Air's real world setting - Kami (Kasumi) Japan

[Shiroth]

I remember a while ago, i was looking at a Japanese site that had the real life locations that were used in the Air.. and then the anime version nexted to it - and i believe the link was somewhere in the Air section.

I was just wondering if anyone would know of that link? ^^;

[xris]

Perhaps some of the following are what you are thinking of. Taken from the thread Bunch of archived threads cached by Google (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=26474) by justsomeguy. The cached links no longer seem to work but at least some of the content was recovered.

Air's real world setting - Kami (Kasumi) Japan
Neaco
2005-08-29, 00:08
Very cool, from this http://htc.moon.st/ota/05041601.html someone posted, I went and looked up the location and found it! Story may be fictional but having a real setting I think kinda ties it into our world a bit more :)

Kasumi (香住町; -cho) was a town located in Kinosaki District, Hyogo, Japan. On April 1, 2005 the town merged with two towns from Mikata District forming the town of Kami and no longer exists as an independent municipality. The portion of Kami that was Kasumi is now informally known as Kasumi-ku.

Population 13,500 :)

More pictures:
http://blog.yam.com/riceking/archives/460869.html
http://blog.yam.com/riceking/archives/462539.html
http://www.cable-net.ne.jp/user/ok111888/tokubetu/air_tanbou.html
http://apple3.cool.ne.jp/kinki/hyogo/amarube.htm

http://blog.yam.com/riceking/66e9f399.jpg

http://www.cable-net.ne.jp/user/ok111888/tokubetu/air_tanbou.15.jpg

http://www.ricerice.net/ACG/AIR-Kasumi/AIR-Kasumi-051.JPG

http://www.ricerice.net/ACG/AIR-Kasumi/AIR-Kasumi-070.JPG

http://www.cable-net.ne.jp/user/ok111888/tokubetu/air_tanbou.33.jpg

Google Maps
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%E9%A6%99%E7%BE%8E%E7%94%BA&ll=35.641045,134.623976&spn=0.031211,0.059524&hl=en
TougeSil80
2005-09-01, 21:51
Wow, that's pretty cool, beautiful place.
MindOnAir
2005-10-07, 01:20
Nice that's hella cool
milkmandan
2005-10-07, 16:01
that is pretty sweet..

kinda not surprised though... mostly any place you see in an anime reflects SOME place SOMEWHERE. or where did the creator get the idea? :)
Richard 23
2005-10-17, 12:06
Thanks for the info and images!

In addition to the original page, AIR: Hyogo prefecture Kami Cho & the Kyoto prefecture Maizuru city compilation (http://htc.moon.st/ota/05041601.html) (English (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fhtc.moon.st%2fota%2f05041601.ht ml)), also check out AIR: Japanese ode Yamagata Mihama Cho compilation (http://htc.moon.st/ota/05022701.html) (English (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fhtc.moon.st%2fota%2f05022701.ht ml)).

This one is a little sad:

http://htc.moon.st/p/2005022709.jpg

The track is broken....

http://htc.moon.st/p/2005022708.jpg

The whole Hi-Tech Carrot (http://htc.moon.st/) site (English (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fhtc.moon.st%2f)), at least the travelogue section, The Japanese Highway (http://htc.moon.st/ota/index.html) (English (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fhtc.moon.st%2fota%2findex.html) ) is pretty interesting. Click through this section to see some intriguing distant scenery. It shows other real world settings, some for other anime as well.

Mentioned in another thread also was this page: The 1000th summer (http://tarax.flop.jp/alive/log/000660.html) (English (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftarax.flop.jp%2Falive%2Flog%2F000 660.html)).


I also came across a similar page for Kanon: Kanon in Moriguchi Osaka (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/chibiusa/rini/kanon/) (English (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ne.jp%2Fasahi%2Fchibiusa%2Fri ni%2Fkanon%2F)).

It's cool to find that these magical places exist.
takeshi88
2005-10-20, 13:08
ah cool! The vending machine in the 2nd pic, is that where misuzu was "supposed" to buy the concentrated peach juice for yukito? ;)
Richard 23
2005-10-20, 15:34
ah cool! The vending machine in the 2nd pic, is that where misuzu was "supposed" to buy the concentrated peach juice for yukito?

The "weird juice?"

I've seen a "real life" image of the peach juice, or maybe it was a tin box that looked like the aforementioned beverage. If I can find it again, I'll post it here. Or someone else will.

If I'm looking for Air juice I must be a freeplanetling.

Oh, and Neaco, thanks for the updated images. Great stuff. Post more if you find more....
frad113
2005-10-20, 20:40
You mean this?

http://tinypic.com/ab2x69.jpg

Courtesy of this (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=654491&postcount=262) post.
Neaco
2005-10-21, 02:29
Sure glad you like the photos Richard 23, I posted all the photo links I know of thus far.

One wonders if that drink is actually safe to drink, 500% of anything sounds scary; no wonder Yukito spit it out. If he died of peach overdose then there would be no anime lol

[Shiroth]

Thanks Xris, i was planning on such a fast reply. ^^

Really i should have checked there myself, but i thought maybe a nice lil' talk about the topic would be kind of nice.

[xris]

Really i should have checked there myself, but i thought maybe a nice lil' talk about the topic would be kind of nice.
Thanks should go to justsomeguy who recovered some of content of those threads :)

But that's a good point (and a good idea) about making a new thread to discuss the topic again. I must admit I had forgotten about the recovery thread so it may be an idea to create some of the other threads that had been partially recovered.

I was wondering about renaming this thread to Air's real world setting - Kami (Kasumi) Japan (back to the original name).

I'm always impressed when real life settings are used, and it's even nicer when you can compare the two (real life and anime) to see what inspired the artwork. Thanks to everyone for finding the links.

[Shiroth]

Renaming the thread sounds like a good idea, and i could see it bringing people back do to this topic.

Yeah, over the past few days i've been looking up on Anime thats used real locations.. & in my opinion Air's one of the best been used.

[Leo_Otaku]

i wonder if someone has like a detailed way of getting there in Japan I wanna check it out^-^

[Orchunter226]

i wonder if someone has like a detailed way of getting there in Japan I wanna check it out^-^
If only I could to Japan (or anywhere for that matter) but sadly I'm stuck here.

Actually, we have some scenery similar to that of this place, except for the whole mountain in the background, but the beaches and all are close (not for to much longer, durn condos).

[Neaco]

Yep this was my thread. I also found it pretty cool that the place existed in real life. 'm sure it's a lovely little seaside town^^

My original last post in the thread wasn't saved by google but I think an Animesuki member that said he LIVES there posted. I asked him if the people that live there know about AIR being set there but he didn't reply back.

If I ever go there someday and see a crow I will....

[Shiroth]

Hopefully i'll be able to travel there one day.. but thats just one of my dreams. ^^

For now the pictures shall do me fine.. and maybe even a lil' look on google earth. ^^;

[eLcHaKeTeRo]

i just looked at the pics.......wow......they are really nice, i think that that kind of town is one that i would like to live in, it looks really peaceful and stuff, and it really looks like in the anime, i think thats awesome

[buffboyali]

omg that just makes the anime get even better. It amazes me how the artist were inspired by this scenery and put it into the anime almost the exact same way they did. I wish I could visit there just too see it in person. I can almost see the cahracters being there.

[Neaco]

Now that you've reminded me, I think I'll put a mention of this into the AIR wikipedia article for all to see^^ I've made quite a couple additions to it myself since I like AIR so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR_%28game%29

I only edit wikipedia pages of things I like, and when I do I can spend upwards of hours finding and putting stuff in. All for the sole sake of the enlightment of anyone else who comes to the page^^

[SkyDragon]

Wow!! That is amazing that such a place existed. Those pictures are sooo similar to some of the scene in the anime.

I wanna go visit there one day...hopefully before I die. :p


If anyone play the game please let me if some of the scene are the same as in the anime show. I notice that the game came out in 199- and anime was released in 05 so there is a difference in year.

[Minoto]

If anyone play the game please let me if some of the scene are the same as in the anime show. I notice that the game came out in 199- and anime was released in 05 so there is a difference in year.

Actually, I believe Air originally came out in 2000, the year after Kanon, though there's still quite a gap between the release of the game and the anime. I'd say the series was quite faithful to the game in terms of locations, though -- here are a few backgrounds that I think you'll recognize immediately... ;)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/onallama/AIR/AIR-bg001.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/onallama/AIR/AIR-bg003.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/onallama/AIR/AIR-bg010y.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/onallama/AIR/AIR-bg004y.jpg

[kMisuzu]

hey everyone~
thanks for the information provided, I'll be traveling to Kami this summer!
if there are pictures you would like, please request them now :D

[frad113]

Do what they do over at japan-geographic.tv, just walk around and silently film everything. That was actually a request... :)

[Samatarou]

hey everyone~
thanks for the information provided, I'll be traveling to Kami this summer!
if there are pictures you would like, please request them now :D
I wouldn't mind a picture of Kano if she still lives there

[kMisuzu]

Do what they do over at japan-geographic.tv, just walk around and silently film everything. That was actually a request... :)
I might do that, although I do not think I'll be bringing my videocamera, so I'll just do it a little with my digicam.
Although hopefully I'll be out when not many people are about, because I do not want to be mobbed.
On a related note, anyone know anything about making masks for animegao?

[Neaco]

hey everyone~
thanks for the information provided, I'll be traveling to Kami this summer!
if there are pictures you would like, please request them now :D

Wow you're really going there? In *Summer*? Lucky. I really don't need to request anything as you'll obviously take photos of many of the familiar places.

But if would be nice if you could report back what being there felt like, not just comparing it to the series but as a regular town as well. Did Key try to be as close of the real thing as possible in AIR or did they just snap some photos for backgrounds and used artistic license on the rest?

I would also wonder if it is known to even some of the residents of Kami that an anime was based on their town. Altho I would assume not as there's countless animes based on many places in Japan but who knows :)

[kMisuzu]

We'll find out! Hopefully I can make a good report on this without being too overwhelmed by the AIRness. No pun intended.

[kMisuzu]

Bump. Last call, I'll be leaving June 5th.
There is a good chance I won't be cosplaying as planned since I haven't been able to fix my costume. Oh well, I don't know enough Japanese to avoid being lynched.

I'll be taking the bullet train (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikari_%28Shinkansen%29=) to Kyōto, followed by the Sanin Main Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanin_Main_Line) (rapid train hopefully) to Kasumi. From there it looks like I'll be pulling a Yukito.

[frad113]

Good luck and enjoy. I take that back: enjoy and good luck. :)

[Wuya]

Bump. Last call, I'll be leaving June 5th.
There is a good chance I won't be cosplaying as planned since I haven't been able to fix my costume. Oh well, I don't know enough Japanese to avoid being lynched.

I'll be taking the bullet train (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikari_%28Shinkansen%29=) to Kyōto, followed by the Sanin Main Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanin_Main_Line) (rapid train hopefully) to Kasumi. From there it looks like I'll be pulling a Yukito.

I will be looking forward for your report! Take plenty of pictures or camera shots!!!
HAVE FUN! STAY SAFE! DONT GET KIDNAPPED! XD
...to bad about the costume... but then again, wont they think tourist are a bit nutty if you did ? XD

and dont worry about japanese... look for McDonalds and you will be fine :D

[Minoto]

I have only the obvious suggestions for what to shoot once you're in Kasumi, so here's a different thought...try to document as much as you can of your trip there, too (stations, train lines, etc) for the benefit of future travelers. Take care, and enjoy!

[celcius]

Mreh? You plan on making a costume?
A black, long sleeve shirt + jeans should be enough~ ^^

I think most of the stuff has been covered by the above posts. So I guess I'll just go for...
Enjoy your trip and be safe~ ^^

[nani]

I'll be taking the bullet train (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikari_%28Shinkansen%29=) to Kyōto, followed by the Sanin Main Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanin_Main_Line) (rapid train hopefully) to Kasumi. From there it looks like I'll be pulling a Yukito.

More information can be found here (in Chinese/Japanese) : http://blog.roodo.com/riceking/archives/462539.html

In essence:

Kyoto(京都) - Himeji (姫路) : Hikari Shinkansen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikari_%28Shinkansen%29)
Himeji (姫路) - Wadayama (和田山) : Bantan Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantan_Line)
Wadayama (和田山) - Kasumi (香住) : Sanin Main Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanin_Main_Line)

The author traveled from Osaka to Kasumi and the journey took him 5 hours, so please be prepared....:heh:

BTW, have a nice trip :)

[kMisuzu]

More information can be found here (in Chinese/Japanese) : http://blog.roodo.com/riceking/archives/462539.html

In essence:

Kyoto(京都) - Himeji (姫路) : Hikari Shinkansen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikari_%28Shinkansen%29)
Himeji (姫路) - Wadayama (和田山) : Bantan Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantan_Line)
Wadayama (和田山) - Kasumi (香住) : Sanin Main Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanin_Main_Line)

The author traveled from Osaka to Kasumi and the journey took him 5 hours, so please be prepared....:heh:

BTW, have a nice trip :)
Thanks for the info! :D
I wasn't sure where I would meet the Sanin. Although I wasn't worried.
Although I really had no idea how long the trip would take. :3
I figured it would be at least 3, oh well.

Well I might do a basic Yukito still. I was going to do a Misuzu animegao :3
(If I did I would get a hotel, change hidden, sneak out and take pics then sneak back so I wouldn't be spotted. :3)
Although I guess it wouldn't be best to make a good impression, not for me but for all the other westerners who follow.

[Neaco]

Enjoy your first hand experience of the 1000th summer^^

What do you mean by "do a Misuzu animegao"

[kMisuzu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animegao

[Neaco]

oh ok, I've seen those before but always thought it was just another form of cosplay.

Looks pretty difficult if you ask me, I think doing a simple Yukito would be a lot better and easier.

[kMisuzu]

oh ok, I've seen those before but always thought it was just another form of cosplay.

Looks pretty difficult if you ask me, I think doing a simple Yukito would be a lot better and easier.

the benefits of doing Yukito outweigh the ones for doing Misuzu, maybe

i'll have to take a picture of me sleeping on a ledge, bus stop, and various other places

[Wuya]

oh oh oh! do one picture where you get arrested!!! XD

[sayuritokyo]

Here's a .kmz for kasumi town. (google earth link)

http://techsuki.net/Misuzu's town.kmz

I'm going back to Tokyo this Christmas, I'll take the shinkansen to Kyoto and those trains you mentioned, can't wait to visit her town! :D

[nani]

Surprisingly, Misuzu's home is located in Hakodate (one of the prefectures in Hokkaido, located at the north end of Japan).

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~uso9000/travel/air6.htm

This is the artwork of Misuzu's home in the game for comparison.

http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07241/183.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs216&d=07241&f=183.jpg)

[Neaco]

Never knew Misuzu's house existed. They never showed it in any of the Kami photos. Key takes ideas from just about everywhere it seems. Well although it's in Hokkaido, it is also by the ocean too^^

Also the "cold and wintery" Kanon inpired city, Moriguchi is a mere 132km from AIR's summer town of Kami, and Kami actually is further north.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/751/mapairkanonow6.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapairkanonow6.jpg)

[kMisuzu]

Well I've been and gone now.
I hate to disappoint, but that is about it. I'll write up completely later on and upload photos, but simply put - I didn't manage to accomplish anything. ;-;

My original plan was to have a friend come along who spoke good Japanese. He was here on business and would do some traveling with us afterwards. His plans had to change because his boss is dumb. I tried making a reservation for the night but failed pretty bad repeatedly. I doubt they dislike foreigners in the region, but I got hung up on twice.

Walked around and took vague pictures because we couldn't find/get to anything. I was pretty sure I knew where the bus stop and shrine were but those were two things we wouldn't be able to reach on foot with our baggage in tow ;-;
It was a pretty sunny day but that didn't work well on my physical and mental exhaustion. I was pulling a bag around with two weeks worth of stuff and wearing jeans and a long sleeve t-shirt. Later that day my luggage broke from all the pulling. ;-;

I still plan on going back someday, but it'll be awhile.

I'm going to go soak in a bath, try to fix my luggage, and tend to my wounds.

[kMisuzu]

Well I've been and gone now.
I hate to disappoint, but that is about it. I'll write up completely later on and upload photos, but simply put - I didn't manage to accomplish anything. ;-;

My original plan was to have a friend come along who spoke good Japanese. He was here on business and would do some traveling with us afterwards. His plans had to change because his boss is dumb. I tried making a reservation for the night but failed pretty bad repeatedly. I doubt they dislike foreigners in the region, but I got hung up on twice.

Walked around and took vague pictures because we couldn't find/get to anything. I was pretty sure I knew where the bus stop and shrine were but those were two things we wouldn't be able to reach on foot with our baggage in tow ;-;
It was a pretty sunny day but that didn't work well on my physical and mental exhaustion. I was pulling a bag around with two weeks worth of stuff and wearing jeans and a long sleeve t-shirt. Later that day my luggage broke from all the pulling. ;-;

I still plan on going back someday, but it'll be awhile.

I'm going to go soak in a bath, try to fix my luggage, and tend to my wounds.

I was pretty beat when I posted this so let me fill in a few gaps.
I speak very little Japanese and I think most people in the area have an accent. A schoolgirl on the train on the way back spoke just like Haruko. I got hung up on probably as a result of frustration on communication difficulties and they didn't want to wait for me to flip through my phrasebook. I did call a friend and have him call on my behalf and they said they were full. There were other places but he had to get on a plane and the one with the best chance of luck was out of our range and we didn't have their phone number. If we went out to their area it would of cost a lot of time and money. We had to call it a day, because if we went out there and couldn't get a room we wouldn't be able to make it back to a city with a hotel we could stay at.
Also, I found that even what I thought was a good amount of research wasn't enough, and this hotel definitely wouldn't have internet to do more. So even if I stayed it would be very difficult. I at least could of visited the shrine/temple and the bus stop.
It also seems like the station area shore front has been getting a bit of a remodeling, there was construction on new walkways and something else. Wait for the pictures on that one.
btw, Anyone know of an easily accessible (by JR rail) luggage shop in Hiroshima or Tokyo?

still going to write a full report with pictures but lacking proper AIRness ;-;

[Kinny Riddle]

I was pretty beat when I posted this so let me fill in a few gaps.
I speak very little Japanese and I think most people in the area have an accent. A schoolgirl on the train on the way back spoke just like Haruko. I got hung up on probably as a result of frustration on communication difficulties and they didn't want to wait for me to flip through my phrasebook. I did call a friend and have him call on my behalf and they said they were full. There were other places but he had to get on a plane and the one with the best chance of luck was out of our range and we didn't have their phone number. If we went out to their area it would of cost a lot of time and money. We had to call it a day, because if we went out there and couldn't get a room we wouldn't be able to make it back to a city with a hotel we could stay at.
Also, I found that even what I thought was a good amount of research wasn't enough, and this hotel definitely wouldn't have internet to do more. So even if I stayed it would be very difficult. I at least could of visited the shrine/temple and the bus stop.
It also seems like the station area shore front has been getting a bit of a remodeling, there was construction on new walkways and something else. Wait for the pictures on that one.
btw, Anyone know of an easily accessible (by JR rail) luggage shop in Hiroshima or Tokyo?

still going to write a full report with pictures but lacking proper AIRness ;-;
Welcome back from such a tiring but worthwhile journey. I'm wondering if you're planning to upload any of the photos that you've taken through Panoramio so that they can be seen on Google Earth?

(Unfortunately, the area around Kasumi still doesn't have any decent aerial photos, so no luck trying to see the town from a crystal clear bird's eye view on Google Earth. )

[Wuya]

I was pretty beat when I posted this so let me fill in a few gaps.
I speak very little Japanese and I think most people in the area have an accent. A schoolgirl on the train on the way back spoke just like Haruko. I got hung up on probably as a result of frustration on communication difficulties and they didn't want to wait for me to flip through my phrasebook. I did call a friend and have him call on my behalf and they said they were full. There were other places but he had to get on a plane and the one with the best chance of luck was out of our range and we didn't have their phone number. If we went out to their area it would of cost a lot of time and money. We had to call it a day, because if we went out there and couldn't get a room we wouldn't be able to make it back to a city with a hotel we could stay at.
Also, I found that even what I thought was a good amount of research wasn't enough, and this hotel definitely wouldn't have internet to do more. So even if I stayed it would be very difficult. I at least could of visited the shrine/temple and the bus stop.
It also seems like the station area shore front has been getting a bit of a remodeling, there was construction on new walkways and something else. Wait for the pictures on that one.
btw, Anyone know of an easily accessible (by JR rail) luggage shop in Hiroshima or Tokyo?

still going to write a full report with pictures but lacking proper AIRness ;-;

Still, it be nice to see what you saw... i hope i will make a trip there some day, my curiosity is killing me.
But hopefully you still had fun... despite luggage lugging and then having it break and having the bad hotel experience...

[kMisuzu]

Welcome back from such a tiring but worthwhile journey. I'm wondering if you're planning to upload any of the photos that you've taken through Panoramio so that they can be seen on Google Earth?

(Unfortunately, the area around Kasumi still doesn't have any decent aerial photos, so no luck trying to see the town from a crystal clear bird's eye view on Google Earth. )

I'm not quite back yet, in Tokyo til Tuesday. If it isn't too difficult, I'm sure I can figure out how to upload the photos through Panoramio. I had taken a few shots I was hoping I could make panoramic ones of anyways, even though I don't have a tripod.

I'll let you guys know when I wake up after I get home :3
btw, still don't mean to hijack the thread, i'll provide lots of (hopefully) useful info to contribute when i'm back



it was still worth going, and fun; but i have to go back to get to the next arc :3

[sayuritokyo]

I can give you a bannerless hosting space to upload your trip pictures if you need

[Leo_Otaku]

That really sucks that it didn't work out well. :( Would be happy to see any pics though.

I went to Kanon bench in Osaka I was going to try and go to the AIR sites but wasn't enough time. Plus my friend was bitching too much. I plan to do that for the next time I go in 2008 probably. I also want to vist kanon bench again too.

[kMisuzu]

That really sucks that it didn't work out well. :( Would be happy to see any pics though.

I went to Kanon bench in Osaka I was going to try and go to the AIR sites but wasn't enough time. Plus my friend was bitching too much. I plan to do that for the next time I go in 2008 probably. I also want to vist kanon bench again too.

I am waiting for it in the AIRport, the 1000th flight.
I'm on my way home but my last flight got canceled so i'm spending a night in JFK airport, New York. ;-;




I want to visit Kanon bench.

[dichter]

Those place in anime are great.!

[sayuritokyo]

Ive been there,

300 pics here http://picasaweb.google.com/hikaritokyo/KasumiAirMisuzuSTown

some more info http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=10993

http://lh3.google.com/hikaritokyo/R4915BsH48I/AAAAAAAAAzI/tlfNuYO09vU/PICT2382.JPG?imgmax=912
http://lh6.google.com/hikaritokyo/R498MxsH5vI/AAAAAAAAA6w/ZM8N3sP1YXI/PICT2434.JPG?imgmax=720

[Timae7]

look what i found :)

http://www.moetron.com/2005/06/19/air-tv-real-life-settings/