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Dark Lord Zenigame
2006-06-12, 03:04
Nope, that's it. Rozen Maiden runs in Comic Birz, which is a seinen magazine.

Seinen = young man.

Lost
2006-06-12, 03:08
Do you think the the become Alice is become in "human"?

I think its unlikely, since Rozen is a doll maker, and it says from the start that he wants to create the perfect doll. However, that would be nice, them turning Human. Drooool.. Human SuiseiSeki.

What will happen with Megu?

I have no idea, but I want her to live and survive with optimism. However I think its more realistic and emotional if she dies protecting Gin, or dies giving her power to Gin, so I'm fine with that also.

In the third season/movie Jun is back to the school?

Why not, but I doubt so, since that will really limit his time; as in, he won't be able to spend as much time with the dolls - and that just won't do, we need to see more of Jun and Sui chibi moments and Jun and Shinku shin-kick moments.

Nori will be a importan participation in the third season/movie?

I really can't say, because there's nothing to suggest she will. Then again, there's also nothing to suggest that she won't be playing a bigger role then she already is. However, going by her role in the past 2 seasons, I think its pretty likely that she'll just remain as a side character with little or no focus.

Suigintou will finish unity with her other sisters?

I certainty hope so. For me, the best would be Shinku and Gin fighting together as allies.

How can the Rozen Maidens defeat to Kirakishou?

They need to stick together, seriously. They need to fight as a team and use their powers together against Kira. They can't let themselves get divided again like in S2.

Do you think that Rozen Maiden is a shoujo?

Already answered by Dark Lord.

:)

thanks, radiosity ;)

TamaNeko
2006-06-12, 03:15
I am the doll of my master.
Ring is my bond, and Sui Dream is my spirit.
I have picked on many chibis.
Unaware of tolerance.
Nor aware of shame.
Having withstood humiliation to love a chibi-human.
Yet, these hands will never hold any of them.
So as I pray, "UNLIMITED DESU WORKS!" :D

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9601/11500706752734be.jpg

Dark Lord Zenigame
2006-06-12, 03:30
XD

That's almost as good as Unlimited Drill Works. XD

And the picture just makes it even better...

Zenemis
2006-06-12, 04:28
How can the Rozen Maidens defeat to Kirakishou?

They need to stick together, seriously. They need to fight as a team and use their powers together against Kira. They can't let themselves get divided again like in S2.


Get Hina to throw on a Taunt and a few Sunders, keep the heals focused on her and keep the DPS high through out the fight, might want to keep Kana at the back firing Tranq Shots when Kira gains Enrage. Easy Victory.

:uhoh:

Alu
2006-06-12, 04:32
Get Hina to throw on a Taunt and a few Sunders, keep the heals focused on her and keep the DPS high through out the fight, might want to keep Kana at the back firing Tranq Shots when Kira gains Enrage. Easy Victory.


eh... Isn't Hina Ichigo without! her Rosa Mystica... :p

So in other words.., she is pretty much lifeless ^^
Also.. and I honestly do not see her moving (if she ever does again in fact) up until the last episodes of Season 3... so.. :)

Zenemis
2006-06-12, 04:53
She had a soulstone XD

But in all honesty, Kira would probably take out the other RMs, leaving Shinku to beat her herself, with Jun's help of course - this wouldn't happen on "fan-based" terms, but I feel it would be a likely outcome, with natural bias towards our main characters.

Maybe some of my own bias too ;)

Mincemaker
2006-06-12, 07:27
Get Hina to throw on a Taunt and a few Sunders, keep the heals focused on her and keep the DPS high through out the fight, might want to keep Kana at the back firing Tranq Shots when Kira gains Enrage. Easy Victory.

:uhoh:

Wrong!!! Hina is no tanker! Get Suigintou (tank AND nuke) to use a Charge, followed by two sunders. Then the rest moves in to the battle! Shinku can be offtank! And whenever Suigintou is in trouble, she can just move back and kite WITH her high damage feather blades. And when she is REALLY in trouble, Suiseiseki can conjure a temporary shield and Shinku can Sunder to tank the aggro so Suigintou can recompose herself! Kanaria can also nuke with her violin attacks!

And Suiseiseki can also restrain Kira so Suigintou, Kanaria and Shinku can continue to pummel her without getting damaged!

And whenever Suigintou gets enough rage, and Kirakishou's health is at 25% max, Suigintou can finish the fight with EXECUTE!

Lol, World of Warcraft just sneaked into Rozen Maiden. And yes, I propose Gin-sama to be main tank! She has the rage and the skills!

physics223
2006-06-12, 07:32
No, Dwarven Kanaria can simply Assassinate Kira. (Oops, DotA.) lol

And then, Pudge Shinku (lol) can beat the heck out of her as well. ;)

Gosh, I know so little about those heroes.

Mincemaker
2006-06-12, 07:40
BTW, none of the dolls seem to be healers. And Gin-sama can summon her legion of broken dolls, and Shinku can summon her legion of stuffed toy knights and then they can have a 40-doll-raid against Kirakishou!

Zenemis
2006-06-12, 08:54
Jun is all the healing you ever need :D

Well, he's got Bandages.

I feel so tempted to turn the RM crew into War3 Heroes, but it's just not the same without custom models... *hint hint* ;)

RM-FAN
2006-06-12, 10:08
Nope, that's it. Rozen Maiden runs in Comic Birz, which is a seinen magazine.

Seinen = young man.

but ¿what you wanna mean? ¿tha Rozen Maiden is a shonen of the same kind that dragon ball, naruto, yu-yu hakusho, bleach, one piece?

come on, RM dont has a story that can be consider shonen or seinen

i dont see the story can be dirigite to men

Flo
2006-06-12, 10:10
No happy ending for Suigintou in today's Junk June. (Not in a very happy mood with Aussie vs Japan WC06 match)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5021/meguginbadend2hl.jpg

Lost
2006-06-12, 10:13
She had a soulstone XD

But in all honesty, Kira would probably take out the other RMs, leaving Shinku to beat her herself, with Jun's help of course - this wouldn't happen on "fan-based" terms, but I feel it would be a likely outcome, with natural bias towards our main characters. (mine edit: you mean character)

Maybe some of my own bias too ;)
Haha I hear you.. but thats the thing I'm sick of (hence I agree with "not fan-based terms"), I'm honestly sick of seeing Shinku take the limelight and always going on to the last fight by herself. I mean, we've already seen that TWICE... take a break peach-pit! Lets go for formations this time!

(Once again, I'd like to stress we're assuming an S3 will be here. Or is it just me? :heh: Watever.)

Michael, your turn to come online and chat with me :p I just got S.T. :)

physics223
2006-06-12, 10:23
Nah, this time it's going to be Kanaria who's saving the day ... OMG I'm going to LOL when that happens.

Mincemaker
2006-06-12, 10:32
Nooo! There has to be a doll-raid against Kirakishou! Make it Suigintou and Shinku tankers, Kanaria nuke, Suiseiseki snare and Jun healer + legions of broken dolls and stuff toys to form a 40-man/doll-raid against Kirakishou!

And Kirakishou raid must have 3 phases! Just like fighting Nefarian!!!

Then she must drop Epics when she dies!

And the raid must use DKP for Epics! Lol!

Sorry, too much WoW.

Lost
2006-06-12, 10:51
Nooo! There has to be a doll-raid against Kirakishou! Make it Suigintou and Shinku tankers, Kanaria nuke, Suiseiseki snare and Jun healer + legions of broken dolls and stuff toys to form a 40-man/doll-raid against Kirakishou!
Well thats basically what I want (tho in different terms :heh:) I want them to end the battle together.. is that too much to wish for? Somehow I think it is.

Ah.. June's still young. Anymore Junk?

grey_moon
2006-06-12, 15:04
Hello again everyone!

Just read 30 pages I think, head about to explode....

Alu - Glad to read your eloquent posts as always and that had to be one of the longest single forum posts I have read yet. Sniffle and I missed my chance to argue with Noozu ( <- sorry can't remember your name).

abang brother - Woo hoo glad to see someone else flying the Hina flag, and personally I still have not gotten over her death... *cry*

I had so many comments I wanted to make, but it would have much sense at all since I'm so behind you all!

Were the rumour about S3 confirmed? I might have missed someones post on it :confused:

As for Hina's role, I think she would be interupt, her crying, crayon, car attacks might not be all that damaging, but they sure would be distracting :)

Zenemis
2006-06-12, 21:12
Well thats basically what I want (tho in different terms :heh:) I want them to end the battle together.. is that too much to wish for? Somehow I think it is.


I'd be fine with that, as long as it's not a DBZ "Combine our attacks all at once moment".

It ought to be a more memorable moment, perhaps some interaction between Alice and Kira, (Yes, without Kira's Roza Mystica), would be nice.

EDIT: (Or WITH Kira's RM in some way?)

Mincemaker
2006-06-12, 22:20
I propose this for Kira raid!

Phase 1: Kira launches vines here and there to entangle the raiding doll/stuff toy/junk and kiss them to kill them. No standing close to Kirakishou. Kiting is the way!

Phase 2: Kirakishou goes all out, launching her AOE over and over again, and slaming/impaling/slashing anything that gets too close viciously. Gin and Shinku has to bear the brunt of attacks while the others throw their DPS.

Phase 3: Kirakishou summons her minions, as she continues to be weakened. Battle continues on. This is final phase!

RM-FAN
2006-06-12, 23:09
hey, somebody know if there will be another videogame of Rozen Maiden?

for Nintendo DS o PSP? who´s know?

Dark Steno
2006-06-12, 23:18
Or what if the Rozen Mystical is actually Alice's body parts. 1 Head, 1 Torso, 1 Hip, 2 Arms, 2 Legs.

Many many years ago Rozen had a daugther named Alice, then some shit happen and Rozen become psycho and killed Alice then slice her up into 7 parts. Then relized what disgusting and horrible thing he did and a plan to revive Alice is set in motion, thus creating the dolls, and use alchemy shit to turn Alice's body parts into rozen mysticals and put it into the dolls.
Rosa mysticae for building up/revive back Alice? What will happen to those motionless dolls? Hmm, I think Jum-kun wil make something like getting them altogether in making a new superb combination doll. You all still remember Transformers series right? Like that Decepticon construction bots where they merging up to make a new and big plus powerful bot. It's like a final battle between King Kong and Godzilla!

Zenemis
2006-06-12, 23:46
I propose this for Kira raid!

Phase 1: Kira launches vines here and there to entangle the raiding doll/stuff toy/junk and kiss them to kill them. No standing close to Kirakishou. Kiting is the way!

Phase 2: Kirakishou goes all out, launching her AOE over and over again, and slaming/impaling/slashing anything that gets too close viciously. Gin and Shinku has to bear the brunt of attacks while the others throw their DPS.

Phase 3: Kirakishou summons her minions, as she continues to be weakened. Battle continues on. This is final phase!

Suisekiseki is the Living Bomb!

...

"Healsu ~desu!"

abang brother
2006-06-13, 04:29
Wow, i may say Kirakisou's power is powerfull than any of the RM?

@grey_moon =Hina's flag will always up by me! :D ~ I oso crying when i saw Hina died!

Dark Steno
2006-06-13, 06:03
Wow, i may say Kirakisou's power is powerfull than any of the RM?

@grey_moon =Hina's flag will always up by me! :D ~ I oso crying when i saw Hina died!
Cry baby. :p

Seriously, I never really crying when watching sad movies/series/any shits.

grey_moon
2006-06-13, 06:16
Cry baby. :p

Seriously, I never really crying when watching sad movies/series/any shits.

I cried like a little girl the first time I watched that scene, and even after my nth time of watching it I still get choked up watching it.

The only thing that did worry me was I felt a twinge of saddness when I went to the Gormet Burger Bar thinking Hina would like this.... :twitch:

Rosa mysticae for building up/revive back Alice? What will happen to those motionless dolls?

I think we have all touched on what we think the Rosa Mystica are, I'm not too sure if I have posted my idea of what I think of them....

I think they are modified souls... As explained in the Clown/Pooh dismemberment episode all dolls have a soul, but the souls don't normally allow them to move or do anything else in our reality. There is an oriental superstition about leaving a doll untouched for 99 years and it comes alive *shudder*, I don't remember the details of these things too well :p

What makes the Rosa Mystica special is that they mini cracks in our reality... Like portable n-fields. This would explain why the maidens feel soft and can eat etc, because they are not just being animated, but they warping our reality and becoming something that is alive when they should'nt be so.

Oh to the ppl who say that Bara acts like she isn't alive, for me the last episode where she is breaking apart, the interaction between her and Enju says to me otherwise :p

abang brother
2006-06-13, 06:21
Cry baby. :p

Seriously, I never really crying when watching sad movies/series/any shits.


Because you're a big shit.

grey_moon lol~ i oso like that .. cry when saw that scene:twitch:

Mincemaker
2006-06-13, 06:24
Yes, the Hinaichigo's death scene is sad, but to be truthful, I didn't shed a single tear. It just kinda ruins my day, and my appetite.

Oh, and got myself trashed four times in a row in open PVP.

Dark Steno
2006-06-13, 06:43
lol you guys are deep shits with sad movies. :p Maybe because I always have something with sad stuffs and emo, that part doesn't really make me cry. Of course it's sad. Just not sad enough to me I think. :heh:

Zenemis
2006-06-13, 06:55
Last time I cried watching a movie was in Troy when Ajax died. NOOOOOO AJAAXXXX...

Saikano came close, but no cookie D:

abang brother
2006-06-13, 06:55
As expected from you.

Back to topic,
everyone. What is Kirakisou power ? I only know that her power his kissing people then...

blitz1/2
2006-06-13, 06:57
As expected from you.

Back to topic,
everyone. What is Kirakisou power ? I only know that her power his kissing people then...

She could control/use vines as well.

Zenemis
2006-06-13, 07:03
kissing people, planting a "seed" in them. causing vines burst from the victim's body, destroying them from the inside - I think that's how Hina got "popped".

solwyvern
2006-06-13, 07:03
During the 'Hina's Death' episode, I was actually more frustrated by the appearance of Enju, making himself known as Rozen. (at the time I did not know it was Enju, and not Rozen)

~
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4320/11492756551955tq.jpg

btw, welcome back grey! ^^)

blitz1/2
2006-06-13, 07:04
and then vines burst from the victim's body, destroying them from the inside - I think.

That is after Kira kisses someone. But she can control vines like Hina Ichigo.

During the 'Hina's Death' episode, I was actually more frustrated by the appearance of Enju, making himself known as Rozen. (at the time I did not know it was Enju, and not Rozen)

~
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5701/11492756551955tq9ez.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11492756551955tq9ez.jpg)

btw, welcome back grey! ^^)


Wow. Hina is cosplaying as Bara. How Kawaii!

RM-FAN
2006-06-13, 07:08
i got a dude...the manga # 6 is the final of the story, o there will be manga # 7?

abang brother
2006-06-13, 07:09
I see. So kirakisou power is abit similiar to Chibi-Ichigo.

Maybe that is Barasuishou is boring and playing cosplay. :D

Lost
2006-06-13, 07:10
grey holy cow!, where were you?? :) Welcome back dude :D

I'm one of those who cried when Hina died, and I'm proud of it! In fact for me it was a little special since I knew before-hand that she would die (thanks to this thread, yes I got spoiled :)) so I actually started crying, or at least tearing up, waaay before her death episode. This one scene in particular really really got to me.. Damn it I still get emotional.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1803/hina4nr.jpg

abang brother
2006-06-13, 07:13
grey holy cow!, where were you?? :) Welcome back dude :D

I'm one of those who cried when Hina died, and I'm proud of it! In fact for me it was a little special since I knew before-hand that she would die (thanks to this thread, yes I got spoiled :)) so I actually started crying, or at least tearing up, waaay before her death episode. This one scene in particular really really got to me.. Damn it I still get emotional.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1803/hina4nr.jpg


I cry when she said tht she happy and she is very thankfull to Jum,Stinku,Tomoe and others for burning sometime with her ... GOD!! AM I CRYING?? If she die straight away i dont think i will cry but she die so long and confess that make people sad wor!!

blitz1/2
2006-06-13, 07:17
I got a feeling that I would cry very hard if Kirakishou is going to get a long painful death.

Lost
2006-06-13, 07:24
I cry when she said tht she happy and she is very thankfull to Jum,Stinku,Tomoe and others for burning sometime with her ... GOD!! AM I CRYING?? If she die straight away i dont think i will cry but she die so long and confess that make people sad wor!!
Thats the beauty isn't it? Seeing how she matured so much, yet how it was all wasted anyway since she had to go. Emo emo emo. I love. :love:

I got a feeling that I would cry very hard if Kirakishou is going to get a long painful death.
If it would be something like Bara's death, I would get sad, but not necessarily cry for her.

solwyvern
2006-06-13, 07:26
I got a feeling that I would cry very hard if Kirakishou is going to get a long painful death.

Did you not cry when Barasuisho crumbled and shattered in the arms of her father? /Makes me want to vector that scene. :D

Scribble
2006-06-13, 07:30
It's surprising that no-one is updating us with the plot events of the manga. I'm really curious as to what's going on.

abang brother
2006-06-13, 07:32
@Blitz = Kira only? Then barasuishou? You left her behind! look .. she is crying!!!Actually, i like when bara died .. she so evil .. lalalla~

@Lost = That's the maricle of the anime.. EMO!~

solwyvern
2006-06-13, 07:33
mo4r Hinaichigo.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5130/11500821349838xs.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11500821349838xs.jpg)http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2585/11490096225134yl.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11490096225134yl.jpg)http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7245/11490173255021fu.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11490173255021fu.jpg)http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7028/11491176510239fn.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11491176510239fn.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/396/11497155632189jg.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11497155632189jg.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9166/11497153410289uj.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11497153410289uj.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6474/11497152599583en.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11497152599583en.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1937/11493796193668ov.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11493796193668ov.jpg)

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6691/11391280496974jc.gif

abang brother
2006-06-13, 07:36
mo4r Hinaichigo.


The first picture, who is that girl? Is it HinaIchigo First medium?:eyespin:

Mincemaker
2006-06-13, 07:56
About the superstition regarding Porcelain dolls, I was told the exact same thing.

So, maybe you guys wanna do something about prolonging your life, go get a well-made Rozen Maiden doll replica and wait for 99 years since it is made, and see if they started moving and, in the case of Suiseiseki, starts calling you a 'chibi ningen'.

In regards with dead Barasuishou, no, I am not sad at all. Neither am I sad when Gin-sama died in season 1, but in season 2, her death was sadder.

But she returned in the end and all is well.

abang brother
2006-06-13, 08:00
Gin-sama is lucky!
Every time she dies, she must revive back! :p

TamaNeko
2006-06-13, 10:30
So, maybe you guys wanna do something about prolonging your life, go get a well-made Rozen Maiden doll replica and wait for 99 years since it is made, and see if they started moving and, in the case of Suiseiseki, starts calling you a 'chibi ningen'.

Why wait for 99 years? In a few decades Japanese robots will be advanced enough for that. :D

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8068/desu0ev.jpg

physics223
2006-06-13, 10:53
So ... Sui has 'plans' on Jun, eh?

Dark Lord Zenigame
2006-06-13, 11:04
Nosebleed... x_x

physics223
2006-06-13, 11:09
You know, if Sui was only became a veritable human, Jun would bang her. Badly. Her wish would really come true.

blitz1/2
2006-06-13, 11:56
Did you not cry when Barasuisho crumbled and shattered in the arms of her father? /Makes me want to vector that scene. :D

I didn't cry, it was just emotional. But like Barasuishou, I hardly show emotions when watching anime.

@Blitz = Kira only? Then barasuishou? You left her behind! look .. she is crying!!!Actually, i like when bara died .. she so evil .. lalalla~

I don't get what you're saying in the first sentence.


Anyways, can't wait for Kirakishou in season 3. But she should wear white not light pink though.

RM-FAN
2006-06-13, 14:08
hey, no body know if the story finished with the manga number 6?

please, i hope an answer

abang brother
2006-06-13, 18:12
Why wait for 99 years? In a few decades Japanese robots will be advanced enough for that. :D

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4146/desu0ev0rz0hf.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desu0ev0rz0hf.jpg)


Sui is getting wild.

Rus
2006-06-13, 18:34
:) unyu
http://m16.dax.ru/flashcards/get.phtml?p=103014
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8344/ane206hy.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ane206hy.jpg)http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4430/0043as1bn.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0043as1bn.jpg)

blitz1/2
2006-06-13, 18:45
:) unyu
http://m16.dax.ru/flashcards/get.phtml?p=103014
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8344/ane206hy.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ane206hy.jpg)

Wow. Do we have another Kirakishou fanboy here as well?

Nice picture of Kira.

TamaNeko
2006-06-14, 02:23
hey, no body know if the story finished with the manga number 6?

please, i hope an answer

I know it's not yet finished, that much is certain. A chapter of the manga recently came out after the authors had a 3-month break, IIRC. But it takes a while until those chapters are compiled into one volume. Volume 6 was the last one released so far and there probably won't be one for several more months.

grey_moon
2006-06-14, 06:34
You know, if Sui was only became a veritable human, Jun would bang her. Badly. Her wish would really come true.

I'm not too sure if Jun is errr of the age (mentally) yet... Apart from what we can guess of the mags he reads in the loo, there is no indication that I can see that he has sex on the mind... Nori on the other hand.... :eyespin:

@Lost - Its great being back, how I missed my daily excursions to the RM thread....

Mincemaker
2006-06-14, 06:38
I'm not too sure if Jun is errr of the age (mentally) yet... Apart from what we can guess of the mags he reads in the loo, there is no indication that I can see that he has sex on the mind... Nori on the other hand.... :eyespin:

@Lost - Its great being back, how I missed my daily excursions to the RM thread....

I think on the back of Jun's mind, in regards to Suiseiseki, is always 'Demon Doll', not erotic images of her naked.

And when Suiseiseki becomes a human, Jun will still think of her as a demon, but more correctly, as the 'Demoness', the mischief-making specialist. And from there onwards, will always walk around the house equipped with a baseball bat, a keen eye, and a sharp hearing, and shin and groin guards.

Potatochobit
2006-06-14, 06:40
naw JUM isnt perverted. remember when the dolls were changing clothes? thats whey he realized they were really girls and got embarrassed.

and yeah, i think he always has a 'beware of suiseki' stuck in the back of his head.

Flo
2006-06-14, 07:17
For Junk June. Look what I found. :D
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/639/11499568675906cd.jpg

blitz1/2
2006-06-14, 07:22
For Junk June. Look what I found. :D
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7633/11499568675906cd6pn.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11499568675906cd6pn.jpg)

What the heck is that?

Flo
2006-06-14, 07:25
What the heck is that?
Suigintou and Spiderman's arch-enemy/rival Venom

Mincemaker
2006-06-14, 07:35
Holy shit! Lethal combo!

What's with Gin-sama's chest? Looks larger than normal.

abang brother
2006-06-14, 08:09
If that Gin's medium, i think she can use lotsa energy more than Stinku use Jum energy.

grey_moon
2006-06-14, 09:44
Boggle I wonder what will happen if the venom creature decides that Gin would make a better host.... Feathers and black gunky stuff, prbly won't mix and mess up her wings!

Lost
2006-06-14, 09:46
Yeah, hence the look on her face: With this medium I pwn anybody. Nice picture.

And from there onwards, will always walk around the house equipped with a baseball bat, a keen eye, and a sharp hearing, and shin and groin guards.
Yep. Ouch. Considering she'll be the same height as him now, her kicks won't really be suited for his shin anymore. :heh: Dang. I can imagine her giving him a kick in the groin and while he lies squirming on the floor, she realises what she has done and runs away blushing.

What's with Gin-sama's chest? Looks larger than normal.
Hee hee dude, you should know by now...

Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-14, 12:32
Hello, hello. Long time lurker, first time poster on this thread.

If you need proof, I know that Flo wants people to fap over Suiseiseki from page 161. (BTW, I won't).

I had this idea for an AMV about Suigintou but (1) have not hat the time to do it and (2) refuse to make an AMV that has subtitles in it. The song for my idea would be "Carnival of Rust" by a Finnish band, Poets of the Fall (it's in English btw). Here is a link where you can hear the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miu0bW0F7fY

(It's not a video. I just put a picture of Gin as a placeholder). I think the song is appropriate for her, if you pay attention to the lyrics and especially the chorus.

Here also is the music video by the band themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAp3iaTl89c

Alu
2006-06-14, 13:24
Hi everyone.., sorry if I haven't been online much.., I am currently having HUGE pc problems.. and probably as of tomorrow for 3 days or so I will be going through the hardware, formating the disks and installing everything again :(
So.., wish me luck ^^

Anyway.., (after having "burned" 31 DVD's with backups) since I am going to format everything I decided to try some things out today that I should have long ago.., such as ImageShack registration.

Altough.., this is Junk June.., I realy needed to post this.., since to me.., its one of the cutest pictures I have :)


http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8097/shinku039tc.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shinku039tc.jpg)

Oki oki.., now for some Gin :D

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4897/suigintou091cz.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suigintou091cz.jpg)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5679/rozenmaiden020wt.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rozenmaiden020wt.jpg)

@grey_moon : I know its a bit late.., but I'm terribly sorry Grey.., as for the reasons above.. I was not able to log in recently..; and even though I can now.., everything is Very unstable (to say the least)
So.., even though its late..

Welcome back ! :)

I hope you enjoyed reading those 30 pages :p ; specialy given the lenght of some of them :heh:

Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-14, 21:15
mo4r Hinaichigo.


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4672/11391280496974jc0fa.th.gif (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11391280496974jc0fa.gif)
I'm soooooo stealing that.

blitz1/2
2006-06-14, 21:18
Where's the Kira? Need Kira badly...

Oh wait, it is still Junk June.

NezoR
2006-06-14, 22:58
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2954/frw4cz.jpg

Lost
2006-06-15, 00:23
I think the song is appropriate for her, if you pay attention to the lyrics and especially the chorus.
Well, hi Cardiac Glycoside. Welcome to the regular posters club! :)

I heard the song, and I don't know, it feels like a Gin song yes, particularly the mood ambience(?). But I wouldnt say the lyrics fit Gin too much, unless you're gonna do a Megu-Gin aspect. And, did I hear Lust in the first part of the chorus (before Carnival of Rust) or was that Rust? :uhoh: Well, okay, maybe Lust for becoming Alice.

Alu, all the best!! May the Gin be with you.

Mincemaker
2006-06-15, 01:50
Boggle I wonder what will happen if the venom creature decides that Gin would make a better host.... Feathers and black gunky stuff, prbly won't mix and mess up her wings!
Seeing that Gin-sama's a doll, Venom's symbiote most probably won't consider her a potential host.

abang brother
2006-06-15, 02:21
The website i search for Gin picture down. So may not post picture of Gin for a while.

Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-15, 03:24
Well, hi Cardiac Glycoside. Welcome to the regular posters club! :)

I heard the song, and I don't know, it feels like a Gin song yes, particularly the mood ambience(?). But I wouldnt say the lyrics fit Gin too much, unless you're gonna do a Megu-Gin aspect. And, did I hear Lust in the first part of the chorus (before Carnival of Rust) or was that Rust? :uhoh: Well, okay, maybe Lust for becoming Alice.

Alu, all the best!! May the Gin be with you.Perhaps an apologetic is in order.

D' you breath the name of your saviour in your hour of need,This could be used in reference to the Suigintou/Rozen "relationship." Rozen is not explicitly depicted as a saviour, but the Divine imagery is definitely there. Suigintou desperately wants to be whole, perhaps being Alice will let her achieve that. This is her "hour of need."
n' taste the blame if the flavor should remind you of greed,
Of implication, insinuation and ill will, till' you cannot lie still,Can refer to Suigintou's method of playing the Alice game. I'm not sure about her "tasting the blame" but she must be willing to do all sorts of evil things and accept them to get what she wants.
In all this turmoil, before red cape and foil come closing in for a killRed cape = Shinku. Foil is a sword of course, but Shinku uses a cane. :heh:

Come feed the rain
Cos I'm thirsty for your love dancing underneath the skies of lust
Yeah feed the rain
Cos without your love my life ain't nothing but this carnival of rustThe "money" lyrics. Suigintou's N-field is a world of decay, much like the Carnival of Rust in the music video. Suigintou is "thirsty" for the love of Rozen. But I will concede that "lust" doesn't make sense since she doesn't seem to have any sexual attatchments.

The chorus, I think, can apply just as well to Megu as it can to Suigintou.

It's all a game, avoiding failure, when true colors will bleedThe Alice Game, of course. Suigintou is obviously trying to portray herself as powerful and ruthless when truthfully she is an incomplete doll.
All in the name of misbehavior and the things we don't needActually, this would apply more to the pacifistic dolls than Suigintou. They fight for Alice, but is it worth it if they must destroy their loved ones?
I lust for after no disaster can touch us anymore
And more than ever, I hope to never fall, where enough is not the same it was beforeSuigintou wants to become complete, and perfect and just as much she wants to cure Megu ("no disaster can touch us").

Does Suigintou harbour only disgust for the others? At this point, "enough" is not good for her. It's not enough that she is the first among the Rozen Maidens or that Shinku wishes to reconcile. (OK, that was a crappy explanation).

Don't walk away, don't walk away, oh, when the world is burning
Don't walk away, don't walk away, oh, when the heart is yearning I can seriously see this last part of the song where Suigintou is burning in Ep.12 of season one. This of course, is when we find out that her heart is yearning to be Alice.

Lost
2006-06-15, 03:34
Ah.. I see, yes, it does fit quite well. But it will need very very good timing and images to bring those associations across to the viewer. So, when will you be starting? :p :)

Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-15, 03:40
Nowhere in the near future. I need RAW episodes or DVD with removable subtitles in order to do anything.

grey_moon
2006-06-15, 06:41
Firstly pls forgive the disjointedness of this since all the pages I read to catch up has become a big blur!

This whole thing about Alice and becoming perfect... Someone earlier mentioned something about why are all the maidens so different (I think they even went as far to suggest a different Rozen for each doll!!!). Anyway what I think is that Rozen has absolutely no idea what Alice is, hence the differences in each maiden. Could Gin be the catalyst for the whole Alice thing? Was he stumped when he tried to make her torso? Then suffering from "alt-tisis" he starts on Kaneria, then Sui etc etc... In the end he goes "gah what the hell i'll make up something that sounds interesting and let them work it out for me..."

@alu - thank you it is good to be back, and good luck on fixing your pc!

Rus
2006-06-15, 06:42
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5264/poster1941a4ea.th.png (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=poster1941a4ea.png)

physics223
2006-06-15, 07:31
There are more posters in this thread. That's so cool. :0

abang brother
2006-06-15, 08:16
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7530/frw4cz7ww.th.jpg (http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frw4cz7ww.jpg)


That picture is so cool!! Anymore cool picture like that? :D

Lost
2006-06-15, 08:27
In the end he goes "gah what the hell i'll make up something that sounds interesting and let them work it out for me..."
Thats the theory I personally favored, where he leaves it to evolution or selection by fighting (natural selection, survival of the fittest) to derive Alice for himself :)

physics223
2006-06-15, 08:38
It seems that the third season would be even darker than the second season. It's not how to become Alice that most of the dolls would be dealing with - it's dealing with a psychotic sister, the one with the only drive to become Alice by killing them all. Most of the dolls have no more interest in fighting, and it would only re-hash the second season if they recycled the thought. I'm thinking it would be a collective effort fighting against the manipulative and powerful Kirakishou. That's only if there will be a third season, however.

abang brother
2006-06-15, 08:59
You think the last 4 dolls that survive will try to defeat that Kirakisou and find HinaIchigo and Souseiseki Roza Mystica?

grey_moon
2006-06-15, 10:34
You think the last 4 dolls that survive will try to defeat that Kirakisou and find HinaIchigo and Souseiseki Roza Mystica?

Personally the ending I hope for is that Kira will be about to pwn everyone and suddenly a pink light floods the room and Hina reappears taking Kira out with a smelly diaper attack!

Actually I really hope she returns early on in the series so we get more Hina goodness. If Gin can res twice surely Hina can manage it once!

physics223
2006-06-15, 10:35
They'll probably be torn between fighting a sister they don't want to fight and living.

Lost
2006-06-15, 10:43
Actually I really hope she returns early on in the series so we get more Hina goodness. If Gin can res twice surely Hina can manage it once!
Sadly, Gin had legitimate reasons to be res, but Hina, Hina had legitimate reasons to die. Damn you Stinku for taking her out.. :(

edit: ZOMG people, we're making it to 4000!!

Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-15, 10:51
Hina was the only one to die on a technicality.

grey_moon
2006-06-15, 10:54
Sadly, Gin had legitimate reasons to res, but Hina, Hina had legitimate reasons to die. Damn you Stinku for taking her out.. :(

Hmmm a legitamate reason.... How about, in the afterlife she gorges herself on all of the 9000 year old holy strawberries and gets evicted out of heaven. Reborn from a stone egg on the side of Mount Fuji, she has to make her way Jun's house... Gah I am clutching here... But the legit reasons for Gin were well written into the story so I can't see why they couldn't do something just as good for Hina and Sou. I do admit the idea that Jun may res them late on as his entry into maestro-dom does seem the most likely (to me).

physics223
2006-06-15, 11:06
Don't worry, if anything, I believe S3 will have a happy ending, except for Kirakishou and Barasuishou perhaps.

Lost
2006-06-15, 12:23
Don't worry, if anything, I believe S3 will have a happy ending, except for Kirakishou and Barasuishou perhaps.
I hope so too, because Rozen Maiden just wouldnt be Rozen Maiden without HinaIchigo.

Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-15, 12:28
There will definitely be a third season or at least a movie/OVA--if not, Traumend will prove to have been a complete waste.

abang brother
2006-06-15, 12:54
There are alots of RM fns. If there is no S3, there will be a disaster!

Hina and Sou damm you stinku kill Hina .. er gin ... Bad gin ..

Rus
2006-06-15, 17:00
Russians to like kirakishou &bara
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9310/113901907ix.jpg

blitz1/2
2006-06-15, 17:17
Russians to like kirakishou &bara

Huh? I don't get it.

RM-FAN
2006-06-15, 18:12
hey, ago two days i receive this message in Minitokyo, i write this:

"As can you see, i love Rozen Maiden, tell me...do you know if the third season or an OVA is coming?

jeje, you know, i like much your scans, are very very good, and i hope that you submit more ^^

well that all for today, take care and see you around

sayonara"

and the answer was this:

"The answer is late.

The confirmation was able to be taken.

The name of Rozen Maiden at 3rd season has been understood.

The name is Rozen Maiden Erwachen.

It has not been understood whether it is a TV broadcasting or it is OVA."

what say you?

Zenemis
2006-06-15, 19:04
Who did you receive the message from?

Cos if that guy is right, I'm gonna be a very happy muffin this week.

Flo
2006-06-15, 20:16
hey, ago two days i receive this message in Minitokyo, i write this:

"As can you see, i love Rozen Maiden, tell me...do you know if the third season or an OVA is coming?

jeje, you know, i like much your scans, are very very good, and i hope that you submit more ^^

well that all for today, take care and see you around

sayonara"

and the answer was this:

"The answer is late.

The confirmation was able to be taken.

The name of Rozen Maiden at 3rd season has been understood.

The name is Rozen Maiden Erwachen.

It has not been understood whether it is a TV broadcasting or it is OVA."

what say you?
I think this is bullshit. Minitokyo doesn't mean shit unless there's an original link saying there's the 3rd season.

blitz1/2
2006-06-15, 20:52
Russians to like kirakishou &bara
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9310/113901907ix.jpg

Oh never mind. I get it. A cross between Bara and Kira.


She's also a music star! Oh yes.:love:

Catgirls
2006-06-15, 21:00
I think this is bullshit. Minitokyo doesn't mean shit unless there's an original link saying there's the 3rd season.Agreed. I call shenanigans. If there's to be a third season, the source needs to be linked to a Press Release or at the very least a quote from the creators or even a legitimate magazine or a matchbook found at a truck stop...something other than Minitokyo.

/But I reserve the right to dance naked in warm rain if it's true.

physics223
2006-06-15, 21:08
At least it has raised our hopes for a third season. Can any German-speaking person confirm if 'erwachen' is a real word in that language?

Flo
2006-06-15, 21:11
At least it has raised our hopes for a third season. Can any German-speaking person confirm if 'erwachen' is a real word in that language?
Awake
Good enough?

RM-FAN
2006-06-15, 21:21
Erwachen is Awake?

mmmm......

physics223
2006-06-15, 21:24
That's a great prospectus for a title, which makes it seem more real. And it seems all loose ties to the story will be resolved; an awakening is a finality - it connotes a revelation, which is what we're all hoping for. Minitokyo may not be correct, but it sure raises hope for what will probably be the final season of Rozen Maiden.

blitz1/2
2006-06-15, 21:30
The awakening of Alice. I can't wait.

physics223
2006-06-15, 21:37
It won't necessarily be the awakening of Alice, but the end of Rozen Maiden as we know it. Judging from the past two seasons, I'd think this season will be the most painful, the most violent, and yet one that resounds with the most clarity. Or perhaps the dolls become human as their ultimate reward for being different kinds of Alices - Rozen has stated that there are other ways to become Alice. It would also fulfill the (dirty) wishes of Suiseiseki who wishes to get closer to Jun. I'd assume that if they were human, Sui would be among the most torrid and most sensual among them.

That's what doujins are hinting at, and I'm pretty sure it suits her personality - the others are for the most part goody-goodies (Hina and Kanaria), cold (Gin and Shinku), rational (Sou), and evil (Kirakishou).

Flo
2006-06-15, 21:50
Maybe throw in a plot where Kirasuishou is madly in love (ok, obssessed is a better word here) with Suigintou and see Megu as an obstacle and tries to kill Megu to make Gin her Gay Doll Lover. Of course Gin would stop her from killing Megu.

Kira would aim all of her arsenals at Megu while Gin take the damage to protect Megu while Kira be heartbroken for physically hurting the doll of her affection and retreats.

Thus the summary of this gay plot suggestion for season 3rd.

Flashback why Kira <3 Gin -> But Gin <3 Megu -> Kira haet Megu -> Kira want to kill Megu -> Gin stops Kira -> Kira retreats and starts planning her grand scheme to make Gin <3 Kira #X (where X = insert number here)

physics223
2006-06-15, 22:07
That's quite an absurd plot you have there, Flo. :)

RM-FAN
2006-06-15, 22:43
That's a great prospectus for a title, which makes it seem more real. And it seems all loose ties to the story will be resolved; an awakening is a finality - it connotes a revelation, which is what we're all hoping for. Minitokyo may not be correct, but it sure raises hope for what will probably be the final season of Rozen Maiden.

well, i wanna say this first: that answer give me a friend front Japan and he got much information of anime for the next months

and now i got a question: there is much possibilities that the Rozen Maidens finish becoming in human beings?

physics223
2006-06-15, 23:22
That's what would be the best for them, would it? They could return the affection of their 'hosts' when they'll be human; wouldn't they want that? Although if Sui becomes human I don't know what she'd do to Jun ... xD

abang brother
2006-06-15, 23:24
It is possible. No wai a doll can become a human beingS!

RM-FAN
2006-06-15, 23:42
that is like Pinocho, remember that RM has reference from Alice in Wonderland

abang brother
2006-06-15, 23:47
If like that, i think the Alice may become human then.

Mincemaker
2006-06-16, 01:46
Maybe throw in a plot where Kirasuishou is madly in love (ok, obssessed is a better word here) with Suigintou and see Megu as an obstacle and tries to kill Megu to make Gin her Gay Doll Lover. Of course Gin would stop her from killing Megu.

Kira would aim all of her arsenals at Megu while Gin take the damage to protect Megu while Kira be heartbroken for physically hurting the doll of her affection and retreats.

Thus the summary of this gay plot suggestion for season 3rd.

Flashback why Kira <3 Gin -> But Gin <3 Megu -> Kira haet Megu -> Kira want to kill Megu -> Gin stops Kira -> Kira retreats and starts planning her grand scheme to make Gin <3 Kira #X (where X = insert number here)
I was thinking:

Kira and Suigintou meets. Gin-sama makes Kirakishou undergo some sort of Italian Mafia ritual. Kirakishou completes ritual, kisses Gin-sama's rose ring and becomes the first member of Gin-sama's family.

Then they start doing illegal doll-related business, gain notoriety, gain more members and become the most feared Mafia in Japan, feared even by Yakuza!

And Megu remains oblivious of all the Godfather business happening behind her back.

J/k.

And regarding Suiseiseki, maybe she will be sensual, but her antics will scare Jun away.

Lost
2006-06-16, 04:20
/But I reserve the right to dance naked in warm rain if it's true.
Now.. where have I heard that before? :thinker:

And yes, please stop raising my hopes for a S3. Either something that can be verified, or nothing at all :) (Altho I think this is part of the pre-release rumors? Nooo~ my hopes have been raised) :heh:

It won't necessarily be the awakening of Alice, but the end of Rozen Maiden as we know it. Judging from the past two seasons, I'd think this season will be the most painful, the most violent, and yet one that resounds with the most clarity. Or perhaps the dolls become human as their ultimate reward for being different kinds of Alices - Rozen has stated that there are other ways to become Alice. It would also fulfill the (dirty) wishes of Suiseiseki who wishes to get closer to Jun. I'd assume that if they were human, Sui would be among the most torrid and most sensual among them.

That's what doujins are hinting at, and I'm pretty sure it suits her personality - the others are for the most part goody-goodies (Hina and Kanaria), cold (Gin and Shinku), rational (Sou), and evil (Kirakishou).
Muhahaha.. Dude don't get your hopes for S3 or how it'd be like up too much. I know most times I speak like S3 is a given, but we still have no solid evidence.

And NO! I dont't believe SuiseiSeki is dirty in the Anime, I cannot at all see how that fits her personality, and personally never thought her to be like that. Yes, she wants his affections and love, but shes a doll. Dolls don't do that; I have (thankfully) yet to see a sexual reference in RM. Doujins are doujins, and should remain Doujins. :)

I can never see Sui as being sensual in the anime. No. Never. I refuse to accept it. :nono: :o

Mincemaker
2006-06-16, 05:40
Now.. where have I heard that before? :thinker:

And yes, please stop raising my hopes for a S3. Either something that can be verified, or nothing at all :) (Altho I think this is part of the pre-release rumors? Nooo~ my hopes have been raised) :heh:


Muhahaha.. Dude don't get your hopes for S3 or how it'd be like up too much. I know most times I speak like S3 is a given, but we still have no solid evidence.

And NO! I dont't believe SuiseiSeki is dirty in the Anime, I cannot at all see how that fits her personality, and personally never thought her to be like that. Yes, she wants his affections and love, but shes a doll. Dolls don't do that; I have (thankfully) yet to see a sexual reference in RM. Doujins are doujins, and should remain Doujins. :)

I can never see Sui as being sensual in the anime. No. Never. I refuse to accept it. :nono: :o


She will scare Jun away if she behaves like that. Jun will definitely lock his bedroom doors when he goes to sleep, if Suiseiseki behaves like that as Alice.

Having an incestous sister is bad enough. Now a lusty doll-turned-human?

Though having Suiseiseki kicking Jun in the groin, and then explode into a storm of embarrassed 'Desu's is the most in-character and acceptable.

Though even if the dolls become Alice, I can still see Shinku sticking to Jun like superglue, and probably still ordering him to bring her tea.

physics223
2006-06-16, 06:03
I'm betting the third season, if it comes, is going to be among the most insightful and bittersweet of the three seasons. It can be interpolated from the direction the first two seasons were going towards: from somewhat a happy-go-lucky ending in the first season to a whole lot of emotional baggage the next.

NezoR
2006-06-16, 07:06
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8665/junk9wh.jpg

grey_moon
2006-06-16, 07:12
If like that, i think the Alice may become human then.

I have a problem with perfect = human (prbly stepping on some religious toes with that statement :p), unless of course Alice is the "perfect human" that we can all aspire to be like.

@physics223 - I like your theory on S3 and like everyone else I really want it to be coming out now, but I won't believe it untill I see an official link.

Also I would prefer if S3 took a little longer with the right director and a polished story line, then if they got some hack in to just finish it. Heh what would u do if u heard that Fukuda was directing it :p

@flo - WTF!!!!

Lost
2006-06-16, 08:20
Though having Suiseiseki kicking Jun in the groin, and then explode into a storm of embarrassed 'Desu's is the most in-character and acceptable.
Yes I agree with that. The point I was trying to make is that, contrary to what the doujins would have you believe, SuiseiSeki is really not lusty; at least, not in the shy, I-want-to-have-sex-with-Jun-but-don't-want-him-to-know way :heh:

I'm betting the third season, if it comes, is going to be among the most insightful and bittersweet of the three seasons. It can be interpolated from the direction the first two seasons were going towards: from somewhat a happy-go-lucky ending in the first season to a whole lot of emotional baggage the next.
I definitely hope it will be so, I want to see the silverlining of the cloud figuratively speaking. I think it will (or I want it to) be the climax (especially if they choose to stop with S3, effectively making it the RM Trilogy) but I am afraid that I'm just hoping for too much. Argh. The suspense.

Heh what would u do if u heard that Fukuda was directing it
:twitch: :uhoh: :uhoh: :frustrated: :upset: :upset:


NezoR: Beautiful Gin pic!! Thats definitely going into my favourites. Guys June isn't over yet! No more Junk?

Flo
2006-06-16, 10:39
Also I would prefer if S3 took a little longer with the right director and a polished story line, then if they got some hack in to just finish it. Heh what would u do if u heard that Fuckuda's wife was directing it :p
Fixed :p

JUNK JUNE BANZAI!
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/5089/11414981708241ur.jpg

Nightbat®
2006-06-16, 11:39
/But I reserve the right to dance naked in warm rain if it's true.


I'll provide the warm rain:D

Suiseiseki
2006-06-17, 02:25
I differ on whether a Rozen Maiden would become human once she has become Alice. It simply doesn't make sense that Rozen would build a bunch of dolls in hopes of creating a perfect human. A perfect doll makes more sense since the perfect doll would have no defects, unlike a human, no matter how perfect, would have the limitations of what makes a human a human. Plus what would be so special about any of the dolls that have become human? They would simply be one human among many.

What will a doll, now human, think about her body and its new needs? Can you imagine Shinku waking up after becoming Alice\human and finding out that she now has to watch what she eats, cause what goes in has to come out. (After she uses the bathroom for the first time, she'll probably slap Jun for even allowing her to once think of using the bathroom as her tearoom.) I think she would want to become a doll again once she sees Hinaichigo, the bottomless pit when it comes to all that is white, soft, and unyuu, doesn't have to think about the side affects of gorging on food. Then there is the aging process: Shinku will grow old and die, while the other dolls never age.

The dolls lack of knowledge about the needs of the human body is enormous. They would certainly experience fear like they have never felt before, when they learn how fragile the human body is to injuries and diseases.

Imagine Suigintou has become Alice\human and goes to Jun's house for some "loving"... http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9108/junksex8gw.png

If Suiseiseki had the hots for Jun, she'll probably be one of those shy girls you least expected to be a masochist or wild girl. Also, her "desu" would take on a different connotation.

"You will obey your desu overloard! ~desu!!" Suiseiseki yells as she whips a tied up and gagged Jun. "Fufufufufufu!!"

In celebration of Eye Patch Weekend, and to make up for last week's poor showing, comes 456 images of Barasuishou and Kirakishou (75.2MB worth). Download at http://rapidshare.de/files/23285640/Barasuishou_Kirakishou.zip.html

Have you danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

Mincemaker
2006-06-17, 03:14
I always thought that the dolls, in terms of looks, were perfect enough. What wasn't perfect would be their personality. So, Alice should look more or less similar to their former selves, just that the behavior would probably different.

Imagine a Shinku who is proud, sublime, faithful, loving (oh, wait. I think she developed that already), pure and talented in what she does. I think that is what Shinku will be when she becomes Alice, but of course, being sooooo used to seeing her proud, it will be hard to imagine her playing a violin well, and stammer when talking to Jun.

And I find the Suiseiseki behavior of being a desu overlord to be amusing.

Lost
2006-06-17, 05:18
Personally, the reasons why I like to entertain thoughts of the possibility of the dolls becoming Human are: (1) That would allow them to fully interact with society, meaning, the world outside Jun's (or their respective mediums) house (ahem, hospital room for one) and be able to experience all the feelings that I, as a human, experience with my relationships with other humans, (2) Somewhat related to the first point, as humans, they can be taken seriously and accepted by society in general, and (3) They can enjoy romantic relationships (I say romantic, not wholly sexual in nature; altho sex would be a proper part of such a romance), and with someone like SuiseiSeki (the doll, not the poster), well to say the least, seeing her express all her intricacies and eccentricities in a romantic (non-sexual, as yet) relationship would be deeply satisfying. :uhoh: :uhoh:

Now, having said that, I must say that I agree with SuiseiSeki's views (the poster, not the doll - dude, why in the world did you take her name? :p). The above views of my are all idealised and unrealistic, as in, they only make room for the happy! joyful! and nice aspects of life. As he posted, there is bound to be a negative side to being human, and even more so when they were "born" as dolls.

(Btw, for the record, I don't understand why the Anime portrays the dolls as so "stupid" when it comes to human stuff, I mean, they have been living longer than Jun, surely they must have observed stuff)

Also, if Rozen wanted a perfect human, he would just have created one in the first place. The fact that he didnt means that he doesn't have the power to, and thus, Alice the doll cannot become Alice the human.

Imagine Suigintou has become Alice\human and goes to Jun's house for some "loving"... http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9108/junksex8gw.png

That picture made me LOL. Poor Gin.

physics223
2006-06-17, 05:26
I'll be offering an alternative to Suiseiseki's opinion, then.

Bear in mind that I think the dolls (most of them) would bear becoming old and dying rather than living forever without Jun. Jun, in a way, has become extremely different into their other 'masters' because Jun gives them affection, love, and care, something that the other masters didn't do.

Dying with Jun or a few years before and after him would leave the dolls much more contented than living forever without Jun, anyway. They'd only have nightmares seeing Jun's death and being unable to do anything about it, which is why that although they'd have to watch their weight and what they do now that they're going to be human, being with Jun in his lifespan and probably dying with him would be a much better alternative.

What I'd like to see, if there were no Kirakishou, will be that as dolls becoming Alice and then human, I'd like to find the competition. I'm pretty sure that Sui and Shinku will be the ones fighting, with the other dolls mainly as supporting casts. I think we all agree on loving to see a real, mature, older and yet still cute Hinaichigo - oh, the stuff of wallpapers! :naughty:

Well, just some flights-of-fancy. But I think I've posited some valid points.

abang brother
2006-06-17, 09:10
Physics .. Can pm some or post some hinaichigo wallie?

RM-FAN
2006-06-17, 09:12
the answer we´ll got when the third season will be release

physics223
2006-06-17, 09:13
I think some wallpapers have been posted in which Hinaichigo is well-endowed and looking mature. Just search this thread. I myself have to find it still.

abang brother
2006-06-17, 09:22
I'll be offering an alternative to Suiseiseki's opinion, then.

Bear in mind that I think the dolls (most of them) would bear becoming old and dying rather than living forever without Jun. Jun, in a way, has become extremely different into their other 'masters' because Jun gives them affection, love, and care, something that the other masters didn't do.

Dying with Jun or a few years before and after him would leave the dolls much more contented than living forever without Jun, anyway. They'd only have nightmares seeing Jun's death and being unable to do anything about it, which is why that although they'd have to watch their weight and what they do now that they're going to be human, being with Jun in his lifespan and probably dying with him would be a much better alternative.

What I'd like to see, if there were no Kirakishou, will be that as dolls becoming Alice and then human, I'd like to find the competition. I'm pretty sure that Sui and Shinku will be the ones fighting, with the other dolls mainly as supporting casts. I think we all agree on loving to see a real, mature, older and yet still cute Hinaichigo - oh, the stuff of wallpapers! :naughty:

Well, just some flights-of-fancy. But I think I've posited some valid points.


Jun, is a good medium. Not like previous medium of Hinaichigo(AA!!) or Stinku. Jun also make them feel so happy and like him more then anything except their father!

Ah.. Maybe lots of your replies about the 3rd season isnt true. Might as well just wait the season 3. What's the name by the way?

blitz1/2
2006-06-17, 09:35
I'll be offering an alternative to Suiseiseki's opinion, then.

Bear in mind that I think the dolls (most of them) would bear becoming old and dying rather than living forever without Jun. Jun, in a way, has become extremely different into their other 'masters' because Jun gives them affection, love, and care, something that the other masters didn't do.

Dying with Jun or a few years before and after him would leave the dolls much more contented than living forever without Jun, anyway. They'd only have nightmares seeing Jun's death and being unable to do anything about it, which is why that although they'd have to watch their weight and what they do now that they're going to be human, being with Jun in his lifespan and probably dying with him would be a much better alternative.

What I'd like to see, if there were no Kirakishou, will be that as dolls becoming Alice and then human, I'd like to find the competition. I'm pretty sure that Sui and Shinku will be the ones fighting, with the other dolls mainly as supporting casts. I think we all agree on loving to see a real, mature, older and yet still cute Hinaichigo - oh, the stuff of wallpapers! :naughty:

Well, just some flights-of-fancy. But I think I've posited some valid points.

Hey, Kirakishou deserves to be human/Alice as well too!

Flo
2006-06-17, 10:07
Post some freaking EYEPATCH BITCHES! WELCOME TO EYEPATCH WEEKEND! :frustrated:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4610/kyo0714rk.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/606/11426889833443xt.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9316/i0342ja.jpg

Ps. @ Blitz: Dun juz leech, CONTRIBUTE! :frustrated: A repost is fine too!

solwyvern
2006-06-17, 10:39
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1079/0001506sw.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0001506sw.jpg)

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9281/0000165yw.jpg

Only because it's eyepatch

Lost
2006-06-17, 10:41
Jun, is a good medium. Not like previous medium of Hinaichigo(AA!!) or Stinku. Jun also make them feel so happy and like him more then anything except their father!

Ah.. Maybe lots of your replies about the 3rd season isnt true. Might as well just wait the season 3. What's the name by the way?
Heh, HinaIchigo's previous medium wasn't that bad. In fact she was very good to Hina, and (I think) has the hots for Jun. Its just that Hina took her forgranted and that led to Hina being defeated.

Well, sometimes its fun to speculate, even though yes, its highly probable we could be totally wrong. But thinking about "what I want to see in S3" does make me feel good :) But when, if, S3 comes, then we'll just have to take whatever it the directors think out.

Actually, physics makes a good point. Death and ending it as opposed to living on forever while your medium dies. I supposed we have to consider which outweights which; does the good outweigh the bad or is it the other way.

Thinking in this new light, and with regard to the question on Whether the dolls should become Human (not if they can), hmm.. While the bad (or rather realistic aspect of life as a human) as Sui posted is very real and serious, I would still go for saying that I want them to become Human. This is because, to me the good (relationships, growing old together, experiencing life) outweights the bad.

physics223
2006-06-17, 11:02
What Lost has said, are my sentiments exactly. What's the purpose of living forever if the one you love can never return? ... Damn, I make it obvious that I'm too much of a romantic.

abang brother
2006-06-17, 11:11
Lost, what i said about the previous medium of HI(hina) is not tomoe, its the one who lock her in her box!Physics so romantic hahah!

Lost
2006-06-17, 11:14
Lost, what i said about the previous medium of HI(hina) is not tomoe, its the one who lock her in her box!Physics so romantic hahah!
Ah, gomen :)

physics223
2006-06-17, 11:19
Right now, I just want to spoil you all with the masterpiece that's Tsukihime, but ... let's get stuck with my romanticism for now, shall we? Their world would be empty without Jun: isn't that the same as living a dead life?

blitz1/2
2006-06-17, 13:05
I got a few old ones. I hope you don't mind some reposts.

These are all Barasuishou. I'm still looking for Kirakishou pics.

http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11344646831788to.jpg

http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11400354054084tk.jpg\

http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rozen08346xf.jpg
(This one seemed a bit computer animated because of the darkness

RM-FAN
2006-06-17, 13:40
Hey, Kirakishou deserves to be human/Alice as well too!

jeje, i´m be with you, she deserves too

Blablabla
2006-06-17, 15:03
Someone may have posted it but for those who missed it here is the best barasuishou picture ever (and one of the best among Rozen Maiden fanarts)
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rozen10429iu.jpg

Streetor
2006-06-17, 19:05
I'm against it, anyone cruel and evil like bara and kira deserve to be junk'd!

imo...

Dark Steno
2006-06-17, 21:53
Right now, I just want to spoil you all with the masterpiece that's Tsukihime, but ... let's get stuck with my romanticism for now, shall we? Their world would be empty without Jun: isn't that the same as living a dead life?
How about they live together for... 50 years let say. Jun at that time is old and bald like Ojisan and then he dies. What's the difference? Even if they wait for another century, no one will be able to be the same as Jun right?

physics223
2006-06-17, 22:04
That's the point - no one can replace Jun. I think the dolls know that humans get old, so it would be better for them to die along with Jun, or at least die ... what would be the value of living if Jun's not there? Take note that Jun's the only master that really cared for them, and probably in the next hundred years no one can take his place. Tomoe will have also died by then. X|

Suiseiseki
2006-06-18, 00:39
(3) They can enjoy romantic relationship

A human Suiseiseki with a libido...http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8043/droolingemotebypopolop0cg.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Their world would be empty without Jun: isn't that the same as living a dead life?

If Rozen is able to live in the N-field (he must be over a hundred years old by now), why couldn't Jun do the same? In the N-field Jun could remain forever young, remain Shinku's faithful servant, be Suiseiseki's punching bag, ect. Also, Jun could marry Tomoe and then enter the N-field with the dolls.

I'm against it, anyone cruel and evil like bara and kira deserve to be junk'd!

imo...

Barasuishou should be able to live. Even though I did not like her until the very last episode when it's revealed that she was only fighting the Rozen Maiden to make her father happy (sounds quite similar to Suigintou's reasons), she's probably a very caring girl who simply wants the people she loves to be happy. Dump Enju and Kirakishou in a blender and turn them into a delicious Rokeg blood pie.

Could you tell this http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6041/0000912mi.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0000912mi.jpg) cute, naïve, innocent http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/102/angelbyparrotsnake6ps.png (http://imageshack.us) girl that she deserves death to her face? I don't think so.

Blablabla
2006-06-18, 01:29
I completly agree about Bara.
Just look her inocent smile when Enju praised her after she won against Shinku.... she is not evil. She just put all herself in Alice game for her father's happiness.

Lost
2006-06-18, 04:39
I completly agree about Bara.
Just look her inocent smile when Enju praised her after she won against Shinku.... she is not evil. She just put all herself in Alice game for her father's happiness.
Barasuishou should be able to live. Even though I did not like her until the very last episode when it's revealed that she was only fighting the Rozen Maiden to make her father happy (sounds quite similar to Suigintou's reasons), she's probably a very caring girl who simply wants the people she loves to be happy.
Well, yeah, but no. While she isn't really evil, the problem is it probably didnt strike her that what she did was wrong; i.e. immoral. To her, becoming Alice at any cost = Right. Meaning that because her own existence is wholly for the purpose of becoming Alice, she doesn't have any other morals. So I don't think she is capable of loving any else but her father, Enju. In the end, its not her fault, but sadly, I don't see how she can be changed.

If Rozen is able to live in the N-field (he must be over a hundred years old by now), why couldn't Jun do the same? In the N-field Jun could remain forever young, remain Shinku's faithful servant, be Suiseiseki's punching bag, ect. Also, Jun could marry Tomoe and then enter the N-field with the dolls.
Valid point, but how would that be nice? Condemned to live forever in an N-field, devoid of social life.. Then again... considering Jun's background, he may not at all mind that..

blitz1/2
2006-06-18, 09:46
I'm against it, anyone cruel and evil like bara and kira deserve to be junk'd!

imo...

So that means you also support that Gin should be junked as well.


I agree with Barasuishou not being evil. It is Enju who is evil. We all know that Barasuishou fought dirty and was immoral but she doesn't have a conscience. So how could you expect her to fight fair when she can't tell which things are right/wrong.

This leads me to believe if Kirakishou may be doing the same for Rozen's love.

Flo
2006-06-18, 10:03
Stinku should be the one that should be Junk'd

In another news.
No eyepatch on Kirakishou for Eyepatch Weekend? BLASPHEMY!
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/595/11504664346903fo.jpg

Lost
2006-06-18, 11:19
ZOMG... CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTEE!! Flo!! Its blasphemy to post such cute pics. I fell out of my chair.

blitz1/2
2006-06-18, 13:38
Wow! Kira is a kunkun fan as well.


Wait a moment, is that Kira or Bara or a combination of both (because it has a mixture of both crystal and rose hairclips)

Alu
2006-06-18, 16:02
Uff.. I'm back.. :p

Finaly I was able to re-installing mostely everything, and so far my net is up&running as good as before :)
I guess I'll still need to atend to a couple of things before everything is 100% Flawless.., but meantime..

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4836/rozenmaiden101bf.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rozenmaiden101bf.jpg) http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/894/rozenmaiden037xx.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rozenmaiden037xx.jpg)

Two scans I had uploaded.., they where too big so I was forced to rezise them a bit.
Still, anyway.. both feature Gin so.., in the good spirit of Junk June... :D

See you all in again in 1 day or 2 :)

RM-FAN
2006-06-18, 17:35
there is some scans

this is for you Blitz 1/2
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4617/2127325ki.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2127325ki.jpg)

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4359/me000065413227pw.th.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=me000065413227pw.jpg)http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/7545/canary0ql.th.jpg (http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=canary0ql.jpg)http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1777/rm131mu.th.jpg (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rm131mu.jpg)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/384/2211168ob.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2211168ob.jpg)http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4754/11443109382144kv.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11443109382144kv.jpg)http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8539/suigintou39qp.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suigintou39qp.jpg)

and here, a cosplays pics of Suiseiseki

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6181/11461580888039yp.jpghttp://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4079/11462849147135lp.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4150/suiseisekicosplay4ti.jpg

blitz1/2
2006-06-18, 19:32
[QUOTE=RM-FAN]there is some scans

this is for you Blitz 1/2
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4617/2127325ki.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2127325ki.jpg)

Nice pic! I got a better one for me though.

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11378090397760kb.jpg

RM-FAN
2006-06-18, 19:35
Nice pic! I got a better one for me though.

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11378090397760kb.jpg

COOL, oh geez, i can wait for the third season

BTW, ¿do you got the wall that i show you?

blitz1/2
2006-06-18, 19:54
COOL, oh geez, i can wait for the third season

BTW, ¿do you got the wall that i show you?

Which wall? Do you mean the Gin and Kira holding hands pic?

abang brother
2006-06-19, 02:40
COOL, oh geez, i can wait for the third season

BTW, ¿do you got the wall that i show you?


Give it to me to!~

Suiseiseki
2006-06-19, 04:41
Well, yeah, but no. While she isn't really evil, the problem is it probably didnt strike her that what she did was wrong; i.e. immoral. To her, becoming Alice at any cost = Right. Meaning that because her own existence is wholly for the purpose of becoming Alice, she doesn't have any other morals. So I don't think she is capable of loving any else but her father, Enju. In the end, its not her fault, but sadly, I don't see how she can be changed.

Could it be that Bara's understanding of what is right or wrong be compared to what a very young child knows about morality? A young kid who has very little experience in life can't be expected to understand the ins and outs of morality, so how could one expect a doll who's been alive for less than a year understand right vs wrong? If you were raised in a society that celebrated people strapping bombs to there bodies or packing a car full of explosives and detonating the bombs in the middle of a crowd of civilians, you would believe such actions are moral.

But then Bara may have understood what she was doing was wrong and didn't care.


Valid point, but how would that be nice? Condemned to live forever in an N-field, devoid of social life.. Then again... considering Jun's background, he may not at all mind that..

For the majority of people that would be true: they would go nuts living in the N-field. Since I'm quite similar to Jun, in that I stay in my room all day and rarely go outside (nothing makes me panic more than thinking about interacting with strangers), I wouldn't mind living in the N-field with the Rozen Maiden, since the only people I would be interacting with are the dolls, and I wouldn't have to worry about meeting strangers.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8620/bara0us.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bara0us.jpg)

It's the greatest car ever: the Honda Civic Junk!

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5884/suicar0fv.th.png (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suicar0fv.png)

RM-FAN
2006-06-19, 06:34
Give it to me to!~

¿you cant see this? is complety upload

BTW, that comentary of Suiseiseki is true: BARA EXIST ONLY IN THE N-FIELD, LIKE KIRAKISHOU

blitz1/2
2006-06-19, 06:51
¿you cant see this? is complety upload

BTW, that comentary of Suiseiseki is true: BARA EXIST ONLY IN THE N-FIELD, LIKE KIRAKISHOU

Bara could take a physical form in the real world though. Only Kirakishou exists only in N-field. I think.

Lost
2006-06-19, 06:51
Could it be that Bara's understanding of what is right or wrong be compared to what a very young child knows about morality? A young kid who has very little experience in life can't be expected to understand the ins and outs of morality, so how could one expect a doll who's been alive for less than a year understand right vs wrong? If you were raised in a society that celebrated people strapping bombs to there bodies or packing a car full of explosives and detonating the bombs in the middle of a crowd of civilians, you would believe such actions are moral.

But then Bara may have understood what she was doing was wrong and didn't care.
Well I like the first analogy to her as a kid better. If I remember correctly, she wasn't living for very long before Shinku met her right? And with her lack of emotions, she did seem like a kid who had no chance to grow up.

grey_moon
2006-06-19, 07:31
Well I like the first analogy to her as a kid better. If I remember correctly, she wasn't living for very long before Shinku met her right? And with her lack of emotions, she did seem like a kid who had no chance to grow up.

Also she was influenced by the bastard bunny <- I am a fan of nurture over nature :p

Whats this about Bara existing in the n-field only? Hmm i need to go thro it and check every scene that she was in (a excuse to watch RM again, not that i ever need one). One scene that spings to mind is when she appears in the shop for the first time.

Flo
2006-06-19, 07:44
Enju should cr8 an army of Baras to take over the world.

10 billion Baras vs 7 Rozen Maidens

grey_moon
2006-06-19, 09:24
Enju should cr8 an army of Baras to take over the world.

10 billion Baras vs 7 Rozen Maidens

The horror if they all started repeating each other!!!!

Dark Steno
2006-06-19, 09:50
Enju should cr8 an army of Baras to take over the world.

10 billion Baras vs 7 Rozen Maidens
Then the 7 Rozen Maidens won the battle! Every doll fights each other again...

physics223
2006-06-19, 10:24
I just wish the third season were here. Then I wouldn't have to worry.

grey_moon
2006-06-19, 10:49
I just wish the third season were here. Then I wouldn't have to worry.

Wouldn't you rather spend that wish on having an actual Rozen Maiden instead?

Lost
2006-06-19, 10:57
Wouldn't you rather spend that wish on having an actual Rozen Maiden instead?
In Hina voice: SUI-SEI-SE-KIII. For Lost.

blitz1/2
2006-06-19, 11:51
In Hina voice: SUI-SEI-SE-KIII. For Lost.

In Bara voice: I want Barasuishou and Kirakishou.

2 dolls for me please.

RM-FAN
2006-06-19, 18:09
In Bara voice: I want Barasuishou and Kirakishou.

2 dolls for me please.


jeje, if you want Barasuishou and Kirakishou, please leave me Suigintou :heh: :heh: :heh:

Streetor
2006-06-19, 18:52
I can't believe how popular this topic still is so long after the series ended.

Even nanoha didn't have legs like this one after the 1st nanoha series.

RM-FAN
2006-06-19, 21:03
I can't believe how popular this topic still is so long after the series ended.

Even nanoha didn't have legs like this one after the 1st nanoha series.

i got an idea:

what you think if the administrator of this forum make an Official disscusion post of ROZEN MAIDEN like the series of Bleach, Naruto and One Piece?

Flo
2006-06-19, 21:32
i got an idea:

what you think if the administrator of this forum make an Official disscusion post of ROZEN MAIDEN like the series of Bleach, Naruto and One Piece?

Tried that for like what? 5 times. All rejected.

Catgirls
2006-06-19, 21:43
Tried that for like what? 5 times. All rejected.I know they wanted to create a Rozen Maiden forum, but Season 2 ended as popularity began to surge. With the forum hack, it all happened a bit too late. Sorry about that guys. :( I was going to suggest to them that we make a separate Rozen Maiden sub-forum and go through the normal process of creating a new Episode thread each week even though the show is already over.

I thought, though this does sound a bit childish, it would be fun to chat about each episode as if it were just coming out, or at the very least, chat about each episode as a stand alone piece of work. We could start with season #1, Episode 1 and go from there all the way through the final episode of Season 2. I know it's too much pretending, but it was a thought I had...not sure it would fly, but...

I'm sure they'll consider a separate Rozen forum if there's a Season 3, though I don’t really speak for the Admins. :)

Flo
2006-06-19, 21:59
I know they wanted to create a Rozen Maiden forum, but Season 2 ended as popularity began to surge. With the forum hack, it all happened a bit too late. Sorry about that guys. :( I was going to suggest to them that we make a separate Rozen Maiden sub-forum and go through the normal process of creating a new Episode thread each week even though the show is already over.

I thought, though this does sound a bit childish, it would be fun to chat about each episode as if it were just coming out, or at the very least, chat about each episode as a stand alone piece of work. We could start with season #1, Episode 1 and go from there all the way through the final episode of Season 2. I know it's too much pretending, but it was a thought I had...not sure it would fly, but...

I'm sure they'll consider a separate Rozen forum if there's a Season 3, though I don’t really speak for the Admins. :)
Understandable :) , but as of right now this thread is fine as it is until Season 3 that is.

Mincemaker
2006-06-19, 22:05
The lack of Gin-sama pics makes the Cult of the Lampe sad.

Anyway, regarding the Ali Project songs, the songs belong to what genre?

I had no idea what genre to place Kinjirareta Asobi and Seishoujo Ryouiki.

Streetor
2006-06-19, 22:20
i got an idea:

what you think if the administrator of this forum make an Official disscusion post of ROZEN MAIDEN like the series of Bleach, Naruto and One Piece?


It'll probably get it's own topic if/when a 3rd season is made.

There is no reason to make one now that the series has ended.

Flo
2006-06-19, 22:20
The lack of Gin-sama pics makes the Cult of the Lampe sad.

Anyway, regarding the Ali Project songs, the songs belong to what genre?

I had no idea what genre to place Kinjirareta Asobi and Seishoujo Ryouiki.
J-Goth :p

Not that I dun wanna post, my source is running dry. :p I see what i can savage up. JUNK JUNE GO!

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2946/11505599530521tv.jpg
Prove me wrong if this is not work safe!
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6808/11505628086094ec.jpg

Wandy
2006-06-19, 22:31
long live Rozen Maiden :p
<3 Sugintou and Shinku


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abang brother
2006-06-20, 00:58
I know they wanted to create a Rozen Maiden forum, but Season 2 ended as popularity began to surge. With the forum hack, it all happened a bit too late. Sorry about that guys. :( I was going to suggest to them that we make a separate Rozen Maiden sub-forum and go through the normal process of creating a new Episode thread each week even though the show is already over.

I thought, though this does sound a bit childish, it would be fun to chat about each episode as if it were just coming out, or at the very least, chat about each episode as a stand alone piece of work. We could start with season #1, Episode 1 and go from there all the way through the final episode of Season 2. I know it's too much pretending, but it was a thought I had...not sure it would fly, but...

I'm sure they'll consider a separate Rozen forum if there's a Season 3, though I don’t really speak for the Admins. :)
understoof .. when season 3 started make it k ..

Suiseiseki
2006-06-20, 02:26
Also she was influenced by the bastard bunny

I completely forgot about that bastard bunny. I hope Kira turns on him when she learns that he's been manipulating her. The Rozen Maiden can have a nice, yummy rabbit stew together and live happily ever after.

In Bara voice: I want Barasuishou and Kirakishou.

2 dolls for me please.


What would happen if Kira kills Bara? You'll be stuck with a doll that will probably be waiting to kill you in your sleep.:eek:

All I want for Christmas is a Suiseiseki ~desu.:D

blitz1/2
2006-06-20, 06:55
What would happen if Kira kills Bara? You'll be stuck with a doll that will probably be waiting to kill you in your sleep.:eek:

All I want for Christmas is a Suiseiseki ~desu.:D

I doubt it. Even if Bara makes a reentry in season 3, I don't think 2 dolls would kill each other if I was the medium. What kind of stupid doll would kill her own power source?

You don't see Shinku or Suiseiseki trying to kill each other for Jun so why Kira?

grey_moon
2006-06-20, 07:17
I thought, though this does sound a bit childish, it would be fun to chat about each episode as if it were just coming out, or at the very least, chat about each episode as a stand alone piece of work. We could start with season #1, Episode 1 and go from there all the way through the final episode of Season 2. I know it's too much pretending, but it was a thought I had...not sure it would fly, but...



I think this is a great idea! We have been discussing RM a lot from many angles and at times different sources. I would be great to get a thread going on like the way u described. I mean we all have realised how much is packed into each episode, so a break down like I think would be fun and useful.

I doubt it. Even if Bara makes a reentry in season 3, I don't think 2 dolls would kill each other if I was the medium. What kind of stupid doll would kill her own power source?

You don't see Shinku or Suiseiseki trying to kill each other for Jun so why Kira?

But I can imagine Bara realising the fragility of her medium would seal them in a crystal in a state of near hybernation to ensure nothing happens to her PSU. Imagine if she is able to tap into more then one medium, her n-field would be a scene out of the matrix!

I dont know which doll I would like the most for a wish.... I am suffering from Micchan disease :p But if I had to choose if would be S2 Hina :)

Zenemis
2006-06-20, 10:09
Agent Bara: Surprised to see me?

Radiosity
2006-06-20, 10:45
You don't see Shinku or Suiseiseki trying to kill each other for Jun so why Kira?

Because Kira is a raving psychopath who can't differentiate between things like Right and Wrong, or Dead & Alive ? ;)

blitz1/2
2006-06-20, 11:14
Because Kira is a raving psychopath who can't differentiate between things like Right and Wrong, or Dead & Alive ? ;)

I don't think so. Kira actually has a conscience because she's a living doll. I don't think she is a psycopath though.

grey_moon
2006-06-20, 11:29
I don't think so. Kira actually has a conscience because she's a living doll. I don't think she is a psycopath though.

I still need to find out more about Kira, all I know about her is from gossip and clips of manga in Japanese....

Suiseiseki
2006-06-21, 01:56
I don't think so. Kira actually has a conscience because she's a living doll. I don't think she is a psycopath though.

From what I know about Kira she enjoyed killing Hinachigo. Plus she didn't even take Hina's Rosa Mystica (Shinku came later and took it after Kira left). To me that means Kira has no conscience and is like Jeffrey Dahmer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_dahmer). I wouldn't let that doll get anywhere near me unless I had M82A1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M82A1) at the ready.

Lost
2006-06-21, 02:04
I know they wanted to create a Rozen Maiden forum, but Season 2 ended as popularity began to surge. With the forum hack, it all happened a bit too late. Sorry about that guys. :( I was going to suggest to them that we make a separate Rozen Maiden sub-forum and go through the normal process of creating a new Episode thread each week even though the show is already over.

I thought, though this does sound a bit childish, it would be fun to chat about each episode as if it were just coming out, or at the very least, chat about each episode as a stand alone piece of work. We could start with season #1, Episode 1 and go from there all the way through the final episode of Season 2. I know it's too much pretending, but it was a thought I had...not sure it would fly, but...

I'm sure they'll consider a separate Rozen forum if there's a Season 3, though I don’t really speak for the Admins. :)
Ah, thanks for trying. That would be a nice idea, it'll give us all an excuse to watch the episodes all over again. But its rather pointless too I guess, as all this discussion must have already happened while the show was airing. Personally, I'm satisfied with this thread as it is.

physics223
2006-06-21, 04:07
I'd rather one thread for the whole of Season III. Honestly.

solwyvern
2006-06-21, 04:39
I'd rather one thread for the whole of Season III. Honestly.

...and maybe a thread for pics.

NezoR
2006-06-21, 04:39
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3374/suigintou0df.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2963/ddsa1xm.jpg

grey_moon
2006-06-21, 05:49
Nice doll but her eyes slant the wrong way making her face too too soft.

One benefit with having a single thread is that we can look forward to each time we hit a K :)

blitz1/2
2006-06-21, 06:49
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2963/ddsa1xm.jpg

Happy Kira with annoyed Gin?

Blablabla
2006-06-21, 07:56
Oh yeah !!! It seems that Gin is about to be onwed once again... Go Kira, go !! Kick her ass !!

Mincemaker
2006-06-21, 08:44
Looks like there will be bad blood between Kira and Gin-sama. Care to bet that Gin-sama's going to slap Kira?

Anyway, Gin-sama is soooo beautiful when annoyed.

Flo
2006-06-21, 11:09
Loli Vampire Junk is pure sex. Must...restraint....from......raping....Gin-chan..... >_>;;
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8606/11508883385173yg.jpg

blitz1/2
2006-06-21, 12:33
Loli Vampire Junk is pure sex. Must...restraint....from......raping....Gin-chan..... >_>;;
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8606/11508883385173yg.jpg

I saw that. She has a weird pose. Anyone care to translate.

Oh ya, I can't wait until Kira owns Gin.

Radiosity
2006-06-21, 13:30
What I want to see:

Shinku x Gin Tag Team smackdown of Kira :D

gin-san
2006-06-21, 14:16
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3374/suigintou0df.jpg

Nice doll, but that doesn't seem to show Suigintou's nasty and evil side...

And now that we're showing doll pics... Do you perhaps have a similar image of Suiseiseki? I just love that always-annoyed attitude of hers! :heh:

Dark Steno
2006-06-21, 16:58
Loli Vampire Junk is pure sex. Must...restraint....from......raping....Gin-chan..... >_>;;
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8606/11508883385173yg.jpg
FUO FYUU FUAN HIIHO FUI FUA HOO (Go jyu man hitto arigatou)

- 500,000 hits, thank you. :heh:

Mincemaker
2006-06-21, 22:33
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/marcuscml/suigintou12.jpg

RM-FAN
2006-06-21, 23:10
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2963/ddsa1xm.jpg

fiu, what a cute image of Kira and Sui, i love it ^^

Mincemaker
2006-06-21, 23:46
fiu, what a cute image of Kira and Sui, i love it ^^

Sui = Suiseiseki
Gin-sama = Suigintou

grey_moon
2006-06-22, 05:49
fiu, what a cute image of Kira and Sui, i love it ^^

I'm going to try printing it on transparency as I think the colour scheme will make it look really good stuck on a window. (Point about Gin's name already covered by Mincemaker :) )

physics223
2006-06-22, 07:38
I can't believe I was accused by somebody of SPAMMING and gave me negative rep for that. That's something I'm pretty surprised with ...

Anyway, going back on topic, wait ... what's the topic? All I see for the past page are pictures (cute ones) of Rozen Maidens, but anyway, to answer Lost's question, I'd rather have Rozen Maiden III have a single thread for reasons stated below.

First, having a single thread for all the episodes of the third season in the Fansubs forum is more visible than placing them in the 'Current Series Discussion' thread. I mean it - guys are more likely to check the fansubs forum than any other place in this group of forums, so I'd rather it stay here in the fansubs forum.

Next, having everything about the third season intact inside a thread will just prove to many how popular the series is to us, and why we keep on posting. We have subliminally influenced a lot of people by showing them the thread with the most posts in the fansubs forum: Rozen Maiden: Traumend. I'd like what RMT did to be what RMIII will do.

Third, it's much more easier for discourse. Having multiple points of discussion within a single thread promotes entropy, perhaps, but it also promotes a better meshing of ideas. Those are my reasons.

Oh, and if you could spare some +rep for a poor guy, just give me some if you liked my posts anywhere in the forum.

TamaNeko
2006-06-22, 08:32
Unyuunymous (http://www.rozen-unyu.net/) has some new RM fanstrips translated. I especially love this one.

http://www.rozen-unyu.net/images2/4koma_megugin6-TRANSL.jpg

"...I wuv you." :eyespin:

*dies from cuteness overload*

Flo
2006-06-22, 11:02
Look what I stumbled upon when visit Kinokuniya Bookstore today.:D (Using crappy cam phone so stop complaining)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6027/image1455ur.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5096/image1464dw.jpg

-and-

Coin Operated RM:T figurines (Too bad I'm broke :heh: )
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/6876/image1398qq.jpg

physics223
2006-06-22, 13:30
Third season, here we come! Erinnerung? Memory, eh? :D

It seems we're getting closer ...

Li Jianliang
2006-06-22, 13:38
Erinnerung is just the name of the Visual Book about Season 1 & 2, not a third season.

physics223
2006-06-22, 13:39
I have just confirmed my ignorance about these things. Darn. :(

Lost
2006-06-22, 14:27
I'm going to try printing it on transparency as I think the colour scheme will make it look really good stuck on a window. (Point about Gin's name already covered by Mincemaker :) )
Woah you sure you want to do that? Imagine waking up in the middle of the night and seeing Gin and Bara staring down at you in the moonlight *shivers* :p

I can't believe I was accused by somebody of SPAMMING and gave me negative rep for that. That's something I'm pretty surprised with ...

Anyway, going back on topic, wait ... what's the topic? All I see for the past page are pictures (cute ones) of Rozen Maidens, but anyway, to answer Lost's question, I'd rather have Rozen Maiden III have a single thread for reasons stated below.

First, having a single thread for all the episodes of the third season in the Fansubs forum is more visible than placing them in the 'Current Series Discussion' thread. I mean it - guys are more likely to check the fansubs forum than any other place in this group of forums, so I'd rather it stay here in the fansubs forum.

Next, having everything about the third season intact inside a thread will just prove to many how popular the series is to us, and why we keep on posting. We have subliminally influenced a lot of people by showing them the thread with the most posts in the fansubs forum: Rozen Maiden: Traumend. I'd like what RMT did to be what RMIII will do.

Third, it's much more easier for discourse. Having multiple points of discussion within a single thread promotes entropy, perhaps, but it also promotes a better meshing of ideas. Those are my reasons.

Oh, and if you could spare some +rep for a poor guy, just give me some if you liked my posts anywhere in the forum.
Hmmm... I'm having a very tough time deciding whether to support a single thread or a whole subforum. K lets analyse. Please join in with your thoughts, guys. (I'm typing out stuff as I think of them, and I tend to think in circles, so it may be hard to follow, and I apologise in advance. :heh:)

First two points you pointed out are true, especially the first, I agree with. The second point too; sometimes I feel that a sub-forum would be too "big," i.e. turn out and discussion wouldn't be as hot as this thread previously was, e.g. look at UtaMono forums now.

Now: for the bad. Thing about just having a thread that is a no-no for me would be that "entropy", as you have stated. Can you imagine how hard it'll be to follow all the different discussion paths, happening in the same thread? :uhoh: I'm sure we can have meshed discussions in the individual threads made for each episode (if we get a sub-forum). However, thing about episodic threads is that some days after the episode stops, real discussion is likely to stop too...

To solve this, why not have a General RM thread within the subforum, in addition to the episodic threads? Then any burning debate can be taken there. Wait. Two discussion threads. That'll be even harder to follow.

Then again, in a subforum, (even if its restricted), we can move huge debates, discussions to a thread of its own, thus making it somewhat easier to concentrate on, rather than all the discussions being concurrently concatenated (phy, did I use the word properly? :)) in one thread.

Argh. I still can't decide. (as it is however, I currently am favoring a single thread a little more than a sub-forum)

@TamaNeko: ZOMG.. "I wuv you" *huggles!!!*

@Flo: Flo, did you manage to get a price for that book?

Flo
2006-06-22, 14:33
@Flo: Flo, did you manage to get a price for that book?
It cost SG$65. Kinokuniya Takashimaya Branch

Radiosity
2006-06-22, 14:35
Generally I'd prefer the single subs forum thread as it was before. I tend to skim over the specific forums without really reading much. Just too much to keep up with I guess, I prefer being able to read through one thread, reply if I feel like it and move on to the next thread/ series.

solwyvern
2006-06-22, 16:57
SCANS from that book PLEASE! SG$65 is a mere price to pay!

Lost: The vector is looking awesome! looking forward

physics223
2006-06-22, 18:10
@Lost
That's what most subforums have - and it's not a pretty sight.

@Radiosity
Thank you very much.

RM-FAN
2006-06-22, 18:52
Buuuaaa, I Wanna That Book!!!!!!!!!
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

blitz1/2
2006-06-22, 18:57
I want it too! Anything that has Kira or Bara, I want it!

RM-FAN
2006-06-22, 19:08
I want it too! Anything that has Kira or Bara, I want it!

i dont know why Kirakishou still be ignorate for the studio, pitty

blitz1/2
2006-06-22, 19:11
I know that. Why do they always exclude Kirakishou all the time?

RM-FAN
2006-06-22, 19:23
I know that. Why do they always exclude Kirakishou all the time?

Mmmm, MAYBE....

they reservate Kira for the GREAT MOMENT of the story, :cool: dont you?

Mincemaker
2006-06-22, 19:39
It cost SG$65. Kinokuniya Takashimaya Branch

I hope the stock is not limited. I am soooooo going to buy that next month when I get my pocket money!

Razer Krait, eXactmat and the Saitek Combat Pro can wait!

blitz1/2
2006-06-22, 20:03
Mmmm, MAYBE....

they reservate Kira for the GREAT MOMENT of the story, :cool: dont you?
You got a point there!

Flo
2006-06-23, 00:23
SCANS from that book PLEASE! SG$65 is a mere price to pay!
If I have 65 Sing Bucks I wouldn't be taking cover shots with my handphone camera. :p

I hope the stock is not limited. I am soooooo going to buy that next month when I get my pocket money!

Razer Krait, eXactmat and the Saitek Combat Pro can wait!
When I saw it there was like 5-6 books on the shelves, but sure about stock but I believe they have rather limited at the storeroom. I doubt any normal people will buy anime CG books, but if the people are fans that may be a different story.

Dark Steno
2006-06-23, 03:36
It cost SG$65. Kinokuniya Takashimaya Branch
Ho, hope that it will available at here too at Kinokunya.

Lost
2006-06-23, 07:22
Wow... 65 bucks eh.. I wouldn't mind buying it, but I'm saving for a Maxtor OneTouch :( *looks hopefully at Mincemaker* Share? :p

abang brother
2006-06-23, 07:31
Season 3 is gonna be sooo fun !

Potatochobit
2006-06-23, 07:46
LOL thats vanessa mae in your sig i just realized that. since when did she become a photo star.

Lost
2006-06-23, 08:14
Junk June isn't over! And since Megu is technically Junk too:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4268/top182transl3gw.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=top182transl3gw.jpg)
(source (http://www.rozen-unyu.net/pervjun-p3.html) - the last three are just sick, but LOL :heh:) This one made me LOL, especially since I loved the song so much.

PAGE 200 GET!!! :heh: :heh:

Flo
2006-06-23, 10:56
Alice Cup
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1658/11510451488154jz.jpg

RM-FAN
2006-06-23, 16:53
Alice Cup
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1658/11510451488154jz.jpg

COOL, THAT IS A GREATS SELECTIONS

mmm, Hinaichigo can be Korea, because the uniform of Korea are pink

Kirakishou can be United States, the uniform of them is white

blitz1/2
2006-06-23, 17:07
Any country with a purple uniform? We need it for Barasuishou too.

Suiseiseki
2006-06-24, 01:37
Any country with a purple uniform? We need it for Barasuishou too.
Barasuishou can be Anartica because it matches her personality: cold and uncaring.:rolleyes:

NezoR
2006-06-24, 01:41
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9568/junk8bx.jpg

Dark Steno
2006-06-24, 01:59
LOL thats vanessa mae in your sig i just realized that. since when did she become a photo star.
He is currently having a violin class. Somehow, it makes him to like Vanessa Mae very much.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9813/top181transl0bj.jpg

lol desu~

Flo
2006-06-24, 02:43
MAI NEU WALLPAPPA! BLESS THE SUIGINTOU AMD JUNK JUNE!
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6094/danboorup1151052967761775jh.jpg

Blablabla
2006-06-24, 02:53
:eek: wonderful

physics223
2006-06-24, 03:08
OMGWTFBBQZORZ. That's a great-looking Suigintou.

Flo
2006-06-24, 03:14
Am forfieting myself from the 4000GET race. Good luck all. :)
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6725/rm25wr.jpg

Suiseiseki
2006-06-24, 03:50
Found a new Rozen Maiden comic at http://haru.usn.bz/gallery/rm3-a.html. I don't understand what's being said, but it appears that Jun is sick and Suiseiseki is worried about him. Plus Shinku slaps Juns, and the art is quite good, too.

Junk panties. As Homer Simpson would say "drool............."

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6701/0016166sl.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0016166sl.jpg)

Since it's nearly 2am where I'm at, I probably won't get 4000.

Suiseiseki
2006-06-24, 03:52
Bloody dupes.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2655/0013733oo.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0013733oo.jpg)

Shadow Miko
2006-06-24, 05:27
Alice Cup
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1658/11510451488154jz.jpg
Awesome.:D

Zenemis
2006-06-24, 08:01
MAI NEU WALLPAPPA! BLESS THE SUIGINTOU AMD JUNK JUNE!
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6094/danboorup1151052967761775jh.jpg

Superb :cool:

Lost
2006-06-24, 09:34
What? No race this time? Thats pathetic!!! :p Is this thread really dying? Btw, nice picture of Gin there.. awesome. She just looks a little anaemic. :heh:

A few more days to the end of Junk June, shall we start choosing our favourite picture of the month. As for me, I have mine, will wait for the last day to post it. On to 4000!!

Lost
2006-06-24, 10:47
Erm... anybody? :( Argh, I'll just go to bed. Flo will probably come along and get 4K :p :) Anyway, let me try starting a new topic of discussion. I was saving this up. Well I was in bed some days ago, having just woken up, and drifting in between a state of dazed semi-consciousness and unconsciousness when it hit me.

No one in this thread (from the time I've joined) has yet posted anything bad on RM. I mean, all of us seem to love this show so much. Yet, there must have been somethings/somepart of both seasons that you may not have liked. Care to share what they are?

For me, the part I did not like about the starting of S2 was the way they resurrected SuiginTou out the blue. I mean, it was nice seeing her back, but it seemed like so much of a mere plot device for the continuation of the story. I would at least have expected a reasonable explanation of who brought her back, and if so, why?

Well, thats mine bone to pick. Any RM haters? Feel free to post!!

Ichy
2006-06-24, 10:52
Alice Cup
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1658/11510451488154jz.jpg

*recrutes Kira for Team Austria* :P

Mincemaker
2006-06-24, 11:08
Erm... anybody? :( Argh, I'll just go to bed. Flo will probably come along and get 4K :p :) Anyway, let me try starting a new topic of discussion. I was saving this up. Well I was in bed some days ago, having just woken up, and drifting in between a state of dazed semi-consciousness and unconsciousness when it hit me.

No one in this thread (from the time I've joined) has yet posted anything bad on RM. I mean, all of us seem to love this show so much. Yet, there must have been somethings/somepart of both seasons that you may not have liked. Care to share what they are?

For me, the part I did not like about the starting of S2 was the way they resurrected SuiginTou out the blue. I mean, it was nice seeing her back, but it seemed like so much of a mere plot device for the continuation of the story. I would at least have expected a reasonable explanation of who brought her back, and if so, why?

Well, thats mine bone to pick. Any RM haters? Feel free to post!!

That's the problem, we here love RM too much. Anyway, Gin-sama is always a bit anaemic, I think.

Thewanderer
2006-06-24, 11:21
4000GET

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Deadbrain80/Randomness/1150746273896.gif