true tears (old generic discussion thread)

[cloudninja]

The main page of the official website currently has a picture of the 3 girls in a pretty cute Valentine's Day theme. Shinichiro, you lucky little punk! You actually make me feel a bit jealous! Don't be hogging all 3 for yourself. Here's hoping that we see something about Valentine's Day on the show.

http://www.truetears.jp/

[Deathkillz]

PIMP!

Valentine's day is never good news in a romance series :rolleyes:

[cloudninja]

If they have Valentine's Day on the show then soon we'll see White Day as well. Ah, the dilemma Shin would face.


PIMP!

Valentine's day is never good news in a romance series :rolleyes:

Funny that Shin was called out as a pimp in the show as well, at 7:22 of episode 2.

[golthin]

If they have Valentine's Day on the show then soon we'll see White Day as well. Ah, the dilemma Shin would face.




Funny that Shin was called out as a pimp in the show as well, at 7:22 of episode 2.

I don't think there will be valantine's day, they are right now around september-october in the anime, right before their culture festival.

[cloudninja]

I don't think there will be valantine's day, they are right now around september-october in the anime, right before their culture festival.


Darn. I guess that pic is just like the christmas one, made just for the fans but having no relation to the show:( They're missing out on good material though for the show.

[Supah Em]

The main page of the official website currently has a picture of the 3 girls in a pretty cute Valentine's Day theme. Shinichiro, you lucky little punk! You actually make me feel a bit jealous! Don't be hogging all 3 for yourself. Here's hoping that we see something about Valentine's Day on the show.

http://www.truetears.jp/

ahh! MOE!

now that i want to see! even in an OVA or something!

[cloudninja]

Anyone else think that the opening and ending songs offer some clues? The part about "even a narrow road is fine", "...towards the miracle" as well as a few other lines although the rest are probably just filler material. I'm guessing in terms of the show it means to take a difficult path and finding happiness at the end or taking a small opportunity and turning it into a miracle. The songwriters probably got a general idea of what the show would be about and what happens from the director or lead writer and then wrote lyrics that would fit the show. Even the ending song has a few interesting lines and seems to tell things from Hiromi's point of view. Not my translation.

I want to forget,
I have to forget.
While wavering,
My heart sinks.
It's for you,
I'm tellin' a lie. (This part is sung in english. Some translators missed this initially and made up something but updated their ED translation later)

That part matches up with Hiromi in episodes 2 and 3 where she struggles with herself, sees Shin carrying Noe, then tells the lie about liking #4 (Jun). Some of the lyrics seem to have proven relevant to what actually happens so I'm wondering if a few other lines will prove relevant as well.

[Kaoru Chujo]

There's practically no fanservice in True Tears, especially when compared to something as excessive as R+V.And then there's KimiAru, which has at least as much fanservice as the execrable R+V, but it all works, especially with the outrageous nature of the humor in that show.

Personally, I think having just a bit of fanservice in TT is good: just a bit of panty and a girl holding a towel, as far as I can recall. It gives a little edge to things. I also liked the tiny bit of male fanservice (naked upper body bishounen) in ep16 of the unfortunately neglected Shion no Ou.

[Shiroth]

You know Kaoru Chujo, maybe you shouldn't spoil Shion no Ou for the people who're waiting for the subs. :p

[Kaoru Chujo]

You know Kaoru Chujo, maybe you shouldn't spoil Shion no Ou for the people who're waiting for the subs. :pI didn't think I had. Is simply mentioning the presence of a bishounen a spoiler? I didn't say who it was or what the situation was. Seems to me far less info than in the briefest of newspaper movie reviews or even previews. Personally, I thought I was advertising the show rather than spoiling it. But I'm certainly willing to be convinced.

[golthin]

I didn't think I had. Is simply mentioning the presence of a bishounen a spoiler? I didn't say who it was or what the situation was. Seems to me far less info than in the briefest of newspaper movie reviews or even previews. Personally, I thought I was advertising the show rather than spoiling it. But I'm certainly willing to be convinced.

for some people even minor future events are spoilers. I know people never watch previews of anime just to not be spoiled at all.

[Kaoru Chujo]

for some people even minor future events are spoilers. I know people never watch previews of anime just to not be spoiled at all.I know that, and keep an eye on the customs in each thread. But the fact of a bishounen in a future episode hardly seems to me any kind of spoiler. It never occurred to me it could spoil anyone. I mean, would it be a spoiler if I said Shion played shougi in a future episode?

But I have run into this before, and try to keep comments spoilered until subs have been out a while or others have plastered real spoilers all over the place. These threads are basically fansub threads, so I have learned to spoiler my comments on raws.

I'll keep trying to be more careful, I suppose, although I'm not sure my mind can actually grasp this idea. I'd feel better if Shiroth told me it was actually he who felt spoiled, rather than some theoretical person.

In any case, thanks to you both for keeping me alert, painful and confusing as I find this.

[MercFH]

And then there's KimiAru, which has at least as much fanservice as the execrable R+V, but it all works, especially with the outrageous nature of the humor in that show.

Personally, I think having just a bit of fanservice in TT is good: just a bit of panty and a girl holding a towel, as far as I can recall. It gives a little edge to things. I also liked the tiny bit of male fanservice (naked upper body bishounen) in ep16 of the unfortunately neglected Shion no Ou.

this is true, but Fan-service is fine as long as it's not super ecchi. because yea fan-service is good and fun when it adds to the story, but this anime wouldnt benefit from fan-service and nudity etc "just to be there". So thats why I enjoy this show so much so far

[Nenkitsune]

this is true, but Fan-service is fine as long as it's not super ecchi. because yea fan-service is good and fun when it adds to the story, but this anime wouldnt benefit from fan-service and nudity etc "just to be there". So thats why I enjoy this show so much so far

same here. fan service is good in shows that are ment to make you laugh and be pointless in general, but a show as serious as True Tears would be ruined by pointless fan service.

[golthin]

same here. fan service is good in shows that are ment to make you laugh and be pointless in general, but a show as serious as True Tears would be ruined by pointless fan service.

This show doesn't uses fanservice to attract the audience, but the little fanservice we got is just part of the story and used to develope the characters and show how they feel about each other.
Like Shin looking at Hiromi during breakfast and seeing through her clothes. that was just to show how much she was inside his head.

[Nenkitsune]

that's exactly what i mean though. any fanservice in the show only add's to the show and doesn't really distract you from the main point.

[MercFH]

^^ unless it's R+V which doesn't have a point anyways

[velvet]

Anyone else think that the opening and ending songs offer some clues? The part about "even a narrow road is fine", "...towards the miracle" as well as a few other lines although the rest are probably just filler material. I'm guessing in terms of the show it means to take a difficult path and finding happiness at the end or taking a small opportunity and turning it into a miracle. The songwriters probably got a general idea of what the show would be about and what happens from the director or lead writer and then wrote lyrics that would fit the show. Even the ending song has a few interesting lines and seems to tell things from Hiromi's point of view. Not my translation.

I want to forget,
I have to forget.
While wavering,
My heart sinks.
It's for you,
I'm tellin' a lie. (This part is sung in english. Some translators missed this initially and made up something but updated their ED translation later)

That part matches up with Hiromi in episodes 2 and 3 where she struggles with herself, sees Shin carrying Noe, then tells the lie about liking #4 (Jun). Some of the lyrics seem to have proven relevant to what actually happens so I'm wondering if a few other lines will prove relevant as well.

Interesting thoughts. Gotta re-check Reflectia's lyrics.

[TinyRedLeaf]

As a rule, I avoid high school romances. If it's sappy, sentimental, soap operas I'm after, I'd sooner watch K-drama instead. At least then there would be real actresses I can ogle and fantasise over.

So, it was with some apprehension that I gave True Tears a try. And sure enough, I come across the same contrived plots of shy girls, love triangles, clueless boys, and a lead hero whom every single girl seems to fall in love with. It even has the *tada*
incest angle covered. Whoopie. Forbidden love. No weepy romance worth its salt can go without it.

But then, here I am, seven episodes later, and I'm still looking forward to the rest of the show. The overall aesthetic is very attractive, and the characters are highly likeable even though I find the plot annoyingly predictable. Isurugi Noe made the show fun and interesting ever since Episode 2, and she continues to make me smile, while Aiko is now my favourite girl in the show. I'll be rooting for her, even if it seems futile.

Oh wait. What's this? Arrgh. I've been hooked while my guard is down! Dammit! I should be more careful next time when checking out high school romances.

[serenade_beta]

The drama CD... I had completely forgotten it until today, but randomly found it and listened... Really nostalgic, everything is... BGM... characters... Stories were nicely done too. As expected, Hiromi's story is the lightest and Noe's story (focused on her after being dumped) is the gloomiest...
Poor Noe... :(
Though I support Hiromi, so I guess I didn't suffer as much as Noe's as they listened to this CD. :heh:

Geez... Whenever Miyukichi talks, I hear Takumi's voice... :eyespin::heh:

As always, Noe's attitude is as denpa as ever... *sigh*

Well, it really was a good anime... Hiromi saikou desu~!

[Kikyo_Cat]

I loved this series :\

I'm really into romance stuff though. xD

though I can't say who I'd rather him be with, because I'm not sure ,><,

[Guardian Enzo]

Here's some gratifying news:

http://www.animenation.net/blog/2009/08/03/japanese-fans-rank-most-wanted-anime-on-bd/

[velvet nightmare]

wait what? it ranked ahead of haruhi and clannad?

[relentlessflame]

wait what? it ranked ahead of haruhi and clannad?There might be a logical reason for that. Back in the early days, the show was supposed to get a Blu-Ray release, and then it was cancelled and released only on DVD. So it could be that people who were planning to buy the show decided to hold off and wait for the Blu-Rays rather than purchase the DVDs. With Clannad and Haruhi, no Blu-Ray release was ever promised, so most of the people who wanted to buy the show may have already bought it on DVD (not knowing whether it may or may not get re-released "some day"), so may not want to buy it again.

I know that, speaking personally, I'd definitely re-buy true tears if it were released on Blu-Ray. Not 100% sure about the other two (even though I like them a lot as well).

[velvet nightmare]

but the title of the article was "Japanese Fans Rank Most Wanted Anime on BD" it's irrelevant if there will ever be a haruhi blu ray b/c it's a 'want' survey. else those entries wouldn't be posted in the first place. the small sample size leads me to believe that the Japan’s Blu-ray Disc Association really isn't an influential group and this survey is probably meaningless b/c honestly just looking at "Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu 2.4% 209 votes". really. 209 votes? only 209 people want a haruhi blu ray release? it's like going to an anime convention or something and finding out only 2 or 3 people out of 100 want a haruhi blu ray. i find it odd

[puretsundere]

the small sample size leads me to believe that the Japan’s Blu-ray Disc Association really isn't an influential group and this survey is probably meaningless b/c honestly just looking at "Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu 2.4% 209 votes". really. 209 votes? only 209 people want a haruhi blu ray release? it's like going to an anime convention or something and finding out only 2 or 3 people out of 100 want a haruhi blu ray. i find it odd

Of course, any survey's results should be taken with a grain of salt, so yes there is a chance the results are slightly biased. Not sure how big the sample size is or who exactly was surveyed, so it mgiht lead to misleading. I'm still reallt happy true tears got that many votes though. As for Haruhi, the Endless Eight arc might still be fresh on everyone's mind.

I know that, speaking personally, I'd definitely re-buy true tears if it were released on Blu-Ray.

You and me both. Still one of, if not my, favorite anime series ever.

[Arya]

Anyone has read the review of TT DVD on ANN? It doesn't seem fair at all to me. I understand that some people could be not happy about hiromi ending, but be honest a bit.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/true-tears/sub.dvd-complete-series-anime-legends

[relentlessflame]

Anyone has read the review of TT DVD on ANN? It doesn't seem fair at all to me. I understand that some people could be not happy about hiromi ending, but be honest a bit.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/true-tears/sub.dvd-complete-series-anime-legendsWell, it pretty much has all the smatterings of "I've been forced to review a genre I rather detest". If you take away the symbolism and metaphors (which are the essential basis of the plot), and remove the leads and the weighty atmosphere, what's left? Well, apparently Noe and Nobuse, the two characters he did like and could relate to. So it was sort of a foregone conclusion ("the only parts I liked were only subplots").

But then again, I fundamentally disagree with the premise that one should be able to take any which anime, watch it, and expect to be entertained just by virtue of the fact that other anime have entertained you before (any more than watching any random movie, or reading and random book, or playing any random game). But this is what these people have to do to justify their paycheque -- they get paid to watch everything so that other people don't have to, and just don't blame them if they don't like most of what they're forced to watch. This is why knowing the reviewer's tastes and biases (and where you stand in relation) is almost more important than whatever they have to say.

[foxy12]

Well, it pretty much has all the smatterings of "I've been forced to review a genre I rather detest". If you take away the symbolism and metaphors (which are the essential basis of the plot), and remove the leads and the weighty atmosphere, what's left? Well, apparently Noe and Nobuse, the two characters he did like and could relate to. So it was sort of a foregone conclusion ("the only parts I liked were only subplots").

But then again, I fundamentally disagree with the premise that one should be able to take any which anime, watch it, and expect to be entertained just by virtue of the fact that other anime have entertained you before (any more than watching any random movie, or reading and random book, or playing any random game). But this is what these people have to do to justify their paycheque -- they get paid to watch everything so that other people don't have to, and just don't blame them if they don't like most of what they're forced to watch. This is why knowing the reviewer's tastes and biases (and where you stand in relation) is almost more important than whatever they have to say.

I agree with you on this ..I mean when you review a show ,you shouidn't just focus on the characters you like but the whole entire series ...

[foxy12]

Anyone has read the review of TT DVD on ANN? It doesn't seem fair at all to me. I understand that some people could be not happy about hiromi ending, but be honest a bit.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/true-tears/sub.dvd-complete-series-anime-legends

He's review is a bit unfair if you ask me ,Hiromi was one of the most complex characters in this anime and she deserved the ending that she got ..He didn't taik a bout it from Hiromi's POV -only noe and Nobuse ..I wonder why ?

I'm I the only one who thinks that Hiromi didn't do anything wrong -it seems that people are blind to this show and don't seem to focus on Hiromi.. but Ai made 10 times worst mistakes than Hiromi and she was more messed up than her because of her self-loathing (even the writer said that ).At least Hiromi's actions were understandabe given her situation ..messy for sure but she didn't go as far as Ai did ..did she ? though I liked all characters and Ai was my fav ..

I'm sorry but he's reveiw doesn't make sence at all ..He only taiked a bout Nobuse and Noe..this review sucks ..

[relentlessflame]

I'm I the only one who thinks that Hiromi didn't do anything wrong -it seems that people are blind to this show and don't seem to focus on Hiromi.. but Ai made 10 times worst mistakes than Hiromi and she was more messed up than her because of her self-loathing (even the writer said that ).At least Hiromi's actions were understandabe given her situation ..messy for sure but she didn't go as far as Ai did ..did she ? though I liked all characters and Ai was my fav ..Actually, in fairness to the review, his main problem with Hiromi probably was that she didn't do anything wrong. That's probably why he found her "boring"; in his mind she was something of a little-miss-perfect that wasn't worth the interest. But on the other hand, I agree with you that her situation made her interesting, and she wasn't as boring or straightforward as she might seem (in fact, a large part of what made her interesting was the way that she sort of indirectly shielded her feelings, similar to Shinichirou's mother). But I guess it's all about preference and taste. In the end the review comes down to "I wasn't able to relate to the main characters, so I wasn't able to enjoy the story", which I guess is logical. The problem is that, like most reviews, he makes it sounds like the characters are "unrelate-able", which just isn't the case.

[foxy12]

Actually, in fairness to the review, his main problem with Hiromi probably was that she didn't do anything wrong. That's probably why he found her "boring"; in his mind she was something of a little-miss-perfect that wasn't worth the interest. But on the other hand, I agree with you that her situation made her interesting, and she wasn't as boring or straightforward as she might seem (in fact, a large part of what made her interesting was the way that she sort of indirectly shielded her feelings, similar to Shinichirou's mother). But I guess it's all about preference and taste. In the end the review comes down to "I wasn't able to relate to the main characters, so I wasn't able to enjoy the story", which I guess is logical. The problem is that, like most reviews, he makes it sounds like the characters are "unrelate-able", which just isn't the case.



Yeah, I agree ..He's lines such as -

+ A pair of highly likeable characters whose romantic travails invoke real heartbreak. ..He's referring to Noe and Nobuse ..but wasn't everyone else heartbroken ?

"That honor goes to Shinichiro and Hiromi, neither of whom can sustain an emotional charge the way the nobly self-sacrificing Nobuse or perceptive yet innocent Noe can. Shinichiro is both personality-challenged and irritating (as only a bland, petulant and self-interested brat can be), and Hiromi is the rare female lead who can out-bore her male counterpart. Worse yet, they never click as a potential couple' ..lol ,and why don't they click ? it's been from ep 1 to ep 13 a bout Shin finding a way to approach Hiromi and regain her happiness while helping Noe find her tears .It's only right that he chose Hiromi even though it would be nice if he chose Noe ,but it would be very tragic for Hiromi,at the end Noe got her tears and became an emotional complete person and I'm sure she'd pick her tears over Shin if she was given the choice herself .. ..

All you need to remember is that true tears doesn't work as a romance. No romance can survive a cast with the chemistry of inert gasses, and definitely not one led by a dud like Shinichiro.." and what's wrong with Shinichiro,he's a better lead than many -he didn't seem irritating at all ,a confused ,teenage boy caught in some Pressured circumstances, saying that Nobuse is better than him doesn't seem fair really -he's situation was harder than Nobuse's situation ,I don't see why he says that Nobuse is a better character than him ,both are good in their own ways but Shin's situation was harder even though Nobuse had it bad but still ..

"when their disparate love lives begin to disintegrate' wasn't everyone desperate in this show ,it wasn't just Nobuse and Noe .In fact Noe and Nobuse had the most pure/honest love of all in this show,...Ai ,Jun,Shin and Hiromi were emotionally self-destructive characters ..Jun and Ai had the most darkest feelings..Shin and Hiromi were victims of their parents lies..


It's like he totally messed the point of this anime but this is his opinion after all and we can't change it ..

To be honest with you ,Hiromi was more of a main girl than even Noe to me and I've seen comments everywhere a bout Hiromi being dull or boring and that's why they prefer Noe over her even though Hiromi has more realism than Noe .I have seen many posts a bout people trying to make Hiromi seem like villain. Maybe because Hiromi was very difficult to read at times and her inner conflicts were just huge but she was definitely sympathetic. But I also liked and felt sorry for Noe ..Everyone in this show is likable..

Sorry if it's long though ^ ^

[willyvereb]

Lol...if it comes to 'True Tears' you are unstopable.:)
Well, I know they should've added some more scenes for Hiromi. I mean I understand why he's saying in the review they hardly clicked toghether...not as if it were true, but because half of Hiromi's developments from the flashbacks. And I agree that the writer of the review actually can't relate with the other characters.
Hell, seeing Shinchiro as an idiot is extremely harsh...he's oblivious at romance and women, but certainly sensitive and caring person. And he's reserved and modest too. Almost as good as Kaoru from Ai Yori Aoshi as a lead protagonist.

And True Tears was a good show even if it had few obvious or cliche-like drama.

[ZODDGUTS]

3 min of new footage plus an epilogue in the Blu Ray released:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-01-03/true-tears-bd-box-with-new-epilogue-confirmed

[Zetsubo]

In the end the review comes down to "I wasn't able to relate to the main characters, so I wasn't able to enjoy the story", which I guess is logical. The problem is that, like most reviews, he makes it sounds like the characters are "unrelate-able", which just isn't the case.

This is something I notice more frequently these days as I get older and wiser.

[Guardian Enzo]

3 min of new footage plus an epilogue in the Blu Ray released:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-01-03/true-tears-bd-box-with-new-epilogue-confirmed

If they pull a switcheroo and have Shin paired off with Noe, I'll be very pissed. This is probably the only romance anime ever where I rooted for the winning girl.

[puretsundere]

If they pull a switcheroo and have Shin paired off with Noe, I'll be very pissed. This is probably the only romance anime ever where I rooted for the winning girl.

It's a three minute epilogue after the 13th episode, so I don't think there's any chance for Shin to change his mind or for an alternate ending scenario. Even as a devoted Noe fan, I wouldn't want to see the ending changed as I feel it would completely undermine the entire series and the decision Shin ultimately made - to be with Hiromi.

Again, I loved the ending and will be curious how everybody's lives continued after the last episode. Can't wait for see it!

[Guardian Enzo]

I agree 100%. I'd love 3 years of new TT but 3 minutes is sure better than nothing.

[anselfir]

it is still mind boggling how a simple and straightforward show can leave so many people perplexed and even firmly convinced that some major twist was necessary for hiromi to win. there was no other way things can happen once the facts are laid on the table.

[willyvereb]

Of course. Just people need to rewatch the first 7 minutes of the very first episode carefully and they already know with whom Shinchiro is going to end up.:p

[Sphire]

ooo, interesting to note there'll be a 3 minute epilogue. Makes you wonder what can actually fit inside 3 minutes, especially if it's depicting the future. We'll see, I guess.

[Sephiroth_760]

ooo, interesting to note there'll be a 3 minute epilogue. Makes you wonder what can actually fit inside 3 minutes, especially if it's depicting the future. We'll see, I guess.

where've u heard about that?
even though it's just 3 minutes I would love to see it o.o

[Sphire]

where've u heard about that?
even though it's just 3 minutes I would love to see it o.o

It's on the website zoddguts gave. Just browse through it

[Sephiroth_760]

It's on the website zoddguts gave. Just browse through it

yeah already found that info
but really, 3 minutes
I think if I've got the chance to watch'em I will miss true tears even more lol

[mammothb]

dying to find out what will happen. when's the blue-ray release?

[relentlessflame]

dying to find out what will happen. when's the blue-ray release?It's scheduled to ship in end-March.

In terms of finding out what happens, though, the Drama CD will still probably be where it's at -- it's hard to expect much out of three minutes of extra footage.

[Sephiroth_760]

It's scheduled to ship in end-March.

In terms of finding out what happens, though, the Drama CD will still probably be where it's at -- it's hard to expect much out of three minutes of extra footage.

well, I don't want to see that much
I'll be happy if I just could see Hiromi and Noe smiling

[z3phyr.mp3]

It's scheduled to ship in end-March.

In terms of finding out what happens, though, the Drama CD will still probably be where it's at -- it's hard to expect much out of three minutes of extra footage.

It seems that you're quite right in predicting that it'll be based on the drama cds.. after watching those three minutes i can't help but think and encourage anyone to listen to the drama cds first to better understand the scenes..

although the additional scenes only have a song as the background music with no voice acting at all, it was still a great addition to the series..

more noe is always a plus in my book.. ;):p

[BradF]

With this anime not being based off the source game/manga I hope they do a second season or something. I watched the Blu-Ray Epilogue and I was impressed just like I was with the series it gave me a idea of what happened after but it had a few why is she doing that things that can be expanded on ect.

This series is one of the best of the romance/love triangle/polygon genre. The animation is top notch and REAL no fake Japanese elements to take away from the realism..

[W-General]

My copy of the BD Box just arrived in the mail today...yes I splurged $200+ for True Tears...and asked my friend who lives in Japan to help me out. Overall it's a worthy sacrifice - just in time to have vol.1 (the Hiromi cover) signed by Nazuka Kaori at this year's Anime Central ;)

Overall everything appears to be absolutely top-notch. There are some minor gripes about why it is in 1080i rather than 1080p (probably because the original was made in 720p...) but I think the differences are minor. At least on my HDTV it appears stunning.

The booklet is a lot of fun too, and Toyoma looks like somewhere I'd want to go and check out if I ever get the chance.

Now that I've watched the epilogue, it seems that it is imperative for me to listen to the drama CD fully...I guess I really should just go ahead and buy a copy of that too.

[Sephiroth_760]

Now that I've watched the epilogue, it seems that it is imperative for me to listen to the drama CD fully...I guess I really should just go ahead and buy a copy of that too.

I had a try with the drama cd, but unfortunately I'm not that good in japanese haha xD
anyone knows where I can find a translation?

[relentlessflame]

anyone knows where I can find a translation?As far as I know, no one has yet translated it into English. It's too bad, though, as it's a very relevant epilogue to the show. Perhaps someone will start working on it...

[germanturkey]

so what happens in said epilogue? i have yet to find it anywhere. and of course, i need to know what happens to my ship.

[relentlessflame]

so what happens in said epilogue? i have yet to find it anywhere. and of course, i need to know what happens to my ship.
It doesn't really change anything about the "ships" compared to the TV ending of the final episode; it reflects what happens on the Drama CD. Aoi & Nobuse start going out for real, Hiromi and Shinichirou are still going out as well (while Hiromi has to face some issues with her friend at the basketball club), and Noe gets new friends and finds the strength to move forward. The insinuation at the epilogue is that she's finally able to fly. It's been a while since I've listened to the drama CD to remember all the details, but the animated portion is a short montage set to music with no voiced parts.

[Sephiroth_760]

As far as I know, no one has yet translated it into English. It's too bad, though, as it's a very relevant epilogue to the show. Perhaps someone will start working on it...

yeah too sad -.-'


everybody who has seen the 3min epilogue is the owner of a BD box ain't it? but where do I find these box? if I search for example amazon I can't find it at all

uk amazon doesn't has it either >.<

so where do u guys got the BD box?

[germanturkey]

that's good to hear. i know they wouldn't break up Hiromi and Shin after the show was over. its good to see they're happy :)

[relentlessflame]

so where do u guys got the BD box?Yeah it was a bit of a pain because it was sold exclusively as a mail-order offer with Bandai Visual. In my case, a kind poster on another message board who lives in Japan ordered it on my behalf and shipped it to me. I assume that most others who got their copy but don't live in Japan also had to go through similar steps involving a proxy of some sort.

[Sephiroth_760]

Yeah it was a bit of a pain because it was sold exclusively as a mail-order offer with Bandai Visual. In my case, a kind poster on another message board who lives in Japan ordered it on my behalf and shipped it to me. I assume that most others who got their copy but don't live in Japan also had to go through similar steps involving a proxy of some sort.

I see ...
is there any english subtitle in the japanese BD?

and it will be published in the UK's too, won't it?

it would be a farce if it'll be only avaiable in japan haha xD

[W-General]

It is mail-order pre-order only, as in you cannot even find it on amazon japan right now. I happen to have a very good friend from college who now lives in Japan and I paypaled him the money and he ordered it for me.

No English subs, etc.

Heck, not even Japanese subs.

[Sephiroth_760]

wtf xD
sounds like it would be impossible for me to get the BD somehow lol
<- doesn't has any connections to japan xDD

[pdshingo]

yeah too sad -.-'


everybody who has seen the 3min epilogue is the owner of a BD box ain't it? but where do I find these box? if I search for example amazon I can't find it at all

uk amazon doesn't has it either >.<

so where do u guys got the BD box?

If you just want to watch the 3min epilogue in BD, you could find it on youtube. All the scenes in this epilogue are from the stories in drama CD(BTW, there's also drama CDs on youtube XD)

If you really want BD, you could try yahoo auctions or some aution services sites.

[Sephiroth_760]

If you just want to watch the 3min epilogue in BD, you could find it on youtube. All the scenes in this epilogue are from the stories in drama CD(BTW, there's also drama CDs on youtube XD)

If you really want BD, you could try yahoo auctions or some aution services sites.

sounds interesting
maybe I'll keep watch in ebay, too

[DragoZERO]

I'll have to look for it. God, I loved this series. I may have to watch it yet again now. :heh:

[maggiej]

The epilogue was okay ,I expected them to add more scenes from the drama CD .I felt it a lacked a bit but anywayz,great series ^ ^

[Sephiroth_760]

The epilogue was okay

yep you're pretty right but I kinda got the feeling that Hiromi's not happy in the situation she is xD
well, when Hiromi and Shin sat in the bus house and the camera blended away I guess she wanted Hiromi wanted to kiss SHin but still it seems that there's something worng >.<

[pdshingo]

yep you're pretty right but I kinda got the feeling that Hiromi's not happy in the situation she is xD
well, when Hiromi and Shin sat in the bus house and the camera blended away I guess she wanted Hiromi wanted to kiss SHin but still it seems that there's something worng >.<

She's not unhappy as you think. The topic of her DramaCD is about some connections/bonds between woman. In dramaCD, she tried to understand what Noe thinks / feels. She's not jealous of Noe at all, but more like admire/respect her. It's the scene she figured out what Noe felt when Shin said farewell to Noe. She felt sorry to Noe, therefore she cried.

(Sorry my English is poor...hope you could understand)

In fact, they get along very well ,but the directors didn't give such scenes in 3min epliugue. I dont know why they're always so stingy to give some scenes show they are happy to be together .:( (at least some eye contact or smile scenes... )

[Sephiroth_760]

She's not unhappy as you think. The topic of her DramaCD is about some connections/bonds between woman. In dramaCD, she tried to understand what Noe thinks / feels. She's not jealous of Noe at all, but more like admire/respect her. It's the scene she figured out what Noe felt when Shin said farewell to Noe. She felt sorry to Noe, therefore she cried.


I see ... I forgot that the epilogue was based on the drama ced since I haven't heard it, or better said, I didn't understand the whole thing (<- japanese's not good) xD

[velvet nightmare]

yeah i have no clue what happened there

ok so is this series done? or what's up with that ending.

[serenade_beta]

I forgot the epilogue already came out...
Went to watch it... Very nostalgic... *tears*
:T_T::T_T:
Reminds me of how furious the shipping wars were on this forum while it aired, hyahyahya. :heh:

[DragoZERO]

I forgot the epilogue already came out...
Went to watch it... Very nostalgic... *tears*
:T_T::T_T:
Reminds me of how furious the shipping wars were on this forum while it aired, hyahyahya. :heh:
I'm sad that I missed all of that. Must have been a lot of fun.

[cloudninja]

I'm sad that I missed all of that. Must have been a lot of fun.

Those were good times. This was one of the few shows where I watched the raws as soon as they were available while waiting for the subs. The intentionally misleading end of episode previews along with the weekly preview pics on the official site made things interesting and did a good job of building up the anticipation.

Personally I think that watching each episode as it was being released gave it more of an impact than if I had just watched it all at once because you had a week to think and wait between each episode. When you watch the series all at once you don't even pay attention to the previews. Anyway I have to watch it again sometime, this time in Bluray on a widescreen TV instead of a monitor.

[germanturkey]

shipping wars in good dramas are always fantastic to be a part of. i wasn't a member at suki yet, but there was a rather large war at AN too.

[pdshingo]

shipping wars in good dramas are always fantastic to be a part of. i wasn't a member at suki yet, but there was a rather large war at AN too.

But shipping war also makes some people cannot see the whole picture of this story. Not to mention it requires a lot of inference/interpretations to understand True Tears...(the most interesting part XD)

[DragoZERO]

But shipping war also makes some people cannot see the whole picture of this story. Not to mention it requires a lot of inference/interpretations to understand True Tears...(the most interesting part XD)
I agree. The shipping might have clouded some people, preventing them from enjoying the whole series. But I'm sure they had fun shipping the whole time. :heh:

[totoum]

Figure I might as well include this part of Okada Mari's intervie (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4381481&postcount=255)w here:

-- (Laughs) You were in charge of 5 series compositions in 2008.

Okada - Yes, 5. 5 was big. In true tears, it's very important to me that Nishimura Junji[6] and Morita Mayumi joined as scriptwriters. Until then, I had done series composition in a few productions, but never had I worked with such crazy episode writers like them (Laughs).

-- I see.

Okada - They did a violent thing to me. I thought, "At this rate, the show's going to fail," and said a severe thing to them. I irritated easily back them. There was a point for TT to go well, but their scripts didn't fit in the point. No matter how long an order I sent to them, something was completely off though they wrote along the order. They tried again and again. In spite of being a veteran director, Nishimura was writing with sincerity and I felt his enthusiasm for "writing something like this" and I was touched by that. It's significant to meet with Morita. She wrote very fresh scripts, which made me think it didn't depend on a writer's age. She agreed to my many demands to improve. What is more, even when I said "Improve only this point", she rewrote the whole script. I thought "She messed things up again," and got very irritated yet happy. When I think about the two of them, to be honest, I want to cry at times.

-- So, the violent thing they did was that they wrote something different from you order?

Okada - That's right. I would think I don't want to spoil their characteristics. I figured out how to manage to make the most of their characteristics and ordered them to do this, but they wrote something completely different again. It's sort of like "what was that trouble of mine?" So TT was considerably changed from the series composition at the beginning. There were stories I wanted to write, but I resolved to change the composition so they could do their best. So the ending was changed too. It's sort of like they wrote these, which could mean only one thing.

-- In an extreme case, was the person the protagonist goes out with at the end changed?

Okada - That is what happened.


Looks like there was an epic shipping war even within the staff :p

[relentlessflame]

Looks like there was an epic shipping war even within the staff :pWell, lest it be interpreted too broadly, this is at the planning and scriptwriting stages where the story is still in flux, so no doubt they experimented with many different paths for the story until settling on the one they landed on. I'm just waiting now for someone to say "see, they were all set to end one way, and at the last minute they totally swapped scripts and completely changed the ending out of nowhere -- give us the real ending!" :heh: But it is always interesting to get insight into the creative process at the root of so many shows. I think one of the big strengths of True Tears is the good "series composition" (the way elements brought up at the beginning of the show develop and have relevance later on in a sort of symmetry), and it's rather impressive that the author was able to achieve that despite the fact that the actual details were subject to so many revisions. But I guess that means that it really was a team effort the whole way through, and they collectively produced good work.

[Westlo]

If anything it shows that people who were saying the script/story was leaning to Hiromi were right and people who implied it didn't were wrong. Okada realized that the way things were set in stone meant a certAin ending had to take place, even if different from what she originally envisioned.

So all that crap me and the other Hiromi shippers typed back than was validated, I was never more confident in a pairing than this show....

[Kimidori]

just completed this, was supporting Hiromi from start to end :D. hated Noe. :mad:

[Westlo]

just completed this, was supporting Hiromi from the start to end :D. hated Noe. :mad:

In my best Denzel voice... "My man"

[DragoZERO]

Yes, Hiromi was awesome. I didn't hate Noe, but I just liked Hiromi more.