto chapter. Cant wait for the next chapter.

I also wanna comment about Asou n Suou. I take back about what i said few days ago about Asou. After i read the Kyoto chapter n later on, I can understand Asou feeling. Coz i've been in Asou's position when i was in high school. >.<

Zishi
2006-10-22, 18:24
Yes ofcourse it would be blurred, but this is School Rumble. No ordinary reality show ;)

ZODDGUTS
2006-10-23, 17:28
In other words don't think too much into it. :)

Vermouth
2006-10-24, 07:48
It's a little plothole I suppose...Eri could have put another paper with only her name, deciding to forget about the stolen one, but it's just too far-fetched :P. Or maybe I'm missing something...

About 198
I'm afraid I (and all Flag's fan here :P ) was putting too much hope in this story arc...I hoped at least in some "soft" moments (Harima falling asleep with Eri looking at him or something )...anyway those two are really more close; sending an e-mail saying he had fun at Eri's mansion is something unexpected by Harima

Oh, that's my first post, nice to meet you all ;)

darthive
2006-10-24, 21:58
these last chapters were the best !! eri x harima
i wonder what will he put next ......
i hope it doesnt end to soon cause its good to expect something for weekends

question 1 : is miko-chan going to confess asou ??? is it definite??

question 2 : doses anybody think that when karasuma leaves SR will end?

i hope harima x eri but i think it really a long way to go
some 30 chapters at least

well this is my first post too , this discussion roks !

BOZZY
2006-10-25, 00:05
You know what I find funny with the recent chapters being Flagarrific...

In Volume 4, there is a "Trading Card" image after a chapter, one of which is of Eri Sawachika and it has as one of her highest stats, "Couple with Harima".

Townsocks
2006-10-25, 01:32
You know what I find funny with the recent chapters being Flagarrific...

In Volume 4, there is a "Trading Card" image after a chapter, one of which is of Eri Sawachika and it has as one of her highest stats, "Couple with Harima".

That kanji is "tai" which means against.

She has a level 10 "against Harima"

Haha, you prolly don't have to spolier things from book 4 you know~

Azuma Denton
2006-10-25, 01:56
Actually, I thought from the beginning, that Karasuma's leaving will mark the end of the series and everything is just planned to take place in this one year. I just hope, that if the author planned it this way, he won't change his opinion.
It looks like the series is pretty successful and brings a lot of money; some "mentally weaker" authors could sway to continue even if it wasn't their original intention.
But in nigakki there is some speculation about sangakki. So i suppose there is a chance that Karasuma stays.

Oh yeah, anyone know why did Karasuma want to transfer school? In the first chapter of SR, Karasuma stated that he will study abroad. This kinda weird, coz he already has a successful career as mangaka? So why did he choose to study abroad?

darthive
2006-10-25, 16:40
hehe i just hope it doesnt end soon

anyways does anybody knows when sangakki is going to be realised

armuk
2006-10-29, 04:45
That kanji is "tai" which means against.

She has a level 10 "against Harima"

Haha, you prolly don't have to spolier things from book 4 you know~

yea i agree ur rite. townsocks - do you also happen to be the same townsocks who is currently (single-handedly and doing a fantastic job) scanlating SR manga chapters?

btw, does anyone know when chapter 199 is to be released(if chapter 199 is the next chapter to be released)? And on what day the new chapters are being released(so the same as the release day of new issues of Weekly Shonen Magazine - in which School Rumble is serialised)?

thanks

~S~
2006-10-29, 09:36
After the fight will there be love left.....!!!!???? Eri~Kenji... Coming soon.....THE MOVIE. There is no stopping class 2~D's album the only choice left is to accept it and......(ch.199)

A week is to long for that Special ch 200. that is on its way: Let the

-->Pride
&
-->Passion

-->Continue<--

~Hige...Ojou~

Mentar
2006-10-29, 16:06
Goodness gracious O_O

(That's all I can say to chapter 199)

Zishi
2006-10-29, 16:24
Haha, tougo is crazy XD

Funniest chapter in a good while :)

Moogster
2006-10-29, 16:30
Tougo redefined the word "Manly." Lol

He was so damn funny. Great Chapter!

ZODDGUTS
2006-10-29, 16:33
lol I I knew something was up with Akira when she stayed silent and then later "suddenly" dissapeared she was the one who shot those scenes. :heh:

Love the Tougou scene were he goes "AUOOOOOOOO!!!!!" :p

KaneDragon
2006-10-29, 16:43
Pah, Akira strikes again. Not exactly what I was expecting, but oh well.


Flag confusion is continuing... Poor Eri/Harima... How could they be overruled, as class representatives?

Oh wait--
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4949/rumblepg6.jpg

=P

So much for the album... =/

kauldron26
2006-10-29, 20:57
wow... after 199, i dont even know wut to think anymore...

Forever
2006-10-29, 20:59
OMG! Just when I thought it is time to for an onigiri arc, the photo album actually continues in a way I never thought it would!

Nevertheless a good chapter though. I forsee even more worse misunderstandings ahead already. Damn it jin just because eri went further than yakumo in saimoe, doesnt mean you have to keep pushing eri in the limelight! :heh:

SonicMonkey
2006-10-29, 21:06
omg lol!! Akira + Tougo == the win!

That was one of the funniest chapters I've seen in a long time. I was really not surprised when I found out that Akira shot the scenes for the preview movie, she's been quietly meddling in Eri's favor for a while now, but this was pretty huge.

I have to admit that the mangaka stunned me a little bit by continuing the album story arc in this totally unexpected way, it'll be a riot to see how it plays out.

KaneDragon
2006-10-29, 21:36
quietly meddling in Eri's favor for a while now, but this was pretty huge.

In Eri's favor? I'm not so sure she has Eri's best interests at heart this time. :heh: Both for the heavy misunderstandings the movie causes and for rendering all their effort worthless. :mad:

She's just in it for the meddling. And the money. :D


I wonder what 2chan would label an Akira x Tougo faction as...

BOZZY
2006-10-29, 22:13
Maybe they'd call it hot blood mission impossible? ><

The chapter surprised me too, now if only that Eri x Harima scene actually happens in the manga... ><

ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-29, 23:05
I wonder what 2chan would label an Akira x Tougo faction as...

how bout the movie faction?

DeathRaptor
2006-10-30, 01:59
how bout the movie faction?

that sounds great actually :D

Altough I wonder what will be Yakumo reaction to it. :(

Vermouth
2006-10-30, 02:51
Where can I buy the tickets for the movie? :heh:

ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-30, 10:03
yakumo should be on the movie......as one of the bad guy that trying to separate harima and eri......hehehehehehe

DeathRaptor
2006-10-30, 14:00
yakumo should be on the movie......as one of the bad guy that trying to separate harima and eri......hehehehehehe

I dunno why but I see her sad in the future :(

Zishi
2006-10-30, 15:18
Well we know that Yakumo will e happy in the future after we saw the dream she had. She will have a nice collage life with Sarah. So I cant say she will have a sad future...

KaneDragon
2006-10-30, 16:19
Well we know that Yakumo will e happy in the future after we saw the dream she had. She will have a nice collage life with Sarah. So I cant say she will have a sad future...

If it's a Yakumo x Sara pairing, the fans certainly won't be sad. :D

kauldron26
2006-10-30, 19:33
in whatt chapter or episode, do we see her future??

Zishi
2006-10-30, 19:36
in chapter b38, its in a bonus chapter and not in the realchapters. B-chapters usually covers sidestories =)

ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-30, 20:08
If it's a Yakumo x Sara pairing, the fans certainly won't be sad. :D

LOL....I second to that. :D I dont think she got the chemistry with harima, neither does tenma. Harima view yakumo as total friend, and he's too tense and rigid around tenma. none of them make him comfortable, unlike eri. Harima feel comfortable when he visit eri's place and actually have fun.

this whole movie idea should be continue all the way.....Togou is da man this time...

Hypernova
2006-10-31, 03:54
The shit really hits the fan this time, but how did Akira managed to do the ErixHarima shot? I don't remember them actually doing it so no amount of stalking (And Akira has obvoiusly done alot since she got all that on film) will produce it.

Actors? CG?

Arkhan
2006-10-31, 04:13
The shit really hits the fan this time, but how did Akira managed to do the ErixHarima shot? I don't remember them actually doing it so no amount of stalking (And Akira has obvoiusly done alot since she got all that on film) will produce it.

Actors? CG?

Just pure fantasy. SR usually uses inexplicable situations for the gags.

Forever
2006-10-31, 07:52
The shit really hits the fan this time, but how did Akira managed to do the ErixHarima shot? I don't remember them actually doing it so no amount of stalking (And Akira has obvoiusly done alot since she got all that on film) will produce it.

Actors? CG?

Akira can easily be a godlike CG editor.....

kenjiharima
2006-10-31, 12:55
Nice chapter...made me laugh!! My name is Lala CODENAME: GoriLA :heh:
Either way the misunderstanding is building up. And when Harima was about to kiss Eri does'nt she look alike Yakumo? Maybe that's Yakumo in a blonde wig? And Harima practicing a new prespective to his manga? MAybe...


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/MANGAERI_HAREMA_KISS.jpg

Slim_Ghost
2006-10-31, 21:25
OMG! Just when I thought it is time to for an onigiri arc, the photo album actually continues in a way I never thought it would!

Nevertheless a good chapter though. I forsee even more worse misunderstandings ahead already. Damn it jin just because eri went further than yakumo in saimoe, doesnt mean you have to keep pushing eri in the limelight! :heh:
I think the plot of this manga is based on the character pairing polls. I have noticed that in the beginning Harima is paired up with not only Eri and Yakumo but also with Mikoto (wrapping her bruised hand as a deity and the 'date' at the cafe....I wondered what did she wanted to ask anyway), Anegasaki (her seduction, and her constant glomping on him whenever she sees him) and even his own cousin Itoko (his accidental confession at the hospital) and Tani (love letter incident).
I guessed that KJ tested Harima's 'compatibility' with various female characters in the series and picked the best from the character poll that ensued. Every character is filtered out except for Yakumo and Eri, thus both the Onigiri and Flag events midway along the story. Then as Eri proved to be more and more popular, the manga shifts heavily then to Flag events.

Bamse
2006-11-01, 08:07
Nice chapter...made me laugh!! My name is Lala CODENAME: GoriLA :heh:
Either way the misunderstanding is building up. And when Harima was about to kiss Eri does'nt she look alike Yakumo? Maybe that's Yakumo in a blonde wig? And Harima practicing a new prespective to his manga? MAybe...


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/MANGAERI_HAREMA_KISS.jpg




just wow i dont know what to say about this pic but it sure makes me happy :p

harima x eri !!!

darthive
2006-11-02, 00:14
is chapter 200 going to be a special??

eri x harima !!!

cant wait for it ... also

why akira want to pair them so baadly XD

taichikun14
2006-11-02, 04:11
I think the plot of this manga is based on the character pairing polls. I have noticed that in the beginning Harima is paired up with not only Eri and Yakumo but also with Mikoto (wrapping her bruised hand as a deity and the 'date' at the cafe....I wondered what did she wanted to ask anyway), Anegasaki (her seduction, and her constant glomping on him whenever she sees him) and even his own cousin Itoko (his accidental confession at the hospital) and Tani (love letter incident).
I guessed that KJ tested Harima's 'compatibility' with various female characters in the series and picked the best from the character poll that ensued. Every character is filtered out except for Yakumo and Eri, thus both the Onigiri and Flag events midway along the story. Then as Eri proved to be more and more popular, the manga shifts heavily then to Flag events.

Hm that would be somewhat sad to me if this was true and the mangaka let fans completely influence his story. the story should be coming from HIS mind.... :(

The Small One
2006-11-02, 04:43
Hm that would be somewhat sad to me if this was true and the mangaka let fans completely influence his story. the story should be coming from HIS mind.... :(
Exactly.

But I still hope for a major turn during the next few chapters.

Arkhan
2006-11-02, 05:46
Exactly.

But I still hope for a major turn during the next few chapters.

Yeah, it feels like that. It's not that I hope a turn but I think it's gonna happen. And maybe the Flaggers will be very disappointed.

otacu
2006-11-02, 14:43
Hm that would be somewhat sad to me if this was true and the mangaka let fans completely influence his story. the story should be coming from HIS mind.... :(

The rumor that the author decided to make the manga Flag focused because of popularity polls results is just a silly rumor (or whishful onigirist thinking).

This is proved by the simple fact that in the 3 official characters popularity polls Eri never came in first

1st character poll
1st place Tenma (Eri is 4th)

2nd character poll
1st place Harima(Eri is 2nd)

3rd character poll
1st place Yakumo (Eri is 2nd)

If the author was supposed to decide of the plot based on polls he would have clearly choosen Yakumo since she WAS the most popular.
Instead he choosed to develop the story as he planned from the start meaning that Eri-Harima was the new focus of the manga (with Harima-Tenma more and more on a support role). This was clear when Eri began to receive the biggest character development in the whole manga ever since the "failed" confession from Harima. After that the "possible" pairings Mikoto, Anegasaki, Yakumo were simply thrown in to explore Eri's feelings and test her reactions. In all these arcs Eri and her feeling are the focus while the "other girls" are simply a background and act to provoke Eri. Even Yakumo was like that. That's even more clear when you take into consideration not only the sheer amount of chapters devoted to Flag (the vast majority) but the fact that when a rare Onigiri chapter comes out there is always a place for Eri to appear and show us her struggle and feelings for Harima (when Yakumo helped Harima with his manga and there was the limousine scene or when Harima was at the Tsukamoto's House and we got panels about Eri staring at the moon). The manga was always focused on Flag. It's just that die-hard onigirist never accepted that and recently when the lack of Onigiri chapters became overwhelming they tried to find an explanation in the popularity polls (since Eri always get 1,5 the Yakumo's votes in recent polls and in the recent Saimoe 2006 Eri reached top 8).

And that's for the better if i have to add my personal opinion (and preference). Eri is a much complete and better character than Yakumo and fit the role of SR heroine perfectly. SR is comedy and romance meaning that there are many funny moments but even serious ones. Tenma is just too silly to be completely serious when needed and Yakumo is just too serious and submissive to follow the wacky Harima and the rest of the cast in their antics. Eri on the other hand can be completely hilarious in a scene and then dead serious few seconds later thanks to her developed and balanced character.

The manga "seems" to lead to a Flag ending but that's not a recent twist. The no returning point was the sport festival (chapter 85 title "The Turning Point"). Maybe there will be some Yakumo chapters in the future but i guess it won't be anything worth changing the direction of the plot. To change that there should be a new major turning point.

kenjiharima
2006-11-02, 17:07
The rumor that the author decided to make the manga Flag focused because of popularity polls results is just a silly rumor (or whishful onigirist thinking).

This is proved by the simple fact that in the 3 official characters popularity polls Eri never came in first

1st character poll
1st place Tenma (Eri is 4th)

2nd character poll
1st place Harima(Eri is 2nd)

3rd character poll
1st place Yakumo (Eri is 2nd)

If the author was supposed to decide of the plot based on polls he would have clearly choosen Yakumo since she WAS the most popular.
Instead he choosed to develop the story as he planned from the start meaning that Eri-Harima was the new focus of the manga (with Harima-Tenma more and more on a support role). This was clear when Eri began to receive the biggest character development in the whole manga ever since the "failed" confession from Harima. After that the "possible" pairings Mikoto, Anegasaki, Yakumo were simply thrown in to explore Eri's feelings and test her reactions. In all these arcs Eri and her feeling are the focus while the "other girls" are simply a background and act to provoke Eri. Even Yakumo was like that. That's even more clear when you take into consideration not only the sheer amount of chapters devoted to Flag (the vast majority) but the fact that when a rare Onigiri chapter comes out there is always a place for Eri to appear and show us her struggle and feelings for Harima (when Yakumo helped Harima with his manga and there was the limousine scene or when Harima was at the Tsukamoto's House and we got panels about Eri staring at the moon). The manga was always focused on Flag. It's just that die-hard onigirist never accepted that and recently when the lack of Onigiri chapters became overwhelming they tried to find an explanation in the popularity polls (since Eri always get 1,5 the Yakumo's votes in recent polls and in the recent Saimoe 2006 Eri reached top 8).

And that's for the better if i have to add my personal opinion (and preference). Eri is a much complete and better character than Yakumo and fit the role of SR heroine perfectly. SR is comedy and romance meaning that there are many funny moments but even serious ones. Tenma is just too silly to be completely serious when needed and Yakumo is just too serious and submissive to follow the wacky Harima and the rest of the cast in their antics. Eri on the other hand can be completely hilarious in a scene and then dead serious few seconds later thanks to her developed and balanced character.

The manga "seems" to lead to a Flag ending but that's not a recent twist. The no returning point was the sport festival (chapter 85 title "The Turning Point"). Maybe there will be some Yakumo chapters in the future but i guess it won't be anything worth changing the direction of the plot. To change that there should be a new major turning point.


Remember the B.Chapter 43? IT all started with Eri, but in the end it was Yakumo but in Iori's body.

The Small One
2006-11-03, 01:35
Actually I still think, that Harima is destined to end with Tenma, because of their "history". Though it never really was proven, that the girl he rescued was really Tenma, Harima beeing himself could have made a mistake during researching who the girl was.

I think this series could go endless, always straying form one side to the other... however I don't hope so. :)

Slim_Ghost
2006-11-03, 05:54
LMFAO. I can imagine Harima saying "OMG OMG I was chasing after the wrong girl for a year!Stupid me!".
But unfortunately last episode of Ni-Gakki confirmed it. That would make a very interesting plot twist, but it wouldn't happen.

taichikun14
2006-11-03, 10:50
yeah that's true. tenma's always recalling harima's face when he takes off his glasses, so their "history" had to have happened. anyways, i hope harima somehow still ends up with tenma again. the series would be so empty to me if he didn't because he was so dedicated to her for what, 200 chapters straight?

The Small One
2006-11-03, 12:52
yeah that's true. tenma's always recalling harima's face when he takes off his glasses, so their "history" had to have happened.
IMHO this isn't really a definite sign for it. After all she just remembers, that she has seen him... which of course it's true, since he is her classmate and she sees him everyday.

But it's really unlikely, that he could have met someone else... because who should it be then? Yakumo with a different hairstyle? Or Eri with dyed hair? All not very likely...


But I really wonder, what kind of impact it would have on the story, if Tenma remembered. After all she didn't even think very good of the guy who rescued her, therefore it shouldn't really change her feelings towards Harima very much, at least not in a positive way.

hi no ken Jebus
2006-11-04, 07:58
For the 200th chapter it's a murder mystery at a hot springs with hanai a police inspector and harima a private detective with Tenma as his assistant. Hilarity ensues.

KaneDragon
2006-11-04, 12:34
Pfft. No relation to previous arc or whatever comes next. Better luck next time.

Vermouth
2006-11-04, 13:44
ROTFL Detective Conan crossover :D

DeathRaptor
2006-11-04, 14:34
What a letdown =/ I was expecting a lot more from this chapter.... =/

taichikun14
2006-11-04, 14:54
interesting way to celebrate a 200th chapter. ah well, all that's left is to wait for next week.

zidanej
2006-11-04, 15:30
Hahaha, I'm laughing my ass off after seeing chapter 200. After all the hype and excitement we get a bull**** chapter. Lol.

The Small One
2006-11-04, 16:03
Well it isn't really the 200th chapter, if you count in the side-stories. :)

Streetor
2006-11-04, 17:41
This KJ mangaka is a useless bastard... after all the hype reagrding #200, nothing even happens. what. the. fuck. i am so sick and tired of this shit. I am now conviced this bufoon only cares about money. who gives a rats ass if we see the characters as detectives and shit?? waste of time. unbefuckinlevable.

School Rumble is serious business for this guy.

daoster
2006-11-04, 18:48
Was the hype created by the mangaka or the fan? IF it's the latter, then blame yourself!

ZODDGUTS
2006-11-04, 23:51
Funny chapter heh Tenma couldn't come up with a explanation poor Harima.

For some reason I thought that Karen would be the killer...

Good Detective Conan parody.

I think it's gonna go back for awhile now to it's episodic nature then they'll be another small arc again. I guess I'm already used to this since I don't really have a problem to it like some people do... :heh:

Slim_Ghost
2006-11-05, 03:41
You may have not noticed it, but School Rumble is a romantic comedy with a very heavy emphasis on the comedy part. Unlike other R/Cs where the story focuses on love with comedy as a supporting role, School Rumble presents it in the other way around.
You won't get to see luvie-duvie moments in every other chapter if that's what you hoped for.

KaneDragon
2006-11-06, 12:08
Yes. I was spoiled by delicious flag. I should have expected that it would not last. T_T

tieu_yeu_nu
2006-11-06, 21:59
tat was an okay chapter. i've always enjoyed these sort of chapters but the detective one wasn't as funny.

ps. does anyone know where to get a listing of which chapters belong to which vol?

i own a version of it (up to vol 4) but i still like the online translation, i just wanna put them in the right order. especially the b chapters.

The Small One
2006-11-07, 00:30
i own a version of it (up to vol 4) but i still like the online translation, i just wanna put them in the right order. especially the b chapters.
Aren't the b chapters out of order in the first place?
They are always at the end of a book, even though they should happen somewhere inbetween, which sometimes is a bit confusing.

kenjiharima
2006-11-10, 17:11
I did'nt know that the manga had useless fillers also. KJ should have stoped watching SRnigakki from fillers. But as you know KJ has that thing that when something is getting red hot it ALWAYS cools down duuhh... :heh:

hi no ken Jebus
2006-11-11, 00:03
And spoiler for the next one:rolleyes: .....

It's almost the end of February:rolleyes:, yes that's right it's still February, anyway sawachika's birthday is coming up. She wants to invite Harima but Harima is busy with his own thing. At dankosha they are selecting titles to that will be serialized and Karasuma is there as well. Harima asks him what method he uses since he is able to go to school while having a weekly manga serialized.

Karasuma says he doesn't have any special methods or anything, and then Harima asks for advice. He tells him to do the opposite of what he would normally do, like if something is bothering him he should say awesome!. Harima thinks that's a good way to cheer himself up. Soon after sawachika calls him up and tells him about the party, and as per Karasuma's advice he accepts by saying yahoo. Chapter ends with Harima asking Karasuma if he's dating Tenma and he gives Harima a weird reply.

taichikun14
2006-11-11, 14:37
ahh i don't like the way this is going... what if harima does the opposite and becomes mean towards tenma or something....? noo... but then again, it could work in his favor and be more assertive towards tenma...? or maybe this'll be another big harima x eri arc... hopefully not cuz we've just had hecka of them...

The Small One
2006-11-11, 15:27
Makes me wonder: Is this an advice specially for Harima, or something Karasuma does himself? In the latter case, it would be bad for Tenma, wouldn't it?

taichikun14
2006-11-11, 15:39
it doesn't really seem like karasuma does it for himself... because he doesn't seem any more cheerful... but if it was something karasuma does for himself, then wouldn't it be GOOD for tenma? because that would mean that he actually enjoys being with her? ah who knows.

and in the last panel, is karasuma nodding or shaking his head? i can't really tell because i don't know japanese sound FX things

Matt Soulblade
2006-11-11, 19:07
Looks like were going full throttle for HarimaxEri development. I wonder what that answer was. Yeah, I want Tenma out of Harima reach :D
You go for it Harima! Aim for the best! :D

ZODDGUTS
2006-11-11, 22:08
Awesome it's looks like Jin didn't forget about Eri's birthday. Also clever for having a way for Harima to go to Eri's birthday party. Can't wait to see how things turn out.

Yahooo! :heh:

KaneDragon
2006-11-11, 22:16
That was a nice chapter. More delicious flag misunderstanding. Who knows what the other girls will try to pull at Eri's party.

So, Harima treats Karasuma and asks him if he's dating Temna, and he appears to just nod yes. And that's it. ...

0rphen21
2006-11-11, 22:51
YAHOOO!!! lol wat a reaction :)

taichikun14
2006-11-11, 23:22
on the last panel, it says *shake shake*... so karasuma is NOT going out with tenma... good. :)

and is it just me or is karasuma a little more attractive in the manga than in the anime?

Forever
2006-11-11, 23:51
on the last panel, it says *shake shake*... so karasuma is NOT going out with tenma... good. :)

and is it just me or is karasuma a little more attractive in the manga than in the anime?

Eh remember what karasuma said, always respond opposite in an annoying situation, that means he meant yes.

Sigh more Harima X eri embarrassment ahead

canza
2006-11-12, 02:09
Yes!!!!!! More Harima and Eri action ahead!!!! Love it love it!!!!!!!!

Seriously..if the manga had Harima with someone else..I would have skipped the chapter....until it went back to Hige and Ojou....

I'm surprised a bit of people are disappointed by it....

Pakxenon
2006-11-12, 04:53
That was... a weird response... this misunderstanding was pretty hilarious! XD

I didn't think that Harima would be working in the EDITTING department, though. I'm not sure what they actually do, but it doesn't seem right, especially when he's tampering with somebody else's pages!

The Small One
2006-11-12, 06:12
it doesn't really seem like karasuma does it for himself... because he doesn't seem any more cheerful... but if it was something karasuma does for himself, then wouldn't it be GOOD for tenma? because that would mean that he actually enjoys being with her? ah who knows.

But isn't he already enjoying it? If not he could just say something like "leave me alone". In this case the opposite would be, that he'd rather be alone instead of spending his time with her. Confusing. :eyespin:

ichigoismyhomie
2006-11-12, 15:26
on the last panel, it says *shake shake*... so karasuma is NOT going out with tenma... good. :)

and is it just me or is karasuma a little more attractive in the manga than in the anime?

karasuma said to give opposite response for unwanted situation. Could it be that he didn't want harima to snooping around about his relation with tenma, that karasuma responded the opposite of what really going on?

in that case maybe something going on between him and tenma.

anyhow.....harima's response is unexpected. i smell another huge misunderstanding or probably progress with eri, maybe tenma too. since tenma was invited to the party...along with all the girls.

gaaaaaah.....i can't wait for the next chapter to come up. I say harima better pimp'd out all of them....hehehe:D

Swampstorm
2006-11-13, 11:20
There seems to be some confusion regarding the joke in this chapter.

Karasuma tells Harima that if he thinks a negative thought, he should say something positive (note that this is not the same as "do the opposite of what you're thinking"). He does not, however, say what Harima should do if he thinks a positive thought. The ambivalence of the response is because of the following:

Negative Thought -> Positive Response
Positive Thought -> Positive Response

As a result, if someone is following that principle, you cannot tell what their "real" response actually is, since they will always respond in the positive.

The last panel is somewhat unclear. The sfx is literally supposed to be "shake, shake", but shaking can refer to any sort of oscillation. By convention, however, we use the words "nod" and "shake" differently to distinguish between "yes" and "no" respectively. Does the sfx make that same distinction?

In any case, I found this chapter interesting for a number of reasons.
1) Eri's directness in this chapter was somewhat surprising. She recognizes that she's only invited girls to the party, so she doesn't really have a good excuse to mask the reason why she wants him over. Yet, she was able to give Harima the invitation with little amount of difficulty. The two of them seem fairly comfortable talking to each other on the phone whenever they feel like it, as of late.

2) In one of the pages, KJ gives out an apology in one of the side panels. This strikes me as interesting because it is the first time (as far as I can recall) that KJ has directly spoken in the first person in those side panel comments. Usually, they tend to be purely descriptive (eg. Sawachika Eri, a little more mature) without saying anything about whose opinions they are. While we've always assumed those side panel comments to be the author's thoughts, this establishes them as being such. This isn't anything really significant, of course, but its nice to know.

3) With regards to Harima's question on Karasuma and Tenma dating, I think it's more significant to consider the manner in which it is asked than to consider what is being asked. Karasuma is supposedly Harima's ultimate rival, and the question that Harima has put out is supposedly of ultimate importance to him - but he seems to attach no more significance to it than if he were simply asking about the weather.

By contrast, consider when Eri asked the exact same question of Yakumo, about 75 chapters earlier. At that moment, you knew that the question was an important one, from the expression on Eri's face when she asked it, and the way that her spirits were raised when she heard the response.

It's interesting how the same question, asked with regards to two different relationships, can have two vastly different presentations. One question becomes the climactic moment of a major story arc, and the other becomes part of a gag. I like Oudou quite a bit (especially the shopping scene with Tenma and Harima's birthday present to Tenma) but I think the manner in which the pairing is presented often tends to dilute its overall impact.

I'm surprised a bit of people are disappointed by it....
It shouldn't be all that surprising.

However, I do find it somewhat amusing that we have some people who are content to parrot out the ever popular "there is no progress" each week (without considering the fact that you cannot determine what counts as progress and what doesn't without knowing the destination - which none of us know) and at the same time, we have some other people who complain that there is too much progress in a particular direction. It's really tough to please everybody. :heh:

I think we'll always have trouble with regards to our expectations of School Rumble just so long as we are unable to find common answers to the following:

1) What genre is School Rumble? (Comedy? Romance? Commentary on High School Life? Slice of Life?)
2) Who is the protagonist?
3) Who is the protagonist supposed to end up with, if anyone?

As long as we can't agree on the answers to these questions, there will always be complaints about SR's failure to conform to our perceptions of what it is "supposed to be". Most romantic comedies have all these mapped out fairly clearly at the outset, so we know the destination, and can thus gauge what counts as "progress" and what doesn't. Originality is nice, but people seem to like the guidance of a known story structure to know where they are going.

Oh, and I think that Eri's after school look with her hair down looks amazing, as of these last few chapters. :D

JarOfMayo
2006-11-13, 12:23
2) In one of the pages, KJ gives out an apology in one of the side panels. This strikes me as interesting because it is the first time (as far as I can recall) that KJ has directly spoken in the first person in those side panel comments. Usually, they tend to be purely descriptive (eg. Sawachika Eri, a little more mature) without saying anything about whose opinions they are. While we've always assumed those side panel comments to be the author's thoughts, this establishes them as being such. This isn't anything really significant, of course, but its nice to know.

Gives out an apology? You mean page 214? That isn't an apology its like any other side comment. In context it meant, Harima needs to apologize for taking the work of manga writers so lightly. lol :heh: Frankly he does... :rolleyes:

Oh, and I think that Eri's after school look with her hair down looks amazing, as of these last few chapters. :D

Right on. :D

Swampstorm
2006-11-17, 11:34
Gives out an apology? You mean page 214? That isn't an apology its like any other side comment. In context it meant, Harima needs to apologize for taking the work of manga writers so lightly. lol :heh: Frankly he does... :rolleyes:
Based on what I read, it seemed to be a direct apology, which, given the situation, strikes me as making more sense. After all, KJ writes Harima's dialogue - Harima doesn't really have a free will of his own. I can't comment on the accuracy of the translation itself, though.

hi no ken Jebus
2006-11-17, 12:15
Yes! Finally a chapter I actually enjoyed reading

spoiler for the next one...

It's sawachika's birthday party, Harima seems out of place since he came just for Tenma and there's only girls there. They cut the cake and leave two pieces for Harima and sawachika. The girls tell her to give it to Harima, when she gives Harima his piece he says he doesn't like sweet things and goes to the balcony. Tenma comes over and they talk about the moon, then she offers him the same piece of cake. She then says she didn't realize guys don't like sweets things and she'll take it back.

He says since she brought it over it and it would be a waste to throw it out, and also he loves cake:heh:. She tells him he doesnt have to force himself, then tells him he's kind and that she likes that side of him. He asks if she's not having any then she says no because she's dieting and then he says he'll eat hers too. She says he might get fat but Harima doesn't really mind etc... Anyway chapter ends with sawachika looking at them with a glare on her face:heh:.

Hanai goes on another adventure of his after he accidentally gets carried away by a moving company because he was sleeping in the school's storeroom.

Swampstorm
2006-11-17, 12:52
Excellent. With the Pencil, Marker, and Onigiri rivalries behind us, things have been a little too stable as of late. It's good to see that we're finally gearing down for some Flag vs. Oudou down towards the final stretch/conflict. It will be interesting to see how this new dynamic pans out. Tenma has even more potential to be a frustrating opponent than her sister, given her tendancy to be oblivious. Hopefully this will bring out some much needed character development on Harima's part, too.

I want to see them get back to that Mikoto/Basketball situation at some point, though.

ZODDGUTS
2006-11-18, 08:05
My God that glare look that Eri had ... :eek:

Tenma may you rest in peace. :heh:

0rphen21
2006-11-18, 08:15
................................. was that killing intent radiating off Eri?:uhoh: :uhoh: looks like Eri is ready to fight for her man aahh errr i mean friend:heh: :heh: :heh:

Forever
2006-11-18, 08:41
Nice chapter. Is this the beginning of the end? Looks like eri is going to figure out who harima truly likes. And my my, eri seems to be very much the jealous sort indeed. Just look at that stare, that killing intent. Friend or not, tenma (or maybe harima) is going to be on her kill list pretty soon.

roestigraben
2006-11-18, 08:56
That last panel...I don't think I've ever seen any girl in a manga look so scary...but I also wonder whether that aggressive glare was directed at Tenma or rather more at Harima?

Streetor
2006-11-18, 11:19
Goddamn I don't think Eri has ever looked that pissed.

I hope she doesn't end up getting her heart crushed.

KaneDragon
2006-11-18, 11:26
Haha, oh wow. I wonder if Eri managed to hear what Harima was trying to say to Temna. Either way, most excellent. This is not going to be just another "Mikoto isn't that cute" moment. ^^

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/2587/townsocksschoolrumble20au5.th.jpg (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=townsocksschoolrumble20au5.jpg)scEri~ ;_;

Vermouth
2006-11-18, 12:56
Ow...Eri is really scary...I'm a little sorry for Tenma, ehehehhe ^^

faust123
2006-11-18, 13:16
Kinda sad that this moment finally came because it will most likely lead to the end of flag as we know it (as Harima has shown VERY little change in his attitude toward eri except for his rando + comments). I guess I should look at the glass as half full though because it could also be the beginning of a bright flag future!

KaneDragon
2006-11-18, 14:39
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/923/aanimemanga22wy6.png

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6519/harimaarcherdg6.jpg

taichikun14
2006-11-18, 14:51
awesome chapter ^_^!!!! first chapter i've liked in months! the balcony scene with tenma and harima was lovely... finally, a little bit of seriousness between them... but arghhh is tenma deaf or something!? harima finally got the guts to say something sweet...arghh....

oh and i got really excited with the last page...finally, things are starting to happen!! it's been a little too happy and quiet in SR lately...

The Small One
2006-11-18, 15:14
This could become interessting, especially since Eri & Tenma are friends. Assuming the author doesn't do something completely ridiculous in the next chapter, which just cancels out this events again.

taichikun14
2006-11-18, 17:22
yeah i hope koboyashi doesn't pull anything ridiculous in the next chapter... i hope he just keeps the story moving along so we can finally see important things happen! i hope he takes this chance to develop SOMETHING...eri's feelings for harima, harima and tenma's relationship, whateveR! i just need something to happen!

anyways, i'm getting the feeling eri might take revenge when they play that "birthday queen" game they played on tenma's birthday... haha don't forget that when tenma made eri eat natto, eri said "i'll remember this..." :p

SonicMonkey
2006-11-18, 18:43
I'm actually... really eagerly waiting a SR chapter now.

That hasn't happened in AGES!

canza
2006-11-18, 22:17
Wow....Eri looked sooooooooooo awesome with that stare...................but I really hope the flag relationship never ends....seriously...

It's great to have Tenma barge in and mess it all up once and awhile...but I hope she doesn't mess things up permanently......:upset:
I'd even be happy if Yakumo screwed things up...not Tenma. But the story would be too perfect and boring without Tenma screwing around with flag =O

wontaek
2006-11-19, 01:08
Here's my take. Tenma is too dumb to be with anyone other that Karasuma. Eri and Harima continues to bring out the WORST in each other; for their sake and everyone else, it is better if they don't come within 100 km of each other. Yakumo is too good for Harima.

Eri is angry at either Tenma or Harima. If she lashes out against Harima, of course he is going to strike back and it is very unlikely he will accept Eri's affections. If she lashes out against Tenma, it will bring out full fury in Harima and all will be scarred forever. If Akira would be pulling the strings, Eri should do nothing and try to approach Harima at another time in different manner. For good of everyone in the School Rumble, I think Harima should not be able to get any girl until both the girl and himself change for better.

Freeter
2006-11-19, 02:01
I'm surprised no one has made comparisons of Eri's burning pic to Harima's burning pic in one of the early chapters.

Next chapter: Eri becomes a shut-in and draws manga :heh:

The Small One
2006-11-19, 03:53
If Akira would be pulling the strings, Eri should do nothing and try to approach Harima at another time in different manner.
Talking about Akira: Se seems to be the only one, who knows for sure that Harima is in love with Tenma, but she is always going with the others in trying to bring Eri and him together. I wonder if she has some sort of overall plan, or just enjoys to see the chaos.

Moogster
2006-11-19, 12:31
I'm surprised no one has made comparisons of Eri's burning pic to Harima's burning pic in one of the early chapters.

You mean this?

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1776/1163951479772hg3.th.png (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1163951479772hg3.png)

taichikun14
2006-11-19, 22:01
hehe i noticed that their scowls were similar...harima's is way more intense though.. look at all them lines all over his face... :P

ichigoismyhomie
2006-11-19, 23:34
awesome beginning of something chaotic in the future. U can't blame tenma for being herself. she was so honest in this chapter, that it makes her look nice. this is one of those rare moments on school rumble where tenma can act/behave/look mature and sincere with harima. and harima...well, he just the same old dorky guy since chapter 1.

on ch. 202, first page. who was the girl in the first page (on the bottom box) that came to the party? the one wearing black top. i wanna say she's sagano, but KJ draw her up too much like tenma.

wontaek
2006-11-20, 01:40
awesome beginning of something chaotic in the future. U can't blame tenma for being herself. she was so honest in this chapter, that it makes her look nice. this is one of those rare moments on school rumble where tenma can act/behave/look mature and sincere with harima. and harima...well, he just the same old dorky guy since chapter 1.

on ch. 202, first page. who was the girl in the first page (on the bottom box) that came to the party? the one wearing black top. i wanna say she's sagano, but KJ draw her up too much like tenma.

I don't know about Harima. He has grown up somewhat from the beginning. When it comes to improvement of self, Harima and Tenma made the most improvement relative to their baseline. The trouble is, their baselines are very low. Everyone else showed some growth, but only Asou and Mikoto seems to have gotten over the hump into new stage of their lives.

miko tian
2006-11-20, 02:21
anyone realize that harima's grown a lot less VIOLENT? in the beginning, damn man, everyone was AFRAID of him, but now, he’s grown to be so considerate and intelligent … so much less of a degenerate.

Eri’s completely stealing the show in SR. This is what … the third consecutive story arc devoted to her? Tenma’s quickly just becoming a side story that inspires Harima x Eri moments, and Yakumo’s like something of the past, seeing as she kinda admitted that she likes Harima, but gives up on going for him. Damn, remember during the school play, when Eri and Yakumo were fighting for Harima? As much as I love Harima x Eri, I’d like to see a bit less of a monopoly over Harima. Or even better, I’d like more progression of their relationship. Right now, more or less it’s:

Eri: !!! ~<3
Harima: …
Eri: [blush]
Harima: Tenma-chan

ichigoismyhomie
2006-11-20, 03:05
he might be way less violent towards others, but when it's coming to being straight foward with tenma, harima hasn't been showing any major improvement since the beginning of the story. She still brought him to his knee and make him look like a dork, something that is definitely not him.

its amazing how beauty can tame the beast.......(in tenma's case, i used the term "beauty" very loosely).