Episode 66 Discussion Thread [Archive]

Omniscient

2006-01-31, 11:02

Episode 66 Screencaps and Long Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/01/31/bleach-66/)

-Group gets a call telling them to go to museum.
-They wander around the museum maze for a while. It's a combination of Kon's help and Ishida's brains that finally get them out.
-Nova tries to kidnap Ishida, but Ishida uses Ichigo's shinigami license to knock out the mod-soul that's in Nova. However, Claude picks the ball up and returns it to Nova. The three make their escape.
-Ririn honors her deal and returns Inoue and Sado. However, a new game involving their school and classmates is about to begin.

The modified soul aspect is interesting, but it doesn't quite make up for the fact that they spent most of the episode running around a maze, with Ririn laughing evilly every couple of minutes. The whole thing reminds me of like Scooby Doo... Please do not discuss anything past episode 66, or else you risk a ban. Even tags are no defense.

Desti-Fate

2006-01-31, 11:09

When I first saw Kon, I thought he had the potential to be one of the best characters in the series. How wrong I was... they gave him one episode in which he was a developed character with his own desires and then made him a weak joke for the rest of the series.

I doubt he'll be any different in this arc, but it's nice to see him do something. Haven't seen the episode to comment further.

defrule

2006-01-31, 11:19

Oberon

2006-01-31, 13:04

Thewanderer

2006-01-31, 13:10

Guido

2006-01-31, 13:16

I actually like the idea of the three intruders playing psychological and death games upon Ichigo and company.

Oberon

2006-01-31, 13:29

The images are just reversed. Look in the background.

That's not the point of my post. Left side, Ed3 up to episode 65. Right side, Ed3 from episode 66. Notice they changed the actual artwork? Good.

Thewanderer

2006-01-31, 15:41

That's not the point of my post. Left side, Ed3 up to episode 65. Right side, Ed3 from episode 66. Notice they changed the actual artwork? Good.
No I don't, actually...

Oberon

2006-01-31, 16:24

No I don't, actually...

Um, are you yanking my chain? :twitch: You seriously tell me, that when you open up the full scale image and see the side by side comparison, you don't notice that Ichigo on the right side, although in the same pose, has been redrawn in an artstyle more similiar to the usual Bleach art as opposed to the left side (different hair, eyes, chin etc.)? If that is so, I don't know what to say to convince you.

monir

2006-01-31, 16:30

That's not the point of my post. Left side, Ed3 up to episode 65. Right side, Ed3 from episode 66. Notice they changed the actual artwork? Good. Point very well taken even if it's eluding Thewanderer. The animators most likely have figured out the story is a lost cause, so they are directing their energy in improving the ending. Really, the ending is the best feature of the filler arc.

KanaKaishou

2006-01-31, 18:59

The vibe I'm getting is that the extras>episode, for the time being.

Thewanderer

2006-01-31, 19:25

Point very well taken even if it's eluding Thewanderer. The animators most likely have figured out the story is a lost cause, so they are directing their energy in improving the ending. Really, the ending is the best feature of the filler arc.
I'm just not one to pay attention to detail:heh:

Kaka

2006-01-31, 19:50

Interesting sidenote. They changed "Saiyuki"-Ichigo back into "Bleach"-Ichigo.

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8154/bleached3changes8fk.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bleached3changes8fk.jpg)
wow, I didn't even bother looking at the ending....

good thing that they made a change
the previouse one was scary.....

anyway............the filler arc is going quite weird....

maybe I should wait till the whole thing is done before I start watchng the anime agani....

Goldsplinter

2006-01-31, 21:34

"Saiyuki" Ichigo is the longer Face One Right?

Looks cool, it looks like an older version of Ichigo, While the Bleach Ichigo Looks more Anime-Cartoonish, which still looks great ;)

Taylor--

2006-01-31, 23:24

KiNA

2006-01-31, 23:56

Sooo.. as an anime only watcher that havent download the ep.. the best question should be ...

Should I? OR Should I not?

I feel like dejavu :twitch:

stonedzombie

2006-02-01, 00:42

eek.....i feel like i just watched a really crappy detective conan episode......

DrewGSR

2006-02-01, 00:44

Boring... What a useless and pointless episode. Man I WAS looking forward each week for new Bleach but wow, ever since the new arc started its been so weak. I hope they hurry and finish up this useless filler episodes and get back to the Aizen storyline again.

Sirch

2006-02-01, 01:59

Another "time killer hey lets run around and do nothing for 20 minutes episode".. Right now these games seem to be just an excuse to fill up the time of this arc since they dont serve any purpose at all.

Nova is a mod soul so lets assume all 3 are mod souls. How exactly do these mod souls have these powers? Teleportation, illusion control, summoning the "big door"; Kon doesn't have any of these powers. Kinda odd. (yep, i remember that each mod soul gets different powers, but still)

The girl's constant, incisive laugh needs to be toned down a bit. It's not really that funny.

Perhaps they should cut to some scenes where the "villians" are talking to each other to add some depth and character development. Though, that might be a lost cause since this filler seems to be nothing but a fill some time "original story arc".

Kon is the comic relief but i still think hes a great character :D

Thewanderer

2006-02-01, 02:20

The girl's constant, incisive laugh needs to be toned down a bit. It's not really that funny.
It's cute, IMO.

tempest3991

2006-02-01, 02:21

I'm just not one to pay attention to detail:heh:

OH GOD ARE U FULL OF YOURSELF

Sorry, you are always a jacka** and every reply i see that comes from you is telling someone they are retarded or wrong, and u correct them with every little detail. And you always try and argue everything your way. You are the most annoying person on this forum......

This post will be removed no doubt.

Thewanderer

2006-02-01, 02:26

OH GOD ARE U FULL OF YOURSELF

Sorry, you are always a jacka** and every reply i see that comes from you is telling someone they are retarded or wrong, and u correct them with every little detail. And you always try and argue everything your way. You are the most annoying person on this forum......

This post will be removed no doubt.
Woh, dude... I'm sorry. I never meant to do any harm:upset: I'm not trying to "correct them" or anything, just give my opinion on the topic. The last thing I want to do is argue with anyone. I just want to discuss the topic like everyone else here. Again, I'm sorry.

In the post you quoted, I'm just saying that I never pay attention to detail, implying that I was wrong. And I never at all tell someone they are retarded or wrong. If I did, please quote me on it.

tempest3991

2006-02-01, 02:27

Woh, dude... I'm sorry. I never meant to do any harm:upset: I'm not trying to "correct them" or anything, just give my opinion on the topic. The last thing I want to do is argue with anyone. I just want to discuss the topic like everyone else here. Again, I'm sorry.

Than why do u have to be such a jack*** about it and make them look like they are idiots. Everytime someone posts you have to smash them, and you use no comic relief to do it, you just try to be as cold as possible.

Thewanderer

2006-02-01, 02:33

Than why do u have to be such a jack*** about it and make them look like they are idiots. Everytime someone posts you have to smash them, and you use no comic relief to do it, you just try to be as cold as possible.
Cold? Smash them? I thought I was being as nice as anyone could be here. If I have done so, please quote me about it.

Though not in this thread. I don't want to get everyone off-topic... a PM, maybe?

DjTrizz

2006-02-01, 02:53

Than why do u have to be such a jack*** about it and make them look like they are idiots. Everytime someone posts you have to smash them, and you use no comic relief to do it, you just try to be as cold as possible.

alright Captain Hypocrite, come up w/ one thing that Thewanderer has said in this thread that was acting like a "jackass"

anyways, this filler is seeming better than anything Naruto fillers have offered.

NoSanninWa

2006-02-01, 02:56

Could we possibly not compare the shows? All that matters is if it is good or bad, or what could be better about it.

Comparing filler quality does neither show any good and can only serve to irritate Naruto fans for no purpose. Let's just say that you are a bit disappointed with this original story episode, like the Naruto fans are disappointed with their original story episodes. There is plenty of sadness all around.

I'd say that while this arc isn't great, neither is it really bad either. I just have higher standards based on the previous 63 episodes.

DjTrizz

2006-02-01, 03:01

sorry ^^ been doing a lot of compare and contrast work lately for English Comp...it's fun blar...

I'm just really interested in where the story is going, of course we know that atleast Nova is a mod soul and that we can only assume about the other 2 and maybe the other 2 of the 3 new people we see in the ED may be mod souls as well and pulling the strings, but it's only speculation. I don't read anything in advance so there's possibly no truth to my assumption at all ^_^

Sirch

2006-02-01, 03:13

It's cute, IMO.

Sure the character is very cute, but when you want the story to progress and all she does is giggle it gets annoying to me. :frustrated: I mean fight, point out how Ichigo is a moron, taught him, do something! She laughed 24 seperate times in that episode, thats more than 1 per minute.

Also, did Yachiru get a promotion? in the ending skit the vice-cap Nanao introduced her as captain. Soi Fong playing with the black cat was a nice touch too :D

Offtopic: I don't think thewanderer has been rude to anyone. He even apologized if he was and you kept being going. Remove the beam from your own eye before you point out the speck from someone else's. :innocent:

NoSanninWa

2006-02-01, 03:52

Also, did Yachiru get a promotion? in the ending skit the vice-cap Nanao introduced her as captain. Soi Fong playing with the black cat was a nice touch too :D
Not quite. Nanao introduced her as the captain of the Shinigami Women's Society. That was hysterical by the way. And it made perfect sense for Yachiru to be the captain. At least it makes perfect sense if you can remember all the way back to episode 6 where the Society was actually mentioned.

I don't know how many people remember back to episode 6, but when Rukia bought Kon from Uruhara she was originally trying to get Soul Candy. When Ichigo asked her why it was named that, she said that it originally had a different name, but the Shinigami Women's Society decided that name wasn't cute so they changed the name to Soul Candy and put it in cute animal dispensers. Now we know the identity of the person responsible for that decision. Heh. Hee-hee. Kyah. I can just see Yachiru-chan creating the "Chappy the Bunny" Soul Candy dispenser. :D

DjTrizz

2006-02-01, 04:11

Yachiru is too cute for her own good :3

"What game should we play today?" in a enthusiastic voice....just priceless

Sirch

2006-02-01, 04:11

Not quite. Nanao introduced her as the captain of the Shinigami Women's Society. That was hysterical by the way. And it made perfect sense for Yachiru to be the captain. At least it makes perfect sense if you can remember all the way back to episode 6 where the Society was actually mentioned.

I don't know how many people remember back to episode 6, but when Rukia bought Kon from Uruhara she was originally trying to get Soul Candy. When Ichigo asked her why it was named that, she said that it originally had a different name, but the Shinigami Women's Society decided that name wasn't cute so they changed the name to Soul Candy and put it in cute animal dispensers. Now we know the identity of the person responsible for that decision. Heh. Hee-hee. Kyah. I can just see Yachiru-chan creating the "Chappy the Bunny" Soul Candy dispenser. :D

Ah ok, captain of the women's society thing, that makes more sense. I thought since they are 3 captains down they would promote a VC to one of their spots. Yachiru would never accept a promotion to a squad captain though, she would probably have to be away from ken-chan for extended periods of time.

hoon

2006-02-01, 04:16

I actually liked this episode. I had zero expectation for the filler arc (and a little scared, too) but the storyline is pretty decent and the animation is still pretty good. If you expected another topnotch, Soul Society arc from the filler arc, you were asking to be disappointed.

asam_laksa

2006-02-01, 06:25

I actually liked this episode 66 better than episode 65. Ishida really outshine Ichigo here by showing that brains are more important than brawns and brute power. Now I am looking forward to more Bleach fillers, more of Ishida's talents (other than Quincy talents like sewing, lock picking etc).

And yeah I like the skit Shinigami Cup episode 66. Seeing each doing their things (ESPECIALLY SOI FONG PLAYING BLACK CAT STUFF TOY) before their captain comes, really makes me laugh. Anyone for YoruichixSoiFon??

ps: renji and ichigo really make a better husband-wife team than ichigoxrukia. i am a converted fan of ichiren pairing.

kagato3

2006-02-01, 06:32

Not a bad ep. Better then the last one. The running didn't seem as pointless as last time. I do hope we find out what the 3 are after next ep as they realy don't seem like bad guys.

Nova is a mod soul so lets assume all 3 are mod souls. How exactly do these mod souls have these powers? Teleportation, illusion control, summoning the "big door"; Kon doesn't have any of these powers. Kinda odd. (yep, i remember that each mod soul gets different powers, but still)

Kon's powers are all in his legs, ie running, jumping, kicking. These 3 also should have been active a lot longer then Kon, as all the mod souls were to be destroyed a long time ago, possably before Urahara left SS. These 3 would have to be ones that escaped and have been on the run ever since, if so then they are bound to have picked up a few tricks.

Not quite. Nanao introduced her as the captain of the Shinigami Women's Society. That was hysterical by the way. And it made perfect sense for Yachiru to be the captain. At least it makes perfect sense if you can remember all the way back to episode 6 where the Society was actually mentioned.

I don't know how many people remember back to episode 6, but when Rukia bought Kon from Uruhara she was originally trying to get Soul Candy. When Ichigo asked her why it was named that, she said that it originally had a different name, but the Shinigami Women's Society decided that name wasn't cute so they changed the name to Soul Candy and put it in cute animal dispensers. Now we know the identity of the person responsible for that decision. Heh. Hee-hee. Kyah. I can just see Yachiru-chan creating the "Chappy the Bunny" Soul Candy dispenser. :D

I've been hopeiing to see the SWS since i found the colorful bleach and omake stories with them. I loved Soi Fong's Yoruichi doll.

NoSanninWa

2006-02-01, 07:17

And yeah I like the skit Shinigami Cup episode 66. Seeing each doing their things (ESPECIALLY SOI FONG PLAYING BLACK CAT STUFF TOY) before their captain comes, really makes me laugh. Anyone for YoruichixSoiFon??
Did anyone else notice that looked like the cat from Trigun?

I've been hopeiing to see the SWS since i found the colorful bleach and omake stories with them. I loved Soi Fong's Yoruichi doll.I don't remember the SWS from the manga omake. Was that omake not scanlated? Or are you referring to something else?

Miacis

2006-02-01, 07:26

I rather liked episode 66. Much better than 65 IMO. Although I can't help but feel gipped when I think that the whole maze puzzle was just 15 minutes of covering up for quality script writing. Although having something to think about was better than 'Run from phonebooth to ramen cart to museum to library to karaoke booth to DMV.' (It's pretty obvious Kubo Tite isn't writing these episodes.)

I just hope this next 'game' actually tells us something as to what these 3 jokers want out of Ichigo & co. rather than what I expect it to be. (From the trailer for 67, I expect everyone to mysteriously be 'illusioned' and start fighting with each other and towards the end some revelation is pulled out of the respective ass of the smartest person in the group. From the trailer I expect that to be Ukitake or Ishida.)

I didn't quite understand how that one t-shirt ninja guy got his little spirit gumball back in his faux body. And I wish they expanded a bit on Ishida's quincy powers. A simple soliloquy would've been fine. I hope they don't go through this entire filler arc without bringing that up. :(

Lastly, I foresee a new Bleach fan product. Kon plushie backpacks. They'll sell like hotcakes. :heh:

Last_Hope

2006-02-01, 07:29

So far I´m pleased with the original story episodes. I found this episode to be really funny (Kon is so freakin´ awesome. :D) and plotwise alright.

NoSanninWa//
:heh: It´s as you say. It makes perfect sense for Yachiru to be the captain. :D

radzor

2006-02-01, 07:56

This isnt half as bad as I thought it would be. But as some ppl are saying its quite easy noticing that it aint the real author writing this stuff.
It has nothing compared to the previous Bleach epsiodes but still its an ok filler.

Thewanderer

2006-02-01, 08:53

I don't know how many people remember back to episode 6, but when Rukia bought Kon from Uruhara she was originally trying to get Soul Candy. When Ichigo asked her why it was named that, she said that it originally had a different name, but the Shinigami Women's Society decided that name wasn't cute so they changed the name to Soul Candy and put it in cute animal dispensers. Now we know the identity of the person responsible for that decision. Heh. Hee-hee. Kyah. I can just see Yachiru-chan creating the "Chappy the Bunny" Soul Candy dispenser. :D
Quoted for cool(though obscure) video game reference (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Deadbrain80/Anime/73c37328.jpg).
And yeah I like the skit Shinigami Cup episode 66. Seeing each doing their things (ESPECIALLY SOI FONG PLAYING BLACK CAT STUFF TOY) before their captain comes, really makes me laugh. Anyone for YoruichixSoiFon??
My personal favorite part of the entire episode.

Vicke

2006-02-01, 10:05

Nova is a mod soul so lets assume all 3 are mod souls.
Wonder if they have any relation to the 3 dolls in the ending. Like the bird doll is the chick, bunny doll is the mask dude and turtle doll is the guy in hat

asam_laksa

2006-02-01, 10:42

There is one thing that I don't understand.

Yoruichi wasn't around when Ichigo fought with Captain Byakuya. How does Urahara knows about hollow Ichigo breaking out during Ichigo's Zengetsu Getsuga?

It's beyond my imagination and logic as to how Urahara knows about Ichigo's inner hollow.

Last_Hope

2006-02-01, 10:55

kagato3

2006-02-01, 11:20

I don't remember the SWS from the manga omake. Was that omake not scanlated? Or are you referring to something else?

I belive it has been scanlated. I remember findind it with a few of the colorful Bleach stories. I think it was called Shinigami Woman Association.

Wonder if they have any relation to the 3 dolls in the ending. Like the bird doll is the chick, bunny doll is the mask dude and turtle doll is the guy in hat
Oh I'm almost positive the 3 dolls are the 3 mod souls, I think it goes Bird = Rin Rin, Bunny Thing = Cloud(top hat guy, it even has his tie), Turtle = Nova (both have that big x on their back)

There is one thing that I don't understand.

Yoruichi wasn't around when Ichigo fought with Captain Byakuya. How does Urahara knows about hollow Ichigo breaking out during Ichigo's Zengetsu Getsuga?

It's beyond my imagination and logic as to how Urahara knows about Ichigo's inner hollow

Yoruichi knows about the mask that keeps comeing back so it's a good bet Urahara does too. Given his back ground he likely knows what it means too, but I don't think Urahara was refering to the hollow but that a full power Ichigo would cause more damage just by being full power then the villians are.

Green²

2006-02-01, 11:23

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1469/snapshot20060201110623b9lm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
"Oh, so big."

Ok, now that's sick. They should've just stuck with the cat... but that, that's just sick.

asam_laksa

2006-02-01, 11:30

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1469/snapshot20060201110623b9lm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
"Oh, so big."

Ok, now that's sick. They should've just stuck with the cat... but that, that's just sick.

I think it was cute...seeing something big coming out from Kon's small body.

asam_laksa

2006-02-01, 11:48

Yoruichi knows about the mask that keeps comeing back so it's a good bet Urahara does too. Given his back ground he likely knows what it means too, but I don't think Urahara was refering to the hollow but that a full power Ichigo would cause more damage just by being full power then the villians are.

That can be the other way of interpretating it.

Ichigo: If that's the case, Zengetsu's Getsuge Tenshou would damage it right?
Urahara:: It would be in theory but can you hold yourself back while in that form? {Urahara mentioned Kurosaki's name here)
Ichigo:: *looked hesitated*
Renji: It's powerful enough to stand against Captain Kuchki's Sakura. Even if you defeat the enemy, the casualties would be too great.
Ichigo:: What about you? You can go into Bankai and attack with kidou techniques, right?
Ichigo didn't know really understand that the bankai could affect and destruct the surroundings. If he knew, he wouldn't suggest Renji to go bankai also on the enemies.

monir

2006-02-01, 11:56

Sooo.. as an anime only watcher that havent download the ep.. the best question should be ...

Should I? OR Should I not?

I feel like dejavu :twitch:Kina, you have to witness the horror of Ishida's new improvement on Kon by giving him a zipper on his belly. Few moments later it is revealed why the zipper is there. Ishida wanted to store some of his sewing kits and other large objects in Kon i.e look at the pic above posted by Green^2 for reference.:heh: Unfortunately, Kon's stuffing also comes out when the zipper is opened. Oh, the horror!

With all its fault with the original arc, it still has managed to provide good laughs now and then. Renji was the funny one in the last couple of episode. In this episode it was Kon and Ishida. Now only if the Bwahaha guy can be involved somehow.

My personal favorite part of the entire episode.And not to mention Nemu was hot!

http://i1.tinypic.com/n1a5no.jpg

asam_laksa

2006-02-01, 12:03

Don't you think Nemu looks similar to Hinata Hyuuga??

I always like Hinata Hyuuga anyway.

Green²

2006-02-01, 12:12

I think it was cute...seeing something big coming out from Kon's small body.
Big. And now, more rigid for the ladies. ... or for Ichigo in this case.

KiNA

2006-02-01, 12:12

And not to mention Nemu was hot!

http://i1.tinypic.com/n1a5no.jpg
Thats it.. I'm downloading :D

Thanks monir :heh:

Ultimoo

2006-02-01, 12:34

Argh! I just wanna know what that gate thing is all about!

Overall I'm startin to like this story, but it needs more Kon, Only he can stop the mod-souls, or something like that!

monir

2006-02-01, 12:35

Don't you think Nemu looks similar to Hinata Hyuuga??

Yeah, they are both insanely cute in their own way even if Nemu has the better hairdo between the two.

mullinsmcd

2006-02-01, 12:44

GREAT episode! Leave it to Kubo (or at least his staff) to come with with the most interesting anime filler ever! Last weeks episode sort of hinted to me that we were going into a filler arc and sure enough when i checked the forums i was right. But after today's insight I honestly wouldnt mind numerous fillers with these sort of twists and turns.

And yeah, I totally agree about the stuffed toys in the ending. The 3 mod souls will def be occupying them.

But speaking of the ending, we still have 3 unreferenced characters from the ending. If the fillers will end at ep 69 I wonder what role they will play, or maybe we have one more arc along the way.

monir

2006-02-01, 12:56

KiNA

2006-02-01, 13:09

I think the 3 mod souls aren't the real villains, rather, those other 3 faces shown in the ending fits the bill. The guy who is shown last looks quite mean and villainy. At the same time, that cute little girl is urgently asking for some spanking for her incessant giggles.
I'll do it !!! I'll do it!!!! Where do I sign up? :naughty:

:heh:

DjTrizz

2006-02-01, 13:17

I actually liked this episode 66 better than episode 65. Ishida really outshine Ichigo here by showing that brains are more important than brawns and brute power.

I wouldn't really say it was brains over brawn, just that Ishida calmed down and tried to figure it out. He even said himself that he got lucky because of Ichigo and Renji splitting up.

Komataguri

2006-02-01, 13:48

This was a great episode, I like how they were totally playing mindgames on the trio until Ishida figured out the secret.

I wasn't expecting the mod soul aspect either, interesting twist....afterall, We remember the rampage Kon went on in Ichigo's body until he was caught, and made Rukia's little unwilling pet? XD

Also, Shinigami Womens Society FTW!

Rand

2006-02-01, 16:52

Won't comment on the episode itself, it's been done already
But I have to say that those shinigami women were really hot !
Am I the only one who finds Isane really really cute ?

Thewanderer

2006-02-01, 17:29

Don't you think Nemu looks similar to Hinata Hyuuga??

I always like Hinata Hyuuga anyway.
Wow, you're right... cool:p
Am I the only one who finds Isane really really cute ?
Nope. My favorite part of ep63 was at the end:heh:

tabun

2006-02-01, 19:13

At the same time, that cute little girl is urgently asking for some spanking for her incessant giggles.

A spanking indeed.

The filler arc is vastly more interesting than any that the Naruto-team has come up with by far, yet, the only thing that makes me detest it is the giggling girl.

Honestly, if she doesn't get a good spanking in the end (Make her cry, dammit. Make her beg for forgiveness), I will be a very sad panda. Her giggles drive me mad. If I had been inside that museum, the place would propably be razed by now.

This is why i liked the short moment of unflawed anger and dissappointment in her face as Ishida finds out about their little "secret". I can't stop watching the scene, it's so... satisfying. Am I a mean man?

Komataguri

2006-02-01, 19:45

A spanking indeed.

The filler arc is vastly more interesting than any that the Naruto-team has come up with by far, yet, the only thing that makes me detest it is the giggling girl.

Honestly, if she doesn't get a good spanking in the end (Make her cry, dammit. Make her beg for forgiveness), I will be a very sad panda. Her giggles drive me mad. If I had been inside that museum, the place would propably be razed by now.

This is why i liked the short moment of unflawed anger and dissappointment in her face as Ishida finds out about their little "secret". I can't stop watching the scene, it's so... satisfying. Am I a mean man?

I think we have some sadomasochistic bondage and domination people here.

Zek

2006-02-01, 21:26

Komataguri

2006-02-01, 21:29

The best part of this episode was when Rinrin finally shut up. That giggling is beyond irritating. She's a kid, we get it, get on with the story.

That said, it was marginally better than the last episode. The pacing was awful though, they could easily have shaved 5 minutes from the maze. I guess it accomplishes its purpose as filler...

And if it were based on manga you would be sitting here going " OMG THAT MAZE WAS AWESOME I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT IT WAS SO SUSPENSEFUL ZOMG KUBO TITE IS MY GOD "

Kaka

2006-02-01, 22:16

The best part of this episode was when Rinrin finally shut up. That giggling is beyond irritating. She's a kid, we get it, get on with the story.

That said, it was marginally better than the last episode. The pacing was awful though, they could easily have shaved 5 minutes from the maze. I guess it accomplishes its purpose as filler...
or a tape for her mouth would help

she's too annoying

asam_laksa

2006-02-01, 22:24

I wouldn't really say it was brains over brawn, just that Ishida calmed down and tried to figure it out. He even said himself that he got lucky because of Ichigo and Renji splitting up.

You don't like Ishida-kun, do you?? Besides.....Ishida was the only one who make right deduction about them being the mod souls.

Guido

2006-02-01, 23:18

This filler arc starts to amazing with how the staff is making wonders with the music.

My favorite soundtrack piece was the BGM song played within the maze. It had the Psycho + Friday 13th vibe into it; jittery, build up of terror.

Ishida is whom I most recognized for this episode whose characters traits were the most fleshed out as being the strategist and problem solver for the group.

Don't take it personally, but both Ichigo and Abarai behave like five-year old kiddies or just are flatly stupid.

I don't understand why in many shounen anime they always introduce male protagonists who happen to be that highly stubborn and childish, as being jerks enough to being played by the foes' rules; I'm just getting fed up to watch characters like those.

In summary, the rooms were connected to the same entraces/exits via warp. The reiatsu of the three intruders, whenever they were moving the loops so as the traps could fit into the third room in either horizontal or vertical directions, became distinguishable by Ishida.
The trick was the trap rooms since there were no traps at all due to illusion.

I'm enjoying the modus operandi of these foes resorting on playing mind games and straining our heroes with psychic illusions as to wear them through despair and impatience to weaken them, as opposed to the SS arc with all the excessive reiatsu build up and unleashing of apocalyptic super powers.
These enemies remind me to the psychics of YuYu Hakusho from the Chapter Black saga utilizing reminiscent methods like Ririn, Cloud, and Nova do.

Since Ishida discovered that their mysterious guests are mod souls, I want you to recall on something.

Way back to either episodes six and seven when Kon was very first introduced.

Kon explained that it was the last and only survivor from a batch of mod souls that Soul Society ordered to dispose as their creation was decided to be unethically unnatural.

Since our three guests were found out to be mod souls, one could speculate:

1. Either our fellow intruders came from the same batch like Kon did and also found a way to escape undetected from SS.

2. Or came from a previous batch of mod souls unlike Kon designed with different capacities.

For example, Kon inside a real human body is able to exert hand-to-hand, melee combat whereas the mysterious three are more inclined to pscyhic illusions.

Komataguri

2006-02-01, 23:38

the protaganist is childish and stubborn because most men are childish and stubborn.

as for kon, I would say its more foot to hand, than hand to hand...since kon's strengthend for kicking and other leg related actions :p

Novarain

2006-02-02, 00:30

Honestly the part i liked best about this episode is the Shinigami's Cup...

Wahaha Yachiru is a CAPTAIN!!!!!!!!

SuperKnuckles

2006-02-02, 01:21

I thought the episode was pretty fun. I don't care what anybody says. Ishida getting some respect for once is pretty cool.

Though I'm sorta disappointed at the thought that the new enemies could simply be modified souls.

IcExAlcHeMy

2006-02-02, 01:47

they so totally abused kons body in this episode.

tabun

2006-02-02, 02:25

2. Or came from a previous batch of mod souls unlike Kon designed with different capacities.
This might very well be, as this might provide us with some reasoning for why they are conducting this "game" shizzle: because Kon is neither bad nor good, or has any inclination to be either, I would wager the 3 "new" mod souls aren't, either.

I'd make a guess and say the guy at the end of the outro gave them their bodies and now utilizes them, perhaps appearing to them as a great benefactor. I will look for it myself, but wasn't it that Kon using Ichigo's body put it under huge physical strain? Then the 3 fake bodies used by the 3 mod souls would have to be some very proficient novelty, as even Urahara and Renji do not have access to such... unlimiting bodies in this world. Oh well, the possibilities of speculation :heh:

SinZOfAllSinZ

2006-02-02, 02:43

I hate that Damn laugh of Rin-Rin's!!!,But it was interesting how ishida found out that they are mod souls.

Eclipze

2006-02-02, 02:49

Good episode. Much MUCH better than episode 65. Animation-wise, no complains.

The only thing is, while Rin looks cute in the ED, all the shading/positioning makes her look....bad, in the anime itself. And the somewhat irritating laughter isnt helping much at all...

Overall 7/10.:)

KiNA

2006-02-02, 03:13

ritalman

2006-02-02, 03:29

Argh I miss Kon in Ichigo's body. I wonder why they don't use him more often.

Kon in the lion plush annoys me to no extend...

The Small One

2006-02-02, 07:05

Kon explained that it was the last and only survivor from a batch of mod souls that Soul Society ordered to dispose as their creation was decided to be unethically unnatural.
Hm, if Kon was the only survivor of Soul Society's mod souls, wouldn't that imply, that our new "friends" were created by some other party, than Soul Society, maybe as a reply to SS's project?

Yûyake

2006-02-02, 10:20

eeehh.. I dont get it...

The ninja got busted.. then the hat guy carry him out .. and next thing you know, the ninja stand beside the girl above the gate.. the hat guy nowhere to be seen.. and the ninja even have both zanpatou :twitch:
Well as soon as the guy with the hat is next to the "ninja guy" , you see that the hat boy hold another pills in is hand, so he probably just put it back to the ninja guy body and the guy stand up again.

KiNA

2006-02-02, 11:58

So you mean 2 pills for the same ninja guy :twitch: .. because he certainly a bit far away from where the original pill drop >.>

btw, wonder if Kon keep his upgrade after this arc :heh:.. it could proves ... usefull :heh:

monir

2006-02-02, 11:59

And if it were based on manga you would be sitting here going " OMG THAT MAZE WAS AWESOME I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT IT WAS SO SUSPENSEFUL ZOMG KUBO TITE IS MY GOD " Really, Kubo's writing or not, people can figure out by themselves (including Zek believe it or not! :D) what's a good watch and what's not. Kubo is the god because he didn't come up with stories like this which is why Bleach is so popular. If you haven't noticed already, most poeple in the thread are talking about the last 2 minutes of the episode which begins with the ending theme, the most enjoyable part of the episode.

A spanking indeed.

The filler arc is vastly more interesting than any that the Naruto-team has come up with by far, yet, the only thing that makes me detest it is the giggling girl.

Honestly, if she doesn't get a good spanking in the end (Make her cry, dammit. Make her beg for forgiveness), I will be a very sad panda. Her giggles drive me mad. If I had been inside that museum, the place would propably be razed by now.

This is why i liked the short moment of unflawed anger and dissappointment in her face as Ishida finds out about their little "secret". I can't stop watching the scene, it's so... satisfying. Am I a mean man?:heh:

The little girl is mean. You are not!

So you mean 2 pills for the same ninja guy :twitch: .. because he certainly a bit far away from where the original pill drop >.>
I'm so confused, so here is some pwning Gundam...

http://i1.tinypic.com/n2iq39.gif

:heh:

Red_Eclipse

2006-02-02, 15:17

Now I get the three stuffed animals for the ending theme.. Kon has friends now! XD

The Small One

2006-02-02, 15:26

So you mean 2 pills for the same ninja guy :twitch: .. because he certainly a bit far away from where the original pill drop >.>

No, it was the same pill... the guy jumped down to the place where the pill was, took it and later they grabbed the body.

Guido

2006-02-02, 15:48

In the Shinigami Cup mini-episode, Golden, why isn't that Captain Unohana is not a member of the Female Shinigami Association?

NoSanninWa

2006-02-02, 17:31

Hm, if Kon was the only survivor of Soul Society's mod souls, wouldn't that imply, that our new "friends" were created by some other party, than Soul Society, maybe as a reply to SS's project?
Just because Kon said that he was the only survivor doesn't mean that he was correct. Honestly he isn't the most reliable source in the world. And if you think about it, how much awareness of the world does a little pill have. He wouldn't even know about the fate of a different batch of pills even if he could perceive his own batch of pills.

Personally, I think it likely that these three were put into action before the order came to scrap Project Spearhead. Then these three escaped before they could be killed. Kon wouldn't know a thing about that, so his "intelligence" is likely to be flawed. (Pun intended.)

In the Shinigami Cup mini-episode, Golden, why isn't that Captain Unohana is not a member of the Female Shinigami Association?
Perhaps Unohana thinks the Shinigami Women's Association is silly.

defrule

2006-02-02, 17:42

They sud get the pills for these new characters and put them in dolls like kon. That'll show them not to play hide and seek.

shikamarufoo

2006-02-02, 18:40

W0w just watched the episode and it seemed ok...
I liked the idea of the maze, not how they solved it though, and also I liked how Ishida found out that guy is a modified soul. Animation wasn't as bad as before, but I hate the three people they have chosen to be the bad guys. The little girl doesn't fit her voice 100%, and the other 2 people look weird! The plot though seems to be getting better, at least for a filler.
Overall 7.5/10

Ziv

2006-02-02, 18:53

Not quite. Nanao introduced her as the captain of the Shinigami Women's Society. That was hysterical by the way. And it made perfect sense for Yachiru to be the captain. At least it makes perfect sense if you can remember all the way back to episode 6 where the Society was actually mentioned.

I don't know how many people remember back to episode 6, but when Rukia bought Kon from Uruhara she was originally trying to get Soul Candy. When Ichigo asked her why it was named that, she said that it originally had a different name, but the Shinigami Women's Society decided that name wasn't cute so they changed the name to Soul Candy and put it in cute animal dispensers. Now we know the identity of the person responsible for that decision. Heh. Hee-hee. Kyah. I can just see Yachiru-chan creating the "Chappy the Bunny" Soul Candy dispenser. :D
wikipedia says she's the president of the Shinigami Women's Association which I think is a more appropriate term

Ziv

2006-02-02, 19:00

I think the 3 mod souls aren't the real villains, rather, those other 3 faces shown in the ending fits the bill. The guy who is shown last looks quite mean and villainy. At the same time, that cute little girl is urgently asking for some spanking for her incessant giggles.
that mean dude reminds me of the evil leader of the hollows that ordered hollows to eat inoue's brother near the start of the series, but hasn't been shown since.

agh x_x sorry for the double post.

Jingjong

2006-02-02, 19:05

Yeah, the word on Yachiru's little name plaque is Kaicho, which is like president of a club, not taicho like the Captains.

DB's translation was a little confusing.

Goldsplinter

2006-02-02, 21:50

Next Episode... Who Stole Ichigo's Cookie!

wingdarkness

2006-02-03, 01:05

Haven't read the thread yet, so I'll just let it rip...

Thought this episode was good, really interesting with many comical moments (Kon was great this episode xD...Ishida turned him into a pouch :p )...I'm still intrigued and my interest is still piqued by what is going on...Any complaints about last week's animation quality was put to rest with this episode aswell...The CG used in the doorway parts was especially nice...

For whatever reasons I like episodes where you have to figure out how to get out of a maze or trap...The episode wasn't boring in the least and proves you don't have to have 2 guys whaling swords for an ep to be worth watching...This ep served the purpose of getting Ishida, Renji, and Ichigo face-time as a team-trio and Ishida played a good medium to the testosterone-pumping numskulls Ichi x Renji...Still trying to figure out why Nova had a false body and how that little annoying brat (yeah she's starting to annoy me with that laff :p ) uses illusion powers (Does she just manipulate Reisutga?)...Also I wouldn't trust Chad and Inoue just yet...It can't be that easy...

Anyways just another ep setting up the arc....it's only ep 3 and I'm motivated by the evil-characters I see in the end theme and by the villians Cloud and Nova (who i know our heroes will have to throw-down with soon)...So relax and treat BLEACH like an anime that just started...you'll have to give this arc about 10 eps to truley judge...

The only thing that dissapointed me a bit was the Shinigami cup[Golden]...I didn't really get it nor did I laff at it...seemed kinda "meh" :o ... But I finally figured out the end theme this week and those goofy characters seem to be some stuffed-animal friends for Kon (Ishida is too good at this, he's approaching Martha Steward status in sewing and that can't be good :p )...I still think the end theme is too wacky for me and i don't like it that much, but I have a new respect for those dancing dolls...

Lordfujin

2006-02-03, 01:24

These fillers are great to me, the mind games keep me interested because i try to figure them out myself, and the music seems to be going good with the episodes.
Hmm... Also seems like something somewhat useful will be coming out of this filler arc. Maybe there will be something along the lines of The adventures of Kon, Rin rin, Cloud, and Nova instead of the Shinigami cup... Golden???

Wolcik

2006-02-03, 15:07

those episodes are good, maybe animation is down sometimes, but we had this too while normal arc, and I like the way that Rin Rin is smiling
so after this mode soul arc we will have Kon +3 more crazy stuffed animals as probably they won't keep their bodies

Juan Valdez

2006-02-03, 19:44

Oh my god! It's the House of Leaves!

defrule

2006-02-03, 19:54

wikipedia says she's the president of the Shinigami Women's Association which I think is a more appropriate term

Wikipedia has info on Bleach too? What will they not put on that site i wonder.

Komataguri

2006-02-03, 20:28

Wikipedia has info on Bleach too? What will they not put on that site i wonder.

Yeah, they do, was editing some bad Hollow information just a few days ago.

porchoky

2006-02-03, 20:32

I liked this episode. It was about time that girl stoped with her annoying laugh and got owned, if only for a few seconds.

Nakigoe

2006-02-03, 20:35

you know, for villains they sure have some boring games

the-1

2006-02-03, 22:00

just watched it. kinda lame that the villians just let em go like that. whats the point?

Komataguri

2006-02-03, 22:41

just watched it. kinda lame that the villians just let em go like that. whats the point?

All will be revealed in time..

Lordfujin

2006-02-03, 22:47

All will be revealed in time..

With no point to it!:mad:
Fortunatly the filler is entertaining to me:D

Thewanderer

2006-02-03, 22:50

With no point to it!:mad:
Oh! A psychic!!!

Wakoeme

2006-02-04, 01:47

ok heres a random thought, so im watching the ending like for the 5time today. and a thought hits me. since theres 3 plushies in the ending (excluding Kon) and since we found out that those ppl are false souls (well i think all 3 are) and since kon is a false soul in a plushie, isnt it possible that each one of the plushies are one of those ppl?

wingdarkness

2006-02-04, 01:51

^Lmao...did you not read the last page? Like 3 people have said that...and the endtheme kinda proves it... The only question left is did Ishida make those plushies?? :eek:

Wakoeme

2006-02-04, 02:06

meh, im to lazy to read -_- and i dont think ishida made them.... his plushies tend to be... well girly o.O remember what happened to poor Kon.

wingdarkness

2006-02-04, 02:16

Hey after seeing what he did to Kon (turning him into a plush-pack) I think he can do anything when it comes to thread and twine...And who says those plushies aren't feminine...they all look pretty girly to me...I mean not to many guys buy plushies (except obsessed otuka's ofcourse ¬_¬ )...

goatcrapp

2006-02-04, 02:33

anyone else notice some of the voice actors are different? (or at least sound different in this ep?)

Komataguri

2006-02-04, 10:12

Goldsplinter

2006-02-04, 11:58

^Lmao...did you not read the last page? Like 3 people have said that...and the endtheme kinda proves it... The only question left is did Ishida make those plushies?? :eek:

OHhhhhhhh....

Jaden

2006-02-04, 14:29

So last week was Die Hard and this time Cube...wonder which movie gets ripped off next?

hitokirigirl

2006-02-04, 15:38

Heck, did they switch animation team with Naruto ??

eps 65 and 66 had really bad animation, whereas Naruto's last ones were pretty good !!

wingdarkness

2006-02-04, 19:01

Heck, did they switch animation team with Naruto ??

eps 65 and 66 had really bad animation, whereas Naruto's last ones were pretty good !!

Are you in bizzarro-world? The animation in ep 170 of Naruto is terrible (go read that thread) and the animation in ep BLEACH 66 was much better than the animation in ep 65 that got alot of complaints (It even had some really good CG sequences)...

hitokirigirl

2006-02-05, 08:02

Are you in bizzarro-world? The animation in ep 170 of Naruto is terrible (go read that thread) and the animation in ep BLEACH 66 was much better than the animation in ep 65 that got alot of complaints (It even had some really good CG sequences)...

Hmm compared to the ramen episode, I found it quite ok...
Anyway, It's the first time I've seen Bleach so badly animated :mad:
I hope it will get better...

wingdarkness

2006-02-05, 08:10

^Maybe you didn't notice but many eps during SS were at the same level of the animation in ep 66...A few were a little worse (but it ain't nothing I was really caring about)...

immortal cow

2006-02-06, 15:42

What are with all of the stupid fillers now? That girl with the laughing giggling voice is really annoying.

NoSanninWa

2006-02-06, 17:59

What are with all of the stupid fillers now?Read this thread and you'll have the answer. You're about the 3rd person to ask that in this thread, plus lot of people have asked in other threads. There is also an entire thread dedicated to the answer: So, we are in an "original story" arc now. Read it.

That girl with the laughing giggling voice is really annoying.You're about the 50th person to point this out. Thank you for the brilliant insight.