My HiME/Otome Q&A Thread

[Catgirls]

Originally posted by NoSanninWa

This thread is for those with questions about the My Otome anime or manga. Please keep discussion about episodes in the relevant threads. And please don't ask things like asking who is stronger or more capable of winning a fight, only ask questions that can actually be answered as facts from the anime or manga.

This thread is hopefully for My Otome only. There is already a thread to help answer your questions about the ending of My Hime and we don't want to confuse things between the two series by talking about both of them here. You can ask your questions about the ending of Mai Hime in: Confused? What was the Hime star all about?

To start things off, here are a couple of questions that everyone should know the answers to.

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Question: What is the connection between the My Otome manga and anime?

Answer: Very little. While the My Otome anime is inspired by the manga and uses the same character designs, there are already differences cropping up in episode 1. Please don't expect the anime to follow the manga at all, or else you're bound to get confused.

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Question: What is the connection between My Otome and My Hime.

Answer: Once again the answer is: very little. The Japanese have something called a "star system" where they reuse character designs as if the parts were being played by actors starring in these shows. They simply play similar characters in different shows or manga. In the US, this is best typified by the various Tenchi anime series which have no connection despite the fact that they all have the same characters. If there is another connection between the two animes, it has not yet been shown, so it would be purely speculative. If you want speculation, please go to Are My Hime and Otome related series? (credit: kj1980)

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Question: Why is there a Z in the title?

Answer: It isn't Z, it's 乙, which is a Jananese kanji character. If you spell out Otome, it's 乙女. They took out 女 so the title would be pronounced "Mai Oto-Hime", except that nobody pronounces it that way. (credit: lone_wolf)


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Question: When does My Otome air?

Answer: According to the TV listings, it airs in Japan at 1:30am - 2am Friday morning. To find out when this is, in your time zone, you can use this Time Zone Coverter (http://www.timeanddate.com/. **Show time correction. Thanks to lone_wolf (http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?u=25231)

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Now, everyone else can ask their own questions. Please try to read some of this thread before asking so that we can cut down on the repetition.

[Catgirls]

Repost of recovered FAQ content.
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sinistral
2005-10-13, 08:00
Let me start off with a question.

'Hime' is known as 'Princess', so what does 'Otome' stands for? My-What?

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MartAnimE
2005-10-13, 08:31
Let me start off with a question.

'Hime' is known as 'Princess', so what does 'Otome' stands for? My-What?

"Otome" stands for "Maiden", I believe.

I too have a question, regarding the anime only, Arika is an entirely new character (having only appeared on My-HiME's last episode), is Nina an entirely new character aswell, or has she appered somewhere on My-HiME and I've missed it?
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Sageblink
2005-10-13, 09:00
"Otome" stands for "Maiden", I believe.

I too have a question, regarding the anime only, Arika is an entirely new character (having only appeared on My-HiME's last episode), is Nina an entirely new character aswell, or has she appered somewhere on My-HiME and I've missed it?

Nina was student at Fukaa, in class with Mai. She was sitting just in front of Tate.

Erstin ans Tomoe, respectivly number 3 & 2 of the coral Otome, are new characters.

It's not confirmed yet, but the red head girl with glasses (can't remember her name right now) in the coral class may be the alternative Midori (but in my opinion, she's also a new chara...)
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paTKany
2005-10-13, 09:05
Nina was student at Fukaa, in class with Mai. She was sitting just in front of Tate.

Actually she's a Nina look-a-like. She is a chinese girl, her name is 春妹 (Chun Mei).
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Rei_Ikari
2005-10-13, 12:57
You'll see Arika in the very last scene....right b4 they end off....she'll run in from the left backgrounf, stop and stare at us for a while b4 running off.......

Oh yes.... does anyone know which day is Mai Otome aired?

Edit by moderator: Unfortunately this question touched off 6 replies due to some confusion regarding how to answer the question. Since this will probably be a popular question, I deleted the whole conversation and summarized it in the first post. Thanks to lone_wolf for providing the basic information.

Answer: According to the TV listings, it airs in Japan at 2530 Thursday night which is also known as 1:30am Friday morning. To find out when this is, in your time zone, you can use this Time Zone Coverter (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html).
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NoSanninWa
2005-10-14, 02:21
Let me start off with a question.

'Hime' is known as 'Princess', so what does 'Otome' stands for? My-What?
"Otome" stands for "Maiden", I believe.

Otome is also short for Otohime. Otohime is the daughter of Ryuujin, the Dragon King, in Japanese folklore. And it also means youngest princess.

And nobody has a clue yet which of these meanings is relevant. :heh:
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Chuong
2005-10-14, 20:36
Ok, I have a question, Dose it mean that every times otome need their robe, they need their master to confirm it, its will be really bad because just you imagine their a monster and they need to defeat it, they need to also bring their master there aswell.???
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lone_wolf
2005-10-14, 20:46
Ok, I have a question, Dose it mean that every times otome need their rode, they need their master to confirm it, its will be really bad because just you imagine their a monster and they need to defeat it, they need to also bring their master there aswell.???

It hasn't been confirmed yet so we'll just have to watch and find out....we're only on episode 2 :heh:

--Lone Wolf 一匹狼
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Takemi_Ikazuchi
2005-10-14, 21:44
the likeness of the kanji to a Z is probably meant as a zeta gundam parody (also a sequel and also by sunrise)

http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/uc/zeta/images/splash.jpg

http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/maiotome/
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paTKany
2005-10-19, 02:48
pearl Nr. 1. - Akane
pearl Nr. 2. - Chie
pearl Nr. 3. - Shiho
pearl Nr. 4. - Nao

coral Nr. 1. - Nina
coral Nr. 2. - Tomoe
coral Nr. 17. - Erstin
coral Nr. 51. - Arika
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Sky~hog
2005-10-19, 19:31
Hey guys, having gone to re watch the Mai HiME series before embarking onto Mai Otome ive found a big problem. when i transferd the series to DVD i lost the order of the eppisoeds. ive tryed to re-order them from the start a finnish of each epp, and failed missribuly!

its a slim hope, but is any one willing to write me a short discription of the start of each eppisode to help me re order!

it would be much appriciated!

thanks
sky~hog
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Radiosity
2005-10-19, 20:10
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4155&page=25

Just check out the ep titles and match them up like that.
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_Reiko_
2005-10-24, 00:55
I have a question ... whos the creator of Mai Hime/Mai Otome?? just wandering XD
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TBox
2005-10-24, 01:23
Mai Hime was originally conceived by "Hajime Yatate", which is a pseduonym for "Random Sunrise Employee Who Didn't Read the Fine Print on the Intellectual Copyright/Nondisclosure Agreement."

No, really.

Mai Otome should be the same, but I am already in position to be corrected.

The Character Designer is Hisayuki Hirokazu, and lone wolf will be along any second to tell you his website is www.dendoh.com (http://www.dendoh.com)

Since character design is such a huge part of "creation," I suspect what happened is the Marketing Wonks at sunrise held a meeting, said, "What's the roach motel of otakudom?" Eventually someone answered "Hawt chix utterly dependent on fanboys for giant mecha to fight with" It got refined, then they commissioned Hisayuki to do the dirty work. IOW, Mai Hime appears to have been designed by committee to be marketing gold. And it seemed to have worked.

But I speculate.
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kj1980
2005-10-24, 02:53
Mai Hime was originally conceived by "Hajime Yatate", which is a pseduonym for "Random Sunrise Employee Who Didn't Read the Fine Print on the Intellectual Copyright/Nondisclosure Agreement."

No, really.

Mai Otome should be the same, but I am already in position to be corrected.

Many myths surrounding Yatate Hajime exists, but let's keep it simple. Yatate Hajime is a collective pen name used by Sunrise's production staff board for copyrights purposes.

In a way, it's somewhat similar to the usage of "Alan Smithee" in Hollywood movies (once again, bad example provided by me).

Oh, and Kuribayashi Minami (singer of the OP, seiyuu of Suzumiya Haruka in "Kimi ga Nozomu Eien") happens to play a character as Erstin Ho (she will eventually be the roommate of Nina and Arika).
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NoSanninWa
2005-10-24, 04:34
I certainly hope that Yatate Hajime is not similar to Alan Smithee.

Alan Smithee is a name used by directors that feel their movie was wrested from their creative control and no longer want anyone to know that they were associated with the movie. Note that according to DGA (Director's Guild of America) rules the name can only be used if they can show that the producers or other involved people stole control of the prodution from the director so that it no longer realizes his vision. If the movie stunk merely because of bad directing, the DGA will not allow them to use the pseudonym.
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kj1980
2005-10-24, 19:42
Hoorah, NSW! You are the first person that I know who knows what Alan Smithee means!

Yes, it's highly different from Yatate Hajime's usage. I was making the bad allusion that both are commonly used pseudonyms to denote something in visual production.

Added trivia: Toei was the first company that started using a pseudonym for their staff - they have "Yatsude Saburou" for their series.
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Kallewoof
2005-10-24, 21:08
Natsuki, Kuga, Kruger, alter-ego, huhm?

Either I'm deaf, an idiot, or I just slept through the 3 Otome-episodes, but I'm definitely missing something there. I keep seeing references that seem to indicate somewhere that the 3 are (or aren't!) the same.
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Kieli
2005-10-24, 21:16
Natsuki, Kuga, Kruger, alter-ego, huhm?

Either I'm deaf, an idiot, or I just slept through the 3 Otome-episodes, but I'm definitely missing something there. I keep seeing references that seem to indicate somewhere that the 3 are (or aren't!) the same.
You're probably seeing people making mistakes.

In Mai HiME, it was Kuga Natsuki. In Mai Otome, it's Kruger Natsuki. You're most probably seeing truncations when others are referring to Natsuki in either form. I can see where it could be confusing.
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TBox
2005-10-24, 21:53
Natsuki, Kuga, Kruger, alter-ego, huhm?

Either I'm deaf, an idiot, or I just slept through the 3 Otome-episodes, but I'm definitely missing something there. I keep seeing references that seem to indicate somewhere that the 3 are (or aren't!) the same.

I think it depends on your definition of "same," which is turning out to be quite the weasel word. It can range, by context, anywhere from "clone" to "of a kind." IE, from "The President and the Commander in Chief are the same person" to "Those two birds are the same: they're both bluejays."
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paTKany
2005-10-27, 07:06
Mai-Otome official site FAQ (http://www.my-zhime.net/outline/keyword.html)
Did i read well? Only the half of the corals can be pearls?
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Sageblink
2005-10-27, 11:02
Mai-Otome official site FAQ (http://www.my-zhime.net/outline/keyword.html)
Did i read well? Only the half of the corals can be pearls?

Yes, you did well. 50 Coral, 25 Pearl. That's why there is a classement. (I want to see the Pearl outfit. >_< )

I just understand the hierachy of the Otome student, for their outfit i mean (i said outfit, not Robe...). Not very interesting, but if someone is also wondering...

For the coral, in their costume... hum, on their socks, the got lines of color, as well as the rest of the uniform.

1st coral: green lines (Nina)
2nd coral : purple lines (Tomoe)

1st pearl : white costume with red lines (Akane)
2nd pearl : long black socks (Chie)

All the other Coral got blue lines. The Pearl got blue lines on socks and yellow on the main outfit.

I was wondering since the beginning because of Arika, who got pink lines.
Since there is only 50 student in first years, and as she's the 51th, they need to make a difference between them (and she's one of the main character, also... T_T)

I understand also why Arika is at the 51th place of the classement. Cause she's new. (instead of just being a crap in the manga. -_-')
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n1dh0g
2005-10-28, 10:56
I'm not sure if this question has been asked before.
Are there other meisters other than the 5 pillars and do all of them haf special coloured gems like Shizuru which has the amethyst.
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Sageblink
2005-10-28, 11:44
I'm not sure if this question has been asked before.
Are there other meisters other than the 5 pillars and do all of them haf special coloured gems like Shizuru which has the amethyst.

AS far as I understand, when you get graduate, you receive your own jewel. SO yeah, there are several other Meinsters.
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n1dh0g
2005-10-28, 23:46
Thanks Sageblink.

On another note, was it stated that Fia has the Onyx in the anime?? If it was, when was it stated???
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Morisato
2005-10-29, 18:20
Did they change Reito into a girl?
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Thanatos-X86A
2005-10-29, 18:57
No they didn't. They turned him into a cyborg like thingy. The girl you mistook for Reito is Chie. Just add glasses and a handphone then you'll know it's her ;)
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Takemi_Ikazuchi
2005-10-29, 19:39
Mai-Otome official site FAQ (http://www.my-zhime.net/outline/keyword.html)
Did i read well? Only the half of the corals can be pearls?

Good find, and you are correct. Only half will be promoted.

Otome...

Serious Business.. :)

Edit: And oh, it confirms that all Meister Otomes are titled after jewels
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Morisato
2005-10-29, 20:00
So in the MANGA, Mashiro is a guy and in the ANIME, Mashiro is still a girl?
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Thanatos-X86A
2005-10-29, 20:23
Precisely.

Well here's an interesting fact for breast size in Mai-Otome:
http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/image/otome/Mobreast.jpg
Surprised that Nina's is on the lvl of Mashiro's =_="
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omegastar
2005-11-04, 22:17
Even more interesting, why is Shiho left out from the chart? considering she was the most jealous of the other girls, especially Erstin :heh:
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Sageblink
2005-11-16, 06:58
Thanks Sageblink.

On another note, was it stated that Fia has the Onyx in the anime?? If it was, when was it stated???

Actually, i didn't see that too. I think i've read somewhere on the forum that Fia was the Otome of the old -3 points on my head-man. But the onyx part is unknow to me
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shouki
2005-11-16, 08:39
http://www.my-zhime.net/outline/keyword.html

This has gotten some new entries since I last looked...

One is about "惑星エアル" - Planet Earl, where the story is set. (The "earl" bit is a guess).

Basically, in the future humanity goes through a collonisation phase and this planet is among the inhabitable ones found. However, only a small amount of the surface area is inhabitable - about the size of Europe. The political situation is somewhat similar to middle ages Europe too. Anyway, technology is somewhat going backwards these days, so there is a mix of old super-technology and more recent but less advanced technology.
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shouki
2005-11-16, 09:19
Another new entry is about the Kingdom of Windbloom, ruler Mashiro. Doesn't seem to be especially unusual except the first school(s) on Planet Earl was setup there. Though there's modern technology around, on a social/political level it is more like country in Europe in the middle ages (monarchy etc).

Garderobe is actually not part of Windbloom - it is part of the "ビューネ自治区" - the "Buhne autonomous region", basically a small country. ("Buhne" is a guess). Natsuki is the "first lady" of it, as well as school head.


The "審議会" (inquiry commission) that we see in eps 2-3 that Natsuki heads helps regulate the students - enrollment, reporting, promotion, graduation etc. Has a representative from each nation and they normally meet at fixed intervals. (Also seems to help out the political situation)
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paTKany
2005-11-16, 10:12
Actually, i didn't see that too. I think i've read somewhere on the forum that Fia was the Otome of the old -3 points on my head-man. But the onyx part is unknow to me

During episode 3 when she entered with her master (Emperor Argos) into the ceremonial hall, the usher called her "Kenrei no Shimamenou Fia Gros-sama".
shimamenou=onyx
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Sageblink
2005-11-16, 10:52
During episode 3 when she entered with her master (Emperor Argos) into the ceremonial hall, the usher called her "Kenrei no Shimamenou Fia Gros-sama".
shimamenou=onyx

Thanks paTKany ;)

GEM question :
How could a Gem know that it's a royalty who kiss "her" and not a modest person?
Mashiro has been ... "introduce" has the queen. But if she's not the real one, how could the Gem get activated?
Laibeus Lord
2005-11-19, 20:56
Thanks paTKany ;)

GEM question :
How could a Gem know that it's a royalty who kiss "her" and not a modest person?
Mashiro has been ... "introduce" has the queen. But if she's not the real one, how could the Gem get activated?

after watching ep7.. my theory
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First off, the story can be based from Mai HiME but was twist here and there so as not to make it redundant.


"The King's Otome was retreating during the attack." Which was referring to the "Blue Jewel of Heaven" who lost her Otome abilities.
We all know that the only way to lose the ability is if you get married and well have intercourse. The Blue Jewel of Heaven lost her ability, put the two jewels (the Otome Jewel and the Royal Jewel [both blue]) into a pendant and wore it to the "Real Princess".

So more likely Mashiro isn't the real princess at all but it's Arika. I am thinking that the Wife of the King died and gave them no children and the King and his Otome fell in-love and the Blue Jewel of Heaven gave birth to Arika.

Remember the other picture of the King with his Otome in full armour in episode 7?

Now that's Theory #1.
Theory #2 would be that the Blue Jewel got married with someone and gave birth to Arika.
The Queen, the wife of the Blue Jewel's master, also gave birth which "might" be Mashiro.
Now, I don't know why the Blue Jewel will save her child before the King's but I guess that's a motherly instict.


Oh btw, for sure, Arika's mother is the Blue Jewel of Heaven coz during episode 1, while the baby's under the bridge, the Blue Jewel was still able to use at least a bit of the Jewels' power (the Otome Jewel and the Master's Jewel) which are in the pendant the baby's wearing. Assuming the baby in episode 1 is Arika. But I think she is that baby coz in episode 7 she was able to remove the two jewels. The Otome Jewel fits in her earring while the Master's Jewel fits in the Queen's Ring.

Another thing, tho not related....

Additionally there's an organ (called Harmonium) in the basement which houses some sort of great power. They have to combine the [1] "Singer's melody", [2] "the organ's player", [3] "the protector's charm", to use the power of the Harmonium.

The Singer's melody would me Mashiro. The Protector's Charm would be Arika. The Organ's player, we still have to know. SPecial note here, there are 3 seats in the organ so there must be 3 players. I don't remember if there's somethign similar in this matter with Mai HiME or if this is unique to Oto-HiME.

Those are my assumptions so far, since the latest is ep7.
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Sageblink
2005-11-19, 22:18
"The King's Otome was retreating during the attack." Which was referring to the "Blue Jewel of Heaven" who lost her Otome abilities.
We all know that the only way to lose the ability is if you get married and well have intercourse. The Blue Jewel of Heaven lost her ability, put the two jewels (the Otome Jewel and the Royal Jewel ) into a pendant and wore it to the "Real Princess".

So more likely Mashiro isn't the real princess at all but it's Arika. I am thinking that the Wife of the King died and gave them no children and the King and his Otome fell in-love and the Blue Jewel of Heaven gave birth to Arika.

Remember the other picture of the King with his Otome in full armour in episode 7?

Now that's Theory #1.
Theory #2 would be that the Blue Jewel got married with someone and gave birth to Arika.
The Queen, the wife of the Blue Jewel's master, also gave birth which "might" be Mashiro.
Now, I don't know why the Blue Jewel will save her child before the King's but I guess that's a motherly instict.


Oh btw, for sure, Arika's mother is the Blue Jewel of Heaven coz during episode 1, while the baby's under the bridge, the Blue Jewel was still able to use at least a bit of the Jewels' power (the Otome Jewel and the Master's Jewel) which are in the pendant the baby's wearing. Assuming the baby in episode 1 is Arika. But I think she is that baby coz in episode 7 she was able to remove the two jewels. The Otome Jewel fits in her earring while the Master's Jewel fits in the Queen's Ring.


Interesting. But don't forget that we don't know who are Nina's real parents. Sunrise based is serie on that. An orphan-girl, a "maybe" fake princess ans a girl with no past. The three could be the princess though.

But, isn't episode 7 affirming that Mashiro was choose to replace the princess?
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[b]dgb001
2005-11-20, 23:19
is it me or is the manga of MO very different then the TV version? I was reading up to the 14th issue of the manga and it's nothing like the TV I know:uhoh: why's that?
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NoSanninWa
2005-11-20, 23:31
is it me or is the manga of MO very different then the TV version? I was reading up to the 14th issue of the manga and it's nothing like the TV I know:uhoh: why's that?

If you had read the first post of the FAQ thread, you'd have seen that the first question in the first post was this:

Question: What is the connection between the My Otome manga and anime?

Answer: Very little. While the My Otome anime is inspired by the manga and uses the same character designs, there are already differences cropping up in episode 1. Please don't expect the anime to follow the manga at all, or else you're bound to get confused.
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RiderFaiz
2005-11-21, 03:35
Dunno if this is the right place to ask but where could I get the Mai Otome manga from? I have been trying to look around for it without success. Thanks in advance.
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lone_wolf
2005-11-21, 04:56
is it me or is the manga of MO very different then the TV version? I was reading up to the 14th issue of the manga and it's nothing like the TV I know:uhoh: why's that?

It was intentionally done that way. The Mai Hime manga also took a different path from the anime version.

--Lone Wolf
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kismis
2005-11-27, 00:14
can someone clear this up.. a meistar is an otome who's duty is to protect royalty from different countries, right? and is shizuru a meistar? is she protecting natsumi? but natsumi isnt royalty...right?

also, what is a pillar? is it the same thing as a meistar?

sorry for being so dense >.<
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lone_wolf
2005-11-27, 01:37
can someone clear this up.. a meistar is an otome who's duty is to protect royalty from different countries, right? and is shizuru a meistar? is she protecting natsumi? but natsumi isnt royalty...right?

also, what is a pillar? is it the same thing as a meistar?

Natsuki is *not* Shizuru's Master so Shizuru is not bound to Natsuki as a Meister. She however, is aiding Natsuki out of her own freewill as her profile has explained in many magazine scans.

Shizuru and Natsuki are confirmed Pillars There are a total of 5 Pillars and these are considered the highest level Otome. They don't have Masters yet they have pledged themselves to a higher Deity....which is mostly likely Fumi since it's her initials that show up on Shizuru's Gem when she's activating her Robe.

Hope that helps.:)

--Lone Wolf
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n1dh0g
2005-11-27, 04:49
Are Yukariko and the other teachers in Garderobe Meisters???
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lone_wolf
2005-11-27, 05:03
Are Yukariko and the other teachers in Garderobe Meisters???

Well Yukariko definitely is one, otherwise she wouldn't be able to activate the robe that she wears.

Garderobe graduates have been speculated to teach at the school.


--Lone Wolf
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BlackCatXIII
2005-11-27, 07:58
Since i saw episode 8 i'v been wandering ......how many maister otome can a singel ruler have?.....seeing that in Miss Maria's flash back we see at least 8 on one side and 7 on the other and only 2 distinct flags......also since the white haired otome with the buterfly shaped axe is probebly Miss Maria ...does this mean that she has a master (she defently has a robe .... the maister jewl can be seen clearly when she talks with Arika).............Sory for geting caried away .... and making such a long question
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Matrim
2005-11-27, 10:04
Since i saw episode 8 i'v been wandering ......how many maister otome can a singel ruler have?.....seeing that in Miss Maria's flash back we see at least 8 on one side and 7 on the other and only 2 distinct flags......also since the white haired otome with the buterfly shaped axe is probebly Miss Maria ...does this mean that she has a master (she defently has a robe .... the maister jewl can be seen clearly when she talks with Arika).............Sory for geting caried away .... and making such a long question

Maria mentioned that at the time the Otome academy allowed too many students to go fight, without having the necessary skills and being far from the level of the real Meisters. So I guess the number of Otomes a single ruler commands is rather low in peace time but if a war breaks out every student from the countries involved, Meister or not is summoned to help.
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Thanatos-X86A
2005-11-27, 10:50
My friend came up with a theory that not only the rulers would be able to have an otome. In a Kingdom there are nobles and high ranking military officers. Why don't they have their own otome during times of war?
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Biswa
2005-11-27, 21:59
Ehh, yes, this is a basic, stupid, and biased question in many ways, but hopefully it is simple. Is it true that there Mai is not in this series (as of yet)? I think it is rather strange to have the name "Mai" in the show without Mai in it at all.
i apologize before hand.
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lone_wolf
2005-11-27, 22:22
Ehh, yes, this is a basic, stupid, and biased question in many ways, but hopefully it is simple. Is it true that there Mai is not in this series (as of yet)? I think it is rather strange to have the name "Mai" in the show without Mai in it at all.
i apologize before hand.

Do a search on this forum and you'll encounter threads that confirm Mai will be in the series. Once again, if you need proof, please look at the character designer's homepage at www.dendoh.com.

If you look at his BBS in the OCtober section, you'll find his confirmation of Mai being in the series.


--Lone Wolf
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kur0gan3
2005-11-27, 23:48
My friend came up with a theory that not only the rulers would be able to have an otome. In a Kingdom there are nobles and high ranking military officers. Why don't they have their own otome during times of war?

A little addition here, well, I was the one who came out with the theory :) .

We've learned that not all the Corals can become Pearls who won't all become Meisters, so what happens to the failed ones?

I speculate that even if they don't succeed into graduating as Meisters, the failed Otomes still are too valuable to dispose off and most likely they'll enter service for the lower ranking nobles and other semi-VIP's for each country.

Training an Otome is probably a big investment, with all the lessons in Garderobe and implanting nanomachines, so I don't think any rulers would want to waste them.

A good example of this would ancient Chinese emperor's concubine system. They pick the eligible girls from each district around the country and send them to the capital for a weeding out process. The best ones would serve the emperor, and the ones not chosen are still assigned to the government officials.
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n1dh0g
2005-11-29, 23:06
I was wondering when the Otomes graduate as Meisters can they choose which master they want to protect or are they assigned to their masters?
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shouki
2005-11-30, 08:11
I was wondering when the Otomes graduate as Meisters can they choose which master they want to protect or are they assigned to their masters?

Based on what Sergay says in ep 7, it's the Otome's choice.

Most Otome would chose to serve someone from their home country, it seems.
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n1dh0g
2005-12-01, 01:11
Thanks Shouki.

I have another question. What happens to the Otome's gem when they are defeated? Are those gems buried together with the Otomes or are they being passed on to other Otomes like how Arika has Rena's gem???
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Diodati
2005-12-01, 11:24
Well Rena was able to pass on her GEM on her own accord so she's a special case.
My idea is that if you die wearing it, then either the GEM disintegrates/shatters (like we saw happen to the Slave and 'their jewel' in ep 7), or it simply stays with the Otome into death. But also, are defeated Otomes buried or do they go green sparklies too....
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Andy00
2005-12-01, 11:42
Since the crystal pillar graves in the basement of the Forbidden Library/Fumi's Grave don't have any bodies, I'm guessing they vanish into sparklies.
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Pleroma
2005-12-01, 13:16
The bodies could well be below the pillars or they could just be there as monuments.
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n1dh0g
2005-12-06, 05:51
Do the Otomes get the choice to become pillars or are pillars chosen???

Who are Yukariko and the other instructor's master? Is it the school?

Another question, can Pearls activate their robes themselves or do they also need permission to activate it?
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ArchDragon
2005-12-07, 19:35

Do the Otomes get the choice to become pillars or are pillars chosen???

Most likely chosen by the current headmaster, since Natsuki said something that implied that she "made Shizuru return" to Galderobe as one of the pillars.

Who are Yukariko and the other instructor's master? Is it the school?

Most likely Fumi Himeno, just like Shizuru.

Another question, can Pearls activate their robes themselves or do they also need permission to activate it?

No, otherwise Shiho could've freed herself from that tentacle monster's grasb.
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Kieli
2005-12-07, 19:41

No, otherwise Shiho could've freed herself from that tentacle monster's grasb.

I'm not entirely sure that's true since Nao was able to activate her Robe somehow in order to free ShihoHime. I'm not sure a teacher would've known that quickly about her predicament so it seems apparent that the Pearls are able to activate their robes without Meister intervention.
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lone_wolf
2005-12-07, 20:05

No, otherwise Shiho could've freed herself from that tentacle monster's grasb.

Actually, they haven't shown how any of the Pearls (especially the Trias) activate theiry robes so that can't be confirmed at this point.

So far the only piece of information we know (regarding robe activation) from the episodes that have aired is that:

1. Shizuru is able to activate her robe on her own.
2. Nina and Arika had their robes activated by either nobility or anyone in high level of authority (Like Natsuki for example).

Haruka's status is unknown still since we were thrown for a loop with that particular Bandai ad, though one poster on another forum did provide an image that Haruka and Yukino sported the same GEM. Her situation is rather confusing and I hope that issue is addressed within the next few episodes.:heh:

Then there's Arika who hasn't nullified her contract with Mashiro. Assuming the gems are still in her custody, does she still need the kiss of her master to activate her Meister robe?

Anyway, these questions have been asked many times....but we won't get a confirmed answer until it actually appears in an episode.:heh:


--Lone Wolf
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Diodati
2005-12-07, 20:15
Hmm everything to do with robes is giving me a headache - I hope Sunrise aren't going to make this too convoluted.

Most likely chosen by the current headmaster, since Natsuki said something that implied that she "made Shizuru return" to Galderobe as one of the pillars.
Hmmm I never got the impression Natsuki 'made' Shizuru: Natsuki talks about not finding 'her' from 14 years ago (I presume the princess) and says ''that's why I had you return'' - taken in the scene; Natsuki is pacing around clearly agitated, and Shizuru is right-as-rain with her tea. It comes across as 'sorry Shiz, I know you were off somewhere, I requested you back because I really need you to help me out with Schwarz' etc. That Natsuki justifies her reasoning implies she has no authority over Shizuru personally - even Shizuru's response is one of agreeing with Natsuki's decision: ''well it is our job as the Pillars to protect Garderobe''

Most admin aspects of Garderobe is going to be down to Natsuki, but I sincerely doubt she was the one to choose who the Pillars are. It's possible Shizuru may have become one before Natsuki, being that she's older. But that too is speculation - overall, everything to do with the Pillars is still pretty unknown.
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lone_wolf
2005-12-07, 20:25
Hmm everything to do with robes is giving me a headache - I hope Sunrise aren't going to make this too convoluted.

Hmmm I never got the impression Natsuki 'made' Shizuru: Natsuki talks about not finding 'her' from 14 years ago (I presume the princess) and says ''that's why I had you return'' - taken in the scene; Natsuki is pacing around clearly agitated, and Shizuru is right-as-rain with her tea. It comes across as 'sorry Shiz, I know you were off somewhere,and I requested you back because I really need you to help me out with Schwarz' etc. That Natsuki justifies her reasoning implies she has no authority of Shizuru personally - even Shizuru's response is one of comforting Natsuki's decision: ''well it is our job as the Pillars to protect Garderobe''

Most admin aspects of Garderobe is going to be down to Natsuki, but I sincerely doubt she was the one to choose who the Pillars are. It's possible Shizuru may have become one before Natsuki, being that she's older. But that too is speculation - overall, everything to do with the Pillars is still pretty unknown.

Yes! That's exactly how I saw it too! Shizuru's quote that you mentioned implies that she's been at Garderobe all this time...I mean, yeah, she could have been doing a small errand or something, regardless she was still part of the faculty for quite some time now.

It never mentioned that she was (how some other's speculated) off in some far away land and was asked to come back to the campus to assist. And as far as Shizuru being made Pillar, isn't or wasn't she technically Natsuki's sempai? Doesn't this imply that she reached her status before Natsuki?


--Lone Wolf
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ArchDragon
2005-12-07, 20:35
I'm not entirely sure that's true since Nao was able to activate her Robe somehow in order to free ShihoHime. I'm not sure a teacher would've known that quickly about her predicament so it seems apparent that the Pearls are able to activate their robes without Meister intervention.
Well, Nina told Irina to notify a teacher about the situation.
It's possible that said teacher (Miss Maria) authorized Nao to activate her robe, and to went ahead of her.

As for Meisters, I'm sure they can activate their robe on their own once they made a contract.
Otherwise they can't be sent abroad to fight a war.
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Kieli
2005-12-07, 20:48
As for Meisters, I'm sure they can activate their robe on their own once they made a contract.
Otherwise they can't be sent abroad to fight a war.

Apparently they don't necessarily need to make a contract for that to happen, unless you count the status of some Meisters as Pillars with a "contract" to their Shinso. I would think that, once you've attained Meister status, you could still activate your robe even without having made a contract. But since those details have not quite been revealed yet in the show, it's all speculation.
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Diodati
2005-12-07, 21:03
Shizuru's quote that you mentioned implies that she's been at Garderobe all this time...I mean, yeah, she could have been doing a small errand or something, regardless she was still part of the faculty for quite some time now.

Another piece of evidence that makes it OBVIOUS that Shizuru is a part of Garderobe in some sense, is the pupils response to her. Arika sees Shizuru on TV, and Nina speaks of her with relative familiarity. If Shizuru was a comparative stranger (or just famously known) then I doubt the pupils could have discussed her with the same sort of familiarity either. ''Well y'know Shizuru-oneesama can really fight'', ''We thought you knew Shizuru-oneesama'' etc. I now also judge Tomoe's ''look'' in ep.3 to be one of ''omg, she's come back - super yay''. (Bless :heh: )

If she was continually away, or from somewhere else, then I doubt Shizuru would be 'known'/discussed by name, let alone loved by the pupils at Garderobe.

That said, I don't know if all Pillars necessarily have to be around Garderobe all the time - if Haruka is indeed one, then she may come back when 'asked' - obviously - unless you're psychic you might need to be asked.

And as far as Shizuru being made Pillar, isn't or wasn't she technically Natsuki's sempai? Doesn't this imply that she reached her status before Natsuki?

I think she'd certainly have graduated before Natsuki....heee, Natsuki seemed thrilled being reminded of her darling sempai coming to her rescue (even though, technically, this is what she requests in ep.1) Interesting to wonder how/why Natsuki became Principal.

It's possible that said teacher (Miss Maria) authorized Nao to activate her robe, and to went ahead of her.
The timespan was so small though - it seemed constructed to suggest Nao herself 'knew' her little soldiers were in danger (heh) and flew in. I saw it as Nao being able to activate her robe herself, but perhaps that doesn't make overall sense....

I would think that, once you've attained Meister status, you could still activate your robe even without having made a contract. But since those details have not quite been revealed yet in the show, it's all speculation.
Crazy theory: maybe once you've attained meister status and if you don't have a master, then in general, you have Fumi as one...I know that ruins the ''Pillars only'' thing, but that way your life isn't contracted, but you still have the necessary 'master' relationship for the robe to work.

Wah I dunno, the show makes me want to weep blood.
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coefficientX
2005-12-08, 01:55
I'm not entirely sure that's true since Nao was able to activate her Robe somehow in order to free ShihoHime. I'm not sure a teacher would've known that quickly about her predicament so it seems apparent that the Pearls are able to activate their robes without Meister intervention.
Imagine Irina running down and shouting for sensei about the monster. Everyone could have heard her shouts. :p Anyway I'm thinking maybe Nao is coincidentally having performance class at that time and happened to hear Irina shouting. From episode 4 we know that Shiho & Nao ain't in the same class or else we would have saw her in the bathroom.

Crazy theory: maybe once you've attained meister status and if you don't have a master, then in general, you have Fumi as one...I know that ruins the ''Pillars only'' thing, but that way your life isn't contracted, but you still have the necessary 'master' relationship for the robe to work.Hmmm yeah perhaps. And that does not neccessary ruin the "Pillar only" thingy. It'll make sense if all otome serving Garderobe has their master as Fumi.

[Mich666]

Very useful FAQ at Wikipedia ~_^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai-Otome

[Gage]

There are some facts about Mai on that Wiki link I don't remember from the series...


During her days as a student, it is speculated she (Natsuki) and Mai were rivals.

She(Mai) appears to have been the top member of the Pearl class while she attended Garderobe, graduating with Natsuki. Her current whereabouts are unknown.


Did I totally miss something, or are people mixing up info from the Anime and Manga? Only thing I remember about Mai from Otome was a poster in the store where Arika's clothes were sold.

[lone_wolf]

There are some facts about Mai on that Wiki link I don't remember from the series...


During her days as a student, it is speculated she (Natsuki) and Mai were rivals.

She(Mai) appears to have been the top member of the Pearl class while she attended Garderobe, graduating with Natsuki. Her current whereabouts are unknown.


Did I totally miss something, or are people mixing up info from the Anime and Manga? Only thing I remember about Mai from Otome was a poster in the store where Arika's clothes were sold.


The information in Wikipedia is brought to readers by numerous people. Just about anyone can enter information on that site just like IMDB. Some of the stuff you see can be taken with a grain of salt.


--Lone Wolf

[Gage]

The information in Wikipedia is brought to readers by numerous people. Just about anyone can enter information on that site just like IMDB. Some of the stuff you see can be taken with a grain of salt.

Yeah, I know, but I was wondering if there was something I had totally missed (a spoiler from somewhere, previews from Anime magazines, ect..) because that is pretty specific information, and the rest of it seems so well thought out that anyone who wrote the rest of that wouldn't let something that is blatently wrong or unknowable stay there.

[lone_wolf]

Yeah, I know, but I was wondering if there was something I had totally missed (a spoiler from somewhere, previews from Anime magazines, ect..) because that is pretty specific information, and the rest of it seems so well thought out that anyone who wrote the rest of that wouldn't let something that is blatently wrong or unknowable stay there.


Well, as far as "Mai Otome", the "her" that she keeps referring is what people are speculating to be Mai.

She brings "her" up numerous times including in ep 9. Can't remember which episode but it was the episode where Natsuki and Shizuru along with Maria talk about Natsuki's Rival...we also learn in that episode that this person was her roommate as well.

It could very well be Mai but then again, it's like Wikipedia mentioned....*speculation*.


--Lone Wolf

[Gage]

Ahh! Now I know what you're talking about. I had really thought they were talking about Arika's mother there, but I can see how that could be Mai as well. Ok, that makes sense.

[PastPrime]

Ahh! Now I know what you're talking about. I had really thought they were talking about Arika's mother there, but I can see how that could be Mai as well. Ok, that makes sense.
Rena would have been at least as old as Shizuru and Natsuki are now when the "accident" happened 14 years ago, so it would not have been her.

[Redeem]

I have some doubts...

1- How many babies were!?

What I understood was that there were two babies, the daughter of the King and Queen, and the baby of the Sapphire of Azure Sky' Otome

2- Is Gakutenou a slave!? And if it is, Why is he summon different to the other slaves!?

[lone_wolf]

I have some doubts...

1- How many babies were!?

What I understood was that there were two babies, the daughter of the King and Queen, and the baby of the Sapphire of Azure Sky' Otome


There are three babies. Nina Mashiro and Arika all have the same birthday. It's speculated by everyone in Mai Otome that Mashiro may *not* be the true Princess.


--Lone Wolf

[Preston]

Ok, not sure if this is correct thread, but I didn't want to create one myself, so..

http://www.my-zhime.net/event

Top option in the toolbar to the left, and, uhh.. can anyone explain what exactly this is, and what is going on..?

[SpeedRcrX]

From what I understand, it's a trivia.
You can win CDs, Posters, PC fan kit (wallpaper, icons...) a box of the lastest cardass...

[Preston]

...PC fan kit (wallpaper, icons...)...

Sweet, now, if anyone was to get that, you would share right? ;)

[lone_wolf]

Sweet, now, if anyone was to get that, you would share right? ;)


Well the poll that's going on right now is the "choose your best partner" poll. Once you click the button to vote a seperate window will pop up and you'll select one character and the second selection is where you would choose your favorite oneesama to be partnered with the character of your choice.

Unlike the Mai Hime polls from last time, you can only vote once a day for the Otome polls. I was lucky enough to use all three servers at work to vote 3 times and than when I get back home I vote another 3 times using different WiFi networks....so basically if you want to vote more than once, just make sure to use a different IP address each time:heh:

So hurry up and vote since this poll will be expired on the 24th of this month. The winning pair will be announced on the 10th of January....and then on to the next poll.


--Lone Wolf

[Preston]

I've been voting in the poll for days now. Hmm, you cheater! Not.. that.. eh.. forget it.. the wonders of the IP Re-routing firewall.. now if only I could dig that baby up again..

[lone_wolf]

I've been voting in the poll for days now. Hmm, you cheater! Not.. that.. eh.. forget it.. the wonders of the IP Re-routing firewall.. now if only I could dig that baby up again..



Cheating? I suppose....

but nothing beats being able to vote 6 times a day. :heh: When you want something, you gotta work at it:heh: I also have an account with T-mobile WiFi so I could just go to Starbucks and vote as well.


--Lone Wolf

[MakotoFatora]

Jeeeeeez....and everyone complained when the Midori fans ganged up and started spamming on the votes for everyone's favorite 17-year-old in the previous HiME poll.... :p

time to go break out my script again, where'd I put that MidoriShallPwnYouAllWithJustice.pl again...hmm... :D

[lone_wolf]

Jeeeeeez....and everyone complained when the Midori fans ganged up and started spamming on the votes for everyone's favorite 17-year-old in the previous HiME poll.... :p

time to go break out my script again, where'd I put that MidoriShallPwnYouAllWithJustice.pl again...hmm... :D


Who's everyone?

Anyway, sometimes, you gotta be ruthless to get what you want in life, right?;)


--Lone Wolf

[SpeedRcrX]

Who's everyone?

Anyway, sometimes, you gotta be ruthless to get what you want in life, right?;)


--Lone Wolf

Damn right, Lone !!! :D
I manage around 350 PCs, when I get the chance (no often...) I make a vote on the PC I'm reparing ^^

[lone_wolf]

Damn right, Lone !!! :D
I manage around 350 PCs, when I get the chance (no often...) I make a vote on the PC I'm reparing ^^


Impressive!:D


--Lone Wolf

[Preston]

So, what does the poll use to determin whether you have already voted or not? Save your external IP? Place a cookie on your PC that tells it when you last voted? Because both of them are easy to remedy..

EDIT: I tried to decipher the latest event on the main site. My brain aches, but I think I got the general idea, correct me if I am wrong:

It is not so much a questionnaire, but an entry form. To fill in that form one must know the arnswer to the question, which can be pieced together by visiting the sister sites of Sunrise's site, and collecting the relevant information, namely: Biglobes site, Bandai Visual's site, Lantis's site and Animero mix's site. Once you have the arnswer you can fill in the form (exactly how to obtain the arnswer or what to look for, don't ask me, I am not literate in Japanese), and are given a chance to win. Nowhere can I see the statement that this is for Japanese citizens only, but I doubt they would post outside of Japan.

[Guido]

What's Harmonium?

[Preston]

What's Harmonium?

Episode 7, under the castle is that spectacular organ-like instrument that shatters glass, that is the harmonium unless I am very much mistaken. The one Arika pokes a key of and a large beam of light shoots into the sky. People think it will play a large role in the future plot, and I'm with them.

[Catgirls]

What's Harmonium?"The harmonium is also known as peti or baja. This instrument is not a native Indian instrument. It is a European instrument which was imported in the 19th century. It is a reed organ with hand pumped bellows. Although it is a relatively recent introduction, it has spread throughout the subcontinent. Today, it is used in virtually every musical genre except the south Indian classical." -- (Link (http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_music/harmonium.html))

--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonium

A note on terminology: In North America, the most common pedal-pumped free reed keyboard instrument is known as the American reed organ, parlor organ, pump organ, cabinet organ, cottage, organ, etc. and along with the earlier melodeon, is operated by a suction bellows. In North America, a reed organ with a pressure bellows is referred to as a harmonium. In much of Europe, the term "harmonium" is used to describe all pedal pumped keyboard free reed instruments, making no distinction whether it has a pressure or suction bellows.

The harmonium was invented in Europe in Paris in 1842 by Alexandre Debain, though there was concurrent development of similar instruments.

[Cats]

What are the Coral and Perl class otome staff weapon's called ?......by the way if i'm not mistaken the braces or whatever that all otome robes seem to have are called elements ....... correct me if i'm rong

[babuji]

element? where did you get the info from?

[ArchDragon]

What are the Coral and Perl class otome staff weapon's called ?......by the way if i'm not mistaken the braces or whatever that all otome robes seem to have are called elements ....... correct me if i'm rong

I suppose those staff lookalike weapons are their elements.
For Corals, they can only manipulate their lengths, just like what Nina did in her butou against Arika.
Pearls can change their shapes, like what Nao did against the tentacle monster.
And finally Meisters can materialize them into their favorite forms.

As for those bracelet lookalike things on their wrists and ankles, they have no official designation yet.

[Klashikari]

an OVA is neither a movie, nor a season you know...

OVA are in fact, either spin off or an extended end/episode (sort of aftermath)

MO OVA are 30 minutes episodes, with the plot following the end of MO serie.

[Cats]

How old is Natsuki Kruger ?

[babuji]

No indication for her age I think.

[ArchDragon]

How old is Natsuki Kruger ?

It hasn't been revealed yet in the anime or official website.

But, my guess would be mid 20's.

[Efreeta]

A quick recap of the countries from which Coral and Pearl Otomes are:

Corals:
Nina - Artai
Tomoe - Windbloom (oh my, just imagine her as Mashiro's Otome!:uhoh: )
Erstin - Annan
Irina - Earis
Lilie & Yayoi - Romulus
Miya - Remus

Pearls
Akane - Florins
Chie - Earis
Shiho - Carteya
Nao - Artai

Don't know if some countries' spelling is right.

And I'm still wondering which are the native countries of Shizuru and Natsuki...:confused:

[kari-no-sugata]

And I'm still wondering which are the native countries of Shizuru and Natsuki...:confused:

We don't seem to have an country with Shizuru's accent yet ;)

I wouldn't be surprised if Natsuki is from the country she rules - Vyune or however it's supposed to be spelt. It's a tiny little country which contains Garderobe. Since it's separate, that's why they can't normally intervene in Wind Bloom.

[davidY]

Is it possible that Arika is actually Sergey's real daughter. Can she be misinterpreting her emotions - not actually love. Maybe she feels like he is a father figure.

[Eclipze]

Thats not possible if we presume Arika is Rena's daughter...:eyebrow:

Also, Sergey was around Nina's age(When the flash-back occured in episode 2) which shows that he was too young to be neither Nina's nor Arikas father for that matter.

[LadyElixir]

Is Mikoto really a cat? Damnit, she's one of my favorite character!

:heh:

[babuji]

Is Mikoto really a cat? Damnit, she's one of my favorite character!

:heh:




Based on speculation, mikoto might not be a cat forever...even in the manga, she turned out to be a human but in the anime...it is hard to tell.

[babuji]

Is it possible that Arika is actually Sergey's real daughter. Can she be misinterpreting her emotions - not actually love. Maybe she feels like he is a father figure.



No, Arika is not Sergay's daughter.

In one of the episodes, sergay stated that he is only a student transfer to Windbloom. In another episode, he had a flashback that he saw Rena holding onto a baby who might be arika.

About the love, I can't say much but there is a high chance that Arika is having real feelings for sergay.

[ArchDragon]

No, Arika is not Sergay's daughter.

In one of the episodes, sergay stated that he is only a student transfer to Windbloom. In another episode, he had a flashback that he saw Rena holding onto a baby who might be arika.

About the love, I can't say much but there is a high chance that Arika is having real feelings for sergay.

He was indeed a transfer student, but he obviously transfered there BEFORE Rena gives birth to Arika.
Otherwise, he wouldn't have a chance to know her, since she seemed to stay inside the castle all the time after Arika's birth.
He even had to sneak around into the castle to catch a glimpse of Rena.

While Sergay's age at the time made it very unlikely for him to be Arika's father, I wouldn't write it off just yet.

[babuji]

He was indeed a transfer student, but he obviously transfered there BEFORE Rena gives birth to Arika.
Otherwise, he wouldn't have a chance to know her, since she seemed to stay inside the castle all the time after Arika's birth.
He even had to sneak around into the castle to catch a glimpse of Rena.

While Sergay's age at the time made it very unlikely for him to be Arika's father, I wouldn't write it off just yet.




at the time when sergay was there....Rena had already gave birth to Arika.

[Eclipze]

He was indeed a transfer student, but he obviously transfered there BEFORE Rena gives birth to Arika.
Otherwise, he wouldn't have a chance to know her, since she seemed to stay inside the castle all the time after Arika's birth.
He even had to sneak around into the castle to catch a glimpse of Rena.

While Sergay's age at the time made it very unlikely for him to be Arika's father, I wouldn't write it off just yet.
...you do realise that Sergey is about 14+ (estimate) years older than Arika/nina? That mean what....he had intercourse with Rena at the age of 1? -_-"

[lone_wolf]

...you do realise that Sergey is about 14+ (estimate) years older than Arika/nina? That mean what....he had intercourse with Rena at the age of 1? -_-"

I think you need to rethink your mathematical skills.:heh: Unless it's a typo..perhaps you meant 11?;) Sergay is currently 25 years of age.

--Lone Wolf

[ArchDragon]

at the time when sergay was there....Rena had already gave birth to Arika.

I'm very sure he came to know Rena BEFORE she gave birth to Arika.

There was absolutely NO reason for Rena to be strolling around and playing with little boys after she gave birth to Arika.

Note that the attack happened as the "princess" has just been born, so there's no time for them to even know each other if Sergay arrived after Arika's birth.

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...you do realise that Sergey is about 14+ (estimate) years older than Arika/nina? That mean what....he had intercourse with Rena at the age of 1? -_-"

Sergay's age at the time he met Rena is equal to the difference in age between him and Arika/Nina minus 1.

Which means if he's 15 years older than Arika, then he's currently 30 and was 14 when he met Rena.

Btw, I don't think Sergay is that old.

[PCDK]

Well since I have never seen a thread like this at the forum I felt like making one.

These are all the unanswered questions I could find that have been bugging my mind in Mai-HiME. I don’t know if there are any answers to them so please give an answer if you have one. You can also add more questions if you wish.

First of all who was Nagi, what was his intentions and what would he gain from what he did.

The Searrs Foundation tried to bring down the golden era but what is that.

Which door were the searrs looking for? (The one Nagi and Mashiro go though in the end?) Where do the door lead to then?

Each 300 year the HiME thing takes place and it end with only one being back to marry the Oblivion Lord so they can change the HiME star so I don’t crash into the earth and destroys everything. (Some kind of united power I guess) But what was the outcome if it had ended the way the Oblivion Lord wanted it to? And why is that?

There is a big clock in the library but what exactly did it do? It was gone when the Oblivion Lord was too? (We do also see some kind of HiME watch over the three old ladies in the first district headquarter.

How can Miyu see Alyssa and therefore use her special powers? That was a little weird and unexplained.:confused:

The first district weirdly had an headquarter which Mashiro and Fumi visit. Why is that? And didn’t Reito as the Oblivion Lord said that now he is in control?

Mai can apparently breath in space but how did she come back? (Not a very important question)
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Well I really hope they would make some kind of extra episode explaining this. I can see it just being Mashiro and Nagi walking and talking and a lot of flashbacks.

[Eclipze]

I think you need to rethink your mathematical skills.:heh: Unless it's a typo..perhaps you meant 11?;) Sergay is currently 25 years of age.

--Lone Wolf
Sorry, it was late and I was rushing a post before I went to bed.:heh:

Yes, I doubt a boy at age 10/11 would be able to "fertilize" Rena. that sounds so stupid, and would make Rena a Pedo.

[Nightengale]

Yes, I doubt a boy at age 10/11 would be able to "fertilize" Rena. that sounds so stupid, and would make Rena a Pedo.

Ability-wise, it's not impossible. There were fathers at the age of 10 to 13 decades ago. My grandfather told me his friend became a father at 10 and his wife was 16. It's a norm then. My grandfather was considered old at 15 when he became a father.

My question.

Nina said something about Arika being chosen by the Meister Gem, Blue Sky Sapphire. And we all know Meisters sometimes retire/dies and is replaced by another. So what garners more merit? Does that mean that no one else can use the Blue Sky Sapphire now that it "chose" Arika, or something along that lines? If a concrete answer can't be given, then it's okay.

[Eclipze]

Ability-wise, it's not impossible. There were fathers at the age of 10 to 13 decades ago. My grandfather told me his friend became a father at 10 and his wife was 16. It's a norm then. My grandfather was considered old at 15 when he became a father.

My question.

Nina said something about Arika being chosen by the Meister Gem, Blue Sky Sapphire. And we all know Meisters sometimes retire/dies and is replaced by another. So what garners more merit? Does that mean that no one else can use the Blue Sky Sapphire now that it "chose" Arika, or something along that lines? If a concrete answer can't be given, then it's okay.
Well, if Sergey is really the one who "fertilize" Rena, why is he just standing in a corner and admirering(sp?) Rena with her baby during the flash back? Now that makes even less sense.

About the gem....I would think that only Arika can use it now, its like a child in MH. Kagutsuki(sp?) was first the child for Mashiro, and later it was Mai's child. And you dont see Shizuru trying to summon Duran or anything, right?

[AznCoke]

Is Mai Othome the past or the future of Mai Hime

[Sakuya]

I think this is answered in the FAQ... :uhoh:

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Is Mai Othome the past or the future of Mai Hime
We know Mai Otome is set in the future, but it has yet to be seen if it has any connections with Mai Hime.

[SuperKnuckles]

I think the link comes from the way they say that there's about 300 years between the Mai Star events.

So Mai Otome might have taken place 300 or 600 years after Mai Hime. That's what I think.

Imagine if they have a Mai Star series set 300 years ago. heh

[MattAlchemy]

I think 10years ahead. Wait no, 2 years. Arika was a first class thing with Shiho n episode26 Mai Hime, you saw her clothes didn't you? And she should be 13 or 14 in Mai Hime then. And now she's gone 14 in the beginning and her birthday came up to 15.

[Ahiko]

It could be an alternate universe created by the winning HiME (being Mai). I might have remembered wrong, but the victorious HiME would be granted the power to change the world in any way she wanted. She could have made the Otome world as a way to prevent the Dance of the HiME ceremony since young girls chasing their dreams that prevent them from becoming intimate with males will prevent them from suffering what Mai had suffered in HiME.

There's still another half of the series left before more can be figured out about HiME's connection with Otome. (:
I think 10years ahead. Wait no, 2 years. Arika was a first class thing with Shiho n episode26 Mai Hime, you saw her clothes didn't you? And she should be 13 or 14 in Mai Hime then. And now she's gone 14 in the beginning and her birthday came up to 15.If it had been two years later, then Nina would have already graduated with Mai since she sat right next to Mai and in front of Tate. (HiME ep.2) And Arika was wearing the junior high uniform, so there was already an age gap between the two.

[The Bloodlust Kid]

If they would be in the same timeline, then it would be over more than a thousand years. Remember the "Immigration Era"?

[Ahiko]

Follow-up:
http://www.pixpond.com/1/20g2h1.jpg

I don't remember the Immigration Era, sorry. :(

[Tatiana Razajev]

If there is actually a connection between HiME and Otome then my belief is this.Otome must take place in the far future of HiME. At the same "reincarnation" must be a factor. Ie for example Shizuru Viola could be a reincarnation of Shizuru Fujino.

It would not surprise me if Searrs' study of HiMEs will play a large factor in the back story of Otome. Of course that's only if there is a direct connection. Who knows some feel that Miyu from Otome could be the same one from HiME. If any character could still be around it's probably Miyu.

[babuji]

If there is actually a connection between HiME and Otome then my belief is this.Otome must take place in the far future of HiME. At the same "reincarnation" must be a factor. Ie for example Shizuru Viola could be a reincarnation of Shizuru Fujino.

It would not surprise me if Searrs' study of HiMEs will play a large factor in the back story of Otome. Of course that's only if there is a direct connection. Who knows some feel that Miyu from Otome could be the same one from HiME. If any character could still be around it's probably Miyu.




No, all the character were not reincarnation because this is a complete different story from My Hime. Maybe they share the same personality.

[AznCoke]

In the OP she had a Hime mark on her chest does that means shes still a hime =O?

[Kane2005]

It is a mark of the Zipang country where she come from.

[paTKany]

I have a question...
http://fuuka-gakuen.net/otomekepek320x240/mustacheguy.jpghttp://fuuka-gakuen.net/otomekepek320x240/geezer.jpg
Which person is from Remus and which is from Romulus?

[Tempest35]

Yeap, that's all it means.

Now whether or not she gets good ol' Kagu'-chan' back, remains to be seen.

[kazekiri]

In the OP she had a Hime mark on her chest does that means shes still a hime =O? In MH that was just the mark of Kagutsuchi users (check Child Mashiro and you'll find that she has the same mark on her outfit). Well, I suppose you could say the Hime symbol was on her chest as well but that's a different story. :heh:

[Cats]

I have a question...

Which person is from Remus and which is from Romulus?
The first say's "It was our Lutetia's border police that got attacked first"

At 10:39 Smith say's to Nagi :
"This is Lutetia from a few days ago."
" On the Borders of Romulus and Remus we ..."

Posibilities :
I. The First is from Lutetia (country situated betwen Remulus an Remus) the second is from either Remulus or Remus
II. Lutetia is a City or Region from either Remulus or Remus. (my favorite)

[Guido]

What does G.E.M. stands for?

[Cats]

What does G.E.M. stands for?
Generatabel Enigmatic Matrix

[Timeless Enigma]

The first say's "It was our Lutetia's border police that got attacked first"

At 10:39 Smith say's to Nagi :
"This is Lutetia from a few days ago."
" On the Borders of Romulus and Remus we ..."

Posibilities :
I. The First is from Lutetia (country situated betwen Remulus an Remus) the second is from either Remulus or Remus
II. Lutetia is a City or Region from either Remulus or Remus. (my favorite)

The way I understand it the countries are Lutetia Remus and Lutetia Romulus, unless I misinterpreted the information given in some other threads.
They may be comparable to North and South Korea in some ways.

[Mich666]

Can someone sum up all countries we have with correct spelling (many versions now o_o) and all persons belonging to them? I'm a bit lost....
Also Fia is titled "Kenrei no Shimamenou" - I know shimamenou is Onyx but how would you translate it to english as whole?


And, is it just me or are these countries members unbelievably similiar?

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/3774/mocountry17iy.jpg http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7289/mocountry29ns.jpg

[dunefish]

I'm not sure if this hasn't been brought up because no one knows this, no one thinks it's important, or it's been brought up elsewhere.

Romulus and Remus were mythological brothers who fought over the site of the city they were to found. Romulus eventually killed Remus and named the city after himself: Rome.

It only makes sense that the two countries were once a single state, split like the Koreas or formerly East and West Germany. It also follows that tensions would be high between and such divided states.

Also Lutetia is the name of the town that would eventually evolve into Paris.

[scribbly]

It only makes sense that the two countries were once a single state, split like the Koreas or formerly East and West Germany. It also follows that tensions would be high between and such divided states.

Also Lutetia is the name of the town that would eventually evolve into Paris.

I think in ep 14, according to the released subs, one of the countries were told they were a bunch of exiles. I wonder if they really are exiles or the guy was trying to insult them.

[Mirtual]

who is the the dragon lord?
there was this war of the dragon lord, but who or what is it/he?
I know the manga only to chap three, so maybe the answer was given there.

[Guido]

Will Sergey follow Nagi to his scheme of downright evil, given with everything revealed so far up to episode fifteen?

[Catgirls]

Will Sergey follow Nagi to his scheme of downright evil, given with everything revealed so far up to episode fifteen?I think that question is better asked in -- Future Episode Synopses/Series Predictions (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=26320) -- since it can (at this point) only be answered by speculating.

[Guido]

To which nation or kingdom is the Schwarz group affiliated with?

or is Nagi the boss of Schwarz?

[ArchDragon]

To which nation or kingdom is the Schwarz group affiliated with?

or is Nagi the boss of Schwarz?

None, although since they don't have their own territory, they must be hiding within other country's territory.

Nagi is just working together with them, for now.
He'll betray Schwarts when the time comes.

[Mich666]

Both Schwarz and Aswald were part of Black Valley group which split up some time ago.. Maybe due to diferrent ideologies inside... Hence they are called Descendants of the Black Valley now..

[djmaca]

Question!
What is the name of Nina's Gem or soon-to-be Gem?

[Mich666]

Question!
What is the name of Nina's Gem or soon-to-be Gem?
We still don't know if that gem is intended for her... But it's name is Urushi (?? 漆黑 characters are from chinese I don't know how to spell them right) no Kongouseki which literally means Pitch-Black Diamond...

[ArchDragon]

We still don't know if that gem is intended for her... But it's name is Urushi (?? 漆黑 characters are from chinese I don't know how to spell them right) no Kongouseki which literally means Pitch-Black Diamond...

Are you guys sure that gem goes to Nina?
I always thought that that gem is for the shadow Otome weilding the huge claymore...

Besides, Nina's robe looks too pretty and colorful to be called "Pitch-Black Diamond".
But then again, Arika's is pink despite being called "Blue-Sky Sapphire".

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Are you guys sure that gem goes to Nina?
I always thought that that gem is for the shadow Otome weilding the huge claymore...

Besides, Nina's robe looks too pretty and colorful to be called "Pitch-Black Diamond".
But then again, Arika's is pink despite being called "Blue-Sky Sapphire".
Yes, we are sure. That's why spoilers are spoilers.

[Guido]

When will the second OST going to be released?

[JanthraX^]

They say that windbloom is the only place with Earthen Technology, but cant they simply reverse engineer the technolgy and poliferate the stuff, trade and sell?

[Mich666]

They say that windbloom is the only place with Earthen Technology, but cant they simply reverse engineer the technolgy and poliferate the stuff, trade and sell?
That's what Aswald wants... Unfortunatelly, all important technologies remains in hands of Garderobe.

[Kleo Scanti]

Chie is going to be Haruka's assistant, but who will activate her robe then?

[djmaca]

What is the name of Natsuki's GEM?

[Tokkan]

What is the name of Natsuki's GEM?

Ice Silver Crystal.

[Cats]

Chie is going to be Haruka's assistant, but who will activate her robe then?

Probably a Duke from Haruka's contry ... or are you impliing that since Haruka's country has the status of a republic there aren't many people that have nobel snob status ? :p

[Cats]

How did Sibaratsu manage to disrupt Garderobe's system ?... we see the canon otome and then everything goes kboom

[Kleo Scanti]

Probably a Duke from Haruka's contry ... or are you impliing that since Haruka's country has the status of a republic there aren't many people that have nobel snob status ? :p

Since Yukino is a President, I think they have society system different from other countries. And since Chie is going to be Haruka's assistant, not just a colleague, I believe she should be connected with Yukino or Haruka herself.

[ArchDragon]

Since Yukino is a President, I think they have society system different from other countries. And since Chie is going to be Haruka's assistant, not just a colleague, I believe she should be connected with Yukino or Haruka herself.

A vice president is what I'm inclined towards.

Almost every country with elected presidents have a vice president.

[djmaca]

Since Yukino is a President, I think they have society system different from other countries. And since Chie is going to be Haruka's assistant, not just a colleague, I believe she should be connected with Yukino or Haruka herself.

Could there be a chance Chie replaces Haruka? Note an assistant can get promoted...

[ArchDragon]

Could there be a chance Chie replaces Haruka? Note an assistant can get promoted...
Down in the far future, perhaps.

But not at the moment, Haruka isn't retiring.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Considering the fact that Haruka is taking Chie under her wing, it is likely that she has chosen Chie to succeed her when she retires.

That and I wouldn't be surprised if Haruka can also activate Chie's robe. I mean, if she's working under her, it would make sense. That or the president can act as an interm master.

[guest]

Considering the fact that Haruka is taking Chie under her wing, it is likely that she has chosen Chie to succeed her when she retires.

That and I wouldn't be surprised if Haruka can also activate Chie's robe. I mean, if she's working under her, it would make sense. That or the president can act as an interm master.
And how is Haruka going to retire? I can't think of any way for her to do that. :uhoh:

[wombatlord]

How did Sibaratsu manage to disrupt Garderobe's system ?... we see the canon otome and then everything goes kboom

They blew up Fumi's tomb, wrecking the equipment, it looked like to me.

[ArchDragon]

That and I wouldn't be surprised if Haruka can also activate Chie's robe. I mean, if she's working under her, it would make sense. That or the president can act as an interm master.
There's no such thing as an interim master for Meisters, their contracts are there for life, or until they retire.

That's why Sergay warned Arika to be careful in choosing a master.

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And how is Haruka going to retire? I can't think of any way for her to do that. :uhoh:
Just inject a drop of any man's blood into her bloodstream and there goes her powers, and her contract.

[Eclipze]

Just inject a drop of any man's blood into her bloodstream and there goes her powers, and her contract.
Blood? I had the idea it had to be the....*ahem*man fluids*ahem* that contain the Y-chromosomes thingies that develops anti-bodies.

Otherwise, why do they say that the Otomes have to be virgins if they can get wasted with just blood?

:hmm:

[imperialmog]

The real question is would Haruka let anyone else be Yukino's Otome? That and what guy would Haruka ever see, we all know who she's with now.

[KiraDouji]

There's no such thing as an interim master for Meisters, their contracts are there for life, or until they retire.

That's why Sergay warned Arika to be careful in choosing a master.

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Just inject a drop of any man's blood into her bloodstream and there goes her powers, and her contract.

Two things: They said specifically is was specifically a chemical sperm produced that killed off the nanomachines. So, if they injected them with sperm or said chemical, that would work, however it's not just floating around in a man's bloodstream.

Second: It's never once been discussed how a republic government handles otome. We can't assume that the contract stays in this case, due to fundamental differences in the government's structure comparied to the kingdoms and dukedoms.

- Kira

[Cats]

They blew up Fumi's tomb, wrecking the equipment, it looked like to me.
Yes ... but the cannon didn't fire a laser beam it simply produced a shadow ... I was ascking for the segnificance of that ... it seemed to short sircuit the entire uber maid system ... but how and why ?

[Tapp Zaddaz]

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What are these ads for?

[wombatlord]

Yes ... but the cannon didn't fire a laser beam it simply produced a shadow ... I was ascking for the segnificance of that ... it seemed to short sircuit the entire uber maid system ... but how and why ?

Something equivalent to an EMP attack, I expect.

[ArchDragon]

Blood? I had the idea it had to be the....*ahem*man fluids*ahem* that contain the Y-chromosomes thingies that develops anti-bodies.

Otherwise, why do they say that the Otomes have to be virgins if they can get wasted with just blood?

:hmm:
Those nanomachines are also sensitive to Y-chromosomes, those also exist in a man's blood.

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Two things: They said specifically is was specifically a chemical sperm produced that killed off the nanomachines. So, if they injected them with sperm or said chemical, that would work, however it's not just floating around in a man's bloodstream.

- Kira
You forgot about Y-chromosomes, those also exist in a man's blood.

[Eclipze]

Those nanomachines are also sensitive to Y-chromosomes, those also exist in a man's blood.

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You forgot about Y-chromosomes, those also exist in a man's blood.
And you're forgettng that it was specifically mentioned that the *intercourse* is the thing that creates anti-bodies which would destroy and prevent nanomachins from existinv in a female's body.

I mean, whats the freaking point of mentioning the "sex" part when, like you said, it can be destroyed with a male's blood?

Doesnt make sense to me, even by anime's standards.

[PastPrime]

And you're forgettng that it was specifically mentioned that the *intercourse* is the thing that creates anti-bodies which would destroy and prevent nanomachins from existinv in a female's body.

I mean, whats the freaking point of mentioning the "sex" part when, like you said, it can be destroyed with a male's blood?

Doesnt make sense to me, even by anime's standards.
I guess that means that if you seperated the sperm into the X and Y versions and used artificial insimination, an Otome could get pregnant without losing her power. Imagine, Arika giving birth to a baby Otome and Mashiro feeling her pain.

[Eclipze]

I guess that means that if you seperated the sperm into the X and Y versions and used artificial insimination, an Otome could get pregnant without losing her power. Imagine, Arika giving birth to a baby Otome and Mashiro feeling her pain.
I get the feeling that wont work since I *believe* both X and Y chromosomes(if theres both) are needed. Imagine...half a sperm?:twitch:

And also, I do believe the "pain sharing" only occurs when the otome is in her robes. Episode 10(11?), where Haruka fell off the cliff before she released the obes. Didnt look like Yukino felt any pain.

Of course, that scene was comic relief.:heh:

[PastPrime]

I get the feeling that wont work since I *believe* both X and Y chromosomes(if theres both) are needed. Imagine...half a sperm?:twitch:

And also, I do believe the "pain sharing" only occurs when the otome is in her robes. Episode 10(11?), where Haruka fell off the cliff before she released the obes. Didnt look like Yukino felt any pain.

Of course, that scene was comic relief.:heh:
All of woman's viable eggs have one X chromosome. All male viable sperm have either one X, which will give XX and a female when the egg is fertilized, or one Y which will give XY and a male. They actually have a proceedure for seperating the sperm which is used to select the sex of a baby. All X if they want a girl and all Y if they want a boy. As for the pain, you are probably right but it still makes an interesting picture. Imagine that old king releasing his Otome for battle during the most painful part of her cycle. I wonder if he could get PMS too in that case.

[Eclipze]

As for the pain, you are probably right but it still makes an interesting picture. Imagine that old king releasing his Otome for battle during the most painful part of her cycle. I wonder if he could get PMS too in that case.
Well, thats some scientific stuff there.:twitch:

Lmao, king experiencing PMS....I dont wanna imagine.:heh:

[ArchDragon]

And you're forgettng that it was specifically mentioned that the *intercourse* is the thing that creates anti-bodies which would destroy and prevent nanomachins from existinv in a female's body.

I mean, whats the freaking point of mentioning the "sex" part when, like you said, it can be destroyed with a male's blood?

Doesnt make sense to me, even by anime's standards.
Because that's the most likely form of contact an Otome might have with men that will result in the loss of her powers.

Noone would randomly stick a needle into her bf and then stick it into herself.
And Otomes will rarely ever need blood transfusions, thanks to her nanomachines.

Sex, on the other hand, is a natural thing between couples.
So Otome wannabes have to be warned not to fall in love.

[Eclipze]

Because that's the most likely form of contact an Otome might have with men that will result in the loss of her powers.

Noone would randomly stick a needle into her bf and then stick it into herself.
And Otomes will rarely ever need blood transfusions, thanks to her nanomachines.

Sex, on the other hand, is a natural thing between couples.
So Otome wannabes have to be warned not to fall in love.
...The thing is, if Otomes can lose heir powers just by a male's blood, there would be snipers using male blood to take out Otomes, which seesm VERY STUPID.

Not forgetting to mention that this is anime, so in MO's world, Y-chromosomes in the male's blood might not matter AT ALL.

No, really, I dont see why they would bother mentioning ONLY the "sex" part if it wasn't just limited to that (besides shooting a "man fluid dart", which was quite a sick idea that was previously speculated...).

[ArchDragon]

...The thing is, if Otomes can lose heir powers just by a male's blood, there would be snipers using male blood to take out Otomes, which seesm VERY STUPID.

Not forgetting to mention that this is anime, so in MO's world, Y-chromosomes in the male's blood might not matter AT ALL.

No, really, I dont see why they would bother mentioning ONLY the "sex" part if it wasn't just limited to that (besides shooting a "man fluid dart", which was quite a sick idea that was previously speculated...).
Once their robes are active, Otomes are essentially "Superwomans".
If Otomes can be scratched by snipers, noone would bother to own one.
The reason rulers want them is because they're totally invincible as far as conventional military weapons go.

Without their robes, however, they're vulnerable.
A normal bullet can kill them outright, so no need for fancy "blood/sperm bullets".
Or better yet, kill their frail masters!

And randomly spraying blood on someone will NOT get said blood to mix with the target's blood.
You have to inject it directly into the target's body, or spray it on said target's wide open wounds if it has any.

The "sex" part being emphasized is just a plot device to declare that all Otomes must refrain from men.

[Eclipze]

The "sex" part being emphasized is just a plot device to declare that all Otomes must refrain from men.
Yea, and practically everything can be explained as plot device...:rolleyes:

It was NOT mentioned that being injected with blood of a male creates the anti bodies, but intercourse. Unless you're telling me that injecting males blood, that contans Y-chromosomes, instantly creates these anti-bodies?

Doesnt make any anime-sense.

[ArchDragon]

Yea, and practically everything can be explained as plot device...:rolleyes:

It was NOT mentioned that being injected with blood of a male creates the anti bodies, but intercourse. Unless you're telling me that injecting males blood, that contans Y-chromosomes, instantly creates these anti-bodies?

Doesnt make any anime-sense.
Won't you ever get it?

The reason sex with men is forbidden is because of the Y-chromosomes contained within a man's sperm.
Now there are other "fatal" substances that will do the same, but the Y-chromosomes are the first one mentioned.

So it goes with reason that anything else that contains Y-chromosomes will also get the job done.

[paTKany]

What are these ads for?

舞-HiME ファンヂィスク = My-HiME Fan Disc -> http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBA-2381
My-HiME vol.9 -> http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCBA-2003

The two DVDs released on the same day that's why the combined ads.

[Eclipze]

Won't you ever get it?

The reason sex with men is forbidden is because of the Y-chromosomes contained within a man's sperm.
Now there are other "fatal" substances that will do the same, but the Y-chromosomes are the first one mentioned.

So it goes with reason that anything else that contains Y-chromosomes will also get the job done.
And wont you ever get it, that the Y-chromosomes in a male's blood MIGHT BE CONSIDERED DIFFERENT compared to the one contained in the sperm?

Its not that hard to know that this isn't real life, so we have to take whats told to us in face value.

[ArchDragon]

And wont you ever get it, that the Y-chromosomes in a male's blood MIGHT BE CONSIDERED DIFFERENT compared to the one contained in the sperm?

Its not that hard to know that this isn't real life, so we have to take whats told to us in face value.
Youko and Natsuki EXPLICITLY stated that the nanomachines react fatally to Y-chromosomes, that much is FACT at FACE VALUE.
It does NOT matter where those Y-chromosomes came from.

Anyway, I give up, pointless arguing with someone who doesn't know anything about DNA science.

[ccardoso]

Why is Mai shown in the OP?
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6848/vlcsnap2002029lp7zf.th.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap2002029lp7zf.png)
As My Otome is supposed to take place in a very far future Mai is supposed to be space dust... Is she really her or some kind of cyborg?!?

[Cats]

Why is Mai shown in the OP?
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6848/vlcsnap2002029lp7zf.th.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap2002029lp7zf.png)
As My Otome is supposed to take place in a very far future Mai is supposed to be space dust... Is she really her or some kind of cyborg?!?

She was in that old picture with Natsuki (the one when they are corals) ... she's not the Mai from MH ... she's another Mai ... didn't you see the ep with the legend (she's the girl in black) or with Takimi (that's when the picture is shown ) we also see her on the background in the store BackStage (she's coral nr1 ... aparently) also in the first op she was the Otome in black with flames in the background

[djmaca]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/djmaca2/MaiOtome/Mai-Otome20-201720-2036.jpg (http://photobucket.com)

What's Nina's element called anyway?

[monstert]

What's an element? The weapon? Was this stated in the anime?

[Cats]

What's an element? The weapon? Was this stated in the anime?
No ... I belive it's a term used only in the Manga (like GEM - General Enigmatic Matrix), also in MH there wepons were called elements (in both the anime and manga)

[edit] Wasn't this disccused earlier in the thread ?

[djmaca]

No ... I belive it's a term used only in the Manga (like GEM - General Enigmatic Matrix), also in MH there wepons were called elements (in both the anime and manga)

[edit] Wasn't this disccused earlier in the thread ?

Exactly where? The last thing I asked about Nina was her Gem... Your right about the vocabulary I'm using though... I do use the manga version... but isn't the weapon the otome uses are called "elements" as well (note episode 7 as Arika uses Bolt from the blue...)?

[Eclipze]

Youko and Natsuki EXPLICITLY stated that the nanomachines react fatally to Y-chromosomes, that much is FACT at FACE VALUE.
It does NOT matter where those Y-chromosomes came from.

Anyway, I give up, pointless arguing with someone who doesn't know anything about DNA science.
Right....you expect an anime viewer on an anime forum to know about DNA before he is "qualified" to say something.

You sure make alot of sense...

Oh, and anime law of common sense #(insert number): Anime =/= Reality. Whos' to say that Y-chromosomes exist in the blood?

Oh, dont give me anymore bullshit that DNA in Mai Otome = Real life DNA. You're making yourself look stupid since it was NEVER mentioned that a mere blood of a male injected into an Otome would create antibodies that destroy nanomachines.

Heck, is there even real life cases of nanomachines being inserted into a female body, and that injecting Y-chromosomes into the blood would destroy the nanomachines nor the fact that it might well be only able to create the antibodies through the sexual interaction? NO, so stuck it up.

[Cats]

Exactly where? The last thing I asked about Nina was her Gem... Your right about the vocabulary I'm using though... I do use the manga version... but isn't the weapon the otome uses are called "elements" as well (note episode 7 as Arika uses Bolt from the blue...)?

WTF ... you are right .... strange ... why hasn't enyone noticed it up till now ...

Here's a pic to prouve that Otome weapons are called Elements in the anime

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8711/arikahardasselementexpansion00.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arikahardasselementexpansion00.jpg)

Text read's "Blue Sky Sapphire Element Expansion" basicly equal to "Blue Sky Sapphire Weapon Expansion"

[Eclipze]

Sure, believe what you want...

As long as everybody else knows the truth, I could care less about your opinions in particular.
Lol, what truth? that DNA in real life says Y-chromosomes exists in male's blood?

Face value = it was only shown that Otomes gain antibodies through sexual intercourse which leads to destruction of nanomachines. (Y-chromosomes being one of the component in this "act")

:rolleyes:

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Lol, what truth? that DNA in real life says Y-chromosomes exists in male's blood?

Face value = it was only shown that Otomes gain antibodies through sexual intercourse which leads to destruction of nanomachines. (Y-chromosomes being one of the component in this "act")

:rolleyes:
While in the OFFICIAL website it states that it was the Prostate Specific Antigen that has the effects.
ただし、男性のY染色体とPSA（セリンプロテアーゼ）に極端に弱く、もしそれが体内に入るとナノマシンは 分解され、同時に自身に対する抗体をつくるため二度とオトメの力が持てなくなってしまう。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_specific_antigen

The Y chromosome is NOT the component that mattered. It's the male prostate.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ArchDragon]

Lol, what truth? that DNA in real life says Y-chromosomes exists in male's blood?

Face value = it was only shown that Otomes gain antibodies through sexual intercourse which leads to destruction of nanomachines. (Y-chromosomes being one of the component in this "act")

:rolleyes:
Here's a DIRECT QUOTE from Yohko in ep. 4 (SS translation):
"The nano machines, the power source of Otome, react fatally to Y-chromosomes and PSA, serine protease."
Did you miss that line entirely?

And here's the next line:
"If those were to enter your body..."
Meaning either Y-chromosomes or PSA will do the job.
"the nanomachines would degenerate, you would create antibodies, and never be able become an Otome again."
That part you already know.

Now, it that clear enough for you?

[Catgirls]

ArchDragon & Eclipze - Please take your dispute to Private Messages. This isn't a thread to argue in. Provide facts and leave the personal "digs" out of it. Thanks.

[djmaca]

WTF ... you are right .... strange ... why hasn't enyone noticed it up till now ...

Here's a pic to prouve that Otome weapons are called Elements in the anime

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8711/arikahardasselementexpansion00.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arikahardasselementexpansion00.jpg)

Text read's "Blue Sky Sapphire Element Expansion" basicly equal to "Blue Sky Sapphire Weapon Expansion"

Uhh so the question is: what's Nina's element? The expansion mode looks like a copy of Arika's...
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/djmaca2/MaiOtome/Mai-Otome20-201720-2036.jpg

[ArchDragon]

Uhh so the question is: what's Nina's element? The expansion mode looks like a copy of Arika's...
By "what", you mean what form is it, or what is it called?

If you're asking about the form:
The regular ones are a pair of sai's, the oversized form is just a fancy spear, like Arika's.

If you're asking about the name:
I don't think the elements themselves have any names/titles.
Only the robes have names/titles.

Just like in MH, only the Childs have names, but not the elements.
With the exception of Mikoto's Miroku, which actually isn't a "normal" element.

[JanthraX^]

Does any1 have a map of the Mai Otome world?

also how are the gems made? ive seen how they are disposed of (with that acid)

im guessing certain important gems are passed down or are new ones made?

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Uhh so the question is: what's Nina's element? The expansion mode looks like a copy of Arika's...
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/djmaca2/MaiOtome/Mai-Otome20-201720-2036.jpg
Well, according to the character designer, Arika's element is "light".

So my bet on Nina's Element is "Shadow" or "Darkness"

[ArchDragon]

also how are the gems made? ive seen how they are disposed of (with that acid)
Only Coral gems (and most likely Pearl gems too) are made and disposed of in that manner.
How Meister gems are made/found is anyone's guess at this point.

im guessing certain important gems are passed down or are new ones made?
Through Akane's side-story, we know for sure that Meister gems can be passed down from Otome to Otome.
So far, however, no information is available on whether or not new ones can be made.

[djmaca]

By "what", you mean what form is it, or what is it called?

If you're asking about the form:
The regular ones are a pair of sai's, the oversized form is just a fancy spear, like Arika's.

If you're asking about the name:
I don't think the elements themselves have any names/titles.
Only the robes have names/titles.

Just like in MH, only the Childs have names, but not the elements.
With the exception of Mikoto's Miroku, which actually isn't a "normal" element.

Then What The Hell Is "Bolt form the Blue"?:confused:

[ArchDragon]

Then What The Hell Is "Bolt form the Blue"?:confused:
The name of the attack itself, not the weapon.
The key is the countdown, it counts down the attack's execution, not the element's expansion (which is nearly instant).

Think Shin-Ryuu-Ken, Shinkuu-Hadou-Ken or other fighting game finishing moves.

[Guido]

What hidden business the king of Cardair (or is it Carltreya?) has?


In episode eight, he made some fishy arrangements with the Aswald group.

When in episode eighteen news spread all over that Artai kicked out Schwarz and taking Windbloo, and Garderobe in possession, he was quite pissed off that Nagi made the move.

Then, he said something along the lines that the time come to make his move.

[Cats]

We know Miyu stands for : Multiple Intelligential Yggdrasil Unit .... The first part I understand ( ... sorta ... ) but what is Yggdrasil ?

10X in advance :D

[Efreeta]

but what is Yggdrasil ?

10X in advance :D

I remember the name from the anime/manga "Ah, My Goddess", and it's probably a reference to Norse mythology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil

[Tempest35]

Basically it's the 'World Tree'. MH Searrs referred to the HiME as 'Valkryies' and referred to the Land of Fuuka as the Land of Vahalla - also tying to Norse myth. Whether or not this carries actual significance or if these are just the 'working names' that Searrs came up with when relating to anything HiME-related is yet unknown. :heh:

Although, if you take MIYU's mannerisms from MH and MO, they are nearly identical - leading me to this conclusion:

Yggdrasil connected various 'worlds' together - world of men, world of the gods, world of the Frost Giants, etc. Odin, the leader of the Norse gods, was/is referred to as the 'Tree Rider', meaning he could freely travel between the worlds as he wished. If we place MH and MO in similar positions as being separate 'worlds' on a 'world tree', then MIYU could be that very 'Tree Rider', going from world to world and thus remaining the same as she always is and knowing what she knows.

I know it's a stretch but hey...just a thought.

For that matter, Nagi could very well be Loki - he certainly fits the bill. -_-;

[JanthraX^]

The harmonium, im just wondering if anyone has any extra info on the thing?
So far we have seen that it can destroy the otome/master gems, any othee facts?

[ArchDragon]

The harmonium, im just wondering if anyone has any extra info on the thing?
So far we have seen that it can destroy the otome/master gems, any othee facts?
Correction, it can destroy Coral gems in very close proximity, maybe Pearl gems too.

It does nothing to Arika's Blue-Sky Sapphire, a Meister gem.

[Cats]

What are those things on Nagi's back :( (first set, rear) ... the ones one the bottom look like bandages ... and the ones on top look like holes :eyebrow: ...
WTF is Nagi :twitch:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3081/imgfnagi0jo.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgfnagi0jo.jpg)

[l33tz0rd]

I think that Nagi came directly from MATRIX, he's a Neo wannabe.
No phun.

'n' btw, Nina is 2 cool 2 be Nagi's otome. It sure sucks ¬¬''

[Bloody]

question about Natsuki and Shizuru..

Why they can materialized without a Kiss??

and why is Natsuki materialized?? I thought shes a Principal with no Robe :heh:

[Eclipze]

question about Natsuki and Shizuru..

Why they can materialized without a Kiss??

and why is Natsuki materialized?? I thought shes a Principal with no Robe :heh:
Well, both Natsuki and Shizuru are Pillars (Colums actually, I think...). Which means that they only need approval from Shinso (Fumi) to activate their robes, hence not needing the kiss.

Yes, Natsuki is not just a principle without robes.:)

[Cats]

Is Midori's weapon a dual katana or a dual kenpaci (not sure if that's how it's writen ... i'm refering to the short version of the katana) ... is there any official refrence to what there suppose to be :confused:

[Tempest35]

I think you mean...Kodachi.... I had a similar weapon to what she has but I never learned the name of it. :heh: The blades are Kodachi-length - better for the whole 'hidden blades' idea - and it's a nifty lil thing to have. Her's must be made out of some sort of metal cuz mine was made out of wood (the casing) and it shattered not too long ago. ^^;;

[Bloody]

Well, both Natsuki and Shizuru are Pillars (Colums actually, I think...). Which means that they only need approval from Shinso (Fumi) to activate their robes, hence not needing the kiss.

Yes, Natsuki is not just a principle without robes.:)

Ohh... now I get it ... without Shinso (fumi) they Cant materialized?? (episode 16 or 17 probably...) thank you very much ^_^

[Guido]

Is Tomoe a Shizuru nymphomaniac?


On account what happened on episode 20 after Tomoe freed Shizuru, then relocated her to Mashiro's bedroom and then take her to the bed.....

Well, we already got the general idea what happened next.


How will the ShizNat fans respond?

Seriously, Tomoe lacks the subtlety and sutil galore that was characteristic of MH Shizuru's psychosis.

Tomoe is just plainly, hyper horny for Shizuru IMO.

x ToShiz
o ShizNat

[Sunsh]

Tomoe is just plainly, hyper horny for Shizuru IMO.
I don't think so.
I think Tomoe's more dangerous. She's more unstable, psycho and possessive than MH Shizuru for Natsuki.

And

x MoeShiz
x ShizNat
o MoeShizNat
O MoeMiShizNatNao :heh:
:joke:

[vodkakiss]

:uhoh: I don't think so.
I think Tomoe's more dangerous. She's more unstable, psycho and possessive than MH Shizuru for Natsuki.

And

x MoeShiz
x ShizNat
o MoeShizNat
O MoeMiShizNatNao :heh:
:joke:

>.> as a ShizNat fan...I'm reacting like a hydrogen bomb:uhoh:
LOL have you thought about TomShiz? XDDD TOM LMAO!!:heh:


*cough*

[JanthraX^]

Im just wondering if there is any info on the 'Lighthouse' , the blue star/object that is next to the constantly full moon, which suspsicously looks like our own =D

is it a star or an old earthen relic?

i would like to think that it is releated to the harmonium =D

[Cats]

Im just wondering if there is any info on the 'Lighthouse' , the blue star/object that is next to the constantly full moon, which suspsicously looks like our own =D

is it a star or an old earthen relic?

i would like to think that it is releated to the harmonium =D

The only thing we know is that it's conected to the hole "A princess will come to lead us through the many trials ahead" thing (Sergey Arika moment) ... we don't really know what it is ... it could be a space ship (as mentioned by someone here in the forum) or it could just be normal star ... apparantly it is connected with Arika's pendant or directly with her as hinted in the same scene

Evidently the "star" has some major role in the series as the hime star did in hime ... but I don't think it's going to be as important ... probably some kind of component for the harmonium (since the organ dosen't seem to have global reach ... to cause the hole giant desert effect)

Since Mikoto will appear in the next ep ... we might get some more information on it ...

[molitar]

I haven't watched Mai-Hime yet tho I am definitely going to have to.. What exactly are the five pillars? Pillars sound like they would be almost the founders or that the support that holds Otome together but when the system goes haywire the pillars lost their powers also. What kind of pillars are they? What exactly are they when they say they are one of the five pillars? What is the role of the pillars?

[astrallionheart]

Maybe some kind of inside joke about the 13 "pillars/columns" in Mai Hime.

[Cats]

Hmmm .... what's his exact name anyway ? ... on the official site his name is Sergay (if you look at the english ) ... here's the link http://www.my-zhime.net/character/sergei.html
... notice that the page is called "sergei.html"

Maybe that's not his name and just short for : Super Energetic Retro God After YOass

[Eclipze]

I haven't watched Mai-Hime yet tho I am definitely going to have to.. What exactly are the five pillars? Pillars sound like they would be almost the founders or that the support that holds Otome together but when the system goes haywire the pillars lost their powers also. What kind of pillars are they? What exactly are they when they say they are one of the five pillars? What is the role of the pillars?
Well, according the the GEM activation scene, they were refered to as "colums", which some people have found out to mean "saints" or something relative to that.

[Kleo Scanti]

Probably it was discussed already, but... If Yukariko is not a Pillar and has no Master, how does she materialise?

[Cats]

Probably it was discussed already, but... If Yukariko is not a Pillar and has no Master, how does she materialise?
Maybe she has special permision form Natsuki or Fumi ... we all saw Fumi athorize all the coral and pearl gems ... maybe her gem has a special lisence ... or she just makes a quick visit to Natsuki at the bigining of the day for authorization and then just simply authorizes all the students

It's not surprising that she's not a pillar, her robe looks very similar to a pearl robe ... clearly a diviation from that ... Sensei Robe :p

[Sageblink]

I haven't watched Mai-Hime yet tho I am definitely going to have to.. What exactly are the five pillars? Pillars sound like they would be almost the founders or that the support that holds Otome together but when the system goes haywire the pillars lost their powers also. What kind of pillars are they? What exactly are they when they say they are one of the five pillars? What is the role of the pillars?



When pearls are graduated, and if there is a place left, sometimes one of them is chosen ben Shinso/Fumi to become a pillar. Nao takes the place of the "missing" number 4 (Rena? Mai?). They are special otomes as they can materialise their Robe as they want, since they are all connected to Fumi.

They can also "allowed" Garderobe students to materialise their robe.
(in this case, they're kind like masters...)

The fonction of the five pillars isn't clear, except for Natsuki and Shizuru, in charge of the training for the futur otomes.

[molitar]

It will be interesting if they show fully what the significance of the Blue Sky Saphire after all it is called the jewel of the sky. And with it's power Arika unwittingly made it fly. That seems to indicate that it required the power of the Blue Sky for the planes to be able to fly.

[Kleo Scanti]

Nao takes the place of the "missing" number 4 (Rena? Mai?).

Rena never was a pillar, she was just a normal Meister, contracted with the King of Windbloom. I think Nao replaced Mai or even some other otome (I can't believe the place was vacant since Mai's disappearance).

we all saw Fumi athorize all the coral and pearl gems ... maybe her gem has a special lisence ...

You might be right. I think it comes from Fumi, not from Natsuki.

[Tempest35]

Rena never was a pillar, she was just a normal Meister, contracted with the King of Windbloom. I think Nao replaced Mai or even some other otome (I can't believe the place was vacant since Mai's disappearance).


Well, it takes a special girl to become a Pillar :) For nearly 9 years, Garderobe couldn't produce a Pearl worthy of becoming a Pillar until Nao came along. Either that or since Natsuki became the Principle, she's been holding the spot 'just in case' Mai wandered back. :D
Mai and Natsuki's class must have been something - producing two Pillars within the same class and a host of famous Otome as well. Seems like everyone in Natsuki's Coral class pic is a famous Otome. I got to hand it to Haruka and Shizuru - they know how to train Otome.

[-KarumA-]

by the way did anyone notice the gem in Miss. Maria's ear
what would it be like if she activated her robe O.O;

[paTKany]

by the way did anyone notice the gem in Miss. Maria's ear
what would it be like if she activated her robe O.O;
Pure pwnage.
Look at these uberpowerful statistics:
Megami scan:
Maria
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7726/maria6va.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maria6va.jpg)

Power: B
Intelligence: S
Technics: SS
Style: A
Bijin degree: S(?)

[-KarumA-]

Pure pwnage.
Look at these uberpowerful statistics:

Power: B
Intelligence: S
Technics: SS
Style: A
Bijin degree: S(?)

what does the SS stand for

btw im hoping on seing her transform ROFL :heh: just for the fun of it..

[Guido]

Are My-HiME and Mai-Otome connected?

It doesn't looks so to me.

[roon]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9565/artist5qp.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9565/artist5qp.jpg)

Did they really blacklist Seki Tomokazu for spilling the beans on his blog? He doesn't seem to be in this picture they have on the official MH site, where just about every other seiyuu of importance can be seen.

That, and they don't even have Yuuichi on the main front page..

[philip72]

Does anyone Know what kind of ratings Mai Otome is getting in Japan right now? How is it comparing to other series currently on the air?

[Guido]

Does anyone Know what kind of ratings Mai Otome is getting in Japan right now? How is it comparing to other series currently on the air?

In TV Tokyo's weekly top 20 Mai-Otome ranks 17th place for most viewed anime show broadcast in that TV station.

Pokemon AG, Naruto, and Bleach rank 1st, 2nd, and 3rd respectively for most viewed anime in TV Tokyo.

Check it for yourself here:
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/

[philip72]

Cool, thanks Guido!

17th in the anime ratings:
Is that good? or is it pretty bad?
I don't know how many shows TV Tokyo has, but does that mean the franchise is popular? or is it unprofitable?

[Tokkan]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9565/artist5qp.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9565/artist5qp.jpg)

Did they really blacklist Seki Tomokazu for spilling the beans on his blog? He doesn't seem to be in this picture they have on the official MH site, where just about every other seiyuu of importance can be seen.

That, and they don't even have Yuuichi on the main front page..

Wikipedia's Japanese article on Mai-Otome has said for a while that Seki's own schedule had conflicted with the production schedule of Mai-Otome, so Konishi took his place.

[roon]

Wikipedia's Japanese article on Mai-Otome has said for a while that Seki's own schedule had conflicted with the production schedule of Mai-Otome, so Konishi took his place.

My mistake -- I was actually referencing Mai-HiME and thought I'd post it here since there was nowhere else to post it. Anyway, I was actually referring to this page:
http://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/my-hime/web/character/home6.html

No interview with Seki, like with all the other seiyuu. And the fact that there's what looks like an empty seat in the back row of the photo.

Makes me wonder if there really was a schedule conflict :heh:

[Eclipze]

Not just Yuuichi, I dont see Alyssa's interview either.

[Myname]

Just wondering to what extent the robe activation for meisters with masters go. IF Arika kept a bottle Mashiro's saliva, and if voice recognition is require (cause sometimes they don't even say release your power before kissing it), recorded her voice then dabbed a bit of saliva on the gem and played the audio, would she be able to materialize?

What if her lips or tongue were mysteriously cut off, would Arika be able to use those and touch her gem with it?

How does the ring keep track if the master is dead or alive?

[roon]

Not just Yuuichi, I dont see Alyssa's interview either.

Interesting... and now that I think about it her voice actress isn't in Otome either?

[/thinking too much about seiyuu and their disappearances]

[monstert]

Just wondering to what extent the robe activation for meisters with masters go. IF Arika kept a bottle Mashiro's saliva, and if voice recognition is require (cause sometimes they don't even say release your power before kissing it), recorded her voice then dabbed a bit of saliva on the gem and played the audio, would she be able to materialize?

What if her lips or tongue were mysteriously cut off, would Arika be able to use those and touch her gem with it?

How does the ring keep track if the master is dead or alive? I think that every time a master kiss an otome's GEM there is an instantaneous current of energy that flows from the GEM in the master's ring, through the master's body and lips, to the GEM in the otome's ear that activates the nanomachines in the Otome's body that allows her to materialize her robe. So just using using the saliva and/or lips of the master probably wouldn't work because there won't be any connection between the two GEMs.

This is just my guess of course.

[Cats]

Just a thought :
If the master is missing an eye or an arm ... what will happen when his otome materialises ... or when she takes a blow to the arm

[lone_wolf]

Not just Yuuichi, I dont see Alyssa's interview either.


I think around the time of the interviews Miyamura Yuko(Alyssa) was in labor. She was definitely pregnant during the time of recording.

Plus her character wasn't prominent enough to make that interview....but let's just say that the consolation would be in the fandisk since she along with some of the other seiyuu veterans like Iwao Junko (Akane) and Yukana (Mashiro) were being interviewed.


--Lone Wolf

[lone_wolf]

Interesting... and now that I think about it her voice actress isn't in Otome either?

[/thinking too much about seiyuu and their disappearances]



Maybe Miyamura Yuko wanted to spend more time with her baby? As I was explaining earlier, she was pregnant during the MAi Hime recording sessions.


--Lone Wolf

[The Bloodlust Kid]

What are those things on Nagi's back :( (first set, rear) ... the ones one the bottom look like bandages ... and the ones on top look like holes :eyebrow: ...
WTF is Nagi :twitch:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3081/imgfnagi0jo.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgfnagi0jo.jpg)
They look like those things used to help soothe muscle cramps.

[Cats]

When Nina activates the Harmonium, she automaticly materializes ... so is she now at pillar status (no master) or is she still Nagi's otome :confused:

[roon]

Maybe Miyamura Yuko wanted to spend more time with her baby? As I was explaining earlier, she was pregnant during the MAi Hime recording sessions.


--Lone Wolf

Ah, probably. That makes total sense, thanks for the info. :)

[Starks]

Who was the person Nina saw while she was underwater?

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Rena, how is it so hard to see?

SHe sees Rena under the darkness and then the face changes to Arika.

[Yazakura]

I REALLY wished Arika's grandma taught her about looking before she leapt, and maybe about some ways to avoid power hungry leaders. :heh:

What do you regret that Arika's grandmother forgot to teach her?

[riznar]

The 80% rule

If your age or your partner's age is not within 80% of the other, the relationship is no good.

[n1dh0g]

I have a question that Im not sure whether has it been asked before. But if it has, then sorry.

Why doesn't Arika has the same robe as Rena since they are usin the same gem???
Like in Fia's case, she had the same weapon and was wearin the exactly same rob as monica in ep 8.

Btwz, wouldnt the otomes with more extendable thingys have a bigger advantage because they can extend more and use it to attack or for any other purposes???

[paTKany]

Why doesn't Arika has the same robe as Rena since they are usin the same gem???
Like in Fia's case, she had the same weapon and was wearin the exactly same rob as monica in ep 8.


Do not search logic in that.
BTW Fia's and Monica's GEM was different.
Fia - Kenrei no Shimamenou
Monica - Ryuusui no Toukiseki

[n1dh0g]

Do not search logic in that.
BTW Fia's and Monica's GEM was different.
Fia - Kenrei no Shimamenou
Monica - Ryuusui no Toukiseki

Ok thanks. I forgot about the difference in gem. Anyways, I wont bother searching logic in that again. :P

[Mirtual]

I am not sure if this has benn asked already, but why does the elements form change accorind to the user of the GEM?
Or is it that the elements can be "materialized" in different forms?

Maybe the manga gives some expalanation here.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2725/skyblue010ls.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skyblue010ls.jpg)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8106/skyblue024kr.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skyblue024kr.jpg)

[Klashikari]

it is possible that Rena is in the "full power state"

remember that John Smith told to Arika, at the episode 17, that she was using the Blue-Sky Sapphire, but not at full power.

there is a high chance that her robe will be upgraded, among her element and capabilities.

[Cats]

I like to thik it's about the feelings like Akane said (the "someting else" besides skill, that is needed to be a great otome) ... or it could be that Arika is too young :p ... at the moment (ep23) Arika lacks both

They look like those things used to help soothe muscle cramps.
Uhhh ... and how is that suppos to work :confused:
Since we've been ofered many hime refrences thus far it could be that those things are just a copy of what Miyu had when she woke from the Rehab Capsule in Hime ... maybe Nagi's the dragon lord or somthing ... that would explain why he know's so much and why he's so cunning ... or maybe he's from Fumi's time ... since he seems to know Fumi somehow ... the fact he's always been teasing and tricking mith also be a clue

[kazekiri]

there is a high chance that her robe will be upgraded, among her element and capabilities.Well, she is currently training with the recognized Best of the Best (ie Mikoto) so we'll see.

[kazekiri]

Ok, here's something I haven't seen yet. Arika is supposedly Alyssa's descendent which is why Miyu sees the golden glow, right? So how exactly does Alyssa have descendents, was she cheating on Miyu?!

[monstert]

was she cheating on Miyu?! What a strange choice of word.:twitch: It's not like they're lovers or anything like that.

[The Bloodlust Kid]

Uhhh ... and how is that suppos to work :confused:

Those things look like adhesives with pain-relieving ointment on them and you stick them to places where it hurts. Well, those rectangles are but I'm not entirely sure about the circular ones.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

What a strange choice of word.:twitch: It's not like they're lovers or anything like that.
Indeed. Alyssa considers Miyu to be an extension of herself. They are one.
(And now, in Mai Otome, Alyssa became an extension of Miyu.)

That's why Miyu isn't her MIP in Mai Hime. Watch her DVD Omake in Mai Hime for details.

[CaiSter21]

ok, i know this question might sound stupid to a lot of people out there, but are the two really not related???

i recently watched eps 22 and saw that Miyu was in fact the android that the Sears company had built and that Alyssa was the bird. so then wat is the Sears company doing in My Otome?
isn't the setting on some planet similar to Earth? and not Earth itself?
and isn't it some time far ahead in the future, if the people from Earth were able to travel to distant planets?

so then the true question that i am asking is how exactly did Miyu and the "reincarnated"(lets just say reincarnated for lack of better words) Alyssa get to the new "Otome" planet?

[monstert]

Yeah, I was starting to have a little doubt myself regarding the relationship of the two series. But then again all I have to look at is all the familiar characters from Hime popping up in Otome with more or less their name. Seeing as how these characters cannot be the same characters in Hime, the idea of alternate story/universe/reality/whatever you want to call it is really the best explanation. It's kind of like the gundam universes, though not exactly. Sure the Turn A tries to tie them up altogether, but then again, there was no need to since the idea of alternate paths is generally accepted in fictionional world, don't know about reality. Of course, the writer could still force a relationship between the two Mai series, but having two Miyus and two Akiras and two Naos and two Akanes is fine by itself and definitely fine by me.

[Whitemoon648]

Well no one knows if they are related or not. But alot of people speculate that they are related. Well in my opinion My otome is related to Mai-hime. Probably mai-Hime happend around centuries ago and after centuries Mai-otome occures. My guess is that people had to travel someother planet due to battles of Himes/Otomes and the technology was lost and was changed to Otome power instead of himes. and probably the current mikoto is a only Hime left and Miyu is the same Miyu from Mai-hime and is just following allisa's wishes to save the planet through these years. So the only people who are probably the same Mai-hime are Miyu ( for sure) and Mikoto ( probably). Well these are all my speculations and Mai-hime and mai-otome might be not related at all :heh: .

P.S. By the way dont feel ur question might be stupid. This topic has been discussed a few time so its ok. But it would have been better if you searched the forums and just post your questions in the current ones :).

[CaiSter21]

Well no one knows if they are related or not. But alot of people speculate that they are related. Well in my opinion My otome is related to Mai-hime. Probably mai-Hime happend around centuries ago and after centuries Mai-otome occures. My guess is that people had to travel someother planet due to battles of Himes/Otomes and the technology was lost and was changed to Otome power instead of himes. and probably the current mikoto is a only Hime left and Miyu is the same Miyu from Mai-hime and is just following allisa's wishes to save the planet through these years. So the only people who are probably the same Mai-hime are Miyu ( for sure) and Mikoto ( probably). Well these are all my speculations and Mai-hime and mai-otome might be not related at all :heh: .

P.S. By the way dont feel ur question might be stupid. This topic has been discussed a few time so its ok. But it would have been better if you searched the forums and just post your questions in the current ones :).

thanks!!!
that was exactly what i was thinking of too!!!
that mai otome is told centuries ahead of Mai hime!!!!

[The Bloodlust Kid]

I think of the Otome's world as the possible alternate future to HiME but not exactly canon.

It's hard to explain, the connection between the two series is an easter egg but also should not be put into the same timeline.

(Remember: the HiME marks disappeared at the end of Mai-HiME, so Otome's Mikoto is probably not exactly the same Mikoto from HiME)

[Whitemoon648]

I think of the Otome's world as the possible alternate future to HiME but not exactly canon.

It's hard to explain, the connection between the two series is an easter egg but also should not be put into the same timeline.

(Remember: the HiME marks disappeared at the end of Mai-HiME, so Otome's Mikoto is probably not exactly the same Mikoto from HiME)

they lost the mark when Their child died, but at the end their child came back and they ended the battle of Hime's that was suposedly a Must-have battle so that the world would be safe. However Hime's decided that they didnt want to have them any more thus the battles ended in the last battle that Mai performed.

However end of the battle means the cycle of the Hime battles ( that presumably saved the world) ended. Also we see Nagi and mashiro talking about that they dont know ( Mai, midori, ... rest of himes) about what hard things coming for them in future. ( which at the end of the Mai-hime series no one undrestood what it meants and there was some arguments about it).

My speculation is that the things that Hime Nagi and Mashiro forsaw was that world would be destroyed ( in Otome people arent in earth u know. they had to immigrant from earth because it was destroyed) due to the end of the battle. After Immigration the technology was lost and the only technology left was the garderobe ones and Fumi used that to creat otomes.

Well they are all my guesses but thats how i think it is.

[The Bloodlust Kid]

they lost the mark when Their child died, but at the end their child came back and they ended the battle of Hime's that was suposedly a Must-have battle so that the world would be safe. However Hime's decided that they didnt want to have them any more thus the battles ended in the last battle that Mai performed.

However end of the battle means the cycle of the Hime battles ( that presumably saved the world) ended. Also we see Nagi and mashiro talking about that they dont know ( Mai, midori, ... rest of himes) about what hard things coming for them in future. ( which at the end of the Mai-hime series no one undrestood what it meants and there was some arguments about it).

My speculation is that the things that Hime Nagi and Mashiro forsaw was that world would be destroyed ( in Otome people arent in earth u know. they had to immigrant from earth because it was destroyed) due to the end of the battle. After Immigration the technology was lost and the only technology left was the garderobe ones and Fumi used that to creat otomes.

Well they are all my guesses but thats how i think it is.

The marks disappeared because there wasn't a need for HiME any more and if I do remember, it seems that it was implied that the only reason why the HiME battles keep reoccurring was because the previous generations failed to destroy the HiME star and/or was defeated by the Obsidian Lord (like Mashiro). So that probably was the final battle.

Ah well, we'll wait and see.

[Klashikari]

if i'm not wrong, the carnival in MH is supposed to be a battle to design the chosen Hime as "a savior" by putting her in a crystal (like mashiro, becoming suisho hime); giving her the power to seal the hime star for 300 years. (the result leads also a "prosperity" for the country/world )

the carnival isn't a battle againt lord Kokuyo at first.

but the finality is simply easier if you defeat the source of the carnival

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

All this could be easily resolved by assuming the Sears organisation went as far as to build their own Hime star.

Never underestimate the capabilities of secret organisations.:heh:

[Whitemoon648]

The marks disappeared because there wasn't a need for HiME any more and if I do remember, it seems that it was implied that the only reason why the HiME battles keep reoccurring was because the previous generations failed to destroy the HiME star and/or was defeated by the Obsidian Lord (like Mashiro). So that probably was the final battle.

Ah well, we'll wait and see.

If i am not mistaken Mashiro wasnt Obsidian lord. Obsidian lord was the other person that Nagi was following ( i dont remember his name. Was it Reito?). And Obsidian Lord's role was to seal the Final remaining Hime so that world would be saved. However Obsidian Lord decided he didnt want to do that any more. He proposed to Mai to Become his Wife and with her make a new generation ( obviosuly since Mai wouldnt be sealed this way and the world would parish and leave Mai and the lord the only two alive for the new generation). However Mai didnt accept it and deafeated Him and the star. Its true that deafeating the star would end the Battle of Hime's However We need to recall Nagi and Mashir's chat from Mai-Hime. Mashiro Said some thing like : "they have chosen this path by themselves" and i think then Nagi/or Mashiro sais : " that they are going to counter alot of hardships due it to" or something like that. We dont know if the destruction of the Star would save the world or not, all that was said it would end the " Hime battle". So probably from Nagi and Mashiro's chatter i wouldnt be supprised that they knew the earth would be destroyed.

Also regarding Nagi and Mashiro from Mai-Hime. I have a feeling Nagi from Mai-otome is acctually the same from Mai-Hime. He is a kid and has so much talent and knowledge. He even remember what happend during the 15 years ago's attak on windbloom. and have any one noticed his apearence hasnt changed a bit when younger looking Sergery bowed down to him?.
Also i have a feeling that the Mashiro from Mai-hime might apear. So we have two mashiro, one the queen of windblood and other Mashiro from Mai-hime ( possibly the black-otome from the first OP of Mai-otome series).

[gashunum]

Assuming the "fake movie" become real, the carnival continues with the "appearance" of the "last hime" (arika), and mikoto somehow became the only survivor...

[-KarumA-]

this couldnt be set on earth...
since the first war in Otome, destroyed a large part of the planets normal eco system, making it all dessert

i think its more of an alternative reality, they could have a Sears company there

[Eclipze]

In anycase, if Mai Otome is indeed a sequel to MH, then it is one that makes absolutely no sense to me.

First off, its not a "direct" direct sequel. MO takes place at least 500 years in the future (as compared to MH). Hence, its not a "direct" direct sequel. Secondly, what purpose does MO serve, as a sequel?

FFX-2 served the purpose of:
Yuna and Riku, with another stranger, to have an attemp to find Tidus, who disappeared at the end of FFX
GSD served the purposed of:
showing what happened to the CE world after the war in GS (I know this sounds vague)

What about Mai Otome? We dont see Miyu planning to use Arika to "bring about the golden millennium". Otomes being completely different from Himes (they're closer to Miyu, actually). Characters who have the same name AND looks as their MH counterpart. Hell, they even have the same relationships (ShizNat, Yukino/Haruka)

Lets be frank, even though MO is a "direct sequel" to MH, the entire set up of the series is basically screaming out "alternate universe". I enjoy MO as it is, thank you very much.

[Klashikari]

this is simply the danger from the "star system" (i mean : using same characters from a popular serie for another "look alike but different" one)

this is a double edged wildcard : fans from the previous anime can be gathered with that, but that wildcard can create a huge feeling of deceiving for the fans (especting a sequel, etc)

Sunrise made Mai-Otome as another view of "himes", strong girls with incredible power, yet with a dreadly fate.

the several cameos from MH in MO don't prove anything about "direct/far sequel".
so i agree with Eclipze : this would be extremely ridiculous, the MH/MO plots are so much different that they wouldn't be believable if they were linked (c'mon... Itsukahime is over in MH, MO is focusing on a drastic different universe )

how do you explain the "time period" problem, when you look at MO mai and MO natsuki age ? (remember that Garderobe allow only 14-16 years old girls being otome... guess what? MH mai and MH natsuki have the same age (MO Mai and Natsuki seem being even younger than their MH alter ego). how can you make a time jump like this? the change of natsuki's name? this would be clearly a stupid and yet unreal deus ex machina )

how can we explain Reito's case? On yohko's picture, we see that Reito is actually older than midori and yohko before becoming the Cyborg, Rad (something like 3-5 years older i would say). However, in MH, it's the opposite : Reito is still in fuuka academy (Third year if i'm right), so around 17-18 years old, midori is in her twenties -__-"


all of the cameo are just used as cameo, not as sequel elements (it's possible that there is a MH searrs and a MO searrs, etc)

[Last_Hope]

There´s no way Mai Otome is a sequel of Mai HiME, just look at the characters and the world. There´s no plausible way of making Otome into a sequel for HiME.

It´s a parallel story in a parallel universe. Like the worlds in Noein. ;)

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

There´s no way Mai Otome is a sequel of Mai HiME, just look at the characters and the world. There´s no plausible way of making Otome into a sequel for HiME.

It´s a parallel story in a parallel universe. Like the worlds in Noein. ;)
...unless you believe in reincarnation.

...What? Just throwing out random theories isn't a crime, is it?:p

[PastPrime]

What exactly difference does it make if this is the same universe as Mai HiME or an alternate universe. It takes place on another planet many hundreds of years in the future. As far as I can see it makes no difference to the story either way.

[Last_Hope]

...unless you believe in reincarnation.

...What? Just throwing out random theories isn't a crime, is it?:p

You never know. ;) :heh:

[Eclipze]

As far as I can see it makes no difference to the story either way.
Well....thats the whole point. I mean, why make it a "direct sequel" by throwing things in like MIYU, Searrs and Crystal Hime, when it doesnt make any difference to the story?

About the reincarnation part...well, they must all share the same fate and time of reincarnation then. For the entire cast from HM to be reincarnated into their MO counterparts, with the same relationships, they must be cursed or something.

I mean, 100 years later, and Shizuru (insert new sir name) will still be in love with a girl called Natsuki, its a never ending cycle...:heh:

[lone_wolf]

Well....thats the whole point. I mean, why make it a "direct sequel" by throwing things in like MIYU, Searrs and Crystal Hime, when it doesnt make any difference to the story?

About the reincarnation part...well, they must all share the same fate and time of reincarnation then. For the entire cast from HM to be reincarnated into their MO counterparts, with the same relationships, they must be cursed or something.

I mean, 100 years later, and Shizuru (insert new sir name) will still be in love with a girl called Natsuki, its a never ending cycle...:heh:


It's the reincarnation idea that you mentioned has been done several times in other titles so it wouldn't be far-fetched.

*If* indeed they are going that route, then it's possible they're utilizing the "being destined to be together" kind of storyline....it's been done to death in regular non-animated movies unfortunately.

Who knows if they really are goin' this route but I wouldn't put it past them. There's only so much writers can do these days since every single storyline has been used at least once. There are no such things as an"original" idea anymore..LOL:heh: Something I learned from a professor in my short-story writing class way back in college.

But oh well....I'll just enjoy the ride from here on while everyone speculates...LOL. Now I just utilize these forums as a another form of entertainment.;) Which reminds me....


...On Another note:

My co-workers started to make"Polls" here at work formed from animesuki posters and their speculations. I myself still haven't put my money on anyone though. Hmmmm....which poster should I put my money on? Eclipze, you're a bit of a wild-card according my my co-workers but some have managed to put money down on you.:heh:

--Lone Wolf

[Cats]

The Mai Otome manga seems to offer the Otome = future of Hime universe ... and since they kinda stole some of the ideas from the manga (butchered them into the anime we know and ha... uhh... love ... it's posible that they went the same way as the manga ... then again the manga has realy cool plot development (the anime dosent:( ), tons of action (the anime lacks:upset: ) tons of funy bits (the anime stinks:mad: ), cool looking caracters (the anime is really close ;) ).... ohh well, still like the anime :rolleyes:... can't really expect them to use some of the scenes in the manga :cool:

Little question :
Who writes the manga ?... Just how are they conected to Sunrise ?...

[lone_wolf]

Little question :
Who writes the manga ?... Just how are they conected to Sunrise ?...


The one that came up with the scenario for both Mai Hime and Mai Otome manga versions is Kimura Noburu He's also one of the script and media writers for Mai Hime.

The one who organized the manga was Yoshino Hiroyuki who also assisted with the manga scenario for both Hime and Otome. And he's one of the other script writers for both anime adaptations as well.


--Lone Wolf

[uplinkhack]

thanks!!!
that was exactly what i was thinking of too!!!
that mai otome is told centuries ahead of Mai hime!!!!
i think so too...MO episode 23 shows that Mikoto is the Cat god (or God of Cats) and the only remaining Hime with the mark on her arm...so i think all died except her and the story is moved on to years later on another planet...but why characters with same face and same names used, i dunno...

wikipedia also says otome happens years after hime....

[PwrSerge]

Why does everyone keep assuming that the story does not take place on EARTH! :confused: There's one major piece of evidence to indicate otherwise...

THE MOON! I mean seriously, what are the chances that the immigrants from earth discovered a planet that is habitable, in range, and has the EXACT SAME SATELITE?

From what I can see here's the simplest explanation. (Arkham's razor at work people)

MH carnival got restarted via some artifical HiMEs or some other nonesence.
Mikoto won. (not a huge surprise there)
The MO planet is earth with a couple of centuries worth of edditing from Mikoto. (Scary thought, I know)

SERGE

[Cats]

We assume it's not earth since Irina-chan said : " Our ancestors imigrated from Earth with the power of tech " or something like that ... sorry I'm too lazy to search for the exact line .... Anyway it's preaty hard to make a good moon might as well copy paste it in the anime ...

[PwrSerge]

Remember, just because a char says it does not mean it is true. The immigrated from earth thing might just be what everyone BELIEVES.

SERGE

[Klashikari]

Why does everyone keep assuming that the story does not take place on EARTH! :confused: There's one major piece of evidence to indicate otherwise...

THE MOON! I mean seriously, what are the chances that the immigrants from earth discovered a planet that is habitable, in range, and has the EXACT SAME SATELITE?

From what I can see here's the simplest explanation. (Arkham's razor at work people)

MH carnival got restarted via some artifical HiMEs or some other nonesence.
Mikoto won. (not a huge surprise there)
The MO planet is earth with a couple of centuries worth of edditing from Mikoto. (Scary thought, I know)

SERGE

Remember, just because a char says it does not mean it is true. The immigrated from earth thing might just be what everyone BELIEVES.

SERGE



i can return your own argument : even if the planet they are talking about is named EARTH, there is NO guarantee that it is our earth. therefore, no proof that there was a moon or anything else. (so, in the MO universe, why not? why is it impossible that there is any habitable planet? you don't even know how where the earth technology in MO)

as long as context is set by the characters without "i think" "it is said that, etc"
we should give credit to that.
your argument is not appropriate

[kazekiri]

Umm, how about the official website stating that the planet isn't Earth? Is that proof enough?

[Eclipze]

Umm, how about the official website stating that the planet isn't Earth? Is that proof enough?
...I think thats the whole point of Klashikari's arguement...

[uplinkhack]

i can return your own argument : even if the planet they are talking about is named EARTH, there is NO guarantee that it is our earth. therefore, no proof that there was a moon or anything else. (so, in the MO universe, why not? why is it impossible that there is any habitable planet? you don't even know how where the earth technology in MO)

as long as context is set by the characters without "i think" "it is said that, etc"
we should give credit to that.
your argument is not appropriate
i agree so much...unless u're trying to say that the plot tries to make the viewers 'believe' that it's not Earth then suddenly they say: 'wow, they're on earth!', and surprise the whole world.

but seriously so what if it is or isn't on OUR Earth? you won't find HiMEs roaming around our Earth will u?

[Klashikari]

i didn't mean that ^^'
just saying : in anime, the "common sense" about reality isn't perfect, because all of us know that most of the anime stories are based on fictionnal stories.

therefor, we shouldn't think that "this is our reality, with some add/removed/changed elements"

and that is even more obvious in MO : most characters talking about "their ancesters and the earth" without talking about rumours, thoughts, theories, etc; with the site informations, etc.

i just stated that : we shouldn't always compare anime world plot with real life, that's all (so saying "this is earth, there isn't any habitable planet around, especially with a satellite looking absolutely like our moon" is really not eligible; especially that : i never recall myself spotting ANY blue star in the sky that brightly, around the moon -___-)

Anime context (plot/history of the anime, thoughts/knowledge of the characters, etc) is somewhat the sole truth, as long as the information is stated as it, not rumoured and such. (that's why, fan speculations or theories aren't really my cup of tea, unless evidences and facts are shown)

[Guido]

Anyone knows what's the loophole that enables Nina to keep her Otome powers after she and Sergey spent the night together?

[riznar]

Trojan, the Otome you want, the protection you trust.

[Retsoor]

Nina is still the heir apparent, her qualifications as the "Player" are still in effect. You will note that even though her gem reacted, she did not materialize.

[amonet]

I have a question - how does everyone who looks at Arika in her Meister Robe know that she can't reach its full potential?

[kazekiri]

I have a question - how does everyone who looks at Arika in her Meister Robe know that she can't reach its full potential?Two possibilities I can think of. 1, the Robe is supposed to be blue like when Rena wore it and somehow the color change indicates that Arika isn't powered up enough. 2, They Just Do, don't ask why.

[Klashikari]

just like kaze said : the colors, or maybe the aura? (power of the circle around ? )

[amonet]

If it is the colour, then Nina is underpowered as well - The Ultimate Black Diamond.

The colour was the only thing I could come up with as well (wonder why no-ones commented on that in the series? lol), but I seriously doubt that Arika will get the blue Robe by the end of it!

[Klashikari]

we meant : the color she got, really different from the famous Meister Rena Sayers.
Some robes dosnt match according their stone correctly in terms of color (like Haruka's robe : topaz; which is greenish, in my point of view), this isn't the point.

but this would be weird that a GEM would materialise a robe according its owner

[ArchDragon]

we meant : the color she got, really different from the famous Meister Rena Sayers.
Some robes dosnt match according their stone correctly in terms of color (like Haruka's robe : topaz; which is greenish, in my point of view), this isn't the point.
I really don't think the color has anything to do with it.

Think about it this way:
If you're a car racing fan, and you saw an amateur driving a McLaren F1 around the racetrack, you should be able to tell that the newb can't bring out the supercar's full potential.

Same thing with Arika's case.
Smith and Natsuki are both very well versed when it comes to Otomes, so they should be able to tell that Arika can't seem to bring forth her robe's full power.

but this would be weird that a GEM would materialise a robe according its owner
It makes sense though, it already has to adjust to different Otomes' size and proportions.
So, why not adjust its color to fit each Otomes' personality as well?

[Klashikari]

so, how could Smith tell that about arika, just by looking her materialising? he even didn't see her in action before, nor immediately : just by looking her materialising and stares at her for like... 2 seconds :confused:

[kazekiri]

What I'd like to know is how a GEM is chosen for a Meister. You'd think that since the gem determines how the Otome will fight, there should be some measure of choice here. Of course, all the situations we've seen so far are abnormal and since the show's ending soon I doubt we'll ever know whether the Otome has any say in the matter or not. Now there's a scene I'd love to see see - Nina: But I don't want that one, the Robe's colors are hideous and I'd rather get a spear or something.

[Juan Valdez]

i agree so much...unless u're trying to say that the plot tries to make the viewers 'believe' that it's not Earth then suddenly they say: 'wow, they're on earth!', and surprise the whole world.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/61/300px-Statue_of_liberty_in_planet_of_the_apes.jpg
"You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"

[Prodigious]

Yeah I think Nina has been... deactivated. Nagi just doesn't know it yet. I'm thinking the system won't work fully, unless they bring in another Otome(it's never specified that the "Protector" has to be a specific Otome). Then again, maybe it'll be a love conquers all scenario, and somehow things will just work because Nina wants to save Sergay so badly.

I can't wait to see the battle during the finale. Hopefully the Robes will be reactivated somehow for all the good guys, cause I want to see Natsuki fight some more. She was so hot in the 5 seconds of fighting time she had during the entire series. Should be interesting to see Mai kick some ass too(she did say she was coming right?).

In regards to the Earth thing. Doesn't really matter. I personally want believe it's really Earth due to the Moon and Hime Star. There are plenty of examples in both storytelling and real life history where records and word of mouth become unreliable, so certain made up legendary events start to be taken as fact or true history simply because there is no other available explanation. Maybe humanity lost part of it's history, wiped out most of civilization, and then came up with a story of traversing the stars and such. Highely unlikely, but still possible. Then again, if the writers say its not Earth, that means it's not Earth. ;)

What really gets me is that there very well may be a reset button. One episode ago I wouldn't have thought so, escpecially because only like 1 major character had died. But Nagi's little talk about the "technology" to revive Sergay made me uneasy. Nina's gonna die, Mashiro and Arika are going to use the Harmonium, with Aoi's help(remember they sort of activated it before, but they didn't have the song) to fix everything. Of course, like 10 main characters are going to die first. Just wait and see.

[Shiokaze]

What is the name of the song that plays when the Suzushiro (Artai's batteship with Armitage in it) comes out from the sand in episode 24? Is it on Ost 1 or 2? Thank you for you help.

[kazekiri]

I can't wait to see the battle during the finale. Hopefully the Robes will be reactivated somehow for all the good guys, cause I want to see Natsuki fight some more.Irina is supposed to use the distraction to sneak in and fix the system.
Should be interesting to see Mai kick some ass too(she did say she was coming right?).She didn't say one way or the other but I suspect she'll drop in sooner or later. What I really want to see is Akane, though since she's in one place and Kazu got dragged off somewhere else I dunno how that's going to work out.
Of course, like 10 main characters are going to die first. Just wait and see.I'm betting the Meisters they just introduced us to over the past few eps will make up most of the death toll. Nina's a good bet, Tomoe's a given and Chie's screwed if she switches sides (the gem tesla-zaps her) and in even more trouble if she doesn't since we know Nagi's forces are going down. It doesn't look too good for the cyborgs either, though Reito's probably getting a free pass to the end credits. Anyone else have morbid predictions of who's not going to make it?
What is the name of the song that plays when the Suzushiro (Artai's batteship with Armitage in it) comes out from the sand in episode 24? Is it on Ost 1 or 2? Thank you for you help.Aires' ship actually, even Haruka could probably get that one right. :D Seriously though, it's called Sei Otome no Inori, track 24 of the 2nd OST.

[Yazakura]

Could anyone tell me the episode numbers for the following descriptions?

#1: When Eristen saves Nina from drowning in the pool.
#2: When Eristen saves Nina from Tomoe's acid.
#3: When Eristen insists she and Nina cuddle in Arika's absence and ultra glomps Nina.
#4: When Nina, Eristen and Arika talk about becoming Mei Stars under the stars together.

Thanks much for the help in advance!

[Tokkan]

#1: When Eristen saves Nina from drowning in the pool.

Episode 6

#2: When Eristen saves Nina from Tomoe's acid.

Never happened. She did, however, save Arika from corrosive amniotic fluid that Tomoe tried to drop on her head in episode 16.

#3: When Eristen insists she and Nina cuddle in Arika's absence and ultra glomps Nina.

Episode 14.

#4: When Nina, Eristen and Arika talk about becoming Mei Stars under the stars together.

Episode 16.

[Shiokaze]

Aires' ship actually, even Haruka could probably get that one right. :D Seriously though, it's called Sei Otome no Inori, track 24 of the 2nd OST.

Thanks you. Artai / Aires same difference.

[Prodigious]

Stupid question, but why didn't they change the ED? When the series took a clearly dark turn, they changed the OP to something which, at least to my ears, is a bit more gritty and less retardly happy go lucky. However, they still have the same ending song which I think is way too cheerful. For some reason it kills the mood for me every time I hear it. Lately the show has been ending with really powerful and dark cliffhangars, but then that stupid song starts playing and it just doesn't mesh well with the more recent undertones of the series.

[kj1980]

Stupid question, but why didn't they change the ED?

Because Kikuchi Mika and Koshimizu Ami are moe~.

Who knows? Keeping the same song for 2 or more kur (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=508232&postcount=30) isn't all that new.

[kazekiri]

Stupid question, but why didn't they change the ED?Possibly because that entails paying more money. They would have to write a new song, create the music to accompany it, find someone to sing it, make a new animation sequence to go along with it and pay for all of the above.
Lately the show has been ending with really powerful and dark cliffhangars, but then that stupid song starts playing and it just doesn't mesh well with the more recent undertones of the series.It's basically Mai-Hime in reverse. In MH, Kimi ga Sora datta was far too depressing for the early episodes but turned out perfect for the post-16 stuff.