justsomeguy
2005-12-18, 23:16
Air the Movie
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:5nZpDdumQ3YJ:forums.animesuki.com/archive/index.php/t-37931.html
guuchan
2005-08-10, 05:10
Just watched it, and yes, it's time to rant about it.
(What I'm going to say is not really a spoiler so I won't use the spoiler tag, but don't read ahead if you want to watch without being affected by my opinion.)
First of all, the drawing. The drawing of TV version was amazing, while the movie's is... bleh. Misuzu looks all right, but I can't accept Haruko's, especially close-up ones. I was expecting the drawing of movie to be better than TV's, or at least as good, but obviously it didn't turn out so.
Second, the voicing. They're the same seiyuu as of the game's (PS2 version), but somehow the performance has gotten much worse. Misuzu's is a big disappointment --- even comparing to the TV's, which should be done around the same time, Misuzu sounds quite different in the movie. Yukito's (Midorikawa Hikaru, game's Yukito's seiyuu, whom I prefer over Ono Daisuke) is all right, but I still like his performance in the game much more. Hisakawa Aya did a fine job for Haruko, along with others who didn't appear much. (Surprisingly, Potato actually gets to "talk" for quite a bit, while Kano, Michiru and others only get to appear for a second, or even less.)
Storywise it's acceptable, with quite some changes here and there comparing to the original story. I think die-hard AIR fans will probably have something to say about it though.
"IF DREAMS CAME TRUE" is what I like most from this movie, and that's pretty much it.
Rugal
2005-08-10, 10:48
I gave Air the Movie for 7/10. It was being changed too much. Very much. Kanna is nothing but a... wait... ?
By talking more than this would be a complain and rant. (And I already did it on this board in Movie/ TV topic.)
I gave this Movie 7/10, that should hinted you something...
The only part I like is the picture you saw below. It made me cried ONCE and I think that I can live with my wife is truly is a happiness. We can live together and loving each other, that's the best I can do for my love one.
What I hate at most about the movie is...
(This is a rant! completely!)
Kanna is COMPLETELY differrent from what you seen in TV or game. She's now a "lonely" princess who being cursed not to love anyone but she really want to. Kanna fell in love with Ryuya since she saw him at first sight. The creators refused to show "blood" but allowed "boo...s" .Heck. This explained why there's no Summer scene in the preview. Kanna and Ryuya just... rinse, repeat, rinse repeat.... This Summer is nowhere near the Summer in original story. Sad? Yes. Very sad, but it made me think I just watching lonely princess and her forbidden love story with her young guardian.
I should've ranted about this long before but it'll spoiled things, so I decided not to.
outlaw97
2005-08-12, 01:10
How incredibly underwhelming.
I mean, it's good that they focused on just Misuzu instead of trying to cover everybody. And granted, I'm probably missing out since a lot of dialogue was beyond my comprehension, but everything just seemed so lackluster. The only reason scenes evoked emotions from me were because of my memories of the TV series.
Also, what were they doing with their budget? I don't know how much went into making this movie, but it looked like it all went into the ocean waves and scenery. My biggest gripe was the sheer number of pastel still shots - I understand they can be used for dramatic emphasis, but they were so abundant it started to feel more like budget constraints than anything else.
There were more lighthearted moments though, and I will say I like the ending scene a little more than its TV counterpart. I haven't played the game, so I'd be curious to know what changes were made in adapting it to the movie. *EDIT* Never mind, I see someone did just that in another thread.
Otherwise, I think the TV series just set the bar too high for me.
GokuJunior
2005-08-13, 05:45
Finally Air the movie has a release!!!
:D
aogaeru
2005-08-13, 05:59
Ah, I completely forgot about this. I briefly read the reviews given here, but hopefully it won’t taint my expectations too much… I’ll watch and report back. :)
Narumi
2005-08-13, 06:31
Hmm, time to change passwords... sorry for the inturruption :heh:
justsomeguy
2005-08-13, 11:34
Eien no Anime has released AIR the Movie (DVD Version). Enjoy.
...the size of the file is huge. :eyespin: How long was the movie?
Angelsama
2005-08-13, 12:29
How long was the movie?
The movie last's around 90 minutes long. ^^
AnimeOni
2005-08-13, 13:08
With all the hype and anticipation, I felt that the movie was a major letdown. It would rate it a 5/10. The story line kept on skipping some key scenes and it didn't flow really well. The animation was so-so (lot of static images). But in some cases, there was a lot of detail.
It looked like they spent a lot of money on the key frames and CG but everything else looked ... blah...
Hokomaneal
2005-08-13, 19:18
I'm pretty disappointed too... (to say the least :/). I only watched like 5 minutes of it... 'don't want to bother me before going to sleep...
The movie really is different from the TV show... (didn't play the game, so I don't know what's about it).
Voices (Yukito, at least), design (westernized? Misuzu eyes suck), story, pace ('seems like I'm watching the movie while fast forwarding), characters (Yukito seems like a drunkard), etc. this is just too much differences, especially as they are different in a worse way... :/
If it was like a side story, or something like that, that may have been acceptable... but if they just retell the TV show story, which is the case, if I understood well, it plainly sucks... I hate when there are differences between movies/tv show/books/games about the same "world". I just cannot accept the differences and I think it's pretty human.
Rugal
2005-08-13, 20:07
That's why I gave it 7/10. Only acceptable if you think this is something that ISN'T Air.
If yes, the Movie is watchable, even better for the last half part of the movie.
potatochobit
2005-08-13, 20:47
does the movie have a similar ending to the TV series... because i dont really want to watch it and have my temper flare up again for a week or two....
i prefer to be in a happy mood usually...
Shadow_Skill
2005-08-13, 23:30
Just finished watching it. Its now 4am GMT. :twitch:
I didn't think this movie was all that bad. Its more romantic than the TV version but not as funny.
What I liked about this movie was that the storyline was based on the "what if this happen instead" that did not happen in the TV version.
Hope that makes sense :confused:
For example
Haruko actually treating Misuzo how she should be treated from the start.
Kanna confessed her love for the bodyguard(forgot his name)
and Yukito and misuzo falling in love.
also Yukoto putting mizuzo's father in is place was entertaining :D
Only thing that was disappointing was the animation, but u eventually get used to it.(btw the animation is not worse than narutos korean company :eyespin: )
SO as an AIR fan who never played the game. I think think this film was ok, even tho its 1.36GB :)
Good nite
outlaw97
2005-08-13, 23:42
does the movie have a similar ending to the TV series... because i dont really want to watch it and have my temper flare up again for a week or two....
i prefer to be in a happy mood usually...
The movie has the same ending as the TV, but with one major change to make it more straightforward. I think if they did this ending in the TV, it would've eliminated a lot of debate over a couple points.
Ugh, I don't know if I want to download the subbed version having already seen the raw - it's already left a bad taste in my mouth, I doubt the pieces of dialogue I missed would redeem it.
Potato's cameo was a definite highlight though!
Rugal
2005-08-13, 23:52
In actually, Ryuya will never accept Kanna's love in the original as he thread her as his... daughter. Not that he doesn't love her. He just love her in very differrent way from what we see in Movie. It came to this because of the limitation of length, only 91 minutes and Summer Arc is around 12 minutes.
As you can see,
-Ryuya was much younger than we saw in the original one (arund 21-23) and and much more differrent. Ryuya in the game was such... quiet pervert and playboy-ish. Yet he did loyal to Kanna to his death like in the movie.
-Kanna is much older with her looks/ the way she act. Probably she's around 18 while Original Kanna is around 15 to 16 in the game. In fact I like Movie Kanna, but the way she acts disappointed me as she's a... dumb...
Kanna in the movie looks like the girl who can jump into anyone who she love since she was very "lonely" and that's because she was being confined for her entire life. She's very lonely, so fragile, wanting someone to love her and cure her for her loneliness. Being more straight of course. Crying, Crying, crying.
Kanna in the original one, was a girl who "pretend to be strong" yet she's very alone. She never act such thing because she must be "proud" and "honor" for what she is. Even that thing is useless to her and she never wanted it. Kanna in this one is more realistic as a character if you asked me.
Kanna in the movie was cursed not to love anyone (as you can see) but original doesn't. She only got those curses by touching her mother and it pass down to her by the death of her mother. So what you've seen in the first part of original summer, is, in fact, a normal girl.
Change the characters' names and look, then you got entire new story about Summer. Ryuya is young guardian and Kanna is a lonely princess, they fell in love but then Kanna's true purpose is what made it a tragic.
Plus. Ryuya in the Movie seems to be around 21 while he's around 27 in the original one. (In order to suits Kanna more in the movie. I think you don't want to see 27 yrs old girl loving with 16 yrs. old girl, I think?)
Not that I don't like the movie. It should be better than this.
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-14, 01:28
Oi, I'm dlin at 3kbps. Was the torrent this slow for you folks ever? The ratio is just crazy o_O
justsomeguy
2005-08-14, 02:25
...I've skimmed through the movie, will try to watch the whole thing tomorrow.
thoughts:
1) while the art is by no means bad, the faces were non-Key/VisualArts-ish. The faces were too round, and the eyes too small!
2) lots of lighting effects give a surreal atmosphere
3) the town seems much larger and more populated
4) this movie makes me appreciate the TV series even more than I already do.
Kamui4356
2005-08-14, 06:13
Well, I just finished watching the movie, and I have to say, it's just not AIR. Really it was pretty good, but as I said, it's not AIR. For the first half I was like ''wtf? That's not how it's supposed to go'', but eventually I reached a point that I could seperate it from AIR and actually enjoy it. :heh:
If I were to think of it in terms of AIR, I'd have to say it was a horrible hack job, while thinking about it independent of AIR it's actually quite good.
As for the animation, it seems like the budget for the movie was maybe 1/3 of the budget for a single episode of the tv series. I hope this shows what a horrible mistake it was to entrust this to someone other than kyoto animation...
GokuJunior
2005-08-14, 07:16
Oi, I'm dlin at 3kbps. Was the torrent this slow for you folks ever? The ratio is just crazy o_O
Yeah, this thing just doesn´t go up... is always between 3 KB/s and 5 KB/s and my maximum is around 60 KB/s... In a week I have it if this goes on :heh:
Tiberium Wolf
2005-08-14, 08:06
If u ppl are using the bt of Eien no Anime. Well when I started to download I checked it had 4 seeds and 800 pears. After a few hours it had 6 seeds and 2000 pears... I guess u see why it's slow! :P
Jeffrey Ruebel
2005-08-14, 10:05
It's probably just me but I thought the movie was good. It change the story around alittle but pretty much ended the same. And I like the character drawings better well every one but Haruko. I am glade they didn't put in the other character storys in the movie.
Rugal
2005-08-14, 11:20
People who love Misuzu will be OK with the movie since she took the main role...
While the others... Ugh... Like me. Kanna is there, but that isn't Kanna at all.
dgreater1
2005-08-14, 14:47
I guess, the game and the Anime set my standards too high ^_^, anyway... I think the movie was pretty good, they actually made it into a more romantic show. No problem with Yukito's voice since I've played the game before ^_^, but the way Haruko was drawn is a bit bother.... anyway, I guess I'm not that disappointed since I heard lots and lots of rumors that the movie script was totally different from the Anime and Game ^_^ so my mind was set to watching a totally different Air (like watching El Hazard), though I know what will happen to Misuzu... it still made me cry T_T
Maceart
2005-08-14, 16:19
Actually, I'll rate the movie just a little bit lower than the TV series. C'mon, it's from a completely different director (this time from the director of BlackJack) and the animation was taken care of by Toei animation. Besides, Key/Visual Arts already said that the story for AIR movie will be completely different.
What I did like about the movie is that they took one story and stuck with it, so it was a lot more clearer than the TV series.
I also liked the more mellow Yukito, although it seemed like he was drunk sometimes...
I also liked more emphasis on romance, since it brought more drama and less fantasy and mystical beings to the movie.
I did not like the cutscenes. Not cool at all.
TV rating: 9.5
Movie Rating: 8.9
Colonel-
2005-08-14, 16:57
The scene that really got me by surprise is the Sora scene, where he said "nihaha" and "V" to Yukito. I was dumbstruck for a second, then started chuckling :) And i was wondering why they made Keisuke to be such an asshole :confused:
If you consider the movie as a stand alone production and not compare it to the TV series or the original story, in my opinion, the movie itself is quite beautiful. The Aosora scene doesn't feel that powerful though for some reason, but nevertheless, it is a touching story with a bittersweet ending.
Magus IX
2005-08-14, 18:13
I, for one, loved the movie. Obviously the TV series is still in a class of its own, but I thought the movie made some interesting changes and worked out quite well, given the time & story constraints involved.
One of the things it might help to keep in mind while watching the film is its director. Osamu Dezaki is extremely revered and famous for having directed such diverse classic anime as Ashita no Joe, They Were 11 and Rose of Versailles. Perhaps because of this, the AIR movie features a style of directing that is fresh & modern, yet infused with old-school sensibilities.
The still frames aren't a sign of cheapness; they're just a stylistic choice, used to emphasize moments of high emotion. I guess they might seem startling to people because they aren't used (in that capacity) as frequently nowadays. Repeating a motion three times in rapid succession is also something you might see in older anime a lot (it's used very often in Oniisama E, for example).
I'm quite startled at those who have complained about the animation (as opposed to the artwork, which is a matter of taste--for the record, I didn't have any real problems with the new character designs). The animation itself is beautiful and engaging... I realize that we've all been spoiled by the AIR television series, but while the movie doesn't have Miyazaki-level animation, it's nevertheless a cut above the show.
Visually, I just found the movie to be incredibly impressive. It's stunningly beautiful, and inventive at that: I loved how the director exaggerated the fishbowl lens effect. The split-screen scenes were also interesting, and I thought the still frames were well chosen. Even the way shadows were cast & light was shown was fascinating.
As for the story changes, I liked some and disliked others. You win some, you lose some. I actually thought the movie's story was in certain ways less clear-cut than that of the TV show... they made the parallels between Misuzu's situation and Kanna's very obvious, but the connection was never stated outright, IIRC. It's also unfortunate that Kanna's role ended up being diminished (same goes for Uraha).
I really appreciated the Aozora scene....
It was almost vindicating, in a way, to see Misuzu coming toward both Yukito & Haruko.
Tiberium Wolf
2005-08-15, 02:29
They the story was nice... yet again i get depressed :mad:
Anyway what I didn't quite like was the light effects... God! It was shining everywhere!!! Even when Misuzu and Yukito was in that store to eat the fried egg was shining too!!!
I think the light effects were exaggerated.
Also the way they drawed Misuzu face made her look older. :twitch:
I like also when Sora imitated Misuzu... hehehe... "Nihaha!" & "V!" :eek: :D
andiyar
2005-08-15, 09:57
The movie was enjoyable - a pleasant enough way to spend ninety-odd minutes. It's not something that I'll rewatch for a while though - the TV series of Air I've watched through quite a few times since January.
I did enjoy the movie, but I had to keep reminding myself that it wasn't really Air. It was a bit too alien. Mind you, the romance story was fun - but I missed the seiyuu, and I especially missed the art style. It just isn't nearly as beautiful as the TV show.
-Andiyar
Magus IX
2005-08-15, 13:27
andiyar, wasn't only one seiyuu (Yukito's, IIRC) different?
andiyar
2005-08-15, 20:49
andiyar, wasn't only one seiyuu (Yukito's, IIRC) different?
Ah, my mistake. My sentence should have read "seiyuu & voices," being as I didn't like Misuzu's new voice very much, nor the differences in Kanna's. The seiyuu themselves are indeed the same, but the actual voices used for the characters are different. Notably Misuzu's voice - she sounds quite different to me, probably because of the 'maturation' changes made to her character. :)
Apologies for my lack of clarity. ^_^
Oh, and for the record, I did like some of the actual animation in the movie - noticeably the usage of split screens, but the difference in character design and artwork just threw me.
-Andiyar
Angelsama
2005-08-15, 21:28
I like the whole idea of the movie, the fact that its just the series, but with all the side stories taken out - and for me it improved with the story (to do with Yukito).
Glad to see that some of the voice cast from the series were there, especially Tomoko Kawakami as Misuzu again.. wow how Her voice just makes me melt!
Was pretty shocked by how much i like the art style too, in some ways it added more to the love style of the movie.
Just gotta wait for the Summer special now.. and wow i hope it gets subbed. ^^;
Rugal
2005-08-15, 23:12
The Movie is good when you think of Misuzu's part.
But for Summer. It's just... well... A forbidden love story and from where I lived, I've heard and read many tales like this.
The story was very romantic. Admitted.
She was cursed after she deeply fell in love with Ryuuya, her young guardian. one side of me said I should force myself to love it but... the Original summer forced me back as If... well... To think of it as a forbidden love story of human and god and a love story between a traveller and a girl in country town aren't all bad.
In fact, my wife love the movie more than TV series. Do you believe that?
They taken many things out to fit their 10-minutes role in the movie. Which is... well... acceptable.
7/10 is still there. Considered that the Movie was mediocre.
Leo_Otaku
2005-08-15, 23:46
I saw the movie last week raw. I thought is was alright. In the previews it seemed kind of better. The art style was alright. I'm not big on "man that art sucks so I won't watch it" people like that are so ignorant.
I liked that there was some kind of romance with Yukito and Misuzu. I wasn't fond of Ryuuya's charcter design. He looked really....not cool 0_o.
Over all I liked it. I would give it a 7 or 8 out of 10. I liked the Potato tv show XD.
Zakas
2005-08-16, 05:41
It made me cry all the same...(again~)
I thought it was pretty good..
Damn you sadness.
sugi
2005-08-16, 06:08
The movie wasn't so good like tv show .
Style of drawing was another ... bun not only another ,it was just worse.
The faces was diffrent , eyes ... even mouths . Colours was another .
So animators think , that will be better if they add more [SO MORE !!] effects.
Story was a little alternative , it focusing olny 'one' point of view .
But everything was like a 'dream' it wasn't so 'compact' like on tv .
voices are changed , they're qite ok .
Characters are similar , but misuzu and kanna looks (and acting) older .
Another characters from tv show (like kano , minagi ,potato :D ) was only on faaaar background .
I Think music wasn't so good . We can only hear the 'changed' theme from tv show ,
in the end the pice of aozora , but they don't create any new theme !!
I think the movie would be better when the music will better .
Air movie was little dissapointment , but not so bad (for me tv show was the best of anime i've watched , so i think the movie was a class lower than tv show . )
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Air S.special ic comming soon :D :D
NeoRagod
2005-08-16, 11:58
Yesterday, I recieved my Special Version of the movie. So for the first 10 minutes the movie was really odd as many of you said, but with the time passing i started to enjoy a little bit more, and yes, i really want a more lovely kanna, she was just strange for me. And Ryuuya ahgg, he really suck for me ¬¬, i prefer the summer arc of the tv series. But, in the other hand i really really really love the relationshio between mizusu and yukito, it was sooooo romatic (I want my own mizusu!!!! T_T ).and for me the movie mizusu was a little bit better than the tv series, because, it wasnt so childlish, the way she act was more reallisctic. Loved that.
In overall i will give the movia a 8, while the tv series is 9.5
mangafanatic
2005-08-16, 12:14
I guess I don't really know what I think of this movie yet. . .
Initially, I expected the movie to be a recap of the anime. When it wasn't I was rather shocked, so I know a great deal of the joy of the movie was taken away from me by that gnawing "That's not RIGHT!!" voice in my head. But once I could push past that annoyance, I sort of enjoyed the Misuzu arc presented in the movie. Rather than find acceptance from Yuukito in the final moments of his earthly existance, instead they get a real chance at open love. The sentimentalist in me was enthralled by this new angle to the story. (I especially enjoyed the final scene when he finds her in the temple. Very cute.)
Overall--
Anime: Exceptional.
Movie: Better than average. I suppose. :P
Khanate
2005-08-16, 12:33
Hum... I watched a bit before going ack into my cave mumbling 'not same story, animation not as good, bleh *mumble mumble*'
but i still want to watch so ill watch it in 2 weeks when i come back from vacation
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-16, 20:22
I have a question concerning one of the aspects of the ending though.
At the end, we see that Yukito is still alive riding the bus until the end, where the scene cuts it off and we see the baby dinosaur keychain that Misuzu had given to him previously. When he says, "By the way, If you ever see Misuzu, say Hello to me for her. I'll always be with her." At this point, I'm sort of left hanging to know whether or not Yukito gave his life to be with Misuzu and therefore we see the keychain. Or is it simply a shot of the momento that Misuzu gave Yukito to show it's significance?
Although, at the end, I do like how Yukito talks towards the audience, giving us a task. It makes me feel somewhat better, more fulfilled and yet I can't exactly explain it.
7/10 is still there. Considered that the Movie was mediocre.
It wasn't so much as mediocre. It's just the style and the approach it took was a bit different, but in the same way, it did appeal to viewers. Hell, it was enough to make some cry a second time again.
Misuzu
2005-08-16, 22:38
Alright Alright, Here's my point of view. When I first started watching it, I was so mad about the totally different type of art and characters. I was also bummed when Misuzu wasn't as... well... Umm ... "Dorkey-Cute", but then the story started to develop as I always wanted it to ^_^ (*Misuzu&Yukito*) and my mood changed drastically, and i started to get used to the crapy animation and think that a more "mature" and more straightforward Misuzu was better for the movie (I was also hoping the ending was gonna be different from the series T_T). But anyways, the movie was great from my point of view exept from all those animation and voice problems you all mentioned before but other than that.. I Loved It!
p.s.- ^^^^hey same avatar^^^^ =P
puzk
2005-08-17, 08:24
I don't know why you guys are complaining about the animation style. It seems like we've been too spoiled by the TV series.
The movie's animation was excellent, compared to other animated movies. Musicwise, it lacked significantly compared to the TV series.
The movie had a different theme compared to the TV series, more focusing on the 'romance' element compared to the 'mother & daughter' theme of the original TV series.
I really liked the romantic version of Mizusu... she seems to be more playful and cheerful.
Anyway the movie gave a simple and clear delivery of the complex story of AIR.
Top marks for that! I didn't have to go back and re-watch to understand what's going on.
Limiter
2005-08-17, 11:49
I like it, Misuzu seems more slightly grown. with a change of voice. I felt its just right.
Having events going differently that usual is new way of telling the story.
Angelsama
2005-08-17, 17:02
I really liked the romantic version of Mizusu... she seems to be more playful and cheerful.
Thats where all my love for the movie is coming from. She carries a lot more feelings for people in the movie - i love it!
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-17, 21:25
Can someone answer my question posted above at the spoiler -_-? I don't mean to sound picky and sorry if I do. I just wanted to know because I'm not that great at philosophy behind animes so the concepts are a bit hard to grasp like this one.
Rugal
2005-08-17, 22:02
To Forevergone:
At the end, we see that Yukito is still alive riding the bus until the end, where the scene cuts it off and we see the baby dinosaur keychain that Misuzu had given to him previously. When he says, "By the way, If you ever see Misuzu, say Hello to me for her. I'll always be with her." At this point, I'm sort of left hanging to know whether or not Yukito gave his life to be with Misuzu and therefore we see the keychain. Or is it simply a shot of the momento that Misuzu gave Yukito to show it's significance?
Isn't he riding the train?
No Yukito didn't gave his life to Misuzu. "Misuzu" was a memorable experience to him as he told to us audience for a whole time. At the end, he tell us that if you see one of...
"Various forms of Winged girl that could be nearby from you."
Osamu-san didn't think the curse has been lifted either. Who knows? In the movie they don't explains any details about the curse either. It's more like we saw a story of diseased girl instead of one many reincarnations of the demi-god being who being sealed in the sky since an ancient time.
Yukito kept it as his momento. It's much like we're one of the children who listening to the story of one old traveler that has been told to us. The story of a diseased girl who always compared herself to a princess in folktale, lived in seaside small town he met a long time ago.
All Misuzu want is to ease Kanna's pain. She believes that there is Kanna-hime in the sky.
Romantic? Yes. Very good for Misuzu's part. My wife loves it. But for Kanna's part was just a soap opera to me.
Very bad if compared to the original Summer...
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-17, 22:25
To Forevergone:
Isn't he riding the train?
No Yukito didn't gave his life to Misuzu. "Misuzu" was a memorable experience to him as he told to us audience for a whole time. At the end, he tell us that if you see one of...
"Various forms of Winged girl that could be nearby from you."
Osamu-san didn't think the curse has been lifted either. Who knows? In the movie they don't explains any details about the curse either. It's more like we saw a story of diseased girl instead of one many reincarnations of the demi-god being who being sealed in the sky since an ancient time.
Yukito kept it as his momento. It's much like we're one of the children who listening to the story of one old traveler that has been told to us. The story of a diseased girl who always compared herself to a princess in folktale, lived in seaside small town he met a long time ago.
All Misuzu want is to ease Kanna's pain. She believes that there is Kanna-hime in the sky.
Romantic? Yes. Very good for Misuzu's part. My wife loves it. But for Kanna's part was just a soap opera to me.
Very bad if compared to the original Summer...
Awesome. Thanks a bunch Rugal!
And also, Ryuuya looks way too funky in the movie. I think his appearance in the series in comparison to his in the movie is questionable, indeed.
Rugal
2005-08-17, 23:30
He was palnned to be Kanna's "wild, strange and a mere ruffian" guardian from the beginning. He suits that role perfectly since he was build from that idea. That's why there's no such a scene of his and Kanna in the original game.
The original theme of Kanna was "A girl who never been an adult and destined to dreaming forever". That's why there is none of such scenes. Imagine original 27-yrs-old Ryuya and 15 to 16 years old Kanna... They're more like father and daughter rather than a couples.
But in the movie. You need to build a character who really gave himself to love.
There he is. Around-21-yrs.-old-and-young Ryuya-dohno of the movie. He looks very fond and a bit cocky to suits his role he should do in the movie. Ryuya in the Movie and original was completely differrent characters. Imagine IF Ryuya in the original was in the movie and...
Ugh... that scared me a little bit.
For me Ryuya in the Movie look a bit cocky but well if we speaking of his role in it. It isn't bad. Not at all. The movie did changed Kanna's role to suits him and the story though.
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-18, 09:14
He was palnned to be Kanna's "wild, strange and a mere ruffian" guardian from the beginning. He suits that role perfectly since he was build from that idea. That's why there's no such a scene of his and Kanna in the original game.
The original theme of Kanna was "A girl who never been an adult and destined to dreaming forever". That's why there is none of such scenes. Imagine original 27-yrs-old Ryuya and 15 to 16 years old Kanna... They're more like father and daughter rather than a couples.
But in the movie. You need to build a character who really gave himself to love.
There he is. Around-21-yrs.-old-and-young Ryuya-dohno of the movie. He looks very fond and a bit cocky to suits his role he should do in the movie. Ryuya in the Movie and original was completely differrent characters. Imagine IF Ryuya in the original was in the movie and...
Ugh... that scared me a little bit.
For me Ryuya in the Movie look a bit cocky but well if we speaking of his role in it. It isn't bad. Not at all. The movie did changed Kanna's role to suits him and the story though.
Yea, that was what was bothering me a bit. But the way you explain it, I can see now. Ryuuya fits more of the role if hes that age to fulfill his position with Kanna in the movie. Whereas in the series, he really did look a bit more mature that way, so it was a bit qwerky when I saw this at first.
Nayuki
2005-08-19, 15:42
starting of the movie was somehow abit boring to me.. but after 10mins.. things started to get intresting... the movie was more to romance then the mother daughter love... but once again it made me cry again!!!... but wat i like about the movie was that its concentrated on misuzu and yukito... i would give a 9.5/10 to the series and 9.3/10 to the movie.. i enjoyed the movie... geez wonder how am i going to copy the movie to my cdr which is onli 700mb
Rugal
2005-08-19, 19:35
Yea, that was what was bothering me a bit. But the way you explain it, I can see now. Ryuuya fits more of the role if hes that age to fulfill his position with Kanna in the movie. Whereas in the series, he really did look a bit more mature that way, so it was a bit qwerky when I saw this at first.
Yes it should be that way. Changing:
Ryuya: 21 years old young, new, strong guardian who being sent to Kanna's palace.
Kanna: 18 to 19 years old lonely princess who being confined in the palace for entire life.
That's what happened in the movie. They were changed, completely, to match each other and the roles that was given to them.
Not that I don't like them. I LOVE them. I just hate the fact that my Summer Arc was being changed too much...
Well, it's time for taking care of my little Kanna now.
BYE.
sugi
2005-08-20, 14:20
geez wonder how am i going to copy the movie to my cdr which is onli 700mb
a)share file , and cerate 2 files
b) or rip file to rmvb
c)or buy dvd-rw ;)
XtAzY
2005-08-20, 17:20
i just finished watchin the movie a couple of minutes ago. Overall the movie was great, but the ending of the movie just doesnt really suits me well
I mean if your gonna think beyond da ending, with Yukito being alone for the rest of his life, it seems really sad to me. Mizusu is nothing but a loving memory in his head. It'll be funny if they decided to make some ova about a "what if yukito and mizusu actually lived together lol".. but that will ruin the point of the AIR series =p
Bokas
2005-08-29, 09:42
Need to hear reviews (Picture/sound/sub qualities) on Air Movie, either/both versions.
- Eien no Anime 's DVD version.
- Manhole-Fansubs' h.264 codec
Thanks in advance :)
ashibaka
2005-08-29, 14:51
Manhole Fansubs' version is very high quality, but I can't figure out if the aspect ratio is correct.
The sound is far superior and the sub quality is fine.
vvv Two separate releases. Both are 1.4GiB. So, I would say "no".
justsomeguy
2005-08-29, 18:48
I take it there is no way to shrink the file down to 700 without massive quality loss? I mean, this movie is the length of three tv episodes, and 233 was just fine for Air TV.
zalas
2005-08-29, 20:53
I take it there is no way to shrink the file down to 700 without massive quality loss? I mean, this movie is the length of three tv episodes, and 233 was just fine for Air TV.
That struck me as odd. The show didn't have that much resolution, although it did have a lot of extra motion introduced for theatrical effect.
ToshioRyu
2005-08-30, 16:57
How come EnA released a 2nd version to the Air Movie???????lol i haven't had time to watch it yet lol. But why a 2nd version? they found out how to make the file size smaller?
ObsidianZ
2005-09-02, 00:39
anyone know if koi is going to be subbing this?
AdawgDaFAB
2005-09-02, 21:25
Im also hoping that Koi does this and eventually the summer special, but out of the two now. Which is the best one? The Eien v2 or the Manhole one?
TougeSil80
2005-09-04, 01:37
I didn't think it was that bad. It's focusing more on Yukito and Misuzu's story, which I liked. But changing the Ryuuya and Kanna story sucks. Now the curse and Misuzu's illness doesn't seem to connect as well. And I agree that the AIR's magic is lost. For some reason, it just doesn't feel like AIR anymore.
Rugal
2005-09-04, 07:54
^^ Like I said...
This is a "A Seaside Love Story" by Ozamu-san. Not Air.
kmisuzu
2005-09-04, 20:45
Yay for Koi, their releases are available at http://tracker.kukaionline.com/ they should be linked from the animesuki index soon I think
koi
2005-09-04, 20:45
Im also hoping that Koi does this and eventually the summer special
Your hope has been answered. We have just released the movie (dvd rip) in two formats. The XviD version is made for better compatibility and also for slower computers. The H.264 version uses more advanced technology to fit the movie in one cd but won't play on slower machines and will also be tougher to play, in terms of compatibility.
To dispel any rumours, I will make it clear here. We are not dead and will be finishing the AIR specials, albeit in HDTV. We are just taking longer than usual because we don't have as much free time as we did last year in high school. However, you can be sure that we will get them out, eventually...
That said, personally, I do think that the movie does not have as much appeal as the TV series did, mainly because the movie had a rushed plot and sudden resolution. There is also the time limitation that prevented the movie from developing any of the characters. As a result, I did not feel as much affection for Misuzu and Kanna as I did in the TV series.
justsomeguy
2005-09-05, 09:15
The H.264 version uses more advanced technology to fit the movie in one cd but won't play on slower machines and will also be tougher to play, in terms of compatibility.
Can anybody recommend a free codec for H.264?
andiyar
2005-09-05, 19:24
Can anybody recommend a free codec for H.264?
VideoLanClient (http://www.videolan.org/).
-Andiyar
wwenze
2005-09-06, 03:35
How come EnA released a 2nd version to the Air Movie???????lol i haven't had time to watch it yet lol. But why a 2nd version? they found out how to make the file size smaller?
I watched v1 but re-downloaded v2 for archiving thinking it would be better,
and true enough, the font is much better in v2. In v1 I was straining my eyes trying to read it on TV, in the end watch on com instead. There should be other changes too, like a few typo which I noticed in v1.
But now that Koi's is out, going to download it instead since I have their TV part, and they throw in a lot of useful information (including the part when they apologized for mixing up the gender of "that child" -> didn't play the game b4?)
Will compare AV quality after I finish downloading. :)
Transparent
2005-09-06, 10:56
This is wierd, I have both versions of the Koi release, and I can't get the audio to play correctly. H.264 runs fine on my machine, but it seems that some of the speech can't be played?
I've tryed the CoreAAC codec and it still didn't work. Has this happened for anyone else?
Diedrupo
2005-09-06, 22:08
I finally watched it and personally I thought it was great. Sure it's not really like the Air game or tv series, but when you make a movie adaption, of course it's going to be different, and I thought they did it fairly well. It managed to capture the essence of Air and also add a romantic touch that was missing from the tv series.
Skuld
2005-09-07, 03:14
Wow, I rather enjoyed it. It made me pop in my Re-feel CD again right after.
- I was happy to hear Midorikawa Hikaru again as Yukito. Yays~
- The BGM wasn't too impressive.
- I liked how they covered both sides by having the two stories told parallel with each other.
And as always... the disadvantage of movies is that everything had to be compressed into the 1 1/2 hours, making it feel a bit rushed. Besides the mentioned, I liked the change for the movie.
Angelhalo
2005-09-07, 04:28
This is wierd, I have both versions of the Koi release, and I can't get the audio to play correctly. H.264 runs fine on my machine, but it seems that some of the speech can't be played?
I've tryed the CoreAAC codec and it still didn't work. Has this happened for anyone else?
I've been trying to d/l it for 2 days already, and non have reach 100 mb for some reason. Torrents for other stuff that i download are working fine. I wonder what went wrong :(
ViVi_bOi
2005-09-07, 05:41
*Added Air - Movie into the Fansubs Comparison*
K. Yamato
2005-09-08, 14:44
I loved this movie...actually I did a wallpaper on it
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7134/misuzuwallpaper4ki.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=misuzuwallpaper4ki.jpg)
Took some time though this is dedicated to it :), almost cried at the ending :( but seriously this is one of the best anime movie I've seen in a long time
Morisato
2005-09-10, 01:48
Near the end, Yukito wanted to suicide but he was too scared of dying so in the end he dodged the train at the last sec
Leo_Otaku
2005-09-10, 01:48
My biggest gripe was the sheer number of pastel still shots - I understand they can be used for dramatic emphasis, but they were so abundant it started to feel more like budget constraints than anything else
Um if you didn't (which I don't think you do) know the director Osamu Dezaki has this going on in some of his other productions he directs. It has nothing to so with budget constraints...
TougeSil80
2005-09-10, 02:38
I loved this movie...actually I did a wallpaper on it
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7134/misuzuwallpaper4ki.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=misuzuwallpaper4ki.jpg)
Took some time though this is dedicated to it :), almost cried at the ending :( but seriously this is one of the best anime movie I've seen in a long time
Nice wallpaper. http://forums.animesuki.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Morisato
2005-09-10, 03:29
Oh yeah something I didn't understand... after Yukito called Misuzu a klutz and she got all sad, later she saw him playing with the little kids then he looks her way and they suddenly start talking and he helps her with the project?
evil-samurai
2005-09-10, 09:36
The Movie was Great, I have Mixed fellings for the Movie and the tv Show. I liked the animation, + Some of the Hand Draw Art was Fantastic well I think The Worst part would have to be ~when it suddenlly Changes to the *Past story. I didn't like Yukito Design that much, and his Character was better in the Tv show.
Onto Misuzu.
Misuzu, Character Design was Nice, Major Things I Noticed were
-Looked a fair bit older than the tv show
-Acted alot! more older & mature
-Expressed Feelings more in the Movie aka -- towards Yukito
And the Movie had alot more Romance in it at first I thought it was nothing big but they went all the way with it.
^^ Like I said...
This is a "A Seaside Love Story" by Ozamu-san. Not Air.
I'd have to Say the oposite to that, about it not being Air While sure some things didn't really connet as well, they only had 90 mins to play with, So certain events in the Show weren't as Dramatic. They still had the mother daugher realationship which was show very well there and the Misuzu & Yukito one which took a turn an s showed more of a romantic side to it, which I thought was done farily well.
*and the fact I hardly care for the Characters in past Story, was a plus for me since they really didn't get much time on screen
So I'll like to say the AIR feel was still ther for me :)
EDIT: Now about Misuzu Character Design, I swear I've seen it before... ah.. :heh: found it. http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3536/image3qwr116ow.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
nml
2005-09-17, 18:07
Are colors in this move in all version of subs so sucky gees i gave up after 5 min of watching cause those ugly colors made not wanting to watch more seriously this looks even worse then tv series , thats not thing to be excepted from dvd rips ... my thoughts based on xvid koi version havnt bothered with others to download so i ask hre are all vers have such ugly colors?
Rugal
2005-09-17, 20:48
@eveil samurai: That's why we have Air in Summer. Believe it or not. Many hardcore fans here like Misuzu in the movie by A LOT. But some of them raged for the change to Summer Arc, of course, Kanna. Misuzu is much better but Kanna is gone to worst. As you can see there is no one despite about Summer Arc in the movie at all. They even never took it as this is Kanna. They raged. Yes. After an amazing show in Ep8 and 9. They ask for more. Air in Summer represented what fans have lost from the movie and TV series and explain what Kanna's characteristic really is.
Summer Arc is there only to explain why Misuzu have to be as that... just that. I think if Osamu can choose, he may cut this part out to expand Misuzu's story...
If it should help, I think it should be 120 minutes movie from the beginning... well...
vlader
2005-09-19, 08:28
Just watched the movie today. It was nice in a sense. Also made me cry but not as much as the TV series did.
The movie somehow left a lot of blank spot in comparison to the TV series. I know I shouldn't be comparing the two as they are done seperately but I think the movie should be longer.
Anyway, I still think its wonderful specially Misuzu's romantic relationship with Yukito. It's the best part of the movie.
:) :) :)
takeshi88
2005-09-21, 02:57
I just watched it and thought it was great, but i didn't really understand the ending. Can someone pls explain to me thanks
milkmandan
2005-09-21, 07:06
did you want the series? i suggest you watch the series..or go read up on the final episode series disscussion. ;)
OshadowO
2005-09-22, 00:24
did you want the series? i suggest you watch the series..or go read up on the final episode series disscussion. ;)
this is a good suggestion. I saw the series after the movie and to be honest the series made a lot more snese after the movie because I knew a lot of what was going on. If I'd seen the anime first a second viewing would be reqd. for sure.
The movie itself was pretty good imo. Damn this whole series/movie almost made me cry. So sad :(
navi432001
2005-09-22, 16:10
I've had this movie saved on my computer for a while now finally had the time to watch it; would like to say that this movie puts the Air tv series in a shorter, easier to understanding, state. I fell in love with the art work and simply had to hold the tears at the end. :p
Sweetii-Dreamz
2005-11-27, 20:46
Okai, I downloaded the movie and I was so looking forward to watching it but to my amazement I noticed that the subtitles was in FRENCH !! I was so upset but I watched it n e ways it was sad (I can tell from pics) but I totally wish I knew the story about the winged gurl and the guy. (Some one tell me plz). It was sad that she got killed tho. I dunt understand why she was killed but yeah XP. Like the whole story was like blank to me because I don't understand what the hell they're saying. -_-' and i totally have no idea if the movie was good because I haven't watched the series but I thought that they made it too bright the sun blurrs some of the parts and they do that alot through out the movie. Is the series better then the movie?? and how long is the series??
Neaco
2005-11-27, 22:00
err French? Don't know where you're getting the movie from but the links on Animesuki's AIR page for the movie are all in English subs.
http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/468.html <- both series and movie links are here.
Many people agree the series is better. The movie never gets that indepth and rushes things somewhat, even tho it's condensed. Others liked the movie more, it's personal preference I guess. The series is only 12 eps (plus a recap at the end that is optional to watch). For the series, the animation some say is better than the movie's. You should check it out, then watch the movie again with eng subs :) While watching the series, keep seperate anything you saw from the movie, they're seperate versions of the story.
While the movie was released around the same time the series is aired in japan, many of us here (me included) watched the series first through the fansubs during the early part of this year. The movie was only released recently on dvd, which was fansubbed a few months ago.
It's of course up to you which to watch first, but I'm not going the spoil the story here, you should watch it for yourself :)
Rugal
2005-11-28, 21:15
Air was actually aired in January in Japan, and movie came up in Febuary.
The seires is much better than the Movie. Despite how Ozamu changed ALMOST everything that ... done for.
OK, I don't like the movie much. It's kinda "not good enough" new interpretation to me. However, I admitted that I like Misuzu's part in the movie more than in the series.
For ancient part, I don't talk about that one...
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:5nZpDdumQ3YJ:forums.animesuki.com/archive/index.php/t-37931.html
guuchan
2005-08-10, 05:10
Just watched it, and yes, it's time to rant about it.
(What I'm going to say is not really a spoiler so I won't use the spoiler tag, but don't read ahead if you want to watch without being affected by my opinion.)
First of all, the drawing. The drawing of TV version was amazing, while the movie's is... bleh. Misuzu looks all right, but I can't accept Haruko's, especially close-up ones. I was expecting the drawing of movie to be better than TV's, or at least as good, but obviously it didn't turn out so.
Second, the voicing. They're the same seiyuu as of the game's (PS2 version), but somehow the performance has gotten much worse. Misuzu's is a big disappointment --- even comparing to the TV's, which should be done around the same time, Misuzu sounds quite different in the movie. Yukito's (Midorikawa Hikaru, game's Yukito's seiyuu, whom I prefer over Ono Daisuke) is all right, but I still like his performance in the game much more. Hisakawa Aya did a fine job for Haruko, along with others who didn't appear much. (Surprisingly, Potato actually gets to "talk" for quite a bit, while Kano, Michiru and others only get to appear for a second, or even less.)
Storywise it's acceptable, with quite some changes here and there comparing to the original story. I think die-hard AIR fans will probably have something to say about it though.
"IF DREAMS CAME TRUE" is what I like most from this movie, and that's pretty much it.
Rugal
2005-08-10, 10:48
I gave Air the Movie for 7/10. It was being changed too much. Very much. Kanna is nothing but a... wait... ?
By talking more than this would be a complain and rant. (And I already did it on this board in Movie/ TV topic.)
I gave this Movie 7/10, that should hinted you something...
The only part I like is the picture you saw below. It made me cried ONCE and I think that I can live with my wife is truly is a happiness. We can live together and loving each other, that's the best I can do for my love one.
What I hate at most about the movie is...
(This is a rant! completely!)
Kanna is COMPLETELY differrent from what you seen in TV or game. She's now a "lonely" princess who being cursed not to love anyone but she really want to. Kanna fell in love with Ryuya since she saw him at first sight. The creators refused to show "blood" but allowed "boo...s" .Heck. This explained why there's no Summer scene in the preview. Kanna and Ryuya just... rinse, repeat, rinse repeat.... This Summer is nowhere near the Summer in original story. Sad? Yes. Very sad, but it made me think I just watching lonely princess and her forbidden love story with her young guardian.
I should've ranted about this long before but it'll spoiled things, so I decided not to.
outlaw97
2005-08-12, 01:10
How incredibly underwhelming.
I mean, it's good that they focused on just Misuzu instead of trying to cover everybody. And granted, I'm probably missing out since a lot of dialogue was beyond my comprehension, but everything just seemed so lackluster. The only reason scenes evoked emotions from me were because of my memories of the TV series.
Also, what were they doing with their budget? I don't know how much went into making this movie, but it looked like it all went into the ocean waves and scenery. My biggest gripe was the sheer number of pastel still shots - I understand they can be used for dramatic emphasis, but they were so abundant it started to feel more like budget constraints than anything else.
There were more lighthearted moments though, and I will say I like the ending scene a little more than its TV counterpart. I haven't played the game, so I'd be curious to know what changes were made in adapting it to the movie. *EDIT* Never mind, I see someone did just that in another thread.
Otherwise, I think the TV series just set the bar too high for me.
GokuJunior
2005-08-13, 05:45
Finally Air the movie has a release!!!
:D
aogaeru
2005-08-13, 05:59
Ah, I completely forgot about this. I briefly read the reviews given here, but hopefully it won’t taint my expectations too much… I’ll watch and report back. :)
Narumi
2005-08-13, 06:31
Hmm, time to change passwords... sorry for the inturruption :heh:
justsomeguy
2005-08-13, 11:34
Eien no Anime has released AIR the Movie (DVD Version). Enjoy.
...the size of the file is huge. :eyespin: How long was the movie?
Angelsama
2005-08-13, 12:29
How long was the movie?
The movie last's around 90 minutes long. ^^
AnimeOni
2005-08-13, 13:08
With all the hype and anticipation, I felt that the movie was a major letdown. It would rate it a 5/10. The story line kept on skipping some key scenes and it didn't flow really well. The animation was so-so (lot of static images). But in some cases, there was a lot of detail.
It looked like they spent a lot of money on the key frames and CG but everything else looked ... blah...
Hokomaneal
2005-08-13, 19:18
I'm pretty disappointed too... (to say the least :/). I only watched like 5 minutes of it... 'don't want to bother me before going to sleep...
The movie really is different from the TV show... (didn't play the game, so I don't know what's about it).
Voices (Yukito, at least), design (westernized? Misuzu eyes suck), story, pace ('seems like I'm watching the movie while fast forwarding), characters (Yukito seems like a drunkard), etc. this is just too much differences, especially as they are different in a worse way... :/
If it was like a side story, or something like that, that may have been acceptable... but if they just retell the TV show story, which is the case, if I understood well, it plainly sucks... I hate when there are differences between movies/tv show/books/games about the same "world". I just cannot accept the differences and I think it's pretty human.
Rugal
2005-08-13, 20:07
That's why I gave it 7/10. Only acceptable if you think this is something that ISN'T Air.
If yes, the Movie is watchable, even better for the last half part of the movie.
potatochobit
2005-08-13, 20:47
does the movie have a similar ending to the TV series... because i dont really want to watch it and have my temper flare up again for a week or two....
i prefer to be in a happy mood usually...
Shadow_Skill
2005-08-13, 23:30
Just finished watching it. Its now 4am GMT. :twitch:
I didn't think this movie was all that bad. Its more romantic than the TV version but not as funny.
What I liked about this movie was that the storyline was based on the "what if this happen instead" that did not happen in the TV version.
Hope that makes sense :confused:
For example
Haruko actually treating Misuzo how she should be treated from the start.
Kanna confessed her love for the bodyguard(forgot his name)
and Yukito and misuzo falling in love.
also Yukoto putting mizuzo's father in is place was entertaining :D
Only thing that was disappointing was the animation, but u eventually get used to it.(btw the animation is not worse than narutos korean company :eyespin: )
SO as an AIR fan who never played the game. I think think this film was ok, even tho its 1.36GB :)
Good nite
outlaw97
2005-08-13, 23:42
does the movie have a similar ending to the TV series... because i dont really want to watch it and have my temper flare up again for a week or two....
i prefer to be in a happy mood usually...
The movie has the same ending as the TV, but with one major change to make it more straightforward. I think if they did this ending in the TV, it would've eliminated a lot of debate over a couple points.
Ugh, I don't know if I want to download the subbed version having already seen the raw - it's already left a bad taste in my mouth, I doubt the pieces of dialogue I missed would redeem it.
Potato's cameo was a definite highlight though!
Rugal
2005-08-13, 23:52
In actually, Ryuya will never accept Kanna's love in the original as he thread her as his... daughter. Not that he doesn't love her. He just love her in very differrent way from what we see in Movie. It came to this because of the limitation of length, only 91 minutes and Summer Arc is around 12 minutes.
As you can see,
-Ryuya was much younger than we saw in the original one (arund 21-23) and and much more differrent. Ryuya in the game was such... quiet pervert and playboy-ish. Yet he did loyal to Kanna to his death like in the movie.
-Kanna is much older with her looks/ the way she act. Probably she's around 18 while Original Kanna is around 15 to 16 in the game. In fact I like Movie Kanna, but the way she acts disappointed me as she's a... dumb...
Kanna in the movie looks like the girl who can jump into anyone who she love since she was very "lonely" and that's because she was being confined for her entire life. She's very lonely, so fragile, wanting someone to love her and cure her for her loneliness. Being more straight of course. Crying, Crying, crying.
Kanna in the original one, was a girl who "pretend to be strong" yet she's very alone. She never act such thing because she must be "proud" and "honor" for what she is. Even that thing is useless to her and she never wanted it. Kanna in this one is more realistic as a character if you asked me.
Kanna in the movie was cursed not to love anyone (as you can see) but original doesn't. She only got those curses by touching her mother and it pass down to her by the death of her mother. So what you've seen in the first part of original summer, is, in fact, a normal girl.
Change the characters' names and look, then you got entire new story about Summer. Ryuya is young guardian and Kanna is a lonely princess, they fell in love but then Kanna's true purpose is what made it a tragic.
Plus. Ryuya in the Movie seems to be around 21 while he's around 27 in the original one. (In order to suits Kanna more in the movie. I think you don't want to see 27 yrs old girl loving with 16 yrs. old girl, I think?)
Not that I don't like the movie. It should be better than this.
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-14, 01:28
Oi, I'm dlin at 3kbps. Was the torrent this slow for you folks ever? The ratio is just crazy o_O
justsomeguy
2005-08-14, 02:25
...I've skimmed through the movie, will try to watch the whole thing tomorrow.
thoughts:
1) while the art is by no means bad, the faces were non-Key/VisualArts-ish. The faces were too round, and the eyes too small!
2) lots of lighting effects give a surreal atmosphere
3) the town seems much larger and more populated
4) this movie makes me appreciate the TV series even more than I already do.
Kamui4356
2005-08-14, 06:13
Well, I just finished watching the movie, and I have to say, it's just not AIR. Really it was pretty good, but as I said, it's not AIR. For the first half I was like ''wtf? That's not how it's supposed to go'', but eventually I reached a point that I could seperate it from AIR and actually enjoy it. :heh:
If I were to think of it in terms of AIR, I'd have to say it was a horrible hack job, while thinking about it independent of AIR it's actually quite good.
As for the animation, it seems like the budget for the movie was maybe 1/3 of the budget for a single episode of the tv series. I hope this shows what a horrible mistake it was to entrust this to someone other than kyoto animation...
GokuJunior
2005-08-14, 07:16
Oi, I'm dlin at 3kbps. Was the torrent this slow for you folks ever? The ratio is just crazy o_O
Yeah, this thing just doesn´t go up... is always between 3 KB/s and 5 KB/s and my maximum is around 60 KB/s... In a week I have it if this goes on :heh:
Tiberium Wolf
2005-08-14, 08:06
If u ppl are using the bt of Eien no Anime. Well when I started to download I checked it had 4 seeds and 800 pears. After a few hours it had 6 seeds and 2000 pears... I guess u see why it's slow! :P
Jeffrey Ruebel
2005-08-14, 10:05
It's probably just me but I thought the movie was good. It change the story around alittle but pretty much ended the same. And I like the character drawings better well every one but Haruko. I am glade they didn't put in the other character storys in the movie.
Rugal
2005-08-14, 11:20
People who love Misuzu will be OK with the movie since she took the main role...
While the others... Ugh... Like me. Kanna is there, but that isn't Kanna at all.
dgreater1
2005-08-14, 14:47
I guess, the game and the Anime set my standards too high ^_^, anyway... I think the movie was pretty good, they actually made it into a more romantic show. No problem with Yukito's voice since I've played the game before ^_^, but the way Haruko was drawn is a bit bother.... anyway, I guess I'm not that disappointed since I heard lots and lots of rumors that the movie script was totally different from the Anime and Game ^_^ so my mind was set to watching a totally different Air (like watching El Hazard), though I know what will happen to Misuzu... it still made me cry T_T
Maceart
2005-08-14, 16:19
Actually, I'll rate the movie just a little bit lower than the TV series. C'mon, it's from a completely different director (this time from the director of BlackJack) and the animation was taken care of by Toei animation. Besides, Key/Visual Arts already said that the story for AIR movie will be completely different.
What I did like about the movie is that they took one story and stuck with it, so it was a lot more clearer than the TV series.
I also liked the more mellow Yukito, although it seemed like he was drunk sometimes...
I also liked more emphasis on romance, since it brought more drama and less fantasy and mystical beings to the movie.
I did not like the cutscenes. Not cool at all.
TV rating: 9.5
Movie Rating: 8.9
Colonel-
2005-08-14, 16:57
The scene that really got me by surprise is the Sora scene, where he said "nihaha" and "V" to Yukito. I was dumbstruck for a second, then started chuckling :) And i was wondering why they made Keisuke to be such an asshole :confused:
If you consider the movie as a stand alone production and not compare it to the TV series or the original story, in my opinion, the movie itself is quite beautiful. The Aosora scene doesn't feel that powerful though for some reason, but nevertheless, it is a touching story with a bittersweet ending.
Magus IX
2005-08-14, 18:13
I, for one, loved the movie. Obviously the TV series is still in a class of its own, but I thought the movie made some interesting changes and worked out quite well, given the time & story constraints involved.
One of the things it might help to keep in mind while watching the film is its director. Osamu Dezaki is extremely revered and famous for having directed such diverse classic anime as Ashita no Joe, They Were 11 and Rose of Versailles. Perhaps because of this, the AIR movie features a style of directing that is fresh & modern, yet infused with old-school sensibilities.
The still frames aren't a sign of cheapness; they're just a stylistic choice, used to emphasize moments of high emotion. I guess they might seem startling to people because they aren't used (in that capacity) as frequently nowadays. Repeating a motion three times in rapid succession is also something you might see in older anime a lot (it's used very often in Oniisama E, for example).
I'm quite startled at those who have complained about the animation (as opposed to the artwork, which is a matter of taste--for the record, I didn't have any real problems with the new character designs). The animation itself is beautiful and engaging... I realize that we've all been spoiled by the AIR television series, but while the movie doesn't have Miyazaki-level animation, it's nevertheless a cut above the show.
Visually, I just found the movie to be incredibly impressive. It's stunningly beautiful, and inventive at that: I loved how the director exaggerated the fishbowl lens effect. The split-screen scenes were also interesting, and I thought the still frames were well chosen. Even the way shadows were cast & light was shown was fascinating.
As for the story changes, I liked some and disliked others. You win some, you lose some. I actually thought the movie's story was in certain ways less clear-cut than that of the TV show... they made the parallels between Misuzu's situation and Kanna's very obvious, but the connection was never stated outright, IIRC. It's also unfortunate that Kanna's role ended up being diminished (same goes for Uraha).
I really appreciated the Aozora scene....
It was almost vindicating, in a way, to see Misuzu coming toward both Yukito & Haruko.
Tiberium Wolf
2005-08-15, 02:29
They the story was nice... yet again i get depressed :mad:
Anyway what I didn't quite like was the light effects... God! It was shining everywhere!!! Even when Misuzu and Yukito was in that store to eat the fried egg was shining too!!!
I think the light effects were exaggerated.
Also the way they drawed Misuzu face made her look older. :twitch:
I like also when Sora imitated Misuzu... hehehe... "Nihaha!" & "V!" :eek: :D
andiyar
2005-08-15, 09:57
The movie was enjoyable - a pleasant enough way to spend ninety-odd minutes. It's not something that I'll rewatch for a while though - the TV series of Air I've watched through quite a few times since January.
I did enjoy the movie, but I had to keep reminding myself that it wasn't really Air. It was a bit too alien. Mind you, the romance story was fun - but I missed the seiyuu, and I especially missed the art style. It just isn't nearly as beautiful as the TV show.
-Andiyar
Magus IX
2005-08-15, 13:27
andiyar, wasn't only one seiyuu (Yukito's, IIRC) different?
andiyar
2005-08-15, 20:49
andiyar, wasn't only one seiyuu (Yukito's, IIRC) different?
Ah, my mistake. My sentence should have read "seiyuu & voices," being as I didn't like Misuzu's new voice very much, nor the differences in Kanna's. The seiyuu themselves are indeed the same, but the actual voices used for the characters are different. Notably Misuzu's voice - she sounds quite different to me, probably because of the 'maturation' changes made to her character. :)
Apologies for my lack of clarity. ^_^
Oh, and for the record, I did like some of the actual animation in the movie - noticeably the usage of split screens, but the difference in character design and artwork just threw me.
-Andiyar
Angelsama
2005-08-15, 21:28
I like the whole idea of the movie, the fact that its just the series, but with all the side stories taken out - and for me it improved with the story (to do with Yukito).
Glad to see that some of the voice cast from the series were there, especially Tomoko Kawakami as Misuzu again.. wow how Her voice just makes me melt!
Was pretty shocked by how much i like the art style too, in some ways it added more to the love style of the movie.
Just gotta wait for the Summer special now.. and wow i hope it gets subbed. ^^;
Rugal
2005-08-15, 23:12
The Movie is good when you think of Misuzu's part.
But for Summer. It's just... well... A forbidden love story and from where I lived, I've heard and read many tales like this.
The story was very romantic. Admitted.
She was cursed after she deeply fell in love with Ryuuya, her young guardian. one side of me said I should force myself to love it but... the Original summer forced me back as If... well... To think of it as a forbidden love story of human and god and a love story between a traveller and a girl in country town aren't all bad.
In fact, my wife love the movie more than TV series. Do you believe that?
They taken many things out to fit their 10-minutes role in the movie. Which is... well... acceptable.
7/10 is still there. Considered that the Movie was mediocre.
Leo_Otaku
2005-08-15, 23:46
I saw the movie last week raw. I thought is was alright. In the previews it seemed kind of better. The art style was alright. I'm not big on "man that art sucks so I won't watch it" people like that are so ignorant.
I liked that there was some kind of romance with Yukito and Misuzu. I wasn't fond of Ryuuya's charcter design. He looked really....not cool 0_o.
Over all I liked it. I would give it a 7 or 8 out of 10. I liked the Potato tv show XD.
Zakas
2005-08-16, 05:41
It made me cry all the same...(again~)
I thought it was pretty good..
Damn you sadness.
sugi
2005-08-16, 06:08
The movie wasn't so good like tv show .
Style of drawing was another ... bun not only another ,it was just worse.
The faces was diffrent , eyes ... even mouths . Colours was another .
So animators think , that will be better if they add more [SO MORE !!] effects.
Story was a little alternative , it focusing olny 'one' point of view .
But everything was like a 'dream' it wasn't so 'compact' like on tv .
voices are changed , they're qite ok .
Characters are similar , but misuzu and kanna looks (and acting) older .
Another characters from tv show (like kano , minagi ,potato :D ) was only on faaaar background .
I Think music wasn't so good . We can only hear the 'changed' theme from tv show ,
in the end the pice of aozora , but they don't create any new theme !!
I think the movie would be better when the music will better .
Air movie was little dissapointment , but not so bad (for me tv show was the best of anime i've watched , so i think the movie was a class lower than tv show . )
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Air S.special ic comming soon :D :D
NeoRagod
2005-08-16, 11:58
Yesterday, I recieved my Special Version of the movie. So for the first 10 minutes the movie was really odd as many of you said, but with the time passing i started to enjoy a little bit more, and yes, i really want a more lovely kanna, she was just strange for me. And Ryuuya ahgg, he really suck for me ¬¬, i prefer the summer arc of the tv series. But, in the other hand i really really really love the relationshio between mizusu and yukito, it was sooooo romatic (I want my own mizusu!!!! T_T ).and for me the movie mizusu was a little bit better than the tv series, because, it wasnt so childlish, the way she act was more reallisctic. Loved that.
In overall i will give the movia a 8, while the tv series is 9.5
mangafanatic
2005-08-16, 12:14
I guess I don't really know what I think of this movie yet. . .
Initially, I expected the movie to be a recap of the anime. When it wasn't I was rather shocked, so I know a great deal of the joy of the movie was taken away from me by that gnawing "That's not RIGHT!!" voice in my head. But once I could push past that annoyance, I sort of enjoyed the Misuzu arc presented in the movie. Rather than find acceptance from Yuukito in the final moments of his earthly existance, instead they get a real chance at open love. The sentimentalist in me was enthralled by this new angle to the story. (I especially enjoyed the final scene when he finds her in the temple. Very cute.)
Overall--
Anime: Exceptional.
Movie: Better than average. I suppose. :P
Khanate
2005-08-16, 12:33
Hum... I watched a bit before going ack into my cave mumbling 'not same story, animation not as good, bleh *mumble mumble*'
but i still want to watch so ill watch it in 2 weeks when i come back from vacation
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-16, 20:22
I have a question concerning one of the aspects of the ending though.
At the end, we see that Yukito is still alive riding the bus until the end, where the scene cuts it off and we see the baby dinosaur keychain that Misuzu had given to him previously. When he says, "By the way, If you ever see Misuzu, say Hello to me for her. I'll always be with her." At this point, I'm sort of left hanging to know whether or not Yukito gave his life to be with Misuzu and therefore we see the keychain. Or is it simply a shot of the momento that Misuzu gave Yukito to show it's significance?
Although, at the end, I do like how Yukito talks towards the audience, giving us a task. It makes me feel somewhat better, more fulfilled and yet I can't exactly explain it.
7/10 is still there. Considered that the Movie was mediocre.
It wasn't so much as mediocre. It's just the style and the approach it took was a bit different, but in the same way, it did appeal to viewers. Hell, it was enough to make some cry a second time again.
Misuzu
2005-08-16, 22:38
Alright Alright, Here's my point of view. When I first started watching it, I was so mad about the totally different type of art and characters. I was also bummed when Misuzu wasn't as... well... Umm ... "Dorkey-Cute", but then the story started to develop as I always wanted it to ^_^ (*Misuzu&Yukito*) and my mood changed drastically, and i started to get used to the crapy animation and think that a more "mature" and more straightforward Misuzu was better for the movie (I was also hoping the ending was gonna be different from the series T_T). But anyways, the movie was great from my point of view exept from all those animation and voice problems you all mentioned before but other than that.. I Loved It!
p.s.- ^^^^hey same avatar^^^^ =P
puzk
2005-08-17, 08:24
I don't know why you guys are complaining about the animation style. It seems like we've been too spoiled by the TV series.
The movie's animation was excellent, compared to other animated movies. Musicwise, it lacked significantly compared to the TV series.
The movie had a different theme compared to the TV series, more focusing on the 'romance' element compared to the 'mother & daughter' theme of the original TV series.
I really liked the romantic version of Mizusu... she seems to be more playful and cheerful.
Anyway the movie gave a simple and clear delivery of the complex story of AIR.
Top marks for that! I didn't have to go back and re-watch to understand what's going on.
Limiter
2005-08-17, 11:49
I like it, Misuzu seems more slightly grown. with a change of voice. I felt its just right.
Having events going differently that usual is new way of telling the story.
Angelsama
2005-08-17, 17:02
I really liked the romantic version of Mizusu... she seems to be more playful and cheerful.
Thats where all my love for the movie is coming from. She carries a lot more feelings for people in the movie - i love it!
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-17, 21:25
Can someone answer my question posted above at the spoiler -_-? I don't mean to sound picky and sorry if I do. I just wanted to know because I'm not that great at philosophy behind animes so the concepts are a bit hard to grasp like this one.
Rugal
2005-08-17, 22:02
To Forevergone:
At the end, we see that Yukito is still alive riding the bus until the end, where the scene cuts it off and we see the baby dinosaur keychain that Misuzu had given to him previously. When he says, "By the way, If you ever see Misuzu, say Hello to me for her. I'll always be with her." At this point, I'm sort of left hanging to know whether or not Yukito gave his life to be with Misuzu and therefore we see the keychain. Or is it simply a shot of the momento that Misuzu gave Yukito to show it's significance?
Isn't he riding the train?
No Yukito didn't gave his life to Misuzu. "Misuzu" was a memorable experience to him as he told to us audience for a whole time. At the end, he tell us that if you see one of...
"Various forms of Winged girl that could be nearby from you."
Osamu-san didn't think the curse has been lifted either. Who knows? In the movie they don't explains any details about the curse either. It's more like we saw a story of diseased girl instead of one many reincarnations of the demi-god being who being sealed in the sky since an ancient time.
Yukito kept it as his momento. It's much like we're one of the children who listening to the story of one old traveler that has been told to us. The story of a diseased girl who always compared herself to a princess in folktale, lived in seaside small town he met a long time ago.
All Misuzu want is to ease Kanna's pain. She believes that there is Kanna-hime in the sky.
Romantic? Yes. Very good for Misuzu's part. My wife loves it. But for Kanna's part was just a soap opera to me.
Very bad if compared to the original Summer...
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-17, 22:25
To Forevergone:
Isn't he riding the train?
No Yukito didn't gave his life to Misuzu. "Misuzu" was a memorable experience to him as he told to us audience for a whole time. At the end, he tell us that if you see one of...
"Various forms of Winged girl that could be nearby from you."
Osamu-san didn't think the curse has been lifted either. Who knows? In the movie they don't explains any details about the curse either. It's more like we saw a story of diseased girl instead of one many reincarnations of the demi-god being who being sealed in the sky since an ancient time.
Yukito kept it as his momento. It's much like we're one of the children who listening to the story of one old traveler that has been told to us. The story of a diseased girl who always compared herself to a princess in folktale, lived in seaside small town he met a long time ago.
All Misuzu want is to ease Kanna's pain. She believes that there is Kanna-hime in the sky.
Romantic? Yes. Very good for Misuzu's part. My wife loves it. But for Kanna's part was just a soap opera to me.
Very bad if compared to the original Summer...
Awesome. Thanks a bunch Rugal!
And also, Ryuuya looks way too funky in the movie. I think his appearance in the series in comparison to his in the movie is questionable, indeed.
Rugal
2005-08-17, 23:30
He was palnned to be Kanna's "wild, strange and a mere ruffian" guardian from the beginning. He suits that role perfectly since he was build from that idea. That's why there's no such a scene of his and Kanna in the original game.
The original theme of Kanna was "A girl who never been an adult and destined to dreaming forever". That's why there is none of such scenes. Imagine original 27-yrs-old Ryuya and 15 to 16 years old Kanna... They're more like father and daughter rather than a couples.
But in the movie. You need to build a character who really gave himself to love.
There he is. Around-21-yrs.-old-and-young Ryuya-dohno of the movie. He looks very fond and a bit cocky to suits his role he should do in the movie. Ryuya in the Movie and original was completely differrent characters. Imagine IF Ryuya in the original was in the movie and...
Ugh... that scared me a little bit.
For me Ryuya in the Movie look a bit cocky but well if we speaking of his role in it. It isn't bad. Not at all. The movie did changed Kanna's role to suits him and the story though.
ForeverGoNe
2005-08-18, 09:14
He was palnned to be Kanna's "wild, strange and a mere ruffian" guardian from the beginning. He suits that role perfectly since he was build from that idea. That's why there's no such a scene of his and Kanna in the original game.
The original theme of Kanna was "A girl who never been an adult and destined to dreaming forever". That's why there is none of such scenes. Imagine original 27-yrs-old Ryuya and 15 to 16 years old Kanna... They're more like father and daughter rather than a couples.
But in the movie. You need to build a character who really gave himself to love.
There he is. Around-21-yrs.-old-and-young Ryuya-dohno of the movie. He looks very fond and a bit cocky to suits his role he should do in the movie. Ryuya in the Movie and original was completely differrent characters. Imagine IF Ryuya in the original was in the movie and...
Ugh... that scared me a little bit.
For me Ryuya in the Movie look a bit cocky but well if we speaking of his role in it. It isn't bad. Not at all. The movie did changed Kanna's role to suits him and the story though.
Yea, that was what was bothering me a bit. But the way you explain it, I can see now. Ryuuya fits more of the role if hes that age to fulfill his position with Kanna in the movie. Whereas in the series, he really did look a bit more mature that way, so it was a bit qwerky when I saw this at first.
Nayuki
2005-08-19, 15:42
starting of the movie was somehow abit boring to me.. but after 10mins.. things started to get intresting... the movie was more to romance then the mother daughter love... but once again it made me cry again!!!... but wat i like about the movie was that its concentrated on misuzu and yukito... i would give a 9.5/10 to the series and 9.3/10 to the movie.. i enjoyed the movie... geez wonder how am i going to copy the movie to my cdr which is onli 700mb
Rugal
2005-08-19, 19:35
Yea, that was what was bothering me a bit. But the way you explain it, I can see now. Ryuuya fits more of the role if hes that age to fulfill his position with Kanna in the movie. Whereas in the series, he really did look a bit more mature that way, so it was a bit qwerky when I saw this at first.
Yes it should be that way. Changing:
Ryuya: 21 years old young, new, strong guardian who being sent to Kanna's palace.
Kanna: 18 to 19 years old lonely princess who being confined in the palace for entire life.
That's what happened in the movie. They were changed, completely, to match each other and the roles that was given to them.
Not that I don't like them. I LOVE them. I just hate the fact that my Summer Arc was being changed too much...
Well, it's time for taking care of my little Kanna now.
BYE.
sugi
2005-08-20, 14:20
geez wonder how am i going to copy the movie to my cdr which is onli 700mb
a)share file , and cerate 2 files
b) or rip file to rmvb
c)or buy dvd-rw ;)
XtAzY
2005-08-20, 17:20
i just finished watchin the movie a couple of minutes ago. Overall the movie was great, but the ending of the movie just doesnt really suits me well
I mean if your gonna think beyond da ending, with Yukito being alone for the rest of his life, it seems really sad to me. Mizusu is nothing but a loving memory in his head. It'll be funny if they decided to make some ova about a "what if yukito and mizusu actually lived together lol".. but that will ruin the point of the AIR series =p
Bokas
2005-08-29, 09:42
Need to hear reviews (Picture/sound/sub qualities) on Air Movie, either/both versions.
- Eien no Anime 's DVD version.
- Manhole-Fansubs' h.264 codec
Thanks in advance :)
ashibaka
2005-08-29, 14:51
Manhole Fansubs' version is very high quality, but I can't figure out if the aspect ratio is correct.
The sound is far superior and the sub quality is fine.
vvv Two separate releases. Both are 1.4GiB. So, I would say "no".
justsomeguy
2005-08-29, 18:48
I take it there is no way to shrink the file down to 700 without massive quality loss? I mean, this movie is the length of three tv episodes, and 233 was just fine for Air TV.
zalas
2005-08-29, 20:53
I take it there is no way to shrink the file down to 700 without massive quality loss? I mean, this movie is the length of three tv episodes, and 233 was just fine for Air TV.
That struck me as odd. The show didn't have that much resolution, although it did have a lot of extra motion introduced for theatrical effect.
ToshioRyu
2005-08-30, 16:57
How come EnA released a 2nd version to the Air Movie???????lol i haven't had time to watch it yet lol. But why a 2nd version? they found out how to make the file size smaller?
ObsidianZ
2005-09-02, 00:39
anyone know if koi is going to be subbing this?
AdawgDaFAB
2005-09-02, 21:25
Im also hoping that Koi does this and eventually the summer special, but out of the two now. Which is the best one? The Eien v2 or the Manhole one?
TougeSil80
2005-09-04, 01:37
I didn't think it was that bad. It's focusing more on Yukito and Misuzu's story, which I liked. But changing the Ryuuya and Kanna story sucks. Now the curse and Misuzu's illness doesn't seem to connect as well. And I agree that the AIR's magic is lost. For some reason, it just doesn't feel like AIR anymore.
Rugal
2005-09-04, 07:54
^^ Like I said...
This is a "A Seaside Love Story" by Ozamu-san. Not Air.
kmisuzu
2005-09-04, 20:45
Yay for Koi, their releases are available at http://tracker.kukaionline.com/ they should be linked from the animesuki index soon I think
koi
2005-09-04, 20:45
Im also hoping that Koi does this and eventually the summer special
Your hope has been answered. We have just released the movie (dvd rip) in two formats. The XviD version is made for better compatibility and also for slower computers. The H.264 version uses more advanced technology to fit the movie in one cd but won't play on slower machines and will also be tougher to play, in terms of compatibility.
To dispel any rumours, I will make it clear here. We are not dead and will be finishing the AIR specials, albeit in HDTV. We are just taking longer than usual because we don't have as much free time as we did last year in high school. However, you can be sure that we will get them out, eventually...
That said, personally, I do think that the movie does not have as much appeal as the TV series did, mainly because the movie had a rushed plot and sudden resolution. There is also the time limitation that prevented the movie from developing any of the characters. As a result, I did not feel as much affection for Misuzu and Kanna as I did in the TV series.
justsomeguy
2005-09-05, 09:15
The H.264 version uses more advanced technology to fit the movie in one cd but won't play on slower machines and will also be tougher to play, in terms of compatibility.
Can anybody recommend a free codec for H.264?
andiyar
2005-09-05, 19:24
Can anybody recommend a free codec for H.264?
VideoLanClient (http://www.videolan.org/).
-Andiyar
wwenze
2005-09-06, 03:35
How come EnA released a 2nd version to the Air Movie???????lol i haven't had time to watch it yet lol. But why a 2nd version? they found out how to make the file size smaller?
I watched v1 but re-downloaded v2 for archiving thinking it would be better,
and true enough, the font is much better in v2. In v1 I was straining my eyes trying to read it on TV, in the end watch on com instead. There should be other changes too, like a few typo which I noticed in v1.
But now that Koi's is out, going to download it instead since I have their TV part, and they throw in a lot of useful information (including the part when they apologized for mixing up the gender of "that child" -> didn't play the game b4?)
Will compare AV quality after I finish downloading. :)
Transparent
2005-09-06, 10:56
This is wierd, I have both versions of the Koi release, and I can't get the audio to play correctly. H.264 runs fine on my machine, but it seems that some of the speech can't be played?
I've tryed the CoreAAC codec and it still didn't work. Has this happened for anyone else?
Diedrupo
2005-09-06, 22:08
I finally watched it and personally I thought it was great. Sure it's not really like the Air game or tv series, but when you make a movie adaption, of course it's going to be different, and I thought they did it fairly well. It managed to capture the essence of Air and also add a romantic touch that was missing from the tv series.
Skuld
2005-09-07, 03:14
Wow, I rather enjoyed it. It made me pop in my Re-feel CD again right after.
- I was happy to hear Midorikawa Hikaru again as Yukito. Yays~
- The BGM wasn't too impressive.
- I liked how they covered both sides by having the two stories told parallel with each other.
And as always... the disadvantage of movies is that everything had to be compressed into the 1 1/2 hours, making it feel a bit rushed. Besides the mentioned, I liked the change for the movie.
Angelhalo
2005-09-07, 04:28
This is wierd, I have both versions of the Koi release, and I can't get the audio to play correctly. H.264 runs fine on my machine, but it seems that some of the speech can't be played?
I've tryed the CoreAAC codec and it still didn't work. Has this happened for anyone else?
I've been trying to d/l it for 2 days already, and non have reach 100 mb for some reason. Torrents for other stuff that i download are working fine. I wonder what went wrong :(
ViVi_bOi
2005-09-07, 05:41
*Added Air - Movie into the Fansubs Comparison*
K. Yamato
2005-09-08, 14:44
I loved this movie...actually I did a wallpaper on it
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7134/misuzuwallpaper4ki.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=misuzuwallpaper4ki.jpg)
Took some time though this is dedicated to it :), almost cried at the ending :( but seriously this is one of the best anime movie I've seen in a long time
Morisato
2005-09-10, 01:48
Near the end, Yukito wanted to suicide but he was too scared of dying so in the end he dodged the train at the last sec
Leo_Otaku
2005-09-10, 01:48
My biggest gripe was the sheer number of pastel still shots - I understand they can be used for dramatic emphasis, but they were so abundant it started to feel more like budget constraints than anything else
Um if you didn't (which I don't think you do) know the director Osamu Dezaki has this going on in some of his other productions he directs. It has nothing to so with budget constraints...
TougeSil80
2005-09-10, 02:38
I loved this movie...actually I did a wallpaper on it
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7134/misuzuwallpaper4ki.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=misuzuwallpaper4ki.jpg)
Took some time though this is dedicated to it :), almost cried at the ending :( but seriously this is one of the best anime movie I've seen in a long time
Nice wallpaper. http://forums.animesuki.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Morisato
2005-09-10, 03:29
Oh yeah something I didn't understand... after Yukito called Misuzu a klutz and she got all sad, later she saw him playing with the little kids then he looks her way and they suddenly start talking and he helps her with the project?
evil-samurai
2005-09-10, 09:36
The Movie was Great, I have Mixed fellings for the Movie and the tv Show. I liked the animation, + Some of the Hand Draw Art was Fantastic well I think The Worst part would have to be ~when it suddenlly Changes to the *Past story. I didn't like Yukito Design that much, and his Character was better in the Tv show.
Onto Misuzu.
Misuzu, Character Design was Nice, Major Things I Noticed were
-Looked a fair bit older than the tv show
-Acted alot! more older & mature
-Expressed Feelings more in the Movie aka -- towards Yukito
And the Movie had alot more Romance in it at first I thought it was nothing big but they went all the way with it.
^^ Like I said...
This is a "A Seaside Love Story" by Ozamu-san. Not Air.
I'd have to Say the oposite to that, about it not being Air While sure some things didn't really connet as well, they only had 90 mins to play with, So certain events in the Show weren't as Dramatic. They still had the mother daugher realationship which was show very well there and the Misuzu & Yukito one which took a turn an s showed more of a romantic side to it, which I thought was done farily well.
*and the fact I hardly care for the Characters in past Story, was a plus for me since they really didn't get much time on screen
So I'll like to say the AIR feel was still ther for me :)
EDIT: Now about Misuzu Character Design, I swear I've seen it before... ah.. :heh: found it. http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3536/image3qwr116ow.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
nml
2005-09-17, 18:07
Are colors in this move in all version of subs so sucky gees i gave up after 5 min of watching cause those ugly colors made not wanting to watch more seriously this looks even worse then tv series , thats not thing to be excepted from dvd rips ... my thoughts based on xvid koi version havnt bothered with others to download so i ask hre are all vers have such ugly colors?
Rugal
2005-09-17, 20:48
@eveil samurai: That's why we have Air in Summer. Believe it or not. Many hardcore fans here like Misuzu in the movie by A LOT. But some of them raged for the change to Summer Arc, of course, Kanna. Misuzu is much better but Kanna is gone to worst. As you can see there is no one despite about Summer Arc in the movie at all. They even never took it as this is Kanna. They raged. Yes. After an amazing show in Ep8 and 9. They ask for more. Air in Summer represented what fans have lost from the movie and TV series and explain what Kanna's characteristic really is.
Summer Arc is there only to explain why Misuzu have to be as that... just that. I think if Osamu can choose, he may cut this part out to expand Misuzu's story...
If it should help, I think it should be 120 minutes movie from the beginning... well...
vlader
2005-09-19, 08:28
Just watched the movie today. It was nice in a sense. Also made me cry but not as much as the TV series did.
The movie somehow left a lot of blank spot in comparison to the TV series. I know I shouldn't be comparing the two as they are done seperately but I think the movie should be longer.
Anyway, I still think its wonderful specially Misuzu's romantic relationship with Yukito. It's the best part of the movie.
:) :) :)
takeshi88
2005-09-21, 02:57
I just watched it and thought it was great, but i didn't really understand the ending. Can someone pls explain to me thanks
milkmandan
2005-09-21, 07:06
did you want the series? i suggest you watch the series..or go read up on the final episode series disscussion. ;)
OshadowO
2005-09-22, 00:24
did you want the series? i suggest you watch the series..or go read up on the final episode series disscussion. ;)
this is a good suggestion. I saw the series after the movie and to be honest the series made a lot more snese after the movie because I knew a lot of what was going on. If I'd seen the anime first a second viewing would be reqd. for sure.
The movie itself was pretty good imo. Damn this whole series/movie almost made me cry. So sad :(
navi432001
2005-09-22, 16:10
I've had this movie saved on my computer for a while now finally had the time to watch it; would like to say that this movie puts the Air tv series in a shorter, easier to understanding, state. I fell in love with the art work and simply had to hold the tears at the end. :p
Sweetii-Dreamz
2005-11-27, 20:46
Okai, I downloaded the movie and I was so looking forward to watching it but to my amazement I noticed that the subtitles was in FRENCH !! I was so upset but I watched it n e ways it was sad (I can tell from pics) but I totally wish I knew the story about the winged gurl and the guy. (Some one tell me plz). It was sad that she got killed tho. I dunt understand why she was killed but yeah XP. Like the whole story was like blank to me because I don't understand what the hell they're saying. -_-' and i totally have no idea if the movie was good because I haven't watched the series but I thought that they made it too bright the sun blurrs some of the parts and they do that alot through out the movie. Is the series better then the movie?? and how long is the series??
Neaco
2005-11-27, 22:00
err French? Don't know where you're getting the movie from but the links on Animesuki's AIR page for the movie are all in English subs.
http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/468.html <- both series and movie links are here.
Many people agree the series is better. The movie never gets that indepth and rushes things somewhat, even tho it's condensed. Others liked the movie more, it's personal preference I guess. The series is only 12 eps (plus a recap at the end that is optional to watch). For the series, the animation some say is better than the movie's. You should check it out, then watch the movie again with eng subs :) While watching the series, keep seperate anything you saw from the movie, they're seperate versions of the story.
While the movie was released around the same time the series is aired in japan, many of us here (me included) watched the series first through the fansubs during the early part of this year. The movie was only released recently on dvd, which was fansubbed a few months ago.
It's of course up to you which to watch first, but I'm not going the spoil the story here, you should watch it for yourself :)
Rugal
2005-11-28, 21:15
Air was actually aired in January in Japan, and movie came up in Febuary.
The seires is much better than the Movie. Despite how Ozamu changed ALMOST everything that ... done for.
OK, I don't like the movie much. It's kinda "not good enough" new interpretation to me. However, I admitted that I like Misuzu's part in the movie more than in the series.
For ancient part, I don't talk about that one...