Chapter 214 [Manga] Discussion [Archive]

hi no ken Jebus

2006-02-09, 08:54

This chapter is insane:heh: :eyespin: Lots of stuff happens in this including some familiar faces and return of my 2 favorite people:)
214 Immanent God Blues
Starts off with Ryuuken teaching that dork of Ishida. Scene switch to the Kurosaki home Yuzu is looking for Ichigo she doesn't find him and tells Isshin. Rukia doesn't know either where he went after last night. Flashback to the night before with Inoue healing her and then thanking her but Ichigo with that I suck for sucking expression he had last chapter. She tells him that it was her fault for getting caught by surprise and Ichigo still makes that face. Ichigo and Rukia talking about asking Urahara if there's something he can do about controlling his other self. Flashback ends and Rukia is looking for Ichigo. Scene switch to the school Inoue is worried because Ishida, Ichigo, and Chad are missing. On the school roof Hitsugaya is writing his report to SS when Rangiku shows up from behind covering his eyes and asking who is it. Hitsugaya talks about how the people they faught weren't vastrode or ajucas and even with his limit restriction they had problems fighting gillian class enemies.

Scene switch to Urahara's where Ururu is back to normal and Chad is asking Urahara to help him. Then it switches to Ichigo entering a warehouse and there he meets Hiyori:love: and Hirako:love: along with the Vaizard squad. And chapter ends with Hirako saying that look on your face says you made the decision to join us dumm dumm dumm:heh:

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I swear this goes into a "rescue" arc and I stop reading bleach:heh:

defrule

2006-02-09, 08:58

I'm surprised how many people here can actually read Japanese.

Gattzu

2006-02-09, 09:00

WTF? Is Ichigo meeting up with the Vaizadoo?

voldy18

2006-02-09, 09:36

I'm not surprised that Ichigo joins the Vaizards, maybe even because Uruhara advised him to.

carb

2006-02-09, 11:19

now we're getting somewhere! i wonder what the vaizards will teach ichigo..

M4rauder

2006-02-09, 12:33

Cool, I like where this is going... hopefully we'll get some good info on Ichigo's hollow during his training. I wonder if Aizen knows about the Vaizards or that they're trying to recruit Ichigo?

Gattzu

2006-02-09, 12:46

I really like were the manga is heading, plus it looks like Sado is asking Urahara for training to become stronger? I don't know Japanese so it's just a quess.

gianna

2006-02-09, 14:00

I have never *needed* a full raw chapter scan so badly.
I LOVE Ryuuken and Uryuu and am ecstatic to finally see them again.

Kaka

2006-02-09, 14:34

I really like were the manga is heading, plus it looks like Sado is asking Urahara for training to become stronger? I don't know Japanese so it's just a quess.
yeah

indeed, chado needs to get stronger
he had not been very helpful in the past :heh:

Varis

2006-02-09, 15:08

Hmm, the Vaizards don't seem to be bad guys really. Perhaps they are outcasts and have a grudge or something against SS, yet I still see them as something positive.

Kona

2006-02-09, 15:24

Pretty good chapter. Not what i expected at all. Ok first of all it seems like ishida just started his training and i thought his training has already started in the past hmm. Chad gets training from urahara, where is tatsuki?, yourichi needs to train her since they both do martial arts. Ichigo all of a sudden finds the vaizard orginazation while urahara and isshin been trying to find em. The place the vaizards are at looks exactly like the ryodan from HunterxHunter.

SuperKnuckles

2006-02-09, 16:05

So what's going to happen now?

Maybe Ichigo will join up with the Vaizards so that he can utilize his dark Ichigo side instead of constantly fighting it?

And maybe the Vaizard side isn't the same as the Arankars of Aizen's? Or maybe all of this is a double agent switch against Ichigo? hmm.

Sety

2006-02-09, 16:51

Or maybe we can make things more interesting by corrupting Ichigo and making him the badguy and having Ishida save the day!

yuchan

2006-02-09, 20:06

I swear this goes into a "rescue" arc and I stop reading bleach:heh:
Who's gonna get rescued? I'm glad chad wil hopefully get stronger. He's my fave character but he was simply is not strong enough to compete now and hasn't been for a while. At first orihime was getting on my nerves cause she kept getting in the way in this arc. Now ichigo is getting on my damn nerves with his i'm not strong enough crap.

DwArD

2006-02-10, 04:01

Huh? Ichigo gonna join the Vaizards? Hmm....I won't say its a bad choice, but its not a good choice either. But seriously, I too feel that Ichigo should join them too. I'm sure even Urahara can't do much about Ichigo's current situation so its better to let the Vaizards 'help' Ichigo.

-KarumA-

2006-02-10, 05:21

Ichigo joining the Vizards omg
i cant untill the raw version is out then

as everyone, i think he should join them, maybe they can seperate Ichogo's darkr other half from him or atleased supres it even more

just like Hiyori told him before he'll eventually lose controll over it, this may also be a reason for him to join them

i wonder what will happen

i aore the arc theyre in now, a lot of thing are happening right now ^^

RX79GMCustom

2006-02-10, 11:12

it would be cool twist if the vaizard captain is isshin and ichigo is special bec. he's a 'pure blood'. you just know urahara and isshin are somehow connected to them.

physics223

2006-02-10, 12:05

With Bleach, anything's possible. :)

I do hope resolution will continue rather than having another set of fights again.

Mirtual

2006-02-10, 12:55

I am ok with Ichigo koining those hollow/shinigami bastards, but I hope this will not end in a rescue arc or a convert Ichigo back to the right side thing.

I am a little curious to see what is going to be made about the obvious lack of power of the Shinigami to make them even with their enemies.

I really hope Ishida does not end up as a second class support character.

Illuyankas

2006-02-10, 13:01

Isn't Isida's training the same as Ichigo dodging Ururu's attacks?

-KarumA-

2006-02-10, 13:15

i wonder if Ichigo will then get a hole in his chst and a half mask :P would look cool

physics223

2006-02-10, 18:50

It would look cooler if he had a third release (reserved only for Vaizards).

Zu Ra

2006-02-10, 19:15

Awesome if Ichi learns how to control the clone hollow inside him his powers will be magnamour to xth degreee.Ichigo has the most powerful clown hollow among his peers the Vizzard due to his reatsu. If he master how to render the clown hollow to his own manipulation he maybe the Strongest Shingami around without resp To Aizen,Gin,Tosen

Kaka

2006-02-10, 21:35

Isn't Isida's training the same as Ichigo dodging Ururu's attacks?
probably not
it doesn't look like his soul got "poked" out like what urahara did to ichigo

emessen

2006-02-11, 00:45

i wonder if Ichigo will then get a hole in his chst and a half mask :P would look cool

he'd have to have been a hollow first

Vizards dont have holes in their chest and have whole masks that aren't stuck to them somewhere

Arrancar have holes and a piece of broken mask somewhere on their head region

HeavyYeti

2006-02-11, 10:41

Yep, only the Arrancars have the wholes in their chests, as they were originally Hollows.
The Vaizards were originally Shinigami.

Oh, and hello guys! My first post here on the forums.:D

I want to see Ishida in action. I couldn't see it, but is he using the Quincy Cross? Remember, the flashback to his grandfather's "pendant"...with so much emphasis, it must be one hell of a weapon.

peter2004

2006-02-11, 13:46

Now when did Rukia and the others find out about his other self i don't recall him telling Rukia about his hollow side, if he dd what chapter.:upset:

Illuyankas

2006-02-11, 14:48

We can only assume that Byakuya told them before they came to the human world.

EliteF22

2006-02-11, 19:26

physics223

2006-02-11, 20:26

That's practically also the reason why he can't use bankai well. One of his shows of power, the Black Getsuga Tenshou, is the one the hollow can only use well. (See Byakuya v. Ichigo fight)

In the end, he must rein in his hollow or become totally one himself. So he went to the Vaizards ... duh ... :)

emessen

2006-02-11, 21:49

i'm glad and all for ichigo seeking out the Vizards... otherwise they serve no purpose

Komataguri

2006-02-11, 21:52

Matsumoto's boobs are bigger tha chibi-chans head. o_O;;

physics223

2006-02-12, 00:06

She has the biggest boobs in Bleach. I wonder what her bust sizes are. Could they be F? G? H? lol

-KarumA-

2006-02-12, 07:32

he'd have to have been a hollow first

Vizards dont have holes in their chest and have whole masks that aren't stuck to them somewhere

Arrancar have holes and a piece of broken mask somewhere on their head region

aah lol forgot that , sumimasen :heh:

Komataguri

2006-02-12, 11:27

She has the biggest boobs in Bleach. I wonder what her bust sizes are. Could they be F? G? H? lol

She could feed a small impoverished nation.

...But I should *test* them first, yes...test...for hours...mmnn...

Giovone

2006-02-12, 12:23

I think Chad will probably unlock full body armour and probably that sword they were talking about in chapter 198.

Arti

2006-02-12, 15:32

I think Chad will probably unlock full body armour and probably that sword they were talking about in chapter 198.
Interesting idea...I thought it was just a joke like everyone else probably did, but it would be cool if Kubo Tite foreshadowed it in the form of Keigo and Asano messing around.

fettel

2006-02-12, 20:34

What was especially poignant this chapter, is that Ichigo's eyes were slowly changing black. He can barely keep his hollow at bay. We got a glimpse of Tatsuki when roll was being called at school, but that's it. I would like to know if the Vazairds use gigai's to walk around. If they don't, does that mean that their zankpaktous are visible to everyone?

I think the Vizards might use gigai, but when Ichigo went to meet them in the warehouse, it looked like they had their swords out. maybe because they aren't full shinigami they dont need gigai. besides, i think after the gillian fight and the captains lifting their limits, mostly everyone important at the school can see the shinigami and hollow and stuff. though its unknown as to whether these people will gain powers like inoue and chad. hmmm.

Awesome if Ichi learns how to control the clone hollow inside him his powers will be magnamour to xth degreee.Ichigo has the most powerful clown hollow among his peers the Vizzard due to his reatsu. If he master how to render the clown hollow to his own manipulation he maybe the Strongest Shingami around without resp To Aizen,Gin,Tosen

we dont yet know how strong the vizard are. they do have a third release for their zanpakutou and all. but i think once ichigo can control his hollow, he will eventually become stronger. he does have his dad, and the other vizards to train him. he will need it, cuz Tousen alone could probably kill Grimjaw with ease. I mean, he sliced the guys arm off without really breakin a sweat, then burned it up. cant wait for the anime to get back on track and into the arrancar arc. oh yeah baby!

tzia_n

2006-02-12, 20:37

seems like there are only a few vizzards, just 8 of them i think...

physics223

2006-02-12, 20:45

She could feed a small impoverished nation.

...But I should *test* them first, yes...test...for hours...mmnn...

Hey! I was first. She's mine. *suckles, chortles, and burbles* :heh:

And she was surprised when Hitsugaya guessed it was her. All he needed to know was how thick the 'cushion' was. Surely it couldn't be Orihime, as hers is smaller. Only Kuukaku could compare, but she wasn't in the real world either...

Hitsugaya is either a eunuch or is in love with Aizen himself. Kinda like the love of Quentin Compson (The Sound and the Fury) with the idea of incest, not the act itself.
I mean, WHO IN THE WORLD would not like having a 'partner' like that. Plus, Matsumoto is on high-libido most of the time, so ... ... ...

Komataguri

2006-02-12, 21:19

Hey! I was first. She's mine. *suckles, chortles, and burbles* :heh:

And she was surprised when Hitsugaya guessed it was her. All he needed to know was how thick the 'cushion' was. Surely it couldn't be Orihime, as hers is smaller. Only Kuukaku could compare, but she wasn't in the real world either...

Hitsugaya is either a eunuch or is in love with Aizen himself. Kinda like the love of Quentin Compson (The Sound and the Fury) with the idea of incest, not the act itself.
I mean, WHO IN THE WORLD would not like having a 'partner' like that. Plus, Matsumoto is on high-libido most of the time, so ... ... ...

He is also a child.

we don't even know if he has reached puberty yet XD

physics223

2006-02-12, 21:48

You know he's in love with Hinamori, and you know that love is not the puppy kind. Plus, he may appear to be only 9-10, but in reality is more than 50 years old. That's too much time for maturation ... I think when that time comes in my life, my stick will become limp... :heh:

Varis

2006-02-13, 18:49

not to worry, when the time time comes "the rock" will switch to autopilot and everything works out. You can only stall the engine when you get all worried and mess around with things that will work out fine normally.

Just make sure you are on the right track :)

I think Hitsu and Hina are a great couple. She just needs to get over Aizen. She basically lived and breathed for his sake. Aizen not only disapeared, he also happend to stab her "back" (I know it was the front heh). That's some seriously rude awakening.

Imagine you are in a apartement with a really super low rent. Nice place, good people around you, no breaking into your car and stuff. Everything works out fine until the day you find movies and pictures of you on the net. (on the sites that won't go away when you click them off)
You check it out and realize that the big mirror in your bathroom was also a window. Your friend, parents and other relatives are making big bucks off your vids. You then realize what you thought was spam on your e-mail account, is actually fan mail from the male "special" community.

This too will take a while to recover from, so give Hinamori some time to get back on her feet and hook up with Hitsu.

Kona

2006-02-13, 19:30

My predictions for the next chapter
-Ichigo meets the vizard members and talks to them
-Ishida training with his father and keep continuing the dodging then they go to something else
-urahara trains chad
-Hitsugaya sends his report and SS is shocked and it goes to central 46 and we get to see the guard and king and see what they do
-End of chapter the vaizards tell ichigo how to tame his hollow

HeavyYeti

2006-02-14, 01:18

So, how many of you can guess on what the Quincy Cross will look like when in bow form? I bet pretty awesome indeed...I really like the Quincy story/background, and I wish Kubo would go into it more. Huge potential here...buy hey, knowing him, he'll use it 15 chapters from now, after we completely forget about it.

Novarain

2006-02-14, 03:31

I'm wondering what the Vaizards want with Ichigo... I don't think they're evil and their definitely not Arrancar...

This is gonna be interesting...

Uh_huh

2006-02-14, 09:52

I can't wait to see Chad's growth after he has trained with Urahara, he's going to so badass. xD

Komataguri

2006-02-14, 12:10

I really don't want Chad to get full body armor.

That would be so reminiscent of s-CRY-ed and be stupid to boot.

M4rauder

2006-02-14, 13:10

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Chad's abilities are very similar to the Arrankar that we've seen? His armor seems like their Shikai (though not complete yet), and he can create hollow-like blasts from his fists...

1.0.7.

2006-02-14, 13:22

Komataguri

2006-02-14, 20:34

how wern't the vaizards ever detected by soul society?
you guys think aizen & co. are vaizards? i doubt it though..
and i don't think its so bad that ichigo decides to join up with the vaizards.. as long as he hgets 'him' under control
i never knew rangiku had a tattoo on her left breast :p

Tattoo? Sure you ain't talking about the seal that keeps their power low to not influence the human world?

And maybe the Vaizards created no havok, so there was no need to interfer with them... Unlike the quincies, who interfeared by destroying the balance of souls

physics223

2006-02-15, 06:25

Chad will probably become a shinigami; he'll probably channel all of the force of his right arm of the giant into his sword ... but this is my guess ... or Urahara has something to help even better Chad. :)

fremeer

2006-02-15, 10:53

im seeing chad get some kidou, some extra speed(at least captain speed) and maybe arm changes. ichigo might go through a training session with each viazard or something or they will help him get his hollow side under control.

physics223

2006-02-15, 11:11

I don't think Hina will hook up with Hitsu. He's younger than her ... that's not really normal in society. (ours anyway)

vDrag0n

2006-02-15, 14:04

I don't think Hina will hook up with Hitsu. He's younger than her ... that's not really normal in society. (ours anyway)

our society as in north american? That would mean nothing really.. think about it, it's a manga...

i say if they don't hook up, it'd be for different reasons...

weiwei

2006-02-15, 15:39

Anh_Minh

2006-02-15, 17:22

Maybe Hitsugaya just isn't into big breasts. Or maybe he'd like someone a bit more serious as his gf. He seems very serious himself.

physics223

2006-02-15, 17:27

i was wondering, how come vizards cannot be detected by anncar, since even a captain or VC can keep their reitsu low, but those anncar still detect them... i dunno, is that mean vizard has some kind of power that they can hide their reitsu perfectly?

I think this comes naturally to them because they are also semi-hollows. What I mean is that they can show their reiatsu to be hollow reiatsu so as not to be detected as shinigami. I think ...