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Bloody
2006-01-01, 00:38
What do you think about Mai Hime/Mai Otome story??

Sakuya
2006-01-01, 00:47
My HiME was incredibly awesome. I was put off by the fact that it's mecha but despite that, I gave it a try. Episode 1 was so-so and I kept telling myself that I wouldn't get the whole series. But after episode 1, I was hooked. And I continue to be hooked after that. I mean, I kept wanting to find out what happens next. It's that exciting. There were no boring episodes at all!

When it went into the second half of the series and got all dark, I was enjoying myself. And finally with the finale, I was sad that it's finally over. But I went back and rewatched my favorite parts.

My Otome is different. There is no hook that keeps me watching (at least there's no hook in the first few episodes). I'm just continueing to watch it because I was a My HiME fan. :uhoh:

Ansa
2006-01-01, 01:19
Unlike the above poster, the first episode is what hooked me. Mai's querky personality and Tate's little gleeful expression over Mai's breasts were outragously funny. Yet you could tell something sinister was at work and that it wasn't going to be an ordanary anime.

And I was right, Mai-HiME is my top five, it has it's flaws but it's one of the darkest stories I've ever seen (despite the ending) and it has given me great inspration for a book series I'm currently writing.

The Bloodlust Kid
2006-01-01, 02:18
I discovery of Mai-HiME was an accident.

I saw Mai-HiME and Marimite fanart by Eugene so I thought I give the anime a chance.

I originally wanted to see Marimite but I confused it with Mai-HiME. After the first episode I was inevitably hooked and HAD to watch later episodes.

Although I wasn't really expecting actual lesbians since I thought it was a fan thing.

TruongDinh
2006-01-01, 03:04
I think Mai Hime was really good because it wasn't a happy hippy girly ending like I first thought when I watch it and it really supprised me. As for Mai Otome I just watch to see girls fighting and cute(in my opinion) voice actor :heh: but right after ep 6 I was thinking this show is just trying to get male horny seriously(Yes I have a perverted mind).

Sakuya
2006-01-01, 03:13
In this series, I think the only down side is that one cheesy part in episode 26. Wait, I came up with another bad thing. The plot with the OL is a bit confusing. I'm still confused. :uhoh:

babuji
2006-01-01, 03:16
Yo, I watch Mai Otome and frankly speaking it was quite good.

They have good setting, character development and an interesting plot.

I wouldn't be surprise that Mai Otome might surpass Mai-Hime in popularity.

Many episodes are yet to be aired and things might get complex afterwards...surprises will be on its way.

;)

SuperKnuckles
2006-01-01, 03:34
I think Mai Hime was a great experiment more or less. The story didn't make too much sense in a way since everything happens in a modern day school. But the drama was top notch and the characters were all quite memorable.

Mai Otome just seems to be a much more tight-knit anime since its storyline is based on an entirely fictional world and circumstances. So the entire super-power-girls idea could actually be feasible and possibly logical.

NaNash|
2006-01-01, 03:38
The main reason I watch My-HiME is I see it as a comedy. (Well, that's how it is in the first few episodes.) Then even after the plot gets darker, I still continue to watch it because it's addicting.

Kensuke
2006-01-01, 04:45
I saw the trailer well before show started and it was the character designs and Yuki Kajiura's music (I'm a big fan of her music) that caught my interest. At first series was nice and interesting, but in the end it just went above and beyond of all of my expectations.
I have never waited any DVD as much as Mai-HiME's, first is scheduled March 28th.

Lost
2006-01-01, 11:10
Hi all, My first post in this forum :) :) Saw this thread and just couldn't resist... heh.

Well, what i really really liked about Mai-HiME was definately the last few episodes, the way the feeling/atmosphere of emptiness, desperation and loss, especially that of Mai and to a lesser extent, that of Mikoto, came across... all pulled off very nicely, in such a way that it just jumped of the screen and pulled at your heart.. (well, heh... can't help being an emotional guy)

In fact, I'll say that the series had alot of emotional punch... really made you feel... which is not something JUST any Anime can acheive.

Ironically, I was introduced to Mai-HiME by Mai Otome.... aye, thats rite... i started watching Mai HiME after I started on Mai Otome, which btw, I just whacked randomly while searching for a new anime to watch...

As for Mai Otome, wonderful quality of animation, great voice acting and songs, has it share of good humour and not too bad action.. but i must say its starting to drag abit... tho i agree with you, babuji... theres still a lot more to go... a lot more to (hopefully) enjoy.

Haha.. pretty long first post. :heh:

Tremalkinger
2006-01-01, 21:10
In response to the title of the thread: Yes. And no, they are not a minority.

Forever
2006-01-01, 21:31
I thought mai-hime/mai-otome is a shounen anime?

Tatiana Razajev
2006-01-01, 21:40
My-HiME ranks as one of my favorite anime series. I love how it balanced the focus between multiple girls and how more than one person actually mattered. I also love the way it progressed and ended. Mikoto Minagi herself is what hooked me on the series at first of course.

babuji
2006-01-02, 00:05
I thought mai-hime/mai-otome is a shounen anime?


Fantasy and magical girls.

babuji
2006-01-02, 00:06
but some says yuri.

Starks
2006-01-02, 00:18
I watched Mai-HiME cause I thought it looked cool, there also wasn't anything else to watch at the time that I liked. When all was said and done, I was waiting for a sequel or second season. I absolutely loved the series. I hadn't followed a series that closely since Chrno Crusade and Fullmetal Alchemist back in '03/'04.

I was hooked (with fanboyish fervor) on 4 series in 2005.

Mai-HiME
Mahou Sensei Negima!
Bleach

and of course

Mai-Otome

lone_wolf
2006-01-02, 00:48
I thought mai-hime/mai-otome is a shounen anime?

It may actually be considered Seinen since it airs at 2:30am. This is considered the 'Otaku hour' and they usually air more mature anime around that time.

--Lone Wolf

Akuma-sama
2006-01-02, 01:18
I started watching Mai HiME around the same time I started to download animes with Bittorrent, so it's a good memory x2. A friend of mine recommended it, and at the time we were at episode 4... :D
Needless to say, instant hook. :heh:


I was hooked (with fanboyish fervor) on 4 series in 2005.

Mai-HiME
Mahou Sensei Negima!
Bleach

and of course

Mai-Otome

Just that? Mine:

Mai HiME
Mai Otome
Shuffle
Bleach
Blood+
Rozen Maiden ~Traümend~
Air

Heh.

NaNash|
2006-01-02, 01:29
I started watching Mai HiME around the same time I started to download animes with Bittorrent, so it's a good memory x2. A friend of mine recommended it, and at the time we were at episode 4... :D
Needless to say, instant hook. :heh:



Just that? Mine:

Mai HiME
Mai Otome
Shuffle
Bleach
Blood+
Rozen Maiden ~Traümend~
Air

Heh.

Mine:

Bleach
Nanoha As
Monster
Shuffle
Suzuka
Canvas 2
Hell Girl
Karin
Mai HiME
Mai Otome
Rozen Maiden ~Traümend~

Unlicensed one.

Some are licensed one and unconivent to put here.

The Bloodlust Kid
2006-01-02, 03:26
It may actually be considered Seinen since it airs at 2:30am. This is considered the 'Otaku hour' and they usually air more mature anime around that time.

--Lone Wolf
You got to be kidding me. :twitch: Thank God for Bittorrent.

GuardianAngelJoan
2006-01-02, 03:40
Mai-hime was awesome. most it use action and discuss(talk about clue or hint)..
also i had Mai-hime dvd(asia).

Mai-otome was good and different. But I till continue to watch it.

-KarumA-
2006-01-02, 03:46
i made a friend of mine watch, he's a guy..
but he stopped at the ending, because it got really depressing and everyone seemed to 'die' >.>;

Lost
2006-01-02, 06:52
i made a friend of mine watch, he's a guy..
but he stopped at the ending, because it got really depressing and everyone seemed to 'die' >.>;

Haha.. I loved the depressing parts, but only because I knew the ending was gonna be a happy one :D

Tho I remember getting really angry when Akane-chan's MIP died, right after they cemented their love for each other. :frustrated: Any one else?

YoureMyHiro
2006-01-02, 07:36
Hime - It was awesome, strong plotline and plenty of FS for the fellas although it pulled an anime cliche` at the end but thats what it took to make me and Im sure alot of other watchers happy god damn it.

Otome - Its progressing well, just like Hime did. Im looking forward to how each character is integrated into the story.

-KarumA-
2006-01-02, 10:21
Haha.. I loved the depressing parts, but only because I knew the ending was gonna be a happy one :D

Tho I remember getting really angry when Akane-chan's MIP died, right after they cemented their love for each other. :frustrated: Any one else?

i had to cry in that episode, i thought it was also mean, Akane was cool, i liked her Child, was like a huge mix machine :heh:

i also like dher weapons

i stayed hooked though i had an idea that HiME would never have a true happy ending, even after everything Mai and Tate still have Shiho between them.. poor Mai

also i never thought that Shiho was a HiME, that was quite a suprise, i loved HiME its one of my favorites, i love that pie bakking episode XD

i found HiME when looking through the animesuki list, the title caught my attention so i read the info thing from animenfo, first i thought it was kinda boring like those short series that in the end have no fun in it at all, i downloaded the first episode to see what it was and i got hooked!

Otome, wathed episode 1 because i was curious, since i am a HiME fan and it has the original cast in it
i was hooked from the moment Shizuru and Akane jumped out of the limousine :D i loved that part onwards

but it is still in development, so i am sure it will get really dramamtic etc. like HiME , mayb even more

but to inform you, i am not a guy ^^

babuji
2006-01-02, 10:27
Just look at your profile....hehehe, so you are a girl from Holland..how old??

Sorry...off topic again.

-KarumA-
2006-01-02, 10:49
Just look at your profile....hehehe, so you are a girl from Holland..how old??

Sorry...off topic again.

i turned 18 in november :P

also off topic, nada... :heh:

okay back on topic, how were you guys introdued to HiME :heh:
what do you think of the echiness, i always wonder that, do you go all *blush* or what

Sunsh
2006-01-02, 11:58
I first knowed about HiME while reading an anime magazine, and that spoiled me to death :heh:
I buyed the fansub (in my country anime fansubs from internet was burned to cd and sold to fans) And after ep. 9 preview, I was like :twitch:
After that, I really hooked to the series (although I've known the story :heh: )

For Otome.. well, I watched it because I'm a HiME fan, too. :)
Oh, btw, I'm 16 years old girl :D

DeuceTrick
2006-01-02, 13:01
What's that old saying... "The Internet: Where men are men, women are men, and twelve-year-olds are FBI agents."

okay back on topic, how were you guys introdued to HiME :heh:

Whenever the first episode of any show comes up on the BitTorrent lists, I look it up on Animenfo and decide if I want to watch it based on the art style and the story synopsis. Mai HiME looked promising, so I gave it a shot... And I stopped after three episodes because it got on my nerves. :D

A year or so later, a friend of mine was gushing about the show's soundtrack, and transferred all the fansubs to me as a gesture between buddies. On a whim, I decided to marathon the entire show, from start to finish. By sunrise I was definitely a fan, and now I'm watching Mai Otome religiously. Go fig.

what do you think of the echiness, i always wonder that, do you go all *blush* or what

Actually, I run to the bathroom, put on my paper hippopotamus mask and start dancing around while whipping myself and doing the hokey-pokey with air fresheners... Uh, yeah, I blush. Right.

wingsky
2006-01-02, 13:09
I started watching Mai Otome when ep1 was out for about half a week... Friend introduced me to PPD and it wasn't my thing at all, so was looking over the AnimeSuki torrent list and saw that Otome had a lot of seeders/leechers (how i choose my anime, but i'm proud to say I never watched an episode of naruto :D).

I would have liked to watch MH, but it's licenced now... I was too late! :(

Catgirls
2006-01-02, 15:14
Well, considering the ratio of men to women that actually watch anime, I would assume there are quite a few guys that watched My-HiME and are currently watching My-Otome. Story aside, there are quite a few elements that would draw guys to both shows. Girls x Girls, cute uniforms, and Girls x Girls just to name a few.

shinigami1101
2006-01-02, 16:14
a friend of mine came accross Mai HiME by accident and told me about it and i got hooked. and he got HiME before it was licensed so he just transfered it to my external hard drive.

reasons why i am hooked:
plot: great plot
music: great music, my current boot-up music is the Alyssa Sears singing "Its only the fairy tale"
characterization: less "flat" characters than some anime, i usually cant put a character into a single category in HiME and Otome

DeuceTrick
2006-01-02, 18:35
Story aside, there are quite a few elements that would draw guys to both shows. Girls x Girls, cute uniforms, and Girls x Girls just to name a few.

"Cute" is really not the word for some of those getups in Otome. Natsuki's outfit is neat, and I like Midori's mask, but Shizuru... I can't help but feel that her uniform was designed by a bitter old tailor with a harlequin fetish.

Catgirls
2006-01-02, 18:39
"Cute" is really not the word for some of those getups in Otome. Natsuki's outfit is neat, and I like Midori's mask, but Shizuru... I can't help but feel that her uniform was designed by a bitter old tailor with a harlequin fetish.Hmmm yes, maybe my liberal use of "cute" was a bit too broad. You make some valid points.

DragoonKain3
2006-01-02, 19:46
Mai Hime was good, but the Deus ex Machina ending really bugged me. I hated the 'reset' in Dual!, I still hate it in Hime. Both were good anime, but it plummeted down out of my top lists just because of that.

Now the only reason why I am watching Otome is because of three reasons: Shizuru, Midori, and Mai.

-Shizuru because she looks the cutest IMO (shame she ain't straight though, she and Reito looked good together)
-Midori because with her hotblooded personality that is typical of male shounen protagonists, she was the coolest IMO in Hime (still is in Otome with dual wielding katanas to boot ^^)
-Mai because I want to know why she hasn't appeared yet.

If it weren't for those three, the big yuri implications would make me stop watching the series. And oh yeah, I'm a guy. >_>

shikamarufoo
2006-01-02, 19:55
I started watching Mai Hime when I was looking for anime on animesuki. Kept clicking on anime series and check their stats on animenfo.com and saw that mai hime had good ratings, so I thought, "why not try this?" I watched it until then end and loved how it got all crazy and dark during the end! Now I am watching Mai Otome because I want more of Natsuki, and it seems to be able to live up to the Mai name. I hope they make more Mai or a 2nd season of Mai Hime.

Lost
2006-01-03, 01:10
i had to cry in that episode, i thought it was also mean, Akane was cool, i liked her Child, was like a huge mix machine :heh:

Exactly!! I got really angry because it seemed that their new found love was snatched away.. Their romance cruelly interupted by Miyu. Grrr. Miyu became my no. 1 enemy.. until she did that wonderful anti-matter stun in Ep 25.

i stayed hooked though i had an idea that HiME would never have a true happy ending, even after everything Mai and Tate still have Shiho between them.. poor Mai

Thats true, when it ends, the characters essentially still carry on with their lives, with all the usual teenage issues...

what do you think of the echiness, i always wonder that, do you go all *blush* or what

As for the ecchi-ness, I dun know, can it really be considered ecchi? After all, they dun exactly show anything... Just some major implications. Still, the yuri overtones make me uncomfortable... :twitch:

No I dun blush. I just check that my room's door is closed. :D Since it has become popular to disclose one's sex, I'm a guy.

No, really, I am.

NaNash|
2006-01-03, 01:22
Actually I some sort of expect the last HiME in My-HiME to be Shiho. (I didn't read the manga beforehand, I swear. But I do read it after My-HiME finished airing. :D )

How I knew about My-HiME? Actually I think I forgot already.:) But I do regularly check on AniDB to check on wat's new and wat type of anime is wat I want. I think there's where i knew of My-HiME.

As for My-Otome, it's a frd's recommendation. I dun even knew there was a My-Star-Maid(My Otome) at first. My frd is the one who saw it and told me abt the news.

YoureMyHiro
2006-01-03, 03:25
what do you think of the echiness, i always wonder that, do you go all *blush* or what

Unfortunately I dont go *blush,* I go "F*ck Yeah!" followed by nerdily hopping onto my pc to capture screenshots and make useless wallpapers.

DeuceTrick
2006-01-03, 04:26
Unfortunately I dont go *blush,* I go "F*ck Yeah!" followed by nerdily hopping onto my pc to capture screenshots and make useless wallpapers.

Post these wallpapers of yours on the image thread, if you think they're any good. Could always use more stuff to look at.

Now what I'm really interested in are female reactions to the fanservice in HiME/Otome, if they're even on the same level. As a person who (like most healthy young men) has been inundated with much more risque material, I just don't find the fanservice-y scenes worth getting hot and bothered over. In fact, when it doesn't somehow humanize the characters (like Nina being ticklish, or Natsuki having a huge lingerie collection, or Erstin being all gracious about the imagined lesbian come-on), it's downright irritating. When I want porn, I watch porn...

Anyway, I'm not seeking to derail this thread, but the opposite perspective would be nice as a point of comparison. Maybe we might find the difference between fans isn't so shocking after all.

(Also, because I do love bandwagons: I'm 18, male and TOTALLY HOT.)

Lost
2006-01-03, 05:20
Anyway, I'm not seeking to derail this thread, but the opposite perspective would be nice as a point of comparison. Maybe we might find the difference between fans isn't so shocking after all.

Yeah... I must admit I'm curious... Hope we're not sliding off-topic.

Lith Maethor
2006-01-03, 06:07
mind if i butt in? ...guy here and responsible for introducing mai hime (and once it is over, mai otome as well) to quite a few people ...some guys, some girls...

...i was kinda surprised to find out we all liked and disliked pretty much the same things ...the dark undertones (well... in the beginning the darkness was not in-your-face) ...the music ...the characters (natsuki, mikoto and nagi on the plus side, mai, tate and yukariko on the minus side ...just to mention the top 3 of each) ...the hilarious scenes (who can forget the lingerie stealing orphans?) ...the fanservice (although this is more of a mai-otome quality) ...the maid outfits (that make mai-otome a lot less fun to watch)

...and yes, most of us were hooked on mai-hime from episode 1 ...those that were not, came about around episode 3 ...mai-otome on the other hand... well, its more of an acquired taste (things would be different if we had not watched mai-hime, i am sure)

...and no, nobody blushes here either ...i guess it would be kinda weird, given the fact i am 25 and those i dragged in are in the 20-30 range

babuji
2006-01-03, 06:35
i turned 18 in november :P

also off topic, nada... :heh:

okay back on topic, how were you guys introdued to HiME :heh:
what do you think of the echiness, i always wonder that, do you go all *blush* or what



hey wanna be my GF...


I was introduced into this anime (Mai otome) when I read the summary. Not to mention I have seen the opening theme with the vidoe that actually gave me a big boost to get this series. The cuteness of the girls is also one of the main factor. About blushing, I will not get that because I watch a few different anime like ikkitousen and I am immune to blushing.

hat_hair
2006-01-03, 22:41
I had this show recommended to me by someone, and then our anime society got hold of the complete fansubs, so I copied it. It was, at first, simply a decent show, but then it improved around episode 8. Looking back, the main thing I liked was the fairly natural progression of the plot and characters. It didn't feel to forced, and apart from the disappointing Deus Ex Machina ending, it led to a good story.

As for the guy/girl thing, this show is quite squarely aimed at guys anyway. Otome even more so. Especially considering that 90% of the cast are cute high school girls, and there's plenty of fanservice. Remember the karaoke bit? I doubt an anime aimed at girls would have a scene quite like that.

In fact, when it doesn't somehow humanize the characters, it's downright irritating.


That I agree with. Fanservicey shows without a good reason for it annoy me to no end. Mostly because a lot of those shows think that fanservice makes up for poor writing, and are just wish-fulfillment almost to the point of porn anyway.

-KarumA-
2006-01-04, 09:41
hey wanna be my GF...




ROFL :heh: one word : no..
dont be dissapointed though, not one guy has ever touched my lips XD
.. maybe some girls :heh: but that was just for fun to make people stare XD

quite some answers, i always wondered how guys cope with such things, in the start when i started watching anime i was like.. do guys really watch this, some things are just girly like lol

as for the echiness, for me it is no problem, i got a lot of tips in dressing and such from Mai HiME, witch i will always be thankfull for, i changed my wardrope from black to a more sexy, feminine one ^^ and i am now looking over for lingery, i am no longr ashamed of buying bra's with my mother or when i see one i go all, this is to echi and this to stupid ^^, it made me more feminine :D

also for the echiness with me, i myself watch most of my anim in private, mostly because my parents go uts if i do a marathon downstairs, my dad liked Gundam Seed, but still he doesnt get difficult parts, but heck my parents know nothing of the japanese language and my mom hardly speaks english, they're both from foreign countries, my dad is indonesian my mom is african ^^

I am not really bothered by it all, but then again, Mai HiME mae me thought of the possibility of me being gay, that also because i am affraid of 'men', i have been raped by my grandfather when i was young an freak out when a guy puts a hand on me or asks me to go steady in real life, but that doesnt mean i dont like men ither, i still drool at pretty boys so that means im not completely gay either ^^
Mai HiME changed a lot for me, it made me think over my own life

babuji
2006-01-04, 10:39
ROFL :heh: one word : no..
dont be dissapointed though, not one guy has ever touched my lips XD
.. maybe some girls :heh: but that was just for fun to make people stare XD

quite some answers, i always wondered how guys cope with such things, in the start when i started watching anime i was like.. do guys really watch this, some things are just girly like lol

as for the echiness, for me it is no problem, i got a lot of tips in dressing and such from Mai HiME, witch i will always be thankfull for, i changed my wardrope from black to a more sexy, feminine one ^^ and i am now looking over for lingery, i am no longr ashamed of buying bra's with my mother or when i see one i go all, this is to echi and this to stupid ^^, it made me more feminine :D

also for the echiness with me, i myself watch most of my anim in private, mostly because my parents go uts if i do a marathon downstairs, my dad liked Gundam Seed, but still he doesnt get difficult parts, but heck my parents know nothing of the japanese language and my mom hardly speaks english, they're both from foreign countries, my dad is indonesian my mom is african ^^

I am not really bothered by it all, but then again, Mai HiME mae me thought of the possibility of me being gay, that also because i am affraid of 'men', i have been raped by my grandfather when i was young an freak out when a guy puts a hand on me or asks me to go steady in real life, but that doesnt mean i dont like men ither, i still drool at pretty boys so that means im not completely gay either ^^
Mai HiME changed a lot for me, it made me think over my own life





I feel really sorry for your misfortune fate. Anyway, you don't need to tell that you know. Not many will believe even though I do believe you. I might not know how you feel about your past but I do know what you have been through. Just put the past aside and start over a new life regardless what others say. About not becoming my GF..it is alright since you have such a traumatic experience when you were at a young tender age. Can't blame you. If you wanna talk I will be there to lend an ear.:)

Lost
2006-01-04, 10:55
I'm sorry. What can we do but press on with this thing called life?

On a lighter note, this female friend of mine, who essentially was the one who forced me to watch Mai HiME, told me that Mai-HiME's Shizuru made her gay...

That I agree with. Fanservicey shows without a good reason for it annoy me to no end. Mostly because a lot of those shows think that fanservice makes up for poor writing, and are just wish-fulfillment almost to the point of porn anyway.

But yeah like hat_hair says ecchiness commonly is really just fan-service, something that most of the time has the sole purpose of just superficially pleasing the viewers. Would be much better if they focused on developing real, solid romances.. stuff with emotions, relationships with depth... then ecchiness would be a tool to forward that romance, and not just a crowd-pleaser.

Even then, romances without ecchi is much much prefered. :heh: Just watched Samurai 7, so can't really get the budding romance between Kirara and Katsushiro out of my head.

Diodati
2006-01-04, 11:39
Holy crap KarumA, you have my complete sympathy about your past ordeals.
However I'm insanely jealous of your ethnic heritage - part Indonesian and part African, you must look exotic with a capital E! ;)


On a lighter note, this female friend of mine, who essentially was the one who forced me to watch Mai HiME, told me that Mai-HiME's Shizuru made her gay...
That (and this) may read extremely strangely but for some reason I'm not really that surprised. A lot of (younger) gay anime characters, are often presented as scared sh*tless about being 'found out'. And I suppose that will strike a level with certain young girls - in a way that might not be 'logically' understood by completely straight people or people whose lives are comparatively 'together'.

Still the way you summarised it did make me laugh a bit. God bless Shizuru, though I doubt an anime character could ''make'' someone gay.

Or maybe....it's the accent.....it's just...:love:

Now what I'm really interested in are female reactions to the fanservice in HiME/Otome, if they're even on the same level. As a person who (like most healthy young men) has been inundated with much more risque material, I just don't find the fanservice-y scenes worth getting hot and bothered over.
*Sam and Max moment* Ooooh pick me pick me!

It doesn't bother me particularly. Certain aspects do make me roll my eyes at the sort of immature toilet humour that gets included - but HiME managed to spin it more in a self mocking way - Natsuki's lingerie and prudish behaviour had fanservice written all over it, but it provided another side to a seemingly cold and detached person. It was nice to see the ''cool'' character stripped of pretty much all her fake confidence. Actually episode 4 was probably the episode that made me more a HiME 'fan', so I've no idea what that says about me.

For Otome, hmmm, it's okay but the fanservice often seems to serve less of a purpose and might irritate more. Although the poolside ShizNat thing I quite liked ( :D ), but that's just me. It was nice to get a 'physical' shoujo-ai moment.
Personally I'd rather things get a bit more serious when a show hits half way; it can be a bit jarring when we get a very dark episode followed by one crammed full of silliness.

BadLuck
2006-01-04, 12:10
Well, I thought Mai HiME was absolutely brilliant. The first story up to episode 16 was good, but nothing great... but I liked the characters and the style of the show (not to mention the music was awesome)... but 16+ was just... gut-wrenchingly, heart-breakingly wonderful. The way... ah... what happens actually happens was done so perfectly.

Mai Otome, so far, is more charming and cute and I'm thoroughly enjoying it - Moreso than even Mai HiME. Like I said, HiME 1-16's story was good, so right now Otome 1-13 is better. I kind of hope Otome doesn't take a turn like HiME did. I thought HiME was so... well, I don't know how to word it without spoiling it... but the way everything went down in HiME was really painful to watch. I wouldn't mind if Otome didn't do that.

-KarumA-
2006-01-04, 12:28
ooy no need to go all.. oowh how sad an such, i have grown over it though i am still trying over my guy 'fear' ^^

I kind of hope Otome doesn't take a turn like HiME did

i am hoping that as well, but one way or another it might turn into it

if there were a war, the otome would be forced to fight each other, but it is impossible for an Otome to return back to life after she'd died, that way it kinda makes it extra sad..

the fact that HiME had al characters going back to life was kinda.. well un expected and spoiled the sensation for most of them, but then again i am glad that they are back again, specially Akane and Natsuki/Shizuru, they have a chance, but it isnt like all problems are out of th world, they still have typical teenage problems but the story doesnt follow up that far

DeuceTrick
2006-01-04, 12:50
On a lighter note, this female friend of mine, who essentially was the one who forced me to watch Mai HiME, told me that Mai-HiME's Shizuru made her gay...

God, that's brilliant.
Someone with photoshop skills-- start the "Shizuru has made you gay" meme.

Matrim
2006-01-04, 13:05
I should have said that earlier but isn't the thread title absolutely hilarious considering we are in the Mai HiME/Otome forum? ::)
To say the truth I knew virtually nothing about MH before watching it except that Yuki Kajiura would be in charge of the music and that it was about some school. Of course, the detail about the music was more than enough to spark my interest but I was very surprised to find myself so addicted to this series from the very beginning. So far no other anime has inspired me to find so much about it, write regularly on a forum dedicated to it and even write a fanfic story. ;) Objectively speaking I have watched better series but none of them had made me rewatch episodes from them as often as Mai HiME. I must have watched the final few minutes of episode six at least 50 times for no other reason but Midori being so cool and ridiculously funny at the same time. Talk about being a fanboy... :)
Too bad the ending was so anti-climactic and disappointing.

As for Mai Otome, if it wasn't for the great quality of animation and my desire to see more of my favourite characters I am pretty sure I would have stopped watching it by now and would have opted for waiting until the series is finished before trying again.

Pleroma
2006-01-04, 13:57
Mai-Hime just has an oddly addictive quality that is hard to explain. The large cast of characters, each with their own well defined background and personality as well as the superb animation is what got me to stick with it until episode 8. After that I have to admit the plot got rather bumpy until episode 17 when the show really hit its stride. If only they had not messed up the ending ><

As far Otome, I feel that it is a much better show thus far. Thinking back to Hime around this point we didn't really have that many plot lines going and the foreshadowing was minimal. In Otome we allready have a whole new world that si being developed, we have Ashwald and Black Valley, we have the Midory back story, the mystery of Mai as well as the matter of the true princess, the identity of Miyu, the unknown pilars, the potential for war and Nagi's plotting. So many things developing at once and so many mysteries lurking behind the surface that I am thoroughly enjoying the expection every episode builds up.

As far as fanservice, as long as its with well liked characters its all good.

PS: Shizuru makes guys wish they were lesbians.

BadLuck
2006-01-04, 15:35
What made Mai HiME so brilliant was that I just wasn't expecting for what happened to happen. I mean, I knew that something big was brewing, that was obvious... but the way they set you up... I don't know about anyone else, but when everything turned out the way it did, it left me feeling really shocked.

It's really pretty impressive the way that starting from episode 1, the whole thing was just a setup for what happens in 20-26. Every bit of character development was just there to CRUSH YOU by what ended up happening.

Like I said, just gut-wrenchingly, heart-breakingly brilliant. I don't think I'd even want to watch it again.

That being said, if the same thing happens to Arika that happened to Mai, I don't think it'd be as painful to watch. While I actually like Arika more as a character, Mai drew a lot more sympathy and even empathy from me. Everything Mai had to go through just wasn't right, I felt really bad for her. Especially since she was the one trying the hardest to prevent it.

Sinestra
2006-01-04, 23:21
Iv watched both and find both of them enjoyable the mix of action and fights are really good plus there is just something about pretty girls whoopin ass, Also it kind of touching in Mai Hime how they did the romance i think they are both very creative and both are on my list 2 of my fav series so yes guys definetly watch the show even if was ment for females mainly i still would have watched it i have several animes that lean heavily towards females and i have like most of them the thing that i like anime is that gender doesnt matter as long as you like what you are watching

Tremalkinger
2006-01-05, 00:18
It doesn't bother me particularly. Certain aspects do make me roll my eyes at the sort of immature toilet humour that gets included - but HiME managed to spin it more in a self mocking way - Natsuki's lingerie and prudish behaviour had fanservice written all over it, but it provided another side to a seemingly cold and detached person. It was nice to see the ''cool'' character stripped of pretty much all her fake confidence. Actually episode 4 was probably the episode that made me more a HiME 'fan', so I've no idea what that says about me.

Well put. I remember as I watched episode four, I felt like on some level, I should be disliking the series, but I was too busy laughing to worry. Natsuki shooting Nagi over the railing sent me into gut bursting, rolling on the floor hysterics. By the time the tenticle porn had started in, I was already hooked :rolleyes:

MattAlchemy
2006-01-05, 01:01
I didn't know that guys watching MH/MO is strange. I thought it was normal, I'm a guy.:heh: I just think the anime is funny, and I go"HAH! Hilarious!"

Lost
2006-01-05, 01:37
That (and this) may read extremely strangely but for some reason I'm not really that surprised. A lot of (younger) gay anime characters, are often presented as scared sh*tless about being 'found out'. And I suppose that will strike a level with certain young girls - in a way that might not be 'logically' understood by completely straight people or people whose lives are comparatively 'together'.
Well put! I suppose Shizuru's looks play a part too...

Still the way you summarised it did make me laugh a bit. God bless Shizuru, though I doubt an anime character could ''make'' someone gay.

Or maybe....it's the accent.....it's just...:love:
:D

In Otome we allready have a whole new world that si being developed, we have Ashwald and Black Valley, we have the Midory back story, the mystery of Mai as well as the matter of the true princess, the identity of Miyu, the unknown pilars, the potential for war and Nagi's plotting. So many things developing at once and so many mysteries lurking behind the surface that I am thoroughly enjoying the expection every episode builds up.

Very true... I can't wait for everything to be revealled; just hope we won't be let down... that many plotlines may end up bungling the series.

Mai-HiME didn't have too many such plotlines (or at least it didnt fully develop the other plotlines -- Searrs, the HiME carnival, HiME star etc etc.) What it really focused on was simply character develoment and relationships... and they pulled it off very well -- stimulating all sorts of emotions from sympathy to empathy, tears to laughter. Beautiful!

Right now Mai HiME is No.1 in my top three anime list.

Lost
2006-01-05, 01:48
ooy no need to go all.. oowh how sad an such, i have grown over it though i am still trying over my guy 'fear' ^^
I admire your spirit KarumA... Ganbatte!!

So far no other anime has inspired me to find so much about it, write regularly on a forum dedicated to it and even write a fanfic story.
Hear Hear...

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Man... This cool Quote function is getting the better of me..

Starks
2006-01-05, 03:21
Otome is probably gonna be the last great series I'll see for a while...

MattAlchemy
2006-01-05, 03:25
Do you think there's going to be a 3rd series? Somewhat like Nagi shoes up out of nowhere at the end and says"It's not over. Mwahaha!" :p

-KarumA-
2006-01-05, 05:45
Do you think there's going to be a 3rd series? Somewhat like Nagi shoes up out of nowhere at the end and says"It's not over. Mwahaha!" :p

you do know that HiME was the THIRD chapter, we havent seen any of the 1st and second yet XD

keep up the hope! :heh:

maybe we'll se mashiro's time HiME vrsion

Lost
2006-01-06, 02:17
Does anyone know why they (Sunrise, i guess) made HiME the third chapter?

-KarumA-
2006-01-06, 16:05
Does anyone know why they (Sunrise, i guess) made HiME the third chapter?

if they make Mashiro pop up as someone that has been throught he ritual before, it wouldnt make sence if it was called 1st chapter

the chapters are the HiME Festivals, Mashiro came out from the 2nd chapter

if they didnt do it like that it wouldnt make sence for Mashiro

spcially if Reito goes all, *imitating * :eyebrow: "why all the kagutsuchi users.."

*or however you spell it*

i am hoping for the 2nd chapter and the first, i wanna know what Mashiro has been through and how it all began

Soluzar
2006-01-06, 16:28
I think mostly guys watch it. All the fans I know are male. They watch it for the bishoujo factor, at least partially. I'm a guy. I was introduced to Mai-HiME when an acquaintance of mine from another forum started using a Tokiha Mai avatar. He's got excellent taste in anime, and his signature identified Mai-HiME as his current favourite, so I had to watch.

I'm not enjoying Otome so much, though.

Tempest35
2006-01-06, 17:45
Only real thing I have to complain about is why are the males so freakin useless...the ones who really did anything were Nagi and Reito in MH and in MO it's Sergay and Nagi again. Lil imps always survive for some reason...:heh:

MattAlchemy
2006-01-06, 20:26
If you mean why are they so weak, Tate fought at the end. If he wouldn't be there for Mai at the end, then it's "dftjknfd" for Mai.:heh:

lone_wolf
2006-01-06, 20:38
If you mean why are they so weak, Tate fought at the end. If he wouldn't be there for Mai at the end, then it's "dftjknfd" for Mai.:heh:


Yes, but who bailed him out at the end?....yes, it was Mai. He was about to get this arse handed to him and Mai blocked it.:heh:


--Lone Wolf

Lost
2006-01-06, 21:09
if they make Mashiro pop up as someone that has been throught he ritual before, it wouldnt make sence if it was called 1st chapter

the chapters are the HiME Festivals, Mashiro came out from the 2nd chapter

if they didnt do it like that it wouldnt make sence for Mashiro

spcially if Reito goes all, *imitating * :eyebrow: "why all the kagutsuchi users.."

*or however you spell it*

i am hoping for the 2nd chapter and the first, i wanna know what Mashiro has been through and how it all began

Oooo.. ic.. thanks thanks. :) I wonder how they would pull it off, showing the first and second HiME festivals.. Afterall, we already know basically what happens.. So I guess they cant just follow the same formula as Mai HiME. Yup, it'll be interesting to see how they develop it. If they do choose to do so in the first place. :heh:

Bloody
2006-01-06, 22:10
ohh yeah... i forgot to post my comment too XD

I just dont know why I like this Anime So much (My Hime) , but maybe is because the graphics and the story is interesting , when I watched this anime I was surprised and it makes me laugh sometime

But the real reason is... because of Shizuru and Natsuki :heh: , I cannot watched this series without them .... it makes me uncomfortable without them :heh:

Mai Otome is.... cool :heh: , But I must finished these sries before I gonna say something :heh:

Thewanderer
2006-01-07, 01:05
I'm not quite sure I understand why ppl say mainly males watch it. I mean, it has female main chars in it. Cirtainly males don't view them as role models or think they're that cool...

Besides, what would they view a show with mainly males in it? For females? Riiiight...

babuji
2006-01-07, 10:45
Only real thing I have to complain about is why are the males so freakin useless...the ones who really did anything were Nagi and Reito in MH and in MO it's Sergay and Nagi again. Lil imps always survive for some reason...:heh:


Hmmm..Rad is doing good too for a villian. He is a male cyborg.

-KarumA-
2006-01-07, 13:14
Oooo.. ic.. thanks thanks. :) I wonder how they would pull it off, showing the first and second HiME festivals.. Afterall, we already know basically what happens.. So I guess they cant just follow the same formula as Mai HiME. Yup, it'll be interesting to see how they develop it. If they do choose to do so in the first place. :heh:

do you remember when Mashiro goes all Midori style, its in the end when she tries to fight Reito, she transforms in somehting awsome, her true form.. visible for only seconds

( an episode at the end when Natsuki is already at Shizuru's little house and the rainbow collors flow up in the sky)

remember her weapon she had on her arm.. that is a reason for me, i am interested int he HiME weapons and i would like to know more kinds of weapons as well XD

hat_hair
2006-01-08, 01:36
I'm not quite sure I understand why ppl say mainly males watch it. I mean, it has female main chars in it. Cirtainly males don't view them as role models or think they're that cool...

Besides, what would they view a show with mainly males in it? For females? Riiiight...

Well, people say mostly guys watch it because it's true.
It's not really about how many characters of each gender there are, or which ones are main characters, especially when dealing with an older audience. And yes, plenty of guys can think girls can be cool, myself included. Ask any guy who's seen Ghost in the Shell, for a start.

A show with a cast consisting of guys could be one of two types. (Hello simplification).
Are the guys all fighting each other? Probably aimed at boys.
Are the guys all pretty? Probably aimed at girls.

Shows aimed at girls tend to be one of two types (and yes, I'm going to generalise again here), magical girl shows for a younger audience, or a romance.
Romance stories work better with an even mix of characters, rather than a blatant disproportion, which leads to a harem anime. Which, of course, are normally aimed at guys.

pianocello
2006-01-08, 02:20
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. It's like going to the Shuffle! forum and asking if any guy watches it. Of course, most of the people watching Mai Hime/Otome are guys - it's specificially aimed for guys. That doesn't mean that females don't watch it. A better thread would be ask whether there are any girls watching this show.

MattAlchemy
2006-01-08, 02:31
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. It's like going to the Shuffle! forum and asking if any guy watches it. Of course, most of the people watching Mai Hime/Otome are guys - it's specificially aimed for guys. That doesn't mean that females don't watch it. A better thread would be ask whether there are any girls watching this show.
Well now we also know some guys love to produce stuff like episode6.:heh:

D3athScythe
2006-01-08, 03:34
I'm not quite sure I understand why ppl say mainly males watch it. I mean, it has female main chars in it. Cirtainly males don't view them as role models or think they're that cool...

1. We don't need to view them as role models, we like girls =)
2. whatever the gender, if the plot and graphics are great, male/female
doesn't matter, we'll just watch it =P :D

Lost
2006-01-08, 05:36
do you remember when Mashiro goes all Midori style, its in the end when she tries to fight Reito, she transforms in somehting awsome, her true form.. visible for only seconds

( an episode at the end when Natsuki is already at Shizuru's little house and the rainbow collors flow up in the sky)

remember her weapon she had on her arm.. that is a reason for me, i am interested int he HiME weapons and i would like to know more kinds of weapons as well XD

Yep I remember that confrontation, the one she lost and was hung up after that or something right? But I tot she used Fumi to fight for her... Dun really remember her carrying anything. I'll watch that episode again when I get my MaiHiME back from my friend.

1. We don't need to view them as role models, we like girls =)
2. whatever the gender, if the plot and graphics are great, male/female
doesn't matter, we'll just watch it =P

Hear Hear!

wingsky
2006-01-08, 10:33
I managed to get hold of MH on dvd from someone, and i've been watching it all weekend.... It's nice to catch up with everyone else on this board :P

I'm not sure if I prefer MO over MH, can't tell yet.. oh well its all good fun.

BTW, am I wrong not to like the fanservice eps (the beach one and the one with that big monster)? I was a little peeved that they were doing that while not continuing with the story!! :(

Aidan
2006-01-08, 16:04
My-Otome fanservice is... well it doesn't really add that much value for me, it kinda leaves me cold.

So, what made me watch Hime? For me it was the breakneck action in the first episode that got me interested, the show had some parts I liked it had some parts that I didn't like. What got me through was Mai, I really liked her character up to some point. What got me into Otome was miss Anty, all the unanswered questions keep me interested. I guess I'll like the show until we have every Otome trying to bust out the brains of their best friends.

lana3007
2006-01-08, 16:51
When I originally came across Mai HiME I was amazed at how it could be possible that it's so popular. Most of the time stories with female main characters (actually almost the entire cast is female) don't get any attention from guys and hense fail misrably, yet Mai HiME manages to get as much if not more attention from the guys as from the girls. Personally I think it has something to do with hot girls (well for the guys anyway), good balance of comedy and action, well developed characters, good animation and intriguing story.

I also get something of a sadistic satisfaction out of watching a series where all the guys are useless while the girls kick butt, when most serieses I watch are usually the other way around.

lone_wolf
2006-01-08, 16:56
I also get something of a sadistic satisfaction out of watching a series where all the guys are useless while the girls kick butt, when most serieses I watch are usually the other way around.

LOL...that's how I kinda feel myself when watching the show. It's a nice empowering feeling for females.:D

It gets tiring when women labeled as the victim. This series was refreshingly unconventional...at least for me.;)

--Lone Wolf

Tempest35
2006-01-08, 17:37
Ah...female empowerment...lovely thing it is...:heh:

With all the women having access to all the 'good stuff', I suppose it's forcing the guys to become smarter - and that ain't easy. ^^; For that, I must bow to Sergay, Nagi, Rad, and Takumi for keeping us males in the running for cool characters in Otome :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Matrim
2006-01-08, 18:30
When I originally came across Mai HiME I was amazed at how it could be possible that it's so popular. Most of the time stories with female main characters (actually almost the entire cast is female) don't get any attention from guys and hense fail misrably

I am not too sure about that. For instance Bee Train (Noir, Madlax, you can check them out since you said you enjoy girls kicking butts :)) is notorious for having mainly female characters in their animes but from what I have seen most of the fans of their series are male.
And obviously the fact that there are many MH fans has to do with the abundance of hot female characters which helped to keep the viewers' attention alive until the serious part of the show. :heh:

DragoonKain3
2006-01-08, 22:25
Most of the time stories with female main characters (actually almost the entire cast is female) don't get any attention from guys and hense fail misrably

Maybe in the west, but its another matter in anime. My rule of thumb usually goes that if there's an abundance of one sex in an anime, it's probably aimed at the opposite sex. There's countless harem animes as an example. MariaMite, Ichigo Mashimaro, and Gokujo Seitokai are examples with female main characters or all female casts, and yet a lot of men watch them. And that's assuming they aren't the majority of the viewers.

Heck, even shows like Gundam Wing that was intended for males and Sailor Moon intended for females has a very big following of the opposite sex. In fact, I can't recall an anime in which there was an abundance of one sex and yet it wasn't popular with the other.

GaboolRaider
2006-01-08, 23:22
I have a short list: Bleach Mai HiME/Otome~ lol and Naruto kinda lost it for me...

But yea Mai HiME was pretty good... an anime I could really watch and talk to girls with :cool:

The only real reason I'm hooked on Mai Otome is I wanna know what happened to Mai... which was kinda explained in eps 13, plus I'm a fan of Natsuki :D

Did anyone else other than me say: The girl at the last eps of Mai HiME is probably the main character in Mai Otome?

gameoffreak8
2006-01-09, 00:01
Well...Mai-Otome and Mai-HiMe is awesome. Mai-HiMe is my favorite anime becuase of character, plot, and battles... I will watch Mai-Otome...

kj1980
2006-01-09, 00:30
いや、完璧に舞-HiME/舞-乙HiMEって男性向けだろうがよ・・・。

You have SUNRISE doing an anime that incorporates both moe! and moe~.

You have Kurinoko singing the OP song to both Mai-HiME and Mai-Otome. She's even a seiyuu in the latter.

Mai Mai. Yukarin. Mami Mami. Oneechan. Shimizu Ai. Iwao Junko. Nokawa Sakura. Nanri Yuuka. Yukana. Shintani Ryoko...the list goes on. Tell me, with such a seiyuu cast, and this ain't a male otaku centric anime?

Scenes and plots that are made to tingle at hardcore male ero/bishoujo game playing kimo otas' hearts.

The main target of this show? Men like me - who will go out and shell out extreme cash for limited edition merchandise, DVDs, and the like. (approximate estimated usage for merchandise related to the previous show: ~100,000 yen)

How obvious isn't this that it is clearly made to market towards male hard-core otakus?

guest
2006-01-09, 00:48
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. It's like going to the Shuffle! forum and asking if any guy watches it. Of course, most of the people watching Mai Hime/Otome are guys - it's specificially aimed for guys. That doesn't mean that females don't watch it. A better thread would be ask whether there are any girls watching this show.
Does that mean I can start a thread with "why girls watch My Hime/My Otome?" :D

I think all others have explained well that this show targets male audience so, yeah, most of the audience are guys. How about hearing from girls who watch this show as in why? :) And this sub-forum is a little quiet these days.

I think this show has managed to catch significant numbers of female audience, unlike most of male-oriented anime. I don't have the numbers so if I am wrong, someone correct me, please.

DeuceTrick
2006-01-09, 01:12
Scenes and plots that are made to tingle at hardcore male ero/bishoujo game playing kimo otas' hearts.

Behold, he returns... Good to see you, kj1980.

But, uh, what's a "kimo ota"? Kimochi otaku?

kj1980
2006-01-09, 01:52
Behold, he returns... Good to see you, kj1980.

But, uh, what's a "kimo ota"? Kimochi otaku?

I return? I have always been here and there across several threads on this forum.

"Kimochi-warui" abbreviated becomes "kimoi," which is further abbreviated when used with "otaku," = "kimo-ota."

DeuceTrick
2006-01-09, 02:56
I return? I have always been here and there across several threads on this forum.

Oh. I guess I'm just blind. :cool:

"Kimochi-warui" abbreviated becomes "kimoi," which is further abbreviated when used with "otaku," = "kimo-ota."

*whistles* The Japanese capacity to miniaturize its language never ceases to amaze me.

But this highlights something I find very interesting: in the Japanese animation market, men who have a taste for melodrama and romance are specifically catered to. Of course, all those products are moving across the Pacific and finding an eager audience here, but threads like this one demonstrate that it's still sort of a new experience.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but still. Interesting.

Thewanderer
2006-01-10, 01:41
Well, people say mostly guys watch it because it's true.
It's not really about how many characters of each gender there are, or which ones are main characters, especially when dealing with an older audience. And yes, plenty of guys can think girls can be cool, myself included. Ask any guy who's seen Ghost in the Shell, for a start.

A show with a cast consisting of guys could be one of two types. (Hello simplification).
Are the guys all fighting each other? Probably aimed at boys.
Are the guys all pretty? Probably aimed at girls.

Shows aimed at girls tend to be one of two types (and yes, I'm going to generalise again here), magical girl shows for a younger audience, or a romance.
Romance stories work better with an even mix of characters, rather than a blatant disproportion, which leads to a harem anime. Which, of course, are normally aimed at guys.
So basically anime about cutsey stuff=show for girls, and anime about fighing=show for boys?
1. We don't need to view them as role models, we like girls =)
2. whatever the gender, if the plot and graphics are great, male/female
doesn't matter, we'll just watch it =P :D
Okay, that's true too...

Something makes me wonder anymore why they even put the "Shojo" or "Shonen" labels on anime...

lone_wolf
2006-01-10, 01:51
So basically anime about cutsey stuff=show for girls, and anime about fighing=show for boys?

Okay, that's true too...

Something makes me wonder anymore why they even put the "Shojo" or "Shonen" labels on anime...


Here are the basic labels:

Kodomo - for children
Shounen - For boys
Shoujo - For girls

(Mature themed)
Seinen - For young adult males
Josei - For young adult females.


Japan just basically puts a label on practically anything. Japan is heavy into organization.

--Lone Wolf

shinigami1101
2006-01-10, 02:57
now that i think about it, what probably keeps me hooked on Hime and Otome is the complete LACK of a male lead character. Otome really contrasts to most of the other anime i watch as most of them are male leads (NGE, FMA, Trigun). It really is nice to see an anime that is somewhat about physical combat without a male lead. then again, i still wanted to see nagi beat the crap out of the soldiers that invaded the library in Hime.

Thewanderer
2006-01-10, 04:56
Here are the basic labels:

Kodomo - for children
Shounen - For boys
Shoujo - For girls

(Mature themed)
Seinen - For young adult males
Josei - For young adult females.


Japan just basically puts a label on practically anything. Japan is heavy into organization.

--Lone Wolf
Sorry, I don't understand moonspeak. Please translate those words for me.

lone_wolf
2006-01-10, 05:48
Sorry, I don't understand moonspeak. Please translate those words for me.

It's Nihongo and I already provided a translation right next to it.:eyebrow: But I think you already knew that, right.


--Lone Wolf

Eclipze
2006-01-10, 08:39
Well, MH/MO has enough action + fanservice that didnt felt too forced for me to like it.

hat_hair
2006-01-10, 10:38
So basically anime about cutsey stuff=show for girls, and anime about fighing=show for boys?


Not quite what I meant, and besides, there's plenty of shows that do the opposite of this.

Thewanderer
2006-01-10, 12:04
Not quite what I meant, and besides, there's plenty of shows that do the opposite of this.
Examples?

(I apologize for getting so off topic guys:heh: )

Catgirls
2006-01-10, 12:12
Examples?

(I apologize for getting so off topic guys:heh: )You know, you guys can use the private message system (PM) to ask some of these off-topic questions. If you think the thread is drifting, PM the person and ask them in private.

Just a posting tip from you pal, Catgirls.

HydraDragoon
2006-01-10, 12:36
Well I've recently started watch Mai-Hime. (Not finished yet, don't ruin the story :p) A friend of mine and me pick a series each, watch them and discuss the episodes, it's a pretty good way to experience different tastes in anime. He chose Evangelion btw. Anyway, I chose Mai-Hime because it looked like a decent action anime, but I've started to find myself enjoying the little romance and character interactions more than action these days. The umbrella part in episode 5 :upset:

Either way, I'm drawn away from action and more towards that so I'll go with it, I'm not afraid to admit it. So I'm going to keep on watching Mai-Hime in the hope of them developing some more into the characters and romances as well as keep a good bit of action to satisfy my primal urges. Little does he know I'm going to stick him with either School Rumble or Honey & Clover as my next choice. :D

-HD-

Thewanderer
2006-01-10, 12:55
You know, you guys can use the private message system (PM) to ask some of these off-topic questions. If you think the thread is drifting, PM the person and ask them in private.

Just a posting tip from you pal, Catgirls.
Sorry again:heh:

But yeah, I watch Mai HiME/Otome, and I'm a guy. Though I also try to watch any anime I see. On TV(through the 'bad' dubs too), in DVD form(when I can), and... anywhere else:p So the fact that I watch it isn't THAT special.

(and IMO, MH/MO should be considered girl's anime)

Flyvedelta
2006-01-10, 13:02
(and IMO, MH/MO should be considered girl's anime)
girl's ? anime? there's some yuri there, and i dunno if girls like it. yet, i think guys can like them too, for MH coz the mecha design (i mean child...). well, i'm a guy, i liked the story of MH and MO and of course i think some of them are too girly and stuff, but i managed too think, that its only a little and still watch the story goes. blah blah.. well, i dun really agree if this one should be entirely for girls..

Thewanderer
2006-01-10, 13:14
girl's ? anime? there's some yuri there, and i dunno if girls like it. yet, i think guys can like them too, for MH coz the mecha design (i mean child...). well, i'm a guy, i liked the story of MH and MO and of course i think some of them are too girly and stuff, but i managed too think, that its only a little and still watch the story goes. blah blah.. well, i dun really agree if this one should be entirely for girls..
Yuri? Um... if they're lezbians they might like it:p And I definitely didn't mean ENTIRELY...

Tremalkinger
2006-01-10, 14:42
I also get something of a sadistic satisfaction out of watching a series where all the guys are useless while the girls kick butt, when most serieses I watch are usually the other way around.

It's an new trend in anime to have powerful female characters (though you can certainly fine isolated examples in older animes, like Kayura from Yoroiden Samurai Troopers). I personally am enjoying the trend, but I hope that directors continue to remember that its the power plus the good character development that make the fans (male and female) enjoy this trend.

lone_wolf
2006-01-10, 14:48
girl's ? anime? there's some yuri there, and i dunno if girls like it. yet, i think guys can like them too, for MH coz the mecha design (i mean child...). well, i'm a guy, i liked the story of MH and MO and of course i think some of them are too girly and stuff, but i managed too think, that its only a little and still watch the story goes. blah blah.. well, i dun really agree if this one should be entirely for girls..

Yes, we like it. in fact if you look at the earlier posts to this thread you'll notice that females did respond to this.

And to reiterate once again, I had to agree with that previous poster before me....the women are empowering in this show...it's nice *not* to have wimpy females for a change. I like the role reversal for this series....it certainly boosts by feminine ego.:heh:


--Lone Wolf

Flyvedelta
2006-01-10, 20:51
lolz...gomen gomen...i mean u said it...girl's anime, so it means Shoujo anime, and even in japan man didn't like it very much, or even they dun want to see it..(eeto...some of them)...after asking my friend, he said, eeto...that many of the fans are man. so, i dun think its a shoujo anime.
btw, i dun care about all of it, except if someone disrespect of this anime saying its for girls and too lame or sumthing (belive me, no one here did).
its still an anime for me, for guys and girl, its the same.

Lost
2006-01-10, 21:38
Wow this thread's going all over the place. :confused: :eyespin:

Bottom line:

Girls like it. Guys like it. Its a great series. Go watch it if you haven already done so.

:)

EDIT = brotha :)

KanaKaishou
2006-01-10, 21:44
Amen to that, brotha (or sista, as the case may be)!

Tremalkinger
2006-01-10, 22:47
(and IMO, MH/MO should be considered girl's anime)

Erm... Mai HiME is most definately classified a shounen anime. The fact that the manga was seralized in Shounen Champion would be a hint. That being said, I can understand your feelings to a degree, as its one of the deeper shounen anime in terms of plot and character development, and had a few elements of shoujo (notably people's emotions affecting the world).

Eclipze
2006-01-10, 23:58
Erm... Mai HiME is most definately classified a shounen anime. The fact that the manga was seralized in Shounen Champion would be a hint. That being said, I can understand your feelings to a degree, as its one of the deeper shounen anime in terms of plot and character development, and had a few elements of shoujo (notably people's emotions affecting the world).
While it may be a shounen-like of an anime, it does seem to have more of a mature theme.

Besides, it is aired during "Otaku hours" and I think kj mentioned it before, its a mix of moe~ and moe! of an anime that attracts male otakus. (though I really dont know moe means after much personal speculation:heh: )

lone_wolf
2006-01-11, 00:04
While it may be a shounen-like of an anime, it does seem to have more of a mature theme.

Besides, it is aired during "Otaku hours" and I think kj mentioned it before, its a mix of moe~ and moe! of an anime that attracts male otakus. (though I really dont know moe means after much personal speculation:heh: )


And because it has a much more mature theme, it may very well be labeled as "Seinen" since seinen caters to the "young adult male" genre.

萌え(moe) is kind of like a fetish or feeling for anime girls. So yes, I agree with KJ.

--Lone Wolf

Flyvedelta
2006-01-11, 00:17
hoe....well, its an anime for both guys and girls if you talked like that..

lone_wolf
2006-01-11, 00:43
hoe....well, its an anime for both guys and girls if you talked like that..


Actually my description explains that it's main demographic are guys...I was agreeing with KJ about the "moe" thing.

But even though it's specifically targeted to the male audience, it's not gonna stop me from viewing it;)

--Lone Wolf

Thewanderer
2006-01-11, 03:56
Erm... Mai HiME is most definately classified a shounen anime. The fact that the manga was seralized in Shounen Champion would be a hint. That being said, I can understand your feelings to a degree, as its one of the deeper shounen anime in terms of plot and character development, and had a few elements of shoujo (notably people's emotions affecting the world).
I kinda don't live in Japan to even get that hint:heh:

What bugs me most about shows like this is the guy accidentally gets caught doing something perverted(I know, another sign of a shonen series...), then gets injured or severly bitched at for it(that even happened in the first friggin' MH ep to boot). Though the cool characters made me watch more of it:D

Grees
2006-01-11, 04:02
Im a guy and i watch it.
Cant see thought why im attracted to a show about school filled with young girls who sometimes tickle each other and goes like ' aaaooohhhh....'

Eclipze
2006-01-11, 05:32
Im a guy and i watch it.
Cant see thought why im attracted to a show about school filled with young girls who sometimes tickle each other and goes like ' aaaooohhhh....'
Perhaps because the slight yuri-action doesn't seem too forced?:heh:

I mean....in a typical shounen anime, the existance of yuri is quite low.....perhaps 1 scene out of 100 romance scenes (Naruto didnt have any I think, while Bleach had that "lesbian girl" who always wanted to hug Inoue. That "lesbian girl" probably had 3 episodes of air-time out of the current 63). And the scenes involving her weren't much of romantic kind, more like comedy scenes that put emphasis on Inoue's bust size.:heh:

To a certain extend, yuri is taken slightly more seriously in MH/MO, Shiznat being one of it, and Tomoe being psycho lesbian #2 (number 1 spot belongs to MH's Shizuru). And in both MO/MH, Shizuru is being devoted to Natsuki (though much less psychotic than in MH), and its the kind of yuri relationship we'd not normally see, and definately not in a shounen anime. Yet it didnt felt too forced as well.

Ah, and the tickling part (of Nina) seem to provide a little guilty pleasure without being hentai-ish altogether. Add these factors together + mecha and you'll have a fine series like MH/MO (not forgetting the amazing cast of seiyus(sp?) mentioned by kj)

It feels like heaven.:love:

-KarumA-
2006-01-11, 07:01
girl's ? anime? there's some yuri there, and i dunno if girls like it.

who says Girls dont like it lol, im a girl and a like Yuri, well but not to a too extreme point, Otome is not too extreme, thank god -_-; but that is also a reason to love it

there is a girl anime thats Yuri, though it might me shounen manga, the conversations and everything beside the few ation scenes is all girl like *cough* Kannazuki no Miko*cough*, but still Chikane's insanity doesnt go as far as Shizuru's :heh:

Eclipze
2006-01-11, 07:41
but still Chikane's insanity doesnt go as far as Shizuru's :heh:
Well, Shizuru likes to play rough.;)