View Full Version : German ads?
WindStriker
2004-01-07, 20:43
You know i hate to complain but this is mean. I was at anime suki and se a ad for galatic tales so i click on it out of curiosity. When i get there i click on screenshots and my mouth starts droolin i then read the rest of the site and find out its in german(i think) my hopes were imedeatly distroyed. Just a request if yall have to have ads could they please be in english. :heh:
ChibiDusk
2004-01-07, 20:49
This isn't going to happen...
Mr. Bushido
2004-01-07, 20:50
isnt the forum's and the AS site's server in germany? ( i mean the primary server)
isnt the forum's and the AS site's server in germany? ( i mean the primary server)
Yes. If you don't like ads then just use mirrors (I mean main site) as for forums...there is nothing we can do (except blocking cookies and ads themself :heh: )
Akan, the German ads are funny :D
Lefteris_D
2004-01-08, 04:38
Thread moved to the proper forum.
Shinobu_Maehara
2004-01-08, 04:58
First of all, why do you want to read ads? :hmm:
I have no problem using German, so.....yah..
I've been curious about this ever since I started coming to AnimeSuki... Why are all the ads/pop-ups in German? I find this kind of odd...
Kamui4356
2006-01-29, 22:03
I've been curious about this ever since I started coming to AnimeSuki... Why are all the ads/pop-ups in German? I find this kind of odd...
It's because the servers are in Germany.;)
It's because the servers are in Germany.;)
Aha... Interesting.
Komataguri
2006-01-29, 23:28
which brings up an interesting conundrum.
if the servers are in germany, why is GHD bothered by legal threats from american companies?
The Small One
2006-01-30, 01:55
It's because the servers are in Germany.;)
But just because the servers are here, it doesn't mean, that the ads also have to be.
which brings up an interesting conundrum.
if the servers are in germany, why is GHD bothered by legal threats from american companies?
Hm, maybe because the american companies tend to sue more often, or because most of the visitors are from there (BTW, do we have some sort of statistics on what kind of people come to the site? I think I remember in the beginnig there was a small icon on the mainpage, which leaded to such a statistics).
Or it's just because he want's it. ;)
Komataguri
2006-01-30, 03:37
But just because the servers are here, it doesn't mean, that the ads also have to be.
Hm, maybe because the american companies tend to sue more often, or because most of the visitors are from there (BTW, do we have some sort of statistics on what kind of people come to the site? I think I remember in the beginnig there was a small icon on the mainpage, which leaded to such a statistics).
Or it's just because he want's it. ;)
Yeah, but American law does not extend to other countries.
Yeah, but American law does not extend to other countries.
Unfortunately copyright law isn't restricted to the USA. And they don't even have to
sue to make live miserable -- if they have a valid claim, the could contact just about
anyone involved in sustaining AnimeSuki (server provider, datacenter, upstream provider,
ads provider, domain registrar, etc) to see if they want to cooperate to bring AS down.
(hint: Shinsen-Subs.org (the site of ~) was taken out even though their registrar was German)
Komataguri
2006-01-30, 05:56
Not copyright law, but copyrights are..unless they file internationally, but they can't do that if they don't buy the rights to it?
*shrug* Oh well.
The Small One
2006-01-30, 13:03
Not copyright law, but copyrights are..
It's the other way 'round: Copyrights are international, however the specific laws are restricted to the countries to which they belong.
Unfortunately the laws don't differ much in the western countries anymore.
Unfortunately copyright law isn't restricted to the USA. And they don't even have to
sue to make live miserable -- if they have a valid claim, the could contact just about
anyone involved in sustaining AnimeSuki (server provider, datacenter, upstream provider,
ads provider, domain registrar, etc) to see if they want to cooperate to bring AS down.
(hint: Shinsen-Subs.org (the site of ~) was taken out even though their registrar was German)
Well; i cannot speak for the domain "animesuki.com" but the server won`t be taken down. AnimeSuki only provides links to other sites. Even if you link a dl directly (avi file; which you don`t host yourself), you can`t be sued for copyrights laws. You could only be sued for making the link official... Even if that would be the case; they could only demand to take down the link. Not much more.
And since AnimeSuki doesn`t even link a torrent file any copyright claiming is nonsense. Not to mention, there isn`t a single case in Europe / US which tells that linking a torrent file is illegal.
Not copyright law, but copyrights are..unless they file internationally, but they can't do that if they don't buy the rights to it?
*shrug* Oh well.
That`s another point.. trust me when i say, that the german anime distributions is years behind the US (before you get the wrong idea; that is more because germany isn`t so centered when it comes to business.. or easier to understand; here is not so much profit to gain. Therefore it doesn`t make sense to publish more then the market can handle).
JonJonPoPong
2006-05-17, 16:25
Been usen Animesuki.com as a place to download anime for a few years and it has allways bothered me that the add banners are in German (no I dont plan to click them even if they were english, but others might, you know people who click add banners)????
I mean The Forums are in ENGLISH
The Fansubs are in ENGLISH
So hence is it not safe to say that 99.9% of the people who use this site read english?
So why advertise in German or whatever it is???
What are the odds that some guy who reads english is going to want to get a german cell phone plan????
Maybe if he lives in germany or whatever country .de is for (denmark?).
Why not just advertise in english and get more people clicking add banners hence more money for the site?
This has no doubt been brought up 1000 times before, but it just allways annoyed me, little shit like that does.
NoSanninWa
2006-05-17, 16:58
The server is in Germany.
Yeah, it's been brought up 1000 times before. God I'm bored with that question already. I just don't feel like merging the threads right now. I or someone else will do that later. Just not now.
The Small One
2006-05-17, 18:39
Actually the sheer fact, that the servers are in germany doesn't necessarily mean, that you have to use german ads... after all this is the internet.
But I really wonder, why someone should refrain from using an adblocker in the first place. ;)
NoSanninWa
2006-05-17, 23:40
Actually the sheer fact, that the servers are in germany doesn't necessarily mean, that you have to use german ads... after all this is the internet.
But I really wonder, why someone should refrain from using an adblocker in the first place. ;)
Or a hosts file? ;)
Yup, it doesn't mean that it has to use German ads. It's actually rather weird to me that the nationality of the server controls the language of the advertisements. I'd think that ads in the same language as the webpage that they are displayed on would get more clicks. After all, nobody is likely to click on an ad that they can't read.
Quite nonsensical, but it is what it is.
Actually the sheer fact, that the servers are in germany doesn't necessarily mean, that you have to use german ads... after all this is the internet.
But I really wonder, why someone should refrain from using an adblocker in the first place. ;)
I think it's because... it's more convenient to use companies close to the servers :rolleyes: ... why use english in the banners... would a german company care about a possible client from the other part of the globe :heh: ...
I don't think that if a greater amount of people click the banners it will bring more profit to the company... or will it http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/2660/236mk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
NoSanninWa
2006-05-18, 05:13
You miss the point. On the web physical location is irrelevant. The language that the webpage is written in is much more important for attracting potential customers.
For instance, let's pretend that you live in London. Say that there is a webserver center in London where you can put your ads on a server there. The only catch is that the webpage is in German. How would you feel about putting your English language ads on a German webpage? Do you think that the Germans who visit that page are interested in English advertisements? Do you feel that you are going to get many (English speaking) customers on that German wepage? Or is the convenience of having the server physically located near you sufficient that you don't care what language the webpage is written in?
Considering that most people take out ads through email, without ever actually going to the physical location, I find this ludicrous. Still, that does seem to be the fact. It seems that you are correct about the way it works, and I am wrong. I just don't get it.
NightWish
2006-05-18, 06:12
The Small One is basically right. The server location doesn't effect the language. However, the language and the server location are connected by a common antecedent. The root cause for the language is really quite simple and I dare say obvious when you realise what Mb81 owning the server hardware and being responsible for the ads (sort of) actually means.
Mb81 runs a number of servers, hosting a number of websites; we're just one of many! Those servers are co-located in Germany because, I assume, that is the best location for Mb81 to access the hardware if he needs to. It is not because the people making the ads find it any easier to put them on a German server. In fact, the ads are completely external to his server setup.
AnimeSuki appears to use "falkag.net" to provide the adverts. I believe the same can be said for all the other sites that Mb81 provides hosting for (some of which he actually owns I believe). Many of the other websites are in German. Most of them probably. AnimeManga.de is definitely a site Mb81 owns and obviously German.
I assume Mb81 set the adverts up for those sites and that AnimeSuki (and the forum) were just added to the list to boost the revenue... one more site to produce banner-views. The people actually paying for the adverts (via falkag) are so far removed, from the actual process of displaying the ads, that they probably don't know exactly what language each individual site uses. It is really that simple.
I'm sure, if they knew and/or it mattered to falkag, they could direct English ads to the site. I don't know how their accounts work, so it might be that Mb81 can't simply select different language adverts for each site. It might be that using German on two English sites is the better than English on ten German sites... Only Mb81 really knows and he has no incentive to tell us ;).
Either way, I don't see why the language should matter. It doesn't to me. I'm told the ads are just a necessary... evil. I wouldn't like them more if they were in English, so unless Mb81 feels he wants them in English I'm happy to leave them as-is. No need to get worked up about it ;)
Kaioshin Sama
2006-10-12, 13:13
Been usen Animesuki.com as a place to download anime for a few years and it has allways bothered me that the add banners are in German (no I dont plan to click them even if they were english, but others might, you know people who click add banners)????
I mean The Forums are in ENGLISH
The Fansubs are in ENGLISH
So hence is it not safe to say that 99.9% of the people who use this site read english?
So why advertise in German or whatever it is???
What are the odds that some guy who reads english is going to want to get a german cell phone plan????
Maybe if he lives in germany or whatever country .de is for (denmark?).
Why not just advertise in english and get more people clicking add banners hence more money for the site?
This has no doubt been brought up 1000 times before, but it just allways annoyed me, little shit like that does.
.de as in Deutscheland as in Germany.
Well, since I'm from Germany I don't really have a problem with that. I allways thought it was because I was browsing from an German ISP...
But well, why does it actually mather? Most people don't click ads anyhow? Does everything have to be perfect? The site is great nothelessness... so why pic on little things like this? ^^
Yes it is silly...
If people don't want them they can always use one of the adless AnimeSuki mirrors... like :
http://animesuki.sandwich.net/
http://www.rpguru.com/
http://animesuki.allanime.org/
http://animesuki.rut.org/
Of course if they just use a decent banner/pop-up blocker then that would solve the problem. Some antivirus programs have anti-banner options also (Kaspersky Internet Security/Setting/Protection/Anti-Spy/Anti-Banner (disabled by default), just select that and all banners go puff, a little line space usually remains, but it's barely noticible)
If they just want non-german banners then they can always use...
http://animesuki.mangaitalia.com/ - italian or spanish (can't tell)
Aoie_Emesai
2006-10-16, 08:17
I see no problem.
Yes it is silly...
If people don't want them they can always use one of the adless AnimeSuki mirrors... like :
http://animesuki.sandwich.net/
http://www.rpguru.com/
http://animesuki.allanime.org/
http://animesuki.rut.org/
Of course if they just use a decent banner/pop-up blocker then that would solve the problem. Some antivirus programs have anti-banner options also (Kaspersky Internet Security/Setting/Protection/Anti-Spy/Anti-Banner (disabled by default), just select that and all banners go puff, a little line space usually remains, but it's barely noticible)
I think the main url is good enough. ^_^
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