Karin the Blood-Giving Vampire

[teh_suck]

Unless someone finds a way to restore the entire Karin thread, it looks like we'll need a new one.

[GHDpro]

Unfortunately we've not been very succesful in recovering threads from the Fansub Discussion section.

But... not to get off topic, by coincidence I just (minutes ago) finished the last ep,
and I must say Karin continues to be one of the most enjoyable series this season.

[teh_suck]

Since I was getting instant thread notifications before, I have an incomplete record of what happened in the thread in my Gmail account, but since it doesn't send another e-mail until you've read the thread again, it's not going to be complete. Plus there will be other issues, like many of the posts were made by people whose accounts probably don't exist any more.

[KaneDragon]

How about this Winner character? Blond hair, blue eyes, runs around with gun/sword, fights duels, has a huge chunk of meat on a stick for lunch ("How sophisticated!" they say... :heh: ). Silly Japanese... ;)

[Kamion]

I just loved Episode 7 xD
I laughed so hard at Winner's style and especially his accent :heh:
Can't wait for more Winner-kun (oh, and please bite Fumio again T_T)

They seem to have left out an whole arc (in spoilers just in case oO)
At least they didn't start preparing it yet

About Ren wanting to bite Fumio... In the Manga that started before Karin's effect wore off

Karinnn-sann!!! xD

[Ialdaboth]

Winner reminds me of Hamel from Hameln no violinhiki. Especially in his hunter garb :lol:

Well, so far Karin is still one of the most enjoyable series of this season for me too. I had doubts about the chara-designs, but I love the comedy and the older anime feeling this series has. I ended up enjoying it more than the manga, in fact.

If the manga comes out in the US (kudos for Tokyopop for their silly title, "Chibi vampire" ), then maybe the anime has some chances too.

[KaneDragon]

But it has to be asked: WTF is up with the opening for this series? :eyebrow: :heh:

Hah! Japan smells like soy sauce! Eat that! :p

[Kamion]

But it has to be asked: WTF is up with the opening? :eyebrow: :heh:

Dunno why they had to produce such a fanservice opening... I like the Song though xD

But fortunately there's no such fanservice in the Series up until now :)

[FrostyIsShibby]

Episode 7 was pretty funny, I thought I was going to hate the "competition" but it was actually pretty funny.

How many episodes do you think this anime is going be?

[Ialdaboth]

How many episodes do you think this anime is going be?

26, hopefully. :)


Edit : Anime news Network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5949) says 24. :D

[KaneDragon]

AnimeNfo (http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1818,ozlpiz,karin.html) says there'll be 24... and that's what the Episode Number thread stickied above says.

But fortunately there's no such fanservice in the Series up until now :)
Well, there was Winner's dream sequence...

[mangatron]

Well, there was Winner's dream sequence...


Yeah, i was going to say that. Maybe our firsty taste lol :heh:

[Kensuke]

Lol, there is a lot of flawed people in this anime, main character is a vampire that can't suck blood and now there is a bishounen vampire hunter who is afraid of blood. And how he says Karinnn-sannn is annoying and hilarious in the same time.

Anju laughing was cutest thing I have seen in ages. :heh:

[NightWish]

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2005-12-02, 13:46
Furudanuki

Quote:
Originally Posted by mytrivo
I saw ep 4 last night and loved it. I haven't read the manga. I'm really liking how this is developing and I hope it keeps getting better. My question after this episode is:
Did Usui pass Anju's test? My opinion would be yes.



Response and conjecture - spoiler only needed for those who have not seen episode #4.

Spoiler:

I think he passed Anju's part of the test: acceptance of Karin as a vampire, discretion, loyalty and courage. But I also think that there will be at least one more part of the test. My guess is that the blacked out character in the OP is going to be some sort of vampire stud who is called in by brother/parents/other vampire authority figure for the express purpose of seducing Karin away from Usui. Somehow I can't picture Karin's mom being happy that she is showing so much interest in a human. "Karin, you half-wit! Grow up and stop playing with your food!"
BTW - I haven't seen any of the manga either, so I may be charging off in the wrong direction here. If so, I humbly request that those who have please be gentle in your correction



Quote:
Originally Posted by mytrivo
Furudanuki: Love your imagination! I had a few thoughts when Anju did that too, but mine were nowhere near as grand as yours!

Thank you for the compliment!

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2005-12-02, 14:15
teh_suck

Spoiler for conjucture re: figure in black:

Having not read ahead, I have to think he's a vampire hunter.

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2005-12-02, 14:36
Kaoru Chujo[/B]
Originally Posted by Vexx
Myopius just made me realize what makes Karin stand out for me ... she's completely unrestrained in her emotions unlike so many characters who just freeze up or get tense.... Karin's school friend Maki makes a great if somewhat confused commentator on the situations as well.

Great points. As usual, I want to emphasize how important the voice actress is in this. The script, animation and director set it up, but the voice actress sells it. The 18-year-old lead in her first role, Yahagi Sayuri, is just doing a fantastic job.
And Takahashi Mikako is doing such a good job with Maki, as she did with Ayu in H&C, that she is the lead in a new short series starting next month, Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora (Looking Up at the Half Moon).

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2005-12-02, 20:01
mangatron

Hm,...was there a talk about Karin's parents? lol they're quite a pair those two, nothing better than seeing the woman slap her man err I mean nothing better than getting hit by a pretty girl!

Spoiler for episode 5:


No wait, that was supposed to be spoilerized lol, because it's this ep where she slaps him silly and beats the, well anyways, despite all the laughs and nosebleeds episode 5 gave me, the most important part of all.....

OMG NEXT EP PREVIEW KARIN SEKUSHII AND KAWAII AHA OH NO SHE TOOK OFF HER STOCKING LOL I CAN'T TAKE IT AHAHAHA I SO WANNA NOSEBLEED AAAH KARIN GIMME MORE ROFL

By the way, Karin meets Usui Oka-san this ep boy what a hilariously energetic woman she is...



*forgive this over-nosebleeding male*

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2005-12-02, 22:28
Genesisbreed

Well i can't seem to find Ep. 5 anywhere yet, but I am probably at a disadvantage since I have no clue what so ever on how to use IRC. I did find an site that has sceen captures from the episode 5 that i will share with you all. www.lolitron.org
Helped give me a little bit of a fix to last till we get a torrent, hopefully sometime in the next couple days

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2005-12-03, 10:28
Conan-san

Quote:
Originally Posted by mangatron
Hm,...was there a talk about Karin's parents? lol they're quite a pair those two, nothing better than seeing the woman slap her man err I mean nothing better than getting hit by a pretty girl!:
Even though, that woman would more than likely dominate the world with that slipper of hers.
line of episode 5:
Spoiler:

Ushi: She should be weak to Garlec and Sunight. Not to mention the fact that a steak though the heart would kill her
Henery: A steake?! How barbaric!.
Karin's Mother (Names gone): A steake to the heart would kill anyone.

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2005-12-03, 13:07
IMSabbel

stake man, stake.
Even buffy had a gag about a that mix-up

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2005-12-03, 15:31
Muir Woods

I just have to say, post Karin injected Fumio Kenta (Usui's mom) is awesome. Young, cute, bright, hardworking, and understanding. If I had a mom like her in my younger years, I would've been a good little boy (perhaps develop a bit of a mazacon). Even in her normal state, sans the "bright" attribute, I'm still very attracted to her. It pains me a bit for me to see such an endearing and earnest female still in such poverty and misery. She just brings out the evolutionary male in me and makes me want to support her and protect her. If I was Usui I would prefer to have her stay that happy way, but I guess Usui misses his regular mom of which he grew up with and got accustomed to. I suppose that's understandable. Needless to say, Fumio is my favorite character in the show, over Karin. I hope to see continued screentime for Fumio in future episodes.
I've been casually watching this show. After five episodes, must say I like it. Karin excels at what it tries to do, being a romance comedy with a vampire twist to keep it a bit more novel and interesting. Great 3rd tier show in my selection, and perhaps good enough to be in the secondary category. One thing's for sure, it's firm on my list of animes to watch to the finish.

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2005-12-03, 17:11
Myopius

Some nice foreshadowing in episode 5... It was kinda confusing at times, maybe could've used a bit more Karin. But, still enjoyable! :-)

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2005-12-03, 17:14
Kamion

Well... it seems that some (side-)stories will be left out, because the foundation for those would have been in episode 4 and 5 ^^;
But I don't really care, as I like the main storyline more

Episode 5 was cute. Usui's mother was just great
Gutsu! Gutsu!

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2005-12-03, 18:54
Kaoru Chujo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muir Woods
I just have to say, post Karin injected Fumio Kenta (Usui's mom) is awesome....
I hate to keep repeating myself, but I have to mention that she is voiced by the great 37-year-old veteran seiyuu Hisakawa Aya (Sailor Mercury, Skuld, Haruko in Air, etc., etc.).
As for which tier this anime fits in, ParaKiss is the only series on now that I personally look forward to more.

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2005-11-27, 04:23
Sailor Enlil

Well, I searched some information and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire
Also, I remember that in one Dracula film, starring Christopher Lee, those who he was chasing escaped over icy lake and ultimately he met his fate by drowning.


Is that "Dracula: Prince of Darkness"? I saw the ending of thatSpoiler for Dracula: Prince of Darkness ending :Dracula was standing on something that was above water (a sheet of ice?) and one of the townspeople, using a shotgun, fired several rounds around Dracula so that he would slip through and fall into the water, then he drowned.
For Love and Justice, I am Sailor Enlil!
In the name of Lord Enlil, I shall punish you!


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2005-11-27, 04:40
Kamui4356

Hmm, after reading this thread, I'm kind of glad I haven't read the manga yet. That'll most likely change when the english volumes come out, even if tokyopop is changing the name...

Anyway, ep 4 was great, and the first one I rewatched. Karin is shaping up to be one of my favorite anime of the season. The part with Usui following Karin around trying to determine if she was a vampire really sold me on the series. The first epsiode was a bit disappointing, and the second and third, while progressivly better, didn't really stand out. Amazing what one episode can do.

As to the vampires and water thing, I'm kind of suprised so few people have heard of it. It was mentioned in Dracula (the actual novel by Bram Stoker). Then again, a lot of the lore about vampires has changed since the novel was written.

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2005-11-27, 04:47
potatochobit

well, i went to the suncoast video store and there was already another manga called karin released. maybe thats why the name change?

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2005-11-27, 04:49
teh_suck

Yes, Tokyopop's renaming of the manga to 'Chibi Vampire' was probably to avoid confusion with Koge Donbo's 'Kami-chama Karin'.
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2005-11-27, 04:53
Kamui4356

Quote:
Originally Posted by potatochobit
well, i went to the suncoast video store and there was already another manga called karin released. maybe thats why the name change?

Yeah, I think you're right about that, but Chibi Vampire? They could have just called it Karin, the Blood Giving Vampire, like the title of this thread. Chibi Vampire just doesn't sound right... Well, as long as they don't do anything else to it, I won't have a problem.

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2005-11-27, 05:02
Kensuke

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor Enlil

Is that "Dracula: Prince of Darkness"? I saw the ending of that

Spoiler for Dracula: Prince of Darkness ending :Dracula was standing on something that was above water (a sheet of ice?) and one of the townspeople, using a shotgun, fired several rounds around Dracula so that he would slip through and fall into the water, then he drowned.

Sound familiar, but I don't remember name of the movie. I saw it years ago.

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2005-11-27, 05:16
Sailor Enlil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kensuke
Sound familiar, but I don't remember name of the movie. I saw it years ago.Probably is Dracula Prince of Darkness because it starred Christopher Lee as Dracula
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059127/

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2005-11-27, 12:24
Kudo-kun

Quote:
Originally Posted by molitar

And on top of that we have 4 or 5 groups subbing it. Any opinions on who are doing good jobs on this one?

I think A-E probably has done a better job in the overall quality out of the others. The filesize is relatively small too (140MB). Good for cd/dvd backup.

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2005-11-27, 20:17
Furudanuki

Finally found time to watch episode #4 today, and this anime keeps moving higher on my "must download first" list. I have to say that Usui certainly comes across as very cool and collected in this episode. I would not have been too surprised if the scene in the park had ended a bit - ahh - differently.....

Spoiler :Cut to scene where Usui is walking Karin home while carrying Anju on his back. Usui thinks...
"Oh, isn't that sweet? Karin's little sister is nuzzling the back of my neck. She must be sleepy. It sort of tickles. Yeah, Karin's little sister. Karin's little vampire sister is... Nuzzling. My. Neck. AIEEEEEEEEE!"
Fade to large cloud of dust as Usui dumps Anju like a sack of rocks and sets a land speed record heading for home.

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2005-11-28, 00:18
mytrivo

I saw ep 4 last night and loved it. I haven't read the manga. I'm really liking how this is developing and I hope it keeps getting better. My question after this episode is:

Spoiler :Did Usui pass Anju's test? My opinion would be yes.

I'm finding that an appearance by Ren is an extra bonus for me! I think I'm going to be finding myself checking the torrent releases eagerly watching for the next Karin!

Furudanuki: Love your imagination! I had a few thoughts when Anju did that too, but mine were nowhere near as grand as yours!Should have done these lowest page first shouldn't I? oh well :heh: I figured the most recent posts would be most important / interesting.

[Kamui4356]

Thanks for the hard work Nightwish.:)

Anyway, getting to Karin itself, shouldn't winner be translated as weiner? Or is that wiener? :confused:

As for ep 7, quite enjoyable, as expected of this series. I doubt they can keep Weiner in the dark about Karin and her family forever, but at least he seems to be a rather incompetent vampire hunter.:heh:

[Kaoru Chujo]

...Should have done these lowest page first shouldn't I? oh well :heh: I figured the most recent posts would be most important / interesting. I agree with what you did. Personally, I have my options set so that recent posts appear at the top of each thread. I find that more convenient.

I do regret losing some posts by other people (kj1980, for example, in many threads), but a fresh start is always good. I started the original thread a few months ago and gave it the "blood-giving vampire" title, but the fresh start just called "Karin" didn't bother me at all. The title I used was my loose translation of the novel's title, and I just used it to give people a hint of what the anime would be about. Now that the show is in full swing, that's not so necessary.

And I have to say that I'm finding the anime really good, at least as good as I hoped it would be.

[Radiosity]

bishounen vampire hunter who is afraid of blood.

Aha! I was right in my diagnosis :D I mentioned that I thought he was a hunter back shortly after ep6 was released. Though he just had to have something wrong with him as well, like the rest of the cast.

[Wandering_Youth]

Did Karin bite Winner when they were kids? The very first episode with the opening scene showed Karin biting someone and I'm guessing that might of been Winner.

[mangatron]

Did Karin bite Winner when they were kids? The very first episode with the opening scene showed Karin biting someone and I'm guessing that might of been Winner.

You know, you made me think something...

If that was Karin, that explains why he becomes a Vamp hunter because maybe he had that hate of blood condition because she bit him. So the fact are:

He has been in Japan before.
He hunts Vamps, maybe because
He is afraid of blood, maybe because
He met her before? In which she must have bit him, causing him to be afraid of blood because, remember, Karin gives it lol
He finds Karin attractive nonetheless


By the way, blushing Maki is Kawaiiii!!!! :heh:

[Radiosity]

Did Karin bite Winner when they were kids? The very first episode with the opening scene showed Karin biting someone and I'm guessing that might of been Winner.

How would that be possible? Vampires don't awaken to their abilities or 'bloodlust' until they're well into their teens, as is evidenced by Anju not yet hunting for blood. So Karin wouldn't have been able to bite if it was 'when they were kids'.

[teh_suck]

I originally thought it should be Wiener, but his vampire hunter ID says Winner. Neither is a particularly good first name, so unless it turns our that he's from Vienna I'll stick with what it says. It's not like BGE, where there's no way that could have been right.

[Cyz]

I got hook the first time I watched it. It's strange, Karin is the only one in the family that can go out in broad daylight, likes garlic, and the fact that she can't see at dark. Oh! and Anju is so cute!

[Kamui4356]

I originally thought it should be Wiener, but his vampire hunter ID says Winner. Neither is a particularly good first name, so unless it turns our that he's from Vienna I'll stick with what it says. It's not like BGE, where there's no way that could have been right.
Hmm, I missed that... :heh: Of course it's entirely possible the id was an engrish mistake. It wouldn't be the first time after all.;) Still, unless it's changed later on, I guess it is winner-kun.

[Furudanuki]

Well, the introduction of Winner was... interesting. I do hope they tone him down a bit - or a hell of a lot actually - in the next episode or two. Otherwise he's just too over the top for my tastes, and I get the feeling that I will be starting to detest him very soon. Great visuals and voicework for both Karin and Maki in this episode! Maki's blush at the end is just TOO cute. Winner, you swine, if you hurt Maki's feelings I hope Ren, Anju and Boogie-kun decide to pay you a little visit. :bash:

Lastly, out of morbid curiousity - In the real world, how long would Winner-kun be sitting in jail for bringing a loaded firearm onto a high school campus in Japan?

[Kaoru Chujo]

...Great visuals and voicework for both Karin and Maki in this episode!.... Agree completely.

Karin is voiced by 18-year-old Yahagi Sayuri, in her debut role. Birth of a star.

Maki is voiced by Takahashi Mikako (Ayu from Honey & Clover). See my current avatar and sig (edit: now changed). She has got a lot more work since H&C, and will be the lead in the short anime Hanbun no Tsuki, starting in January.

Yahagi Sayuri (voice actress for Karin):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/amorpsyche/yahagi_sayuri_a.jpg

[Cyz]

Karin's voice is really cute. It's probably one of the cutest voices I ever heard.

[Srin Tuar]

Well, the introduction of Winner was... interesting.


"Winner" was how the wrote it??:twitch:
I though it was "Weiner" or "Werner"....

Anyway, I hate the voice they gave him: Not that its a bad VA or anything,
its just that the "fake foreigner" accent doesnt really do anything for me. It
doesnt sound like a foreigner at all to my ears, just like a japanese person
intentionally mangling their speech.

It is possible for actors to put on a passable foreign accent in English.
(Its not uncommon to have an actor with little or no prior experience sound like
they have a french or russian accent) I wonder whats hard about sounding like
a native english speaker who learned japanese...

[SirHellsing420]

I just saw episode #7 recently too. Winner can be funny, but I'm inclined to agree with Furudanuki about him. All that yelling and macho stuff will get boring to me pretty quickly unless something changes soon, heh.

[Muir Woods]

Lol, there is a lot of flawed people in this anime, main character is a vampire that can't suck blood and now there is a bishounen vampire hunter who is afraid of blood.
Maybe it's not about flawed people, but of irony. I find this show highly ironic, and it is the reversal of expectations that makes this show interesting. This is the most enjoyable trait of the show for me. For example in episode 07, Karin's mom was narrating the scary tales of vampire hunters to the young Karin and Anju . I found the switch of traditional thought of evil vampires and benevolent and cool vampire hunters, to the seemingly positive portrayal of vampires and cruel vampire hunters in the anime very amusing. I grinned throughout that scene. The arrival of "Winner"-kun and his affiliation stirs up a bit more interest. Maki swayed by a crying man. Is she into sensitive and expressively emotional type of guys?

[Cyz]

Winner is a bit wierd...well actually he is. And I thought he's the calm version type of guys...but I guess I'm wrong. Appearance can be deceiving.

[Kempis Curious]

I don't like the new character, I'll probably call him Wiener forever. :D

I also thought this kind of character was unwelcome in Daa Daa Daa... and this kind of character totally killed Pita Ten for me. :( I wish they hadn't'a brought him on.

-k

curious

[Kamui4356]

"Winner" was how the wrote it??:twitch:
I though it was "Weiner" or "Werner"....
His vampire hunter license says Winner... Of course it also says, "The above mentioned person it is person that it is as independent vampire hunter," so the spelling might be a bit off. ;)

[KaneDragon]

How would that be possible? Vampires don't awaken to their abilities or 'bloodlust' until they're well into their teens, as is evidenced by Anju not yet hunting for blood. So Karin wouldn't have been able to bite if it was 'when they were kids'.
Anju's been talking about how her powers should awaken soon. It isn't well into their teens. Winner practically has to be the person Karin first bit. It was a few years ago... boy/Winner look similar... it would provide another connection and a slightly more rational explanation as to why Winner is attracted to Karin, sees her in his dreams, etc... Plus there's that sillouette of Karin biting the boy in the middle of episode 7 @ 12:49.

[Radiosity]

Ah, well, haven't got round to watching ep7 yet, so my comments were based on what I knew from eps 1-6. Should really watch ep7 soon :o And, how old is Anju supposed to be then? Anime always tends to be misleading with ages (girls tend to look older than they really are).

[Itachikun]

The way Karin say "Hazukashi" sounds sooooo cute~~~~:love::love:
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[Kamion]

Winner is a bit wierd...well actually he is. And I thought he's the calm version type of guys...but I guess I'm wrong. Appearance can be deceiving.

Yes he IS weird, especially his accent!
I'm SO loving it xD

[Trax]

Winner is a wiener. And so far, he doesn't even seem to be a capable vampire hunter to spice up the plot. I mean come on, faint at the sight of blood? Pathetic.

[Radiosity]

Winner (or Weiner) kinda irritated me. A lot in fact. OTT characters in that particular style just don't do it for me. Hopefully he won't be such a dick in the next episode and onwards.

[Pellissier]

Well, Karin is one of the few series I'm up to. Usually I watch them only once finished, but if they're particularly intriguing I do follow them throughout the weeks (how painful :p )

Jumping on episode 7, I agree with people saying this Winner is a bit annoying, I didn't like him much. Fortunately he's funny to watch.
And also, I really like Karin's characterization and dubbing more and more every week, her seiyuu is doing great, I read she's a new entry, glad to hear.

Anyway.. topic moment of the episode.. Anju laughing .. she's just so cute. I hope she'll have the space she deserves, on the show :)

[nite0]

I think the whole point is that he's supposed to be incredibly annoying but entertaining to watch.

[Radiosity]

That's the problem, I didn't find him particularly entertaining either. Sure, any series can benefit from some tension between characters whose interests cross (two guys after one girl in this case, although Usui isn't even 'after' her yet and is just fulfilling the promise he made), but I think the tension has been handled badly by introducing a character such as Winner.

I dunno, maybe he'll grow on me in future episodes if he is toned down a bit, but it's unlikely if he stays as is though.

[Ilpalazzo-sama]

Well, Karin is one of the few series I'm up to. Usually I watch them only once finished, but if they're particularly intriguing I do follow them throughout the weeks (how painful :p )

Jumping on episode 7, I agree with people saying this Winner is a bit annoying, I didn't like him much. Fortunately he's funny to watch.
And also, I really like Karin's characterization and dubbing more and more every week, her seiyuu is doing great, I read she's a new entry, glad to hear.

Anyway.. topic moment of the episode.. Anju laughing .. she's just so cute. I hope she'll have the space she deserves, on the show :)
Winner was not funny IMO, he was more like..."lame".

[nite0]

Yeah, I guess I can agree with that, I didn't particularly like him either.

[misakichii]

Did Karin bite Winner when they were kids? The very first episode with the opening scene showed Karin biting someone and I'm guessing that might of been Winner.

i have the same question to ask. it would be kinda neat if winner was the boy karin bite, don't you think? it's a good thing that winner came in because i just love to see the competition between usi-kun and winner. plus there's something that just catches my attention, you know something interesting might just happen between maki and winner.

[KaneDragon]

Yes, he almost certainly is, as I said in my last spoiler box (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=26339&page=2#34)...

[Kamui4356]

I can see why a lot of people think it was weiner Karin first bit, but it really doesn't make sense, unless he's changed a lot since then. After all, Karin is attracted to the blood of unhappy, depressed, people cursed with misfortune. Not exactly words that would discribe weiner. ;)

Now I'm not saying it's impossible, as weiner could have been quite unhappy that he was leaving Japan, but it just seems unlikely. Plus, I don't think that's the kind of thing Karin would forget.

[KaneDragon]

Sure she can forget; that was a while back, there was a lot going on back then, and who would think she'd meet up with him again like this (and he has changed)? And sure, she's attracted to unhappy people... now. But back then was her first time, when she was suddenly coming into the bloodlust, so she was just biting whoever was closest. They didn't discover her preference until the present action (remember from the first episode, she hadn't experienced the attraction to unhappiness before she met Usui).

As I talked about in the post linked above.

[misakichii]

Winner was not funny IMO, he was more like..."lame".

that's true but i like him because he brings a competition between him and
usi-kun which truly grabs my attention.

i hope that winner's love for karin will bring karin and usi-kun closer.

also i wonder if karin is ever gonna bite usi.

plus something interesting might just happen between maki and winner.

[Radiosity]

also i wonder if karin is ever gonna bite usi.

Whoa... that could lead to some totally out of this world secks :D

[SirHellsing420]

Now I'm not saying it's impossible, as weiner could have been quite unhappy that he was leaving Japan, but it just seems unlikely. Plus, I don't think that's the kind of thing Karin would forget.

On that note maybe it's possible that Winner/Weiner became unhappy that he was leaving Japan and wouldn't get to see Karin anymore. His sudden unhappiness may have made Karin bite him, and having his true love bite him on the neck like that may have lead Winner to have his fear of blood.

Of course this is all assuming that is Winner in the flashback of the first episode. :heh:

[Cyz]

Anju...I like Anju :) Anybody seen her bedroom? It's full of creepy Boogie (Bgle in other version) dolls in it. Anyway, all in all, she's the quiet type in the family.

[Riker]

also i wonder if karin is ever gonna bite usi.

I wonder...

A hyper Fumio(Kenta's mom) is cute.
A hyper Kenta... well if you want a hyper male lead there's already Winner.

Two hyper male character going at each other kinda spoils the show, no? :x

[Radiosity]

Two hyper male character going at each other kinda spoils the show, no? :x

Hmm, true. Note to Karin: Don't bite Usui.

Unrelated note... Riker... Avatar... Hypnotizing...

[Cyz]

You know, I was wondering why Fumio keeps getting harrassed. Don't her bosses know that she's married and had a son? I guess it doesn't matter, in a way, she doesn't look like a mom either.

[Radiosity]

Fumio + Ama, two hottest mums currently in anime being aired :D

[aliensporebomb]

Okay: Sinclair Winner - utterly ridiculous. He's dressed up like a
metrosexual Neo from the Matrix series and women are falling all
over themselves just to get any attention from this guy.

Challenges our hero Usui to a duel of all things.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that he was the
guy that was bit in the first episode. But he's so egregious - he's not
who our heroine should end up with and I think she's already avoiding
him.

But what next? Is he going to escalate his attentions?

Loved Anju's brief foray into (quiet) laughing and Boogie-Kun
freaking out completely:
"Are you trying to make me laugh myself to death?"

Then Usui even laughs at Karin and her friend even giggles
"Even Karin has a boyfriend". Poor girl doesn't quite get the
respect you think she could command but I'm sure she'll get
her comeuppance.

My guess? If "Big W" (as I'm calling Winner-Kun) tries to pull
something questionable I think Ren will pay him a little visit and
make him pee his pants with fright.

[Burner of Anime]

You know, I was wondering why Fumio keeps getting harrassed. Don't her bosses know that she's married and had a son? I guess it doesn't matter, in a way, she doesn't look like a mom either.

Fumio is a widow, a young mom and a classic housewife. All 3 factors together are magnets for over the hill, middle aged men looking for an instant family :heh:

[Aristophanes]

Anju=Eve(black cat)? They seem to be very similar....

[Kamion]

I can see why a lot of people think it was weiner Karin first bit, but it really doesn't make sense, unless he's changed a lot since then. After all, Karin is attracted to the blood of unhappy, depressed, people cursed with misfortune. Not exactly words that would discribe weiner. ;)

Maybe he was, but after being bitten people get energized for some time.
Ofc that's over now, but he dreams of Karin. Maybe the first bite a vampire gives is something special oO
I just think he changed. Maybe those dreams changed him to be a more energetic person. Dunno

I just think there's more behind Winner... if there's not, well that'd be boring D:

[NoSanninWa]

Can anyone explain to me why a.f.k. subtitles the name of Anju's doll as Bge? That doesn't even have enough vowels to count as a pronouncable word, so I'm sure they must have a reason for doing something so odd. I'd just like to know what that reason is.

[Nvis]

I noticed that too. Maybe that's what they indeed pronounce it.

[teh_suck]

Can anyone explain to me why a.f.k. subtitles the name of Anju's doll as Bge? That doesn't even have enough vowels to count as a pronouncable word, so I'm sure they must have a reason for doing something so odd. I'd just like to know what that reason is.
The eyecatch of the first episode spells it BGE. It also spells the mother's name Caren, which seems to me like someone confused a katakana 'ra' for a 'n'. As I say (a lot lately, it seems), nothing wrong is official. (The engrishy nature of the vampire hunter's license is not grounds to invalidate its spelling of Winner, since as above noted, Wiener isn't any better in terms of being a given name, especially for someone whose family name is Sinclair, and also because the W in Wiener would correctly be pronounced as a V.)

[NoSanninWa]

The eyecatch of the first episode spells it BGE. It also spells the mother's name Caren, which seems to me like someone confused a katakana 'ra' for a 'n'. As I say (a lot lately, it seems), nothing wrong is official.
If they are copying the spelling of the eyecatch, then why aren't they copying the spelling for Caren also, instead of calling her Carera? Aren't both of these equally fallacious?

[Vexx]

<sigh> speed vs quality .....
Am I going to have to download all the groups to figure out which one to keep like I did for shuffle?

(I applaud "we suck's" policy, though I think the JP region pricing is pretty ridiculous so I have to pick and choose, as in I don't think they'll ever license this one so I'll go ahead and buy it --- I'll buy R1 collections in a heartbeat though.)

[NoSanninWa]

Only 4 groups still seem to be subbing this: afk, Anime-Empire , Anime-Shrine and We Suck. None of the other groups have released an episode in quite some time and I don't know if they intend to keep subbing it.

Three of these groups are quite fast (afk, Anime-Shrine and We Suck), always releasing within a few days of each other. So you don't have to choose speed vs. quality if you like one of them. Only Anime-Empire takes longer than a few days to sub and I don't really think that their quality is better.

I'm following afk, but honestly We Suck is also darn good. (They suck about as much as Karin does. ;))

If you want to see some screenies to compare these 4 groups, take a look at u1tima (http://ultima.hafio.info/Fansubs/Karin/Karin-2.php).

[Kaoru Chujo]

In the manga, Karin's mom is called "Maaka Karera," which I think might be "Carrera Marker" if you turned it into a real Western name. Her husband is "Henry Marker." But the kanji used for "Maaka" mean something like "True Red" in Japanese, relating it to blood, so it really is a name invented by the Japanese mangaka (KAGESAKI Yuna).

Anju's familiar is called "Bugii-kun," which is probably best transliterated "Boogie."

The wiener doesn't appear in the manga. He is from the novel. I think the teacher calls him "Uiina Sinkurea." I vote for Wiener Sinclair, although his vampire-hunter card does say "Winner."

Anju is a lot more together than Eve from Black Cat. She is not so much the ignorant victim of events as the knowing person who controls events. But they are similarly powerful.

[Srin Tuar]

In the manga, Karin's mom is called "Maaka Karera," which I think might be "Carrera Marker" if you turned it into a real Western name. Her husband is "Henry Marker." But the kanji used for "Maaka" mean something like "True Red" in Japanese, relating it to blood, so it really is a name invented by the Japanese mangaka (KAGESAKI Yuna).

Anju's familiar is called "Bugii-kun," which is probably best transliterated "Boogie."

The wiener doesn't appear in the manga. He is from the novel. I think the teacher calls him "Uiina Sinkurea." I vote for Wiener Sinclair, although his vampire-hunter card does say "Winner."


Excellent summary :)

Conceding to the spelling chosen by the animators and or manga-ka is usually a mistake, imo.

[teh_suck]

Winner FTW! (http://www.slate.com/id/2116449/)

Okay, this is pretty anecdotal evidence, but you'll find a bunch of given names that mean winner--a couple here (http://www.babynamesworld.com/browse_by_f_3.html), a couple here (http://www.baby-names-meanings.com/firstnames/boysj-z.html)... The Winner vs. Wiener debate continues. Frankly, my money's on Winner... something about that name makes me think it'll come out on top. :)

[KaneDragon]

The wiener doesn't appear in the manga. He is from the novel. I think the teacher calls him "Uiina Sinkurea." I vote for Wiener Sinclair, although his vampire-hunter card does say "Winner."
So the anime has been skewed from the manga from the very beginning? Great... :mad:

Where does the novel fit in?

[Riker]

So the anime has been skewed from the manga from the very beginning? Great... :mad:

Where does the novel fit in?

Actually, the anime followed the manga vol 1 & 2 closely, after which it started to add original content (Winner).

I only have manga vol 1 & 2, so I can't say much for the other volumes, but I read that the love hotel arc was cut from the anime.

[KaneDragon]

Yeah, I know Winner didn't come until later; I was just thinking about the extra scene thrown in at the beginning of the first episode. I could be wrong.

Love hotel arc... um... hmm? *gets*

But what is this novel? An alternate story, or optional story line that fits with the rest?...

[Zeffy]

I remember reading about the novel in some Karin scanlations.. Supposedly it's more on the mystery side and more romantic like according to the side comics.

I do know of one reference to the novel in the manga on the first page of chapter 14 in volume 3, but I'm not sure if that was actually there or if it was a scanlation note.

The panel talked about Karin being in a financial pinch in July due to her wallet being stoled in the second volume 9part of the Love-Hotel arc) and her bag was burnt in novel 2.

I'm guessing that they might of decided to delay the love-hotel arc in the manga and opt for some of the novel material for now.

[Yaoi_Pocky]

Looks like WOWOW's official Karin web site (http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/karin/) suffers some internal inconsistencies as to how to name Karin's liar's-blood-loving Mom...

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9597/caren6fr.th.png (http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=caren6fr.png)
From Staff/Cast (スタッフ・キャスト) page

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/940/carrera3yr.png (http://imageshack.us)
From Characters (キャラクター) page

Kadokawa's Karin page (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/karin/index.php?cnts=staff), however, claims it's Carrera. So I guess it's Carrera by majority decision...

[ultrataro]

Never say never, I'd say this show is a prime candidate for liscening if the price is right. I do agree that Japan DVD pricing really hurts, how do fans in Japan afford it? Anyway, girl vampire show with a little twist? Sounds like it would peak some interest in this market.


(I applaud "we suck's" policy, though I think the JP region pricing is pretty ridiculous so I have to pick and choose, as in I don't think they'll ever license this one so I'll go ahead and buy it --- I'll buy R1 collections in a heartbeat though.)

[aliensporebomb]

Another thought:
Anju, young as she is seems to exude an other-worldly knowledge
and intelligence about everything to the point where even her mother
and father are forced to include her on their discussions regarding her
older sister. I find this very interesting that Anju knew she could trust
Usui and indeed I suspect there's a lot more to Anju than we've been
allowed to see so far. Even Ren seems to defer to her in some respect.

I suppose they have to because thus far she's been the only one of
them who could assist Karin during daylight hours in limited
circumstances.

Very cool character.

[Cyz]

Fumio is a widow, a young mom and a classic housewife. All 3 factors together are magnets for over the hill, middle aged men looking for an instant family :heh:

I guess that's why she was called "The Devil Lady That Plagues Middle Age Men" as it says in episode 2 I think :p

[ZippyDSM]

I dont want to sound like Bill Oriley but I ahve a question aobut A.F.K's sub of eo 7 where the girl in the class says "like,I'd toaly tap that"
did she realy say that or is that a pop culture slip?
After watchign the honky tonk dabonkadonk video seeing pop culture "out of context" is scary 0-o *rolls around suxing his thumb from the mental scars of the evil contry music video*

[Owaranai Destiny]

Another thought:
Anju, young as she is seems to exude an other-worldly knowledge
and intelligence about everything to the point where even her mother
and father are forced to include her on their discussions regarding her
older sister. I find this very interesting that Anju knew she could trust
Usui and indeed I suspect there's a lot more to Anju than we've been
allowed to see so far. Even Ren seems to defer to her in some respect.

I suppose they have to because thus far she's been the only one of
them who could assist Karin during daylight hours in limited
circumstances.

Very cool character.

She would have stolen the show more than several times already if she had a bigger role in this.;)

[NoSanninWa]

I dont want to sound like Bill Oriley but I ahve a question aobut A.F.K's sub of eo 7 where the girl in the class says "like,I'd toaly tap that"
did she realy say that or is that a pop culture slip?
Let's just call it an editing decision and leave it like that. Of course she didn't say "Like, I'd totally tap that" since those words are English and she spoke Japanese. What they did was to translate a Japanese colloquial expression into an equivalent English colloquial expression.

"Like, I'd totally tap that" is what she might have said if she spoke English.

[Srin Tuar]

"Like, I'd totally tap that" is what she might have said if she spoke English.

Hrm, except thats not really a female expression. At least Ive never heard it
spoken by one.

[Radiosity]

... the context is wrong. 'Tap' would generally be used to mean taking money from or otherwise extort something from someone (as in tapping an oil source or so). So, it kind of comes across as her saying that she'd take him for everything he's got (that might be the case of course, not all girls are nice ;) ).

We know what she probably meant though, so I guess it's all good in the end :)

[Catgirls]

Hrm, except thats not really a female expression. At least Ive never heard it
spoken by one.I have to agree.

It's not really a female expression. I believe its urban origination comes from the expression "tap a keg" (keg of beer) ... thusly, it's a very phallic expression. "I'd tap that..." is to say you'd "insert (thrust) something into something" … I often hear men say "I’d tap that ***." in meetings I sometimes attend (against my will).

I do think it was a bit of pop culture latitude taken by the translator and it’s out of place (gender specific). Unless a girl here can honestly say they use "I’d tap that" when eyeing someone they desire...which is possible because in its most liberal interpretation, "tap" can be a generic genderless "I'd like to have sex with _________" colloquialism.

[Radiosity]

"I'd tap that..." is to say you'd "insert (thrust) something into something"

Mmm... that's certainly another interpretation. I'd agree that either way it's not really a suitable expression for that girl to be saying though.

[NoSanninWa]

Yeah, bad choice of colloqialism. We can all agree with that. Somebody stone their editor.

Now please let it rest and give them credit for at least trying. After all... they are doing this as volunteer labor in the faint hope that they might possibly make someone happy with their fansub. If you don't like it, then don't download it. Blah, blah, blah...

[Radiosity]

/me throws a stone at the editor, but gently.

Anyway, I'm sticking with afk, thanks. That's about the only thing I've actually found to crit in any way, otherwise it's spot on and I'm enjoying their subs :)

[Srin Tuar]

Yeah, bad choice of colloqialism. We can all agree with that. Somebody stone their editor.

Now please let it rest and give them credit for at least trying. After all... they are doing this as volunteer labor in the faint hope that they might possibly make someone happy with their fansub. If you don't like it, then don't download it. Blah, blah, blah...

Hehe, have you ever heard of the "uncanny valley"?

Things that are almost but not quite perfect inevitably get the most complaints.

So take it as high praise :p

[Catgirls]

Yeah, bad choice of colloqialism. We can all agree with that. Somebody stone their editor.

Now please let it rest and give them credit for at least trying. After all... they are doing this as volunteer labor in the faint hope that they might possibly make someone happy with their fansub. If you don't like it, then don't download it. Blah, blah, blah...Sorry...I wasn't picking on anyone. I'm enjoying the work as well and appreciate the effort. No ill will meant if anyone took offense.

[Zeffy]

Episode 8 caps: http://dat.2chan.net/18/res/2018749.htm

This episode is going to scare me.. Dang Weiner Dancers
http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/11352651121984fa4.gif

[KaneDragon]

Annoying bishie fan club? Noooo.... ;_;

Better looking than Yuki's... but the outfits... >_<

[mangatron]

Rofl episode 8.....making this series all the more enjoyable :heh:

I'd like to note some important things, first, I'd say it's official now that Maki likes Winner, and also, we get to see Karin more aware of the depression aura's. Maki also seems to appropriate the Kenta x Karin relationship, I'd say so that she can get Winner lol.

Also, 8 episodes already and I cannot get enough of Karin, my gosh she's just TOOO FREEEKIN KAWAIII ROFL :heh: the voice....I tell you the voice is ringing in my ears 24/7, even when I sleep lol....

So while I'd like to note the important parts, I'm no spoilerific person so on to the comedious nosebleeds :heh: This ep is just too hilarious, I mean, hey we see Winner being a Vamp hunter and all, and yet he couldn't detect Karin's dad or her brother, so at school, I thought it couldn't get any more hilarious, Karin gets the blood transfusion feeling and that sparks Winner to find the Vamp responsible. He get's the help of some students, much to the outrage of the Teacher, but it's not her time to get upset now, so lay some traps to catch the Vamp. Now, as cute as Karin get's, as cute as she gets clumsy as well :heh: she plays on a string that activates such an old fashinable alarm system, that gets Team Winner to investigate. Run, Usui, run! :heh: don't forget Karin :heh: Now enter the more hilarious side of this ep: there are traps, sepcifically aimed to deter Vampires. Of course, as previously seen in a previous episode, Karin is un-fased by cross's, Garlic and water :heh: But Usui seems quite the opposite. Lol I like the 3 teacher squad, rofl....and the scene in the artroom was crazy, using the statues to definate Usui and Karin :heh: that also sparks Kenta with the idea of using red paint to trick Team Winner lol....so after setting the paint trap Karin accidentaly activates that same old fashioned alarm, this time with the teacher present. Now I've got to get her name, she looks pretty...lol...by the way, I forgot to note Winner with glasses is hilarious, and to think it was the sight of blood, not it's existance....anyways, Usui and Karin hide out in a locker, and of course, the tight space has Karin get that blood transfusion feeling again lol and glorifying Usui with it. But, the noise gets the attention of Team Winner, and Usui runs out of the locker with Karin in hand. Now the teacher seems to be the only one to know the paint trick, of course letting Winner know of the consequences lol....After scene further fuels the Maki x Winner relationship. On my blog, I discuss some important things I noted in this episode, feel free to check it out here (http://www.hobbyfanatics.com/index.php?automodule=blog&cmd=showblog&blogid=32&st=).

Arrr, I wish they show next ep sequences for the previews, just voice only makes me wanna see what next ep is, not just think about it :heh:

[ZippyDSM]

Sorry sorry AKF is doign a great job overall its jsut soemtimes pop culture can scar me so 0-o *L* I dont mind so much when its in that kinda setting but..eh....my brain is fried >< *L*

[Cyz]

I wonder what would happen to Karin and Kenta in the near future.

[Lambda]

Whenever Winner is on screen, I think of Excel Saga. Though with Excel Saga being one of my favourite anime comedies, that isn't exactly a problem.

[Kaoru Chujo]

There's a "Yahagi Sayuri support thread (http://anime.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/voiceactor/1132081760/l50)" on 2ch. One post linked to an interview (http://animenews.blog4.fc2.com/blog-entry-289.html) done just as she was beginning recording on Karin.

Here is a rough translation:

You're just about to start recording Karin. How do you feel?

Yahagi Sayuri (YS): Umm, half happy and half nervous.

What were your feelings when you were given the role?

YS: “No way!!!” (laughs) I thought they were kidding me. Then during a call from the agency explaining things, I began to realize: “Oh, it's really true.” At first, it didn't feel real at all.

Tell us about the character Karin.

YS: Karin is a “blood-giving vampire,” but she's also a shy ordinary girl. Her emotions really came out in the original manga when I read it. You honestly just wanted to help her because she seemed so cute and vulnerable.

Do you have anything in common with Karin?

YS: Karin is clumsy, and I'm also a bit clumsy....(laughs) Sometimes I fall over for no reason at all. And in general I'm a pretty happy person.

And are there ways in which you're definitely not like her?

YH: Well, I don't bite people (laughs)! And I've noticed how nice Karin is to people. That isn't so much something where I'm not like her as something in her that I'd like to imitate.

Karin is your debut role. What made you want to be a voice actress?

YH: Because of my high voice, in elementary school my friends called me “Burikko” (kiddy-girl, child-like woman). It was really mortifying. But I thought: “Someday I'll get back at you.” It was in my second year of middle school (grade 8) that I first learned there was such a job as “voice actress” and wondered if I might be able to make use of the voice I had such a complex about. That challenge was my impetus to becoming a voice actress. Up until then, because I liked drawing, I wanted to be a mangaka.

A mangaka! So you liked manga and anime even then?

YH: I especially loved Sailor Moon. We used to play Sailor Moon all the time. I had no idea at all that one day I would become a voice actress myself (laughs).

What kind of voice actress do you want to become?

YH: I want to be someone who never betrays the people who watch something I do, a voice actress about whom they can say: “Yahagi Sayuri is really good in this role.”

Finally, do you have anything you want to say to people?

YH: I'm going to do my utmost to get closer and closer to Karin's feelings. I want to do everything I can to have Karin and I grow up together. Please give your support to “Karin”, everyone.

[Tiamat]

Okay so the new bishie hotties :love: name is Weiner or Winner? Haven't gotten the seventh ep yet. But ooh new bishie to add to my list along with Ren, lol. :D

[misakichii]

i just watched episode 8 last night before watching the last episode of hyd. well things are getting pretty hot in karin. i really thought that this time karin will finally bite usui. but that didn't happen. in episode 8 where karin and usui hid in the locker, it really made me thought that karin will finally bit usui. but sadly that didn't happen. but something else happened. something really hot happened to them. that is when they were in the locker karin...usui... they... they...ahhhh...well you'll just have to find that out for yourself. i don't want to ruin it for you. not anymore than i alreadly have.

[PsychItsMike]

Yea i thought karin was gonna bit usui too and was hoping for it so he'd be happy for once. This seems to be more of a comedy than anything else which i really dont mind :) cant wait till ep 9!

[Guido]

Winner-kun rich boy, poshy, Engrish accent gets more remarked as episode passes by; call it his trademark.


Hints for a future-would-be Maki X Winner relationship, though if Winner-kun successfully remembers her name.
She took pity on him when Karin interrupted the duel and ran away with Usui in the previous episode, and gets smitten everytime that Winner said something encouraging in episode eight.

Of course, the students wanted to get the inside scoop about Karin and Usui likely hanging together, that's why they acted to follow Winner farfetch'd story about the vampire in the school.

Winner is the most bumbling, idiot for a vampire hunter. He couldn't detect the vampire's presence of both Ren and Henry, passing by right in front of Ren's nose and not feeling any weird vibes about Henry.

By the way, if you ask why the cross did not burn Henry was because Karin explained that vampires are atheists, but like to play with the vampire hunter's mind that they are weak against them.
Why vampires would want to do that, I don't know?

Hidden in the closet was a classic, and I was witnessing how does Karin's increase of her blood makes her to act gradually on instinct, which in turn makes her to behave feral and possibly horny.
Why fighting against instinct Karin-chan? You should had given in, and bite Usui when you had the chance to do so.


Still, I'm concerned about Anju's silent expression at the end of the episode which quite gave some uneasy feelings, by the way.

No Karin until the first week of January.

[PsychItsMike]

Yea she was creepying me out at the end of the ep... a lot of anime wont come till the first/second week of Jan :(

[aliensporebomb]

I was thinking much the same.

Is she going to bite him or kiss him or what? On the other
hand, is Usui going to maybe make a move? When they were in
each others arms I was more than a little surprised.

And, Anju watching silently at the end makes me think she knows a
lot more about what is happening than even her parents or Ren or
anyone. She seems to exhibit an other-worldly knowledge of events
and situations that we haven't quite seen the end of yet.

The preview seemed to show Karin being upset that Usui
visited Anju to talk to her without her knowledge. My suspicion?

Usui is going to tell Anju that the blood increasing situation is
escalating. He's obviously concerned - when they were in the
locker he kept asking her if she was okay.

I think what Anju tells him back might just be enough to scare
the heck out of him but who knows?

Think on THAT and be dismayed!

[mangatron]

I was thinking much the same.

Is she going to bite him or kiss him or what? On the other
hand, is Usui going to maybe make a move? When they were in
each others arms I was more than a little surprised.

And, Anju watching silently at the end makes me think she knows a
lot more about what is happening than even her parents or Ren or
anyone. She seems to exhibit an other-worldly knowledge of events
and situations that we haven't quite seen the end of yet.

The preview seemed to show Karin being upset that Usui
visited Anju to talk to her without her knowledge. My suspicion?

Usui is going to tell Anju that the blood increasing situation is
escalating. He's obviously concerned - when they were in the
locker he kept asking her if she was okay.

I think what Anju tells him back might just be enough to scare
the heck out of him but who knows?

Think on THAT and be dismayed!

Eh, you could say episode 9 was very much a Anju ep, but not in a way some of you may have thought....

lol the summary is in my blog...link in sig. I'm too tired to do anything lol....copy...paste.....paste a copy of a pasted copy that was copied from a paste from a copy....:heh:

Why was this in page 3? :frustrated: :upset: :heh: :heh: :uhoh: :heh:

[aliensporebomb]

Very much an Anju episode but also showing further development on the
Usui/Karin front and only a brief appearance by Winner (HILARIOUSLY
curtailed by the suddenly strict and no-nonsense Maki). Another great
episode. Future episodes should be pretty interesting - will Karin act on
Rens' advice or will she keep going on this particular path? Could be
interesting either way.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Very much an Anju episode but also showing further development on the Usui/Karin front..... Another great
episode.... I agree. The episode gave me a very good feeling. Yahagi Sayuri continues to be fabulous as Karin. And you can't help being fascinated by Anju (voiced by Inokuchi Yuka, who also did Chochomaru in Petopeto-san). I keep wondering if they will be able to include that amazing early Anju side-story from the manga somewhere. I was much relieved when Winner was yanked out of the picture. Go, Maki!

[Lambda]

Did that scene with Winner and Maki make anyone else think of that couple from Card Captor Sakura, one of which is the lie-telling boy? (Can't remember either of their names.)

[Telmah]

Did that scene with Winner and Maki make anyone else think of that couple from Card Captor Sakura, one of which is the lie-telling boy? (Can't remember either of their names.)

Chiharu Mihara and Takashi Yamazaki?

I noticed that similarity as well.


On another random tangent, I’ve some speculation about the effects of Karin biting Usui in this spoiler below.


In episode 5, during the family meeting, it is suggested that Karin bites Usui to control her blood by her mother. He father makes a cryptic comment like “an idea partner.” Karin however seem not to want to do this. This seems to suggest to me there’s some type of other ramifications, that Karin considers problematic, though her parents don’t. Again in episode 9, when Anju and Ren talk, Ren seems to think that Karin should bite Usui. It seems like the creators are beating us over the head with the fact that Karin biting Usui will change something? But what?

I think that perhaps if the age is similar, biting someone will create some type of infatuation. We certainly see this with Ren. It could explain her father’s comment about an “ideal partner”. It explains why Karin doesn’t want to do it to Usui.

[aliensporebomb]

Responding to Telmah's posited idea:

If biting someone causes a hypnotic fascination on the
part of the bitten with the biter (which explains Winner's behavior),
and since Karin seems to be developing warm feelings for Usui,
perhaps she would prefer him to like her in the natural way rather
than a hypnotic after-effect of biting. In other words: Karin wants
a boyfriend who likes her for herself (which Usui seems to be doing
rather well, the only interaction with young males she's had before
was punky dismissive males calling her "nosebleed girl"). I could
see her not wanting things to change at all. Watch in particular
her over-the-top-relief after Anju speaks with Usui about the misunderstanding. She also might realize that now Usui can
think and act and keep her secret and why tamper with a good
thing? I could see Usui perhaps having some misgivings about
having a vampire girlfriend but so far she's done nothing but try
to make him happy (with unpredictable results). Perhaps if he
was bitten his ability to think independently would be tampered
with rendering him somewhat valueless (who would you trust to
protect you? A clear headed young guy like Usui or a ranting
lunatic like Winner? (Was he always that frenetic?))

Much to think about in the weeks ahead.

I haven't read the manga so it could go either way I suppose.

[aliensporebomb]

I thought of another thing that corroborates what I just said:

Usui's mother was feeding a bat she called "Entree'" (how cute).

She was terrified of the vampire on television after being bitten.
Now she thinks this bat is cute and is feeding it.

Interesting that a family only able to afford tomatoes is feeding
fish to a bat out back.

Real Interesting.

And what's the deal with Usui's mother? Worst luck in job hunting
ever. She needs employment counseling. Okay, I'm getting weird
about a comedy but...

[Vexx]

Usui's mother and jobhunting:

Sadly, this kind of harassment is still available in many countries including the US and its a lot harder to prove than one would think. Often the government only collects statistics and may act only if an overwhelming history is documented. In Japan, often they are less than progressive in this area, particularly outside of the largest cities - and it is often considered the woman's fault for not putting up and shutting up. It massively sucks and more males should actively shun guys that pull that crap.

[Furudanuki]

Observation about the bat:
<snip>
Usui's mother was feeding a bat she called "Entree'" (how cute).

She was terrified of the vampire on television after being bitten.
Now she thinks this bat is cute and is feeding it.

Interesting that a family only able to afford tomatoes is feeding
fish to a bat out back.

Real Interesting.
<snip>
Hopefully she is feeding the bat scraps because she thinks it is cute. Otherwise, given their current financial straits, Usui might want think twice about any unfamiliar meat product that shows up on the dinner table. "Entree" could be a description instead of a nickname! ;)

[teh_suck]

They're probably those little dried fish in the package like Eyes had in Spiral. I forget what they're called. Not really people food.

[Vexx]

Observation about the bat:

Hopefully she is feeding the bat scraps because she thinks it is cute. Otherwise, given their current financial straits, Usui might want think twice about any unfamiliar meat product that shows up on the dinner table. "Entree" could be a description instead of a nickname! ;)


We have 3 quail that live on our property (and produce a lot of little quail) but my wife calls the threesome Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

We use those little fish as sprinkles in some Japanese dishes (once they're ground up).

[Pellissier]

Did that scene with Winner and Maki make anyone else think of that couple from Card Captor Sakura, one of which is the lie-telling boy? (Can't remember either of their names.)
Lol, now that you recall it, I have to admit it's true, they are a lot alike :)

Episode 9.
By judging them each by each, standalone, this has to be my favourite. It may be because Anju is probably my favourite character in the series. It could be because I love both her voice and Karin's voice (great new seyiuus growing! :) ) .

It may be because there was again a slight but at the same time strong development on Karin-Kenta relationship. They had put the major awkwardness aside now, and they're so pretty when they're together ^^ I was happy too when Winner was literally smashed out of the screen :D
Overall, this episode was so sweet, so melancholic, so "feel good". If episode 8, being so Winner-based , had annoyed me, with ep.9 the series not only tied up but gained even more point than before.
I hope that Anju's character will keep an important role in the main story, and I hope that things could proceed with such a sweet and lovely pace and atmosphere :)

[Sinestra]

I love the series it funny as hell i mean a vampire that has too much blood a vampire hunter who is affraid of blood by the way i think Karins little sister is soooooooo uber cute is that creep sort back ally i love to hug her but would she bite me lolita way i will definetly keep watching

[deathcoy]

woah dude... where are your " . " lol...
epi 9 was nice... karin blushing is cute especially when usui said she'd make a good mother... i wonder if karin'll bite usui anytime soon... gotta agree with ya that mayb the bite will cause drastic changes in their lives...

[PsychItsMike]

I dont want her to bite Usui because he will be temporarily happy and she wont have any more nose bleeds which usually lead to something cute happening between the two :P.

[Cyz]

episode 9 was all Anju :) also, it was amusing to see karin imagining her to be a mom :) i guess she was in love with kenta :)

[Furudanuki]

Watched episode 10 last night, and Karin continues to be a joy to watch. I noticed in the We Suck fansub that the little "puppet theater" part of the intro was missing. Anyone know why? I'm not complaining, I'm just curious!

Some random impressions:
I am the father of two young girls. My wife watched this episode with me, and every time Karin's father showed up when Usui and Karin were together she would elbow me in the ribs and laugh, "That's going to be you in a few more years!". It most certainly will not - I do not start smoldering in the sunlight.

Given the devotion and concern Usui has shown for his mother up until now, it was a bit jarring the way that he treated her in this episode. But I have to congratulate the writers, because it added depth to the character and made him seem that much more of a believable human being to me. And finding out more about his past helps the viewer better understand his motivations.

Is it my imagination, or does Karin keep getting cuter every single episode? And I cannot give her voice actress enough credit - she is doing an amazing job of bringing Karin to life.

Since the focus of this episode was on Karin, Usui and their families, there was very little Maki time. Hopefully we'll see more of her next episode. But I'm biased because Maki has rapidly moved near the top of my "favorite secondary character" list.

[teh_suck]

There just wasn't a puppet theatre this week--if you'll notice, there was no credit for the narrator this time either.

[Furudanuki]

There just wasn't a puppet theatre this week--if you'll notice, there was no credit for the narrator this time either.
That would certainly explain why it isn't there! Many thanks to you for the info, and many more to your group for giving the japanese-language-impaired among us the opportunity to enjoy this great series. :bow:

[Owaranai Destiny]

Well...Episode 10 was definitely interesting. At least we get to see why Kenta's father wasn't there in the first place.
His anger is probably directed more at the lie that his mother kept up, a lie that he thinks is what it is, as he knew that his father had left them rather than die. The 'death anniversary' obviously didn't sit well with him.

There's the ever subtle hint of romance getting less subtle as well, at least, on Karin's side. I wonder how she ever got to clean up all the blood in the females' toilet all by herself.:heh:

Next episode would be the ever-popular swimsuit/swimming pool/beach episode, so some of us might look forward to fanservice, and (directed at Furudanuki) yeah, we'll probably be seeing more of Maki, since more Winner-kun and Karin is almost equivalent to more Maki as well. :)

@ teh_suck: Thanks for clearing up the doubts. Was that done so as to shorten the time a little or make sure that scene does not seem repetitive?

[teh_suck]

I can't really wager a guess as to why they cut it. If it's because they needed the few extra seconds of run-time this week, then ep 11 will have it. If it's because it's getting repeptitive and anyone watching an episode from now on will already know what the show's about, then it won't be. This also gives them the option of putting some of the episode before the OP, although since they're already putting some between the OP and the title card, I doubt they actually will.

[kinniku_man]

Because of Australian Open, this week no episode!

[Furudanuki]

Because of Australian Open, this week no episode!
Arrrgh! As if I actually needed another reason to loathe tennis... :bash:

[Vexx]

Arrrgh! As if I actually needed another reason to loathe tennis... :bash:

Eh.. if it wasn't tennis, it'd be golf ..... they sure pick interesting times of day and shows to interrupt regular casting for sports. Kind of like interrupting Elmo's World to show a Very Special Episode of Desperate Housewives.

[lickmytofu]

i couldn't stop laughing when winnner-kun saw his test mark...Oh my god!!! noooooo

[Squid]

i couldn't stop laughing when winnner-kun saw his test mark...Oh my god!!! noooooo
Haha, that was the best part of the whole episode! :heh:

[Pellissier]

Because of Australian Open, this week no episode!
And this is a very sad news :(

Episode 10 was quite good. A bit repetitive (sequences a-b-c repeating continuosly) but well thought overall and with some genuine heartwarming feelings as well.


++ Usui and Karin are making always more a great couple
++ Char design and animations are keeping themselves at high levels
++ Karin's dubber. What to say, wonderful wouldn't be enough.
+ Good travel on characters' indepth. For a humor anime as this, that's not so easy.
+ A bit annoying but with a huge heart. That's the "hazukashi" father :)
+ Winner-kun kept mostly out of the shows, and with bad rates too :D
- Usui's general attitude towards his mother was somehow irritating. The explanation then made more sense but it was a bit rushed off too.
- As mentioned, the repetitivity hit me after a while, but I guess it was necessary for the story.
-- Anju had a couple of static views , and even BGE has talked a lot more than her in this episode. I was guessing this, since she was the protagonist of previous ep, but such a passive role.. :(

The classical "Pool" episode! Lol, apart that instead of Winner saying "it's my chance" I would have preferred Karin saying "Pool? Swimsuit? Hazukashi!!!" :p .. I really hope in a full eligible cast comparison in this episode (meaning basically: I want Anju at the pool too :) )

[Sinestra]

I watched episode 10 of Karin and i really liked it was nice to see how well Kenta and Karin are getting along plus the little bomb about why Kenta father is not around What a little shit he is for doing that to his wife and kid but for me what made this episode so enjoyable was watching Karins father have a serious melt down about his daughter being alone with a guy. Plus watching him read that book was really funny. I have noticed that Kenta and Karin are starting to act more like b/f g/f now and that she blushes a lot when she looks at him and the bentos she makes for him she is going out of her way anyway i cant wait for the pool episode i think thats going to be quite amusing.

by the way but does anyone else think that Winner-Kun should find the nearest train tracks and play chicken i cant stand that guy

[Catgirls]

by the way but does anyone else think that Winner-Kun should find the nearest train tracks and play chicken i cant stand that guyI can't stand the guy either. Worst character of the show by far, but he does set-up the inevitable "vampire hunter X vampire" showdown that has only been slightly touched upon. I think we'll sympathize with him a bit more (and he may bloom later on) if/when he finds out Karin is a vampire and he become torn between killing her and wanting to bed her.

Other than that, he can go hang.

[Guido]

Other than that, he can go hang.

You mean, he can go gung-ho.

[Riker]

Well, Winner kun can be funny if you use him at the right moment.


Example :

Episode 10, when he goes "OMG NO~!", it was funny.
But if you give him more screentime he becomes annoying. :)

[Burner of Anime]

Not suprised the dad went on overdrive. When your first daughter has a medical condition, is prone to fainting and has very limited support in a hostile environment, it's understandable that the guy will worry. Add sudden and growing interest in the opposite sex and we'll probably see the daggers and nail-bats come out :heh:. Still a good dad btw, one that goes through fire for his children.:cool:

[Owaranai Destiny]

I was looking forward to some serious competition from Winner against Kenta...*shrugs* Looks like at this rate, he's just going to be an irritating character. :heh:

[aliensporebomb]

There were several extremely funny bits in Episode 10:

-Winner's reaction to his grades.

-Karin's father reading that book going on and on causing Carrera to react in
a predictable fashion. I wonder if we'll ever find out how they met and got
together?

-Boogie-Kun's hilarious diagram of romance: Confession->Love->EXPLOSION!
"Let's have an explosion". I was laughing for hours after that.

And then, Henry's rabbiting of the same logic in the library. Didn't have quite
the same authority did it?

Serious bits:

Usui & his Mom:

-I like the fact that we see Usui as imperfect - he's a young guy and he's getting
great grades, treats Karin like a queen (ladies, how many high school age guys
would repeatedly clean up your nosebleeds?), generally is supportive of his mom.

In this episode we maybe see some of his reasons for depression - missing dad,
deceptive mom trying to protect him, he being resentful in return.

-We also find out that Karin's dad will go to any length to protect her, even at
cost to himself.

[Kitty-Cat in Blanket]

Heh, I just started watching this series a couple days ago and my first impressions weren't great, but I like it more as time goes on. ^^ The animation style is the kind I like (though I don't really admire Karin's hair very much, her sister's much more cute).

Anyway, I actually think that Winner's a really funny character. The overly-dramatic aura he puts off is quite amusing, as it mocks drama in general. He's a one-man soap opera with poor taste in women. But I think, that if he became their ally, he'd become really kewl. The way he says "Karinnnn" mankes me laugh almost every time, because it's *so* obnoxious. I like that though.

This 10th episode wasn't my favorite, but it was still okay, with how Karin's dad was portrayed as being burned for Karin, and how Usui's... yeah. I feel somewhat bad for him now. I didn't care too much for him before. Another thing that cracked me up was how Boogie-kun went from like to love to EXPLOSION. I thought that was absolutely hilarious. And Winner's response to his 50%... wow. That had me going once I understood it.

So, I really like this one. I look forward to seeing more Karin~

[Decagon]

Hm. This series is definately a cute watch, and the story is certainly unique. I think the episodes get a bit clunky with flashbacks and switching between characters, though. The flashback with Karin's dad really threw the pacing off IMO.

[Eclipze]

And Winner's response to his 50%...
Actually, it was 38%.:heh:

[misakichii]

i just watched episode 10 yesterday. it was okay. at first i love karin but now i just feel like the anime just isn't going anywhere. each and every episode i watch i wonder "is karin gonna finally bite usui?" i don't know, just feel like the anime' not going anywhere. i probably expected too much from it . i probably overestimated the anime too.

and yes i agree that winner is annoying, totally.

[Tsubaki_]

Karin`s one of my fave animes now.
I love the Karin`s seiyuu, i love anju, and i hate winner-kun.

Perfect. Lol

[Guido]

For episode nine an interesting sub-plot could maybe had been introduced and could have the chance to be used later.

Karin is the most precious person for Anju to convey her feelings. I cannot quite stop conjecturing that as much time both Usui and Karin spend their time together and flourishing their relationship, Anju will resent it more.

Anju will feel more distanced and estranged from her sister Karin, then finally feel useless as in the past she protected Karin with her blood problem just as Karin took care of her during their infancy.

Could happen that Anju will run away from home feeling that she has no place to fit in for someone to take care of, and Karin, for her good-hearted nature, will search for Anju to make amends.


Now, episode ten explodes bombs and bombs of serious hilariousness courtesy from Karin's dad.
Bge-kun arouses the flame with its locker-room fantasies, and why Anju doesn't stop it?:heh:


Kenta's father whether his whereabouts are known or unknown will be an important device to use later or hinting at a possible sub-plot.
An issue that has to be the source of Kenta's unhappiness, I presume?

But, I did not like how quick Kenta made amends to his mother.

[aliensporebomb]

For episode nine an interesting sub-plot could maybe had been introduced and could have the chance to be used later.

Karin is the most precious person for Anju to convey her feelings. I cannot quite stop conjecturing that as much time both Usui and Karin spend their time together and flourishing their relationship, Anju will resent it more.

Anju will feel more distanced and estranged from her sister Karin, then finally feel useless as in the past she protected Karin with her blood problem just as Karin took care of her during their infancy.

Could happen that Anju will run away from home feeling that she has no place to fit in for someone to take care of, and Karin, for her good-hearted nature, will search for Anju to make amends.


Now, episode ten explodes bombs and bombs of serious hilariousness courtesy from Karin's dad.
Bge-kun arouses the flame with its locker-room fantasies, and why Anju doesn't stop it?:heh:


Kenta's father whether his whereabouts are known or unknown will be an important device to use later or hinting at a possible sub-plot.
An issue that has to be the source of Kenta's unhappiness, I presume?

But, I did not like how quick Kenta made amends to his mother.


The second spoiler you discuss I've thought about but not talked about.

Another possible confirmatory point?

Usui's STARE.

Just thinking out loud.

[Onizuka-GTO]

Who is Usui-s okaa-chans seiyuu? She's fantastic!

One of the best moment of all the episodes i've seen in this series so far has to be Usui's Okaa-chan giggling into her manga, then rushing about, in episode 04. oh god, i dunno why, but it just cracked me up! Every time i watch it! LMAOBBQLOLROFLCOPTERGUNDAMMED

:D :D :D

[Kaoru Chujo]

Who is Usui-s okaa-chans seiyuu? She's fantastic! One of the best moment of all the episodes i've seen in this series so far has to be Usui's Okaa-chan giggling into her manga, then rushing about, in episode 04. oh god, i dunno why, but it just cracked me up! Every time i watch it! LMAOBBQLOLROFLCOPTERGUNDAMMED She's Hisakawa Aya 久川綾, a long-time star who also played: Sailor Mercury (in Sailor Moon), Kerberos (Cardcaptor Sakura), Skuld (Oh, My Goddess!) and Kamio Haruko (Misuzu's mom in Air).

I've got a pic of her and links to more info on Hashihime's Seiyuus Page (http://hashihime.atspace.com/Hashi_seiyuus.html).

EDIT: I've also found a couple more pictures (http://www.animate.tv/news/detail.php?id=atv050915a&page=3&sea=&tid=&rid=&type=) of Yahagi Sayuri (Karin's VA) at an event last August. Sayuri-chan is the one in jeans and a black shirt. The woman in a black dress is Inokuchi Yuka, who plays Anju (and played Chochomaru in Petopeto-san, as well as the grey-haired school director in Canvas2).

And here's another pic (http://www.anime-tv.co.jp/news.html) of her (click to enlarge). It's from last June, and she's with a guy called Kaneda Kazuki. They are being introduced as two new VAs represented by I'm Enterprise (http://www.nf-imenterprise.com/home.html), which also represents Saitou Chiwa, Ueda Kana, Nakahara Mai, Kugimiya Rie, Takahashi Mikako and others.

[mangatron]

Hmm, while I haven't made a comment about episode 10, I've been listening to that Drama CD, and I'm still listening to it, and that feature with the cast of Karin, it's great stuff right there. I'm still trying to get over Anju's VA, how that girl can sound so calm and, "sleepy":heh: and yet in the CD she was the most giggling, laughing person lol...

Anyways, episode 11 being the pool episode, I have to say something.
Now I know all about pool episodes, and beach episodes, and anything with a mizugi (swimsuit), and normally episodes like this would focus on being ecchi of course. But, I do sincerely believe this episode didn't really focus on that. Sure, there were scenes that made me nosebleed (Yay! Return of the nosebleeds lol), but more interesting was the main point of this episode was, Winner and KArin, and that these two did in fact, meet before when they were younger. Earlier in the thread it was speculated, which I'm glad to know that is true. And yeah, she did bite him. Although it still does not explain his happy giddy attitude that seems to last, but I've some notions...

-Karin bites normal people, they become happy, or more enthusiastic than ever. But that doesn't seem to last. On the other hand, when Karin bit Winner, in which I do believe, Winner was in "love at first sight" mode, when she bit him. So perhaps, that could explain his cheerful nature, although there's still the fact that his father wasn't really the happiest man in the world, so I hope to see more into that
-Wow, when was the last time we saw something like this, a 98% Usui kenta-less ep :heh:. 2% for the total times he was shown lol...
-Now, I normally don't like girls who wear capri pants, but Maki really, really did look so cute in them...nosebleedo :heh:
-I've said this before, Maki really is officially in love with Winner. I like the way this ep showed more of that. I'm thinking Maki is alot more cuter than when Winner wasn't around, hopefully these two will hook up. I don't know, I'm really starting to become a Maki-chan fan :heh:....
-Winner apparently had more courage to fight his crimson-color phobia, so maybe this will be the first step in his fight for Karin....hopefully though, Karin-oniichan won't get too much of next ep, I'm interested in seeing more Kenta x Karin, although I do want more Maki x Winner :heh:....
-Winner's kanji/katakana support every time he says his "enthusiastic comments" were really not making me laugh as hard as when Restaurant Manager got pummled by one, man that was hilarious :heh: :heh: :uhoh: :heh: Maki made me laugh during those scene's as well.

I want more Maki-chan :crying: :heh:

o_o Karin again in next ep preview....*nosebleedo* :heh:

[iczelion74]

Ok Im tired of waiting on AFK, so is anyone watching the ASH or SUCK episodes, and if so are they doing a good job?

[Calca]

SUCK has always had a good reputation so yeah they are doing a good job.

No grammatical errors or anything from them.

[aliensporebomb]

Yes, and they seem to be quite a bit faster at getting the episodes out too.

[wuabbs]

Suck always get the episodes out well fast :D

[mangatron]

Heh interesting, Suck already brought out ep 11. Where are the discuss'ers? :( We have much to talk about :heh: :heh:

[darkchibi07]

Like Winner's thong? :p

All right, all right Karin's two-piece is freakin' hot!

[wuabbs]

Loved Winner-Kuns thong, absoloutely brilliant :D

Was afraid that Karin was gonna bite Winner, but it all turned out well. Next episode looks fun :D

[Furudanuki]

Karin in swimsuit. Cute and sexy doesn't even begin to describe her in this episode. My blood pressure may return to normal levels sometime this evening. Lots of Maki time too! Yesssss! And we also learn the truth about Winner's past. That's nice. Can he please die now? No, that would make Maki sad, and I like her too much. But I don't know if I can handle another episode with this much Winner screentime. I'm sorry, but for me Winner is rapidly approaching the line drawn between "He's very annoying" and "He's starting to ruin my enjoyment of the series". Watching him (and especially listening to him) is like slamming your hand in a door over and over and over again: it feels so good when you stop.

[Radiosity]

Completely agree with the sentiments regarding winner. Damn he's got an annoying voice, and in fact is just annoying outright. Fun episode generally, Winner is rapidly becoming public enemy #1 for me.

[Pellissier]

While it's true that the excessive amount of Winner-kun quite spoiled a complete enjoyment, I have to say this was a rather interesting episode.
We got an interesting explanation on how Winner became a vampire hunter, it was all Karin's fault, after all! :heh:
This episode also brought fanservice. I believe it's the first one to actually deliver it (excepting Opening). But it was belonging to the pool contest (quite...) and didn't disturbed at all. Karin has a great body, although it doesn't seem when she's clothed ^^
And such a cuteness couldn't be believable while acting "bitchy" at the pool, it was too forced :p (thus funny).
We got to know Maki better, while the other characters were put apart this time.
Although at the very end we had another clue on the likely "love-love" feeling Karin is having for Kenta, when blushing and denying anything about her previous day. So sweet ^^
Overall this episode gets an 8 , despite Winner-kun presence, because it was quite interesting, funny and refreshing regardless. And by the way, Winner sure is an hopeless loser, but sometimes laughing behind his endless absurdity may be good for our health :heh:

[wuabbs]

Hai karin-san

[Ilpalazzo-sama]

I think Winner is starting to seriously ruin the series. He is just freaking annoying more and more in every single episode. If this continues, sooner or later I'll consider dropping this series, unfortunatelly.

[Radiosity]

Unfortunately that's pretty much the same conclusion I've come to as well. It's depressing when an anime starts out so promising, with a nice unusual premise, good characters, interaction and comedy, then goes and ruins it after 6 or so episodes by introducing an idiot like Winner.

[tugatosmk]

I recenty watched eps 1 to 7 by A-E, and it's a terrific series. :D Hopefully it will get 26 eps (or even more :D).

But what is the general opinion regarding the fansubbers' quality comparision? For example, how is A-E compared to ASH or Suck or even AFK?

[Ilpalazzo-sama]

I recenty watched eps 1 to 7 by A-E, and it's a terrific series. :D Hopefully it will get 26 eps (or even more :D).

But what is the general opinion regarding the fansubbers' quality comparision? For example, how is A-E compared to ASH or Suck or even AFK?
I'm watching Suck since the beginning (saw 1 or 2 AFK i belive too), and they do a pretty good job (not that i can speak japanese or anything, but still).

[Cal-Reflector]

Episode 11 Thoughts: In spite of his intentionally-over-the-edge voice acting, I find myself liking Weinner. There are two category of bakas, and he falls in that which I don't dislike. Fundamentally, he's not a bad guy either--naieve, but nontheless devoted if not simple minded... and since the show presents him as the embodiment of female desire, well... *shrugs*

One must wonder though, had Winner not been bitten by Karen, how would he have turned out? Perhaps it is not too far a venture to say that he would have been far gloomier, darker, angsty, miserable... the bishie in distress, or the male equivalent of Usui's Mom and therefore doubly attractive to the opposite gender. *Chuckle* Maki might have a really hard time keeping her hands off him then.

[Radiosity]

AFK are great, but slow to release. I'm watching Suck at the moment and the quality is way below afk by a long shot. If you don't care about karaoke and just want bog standard yellow with a black outline, then suck are ok (pretty good translations for the most part, and they leave the honorifics in which is always a plus for me).

Dunno about the other two though, haven't watched any eps by them.

[Ilpalazzo-sama]

AFK are great, but slow to release. I'm watching Suck at the moment and the quality is way below afk by a long shot. If you don't care about karaoke and just want bog standard yellow with a black outline, then suck are ok (pretty good translations for the most part, and they leave the honorifics in which is always a plus for me).

Dunno about the other two though, haven't watched any eps by them.
Yeah, forgot that one, why, oh why is that ugly yellow/black arial text? :rolleyes:

[Pellissier]

AFK are great, but slow to release.
Actually, they're doing with Karin the same they did with Animal Yokocho. Meaning, 7 releases, then stop. And those 7 releases, in both cases, were fast (weekly) high quality.
Having lost afk, I've managed to watch the series via ASH or Suck, although I preferred afk.

For the collection meant to be stored at the end of the series, I'm getting the series from an italian fansub group too, PTP. Their works are good and the translations are faithful. A bit slower than the english groups, but at least it's my native language.

[Furudanuki]

I think Winner is starting to seriously ruin the series. He is just freaking annoying more and more in every single episode. If this continues, sooner or later I'll consider dropping this series, unfortunatelly.
I may gripe about him, but Winner doesn't irritate me enough to consider dropping the series. There are way too many good things that I like about Karin - like the rest of the cast! - for me to do that. Plus my wife would hurt me, since Karin is one of the series I download that she really looks forward to watching. But what I am going to do is move the mute button for my sound system so that it will be close at hand next time Winner has a lengthy appearance. That's the nice thing about subbed anime - I don't have to listen to that fingernails-on-the-blackboard voice if I don't want to! :)

[mangatron]

Why are we having a anti Winner majority here? :heh: I thought episode 11 would redeem the story behind his actions, but I guess not :(

But what I really liked about this episode, it showed that Maki likes Winner more and more, and that makes the series enjoyable for me because it shows a second relationship as opposed to the main one. Although, Maki still has to say something really good to Winner :heh:....

I find this episode on the normal level of fanservice, heck the fanservice was not what captivated me most; the story that was shown in ep 11 really captivated me most (and Maki-chan :heh: )

Just a thought....I wonder if, near the end of this series, Winner may return to whence he came. Surely he doesn't have much to constitute a permament stay besides Maki-chan :heh:....

[Radiosity]

Actually, they're doing with Karin the same they did with Animal Yokocho. Meaning, 7 releases, then stop. And those 7 releases, in both cases, were fast (weekly) high quality.
Having lost afk, I've managed to watch the series via ASH or Suck, although I preferred afk.

Ah right, makes sense I guess. It's not a problem, I'll watch Suck when they release, then go back and download afk for archiving later :)

Oh, and I also wouldn't drop the series just because of Winner, but I'd really much rather he wasn't there.

[Kamui4356]

Oh, and I also wouldn't drop the series just because of Winner, but I'd really much rather he wasn't there.
I'm hoping he'll make up for his annoying personality later in the series, once he discovers Karin is a vampire. There could be some interesting developments there.

Assuming, of course, he ever finds out. Given how bad he seems to be at recognizing vampires, there's no guarantee...:heh:

[Radiosity]

Assuming, of course, he ever finds out. Given how bad he seems to be at recognizing vampires, there's no guarantee...:heh:

Plus, Karin could insta-KO him simply buy being near enough to Usui to nosebleed and make Winner pass out :D

[Catgirls]

Assuming, of course, he ever finds out. Given how bad he seems to be at recognizing vampires, there's no guarantee...:heh:I think he will by accident. They (the show writers) wouldn't set all this up for nothing. He has to find out. It's one of this shows' last good secrets/gags.

[Kamui4356]

Plus, Karin could insta-KO him simply buy being near enough to Usui to nosebleed and make Winner pass out :D
Not if he puts on his Sunglasses of blood resistance!
http://home.att.net/~kamui4356/sunglassesofbloodresistance.jpg

:D

[Kaoru Chujo]

I've finally found a good photo of Yahagi Sayuri (http://hashihime.atspace.com/yahagi_sayuri.htm), the outstanding new VA who plays Karin. I've included the translated interview with her on that page.

There's a link there to Hashihime's Seiyuu Pages (http://hashihime.atspace.com/Hashi_seiyuus.html), which I seriously upgraded over the weekend, including adding a separate page for new seiyuus (http://hashihime.atspace.com/Hashi_seiyuusN.html).

[lavalyn]

Ah right, makes sense I guess. It's not a problem, I'll watch Suck when they release, then go back and download afk for archiving later :)

I generally try to stay out of these things, since it's so easy to find our rationale behind the actions of Suck (see the Policy of We Suck Fansubs (http://www.lavalyn.org/policy.html)) but that I have to respond to.

The entire point of our using "ugly yellow with black borders" is that it is sufficient, high contrast, and not particularly adorned. "Archival" is done by purchasing the DVDs! If it's worth keeping around on data CDs, it's worth getting the original video releases on real media - and paying for such. Yeesh.

[Vexx]

Agreed.. besides... the quality of encodes and broadcast tv .... there *is* some degradation and the DVDs are just usually going to knock the socks off in visual comparison.
However, until they license the puppies --- I agree with Radiosity in that I prefer to keep the fansub group's version that has my favorite translation and easy-to-read type. In Karin's case, I don't really have a favorite yet though Suck has been consistently on time ( I think my only complaint has been way back in the first ep when Karin's "monthly" illness got oddly translated as some kind of annual issue). You'd have to poke my wife for a typesetting critique .. I'm fine with most anything but her astigmatism makes her cranky if she has to strain at all to see the lettering

In the case of Shuffle!, I *never* arrived at a satisfactory choice of the 3 major subbers ... .they all had good points and bad points and did better or worse in specific episodes. I suspect I'll think the same here.

In any case, also agreeing with lavalyn - I watch these things with the intent of purchasing the series I find of enduring value (i.e. worth rewatching).

[teh_suck]

I went back and listened to that line again after that issue was raised here, and I stand behind my translation. If you look up 時期 (here's (http://www2.alc.co.jp/ejr/index.php?word_in=%8E%9E%8A%FA&word_in2=%82%A0%82%A2%82%A4%82%A6%82%A8&word_in3=PVawEWi72JXCKoa0Je) one place with over 500 examples) it's true that period is one of the possible translations, but it's more like a period of history, not like a menstrual period. I also don't think Karin's reaction was severe enough (in either the manga or the anime) to think that she interpreted that statement as relating to her period.

[tugatosmk]

Eveyone mentioned suck and AFK as good fansubbers, and ASH was only mentioned once. But no one mentioned A-E, which is worrying me. :(

A-E's fansubs looked very good to me, specially in their translation and adaptation to english and image quality (although the sub font is dislikable.) Could I be missing something plot-wise or detail-wise?

[nite0]

A-E is by far the best.

[Vexx]

I went back and listened to that line again after that issue was raised here, and I stand behind my translation. If you look up 時期 (here's (http://www2.alc.co.jp/ejr/index.php?word_in=%8E%9E%8A%FA&word_in2=%82%A0%82%A2%82%A4%82%A6%82%A8&word_in3=PVawEWi72JXCKoa0Je) one place with over 500 examples) it's true that period is one of the possible translations, but it's more like a period of history, not like a menstrual period. I also don't think Karin's reaction was severe enough (in either the manga or the anime) to think that she interpreted that statement as relating to her period.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree :) I just think the correlation between the blood, "everytime about this time since middle school", and the context, the girls ages, just lead to the inference that the meaning was monthly and Maki is assuming it has to do with Karin's period. Girls talk about their periods pretty routinely so I wouldn't expect a massive reaction from Karin about it. The scene doesn't make as much sense otherwise (at least to me), unless there's some other implication for an "annual illness" I don't see. But thats part of the fun of translation and dealing with the context behind the words.

I don't want to over focus on it as the vast majority of the translation is as good as I can determine. I also suspect the show's writers may be been treading around the censor's axe and chose that particular phrase so the girl viewers would nod and the guys would just have blank looks.
Its why translation is an art and not a science. Carry on :)

((wouldn't want to be a translator for arms treaty negotiations....))

[npal]

Well, I was pretty annoyed that I had to watch Winner for a whole episode but there were certain redeeming values.

1. Winner praises Karin for whatever she does, without complaining at all, and seems quite happy to attend to whatever needs Karin may have, which is, well, heartwarming to see. I mean, ok, my OWN tolerance is not that high, and I'm not oblivious to bitchy attitude but I'd certainly try my best for a girl I liked, up to a point. I will become neither Winner nor Yamato (Suzuka's pet :p). If Karin was serious about being bitchy, she should get lessons from Suzuka :p But otherwise, I find Winner nice through this episode.

2. Winner didn't pass out. That's the best thing he did in ep 11, and the best thing he did so far. He managed to remain conscious despite the blood, put his blood phobia aside, and carry Karin to the infirmary, which says a lot about how serious Winner is about Karin. I mean, besides the annoying flirt etc etc, Winner CAN be Karin's knight in shining armor. But well, I still support Kenta, somehow Winner is too... well, you get my point.

But to say something good about him, well, he really IS a hero at heart.

[teh_suck]

She also talks about 'that day' with relation to her blood reaction (as in, "Why am I having a reaction when it's not that day?"), and her vampire powers first appeared in the summer. It could have something to do with that, especially considering the content of her dream.

[Vexx]

True.. and Maki *could* just be equating it to some wierd version of spring fever she thinks Karin is susceptible to.... so I can't rule out your interpretation ....
I don't see a specific forum for translators ... is there somewhere to go when one is scratching one's head over a phrase or sequence?

I suppose we can take this to PM as we're probably boring everyone but I'm interested in translating for groups when I eventually get enough clues not to have to run to the books every few phrases. :) ... given my rate of learning (2 steps forward, 3 steps back) I suspect not for another year or so...

[Guido]

I enjoyed much episode eleven due that it filled on background for Karin, presented me possibilities on which I can speculate why Winner-kun was introduced into the show, foreshadows and hints at possible scenarios for the future, and new characters that could possibly would make it into the show.

I guess the producers already had in mind to construct an alternative plot for the manga in the anime version. I do not doubt that Winner-kun was the pivotal character for those changes.
The J.C. staff wanted to introduce a sort of one-sided love triangle element, however, it could give signs away that will become into a true two-sided love triangle.

When they were chatting about the incident of the summer Karin felt a nice vibe from Winner-kun's face which made her to blush.

Could it be a possible sign that she became slightly smitten? some slight infatuation?

If there's indication about Karin looking at both Usui and Winner in the opening sequence, I could presume that Karin will start to feel for Winner-kun although quite a different sensation.

I mean her blood began to react for him!


Winner-kun has a nightmarish image of his grandpa for all the harsh training he had to come through it. A visual pun about an imposing, stiff image of how his grandpa should look like dead gives away how scary Winner is from him.


I cannot help myself to wonder if that image of Winner's grandpa hints that his character some way or another will be introduced later onto the show to remind of Winner to fullfill his obligations as a vampire hunter.

I'm thrilled for that scenario to come happening, because it will deal lots of strain and pressure for Karin and her family paving way to numerous situations of comedy antics or better yet, suspense build up for them to avoid being found out their true identities.

But from that image I'm theorizing that Winner's grandpa must likely be personalitywise as Karin's father.

An old man to loves to brag and putting himself into compromising situations because hallucinating or just paranoid about imagining vampires everywhere, as also relaxing in the most disturbing and creepy manners.

That's my take on Winner's grand pops.


Finally, Karin and Winner's first meeting displays an interesting variation of a predestined paradox.


Karin was responsible to turn Winner into a self-motivated and confidence vampire hunter, because he bit him on that day when the solar eclipse happened.

It is ironic that although Winner-kun recalls that event somehow he never remembers how he got his hemophobia, and that's because there could be just a moment in which Winner-kun saw Karin stained with blood all over her and found that sight traumatic for him that forced him to faint.

Also, it came as a surprise for Karin when she experienced her blood reaction for the first time that made her to partially disregard the whole incident as a dream, and likely her family found her with no traces of Winner when arriving to the scene.

Either that or Karin made her way back to her family and forgot about Winner-kun, therefore, Winner's memory of Karin never got to be erased.

However, Winner-kun seems not to have recalled entirely the whole incident. The key lies when he discovers how he got his hemophobia from Karin and realizing that she is a vampire who bit him on that day.

And I wonder how will Winner-kun cope or feel about Karin once all the pieces from their first kiss on that summer day return to him?

Discovering her identity?


On another note, episode twelve will go back on track with the manga because Ren will be targetin Usui's mom like happens in the manga, however, I'm betting that the staff will change a lot of stuff to fit the anime storyline.

[Eclipze]

From episode 11, it seems that Winner and Karin have alot in common....
Biggest similarity being that both are "outcasts" for their respective family...
Karin, being an "umvampire", while Winner having the traits completely opposite of a vampire hunter's.

It might have been mentioned earlier, but this episode makes it much clearer.

[aliensporebomb]

Hm.

Something about this episode, one particular
phrase Winner said gave me the distinct impression
he knows exactly what Karin is and in some ways
his romantic obsession is an act. I think he could
possibly be up to no good. What better way to
validate his hunter status with his grandfather?

And what better way to get her to a place he
can stake her: woo her, get her to trust him
with time and then when she least expects
any wrongdoing out of him he stakes her.

She's nice enough to almost fall for it. I
think Usui is too involved with his mom's
situation and work and school to really see
it or do anything about it.

Hmm....
Episode 11 has me thinking.

[Trax]

Sounds unlikely to me. He could have had the opportunity already without going through all this trouble, it's not necessary to woo her.

[teh_suck]

He didn't recognize Henry or Ren as vampires, so I don't see why he would recognize Karin. He's comic relief, and he's better at comic relief if we know that he worked really hard to become a Vampire Hunter and he still sucks at it. (He can't even beat Usui!)

[Keluangman]

well he serve as a comic relief and also maybe an object of jelousy for usui to further the relationship between karin and usui
(i am not a winner fan , i only hate him a little bit =0)

[Pellissier]

Ah right, makes sense I guess.
No, it doesn't, at all! :heh:
They stopped for Animal Yokocho at episode 7 and got stuck with it (last release, october 18, 2005).
Same for Karin, reached episode 7 then stuck (last release, december 18, 2005).
With respect for their (so far, excellent) works, I guess I won't be picking afk's releases anymore, for the moment.
As for the quality etc. etc. , I must collect the better version by starting from now, because in my country such anime will never get licensed.
In my country they just license sci-fi and extreme actions stuff :eyebrow: , italian groups do know this so their releases are always slow but for the sake of accuracy and fancyness. I like them.
Oh, and I also wouldn't drop the series just because of Winner, but I'd really much rather he wasn't there.
I didn't express myself on this matter, so here I am.
Of course. Dropping the series because there's Winner-kun would seem a bit unfair to me, maybe it means the series wasn't really liked in the first place.
While Winner-kun will very likely influence my final enjoyment and rate for the series, I mustn't forget how sweet and lovable Karin (the character) is, as well as Anju. And also this show features in my book just too many "highs", to be dropped for such a stupid "down".

[Chiibi]

I liked Winner-kun until he opened his mouth, then I hated him with his freakish foreign way of speaking, being a pain in the ass for Karin and Kenta's rabu-rabu time, and his pansy-ness. lol But now that I've seen episode 11, he is actually sweet. I hope things go well for him and Maki-chan. ^_^

...his outfit is cool too.

[Guido]

Out of the most things I did enjoyed in the episode was the piano version of the opening song, "scarlet", and I do hope it comes included within the OST.

Maki and Winner to make a nice couple? Yep, why not?

She started to feel affection witnessing how he was feeling miserable losing the duel to Kenta, but because Karin intervened and went to Kenta's side.

Maki's infatuation for Winner is building up step by step and done in the most spontaneous and convincing manner; it's sweet.

However, how long will it take for Winner to recall properly Maki's name?

[Guido]

Sorry for the double post, but I want to announce that the pics for episode twelve have been released by futaba channel.

http://nov.2chan.net/24/res/210875.htm

And to make pun of Shingetsutan Tsukihime mythos, it seems that in this episode Karin almost became a Dead Apostle.

[mangatron]

Sorry for the double post, but I want to announce that the pics for episode twelve have been released by futaba channel.

http://nov.2chan.net/24/res/210875.htm

And to make pun of Shingetsutan Tsukihime mythos, it seems that in this episode Karin almost became a Dead Apostle.

heh, yaoi fans better stay out of this one lol....

So, I'm a bit tired so I'll make this one a rather short one.

-I thought this was a Ren ep :heh: well, he did get most of the first half, but the second half was mostly Karin...
-Winner! Well, at times he's just there for comedy, at times his presence is important. In this episode, his first appearance was a laugh, the second time it affected Ren's moment of bite on Usui-okasan :heh:
-Ok, Kenta's mother's depression has been affecting him of late, and Karin has been noticing that dark aura of sadness. The first time she managed to contain herself...except her blood lol
-Now, while I'm not a big fan of that yaoi-ish scene, the Ren biting Usui-okasan was....fanservish :heh: to say it again, it happened twice rofl....
-Now, is it me, or am I liking Maki's hair down? And is it just me or did I like her second hairstyle (assuming that was her at the restuarant.)
-lol the emphasis on Karin's breast's seemed all to apparent this ep, and who would've thought Usui-mommy was....*melt* it's too much rofl

The end of this ep would assume that Karin bite's Kenta. That is, they didn't really show it. So no telling....:heh:

[Cal-Reflector]

heh, yaoi fans better stay out of this one lol....

So, I'm a bit tired so I'll make this one a rather short one.

-I thought this was a Ren ep :heh: well, he did get most of the first half, but the second half was mostly Karin...
-Winner! Well, at times he's just there for comedy, at times his presence is important. In this episode, his first appearance was a laugh, the second time it affected Ren's moment of bite on Usui-okasan :heh:
-Ok, Kenta's mother's depression has been affecting him of late, and Karin has been noticing that dark aura of sadness. The first time she managed to contain herself...except her blood lol
-Now, while I'm not a big fan of that yaoi-ish scene, the Ren biting Usui-okasan was....fanservish :heh: to say it again, it happened twice rofl....
-Now, is it me, or am I liking Maki's hair down? And is it just me or did I like her second hairstyle (assuming that was her at the restuarant.)
-lol the emphasis on Karin's breast's seemed all to apparent this ep, and who would've thought Usui-mommy was....*melt* it's too much rofl

The end of this ep would assume that Karin bite's Kenta. That is, they didn't really show it. So no telling....:heh:

As a healthy, full-functioning and upright young adult male, I hereby say... that Usui's Mom (that's her name) is the hawts. AND I KNOW you guys out there are secretly thinking the same thing! Admit it! *Chuckle* I mean, just look at her; no wonder Usui is such a model son, how can he ever go wrong and do something to break her heart when faced with such a smile?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/Cal-Reflector/Screenshot094.jpg

Oh, by the way, am I one of the scant few who doesn't hate Weinner's guts? Poor bastard, it's not his fault that he turned out the way he did. At least he's got a nice gal to appreciate him though.

[mangatron]

heh, I don't hate Winner, in fact, I'm wondering why people don't like him, well, other than his voice, but still, his voice or himself doesn't annoy me at all. Perhaps because I'm used to that sort of thing :uhoh: :heh:

[Riker]

As a healthy, full-functioning and upright young adult male, I hereby say... that Usui's Mom (that's her name) is the hawts. AND I KNOW you guys out there are secretly thinking the same thing! Admit it! *Chuckle* I mean, just look at her; no wonder Usui is such a model son, how can he ever go wrong and do something to break her heart when faced with such a smile?

I never hide it in the first place.
*points to the club in my sig*
The major reason why I can't wait to see episode 12 is because of her, in a cheongsam too !

Show your support by voting for her in the Best anime MILF of 2005 Thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=26576).

[Furudanuki]

As a healthy, full-functioning and upright young adult male, I hereby say... that Usui's Mom (that's her name) is the hawts. AND I KNOW you guys out there are secretly thinking the same thing! Admit it! *Chuckle* I mean, just look at her; no wonder Usui is such a model son, how can he ever go wrong and do something to break her heart when faced with such a smile?

Oh, by the way, am I one of the scant few who doesn't hate Weinner's guts? Poor bastard, it's not his fault that he turned out the way he did. At least he's got a nice gal to appreciate him though.
I knew I was going to love Fumio the instant I recognized her voice! Aya Hisakawa (Fumio's seiyuu) was also the voice of Minamo "Nyamo" Kurosawa in Azumanga Daioh and Skuld in Ah! My Goddess. And since those two characters are right up near the top of my All Time Favorites list, Fumio had a big head start.

I don't hate Winner's guts. I just find listening to his voice to be almost intolerable. It has nearly the exact same tone and rhythm that my daughters use when they are whining about something, and it simply drives me up the wall. I watched episode #11 again the other day, muting my speakers whenever Winner spoke at any length, and my enjoyment of the episode increased drastically over the first viewing. Winner is obviously going to be an increasingly important character in the series, and I've never considered him to be a "bad person". He is over-the-top to the point of being annoying at times, but I could easily live with that if it wasn't coupled with the voice. But since I really, really like Maki, I'm prepared to put up with a lot from Winner as long as his being around makes her happy - and results in more Maki screentime goodness. So I'll keep my mute button close at hand and continue to look forward to every episode!

[Guido]

Everyone likes my new avatar, because if you do then also gives a hint on what happens to Karin in episode twelve.

Oh, God! So hawt and feral! Overwhelmed by her instincts.

Several stuff in the anime episode 12 also happens in volume four of the manga.

[aliensporebomb]

Oh wow, you're killing me. Can't wait.

[Spectrebane]

I love it, but I have a question that has been bugging me, hate to ask it here but.

In Episode 8 When Karin told Winner "Right, cheer up and do your best.", Anyone know what song that is playing, its been haunting me.

[udewsn]

I think it was a Beethoven's Piano Sonata no.8 2nd mov.

If it was a different scene, I'm sorry..

[trademark]

Can somebody post update spoilers about stuff that's different in the manga than in the anime as the anime goes on. I'm curious myself and I don't really want to read the manga after already starting the anime.

[gohan11]

The manga doesn't have Winner in it and some of the other events in the anime are slightly different in the manga. As the anime proceeds there might be even further changes though. The manga is only up to volume 8 and things move pretty fast, so they might have just added all the Winner stuff to make up for it.

Also is it me or is Winner's voice like nails down a chalkboard, I feel like covering my ears whenever he speaks.

[Vexx]

Winner's voice seems to be a nearly universal complaint... makes me wonder how the japanese broadcast viewers are taking him. I don't have a lot of problem with his *character* and its impact on the story ... but it is kind of hard to believe they intentionally chose that voice.

[Guido]

Winner's voice seems to be a nearly universal complaint... makes me wonder how the japanese broadcast viewers are taking him.

They don't seem to have any complaints whatsoever.

A show whose primary target are otakus and broadcast at 02:00 a.m. when nobody else is watching, except for otakus.

[teh_suck]

Actually it airs at midnight. Still pretty late, but not as bad as 2am.

[Vexx]

They don't seem to have any complaints whatsoever.

A show whose primary target are otakus and broadcast at 02:00 a.m. when nobody else is watching, except for otakus.

okay.. I'm not sure why that was relevant.... I was wondering about how the japanese target audience was taking the character and you're in Mexico. Do you frequent the forums or message boards in Japan...?

And as I'll always say when people seem to think only night-owls watch a show broadcast after midnight, ever heard of DVRs or VCRs?

[tugatosmk]

And as I'll always say when people seem to think only night-owls watch a show broadcast after midnight, ever heard of DVRs or VCRs?

That's exactly what I think, too. :) But some people either don't like using it or, as kj1980 replied to me once in another thread, people who program timers to watch a show later are the "fans" (not necessarily hardcore otakus) of that series. "Normal" people (as in "non-fans") don't bother recording and, therefore, watching it live because they're not too keen to watch it.

It still doesn't make sense to me, though... :confused: I always program timers for late-night shows because I don't want to sacrifice my precious sleep hours. :D

[Pellissier]

Uhm.. I have watched episode 12. If there was a poll, it were a 6,5/10.
While undoubtfully interesting, since it very likely brought a step ahead in the plot, I overall find it less enjoyable than the previous ones.

It must be because, overall, it quite lacks that sense of "carefreeness" usually featured in past episodes. I found this ep. to be more tense, and a tad too serious, maybe. This is all in my very humble opinion, I felt like I wasn't enjoying as usual, with Karin. And this even if Winner-kun got 2 red cards from the referee in no time :heh:
I'm also seeing the fanservice going higher (well, Kenta's mom and Karin in that outfit, ehm..) , and overall I'm not liking much Ren's character, too meddlesome with his sister, I think the father was enough.
Spectacular phone call from Maki to Karin , when she even got out of the receiver ^^
Very interesting ending, because they left us with the suspance. And since this is a very unpredictable series, I have no clue on next ep. as usual.

To bit, or not to bit , yeah that is the problem! :heh: (poor Shakespeare :uhoh: )

[Vexx]

That's exactly what I think, too. :) But some people either don't like using it or, as kj1980 replied to me once in another thread, people who program timers to watch a show later are the "fans" (not necessarily hardcore otakus) of that series. "Normal" people (as in "non-fans") don't bother recording and, therefore, watching it live because they're not too keen to watch it.

It still doesn't make sense to me, though... :confused: I always program timers for late-night shows because I don't want to sacrifice my precious sleep hours. :D

I'm surrounded by "mundanes" (non-anime folk) in my life and work who *rarely* watch a show when it is aired anymore. They all have Tivo or use their VCR so they can watch television on their own schedule rather than when "the Tube" demands they sit. I think live broadcast sporting events are about all they'll tolerate adjusting their schedule for. I correspond with a few people in Japan who do the same -- they rarely watch tv "live" anymore. Granted, thats not a survey but it looks like the "normal" people are starting to catch on to timeshifting their viewing habits.

[Guido]

This is how I liked the turn of happenings for episode twelve.

Even though Winner's vampire hunter patrol routine was somewhat unsavory, it pulled out a good laugh out on me.:eyespin:

Episode 12 returns on track with the manga, borrowing some chains of events from chapters 13-15, but it drew most plot from the manga chapter 15.

Ren identifying Fumio not having Karin's bite marks anymore and choosing her as his next victims of his perversion bites.

Karin learning from Anju that Ren is targeting Fumio-san, and Anju refuses to speak to Ren on behalf of Karin's request.

Ren investigating his family genealogy to find out any rare case like Karin's.

Karin ending up working a second shift at the Chinese restaurant.
But in the manga, Fumio-san does not gets hire there.

Karin's resolve to bite Fumio before Ren does so.

What happened on the last minutes of episode twelve of the anime went the same way as the end of chapter fifteen of the manga (Volume four)
Karin's blood cannot take any longer the overexcessive build up after being exposed continuously to Fumio-san ominous aura of stress, then Usui was the straw that spilled the glass. Sensing that Karin is about to overflow in front of the entire crowd, Kenta takes her to an isolated place.
On their way, Karin's consciousness sways and vanishes as her feral instincts totally overwhelm them. Once reaching a safe spot, Kenta tries to talk to Karin, but she tumbles him on the ground. Karin has turned on her feral mode with her fangs bare exposed and enlarged ready to bite Kenta without remorse or inhibitions at all.

But there were a minor changes from the manga to the anime:
1. In the manga, Kenta takes Karin to a secluded alleyway while in the anime they came to an abandoned cruiser???

2. Karin has no magic powers (associated with vampires) in the manga. However in the anime, Kenta approaches Karin but she sends him flying with a magical bolt.

3. Karin's eyes look different from manga to anime.
In the manga they are feral while in the anime they appeared malevolent.


Anyways, the episode ended with a solid cliffhanger. Seems that the anime staff are going to focus on the background story of Karin's mystery nature, unlike the manga where the author is inclined to narrate Karin's discovery voyage of her feelings toward Kenta.

The title for episode thirteen hints at that: "Awakening is embarrassing."

That could likely mean that Karin will gradually mature into her real vampire nature, and thus bringing strain and hardships to both she and Kenta to deal with it for future episodes.

[Pellissier]

Anyways, the episode ended with a solid cliffhanger. Seems that the anime staff are going to focus on the background story of Karin's mystery nature, unlike the manga where the author is inclined to narrate Karin's discovery voyage of her feelings toward Kenta.
I hope not, actually.. I would prefere the other (romantic) way. Or alternatively they could do both things.
So I guess that is because I didn't read the manga, that I found this episode a bit out of the usual Karin's outlines, thanks Guido for the infos :)

Ah, and by the way Guido, since there's that scene in your avatar you love so much, I had prepared a gif you may eventually want to use as avatar.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1660/scarykarinv27pg.gif

It's your, if you want, either way, it's here and freebie ^^

[Guido]

Thanks a lot Pellisier. I'll be using that avatar. Thank you, very much.

By the way, I have serious doubts about the tastes of vampire's on human blood.

Fumio-san is being targeted by Ren, because she's building stress that he likes, however, Karin's reacting severely because of Fumio's overwhelming sadness aura.

How can vampires distinguish 'unhappiness' from 'stress'?

It looks the same all to me.


By the way, I have listened to the Karin OST that includes plus four original CD dramas.

Unfortunately, it lacks that psychotic tune played whenever Karin blood reacts and begins to build up.:upset:
The one song that has that mystery UFO vibe in it.

[aliensporebomb]

Yipes. Episode 12 = AMAZING. Cliffhanger!

Thoughts:
If Usui IS bitten will be turn into a drooling Karin fanboy
like Winner? Won't this spoil a good thing? Ren seems to be really
emphasizing that vampires are not humans. Karin maybe should
have told the truth about her feelings for Usui but I suspect it will
be a big (amusing) mess. Yes - dark, serious episode. But the
scene with Maki on the phone had me laughing with each minute
as she gradually exerted more and more willpower on Karin to
hilarious results..

Episode 13 ought to be really interesting.

[misakichii]

hmm....i just finished watching ep 11 right now and it was okay. i mean i probably would have like it more if something somewhat like that was to happen between usui & karin and not winner & karin. well i'm quite shock of how little the part usui play in this ep. i really wish something good or intense will just happen between usui and karin. well i'm downloading ep 12 right now and am really looking forward to it since it seems like ren is after usui's mom.

[misakichii]

oh and one more thing...have anyone thought about the possibilities of the ending? it's hard for me to come up with one with the story going nowhere.

[Genesisbreed]

Yipes. Episode 12 = AMAZING. Cliffhanger!


Ya it was quite a site a minute ago... you should have seen it... my entire head exploded at the end of the episode! :eek:

To think i have to wait a week! Halfway point of the series I want to know whats gona happen!

[mytrivo]

Just saw Ep 12. Will she or won't she? Guess I have to wait until ep 13 to find out. :) And Karin's imagination of Ren attacking Kenta and then her reaction to her own thoughts was too funny.

Now a trivial question for someone who understands Japanese terms and honorifics. Karin refers to Ren as onii-chan whereas Anju calls him Ren nii-san. I think that -san is more formal than -chan, correct? Do onii- and nii- have slightly different meanings too?

[teh_suck]

Now a trivial question for someone who understands Japanese terms and honorifics. Karin refers to Ren as onii-chan whereas Anju calls him Ren nii-san. I think that -san is more formal than -chan, correct? Do onii- and nii- have slightly different meanings too?
No, the o is just an honourific.

[Vexx]

I would interpret the way Karin and Anju address Ren as =
Karin looks up to him as an honored endearing older brother, whereas
prodigy Anju views him as technically an older brother but an equal in other respects.

heh... go go Anju :)

[Chiibi]

Episode 12...

OMG I can't believe they ended it there!! BITCH!

...lol

This was an enjoyable ep but there was a bit too much male-aimed fanservice for my taste. -_- And for a while, Karin didn't seem like a fanservicey show at all, a.ka. no nudity or pantsu shots or even much cleavage (save the famous swimsuit ep) which is why I liked it more than others. But damn... that breast feel-up scene was FAR unecessary and I SWEAR they got bigger in that shot. Of course I always thought her chest was too big-seriously, it looks freakish on a high school girl. x_x (I guess it's the golden rule that anime vampires have to be well-built. lol.)
However.......that yaoi scene with Kenta and Ren in Karin's fantasies TOTALLY makes up for it!! XD *dies from laughter* I'm pretty shocked at what happened later though...o_O although it was pretty cool to see Karin turn all bad-ass and psycho-looking. AHH what will happen NOW!?

Oh yes, Winner-kun gets questioned by the police ROFL funny! XD

[Furudanuki]

Episode #12 - Wow. Cliffhanger is right! It is going to seem like forever until the next episode comes out.

I was pleased with this episode for the most part. Karin herself is adorable as always - she's cute even when in feral mode. I was especially interested in the way that Ren was portrayed. Yes he is primarily a self-centered jerk with a good dose of sadist thrown in, but his determination to make Karin understand what sort of being she is shows me that while he may have no concern for her happiness now, he does have her long-term interests in mind. I even enjoyed Winner's appearances in this episode. Whatever else he may be, he is great comic relief. And he only had a few lines of dialogue, so this time I did not feel the need to jam a broom handle through my eardrums to escape his voice. And he actually detected a real vampire! Maybe he isn't quite so hopeless after all.

A few minor gripes.... And I guess that if this is all I feel like grumbling about, the people creating Karin are doing a pretty good job!

The breast mauling scene. It was entirely unnecessary, was neither funny nor sexy, and seemed completely out of place with the rest of the episode, if not the entire series. It also looked like every female in the cast except Anju had their breast size increased about 25 percent in the second half of the episode. Karin has always been drawn with large breasts, but in the Chinese restaurant scenes her body borders on deformed. Hopefully this is an aberration and not a sign that more of the same will be forthcoming. I don't have any objection to fanservice that is done well and fits the tone and pace of the series: this was not and did not.

Maki is a wonderful character. I love Maki. So, I would like to track down whoever was responsible for drawing Maki in this episode and bludgeon them into a coma with a carp. I know her scene was mostly done in SD mode, but to me that drawing did not even resemble Maki.

[Vexx]

gah.. I'm four episodes behind...... time to focus on the downloads....

[Owaranai Destiny]

I thought episode 12 was pretty decent.
Granted, the breast-grabbing scene was definitely out of place, but Ren's kinda adminstering something akin to 'tough love', perhaps?

Winner never fails to irritate (and surprisingly) amuse me at the same time, especially when the cop asked him whether he was cosplaying as a patrol car. :heh:.

Karin's gone all feral...Hmm...cliffhanger, with an interesting indication of what might happen in the next episode in the preview. Hmm...

[Pellissier]

I think we can talk outside the spoiler tags now, episode 12 has been released by two groups already, and almost 3 days has passed. The spoiler tags are meant to cover unrevealed part of the plot, not the revelead one (as it is now). :)

But the
scene with Maki on the phone had me laughing with each minute
as she gradually exerted more and more willpower on Karin to
hilarious results..
I really liked that scene too, and it even inspired me three avatars out of it ^^

Maki phase # 1

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/7830/makiphone1v12cv.gif

Maki phase # 2

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/704/makiphone1v22tt.gif

Maki phase #3

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4510/makiphone38db.gif

Poor Karin.. ^_^
Actually I wanted to make two gifs out of phase three, but I got sleepy, it's evening here. Plus, I really didn't know how to make it/them 100x100, since Maki covers more than half screen at the beginning, and all of it at the end of the sequence.
Freebies and AS friendly, just in case :)

[shikamarufoo]

gah.. I'm four episodes behind...... time to focus on the downloads....
Same here gotta start watching so I can discuss and press the spoiler buttons:) .

[Sinestra]

I loved the way this ep ended i thought they did a great job i wish Kenta would have been in it more i am enjoying watching how close Karin and him are getting anytime anyone mentions something about them dating or being in love she freaks out. I loved when Maki was coming out of the phone that made me laugh so hard it hurt. The gaint breast thing they had going on i didnt like but over all the episode was very good. I mean you gotta feel sorry for Kenta mom she tries so hard but just messes up. As for Winner i still want him to be hit by a truck he just gets on my nervs to no end, but i understand what his role is in the series and when they explained his past in ep 11 it made sense. I still dont think its going to be KarinXWinner ending for a number of reasons. Karin may be getting use to him and they may be similar but all he has ever done is chase her their personalties are too simliar for it to work Kenta on the other hand balances her crazy personality very well. Plus i could so see Karin brother going all Vlad the impaler on her Winner once he figuers out who he is. But who knows thats just my theory. But i wonder whats going to happen if Karin does end up taking a bite out of Kenta. I get the feeling Anju knows more about Karin and Kenta then shes saying. Plus lets not forget that Maki has a huge crush on him once Karin finds out that will just decrease his chances of getting with Karin

[Vexx]

okay..... caught up now... (to ep 12 at least).
spoilered so I can babble and froth....

ep 12 wasn't toooooo fan servicey if you understand the cafe Maaka and Usui's mom were working at was a cosplay themed chinese cafe.... but boob grabbing hostess manager was a over the top (why anyone thinks that is funny has lost me...)

Usui's mom is reminding me of Sayoko from Mahoraba between her depression and klutziness. She certainly is a pretty thing though.

Both Usui and Karin keep trying to solve their problems without confiding in each other.... baka squared.... I suppose the Great Breakthrough won't be a kiss but them actually working together properly :)

Winner's voice..... I see the pain after 4 eps in a row.... but he sounds pretty much like a loud american accented japanese speaker (from romania, <snerk!>).

Loved the locker scene.... and loved Maki's persistence "idiot boy --- lookee over here at THESE!!!" ...

Loved Karin's expression as she ran up to the duel ... this is going to turn into one of those Lamune things.... isn't it... where everyone in the county knows the destiny except the baka no futari ....

Karin is pretty much a pleasant little knockout ... I'm not even a fan of over boobage but she's so damned cute ... but the art in the chinese restaurant boobage check test was kind of lame. Maki is perky cute as well...

Anju's little ep was very sad... very well done. If that is going to constitute a "filler" for this series, holy crap, its a 9/10 or 10/10 in the making. :)

babble off .... now I'm caught up. Other than now needing to go back and watch them again...

[molitar]

yeah the boob grabbing hostess was just doing ANYTHING she could to draw the attention in.. even if it was a sexual harrassment of same gender to accomplish her goals.. Otherwise she would of fired them after the second or third incident. Karin, isn't the brightest tho all she had to do was ask to speak to Usui-kuns mother privately for a moment and it would of been over.

[Vexx]

well.. I think we've established she's not the sharpest tool in the shed. Both Anju and Ren run circles around her, Kenta has to help her with her studies..... Maki is clearly the sharper of the two. But Karin also has a good heart, is extremely loyal, believes in obligation, and wants the people in her life to be happy for reasons more altruistic than just keeping her blood in check.

I'm wondering what that goofy manager at Julian's thought they were doing around the corner in the parking lot..... the dialog sounded more perverted than sexual :) ought to go back and listen to the japanese more closely. Ah, youth <snerk!>.

[Chiibi]

I don't think Karin is dumb. At least she can cook! Complete airheads usually can't boil water. lol

[Vexx]

I wasn't suggesting she was dumb .. just not a candidate for Mensa. A lot of very nice people can't work out the details of quantum chromodynamics or follow a discussion on steganography. In her case, she has a clear aptitude for cooking and creating her own recipes as well as traits I find very important - like loyalty, obligation, and compassion.

[trademark]

Episode 12 really leaves the next episode to be looked forward to. I think it's also the point where the story actually starts to move.

I have to agree that the groping scene was NOT needed. I really hate it when the artists increase the breast size of characters to extreme proportions, which they did enlarge them in that restaurant and groping scene. One, it doesn't look good; two, unnecessary; three, takes away from the show (I can't think of that word, but it takes away that...something). In my opinion, they made Karin's chest too big in general.

Anyways, I sort of enjoyed Winner's escapades and run-ins with the local police. It made the episode a lot lighter and enjoyable. The part where Maki is featured with her hair down looked really wierd. She looks a lot better with her hair drawn tied up.

Speaking about Karin biting Kenta. I had thoughts that if it did happen, Kenta would act pretty much the same as usual unlike a total personality change like his mom. This would be because he lives the life that he wants to. In episode 13 i'm predicting that she will bite him. If not though, Anju will stop her or something maybe. I havn't read the manga.

[pokemon123]

I'm sure that most, if not all of you guys reading this would know that there are a few groups subbing Karin.My question is "Which fansub group is the best?In terms of OP sequence n ED sequence and the subbing."

Thanks!

[Mina-sama]

Watch over all versions (or just skim through), then go with what you like best. That way you'll enjoy it the most.

[lemondude]

well I watched one episode and got bored, but from experience, the one with the most seed is the best.

[PastPrime]

Episode 12 really leaves the next episode to be looked forward to. I think it's also the point where the story actually starts to move.

I have to agree that the groping scene was NOT needed. I really hate it when the artists increase the breast size of characters to extreme proportions, which they did enlarge them in that restaurant and groping scene. One, it doesn't look good; two, unnecessary; three, takes away from the show (I can't think of that word, but it takes away that...something). In my opinion, they made Karin's chest too big in general.

Anyways, I sort of enjoyed Winner's escapades and run-ins with the local police. It made the episode a lot lighter and enjoyable. The part where Maki is featured with her hair down looked really wierd. She looks a lot better with her hair drawn tied up.

Speaking about Karin biting Kenta. I had thoughts that if it did happen, Kenta would act pretty much the same as usual unlike a total personality change like his mom. This would be because he lives the life that he wants to. In episode 13 i'm predicting that she will bite him. If not though, Anju will stop her or something maybe. I havn't read the manga.I have been thinking that he probably won't be affected. Then the reason will either be because it is true love, which will drive her father and brother crazy, or perhaps that his father was really a vampire, since we don't know anything about him.

[Willuknight]

AE and AFK are my personal favorites. Don't go with suck, they are speed subbers.

[marclemagne]

I have been thinking that he probably won't be affected. Then the reason will either be because it is true love, which will drive her father and brother crazy, or perhaps that his father was really a vampire, since we don't know anything about him.
This is an interesting thought because, and please correct me if I'm wrong, there have been some references to his strange eyes and stare but no real explanation. I wonder how that will develop. It certainly makes me want to see the next episode that much more.

[Calca]

AE and AFK are my personal favorites. Don't go with suck, they are speed subbers.

Have you ever watched We Suck's stuff? They are not speed subbers. They are quite well known in fact but all their animes seem to get licensed.

[Chiibi]

The only reason I prefer other groups over We Suck is because the karaoke is cooler. XD I was disappointed with We Suck's karaoke. Ha, that's a horrible reason. :heh:

[Vexx]

I like Suck's policy concerning subs... it is strict but pretty fair although if the R2 releases would go ahead and subtitle, then I'd have NO complaints at all. ((okay.. I'd still rant about the outrageous pricing in R2 land...))

Translation quality differs from project to project depending on the translator and editor .... the very same groups put out gold and shit depending on who the translator and editor was. So far my comparison viewing hasn't really sorted one out as outstanding above the others.
At the moment I'm using a.f.k mostly because I have all their releases unlike the others ... I'm not so concerned about getting a "pure" set on this one because I have a pretty good feeling it'll get licensed for R1 region.

[gogogoh]

I hope the next eps. come out. Karin is pretty good. At lest on the romance side.
when is the next coming out?

[Nergs]

I hope the next eps. come out. Karin is pretty good. At lest on the romance side.
when is the next coming out?

It's broadcasted on the 16th, which is far too long for my liking!

[Vexx]

Rule 1: don't ask when a fansub is going to be released. You can ask how they're doing, hows the kids, oh yall lost an editor I hear... they do it for free, for a hobby, because they're crazy.
((yes, sometimes I'd love to yell "aieee, please don't drop the series" or "don't die before you finish" ...))
Check the Forum FAQ for further details... which people should read before they post anyway.... on any forum... anywhere.

As for the broadcast dates in Japan... yeah.. there's been some pre-emption for other silly broadcasts. Karin will be aired there next week.
Gives ya time to catch up on other series.

[aznboafan]

i jst started watchin karin 2 days ago and now i jst finished ep. 12. and currently lovin it!!! especially the way they ended episode 12. leaves me dieing to watch the next one. I am just wondering what is the time difference of each episode. (for example "Bleach" comes out every tuesday in japan). i just want to know what day it comes out and also is episode 12 the latest episode?

thx so much

[Vexx]

ep 12 is the latest episode to have been fansubbed.... I *think* the fastest fansub group is running pretty close to a one or two week "time-to-fansub" release. I try not to pay too close attention though as long as the fansub drops are less than a month apart. Better for my sanity....

Kamichu! is making me insane at the moment... but at least I know why the iitran group is running slow (evils of RL plus the quality they put into their drops).

[Catgirls]

I am just wondering what is the time difference of each episode. (for example "Bleach" comes out every tuesday in japan). i just want to know what day it comes out and also is episode 12 the latest episode?Yes, episode 12 is the latest episode. I believe Karin airs Friday (might be around 12 AM or so), which puts that some time Thursday EST. The first fansub seems to show up with in a few days (3-5). Sometime sooner; sometimes later.

/edit: too slow.

[Kaoru Chujo]

An entertaining TV interview with the cast of Karin has shown up in ttorrentspace. First glimpse of Yahagi Sayuri (http://hashihime.atspace.com/Hashi_seiyuusN.html#yahagi), who seems young and shy for 19. Not exactly pretty, but deeply kawaii in her responses. Seems very natural in the clip. Comes across as a nice person.

Her voice sounds different from Karin's -- gentler, and wonderfully sweet. The high little voice makes you realize why her childhood friends called her a burikko ("kiddy-girl" -- see earlier interview (http://hashihime.atspace.com/yahagi_sayuri.htm)). Since we can now hear that Karin's voice was a construct, it makes me think Yahagi-san has some range.

Takahashi Mikako (Maki) is the host, practiced as she is from her long-running radio show. Inokuchi Yuka (Anju) is lovely, and unintentionally hilarious. Suwabe Junichi (Ren) gives me a good feeling. And Konishi Katsuyuki (Kenta) is a jokester who takes over the show.

The event is to announce the launch date (in March) for a Karin vocal and drama album, in which the three women sing, and in which Anju becomes an idol.

The clip is in Japanese, but there is a text file with it that tells who's who and outlines what is said.

By the way, yes, Karin airs Thursday nights at midnight, Japan time.

[Vexx]

Okay... I have to say Maki's VA is darned cute (Takahashi Mikako) and quite chatty.
Kind of like Maki, heh.

Anju's VA was kind of gothy cute (Inokuchi Yuka).

It was interesting listening to Karin's VA and her vocal range ... once she gets over her bashfulness (evidenced in the interview) she's got some potential.

The two guys (Katsuyuki and Junichi - Kenta and Ren) are serious goofballs. I think my favorite part of character CDs are when they just let the VAs riff in the final track.

Thanks for the tip.

[Pellissier]

Yup, this morning, opening TT, it was the first filename jumping to my eyes, and it was a nice surprise since I was actually quite curious about this VA crew ^^

I wonder why they didn't include Winner-kun's seiyuu as well :heh:
No seriously, it would have been curious to hear if his voice is actually so annoying, or if he's such a great actor instead.

Takahashi Mikako is beautiful, really beautiful. It didn't appear from some of the pictures I had seen of her, she seemed just quite normal. And she's clearly very experienced, she leaded that mini promotion with a style.

Yahagi Sayuri, she too was a bit cuter than in the pics. She didn't use the "Karin mode" for her voice, although in a couple of moments near the end (when she was reading that outline) I could definitely recognize Karin's voice stamp. A very sweet and lovely voice overall, undoubtfully.
A very shy girl, by the way. Fitting her anime character.

Inokuchi Yuka, another shy one. Actually, the voice she uses in dubbing Anju is quite different, low and without a tone. So she was not recognizable here.

The two guys, well.. quite sure of themselves aren't they ^^ ? While this behaviour belongs to Ren's character, it's not the same for Kenta, who is always so humble. By the way, also Kenta's voice was not recognizable.