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Well Onigiri just released episode 17,was very good just like all the rest.Although i wish we could have seen more of Gau in rage mode.The definetly have some of the best and agonizing cliffhangers out there,aside from Condor Hero.I'll wait awhile until i start discussing this heavily sense it was just released.
I liked gau in the beginning, but he has turned into a strong, thickheaded, emotionally unstable and not very bright vaar. I hope scarface's plans work out for him
Dragon Flame
2003-11-06, 14:15
hum... for some reason episode 17 was all freaky for me, did they switch to some sort of new codec? cuz i kept getting all this weird choppy, blocky-ness, like on an old Nintendo
whatever123
2003-11-06, 21:26
well i love this show it really has a very nice presentation of how a warrior should live and seeks strengh and also how they have pride in their arts (i just love martial art language in this series a real adrenalin rush)
MantisShadow
2003-11-10, 13:33
Recently I watched the 1st ep of Shadow Skill and I was sorely disappointed, it just didn't hold up to the standard of the OVA.
But I'm wondering is it a series which gets better with more eps?
Recently I watched the 1st ep of Shadow Skill and I was sorely disappointed, it just didn't hold up to the standard of the OVA.
But I'm wondering is it a series which gets better with more eps?
IN my opinion it gets much better with each passing episode.The actio picks up the story develops more,its just all around a perfect series in my eyes.
MantisShadow
2003-11-10, 14:31
IN my opinion it gets much better with each passing episode.The actio picks up the story develops more,its just all around a perfect series in my eyes.
What about the actual animation quality? With the OVA the thing that impressed me apart from the colours was the real fluid movement.
I'll probably get it anyway, starting to run out of things to watch.
What about the actual animation quality? With the OVA the thing that impressed me apart from the colours was the real fluid movement.
I'll probably get it anyway, starting to run out of things to watch.
As you probably know there arent many TV series that can match up with OVA:s or movies when it comes to animation quality. But aside from that, the story in the TV series is way better than that of the OVA or the movie. I really liked this series when I watched a looong time ago. Although I think the character design could get a bit wierd at times, mainly Gau's eyes and that other bad guys eyes seems to get bigger and bigger and in the later eps they just look wierd. But maybe thats just me. ;)
I have watched the series about 2-3 years ago. I don't remember much about it now. But the only thing that really bothers me is the series seems to be with a great beginning then later decided to cut it short. That's of unexplained storyline.
By the way, I don't like GAU later in the series either. don't really remember the detail as why I don't like him. I guess it's something about his attitude........
Relentless
2003-11-10, 23:53
Recently I watched the 1st ep of Shadow Skill and I was sorely disappointed, it just didn't hold up to the standard of the OVA.
But I'm wondering is it a series which gets better with more eps?
You're talking about to the first OVA, I suppose? The 45 min. one that explains the birth of the Shadow Skills, who created them and why they use leg technics. It's still my standard to judge other action/martial arts anime.
The following three 30 min. OVA were rather bad to awful with completely different and uglier animation (they were made by other studio).
Sadly, the TV series' animation looks more like these OVA than the first. I remember having watched it a few years ago. It has a nice story but really inconclusive and focuses more on Gau. I was hoping it would take us to the beginning of the first OVA.
chichiri
2003-12-11, 06:26
Is anybody working on this series?? I just started watching it, and I think its awesome. I haven't really haven't gotten into anime before, until I started watching this series. Well didn't mean to nag or anything, just a little curious.
thx
NoSanninWa
2003-12-11, 06:33
Then don't nag. All the information that you should need to satisfy your curiosity is right here (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/172.html). Asking for anything else is nagging.
Zippy-DSM
2004-01-01, 12:00
chichiri
yes RB errr onigiri is working on it they seem to do one a month ^^
I realy love the TV show altho I bet the ending is depressing >< and no spoilers if you know :P
the OVAs where odd but ok.
anyone know what the "movie" is?
I saw this awhile back and I liked it at the beginning but not the end. Not spoiling anything for anyone. The series doesn't wrap up anything. I think the OVA does a lil. Anyway, dislike Gau b/c dude kept on getting up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up AND UP AND UP. Sorry, but it start to annoy me when seeing someone suppose to be weak and had load of potential to become really stronger. All of a certain is freaking strong. Especially when Elly, forgot her name at the moment, suppose to be stronger than Gau for the next 4 yr ,I think. Couldn't handle an evil cevaar punch while Gau handled all 6 of that cevaar, suppose to be deadly, attack. Kept on getting up after getting knock down 1,2,3,4,5,6.... G......anyway, Dias make me not hate the series for such cliffhanger and quite a few annoying brat, the triangle. :)
So I'm waiting for some other anime series and I decide to checkout this "Shadow Skill" in the meantime.
There are some pretty badass fight scenes and some interesting characters with a lot of potential if they had more character development, but I must say that some of the reasons for the fights don't make any damn sense.
For instance, I just watched episode 21....
Dias dies prettymuch for nothin. I realize he was gonna die eventually and he was saving Gau, but this entire fight was worthless cuz it wasn't even for anything. No one had any motivations to fight. We all realize what a mega badass Dias is and then he gets to die during Gau's training session. The whole time I was thinkin, wayda go Scarface...
Oh yeah, and going back a few episodes...can anyone tell me how Gau beat "G" when Elle couldn't even lay a hand on him?
There seems to be alot of instances in this series where you're just like, what the hell?
edit *I tried to fix the spoiler tags but oh well..
Mr_Paper
2004-04-20, 09:22
That's a massive SPOILER!!!
... Despite getting three quarters of it wrong.
Get rid of the spaces between the brackets!!
/me summons a mod in a hurry!
Okay... I'll explain episode 21.
Dias dies prettymuch for nothin. I realize he was gonna die eventually and he was saving Gau, but this entire fight was worthless cuz it wasn't even for anything. No one had any motivations to fight. We all realize what a mega badass Dias is and then he gets to die during Gau's training session. The whole time I was thinkin, wayda go Scarface...
Oh yeah, and going back a few episodes...can anyone tell me how Gau beat "G" when Elle couldn't even lay a hand on him?Actually Dias doesn't die for nothing. He died saving Gau, which in itself is wonderful. Dias' death is used to show Gau what true power is, the will to never give up and overcome any odds. It is also used to show us why Scarface and everyone else treats him as a Sevaar, even on the verge of death he would face an opponent such as Darkness, then, even after death, he would defy and defeat him. The purpose of the fight is to show us, the audience, exactly how strong Dias is, even in a weakened state, and subsequintly how strong Gau can become if he fights as a 'shield' for another.
Noone had any motivations to fight? Gau had 'win or die' as his motivation, a pretty good motivation. If he wasn't able to overcome his fear of death as he had done as a child when his village was attacked and defeat Darkness he would die, plain and simple. Dias' motivation was basically to save Gau, duh. Elle fought, without any noticable effect, to save Gau as well.
I guess you could call it a training session of sorts... Scarface did get Darkness to trick then fight Gau for the purpose of teaching him to overcome his now latent fear of death after the fight with G. Scarface is doing all this for a reason, a good one that you'll learn about later. Dias was going to die soon so Scarface, being his friend, gave him one last fight believing it wouldn't be fitting for a man who lived through one fight after the other to die in his bed.
Now, as to haw Gau beat G... G's fighting style is pretty narrow minded. He'd defeat all his opponents in seven blows or less not because he could, but because he had to. It's true Elle didn't land one hand one him, but if the fight had continued she might have actually beat him. As Gau pointed out during the fight, "Althought the first blow was very powerful the following blows became weaker with each one." G was only strong enough to make the first blow incredibly powerful, after that he became progressively weaker and easy to beat. Gau beat him with stamina and will power, seven blows are meaningless if you can't beat your opponent in that many.
Master Ran
2004-04-20, 09:39
So I'm waiting for some other anime series and I decide to checkout this "Shadow Skill" in the meantime.
Oh yeah, and going back a few episodes...can anyone tell me how Gau beat "G" when Elle couldn't even lay a hand on him?
G lost because of
Time Limit or more precisely, limited power punch. :)
Master Ran :heh: :heh:
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Master_Ran/bird.gif
That's a massive SPOILER!!!
... Despite getting three quarters of it wrong.
Get rid of the spaces between the brackets!!
/me summons a mod in a hurry!
Okay... I'll explain episode 21.
Actually Dias doesn't die for nothing. He died saving Gau, which in itself is wonderful. Dias' death is used to show Gau what true power is, the will to never give up and overcome any odds. It is also used to show us why Scarface and everyone else treats him as a Sevaar, even on the verge of death he would face an opponent such as Darkness, then, even after death, he would defy and defeat him. The purpose of the fight is to show us, the audience, exactly how strong Dias is, even in a weakened state, and subsequintly how strong Gau can become if he fights as a 'shield' for another.
Noone had any motivations to fight? Gau had 'win or die' as his motivation, a pretty good motivation. If he wasn't able to overcome his fear of death as he had done as a child when his village was attacked and defeat Darkness he would die, plain and simple. Dias' motivation was basically to save Gau, duh. Elle fought, without any noticable effect, to save Gau as well.
I guess you could call it a training session of sorts... Scarface did get Darkness to trick then fight Gau for the purpose of teaching him to overcome his now latent fear of death after the fight with G. Scarface is doing all this for a reason, a good one that you'll learn about later. Dias was going to die soon so Scarface, being his friend, gave him one last fight believing it wouldn't be fitting for a man who lived through one fight after the other to die in his bed.
Now, as to haw Gau beat G... G's fighting style is pretty narrow minded. He'd defeat all his opponents in seven blows or less not because he could, but because he had to. It's true Elle didn't land one hand one him, but if the fight had continued she might have actually beat him. As Gau pointed out during the fight, "Althought the first blow was very powerful the following blows became weaker with each one." G was only strong enough to make the first blow incredibly powerful, after that he became progressively weaker and easy to beat. Gau beat him with stamina and will power, seven blows are meaningless if you can't beat your opponent in that many.
You always amaze me with your wisdom and insight :bow: I think that you are so correct in that spoiler. I couldn't word it any better. I do need to get the OVA so I have some background info though, it's licenced so it should be somewhere out there to buy. I'm curious about the end of of this. What's going on between Gau and Elle? Is she seeing him as more of a potential love interest or realizing that her younger brother is growing up?
That's a massive SPOILER!!!
... Despite getting three quarters of it wrong.
Get rid of the spaces between the brackets!!
/me summons a mod in a hurry!
Okay... I'll explain episode 21.
Actually Dias doesn't die for nothing. He died saving Gau, which in itself is wonderful. Dias' death is used to show Gau what true power is, the will to never give up and overcome any odds. It is also used to show us why Scarface and everyone else treats him as a Sevaar, even on the verge of death he would face an opponent such as Darkness, then, even after death, he would defy and defeat him. The purpose of the fight is to show us, the audience, exactly how strong Dias is, even in a weakened state, and subsequintly how strong Gau can become if he fights as a 'shield' for another.
Noone had any motivations to fight? Gau had 'win or die' as his motivation, a pretty good motivation. If he wasn't able to overcome his fear of death as he had done as a child when his village was attacked and defeat Darkness he would die, plain and simple. Dias' motivation was basically to save Gau, duh. Elle fought, without any noticable effect, to save Gau as well.
I guess you could call it a training session of sorts... Scarface did get Darkness to trick then fight Gau for the purpose of teaching him to overcome his now latent fear of death after the fight with G. Scarface is doing all this for a reason, a good one that you'll learn about later. Dias was going to die soon so Scarface, being his friend, gave him one last fight believing it wouldn't be fitting for a man who lived through one fight after the other to die in his bed.
Now, as to haw Gau beat G... G's fighting style is pretty narrow minded. He'd defeat all his opponents in seven blows or less not because he could, but because he had to. It's true Elle didn't land one hand one him, but if the fight had continued she might have actually beat him. As Gau pointed out during the fight, "Althought the first blow was very powerful the following blows became weaker with each one." G was only strong enough to make the first blow incredibly powerful, after that he became progressively weaker and easy to beat. Gau beat him with stamina and will power, seven blows are meaningless if you can't beat your opponent in that many.
First off, thanks for the explanations.
My gripe was that all that stuff went down for Gaus training. I felt like none of that stuff "had" to happen, thus there was a lack of realistic motivation for the fights. I'm still at ep21 so yeah, I have yet to find out the siginificance of that training in the future. Not to be sarcastic, but I guess Scarface is a genius then if he was able to orchestrate everything that happened in that ep...
Alright, i just watched episode 23, and I do believe Gau boy is a little shaken up since his experience in ep22. I think that the boy seriously screwed up by not completing his mission. Maybe it will all work out and Elle won't beat his ass for it. She did look a little pissed at the end taking out the main gates, but I guess she needed to charge up in order to do that. Gau could've at least fought that one guy instead of just watching. I'm kind of interested how this will turn out now.
wow- this show is pretty sweet. I'm surprised it isn't more popular. I must say, though, sometimes the characters faces look a little screwed up (only complaint)
Budweineken
2004-05-02, 08:23
Yeah, I'm also surprised that it isnt more popular... it may have been at it's time, but right now not many people talk about it....
Episode 23 was awesome... I'm glad onigiri is back to work
One question... was the policy in talking about new episodes without spoiler tags... how long should we wait before discussing without spoiler tags?
One question... was the policy in talking about new episodes without spoiler tags... how long should we wait before discussing without spoiler tags?
That's the one thing I'm not sure on. However, not everyone will be up to date on any one series, but they may still want to know what others have to say. I think just to be safe...use them. That's my take on it.
|)arK_Nin
2004-05-02, 10:34
They have an IRC bot where I can catch this series?
They have an IRC bot where I can catch this series?here's what I found from google -> onigiri irc-> http://a.scarywater.net/onigiri/
google's a nice tool :) This is the main page for BT with a link for irc and forum.
or
go to where the person directly below me typed could quite possibly be alot better than mine.
Budweineken
2004-05-02, 23:02
go to rizon and #onigiri
the ss pool in arisa has all the released episodes
Mr_Paper
2004-05-03, 14:51
They have an IRC bot where I can catch this series?Beware... Some XDCC bots will ban download/leecher bots if that's that you're using.
I watched the first ep of shadow skill, then stopped when they started animating the fights with 2 frames of the actual action and 12 frames of showing kanji letters.
I watched the first ep of shadow skill, then stopped when they started animating the fights with 2 frames of the actual action and 12 frames of showing kanji letters.
I'd say give it another chance. Yea...the martial arts language sequences are..."unique" but that's only when they use it. Don't let 3-5 seconds of kanji kill the 20 something minutes of story for you.
Budweineken
2004-05-03, 21:30
I watched the first ep of shadow skill, then stopped when they started animating the fights with 2 frames of the actual action and 12 frames of showing kanji letters.
In later episodes... the kanji sequences are not as abundant... so definitely dont let that stop you from watching this
Ok...just saw this and it doesn't exactly tell you much. Like Shadow Skill fashion it's another cliffhanger type ending. You get to see some red-head summoner chick who looks like she's on crack. You get to see the back of Lunar's head but you don't get to see her face. She kind of looks like a 14 yr old girl from her outline. It still doesn't explain who the guy is who likes playing w/ his balls. Ep25 looks like it will be more interesting than this one. Oh yeah, you get to another glimpse of how Elle feels towards Gau. This was probably the best scene in this episode and how it lead into it. With 2 eps left it makes me wonder if they'll close some things up, leave them open for a possible 2nd season, or just leave them open for speculation.
I'm gonna be sad when it's finally done. Can't say that Shadow Skill is one of my favorites, but I do experience a moment of glee when a new release is put out.
The animation is old-school in style and fits the series pretty well. A 2nd season would be great as there's quite a big world out there to be explored.
It was a great series,im definetly glad i stayed with this one, regardless of how long it took to see all of it.Thank you R-B and Onigiri for doing this series. I wont tell anyone how it ends, just watch for yourself, its a pretty sweet ep.
Now that thats finished next on my wish list has got to be Condor Hero for completion.Im willing to wait but i get sad when i dont have a new fix.
ok i youst saw the last eps and i em still wondering what happens to the bad guy the is lau-san gang the has 2 balls in his hand and his always in the dark
DeluxSkillz
2004-07-16, 08:15
ah yes this was great though not as great as the movie and the OVA's the animation on those is top notch and almost no anime can compete now a days, i really liked this serie because i was a big fan of the movie and the OVA's and after looking past the crappy animation(at times) i found this anime to be very pleasing
quikimpulse
2004-09-25, 23:11
Well i didn't see anyone else who has made a thread for this anime. If there is then the M.O.Ds will move it. Anyway I am currently watching this and it is somewhat different from the ovas. Anyway i just wanted to hear your opinions of the series. So plz post here.
Mr_Paper
2004-09-26, 03:26
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=298
It's a good series, I love it. Lots of character development, excellent fight scenes (some of the best) and above all... it's fun to watch.
Well i didn't see anyone else who has made a thread for this anime. If there is then the M.O.Ds will move it. Anyway I am currently watching this and it is somewhat different from the ovas. Anyway i just wanted to hear your opinions of the series. So plz post here.
Here are a couple of clues to help you in the future.
Use the "search" feature, it's not that difficult to search for "Shadow Skill" (better yet, use "Advanced Search" and select "Search Titles Only").
Read the stickies, especially this one, Series Discussion Index (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=13483) (found in this very forum)
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