Second Term Episode 1 Discussion [Archive]

MrProphet

2006-04-02, 15:57

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So, I gather we can discuss it here, right?

Anyway, the first episode of the Second Season has aired. If you liked 1st season, you'll LOVE this. This is the same good ol' School Rumble, continued.

Not much has changed, as far as i can see and it is pretty much the same high quality comedy.

For those unfamiliar with the series, my best description of School Rumble is: Azumanga Daioh with plot and funnier. 8) This series has pretty much restored my faith in the romatic school comedies, so I eagerly await each new episode now.

As for the ep.1, it's the same shtick with 3 small stories about Tenma, Harima and others. Episode 1 is once again dedicated to Tenma's crush on Karasuma, Harima's crush on Tenma, Tenma's belief that Harima likes Yakumo, and both of their imaginations running wild!

And you know how their imaginations can get. 8)

The OP is "Sentimental Generation" by Ami Tokito, a very upbeat song in the same vein as last season's Scramble by Horie Yui. Although I liked Scramble better, this song is nice. Perky and fun and very catchy. 8)

The ED is "Kono Namida ga Arukara Tsugi no Ippo to Naru", again by Ami Tokito, a very nice slow song, again, in the vein of the 1st season's ED.

So, not much has changed, but it's the same good stuff. The cast and staff is pretty much unchanged as well.

hi no ken Jebus

2006-04-02, 15:58

:heh: I had a big post but damn forum ate it :heh: Well the new season is finally here. Starts at the beginning of volume 8 with some stuff moved around since it was used last season to make up the ending. Lots of the same hyperactive comedy from last season along with more Tenma:love:. I don't quite like the new OP and ED but not like I'll watch them ever again either. Anywho for this episode...

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/3774/sr2nd014of.th.jpg (http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr2nd014of.jpg)

Scramble ga Reloaded
Itoko gives Harima the news that he won the dankousha prize he runs looking for Tenma to tell her about it. However he walks in on Tenma lecturing Yakumo for staying out with Harima. After hearing enough Harima tries to set things straight but ends up putting his feet further into his grave:heh:. He manages to fix things but he tells tenma he promises to make Yakumo happy.

Superstar ni request
After tenma settles the yakumo affair she goes to karasuma to see if she makes progress. The band is practicing for the culture festival and she dreams of going on tour with them and getting a record contract. Even in her dreams she fails:heh: Karasuma cheers her up by giving her a turtle. To which she doesn't understand the meaning behind of and spends the whole night trying to figure it out.

Scandalous na Restart
In the last mini ep Hanai finds out that Harima is "going out" Yakumo and is utterly shocked after finding out she spent the night at his house. Tenma planned for Yakumo to make Harima's lunch and give it to him in front of the whole class. And episode ends with 2-D coming to challenge them at the culture festival. Next week is what I have been waiting for:)

Ilpalazzo-sama

2006-04-02, 15:58

So the long awaited second season has arrived! For the beginning, here is a disclaimer for the topic, copied from the old one:

While none of the School Rumble anime series have been licensed yet, they are produced by MFI, therefore we won't be listing fansubs here on AnimeSuki. See Removal of Media Factory Inc. Works (http://www.animesuki.com/doc.php/legal/mediafactory.html) for details.

Since it is "restricted", the following posts are no longer allowed in this forum.

Asking where you can find School Rumble downloads or torrents.
Discussing School Rumble fansub groups (past or present).
Asking for help downloading School Rumble.
Asking for playback help for School Rumble episodes.
These rules applies to fansubs (in English or any other language) and raws alike.

This restriction applies to
School Rumble (first series)
School Rumble OVA
School Rumble (second series)

You still are allowed to discuss the anime, that has not changed but please remember to limit the discussion to the story. And of course, the School Rumble manga has been licensed by Del Rey (Personal note: Volume 1 is out)

There have been several mentions of fansub groups in the last few posts (which have now been deleted). Please take this as a warning since any more talk about fansub groups will lead to bans.

Let the discussion begin!

Ilpalazzo-sama

2006-04-02, 16:03

You beat me with a minute about posting the new topic :|

Anyway ep1 was really good...I didn't understand too much (I don't know too much japanese yet), but as much as I saw, it is really good, as good as season 1. The new OP/ED are really good as well, the Single with the OP is coming out on April 19th.

Omniscient

2006-04-02, 16:08

Episode 01 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/04/02/school-rumble-ni-gakki-01/)

The first episode is pretty hilarious, with the return of the crazy love polygon between all of the characters. The OP and ED are better than I had expected, but that's because I came in with rock-bottom expectations for them.

hi no ken Jebus

2006-04-02, 16:09

Episode 01 Screencaps (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/04/02/school-rumble-ni-gakki-01/)

The first episode is pretty hilarious, with the return of the crazy love polygon between all of the characters. The OP and ED are better than I had expected, but that's because I came in with rock-bottom expectations for them.

Yea:heh: I don't blame you. I mean I loved scramble and the other one but this one was ok I came in with no expectations. But who knows they may grow on me.

setsuka

2006-04-02, 16:11

BrokenWingz

2006-04-02, 16:48

Sooo looking forward to this :D
*must resist screencaps*

W-General

2006-04-02, 16:50

Just listening to the song, (just starting to check out this episode), the song sucks... :(
And the lyrics is totally ridiculous.

It pretty much picked up right after where the last season left off....at the beginning of volume 8.
They covered 7 volumes (although vol.7 was a bit rushed, but the OVA took care of that) in 26 eps. That means season 2 will probably cover just as much..., up to vol.14, although at the rate the manga is going, I seriously doubt that it'll finish by vol.14, but at least vol.14 should be released by October, when the anime ends this season. Maybe there's gonna be a third season :O j/k

MrProphet

2006-04-02, 16:59

This series is pretty much endless, they can go on for as long as they want. Remember the bogus ending of season 1 (with Karasuma as the alien)? They can easily do that every single season and still continue on and on with the same crack romantic sitcom. 8)

Personally, I can't get enough of ONEE-CHAN POWER, so it's fine with me. 8)

W-General

2006-04-02, 17:05

I suppose that's true. They're already padding it with anime-original materials, such as the 2-D's challenge for the culture festival. In the manga, only 2C did the Survival Game (my favorite part :D) Are they gonna add 2D folks in there? Or????? I can't wait :D :D :D

oh I'm totally enjoying the bonus part at the end. :D

Mentar

2006-04-02, 17:29

Good start into the new season ^_^

Seeing Yakumo's bentou from hell literally devastate both Harima and Hanai made my day!

FlyByNite

2006-04-02, 17:32

From the preview for the 2nd episode looks like the War game starts next week. Whooooooo! ;)

I wonder why they have Ami Tokito doing both the OP/ED? I would have liked another Horie Yui song

Circle

2006-04-02, 18:09

w00t, just watched ep1. It's nice that school rumble is easy enough to understand that a minimum knowledge of Japanese is enough to watch it raw. Funny as hell. :)

I thought the OP song is catchy and the ED song fits well too. I still like "Scramble" more though. But I do think Ami Tokito is cuter than Yui Horie, must be the glasses and her ^ ^ eyes. :-D

oDin01

2006-04-02, 20:12

Agreed the new OP and ED for Second Term isn't as great as the first season.

Going by the first episode it looks like we're going to see a lot of parts in the anime that wasn't in the manga. Not that I"m complaining but they better not cut out any of the Yakumo scenes like they did at the end of the previous series.

Was it just me or were those rainbow type backgrounds in some of the scenes very distracting. Talk about trying to cut production costs.

Tsukishirou

2006-04-03, 15:06

Laughed a lot at Ep.1 :heh: , just the OP and ED are sucky that´s all.

SWPIGWANG

2006-04-03, 15:18

*waits for culture fest............. XD

kj1980

2006-04-03, 15:30

Agreed the new OP and ED for Second Term isn't as great as the first season.

Well, that's kinda expected from a meganekko- idol Tokitou aMi ("a" is little hiragana) produced by Tsunku. ugh.

Pellissier

2006-04-03, 15:35

I don't agree on the matter that the OP sucks. Or better, I'd wait before stating it.
We have on our ears like one year and a half of Horie Yui & Scandal's "Scramble" (which is wonderful indeed), of course it's difficult to bow to a new song, that we have in the ears from one day or two.
I'd say to give time to "Sentimental Generation" (it's sung by a 18 years old J-Idol, Tokitou Ami - I thought she were a little older, by the voice), I'm quite liking it so far and I'm sure that listening and over listening to it, like it'll likely happen, will raise it's grade. I'd also say the Intro (meant as musicless sequence for season 1 was way better than this on the season 2, I particularly miss the - Tenma flowing on a cloud sequence - , but again, it's comparing something stuck in our memory against something brand new).
While the ED (always sung by Tokitou Ami) looks weaker, even though it's a different type of song, uncatchy and needs more to be understood. Sure Ogura Yuko's "Onna no ko Otoko no ko" was an impressive hit as well.

As for the episode, so far I've seen just the first minutes. I laughed in the beginning by seeing Tennouji, LOL, I guess he gained some weight in these months (like 100/200 tons :heh: )
Bur also from the gifs I'm seeing, it's clear SR 2 won't disappoint the fans. I only hope for the 26 episode formula. With all the potential they have, 13 would look kind of a waste.

Swampstorm

2006-04-03, 15:58

I don't agree on the matter that the OP sucks.
We have on our ears like one year and a half of Horie Yui & Scandal's "Scramble" (which is wonderful indeed), of course it's difficult to bow to a new song, that we have in the ears from one day or two.
I'd say to give time to "Sentimental Generation" (it's sung by a 18 years old J-Idol, Tokitou Ami - I thought she were a little older, by the voice), I'm quite liking it so far and I'm sure that listening and over listening to it, like it'll likely happen, will raise it's grade. I'd also say the Intro (meant as musicless sequence for season 1 was way better than this on the season 2, I particularly miss the - Tenma flowing on a cloud sequence - , but again, it's comparing something stuck in our memory against something brand new).

When you just listen to the two songs in isolation, they both have catchy tunes. For me, the problem that I'm having is with the OP sequence. Scramble fit with it's affiliated OP sequence - the lyrics matched what was happening on screen, making the song and the sequence work well together. With this OP sequence, the lyrics don't really match up in this way. It's like the song and the animation were just tossed together. Basically, it's the difference between an OP that you watch, and an OP that you want to watch. It's not really a big problem, though. I don't mind the ED sequence much either, but only because it's fun watching the animation of Eri's hair in the breeze. :)

Based on the pace that they're going at, they probably won't get anywhere with only 13 episodes. The rumor is based on a channel guide:
http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/822#47495

That being said, ep 13 isn't indicated as the "final" ep - it's only the last one known, at present. It's entirely possible that more entries will be added as the information becomes available. There isn't any official word on the total length of the series at present. No need to worry too much... yet.

Ah, the look that Eri gave Yakumo and Sara was absolutely brilliant. So many mixed emotions packed in there.

MrProphet

2006-04-03, 17:09

Tsunku does not equal Hello Project!

Even though he pushed Ami quite heavily as the "Akibakei aidoru", she isn't that bad or anything. It's just an image he created around her, and if you base your dislike around that fact alone, then you have completely bought Tsunku's hype.

Even though I liked Horie Yui's song better (and I agree with Swampstorm that it fit the video much better), it does not in any way mean that the current OP is bad.

I think the girl is cute, genki, she has a good voice and generally fits the atmosphere of the show. Same thing with the ending.

Decagon

2006-04-06, 00:03

Ah.. maybe I should start paying more attention to OP/EDs in anime since most of the discussion seems to be about them here :uhoh: .

The ep seemed kind of rushed in some places-- kind of like really fast pacing. I really like the original parts and how they redid some scenes, but sometimes the flow gets cut by the screen transitions. I guess it's something that could be attributed to the production team? A lot of cute Yakumo scenes though <3

Mentar

2006-04-06, 18:03

Swampstorm

2006-04-06, 18:11

Hmm... I feel that I need to raise a flag for the ED here. It's a really beautiful and melodical little song with interesting lyrics, and one of the few pieces which make me seriously consider ordering it on CD. Maybe I like it because it's so atypical to other anime OP/ED combos.

Anyway, glad to see the show rolling again :)

Kids meal forever!

Yeah, the melody and lyrics are fairly good on that song - you really need to listen to it until it starts to build in order to fully appreciate it. The only weakness that I see is in the animation clips in the early part of the sequence - the faceless thing throws me off at first. But that's minor.

DrewGSR

2006-04-06, 18:30

Blah the OP and ED are weak but other than that the episode was pretty damn funny. It gave me good laughs and im happy that SR is back. Hard to find good comedies as of late. Looking forward to te upcoming episodes.

KaneDragon

2006-04-06, 21:21

The OP is great, though I guess it really doesn't follow the video like the first. I found the first ED annoying, so this new ED is an improvement, but does such a calm song suit SR?

First ep was great. More love for Harima x Yakumo. ^^
But 2-D throwing down another challenge --> -_-;;

FlyByNite

2006-04-06, 21:31

Still waiting to hear Ichijou speak some to see how Mako sounds as her. Is it Mai Otome that caused the conflict since Yuuka was doing Nao in it?

Js2756

2006-04-06, 21:40

Woo! Lots of Yakumo in this episode, especially a lot of Yakumo x Harima moments. Although I do feel pretty bad for Eri, not only because of Harima, but because lack of screentime.

Swampstorm

2006-04-07, 00:43

Woo! Lots of Yakumo in this episode, especially a lot of Yakumo x Harima moments. Although I do feel pretty bad for Eri, not only because of Harima, but because lack of screentime.
Don't worry. Even though she appeared only a few times in this episode, every moment was important in building pathos for her character. She'll go through a very hard time for now, but when the time comes, I guarantee that you won't be feeling sorry. :D

Kyousuke

2006-04-07, 02:17

First episode was amazingly funny.

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DrewGSR

2006-04-07, 03:33

Though Harima x Yakumo is a hell of alot better than Tenma. I would have to go with the Eri x Harima crowd. Their chemistry together is friken hilarious

Wandering_Youth

2006-04-07, 06:18

Let the good times role, yeaaa! The first episode was very entertaining and hilarious.
Poor Harima and Hanai got the life sucked out of them near the end. It just me or Harima looking like a Roswell alien when he is mummified? I also see that they introduced a couple of new characters into the second season too. Now the funny yet weird part was near the end of anime, after the ending credits, where it showed all the pervs in the class meeting in secrecy. Man, they remind of those dark underground organizations in a lot of hentai anime where they hunt, capture, torture and sell girls to to the black market.

Sorrow-K

2006-04-07, 06:41

Ever since the end of the last season, I've had what I can only describe as extreme mixed feelings for School Rumble. On the one hand, I love the scathingly witty comedy and almost all of the characters. But, on the other hand I hate the fact that the story progresses at a snail's pace and that Tenma is used as a device to stall every single chance of any relationship progressing over and over and over again.

But when the comedy is as good as it was in the first episode, I don't mind so much. Anyway, I loved the first episode, and all of a sudden I think it's ok for me to love School Rumble again (since I fell out of love with it after the horribly mediocre OVA episodes). The plot progressed at a snail's pace again, but there was just something about this episode that refused to let me wipe the smile off my face. Maybe the comedy has improved slightly, or maybe it was just the fact that it's a new season... a chance to start anew and improve on the things that made SR great (the comedy and characters that aren't Tenma or Karasuma) and fix the flaws of the first season that slightly let it down. Either way there's no doubt that this series is back and in a good way (so far anyway), but it feels like there's something different about this season... something better... something that I can't quite put my finger on. Either that, or I'm just deluding myself with optimism.

The OP song I was indifferent about. I predict it'll be one of those songs I'll get used to with time, but probably won't care for too much. But I thought the ED song and ED sequence were really good.

Anyway, if nothing else, this first episode renewed my optimism about School Rumble. Fingers crossed that this will be another good season.

evil-samurai

2006-04-07, 08:51

I really!! like the opening song, the girl has a wonderfull! Voice, plus while I was watching the RAW.. they showed her in Real life singing it ^^ which brought me to even like the song even more :) Plus seeing a big room full of guys jumping up and down and swirling there fingers in the air was Priceless! :heh:

I havn't watch all the show yet, but I have to say I'm glad the show is back :) Harima and the other guys really make this show somthing special, and mixing them together with the girls provides alot! of laughs ^^ I dont think I ever have to doubt wether the show is going to turn out to be good or not, It just is! going to be great.

Swampstorm

2006-04-07, 09:05

D3athScythe

2006-04-07, 09:10

This series never ceases to make me laugh ^_^
The first episode was awesome and since I enjoyed the first season
I know I'd enjoy the rest of this season as well, can't wait for ep. 2

Forever

2006-04-07, 10:47

I laughed till i dropped! I cant remember when did I laughed so much these days! Simply fantastic to see my fav school rumble back! Time to change avatar!

All hail the return of school rumble and yakumo!

The OP wasnt too fantastic but I liked the ED.

philip72

2006-04-07, 11:31

I laughed so hard at one point, the milk I was drinking came out my nose, what an excellent start to a new season.

I'd forgotten just how funny and well written this show really was. Hanai and Harima are an awesome comedy team, and I don't think there has been a adorable female buffoon like Tenma since Gracie Allen in the 30's and 40's.

Another thing I had forgotten was that every time there's a HarimaxYakumo scene I'm rooting for HarimaxYakumo, and every time there's a HarimaxEri scene I'm rooting for HarimaxEri. Is that fickle or what?

Of course if Harima ever did fall for Yakumo the show would be over, as she's a perfect girl and would eliminate comedy potential (She'd the choice for me though). Harima could date Eri however, with plenty of comedic situations still available.

Is there anybody out there that is actually rooting for HarimaxTenma?

TooPurePureBoy

2006-04-07, 12:21

LOL. That's all I have to say (but of course I'll say more).

That ending with Imouto-san giving Harima the bento at Tenma's urging had me in stitches. Just the way Tenma was so stupidly proud of herself was the best.:heh:

ShikaShika

2006-04-07, 14:15

Thought it was pretty good, though a bit behind the top episodes of the first season. Was quite shocked to see my 7 being the lowest grade of all. :eek:

Potatochobit

2006-04-07, 14:29

episode 1 wasnt really that great. maybe my expectations were too high.

it wasnt bad or anything, but it was definately the only episode so far that didnt hold my interest, which i find shocking.

mtarzaim

2006-04-07, 16:28

This first ep was amazing for me/us ! !

In only 25 minutes, they managed to give me/us everything I/we wanted :
- A lot of comedy (Hanai and Harima, mummy version ! XDDDDD )
- A little of sweetness (Tenma and Yakumo)
- A few drops of weirdness (Karasuma and Akira ! XD )
- Ten seconds of tragedy (Eri in front of Yakumo, Hanai hearing the news )
- A full load of misunderstood situations (Harima agreeing to love Yakumo ! XD )
- The return of the ero-sommelier's secret society !
- An OP full of expectation (Nakajima and his "army" ! Imadori jumping on ... Lala's breast ! New characters ! Lala with ... Tenma's antennas ?!)
- A great cliffhanger ! ! ! ! ! !

Yes ! School Rumble is back ! I feel again the will to live ... at least one more year ! ^^
ERIIIIIII ! ! FIGHTOOOOOOOOOO ! ! ! :) :) :) :) :)

daemoness

2006-04-07, 17:37

It looks like I'm the only Harima x Tenma supporter! :(

Sorrow-K

2006-04-07, 18:34

Actually, the only reason that the OVAs were slightly weaker was because outside of the extra onsen scene, everything else was pieced together from the side (♭) chapters from the manga. Most ♭ chapters are just there to provide extra details and stories about some of the more minor characters in the series. It was a necessary evil, though - riceball didn't get a proper treatment in Ep.26 with all of the unusual happenings in that episode. The OVAs were necessary to set the stage for the events of this season.I suspected this was so... which is why I alluded to it in my review (http://www.nihonreview.com/wordpress/anime/school-rumble-ova/). But I still don't see why they were necessary, since a lot of the work for setting the stage for the new season had been done in the first season anyway. I suppose it did slightly ease the transition, but it doesn't change the fact that the transition episodes were very mediocre, IMO.

Thyrz

2006-04-07, 19:48

Biggest blast I had this year. :D I love you, SR.

evil-samurai

2006-04-07, 20:55

Another thing I had forgotten was that every time there's a HarimaxYakumo scene I'm rooting for HarimaxYakumo, and every time there's a HarimaxEri scene I'm rooting for HarimaxEri. Is that fickle or what?
Funny thing is I get the same feelings, I like both girls and Harima is a kick ass lead as always, the way they write the story and moments with both the girls is well done. I just cant say I like it one way more then the other.I'd forgotten just how funny and well written this show really was. Hanai and Harima are an awesome comedy team, and I don't think there has been a adorable female buffoon like Tenma since Gracie Allen in the 30's and 40's.The Best two Man team I've seen, they should be more characters like them in other anime.

am1n

2006-04-08, 10:30

OMG What a great episode, I didn't expected sukuran to be that good that soon

Ramen89

2006-04-08, 11:26

Hilarious episode! Im so glad its back, the word association part had me in stitches.

Shadowscar

2006-04-08, 19:02

This episode was definately one of the better ones in my books :) im glad to see this series back and cant wait to see how it progresses!

Ronin Aquila

2006-04-08, 22:46

I liked the emotional consistency of the narrative arc.

Although still hilariously zany, compared to the first season this opener is more sedate and dialogue based in its humor compared to the average First-Season episode. :)

As the genuine emotions thicken, the pace mellows and becomes more character driven.

I must say that was some fine voice-acting on the part of Horei Yui when Eri bumped into Yakumo at the school gates: It was another marvelous example of thinly veiled spite, hate and jealous anger behind such apparent pleasantry on the part of Eri's character.

Conri

2006-04-09, 00:02

The OP/END are good, but unfortunately make me realize how much I miss first season's OP/END. This season is off to a slower start, but I'm sure there is much wackiness in the immediate future. Some nice relationship "developments." Yay, bananas!

It looks like I'm the only Harima x Tenma supporter! :(You are not alone. However, I am not solely a Harima x Tenma supporter as there are a good number of interesting character relationships on this show. However, my main love in School Rumble is the humor. :D

Muir Woods

2006-04-09, 02:19

On the one hand, I love the scathingly witty comedy and almost all of the characters. But, on the other hand I hate the fact that the story progresses at a snail's pace and that Tenma is used as a device to stall every single chance of any relationship progressing over and over and over again.
I share the same sentiment and complaint of School Rumble. From what I can infer of what you mean by "plot progress" is the process of resolving primarily the romantic relationships between the characters. But I realized that this constant turmoil of relationships is part of what School Rumble is, an intrinsic quality of the series. It is through this mess of misunderstandings that School Rumble delivers its brunt and brand of humor. In episode 01 of this new season, the romantic situation worsened, laying the foundation for even more comedy to occur in this season. You can bet still more bedlams of relationships are yet to come before everyone reaches a stable and satisfied status (if it ever does).

Ronin Aquila

2006-04-09, 03:14

You are not alone. However, I am not solely a Harima x Tenma supporter as there are a good number of interesting character relationships on this show. However, my main love in School Rumble is the humor. :D

Make that THREE Harima/Tenma Supporters!! :p

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2006-04-09, 08:03

Make that THREE Harima/Tenma Supporters!! :p
Never!! Flag for the Win!:D

Even though she hardly got any lines in this episode, Eri is still the girl who, IMHO, has the most chance with Harima. Go, girl!

Ronin Aquila

2006-04-09, 09:06

Flag, sir? :confused:

Pray tell, is that short for a four worded slogan? Only started to learn net slang a scant 4 months ago.

Eclipze

2006-04-09, 09:18

Flag, sir? :confused:

Pray tell, is that short for a four worded slogan? Only started to learn net slang a scant 4 months ago.
Not quite sure its exact meaning, but its like the fan club name for EriXHarima, and theres one for YakumoXHarima as well (forgot what it is).

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2006-04-09, 09:32

Flag, sir? :confused:

Pray tell, is that short for a four worded slogan? Only started to learn net slang a scant 4 months ago.
"Flag" is a term one uses for events that occur in dating sims, that functions as turning points and cross roads for different situations and endings.

Since Eri's encounter with Harima were always "dating-sim-like", in the sense that they hardly ever talk normally, but always meet at critical situations, their relationship is called the "Flag".

There are some terms I found on the Internet: Note that there is likely more out there.

Flag/Jersey Faction: Harima x Eri

Oudou (main) Faction: Harima x Tenma

Dream come True Faction: Hanai x Yakumo

Riceball Faction: Harima x Yakumo

Kids Meal Faction: Harima x Eri or Harima x Yakumo
(Little Japanese Flag + Onigiri = Japanese Kids Meal)

Monkey Faction: Harima x Eri x Yakumo

Flute Faction: Hanai x Mikoto

Chinese Food Faction: Asou x Sara

Applejuice Faction: Imadori x Ichijou

Under the Moon Faction: Hanai x Harima

Cousin Faction: Harima x Itoko

Bloody Mary Faction: Eri x Yakumo

Ronin Aquila

2006-04-09, 09:42

Cousin Faction: Harima x Itoko

Whoa-hoho... this faction would no doubt also include supporters of other "close" :heh: family-relations such as SergeyXNina (Mai Otome father-child) and HaruoXMaika (Magikano brother-sister). :heh:

Bloody Mary Faction: Eri x Yakumo

Horrific images of Eri eliminating her "competition" in her Attic ALA Bluebeard popping up. :heh:

ragnarokr

2006-04-09, 13:01

Nice episode, as expected form school Rumble, Follows the pace of the 1st season, so there should't be any worries.

I also disliked the new OP/ED. It's something that passed right away in my mind when I saw them. It's just that the OP/ED of the 1st season were too good and suited the anime better image+theme wise.

monstert

2006-04-09, 21:23

This episode is funny, almost made me regret dropping the first season.

Taylor--

2006-04-09, 23:19

Good episode! I'm glad it's back, and the next ep look's pretty awesome.

Swampstorm

2006-04-10, 13:36

I suspected this was so... which is why I alluded to it in my review (http://www.nihonreview.com/wordpress/anime/school-rumble-ova/). But I still don't see why they were necessary, since a lot of the work for setting the stage for the new season had been done in the first season anyway. I suppose it did slightly ease the transition, but it doesn't change the fact that the transition episodes were very mediocre, IMO.
Yeah, I wasn't very keen on them, either. That being said, after the first batch of episodes gets introduced and the first major conflict gets introduced, the OVA might seem to play a slightly more relevant role in the series overall, depending on your perspective, of course. :heh:

I must say that was some fine voice-acting on the part of Horei Yui when Eri bumped into Yakumo at the school gates: It was another marvelous example of thinly veiled spite, hate and jealous anger behind such apparent pleasantry on the part of Eri's character.
That seems to be the common opinion that's been passed around, but I think there's something much more subtle than that going on here.

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Polite Smile...

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That's the critical moment.

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S1 Screenshot, for comparison with the last image.
On one hand, Eri tries to be graceful and courteous towards the one who seems to have "won" Harima's affections. Still, in the third frame, you see the facade break, and she shows herself to be mournful, rather than spiteful.

Pay attention to Mikoto's comments in the classroom, too - Mikoto tells Eri to "show some resilience." An angry or jealous person would be fiesty and competitive. Here, Eri has given in, like she seemingly did to Mikoto and Tae, in S1 Ep.14 and S1 Ep.23, respectively. This scene doesn't show Eri staring down Yakumo, but instead builds pathos for Eri and her heartache. I'd say that it's the most critical moment in this episode.

MidnighT-WolF

2006-04-10, 14:55

Just watched the first episode too and, like many others here, i really laughed a lot, just like when i watched the first season!!! It kinda made me nostalgic to see all the characters again in new episodes, i was sooooo looking for the second season and now that it's here, i just can't wait between the episodes!

This episode was just too hilarious, many Anime comedy series made me laugh, but never as much as SR did, and i hope that the upcoming episodes will be the same, or even more hilarious!

I'm also a supporter of Harima x Tenma, but for me, Harima x Hanai will always be the best comedy duo in the serie! Remember the pool "soap" hockey game in the first season, hahaha! :D

Trax

2006-04-10, 17:16

Souten no Seigyoku

2006-04-10, 20:02

It was a pretty average episode. I think the Eri romantic tension is lower than it should be from where it left off last season. I love the fact that Kenji keeps getting misunderstood more and more.

However...
Kenji is staying with Yakumo in the end. Yes he has this crush on Tenma, but he doesnt know her. I think they tried to illustrate that in one of last seasons last episodes (24?). Hes gotten to know Yakumo and Eri and zilch of Tenma. Right now its a Yakumo-Kenji-Eri love triangle because we know Eri likes Kenji and Yakumo is starting to like him as well despite her attempts to distance herself for her sisters sake.

Its hillarious and annoying at the same time. He should just come out and say he likes Tenma and it would end all the misunderstanding. Then again, it would end all the comedy too so horray for misunderstandings.

Xinil

2006-04-11, 18:44

First episode was great, got the same vibe from it like when the first season just started. For some reason the enjoyment seemed to diminish for me towards the end of the first season, but after the break this first S2 episode was as hilarious as I had hoped. Both Harima and Tenma are thick as usual, in that respect they suit eachother but I see a better match for Harima with either Yakumo or Eri (can't really make up my mind about that). No idea about a match for Tenma to be honest, maybe Karasuma to match her thickness with his weirdness. Anyway, things are looking good for S2. :D

I couldn't agree with you more. That's the EXACT same way I feel about Harima. I don't know if I'd rather he be with Eri or Yakumo. Touch choice. I think both would suit him just perfectly.

Tenma on the other hand...blah. To be honest she kinda bugs at times. Karasuma is a flaming loser. *kicks Karasuma* Boooooo.

Other than Tenma still liking Karasuma, this second installment is going to kick some serious ass. I loved the first season, and I'm sure I'll love the second.

Side note: I really hope we get to see Harima take off his glasses more often this season. He looks freakin' sweeeet without them on. I'm sure Eri and Yakumo will fall head over heels for him if they see him without them on. :)

Edit: Also, like Souten stated, it almost has to keep going back and forth between all the characters. If one actually says they like the other outright, we're gonna lose a huge comedy layer. :(

ApathyEcstasy

2006-04-12, 21:08

Yeah, I wasn't very keen on them, either. That being said, after the first batch of episodes gets introduced and the first major conflict gets introduced, the OVA might seem to play a slightly more relevant role in the series overall, depending on your perspective, of course. :heh:

That seems to be the common opinion that's been passed around, but I think there's something much more subtle than that going on here.

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Pause...

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Polite Smile...

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That's the critical moment.

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S1 Screenshot, for comparison with the last image.
On one hand, Eri tries to be graceful and courteous towards the one who seems to have "won" Harima's affections. Still, in the third frame, you see the facade break, and she shows herself to be mournful, rather than spiteful.

Pay attention to Mikoto's comments in the classroom, too - Mikoto tells Eri to "show some resilience." An angry or jealous person would be fiesty and competitive. Here, Eri has given in, like she seemingly did to Mikoto and Tae, in S1 Ep.14 and S1 Ep.23, respectively. This scene doesn't show Eri staring down Yakumo, but instead builds pathos for Eri and her heartache. I'd say that it's the most critical moment in this episode.

i agree with you..i feel really bad for eri..such a total flashy princess yet she has given up to the more reserved/conservative/traditional yakumo (yakumo is obviously an ideal girl) but i can't help wishing eri would get a grip on herself and also get into the fighting spirit...it's ironic that eri is obviously way more into harima than yakumo is..yet eri is the one feeling helpless and sad while yakumo is only showing that she KINDA might be sorta romantically interested in harima (emphasized by the OVAs)..her overall intention with harima is really pretty ambiguous if you consider how she's the type that gets embarrassed easily etc. so it's not easy to tell because it'd be easy to confuse her general embarrassment of being flattered/touched by harima with that of a more specific embarrassment due to a very certain interest in harima..bleh i'm definitely rambling now so yeah

edit: so all in all..i can't decide if i'm on the harima+eri bandwagon or the harima+yakumo bandwagon..though to be completely honestly..it's more than likely that at the very end of the manga (or series..if the series is made to catch up with the manga and end on equal plot points), tenma might eventually be confessed to by harima etc. and maybe by then she'll be over/given up on her current crush..though i have to be honest that tenma isn't exactly the ideal catch..it's obvious that she's SO happy-go-lucky that any failed chase would be easily moved on from, as opposed to yakumo or eri..since they're both the rejecters and chased rather than the rejectees or chasers..any failed love pursuit for them would obviously be taken extremely seriously and deeply (lifetime emo depression anybody?)...haha i dunno about anybody else but for me that's a huge PLUS for a girl edit: because it's a greater indication of how far they're willing to go for you and how serious they are about keeping you

Xinil

2006-04-13, 00:05

Great post by Swampstorm and Apathy.

Swampstorm: I agree with you when you conclude that Eri seems to have "given up" on Harima. I think it's too early to say that for sure though. I'm thinking that later on in the series (perhaps soon), Yakumo is going to do something that will piss Eri off. Then perhaps we can have Eri realizing she wants to compete against Yakumo (not necessarily because she wants Harima...but because that's her nature). Or maybe Harima will piss her off as per usual of him. I just can't believe that Eri has given up yet! Her current mood has got to pass.

Apathy: I like your analyzing with "rejecters and chased" to "rejectees or chasers". It looks like it's going to play a very important role over how each one of them acts towards Harima.

I really hope they focus a lot, a lot, a lot on this love triangle. Forget Tenma and Karasuma. Does anyone actually even care about that relationship?

I think that whoever sees Harima without his glasses first will be insta-in-love. :)

Swampstorm

2006-04-14, 12:17

Swampstorm: I agree with you when you conclude that Eri seems to have "given up" on Harima. I think it's too early to say that for sure though. I'm thinking that later on in the series (perhaps soon), Yakumo is going to do something that will piss Eri off. Then perhaps we can have Eri realizing she wants to compete against Yakumo (not necessarily because she wants Harima...but because that's her nature). Or maybe Harima will piss her off as per usual of him. I just can't believe that Eri has given up yet! Her current mood has got to pass.

I didn't mean to imply that Eri has permanently given up. The fact that the animators went out of their way to create that scene to draw pathos toward Eri should be an important clue. As a general rule, you want to always keep the audience's sympathy with the protagonists of the story - that's what makes you care about them.

Plotwise, though, this really isn't something that we haven't seen in the earlier story arcs. Think back to the early days of S1. When Eri hears from Tenma that Harima is "interested" in Mikoto, there's initially a fight, but when Eri sees Harima in the cafe having a "date" with Mikoto, she gives up. The first words that Eri utters are "So, you really were the cute one, after all," (in reference to the comment that she made earlier) and with that statement she concedes defeat to Mikoto. Rather than risk feeling rejected, she chooses to run away and hide her feelings (as a matter of fact, Eri's interactions with her father seem to indicate that this is a trend in how she deals with other people). Success in that story arc only occurs once Eri overcomes her feelings of jealousy and makes up with Mikoto.

The scenario involving Tae is similar - during the meeting in the Nurse's office, Eri again acts nonchalant about her interest - going along with Tae's "relationship" with Harima. Ultimately, the misunderstanding needs to be resolved before Eri can overcome her pride and self-image to dance with Harima.

The vast majority of these story arcs so far have dealt with a build up of crisis involving Eri, and some sort of catharsis that transforms the act of overcoming character weaknesses into some form of character development. In this story arc, we're exploring Eri's feelings of inadequacy - she feels that Yakumo is somehow superior to her. While Eri acts like the ideal girl in the eyes of the world, Yakumo is the ideal girl - which allows Yakumo to serve as a foil to bring out Eri's feelings of inadequacy. Again, Eri is set at a disadvantage, and again she is faced with a crisis involving her feelings concerning Harima.

Being a flagger is tough, at times. But how can you get a catharsis without going through a crisis, first? ;)

I think that whoever sees Harima without his glasses first will be insta-in-love. :)
It's already happened. In Season 1, Episode 13, Tenma saw Harima without his glasses. :heh:
He does look better with them off, though.

Xinil

2006-04-15, 00:44

Yeah I remembered that it happened already with Tenma. Tenma is definitely a lost cause though. There's just nothing that'll get her to like Harima. Unless perhaps she remembers that one time she was in his room.

Basically what you're saying though is that Eri just needs to overcome yet another slump. Which of course, she must. :)

horsdhaleine

2006-09-13, 20:47

I didn't mean to imply that Eri has permanently given up. The fact that the animators went out of their way to create that scene to draw pathos toward Eri should be an important clue. As a general rule, you want to always keep the audience's sympathy with the protagonists of the story - that's what makes you care about them.

Plotwise, though, this really isn't something that we haven't seen in the earlier story arcs. Think back to the early days of S1. When Eri hears from Tenma that Harima is "interested" in Mikoto, there's initially a fight, but when Eri sees Harima in the cafe having a "date" with Mikoto, she gives up. The first words that Eri utters are "So, you really were the cute one, after all," (in reference to the comment that she made earlier) and with that statement she concedes defeat to Mikoto. Rather than risk feeling rejected, she chooses to run away and hide her feelings (as a matter of fact, Eri's interactions with her father seem to indicate that this is a trend in how she deals with other people). Success in that story arc only occurs once Eri overcomes her feelings of jealousy and makes up with Mikoto.

The scenario involving Tae is similar - during the meeting in the Nurse's office, Eri again acts nonchalant about her interest - going along with Tae's "relationship" with Harima. Ultimately, the misunderstanding needs to be resolved before Eri can overcome her pride and self-image to dance with Harima.

The vast majority of these story arcs so far have dealt with a build up of crisis involving Eri, and some sort of catharsis that transforms the act of overcoming character weaknesses into some form of character development. In this story arc, we're exploring Eri's feelings of inadequacy - she feels that Yakumo is somehow superior to her. While Eri acts like the ideal girl in the eyes of the world, Yakumo is the ideal girl - which allows Yakumo to serve as a foil to bring out Eri's feelings of inadequacy. Again, Eri is set at a disadvantage, and again she is faced with a crisis involving her feelings concerning Harima.

Being a flagger is tough, at times. But how can you get a catharsis without going through a crisis, first? ;)

It's already happened. In Season 1, Episode 13, Tenma saw Harima without his glasses. :heh:
He does look better with them off, though.

quite an eri fan, eh?

anyway, i enjoyed the first episode. gotta love tenma and yakumo~~~ :p