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TrueKnight
2005-01-02, 09:48
So what are they?



See the background of the white collar guys in eps 12? Kinda like the Empire State Building. An organization that determines the fate of the entire world?

Oh wait, I know.

They maybe the Patriots, first they control the US now they're aiming for Japan! HAHA! Expect them to invade Fuka with Metal Gears!

I swear Sunrise staff are a fan of the Metal Gear Series.



No, seriously, what are they?

Roots
2005-01-02, 10:06
I did some research, and I found out what Searrs is! (http://www.sears.com)

It appears that their true identity is hidden behind a major retail outlet...:heh:


I also found out where their main base is located at!!! (http://www.thesearstower.com/)

:cool:

TrueKnight
2005-01-02, 11:06
LMAO!! So their base is at Chicago! Disguised as a retail company!! I cant believe it!! :heh:

Lol no......

Their organization really resembles the Patriots from Metal Gear, or the Zero from Bakuten, a formless organization. Their ideal is to change to world towards the Golden Millenium.

The question is, what is the Golden Millenium anyway? Is it really related at the zodiac signs as previously stated before?

dreamless
2005-01-02, 11:12
Well, the grand daddy of them all is, of course, the Illuminati.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

I'm a bit surprised to see that MGS2 has this much influence on conspiracy theories :p

FlyByNite
2005-01-02, 12:27
OMG, maybe some huge death-ray will shoot out of the Sears tower! :heh:

I wonder when we'll see... 'the softer side of Searrs'... :D

Ialdaboth
2005-01-02, 12:29
Sears is the targeting system of a giant laser-canon satellite orbiting above the school.

When she is angry, bits of landscape disappear.

KuraLighterzZ
2005-01-02, 15:31
Searrs are some kind of living things that HiMEs need to get rid off asap :fingers:

Esper 28
2005-01-02, 17:05
Searrs are some kind of living things that HiMEs need to get rid off asap :fingers:
Actually, those are called Orphans. SEARRS apparently has a way to summon and control Orphans, though.

Diaphanus
2005-01-02, 21:16
The question is, what is the Golden Millenium anyway?Well, I have a feeling that it's not anything like the Silver Millennium! :heh:

Well, the grand daddy of them all is, of course, the Illuminati.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IlluminatiI like this article:
http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html

KuraLighterzZ
2005-01-03, 03:54
Actually, those are called Orphans. SEARRS apparently has a way to summon and control Orphans, though.
nono , i meant searrs , whats the point of getting rid of the orphans again and again and again and again when you just call kill its summoner = no orphan :heh:

pookakitten
2005-01-03, 04:41
Well, there are two "groups" of Orphans... Nagi's and Searrs'. The Searrs ones have the diamond symbol on them somewhere while Nagi's don't.

I know Nagi, however, knows more than he's let on so far. He's got control of his group of Orphans, knows about First District, has alluded to a plan he's got. I noticed Nagi uses his Orphans to test and train the HiME. If they were outmatched, I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow ended the fight, either by killing the Orphan himself or by ordering it to run away. I predict there'll be a big revelation about his identity. Other than Miyu, he's the only character with an unnatural hair color. Maybe he's also artificial.

Samantha

Takemi_Ikazuchi
2005-01-03, 05:21
Searrs is an anime version of Illuminati.

More or less..

Ialdaboth
2005-01-03, 11:24
And now someone has to throw the Knights Templars or the Rosen Kreutz in the mix so we can start to discuss the similarities between My Hime and Foucault's Pendulum.

Abicion
2005-01-04, 12:27
As far as I can tell at this point, Searrs = Tales of Symphonia's Cruxis = Generic Evil Superpower That Has Been Running The World Behind The Schemes For Millenia Waiting The Ideal Conditions Execute Their Master Plan While Disguising Themselves To Ordinary Folk As A Everyday Organization #2890473247

For example Alyssa Searrs(?) and her group(?) Searrs want to bring the Golden Millennium, which we basically know involves destroying the current world to create a new one and not much else at this point.
Mitos Yggdrasil and his group, Cruxis, want to bring the Age of Half-Elves / Lifeless Beings (depending on which side you're on x_x), which is basically this twisted plan in his screwed up little mind to find the one Maiden that he can resurrect his dead sister, Martel, into (deals with synchronizing Mana signatures, lengthy to explain) and then proceed to destroy the current world and create a new one out of it where only he, his reborn sister, and a bunch of mindless half-elves exist. He created the two planets that exist in ToS' present timeline from the one whole original planet that existed millenia ago (how the Hell he got that power is another lengthy explanation), and has been sacrificing poor Chosen girls since. Oh, and he's also the single annoying 4,000-year-old 14-year-old ever.

Alyssa(?) hides Searrs The Superpower behind Searrs The Ordinary-But-Rich American Corporation.
Mitos hides Cruxis behind the religion of Martelism, where everybody is convinced that Mitos is some long-dead war hero and Martel is the Goddess of the Universe or something who gave him the power to save the world and all that fun stuff.

Alyssa's guard dog is a robot and pretends to be pallies with the heroines for the first 1/3 of the series before revealing himself and killing some stuff.
Mitos' guard dog is a robot as far as personality goes (until like the last 1/4 of the game) and pretends to be pallies with the main party for the first 1/3 of the game before revealing himself and attempting to kill them (a bit of a stretch considering Kratos deliberately holds back at this point for massive spoilery reasons, but you get the idea)

Other, random tidbits:
- Miyu is an "Yggdrasil Unit" android in My-HiME TV; Tabatha is an android built by Cruxis for the specific reason of being an artificial body to resurrect Martel Yggdrasil into in ToS (though it's likely they just pulled the name from the same Norse mythology source - Yggdrasil is the tree that literally holds the world in one piece)
- You know that whole "Red Planet Behind The Moon" unexplained plot device? Possibly shades of the two parallel worlds in ToS, possibly not.
- Now I KNOW I'm WAY off on this one, but it's just fun to mention with all the other coincidences going on - the way only "destined people" can actually SEE the star/planet/moon/whatever in MH TV just kind of reminds me of how only cursed and "destined" people could hear the voice of Nebilim from the weapons in the Devil's Arms sideplot in ToS (i.e. Presea and Abicion)
- If my suspicions that Nagi is Remiel are correct, then Nagi is indeed a lying little bastard deliberately leading the girls mindlessly to their deaths :D C'mon, the brat's a dead-ringer for Mr. "I'll just get the Chosen nice and strong by throwing random tests and trials at her, then DESTROY HER MORTALITY WHEN I HAVE NO MORE USE FOR HER, MWAHAHA"
- The predictable, the obligatory, the almost mandatory: Childs = Seirei. Sadly, Shihna's own Korin takes Hurry's place. The ironic is though, MHTV's scene has a "true" Child getting pathetically slaughtered by an unidentified synthetic lifeform, with ToS has a synthetic Seirei getting pathetically slaughtered by a true Seirei

Naw, maybe it's just me.

keikkaishi
2006-05-27, 21:36
I know it was discussed before, but I can't find the thread anymore. What/ who are the First District and Searrs? What's their history and relation with each other? Also, which side is Nagi on?
Thanks

The Bloodlust Kid
2006-05-30, 01:53
To me, the First District seems to be an orginization to ensure that the HiME festival goes according to plan and that no interruptions occur. Searrs appeared to be the main rival with the same goal.

But what you all don't know about Searrs is that they are the precursor to Vector Industries of Xenosaga. You see, Miyu is the protoype of Kos-Mos while Shion is the far distant cousin of Alyssa Searrs.
The Orphans are in fact the Gnosis. Nagi reincarnates into Albedo and continues his fetishes.

Solace
2006-05-30, 03:01
Hime doesn't really go into backstory too much. Leaves alot open for future stories, and guesswork too! So with that in mind, I'm gonna toss my guesses out there.

First District is the organization that tries to make sure the carnival goes as planned. Not really sure why, with Nagi around. Pretty obvious there is some tension between them and Searrs. According to notes at the end of static subs ep 26, they suggest this:

"Reito is probably referenced as Izanagi no Mikoto, Husband of Izanami. This would couple Reito, or rather Lord Kokoyou, with Mashiro and correspond with how Izanami and Izanagi are the first coupled Gods. As mentioned before, Izanami and Izanagi were the creators of Japan, and the first married Gods. This could be why the outfits name is the First District."

Mashiro is referenced as the Queen of Hell. Since Lord Kokoyou brings new life every carnival, and Mashiro is the one who ended the previous world by winning her carnival, this would put them in the position of the two gods who created Japan. Since the story takes place in Japan, it all does seem to fit together with what we know of how the Carnival works.

As for Searrs? My guess is that Searrs came about during one of the previous carnivals, when someone saw the power of the Hime and wanted to control that power for thier own version of the world. There is always someone who disagrees with the direction the world takes, and they decide to take matters into thier own hands and try to change it to fit thier idea of the future better. Searrs would certainly fall under that catagory with thier ideal of bringing about a Golden Millenium.

Golden Millenium is a reference to Golden Age, or Milleniumism, which has differences across mythology, beliefs, and cultures, but generally is regarded as a period of time which begins in destruction and rebirths an age where man lives in a utopian state, peaceful and prosperous. The mostly likely version that Searrs is following is this one:

"The term Golden age stems from Greek mythology and Roman poets. It refers to a time in the beginnings of humanity which was perceived as an ideal state, or utopia, when mankind was pure and immortal. In literary works, the Golden Age usually ends with a devastating event, which brings about the Fall of Man (see Ages of Man). An analogous idea can be found in the religious and philosophical traditions of the Far East. Similar beliefs, which are in most aspects comparable to that in the Golden Age existed also in the Middle East. Some Utopianist beliefs, both political and religious, hold that the Golden Age will return."

Quote is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age.

Well I'm sure others have different takes on it, but those are my thoughts for the moment. :D