The General Discussion of Haruhi Suzumiya

[ellifeedn]

I would think that they would do the whole 2nd novel as it shows what happened during the shooting of the movie they made (who could say which it'll be (2nd or 4th), they may even do both, but I bet it'll be just one), but I agree that Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody and Endless Eight should be part of the second season, maybe save Snow Mountain Syndrome for later as we don't know how many episodes it'll make (since it's kinda long) and how many episodes the whole-story novel will make.


After thinking about it, maybe they will name the second season after the whole-story novel they choose like with the first novel in the first season and name several episodes in the same manner.

[Cloud05]

Is there going to be another season?

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

maybe there will be a second season as soon as kyoto animations finish up Kanon
i mean is this the first time Kyoto animations has done a series more than fourteen episodes??
but a second season of Suzumiya Haruhi no yuutsu is more likely to happen due to the popularity of this show in japan!!
just as "ellifeedn" said its likely for Kyoto animations to call the second season based off the title of the novel that they are animating!!

[sliceman22]

maybe there will be a second season as soon as kyoto animations finish up Kanon
i mean is this the first time Kyoto animations has done a series more than fourteen episodes??
but a second season of Suzumiya Haruhi no yuutsu is more likely to happen due to the popularity of this show in japan!!
just as "ellifeedn" said its likely for Kyoto animations to call the second season based off the title of the novel that they are animating!!

well.....those are the rumors..
i heard that they will make all the manga into anime.;)

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

yea true thats all the rumors thats been goin around recently
maybe we will know once Kanon is finished or maybe around the mid-point of this year
only tIme will tell!!!

[Skane]

Lucky Star comes first, after Kanon.

Narf.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

woah what is "Lucky Star"??
a new anime show from Kyoto animations after Kanon??

[Klashikari]

you can find some information here : http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=36343

as for a possible second season, we don't know which anime KyoAni will animate. (they have several choices in fact. they can animate the sequel of FMP TRS)

[Vexx]

woah what is "Lucky Star"??
a new anime show from Kyoto animations after Kanon??

Its from a short format comic called "Lucky.Star" that some people compare to Azumanga Daioh for silly factor. Check in the Unaired forum of animesuki for discussion. Kanon has announced its on their table after Kanon.

They've said they'll do a follow-on season for Haruhi but I've gotten mixed noises about whether that means "summer", "fall" or "winter" - which means that there may be room for FMP or another item.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Its from a short format comic called "Lucky.Star" that some people compare to Azumanga Daioh for silly factor. Check in the Unaired forum of animesuki for discussion. Kanon has announced its on their table after Kanon.

They've said they'll do a follow-on season for Haruhi but I've gotten mixed noises about whether that means "summer", "fall" or "winter" - which means that there may be room for FMP or another item.

oh okay thanks for the info
but about the second season of Haruhi sounds pretty long
and i"m also a fan of FULL METAL PANIC and yea that does sound like a long time before we get to see some sequel to TSR from the recent novels
and the novels look long enough for another season also
not to mention so does the Haruhi novels as well
Lucky Star sounds like a good anime show so i"ll go check it out after Kanon is finished!!:D

BTW!!
i just checked out the info for Lucky Star on anime news network and
AYA HIRANO IS DOING VA FOR THIS SHOW AS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS!!!
now i really am going to look out for this show
and plus i just read from the Lucky Star thread in the "unaired anime" section and someone mentioned that kyoto animation is putting in "Haruhi jokes" into this anime!!
i"ve never did checked out Azumanga Daioh but i heard its a pretty funny anime!!
kool i"m checking Lucky Star out when it is aired later in spring time!!

[Sushi-Y]

BTW!!
i just checked out the info for Lucky Star on anime news network and
AYA HIRANO IS DOING VA FOR THIS SHOW AS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS!!!
now i really am going to look out for this show
Actually, for most Lucky Star fans, we're not so thrilled about the fact that they're swapping out Hirohashi Ryou and putting Aya-chan on Konata role, especially considering she was already Kyoani's big star in 2006. But, well, they're swapping the entire drama CD cast, so I guess the same could be said for everyone.

Still, Hirano Aya has proven herself to be a nice actress, so we can only hope she can melt into Konata's role well.

and plus i just read from the Lucky Star thread in the "unaired anime" section and someone mentioned that kyoto animation is putting in "Haruhi jokes" into this anime!!
You mean that reference to Minami being similar to Yuki, therefore the role went to Chihara Minori? It's not really a joke or anything. Minami is a quiet girl, although that's about all she has in common with Yuki. The voice actress swap here is a little more reasonable though, since it's true that Yuki's quiet image fits Minami as well.

There aren't any references to any in-house jokes yet, but I'm sure there will be. After all, Konata is an otaku girl, and Suzumiya Haruhi was all the rage among otakus last year.
They've said they'll do a follow-on season for Haruhi but I've gotten mixed noises about whether that means "summer", "fall" or "winter" - which means that there may be room for FMP or another item.
Even if Lucky Star will only be a 1-cour series (and it most likely will be), Kyoani won't be able to get started on a second season of Haruhi until Fall (since Lucky Star will be taking up the Summer slot), or maybe even Winter.

Personally, I'm still praying for a CLANNAD TV anime from them through. :heh:

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The complete ED dance is, well, complete. In a couple of weeks, the fans will be able to feast their eyes on this in motion ^^;
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9666/07010602gd6.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07010602gd6.jpg)

[CrowKenobi]

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The complete ED dance is, well, complete. In a couple of weeks, the fans will be able to feast their eyes on this in motion ^^;
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9666/07010602gd6.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07010602gd6.jpg)Do you think they'll use this version on the US DVD release? :D

[IchiKyo]

Do you think they'll use this version on the US DVD release? :D

I don't think so
I've never seen an more than 1min30 US Ending
Maybe the same Bonus on the Last US DVD of Haruhi...

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Actually, for most Lucky Star fans, we're not so thrilled about the fact that they're swapping out Hirohashi Ryou and putting Aya-chan on Konata role, especially considering she was already Kyoani's big star in 2006. But, well, they're swapping the entire drama CD cast, so I guess the same could be said for everyone.

Still, Hirano Aya has proven herself to be a nice actress, so we can only hope she can melt into Konata's role well.


You mean that reference to Minami being similar to Yuki, therefore the role went to Chihara Minori? It's not really a joke or anything. Minami is a quiet girl, although that's about all she has in common with Yuki. The voice actress swap here is a little more reasonable though, since it's true that Yuki's quiet image fits Minami as well.

There aren't any references to any in-house jokes yet, but I'm sure there will be. After all, Konata is an otaku girl, and Suzumiya Haruhi was all the rage among otakus last year.

Even if Lucky Star will only be a 1-cour series (and it most likely will be), Kyoani won't be able to get started on a second season of Haruhi until Fall (since Lucky Star will be taking up the Summer slot), or maybe even Winter.

Personally, I'm still praying for a CLANNAD TV anime from them through. :heh:

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The complete ED dance is, well, complete. In a couple of weeks, the fans will be able to feast their eyes on this in motion ^^;
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9666/07010602gd6.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07010602gd6.jpg)



ahaha~i see where you're getting at
anyways i just can that i'm looking forward to watching this anime series once it hits japan's T.V.s later on this spring!!:D
and thanks for the info on "lucky star" Sushi-Y!!:D

oh yea and i was wondering when you mentioned that they replaced some VA"s for this show
did "lucky star" aired in japan sometime ago already?? or was that their first choice of VA"s then they decided to change it??

[sliceman22]

So whats the season called? It going to be out in feb 7?

[GyroidFanatic]

did "lucky star" aired in japan sometime ago already?? or was that their first choice of VA"s then they decided to change it??

the manga had CDs released for it

It going to be out in feb 7?

Uhh... Kyoto Animation's still going to be in the middle of Kanon then...

[xris]

There is now a new thread for discussion of the possibility of a second season.

The Second Season Speculation of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=41292)

Please continue any further discussion on this topic in the new thread :) PM me if there are any posts that still require moving from here to the new thread.

[Woland]

From Aime News Service (http://www.animenewsservice.com/)


1-7-07 (8:28PM EST)---- New Haruhi Suzumiya Light Novel To Be Published
Writer Nagaru Tanigawa and Artist Noizi Ito have signed on to produce the long awaited Volume 9 light novel of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. The past print iterations have all served as the basic canonical underpinning of spinoff media such as manga and anime. The formal title and release date is currently unclear. SOS group members distributed solicitation handbills last month hyping the news, look for a big scoop in the March issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Sneaker Magazine.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

the manga had CDs released for it



Uhh... Kyoto Animation's still going to be in the middle of Kanon then...

oh okay thanks for the info!!:D

and about the new light novel of haruhi
volume nine
sounds epic or something
what do you guys think its about???

[Woland]

Well, I don't know

ANS news like that (yeah, yeah, I'm the one who reported it :heh: ) feel often too generic or confusing for any clear interpretation... I'm personally waiting for some good news "attached" with the complete animated version of Hare Hare Yukai... a very small hope, indeed ^^;

[typhonsentra]

Bah, I thought it was supposed to be released in February.... not have news about the release come in March!

[GyroidFanatic]

Volume 9 is Suzumiya Haruhi no Housou, and all we know is that it's supposed to involve Haruhi's family.

[typhonsentra]

Good, it's strange how we've never seen them. Most confusing was in book one how the only person she wanted from the "Old World".... wasn't a family member.

[Kaoru Chujo]

A live event has just been announced (http://www.haruhi.tv/fanclub/special_event.html#live). It will take place March 2 in Saitama, and the entire main cast will be there: Hirano Aya (Haruhi), Sugita Tomokazu (Kyon), Gotou Yuuko (Mikuru), Chihara Minori (Yuki), Ono Daisuke (Itsuki), Yuki Matsuoka (Tsuruya-san), Aoki Sayaka (Kyon's imouto), and Shiraishi Minoru (Taniguchi). It will go from 4:00 pm to 8:00 pm and tickets will cost Y4500 (about $40 US).

On her blog (http://www.hiranoaya.com/html/diary-top.html), Hirano Aya just had a picture of herself practicing God Knows on the guitar, so perhaps that will be part of the show. Chihara Minori has played guitar in previous events, so perhaps they will play together.

Almost worth a trip to Japan....

[Julius Firefocht]

A live event has just been announced (http://www.haruhi.tv/fanclub/special_event.html#live). It will take place March 2 in Saitama, and the entire main cast will be there: Hirano Aya (Haruhi), Sugita Tomokazu (Kyon), Gotou Yuuko (Mikuru), Chihara Minori (Yuki), Ono Daisuke (Itsuki), Yuki Matsuoka (Tsuruya-san), Aoki Sayaka (Kyon's imouto), and Shiraishi Minoru (Taniguchi). It will go from 4:00 pm to 8:00 pm and tickets will cost Y4500 (about $40 US).

On her blog (http://www.hiranoaya.com/html/diary-top.html), Hirano Aya just had a picture of herself practicing God Knows on the guitar, so perhaps that will be part of the show. Chihara Minori has played guitar in previous events, so perhaps they will play together.

Almost worth a trip to Japan....

This links back to the rumors I heard of the seiyuu cast practicing the dance steps for Hare Hare Yukai. It could be for this event after all.

Hirano Aya and Chihara Minori performing God Knows live would be utterly stunning.

[Noppapana]

about the blog
is it me of Aya-chan change her haircolor ? it used to be black IIRC

[Kaoru Chujo]

about the blog
is it me of Aya-chan change her haircolor ? it used to be black IIRCYes, she changed it -- without getting final approval from her manager, apparently. More detail in the Voice Actor thread.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

A live event has just been announced (http://www.haruhi.tv/fanclub/special_event.html#live). It will take place March 2 in Saitama, and the entire main cast will be there: Hirano Aya (Haruhi), Sugita Tomokazu (Kyon), Gotou Yuuko (Mikuru), Chihara Minori (Yuki), Ono Daisuke (Itsuki), Yuki Matsuoka (Tsuruya-san), Aoki Sayaka (Kyon's imouto), and Shiraishi Minoru (Taniguchi). It will go from 4:00 pm to 8:00 pm and tickets will cost Y4500 (about $40 US).

On her blog (http://www.hiranoaya.com/html/diary-top.html), Hirano Aya just had a picture of herself practicing God Knows on the guitar, so perhaps that will be part of the show. Chihara Minori has played guitar in previous events, so perhaps they will play together.

Almost worth a trip to Japan....


oh wow that sounds like some exciting stuff!!
and it will be a worthwhile trip to japan just to see this live performance
especially with Hirano Aya doing a live performance of "god knows" with the VA for Yuki Chihara Minori
damn sounds too good!!:D

[Chi-no]

Too bad I can't be there to enjoy these .... :(

[Woland]

From http://www.animenewsservice.com/


Mega e-tailer Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/289855011) Japan has launched a special otaku store collecting anime and manga related products on December 18th, 2006. Around 30,000 items are present in the store, searchable according to character / director, etc. Amazon has also apparently licensed Haruhi Suzumiya to appear on the store's main banner.

[Julius Firefocht]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of our finest hours. We are on Amazon's main banner!

Praise be to the God-Empress!

[LCeh]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of our finest hours. We are on Amazon's main banner!

Praise be to the God-Empress!

I am sorry, but I can't find what you are referring to. I went all over Amazon and can't find the banner. :heh:

[Woland]

You have to go in this area (http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/289855011) as I reported in my previous mesage (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=804487&postcount=2280) ;)

[eggplant]

Tickets for advanced sales of the Suzumiya Haruhi no Gekisou live event went on sale from this morning at select Animate stores and their online sites.

Having read on 2ch that the queue for the correpsonding stores exceeded 100 persons, I decided to give it a try on the online site from 10AM.

After struggling with server access difficulties and despite taking 30 minutes, I was finally able to procure one ticket for the March 18th event.

I will make a report of the event on this thread, hoping that the announcement for the second series will take place on that day, although there is the possibility KyoAni will do it the following week at the Internatonal Anime Fair, similar to the way they announced Kanon last year.

[IchiKyo]

http://skillup.sakura.ne.jp/emu/top.html
Huh What it is? O_o

[Tokkan]

http://skillup.sakura.ne.jp/emu/top.html
Huh What it is? O_o

That's called "Emu Sukuranburu" and it's an eroge that parodies Haruhi.

[IchiKyo]

Oh... So it's another Eroge Game
Ok thanks Rob The Fox

[Akemae]

So, here's a theoretical question to pose, which ties in to the current "conspiracy" underway at www.asosbrigade.com :

If you were a system admin and your telnet username was haruhi, what would be your password? ;)

I would only be a little bit surprised if the ASOS people were putting easter eggs in restricted files... *shrug*

I won't be pursuing this personally, but anyone with the proper knowledge is encouraged to take it up. Maybe add a few million to the counter while you are there. :)

[OMG_Zerg_Rush]

from ANN:

The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi Volume 1 in May
In further Suzumiya Haruhi news, Bandai Entertainment has updated the asosbrigade.com website with a new video, which includes the announcement that The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi Volume 1 will be released on May 29. A special edition, with box (for all 4 volumes) will also be released. The video also makes some comments regarding fansubs available on YouTube and through BitTorrent. It is stated that "It is pretty cool" (that people are already watching Suzumiya Haruhi fansubbed) but recommend/request that fans also buy the DVD (it's the only way to save this plane of existence according to Yuki).
2.4 hours ago - 2007-01-26 00:41 EST

The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi Video Second Most Watched Video on Youtube
The Suzumiya Haruhi Special Version Ending, from the volume 7 DVD release, uploaded to YouTube on the 24th of January was the second most viewed video on the 25th of January, having been viewed over 240,000 times in just over a day. It is also the #1 rated video and the #7 most discussed video for the 25th.
2.8 hours ago - 2007-01-26 00:20 EST

[GyroidFanatic]

If you were a system admin and your telnet username was haruhi, what would be your password?

It's not alien.

Well... I'm out of ideas.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

It's not alien.

Well... I'm out of ideas.

It's either the Greek word for "dog", or the name of the man who was saved from execution by Pocahontas in 1607.:p

[panzerfan]

Well, I would be appalled if you would actually rely on telnet in this day and age, that protocol is just too much of a liability today... although answer to that password question, I'd go with Valiant's suggestion in a beat.

[GyroidFanatic]

Nope to both of them

[Question]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQSypUaOxbk&mode=related&search=

So this is why yuki was waving the mouse around in that episode....

[Shinova]

I think it's john smith.

[Mirrinus]

Haruhi on AnimeTV is up:

http://www.goanimetv.com/watch_animetv/index.php

Now, about the clips of the English dub that they showed. I like Stephanie Sheh's work with Mikuru, sounds fairly close to the original. What little we heard of Crispin Freeman as Kyon actually made me laugh, I admit. Wendee Lee as Haruhi is going to take a bit of getting used to, though, as my opinion kinda wavered based on the scene. And Johnny Bosch still hasn't quite got the pronounciation for Haruhi's name down... Guess we still have to wait and see...

Oh, and I thought it was funny how all the female reviewers were wearing yellow Haruhi-style hair ribbons.

[myopius]

Every time I think about this show I want to rewatch some part of an episode, and I end up watching the whole or more than one. At the very least, I end up watching the OP/ED a few times over.

And having read the novels and knowing how much better the story/characters get just enhances how much I enjoy the nuances of the different scenes.

Seriously, this show rocked, and continues to rock. I can't wait until it hits the U.S. and mainstream anime fans over here start to realize how amazing it is, and I don't have to just linger around not talking about this show to anyone. In fact, I really should reinstall some applications on my computer so I can burn the fansubs it to a playable DVD for my local club, but I should be busy doing a ton of work.

[zoozoc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQSypUaOxbk&mode=related&search=

So this is why yuki was waving the mouse around in that episode....

Wow, i never noticed that, i always wondered why she did that.

[Vexx]

AnimeTV .... I suppose it was inevitable but I found the general style attention-deficit and they really should have let the long-haired asian guy run it instead of the host they had :) .... I suppose they're trying to make it "mainstream okay" to watch anime with their crew (really too big a crew).

They did a fair job I suppose of presenting some of the different viewpoints of the Haruhi phenomenom .... though the voice dubs in English had me O.o -- it may have been a streaming issue on the sync.
Main weakness with voice dubs seemed to be Haruhi just *wasn't* genki enough - specifically didn't seem to chatter fast enough. Mikuru and Nagato seemed to come off pretty well in the clip and there wasn't enough Kyon to make a judgement though he certainly seemed to lack the crusty sarcasm I would expect.

[typhonsentra]

I don't know how seriously we should take AnimeTV. Isn't it a promotional video put out by the company that's handling the Haruhi DVDs?

[GyroidFanatic]

I don't know how seriously we should take AnimeTV. Isn't it a promotional video put out by the company that's handling the Haruhi DVDs?
No...

It's a internet show put out by the company that's coincidentally dubbing the series, Bang Zoom!.

[Li Jianliang]

SOS-dan sent out its 3rd e-mail today.
すまん、最近色々忙しかったんでちょっと時間が開いてしまったが、SOS団メール
マガジンの3回目だ。
何が忙しかったかって？　穴を掘ったり亀を放しに行ったり、色々とやることが
あったんだよ。しかもそのミニクエストの後には、捕らわれのお姫様を救い出すビ
ッグイベントまであったもんだから、勇者でもない俺が疲労困憊しているのも許し
てほしいね。……まあ、あの時は俺はほとんど何もしてなかったけど。
で、そっちが一段落したんで、その隙にこのメルマガを書いているところだ。何
しろまたすぐに忙しくなりそうだからなあ。次は何が忙しくなるかというと、3月
18日にやるSOS団ライブ「涼宮ハルヒの激奏」の準備だよ。
ハルヒの奴が学園祭のライブに参加して味を占め、SOS団でバンドを作って次の学
祭に参加すると言いだした……ということがあったのはご記憶と思う。そのあと実
際に、ハルヒは俺達SOS団のメンバーに楽器を持たせて練習させて、アマチュアバン
ドの合同ライブに参加しようとしたという話は、「涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱　ドラマCD　
サウンドアラウンド」定価3,000円（税込）絶賛発売中ば～いランティスに収録され
てい・る・ん・だ・が！　……あ？　宣伝はいい？　いや宣伝しておかないとまず
いんだよ色々と政治的事情ってやつで。見逃してくれ。
ともかく、その合同ライブ参加計画が潰れたあと「合同ライブなんかもったいな
いわ、SOS団で単独ライブよ！」なんてハルヒはぶっていた。そうしたら、またも
むぁたも古泉の奴が「会場なら、僕の知り合いのつてで用意できると思いますよ」
なんておっしゃってくださいやがりましたのですよ！
こうして本当に借りることになっちまったんだよ、大宮ソニックシティ大ホール。
まあ別につてがなくても借りようと思えば借りられるものだが、もちろんタダなわ
けがない。その金は『機関』ってのが払ったんだろうが、大ホールだぞ？　俺達の
ライブを見にいったい何人やって来ると思っているんだ、閑古鳥で会場がスカスカ
だったら寒いぞ、せいぜい市民会館程度にしておけばいいのに……とか思っていた
わけだ。
そうしたら前売りチケットが瞬殺！　ハルヒの能力がみんなを洗脳してチケット
を買いに走らせたんじゃないかと疑ったが、直接販売では「早朝から並んだのに買
えなかった」という人が大量に出たみたいだし、ネット販売ではあまりの大量アク
セスにサーバーがダウンして、例によってハルヒにこき使われていたコンピ研の人
々が、真珠湾攻撃直後のアメリカ太平洋艦隊参謀将校みたいに青くなりながら必死
で働いていた。
「こんなことなら武道館にしておけば良かったわねえ」なんてハルヒは言ってたけ
ど、アニメロサマーライブとかじゃないんだぞ？　こんなことになるなんて、普通
想像できんだろ？　ネアンデルタール人に量子力学を理解しろというのと同じくら
い無茶だね。こんな事になるとは思ってなかったから、「このライブに参加したか
ったけどチケットが手に入らなかった」って人にはホントーにすまん！　ライブの
ようすを収録したDVDをあとから出すって話もあるので、それでどうにか勘弁してく
れ。

で、今回のネタをいくつか。

●キャラソンCD、Vol.8とVol.9が発売

って俺だー！　まさかとは思ってたんだが到頭俺の順番が来ちまった。この俺が
歌ってCDを出すことになっちまったんだよ。ハルヒにさんざんダメ出しされながら
やったレコーディングのことはあんまり思い出したくない……。一体誰がこんなCD
を買うというのかまったくわからんし、むしろ買わないで欲しいが、2月21日発売。
あーそうそう、ついでに古泉のCDもいっしょに発売。

●月刊ニュータイプにて、しつこく特集記事が掲載中

そういえば本の角川からニュータイプ3月号が発売中なんだが、そちらについてい
る別冊付録の応募券を使って応募すると、さっき書いたSOS団ライブのチケットが抽
選で貰えるという。だけど当選するのはたったの3人！　俺はよく知らないんだけど、
この手の雑誌の抽選ってどれくらい応募が来るものなんだ？　物凄く競争率が高そ
うだが……。まあ「神様！　仏様！　ハルヒ様！」と祈れば、万が一にも御利益が
あるからな。その代償としてハルヒに魂取られても俺は知らん。応募締切は2月28日。
そういやこの別冊付録は何かということを書いてなかったが、平野綾さん、茅原
実里さん、後藤邑子さんのラジオ番組についてのもの。「ぜんぶで68Pの大ボリュー
ム！　ラジオで未放送のネタも大特集で紹介してるよ。キミのネタも紹介されてい
るかもね♪」 だと。

そしてかなり先の話になって気が早いんだが、4月10日発売のニュータイプ5月号
では、ポスターでSOS団ライブのレポートが掲載されるらしい……。しかもカラーの
特大両面ポスターで「SOS団のポスター＆大充実のライブレポート！」だそうだ。
こんなものどうやってねじ込んだんだ。これもまた古泉のツテなのか？
しかしこの雑誌は、いつまでハルヒのネタで引っぱるつもりなんだ。4月なんだか
ら春のアニメ新番組は紹介しなくていいんだろうか。『らき☆すた』とか。

●文化庁メディア芸術祭で推薦作品に選ばれてしまった

文化庁メディア芸術祭で『涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱』が審査委員会推薦作品に選ばれた
そうだ。「推薦」ってことは「見た方がいい」と勧めてるってことだろう？　それ
も文化庁が？　ハルヒの蛮行の数々ははたして「メディアの芸術」と言うに値する
のだろうか？　まあともかく、せっかくなのでありがたく頂戴しておこう。
それで、メディア芸術祭受賞作品展というのが東京都写真美術館で、2月24日から
3月4日まで行われる。『涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱』も会場内にあるアニメーション部門展
示フロアのミニシアターで上映されることになった。詳しくはメディア芸術祭のサ
イト(http://plaza.bunka.go.jp/)を見てくれ。

●ワンフェスでSOS団コスプレフィギュアが発売

おもちゃのキャラアニが、2月25日に東京ビッグサイトで開催されるワンダーフェ
スティバル2007［冬］(http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/wf/)に出展する。その時に「SOS
団コスプレコレクション」を発売するそうだ。
写真は下記のキャラアニサイトに掲載されているが、ひと言でいうとハルヒ、長
門、朝比奈さんの着せ替え可能なフィギュアだな。こらそこ！　着せ替えという言
葉を聞いて変な想像をしない！　断じてスカートだけ外して飾ったりするんじゃな
いぞ！　ワンフェス当日は、朝比奈さんのバニーフィギュアもつくって話だ。限定
とか先着とかいう言葉を餌にしてまた列を伸ばそうというのか……いい迷惑だ。
http://www.chara-ani.com/pickup.asp?html=index.html&path=wf2007w

●長門のバニーガールフィギュアも発売

今まで何種類も、ハルヒと朝比奈さんのバニーガール姿フィギュアが発売、もし
くは発表されてきた。そしてまたもバニーガール姿のフィギュアが新発売！　一体
これで何体目なんだと思っていたら今度は長門！　長門のバニーガール姿なんて見
たことなかったが、ハルヒの奴、いつの間にか着せてたのか？　畜生なんでその時
俺を呼ばなかった、ちょっと見てみたかったぞ。
フィギュアの方は、白バニーと黒バニーと赤バニーの3種類があって、キャラアニ
限定販売の赤バニーだけが生足、あとはストッキングだそうだ。俺は別に、正統派
のバニーはかくあるべしとか議論する気もないし、ストッキングフェチでもないか
ら、単純に素足の方が綺麗だと思うんだが。まあ己のリビドーの赴くままに好きな
色のバニーを選んでくれ。発売は4月下旬予定だけど、キャラアニ限定赤バニーは2
月26日予約締切だから注意してほしい。
詳細はキャラアニのサイトで（http://www.chara-ani.com/）。

今回のメルマガはこんなところだ。もうこのメルマガはいらないという人は、
http://www.haruhi.tv/entry.html の退団フォームで申請してくれ。
しかし、あれだけ散々「ハルヒが図に乗るからこのメルマガの話題はするな」と
書いておいたのにもかかわらず、やたらと話題にされてしまったため、このメルマ
ガ、やめるにやめられなくなってしまった。メルマガをネタにして同人誌が作られ
ていたのを見たときはマジでびっくりしたぞ。前に書いた「ハルヒがTIME誌の表紙
に出たがる」なんてネタ、俺もすっかり忘れてた。
だから「話題にするな」と言うのはもう諦めた。でも「早く次を出せ」とか「も
っと面白くしろ」とか期待されても困る。
まあ、ぬる～くやっていくんで次もいつかわからんが、よろしく。

発行：SOS団（http://www.haruhi.tv/）　文責：キョン
協力：北高コンピュータ研究部
発行者：涼宮ハルヒ

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

woah with all the current news about HARUHI in both the states and in japan
its getting me all excited
especially with the announcement of the new novels being released in April!!

[Woland]

from ANS (http://www.animenewsservice.com/)


3-1-07 (3:01AM EST)---- Haruhi Suzumiya Live Action Drama Next?

A February 23rd entry (http://blog.livedoor.jp/sawaimaho/archives/50884437.html) at Japanese actress Sawai Maho's blog might have dropped a bombshell on what's coming up next in the Suzumiya Haruhi universe. It mentions that finally the "Haruhi Second Step" is about to take place with pictures (or possibly filiming) to begin "next week". The blog goes on to mention the actress will play the role of Ryoko Asakura. On August 7th, 2006 ANS first mentioned news of an announced 6 episode live action Haruhi Suzumiya television drama to broadcast via BS-i this autumn. Yahoo even wrote a news article on it but later retracted. The official Haruhi Suzumiya immediately carried the following message thereafter: "I'm sorry wait a little more". On March 2nd a major 4 hour event is scheduled to occur in Saitama, Japan featuring the entire main anime cast. There's a great deal of specualtion in Japanese fan circles that a large announcement on the future of the franchise will be made there.

[Cloud05]

;848360']from ANS (http://www.animenewsservice.com/)


3-1-07 (3:01AM EST)---- Haruhi Suzumiya Live Action Drama Next?

A February 23rd entry (http://blog.livedoor.jp/sawaimaho/archives/50884437.html) at Japanese actress Sawai Maho's blog might have dropped a bombshell on what's coming up next in the Suzumiya Haruhi universe. It mentions that finally the "Haruhi Second Step" is about to take place with pictures (or possibly filiming) to begin "next week". The blog goes on to mention the actress will play the role of Ryoko Asakura. On August 7th, 2006 ANS first mentioned news of an announced 6 episode live action Haruhi Suzumiya television drama to broadcast via BS-i this autumn. Yahoo even wrote a news article on it but later retracted. The official Haruhi Suzumiya immediately carried the following message thereafter: "I'm sorry wait a little more". On March 2nd a major 4 hour event is scheduled to occur in Saitama, Japan featuring the entire main anime cast. There's a great deal of specualtion in Japanese fan circles that a large announcement on the future of the franchise will be made there.

That just confuses me, Does that mean they want to make a "real" show out of it?

If that is the case, I would prefer just a second season of the anime.:uhoh:

[Shii]

;848360']It mentions that finally the "Haruhi Second Step" is about to take place with pictures (or possibly filiming) to begin "next week". The blog goes on to mention the actress will play the role of Ryoko Asakura.
As long as it's better than Hahiru I am all for this.

[panzerfan]

Live Action Haruhi, I am not surprised at all...

o yes, Imouto just won against Misuzu in sailoli.

[Vexx]

I'm not surprised at the idea of live-action Haruhi (rumor or whatever).... but they'd better have a STELLAR budget for SFX.... that is one major advantage animation has over live-action. It costs only a little more to draw a kick-ass scene than a boring room.

I too would rather see a second anime season than live-action though. Live-action would have the same issue as dubs: finding actors who can actually carry the roles in a manner that intersects with the original interpretations.

[CrowKenobi]

I'm not surprised at the idea of live-action Haruhi (rumor or whatever).... but they'd better have a STELLAR budget for SFX.... that is one major advantage animation has over live-action. It costs only a little more to draw a kick-ass scene than a boring room.

I too would rather see a second anime season than live-action though. Live-action would have the same issue as dubs: finding actors who can actually carry the roles in a manner that intersects with the original interpretations.On top of that, they'll probably rehash the first book giving us another retelling of it. :p

:cool:

[FatPianoBoy]

On top of that, they'll probably rehash the first book giving us another retelling of it. :p


I thought the anime followed the first book almost exactly, with just a few minor differences in the way Kyon handled the involuntary raepage of Mikuru at the hands of the computer club president, splicing the chapters with Ryoko and Big Mikuru, and a few others.

[CrowKenobi]

I thought the anime followed the first book almost exactly, with just a few minor differences in the way Kyon handled the involuntary raepage of Mikuru at the hands of the computer club president, splicing the chapters with Ryoko and Big Mikuru, and a few others.Oops! I forgot to turn my [sarcasm] mode on. :D

But anyway, think of it this way: Book 1, Anime, Manga, and now a live action drama... How many more times can one tell the story from novel 1? (more importantly, how do the producers of said drama make theirs stand apart from the anime?) ;)

:cool:

[Skane]

AnimeNewsNetwork is doing a poll, and SHnY is one of the options. ;)

This or That? (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/poll.php?id=123&page=booth)

Cheers.

[darkchibi07]

AnimeNewsNetwork is doing a poll, and SHnY is one of the options. ;)

This or That? (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/poll.php?id=123&page=booth)

Cheers.

I bet they're going to compare the number of units sold with the Afro Samurai ones since both of those titles are released around the same time. Now guess which one is going to sell more.

[zoozoc]

I bet they're going to compare the number of units sold with the Afro Samurai ones since both of those titles are released around the same time. Now guess which one is going to sell more.

Hm...I wonder? ;)

[darkchibi07]

Hmmm, it looks like a live-action version of Haruhi Suzumiya is confirmed. Dormcat, one of ANN's Encyclopedia staff editors posted this:

BREAKING NEWS: Haruhi to be live-action drama
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/sarasiru/

Yui Aragaki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=54012) as Haruhi Suzumiya
Kenichi Matsuyama (http://www.horipro.co.jp/hm/matuyama/) as Kyon (weird, ANN has his name (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=61874) but not credited to anything)
Erika Toda (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=54109) as Mikuru Asahina (with only 75 cm bust?!)
Mei Kurokawa (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=23925) as Yuki Nagato
Yuma Ishigaki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=17779) as Itsuki koizumi

To be broadcasted on BS-i. No detailed schedule yet.

[FatPianoBoy]

In before 'OMG Teh sux!!1' weeaboo rampage.

Seeing two of the girls being younger than myself (the other one just barely older) makes me feel old :sad:

I guess it's really too early to know whether or not it'll be any good. I don't know much about J-drama (an episode of Salaryman Kentarou and the first few of Densha Otoko encompass my entire experience), so I don't know what the actors are like.

[cmage]

I've never seen any of these actors in a drama before, so I don't know what to expect. The few J-drama I've seen are rather good, so I'm keeping my hopes up. Though...I haven't watched any drama the effects this'll need. :uhoh:

[FatPianoBoy]

Though...I haven't watched any drama the effects this'll need. :uhoh:

I'd like to see the guys who did the special effects on the Saikano movie handle this. The movie sucked, but the CG was amazing. Considering the popularity of the franchise, they may have to budget to do the effects proper.


Also, something just occurred to me: what if this is our second season? Do we know what novel(s) it will cover? If this information is on the page posted before, feel free to slap me around for not taking a closer look before asking questions.

[MakubeX2]

Someone actually called Kadokawa and BS-i to confirm about the report :-

http://www.new-akiba.com/archives/2007/03/_bsi.html

Kadokawa respond is "No comment" and BS-i is one of "it's a misprint"

[Vexx]

If this is true and if the Negima!? live action is true... we may be seeing a trend in anime production towards live-action as more of the japan population likes the story ideas but can't tolerate being caught watching anime.
I find this trend disturbing (if only it may put some fine VAs out of work) and the simple fact that you lose the *art* that anime can do that live-action simply can't.

I rather hope this is just bullfarts like that Azumanga hoax a few years ago...

[FatPianoBoy]

I find it much easier to swallow if it's at least trying to offer something extra - like being told from Haruhi's perspective. However, if it's just going to be a simple retelling in live-action, I do feel a bit of resentment.

[Cloud05]

So I have a question... Is it still legal to watch the show over the internet, and if so is it legel to download it and put it on a iPod video?

[wtflux]

edited out, wrong thread

[Zeytoo0]

Wow, just finished it for the first time all the way through, and I gotta say, thats one of the best shows ive ever seen. They're wern't even any plotholes... except one.

Why the hell was the cat talking in the first episode ? :p

/demand continuation/OVA ^_^

[Ku-chan]

Why the hell was the cat talking in the first episode ? :p

Read the novels.
Or, more specifically, volume 2, the Sighs of Suzumiya Haruhi.
It's in Chapter 5.

[Tatsumiko]

I only saw the first episode of haruhi...thats why I didn't read any of your post....should I continue watching?

[X207]

Wow, just finished it for the first time all the way through, and I gotta say, thats one of the best shows ive ever seen. They're wern't even any plotholes... except one.

Why the hell was the cat talking in the first episode ? :p

/demand continuation/OVA ^_^

yup the talking cat is explained in the novel, funny as hell that it happened. just the preparations to film thier movie were quite interesting.
dont be surprised if they left out an explanation for event that happened in novel that wasnt shown in anime

[Zeytoo0]

I only saw the first episode of haruhi...thats why I didn't read any of your post....should I continue watching?

Definitely, its really a masterpiece.

[Sparkie]

I have to say that I liked the show, but I didn't really understand why certain things were happening. It was pretty funny though ^^ Kyon is cool. And I love the opening theme.

[Zeytoo0]

Hmm, theres nothing that I didnt understand as it went along really. Ofcourse, theres certain things which didnt make sense till the very last few scenes of the show, but if you had stayed awake and taken in everything that was going on you can piece it together right at the end and make perfect sense of everything. Thats how it happened for me anyway.

[risingstar3110]

Not everrything was explained, eg: like when Haruhi asked if she meet Kyon before(in chapter 2) or where the Frog's suit come from(Under the rain(?))...etc

But do not tell me now. Or i will fly to wherever you are (if you put the address on your profile, certainly) and smack you for every spoiler you guys put up here :P

[X207]

Not everrything was explained, eg: like when Haruhi asked if she meet Kyon before(in chapter 2) or where the Frog's suit come from(Under the rain(?))...etc

But do not tell me now. Or i will fly to wherever you are (if you put the address on your profile, certainly) and smack you for every spoiler you guys put up here :P

you should then read vol 2 where they go thru the process of filming the movie also
it explains 2 such topics

[Mirrinus]

Not everrything was explained, eg: like when Haruhi asked if she meet Kyon before(in chapter 2) or where the Frog's suit come from(Under the rain(?))...etc

I won't tell you the answers, but I can tell you where to look if you're curious to find out. Haruhi asking Kyon if she met him before is answered in the Volume 3 story "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody". The frog suit is first acquired in the Volume 5 story "Endless Eight".

[Sparkie]

Hmm, theres nothing that I didnt understand as it went along really. Ofcourse, theres certain things which didnt make sense till the very last few scenes of the show, but if you had stayed awake and taken in everything that was going on you can piece it together right at the end and make perfect sense of everything. Thats how it happened for me anyway.

Well thing is that I was never really able to keep my thoughts with the show. Because when I checked it out I never thought it would be that 'weird'. I think if I watch the whole show again, I'll understand it better.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Well thing is that I was never really able to keep my thoughts with the show. Because when I checked it out I never thought it would be that 'weird'. I think if I watch the whole show again, I'll understand it better.

You watched ep 0, yet you didn't think the show is weird?:twitch:
:eyespin: :heh:

[risingstar3110]

The 1st espisode is really good actually. I watched it quite late compare with other Haruhiism fans, but it took me 15 minutes or so to realise that Mikuru is not the main character.

For at least 1st 10 minutes, I thought Haruhi Suzumiya is just a side character , but is loved by a lot of fans, that's why she always appear in a lot forum signature or avatar ^^

[Sparkie]

You watched ep 0, yet you didn't think the show is weird?:twitch:
:eyespin: :heh:

No because that actually made perfect sense once you've saw the end. But I just mean with the end of the whole series and stuff, I just didn't really get it.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

No because that actually made perfect sense once you've saw the end. But I just mean with the end of the whole series and stuff, I just didn't really get it.

You are going to need to be more specific than that if you want us to answer the question... :heh:

[Sparkie]

You are going to need to be more specific than that if you want us to answer the question... :heh:

I don't have a question, I just said I didn't really get the end.

[Zeytoo0]

How come? That moment for me was the moment of clarity, absolutely everything made sense that came before, except the cat. (For me anyway) - The reason Haruhi and Kyon seemed so close, their un-spoken trust for each other, Haruhi being pissed off when Mikuru and him were doing questionable stuff, the reason why Kyon trusts Haruhi to not destroy the universe by doing something out of place (because hes with her).

The Chronology was a bit messed up but if you watched everything quick enough and double checked where each episode was in the timeline then it wasnt a problem. The start of each episode usually had Kyon introducing the time that it is set in anyway.

[Sparkie]

Hmm I didn't pay very good attention to the timeline actually. That's why I said I think it would be better if I just watched the whole show again, I'll probably understand it better. But my English is pretty crappy too, so that could be another reason why I didn't understand everything ^^

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

This has to be one of the more bizarrely funny anime series I have seen. Their movie project is awesome lol. Im gona need to go read the manga/novels for this as well!

[yukumushio]

Yay! I just finished the series, I have a question, does Kyon like Haruhi? This is a question for those futher in the novels. Thanks!

[TigerII]

Well, I am up to 9 and at first he really could not stand her, and he still denies liking her. But his actions say other wise. At one point she went missing and he became near histerical trying to find her. I think it is more of an unconscious liking to her. He will only opening say he likes Miruku, but he knows that will never work. She will have to return to her time one day. Also as the stories go along, he does not insult her much.

So short answer in my opinion: yes, he just doesn't know it.

[X207]

he does like her, he's just denying it atm. even so she isnt at the point where she'd consider that a possibiliy be cause she denies it too and think it would be a joke

[TigerII]

Yeah, don't really expect much. Both of them are just blowing it off but I feel further in the future(Around the end of the series) I am guessing they will finally accept it.

[X207]

lol it sorta sounds like a kagome-inuyasha style of relationships where they keep denying it and later on admit near end

[TigerII]

Ugh, don't mention Inuyasha. I watched that forever and was utterly disappointed by the end.

But yeah, I agree. I am guessing we will see it in the end. I really don't think Kyon has a choice. I mean she wants him and if he leaves, bye bye world.

[X207]

ya the end also disappointed me cause the story was far fom over, even so things could be starting the 1st steps to wrap up the manga.

i think the last haruhi volume will be mostly about those 2 accepting their feelings towards each other in their last year at the school

[yukumushio]

Sorry, I'm currently reading the short stories from the Haruhi Novels, I'm gonna go back to the main story after a bit, but I have a question, What was the incident 3 years ago that caused all the espers, aliens, time travlers and stuff to exist? (Tanabata Incident?) If it was, how did that trigger data explosions and all that stuff. If it's something revealed later in the novel, that is, after Volume 6, please tell me so (but not reveal what it is). If it's something that I missed or forgot that was BEFORE Volume 6, what was it? lol Thanks.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Sorry, I'm currently reading the short stories from the Haruhi Novels, I'm gonna go back to the main story after a bit, but I have a question, What was the incident 3 years ago that caused all the espers, aliens, time travlers and stuff to exist? (Tanabata Incident?) If it was, how did that trigger data explosions and all that stuff. If it's something revealed later in the novel, that is, after Volume 6, please tell me so (but not reveal what it is). If it's something that I missed or forgot that was BEFORE Volume 6, what was it? lol Thanks.

Short answer: Haruhi.

Long answer: Depending on who you believe.

Since you think aliens and time travelers were artificially created, am I right in suggesting you are currently following Itsuki's line of thought?

I strongly disagree with you on that front, only because "Haruhi made everything" is too boring an explanation. I have trust in the author in making it more interesting than that.

[TigerII]

Yeah, I don't think she made everything. There is alot more to it than she just made it all.

[FatPianoBoy]

I strongly disagree with you on that front, only because "Haruhi made everything" is too boring an explanation. I have trust in the author in making it more interesting than that.

*Insert shameless plug for Kyonism here* ;)

Tanigawa is always hinting at things long before they happen. Heck, even idle conversation could refer to events two volumes ahead. Heck, it's possible that he's already given several hints on the source of Haruhi's powers (one thing that has been almost completely ignored so far) but no one sees it because it doesn't look anything like forshadowing. I'm not sure if it's genius or part of the freedom of making it up as you go along, but it makes it a darn enjoyable read.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

*Insert shameless plug for Kyonism here* ;)

Tanigawa is always hinting at things long before they happen. Heck, even idle conversation could refer to events two volumes ahead. Heck, it's possible that he's already given several hints on the source of Haruhi's powers (one thing that has been almost completely ignored so far) but no one sees it because it doesn't look anything like forshadowing. I'm not sure if it's genius or part of the freedom of making it up as you go along, but it makes it a darn enjoyable read.

:heh:
Well, I also made it clear in the past that I don't agree with Kyonists either.

IMHO, "Kyon made everything" is only marginally less boring than "Haruhi made everything", after all.

[lftwgr]

I can't read Japanese so I rely on the translations at Baka-tsuki. If I'm not mistaken,

the 'big bang' of creation occurred when Mikuru (small) brought Kyon back to Tanabata (past) where Mikuru (big) encouraged 'John Smith' to help young Haruhi break into her middle school grounds and draw the infamous crop circles (which according to Yuki means 'I am here').

Kyon was wearing his North High uniform (which gave Haruhi the idea of going to North High) and he even mentioned that there were aliens, time-travelers and espers (since he was desperate to get back to the temporal dimension he is familiar with).

So you can say that the person responsible for 'creation' could be (in no particular order):

1. Mikuru - she brought Kyon back to ensure temporal continuity
2. Kyon - he planted the idea that aliens, etc. were real, and influenced Haruhi's choice of school
3. Haruhi - the autoevolved data creating entity

What I don't understand is the bits where (past) Yuki corrupts the data somehow and had to be altered by future Yuki (???)

Also Option 3 - Haruhi - seems a bit ominous if you consider that there is an alternate SOS-dan (centered around its own Haruhi-class god) somewhere out there.

Personally, I'm a Kyon Theorist who thinks that Kyon is responsible for everything that happens (unintentionally and haplessly).

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I can't read Japanese so I rely on the translations at Baka-tsuki. If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken,

the 'big bang' of creation occurred when Mikuru (small) brought Kyon back to Tanabata (past) where Mikuru (big) encouraged 'John Smith' to help young Haruhi break into her middle school grounds and draw the infamous crop circles (which according to Yuki means 'I am here').

Kyon was wearing his North High uniform (which gave Haruhi the idea of going to North High) and he even mentioned that there were aliens, time-travelers and espers (since he was desperate to get back to the temporal dimension he is familiar with).

So you can say that the person responsible for 'creation' could be (in no particular order):

1. Mikuru - she brought Kyon back to ensure temporal continuity
2. Kyon - he planted the idea that aliens, etc. were real, and influenced Haruhi's choice of school
3. Haruhi - the autoevolved data creating entity

What I don't understand is the bits where (past) Yuki corrupts the data somehow and had to be altered by future Yuki (???)

Also Option 3 - Haruhi - seems a bit ominous if you consider that there is an alternate SOS-dan somewhere out there.

Personally, I'm a Kyon Theorist who thinks that Kyon is responsible for everything that happens (unintentionally and haplessly).



No. The "big bang" was not able to be reached becaue no one could travel to that exact incident, thus no one we know caused it (yet?:heh: )

When Kyon made his first trip, it had already happened. So he didn't cause it.

[lftwgr]

No. The "big bang" was not able to be reached becaue no one could travel to that exact incident, thus no one we know caused it (yet?:heh: )

When Kyon made his first trip, it had already happened. So he didn't cause it.

It didn't happen at Tanabata (past)? I always thought it did. :confused:
Guess I'll have to go back and read the novels when I'm free...

[ellifeedn]

I don't really know for sure, but based on the baka tsuki translations (big thanks to all those who worked on the translations:bow:) I got the impression that Haruhi has a crush on John Smith in vol.4. Does anyone else get that impression as well?

[Samatarou]

The latest guest "Rant" on ANN's Answerman page (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2007-04-20) is an exposé of the supposed dreadful truth about the over-hyped lameness of Suzumiya Haruhi. The funny thing is, as you read the moans about the climax being in the middle of the series and the lame duck ending, it dawns on you that this guy dogmatically decided to watch the series in Haruhi order simply because it was chronologically correct...

[Zeytoo0]

The latest guest "Rant" on ANN's Answerman page (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2007-04-20) is an exposé of the supposed dreadful truth about the over-hyped lameness of Suzumiya Haruhi. The funny thing is, as you read the moans about the climax being in the middle of the series and the lame duck ending, it dawns on you that this guy dogmatically decided to watch the series in Haruhi order simply because it was chronologically correct...

Ahaha, lol, what a guy :P

You cant review shit if you haven't seen it (properly at least)

[cmage]

Ahaha, lol, what a guy :P

You cant review shit if you haven't seen it (properly at least)

I think he watched it both ways but chose that as a point to strengthen his argument. Obviously he doesn't get that it's parodying the character stereotypes, etc. :rolleyes:

[TigerII]

Personally, I thought the show was meh. The novels are much better.

[CrowKenobi]

Anime Insider magazine #44 (May/07 issue) has a couple of Haruhi-related articles in it:

The A.I. Five: Top 5 reasons you'll love The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya:(page 20)
The animation is spectacular
It's comedy gold
You'll join the cult
There's real strength of character
It's a true originalAnd the "Must See" box in the May DVD releases section (page 66).

:cool:

[quigonkenny]

It didn't happen at Tanabata (past)? I always thought it did. :confused:
Guess I'll have to go back and read the novels when I'm free...
The author has never come right out and stated what caused Haruhi's "awakening," and I imagine he won't do more than toss up a few hints here and there about it until the "big reveal" in the last or possibly the penultimate book.

That said, we can safely say that the events of Tanabata "three years ago" (four, now) were not the cause, at least not the Kyon-related events of that night. Mikuru (small) has stated unequivocably that it is impossible for her group to time travel back past the event, yet she was able to transport Kyon back to a time before the meeting of Haruhi and "John Smith." Granted, it was only an hour or two before, but before is before.

Now arguments against this are numerous, ranging from Mikuru lying to Kyon about the limits of her people's tech (intentionally or unintentionally) to causal reality itself being a "damned Haruhist plot to discredit the Godhood of Our Lord Almighty Kyon." But with the information given, my conclusions are logical.

Frankly, I don't think anyone in the book, including possibly the author himself, yet, knows the exact circumstances. But I do think a few people have an idea. Yuki, for one, has to be harboring some pretty good theories, better at least than the pop-theology pablum Itsuki's been feeding Kyon. And you just know Mikuru (big) knows way more than she's able (or willing) to let on. She has, after all, already seen the end of the story...theoretically...

[TigerII]

Yeah Big Mikuru knows hows it all ends, theoretically of course, and she just has to make sure it happens that way. We still don't know the age of either of the Mikurus so who knows how much older big is from.

[quigonkenny]

Yeah Big Mikuru knows hows it all ends, theoretically of course, and she just has to make sure it happens that way. We still don't know the age of either of the Mikurus so who knows how much older big is from.
Well, going by appearances in the series, which has enough of the author's involvement to be considered canon, I'd say she's less that 10 years older. Still, since we don't know how old Mikuru (small) is, that doesn't say too much. I'd guess Mikuru (small) is about 16, give or take a year or two, as of the beginning of Volume 9. That would make Mikuru (big) somewhere in her mid 20's, between 22 and 27, I'd guess. Of course, we don't know how far apart her various appearances are, or if they're even in chronological order.

[ibreatheanime]

Anime Insider magazine #44 (May/07 issue) has a couple of Haruhi-related articles in it:

The A.I. Five: Top 5 reasons you'll love The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya:(page 20)
The animation is spectacular
It's comedy gold
You'll join the cult
There's real strength of character
It's a true originalAnd the "Must See" box in the May DVD releases section (page 66).

:cool:

I agree that this series is amazing... after a few episodes I was giddy! I only get giddy if I really love a series.

[Zeytoo0]

1. The animation is spectacular
2. It's comedy gold
3. You'll join the cult
4. There's real strength of character
5. It's a true original

^ That pretty much sums up why I love it so much too :P

[CrowKenobi]

The May issue of Newtype USA has a two page spread about Haruhi... I'm wondering if they used any of the text from a similar spread in last year's Newtype:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5310/11456194580447kvgy1.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11456194580447kvgy1.jpg)

:cool:

[ibreatheanime]

Vol. 1 episodes 1-4 are released in the states in a few weeks. There is a limited edition that comes with the soundtrack, a haruhi~ism iron on, a cosplay ribion, and a double sided pencil board. ( all in a cool case)

[Zeytoo0]

According to this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Melancholy-Haruhi-Suzumiya-Vol-1/dp/B000NVT0PM/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/203-2276486-5131155?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1177898933&sr=8-1 it'll be out at the same time here in the UK, though im a bit sceptical about it. I want the special edition so ill be importing it if it doesnt come out in the UK, which they usually dont :(

[ellifeedn]

I have several things I want to say. I have been hearing how Haruhi likes Kyon and that it's the pairing that will come sooner or later, or something like that:confused:, and that Mikuru is an older Kyon's sister (forgive me if I misunderstood something). What I have to say to this I will put into the spoiler tab and I'm unsure if what I type will be spoilers (possible though).

First the Mikuru looking like Kyon's little sister stuff. There is the possibility that Mikuru is a desendent of his sister. I wonder how Kyon would respond to that idea.

Now the Haruhi likes Kyon stuff. I basically have three scenerios/theories.

1. Haruhi trully likes Kyon without an outside source guiding her decision.

2. Haruhi likes John Smith from BLR, as evidenced in vol.4, and she subconsiously likes Kyon for that reason.

3. The only reason why she's interested in Kyon is that out of all the boys that've talked to her, he's the only one who's never asked her out and once he does, she'll dump him and that'll be the end of all interest.

I know that I may have missed something and that I will get burned by a great many of you for #3. I only wish that you will remember that it's just a scenerio/theory I came up with.

[TigerII]

Not sure about the sister thing, and not really sure WHY she likes him. You actually stumped me.

[FatPianoBoy]

I have several things I want to say. I have been hearing how Haruhi likes Kyon and that it's the pairing that will come sooner or later, or something like that:confused:, and that Mikuru is an older Kyon's sister (forgive me if I misunderstood something). What I have to say to this I will put into the spoiler tab and I'm unsure if what I type will be spoilers (possible though).

First the Mikuru looking like Kyon's little sister stuff. There is the possibility that Mikuru is a desendent of his sister. I wonder how Kyon would respond to that idea.

Now the Haruhi likes Kyon stuff. I basically have three scenerios/theories.

1. Haruhi trully likes Kyon without an outside source guiding her decision.

2. Haruhi likes John Smith from BLR, as evidenced in vol.4, and she subconsiously likes Kyon for that reason.

3. The only reason why she's interested in Kyon is that out of all the boys that've talked to her, he's the only one who's never asked her out and once he does, she'll dump him and that'll be the end of all interest.

I know that I may have missed something and that I will get burned by a great many of you for #3. I only wish that you will remember that it's just a scenerio/theory I came up with.


Mikuru is not Kyon's sister. It's impossible and it doesn't make any sense even in the bizarre world of Haruhi. At most she could be a direct descendant of his sister (which would explain the alias), but his sister she is not. She seems to come from too distant a future; one with weird oceans, no boats, and a superior version of the internet.


1. Doubt it.

2. Likely how it all got started.

3. Probably why it's continued to grow.

[TigerII]

Actually, I think I gotta agree with fat. Doubt she liked him at first. He was just another boring boy. But after they began talking and she saw he was not interested in her, he grew on her. Not sure if he seems similar to John to her, but I think its just been over time she grew to like him.

[FatPianoBoy]

Not sure if he seems similar to John to her, but I think its just been over time she grew to like him.

The first words out of her mouth when he struck up a conversation with her were: "Haven't I seen you somewhere before?"

;)

[TigerII]

Heh, been awhile. Then its a combo of 2 and 3 I guess.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Heh, been awhile. Then its a combo of 2 and 3 I guess.

Don't forget, the one thing that prevents her from putting two and two together is that John Smith was suppose to be older than her, and would have since graduated from North High rather than be starting school in her class.

Haruhi's clever brain and hidden disbelief of the supernatural is working against her in that regard.;)

[ellifeedn]

After I thought of #2, I thought of more to it.

Perhaps the reason why she had that boyfriend reputation was because after she couldn't find him in North High, she readily accepted any boy who called her, thinking that maybe one of them was him, and after finding that the boy who called wasn't him, dumped him. The week long relationship was probably the boy making a date with her a week later, or something I dunno I don't recall the first novel entirely.

I may be going further than I should by thinking that maybe the reason why Haruhi was exploring around the school was because she wanted to find out more information about him and where he went after "graduating" the school.

I'm starting to think that I'm adding a great deal of fuel to fanfics here.

[Mirrinus]

[QUOTE=ellifeedn;928323]I may be going further than I should by thinking that maybe the reason why Haruhi was exploring around the school was because she wanted to find out more information about him and where he went after "graduating" the school.[QUOTE]

I thought that was more or less what novel 4 directly stated. Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.

[risingstar3110]

Not so relevant to what people are saying above but I 've just met another guy who actually stopped half way in chapter 1 of SHny because he found it "wierd", and he still haven't realised about the brilliant of this anime for last few months until i told him to go watch again . ^_^

Success to convert another guy to Haruhiism, i guess :P

[ellifeedn]

I thought that was more or less what novel 4 directly stated. Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.

In novel 4, Haruhi said she infiltrated North High to look for John. I'm saying that after that, she enrolled inorder to find out where he might've gone after "graduating."

[TigerII]

Well, I am gonna guess she will find out one day. Wonder what her reaction will be.

[ellifeedn]

Well I just have a few random things left that I want to post. If anyone has noticed, several of the short stories and novels are based around one of the several female characters in the story (hence why people have been describing Yuki-ccentric and Mikuru-ccentric seasons for the anime for some time). Now I read in a post or two somewhere that there ought to be a season centered around Itsuki and one for Kyon. I believe that there won't really be such seasons for several reasons.

1. It is unknown if the author plans for such short stories or novels to be centered on each of them.

2. Itsuki seems to be a behind the scenes sort of person and I think it would suit him more to be such.

3. Kyon is involved in everything, so there's no need for a whole season (or several episodes even) to be centered on him.

In my own opinion, I believe that some other characters might get their own season/episodes/short stories/novel. Those characters I think would be the girls from the group introduced in vol.9 and heck I think even Tsuruya might get some of the spotlight on her (this doesn't mean I'm a Tsuruyaist or whatever it is people call themselves). I don't know why I'm thinking this, but I vaguely remember something about Haruhi saying Moe is important, or something.

[TigerII]

Well anycase I wonder if since we finally hit a major story plot if this could be the end of the novels? End it with something major...

[X207]

Well anycase I wonder if since we finally hit a major story plot if this could be the end of the novels? End it with something major...


i think there are 2 novels minimum left- 10 to finish this conflict and #?? for haruhi and kyon to quit acting like theyre just freinds (and haruhi becomes a normal/stable person at same time)

[TigerII]

haruhi...normal...ahahaha. Maybe stable, not a normal person.

[X207]

haruhi...normal...ahahaha. Maybe stable, not a normal person.

true, normal would be hard for her to acheive

[Ascaloth]

true, normal would be hard for her to acheive

As if we ever want that to happen. :p

[ibreatheanime]

i think there are 2 novels minimum left- 10 to finish this conflict and #?? for haruhi and kyon to quit acting like theyre just freinds (and haruhi becomes a normal/stable person at same time)

why would we want haruhi to become a normal stable person??? I love her the way she is :D

[X207]

why would we want haruhi to become a normal stable person??? I love her the way she is :D

over time less closed spaces occured, she's oppened to ppl more and slightly more normal than b4 she met present time kyon in north high. i still think she'll still be eccentric though

[ibreatheanime]

I have to agree that here being a bit more stable, and not putting the world as we know it in danger daily is probally a good thing.

The entire series was eccentric of course and didn't really have a "happy ending" or much of an ending at all. I have heard rumors of season two coming in fall of 2007, but has this been confirmed?

[FatPianoBoy]

I have heard rumors of season two coming in fall of 2007, but has this been confirmed?

No, it isn't.

[Zeytoo0]

No, it isn't.

But not all that unlikely ;) We'll see as it gets closer to the rumored date.

[ibreatheanime]

Well, if they do decide to release a second season, do you think they will play the episodes in a mixed up order again? (I dont really think so...been there done that)

[X207]

Well, if they do decide to release a second season, do you think they will play the episodes in a mixed up order again? (I dont really think so...been there done that)

but if they dont jumble it up then it would go like any other anime. the mixed order is unique to the series, why would they suddenly change it?

[Samatarou]

I think the mixed up order was only needed so that they could make the series end at the end of the first novel. Basically it was a way of stirring some short stories from later novels into the mix without the second half of the series being a disjointed set of short stories ending in anticlimax. The only reason to do another mixed up series would be if the mix of material demands it once again.
Apart from giving them a strong ending, the only benefit of the weird episode order was that it let us get to know the characters better before the story reached its climax. But in a second series we would already know the characters so no benefit in doing that anymore.

I think the real hallmark of Haruhi is not the ordering but the crazy girl / sardonic narrator chemistry.

[ibreatheanime]

Without haruhi's behavior the series would be nothing out of the ordinary. However her confidence,and cruelness as she orders around the members of the S.O.S. Birgade is what makes the show so hillarous, not the ordering.

Samatarou, I see your point about making the order mixed up so they could end at the first novel. however I think they switched the order just to stand out, and get people talking...It worked

[dkellis]

Without haruhi's behavior the series would be nothing out of the ordinary. However her confidence,and cruelness as she orders around the members of the S.O.S. Birgade is what makes the show so hillarous, not the ordering.

It's a mix. A lot of the humour comes from both the absurd situations Haruhi places the SOS Brigade in, as well as Kyon's reactions to them. (This works in many cases, even in Real Life; it's amazing how easily one can make other people laugh simply by pointing out the weird stuff that happens every day.)

Would it be "out of the ordinary"? Who knows. I like to believe that the reason it's so popular is because the series struck a chord with enough people in the right way, or at least right enough, for us to consider it worth being a fan of. As for why, well, you may as well ask why World of Warcraft is so popular; the answer will vary from person to person.

I know I've met one person who didn't want to watch the show because he believed that it was nothing more than a gimmick pretending to be philosophical, entirely because of the odd episode ordering. Basically, he thought it was trying to copy the film Memento. I explained to him that the episode ordering did not matter one bit to the overall story. Also, I pointed out a review somewhere which criticized the show for ending with a whimper, based on the chronological ordering. So the episode ordering both helps and harms the show's reputation.

[PastPrime]

I have been pondering something. When Haruhi first brought Mikuru to the clubroom she recognized Yuki. It seems likely to me that, given how little information she was given, she was not briefed on Yuki or any of the other SOS Brigade members. And she did not have any special powers that would allow her to know that Yuki was a humanoid interface. That would leave two possibilities, which could both be correct. In Mikuru' time Yuki could be a famous historical figure that all school children would recognise, like Lincoln in the USA. Or she was an ancestor that Mikuru learned about.
Given that in Mikuru's time the internet connection is in the brain, that sounds like something that Yuki could have come up with. Everyone connected like the members of the two Entities, but, unlike them, still individuals. And I could see her, once there is no longer a need to observe Haruhi, leading a revolt of the Humanoid Interfaces who like being individuals and do not want to return to their respective entities. Probably with Haruhi's assistance.

[Ascaloth]

I have been pondering something. When Haruhi first brought Mikuru to the clubroom she recognized Yuki. It seems likely to me that, given how little information she was given, she was not briefed on Yuki or any of the other SOS Brigade members. And she did not have any special powers that would allow her to know that Yuki was a humanoid interface. That would leave two possibilities, which could both be correct. In Mikuru' time Yuki could be a famous historical figure that all school children would recognise, like Lincoln in the USA. Or she was an ancestor that Mikuru learned about.
Given that in Mikuru's time the internet connection is in the brain, that sounds like something that Yuki could have come up with. Everyone connected like the members of the two Entities, but, unlike them, still individuals. And I could see her, once there is no longer a need to observe Haruhi, leading a revolt of the Humanoid Interfaces who like being individuals and do not want to return to their respective entities. Probably with Haruhi's assistance.

Or maybe, unseen to everyone else, she used the Internet in her brain to access Wikipedia, therefore dredging up all the info she would ever need on Yuki. :D

[Samatarou]

I have been pondering something. When Haruhi first brought Mikuru to the clubroom she recognized Yuki.
My assumption was that in the future the existence of such aliens was known about, and Mikuru therefore knew how to spot one, whereas in the present time people wouldn't be aware of their identifying characteristics, the existence of such entities being unknown. Yuki does behave rather oddly, but to a person who only expects to encounter humans, she would simply be taken for a rather weird human.

[PastPrime]

My assumption was that in the future the existence of such aliens was known about, and Mikuru therefore knew how to spot one, whereas in the present time people wouldn't be aware of their identifying characteristics, the existence of such entities being unknown. Yuki does behave rather oddly, but to a person who only expects to encounter humans, she would simply be taken for a rather weird human.

But some of the other aliens act very human. Besides, she just saw Yuki. She would hardly have had time to see how she acted and make a decision. She would have had to know about Yuki already.

[Samatarou]

Thinking about it some more, Miyuki would probably indeed have already been aware of Yuki, since Haruhi has been under observation by both camps for 3 years. Her surprise I think was that Yuki had apparently become involved with Haruhi, so Miyuki probably felt she must do the same. Bear in mind that this is why Koizumi turned up - because his organisation became aware that Yuki and Mikuru had become involved with Haruhi, so they too felt obliged to check out what was going on.

[FatPianoBoy]

Thinking about it some more, Mikuru would probably indeed have already been aware of Yuki, since Haruhi has been under observation by both camps for 3 years. Her surprise I think was that Yuki had apparently become involved with Haruhi, so Mikuru probably felt she must do the same. Bear in mind that this is why Koizumi turned up - because his organisation became aware that Yuki and Mikuru had become involved with Haruhi, so they too felt obliged to check out what was going on.

Seconded, and fixed.

[PastPrime]

Thinking about it some more, Miyuki would probably indeed have already been aware of Yuki, since Haruhi has been under observation by both camps for 3 years. Her surprise I think was that Yuki had apparently become involved with Haruhi, so Miyuki probably felt she must do the same. Bear in mind that this is why Koizumi turned up - because his organisation became aware that Yuki and Mikuru had become involved with Haruhi, so they too felt obliged to check out what was going on.

I never said that Mikuru’s superiors did not know about Yuki. They knew everything that was going to happen to Mikuru. But they always give her the least information that they can. They have told Kyon much more than they have Mikuru. Given that, other than Haruhi, she knows less about what is going than any of the other Brigade members, I think that is quite possible that she was not briefed about Yuki. And I am not too sure how much Haruhi was observed before she started to High School. It seems like that is where the observing started. After all, Yuki was in standby mode, dressed in a North High uniform, waiting for Haruhi to start High School.

[dkellis]

We've gotten fairly clear indications that Mikuru is able to communicate with her superiors through time (and in fact, when she fails to do so, it comes as a huge shock). If Mikuru was not briefed on Yuki beforehand, and if she did not already have access to the information about Yuki, then I would guess that at the moment she saw Yuki, just enough information about Yuki was released to her, in order for the "pre-determined event" to come to pass.

Basically, I imagine that when Mikuru saw Yuki, she was suddenly authorized to know that Yuki is from the alien faction, and that she was sent to observe Haruhi... but not that Yuki's presence here was due to Haruhi's fortuitous machinations, rather than Yuki actively seeking out Haruhi. (In short, she was not authorized to know that Yuki was still technically a member of the Literature Club, rather than the SOS Brigade.) After all, it was that particular set of information which led to Mikuru deciding to join the SOS Brigade, of (seemingly) her own will. (So to speak.)

[PastPrime]

I see that this forum now has more posts than Shuffle.

[Zeytoo0]

I see that this forum now has more posts than Shuffle.

Clearly because haruhi is awesome :P

[TigerII]

Haruhi does have some awsomeness around it.

[7thFonon]

How is this show popular, it is so random.

[Skane]

How is this show popular, it is so random.
There is a method to its madness.

Cheers.

[TigerII]

If they went in chronological order, the grand finale would not have been as omgwtf!

[npal]

But it would have been a better one nonetheless.

[Ascaloth]

But it would have been a better one nonetheless.

Textbook example of subjective opinion.

I rest my case.

[Sorrow-K]

Opinions are subjective by their very nature, so they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand because of that.

I defend the unchronological episode ordering, but I thought the last airing ep wasn't the most fitting way for the series to end. I thought the final chronological ep was a far better commentary on Haruhi and Kyon's relationship, which, IMO, was one of the most central and interesting things in the series. It is, in the end, though, a very minor complaint, but it's one of those things that people are probably never going to all agree on.

[Ascaloth]

Opinions are subjective by their very nature, so they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand because of that.


You speak truth, but my stand is that when there's an attempt to portray such an opinion as inalienable fact, such an attempt has to be called out as a product of fallacy, no exceptions.

Personally, I have no complaints about the unchronological episode order, or the choice of last broadcast episode. After all, I've always viewed SHnY as probably the Japanese idea of a postmodernist work; it's always meant to be subversive in nature, unchronological broadcast order being only one aspect of such. Besides, it's not like it's impossible to watch it in chronological order if one so desires; in fact, the previews, taken as a whole, almost encourages the viewer to take this approach on a second viewing. In computer game lingo, it has "high replayability". ;)

[DragoonKain3]

I'm still impressed by the popularity of Haruhi. While there weren't as much cosplayers of Haruhi as say, Lenalee of DGrayman or Misa of Death Note, there were still quite a few of them over at Anime North.

And the dance... wow. Me and my bro lined up 40 mins before the show, and there was a line already. Room (more like auditorium) was almost packed full in the end just for the dance off.

Best one of them? IMO, an evangelion SoS brigade. Asuka as Haruhi and Rei as Yuki (who never ever smiled once till the every end) was fitting to say the least, gay love between Shinji and Kaoru as Kyon and Itsuki, and Misato as Mikuru were all in character. Just too bad that another group won because they 'inserted' another song in the middle of the dance, complete with dance moves. Sure the group mentioned above danced better, but eva was so awesome in costume, personality, and stage presence that IMO they should've won.

Sadly, almost next to none stayed to watch the dubbed versions of eps0 and 1. But then again, I think anyone who stayed for the dance contest would've been otaku enough to buy Haruhi this weekend. I mean, considering its a few days early(can get at 25th when its officially released on 29th), great price ($60 Can for deluxe, no tax in one store IIRC), AND can get it signed by 4 out of the 5 english dubbers, I would've done so as well but I already got my preorder done through amazon, and I had a lot of other things to spend my cash on. >_>

As for the dub itself, Mikuru stole the show for me. Kyon's sarcasm needed a bit more bite, and Haruhi was missing umm... how do I put it? Her edge? Maybe it'll get better once I hear it on my TV, or learn to get used to this other take on the Haruhi cast.

[CrowKenobi]

The July, 2007 issue of Newtype USA has a familiar picture on the cover:http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5138/1158343456397gd7xq2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1158343456397gd7xq2.jpg) Plus one of the articles is (I think) a translation of this one:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7919/soscollage6fphg0.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soscollage6fphg0.jpg)

:cool:

[Aleven]

The best singing English dub voice actress I have heard with FUNimation - known for dubbing many anime songs - is Daphne Gere. Among other things, she sings the English dub version of the ending theme song for FUNimation's release of Blue Gender.

Many English dub fans had wrongly attributed the English dubbed singing of the Blue Gender opening and ending theme songs to Laura Bailey, (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1389) the English voice actor for Marlene Angel in Blue Gender.
This may seem off-topic to this thread, but has anyone got a clue who sings the english opening theme of Blue Gender?
Daphne Gere from Fruits basket sings the ending theme as has been quoted above.

[Woland]

Second season announced!

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1026998&postcount=1686

[Julius Firefocht]

The God-Empress' name be praised! Her return is at hand!

I find it funny that Konata is one of those whopping over the news. :)

[Scep]

Sweet news :) SHnY is back! Konata whooping for joy seems random >.> tho i expected no less from a anime otaku like her.

[xris]

Created new thread for The Second Season of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=50432) discussion.

Please continue the disucssion there :)

[OMG_Zerg_Rush]

Just found this on the australian Haruhi website http://www.madman.com.au/sosbrigade/

For now we want to pre-announce that we will be holding a national "Hare Hare Yukai" Dance contest!
it shoud be interesting.....

[GyroidFanatic]

Wow... that's... definitely different from the US site...

[HashiriyaR32]

Even the Aussies have been bit by the Haruhi bug.

[CrowKenobi]

The August, 2007 issue of Newtype USA features (I think) a translation of this article from the Japanese Newtype magazine:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6638/haruhibaseballepofficiagg4.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haruhibaseballepofficiagg4.jpg)

Plus the Newtype Japan reader's poll of popular Anime, male & female characters (at least a month or two old) features TMoHS as #2 anime (Code Geass #1); Kyon #3 male character (Kira Yamato #2, LeLouch #1); and Haruhi #2 female character (CC #1)

:cool:

Plus the DVD has the first episode of AIR TV on it! ;)

[OMG_Zerg_Rush]

http://www.madman.com.au/actions/news.do?method=view&newsId=944
I agree "YOU ARE SO BAD"

[DEATH_NOTE]

i hope the novels get released in english

(are they released in english anywhere? like britain or austrailia?)

[Raykun]

nope their aren't released in english yet theres a translation site for it

and can i request anywhere to find the manga version?

[Sepirts]

So General Discussion eh? Well yes I'd be very interested in buying all the manga and light novels. Does anyone know where I can import, or buy them locally in north america?

[Raykun]

well yesasia has the novels dunno bit manga

[Haohmaru]

Anyone know what this means?
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/472/ayamarise1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It has a date too, 6/26

[HurricaneHige]

I think it says the newest volume of Suzumiya is delayed till 6/26

[cyth]

Please, don't post such speculative guesses if you don't know Japanese. The big title says "Comics sale on 06/26". I can only guess this is a very old image.

[giapet]

Please, don't post such speculative guesses if you don't know Japanese. The big title says "Comics sale on 06/26". I can only guess this is a very old image.

Considering that the most recent Suzumiya Haruhi novel's release *was* delayed from April to June, I think that was pretty reasonable speculation. And, as it turns out, the headline on the right DOES, in fact, say that "Suzumiya Haruhi no Kyougaku Release Postponement Announcement." (Suzumiya Haruhi no Kyougaku, or "The Fright of Haruhi Suzumiya," is the title of the 10th Haruhi novel.)

That said, this is obviously the wrong thread for the discussion . ;)

[AVPlaya]

Otagei is a series of synchronized movements and gestures performed by the Wotas (otaku fanboys of idol groups like Morning Musume) while their idol perform on stage. You can read this blog post (http://bangin.wordpress.com/2007/08/26/%e3%83%b2%e3%82%bf%e8%8a%b8otagei/) for more detailed info on Otagei.

Here's some youtube videos which offered some funny take at this phenomenom. You'll get to learn about exciting moves like OAD (Over-Action Dolphin), PPPH, and ROMANCE. So after reading about it and watching the video demo of Otagei, you might some some of the moves familiar; there's a reason for it.

Two video clips of "Otageibu", demonstrating the most popular Ota-gei moves:
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There are even girl otageishi in this last one. Amazing.

Based on this blog post (http://bangin.wordpress.com/2007/08/26/%e3%83%b2%e3%82%bf%e8%8a%b8otagei/#comments) comment discussion I've had with a very knowledgeable J-ota, we've discovered that some part of the Hare Hare Yukai Dance full version is based on ota-gei. I'm going to list the ones we've found, and see if you can help discover more. I think everyone should know about the Dance's great Ota-gei heritage. :)

The ota-gei found in the Hare Hare Yukai Full version dance are listed below:

0:13 - Yuki and Mikuru started to perform the otagei "８の字" (Hachi no Ji, figure 8) in the back

0:53 - Haruhi, Yuki, and Mikuru started to perform the otagei "クロール" (crawl).

Ending - Yuki, Mikuru, Kyon, and Itsuki all performed otagei "ケチャ" (Kecha) toward Haruhi; in the original Kecha the hand is extended toward the singer, so it works that they would do it toward Haruhi, the ruler and lord.

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So this goes to show that KyoAni is very knowledgeable in all parts of otaku-dom, and I guess that's one of the reason for it's incredible popularity among otakus. The "otageishi" (otagei performers) would automatically adopt it as their own, for it's the first time a dance featured their fanboy moves.

[Ronin Aquila]

For a more light-hearted topic, let's talk about the cosplay of Manifest 2007 shall we?

"Hey, My Name is Big Boss, AKA Naked Snake from Metal Gear Solid. Anybody seen a young lady called Suzumiya Haruhi?"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/RoninAquila/DSC02358a.jpg

Ah, there she is, and what a looker!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/RoninAquila/Manifest2007Sunday018.jpg

WHOA I must have drunk far too much last night, cos now I am seeing DOUBLES!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/RoninAquila/Manifest2007Sunday017.jpg

[AVPlaya]

That second Haruhi... I believe is the definition of Itai-Reiya (http://bangin.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/%e3%83%80%e3%83%b3%e3%83%91dampa/)...

[Ronin Aquila]

Oh, by the way, the second Haruhi was me :p

And now more of the looker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/RoninAquila/Picture126.jpg

Oh and what the hey, me too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/RoninAquila/HaruhiDL1.jpg

[DeshoDesho]

1.great Haruhi *Saves*
2.that a crossdresser? WTF

[Ronin Aquila]

2.that a crossdresser? WTF

Yeah, that's me. ;)

And for a video of me doing the Hare-Hare Yukai dance, click below:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0AdYCJ19KIU

Enjoy!! :D

[Kittie Rose]

I'm wondering; Haruhi's famous "head-dress" is basically two thick ribbons pulled tight around her head(giving the "appearance" of a hair band on top because it's flat and wide but it's not really) and tied as shoe laces at either side?

I'm setting up an SOS Brigade here, and as the Chief, I really need something to say that fact. The wrist band would be a bit tacky in real life...

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I'm wondering; Haruhi's famous "head-dress" is basically two thick ribbons pulled tight around her head(giving the "appearance" of a hair band on top because it's flat and wide but it's not really) and tied as shoe laces at either side?

I'm setting up an SOS Brigade here, and as the Chief, I really need something to say that fact. The wrist band would be a bit tacky in real life...

Actually, from official art it was found that the Ribbins are attached to a plastic headband, like the one below: (it's called an "Alice" headband)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Headband.PNG/180px-Headband.PNG

And here is a link to a commercial version of Haruhi Headband, with the "Alice" built-in.
http://www.myimportstore.com/store/images/Anime/HaruhiHeadband.jpg

The headband version supplied by the USA Haruhi DVD is different, because of either cost or difficulty in fitting it in the box.

[VicViper_Mk2]

i have a question regarding the name of the series. Why do they call it "the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" i didn't know what melancholy means so i looked it up in the dictionary. It means depression, or mood disorder. So what exactly is this suppose to mean?

Second, why is this series so popular? I can think of several possible reasons

1. because the female casts are pretty

2. fascinated by the fact that a high school student is practically a god yet oblivious to the fact

3. the semi sci-fi setting, lots of techno mumbo.

4. all of the above

please correct or add anything i might have missed. much appreciated.

[Marina]

i have a question regarding the name of the series. Why do they call it "the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" i didn't know what melancholy means so i looked it up in the dictionary. It means depression, or mood disorder. So what exactly is this suppose to mean?

Second, why is this series so popular? I can think of several possible reasons

1. because the female casts are pretty

2. fascinated by the fact that a high school student is practically a god yet oblivious to the fact

3. the semi sci-fi setting, lots of techno mumbo.

4. all of the above

please correct or add anything i might have missed. much appreciated.

Well, let's see......HM!
Why Melancholy? If you've actually watched it, you'll notice that the crazy girl has some serious mood jumps, not to mention the fact that the whole world better watch out whenever she gets bored or upset. I actually like the American title quite a bit.

And it's hard to judge why any particular show becomes popular, but with this one, I'm not surprised at all. It's different. So yes, you've named off several possible reasons, but there are plenty other explanations for why the show has hit it so big.

[Silasj]

Regarding why it's popular, I can't really come up with a word for it. I just instantly loved it, the energy, just the Haruhi character, after seeing a few episodes you just love it, indescribeable :P

[FatPianoBoy]

It's got a whole lot of something most other anime doesn't have: a big heart that's still grounded somewhere in reality.

[~ Lawliet ~]

I've watched it in both the order it was aired, as well as chronological order. Nagato Yuki is full of pure and epic win.

[ClaFanN1]

If anime serties could be arrested for being too horrible, this sure would be the first one to be busted :D

[FateAnomaly]

i have a question regarding the name of the series. Why do they call it "the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" i didn't know what melancholy means so i looked it up in the dictionary. It means depression, or mood disorder. So what exactly is this suppose to mean?

Second, why is this series so popular? I can think of several possible reasons

1. because the female casts are pretty

2. fascinated by the fact that a high school student is practically a god yet oblivious to the fact

3. the semi sci-fi setting, lots of techno mumbo.

4. all of the above

please correct or add anything i might have missed. much appreciated.

Cos Haruhi wills it to be so.:D

[OceanBlue]

If anime serties could be arrested for being too horrible, this sure would be the first one to be busted :D

Is that an insult to this anime?
I understand that people have their own opinions and tMoHS might not appeal to everyone, but I'd like it if, if you came back, to say why you didn't like it.

Must not flame... must not flame....

[ClockWorkAngel]

You spelled series wrong tempo :/

I believe the Haruhi series is so popular because of the characters, and the concept of the story. The series has unique characters with back story (this is very true for Haruhi herself) and character development. There is a balance in the story whether or not the current book or episode you are reading/watching is (or based off) one of the shorter stories or in itself a complete "arc" of the series. I just liked it because it was fun, and fun for all the right reasons.

[symbiotes_021]

Just watch the series and man, I couldnt get enough of it. The characters and storyline is real unique.

Watch untileps 10 till yesterday.

[Sol Falling]

Somehow (lol no actually I know exactly how) I am probably looking down on other fans of Haruhi Suzumiya, 'cause...

I think the initial hook of the series is the very relatable premise: the real world is boring, fiction is more fun--why don't we try to live out fiction? I don't think anybody's completely immune to the feeling of what we go through everyday being boring or pointless--that the main character of the show seems to be doing something about this catches our attention.

What the show is actually about, though, is learning to find the real world interesting, not being obsessed with fiction. It's about seeing what's in front of you. It's not about being angry or bitter at the world for being boring and acting like it owes you something.

Unfortunately though, what many fans get from the story is only the hook. "Here is somebody who thinks normal things are boring and worthless! I do too--I like her, and will treat her as a static template for myself in this story." The don't follow Haruhi's development into somebody who moves away from this attitude. Instead, they just latch onto Haruhi as a figurehead so they can justify and whine to themselves that they shouldn't have to be exposed to all those "worthless" things.

It's ironic. The series' message deals with overcoming ADHD, but the audience is often too ADHD to pay enough attention to get the message. "I can't wait to see what crazy hijinks Haruhi thinks up next!" Ugh...

I just really can't reconcile the fact that so many people prefer the final episode in airing order as opposed to chronological without the feeling that so many people missed the point completely. It might be popular, but popularity doesn't really mean anything.

[relentlessflame]

What the show is actually about, though, is learning to find the real world interesting, not being obsessed with fiction. It's about seeing what's in front of you. It's not about being angry or bitter at the world for being boring and acting like it owes you something. [...] It's ironic. The series' message deals with overcoming ADHD, but the audience is often too ADHD to pay enough attention to get the message.Interesting conclusion on both the show's theme and its fans. Not sure that I totally agree, though. You suggest that a lot of fans find themselves identifying with Haruhi's boredom/"melancholy", and so miss the development that shows her growing to appreciate the "real world". But, actually, I might suggest that there's another way of looking at the show, and that'd be identifying with Kyon. It's still very much about "learning to find the real world interesting", but in a totally different way. Kyon is very bitter and sarcastic -- the grown-up who put away childish things long ago, and had come to accept the "real world" as being plainly uninteresting and boring (sort of "that's just the way it is"). However, over the course of the show, Haruhi adds a great deal of colour to his life; he finds himself falling in love with her eccentric, off-beat way of looking at the world and getting drawn into her latest adventures. The two points of view and perspectives complement each other perfectly. So at least from an anime perspective (I haven't read the novels yet), I'd say the show is aiming to achieve an equilibrium between Haruhi and Kyon -- they're going to find a way of appreciating "the real world" through each other. And in terms of the audience (who, at least in Japanese society, are probably more "Kyons" than "Haruhis"), there's not necessarily any harm in finding themselves wishing they could add a bit of colour to their own lives (and thus wanting to see whatever Haruhi comes up with next).

In terms of whether the fans "get the point", or not, though... well, who knows. There are different levels of appreciation/realization about these sorts of things. For some, it may be only a subtle undercurrent that they can't put their finger on, but contributes to their appreciation for the material. Although the chronological viewing does make more sense in light of the show's overall theme, the achronological order had advantages in terms of suspense, drama and mystery that made for interesting discussions at the time. So there are probably good reasons to appreciate both (and the producers of the show seem to agree).

[Sol Falling]

mm, I've had this discussion before. Yes, Kyon is also a character we can identify with, and is also a character who develops. I wouldn't necessarily say that his growth is learning to enjoy and accept Haruhi's antics, though. At least, not those whose aims are anti-social and unrealistic. I'll clarify what I mean by the show's "message", then.

Haruhi thinks "the world is boring, so I'll do something about it." Kyon thinks "the world is boring, but there's nothing anybody can do about it." What the novels are saying, and what the anime will eventually more clearly say (I dunno? I'd prefer season two to be achronological too, but the anime really has no substance without the character development) is that "people make the world interesting." As in, "doing stuff with friends is fun!" That's about it. If you think/look a bit carefully, neither Kyon nor Haruhi really have any friends when they meet (like, good friends. Significant people. I don't think Kyon could have cared less whether or not he knew Taniguchi/Kunikida--until Haruhi almost remade the world, at least ;) ).

So my protest was, whether or not the SOS Brigade is engaged in wacky hijinks or just on a picnic in the mountains doesn't matter--as long as they do it together. Both the novels and anime are very funny--but watching the show just for the laughs is misled.

As for the merits of chronological versus aired order, I made some points in the thread discussing that. Basically, I think that the aired order is only worth watching for the first run (unless you're introducing the series to friends and are watching it with them, or something). Chronologically, though, the show is endlessly rewatchable. Well, I've done it 5 times, at least.

[Sepirts]

I used to try to watch the series in some order after I finished it the first time. (aired, then chronological, then ep 1 then chrono) but then, I started making up my own orders, then I just watch the series all the time. Yeah I'm pretty crazy.

[Dxon]

I have to say. The serie is very confusing with all those different orders...
This anime made think about life.. (wow.. First anime to do that with me.. :twitch: ) I also think it would be fun to have aliens, time travellers and espers.. But I know they just dont exist. That makes me sad. Since I want to snap out of this boring life. Always the same. Different thing happening is going up classes in school getting a job and stuff. But same thing is the daily routine on a normal day (The days that happen the most)
- waking up
- breakfast
- go to work/school
- get back home
- do homework/fun time
- dinner
- do homework/fun time
- sleep

Then it comes back at the top. BORING!!!
Hellooooooohoooo!!! ALIENS OUT THERE!!! (if you are there...) COME OUT TO MAKE LIFE INTERESTING SUCKA's!!!! :D

[mikoo]

:twitch:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8610/2222ep2.jpg

Haruhi is now the official mascot character of the Beijing Olympics. Kind of.
It looks like a text book that teaches primary school children all about the Olympics.
http://www.dannychoo.com/fauna_detail/eng/1158/Olympic+Haruhi/

:uhoh: :uhoh:

[Twisted Reality]

:twitch:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8610/2222ep2.jpg


http://www.dannychoo.com/fauna_detail/eng/1158/Olympic+Haruhi/

:uhoh: :uhoh:


China. Land of the Rising Bootleg.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

THose stripes on Haruhi's uniform don't really seem to fit with the rest of the uniform.

[Triple_R]

i have a question regarding the name of the series. Why do they call it "the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" i didn't know what melancholy means so i looked it up in the dictionary. It means depression, or mood disorder. So what exactly is this suppose to mean?

Second, why is this series so popular? I can think of several possible reasons

1. because the female casts are pretty

2. fascinated by the fact that a high school student is practically a god yet oblivious to the fact

3. the semi sci-fi setting, lots of techno mumbo.

4. all of the above

please correct or add anything i might have missed. much appreciated.

The main protagonist is very dynamic, generally excited and cheerful, very take-charge, quite humourous at times, has explosive mood swings, and is domineering in a cool way.

In anime, it's usually only one or more of the top antagonists that gets to enjoy being such a character. ;)

It's rather refreshing to see these qualities in the main protagonist in an anime show. Particularly when that main protagonist is female (you could make an argument that Goku, Monkey D. Luffy, and a few other anime main protagonists are a bit similiar to Haruhi in the ways that I mentioned, but Haruhi really stands alone as a main female protagonist that's like this).

The title "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" does seem a bit odd to me given how Haruhi's character develops, but it's certainly true that she's melancholic before the SOS Brigade really gets into gear. After it, though, she's one of the more cheerful anime main protagonists around.

[Kaisos Erranon]

The title was the title for the first book that the main story in the anime is based off of.

Later books follow the formula of "The [Random Word] of Haruhi Suzumiya".

[Nagato]

Not sure where should post this; or it's been posted?
anyway, for you who can read Japanese and have niconico account, while waiting for SHnY second season you can enjoy the SHnY gaiden, English dub version with Japanese subtitles (the gaiden story). Though lot of explicit words, it's really funny and I think the story is quite well written.

I wonder if someone will make the English version of it with Japanese audio, of course.

OK, here's the links
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2069673 ← SHnY I
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2161712 ← SHnY II

[Triple_R]

The title was the title for the first book that the main story in the anime is based off of.

Later books follow the formula of "The [Random Word] of Haruhi Suzumiya".

Oh, yeah? Thanks for the info!

I haven't read any of the novels at all, so it's cool to know this now. It does explain the title of the anime a bit better.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Oh, yeah? Thanks for the info!

I haven't read any of the novels at all, so it's cool to know this now. It does explain the title of the anime a bit better.

Novels are here (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Suzumiya_Haruhi#The_Suzumiya_Haruh i_series.2C_by_Tanigawa_Nagaru).

[kapoola]

Hey, you should check out this amv.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jvzJi3ENlbM

[Ketro]

Does anybody know if The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi Vol4 Limited Edition came out in the U.S. (or even in Japan)?

[ganbaru]

The 4 volume of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya came out in north-america, in regular and limited edition.

[Ketro]

Oo, then I gotta find it then, thanks :D

[dantechild]

way theres only 14 ep of haruhi they could do much more of them

[Kaisos Erranon]

way theres only 14 ep of haruhi they could do much more of them

Because Kyoto Animation are made of morons.

In reality, it's because they didn't have the time or money to keep animating it, though this has changed as they have become more mainstream and popular.

And there are more episodes coming out, probably in July or October this year.

[Ketro]

Well, they didnt exactly state the date of the second season, but yeah, July-October is a good guess.

[CrowKenobi]

Because Kyoto Animation are made of morons.

In reality, it's because they didn't have the time or money to keep animating it, though this has changed as they have become more mainstream and popular.

And there are more episodes coming out, probably in July or October this year.I would think that since Haruhi was scheduled to be a 14 part series, running out of time or money didn't factor into it. :eyebrow:

And season 2 (at this point) is anybody's guess. :D

:cool:

[Kaisos Erranon]

I would think that since Haruhi was scheduled to be a 14 part series, running out of time or money didn't factor into it. :eyebrow:

And season 2 (at this point) is anybody's guess. :D

:cool:

Season two is confirmed. Just not a release date.

I realize that Haruhi was scheduled for a 14 episode series, but because KyoAni couldn't afford to make it longer.

[CrowKenobi]

I realize that Haruhi was scheduled for a 14 episode series, but because KyoAni couldn't afford to make it longer.No, the programming block was for a 14 episode series which KyoAni produced. No more, no less. :)

:cool:

[Kaisos Erranon]

No, the programming block was for a 14 episode series which KyoAni produced. No more, no less. :)

:cool:

No, I phrased that wrong. At the time, KyoAni didn't have enough money to produce longer series while keeping the same quality. (I think.) Up until Kanon 06, all their shows were half-season.

[CrowKenobi]

No, I phrased that wrong. At the time, KyoAni didn't have enough money to produce longer series while keeping the same quality. (I think.) Up until Kanon 06, all their shows were half-season.I'll give you that. :D

Though, I'm thinking it's the quality issue more than money, and K2K6 laid the groundwork for their foray into 2-cour series. :nod:

:cool:

[Aebliss]

I have a question that I hope someone can answer. At the end of the second episode revolving around the island murder mystery, when they're riding the ferry back to the mainland, Itsuki is staring very intently at what turns out to be a hairy mole on Kyon's neck. What was up with that? Just Itsuki 'drinking in the sights', or was it meant to be something more sinister? I almost thought it was some kind of mark on Kyon ... ^^;

[Kaisos Erranon]

I have a question that I hope someone can answer. At the end of the second episode revolving around the island murder mystery, when they're riding the ferry back to the mainland, Itsuki is staring very intently at what turns out to be a hairy mole on Kyon's neck. What was up with that? Just Itsuki 'drinking in the sights', or was it meant to be something more sinister? I almost thought it was some kind of mark on Kyon ... ^^;

It's not in the novel, so it doesn't matter.

I just think it was KyoAni mindfucking us, really.

[seaghyn16]

It's taken me this long...but I think I'm finally getting addicted to Haruhi-ism...just a little bit....maybe....

I just found out...JUST found out, that the anime really is just Volume 1 of the series...hahaha! and that there were a couple episodes of other stuff, (festival and the like).

It was only Volume 1!!! (and I just finished B-T's translation of it)....hahaha....that means theres more???

Theres MORE??? I can actually read more than what I thought was there before...

hahaha! (I seriously thought the 13 anime episodes were it....then I started reading, just like the first paragraph, and was like, "Okay, so the rest is obviously spread throughout 9 volumes, cool. I'll read it sometime.)

Now I'm actually reading it, and I'm like..dang...there's more...why didn't I figure this out sooner??

[Samatarou]

I just found out...JUST found out, that the anime really is just Volume 1 of the series...hahaha! and that there were a couple episodes of other stuff, (festival and the like)
It's a bit more than that: Vol 1 makes up 6 episodes (roughly 1 ep per chapter), the other 8 are bits from other volumes. Note that the Vol.1 story was broadcast in correct chronological sequence (being eps. 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14) whilst the interleaving eps tend to jump all over the place, chronologically speaking.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Well... the two parts of Lone Island Syndrome were broadcast in chronological order... of course, it really wouldn't have worked if the setup for the murder mystery was aired after it :heh:

[CinemaZebra]

Well... the two parts of Lone Island Syndrome were broadcast in chronological order... of course, it really wouldn't have worked if the setup for the murder mystery was aired after it :heh:

lol yes that would be weird

[Jonbob0008]

It's generally accepted by many people who follow the series that Kyon subconsciously likes Haruhi and is in denial of it. I wasn't terribly sure if this was true until I finished reading volumn 9. There were a few sentences in there that rung powerfully about his feelings for her.

However, after assuring myself that he does in fact have feelings for her, I began to ask myself "why is he in denial of it?" Most people don't deny to themselves about their feelings for someone.

I have my own theory as to why he is in denial, but I would like to ask what your opinions on what you think is the reason he's in denial first. I don't want my first post here to be a wall of text :heh:.

Thank you

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

They're both more or less in denial of their feelings for each other. We just get it from Kyon more due to him being the main character/narrator.

[Hedd]

Haruhi isn't in denial, she knows she has feelings. They just frustrate her as Kyon isn't as responsive as she'd like.

Kyon has to on some level know that Haruhi is into him if, for nothing else, how the first book ended (or the anime ended as well). Ultimately the reason he probably doesn't catch the signs I think it just due to your typical anime male social ignorance.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I actually meant a "He is not my boyfriend!" kind of denial in Haruhi's case. She wouldn't admit to liking him, even though it's pretty damn obvious to everyone she does.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Kyon has to on some level know that Haruhi is into him if, for nothing else, how the first book ended (or the anime ended as well). Ultimately the reason he probably doesn't catch the signs I think it just due to your typical anime male social ignorance.

He gets it completely. He just doesn't WANT to get it. Kyon is much, much smarter than your typical anime male lead.

I actually meant a "He is not my boyfriend!" kind of denial in Haruhi's case. She wouldn't admit to liking him, even though it's pretty damn obvious to everyone she does.

Such is tsundere in a nutshell... :heh:


I have my own theory as to why he is in denial, but I would like to ask what your opinions on what you think is the reason he's in denial first. I don't want my first post here to be a wall of text :heh:

Theory that I read on Baka-Tsuki long ago that I personally subscribe to:

Kyon is in denial about his feelings for Haruhi because if he admitted them to himself, he'd have to deal with them.

Kyon is incredibly smart, but he's also incredibly lazy. He has no desire to take responsibility for anything.

This is why he goes after Mikuru, because one day she's going to go home, and he'll never have to put forth any personal effort at all to maintain their relationship.

If he dated Haruhi, however... well, Haruhi isn't going to go away.

[Roger Rambo]

Haruhi isn't in denial, she knows she has feelings. They just frustrate her as Kyon isn't as responsive as she'd like.
Yeah, she is. She goes over the whole "love is a mental sickness" thing several times chronologically after the 1st volume. This isn't something someone who's consciously acknowledged an attraction is going to say. Plus, most of the time she seems just content to drag him around as a lackey.


I'll go with Erraon's explanation. Kyon probably would rather ignore the issue with Haruhi, since acknowledging it would mean he'd have to do something about it.

[Tabasco]

He gets it completely. He just doesn't WANT to get it. Kyon is much, much smarter than your typical anime male lead.



Such is tsundere in a nutshell... :heh:



Theory that I read on Baka-Tsuki long ago that I personally subscribe to:

Kyon is in denial about his feelings for Haruhi because if he admitted them to himself, he'd have to deal with them.

Kyon is incredibly smart, but he's also incredibly lazy. He has no desire to take responsibility for anything.

This is why he goes after Mikuru, because one day she's going to go home, and he'll never have to put forth any personal effort at all to maintain their relationship.

If he dated Haruhi, however... well, Haruhi isn't going to go away.

QFT my friend. I hadn't thought about it very deeply, but I can't help but think you're on to something.

In fairness, even Haruhi admits that Mikuru is more attractive than she is back in the first book, and I think most would agree she has a far better personality. But, when all is said and done, she comes off as kind of useless. Whether that's her real character or not, and personally I think it is, Kyon certainly seems to subscribe to it. He mentions during the giant cricket incident that she's the type to leave her weapon on the train, after all. All of which means that while with the others all he can do is mostly stand on the sidelines, he gets to be the hero to Mikuru.

His other, other option, Yuki, is similar to Haruhi, she isn't going anywhere as far as he knows. What's more, she's even more clueless than Haruhi when it comes to interpersonal relations, so guess who's going to be doing most of the work there too. And, even better, while Haruhi has at least been showing signs of mellowing out and becoming someone with a nodding acquaintance with reality, our favorite alien has been trending exactly the opposite.

I'm certain its been said before, but Kyon's whole story can basically be summed up as 'be careful what you wish for.'

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I'm certain its been said before, but Kyon's whole story can basically be summed up as 'be careful what you wish for.'

Kyon gets to spend his afternoons and weekends with an adorable, yet quiet bookworm; an attractive upperclassman who, despite being tortured every now and then, is easily the most delightfully cheerful girl in his life; a guy who sucks at games, but keeps smiling anyway; and an energetic girl who has many of the same interests as him. The only problems with this life are their statuses as an alien, a time traveler, an esper, and a reality warper(respectively)... and he enjoys it. If "be careful what you wish for" is the message behind the story, Tanigawa messed things up :heh:

[porous_shield]

I think the first episode sums up what Kyon is to Haruhi fairly well. The creator said that he was originally going to have Kyon be an esper but it was dropped. So she has a time traveller, an esper, and an alien so what does that leave for Kyon? It's obviously the love interest role.

At one point in the novel Tsuruya says something along the lines of "don't do anything to my Mikuru, but I'm sure Haruhi would forgive you if you tried the stuff on her (I'm too lazy to track down the actual passage but this is close) Kyon refuses to admit it to himself and doesn't even want to think about it

I don't know if Kyon does find Mikuru more attractive than Haruhi. Mikuru seems to be an acceptable target to voice in his mind his attraction to her. Maybe it's just fanservice but Kyon's eyes seem to linger on Haruhi (especially when she is in the bunny suit) and he out right tells her she looks good in a pony tail. I think he's just comfortable with his current position and afraid to touch Haruhi with a ten foot stick mentally because of her powers and personality.


I have a question I hope can be answered. When Kyon was looking at the pictures of Mikuru that he hid on the computer and Mikuru was hanging on his back and teasing him (I don't remember what episode it was). Haruhi walked in on them and started braiding Mikuru hair and was clearly in a bad mood. Was she teasing Kyon out of spite or did I miss something.

[quigonkenny]

I think the first episode sums up what Kyon is to Haruhi fairly well. The creator said that he was originally going to have Kyon be an esper but it was dropped. So she has a time traveller, an esper, and an alien so what does that leave for Kyon? It's obviously the love interest role.

At one point in the novel Tsuruya says something along the lines of "don't do anything to my Mikuru, but I'm sure Haruhi would forgive you if you tried the stuff on her (I'm too lazy to track down the actual passage but this is close) Kyon refuses to admit it to himself and doesn't even want to think about it

I don't know if Kyon does find Mikuru more attractive than Haruhi. Mikuru seems to be an acceptable target to voice in his mind his attraction to her. Maybe it's just fanservice but Kyon's eyes seem to linger on Haruhi (especially when she is in the bunny suit) and he out right tells her she looks good in a pony tail. I think he's just comfortable with his current position and afraid to touch Haruhi with a ten foot stick mentally because of her powers and personality.


I have a question I hope can be answered. When Kyon was looking at the pictures of Mikuru that he hid on the computer and Mikuru was hanging on his back and teasing him (I don't remember what episode it was). Haruhi walked in on them and started braiding Mikuru hair and was clearly in a bad mood. Was she teasing Kyon out of spite or did I miss something.

Think it's safe to say that Kyon finds Mikuru more attractive than Haruhi, just like every other male in the series (and doubtless Haruhi herself). That's Mikuru's thing. She's the moe goddess, while Haruhi is more of the actual "with-powers" goddess... (Not every goddess can be both (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belldandy)...) Granted, all the non-physical reasons to not to be attracted to Haruhi do tend to weigh things in Mikuru's favor...

See what you're getting at about Haruhi braiding Mikuru's hair, but I don't think Kyon is so much a braided ponytail kind of guy as he is a plain ponytail kind of guy. The few times we see his fetish pop up, it's fairly apparent that the girl in question is wearing unbraided ponytails. Besides, that scene occurred before Kyon "confessed" to Haruhi about his "affinity".

Also vaguely remember Tsuruya-san saying something along the lines of that quote. Pretty sure it was in Volume 7, as that contains the highest concentration of Tsuruya-related win. ^_^

[Vexx]

I have a question that I hope someone can answer. At the end of the second episode revolving around the island murder mystery, when they're riding the ferry back to the mainland, Itsuki is staring very intently at what turns out to be a hairy mole on Kyon's neck. What was up with that? Just Itsuki 'drinking in the sights', or was it meant to be something more sinister? I almost thought it was some kind of mark on Kyon ... ^^;

I tend to assume that the mole wasn't there "before". In other words, it is a clue to Itsuki that the universe keeps flickering to slightly different variables depending on the unconscious mood shifts of Haruhi. They were only "lucky" enough to spot the last Big One that indicated the entire universe had been reformulated when Haruhi had her first revelation. But yes, it isn't mentioned in the books at all that I can recall.

[Tabasco]

Kyon gets to spend his afternoons and weekends with an adorable, yet quiet bookworm; an attractive upperclassman who, despite being tortured every now and then, is easily the most delightfully cheerful girl in his life; a guy who sucks at games, but keeps smiling anyway; and an energetic girl who has many of the same interests as him. The only problems with this life are their statuses as an alien, a time traveler, an esper, and a reality warper(respectively)... and he enjoys it. If "be careful what you wish for" is the message behind the story, Tanigawa messed things up :heh:

I'll grant you he mostly likes his time there, even the more messed up parts, Kyon says as much when he hits the reset button in Disappearance.

But I also think that he isn't immune to something like buyer's remorse every now and then, and I suspect he'd agree that an adventure is someone else in deep trouble and far from home.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I think the only times he's really regretted being in the club were when his life was in danger. Other than that, it's usually just false complaints(and at least one real one) about Haruhi.

[porous_shield]

I guess my thinking that Haruhi is more attractive to Kyon than Mikuru may have been based on my preference for Haruhi over Mikuru (I don't dislike her but I think Haruhi is far more interesting in a car crash sort of way and attractive than Mikuru).

See what you're getting at about Haruhi braiding Mikuru's hair, but I don't think Kyon is so much a braided ponytail kind of guy as he is a plain ponytail kind of guy. The few times we see his fetish pop up, it's fairly apparent that the girl in question is wearing unbraided ponytails. Besides, that scene occurred before Kyon "confessed" to Haruhi about his "affinity".


I think you misinterpreted what I asked. I wanted to know what was up with that scene of her braiding Mikuru's hair. Haruhi was absolutely fuming and Mikuru was like a scared mouse. I just could never figure out what was going on in that scene; it wasn't related to the first part of my earlier post.