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theprophecy247
2003-12-12, 14:17
does anyone know where i can find the manga for hajime no ippo
www.snoopycool.com They've been doing a great job on Hajime no Ippo manga of late. Also check out Houshin Engi and Yakitate! Japan while you're there. I previously read stickrezo's Houshin Engi and got stranded at vol 6 (-_-) so I'm really glad someone decided to take up the project.
smellybutton
2004-02-01, 12:23
Who wants to find out what happens to Ippo and everyone else after the Kimura vs. Mashiba fight? I do, and I'm sure so do many others. Please post if anyone has any info. <=)
There's no English manga to be bought because Ippo isn't licensed yet in an English-speaking country. However you can read Ippo scanslations up to volume 21 (just before the fight with Date) at www.snoopycool.com.
smellybutton
2004-02-01, 14:51
...I guess we'll have to wait till then. Thanks again.
There's no English manga to be bought because Ippo isn't licensed yet in an English-speaking country. However you can read Ippo scanslations up to volume 21 (just before the fight with Date) at www.snoopycool.com.
You sound so grateful. It's overwhelming.
Does anyone know if the manga continued on after the tv series finished....if so where can i get it??
Yes, it does continue. And also http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=87192
You sound so grateful. It's overwhelming.
I appreciate it! I appreciate it like you wouldn't BELIEVE! Please continue scanlating, and I'll continue supporting! Yoroshiku! :D
Barra_167
2004-03-10, 12:42
:confused: Hajime NO IPPO Manga? Does any one know where I can down load the Hajime NO iPPO Manga if it hasn't been licensed?
Snoopy Cool did the translation but the japanese publishers requested that all the work of Kodansha was removed from his website.
I don't remember if they still translate it on irc thought.
Barra_167
2004-03-10, 12:54
Snoopy Cool did the translation but the japanese publishers requested that all the work of Kodansha was removed from his website.
I don't remember if they still translate it on irc thought. Yeah I know that they canceld it on their web site, I have been looking on mirc but couldn't find it, so I thought maybe another website might have it. Thanxs for the info.....
SirCanealot
2004-03-11, 09:52
They're still working on it I hear, but the last time I checked out their Irc chan 'serves with Ippo on were more or less non-existant....
We still do it, it's just not downloadable from the site directly like the other projects for reasons posted above. As for why people aren't serving it, I haven't the slightest clue...
:help:
SirCanealot
2004-03-12, 13:10
Where the hell is your 100000000000000000000000000000000000mbit XDCCs? Bums.
Oh well, maybe I'll put up a slow ass F-Serve with what I have of it on if no one is serveing it the next time I can be bothered to check your chan.... :P
I store it in my ass and use it to serve porn.
We still do it, it's just not downloadable from the site directly like the other projects for reasons posted above. As for why people aren't serving it, I haven't the slightest clue...
:help:
I was wondering, are you guys still going to distribute it to everyone or are you guys just translating it for your own use? *crossfinger*
snoopy- " of course we going to let everyone get it once we finish translating it. :)"
Why would I translate it for myself when I can already read it...?
DUH!!! *hit head* Wohoo :)
Hey Snoopy, which Ippo chapter are you working....? It stopped (site) in the 7th chapter of volume 22 right??
Um... I'm working on volume 29, but the latest release is 22-7.
Teh Roman Helmet
2004-04-01, 09:33
snoopy, where is your irc channel? #snoopycool on irc.highway.net doesn't have anybody there, just one person sometimes, although it looks like there is some kind of channel set up there. I really want to read the Hajime no Ippo manga, as the anime is my favorite anime. So good. MMMMMM. Or do you know where to dl this stuff.
SirCanealot
2004-04-01, 13:20
You must've checked the wrong network. I just checked now, there's plenty of people there.
TechnoMage
2004-04-01, 13:24
Try irc.irchighway.net for the server. Didn't know that highway.net was a network, actually (Never worked when I typed it wrong >.>)
Thank you for releasing all that Ippo today Snoopy.. I about had a heart attack when I saw it on manganews. :)
I aim to please. :naughty:
Oh really? I guess I'll have to come get it off the channel somewhere along the line. Maybe later tonight when the rush dies down. Or whenever I feel like it.
Spooky-Electric
2004-04-01, 23:57
Awesome! I just saw all the new Ippo released as well. I'm definitely going to have to stop by IRC tonight.
Snoopycool rawks!
whatever123
2004-04-02, 15:35
thanx snoopy for the huge update :)
SirCanealot
2004-04-04, 05:50
Yup, great stuff. I'll have to fill in the chapters I'm missing and get reading again.
Thanks a lot, Snoopy!
I watched all the anime and now i want to follow to story tru the manga but i was wondering from where i should buy it to pick up where the anime left off
tia
whatever123
2004-10-01, 08:53
if you have watched the anime plus the movie and ova just go to www.snoopycool.com
just begin in chapter 315 (but be warned some of the small details are different from the anime)
if you have watched the anime plus the movie and ova just go to www.snoopycool.com
just begin in chapter 315 (but be warned some of the small details are different from the anime)
thnx! care to fill me in on the details? :D
whatever123
2004-10-01, 11:10
thnx! care to fill me in on the details? :D
actually they never had any influence on the plot, out of the top of my head... there was this sparring matches before the sendo fight were ippo knocked down a couple of contenders in higher weights, there was also some reference to mike tyson earlier in the series
sorry :heh: its been a long time since i read them hopefully some other people who have a better memory than i can help
Someone made a few more notes here: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=325676#post325676
But there are many more things besides that were changed in the anime. For example in the anime, I don't think they ever explain why Kumi went to watch Miyata's match, etc. It doesn't make much difference to the plot, but if you consider yourself a true Ippo fan, you should go over and read it from volume 1.
watched the anime twice, dont really feel like reading it all too ;D
Takes way less time to read it unless you can't read...
Anyone know where to get volume 32+? Snoopy doesn't host it on their site anymore. ck-money on irc is missing volume 32 through 36.
Spanky (our semi-official xdcc bot) should have everything packed by the volume. I also think Debe has all of the Ippo we've released so far, but I'm not sure...
Nine Devil
2004-11-07, 09:41
Damn Takamura's look at the end was awesome. He is a Devil!
Speaking of Takamura, he recovered pretty quickly from finding that creature in his poop. I thought he'd be paranoid for a while, but he got over it in a number of pages. Note to self: don't read chapter 358 while eating. -_-
I'm looking forward to his world title challenge, and even beyond, but I'm kinda scared about his weight. I mean he even has to struggle to stay in middleweight range. Junior middleweight, is he trying to commit suicide? :upset:
There's nothing cooler than when Takamura finally loses it. Really, the next 3 volumes are probably my very favorite Ippo volumes in the entire series, just 'cause you learn SO much about a character that really hasn't been fleshed out at all (and I didn't even realize how little I knew about him until they started getting into what makes him tick).
ShikaShika
2004-11-07, 19:06
After reading volume 40, I have to pay my gratitude to you snoopy. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard from reading anything before... I want to thank you and everyone involved, keep up the good work! ;)
Does anyone know if Hajime no Ippo has been licenced and released in english?
Does anyone know if Hajime no Ippo has been licenced and released in english?
While the anime has been licensed by Geneon (60 of 75 eps have been released on 12 DVDs so far) there's no sign of the manga being licensed yet.
Haohmaru
2006-06-24, 15:52
I don't know if this question has been asked before but how much does the anime cover? Ie, wich chapter do I start reading when I complete the anime?
ShadowClone
2006-06-25, 07:08
I believe it has been asked before :)
Anyway, the anime ends after "Lollapalooza", and that's about Volume 30 in the manga. There were two OVAs released after that (Ippo's 1st title defense and Kimura's challenge for the J. Lightweight title vs. Mashiba). If you've likewise seen that, then start at around Volume 33 of the manga.
Haohmaru
2006-06-26, 19:12
Oke thanks for the info ShadowClone. I really loved the anime, I hope the manga is good too.
Nightengale
2006-07-22, 22:38
Jimmy got handed over. Ippo - 1, OPBF - 0
Let's see now....one down, 14 to go. This is going to be one long arc. Ippo's gonna be like....30 before he fights Miyata, much less Ricardo at this rate.
For some reason, I think miyata turned down the fight because he figured that Ippo would lose all motivation/retire once he fought him (he was right). So he turned down the direct route to their fight and risked the whole cancellation hoping that Ippo would find his own motivation and fight him another way...that or he couldn't make weight =\
You give Miyata too much credit. He's a punk. :mad:
a_nevels666
2006-07-23, 07:25
For some reason, I think miyata turned down the fight because he figured that Ippo would lose all motivation/retire once he fought him (he was right). So he turned down the direct route to their fight and risked the whole cancellation hoping that Ippo would find his own motivation and fight him another way...that or he couldn't make weight =\
Doubtful, it's way more like to have something to do with that guy he saw in the audience.
animernq
2006-07-24, 07:35
Let's see now....one down, 14 to go. This is going to be one long arc.
Is the one down Japan?
FYI the OPBF is made up of the following countries:
Australia, Fiji, Guam, Hawaii (USA), Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Mongolia, New Zealand, Philippines, PAMA (Professional Association of Martial Arts, representing boxers from several Asian republics of the former USSR), Republic of China, Samoa, Thailand and Tonga.
PAMA sounds interesting.
Doubtful, it's way more like to have something to do with that guy he saw in the audience.
I agree. If this guy is the Interim Champion then Miyata will have to fight him before he fights Ippo. If Miyata believes that he won't win this match this might explain why he cancled his match with Ippo.
Snubben_Pierre
2006-09-25, 09:59
Ive searched around but i cant seem to find what volume i should start reading after ive seen the anime.. Any1 know ? or can help me find it? I would appreciate it very much.
hi no ken Jebus
2006-09-25, 10:25
It was somewhere around the 30s iirc. I think around 33 or so was the mashiba vs kimura OVA but not totally sure.
Snubben_Pierre
2006-09-25, 10:45
It was somewhere around the 30s iirc. I think around 33 or so was the mashiba vs kimura OVA but not totally sure.
okay thanks, guess ill have to look through from 30 and on.. :)
Nightengale
2006-09-25, 19:31
Is the one down Japan?
FYI the OPBF is made up of the following countries:
Australia, Fiji, Guam, Hawaii (USA), Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Mongolia, New Zealand, Philippines, PAMA (Professional Association of Martial Arts, representing boxers from several Asian republics of the former USSR), Republic of China, Samoa, Thailand and Tonga.
PAMA sounds interesting.
I agree. If this guy is the Interim Champion then Miyata will have to fight him before he fights Ippo. If Miyata believes that he won't win this match this might explain why he cancled his match with Ippo.
Nope.
Thailand's Jimmy Sisfa the one down. Ippo is his own nation's respective champion, so other than the eventual Ippo vs Miyata (( IT WILL HAPPEN EVEN...SOMEDAY..maybe in 30 volumes time )).
And considering the interim champion isn't the Mystery Man, it's probably something else.
animernq
2006-09-27, 12:34
Nope.
Thailand's Jimmy Sisfa the one down. Ippo is his own nation's respective champion, so other than the eventual Ippo vs Miyata (( IT WILL HAPPEN EVEN...SOMEDAY..maybe in 30 volumes time )).
And considering the interim champion isn't the Mystery Man, it's probably something else.
Technically its two down because Ippo is the Champion in two countries.
Regarding Miyata's match if Miyata wins he may rechallenge Ippo. If he wins but does not rechallenge Ippo then there may be a specific reason why he does not want to fight Ippo yet.
The last post for this fantastic manga was around 6 or 7 months ago but I wanted to bring it back to the top of the list even if only for a day or two simply because it is underappreciated in the face of some of the crap out there that passess for manga. it is a sports manga that centers around a guy named Ippo and his friends who are boxers. But the manga is rife with humor, character development and generally good writing. it spans 78 official volumes at present and enough chapters for 2 more and it can take a couple of months to read and digest all of it. you will find yourself rereading volumes and really sympathising with characters. for those of you who say you hate boxing, give this manga a try, in 10 tanks you will be hooked, in 20 you will wanna watch boxing on espn by 78 you will consider yourself a fan. This is a great and adictive series and if I can spread the word to just one more person then it is worth it. This is an unliscened manga so at present it is legal to download read etc online and I strongly encourage you to do so. Other mangas I have read are as good a story or have better art but few can take you on such a long journey and keep the characters and plot fresh and interesting.
ippo is an excellent shounen manga
i've always preferred sports based shounen over those with magical elements and really, hajime no ippo takes the cake.
i also like reading how he trains as well as the different moves that boxing entails. I have my doubts over several other issues raised in the manga (namely one of them is i think the mangaka is somewhat racist) but overall its a pretty good read.
Bandersnatch
2007-04-12, 20:49
I have been obsessed with this manga since I started reading it. Downloaded the first couple volumes and started reading, then ordered the anime from netflix, then got the ps2 games lol. One day was like...
Read full volume
Watched 3 episodes
Played the game
Watched 2 episodes
Read full volume
Played the game
I have toned it down a bit since I realized that :p. I have read up to volume 25 so far.
My favorite fights have been: Miyata vs. Jimmy, Sendo vs. Vorg, Ippo vs. Mashiba, Ippo vs. Ponchai (DEMPSEY ROLL!!! :D).
I thought the Kobashi vs. Ippo fight was kind of dull, though it was so close, everything would of gone differently for Ippo if Kobashi decided to go for points instead of the knockout. He would be a nobody if Kobashi hadn't gone for the KO :p.
ShikaShika
2007-04-13, 03:54
My favorite fights have been: Miyata vs. Jimmy, Sendo vs. Vorg, Ippo vs. Mashiba, Ippo vs. Ponchai (DEMPSEY ROLL!!! :D).
I thought the Kobashi vs. Ippo fight was kind of dull, though it was so close, everything would of gone differently for Ippo if Kobashi decided to go for points instead of the knockout. He would be a nobody if Kobashi hadn't gone for the KO :p.
Favourite fight so far:
Takamura's first World Title challenge, it was pure awsomeness.
Ippo vs Date eji it was good to see a main character that wasn't invincible but who could make a comback when he did take the title from Sendou it was just that much sweeter
Ippo vs Take Keichi the guy used every trick in the book and dragged the fight out for 6 rounds i got really tired of him.
ShadowClone
2007-04-16, 11:56
I also appreciate the fact that the mangaka is consistent with his story and doesn't leave too many plot holes. A good example of this one was the
cancellation of the "destined rubber match" between Ippo and Miyata. Miyata's original dream/goal of being a boxer (referred to in the 20s volumes) was brought up again, and shown as a good justification for the cancellation of his fight with Ippo
jordo_99
2007-05-22, 03:08
first off, I'm fairly new to IRC. I've been using is as little as possible for the last year because of bit torrents, but finally I have a reason to use it again.
I can connect to the irc.irchighway.net server but when I join the #snoopycool channel it's empty...any ideas?
Also, if anybody can send the manga (I'm only looking for what isn't in the anime) to me that'd be freaking awesome! Just send me a PM or something if you can help. I'll also be checking this every couple days just in case I get a responce but it seems to be pretty dead.
animernq
2007-05-24, 16:54
I'm up to chapter 772 and I think the current fight is the most interesting, mainly because of the way Ippo's opponent is fighting.
onepiecelover
2007-07-17, 09:56
I absoulety love this manga, I am upto 40 volumes and I am half done with the story and its still going on. Anyone else know if Ippo ever becomes the world champ, cuz I really dont want to see the rest of the volumes filled up with figts not concerning Ippo :(
ShadowClone
2007-07-17, 10:08
Yep, Volume 40 is just right about the half-way point...of the published manga that is! :heh:
It's still currently going strong and as for your question regarding Ippo:
He's STILL a long way from becoming a world champion. Right now, he's focusing on being the "unofficial" OPBF champion by trying to beat all the national featherweight champions in the region. This is probably to get himself back on track for a match with Miyata, who has his own "battle of destiny" awaiting him...and it's NOT with Ippo either!
there are tons of fights in the next 40 volumes, some non ippo some ippo and a lot of story about everything else in between. If you think about you average manga that sputters out long before even 30 volumes Ippo is really a great story in that we have seen so much character development and change.
EvolutionXI
2007-07-17, 19:40
I absoulety love this manga, I am upto 40 volumes and I am half done with the story and its still going on. Anyone else know if Ippo ever becomes the world champ, cuz I really dont want to see the rest of the volumes filled up with figts not concerning Ippo :(
There are fights involving Ippo, but there are good ones that don't involve him too. For example:
Takamura's world title matches (We don't get to see any serious fights of his in the anime, he just owned everyone in Japan.)
...and you'd also be missing out on all the hilarious situations that happen.
Having said all that, I think the manga is definitely dragging on at this point. I never thought I'd say that about Ippo of all things, but if it ended soon I wouldn't mind at all.
If you are like me the main reason it is dragging on is that you didn't find it until 60 or so volumes had come out letting you read them all at once (very few series over 30 volumes much less at 80) and waiting for my weekly fix of ippo is.... slow going to say the least, especially after being able to read so much all at once.
gonzo562
2008-01-07, 02:39
i really enjoy this manga 84 volumes and almost 20 years of work.
i wish they would make a 2nd season of the hajime no ippo.
also i wish they would increase the pace of this anime or or make each chapter long.
i dont see this manga ending anytime soon.
ippo is just starting to make his world title run
thier the class a tournament for itagaku, aoki and the rest.
and thier still the ichiro vs randy boy junior fight which will probably last a few volumes
Since i can't read japanese i would really like it if Tokyopop or Dark Horse to license it. So i can buy the volumes in english. (not viz, they censure too much)
But do you think there is a possibility that they WOULD still do that? It's such an "old" serie now...
Hell, maybe i'll even buy them if they were dutch :heh:
Tiamat's Disciple
2008-05-20, 22:39
You'll have to make do with scanlations since this will never be licensed. To big a risk for a publisher to take on, especially since the anime flopped big time.
Some one may license the first arc, though i cant see it happening.
Miles Teg
2008-05-21, 14:16
You'll have to make do with scanlations since this will never be licensed. To big a risk for a publisher to take on, especially since the anime flopped big time.
I know that the French market of manga is quite special but an editor (and not one of the bigger) has licensed Hajime no Ippo and is releasing one volume a month (volume 10 has been released last week). So it's still possible that an American publisher could do the same.
kenjiharima
2008-05-21, 15:43
My God! 10 volumes out of almost 50 mangas XD
yezhanquan
2008-05-21, 19:29
The series is 800++ chapters. Man, it's gonna take a while.
Nervous Venus
2008-05-22, 13:33
First off, I hope I'm not the only girl in this thread >>;;;; ,
Secondly, I haven't actually read the manga yet. I'm barely at ep 55, when Ippo challenges Date Eiji for the featherweight champion belt.
Just wondering if the anime follows the manga closely?
and also if it does, where/which chapter does the manga pick up after the anime ends???
Miles Teg
2008-05-22, 14:32
The anime cover up to volume 30, the OAV is volume 31 and 32 and the movie volume 33 to 35.
The anime follow the manga really closely, if you only watch the anime you can continue with the manga without missing anything.
Yaoi_Daisuki
2008-09-02, 12:20
OMG . . im so dissapointed. Why is hajime no ippo thread so short?!?!?!
freak, u know i always hate the 80s manga drawing style, but its just last week that i was so dam dead bored and i read up 2 chapters of hajime no ippo.
not kidding, within the next 4 days i complete the reading up to the latest chap (800+++), it was so entertaining, i entered into the lone world and totally severed the ties with the reality world during the 4 days.
now i could truly understand the reason why even with the older styles drawing it could be still continue its serialization in the jump weekly.
i really opened my eyes now, i gonna start reading into storylines instead of blindly looking at those modern manga arts.
p.s incase anyone had mistaken, hajime no ippo had excellent drawing, just with an older style. the modern drawing style now is much more simplified and easier to draw especially the cant be bothered background style
kenjiharima
2008-09-02, 15:22
Good story telling and colorful balanced characters.
Who's gonna win? RBJ or Miyata?
Sawamura said Miyata will have a hard time beating RBJ.
cloak_and_dagger
2008-09-02, 16:21
YES!!! Ippo fans! to agree with YD, I read all chapters in a smilar span of time. Ippo is IMO the BEST sports manga out ther(better than Slam Dunk, Eyeshield 21 and Wild Striker)
And the question someone asks every 10 seconds: Why didnt it get animated past ep 77? There is a petitio onilne with like 1 million i think. I know that just viewrship isn't enough to drive a series to be animated, esp since most of those petitioners are Western viewers.
But WHY!?!? T_T (i'm a fan I still have the right to whine)
Yaoi_Daisuki
2008-09-04, 19:42
heart say miyata, brain say either a pussy draw or sawamura will win.
MooMooFarm
2008-09-05, 05:36
YES!!! Ippo fans! to agree with YD, I read all chapters in a smilar span of time. Ippo is IMO the BEST sports manga out ther(better than Slam Dunk, Eyeshield 21 and Wild Striker)
And the question someone asks every 10 seconds: Why didnt it get animated past ep 77? There is a petitio onilne with like 1 million i think. I know that just viewrship isn't enough to drive a series to be animated, esp since most of those petitioners are Western viewers.
But WHY!?!? T_T (i'm a fan I still have the right to whine)
According to Bakuman, Sports mangas suck balls in popularity. Just because POT did well and ES21 is popular atm doesn't mean most sport mangas succeed. It's generally the suck.
This community and it's people most likely do not represent or have any form of knowing the japanese community, so that aspect of sales is ignored. Let's look at the other form, and that's overseas. When done by translating companies, or dub companies, let's look at our magnificant products.
Oh wait, pretty much every series got butchered beyond belief besides DBZ (IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAANDDDDD) Do you really think HnI would work for an audience that's too DUMB to look online for free stuff and READ instead of DUR MUST HAVE IT IN ENGLISH/NATIVE LANGUAGE. Fact is, the people who can appreciate these works overseas are the people who can get it for free. The people who pay either pay because they support the mangaka and have already access to it, or people who just want to try it but are NOT long term investors.
Yeah and of course, for the japanese community, they frigging cut off Mx0 yet Naruto is still ever so popular(GRRRR EYEBALL SKEELZZZZ HEY LUUK SASUKE I HAVE A EYE TECHNIQUE TOO, EASY TO DRAW FROG I'S HAR HAR). Enough said.
>.> RBJ looks gimp now. I thought he was a genuine monster, but this chapter showed me Miyata's got it in the bag. It's the typical, Miyata wins early, then opponent shows new move, then Miyata shows counter, then opponent beats him up, then Miyata shows guts, then opponent beats him up but fatally makes a mistake, Miyata wins. Hurray for the simple formula that will only be edited but not fundamentally changed. I mean, I really thought RBJ was someone special when they said he was going to take on the WORLD. I mean, MARTINEZ? That guy is GODLY. He's Takamura level and higher with a smaller body. But now, you know of his TRAGIC past and what not, he's just another LOSER.
=/ It's really a shame, since he's probably the coolest character since Sendo to come out (Sawamura is kinda cool, but not Sendo cool) and I thought it'd be the first time a full out villain won (Mashima is not a full out villain, he got fleshed out to be a "good guy" in a way).
kenjiharima
2008-09-05, 07:46
Everyone has a change of heart. Hmm too bad for RBJ though...
So Martinez FTW then.
MooMooFarm
2008-09-05, 08:44
Everyone has a change of heart. Hmm too bad for RBJ though...
So Martinez FTW then.
And he too will lose because he's too old by then and was somehow magically injured permanently by Sendo, who he will retire permanently or maybe outright kill.
Of course, this is one of many generic paths this series can take. But it's a plausible one given how damn cheesy things are going.
kenjiharima
2008-09-05, 09:01
And he too will lose because he's too old by then and was somehow magically injured permanently by Sendo, who he will retire permanently or maybe outright kill.
Of course, this is one of many generic paths this series can take. But it's a plausible one given how damn cheesy things are going.
Yeah I know these predictable things, but I am hoping the author does something that we might not expect with Martinez, Sendo and Ippo. Since the beginning Martinez has been unbeatable in fights and spars. Not unless you count Date hitting him with the heart break shot, but due to the crack fists the power wasn't enough to stop his heart. Strong muscles for his age.
Tri-ring
2008-09-05, 09:11
Yeah I know these predictable things, but I am hoping the author does something that we might not expect with Martinez, Sendo and Ippo. Since the beginning Martinez has been unbeatable in fights and spars. Not unless you count Date hitting him with the heart break shot, but due to the crack fists the power wasn't enough to stop his heart. Strong muscles for his age.
There is one possible consideration, "Diablo" Martinez announces his sudden retirement and every WBA Feather weight world class fighters enters a Battle Royale type tournament.
Now that will be a sight to see.
We have Sendo we have Vorg, we have yet to be seen foreign contenders and Ippo all competeing for the belt.
Now that will be the Ultimate clash!!
cloak_and_dagger
2008-09-06, 10:16
According to Bakuman, Sports mangas suck balls in popularity. Just because POT did well and ES21 is popular atm doesn't mean most sport mangas succeed. It's generally the suck.
This community and it's people most likely do not represent or have any form of knowing the japanese community, so that aspect of sales is ignored. Let's look at the other form, and that's overseas. When done by translating companies, or dub companies, let's look at our magnificant products.
Oh wait, pretty much every series got butchered beyond belief besides DBZ (IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAANDDDDD) Do you really think HnI would work for an audience that's too DUMB to look online for free stuff and READ instead of DUR MUST HAVE IT IN ENGLISH/NATIVE LANGUAGE. Fact is, the people who can appreciate these works overseas are the people who can get it for free. The people who pay either pay because they support the mangaka and have already access to it, or people who just want to try it but are NOT long term investors.
Hmmm. Good point. Point taken.
Yeah and of course, for the japanese community, they frigging cut off Mx0 yet Naruto is still ever so popular. Enough said.
This is now 3 consecutive threads I sunscribed to that remind me of the tragic fate of Mx0. That was one of the best and funniest mangas I have read and it had so much potential....and they were CONSISTENTLY WELL DRAWN, something not so prevalent nowadays. T_T I wish I was super-filthy-rich so I could personally sponsor my fav unanimated and unfinished works like the aforementioned and Fairy Tail. I'd pay top dollar to see a FMP! season 4 and 5, though they claimed its coming in '09. Right..:rolleyes:
Im gonna go ahead and get this outta the way. I think the winner is going to be RBJ in this fight. The way i see it if RBJ wins then he'll come after Ippo next and it'll get his blood boiling knowing it was the guy who beat miyata.
Then again, it IS miyata we're talking about. The speed demon with the deadly counters, if he can't win then that only shows how far he could get. I really like miyata and all but i think RBJ will take the prize this time.
it's kind of hard to see miyata practically breaking down. though at the end of 841 Ippo might say something. it would be cool to see him get up and go to ringside to smck miyata one so that he could compose himself.
or his dad could give him some advice. though miyata would have to ask him. i think that is the policy that they have. if he wants something he would have to ask. even then it is still hard to see. he wanted to beat RBJ with only counters, the style his dad used.
i keep wondering, what rank is Ippo. i think that miyata is no.5 in the world, and last i remember was that Ippo was 12th i think he must have gone up by now. i havn't read it in a long time so does anyone know???
kenjiharima
2009-02-02, 06:55
Many are thinking of a jolt upper or something that would beat RBJ. But I think RBJ's kindness will beat him since he won't fight an opponent at full strength when injured.
that would be kind of like Ippo and his dempsy upper that we saw in his fight against Scratch J.
Miyata will be done for only when he really will be done for. He has one bullet yet.
i keep wondering, what rank is Ippo. i think that miyata is no.5 in the world, and last i remember was that Ippo was 12th i think he must have gone up by now. i havn't read it in a long time so does anyone know???
He's 8th last time I saw...
Anyway, it's not hard to see Miyata is struggling. The probability of pulling another counter is low, since Randy has some unpredictable stances.
Good story telling and colorful balanced characters.
Eh, its hit and miss. For every Naniwa Tiger there is a sniveling dad character. For every Eiji Date there is that ridiculous Ikemabukurobukumaku, or whatever his name was. Oh, and there is Gedo...yeah...
Also, why the hell did he started to retcon the characters ? Miyata is completely retconned now, if you read latest Miyata flashback chapters and then return to the first volume - they are completely different stories !!!
Oh, and i also thought that in so many years he could actually improve as an artist, but it doesnt seems to be the case.
I sometimes re-read first 60 volumes or so, but after that - meh, no motivation.
kenjiharima
2009-02-04, 15:51
It's not rectoned it's something that happened in the middle of Miyata's life with his dad. The author Morikawa wants to build deph into why Miyata seeks to perfect his fathers technique. As in the beginning his that was his motivation and there match with Ippo, the one driving Miyata now is not a final match with Ippo, but his fathers legacy of boxing against the son of the man that defeated his father in boxing.
Also read the Sendo Gaiden, it has more than the "like my dad" motivation to be strong.
It's not rectoned
Uh, yes it is. If you read first volume - coach absolutely have just came to know Miyata, for a very short time. And in this retcon author now says that Miyata was trained by Kamogawa since he was like 5 years old.
kenjiharima
2009-02-05, 06:55
Uh, yes it is. If you read first volume - coach absolutely have just came to know Miyata, for a very short time. And in this retcon author now says that Miyata was trained by Kamogawa since he was like 5 years old.
Miyata was a young kid back then, he was trained by Kamogawa to do counters, since little Miyata requested it. He was still a kid when Miyata Sr. got him to train in KBG. Also remember the flashback with Aoiki and Kimura when he was with Takamura, they where still young. Probably the reason is that the coach didn't pay much attention to Miyata back then one reason he says he only knows Miyata for a short time during his training years since Kamogawa has alot of other boxers too, though his cream of the crop are Takamura and Ippo which he pays extra attention too.
Terrestrial Dream
2009-02-08, 23:12
This is a good manga and all but my god it could be so much better if it did not drag on and on. There are so many unnecessary fight and characters that could have been left out. I see no point of Itagaki, all he does is slowing down the manga. Imo the manga should had official Miyata vs Ippo long ago and should be lot further than this. If the pace had been better I would say this would be on par with Slam Dunk and Eyeshield 21.
kenjiharima
2009-02-09, 00:15
I think Itagaki will serve later on as the next Kimura, since Aoki and him have many loses, I think they'll finally retire sooner or later and as for Aoki's replacement, probably a new character.
This is a good manga and all but my god it could be so much better if it did not drag on and on. There are so many unnecessary fight and characters that could have been left out. I see no point of Itagaki, all he does is slowing down the manga. Imo the manga should had official Miyata vs Ippo long ago and should be lot further than this. If the pace had been better I would say this would be on par with Slam Dunk and Eyeshield 21.
but, Slam Dunk and Eyeshield 21 would never be able to last as long as Ippo. it has gotten this far for a reason. i take that back Slam Dunk just maybe able to. also if i remember correctly Slam Dunk matches also lasted this long. they were long as well. Ippo is great because because it has very good charcaters and it is really well written.
as for Miyata vs Ippo the manga will end as soon as one betters one another. when they face each other also i really hope that the mangeka will not end it in a drw because that would be soooooo bad. it will have a clear winner. then the manga will end.
also Itagaki is an important character as he will be the one taking the mantle after Ippo relinquesis the tiltle. he has already passed on the batton as Date did to him. Itagaki is the next in line.
hajime no ippo is one of the best mangas around hands down, the focus on boxing the depth of the characters is truly amazing. I am obviously a slam dunk fan and proud of it and I also love eyshield 21 but they both have long matches that drag on as well. instead of trying to contrast them against each other we should all be thankful to have so many good sports manga to read. It is a tough thing that slam dunk is over but wishing for the end of ippo is a bad bad thing when it still gives us great stories after so many years.
I intensely dislike Itagaki. Always have, always will. Thinking of him inheriting Date's title makes my stomach churn.
I intensely dislike Itagaki. Always have, always will. Thinking of him inheriting Date's title makes my stomach churn.
what is so wrong with his character. i like that he has a couple of flaws and he lost, then he learned lessons as he had each fight. he has a huge amount of talent, he showed that during the Meshiba spars.
Terrestrial Dream
2009-02-17, 11:17
but, Slam Dunk and Eyeshield 21 would never be able to last as long as Ippo. it has gotten this far for a reason. i take that back Slam Dunk just maybe able to. also if i remember correctly Slam Dunk matches also lasted this long. they were long as well. Ippo is great because because it has very good charcaters and it is really well written.
as for Miyata vs Ippo the manga will end as soon as one betters one another. when they face each other also i really hope that the mangeka will not end it in a drw because that would be soooooo bad. it will have a clear winner. then the manga will end.
also Itagaki is an important character as he will be the one taking the mantle after Ippo relinquesis the tiltle. he has already passed on the batton as Date did to him. Itagaki is the next in line. Well imo Slam Dunk ended at the right moment before it dragged on, of course the last match against Sannoh was amazing but if it went on longer I am not sure if I would have enjoyed it as much. And its not much as the match dragged on its the story, like I said before there were many fights that could have been left out. Also if the story ended after a match vs Miyata is kinda disservice to Date. I want Ippo truly taking Date's will and becoming world champ. But I suppose ending at that point wouldn't be bad either. And really Itagaki could have been left out, he doing nothing to the story besides slowing it down.
hajime no ippo is one of the best mangas around hands down, the focus on boxing the depth of the characters is truly amazing. I am obviously a slam dunk fan and proud of it and I also love eyshield 21 but they both have long matches that drag on as well. instead of trying to contrast them against each other we should all be thankful to have so many good sports manga to read. It is a tough thing that slam dunk is over but wishing for the end of ippo is a bad bad thing when it still gives us great stories after so many years. I will say it again its not the match itself it is the overall story. There are few fights that could have been left out. And I don't want Ippo to be over but what I want is to story to progress further. How many title challenge fight do I need read or how many pointless Itagaki fights do I have to endure? Imo after the match against Sendoh the story has not much moved further besides events of Takamura and Date.
After Sendoh match, the series is became focused on Makunochi constantly defending his title. While its looks like its not important, it became a reasonable place in the story to explore his weaknesses and improve his strengths.
^^^ i think that this is really important that they did focus on his development and moving up in the world. that was just well done. they focus on the other people at the gym because it is a long manga and adds character to the people he looks up to and respects, which gives him the ability to develope more.
kenjiharima
2009-02-19, 12:48
just saw the latest chapter raw...gotta tell you Miyata's beatdown comebacks are getting to be a bore...there's no feel to it now, it feels like I've watched a scripted wrestling match where the losing guy still has the time to taunt and go at it.
gonzo562
2009-02-20, 03:21
just saw the latest chapter raw...gotta tell you Miyata's beatdown comebacks are getting to be a bore...there's no feel to it now, it feels like I've watched a scripted wrestling match where the losing guy still has the time to taunt and go at it.
And if miyata some how knocks out randy boy with a single hit im gonna be really disappointed
kenjiharima
2009-02-20, 06:55
And if miyata some how knocks out randy boy with a single hit im gonna be really disappointed
QFT...
RBJ has taken Miyata's all of Miyata's best shots, he did to all the other competitors, RBJ did however managed to lessen the blows so he could take all of them, he has toughness and gives Miyata the beatdown, but he still manages to get up. I suggest if ever RBJ is gonna win, he'd better take out the left ribs too so the ref would stop the fight.
Please win, RBJ. Please, please win. I want to see you fight Ippo.
Please win, RBJ. Please, please win. I want to see you fight Ippo.
That will not happen... to many chapters of HnI said it... Ippo and Miyata are destinated to fight again, same way Date and Martinez fought again, Ippo and Sendoh fought again.
Ippo will fight with Miyata, he will defeat him and the he will fight Martinez (i dont know that outcome...)
kenjiharima
2009-02-20, 09:02
In the latest scanlation seems Miyata's gonna gamble and will push forward for a right punch since he sees an opening on RBJ's lefts.
But remember that RBJ said to himself that Sanghuchi's data was so accurate, he's probably being cautious one reason why he only trows lefts. Seeing he can indeed dodge and put a step foot forward again for a body blow in one of the panels instead of a left.
Ippo and Miyata fight will wait since the damage on Miyata is as great or even greater that what Ippo did to Sendo. But knowing Sendo he's brick build he's tougher than rocks.
from the looks of it he can still win with just one hit. he does have that counter to the jaw and the jolt. both of those could do enough damage to knock RBJ out. most likely he will use the jolt in this situtation. i doubt that he will get the chance to use the counter to the jaw that severs the link.
and it's not so bad if he did win with the one counter. he did win the earlier rounds. he gave it his all. so he did damage RBJ and now is reaping the effects of that. so it's not like he just throws one punch and wins. also this would go with what there fathers did to each other. RBJ's father did hit Miyata's father with one punch. so it would make sense.
knowing Sendo he's brick build he's tougher than rocks.
lol... so true
gonzo562
2009-02-20, 17:38
That will not happen... to many chapters of HnI said it... Ippo and Miyata are destinated to fight again, same way Date and Martinez fought again, Ippo and Sendoh fought again.
Ippo will fight with Miyata, he will defeat him and the he will fight Martinez (i dont know that outcome...)
meh i dont want to see them fight anymore
miyata should just lose and move up in weight class
ippo vs rbj ftw
also i cannot see how miyata can win this fight anymore is he gonna one shot rbj or something unexpected happens to rbj
or maybe miyata comes up with new move like some type of killer uppercut
miyata should just lose and move up in weight class
That will not happen, the whole plot of the manga is based on the rivalry between Ippo and Miyata. If Miyata doesn't move up in weight class is exactly because the promise they did.
ippo vs rbj ftw
RBJ will be another Arnie Gregory.
also i cannot see how miyata can win this fight anymore is he gonna one shot rbj or something unexpected happens to rbj
or maybe miyata comes up with new move like some type of killer uppercut
It's quite simple, HnI has too many cliches, you must just review the whole backgroung of this fight, this fight started too many years before, when both dads fought... Miyata's dad dominated the whole fight, but a single blow of RBJ's dad ended his carreer.
This is a manga ruled by the laws of "Shonen Manga"... so Miyata's win is totally expected.
gonzo562
2009-02-20, 20:13
That will not happen, the whole plot of the manga is based on the rivalry between Ippo and Miyata. If Miyata doesn't move up in weight class is exactly because the promise they did.
RBJ will be another Arnie Gregory.
It's quite simple, HnI has too many cliches, you must just review the whole backgroung of this fight, this fight started too many years before, when both dads fought... Miyata's dad dominated the whole fight, but a single blow of RBJ's dad ended his carreer.
This is a manga ruled by the laws of "Shonen Manga"... so Miyata's win is totally expected.
your probably right miyata gonna win
but im praying the author will surprise us all :D with a loss
SageGaiGar
2009-02-21, 17:51
Kind of wondering how long they can maintain the plot of miyata in a weight class that's destroying him. (likely as long as is necessary for the plot)
Kind of wondering how long they can maintain the plot of miyata in a weight class that's destroying him. (likely as long as is necessary for the plot)
I think when Ippo and Miyata fight again... If Ippo wins (almost sure of it), he will move to the world stage (facing Martinez). Miyata then could move up to the next category.
I do not, do not, DO NOT WANT to see Ippo and Miyata fight again.
First off, that would that make the past 100 chapters meaningless. If all Miyata had to do to fight Ippo was beat RBJ, why waste our time with the "Goodbye Ippo", "Goodbye Miyata" scenes?
Secondly, I'm sick and tired of hearing about how weak Miyata is because he's fighting in a weight class he doesn't belong in. I won't be able to enjoy the beatdown Ippo gives him because I'll know he's fighting against a gimped Miyata. Perhaps Miyata can move up to Aoki's class. Imae wouldn't stand a chance.
Thirdly, I find Miyata's boxing boring. A few rounds of him beating his opponent beautifully, a few rounds of him being beaten on, one counter punch, the end. Either that or he just dominates all the way through. Also his stubborn, stand-offish personality is exceedingly unattractive to me. I don't want to see him taking up more space in HnI with the long lead-up to a fight with Ippo, then a long fight, then the post fight... If that happens, I really will stop reading this manga.
Finally, it's about time Ippo got a new rival. We haven't been able to take any of his opponents seriously since the Sawamura fight way back in volume 50-something. If not against RBJ, I want to see Ippo take on somebody new and exciting and pump some new blood into the series.
If RBJ lose, I dunno how Ippo is going to fight him.
With Gendo (is that the bald Philippino's name?) warning, I thought they would fight sooner of later.
If Miyata wins, then They are going to introduced new opponent since Miyata won't surely fight Ippo ever in near future.
i don't remember the name but I think that mexican guy that beat date is more of an ultimate opponent for ippo than miyata ever could be.
kenjiharima
2009-02-24, 07:04
Richardo Martinez is beyond...his face wasn't even damaged in the Date fight and he beats opponents to a bloody plup. Even Ippo's Dempsy Roll was just jabbed by REGULAR lefts.
That's why i told that before, the ultimate opponent IS Martinez. Ippo must defeat RBJ or Miyata to enter to the world stage. So, it's simple: Ippo must face Miyata for Plot's Sake, so, to me, Miyata will defeat RBJ and then comes Ippo.
Tri-ring
2009-02-24, 18:30
That's why i told that before, the ultimate opponent IS Martinez. Ippo must defeat RBJ or Miyata to enter to the world stage. So, it's simple: Ippo must face Miyata for Plot's Sake, so, to me, Miyata will defeat RBJ and then comes Ippo.
I don't know.
After reading Ch844(yeah it's already out) I wonder if Miyata will stay within the same weight class.
I believe that both Miyata and Ippo will want to fight each other regardless of title but they also want to fight at best condition.
Miyata simply cannot fight at his best condition within the feather weight limit and is painfully obvious that Miyata if wanting to go further up the world champion league will have to decide to step up a weight class.
The best scenario for Miyata if he wins is to relinquish his OPBF feather weight champion title and challenge the OPBF junior light weight champion.If it's a challenge from another OPBF champ then I do not think the OPBF junior light weight champion can refuse.
Ippo will then be the first in line to challenge for OPBF feather weight champion title fighting against an unknow opponent.
i thought that Mashiba was going to challange for OPBF junior light weight champion.
Tri-ring
2009-02-24, 20:19
i thought that Mashiba was going to challange for OPBF junior light weight champion.
He is making Sendo's words more meaningful.
"Some people are destined to fight each other"
So... there might be Mashiba vs. Miyata again?
this is all speculation. the manga is built on Miyata vs Ippo round 3. they will fight. it could be that they both go for the feather weight but, end up going for different belts. Ippo for the WBC which i think Martinez has and Miyata for the other i think the WBA???(not sure). then they could have a unification match. to settle it once and for all.
the manga could even do what TV shows do. when the manga has to finish they could do time skip and have it so that one of them is winning the world title just now and the other has already won it. then they finally have there destined match.
i'll admit that at one point the manga may have been built on a miyata vs ippo showdown, but we are 840+ chapters, 85+ volumes and 20+ years down the road, that is a simplistic way of looking at the goals of a manga that could easily run just as many more years.
840+ chapters, 85+ volumes and 20+ years down the road, run just as many more years.
amen to that. hopefully..finger crossed
I've just been focusing on the manga and didn't even notice that the sequal for the series started already!
gonzo562
2009-02-26, 02:22
just read the chapter 844
Randy Boy better get his ass up. Man i will be sad if he got knocked out from just that. I was hoping the manga would go in a different direction and miyata loses. So i hope randy boy will get up but im doubting it since randy boy put his full strength into that punch and got countered :(
just read it. man what a chapter.
it was good to see that Myata learned something from his father. kenw it coming and it deliverd. it would be cool if he did break RBJ's jaw but the punch did't seem it landed that way. it was a good trap. RBJ never saw it coming. i guess that was the point. hopeflly he does not get up.
it is going to be a chapter for the 10 count and then depending on the result it may take more. he could be out cold?
if he does win. Ippo will be the no.1 contender. they could fight but, i think that Myata will relinquish and move onto the world. it has been said that only after fighting each other they move onto the world but, after this fight Myata could be ready. after this fight he could do it now. if it is the case that they will not fight.
IMO the reason they did't fight was cause Myata wanted revenge for happend to his dad. they could fight after he had the RBJ fight. but from the injries that he has now Ippo would end up waiting a long time. and i think Coach wants to move onto the OPBF if not the world.
it could be that they fight to decide who will battle with Martinez. NO.1 contendership. but taht would be along way away. sendo also wants it.
Sendo is out of the pic... he is a supporter character, don't expect more of him. Ippo already has Miyata as his "rival".
And, i told you what will happen, Shounen Manga is always the same.
^^^maybe, but it's the way it happens. that's the intrseting part.
we all know how bond films are going to be but, how they get there is intresting.
also i don't think sendo is out of it yet. he is a very prodominent character and is still challanging for the world. i doubt he will fight Ippo but, he will have a role.
you don't bring in a side character if he's not going to do anything.
Of course, but that's what happen with mangas with this amount of characters... sadly here the protagonist is Ippo, next to him is his eternal rival -Miyata-, there is the former glory -Date-, there is the big brother -Takamura-, there is the wise sensei -Kamogawa-, there is the "main villain" -Martinez-... Sendo, Mashiba, Itagaki, etc... they are supporters that play a role, but they are in a second line. Today no one remembers to the russian boxer... (Vorg?)
xellos2099
2009-02-26, 12:27
I STILL don't understand why Miyata HAD to drop the fight with Ippo. Even through he want to avenge his father defeat, couldn't he have fought Ippo again after fighting Randy Boy Jr?
that is most likely the cause taht willl happen. but, he had to drop the fight because Myata considers Ippo as his rival and when he learned of RBJ as he was ready to battle Ippo. and RBJ is his bigger rival. his dad had to quit boxing and he lost everyone in his life becasue of RBJ's dad. he is a bigger rival.
gonzo562
2009-03-03, 09:25
Of course, but that's what happen with mangas with this amount of characters... sadly here the protagonist is Ippo, next to him is his eternal rival -Miyata-, there is the former glory -Date-, there is the big brother -Takamura-, there is the wise sensei -Kamogawa-, there is the "main villain" -Martinez-... Sendo, Mashiba, Itagaki, etc... they are supporters that play a role, but they are in a second line. Today no one remembers to the russian boxer... (Vorg?)
i remember vorg. He will probably fight ippo again. I bet vorg may have become a world ranker while fighting in the usa so ippo and vorg may fight in the ring again
Tri-ring
2009-03-03, 09:31
i remember vorg. He will probably fight ippo again. I bet vorg may have become a world ranker while fighting in the usa so ippo and vorg may fight in the ring again
They are registered under different associations and Japan unfortunately does not recognize the association Vorg is inlisted so I do not think they will fight each other again.
Beside I believe Vorg stepped up a weight class.
kenjiharima
2009-03-03, 17:51
DON'T MESS WITH RANDY!!!!
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk281/sephiroth143/08.jpg
There is something in the back of my head saying, If Miyata fights like his dad and his dad lost to RB Sr. I think that counter won't have an effect ton him, but I NEVER KNEW this would be the case. O_O
gonzo562
2009-03-03, 21:49
DON'T MESS WITH RANDY!!!!
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk281/sephiroth143/08.jpg
There is something in the back of my head saying, If Miyata fights like his dad and his dad lost to RB Sr. I think that counter won't have an effect ton him, but I NEVER KNEW this would be the case. O_O
gogog my filipino brother kick miyata's ass ;D
BIG_BOI_JARRED
2009-03-04, 03:45
oh my god its been a year now and still I haven't caught up GEEZ!!!
Raaaaar! I'm rooting for Asura all the way! Kick that pretty boy in the pants!
whoa, can't belive he got back up. now i guess the real battle begins. or it could be that he is unconchus(can't spell). we have seen that a lot in the manga. they are i think in round 7 which means they still have along way to go. so i doubt taht it will go to decision.
it's looking grim for Miyata.
kenjiharima
2009-03-04, 06:18
I just can't believe someone in HNI is tougher than Sendo! Man I like RBJ now more than when her was first introduce as the "DESTINY" to fight Miyata. Father's legacy and the Sons clash.
read the chapterit was good to see the whole thing with the out with the old and in with the young. they want to settle it there way.
don't really know what is happening with the light thing but, after reading that i never though during this whole fight that Miyata would ever lose but, he now actully might. Randy was looking tottaly bada**. loved him when he stood up and was looking fearless and mad.
but reallt the possibility of miyata losing is pritty high now. 'the light' thing could go either way. this is why i love HNI. never expected it to come to this. thought that the chapter would be a long drag out of the count but, the manga-ka surprised me in a big way.
can't wait for the next chapter....
wtf is that bullshit!!!! AARRRRGGgh, blarg... yes next chapter is going to be either a let down or amazing there is no in between. Mashiba is still scarry as shit, can't wait to see him in the ring again.
No wonder... RBJ just saw the light... :heh:
....
I dunno. Light? If Miyata is able to land another counter...
Anyway, Randy got a little carried away. So if he take a full punch... meh...
But still, Miyata pulling second counter...
*speechless*
As i said... plotkai... Miyata will face Ippo sooner than later.
kenjiharima
2009-03-05, 22:30
If ever Miyata counters RBJ right he'll be out of commission for a long time like Sendo when Ippo broke his ribs. But Miyata's damage could be even greater.
The light the 2 saw? Possible tie? Maybe...
If ever Miyata counters RBJ right he'll be out of commission for a long time like Sendo when Ippo broke his ribs. But Miyata's damage could be even greater.
It doesn't matter, either way, a pro-boxer doesn't fight too soon... i think in 6 months. Time enough to both to prepare the combat...
The light the 2 saw? Possible tie? Maybe...
Nah... RBJ is done for...
kenjiharima
2009-03-05, 22:39
Nah... RBJ is done for...
I'll wait for the next chapter for that answer...
i dont think in any reason who could give some chance to RBJ... Ippo has seen the whole arsenal of RBJ... Miyata opened that book and everybody has seen how to fight him... Ippo has lot more stamina that Miyata, i will not say that is a easy win, but Kamogawa is not blind, Miyata's dad has first hand info about RBJ...
If Miyata loose this fight, he will be losing the chance to settle things with Ippo and the chance to go to World Stage.
I'm trying to be logical, of course there is chance for RBJ... but a Shounen Action manga is a Shounen Action manga.
gonzo562
2009-03-05, 23:30
just read the current chapter hope rbj not done for i want miyata to lose!
but think about if miyata were to lose, it would be another 30 volumes before a potential ippo v miyata rematch where as a win would make the rematch a more plausible reality in the near future.
^^^i don't mind another 30+ volumes of HNI.
I would be fine of 30 more volumes of HNi if it was just takamura roflstomping everybody in color... salivate at the manliness lol
^^no way. not just takamura, the whole reason the manga is as good as it is, is because all the characters together create more moments. true that takamura is one of the best but, if the manga was centrd around him and his character it would not be as good as it is now. he's the side character that everyone loves.
can't wait till the next chapter. it does look very good.
Soconfused
2009-03-06, 12:54
This has probably been one of my least favorite fights in the series. I dunno, I just expected more after all the hype surrounding Randy, but he didn't even do much of anything the entire fight. We need the next Takamura battle!
Telcalipoca
2009-03-07, 14:51
This has probably been one of my least favorite fights in the series. I dunno, I just expected more after all the hype surrounding Randy, but he didn't even do much of anything the entire fight. We need the next Takamura battle!
we need him taking a belt not defending it though.his world belt fights have being great fights .
and i would like to see aoki develope a new move since that will guarantee laughs.
a great fight and a great laugh are what make this series enjoyable .
Tri-ring
2009-03-07, 21:28
The next fight that have been announced is most likely Itagaki's Class-A tournament carnival fight.
This could be a pre-show for Ippo's Asian champion fight which could become the last fight to gain necessary world ranking to step up to the world stage in which case Ippo will relinquish his national champion belt.
kenjiharima
2009-03-07, 23:09
I think Ippo and Miyata need to settle this in a video game fight or a streetfight.
RBJ, after all the hype about you, you're just going to lay down for a sissy, weakened pretty boy fighting at half-strength to walk all over you? For shame! Fight, RBJ, fight!
kenjiharima
2009-03-08, 18:16
http://www.monsterup.com/upload/1236531013.jpgRBJ was hit by the light on Miyata's fists? How LAME can you get?!!! It's even lamer than Spiderman selling his marriage to Mephipsto and Batman dying, but to be resurrected yet again.
There you have it.... a sport manga at its fullest... Morikawa knows his job.
Do you remember the analogy of Miyata being "the lightning god's fists"???... ;)
Soconfused
2009-03-09, 01:45
Boooo indeed. What happened to Miyata, he use to be cool. : /
kenjiharima
2009-03-09, 02:34
Background on RBJ Asura.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiranyaksha
Refered as the "Goldeneye" no wonder...
Edit:
http://www.monsterup.com/upload/1236575784.jpg
Look at Miyata's arm the way it's drawn...looks like Mashiba's. Also looks like a semi crockscrewblow. the only thing good here is that RBJ is not down...yet.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *hisssssssssssssssssssssss* BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *throws garbage into the ring*
Okay, enough of that fight. Moving on, moving on. Bring on Takamura's title defence, and make it longer than one chapter this time.
Telcalipoca
2009-03-09, 09:46
The next fight that have been announced is most likely Itagaki's Class-A tournament carnival fight.
This could be a pre-show for Ippo's Asian champion fight which could become the last fight to gain necessary world ranking to step up to the world stage in which case Ippo will relinquish his national champion belt.
he has yet to bring an interesting fight.
maybe that will change in the tournament
BanishingBook
2009-03-09, 10:22
Randy Boy is not going down. He is the pride of the Filipino people, *takes out microphone.* lol
I hate it when authors resort to miracle plot gags like "I see the light!" Filipino boxers are tougher than that, light and magic and all.
kenjiharima
2009-03-09, 17:13
^ lol cute avatar wanna make it into Mizore.... :heh:
Anyways back into topic. If that "BOLT" (thunder Jolt) counter had power KO RBJ it's the SHIT, but if remains standing and still fighting that's a good sign. No raws yet btw only spoilers.
The Gedo match was another, since that guy is an ass and Ippo is gay for Miyata the REAL PAIRING in HNI IppoxMiyata from the start lol, but seriously RBJ has the readers side, though in the manga Miyata's cheered by the fans. Morikawa is losing it...
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9559/pikayata.png
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9559/pikayata.png
looks like it's ippo's old body....lol espically the forearms.
gonzo562
2009-03-10, 19:35
awe man disappointing with how this fight gonna end
i love hajime no ippo. but i dont entirely like the way the author choose to portray it. there are many ways to include everything the author wants to show in these fights without having to drag it out for so long. i mean really, some of these fights go on forever. this is one of those mangas where you have to stop reading for years at a time, and then read it in one go to get the maximum enjoyment from it. remember ippo's fight with that magic guy? the guy the the loose gloves? that fight literally took a year didnt it? i mean sheesh. it would be nice to have some consideration for your readers.
one can compare ippo's pacing to kenichi, a similair shonen with equally good story-telling. but with kenichi, the author wraps up fights in one chapter and continues with his story. he doesnt rely on the details of the fights to sustain his story, and yet it all works out fine even as kenichi uses each of his new moves. even if a fight has been built up to a grand matchup that concludes an entire season (there have been two) the author only needs about three chapters and they are done, without losing any impact on the fighting techniques or the story.
i might be comparing apples and oranges here, but come on. entire chapters are devoted to portraying one idea in a boxing match. and then the next chapter will show the idea being executed, and then the subsequent one reveals how it played out (usually fail) before the fight moves on. it would be nice if morikawa shortened the fights a bit. the best things about ippo happen in-between the fights anyway, when the plot moves.
I have two things to say
1) I am glad it was over. Felt drag now.
2) I felt bitter/bad about the fight. Uhmm, the conclusion feels rushed. Okay I am glad its over, but the concluding scenes after that felt....empty
This is Hajime no Ippo :cool:
Terrestrial Dream
2009-03-11, 18:02
What was the point of this chapter again? Why couldn't the mangaka finish last chapter with the same punch from this chapter? This is the problem with Hajime no Ippo too many unnecessary things that could be easily left out. I have a feeling that this manga will last another 20years at this pace, but still this is fun manga to read.
This is Hajime no Ippo :cool:
To be honest, if I was reading this for longer year, I could have realized that. The problem is, I just got into this last year, so sorry if my comment is so out of place in HnI universe :heh:
It's ok... besides, im sorry too if i was a little repetitive with the "this is sports manga" speech :heh:
but... HnI is this way and Morikawa is writting this for so long that is predictable. But this is about the ride, because the end is obvious (If Morikawa really wants end it, because he can continue writting HnI forever :heh:).
If you are watching HnI: New Challenger, you will see a scene between Ippo and Date and you can helped it but already notice the result of a lot of fights (until Ippo fight against Martinez at least).
in a sense Miyata just used Date's shot but in a different situtation. the screw blow did damage. just like how it was explained. now what will be intresting is that Miyata is going to be out for a long time, i think he might even relinquish the title. and Ippo is no.1 seed for the OPBF, so is he gonna fight the no.2 or 3 seed for the title or is he gonna keep his J-belt until the champions carnival. cause Manbu is gonna probly enter as a serious contender now and IMO i think the coach wants to ready Ippo for the world. so i'm thinking he might start Ippo against world rankers insted of going for the OPBF. ippo has proved that he can handle the OPBF region by beating the featherweight champs. and i'm sure that others who are below him in rank would't mind fighting him. this could be his training for the world and Martinez.
BanishingBook
2009-03-11, 21:25
ugliest ending to a fight, miracle gag took effect!
kenjiharima
2009-03-11, 22:37
Lighting lolz. LAME...
Hoping now the damage on Miyata will put him out of action for awhile, Iam SICK of his face.
gonzo562
2009-03-11, 23:25
just read the current chapter diappointed with
how the fight ended. I guess this opens up for miyata and ippo to eventually fight. I dont think ippo has a fight upcoming. So maybe after ippo and miyata recover they will fight who knows
Fipskuul
2009-03-11, 23:32
Disappointed. Even though I knew that Miyata should win for Ippo's sake, I was secretly hoping that he would lose, to open the path for Ippo to new challengers. Now, he will still continue to be the main focal point in Ippo's heart, and the story. Hooray for Japan at the end.
kenjiharima
2009-03-12, 04:55
Let's just hope RBJ doesn't have a brother or cousin plot hole in the mix that will take revenge on his side who is more powerful than him.
BanishingBook
2009-03-12, 05:00
hoping randy is back on the ropes to fight again. go asura!
Soconfused
2009-03-13, 02:26
Randy has done nothing to warrant the title of "Asura". Probably the worst fight in a looong time, was hyped to hell and fell flat on it's face. Get back to Takamura please...:eyebrow:
kenjiharima
2009-03-13, 08:29
The crowd maybe cheering on the manga, but more of the readers are booing on the lame end.
Isn't Takamura fight next? I'm looking forward to it.
gonzo562
2009-03-13, 09:27
Isn't Takamura fight next? I'm looking forward to it.
takumara fight will probably end in a round 1 knockout
so im guessing after takumara fight is manabu fighting in the class a tournement which has some pretty tough opponents and should be interesting. After that we got mashiba come back fight
then finally either ippo fighting another fighter in the opbf region ,a work ranker, or miyata.
its also possible for a ippo and manabu confrontation since if manabu wins the class a tournement he has the rights to fight ippo but he would have to join a different gym
this manga definitely not gonna be ending soon another 10 years incoming
The crowd maybe cheering on the manga, but more of the readers are booing on the lame end.
This is simple... is not good to generalize... probably Miyata shares the same spot that characters like Sasuke, i mean, in the eye of the reader is a lame character, but, Ippo (and Naruto) can't exist without them... that's why both are plot protected. Miyata could loose at the beggining (against Mashiba) but in this fight, he couldn't loose.
I learn to deal with that... probably RBJ Vs. Ippo is a most cool fight, but it goes against Morikawa's work.
Isn't Takamura fight next? I'm looking forward to it.
1 Hit KO... probably... :heh:
I learn to deal with that... probably RBJ Vs. Ippo is a most cool fight, but it goes against Morikawa's work.
Its going to be Mashiba vs. Ippo all over again :heh:
Seriously, what I complain about was the lame conclusion/end of fight scene. So rushed. Then again, if they planned to make this better, it would take more chapters.
1 Hit KO... probably...
I could see that actually. The main fight was Miyata vs. RBJ. The next fight would be a breeze :heh:
cloak_and_dagger
2009-03-13, 20:07
probably RBJ Vs. Ippo is a most cool fight, but it goes against Morikawa's work.
You know, that would've been an amazing fight......
Yeah... but i think that Morikawa must be working in Ippo's Vs. Miyata's Fight since forever :heh:
That fight WILL be so damn epic... i've goosebumps just thinking about it.
kenjiharima
2009-03-14, 11:16
This is Shonen Manga the stories are all in cahoots I tell you! lol :heh:
You stole my phrase!!! :heh:
Fipskuul
2009-03-14, 16:23
Miyata - Ippo rivalry will make Ricardo look like a nothing, and that is the worst you can expect from this story. The way the story goes, it feels like Miyata will get the belt from Ricardo, and meet with Ippo the challenger.
I don't think so... the instant that Date loose and trust to Ippo "Japan's baton", Ippo is destinated to fight Martinez and defeat him.
Miyata could win against RBJ because to the plot... but against Ippo, the plot is against him. Ippo had a lame fight against Geddo, now it's turn to an epic battle.
Cinocard
2009-03-14, 20:35
Yeah... but i think that Morikawa must be working in Ippo's Vs. Miyata's Fight since forever :heh:
That fight WILL be so damn epic... i've goosebumps just thinking about it.
Well, before that fight, another fight for Ippo must come up first. Wonder if he will received any other boost.
But really, with this come back of Miyata, no come back is impossible in Hajime no Ippo anymore.
my bet is that miyata vs ippo is never gonna happen. miyata have to go upper weightclass soon and then its over for those two :)
my bet is that miyata vs ippo is never gonna happen. miyata have to go upper weightclass soon and then its over for those two :)
No, as his own father said: Miyata will stay in Featherweight until his fight against Ippo.
This whole manga is constructed around that promise.
Bandersnatch
2009-03-15, 00:42
Ippo vs. Miyata fight will be executed exactly like the Apollo Creed vs. Rocky fight in Rocky 3. Ippo and Miyata will throw punches at each other and when you turn the page Eye of the Tiger starts playing through one of those greeting card type speakers.
cloak_and_dagger
2009-03-15, 21:46
Ippo vs. Miyata fight will be executed exactly like the Apollo Creed vs. Rocky fight in Rocky 3. Ippo and Miyata will throw punches at each other and when you turn the page Eye of the Tiger starts playing through one of those greeting card type speakers.
Forgive me, I tried to understand what you're saying, but I keep looking at your avatar......must...have...it!!
The crowd maybe cheering on the manga, but more of the readers are booing on the lame end.
I wouldn't count on that. The strange thing is that Japan and the rest of the world tend to have very different tastes in characters. A character hated elsewhere (like Hinamori in Bleach, ugh) can be pretty popular in Japan, and vice-versa. Miyata ranks really highly in the Ippo polls every time. I don't think he's ever been out of the top 5. Maybe as we sit here complaining, there are people crying over their copies of Shounen Magazine thinking "Best. Fight. EVER!" :p
kenjiharima
2009-03-16, 22:49
lame on my part...red lightning? lolz :heh:
Ippo is such a fan boy!! :heh:
Is Morikawa telling us that we must wait 10 more years to see Ippo and Miyata fight? :uhoh:
^^TBH i don't mind because Miyata's fight are not that great but, Taka and Ippo's fights are fun to read and have some unexepected things.
Miyata pulls/relies to miracle punches to win recently. But I forgive that. I hope he doesn't do that against Ippo... Miyata, improve yourself....
at people going home ignoring Takamura fight.
I'm not wanna be Takamura's contender... he is so pissed of right now... the hell will be on that ring :heh:
I rolled over the floor when I saw him grabbing the TV and saying "Don't leave yet!" with his angry face. :heh:
Im just starting to read this manga and found this epic line at chapter 40... Ippo and some of the guys from the gym go to the beach and they just started running alongside the coastline but Ippo cant keep up with them.... until he finally figures it out !
Epic line: ".... so they are dashing from ass to ass.. awasome pervert power... "
http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/00000016/00000039/ippo_vol-05_123.jpg
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And a question since there are 800+ chapters ahead... is Ippo going to get a girlfriend?
ahh... well... this is a Shonen Sports manga... so the author will be teasing on that subject for years.
NVM... Ippo has Mashiba's sister and Itagaki's sister... and they already teased us with the doctor and the journalist... i dont know if i forgot someone else. (ah... i forgot the idol who spar with him :heh:) :D
^^^^that was sooo funny when he jabbed her brests. the look on Taka and the rests faces, was sooo fuuny
kenjiharima
2009-03-18, 20:34
Now I can really say Ippo is gay for Miyata. lolz
And Itagaki is starting to follow that road too :heh:
Hmm this whole homo thing is really annoying and making me want to quit this manga right now.... one thing is joking about Ippo's dick once in a while but Geromichi (Ippo's homo boy) and the guy that got jealous of Ippo cause "Date-san" didnt show him a new move.... it is just too much -.- This is so wrong ..
it's not Homo it's admiration. he looks up to him as a person he wants to be like one day and has respect for him.
Ippo likes mashiba's sister.
kenjiharima
2009-03-19, 09:36
Also remember the penis jokes in HNI...hmmm been a while without any of those. lolz :heh:
No wonder there are also many yaoi fans of this manga.
it's not Homo it's admiration. he looks up to him as a person he wants to be like one day and has respect for him.
Ippo likes mashiba's sister.
I know it is admiration but you cant deny the "homo ambient" everytime that guy appears... i mean he is shy, speaks to no one but ippo, has a photo of him in his wallet and the other guy follows his senior everywhere, has a poster of him in his bedroom and gets jealous because he wasnt showed a new technique first.
Well... im just saying that if all the homo thing was supposed to be funny, it didnt work at all. And if it wasnt..... well i just hope some girl will pop up once in a while.
well i just hope some girl will pop up once in a while.
This is Ippo's girl... they have some history with up and downs:
http://animefanatic.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kumi.gif
Kumi Mashiba... yeah... she's Mashiba's cute little sister.
I know it is admiration but you cant deny the "homo ambient" everytime that guy appears... i mean he is shy, speaks to no one but ippo, has a photo of him in his wallet and the other guy follows his senior everywhere, has a poster of him in his bedroom and gets jealous because he wasnt showed a new technique first.
Dude there are like no homoerotic undertones in ippo, in sports culture that kind of stuff goes on in the locker room all the time. Though the scenario you just described is quite homo, but really Ippo is straight his over enthusiasm does make him have wierd reactions to boxing, but thats more his love of boxing, and chasing the unattainable, which was again brought out this chapter. When ippo first says I was hoping for him to be ahead of me, with out the follow up I thought it was quite lame, but the second time it reminded me why I like ippo, aslong as he's not "strong" he continues to fight. Anyway ya just wanted to try to clear up some of that.
kenjiharima
2009-03-19, 21:20
Hmm...Seems RBJ has been suffering for partial memory lost. Kinda like Mick Foley long ago when Vader powerbomb him in the steal railings. Ouch, But in any case RBJ still has his good looks intact.
Part of me kinda died out on Ippo's fandom on Miyata. I feel like he's Hammer Nao now at his level of admiration on Miyata and Iam not going to the gay part again lolz. Ippo's got a great trainer and friends one thing that sets him apart from the Hamma in terms of skill.
Telcalipoca
2009-03-21, 10:36
with taka pissed off i will be amaze if the challenger lives after the first round
ShadowClone
2009-03-21, 10:46
This is Ippo's girl... they have some history with up and downs:
http://animefanatic.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kumi.gif
Kumi Mashiba... yeah... she's Mashiba's cute little sister.
Kumi and Ippo "hooking up" per se is seemingly doomed from the start, considering that the author made Kumi Mashiba's little sister. Even if Ippo weren't such a dweeb expressing his feelings to Kumi, he would still have the huuugggee obstacle in Mashiba to overcome in order to "legitimize" his and Kumi's relationship...and we all know how Mashiba reacts to anyone who even harms a hair on his little sister (aka Sawamura)! hehe :D
Nah, at this point I think Ippo could make a move on her without Mashiba raising much of an objection. He's more or less accepted them as a couple now, especially after Itagaki's lecture (the only useful thing Itagaki has ever done). It's Ippo/Morikawa who isn't ready for a relationship now, which sucks because Kumi deserves much better than a wishy-washy Miyata-obsessed guy like that. I bet if she dumped him he'd be much less hurt than he was when Miyata cancelled their match.
kenjiharima
2009-03-23, 07:32
As always it's Ippo x Miyata in the end. :heh:
that was kind of an abrupt end to the chapter. i highly doubt taht now Taka has seen the problem he will let the fight go easely. the one i feel sorry for is Mr Sakaguchi, not only is the poor old man having constipation but, now he's got Taka.
kenjiharima
2009-04-03, 02:02
It's always like that for Takamura. Fights go his way easy win. Hard fights, gets beaten badly then rages goes berserk and wins.
Unless the ref stops the fight due to his usual eye bleeding problem.
hiruma01
2009-04-03, 04:38
at onemanga.com you can see Hajime no Ippo series.
its a very cool manga specially when ippo defends his belt from strong challenger...
the real problem i see for ippo and mashibas sis is the two other much much more agressive girls who are after ippo, that reporter and itigakis little sister...... the doctor didn't seem put off by the idea of ippo either.
the real problem i see for ippo and mashibas sis is the two other much much more agressive girls who are after ippo, that reporter and itigakis little sister...... the doctor didn't seem put off by the idea of ippo either.
but, ippo only has eyes for Kumi-Chan.
Correction: Ippo only has eyes for Miyata-kun.
Correction: Kumi only has eyes for Miyata-kun.
When did this happen?!
Anyway, so 9th round and Takamura is losing by points. I LOL when I saw him pin the blame to the small guy (RRBJs coach).
NOOOOOO takamura..... ZOMG if he loses I will cry. and he didn't look as epic as before, kinda looked like miyata with takamura's head on top which is a disservice to the man's man.
kenjiharima
2009-04-04, 06:04
Correction: Ippo only has eyes for Miyata-kun.
QFT!!! This pairing will never die! :heh:
Unless Kumi steps in they way between them an gets Ippo first. :heh:
But I know soon in the ring there will more CLINCHING on the Ippo VS Miyata fight that thrown punches. :heh:
Telcalipoca
2009-04-04, 10:03
taka wil not loose he cant loose and if he were to loose it would be the worst match in the manga. the outcome of the match aside now that taka has found the culprit to his lost audience what will he do?
kenjiharima
2009-04-04, 13:11
Well it might turn like the David Eagle fight...
To bad here Takamura still needs to land something powerful on his opponent to KO him.
Yaoi_Daisuki
2009-04-09, 09:56
holy shlt . . is this a turning point for takamura? his first loss?
i guess takamura had been too invulerable for quite sometime. maybe its time for him to lose to a crappy opponent. and maybe finally a real sunday punch would be coming after his 1 loss, since almost everyone except itagaki had one
Miles Teg
2009-04-09, 10:02
holy shlt . . is this a turning point for takamura? his first loss?
i guess takamura had been too invulerable for quite sometime. maybe its time for him to lose to a crappy opponent. and maybe finally a real sunday punch would be coming after his 1 loss, since almost everyone except itagaki had one
One hit KO for Takamura :heh:
It's still not time for him to lose :D
Oh whoopdy-do, another one-hit KO from Takamura. Well excuuuuuse me for not giving him a standing ovation. ~_~
When I started reading Ippo back in 2003, I never, ever imagined I'd get to the point where I was criticizing the series more often than I was praising it. I guess nothing lasts for ever.
kenjiharima
2009-04-09, 12:03
One hit KO for Takamura :heh:
It's still not time for him to lose :D
TOLD YA!!! ;)
Ok where's the Ippo Vs RBJ fight? Or better yet where is Sendo's next fight?
Ippo Vs RBJ = Not gonna happen.
Sendo? Good question!
But the next fight is Mashiba's, right? Ippo promised to go cheer for him with Kumi so we might get to see a bit of that. And then maybe Ippo will think watching Miyata's match gave him courage and he'll finally tell Kumi he loves her... yeah, I'm dreaming.
Telcalipoca
2009-04-10, 10:23
egh thats how i thought the fight would end with one hit
i wouldnt mind a mashiba fight right now a good blood match is just what the series needs
side note remember when Sawamura won due to mashiba beating him up without the refs permission how after "winning" he went on a bike ride then got himslef on an accident?
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