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Thelastguardian
2006-01-08, 04:55
Utawarerumono - うたわれるもの

:bow:

http://www.baka-tsuki.net/Screenshots/Utawarerumono.jpg

Well I am happy. Very happy indeed XD

*dancing*

(I know the TV news was released back in mid-05, but it is good to actually see something about it in print.

Moonphse has it for Q206. This should be interesting.

zalas
2006-01-08, 05:07
Ooh, a new color page. The last magazine "article" on Utawarerumono I saw was a small B&W section in an issue of Megami with some character sketches. Unfortunately, Yuzuha's design looked rather odd :/

I'm really hoping they pull this off well, especially in the writing department. All they would really have to do is perhaps trim out a few character interaction details. The entire game story is linear and thus shouldn't need to be edited much to fit into the animated format.

The PS2 game is projected to come out around the same time as the animated series, but who knows? ^_^;

What would be really cool would be to introduce the characters the way some of the important characters were introduced in the game. That is, when the character first shows up, display a name tag on the screen. Now the big question is, will they add official romanizations of the names and if so, it would be very interesting to see if they'll go the Ainu route.

RunningTARGET
2006-01-08, 17:12
Considering this is a bishojou game oviously you have to fall for one of the girls, but just a quick question. Is there any actual romance in the story?
Its a bishojou anime, so i'll watch it whether it has romance or not, but still it would be nice. :D

zalas
2006-01-09, 01:36
Considering this is a bishojou game oviously you have to fall for one of the girls, but just a quick question. Is there any actual romance in the story?
Its a bishojou anime, so i'll watch it whether it has romance or not, but still it would be nice. :D
The point of the game isn't really the romance. It gave me more of an epic impression. And no, you don't really go for any particular girl, since the story is linear. Everyone is involved in some fashion or another.

kj1980
2006-01-09, 03:06
Besides, the interesting part of this game is the supposed world that they live in and the power relationships of that era. Not to mention the interesting characters Hakuoro and the gang meets during their adventures.

Dragnfly@Gamefaqs
2006-01-09, 19:21
The trailer gave me an almost Suikoden 3-vibe, which I absolutely love. The character and wold designs are very strong and I'm anxious to see how it all plays out.

zalas
2006-01-09, 19:39
The trailer gave me an almost Suikoden 3-vibe, which I absolutely love. The character and wold designs are very strong and I'm anxious to see how it all plays out.
There is no trailer. The only official animation relating to Utawarerumono that I know of are the two opening sequences to the game. I still don't quite get why that got "fansubbed" since it had no lyrics and the only Japanese text was the title O_o;

Dragnfly@Gamefaqs
2006-01-09, 20:54
A group usually does that to increase their roster, as a declaration that they intend to fansub the anime, or both. Fansubbing has become such a general term.

zalas
2006-01-10, 04:52
A group usually does that to increase their roster, as a declaration that they intend to fansub the anime, or both. Fansubbing has become such a general term.
For the latter, there are better ways to do it other than simplying baking your group's logo onto some video file and distributing it. For example, you could just announce it on a page, or perhaps start writing up the background notes that you'll need once the show starts. Simply tagging a video as yours and distributing it doesn't really bring any extra benefit to the viewer, who could have just as well downloaded a copy of the original video.
---- end offtopic ---
Well, does anyone have guesses or wishes as to who the seiyuu will be for the unannounced roles (basically only Eruruw and Aruruw got announced)?

Dragnfly@Gamefaqs
2006-01-10, 07:14
It brought extra value to me. I don't even go to fansubber's websites unless it's a very specific case and I certainly don't download random videos off the internet (one too many times it's been some underaged girl having sex with a dog or something) So I wouldn't have even seen that video if they didn't put it there. I'm greatful to them.

As for voices/expectations for the show... Well, I don't really have any for the voices. I don't tend to have a favourite or even ones I usually recognize much. However, as for the show itself, I have an expectation of a suprise 26 episodes and a lot of really beautiful landscape images. I also expect the ending theme to be very catchy while the intro song would be fairly mellow. I expect the comedy to be sparse and situational, like Air or such shows.

Actually, I just realized I have a lot of expectations for this all of the sudden. That's very rare for me.

zalas
2006-01-10, 15:01
As for voices/expectations for the show... Well, I don't really have any for the voices. I don't tend to have a favourite or even ones I usually recognize much. However, as for the show itself, I have an expectation of a suprise 26 episodes and a lot of really beautiful landscape images. I also expect the ending theme to be very catchy while the intro song would be fairly mellow. I expect the comedy to be sparse and situational, like Air or such shows.

Well, it is known that it is 26 episodes, so no surprise needed there :) For some reason, I have the opposite expectation for the OP/ED, although if they use lots of cliffhangers, your expectation would be more appropriate.

giu_2
2006-02-06, 11:30
nice:)
this serie looks good ^^
to bad that the promo dosnet start on bt :/

Frankencow
2006-02-27, 19:22
Yes!! At long last my obsession with this game can be further indulged in its new anime form! The animated version of this classic RPG is going to air July 1st in Japan! Someone please please please grab all 26 episodes for me! *Drool* Ok, here is the link for those that read 日本語。

http://www.aquaplus.co.jp/uta/index.html

:D

zalas
2006-02-27, 23:45
You read it wrong. It said the plan to animate this was announced July 1st, 2005. I would be seriously annoyed if they pushed back the air date from April to July.

Speaking of which, I just picked up vol 207 of Famitsu PS2 and it features a page of screenshots from the anime. Looks a lot simpler in terms of art style compared to the game, but overall not too shabby. The fight scenes have a lot of the classic striped "action" pattern in the background.

Here is a translated version of the story part from that page: http://kuuya.is.moelicious.be/story-e.html

Note: Hakuor should probably Hakuoro instead, as his name is comprised of both "white" and "king/lord," where the latter is pronounced オゥルォ, which seems to indicate the オロ is two distinct syllables instead of the second half being the ending consonant for the first CV pair.

zalas
2006-03-10, 16:00
*bump*
Official site is now online:
http://www.utaware.net/

Promo clip:
http://www.b-ch.com/free/aquaplus/utaware/index.html (choose from either 500k or 1M streams)

I have to say, the backgrounds sorta threw me off; they kind of remind me of old paintings, and felt kinda nostalgic. Kamyu just looks... too weird now <_<; Bonus points for all the characters they managed to show in the promo mutsumi~ and also the arrow storm. Hakuoro still looks a bit funny, though. <_<

RunningTARGET
2006-03-11, 19:02
*bump*
Official site is now online:
http://www.utaware.net/

Promo clip:
http://www.b-ch.com/free/aquaplus/utaware/index.html (choose from either 500k or 1M streams)




Very nice indeed. Its good to see that the character designs look very similar to Mitsumi's designs. So very nice indeed, though i'm geting Izumo vives.

Shiroth
2006-03-11, 20:36
Been looking forward to this one for a while. Not 100% upto date with the whole story, but hopefully the anime'll keep the needed information. ^^

roan
2006-03-11, 20:44
to be honest, it really doesn't look that much better than the animated opening in the game.

don't hit me!

zalas
2006-03-12, 16:14
Well, for one, they made Hakuoro+Benauy more bishie and also managed to feature 63 very prominently.

zalas
2006-04-03, 17:09
Just watched the first episode. Here are my thoughts:
The opening theme seems a bit too happy-go-lucky, but the overall timbre of the instruments they used fits very well with the background of the story. And that last long shot of Eruruw was just magnificient...

It looks like they decided to shorten some of the earlier parts of the game, and took out the part where they had to fight the monkey-like animals ravaging the crops. Though, that did make the episode title a bit odd, since it was the name of the battle where you fight the monkey-like things in the game. The voice acting was decent, though I thought both Eruruw and our main hero have voices that are a bit too low pitched. Aruruw's voice seems to be nicely done, as well as grandma's voice. The entire art gave off that nostalgic, old-ish anime feel, which was pretty nice, although I wished they could've made the opening animation a bit more fluid and some of the keyframe animation could've be better.
Nuwangi's character is developed rather nicely. The anime portrayal brings out (what's left of) his humanity and makes him a lot easier to feel sorry for. It's a pity they moved the tail-grabbing scene to after the main hero starts walking around again, and a pity that they removed the cute little sound effects Aruruw makes when running off. It's amusing they decided to keep all the terminology from the game, so things like Owruo are kept in their original pronunciation. Hopefully, they'll put up a glossary for those who haven't played the game, as there *are* a lot of terms.

Personally, I liked the ending theme more, because of its eccentric rhythm and exotic feel. Also, that ending picture was really nice, and you'll know what it stands for by the time the series ends, as it is very important.

Looking forward to episode 2...

dxgarten
2006-04-04, 02:13
Some screenshots and the OP (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/utawarerumono_ep1.html) for those who can't be bother to download the entire episode.

I thought the opening is a lot nicer than the ending theme. It sounds quite melancholic in places.

Shinova
2006-04-04, 03:34
I thought the OP was very nice too. It's got a modern vocal and instrumental style but it sounds like old oriental music in a way. It's quite nice how they did it.:)


The episode itself was good. It'll seem slow for most viewers obviously.

Random curiosity also has screenshots and summary of the first episode.

setsuka
2006-04-04, 04:16
Some screenshots and the OP (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/utawarerumono_ep1.html) for those who can't be bother to download the entire episode.

I thought the opening is a lot nicer than the ending theme. It sounds quite melancholic in places.

Thank you for the opening. I was wondering if you can also do the ED?

I can't wait for this to be subbed. So far the season has been pretty dry.

RunningTARGET
2006-04-04, 07:43
After watching this and Haruhi, Soul Link is becoming more like a susuka production wise.

Ururuw is cute indeed. :D
looking forward to more.

Akirasuto.
2006-04-04, 08:28
Nice OP/ED. The imagery for the ED was particularly powerful and revealing, similar to Monster. Like zalas, I look forward to ep 2

Guido
2006-04-04, 09:06
The girl Eruru's design looks like a female counterpart to InuYasha, however, only because she's a dog girl: dog ears plus tail.

I found it both refreshing and odd, since female characters in anime are most likely to be portrayed as cat girls or with cat features.

Xellos-_^
2006-04-04, 10:34
The girl Eruru's design looks like a female counterpart to InuYasha, however, only because she's a dog girl: dog ears plus tail.

I found it both refreshing and odd, since female characters in anime are most likely to be portrayed as cat girls or with cat features.

I love her reaction when the guy grab her tail, so cute :D I can defintely empahize with the guy i grab the tail too :p

>_<

first it was loli, now i am turning furry too :eyespin:

But she and her sister is cute :naughty:

Can someone fill me in on the background of the story. No major spoilers but just general background info.

Guido
2006-04-04, 11:29
I love her reaction when the guy grab her tail, so cute :D I can defintely empahize with the guy i grab the tail too :p

>_<

first it was loli, now i am turning furry too :eyespin:

But she and her sister is cute :naughty:

Can someone fill me in on the background of the story. No major spoilers but just general background info.

Omniscient (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/04/04/utawarerumono-01/)'s blog for Utawarerumono episode one.

Also, it seems that not only Eruru and her sister have dog ears and tails, but also the people of their home village as well.

Grabbing her tail, then that means an equivalent ecchi moment, right?

Kaoru Chujo
2006-04-04, 14:58
This season is even tougher than I expected. I like everything I watch. Including this. The main guy and girl (dog? fox?) pleased me. The tail thing was pretty sexy. Even better than the wings in AIR, lol. And his dawning affection is nicely handled.

Shinova
2006-04-04, 15:23
Can someone fill me in on the background of the story. No major spoilers but just general background info.

Everyone in the world is an animal girl/guy of some kind or a winged person like Kamyu or Uru, whom you can see in the OP. The setting is basically like feudal Japan, with several countries with feudal lords and such, and with the peasantry living in villages like the one Hakuoro, the masked guy, ends up living in.


But there's more to the world than it seems. Saying anymore would be seriously spoiling things. ;)

Shinova
2006-04-04, 16:09
Even better than the wings in AIR, lol.

You'll have your wings once Kamyu and Uru come around.:p

evil-samurai
2006-04-04, 21:03
Wow! the animation really is great!, and the lighting effects are amazing! (The fire from the very start was really! well done) comparing the lighting in Fate/stay night and half the anime out there Utawarerumono makes them look like crap :heh: The drawings are fairly simple as are the backgrounds most of the time, but it is really defined.

The is girl really! cute too and I loved that tail scene, never seen anything like that before ^^ plus good voice acting so far. I going to be following this one, though.. Damit >.> so many anime coming out.

Alpha123
2006-04-04, 22:41
Just watched the first episode, this anime is a definite keeper for me this season. I love the OP that they have, very nice and catchy tune, and the battle scene just looked plain awesome. Heck, even if this show turns out to be a lemon, I’ll still follow it all the way through just for Ururuw alone! Can’t wait for someone to sub this show.

Oh, and can anyone put up like a pronunciation key or something for the title. While I really do find it fun trying to pronounce “Utawarerumono” on my own, it would be very nice to actually know how to say it correctly :D

zalas
2006-04-05, 02:30
Just watched the first episode, this anime is a definite keeper for me this season. I love the OP that they have, very nice and catchy tune, and the battle scene just looked plain awesome. Heck, even if this show turns out to be a lemon, I’ll still follow it all the way through just for Ururuw alone! Can’t wait for someone to sub this show.

Oh, and can anyone put up like a pronunciation key or something for the title. While I really do find it fun trying to pronounce “Utawarerumono” on my own, it would be very nice to actually know how to say it correctly :D
Wait, what do you mean a pronunciation key? It's pronounced u ta wa re ru mo no like any other Japanese word :/ (okay, so maybe they are accented a bit differently, but should be fairly similar) It's shorted to waremono and utaware on Japanese forums, so you might use that as well. I guess if you want a half-accurate rendition, it would be: "ooh tah wah ray/lay rue/loo mow(the lawn) no"
And it's Eruruw and Aruruw; there is no Ururuw, but there is a Urutoriy later...

DaFool
2006-04-05, 09:27
Damn, this is the high-production-value epic adventure anime I was looking for. Eroge has indeed come a long way.

PGilis
2006-04-05, 11:48
Wow, this anime looks great. Another Ero-BGame-turned-anime with really big values and great entertainment. There's a lot of them recently, you guys don't think? ;)

Any chance someone start fansub this one soon? :D

kj1980
2006-04-05, 12:44
I wasn't expecting much from Utawarerumono (although I lvoed the game!!), but the OP changed my mind. It was really catchy and the visuals were great. Knowing what to come, this will be a good ero-game to anime conversion.

Also, I am very happy to see more and more people referring these games as ero-games!!! Perhaps my quest has not been in vain.

Xellos-_^
2006-04-05, 12:52
Also, I am very happy to see more and more people referring these games as ero-games!!! Perhaps my quest has not been in vain.

All Hail KJ1980, Ero-Senian

zalas
2006-04-05, 14:22
Any chance someone start fansub this one soon? :D
Static-Subs is subbing this one, and there might be one or more groups secretly working on it as well.

Kaoru Chujo
2006-04-05, 15:58
....Also, I am very happy to see more and more people referring these games as ero-games!!! Perhaps my quest has not been in vain. Thank you, sensei. It's a more understandable term in English, anyway.

Shinova
2006-04-05, 15:59
I just refer to them as games so as to avoid the issue altogether. :p When someone else calls them hgames, I say hgames too just so I don't confuse them.

Shinova
2006-04-06, 01:33
The more I listen to the OP the more I come to love it.

The lyrics works so well with the music even if I don't understand them yet. It almost sounds like the whole thing is rhyming in step with all of its parts.

evil-samurai
2006-04-08, 10:18
The more I listen to the OP the more I come to love it.

The lyrics works so well with the music even if I don't understand them yet. It almost sounds like the whole thing is rhyming in step with all of its parts.The best well made opening this season (imo) Everthing fits into place, the music, animation, and with such a well beat different song that you dont hear often, what is not to like about it ^^

I do wonder how much there is to Utawarerumono, I love adventure/action/drama/Slice of comedy shows that tend to try and have some good meaning in the show which in turn bring more vaule to the show, like kenshin ^^; even though its based on a ero-game it still can still be great!, its all up to the anime team, which I'm sure will do a good job. Right now, I just cant see myself getting dissapointed watching the show :)

Guido
2006-04-09, 12:30
Since this anime is still unlicensed, the sub for episode one is out.

By Yesy (http://www.animesuki.com/group.php/380.html)

dan88
2006-04-09, 16:47
I love her reaction when the guy grab her tail, so cute :D Am I the only one who kept looping this scene (06:49-06:53) to see Eruruu expression when he touched her tail! ....soooo cute! :D

Shinji103
2006-04-09, 16:51
Am I the only one who kept looping this scene (06:49-06:53) to see Eruruu expression when he touched her tail! ....soooo cute! :DI watched it a couple times. :D :D :D

Kamui4356
2006-04-09, 17:45
Am I the only one who kept looping this scene (06:49-06:53) to see Eruruu expression when he touched her tail! ....soooo cute! :D
I made an av out of it. :D Of corse I'm sure someone will make a better version soon, if no one has already. Doesn't loop very well... :heh:

Anyway, so far I like this series. I was sort of looking foward to it, but I'm glad it hasn't dissappointed. :)

She lloks like she is drunk and is doing hiccups :p
:heh: Put a longer pause in. Better?

Xellos-_^
2006-04-09, 18:03
I made an av out of it. :D Of corse I'm sure someone will make a better version soon, if no one has already. Doesn't loop very well... :heh:

Anyway, so far I like this series. I was sort of looking foward to it, but I'm glad it hasn't dissappointed. :)

She lloks like she is drunk and is doing hiccups :p

zalas
2006-04-09, 18:42
Am I the only one who kept looping this scene (06:49-06:53) to see Eruruu expression when he touched her tail! ....soooo cute! :D
It's great. I showed a clip of that to people when episode 1 aired and they loved it. :) It's a pity they didn't have him pulling on Aruruw's tail first and getting scratched up with a frantic Eruruw coming in moments later, wondering what happened.

EDIT: thread moved, no longer need this line...

CaiSter21
2006-04-09, 18:52
just saw the first eps and i liked the op really much
also got to say that the names Eruruu and Aruruu are really cute!

SinsI
2006-04-09, 20:25
Hmm... watched first subbed version. The whole episode was pretty mediocre - nothing unexpected, just character introductions. Only the music seems a above average.

Guido
2006-04-09, 21:03
Actually, the first episode does a decent job to introduce us to the main characters, how do they behave, and what types of personality shines most in them. It's got the RPG game feel, because the anime was adapted from the game that goes by the same name, right?

All the budget was well spent in both animation and soundtrack, and I could swear the quality for the TV anime resembles to that of a movie particularly to those of Miyazakis' films.
I just have a weakness to score that uses drums and flute music within folklore songs; sounds derivative from nature and spiritualism.

Utwarerumono introduces us to a feudal Japan of an alternate reality where Shinto magic, civil warfare, and mythical fantasy are a daily norm for its inhabitants.

And glad someone is discussing the ecchi joke of the masked man grabbing Eruru's tail. He brings forth an eyecatch comment that if the tail is something for real, which of course makes Eruru confused.
Making that observation possibly something's not quite working normally in that world.

The other thing is about the man's dream of the beast who is soothed by the voice of the girl.


I quite analyzing the man's current amnesiac condition, and the mask not coming off to a speculative condition.

The man might be the multi-fanged beast at the beginning whose wounds were tendered by none other than Eruru.

The reason why the mask does not comes off is due that functions as either a seal or curse for the man not to revert to his original form of that beast, and if you took a close observation to the horns on the mask, it is an "oni" mask.


Both OP and ED songs are already picked up in my list, and the OP makes references to lots of characters (mostly female ones) going to be introduced sooner.
Following the genre of RPG's, our two characters...

will have to depart the village to accomplish some quest that will lead them throughout the country and meeting allies and foes along the way.


OK. The guy grabs the girl's tail, then first she goes in shock but later gets horny.

RunningTARGET
2006-04-09, 23:11
Actually, the first episode does a decent job to introduce us to the main characters, how do they behave, and what types of personality shines most in them. It's got the RPG game feel, because the anime was adapted from the game that goes by the same name, right?



It is an RPG afterall.

http://xs76.xs.to/pics/06151/pra_004.png (http://xs.to)
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And by the looks of it Eruruu is your typical healer character.

Anyway never played the game, I cant remember where I got these screen shots from.

Its good to see this subbed and with 26 eps they can take their time, hopefuly animation doesnt degrade. But I dout it. ;)

zalas
2006-04-09, 23:50
OK. The guy grabs the girl's tail, then first she goes in shock but later gets horny.
Well, the equivalent would be if someone grabbed a girl's chest, although the tail is an easier target; normally kids wouldn't be able to reach up high enough to grab breasts <_<;

ruchik
2006-04-10, 01:10
i was just wondering-is this anime and game related in any way to ys: the ark of napishtim? after the first episode, the two seem to be very similar (girls with funky ears and tails, people suspect the main character and proves himself, shy little sister with weird powers, etc.)

justinstrife
2006-04-10, 01:11
Just watched the intro. Absolutely love the song. Trying to find it as we speak. :D

I'll hold off on finishing the episode as it's super late here and I have to work in the morning. (damn reality!). Expect reviews later this week.

zalas
2006-04-10, 01:36
i was just wondering-is this anime and game related in any way to ys: the ark of napishtim? after the first episode, the two seem to be very similar (girls with funky ears and tails, people suspect the main character and proves himself, shy little sister with weird powers, etc.)
No relation at all. They're made by two different companies. The 'suspect the main character' thing didn't really play a big part in Utawarerumono, anyway.

Shinova
2006-04-10, 01:55
This series has some pretty spoilerific moments so if you don't want to get spoiled, don't click them.



Utwarerumono introduces us to a feudal Japan of an alternate reality where Shinto magic, civil warfare, and mythical fantasy are a daily norm for its inhabitants.

The story will no doubt elaborate more on this, but,

It's not an alternate reality (at least it is in the sense that it is a fictional work, but not in-universe), and it's not feudal Japan either. In fact,

It's actually more like the FAR future.


will have to depart the village to accomplish some quest that will lead them throughout the country and meeting allies and foes along the way.


It's actually more like him rallying the village and other nations into war against various oppressors and such, IIRC

Sorrow-K
2006-04-10, 03:19
I've been anticipating Utawarerumono for a while. I've always seen the visual novel anime genre as an interesting one since it's still only in its relative youth compared with most other genres in anime, but it has, as others before me have put it, a fair share of its own wretched cliches. However, I thought one of the better recent entries into the genre was AIR; it's aesthetics were absolutely topnotch and it really relishes in its story. Additionally, it wasn't as plagued by poor pacing as Kanon was. As far as other entries in the genre are concerned, I thought Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito had some great ideas but some terrible execution, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien had very unlikable characters and Shuffle was as cliched a harem as one could find. And then there are the plethora of other visual novel adaptations that aren't even worth mentioning. To get to the point, it's a genre that has a few gems, but the majority are very mediocre. In many ways, I see Utawarerumono as a bit of a gauge as to where this genre is: is the genre still plagued by cliches and mediocrity, or is it starting to enter an awakening of sorts with the ideas we saw in AIR (and have been seeing odd glimpses of in Fate/Stay Night), ie a focus more on the things that make great anime, such as plot, characters, music and animation and less on the tired "who will he pick" storyline.

The first episode of Utawarerumono hardly makes an attempt at answering my questions though. It's very early days, and this is still clearly in it's "establishing premise and characters" stage. But my impressions so far aren't great. It's starting off in a veeery generic fashion. The directing seems a tad uninspired. The characters haven't done a whole lot of interesting stuff, but I won't fault them, since it is only the first episode after all. As far as their designs are concerned (both appearance and personality-wise) there's really not much that grabs my attention. The pacing's very slow as well (for a first episode) but pacing has always been a bit of an Achilles' Heel for visual novel based anime, so it almost goes without saying.

Overall impression: Obviously it's completely unreasonable to expect an anime to deliver big things after one episode, but I'm not going to say that this has started on the right foot. I'm very intrigued to see where this goes, though.

Wandering_Youth
2006-04-10, 03:59
Yay! I finished watching the first episode and I like it. The opening was nice and so was the music. The outfit designs are very stylish and I like them. The anime character art is ok but I really liked Misato Mutsumi's work on the original game better.

The first episode was good because it was nicely paced because in a lot of other animes the first episode is usually rushed and you got to like watch it twice to get exactly what's going on. The scene where the masked guy was yanking on Erururu's tail was funny because she was rather surprised at first but it look as if she really enjoyed it. :naughty: Still, I'm curious as to why the main character looked so surprised to find a tail on her.

The other thing I'm interested to know is whether out he is that dragon and who's voice it was that was talking to him in the very beginning. I probably already know it is already we shall see later on as everything is reveiled.

[QUOTE=Shinova]
It's not an alternate reality (at least it is in the sense that it is a fictional work, but not in-universe), and it's not feudal Japan either. In fact,

It's actually more like the FAR future.
Yea, that's what I read on thread about the game, a long time ago.
I don't remember exactly the whole description and I can't find the thread anymore probably because it was lost some time ago when the forums got hacked. From what I remember, it's suppost to take place X years after a nuclear apocalypse where humans were nearly wiped out. It was during that time or after, a scientist created these feral looking humans with powers to repopulate the planet after the whole event.
Please feel free to correct me on this.

Trax
2006-04-10, 10:39
First episode was ok. A little slow, and not a whole lot happened really, but meh, you have to give some time for character introductions etc. Best part was definately the tailgrab, her expression was priceless. Yes I rewatched it several times. :P Having a tail seems to be the norm in those parts, but perhaps not in other parts of the world. But since we still don't know anything about him (neither does he yet, for that matter) the exact reason he was surprised by it is still unknown. He's not from around there, that's for sure.

Seems the guardian beast is going to stir up some trouble in the second episode, but from looking at the OP the little sister Aruruu will somehow end up riding it.

Shinova
2006-04-10, 12:46
First episode was ok. A little slow, and not a whole lot happened really, but meh, you have to give some time for character introductions etc. Best part was definately the tailgrab, her expression was priceless. Yes I rewatched it several times. :P Having a tail seems to be the norm in those parts, but perhaps not in other parts of the world. But since we still don't know anything about him (neither does he yet, for that matter) the exact reason he was surprised by it is still unknown. He's not from around there, that's for sure.

Seems the guardian beast is going to stir up some trouble in the second episode, but from looking at the OP the little sister Aruruu will somehow end up riding it.

Actually,

That tiger and the one Aruruu's riding are not the same ones.

ccardoso
2006-04-10, 13:07
I'm wrong or the male protagonist has inside some sort of demon ala Kyuubi (Naruto)?

Daniel E.
2006-04-10, 13:19
Nice but slow episode. Kinda expected when it comes to first episodes nowdays.

I'm wrong or the male protagonist has inside some sort of demon ala Kyuubi (Naruto)?

I am sure everybody got that impression after watching this episode.

aptivamori
2006-04-10, 14:26
Hmm, this reminds me of Lodoss War. I like it. :)

zalas
2006-04-10, 15:06
Note to people posting spoilers... if it's not about episodes that have aired, please label them as such, ESPECIALLY big game spoilers. For example
boo
oh noes
hi
Otherwise, you're going to have a bunch of unlucky chaps who happen to click on the wrong spoiler...

Kensuke
2006-04-10, 15:10
Now this looks like a good and interesting series, I liked the first episode a lot. Like many others, my first thoughts about the mask was that it is somekind of seal to his powers. :heh: Also I had a feeling that when Eruru defended that masked guy saying that he is a nice guy isn't true, I guess he has a unknown dark past. Overall, I give this a thump up.
Plus Eruru was just so moe~.

Am I the only one who kept looping this scene (06:49-06:53) to see Eruruu expression when he touched her tail! ....soooo cute! :D
You aren't the only one, I stopped watching the episode, and played that scene three or four times. And that was after I saw a gif at 4chan. :heh:

Orchunter226
2006-04-10, 16:21
Out of all the series that have started up this year, this one looks the most promising to me. I really enjoyed almost everything about it.

I usually have something to whine about in an anime but this first episode was done flawlessly IMO. First eps. should never have to much jammed in and this one did well, I'll have to keep on watching this one.

Did anyone else think Eruru is one of the cutest characters ever? :D

Daniel E.
2006-04-10, 20:22
Did anyone else think Eruru is one of the cutest characters ever? :D

I dont know if it's OK to post this here, but this has been one of my favorite wallpapers for quite some time now. It's kinda old, so I am sure a lot of people have seen it already; Still, for all those that might have missed it, here it is:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3752/k0110249zl.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k0110249zl.jpg)

Getting back on topic, I just realized that the whole thing about the tailgrab actually happened twice during this episode. Guess It's bound to happen several times as the show moves on.

molitar
2006-04-10, 20:24
Looks interesting and Eruruu is just so Kawaii! But this reminds me I use to have a good anime pic gallery that had alot of anime animal characters but when I tried to find it seems I lost the bookmark :( So I tried to google and it made me sick too many adult porno sites with animals in the names keep popping up :( So can anyone got some good anime gallerys with anime animal characters? Cat girls and guys, dog girls and guys, and any other animal type.

Omniscient
2006-04-10, 21:25
Episode 02 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/04/10/utawarerumono-02/)

Well, this series has certainly grown on me. The second episode concludes the Mutikapa storyline and they finally give the man the name Hakuoro. Now I can finally stop referring to him as the unnamed man.
Aruru and the tiger cub together are just too cute.

zalas
2006-04-10, 21:41
Episode 2 was pretty decent, though I'm still puzzled as to why they changed 主 to 王 when describing Mutikapa for the episode title.
It's a pity they didn't have room to put in Aruruw's comedic antics. For example, Hakuoro actually gets on good terms with Aruruw through eating honey and beeswax in the game, and Hakuoro figured out Mutikapa's weakness one night when Aruruw came in and spilled tea on Hakuoro by accident and wetted Mutikapa's furs. After being commended on her effort by Hakuoro, Aruruw misinterpreted what Hakuoro meant, and promptly fetched another cup of tea to splash on Hakuoro. XD;

The episode gets a lot more realistic than the game here, in my opinion. Mutikapa feasting on a villager was carried out really well, and it's a lot more believable the amount of trouble the villagers, Hakuoro and Teoro had to go through to bring down Mutikapa in the anime. And finally, we see his awesome fan :D
Looking forward to episode three, and the pacing's been excellent so far.

Kaoru Chujo
2006-04-10, 22:04
Pretty good second ep. I guess this may not really be my kind of show: rightly or wrongly, I get "kids' show" vibes from the adventure part of the episode. But the eating was indeed very well done. The characters are good, and the mysteries could be interesting. Eruru is one of the cutest characters I've ever seen. The voice by Yuzuki Ryoka (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=545) (Minagi in AIR, etc.) is excruciatingly perfect, just as it was in AIR. And the voice of Koyama Rikiya (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=8136) as Hakuoro (Kuina in Noein, etc.) is very good, too.

Shenlong
2006-04-11, 01:48
The only reason why I checked out this episode is because I found this pic on a messageboard a long time ago and it really touched me. http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4098/utawarerumonocry2je.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=utawarerumonocry2je.jpg)
The first ep did the expected job of introducing some of the characters, now bring on the drama and tragedy!

Friera
2006-04-11, 05:59
I haven't played the first game so.
But I really enjoyed the first episode. It's 26 episodes, yes? Hopefully the series won't loose it charm or be too "moe" for mye taste. I happens to often that I get sick of an anime midways...

I'm looking forward to meet the two-sword-wielding dude. 8 Him: http://www82.sakura.ne.jp/~iyadesu/utawarerumono/oboro1.jpg ) Whoever that might be!

Kyousuke
2006-04-11, 06:24
I love Eruruu and her tail. :p Nuwangi is badass, and the masked guy looks pretty cool even though we don't know much about him.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-11, 07:34
Watched it yesterday after following the Gif made by Catgirls in his/her website. (The part where her tail is touched =P. yes I have to say that I'm a big catgirl/doggirl fan, so bear with me.)

Still, found the anime to be pretty interesting even though I have never played the game. I think it promises to be a pretty good storyline starting now.

At least now I'm down to two series a week, instead of only watching Bleach every wednesday.

Shadowscar
2006-04-11, 07:48
The girl Eruru's design looks like a female counterpart to InuYasha, however, only because she's a dog girl: dog ears plus tail.

I found it both refreshing and odd, since female characters in anime are most likely to be portrayed as cat girls or with cat features.

I though they were more towards being fox then being a dog but its hard to say lol

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-11, 07:58
Well, foxgirls for the win.

Still, I gotta agree that although catgirls are always cute, sometimes it's good to see something alike, yet-not-so-repetitive as Eruruu/Aruruu.

Trax
2006-04-11, 09:38
Nuwangi is badass, and the masked guy looks pretty cool even though we don't know much about him.

Nuwangi? Badass? :twitch: More like dumbass, and a jerk to boot.

Seiryuu
2006-04-11, 12:01
Mimikko banzai! I love the expressiveness that can be added with simply the ears.
From what I've heard, this is another harem trying to be an adventure story? Hope they can pull it off. That said, all it took was Eruruu's expression when Hakuoro touched her tail to win me over.

KiNA
2006-04-11, 12:35
Whoops.. another one.. that makes 3 series for me >.< Lots of waiting to do each week >.<

Burner of Anime
2006-04-12, 04:19
Seen ep1.

The tail grab is still the highlight of the episode :D Seriously, there is always a strong desire to see if the line attached to someone's rear actually does something.

ANyway, I do it to my cats and they don't like it much either :heh:

Will keep at this show as well. Cute girl, cuter reaction and strong 12 Kingdoms epic battle vibe from the OP. Will see if it delivers.

justinstrife
2006-04-12, 11:21
Seen ep1.

The tail grab is still the highlight of the episode :D Seriously, there is always a strong desire to see if the line attached to someone's rear actually does something.

ANyway, I do it to my cats and they don't like it much either :heh:

Will keep at this show as well. Cute girl, cuter reaction and strong 12 Kingdoms epic battle vibe from the OP. Will see if it delivers.

I definetly had to watch the tail thing two or three times. :heh:

One of my cats absolutely loves having her tail pulled, so who knows, not all cats deal with it the same way?

amonrei
2006-04-12, 11:37
Heheh ... Eruruu is just too cute. >_< Overall it's quite nicely put and done. I really like the setting. It's good for a change. :)

lockedowne
2006-04-12, 19:28
Anyone know if theres a possibility of a North American release of the game down the line?

The first episode was cool, can't wait for more. Eruruu's tail thing was way cute, lol.

zalas
2006-04-12, 19:48
Anyone know if theres a possibility of a North American release of the game down the line?

The first episode was cool, can't wait for more. Eruruu's tail thing was way cute, lol.
Keep praying to your Leaf gods... (or at least help out the industry by buying localized games.) Hirameki, when asked about the possibility of licensing AIR, responded that the game license is simply just too much money at this point. I would wager that Utawarerumono has a similarly high (but maybe not as high) licensing cost. There is a PS2 version slated for June, so maybe that might change things, but currently, there just isn't enough market incentive to license such a game. If people can demonstrate that they are actually willing to buy these games (and I don't mean just some random smidgeon of people from various forums, I mean a good chunk of people, like at least a few thousand or so), then perhaps these companies will think differently.

Currently, it seems that most of the people interested in these games are online, and there is a LOT of people who simply just download the games without paying for them. The classic example is planetarian, localized by insani. insani put up well written instructions on how to purchase the original version (for roughly 10 USD) upon which you can apply their translation patch. Of course, a few hours after their release, planetarian made its way onto torrent sites and accrued a large number of downloads. I seriously doubt most of the people who downloaded it off a torrent site actually bothered to purchase the actual game. _This_ is what commercial localization teams are worried about, and why you see things like Virtual Mate, etc. popping up. Sure, the clamour for English versions of these games are really high, or at least very vocal, but there simply isn't enough people right now IMO who are actually willing to pay for a professional, high quality translation.

lockedowne
2006-04-12, 19:55
Keep praying to your Leaf gods... (or at least help out the industry by buying localized games.)

Hahah, I have been. I bought most of the Atlus translated games, Growlanser, and a few others. Ah well, only time will tell I suppose. In the meantime, I will definately be following this anime.

KiNA
2006-04-12, 23:45
btw, when do the episodes usually released? Sighted Ep 2 raw at the usual place >.>

Catgirls
2006-04-13, 00:46
btw, when do the episodes usually released? Sighted Ep 2 raw at the usual place >.>The show airs Tuesdays @ 2:40 AM (Japan). You can use this site -- time and date.com (http://www.timeanddate.com/) -- to figure out what time that is for you (based on time zones) and then kind of extrapolate from there. The fan-subs, of course, are done when they're done (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=324). And usually no sooner than that.

Cheers. :)

KiNA
2006-04-13, 00:50
Ah soo .. that would be an hour later compared to my time .. o_o; Early morning show o_o

Thanks CG :D

Lost
2006-04-13, 02:01
I just watched the first episode, and loved it. I think both the OP and ED songs are great, but I especially liked the OP song, its my favouritest now! I too had to watch the tail-reaction scene a few times, couldnt get enough, especially the part where she sighed.. I'm still laughing now. Cute girl with fox ears, who can resist? But yeah, someone said the ears added expressionism.. I agree, I hope we'll see some ear wilts! I love ear wilts.. used to drive me crazy when my JRT's ears wilted back, and still does today.

I liked the countryside, peaceful setting, and somehow... somehow the anime reminds me of Scrapped Princess. Anyone willing to bet Utawarerumono's setting is post-apocalyptic, post-futuristic too? Also I notice, alot of background music here, for the most part of the episode, there was a piece playing in the background.

Anyway, this is an Anime to definitely follow. Hope it doesnt disappoint. :)

Green˛
2006-04-13, 04:47
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3382/clipboard026rq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Seems like the people live in a bit of fear of their government/rulers. Otherwise one would likely expect some witty comment like:

"Sorry, sorry, for a sec there I almost mistook your face there for an ass, with the tail protruding from the forehead and all."

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3661/clipboard033hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3252/clipboard054xi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8186/clipboard068xr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Somehow I have a bad feeling about the future of this village. Yet for where he'll stand, we shall see.

I definetly had to watch the tail thing two or three times. :heh:
I lost count till the point where I expected him to grab the tail of that blond. To, you know, see if it is real. And of course to see how much better the main healed his wounds, as the guy with the axe chases him down the road. :heh:

Lost
2006-04-13, 05:08
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3382/clipboard026rq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Seems like the people live in a bit of fear of their government/rulers. Otherwise one would likely expect some witty comment like:

"Sorry, sorry, for a sec there I almost mistook your face there for an ass, with the tail protruding from the forehead and all."

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3661/clipboard033hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3252/clipboard054xi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8186/clipboard068xr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Somehow I have a bad feeling about the future of this village. Yet for where he'll stand, we shall see.
Heh... whats that straw tail for anyway? Btw, I love the high collar on Eruruu's outfit. Again reminds me of SP. Or maybe a dog collar.. :heh:

zalas
2006-04-13, 05:24
Heh... whats that straw tail for anyway? Btw, I love the high collar on Eruruu's outfit. Again reminds me of SP. Or maybe a dog collar.. :heh:
I believe they are modeled after traditional Ainu garb:
http://www.sanynet.ne.jp/~shiraoi/photo/photo1.files/sr027.jpg

Burner of Anime
2006-04-13, 09:08
What initially drew me to the show? How they started the OP with one of the classic romantic images- the girl astride a giant white tiger. Think, what does a young woman have to do to sit on top of the equivalent of a medium battle tank in the animal kingdom :uhoh: ?

Anyway, full points to the VA's of the leads. We get a suprisingly thoughtful but clueless man [read: tail grab :heh:. Great save though], and the best "kyaa!" on the planet :D

Anyway, here's the rest of Ryoka Yuzuki's [Eruruu] voice roles.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=545

Also includes Nanoha A's Shamal and Mai-Otome/Hime's Haruka >_< :eyespin:

KiNA
2006-04-13, 09:37
o.o Eruru and Haruka is voiced by the same seiryuu ... o.o

Burner of Anime
2006-04-14, 03:48
^^ She has range no? Far cry from the battle tank smacking amazon in Hime :heh: Here, she is so cute she burns.

Anyway, Ep 2 has appeared from the same people. :D Come forth, shameless leachers. Get your weekly allowance of cute. :cool:

Sorrow-K
2006-04-14, 06:54
Episode 2.

This is quite cliched. Fortunately it avoids a lot of the cliches that bog anime, but it rather unashamedly uses many from just general literature... the big one of course being the amnesia thing. But the way they trapped Mutikapa and the resolution for Aruruu's tiger cub were also pretty cliched as well. I think what saves the premise from being totally disinteresting (to me) is that there's a million and one directions this could go in down the road. But at the moment there's a lot of hackney in the plot progression.

The directing is a tad uninspired, which hinders the atmosphere a bit... but I still found the action sequences rather tense. Which is good. The music is used quite well, and the OP and ED theme are starting to win me over.

Early days yet, so it's far too soon to say if this is a winner or not. But so far, I'd say there's a lot of potential for this to turn into a flop if it's not careful.

Radiosity
2006-04-14, 08:52
o.o Eruru and Haruka is voiced by the same seiryuu ... o.o

She has indeed got some incredible talent. And that squeak when someone touches her tail or she's surprised is adorable, a very close second place to Mikuru in Haruhi Suzumiya :)

As for the series itself, it does seem a little cliche from the first ep I've seen, but the general setting is nice, Eruruu has Nekomimi which is a Win in any situation, and there's some not too angsty tension building. Generally speaking it's good so far and I'm looking forward to watching more.

Daniel E.
2006-04-14, 10:20
Are you telling me that the little tiger we see in eps. 2 is the same one from the intro!?

I mean WOW!! talk about growing fast. :heh: :heh:

Trax
2006-04-14, 10:43
That was one nasty tiger, but considering the circumstances her cub will be pretty tame in comparison since it will be growing up among humans (don't underestimate feral instincts though). Now iirc, wasn't it that jerk we saw in episode 1 that destroyed the altar? Still wonder if that really made the tiger go berserk, especially if fixing the altar didn't have any effect. At any rate, I have one thing I've been planning to say since the first episode if it didn't happen again:

Needs more tailgrab! :heh:

Mincemaker
2006-04-14, 10:48
When I first watched this, I was shocked at the opening. There is this character in the OP that looked frighteningly like Suigintou from Rozen Maiden, except for the shorter hair, more tribal outfit and the blue eyes.

But I'm keeping my eyes peered for this one.

Xellos-_^
2006-04-14, 10:50
Needs more tailgrab! :heh:

:stupid: I am with you on this one.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-14, 13:28
I am with you on this one.

I second that :P

WOW, thank god Yesy released episode 2. I was starting to feel non-special for not watching it the whole week.

Tommy
2006-04-14, 16:26
I really struggled watching the first episode... I just thought the artwork was bland, the show was boring and the one guy who was bullying eruruu or whatever her name is was extremely annoying, plus I'm not a fan for the "cute" cat ears or whatever on everyone. But the more I think about it the more I realized this show just doesn't fit into the type of animes I usually watch so maybe thats why I disliked it so much.

Orchunter226
2006-04-14, 17:36
I really struggled watching the first episode... I just thought the artwork was bland, the show was boring and the one guy who was bullying eruruu or whatever her name is was extremely annoying, plus I'm not a fan for the "cute" cat ears or whatever on everyone. But the more I think about it the more I realized this show just doesn't fit into the type of animes I usually watch so maybe thats why I disliked it so much.

Yea if you're not into this type of anime, I think, that you would be a bit biased in thinking it is not that great. To each their own :D

As for me, I like this kind, and I think this one is superb. I am really getting into the characters and Hakuoro is pretty cool. I like everyone in the village and Eruruu is so cute. The story is neat in that it makes you wonder about Hakuoro's past and what is going to happen, but on the side you feel for the village. As a bonus, I really like the sound track, especially the OP. So overall I really like this anime so far.

Sakuya
2006-04-14, 18:04
Surprising myself, I really like this anime. That one annoying guy should die. :heh: He instantly got on my nerves with his attitude. I guess kudos goes to the director.

Is it just me or are they hinting that:

Eruru could have priestess powers after the village elder told the story of her sister? And not to mention Eruru sort of caused the rain to fall to scare away the tiger. :confused:

I thought killing their God was kind of scary. It just goes to show realistically how life works in this world. I felt sorry for the tiger cub! His (?) mother was killed and she's still so happy and probably doesn't know. :(

RunningTARGET
2006-04-14, 20:24
I'm surprised on how close Eruru is to Hakuoro, His only been living in the village for only a short time. Typical of him reminding her of one of her love ones. Well I consider this cute then anoying, cause female leads clinging onto the male lead is really anoying and it degrades women. Luckily it doesnt happen too often though (its usually the male lead getting beaten up by the main girls, witch when I think about it can also be anoying).

I wonder what the time frame is before the cub grows that big. :twitch:

Oh and Aruru calling Hkouro dad was very cute. :p

Shiroth
2006-04-14, 21:05
Eruru animaited really is something special, She's just as cute as she is in the game. & Hakuoro still carries around the title of one hell of a cool guy.

Green˛
2006-04-14, 21:46
Aruruu with the child of Mutikapa, probably all this time. And the attack on the village. Yet what is done, is done. Perhaps the villagers have already realized this. Maybe, maybe not.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9169/snapshot20060414222042b8zr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

But somewhere deep within, it doesn't appear lost. And with a new family, born.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4701/snapshot20060414222054b0il.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

KiNA
2006-04-14, 21:51
I love the scene when Aruruu said that was her child.. everybody go WTF?!?!? :heh:

There are few questionable things that can be put out to light.. but overall enjoyable episode.

And that cub is soo cute... I want to hug it ^^. Yea I love cats ^^

Sinestra
2006-04-14, 22:07
when i first heard about this series i was a little skeptical i had never heard of the game before and really didnt know too much about it. Well after watching 2 episodes i am in love with it. I think this is the series i have been waiting for. The opening theme is great and i cant help but to sing along with my limited japanese skills of course. I the charcters and animation is beautiful and Aruruu is so cute it hurts (Tail grab scene). In the opening scene there looks like there is so intense fighting going on looked really cool. I definetly going to add this to my favorite series list so far.

I do have a couple of questions why did the grandmother give An-Chan that the name of the father it seems like a real honor to recieve the name of someones child? Do he remeind her of him?
Can anyone tell me about the game and where i might find it also is there a manga and how is it compared to the anime so far. thanks everyone

Sinestra
2006-04-14, 22:11
I really struggled watching the first episode... I just thought the artwork was bland, the show was boring and the one guy who was bullying eruruu or whatever her name is was extremely annoying, plus I'm not a fan for the "cute" cat ears or whatever on everyone. But the more I think about it the more I realized this show just doesn't fit into the type of animes I usually watch so maybe thats why I disliked it so much.

I feel where your coming from i usually dont get into these types of anime but for some reason i really like this one it just kind of sparked something in me. Its nice to someone who can give constructive feedback without bashing the hell out of something just to cause a argument. Kudos to you but maybe you will come to like it as time goes on after all there are only 2 episodes so far so who knows

lavielove
2006-04-15, 00:13
speaking of Aruruu(that little girl), my jaws dropped when she called Hakuoro, otosan.even hugged him some more.


@Tommy ,as a different being , I like this anime.try to fantasize yourself as a Hakuro and try pulling the Eruru's tail in yr imagination. This will get you more closer to the anime I think.=P

RunningTARGET
2006-04-15, 00:22
Can anyone tell me about the game and where i might find it also is there a manga and how is it compared to the anime so far. thanks everyone

here's a place where you can get the PC version of the game
http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/556
but I hold off for abit untill the PS2 version comes out cause it may have alot more extras in the new version.


@Tommy ,as a different being , I like this anime.try to fantasize yourself as a Hakuro and try pulling the Eruru's tail in yr imagination. This will get you more closer to the anime I think.=P
Oh no! ;)

zalas
2006-04-15, 00:40
I'm surprised on how close Eruru is to Hakuoro, His only been living in the village for only a short time. Typical of him reminding her of one of her love ones.
There is a special reason and this will most likely be explained in episode 20 or thereabouts, depending on how the animation team decides to tell the story.

I do have a couple of questions why did the grandmother give An-Chan that the name of the father it seems like a real honor to recieve the name of someones child? Do he remeind her of him?
Can anyone tell me about the game and where i might find it also is there a manga and how is it compared to the anime so far. thanks everyone
There is a manga series currently running in Dengeki G's, but it looks more like slapstick humor than following the story from the one chapter I read. I don't remember there being a particularly real reason Tusukur gave Hakuoro that name, just that from the back, our main character looked a lot like Eruruw's father. That is what Aruruw meant in the game by calling Hakuoro "daddy," while in the anime, they make it look more like Aruruw's responding to Hakuoro calling her the mother.

Alu
2006-04-15, 02:30
I really struggled watching the first episode... I just thought the artwork was bland, the show was boring and the one guy who was bullying eruruu or whatever her name is was extremely annoying, plus I'm not a fan for the "cute" cat ears or whatever on everyone. But the more I think about it the more I realized this show just doesn't fit into the type of animes I usually watch so maybe thats why I disliked it so much.

Some people whom I value the options given on other anime here in these forums have started watching these series, and thus posting comments about them, based on them I decided to give it a shot and download the episodes that where available.

I am by far not an optimistic person, and quite ceptic in some cases.., so naturaly when I saw the first episode I realy didn't enjoy it, to say the least...

The artwork / animation as the person who wrotte the post I just quoted mencioned, it was bland, rather pale and plain.., something from a anime made in 2006 I would have expected ALOT better...; adding that and the slow progress in the episode made it a bit dull and boring to watch..

So its safe to say that we most have struggled throught this episode..

But.., I have been surprised before.., thus.. I toke alot of attention to the posts and saw the good positive feedback on the second episode;
thus.., I had decided to post my reviews based on when I'd finished watching the 2nd one.

Some of the best anime I have seen started out, well lets say.., not in the best of ways.., the best example that comes to my mind just now is Karin..., and who would have told me it would turn out to be THAT good :)

In this case, Utawarerumono (I'm going to have some trouble writting this everytime) may yet surprise me again...

I don't think for the dramatic side, but more for the action scenes.., altough its FAR too soon to even start making prognostics about the story and where it will lead too; after all... we are still introducing characters.., and only now we have a name for the person in the Oni mask that Eruruu saved (Hakuoro).

But as we can see in the OP, there are ALOT of fight scenes with alot of yet to introduced characters.., I have re-seen the OP a few times and it clearly shows me that they gived the action scenes they're due work, alot of blood and detail; and this we can confirm just by watching episode 2 aswell.

So.., I am hoping for a maybe well detailed story, possibility some tragic / dramatic moments as it goes but with alot of fight scenes and action, not to mencione a good amount of characters (judging by what I saw in the OP) - all I hope now is that they're caracter unfolds nicely.

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Now, on topic for the 2nd episode :

I was surprised in the first when I saw Aruruu's sence notice when the Tiger first appeared. In this episode though we see that she went and got her child, and when asked about it.. she said she couldn't tell because it was a secret.

This leads me to think that when the Elder said her sister at the time went into the forest to calm the Tiger and called her a Priestress, maybe Aruruu is one aswell ?
Might explain why she could interact with the Tiger.

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Ah also.., I've mencioned this in the Rozen Maiden thread.., its about a character we see in the OP where some people say she looks exactly like Suigin Tou..

I realy have to disagree..., I've stated the more detailed reasons on the RM thread but.. just to make it short... her face, hairstyle, eyes, even personality from what I could capture from the OP... realy isn't like Suigin Tou... in any way in fact..

Just because she has wings and white hair doesn't mean she looks like her :p

If I'd say she would be a copy of someone I'd go for Meia from Vandread..., EXACTLY same face & hairstyle :)

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-15, 13:11
Personally, judging from the CGs from the game, I can pretty much tell that it's gonna be quite an enjoyable series, even though it has progressed very little in these two episodes. I'm looking forward to keeping up with it.

But again, my taste for anime isn't what I call "fine", so I normally like things I'm already familiar with.


Anyway, here's a pretty crappy version of the OP, if anyone wants it. It was cropped in Windows Movie Maker with low quality, so I could flood my MSN contacts with it and make some of them join the love. (Managed to do it with 2 already :P).

http://www.kidoutenshi.net/random/Movie_0022.wmv

About 6 mbs, so anyone with an average connection can get it pretty fast.

Xellos-_^
2006-04-15, 13:19
Can someone post a good quality version of the game opening? if there is one.

I like collecting that sort of stuff.

Shadowscar
2006-04-15, 20:41
Im kinda confused alot of ppl ive talked to says this is a drama/harem/fantasy... i can see fantasy and drama but is this actually going to be a harem anime?

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-15, 20:47
I'd really doubt it.

Though the game seems to have some harem stuff to it, I'd really doubt that it's gonna be that big in the anime. Especially because of Hakuoro himself. He doesn't seem the type of guy that would go about fantasizing about the girls' panties or getting nosebleeds.

Shadowscar
2006-04-15, 21:05
I'd really doubt it.

Though the game seems to have some harem stuff to it, I'd really doubt that it's gonna be that big in the anime. Especially because of Hakuoro himself. He doesn't seem the type of guy that would go about fantasizing about the girls' panties or getting nosebleeds.

well my understanding of a harem is a bunch of girls like a single guy and it is undetermined which one he likes... nose bleeds, panties, and stuff were just fan service i though (well not the nosebleeds lol unless somebodys got an odd fetish)

Alu
2006-04-15, 21:21
Im kinda confused alot of ppl ive talked to says this is a drama/harem/fantasy... i can see fantasy and drama but is this actually going to be a harem anime?

I realy doubt it aswell.., as I previously posted.., this will surely be a fantasy / action / drama (possibily) anime..
Just take a look at the OP.., there are ALOT of characters and alot of fight scenes...; plus.. most of episode 2 was all action aswell.
Anyway.., we have 24 more weeks ahead before this anime ends so.., its realy too soon to say anything :p

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-15, 21:50
well my understanding of a harem is a bunch of girls like a single guy and it is undetermined which one he likes... nose bleeds, panties, and stuff were just fan service i though (well not the nosebleeds lol unless somebodys got an odd fetish)

Well, you've got a point there. However, I still wouldn't classify it as "harem", since it has mostly a bad connotation, again linking to the fanservice part. Maybe a "multiple-sides love relationship", but definetly not harem.

Still, we already have a bit of "fanservice". Remember the trail-grabbing part? To me that was fanservice enough :P Good fanservice, not bad fanservice!

Damn, I've been finding it pretty hard to express myself in english for a whole. I wonder why that is.

I realy doubt it aswell.., as I previously posted.., this will surely be a fantasy / action / drama (possibily) anime..
Just take a look at the OP

You're right about this. Again, judging by the CGs, we'll have a lot of drama plots in there. I'm actually feeling a bit uneasy because I already know how to expect, and I know I'll have nightmares in Aruruu/Eruruu's sake.

Catgirls
2006-04-15, 21:58
Still, we already have a bit of "fanservice". Remember the trail-grabbing part? To me that was fanservice enough :P Good fanservice, not bad fanserviceBest part of the show so far. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/Mousefinger/Misc/cool.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/Mousefinger/Misc/catgirl.gif

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1761/utawarep1lg019bq.gif

Hmmm..gut feeling: this won't become a classical "harem" anime. While it's true that people may be attracted to the lead male (and why not...that's a pretty hot mask he's wearing), I think there's really only one love story going on.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-16, 00:31
Hmmm..gut feeling: this won't become a classical "harem" anime. While it's true that people may be attracted to the lead male (and why not...that's a pretty hot mask he's wearing), I think there's really only one love story going on.


Well, we all know which love story that is :D


And THAT gif was what made me start watching UtaMono in the first place, Catgirls :P Thxes T0 U

Lost
2006-04-16, 01:35
Best part of the show so far. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/Mousefinger/Misc/cool.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/Mousefinger/Misc/catgirl.gif

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1761/utawarep1lg019bq.gif

Hmmm..gut feeling: this won't become a classical "harem" anime. While it's true that people may be attracted to the lead male (and why not...that's a pretty hot mask he's wearing), I think there's really only one love story going on.
Catgirls, it'll be really great if we could add sound to .gifs (we can't right?) That sigh she did when her ears wilted made the moment.

And THAT gif was what made me start watching UtaMono in the first place, Catgirls :P Thxes T0 UAnd yep it was the same for me. Then I saw the OP and the song hooked me.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-16, 01:36
As far as I know, we can't as of yet.

And yeah, the sound she made made me drown in cuteness.

Alu
2006-04-16, 02:13
Then I saw the OP and the song hooked me.

mmmm.. I have to say..., the first time I heard the OP song.., it realy didn't appeal to me..., I don't know exactly.., maybe I was expecting something else..

Strangest thing though.., after seeing episode 2 for a few times (and the OP along with it) the song kind of stod in my ear.., and now currently.., I can't get enough of it.. :p

This hasn't happened to me in quite a while.., I'd have to say.., the last OP song which I didn't like at first and then after hearing it a few time I started to simply.. love it, was.. mm.. Hemisphere from RahXephon..

Now thinking about it.., the same might happen with this anime in an overall basis..., specialy because the last fantasy anime I saw was Slayers.., and that was quite some time ago..

RunningTARGET
2006-04-16, 05:21
You're right about this. Again, judging by the CGs, we'll have a lot of drama plots in there. I'm actually feeling a bit uneasy because I already know how to expect, and I know I'll have nightmares in Aruruu/Eruruu's sake.

Well thats your fault for getting them in the first place, but before I sound like a big hypocrite i'll be honest and say I also tend to do that with all the bishoujo anime that I tend to favor. But due to the huge spoilerific fact that cgs bring I stoped doing that, well for now anyway. That is untill the anime finishes, I like to be shocked ala canvas 2 style ending. hehe :heh:

lavielove
2006-04-16, 06:24
Well thats your fault for getting them in the first place, but before I sound like a big hypocrite i'll be honest and say I also tend to do that with all the bishoujo anime that I tend to favor. But due to the huge spoilerific fact that cgs bring I stoped doing that, well for now anyway. That is untill the anime finishes, I like to be shocked ala canvas 2 style ending. hehe :heh:
RT your post is expired already :heh: Zero Shinohara already joined the club for that inresistable gif that Catgirl made

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-16, 10:37
Rofl, gotta say that's right :P

And nah, I'm usually fine with spoilers, it has always been like that. (Note that I watched FMA backwards, LOL) And I wanted the CGs for myself, Eruruu looks very cute in them :insertcatgirlsgifhere:.

Strangest thing though.., after seeing episode 2 for a few times (and the OP along with it) the song kind of stod in my ear.., and now currently.., I can't get enough of it..

Always happens to me. In fact, I came to like UtaMono's OP much faster than any of the Rozen Maiden ones (Exception is HnS. That was love at first sight). But since I rarely watch anime on a regular bases, instead of plowing through all the episodes I can in the least ammount of time possible, it's a bit rare to get used to a song the first time I hear it.

But now it plays on my playlist about 50 times a day :P And the scene where Eruruu is shown at the end has become my phone's starting video <_< >_> *Fanboy*

Shiroth
2006-04-16, 15:31
Aruruu really stole episode 02 for me.. you just gotta love her type of character.

I'll agree that the OP's good, can't wait for the full song.

Orchunter226
2006-04-16, 15:38
Aruruu really stole episode 02 for me.. you just gotta love her type of character.

I'll agree that the OP's good, can't wait for the full song.

Yea I love that OP. It fits the video so well, and that song rocks. Im going to get the full when ti comes out. I believe it's "Musouka" by "Suara".

Green˛
2006-04-16, 16:07
Aruruu really stole episode 02 for me.. you just gotta love her type of character.

I'll agree that the OP's good, can't wait for the full song.
She's about the cutest character so far.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4579/clipboard016ru.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/885/clipboard022po.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-16, 16:11
Well, I guess she'll keep her spot as the cutest one throughout the whole series.

Spiritual Cuteness + weird ears + White tiger Cub = WIN

Shiroth
2006-04-16, 16:19
Spiritual Cuteness + weird ears + White tiger Cub = WIN
You can't forget her love for Hakuoro! >.<

lavielove
2006-04-16, 16:54
speaking of Hakuoro,yeah,he couldn't take off that mask for 24/7 and how could that girls imgaine that he resemble to their father ? and where did Hakuro was being saved by Eruruu ?? Alot of things are still unexplained..

Shiroth
2006-04-16, 17:25
speaking of Hakuoro,yeah,he couldn't take off that mask for 24/7 and how could that girls imgaine that he resemble to their father ?
You never know, the father might have the same style of hair.. same attitude etc - it doesn't just have to be his face.

Green˛
2006-04-16, 17:39
speaking of Hakuoro,yeah,he couldn't take off that mask for 24/7 and how could that girls imgaine that he resemble to their father ?
Probably not by looks, but by spirit. Of what was seen of just these few episodes, probably reminds her in a way of what a father would be, a father to her.

and where did Hakuro was being saved by Eruruu ?? Alot of things are still unexplained..
Two episode on, and many more likely to go. ;)

Friera
2006-04-16, 18:16
Oh, I can't wait for the next episode. The dude there looks pretty interesting whoever he might be. ^^

And I really can't understand you boys. They are cute and whatever, but still. no need to drool all over the place.

Shiroth
2006-04-16, 18:52
And I really can't understand you boys. They are cute and whatever, but still. no need to drool all over the place.
Sorry.. but i don't see any drool. ^_^

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-16, 19:57
[And I really can't understand you boys. They are cute and whatever, but still. no need to drool all over the place.


I'm a proud drooler over Eruruu. :D

Shiroth
2006-04-16, 20:43
I'm a proud drooler over Eruruu. :D
I just have to agree with that, but still i haven't seen any drool.

solwyvern
2006-04-16, 20:51
wow, I've seen the first ep. and found it to be surprisingly cute. And has a great Op. theme song.

Alu
2006-04-16, 21:01
wow, I've seen the first ep. and found it to be surprisingly cute. And has a great Op. theme song.

Well, if you liked the first, then you'll surely love the second one, which I honestly found to be alot better..

And back to the OP theme song.., does anyone know where I can download it ?
I can't seem to find it anywhere..

I think I saw Zero mencione it was on his playlist already.., so... :)

Catgirls
2006-04-16, 21:09
Well, we all know which love story that is :DAbsolutely! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/Mousefinger/Misc/catgirl.gif

Catgirls, it'll be really great if we could add sound to .gifs (we can't right?) That sigh she did when her ears wilted made the moment.Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you view animated GIFs) the GIF format doesn't support embedded sound. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/Mousefinger/Misc/sad.gif I would have to convert it to Flash. So her sigh will have to reside in our minds for now.

Orchunter226
2006-04-16, 21:11
Well, if you liked the first, then you'll surely love the second one, which I honestly found to be alot better..

And back to the OP theme song.., does anyone know where I can download it ?
I can't seem to find it anywhere..

I think I saw Zero mencione it was on his playlist already.., so... :)

Ugh I know that thing is hard to find! So i just play the video of it when I get the chance :D.

Shiroth
2006-04-16, 21:14
The Op single's out on the 26th of April, i'm sure we can all wait for that. ^^

Shinova
2006-04-16, 21:15
And back to the OP theme song.., does anyone know where I can download it ?
I can't seem to find it anywhere..

If you have VirtualDub, you can always rip OPs and EDs out of the episodes. The program's free.

Or you can go here:

http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/utawarerumono_ep1.html

And notice that he has a rapidshare link to the OP song.

Orchunter226
2006-04-16, 21:54
If you have VirtualDub, you can always rip OPs and EDs out of the episodes. The program's free.

Or you can go here:

http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/utawarerumono_ep1.html

And notice that he has a rapidshare link to the OP song.

Ah I ripped the audio from it :D Good times :D

Vexx
2006-04-16, 22:18
Also finally watched the first ep here and about to watch the second....
This is kind of nice .... like an earlier poster said, a nice medieval fantasy setting with interesting species (the country folk). The people are pretty cute and sweet --- its always fascinating to watch the ears reflect the emotions. The "touching a girl's tail is pretty forward" bit was humorous. Only complaint so far is the dorkus childhood friend who grew up to be pathetic... kind of a generic thug.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-16, 23:11
I can't seem to find it anywhere..

I think I saw Zero mencione it was on his playlist already.., so...

I have the OP version in my list, but like Angelsama said, it's only out on April 26th.

Omigod, 9 days from now :D

Shinova
2006-04-16, 23:29
I assume that's the full version that'll be released then?


And I made an attempt at an animated Utawarerumono AV. It's a bit long for really good image quality. She's interests me, along with those metal things and that beast at the end of the OP, and I look forward to what the deeper parts of the plot will be like.

Shiroth
2006-04-17, 07:20
I assume that's the full version that'll be released then?
Indeed, with a Instrumental version.. and a new song. <3

lavielove
2006-04-17, 07:43
Now I'm rewatching the trailer again in there (http://www.vap.co.jp/utaware/index.html).I watched this trailer before the anime was started and now becoming more interesting =D the girl in the black feather looks so stylish.I think when Ereru and her sister are growing up and became like that.Ears and tails became shorter and feathers are came out.And the one who carried Ereru at the opening of trailer seems to be her daddy too.
[I think my spelling for Ereru is wrong but it's really painful to go back to previous post and copy,sorry]

Shinova
2006-04-17, 17:55
Now I'm rewatching the trailer again in there (http://www.vap.co.jp/utaware/index.html).I watched this trailer before the anime was started and now becoming more interesting =D the girl in the black feather looks so stylish.I think when Ereru and her sister are growing up and became like that.Ears and tails became shorter and feathers are came out.And the one who carried Ereru at the opening of trailer seems to be her daddy too.
[I think my spelling for Ereru is wrong but it's really painful to go back to previous post and copy,sorry]

Heh?

If by, "the girl in the black feather" you mean the girl with black wings, she's Kamyu. And she, Urutorii (the blonde with white wings), are different 'species' of animal people from Eruru, Aruru, etc.

And you probably have Eruru mistaken for Yuzuha. Yuzuha's the one being carried by that dude, Oboro, who is Yuzuha's older brother.

zalas
2006-04-17, 20:02
Just watched episode 3... my thoughts:

Yes! They fixed the Eruruw/Aruruw flower thing. In the game opening, the Eruruw and Aruruw flowers ended up on the same plant, whereas in the anime, they are properly separate plants.
Episode 3 branches off into a few ideas. While the main story dealt with the violet amber, the other side stories sorta give more substance to the world. However, I think they should've handled the transitions between them a bit better, as sometimes it felt kind of abrupt and rough.

Oboro's anguish was really nicely done, in my opinion, when he learns of his sister's fate. It would've been interesting for Yuzuha to have opened her eyes, just like she did in the opening. Lastly, I guess they decided to forego the pinky-tie which got Eruruw quite jealously upset in the game. However, I think this pinky-tie is probably going to be quite important for a certain scene later on, but maybe they'll add it then. Lastly, we finally have a cliffhanger! Looks like the local ruler is coming for a visit! Episode 4: The Path of No Return is looking great from the previews.

Orchunter226
2006-04-17, 21:06
*Explodes over anticipation for ep. 3*

For some reason I find myself pining to see more. This show has me thoroughly hooked. So I guess that makes it good in my book :D. I have to resist spoilers now.

Vexx
2006-04-18, 00:32
I ran うたわれるもの through babelfish and got "Those which are sung" ... kind of poetic sounding but then we know how often Babelfish comes off more like those psychotic AI that used to be popular in the 80s.

Anyone have a better interpretation? (as he reaches for the dictionary).

Oh, I can't wait for the next episode. The dude there looks pretty interesting whoever he might be. ^^

And I really can't understand you boys. They are cute and whatever, but still. no need to drool all over the place.

A term one might use is "xenophyllic" (love of the alien/foreign/exotic). Beings with alien features appear attractive to some people. In a very mild sense, being attracted to someone that looks different qualifies.

If you remember Riker from Star Trek:Next Generation.. I-swear-to-the-gods he'd bop anything at all if he thought it was sentient and he could have a conversation with her afterwards. He was an extreme xenophillic. :)

I love the way Ururu's ears move :)

zalas
2006-04-18, 01:36
There are two interpretations of Utawarerumono that somewhat make sense with the game. The first interpretation, "The Exalted One," is the literal one the game gives you at the start of the final battle and thus I'm not going to spoil you with the reasoning behind it. The second interpretation is that utawarerumono is also the word in Japanese used to describe the mythology/folktales/legends passed down orally through the Ainu people via songs and poems. In Ainugo, these are called yukar. The other way the Ainu people pass down their stories is through prose, called katararerumono in Japanese.

Green˛
2006-04-18, 03:58
A term one might use is "xenophyllic" (love of the alien/foreign/exotic). Beings with alien features appear attractive to some people. In a very mild sense, being attracted to someone that looks different qualifies.

If you remember Riker from Star Trek:Next Generation.. I-swear-to-the-gods he'd bop anything at all if he thought it was sentient and he could have a conversation with her afterwards. He was an extreme xenophillic. :)
Now I know why Data's cat hates him so much. ... Not that he's nuts. Just that the counselor gave up translating for him. :heh:


I love the way Ururu's ears move :)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1761/utawarep1lg019bq.gif

Cute, yes. Maybe even sexy to some. :)



/But anything more, then the Lt. Commander will have to stun you.

:joke:

solwyvern
2006-04-18, 05:35
yay, Gendou has the TV size opening. sounds really great.

Lost
2006-04-18, 07:41
yay, Gendou has the TV size opening. sounds really great.
Hmmm... don't know if anyone notices it, but the OP and ED versions from G have some stuttering static in the background.. Does anyone have the same problem? The static doesn't occur in the version of the OP i recorded off vlc.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-18, 07:41
Cute, yes. Maybe even sexy to some.


I demand the next episode has more tail-grabbing, otherwise I will go on an UtaMono strike!

Shiroth
2006-04-18, 07:54
I demand the next episode has more tail-grabbing
But, but.... Eruruu doesn't like it. ;_;

Lost
2006-04-18, 08:01
But, but.... Eruruu doesn't like it. ;_;
Oh no. I think she does. Most definitely yes. She does.

:heh:

Shiroth
2006-04-18, 08:07
Oh no. I think she does. Most definitely yes. She does.

:heh:
In some ways yeah, but you know she'd only want one person doing it.

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-18, 08:10
But, but.... Eruruu doesn't like it. ;_;

Well, you could think this way...

I just melt away when someone messes with my hair. But again, it's like you said, depends on the person.

I guess Eruruu feels that way. Although it's a bit embarassing to have someone touch you (hair, tail, whatever), it's still pretty pleasing.

If you ask me, I could make my dog go from a complete stressed state to an almost-sleeping one just by scratching her back at the base of her tail. She'd just melt on the ground and lie there quietly :heh: Wonder if Eruruu is like that after she gets used to your hands :D

Lost
2006-04-18, 08:19
In some ways yeah, but you know she'd only want one person doing it.
A fanboy can only dream....

Okay this is getting sick. But serious question - does anyone know whats the age relation between Eruruu and the masked guy? (sorry cant find his name)

edit: ah would it be Hakuoro?

edit 2: Personally I think that Eruruu looks way younger than Hakuoro, that was the impression I got when I first saw them together. In human years, my guess is that Eruruu is 17-18 and Hakuoro would be 25-30..

Vexx
2006-04-18, 11:24
That's probably a fair guess (at least observing the behavior of the tribe to her and her relationships with various people). She's definitely considered "ready for marriage" given the way the jerk tried to haul her off in ep 1 and the "wink wink nudge nudge" remarks from the wife of the axeman (whose name eludes me at the moment). His age is indeterminate but early 20s might be a fair estimate (I doubt the jerk is more than 19 or 20).

In the setting we're observing - all perfectly legit for a relationship.... though Eruru and H. seem to shift back and forth tween father/daughter and couple in terms of psychological feel. And, of course, having someone you trust stroke your back makes happy purrs from almost any mammal including humanoids :)

Xellos-_^
2006-04-18, 11:29
edit 2: Personally I think that Eruruu looks way younger than Hakuoro, that was the impression I got when I first saw them together. In human years, my guess is that Eruruu is 17-18 and Hakuoro would be 25-30..

Thats whaty i guess there age to be around as well. And in fedul times or even a hundred years ago, 10 years difference isn't really that much of difference between husband and wife.

Vexx
2006-04-18, 12:01
Actually, all you youngins are just being age spastic ... 10 years difference in age NOW in the present day is not really a big deal (between a 20yr old and 30yr old for example). I have a cousin who married someone 12 yrs older ... they both have the same hobbies (skiing, dancing, music tastes, etc).

rooboy
2006-04-18, 12:03
Thats whaty i guess there age to be around as well. And in fedul times or even a hundred years ago, 10 years difference isn't really that much of difference between husband and wife.Really, it's not much of a difference now. Noted, but hardly unusual. And it was fairly common until post-WWII.


I think Erururu is cute, but I don't think it has anything to do with her tail or the ears or whatever. Her expressions are cute (though her ears/tail do seem to make her more expressive). It's not that she has a tail, it's that she makes a cute little sound and blushes when it's stroked.

Similarly, the bunny costume girl from Suzumiya Haruhi makes a cute hiccup-y/sob/squeak sound when Haruhi offers to let Kyon feel her up. It's not that she's attractive precisely, but more that she's cute and makes you want to scoop her up and protect her from bad people. :)

Actually, all you youngins are just being age spastic ... 10 years difference in age NOW in the present day is not really a big deal (between a 20yr old and 30yr old for example). I have a cousin who married someone 12 yrs older ... they both have the same hobbies (skiing, dancing, music tastes, etc).That's a good point. 10 years seems significantly longer when you're twenty (say) than when you're thirty or forty or whatever. My wife is three years older than I am. When we got married (and I was 21) that seemed like a lot. Now that I'm 30, I don't even really notice.

Xellos-_^
2006-04-18, 12:09
Legal age for the girls aside. The next ep looks like things will start to get intresting. Looks like the start of the rebellion and the gathering of his harem has already started.

Vexx
2006-04-18, 12:48
... It's not that she's attractive precisely, but more that she's cute and makes you want to scoop her up and protect her from bad people. :)


quoted for great truth and applies to both Eruruu and Mikuru of Haruhi.

yeah... humans lost a lot of expressiveness when our ears and tail got so vestigal.

rooboy
2006-04-18, 12:52
quoted for great truth and applies to both Eruruu and Mikuru of Haruhi.

yeah... humans lost a lot of expressiveness when our ears and tail got so vestigal.


Have you been looking at my tail again????:eyebrow:

Vexx
2006-04-18, 13:13
Sorry, I confine my ear and tail observations to the female variety.... :)


edit:
Completely different subject: has anyone seen any merchandise for this show? Something tells me these characters would make really cute figurines (either the male or the females .... being able to snare a nice set of Hakuroro and Ururuu would be stellar.

KJlost
2006-04-18, 22:10
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/KJlost/Utawarerumono_03.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/KJlost/Utawarerumono_04.jpg

I had to smile during this scene and right after when Aruru kept calling Hakuoro 'otou-san'.

Vexx
2006-04-18, 23:43
Of course, using "otousan" now confuses me about her relationship with Hakuoro ... maybe she herself is confused :) (Aruruu: do I want him to be "daddy" or "my guy"). Dunno... some girls refer to their boyfriends as "my daddy" .... now my head hurts --- a nap is in order.

edit: I've made a grave error ... I was working on something else while watching the ep2 the first time. I thought it was older sister who used the term "otousan" once. It was only the younger sister (for whom the father reference makes perfect sense). The older sister has not used that term and, it looks, as if she has a bit of a crush on him. Yeesh, pardon my confusion on names too which only made it look worse.

RunningTARGET
2006-04-18, 23:56
Of course, using "otousan" now confuses me about her relationship with Hakuoro ... maybe she herself is confused :) (Aruruu: do I want him to be "daddy" or "my guy"). Dunno... some girls refer to their boyfriends as "my daddy" .... now my head hurts --- a nap is in order.


Noooooo! Anything different will do but nothing like Mai Otome.

I think Aruru makes a very cute daughter, and we leave it at that. :D


Umm I wonder at what eps no. would we see the cub get bigger?

Vexx
2006-04-19, 00:17
I'll easily admit I know zipzero about the source material --- I just kind of got the impression that Ururuu doesn't really know how to think of Haruoko -- as a "father" (the family thread) or as a potential consort. It seems to shift back and forth in the two eps I've seen. Hopefully, the epic part of the show doesn't swamp this little relationship out. Its very interesting to watch.

Lost
2006-04-19, 00:33
Umm I wonder at what eps no. would we see the cub get bigger?
I was thinking it'll be cool if he was like Kirara in Inu-Yasha. You know, transforming to full size during battle, killing everyone, then back to chibi cuteness after combat. :uhoh: But doubt that will happen, and I think if he grows big, Aruruu will also grow big, and hence the tiger cub shldnt grow big..

I'll easily admit I know zipzero about the source material --- I just kind of got the impression that Ururuu doesn't really know how to think of Haruoko -- as a "father" (the family thread) or as a potential consort. It seems to shift back and forth in the two eps I've seen. Hopefully, the epic part of the show doesn't swamp this little relationship out. Its very interesting to watch.
Actually somehow finding out that Hakuoro is actually her father's name kinda makes me not want to root for a Hakuoro-Eruruu relationship anymore... :heh:

KiNA
2006-04-19, 01:04
I was thinking it'll be cool if he was like Kirara in Inu-Yasha. You know, transforming to full size during battle, killing everyone, then back to chibi cuteness after combat. :uhoh: But doubt that will happen, and I think if he grows big, Aruruu will also grow big, and hence the tiger cub shldnt grow big..

Ohhh.. sort of Natsume Maya o_o

As much as I love that tail grabbing reaction, abusing it again like what happened to poor Mikuru-chan is unacceptable >.< Its cheapen the effect ;_;

Eruru definitely next girl on my sig ... Haruhi had been shared with too many peoples here -.-

zalas
2006-04-19, 02:12
I'll easily admit I know zipzero about the source material --- I just kind of got the impression that Ururuu doesn't really know how to think of Haruoko -- as a "father" (the family thread) or as a potential consort. It seems to shift back and forth in the two eps I've seen. Hopefully, the epic part of the show doesn't swamp this little relationship out. Its very interesting to watch.
I'm pretty sure it's of the paternal variety. She's just very attached to him. Imagine if you've had your father die when you're little and then seeing him come back, reincarnated. It's possible Aruruw was missing a father figure in her life, or even a parent figure. And I don't care if you use Aruruw(Ainu romanization) or Aruruu(Japanese? romanization) or Aruru(simplified romanization), but please don't use Ururuu, because that's VERY ambiguous, as I can't figure out easily if it's Aruruw, Eruruw or Urutoriy (who shows up later, guessing around ep 9 or so).

Green˛
2006-04-19, 03:20
I'm pretty sure it's of the paternal variety. She's just very attached to him. Imagine if you've had your father die when you're little and then seeing him come back, reincarnated. It's possible Aruruw was missing a father figure in her life, or even a parent figure. And I don't care if you use Aruruw(Ainu romanization) or Aruruu(Japanese? romanization) or Aruru(simplified romanization), but please don't use Ururuu, because that's VERY ambiguous, as I can't figure out easily if it's Aruruw, Eruruw or Urutoriy (who shows up later, guessing around ep 9 or so).
Ururuu = Eruruu, I was thinking. Otherwise, grab the cat! :heh:

Which then, yes, the relationship between Eruruu and New Haruoko appears still a bit undefined at this point. Haruoko, seen as a father figure in the eye of Aruruu. But for Eruruu, probably seen as just another stranger, where the relationship, if any later, has much further to build before it has an chance to swing either way.

RunningTARGET
2006-04-19, 06:45
Ururuu = Eruruu, I was thinking. Otherwise, grab the cat! :heh:

Which then, yes, the relationship between Eruruu and New Haruoko appears still a bit undefined at this point. Haruoko, seen as a father figure in the eye of Aruruu. But for Eruruu, probably seen as just another stranger, where the relationship, if any later, has much further to build before it has an chance to swing either way.


Well it seems Eruruu is the only one doing the blushing though. If we see Harouko blush it would seem so out off character its not funny, not to mentioned it would look very weird. :twitch:

I dont know, I still favor the father figure right now, especially with Aruruu. ;)

Vexx
2006-04-19, 07:27
I'm pretty sure it's of the paternal variety. She's just very attached to him. Imagine if you've had your father die when you're little and then seeing him come back, reincarnated. It's possible Aruruw was missing a father figure in her life, or even a parent figure. And I don't care if you use Aruruw(Ainu romanization) or Aruruu(Japanese? romanization) or Aruru(simplified romanization), but please don't use Ururuu, because that's VERY ambiguous, as I can't figure out easily if it's Aruruw, Eruruw or Urutoriy (who shows up later, guessing around ep 9 or so).

In scientific terms, thats what I'd label as an "oops" ... meant Eruruu ( not happy with "uu" but keyboards lack convenient character accents). Still trying to memorize the spelling and probably glanced up at the wrong post.

The impression I was getting was that the younger sister was having "father" flashes but being very tentative about whether to trust him (yelling "father"). But the older sister was shifting in the ambiguity that I mentioned earlier (though it could be even more complex like most relationships usually are).

I'm more of the "romance" camp, but I'll keep watching to see how it plays out -- it probably really depends on the target audience. I keep getting vibes this is designed for a younger audience, though I suppose its the animation art style that leads me that way. The few game CGs I've seen make me wish they'd gone with a studio capable of lusher animation.

Shiroth
2006-04-19, 07:30
I keep getting vibes this is designed for a younger audience, though I suppose its the animation art style that leads me that way. The few game CGs I've seen make me wish they'd gone with a studio capable of lusher animation.
Sorry, but i can't undserstand how you can label the show for younger audience. Maybe its your age talking, but i find it to be the perfect type of anime for mostly any age group.

Vexx
2006-04-19, 07:51
Sorry, but i can't undserstand how you can label the show for younger audience. Maybe its your age talking, but i find it to be the perfect type of anime for mostly any age group.

well.. like I said, the animation style is throwing me those vibes (I haven't actually "labeled" yet) though it varies in quality even within a single episode. I've not seen enough episodes to decide who they might be appealing to... so far it could appeal to any age as you say since it operates on multiple levels (the more grown up stuff slipping over the heads of younger viewers).

I should do more research on the source material for the anime.


edit: I've made a grave error (also noted in the original post) ... I was working on something else while watching the ep2 the first time. I thought it was older sister who used the term "otousan" once. It was only the younger sister (for whom the father reference makes perfect sense). The older sister has not used that term and, it looks, as if she has a bit of a crush on him. Yeesh, pardon my confusion on names too which only made it look worse.

Older sister has made repeated ambiguous remarks to Haruoka and to the other tribe members about what she thinks of him (not even including the very deep pit she dug while yelling at "jerk-san, childhood ex-friend" .... and they certainly consider him "marriageable" material for her (about the only thing grandma and Oyaji-san's wife don't do is push her on top of him in some scenes ... very cute).

Kaoru Chujo
2006-04-19, 14:33
I think Eruru is shown as having romantic feelings for Hakuoro. It may be being hinted that Aruru has such feelings, too. Doesn't she call him "Father" because he's the "father" of the cub, and she the mother? This could be like when couples call each other "otousan" and "okaasan".

Vexx
2006-04-19, 15:09
Ah... now there's a cute thought I hadn't considered (he's the daddy of the cub, she's the mommy - now here have some tea).
I was looking at the game descriptions but other than it being an RPG, its difficult to tell whether it contains mature themes or not.
The series certainly doesn't sugarcoat the danger ( a family getting eaten alive should give most people a bit of queazy ) but if it just becomes an action story with little romance I'll be really disappointed.
I get the intuitive sense Haruoko is going to rally the villagers against a corrupt lord ala Robin Hood --- and I would just kind of enjoy the show more if Eruruu ended up being his Marian. :)

Xellos-_^
2006-04-19, 15:27
Ah... now there's a cute thought I hadn't considered (he's the daddy of the cub, she's the mommy - now here have some tea).
I was looking at the game descriptions but other than it being an RPG, its difficult to tell whether it contains mature themes or not.
The series certainly doesn't sugarcoat the danger ( a family getting eaten alive should give most people a bit of queazy ) but if it just becomes an action story with little romance I'll be really disappointed.
I get the intuitive sense Haruoko is going to rally the villagers against a corrupt lord ala Robin Hood --- and I would just kind of enjoy the show more if Eruruu ended up being his Marian. :)

With the childhoo "jerk" friend as Sheriff of naughtyham and Patrick Stewart as the King. haruko will leads band of Merry Man in tights to battle the corrupt nobles.

kj1980
2006-04-19, 15:30
Too many dyslexic posters here:

x Haruoko
x Haruko
o Hakuoro

Vexx
2006-04-19, 15:46
Thanks... I don't usually have this trouble with names in anime but for some reason I can't get the names in this one to stick "in mah haed"

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-19, 15:54
I think Eruru is shown as having romantic feelings for Hakuoro. It may be being hinted that Aruru has such feelings, too. Doesn't she call him "Father" because he's the "father" of the cub, and she the mother? This could be like when couples call each other "otousan" and "okaasan".

... Didn't you guys get it from the start?

Remember, when Hakuoro found the kitty on his feet and grabbed him, while Aruruu came searching for him? He called her "Mother", and she hugged him and said "father".

I still don't really think she has such passionate feelings for him, but that scene really means that she considers him to be the father, while she's the mother. Remember that it's solely because of him that the cub wasn't killed, and I'm sure that, because of that, he gained Aruruu's affection and/or respect.

Vexx
2006-04-19, 16:13
Concerning Eruruu's grandmother talking about her big sister "priestess" in ep 2 when they were cowering in their hut ---

I believe that was more serious than some might think. It reads to me like grandma's "big sister" was sent into the forest as a priestess ... but she was sent as a *sacrifice* to the tiger-god, hence Aruruu's terrified reach of Aruruu. To pacify one of the elder gods often demanded sacrifice. Aruruu was making the connection that, as the sole of-age maiden of the village - Eruruu might be the primo offering. Even in what we might consider "happyupbeat" Shinto beliefs, there were some nasty bits just like most other religions when coupled with frightened villagers.


@Zero: I initially mistook it for her calling Hakuoro "daddy" because he reminded her of "daddy" .... then I noticed the chronology of their parents dying and had a "d'oh" moment rewatching the scene (the first time I was running it on the side while doing other work and wasn't paying proper attention).
I promise not to comment on any more eps until I've seen it without being distracted :)

Zero Shinohara
2006-04-19, 18:04
@Zero: I initially mistook it for her calling Hakuoro "daddy" because he reminded her of "daddy" .... then I noticed the chronology of their parents dying and had a "d'oh" moment rewatching the scene (the first time I was running it on the side while doing other work and wasn't paying proper attention).
I promise not to comment on any more eps until I've seen it without being distracted

Oh come on, nobody in here is blaming ya for this :P

But I have to say that it's easy to misunderstand, since it was implied both in the beginning of the series and in the end of episode 2 that Hakuoro appeared (and now has the name of) just like Eruruu and Aruruu's father. So it does confuse having Aruruu calling him daddy /ok

Shiroth
2006-04-19, 18:24
It'll be good to see how Aruruu & Hakuro's relationship shall evolve as the series goes on, i for one am very happy that its going to be 26 episodes.

Well, time to go play the game. ^_^

Vexx
2006-04-19, 18:28
I'm tempted to buy the game .... its a bit pricey but at least its an RPG wrapped around a story, unlike the simpler novel games.

Shiroth
2006-04-19, 18:30
I say buy it, and even if you don't play it much - its still good to have on your shelf. ^^;

Srin Tuar
2006-04-19, 18:39
I'm tempted to buy the game .... its a bit pricey but at least its an RPG wrapped around a story, unlike the simpler novel games.


Im not sure its an RPG.

The version of this game I tried really only one thing to do: click left mouse button.
Not really a "game" per se.

(otoh, its much like diablo- click repeatedly and things happen)

zalas
2006-04-19, 19:35
It is essentially a novel-type game, with some choices as to where you go for the day, etc. but do not have any bearing on the outcome of the story. Inside this game is buried 29 battles, which are SRPG in style. The only way to lose the game is to die in a battle and not retry. If you are unsure about the game, wait for the PS2 version, as it will remove the mostly useless H scenes, add voice, and add tweaks/changes to the battle system.

Vexx
2006-04-19, 20:21
of course, that implies I own any console systems.... but I saw an article about running a PS2 game under linux --- that may prove interesting.

I'm ambivalent about any H scenes, but the PC game doesn't have voice acting?

rooboy
2006-04-19, 20:45
I promise not to comment on any more eps until I've seen it without being distracted :)
What's the fun of that? :)

Green˛
2006-04-19, 22:22
I think Eruru is shown as having romantic feelings for Hakuoro. It may be being hinted that Aruru has such feelings, too. Doesn't she call him "Father" because he's the "father" of the cub, and she the mother? This could be like when couples call each other "otousan" and "okaasan".
Somehow I just don't see right now,

Aruruu: Daddy, will you help make another cub with me?

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4170/snapshot20060414222151b1ug.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Don't say it. Don't say it. :twitch: :heh: :eyebrow:

For Hakuoro, sees Aruruu as probably either just cute,.. maybe also as like a father to her. Aruruu, maybe just being cute. But that's Aruruu -- cuteness.

/Somebody grab that damned cat already!

Vexx
2006-04-19, 23:33
Good lord, man... never had a little girl insist you sit down and "play house" with her? (all the stuffed animals are the kids, you're the dad --- then most of it consists of the little girl bossing you around about "things that need to be done around the house") ... often you learn more about the day-to-day of her parent's daily conversation than you wanted to know :)

Aruruu may have a little girl's "crush on Dad" with Hakuoro being substituted, but thats about the extent of it ... he's kind of clueless about little kids though other than "be nice to them".

Eruruu seems to have more mature motives skittering around just below her consciousness.

Green˛
2006-04-20, 01:25
Good lord, man... never had a little girl insist you sit down and "play house" with her? (all the stuffed animals are the kids, you're the dad --- then most of it consists of the little girl bossing you around about "things that need to be done around the house") ... often you learn more about the day-to-day of her parent's daily conversation than you wanted to know :)
No. But probably just not that old yet.

/Green˛ is then seen grabbing the cat, where they run away as Vexx throws random objects in retaliation.

Aruruu may have a little girl's "crush on Dad" with Hakuoro being substituted, but thats about the extent of it ... he's kind of clueless about little kids though other than "be nice to them".
Possible. -I think I did see Aruruu blush at some point after during that scene. But I'm guessing that this will last longer than just some one day game.

KiNA
2006-04-20, 02:02
The way I see thing is ... Here we have a little girl who have lost her father ... Then, some unknown guy happened to betaken home and cared by her closest family and that guy even get to wear their lost father's clothing .. Of course the girl get confused (or sad, or angry) as this new guy seems to be replacing her father .. What more, her only sister seems to take a liking with this guy as well .. Then came this cub incident, the whole town are against her, suddenly, this guy came to her rescue, siding with her to defend what seems precious to her (the cub) and a whiole new side of this guy just been shown to her and she finally can accept this new guy as her father (maybe even see her father's kind side in this guy).

I probably cant say this trough out the series.. but the cub is damn cute =3

Lost
2006-04-20, 03:59
So from what I've been reading, let me summarize. With regard to Aruruu calling Hakuoro "otousan" there may be two possible inferences made. (1) She finally accepts Hakuoro as taking the place of her dead father, accepts Hakuoro as a father figure. (2) What some others have been saying, how Aruruu views Hakuoro as father of her family, the family consisting of Aruruu (mother), Cub (baby) and Hakuoro (Otousan). *pls correct me if I'm wrong*

My view: I prefer seeing it as (1), but I don't deny that number (2) is equally plausible. I don't know if the guys (or the gals, for that matter) here notice that these sort of fantasies (innocent fantasies, mind you) tend to occur to girls that age? Don't flame me, I've observed it for real several times.

@KiNa: I don't know.. I think he's too fat :p :p

Aruruu: Daddy, will you help make another cub with me?
Daddy: *touched* I felt... as if I was happy.
Aruruu: *whips out playdoh set*
Daddy: Nani?? -.-

zalas
2006-04-20, 04:12
So from what I've been reading, let me summarize. With regard to Aruruu calling Hakuoro "otousan" there may be two possible inferences made. (1) She finally accepts Hakuoro as taking the place of her dead father, accepts Hakuoro as a father figure. (2) What some others have been saying, how Aruruu views Hakuoro as father of her family, the family consisting of Aruruu (mother), Cub (baby) and Hakuoro (Otousan). *pls correct me if I'm wrong*

My view: I prefer seeing it as (1), but I don't deny that number (2) is equally plausible. I don't know if the guys (or the gals, for that matter) here notice that these sort of fantasies (innocent fantasies, mind you) tend to occur to girls that age? Don't flame me, I've observed it for real several times.
The game supports the first conclusion. Some other people who have played the game also felt it odd that they decided to do this in the anime, since the juxtaposition makes it kind of ambiguous what Aruruw means. In the game, Hakuoro gets his name earlier on, and Aruruw gets on friendly terms with him earlier on because he offered help with Aruruw's honeycomb obsession.

Lost
2006-04-20, 04:17
Aruruw's honeycomb obsession.
Oh that sounds interesting.. Care to elaborate? :D

Green˛
2006-04-20, 04:59
Oh that sounds interesting.. Care to elaborate? :D
?! Animation opener. Maybe they'll go into something more at an later point.

Shiroth
2006-04-20, 07:23
I was just trying to remember.. but my minds gone completely empty - can anymore think of some anime shows that had a younger girl calling an adult there father?

I wouldn't mind seeing how it plays out, in terms with Haruoko & Aruruu.

KiNA
2006-04-20, 07:33
^ My Otome =x

lavielove
2006-04-20, 07:37
She called her otosan for two kinds of reason actually.One is a otaku trap.Really sad to say that,but that's true.Another one is Hakuoro resembled to her father,(may be)who knows? But I'm pretty enjoying with both of the reasons.The last time we saw this kind of relationship was in Shimigami no Ballad episode 1.

I think that's a popular trends in these days.If a girl gets a pet she will likely to find the guy to take care of the pet (together). That's really complicated and I don't understand that kind of feeling but seeing more than one or more times becoming a factor that I'm being aware of.

KiNA
2006-04-20, 07:56
I think that's a popular trends in these days.If a girl gets a pet she will likely to find the guy to take care of the pet (together). That's really complicated and I don't understand that kind of feeling but seeing more than one or more times becoming a factor that I'm being aware of.
Its a trend? o_o Gosh!! I thought I was the only victim -_- because I know no one else in my immidiate circle suffers it -_-

Anyway as much as I love cats, I still hate to take care Persian daily needs (much less a pair) -_- . And I just send them to their mummy's house next door for bathing :D

Green˛
2006-04-20, 08:40
Last I remembered, Aruruu, "I... promised..." -As to where she got the cub when asked.

If promised, to whom? Could Aruruu acquire the cub all on her own? Mutikapa probably has to hunt, thus leaving the den unsecured. Yet knowing when would require close observation, probably of a skilled hunter, to hide any traces of scent & presence. All that Aruruu is capable of?

Scent. Of course, something had to led the Mutikapa to her cub. That place, the village.

One house during the attack was damaged very badly. It's occupants, all killed. Could that house at some point, been holding the cub? Not of Aruruu's house it seems,.. but just about anyone native within that village would've likely known about the dangers of angering the Mutikapa. Stupid mistake?

They would've known near the end of why the Mutikapa was attacking the village. Of course, like a bomb, one would've needed to get rid of it. Enter Aruruu?

Surprising that the Mutikapa didn't go straight after Aruruu if she had the cub during that attack. ... Probably an stronger concentrated scent within that house. But a skilled hunter would've known this, and with that, taking off for the hills with all family occupants. Another third party? The house is probably all dead, and with that, the knowledge of what that third party may be. Aruruu, probably not even connected.... but just probably used to keep the awareness down within the village.

Lost
2006-04-20, 08:59
Last I remembered, Aruruu, "I... promised..." -As to where she got the cub when asked.

If promised, to whom? Could Aruruu acquire the cub all on her own? Mutikapa probably has to hunt, thus leaving the den unsecured. Yet knowing when would require close observation, probably of a skilled hunter, to hide any traces of scent & presence. All that Aruruu is capable of?

Scent. Of course, something had to led the Mutikapa to her cub. That place, the village.

One house during the attack was damaged very badly. It's occupants, all killed. Could that house at some point, been holding the cub? Not of Aruruu's house it seems,.. but just about anyone native within that village would've likely known about the dangers of angering the Mutikapa. Stupid mistake?

They would've known near the end of why the Mutikapa was attacking the village. Of course, like a bomb, one would've needed to get rid of it. Enter Aruruu?

Surprising that the Mutikapa didn't go straight after Aruruu if she had the cub during that attack. ... Probably an stronger concentrated scent within that house. But a skilled hunter would've known this, and with that, taking off for the hills with all family occupants. Another third party? The house is probably all dead, and with that, the knowledge of what that third party may be. Aruruu, probably not even connected.... but just probably used to keep the awareness down within the village. Sorry I cant quite understand your post, did you write it when you were tired? :p Are you trying to say that Multikapa got so pissed because someone in the village took her cub?
That doesn't really make sense :heh: We can safely say that the cub was no where near the village, nor was it hidden in the village. Why? Because Aruruu disappeared before coming back with the cub. Rmb, the villagers were searching everywhere in and around the village for her. So I don't think she retrieved the cub from the village. Which prob means that she went out, where? Possibly to the den.

You may argue that before those events, the cub was hidden in the house that was attacked during the night. But I doubt so, because if the cub was there, Mutikapa would have been seen carrying it away with her when she retreated from Hakuoro. But she ran away carrying nothing, not even returning to the house (she shld have, if her cub was in there).

My theory on the promise: Aruruu, like her grandmother's older sister, has that ability of priestess, to communicate with Mutikapa(?)--the fact that she reached out to Eruruu with her eyes filled with compassion may mean she understands being like that. The promise she made wasnt made to a person, it was made to a dying Mutikapa. A promise to Mutikapa to take care of her cub.edit: whoops. spoiler tag. :heh:

?! Animation opener. Maybe they'll go into something more at an later point.
Oh yeah.. So that was honey.. :heh:

Mb81
2006-04-20, 09:44
So, one comments from me regarding Utawarerumono. Must admit.. i never heard of that series before ever... Well, so far i can say, it is pretty good. Nice character designs, normal story. I just hope there will be some more action soon. It may get´s kinda boring otherwise.

Vexx
2006-04-20, 10:19
Concerning the promise:

there was that one scene at night when Aruruu got those weird eyes while listening to Mutikapa roar... perhaps there was a low level connection (her priestess blood) between her and Mutikapa. So as soon as Mutikapa was dead, she skittered off to save the cub (the Aruruu is lost sequence).

If you want to come up with a natural reason for the sudden Mutikapa attacks rather than a supernatural reason --- I'd guess the new cub was forcing her to go after higher quantities of "protein". Of course, the cub means that somewhere there is a male tiger that roams the lands (though if they follow tiger behavior he just passes through periodically).


I don't know that I'd call a little girl calling someone "daddy" who has done nice things for her and resembles her father, been named after her father -- an otaku trap (if that means what I think it means). Aruruu is just exhibiting basic child psychology. For Hakuoro, its just a another clue he's been adopted by this little family - he effectively now has a daughter (and a possible consort in Eruruu though I'm sure they'll torture us til the end of the series with that relationship), and a "mother" in the village elder.

Green˛
2006-04-20, 11:02
Sorry I cant quite understand your post, did you write it when you were tired? :p Are you trying to say that Multikapa got so pissed because someone in the village took her cub?
That doesn't really make sense :heh: We can safely say that the cub was no where near the village, nor was it hidden in the village. Why? Because Aruruu disappeared before coming back with the cub. Rmb, the villagers were searching everywhere in and around the village for her. So I don't think she retrieved the cub from the village. Which prob means that she went out, where? Possibly to the den.

You may argue that before those events, the cub was hidden in the house that was attacked during the night. But I doubt so, because if the cub was there, Mutikapa would have been seen carrying it away with her when she retreated from Hakuoro. But she ran away carrying nothing, not even returning to the house (she shld have, if her cub was in there).

My theory on the promise: Aruruu, like her grandmother's older sister, has that ability of priestess, to communicate with Mutikapa(?)--the fact that she reached out to Eruruu with her eyes filled with compassion may mean she understands being like that. The promise she made wasnt made to a person, it was made to a dying Mutikapa. A promise to Mutikapa to take care of her cub.edit: whoops. spoiler tag. :heh:

Of course what we do not know is when Aruruu went missing from the village. First encounter of the Mutikapa however, the cub was probably moved during before the attack, as everybody knew the Mutikapa was soon coming. Possibly, the cub may have been in another location within the village, but due to the encounter with the rain and further resistance, had to give up the search.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9494/snapshot20060414220527b3fx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The day after, the second encounter was even more expected, and, maybe even at a point, Aruruu might've realized the problem that she was holding. Thus running off from the village.

Ep.1-
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1390/snapshot20060420113715b6kb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Almost have to wonder...

So, one comments from me regarding Utawarerumono. Must admit.. i never heard of that series before ever... Well, so far i can say, it is pretty good. Nice character designs, normal story. I just hope there will be some more action soon. It may get´s kinda boring otherwise.
If anything like what was seen of the opener, I've got a feeling that as to the action, this is going to rock. :)

Vexx
2006-04-20, 11:08
Green's theory isn't really offbase and just as likely as mine at the moment given the info we have. Unfortunately, unless Aruruu herself coughs up more data - we're kind of stuck for now. I will say Green's theory has more tragic pathos to it :)

PastPrime
2006-04-20, 11:15
Green's theory isn't really offbase and just as likely as mine at the moment given the info we have. Unfortunately, unless Aruruu herself coughs up more data - we're kind of stuck for now. I will say Green's theory has more tragic pathos to it :)
Your theory matches what I thoght when I watched the second episode. Aruruu seemed to always be around watching them until after Multikapa was killed.

lavielove
2006-04-20, 11:23
Your theory matches what I thoght when I watched the second episode. Aruruu seemed to always be around watching them until after Multikapa was killed.
That's self explanatory,isn't it ? how far such the cub can go ? But one thing is puzzeling to my mind after reading your post by now.Aruruu may saw he killed the tiger but why she doesn't hate him ?

Lost
2006-04-20, 11:32
Of course what we do not know is when Aruruu went missing from the village. First encounter of the Mutikapa however, the cub was probably moved during before the attack, as everybody knew the Mutikapa was soon coming. Possibly, the cub may have been in another location within the village, but due to the encounter with the rain and further resistance, had to give up the search.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9494/snapshot20060414220527b3fx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The day after, the second encounter was even more expected, and, maybe even at a point, Aruruu might've realized the problem that she was holding. Thus running off from the village.

Ep.1-
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1390/snapshot20060420113715b6kb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Almost have to wonder...
Hmmm.. Yeah, didn't think of that possibility. But then who was the promise made to?

Aruruu may saw he killed the tiger but why she doesn't hate him ?
Good question... Actually I was expecting her to see him as the bad-guy now. But I can only explain this by saying that Aruruu heard the poor family being killed. So maybe, just maybe, she understands why it must be done. Unlikely, but cant think of anything better..

I will say Green's theory has more tragic pathos to it
But... but... Mine has more... more Mystery!!!

j/k :D But yeah, more info is in the order.

dan88
2006-04-20, 12:15
The biggest mystery for me is why the Multikapa tiger did not attack Eruruu & Hakuoro.

This leads me to speculate..... Is it because Eruruu looked like Aruruu?

Did Aruruu have some relationship with the Multikapa and already know about the cub.
When she saw the mum Multikapa being overcome did she go and rescue the orphaned cub from the den. I got the impression the Multikapa den was not close to the village and not easy for a young girl to find in the forest suggesting she already knew where to go and what she would find.

Alternatively did the grandmothers sister become the Multikapa, thus making Eruruu and Aruruu her kin?
Or did the grandmothers sister (who might have looked like Eruruu) look after the Multikapa when it was a cub.

Did the Multikapa become more aggressive after having a cub which made it more protective of it's territory

Shinova
2006-04-20, 12:28
The biggest mystery for me is why the Multikapa tiger did not attack Eruruu & Hakuoro.

This leads me to speculate..... Is it because Eruruu looked like Aruruu?

Did Aruruu have some relationship with the Multikapa and already know about the cub.
When she saw the mum Multikapa being overcome did she go and rescue the orphaned cub from the den. I got the impression the Multikapa den was not close to the village and not easy for a young girl to find in the forest suggesting she already knew where to go and what she would find.

Alternatively did the grandmothers sister become the Multikapa, thus making Eruruu and Aruruu her kin?
Or did the grandmothers sister (who might have looked like Eruruu) look after the Multikapa when it was a cub.

Did the Multikapa become more aggressive after having a cub which made it more protective of it's territory



The reason isn't as complicated as you make it out to be. It was starting to rain, so Mutikapa decided then would be a nice time to beat it for the time being. Remember that she becomes vulnerable when wet.

Lost
2006-04-20, 12:31
The biggest mystery for me is why the Multikapa tiger did not attack Eruruu & Hakuoro.

This leads me to speculate..... Did Aruruu have some relationship with the Multikapa and already know about the cub.
When she saw the mum Multikapa being overcome did she go and rescue the orphaned cub from the den. I got the impression the Multikapa den was not close to the village and not easy for a young girl to find in the forest suggesting she already knew where to go and what she would find.
Yeah, that relationship with Mutikapa is a theory I agree with; but as of now, it can't be anymore than just a theory. :(

But I think they explained why the tiger didnt attack them in episode 2 (sort of). Somehow when Eruruu screamed, it started to rain (which may mean she has a special water priestess-like power). Apparently, water weakens Mutikapa's fur which had henceforth been acting as an armor. Essentially, Mutikapa is afraid of water. (cliche huh) And thats why she ran. Hmmm.. but thinking back, there was quite a long moment between when the Eruruu screamed and when the rain fell, during which Mutikapa could have attacked...
Ah.. speculation speculation... :heh:

kj1980
2006-04-20, 12:52
Yeah, that relationship with Mutikapa is a theory I agree with; but as of now, it can't be anymore than just a theory. :(

But I think they explained why the tiger didnt attack them in episode 2 (sort of). Somehow when Eruruu screamed, it started to rain (which may mean she has a special water priestess-like power). Apparently, water weakens Mutikapa's fur which had henceforth been acting as an armor. Essentially, Mutikapa is afraid of water. (cliche huh) And thats why she ran. Hmmm.. but thinking back, there was quite a long moment between when the Eruruu screamed and when the rain fell, during which Mutikapa could have attacked...
Ah.. speculation speculation... :heh:

Also, they were in a pool of water-mud.

Catgirls
2006-04-20, 15:35
Somebody just woke up...

http://i3.tinypic.com/w01fs1.gif

Vexx
2006-04-20, 16:33
I've been looking for an Eruruu avatar... but there aren't many out there and flipping through the episodes I'm having trouble finding a likely target frame myself.

rooboy
2006-04-20, 16:35
If you find one I'll take a shot at it (I've just started doing them for my cell phone). :)

Shiroth
2006-04-20, 17:04
Somebody just woke up...
Looks like she's being a good mother, look forward to episode 03.

RunningTARGET
2006-04-21, 03:10
Looks like she's being a good mother, look forward to episode 03.

Yeah especially the...

Aruruu and cub running with brown sacks


Wow so much talk on Aruruu, multikapa and Hakuoro being her otoh san.

How old do you think Aruruu's age is? I see her around the age of 8 to 10 she really isnt old enough to comprehend whats happening around her, afterall she called the cub her baby and called hakuoro the otoh san. :rolleyes:



have a Eruruu.

http://xs77.xs.to/pics/06165/eruruu.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs77&d=06165&f=eruruu.jpg)

Shiroth
2006-04-21, 07:25
Hmm, i'm gonna say Aruruu's 11.

Thats just the age that i get in my head when i look at her.

lavielove
2006-04-21, 08:23
I think they don't use the same number system we use.

Lost
2006-04-21, 08:25
Hmm, i'm gonna say Aruruu's 11.

Thats just the age that i get in my head when i look at her.
Is it? I get the age 6-8...

I think they don't use the same number system we use.
Doggie years perhaps? :heh:

Vexx
2006-04-21, 11:10
I'd guess 9 yrs for Aruruu given the simple tribal setting .... problem is we're dealing with a world and civilization setting that makes any such guesses a waste of time. All you can really say is that Eruruu is of "marriageable" age and the Aruruu hasn't reached puberty yet.

As far as Hakuoro... in our world he might be in his mid 20s but he might be 19 in that world - especially if the average lifespan is, lets say, 45 yrs or less like it was in similar periods in our past.

Alexander the Great was 18 when he began to conquer the world, ya know - and died at the age of 32 from a fever.

Shiroth
2006-04-21, 11:27
Hakuoro's perfect at the age of mid 20s, perfect age also his style of character.

RunningTARGET
2006-04-21, 18:10
Alexander the Great was 18 when he began to conquer the world, ya know - and died at the age of 32 from a fever.


Must of been some fever. :heh:
As far as we can tell our guesses are properbly as good as the creators, they properbly dont know their age, untill they put something down that is. We dont even know the place they live is earth or not. So god knows how long a year is there.

Well its too early in the show so far I guess we will later find out.

Urzu 7
2006-04-22, 02:02
Wow, I say this is my new favorite anime. Well, one of many, I've checked out so many lately with this new season and all. :D

Anywho, I'm really liking this series so far. I hope it one day becomes liscensed and released over here, that'd be good.

Also, is the game Japan only?

Vexx
2006-04-22, 02:26
yeah, the game (which is kind of an RPG with visual novel characteristics - for PC) is in japanese only. There's a PS2 version in the works but also only in japanese.

The game can be ordered through exporters but I'm currently trying to find an exporter that doesn't charge a premium price for it (I'm a bit suspicious of Himeyashop's prices these days).

Bah... every place I tried I ran into that damned "software games are strategic resources and can't be shipped out of the country" bullshit (especially annoying with amazon.co.jp where it was listed at 36% off MSRP). Completely idiotic...

My normal source www.nippon-export.com is overwhelmed with requests at the moment (I should be happy they're so popular) so I ended up ordering it from Himeyashop.

Tiberium Wolf
2006-04-22, 06:37
"software games are strategic resources and can't be shipped out of the country"


Strategic resources ??? :confused: :confused: :confused: Why?

rooboy
2006-04-22, 06:56
Strategic resources ??? :confused: :confused: :confused: Why?
This is actually no different than it is in the US. Export laws controlling computer software and hardware are actually quite strict, and I don't believe they make any kind of distinction between kinds of software. In the US it requires a special license to export, and I doubt it's an different in Japan.

mytrivo
2006-04-22, 17:25
I just watched the first 2 eps and really enjoyed them. I've read the posts from the last couple of days and I'd like to share my thoughts. I'll spoiler them just in case.

About Mutikapa's attacks. They have an altar for Mutikapa, does that mean they leave offerings to her maybe to keep her from hunting? Maybe since she now has a cub the offerings aren't enough and she has to provide extra food for it. With the village nearby she sees that as an easy source. And as to the house she attacked several explanations come to mind. First random choice? Or maybe (since I think it was mentioned it was a young man and his wife and child) she perceived them to be easier targets. And the grandmother cautions the girls to keep quite, maybe the child was crying and drew Mutikapa's attention. Or maybe their home wasn't repaired completely making it easier to get into.

About Aruruu and the cub. I get the impression (and it may be wrong) that she wanders. I base this on the comment in ep 1 that she didn't come back after the earthquake and they had to look for her. Maybe she saw the cub then and went to look for it after she realized Mutikapa was dying.

And about the promise to take care of the cub. It could be she made the promise to the cub itself. In my head I hear, "It's alright little one, I promise I'll take care of you from now on." After all Aruruu doesn't have a mother either so she would sympathize with it's circumstances and many young girls have strong mother instincts that could influence her too.

I think Aruruu sees Hakuoro as a father figure. She said in ep 1 when they gave him her father's clothes, "That's not him." And after Eruruu's visualization of what appeared to be her father that makes me think Aruruu's referring to their father. After he sided with her about the cub, she could have revised her opinion.

And just a random thought to someone's comment about a possible father tiger for the cub being present. Maybe that's Hakuoro's true identity? The opening scenes of ep 1 and his flash back of the teeth and what I take to be a cat's eye point me in that possible direction. But that's just my guess at this point in the series, I could be wrong.

Urzu 7
2006-04-22, 20:03
From the trailer of the series, it looks like there are a lot of interesting characters that will be in this series.

And Eruruu and Aruruu are too cute. I really like their cute lil' ears and tails. :p


I thought it was also really cute when Kokouro stroked Eruruu's tail and she got all perked up, haha.

Daniel E.
2006-04-22, 23:02
Looks like Static-Subs is also going to sub this show. Feel kinda tempted to check their version. :D

kj1980
2006-04-22, 23:33
yeah, the game (which is kind of an RPG with visual novel characteristics - for PC) is in japanese only. There's a PS2 version in the works but also only in japanese.

The game can be ordered through exporters but I'm currently trying to find an exporter that doesn't charge a premium price for it (I'm a bit suspicious of Himeyashop's prices these days).

Bah... every place I tried I ran into that damned "software games are strategic resources and can't be shipped out of the country" bullshit (especially annoying with amazon.co.jp where it was listed at 36% off MSRP). Completely idiotic...

My normal source www.nippon-export.com is overwhelmed with requests at the moment (I should be happy they're so popular) so I ended up ordering it from Himeyashop.

It's practically the same for those small minority group over here in Japan who wishes to play games such as EA Sport's NFL games - they go through a lot of things and US export restrictions to get the game over here. Fortunately, people who wants to play American PS2 games in Japan are a very small majority, so no one really cares. On the other hand, a large portion of people outside of Japan seems to drool over at the games we have here, so you guys have to get stuck with the legal mumbo-jumbos concerning export laws.

So while you have to pay close to retail price for something that I assume the company bought at the clearance sale bin for less than 2000 yen, I can pick those old ero-games if I wanted to at used game shops for 5-for-5000 sales. Added plus, I don't get stuck with extra more in shipping fees either.


From the trailer of the series, it looks like there are a lot of interesting characters that will be in this series.

And Eruruu and Aruruu are too cute. I really like their cute lil' ears and tails. :p


I thought it was also really cute when Kokouro stroked Eruruu's tail and she got all perked up, haha.

x Kokouro
o Hakuoro