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Tensei

2011-04-28, 19:49

Not many I'd say considering I can pronounce it right and Japanese isn't my native language....but then again, my native language is spanish so pronouncing Japanese isn't that hard :heh:

Also, I'm part of the people that didn't like the whole "Data Overmind" translation, it seemed too weak of a name to me compared to say, the Integrated Data Sentient Entity(Baka-Tsuki's name) or the The Intergral Data Thought Entity(I think this is the other translated name, can't remember :p )

Kogetsu Shirogane

2011-04-28, 22:45

"Data Integration Thought Entity" would be the other one I'm familiar with. Of course, due to the various translations, I simply refer to it as "Data thing" when mentioning it. :p

Tom Bombadil

2011-04-29, 07:47

After the teaser chapter, my heart has been warming up to Asakura quite a bit. Previously I don't care about her that much since she played a pretty minor role in the stories. Now I am actually quite amused/fond of her obsession of killing Kyon.

AmyElizzabeth

2011-04-29, 12:30

I still don't really like her..never been too fond of her. Although I kinda wanted her to stab Kuyoh, just like she did to Kyon, but..:heh: I'm not big on knives.

Roger Rambo

2011-04-29, 12:55

but..:heh: I'm not big on knives.
So you prefer flamethrowers?

Kogetsu Shirogane

2011-04-29, 15:20

For the record, as there are some of us who have chosen not to look at the teaser and are instead opting to wait until the full thing is released, that conversation constitutes a pretty major spoiler. :heh:

ryvrdrgn14

2011-04-29, 15:35

I really do hope that the quality of the release and the sales of the novel are enough for more anime seasons of Haruhi. ^_^

AmyElizzabeth

2011-04-30, 13:40

ultimatemegax

2011-05-03, 22:04

I've done some research today on the novel sales in Japan since the anime started in April 2006. Here is how the series has grown from a popular series to historic levels:

Reporting Date |Amount sold|Volumes|Amount Sold per Volume|Reporting Difference |Difference from 2006
Apr-06 | 1500000 | *7 | 214286
Dec-06 | 2800000 | *8 | 350000 | 87% | *87%
Dec-07 | 4300000 | *9 | 477778 | 54% | 187%
Dec-08 | 5300000 | *9 | 588889 | 23% | 253%
Feb-09 | 5600000 | *9 | 622222 | *6% | 273%
Jan-10 | 6000000 | *9 | 666667 | *7% | 300%
Apr-11 | 7000000 | *9 | 777778 | 17% | 367%
Jun-11 | 8000000 | 11 | 727273 | 14% | 433%

Further details and source are in the full blog post (http://wp.me/pJGQj-fD).

Ithekro

2011-05-03, 22:10

It jumped 1,000,000 in a month?

ultimatemegax

2011-05-03, 22:12

It jumped 1,000,000 in a month?

The first pressing of Surprise's Limited Edition contains 2 volumes and will be printed 513,000 times for 1,026,000 copies to be sold sometime near the end of this month and into next month.

Tensei

2011-05-04, 02:35

And people on the internet say Haruhi isn't famous :heh: I say let's celebrate in honor of this information :heh: Nice job Koizumi
ultimatemegax :heh:

jin jin5000

2011-05-09, 22:07

im going to pick up the korean copy when it comes out and can ship after the chaos dies down lol

prob going to take like $20 shipping fee...

s07195

2011-05-10, 05:07

14 and a bit more days...... can't wait.
Oh, and here's the site for Taiwan and HK. (http://www.kadokawa.com.tw/haruhiweb/index.html)
What's with the music?

ultimatemegax

2011-05-10, 07:20

A new CM was placed on Kadokawa's youtube channel.
0H24VqiiTsA
Link (http://youtu.be/0H24VqiiTsA)

As expected, no new information from this CM.

For those ordering the latest issue of Comptiqs, you will get a 2 special tumbler covers (one with Haruhi/Mikuru/Yuki and one with only the mysterious blue cover girl). Also, The Sneaker has updated their website (http://www.sneakerbunko.jp/). I believe I've read that they will be moving to an online/e-book format, but I cannot confirm that at this time. Those are the latest updates to Kadokawa's special Haruhi novel site (http://www.haruhikyougaku.jp/).

s07195

2011-05-12, 04:27

So, any news on if these are the last 2 novels? I kinda read on some magazine that it was the last 2, but not too sure if it is reliable.
I hope the series doesn't end yet...but then who (on this forum) doesn't? I mean, there are still so many loose ends to tie up!

Kogetsu Shirogane

2011-05-12, 04:50

That rumor again? While I'm pretty much okay with the series ending by this point, I'd imagine there's still more that can be done with it.

Actually doing something with Koizumi comes to mind.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-05-12, 06:28

ultimatemegax

2011-05-17, 06:24

There's no delays this time!
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7279/51405214.jpg
Courtesy of Noizi Itou (https://twitter.com/#!/itoww/status/70443033132417025), we have the first glimpse of Surprise (First) and Surprise (Latter) as well as the special The Untold Story of Haruhi Suzumiya booklet! Just over a week to go!

Game8910

2011-05-17, 13:04

its almost here...I can almost smell them

Tensei

2011-05-17, 14:03

Just 6 days and 19 hours more to go! I can barely wait now that we're this close to release date

Quoted so the images can be in this page too

There's no delays this time!
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7279/51405214.jpg
Courtesy of Noizi Itou (https://twitter.com/#!/itoww/status/70443033132417025), we have the first glimpse of Surprise (First) and Surprise (Latter) as well as the special The Untold Story of Haruhi Suzumiya booklet! Just over a week to go!

Ekureiru

2011-05-17, 22:33

Kaisos Erranon

2011-05-17, 22:37

final chapter

Stop that.

I have been saying this for four years, but there's no indication that these are the final books of the series. They'd be marketing them as such if they were.

ultimatemegax

2011-05-17, 22:40

Eep~! Nice to see that the final chapter is ALMOST around the corner.

Just managed to pick up the most-recent English-translated hardcover not long ago.

(I've had them in .pdf in English for some time)

There is no confirmation that these are the last novels. Likely by the end of the weekend we shall have the first spoilers to enable us to know that these are not the last of the series. Like Kaisos said, it'd be over everywhere if these were the last ones.

Also I'm curious since we're close to the release date and shipments should be going out. Was the book you picked up Disappearance or Rampage as the latter is being shipped to retailers now.

Edit: Not worth a double-post, so here's the official cover for volume 14 of the manga. It'll be released one day after Surprise's LE set (May 26th, 2011):
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/th_haruhimanga14.jpg (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/haruhimanga14.jpg)

s07195

2011-05-18, 07:55

I regret not pre-ordering Astonishment just for the Rainy Day sidestory, even if I can't read Japanese well yet...
Is it too late?

ultimatemegax

2011-05-18, 08:23

I regret not pre-ordering Astonishment just for the Rainy Day sidestory, even if I can't read Japanese well yet...
Is it too late?

No, it's still available from Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4044292108/), CD Japan (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/series_list.html?sid=1250), HMV (http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3990366), bk1 (http://www.bk1.jp/product/03373664), and likely a Kinokuniya if there is one nearby. All of those places will ship internationally from Japan.

Tensei

2011-05-18, 13:09

Keep in mind though that if you order from AmazonJP to the USA, it will be almost $60 total, the shipping alone is about $39. I don't know how much it costs to other countries though.

ultimatemegax

2011-05-18, 18:25

Kadokawa is really pushing the marketing on the next novels! First was the trailer through Akiba for 8 days combined with an ad in the Yomuri morning newspaper and an ad at the Akiba Japan Rail station and pamphlets being handed out on 1/29. Next was a CM followed by bookstore ads (even a promotional video). Then advertisements on race cars and news reports of the record-breaking first pressing came out. Now, through this month and the beginning of next month, most (if not all) of the Kadokawa Group Publishing periodicals will have a feature about Haruhi (http://www.haruhikyougaku.jp/magazine.html) in it. Here's the list:

Newtype June Edition- Haruhi Racing feature
Comptiqs June Edition - Attached Haruhi tumbler inserts (Haruhi/Mikuru/Nagato and one of Volume 11's cover girl) and Nagato pinup drawn by Lucky Star's Kagami Yoshimizu
Asuka July Edition - Haruhi cover with a special report and reader present
Shounen Ace July Edition[/i] - Special The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya comics and library alternative cover
Comp Ace July Edition- Special Haruhi Tribute with illustrations drawn by R-15's Takuya Fujima, Sola and ef's Naru Nanao, and Shuffle's Hiro Suzuhira
KeroKero Ace July Edition- A collaboration feature with Haruhi and Animal's Thicket
Gundum Ace July Edition- Special Haruhi cover
Only Traveler June Edition- Special Haruhi cover and a mini feature
Nyantype July Edition- Special booklet about the whole Haruhi Suzumiya series.
CIEL July Edition- Special Kyon and Koizumi cover with a Haruhi chapstick included
Young Ace July Edition- Special reversible The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya shitajiki
Wildness Age June 12th Edition- Special Nagaru Tanigawa signed book
Weekly The Television/i] 21st Edition- Special original Haruhi QUO card drawn by Noizi Itou
[i]Hoikaido Walker June Edition- Special Haruhi bookmarks (3) and wise sayings postcards (4)
Tokyo Walker June Edition- Special Haruhi bookmarks (3) and wise sayings postcards (4)
Yokohama Walker June Edition- Special Haruhi bookmarks (3) and wise sayings postcards (4)
Tokai Walker June Edition- Special Haruhi bookmarks (3) and wise sayings postcards (4)
Kansai Walker June Edition- Special Haruhi bookmarks (3), wise sayings postcards (4) and a special "Find the SOS Brigade" contest
Fukuoka Walker June Edition- Special Haruhi bookmarks (3) and wise sayings postcards (4)
Weekly ASCII June 7th Edition- Special Haruhi and AKB48's Mayuyu cover
Dengeki Hobby Magazine July Edition- Special Haruhi cover
Weekly Famitsu June 2nd Edition- Special Haruhi cover and postcard
Dragon Magazine July Edition- Special Haruhi feature
Historical Period Literature July Edition- Special Haruhi cover

Tensei

2011-05-18, 22:23

wow, just wow. They're gonna be making a lot of money this month from people just wanting the special items.

RRW

2011-05-19, 02:25

that is one hell advertisement

ultimatemegax

2011-05-19, 14:11

And on the other side of the planet Little, Brown Inc. (via Hachette Book Group) have shipped their copies of The Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya to retailers and Amazon is sending their copies out now. Keep in contact with your preferred retailer to see when they'll be sending theirs out.

Ashaman

2011-05-19, 16:15

I regret not pre-ordering Astonishment just for the Rainy Day sidestory, even if I can't read Japanese well yet...
Is it too late?

Eh, sorry if this is a stupid question, but I haven't been keeping up with news at all.

Is this a novel version of the Rainy Day episode at the end of the first anime season, or something else entirely?

Zakoo

2011-05-19, 16:17

I read volume 10 today ... wow, has there been a change of drawer between volume 9 and 10? Even Nagato wasn't as cute as before, what happeneeeeeeed?

ultimatemegax

2011-05-19, 16:31

Eh, sorry if this is a stupid question, but I haven't been keeping up with news at all.

Is this a novel version of the Rainy Day episode at the end of the first anime season, or something else entirely?

The short story bundled with the Limited Edition set of The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (First) (Latter) (volumes 10 and 11) is entitled Rainy Day and will be released next week.

The episode released in 2006 was entitled Someday in the Rain and was originally an anime-only story before being printed in the August 2006 edition of The Sneaker. It, along with the two Haruhi Theatre Acts have not been compiled into a novel.

I read volume 10 today ... wow, has there been a change of drawer between volume 9 and 10? Even Nagato wasn't as cute as before, what happeneeeeeeed?

Gaku Tsugano is the only mangaka to draw this version of the manga.

Ashaman

2011-05-19, 16:34

Thanks for the quick response.

RRW

2011-05-19, 17:00

by the way is any one in here buying the novel? if you can PM me about spoiler when you finished the novel

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-05-19, 18:32

AbZeroNow

2011-05-19, 18:40

The short story bundled with the Limited Edition set of The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (First) (Latter) (volumes 10 and 11) is entitled Rainy Day and will be released next week.

The episode released in 2006 was entitled Someday in the Rain and was originally an anime-only story before being printed in the August 2006 edition of The Sneaker. It,[Someday in The Rain] along with the two Haruhi Theatre Acts have not been compiled into a novel.

Added emphasis and brackets to make point clearer.

Ah, that's news to me. So Someday in the Rain is now officially novel-canon then? (I always believed it was canon, it's just that this is the first time the author put the story to print.)

No, Rainy Day is a new short story. It features Kyon and Volume 11 cover girl. :)

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-05-19, 18:43

No, Rainy Day is a new short story. It features Kyon and Volume 11 cover girl. :)

I know that. I was referring to the detail that Someday in the Rain was published in story form in the Sneaker.:)

Gamer_2k4

2011-05-19, 22:03

Hmm, that's odd. AFAIK, Someday in the Rain was rather unique in that it had scenes where Kyon wasn't explicitly present, and therefore would've been strange in a first-person perspective story. I figured that was reason enough for it to remain anime-only, but I guess I was wrong.

RRW

2011-05-20, 11:51

I know that. I was referring to the detail that Someday in the Rain was published in story form in the Sneaker.:)

well isnt that basically another usual SOS day. there is nothing major in the story anyway.

so i consider it as cannon.

by the way haruhi is making The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina 2 right?

kimpleng

2011-05-21, 12:21

Looks like some body get the items early.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1579/1305993635047.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/1305993635047.jpg/)
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9020/1305993670028.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/1305993670028.jpg/)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8041/1305993571577.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/1305993571577.jpg/)
Found at imageboard.

bhl88

2011-05-21, 13:56

I hope they color it like that, like in the English release.

... who am I kidding... I hope they release the stories.

Game8910

2011-05-21, 14:18

IT BEGINS! my body is not even ready for this yet!

Tensei

2011-05-21, 15:13

RRW

2011-05-21, 15:47

if anybody find pic. please quickly posted :)

Ithekro

2011-05-21, 19:26

Guess that was the actual "Rapture" for the day. The coming of Haruhi Suzumiya.

AmyElizzabeth

2011-05-21, 21:29

Even though it's in a few days :heh:
I really can't wait. Even though I probably won't get a translation for like 4 years, it's still pretty exciting to be in with the hype..

Gamer_2k4

2011-05-21, 23:24

Really? One of the illustrations is Sakaki in a wet T-shirt?

Really??

keri

2011-05-22, 00:13

Really? One of the illustrations is Sakaki in a wet T-shirt?

Really??

It's from the Rainy Day story, so probably makes sense in context. Or so I hope.

CrowKenobi

2011-05-22, 01:18

Remember, we do have a thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=104335) for the new novels, so any story related discussion should go there. :D

RRW

2011-05-22, 01:34

Really? One of the illustrations is Sakaki in a wet T-shirt?

Really??

well it been 3 years since we saw sasaki. so just thrown some fan service to service the fun (pun intended)

Skane

2011-05-22, 01:50

Makes you wonder what stopped Kyon from tapping that...

Heh.

Ithekro

2011-05-22, 01:53

Middle school friends maybe? Also now he's surrounded by three good looking girls (with a fourth and possible fifth..all A- or better on the scale) as well as Itsuki the fabulous.

I mean, he's not tapping Haruhi even though it has been suggested such a thing might end all suffering in the universe (exaggeration...maybe). He's not tapping Nagato even though she changed the Universe for him (maybe). He isn't tapping Mikuru (though he clearly want to) because of something...heat death of space-time or something like that.

Gamer_2k4

2011-05-22, 03:13

well it been 3 years since we saw sasaki. so just thrown some fan service to service the fun (pun intended)

Oh geez, I just noticed something else. Her uniform is different, and the only reason I can think of for that would be that it's her middle school uniform. And I really hope that's not the case because... Ew.

I mean, he's not tapping Haruhi even though it has been suggested such a thing might end all suffering in the universe (exaggeration...maybe). He's not tapping Nagato even though she changed the Universe for him (maybe). He isn't tapping Mikuru (though he clearly want to) because of something...heat death of space-time or something like that.

I would imagine he's not tapping Mikuru because she expressly forbids it, he's not tapping Yuki because she would be so compliant that it just wouldn't feel right, he's not tapping Haruhi because he's intimidated by her, and he's not tapping Itsuki because he still wants to maintain a semblance of straightness despite not tapping the other three.

Kaisos Erranon

2011-05-22, 04:07

Oh geez, I just noticed something else. Her uniform is different, and the only reason I can think of for that would be that it's her middle school uniform. And I really hope that's not the case because... Ew.

You must not watch very much anime. :heh:

Besides, she's only a few months younger there than Haruhi was at the start of the series. I don't see where your disgust is coming from.

Takamura Mamoru

2011-05-22, 05:55

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/Smokie1/1306060924682.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/Smokie1/1306059866990.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/Smokie1/1306059949022.jpg

Kaisos Erranon

2011-05-22, 06:08

That hairpin...

Takamura Mamoru

2011-05-22, 06:12

I find it funnier that in the first picture, Haruhi is crucified. Looks like she died for our sins indeed.

Kaisos Erranon

2011-05-22, 06:18

Might want to edit that post, as it looks to be the cliffhanger ending for Vol. 10...

s07195

2011-05-22, 06:21

How did the novel get leaked anyways?
But damn, after looking at those pics...I can't wait for next week.
After that, I just hope someone's willing enough to scanlate that Rainy Day side-story.
(So much for that new thread :heh:)

EDIT: I seriously admire you people who can make a decent serious comment without fan-squeeing at those pics)

TakariCritic

2011-05-22, 07:32

http://www.sos-dan.com/img/src/1306067366325.jpg
http://www.sos-dan.com/img/src/1306067391011.jpg

Looks like we finally get a character design on that freshman girl who Kyon described in Book 9.

Snow White

2011-05-22, 07:38

http://www.sos-dan.com/img/src/1306067366325.jpg
http://www.sos-dan.com/img/src/1306067391011.jpg

Looks like we finally get a character design on that freshman girl who Kyon described in Book 9.
Could it be that she's the slider we're all waiting for?

PastPrime

2011-05-22, 09:34

Could it be that she's the slider we're all waiting for?

I suspect that Mikuru Big is pulling out all the stops. While she called Kyon Senpai, I think that she could also call him and Haruhi "Momma and Papa." Much like Chibiusa in "Sailor Moon." If that is so, we will probably get a girl in the other Time Line who can call Kyon and Sasaki "Momma and Papa."

CrowKenobi

2011-05-22, 09:38

Okay, let's move all the current discussion about the new novels to the Surprise thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=104335). To help that out, I'm going to close this thread for the day.

Thank you.

EDIT: Thread re-opened! :D

And remember: novel 10 & 11 discussion has its own thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=104335) for spoilers.

ijuinkun

2011-05-22, 23:10

Oh geez, I just noticed something else. Her uniform is different, and the only reason I can think of for that would be that it's her middle school uniform. And I really hope that's not the case because... Ew.
Technically, this would have been less than a year before Melancholy begins, so the difference between "drool at Haruhi in Melancholy" and "drool at Sasaki in Rainy Day" is a matter of numbers rather than a visible difference in appearance--I mean teenagers don't change that much visually in a single year unless it's the year in which they cross the puberty divide.

Javiersansano

2011-05-23, 09:54

Anyone knows a safe, and understandable site (english preferible) to buy volume 10 and 11?............I'm thinking of buying them, and having them translated by some translation service company, or whoever I can find, because there is no way the novels will be fan translated, right?

Gamer_2k4

2011-05-23, 10:06

Technically, this would have been less than a year before Melancholy begins, so the difference between "drool at Haruhi in Melancholy" and "drool at Sasaki in Rainy Day" is a matter of numbers rather than a visible difference in appearance--I mean teenagers don't change that much visually in a single year unless it's the year in which they cross the puberty divide.

I guess that's fair. When I thought "middle school" I was thinking more like Tanabata Haruhi's age.

quigonkenny

2011-05-23, 15:14

I guess that's fair. When I thought "middle school" I was thinking more like Tanabata Haruhi's age.
Keep in mind that the level of squick involved is all relative. Yes, the middle school "Tanabata Haruhi" was no more than 13 (probably only 12), but even the oldest primary character in the series, Tsuruya, is only 17, and that's only as of late, as she started the series at 16, like any normal Japanese second-year high schooler (I don't count Mikuru or the data interfaces in the discussion, as we don't know exactly how old she is in either form, and they are presumably all much younger than they appear). Over the majority of the series, most of the characters haven't been any older than 15, which makes them just as much jailbait in most countries as Imouto-chan (who certainly has her share of..."enthusiasts")...

Gamer_2k4

2011-05-23, 15:28

Keep in mind that the level of squick involved is all relative.

No doubt. If the girls are drawn with bodies like they're in their twenties, it's hard not to react as though they are adults. I guess it's the same reason we don't have an issue with Tanaguchi rating Yuki an A-, despite us knowing as informed viewers (as you alluded to) that she's literally probably no more than three years old. You go based on appearance, and, to me, Sakaki has the appearance of a middle-schooler in that picture.

But still, regardless of age...

Really??

quigonkenny

2011-05-23, 17:19

No doubt. If the girls are drawn with bodies like they're in their twenties, it's hard not to react as though they are adults. I guess it's the same reason we don't have an issue with Tanaguchi rating Yuki an A-, despite us knowing as informed viewers (as you alluded to) that she's literally probably no more than three years old. You go based on appearance, and, to me, Sakaki has the appearance of a middle-schooler in that picture.

But still, regardless of age...

Really??
Oh, I have no problem with Taniguchi rating any of them anything. He's underage as well, after all, and Yuki (and the other interfaces) are designed to look and act their supposed ages, so you can't fault anyone for treating them as such. They're not even human, anyway, or even really biological, except physically, so the sexuality argument doesn't even apply in the same way.

Gamer_2k4

2011-05-23, 17:53

Oh, I have no problem with Taniguchi rating any of them anything. He's underage as well, after all, and Yuki (and the other interfaces) are designed to look and act their supposed ages, so you can't fault anyone for treating them as such. They're not even human, anyway, or even really biological, except physically, so the sexuality argument doesn't even apply in the same way.

Well, right, which is why I said WE don't have an issue with it. I'm pretty sure we're on the same page here, for the most part.

ultimatemegax

2011-05-24, 07:46

The cover for the Official Fanbook: The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya has been released by Kadokawa:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/fanbook.jpg

Yumeka

2011-05-24, 10:16

Cool, what's in the fanbook?

ultimatemegax

2011-05-24, 11:35

Cool, what's in the fanbook?

The fanbook is as it says: a guide to the novel series. It'll feature some things from the new novels as well as some unreleased items from Tanigawa and Itou.

Today the official website (http://www.haruhikyougaku.jp/) updated with a new webpage. It states "Pray with Haruhi. When 15,498 desires come together, something good is bound to happen!".

The referred site (http://www.haruhikyougaku.jp/haruhinegai/index.html) allows you to send a message to the site (with one of the main SOS Brigade characters if wanted) or you can tweet your wish with the official hashtag #haruhinegai.

Edit: It's not worth a new post, but here's images of Vol 5 (Eng. version) that I received today:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/SDC13216edit.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/SDC13218edit.jpg

2nd Edit: Overall I'd say the translation was well done. One mistake (switching between yen and dollars between stories) was all that I noticed. I did like the adaptation for Tsuruya to call Haruhi "Harls" instead of the original "Haru-nyan." Everything was put together well outside of that mistake. You should feel great in purchasing it!

s07195

2011-05-25, 07:16

And so.....
Here comes Surprise!

Apparently there was a promotion for preordering the Chinese books, and I managed to do that in time. Just picked it up today. No Rainy Day, there is something awesome...

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/834/dsc00238yp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/dsc00238yp.jpg/)

EDIT: Not sure if this is a spoiler, should I add it to the *official* thread?

RRW

2011-05-25, 08:09

chinese LN cover? or manga?

s07195

2011-05-25, 08:27

Special Edition cover for preorders of The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (First and final part). I think this is Chinese version only.

CrowKenobi

2011-05-25, 11:53

EDIT: Not sure if this is a spoiler, should I add it to the *official* thread?I'm fine with these merchandise updates being posted in this thread, however, any story-related material should go in the "official" thread. :D

ultimatemegax

2011-05-27, 21:02

"Selling well" would be an understatement for the latest set of Haruhi novels. This is far from official (those numbers will be out Wednesday) but I'm hearing some GREAT news on the status of stores in Japan with the LE set.

To begin, I've heard rumors that some stores have already sold out of the set and some are already running low. The Melonbooks in Akiba is already down to half of their original set by the end of sales on Friday and Gamers's head store has gotten rid of the double screw seen here (http://blog-imgs-47.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/305604668.jpg) and has had a decent chunk taken from the base as seen here (http://twitpic.com/5336ix).

Then we have this blog post (http://comicbookstore.blog39.fc2.com/blog-entry-1565.html) by a bookstore. They've checked and they sold approximately over 40% of their allotted stock on the first day alone. That one store has sold over 2000 copies of everything Haruhi already (manga, novels, extras, etc). What's even better is the clientele coming in and purchasing the set. Not only do you have men and women, you have salerymen, office ladies, housewifes, high schoolers, middle schoolers and more. They didn't have a break at all during that first day. They are highly concerned that they won't be able to make it through the weekend with their stock.

Kadokawa has already told that store that it's incredibly unlikely that they'll be sending more stock of the LE. I'm incredibly eager to see what the first week sales will be.

Roger Rambo

2011-05-28, 09:53

Does this mean we're going to get another Season of Haruhi? (hopefully with higher budget animation than the last one...)

Also. Someone NEEDS to find a high quality raw of that long image of all the rerelease Haruhi novels. The one featuring all the characters. I'm so annoyed that I haven't found a bigger version of that.

baltakatei

2011-05-28, 10:56

Does this mean we're going to get another Season of Haruhi? (hopefully with higher budget animation than the last one...)

Only if it's economically justifiable. *orders more Haruhi things*

GDB

2011-05-28, 11:33

Only if it's economically justifiable.

Didn't season 2 still print buckets of money, despite all the bitching?

bhl88

2011-05-28, 11:45

I managed to buy a limited edition Haruhi (in Kinokuniya, US, LA).... I'm hiding it first until I can find a place to take a good picture of it.

ultimatemegax

2011-05-28, 12:50

Also. Someone NEEDS to find a high quality raw of that long image of all the rerelease Haruhi novels. The one featuring all the characters. I'm so annoyed that I haven't found a bigger version of that.

Will this work?
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/th_20110528haruhi01.jpg (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/20110528haruhi01.jpg)

vvv Fixed and it's from a television source that moved (this CM (http://youtu.be/0H24VqiiTsA)) so it's as good as they could get.

GDB

2011-05-28, 13:09

Link has an extra g at the end.

Also... was Mikuru decapitated there?

Eater of All

2011-05-28, 17:01

Also... was Mikuru decapitated there?

Oh GOD that scared the living shit out of me. :twitch:

*goes back to lurking*

Roger Rambo

2011-05-28, 17:12

Will this work?
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/th_20110528haruhi01.jpg (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/20110528haruhi01.jpg)

vvv Fixed and it's from a television source that moved (this CM (http://youtu.be/0H24VqiiTsA)) so it's as good as they could get.
Ok. This is really awesome aside from whatever happened to Mikuru's head. :upset:

(why couldn't Itsuki get HIS head chopped off?)

And it seems Sasaki and her delicious knee high boots aren't here...oh well. I guess I'll have to wait for someone to scan the cover in question.

edit: The student council president is really tall.

Jonbob0008

2011-05-31, 03:22

Haruhi is missing her feet, too. :(

ultimatemegax

2011-06-01, 14:25

Jonbob0008

2011-06-02, 17:25

Oricon (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/88338/) is reporting that Surprise's limited first press edition set a new record for "bunko" books sold in one week. It sold around 341,000 copies last week. Final numbers will be released very soon.

It's always good when a series you love sells well. No reason to believe that the gravy train is slowing down. If anything, it could be stronger than ever.

ultimatemegax

2011-06-06, 21:52

Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_61867829_8?ie=UTF8&docId=3077080256&pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=1EHA5X784ASFY4JZDYJ4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=101092349&pf_rd_i=289205011) just released their top selling books for the first half of 2011. As expected, the top selling book in all of books was The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (First Press Edition). #2 was Moshidora and #5 was the sixth volume of Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai. A couple later volumes of the Bakemonogatari series ranked and the 19th ranked book was the eighth volume of OreImo. But above all the rest lies Haruhi. God's in her heaven; All's right with the world.

ijuinkun

2011-06-07, 00:44

More like God's in her club room. ^_^

AbZeroNow

2011-06-07, 00:56

But above all the rest lies Haruhi. God's in her heaven; All's right with the world.

I had to smile at the Evangelion reference given how many shout outs Kyon has given that in the anime. And of course how a select few accuse Nagato of being nothing more than an expy of Rei.

But being serious, I'm glad Haruhi is on top once again. And now, Kyon must not run away. :heh: OK, I just had to type that.

Ithekro

2011-06-07, 00:58

Several more accuse Nagato of being a better version of Rei.

I'm happy with Yuki regardless.

Gamer_2k4

2011-06-07, 10:02

Several more accuse Nagato of being a better version of Rei.

I'm happy with Yuki regardless.

Yuki is more appealing to fans because her character development is more explicit than Rei's (and she's crazy powerful), but Rei is the better designed, more realistic character.

quigonkenny

2011-06-07, 10:27

Yuki is more appealing to fans because her character development is more explicit than Rei's (and she's crazy powerful), but Rei is the better designed, more realistic character.
Given her position in the NGE story, that's arguable at best. Perhaps "more human" would be a better way to put it?

Reckoner

2011-06-07, 17:18

Several more accuse Nagato of being a better version of Rei.

I'm happy with Yuki regardless.

I think though Yuki is but one in a long line of replicas of Rei type character, she has earned herself more than enough distinction and interest to warrant her own unique identity.

Most of the Rei clones fail because they have nowhere near the level of detail and development that Rei had, as well as purpose.

For that I love both characters, and am glad Yuki can stand up on her own as a character.

ultimatemegax

2011-06-08, 17:18

Oricon (http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/obb/w/) is reporting that Surprise's first press edition sold 47,311 copies this week to bring its two week sales to 388,495.

I'm somewhat disappointed, but that's still incredibly good for any light novel volume's second week. I'm curious if the online retailers have stored their copies and the normal bookstores can't get any more in until the regular edition.

ijuinkun

2011-06-09, 01:42

I would expect that the lower sales this week stem in part from some places being sold out--they may only have sold about 75% of all printed copies, but a good fraction of that remaining 25% is likely being hoarded by online retailers and the like as Ultimate has said.

FDW

2011-06-09, 04:17

I finally got my legal copy of "The Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya" today.

kimpleng

2011-06-09, 23:11

RAW LN of vol 10 and 11 was already released. But I'm not sure if allowed to share the link here.
Here the sample, just one page.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9574/haruhi10283.png (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/haruhi10283.png/)

ultimatemegax

2011-06-12, 10:16

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-12, 14:19

Interesting fact from this article (http://www.nikkei.com/news/headline/article/g=96958A9C93819696E2EAE2E0908DE2EAE2E4E0E2E3E38AE1 E6E2E2E2). We can't blame Tanigawa for not putting out Surprise last year. He finished it last fall and it could have been released in Japan last November. Kadokawa thought to release it simultaneously throughout Asia, thus delaying the release by 6 months, as a way to prevent bootleg copies from being sold in those countries.

That's marketing for you; to promote the simultaneous release as a good thing, when in reality there had been a delay.

I don't suppose this is standard practice? But if they liked the outcome they might do this more often.

ijuinkun

2011-06-13, 02:55

Pardon, the link is broken.

ultimatemegax

2011-06-13, 05:20

Pardon, the link is broken.

It has been fixed in the post.

ijuinkun

2011-06-14, 02:37

Odd. I'm still getting a 404 error.

Khu

2011-06-14, 03:53

You need to remove the first http//

Then all will be swell. :)

ultimatemegax

2011-06-15, 09:06

Released today by the Sneaker Bunko editorial staff, here are some images from OFFICIAL FANBOOK: The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya:

(Spoiled for size. There are no spoilers for the latest novels in the images)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/DSCF3259.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/DSCF3260.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/DSCF3261.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/DSCF3263.jpg

The front cover and insert pinup illustration were newly drawn images from Noizi Itou. This image contains Haruhi, Sasaki, and the new girl in Surprise:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/DSCF3262.jpg

The layout is as follows:
Chapter 1: Characters

Kyon
Haruhi Suzumiya
Yuki Nagato
Mikuru Asahina
Itsuki Koizumi
Ryouko Asakura
Tsuruya-san
Sasaki
Kuyou Suou
Kyouko Tachibana
Fujiwara
(New Character)
Taniguchi
Kunikida
Sonou Mori/Arkawa
Emiri Kimidori
Student Council President
Kyon's Sister
Everyone Else

Chapter 2: Summary of works

Melancholy
Sigh
Boredom
Disappearance
Rampage
Wavering
Intrigue
Anger
Dissociation
Surprise (First/Final)

Chapter 3: Question/Answers with Nagaru Tanigawa/Noizi Itou
Chapter 4: Unreleased Manuscript from A Study in August (It's 16 pages long, I doubt it's the full version but it should have some details about what the story was about)
Chapter 5: Roundtable Discussion (Tanigawa/Itou/Editor-in-Chief)
Chapter 6: Supplementary Information

(All credit goes to an anonymous poster on 2ch)

ultimatemegax

2011-06-15, 10:01

Sorry for double-posting, but I have gotten permission to post something.

In the 64 page booklet included in the LE first pressing of Surprise, the new editor-in-charge wrote about some interesting tidbits regarding the titles/cover of Melancholy as well as the cover illustrations of Disappearance and Wavering-Anger. I really liked reading about their thoughts in the process. In order to keep the images ordered specifically, I've had to keep them in a separate document, but I have three variations.

Without further delay, here is a translated version of The Untold Story of Haruhi Suzumiya:PDF (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/untold-story.pdf)/DOC (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/untold-story.doc)/DOCX (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/untold-story.docx)

(This is not included in the fanbook mentioned in the above post)

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-15, 10:19

Released today by the Sneaker Bunko editorial staff, here are some images from OFFICIAL FANBOOK: The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya:

Ah, is that the fabled novel time-line I see?

I know the author keeps track of the events in every single book and date them precisely. And it appears this is what the book is showing us.

Yumeka

2011-06-15, 11:13

Released today by the Sneaker Bunko editorial staff, here are some images from OFFICIAL FANBOOK: The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya:

Nice! I especially love the pinup pic ^.^ I'll have to see if Kinokuniya has copies when I go to AX~

ultimatemegax

2011-06-15, 22:05

Oricon is reporting that the LE sold 16,618 copies last week to reach 405,113 total copies in three weeks. That's just under 79% of all copies printed sold thus far. When the CE charts next week, we'll have to separate that into another count from the LE as that only counts as one book sold.

ultimatemegax

2011-06-22, 23:06

Yumeka

2011-06-23, 00:32

AbZeroNow

2011-06-23, 01:08

Kadokawa took out an ad (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/hotline/cm/image/thumb_108.jpg) in today's Nikkei newspaper to promote the novel series. In it they announced that, for the first time, a light novel has sold over one million copies. That novel is Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu, the first novel.

That's great news for the franchise. I wonder if the release of Surprise and the marketing that Kadokawa has done to promote it also led to more sales of the first novel. Perhaps this may be a further clue that Kadokawa may want more Haruhi anime to keep up the excitement.

Since I don't want to double post, I'll add that I bought and read Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya three weeks ago. Reading the original material for the Endless Eight and Day of the Sagittarius was interesting, and I loved Snowy Mountain Syndrome. I thought the change from Haru-nyan to Harls was a little awkward but I suppose it was the best way in English to show that Tsuruya likes to give people nicknames. Koizumi's punning remark to Kyon about snow was very well done too.

ultimatemegax

2011-06-23, 07:03

The LE of Surprise sold 8,888 copies last week to reach 414,001 sold via Oricon. It was 31st place.

The Official Fanbook: The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya sold 19,542 in its first week to rank 8th via Oricon's rankings.

Roger Rambo

2011-06-23, 17:10

They mention an explanation for the four year delay in these extra novels getting published being in the postscript. Does anyone have that?

Also, does anyone know where it was that Itou posted that alternate style of Haruhi with pigtails+glasses?

ultimatemegax

2011-06-24, 20:52

So here's part I of what I'll be translating from Observation:

The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya
Chapter 3: Question-and-Answers
Part I: Nagaru Tanigawa Collection

1. Of the Haruhi Suzumiya series which is the character you like best (or is most impressive)?
Haruhi. She's the beginning of it all and one day will be the end.

2. What's your favorite story?
If I had to say one it'd be Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. Thanks to that story being written, I was able to compose Disappearance.

3. Are there any rules or guidelines you go by when you compose a title in the series?
Well, they have to all be The (blank) of Haruhi Suzumiya, but that (blank) has to correlate to something in the book. If I choose a title that's misdirecting, then that would give off a negative image.

4. How were you able to come up with Haruhi, Nagato, and Mikuru's characters?
They were unchanged from the beginning. As characters, Haruhi gives off a high-tension image, Nagato is more of a low tension character and somewhere in the middle is Mikuru. They all just happened to be like that.

5. Who do you think is the strongest between the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders?
That depends on the situation they're in. Don't forget that humans are pretty resilient too.

6.Please give some advice to any Haruhi cosplayers.
When performing as someone you like you have to be in the mental shape of the character.

7. Are there plans to introduce new characters in future works?
Classified information.

8. What ideas for future works have you thought about?
Very classified information.

9. Do you have any plans for the members of the SOS Brigade will do after graduation?
That's also classified information. Well, really I don't know myself.

10. Who do you think you most resemble in the SOS Brigade?
I'd have to go outside the Brigade and say Taniguchi. Ideally I'd like to be like Koizumi, but I don't think I'm suited to fulfill that spot.

11. Haruhi always keeps an eye on events that happen each season. Tanigawa-sensei, do you have any plans for this summer?
I tend to let the seasons pass without doing anything special in particular. Occasionally now I end up forgetting what month, date, or even day it is right now.

12. Please tell us what is the best summer you had forgotten about.
I suppose it would be the summer of my second year in high school. Instead of studying like I should have been doing, I was busy writing stories in my notebook. Even now I tend to blush when I think about it.

13. In the postscript for Intrigue, you wrote about "Strange enigmatic transmissions notes." Would you mind expanding on that for us?
When I was in middle school, I started a notebook that was full of joking things. When I had a joke for a story I would write it down. Eventually it became my everyday habit to think and write in that notebook. It's already been ten-odd years since I started that and through countless books. I'm sure if I read through them now they wouldn't be interesting…. or perhaps I should say that I shouldn't re-read them again. Whatever I wrote about is likely buried deep in the gaps of my memories by now.

14. What's your favorite genre of books?
Foreign sci-fi and Japanese classic mysteries.

15. What's your favorite type of game?
Strategy simulations and shooting games.

16. What's your favorite sport?
American football. Of course that's only watching, not playing.

17. What's your favorite food?
Spicy curry.

18. What don't you like to eat?
Raw eggs and eggplant.

19. What is your favorite brand of cigarettes?
As long as the smoke rises anything would be good for me.

20. What's your favorite kind of alcohol?
Beer.

21. What is your favorite movie?
Among other things, my favorites would be The Hidden and Killing Time.

22. Do you keep any pets?
While she's not male, I do have a tortoise shell cat. Already she's twenty years old now.

23. What kind of music do you listen to while writing?
I have to have a soundless environment while writing or else I can't concentrate.

24. What must you have beside you when you are writing?
Tea and a Japanese dictionary.

25. What do you do when you're discouraged when writing?
I lie down in bed or go take a bath.

26. What did you do when you were a student? Was there something like the SOS Brigade in your school?
I didn't have that type of experience at all. There wasn't anything like the SOS Brigade that I know of. To answer your first question, I thought preparing for the cultural festival was very fun.

27. Please tell us any special memories you had from your high school days.
You might be surprised, but there's none from those three years. The only thing I can remember is breaking the rules by coming on bike for those three years.

28. Do you have any memories from your school festivals?
The only thing I remember is the art club and another class that had a fried soba café. I wasn't able to enter that shop though.

29. What was your favorite subject in school?
World history.

30. Do you have any policies when you play mahjong?
Just don't disturb the field.

31. Up until now, what was the best game of mahjong that you remember?
On the last turn one time I was able to turn it around and get a little four winds yakuman.

32. How old were you when you rode a motorcycle for the first time?
I was about 22 when I rode my coworker's worn-out FZR.

33. What kind of motorcycles do you ride now?
Just a little while ago my bike was decommissioned, so I'm not riding anything now.

34. How old were you when you had your first love? What kind of person was she?
It was in kindergarten…. no, elementary school…. no, it was middle school when I met her. She was a little bit of an airhead if I remember. I can't remember anything else.

35. How old were you when you wrote your first story? What was it about?
It was in my second year of middle school when I wrote about my classmate N as a protagonist in a gag short story. Incidentally, he never got to see it.

36. Do you wear glasses, contacts, or do you go without eye correction?
Up until now I've went without, glasses, contacts (that I kept losing), and then glasses.

37. Is there anyone you're awaiting on your cell phone now?
I'm waiting to hear from Noizi Itou-san about using Haruhi for a charity event for the massive earthquake.

38. You were a manager for an apparel shop at one time if I remember. Do you have any stories from then?
I remember one girl who was a part-timer that came in and was talking on her phone. She got into a fight with her older brother and was late due to him.

39. Please tell us about the history of your pen name.
Well, already I'm starting to regret the specifics of it. Now what I chose as "Nagaru" ends up having to be written as "Ryuu." I'm already having to write myself as "Tanigawa Ryuu" in order to properly identify myself. Other than that, everything has been fine.

40. Please tell us what you think of the new head of the Sneaker Bunko editorial department.
After being married he's often truly happily boasting about his wife and dog. He's also got an interesting name too.

41. Was there anything that impressed you during the exchange of information with the new head?
During the correction of the manuscript, we were able to fix almost half of all the mistakes right there.

42. Are you a morning, afternoon, or evening person?
Easily a super late night person. Around midnight or at least after ten is when I most prefer it.

43. It's now May of 2011. Is there anything you really wish for now?
I'd like a robot maid who specializes in cleaning after cats and who can also help prepare me to ride the bullet trains.

44. What historical figure do you like best?
Cao Cao.

45. If it's possible to freely go to the past, what year would you go to and what would you do?
I'd go to the 1994 Imora Circuit race before the Sena machine ruined it.

46. Up until now, who would you say most influenced you? (excluding family)
My classmate Y-kun who I shared classes with from 4th year of elementary school until the first year of middle school.

47. What do you find yourself most enthused about in your spare time recently?
I arbitrarily think about historical riddles and try to come to my own conclusion for them.

48. Please tell us what you look forward to in the future.
I hope to continue working hard and trying my best not to be a bother to anyone.

49. What were your thought about the worldwide simultaneous release of [I]The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya?
It was an extreme honor. I never imagined when I submitted Melancholy to the Sneaker Grand Prize that it would win much less be immensely popular not only in Japan but around the world as well. I had only thought of a title about ten seconds before the due date when I submitted it and I was lucky that it became so popular. Fortune is truly an unpredictable thing.

50. Please give a message to the fans who are awaiting your next work.
To everyone reading, please continue living your life the way you think best. We'll all do our best from here on.

TheHaruhiIncarnate

2011-06-24, 21:25

Those questions are so thourogh, I feel rude reading them.

But honestly, I feel kind of strange. Maybe it's because i'm a big fan or maybe its calcium deficency, but I'm sort of in awe. Nagaru Tanigawa always fascinated me. He came up with an amzingly unique story that I dream about most nights. How did the one little idea become the hopes and dreams of so many who want this life?

Maybe I just like him 'cause he likes Haruhi for the same reasons I do. I don't know. I always feel strange whenever I read the Author's Notes and inverviews. Not strange bad, but in a peaceful way.

headache.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-24, 23:08

9. Do you have any plans for the members of the SOS Brigade will do after graduation?
That's also classified information. Well, really I don't know myself.
That pretty much confirms that the Haruhi novels will not continue past Kyon and Haruhi's highschool graduation. Though there is no reason Mikuru can't graduate a year earlier.

1. Of the Haruhi Suzumiya series which is the character you like best (or is most impressive)?
Haruhi. She's the beginning of it all and one day will be the end.
There we go, folks. Haruhi is the Alpha and Omega, straight from the author's mouth.

Can we please kill the "Kyon is God" theory once and for all now?:heh:

Jonbob0008

2011-06-25, 02:03

That pretty much confirms that the Haruhi novels will not continue past Kyon and Haruhi's highschool graduation. Though there is no reason Mikuru can't graduate a year earlier.

And I think that's a good thing. Having an indefinite period for this series to go on would result in stagnation for sure. At most, I think a final epilogue that take place years later would be the last of it.

There we go, folks. Haruhi is the Alpha and Omega, straight from the author's mouth.

Can we please kill the "Kyon is God" theory once and for all now?:heh:

I think the "Kyon is God" theory has been losing steam lately anyway, although I've heard a more plausible theory that they're both Gods. Whatever. :p

Also, didn't Tanigawa once say that Nagato was his favorite? Maybe he changed his mind over the course of the last few years.

In any case, Haruhi is a blast to write, so I can see why he'd like her so much. :D

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-25, 03:00

AAlso, didn't Tanigawa once say that Nagato was his favorite? Maybe he changed his mind over the course of the last few years.:D

Well, I think Yuki as a character has advanced as far as she could go. Kyon will never return her feelings, so it is why everything Yuki is going to stall from now on. Yuki doesn't interact with anyone but Kyon, so if she can't advance her relationship with Kyon any further then she would get no more developments. It is time to bring in someone else to push the plot forward.

Yuki was liked by Tanigawa for her character develoment possibilities. But now that her story has been told, everyone had to learn to move on.

Jonbob0008

2011-06-25, 04:46

Well, I think Yuki as a character has advanced as far as she could go. Kyon will never return her feelings, so it is why everything Yuki is going to stall from now on. Yuki doesn't interact with anyone but Kyon, so if she can't advance her relationship with Kyon any further then she would get no more developments. It is time to bring in someone else to push the plot forward.

Yuki was liked by Tanigawa for her character develoment possibilities. But now that her story has been told, everyone had to learn to move on.

I suspect the few remaining Yuki/Kyon supporters out there who aren't crying themselves to sleep at this point would still contend with that. However, I would counter with saying that while further character development for Yuki is possible, it would be next to impossible for anyone, even Tanigawa, to pull off a Yuki/Kyon romance ending without it being terrible. The emotions required from Yuki would be seriously out of character.

Of course, Yuki shouldn't need a MAN to get more character development. Go feminism go!

Leo Keichi

2011-06-25, 07:32

10. Who do you think you most resemble in the SOS Brigade?
I'd have to go outside the Brigade and say Taniguchi.

Hm, Taniguchi? I always imagined him more like a cleverer version of Koizumi.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-25, 09:20

Of course, Yuki shouldn't need a MAN to get more character development. Go feminism go!

Oh, I certainly am not suggesting Yuki need Kyon to exist and to have a life. However, since this book is written from Kyon's POV, Yuki DO need Kyon in order to exist in the book.

Feminism is all well and good, but anyone who doesn't interact with Kyon might as well be made of ether. It's the limits of the story telling method being employed. It is either Kyon or nothing.

TheHaruhiIncarnate

2011-06-25, 09:51

Oh, I certainly am not suggesting Yuki need Kyon to exist and to have a life. However, since this book is written from Kyon's POV, Yuki DO need Kyon in order to exist in the book.

Feminism is all well and good, but anyone who doesn't interact with Kyon might as well be made of ether. It's the limits of the story telling method being employed. It is either Kyon or nothing.

Mmm. I don't know about that. I mean, if Haruhi found out about everything, it would kind of help Yuki. I think Haruhi would be expressivly grateful. And Yuki wouldnt have to hide. I think Suzumiya would make a great friend for Yuki.

But i'm just speaking hypothetically.

Jonbob0008

2011-06-25, 10:05

Oh, I certainly am not suggesting Yuki need Kyon to exist and to have a life. However, since this book is written from Kyon's POV, Yuki DO need Kyon in order to exist in the book.

Feminism is all well and good, but anyone who doesn't interact with Kyon might as well be made of ether. It's the limits of the story telling method being employed. It is either Kyon or nothing.

What I meant was that Yuki didn't need to be in a romantic relationship with Kyon to get character development.

ultimatemegax

2011-06-25, 18:02

Before I post part II, I have a brief correction of Part I:

The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya
Chapter 3: Question-and-Answers
Part I: Nagaru Tanigawa Collection

37. What image is on your cell phone now?
That image that Noizi Itou-san drew of Haruhi for charity efforts for the Great Earthquake.

Now Part II of Chapter 3 is the Q&A of Noizi Itou:

The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya
Chapter 3: Question-and-Answers
Part II: Noizi Itou Collection

1. Of the Haruhi Suzumiya series which is the character you like best (or is most impressive)?
I love all five SOS Brigade members. I couldn't possibly choose just one. My most impressive character is Sasaki. In Surprise, she was always one step above everyone else thus I drew many pictures of her.

2. What's your favorite story?
It has to be the first story Melancholy. It's the one book I think is most concentrated on just the SOS Brigade.

3. Are there any rules or guidelines you go by when you draw Haruhi illustrations?
When I draw Haruhi characters, I try to draw freely in order to capture the strong intentions of the characters in the images.

4. When designing Surprise's new character, Yasumi, what points were you thinking about in her design?
I went mostly by how it was described in the book: smiley face on her hair and wearing a very baggy uniform.

5. Please tell us any memories you have from designing Haruhi, Nagato, and Mikuru in Melancholy.
Miraculously I had no problems with designing those three. Almost instantly an appropriate image popped into my head. If I had any problems it was the difference in height (there is a slight difference) between Nagato and Mikuru.

6. We've seen the adult version of Mikuru. How do you think the grown-up version of Haruhi and Nagato would look?
Well, you get to see a glimpse of how Haruhi looks this time in Surprise. I have an idea of how that Haruhi looks, but right now it's stuck inside of my head….it's almost like a dream now (laughs). As for Nagato, I can't think of how she would grow older. I'd think an adult version of Nagato would look just like she does now (laughs).

7. Who do you think is the strongest between the aliens, time travelers, espers, and sliders?
Probably aliens, right? But they still stand no chance against Haruhi (laughs).

8. Please give some advice to any Haruhi cosplayers.
When I was designing her, the female uniform itself has this very vivid blue cloth came instantly to me. Don't forget that the neckline ends in a V in order to imitate the North High uniform.

9. Please tell us if you have spoken with Tanigawa-sensei about the events that happen from here on.
I get the sense that big events such like the ones that happened in Disappearance and Surprise will happen in the future. It's on the scale of things that involve the whole world.

10. Who do you think you most resemble in the SOS Brigade?
I can't say I resemble any of them. If I have to pick one it'd be Kyon. His soul's voice tends to penetrate fiercely.

11. Haruhi always keeps an eye on events that happen each season. Itou-sensei, do you have any plans for this summer?
I've not really decided on anything yet…. probably I'll end up doing normal summer activities (like going to the beach).

12. Please tell us any impressions you have of the Haruhi fans when you've given autographs.
I've seen both Japanese and international fans who both enjoy the works as well as seen all emotions from tears to smiling faces. It's very surprising yet wonderful at the same time. The fans were dancing to Hare Hare when I went to France! It was quite impressive.

13. Haruhi always keeps an eye on events that happen each year. Itou-sensei, do you have any big event you look forward to each year?
It'd have to be New Year's Day. That day I can choose whether I want to be very busy or slowly get through the day.

14. What's your favorite genre of books?
I like mysteries and scary stories.

15. What's your favorite type of game?
I haven't played many lately but I do enjoy playing RPGs.

16. What's your favorite sport?
If pushed I'd have to say indoor events. When I was in middle school I was on the badminton club, but I've not played in such a long time.

17. What's your favorite food?
I like spicy foods. Oh, and sweet or salty foods are good too.

18. What don't you like to eat?
I can't think of anything but I've not eaten sashimi yet.

19. Please tell us what your favorite item you've bought lately would be.
When I was in South Korea I went into a Banila co store and bought this hand cream. It's so smooth!

20. What creators are you taking notice of lately?
My schedule is too hectic to take note of people, but I know that mebae-san and Hidari-san have good taste.

21. Please tell us any movies you like.
I like horror movies; in particular vampire and gothic horror films.

22. Do you keep any pets?
I'd like to get a dog or cat but right now I have a Melopsittacus undulatus (parakeet).

23. What kind of music do you listen to while drawing?
I can hear anything and make progress, but quiet is nice too. I do like to listen to techno and pop genres though. M-flo, Nakata, and Sutaka bring good feelings to me.

24. What must you have beside you when you are drawing?
Eyedrops.

25. What do you do when you're discouraged when drawing?
I do something different like go to bed.

26. What did you do when you were a student? Was there something like the SOS Brigade in your school?
There wasn't any nonsense like that at my school. I did pass the time by drawing pictures of my classmates. It was very ordinary.

27. Please tell us any special memories you had from your high school days.
Well… One of my friends fell in love with our teacher and I got ambushed every day to listen to her. Again, that's just ordinary life.

28. Do you have any memories from your school festivals?
I was in the art club so I remember frantically trying to finish my oil paintings.

29. What was your favorite subject in school?
I'd like to say the fine arts, but they weren't my strong points at that time. It'd have to be Japanese.

30. You have a very enjoyable motif in your drawings. Do you have anything that stands out as fun?
Since I'm usually drawing young girls the fluttering ribbons are what stand out. That and the lines around the fingers/toes.

31. What do you think is the most important point when drawing girls?
It has to be their facial expressions. The face is how their character comes together.

32. You used to work in the game industry. What did you learn there that helped you when illustrating novels?
How to finely draw the characters. In the industry there are times where there are only slight differences in the characters so you end up having to re-draw them over and over. That helped a lot.

33. You've drawn Haruhi several times. Is there any particular one that is memorable to you?
I drew the three girls with a giant "BANG!" for some type of campaign. I've used that several times as it's my favorite.

34. How old were you when you had your first love? What kind of person was he?
It was a refreshing boy in my elementary school class (laugh). All of the girls in our class had a crush on him.

35. How old were you when you drew your first illustration?
I had been scribbling since kindergarten but it was officially when I was in middle school that I started illustrating.

36. Do you wear glasses, contacts, or do you go without eye correction?
No glasses at all. I have super great eyesight.

37. What image is on your cell phone now?
Just a default image. That Q-pot is really cute!

38. Has anyone among your family or friends stopped and talked to you about Haruhi?
The child of my mother's tennis partner loves Haruhi and so we talk from time to time (laugh). It's alright though.

39. Please tell us about the history of your pen name.
I just borrowed the two names of musicians I liked and combined them into one.

40. Please tell us what you think of the new head of the Sneaker Bunko editorial department.
As we've worked together on various things he's always had some wise choices to help me. I had that impression of him when we met for the first time after he requested an illustration. I was so nervous.

41. Please tell us any memories you have with the new heads.
From U-san I received some homemade candy and from the handsome I-san I got a beer mug for White Day presents (laughs).

42. Are you a morning, afternoon, or evening person?
I'm a morning person, but I don't mind working until late at night to finish an illustration.

43. Is there anything you really wish for now?
I'd like a cat. At times I have a freeloading parrot that comes by and I think he'd stop with a cat in the house (laughs).

44. What spots would you like to visit?
I'd like to go to Isetan but I'd also like to go to Umeda as well.

45. If it's possible to freely go to the past, what year would you go to and what would you do?
I don't really look back into the past too much. If I had to go somewhere it'd probably be sometime I already experienced (laughs).

46. Up until now, who would you say most influenced you?
Kokawayun-sensei at Capcom immensely influenced me.

47. What do you find yourself most enthused about in your spare time recently?
I've got too many side interests that I'm not that interested in. If pressed I'd say hand creams?

48. Please tell us what you look forward to in the future.
I hope to continue living in harmony with my family and pet.

49. What were your thought about the worldwide simultaneous release of The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya?
It was an extreme honor for my work to be thought of so highly around the world. It's an immense pressure that I want to yell sometimes.

50. Please give a message to the fans who are awaiting your next work.
I too look forward to see what Haruhi and everyone gets into next. "I look forward to the next situation!" is what I would send as a fan letter to Tanigawa-sensei. Surely he would make it very exciting (raising expectations).

--This is all I will translate as I have to prepare for two big events coming up. If anyone is heading to AX next weekend, I hope to see you there.

AbZeroNow

2011-06-25, 18:31

Thanks Megax for translating the interviews with Tanagawa-sensei, and Itou-sensei. They had some interesting responses.

I suspect the few remaining Yuki/Kyon supporters out there who aren't crying themselves to sleep at this point would still contend with that. However, I would counter with saying that while further character development for Yuki is possible, it would be next to impossible for anyone, even Tanigawa, to pull off a Yuki/Kyon romance ending without it being terrible. The emotions required from Yuki would be seriously out of character.

Of course, Yuki shouldn't need a MAN to get more character development. Go feminism go!

I can still see plenty of Yuki/Kyon fanfic that will try to go for a well written romance ending. Shipping goes on even when the authors themselves shot down pairings(like in the Harry Potter fandom.) and TVtropes does have a section on Fan-preferred couples so the events of canon will probably have little effecting on the shipping itself. Of course, as a Haruhi/Kyon shipper, I am thrilled with the direction canon is seeming to go.

I can see Yuki further developing as a character in ways that don't involve romance. Ways that she slowly gains more humanity, and perhaps this leads her to discover the path for her own evolution. I can also see Yuki as the kind of character that nobly sacrifices herself at the end and goes out with a smile. I don't see Tanigawa-sensei going that route though. I know I want to see more Yuki smiling though, but I imagine that would take a long time to get to.

Ithekro

2011-06-25, 20:08

I seem to recall that Kyon too wanted to see Yuki smile again.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-25, 22:29

What I meant was that Yuki didn't need to be in a romantic relationship with Kyon to get character development.

They are already close friends. Yuki can't get new character development from Kyon from where she is currently standing.

Jonbob0008

2011-06-26, 13:39

They are already close friends. Yuki can't get new character development from Kyon from where she is currently standing.

Just because she can't get character development directly from him doesn't mean he can't be there to witness it come from other sources. I'm not buying the idea that her character development is done. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to come up with other ways her character could develop without the need for romance.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2011-06-26, 21:37

Just because she can't get character development directly from him doesn't mean he can't be there to witness it come from other sources. I'm not buying the idea that her character development is done. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to come up with other ways her character could develop without the need for romance.

By "other sources" can you specify? Because I can't come up with a scenario without making it seem like Kyon is spying on her private life.

Gamer_2k4

2011-06-26, 22:08

By "other sources" can you specify? Because I can't come up with a scenario without making it seem like Kyon is spying on her private life.

Well, to be fair, every single bit of character development Yuki has gotten has been non-romance related. She got development from playing a freaking computer game, for crying out loud. And on the other end of the spectrum, she got development from overhauling the universe. There's a lot of room between those two extremes.

Ithekro

2011-06-26, 22:34

Having her interact with other would be something on its own. Kyon getting in on part of it so we get to know about it, but otherwise not be part of it would work. Even if it is only her going around with the Computer Club.

There was that guy that was into her as well, though that disappointed her (that in itself is a reaction more than simple observation). So it is possible for there to be things going on with Yuki outside the SOS-dan.

Having her speak freely would even be somthing...not just to Kyon, though I don't know how that will happen since Kyon has a tendancy to omit things that don't relate directly to his situation...though he will omit his own name.

With Yuki, simple things still work. An honest smile for instance.

Jonbob0008

2011-06-27, 03:04

By "other sources" can you specify? Because I can't come up with a scenario without making it seem like Kyon is spying on her private life.

Really? I can give you 3, all of which took less than a minute to come up with.

Yuki could start dressing normally outside of school, and even start clothes shopping. This would be evidence that Yuki is starting to care about how she looks. Kyon would notice this during one of the Brigade's "City-wide Searches." This is plausible given that Yuki has already started sprucing up her own home a little bit.

Or one time during a City-wide Search, Yuki decided to skip the library and go do something more stimulating, liking going to the arcade (cue the Haruhi-chan version of Yuki). Again, Kyon could witness this while being paired up with her.

Or Yuki could realize that after years of reading hundreds of novels that she wants to write her own novel (perhaps the events of Editor inspired her to become a writer). Kyon could discover this in one of two ways: Either he spots her using the laptop during club time, or he is approached by Yuki later so he could read the novel and tell her what he thinks.

All three of these are relatively simple examples of possible character development that don't require Kyon to be anything more than a friend, nor do they require him to be a stalker to find out about them. And I came up with these off the top of my head. I'm sure Tanigawa could do better with months of brainstorming.

Her personality doesn't have to alter drastically for it to count. Small changes over the course of several novels can add up.

Gamer_2k4

2011-06-27, 10:02

Yuki could start dressing normally outside of school, and even start clothes shopping. This would be evidence that Yuki is starting to care about how she looks. Kyon would notice this during one of the Brigade's "City-wide Searches." This is plausible given that Yuki has already started sprucing up her own home a little bit.

Speaking of which, is there any reason given for her wearing normal clothes during Remote Island Syndrome? Did someone tell her to? Is the anime diverging from the novel? Or was this simply before it was decided that wearing her uniform non-stop would be a character trait?

Jonbob0008

2011-06-27, 13:25

Speaking of which, is there any reason given for her wearing normal clothes during Remote Island Syndrome? Did someone tell her to? Is the anime diverging from the novel? Or was this simply before it was decided that wearing her uniform non-stop would be a character trait?

I suspect it was to prevent Haruhi from getting suspicious. I mean, if Yuki had worn nothing but her school uniform the whole time (the trip was a few days long), I think even Haruhi would think that was REALLY weird. This was before the vast majority of Yuki's character development, so I doubt it was something she did because she felt like it.

Gamer_2k4

2011-06-27, 13:40

I suspect it was to prevent Haruhi from getting suspicious. I mean, if Yuki had worn nothing but her school uniform the whole time (the trip was a few days long), I think even Haruhi would think that was REALLY weird. This was before the vast majority of Yuki's character development, so I doubt it was something she did because she felt like it.

I think Haruhi has come to terms with Yuki being weird (a scene that comes to mind is Haruhi asking where Yuki's glasses are, Yuki saying nothing, and Haruhi brushing it off); additionally, less than a month after the island trip, Yuki wore her uniform for at least two weeks straight when the Endless Eight stuff was going on.

Jonbob0008

2011-06-27, 13:45

I think Haruhi has come to terms with Yuki being weird (a scene that comes to mind is Haruhi asking where Yuki's glasses are, Yuki saying nothing, and Haruhi brushing it off); additionally, less than a month after the island trip, Yuki wore her uniform for at least two weeks straight when the Endless Eight stuff was going on.

That could still be justified with her washing them every night. But wearing the same uniform for nearly a week straight without washing? Eww (even though I doubt Yuki sweats, I also doubt that Haruhi knows that).

Ithekro

2011-06-27, 13:54

Or it was Haruhi's idea...much like the kimonos in Endless Eight. Also Yuki needed to change to a swimsuit for the beach.

Interestingly, she didn't really do anything on that trip aside from follow orders when given (the closed door, which some think was an attempt at humor). Otherwise she was relaxing and reading when not under command by Haruhi (the sticks game scene).

Jonbob0008

2011-06-27, 18:13

Or it was Haruhi's idea...much like the kimonos in Endless Eight. Also Yuki needed to change to a swimsuit for the beach.

Perhaps that, too.

DurararaFTW

2011-06-29, 02:56

Really? I can give you 3, all of which took less than a minute to come up with.

Yuki could start dressing normally outside of school, and even start clothes shopping. This would be evidence that Yuki is starting to care about how she looks. Kyon would notice this during one of the Brigade's "City-wide Searches." This is plausible given that Yuki has already started sprucing up her own home a little bit.

Or one time during a City-wide Search, Yuki decided to skip the library and go do something more stimulating, liking going to the arcade (cue the Haruhi-chan version of Yuki). Again, Kyon could witness this while being paired up with her.

Or Yuki could realize that after years of reading hundreds of novels that she wants to write her own novel (perhaps the events of Editor inspired her to become a writer). Kyon could discover this in one of two ways: Either he spots her using the laptop during club time, or he is approached by Yuki later so he could read the novel and tell her what he thinks.

All three of these are relatively simple examples of possible character development that don't require Kyon to be anything more than a friend, nor do they require him to be a stalker to find out about them. And I came up with these off the top of my head. I'm sure Tanigawa could do better with months of brainstorming.

Her personality doesn't have to alter drastically for it to count. Small changes over the course of several novels can add up.

Well yeah, but these aren't things that would inspire Tanigawa to make her the centerpoint of a story, like her Tanigawa's love for her character has done many, many times in the past. Haruhi on the other hand...

Jonbob0008

2011-06-29, 10:47

Well yeah, but these aren't things that would inspire Tanigawa to make her the centerpoint of a story, like her Tanigawa's love for her character has done many, many times in the past. Haruhi on the other hand...

Never said they would be. I just making the point that there is still plenty of room for character development for Yuki, even if she's no longer in the running for Kyon's heart.

Ypocaramel

2011-06-29, 23:04

None of the charatcters threads have really been resolved yet.

Yuki: her gradual acquiring of humanity and her conflict with the IDTSE
Mikhuru: her evolution into adult Asahina-san (process begun) and the plot thread with Fujiwara
Kozumi: don't see that much development here, but we haven't seen any situations that involve put SOS-dan and the organization at odds.

Kyon, Haruhi: Haruhi's powers, John Smith (used once in disappearance but still active in the prime world)

Jonbob0008

2011-07-01, 17:49

ultimatemegax

2011-07-06, 10:44

The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (First/Final) will be receiving an e-book edition from Kadokawa's BOOKWALKER program on the 21st.

On the Haruhi Negai (http://www.haruhikyougaku.jp/haruhinegai/index.html) website, there is a message from Tanigawa and an illustration from Itou. It's just their wishes added to the site for today only.

TheHaruhiIncarnate

2011-07-06, 11:13

All those wishes for nothing? I hope there's actual news later.

Edit: The website looks beautiful. I want a gif of that and post it all over tumblr.

VentAileron

2011-07-06, 12:51

No, actually, they're going to hang our wishes during Sendai's Tanabata festival. :heh:

I do hope they make a selection, instead of printing "Haruhi is my waifu" 15498 - 1 times.

TheHaruhiIncarnate

2011-07-06, 14:50

I posted "I want my name to live on forever in history" (I only realized a beat later that I should have wished for a 3rd Haruhi season)

....but I wanted more than just hanging up our wishes.

Kaisos Erranon

2011-07-06, 15:54

I may be jumping the gun here, but...

Are we really going to go through this AGAIN? Endless insane marketing tactics, never telling the fans ANYTHING of worth, and then releasing the most disappointing content possible that seems deliberately designed to kill the series?

If this is all there is, I... I have no way of truly expressing how angry it makes me. God damn it.

VentAileron

2011-07-06, 16:07

Kaisos Erranon

2011-07-06, 16:20

I wonder why you would be so angry if you already knew what their 'endless marketing tactics' means in practice; you shouldn't have expected anything else.

They only do this with Haruhi. Other franchises don't dance around announcements of new content like this; I just think it's annoying and unfair to the immense, dedicated fanbase.

If I knew all the hype was actually going to have a reward at the end of it, I'd be more enthused, but the last time I gave into said hype I got the same episode eight times for two months.

During the three year hiatus of the novels, the series has been kept alive by the anime and the movie.

I think you were around at the time, but... Endless Eight pretty much killed all activity in this subforum during its airing. It's never really recovered.

That, more than anything, is why I don't like what Kadokawa is doing now.

Again, like I said, I'm probably jumping the gun here, as it's still early. I'm just bracing for disappointment.

VentAileron

2011-07-06, 23:56

If Haruhi is only series who gets this 'endless marketing tactics', doesn't that make the series special? That's the reason I laughed when Endless Eight started to iterate into the ridiculous. I don't remember being here on AnimeSuki though, I was too busy having fun during summer, just like the folks who did summer 15498 times. Every time I imagined the anger raging over the internet by it, I could only laugh.

Technically, there has never been a season 2. 2009's run was only called a re-airing. It was obviously meant to be a big stunt. Just look at the airing dates of each episode; give or take 2 weeks, the time of the events in the episode coincides with the airing time, with the exception of the first few episodes of Endless Eight. The original run wasn't much less of a stunt with the messed up chronology.

You probably know better than I do that the popularity of the series took a big hit there. It's arguable if it was the for the better or worse. Bamboo Leaf Rhasody and the first iteration of Endless Eight airing before the rest might have been the cause why you noticed the sudden drop of activity; because the discussion was at a peak.

Ah sorry for rambling on for this long, off-topic even. I'll stop after this comment. :heh:

Kadokawa has its own reasons for running things. Killing the series is the last thing they want to do. Although I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve, what I do get is a unique experience with something that should have been merely another show. A google translate of the following tweet from Kadokawa just before the Haruhi-negai announcement caught my attention.
"HARUHI NEGAI"のサイト、今晩24時以降にぜひアクセスしてくださいね。いろんな情報が交わされていますけれど、どれも違って、どれもあってる。もっと大きな気持ちをあつめて、何かにつなげていきたい。そんなことのささやかな始まりになるといいな、と思っています☆

"HARUHI NEGAI" sites, please visit us later I midnight tonight. Although many have been exchanged information, unlike any, I'll none. Collect the larger feeling, I would like lead to something. I hope it becomes such a modest beginning, ☆ We think

Maybe I'm just too much into the series. Haha. Haruhi-negai was meant to help people of Japan to mentally recover from the earthquake than anything.

AbZeroNow

2011-07-07, 01:45

Hey hey, calm down. Disappointment entirely depends on your own expectations. I wonder why you would be so angry if you already knew what their 'endless marketing tactics' means in practice; you shouldn't have expected anything else.

Besides, life isn't as interesting without things to look forward to. Think about it. If they dumped everything related to Haruhi (all the novels, all short stories animated) on one day, would the series have become what it is now? It would've been all over in an instant and the series would be completely forgotten a few months later.

During the three year hiatus of the novels, the series has been kept alive by the anime and the movie. Now Surprise comes along and we're all still here, Four years down the road, if you count from when the anime aired (when the series' popularity really took off) or 7 years if you count from when the first novel was published and the popularity of the series still hasn't diminished. I find that quite impressive for a series that doesn't air a single episode full of fillers every week.

Yes, it is true that disappoitment is a result of our own expectations and perhaps this was just going to be a way for Kadokawa to give back using Haruhi. However, when you set up a big buildup with having us wait a month to hear about it becoming available as an e-book and that some of the wishes people posted on the website will be hung for Sendai's Tanabata, it just feels that it wasn't worth waiting a month to hear it.

I actually agree with you that the waiting has certainly made us think of the franchise more, and it can be fun to highly anticipate something once you have something substantial to actually wait around for. I suppose that is it more than anything. We'd like to know for sure that there will be a new season and I don't think we'd mind waiting a while for it as long as we know that we are getting something rather than buildup that produces nothing. I don't actually mind following a thread, but Kadokawa hasn't even given us that yet.

Yes, it is impressive that there is still a lot of interest in the series with the period of time between them releasing material. You'd think they'd want to reward our loyalty or at least strike while the iron is still hot. I still have hope for seeing something new for next year, and so I will just wait for Kadokawa to tease us more when they feel like it. I hate the teasing, but at the same time, it makes every all the more thrilling when we finally get something.

ac195

2011-07-07, 08:19

I think you were around at the time, but... Endless Eight pretty much killed all activity in this subforum during its airing. It's never really recovered.

Are we all still raging about E8? Didn't, Disappearance wash away all the bad blood? Or are you the same poster that was also ripping on Disappearance even though you couldn't wait and watched the LQ cam-rip version?

What's the big deal with waiting for the next novel/anime/movie... it'll be here when it's ready. Hell, at least Tanigawa is still alive (knock-on-wood)... there are other fandoms who aren't so lucky you know...

Ithekro

2011-07-07, 08:45

I would think in terms of the Japanese fandom, a prayer from god to the gods would have a deeper meaning, especially after that earthquake. To those of us outside Japan, it would not mean as much, but to those directly effected?

Gamer_2k4

2011-07-07, 09:51

Are we all still raging about E8? Didn't Disappearance wash away all the bad blood?

If someone takes a dump on your kitchen table, it doesn't matter if they serve you up a seven-course meal afterwards. You're still going to hang on to some resentment.

AbZeroNow

2011-07-07, 12:14

If someone takes a dump on your kitchen table, it doesn't matter if they serve you up a seven-course meal afterwards. You're still going to hang on to some resentment.

I suppose that may be the viewpoint of some fans, but in the grand scheme of things, Endless Eight was not that bad. Yes, you got 7 extra filler episodes, but we can all name other popular series(one with highly visible ninjas) that have longer, and more absurd amount of filler. And look at this way, if E8 is the worst of Haruhi, things can only get better. I think we'll all forget or laugh about this in five years or so.

Anyway, getting back to topic, Ithekro has a good point that I didn't consider. Hopefully, people can find healing through what Kadokawa is planning on doing in Sendai.

Solachinx

2011-07-07, 17:12

Though, since Tanabata was more significant regarding the events of Bamboo Leaf and Disappearance (and since those have already come to pass) wouldn't it be more likely for similar viral marketing strategies to occur around dates significant to Snow Mountain and Intrigue?

Kaisos Erranon

2011-07-07, 17:41

ultimatemegax

2011-08-14, 12:45

I've just finished translating the roundtable with Tanigawa, Itou, two editors from The Sneaker Bunko, and a moderator. Here is a Surprise spoiler-free version in DOCX (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/roundtablespoilerfree.docx)/PDF (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/roundtablespoilerfree.pdf) form. (The fanbook, when I finish it, will have an e-pub version) If I tried to put it in BBcode, I'm sure something would get messed up.

Edit: There's a spoiler version in the Surprise thread.

s07195

2011-08-15, 11:49

Um...why does it say April 2004 when they are clearly referencing the earthquake this year?

But overall, nice job.

ultimatemegax

2011-08-15, 17:32

Um...why does it say April 2004 when they are clearly referencing the earthquake this year?

But overall, nice job.

Because I make mistakes. I won't have access to change the files until later this week due to internet issues at my apartment, so look for it to change later this week.

speedyexpress48

2011-08-15, 23:59

So, what, next winter?

Something tells me that it would likely occur around the winter afterwards.

Solachinx

2011-08-16, 19:22

Something tells me that it would likely occur around the winter afterwards.

So, winter 2012? :(

speedyexpress48

2011-08-17, 23:24

So, winter 2012? :(

Knowing Kyoto Animation, probably winter 2012 at the earliest. Tho they might also scramble some episodes to make that work...

ultimatemegax

2011-08-26, 20:15

Found the paperback cover of Wavering today. This novel's color: orange!
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/th_waveringpaperbackcover.jpg (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/waveringpaperbackcover.jpg)

speedyexpress48

2011-08-28, 01:00

keri

2011-08-28, 12:35

Eh, looks like the same image with a different color. Otherwise it isn't bad I guess.

Huh? Everything except the black part is changed. They do have a similar style to all the covers - icon of some kind at the top, black bar with Haruhi silhouette in the middle with "The _____" around it in white, and a band of stripes on the right. But the icon at the top, the font used for the title (which is hand-drawn), and the colors in the stripes are all different.

speedyexpress48

2011-08-29, 23:58

Huh? Everything except the black part is changed. They do have a similar style to all the covers - icon of some kind at the top, black bar with Haruhi silhouette in the middle with "The _____" around it in white, and a band of stripes on the right. But the icon at the top, the font used for the title (which is hand-drawn), and the colors in the stripes are all different.

I said it looked like the same image, not that it was exact. Tho after taking another look at all the covers...I see what you mean.

brypally

2011-08-31, 02:42

where can i read the novel of haruhi suzumiya in english?? and where should i start? ive recently watched the anime version

spawnofthejudge

2011-08-31, 07:27

where can i read the novel of haruhi suzumiya in english?? and where should i start? ive recently watched the anime version

You can buy the first novel in English (Bargain Paperback) on Amazon for < $4. (http://www.amazon.com/Melancholy-Haruhi-Suzumiya-Nagaru-Tanigawa/dp/B0057DALNG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314793416&sr=8-1) (Hardcover for ~$10)

Novels 1-5 are available for purchase in English, each in the $8-10 range. Six is scheduled for a November 2011 release.

(All prices in post in USD)

Gamer_2k4

2011-08-31, 10:05

where can i read the novel of haruhi suzumiya in english?? and where should i start? ive recently watched the anime version

Not to promote piracy or anything, but if you can find copies of the books online, it might be better to read those first to determine if you like them before buying anything. I find that, to me, the texts are only worth anything because I've seen the anime first and I have a clear picture of every scene in my mind. When reading the later books, the prose just feels flat and dull.

Obviously you shouldn't take my word for it, but that's all the more reason why you should try before you buy.

typhonsentra

2011-08-31, 11:11

..... So, that Yuki comic.... yeah....

WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED!?!

Gamer_2k4

2011-08-31, 11:41

Um...what?

Ithekro

2011-08-31, 13:39

"What?" is exactly what is going throgh my mind. What Yuki comic?

typhonsentra

2011-08-31, 15:16

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheVanishingOfNagatoYuki-chan

It's normal and cutesy and then....

Ithekro

2011-08-31, 19:21

Interesting. Cliffhanger I see. Though I would guess the actual manga is ahead of this by a bit.

D-Gold

2011-09-01, 18:45

wow that cliffhanger. I hope everything turns out alright. I wonder where the story is going to go with a development like that

Ithekro

2011-09-01, 18:57

Well there are still a few characters missing. Arakawa for instance. I recall that in the Haruhi-chan version VN Yuki makes there is an incident of Arakawa hitting or nearly hitting the main character with his car. Perhaps this is something like that...though I've seen the "thinking about a long eventful future with someone scene that ends in tragic death" before....this doesn't seem like the series for that sort of thing. That and this would be about the right spot for the start of a new Volume, being right after their big hot springs trip that took several chapters.

ultimatemegax

2011-09-12, 20:19

There's an article (http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-3938.html) in a Japanese magazine being published this week called Haruki and Haruhi. (The name and full details can be translated another time) In it, the authors went to the Dream Cafe that served as the model for the coffee lounge seen in the anime. In that shop, they have a message book for fans to write in. The authors found this message:

Tanigawa-kun, your dream has come true. I've watched the anime of Haruhi and it reminded me of those wonderful times back then that I dearly miss.
-The sole upperclassman girl of Nishinomiya High School's Literature Club

Yes, it's that person mentioned in the afterword of Disappearance. I thought it was a nice detail and wanted to pass it on to international fans.

GDB

2011-09-12, 21:01

So they (or at least, this magazine) have acknowledged that Haruki is a better name than Haruhiko, or is there some other meaning of Haruki that I'm not seeing in my dictionary?

Also, that's a pretty touching detail. Also nice that they actually read the notes.

ultimatemegax

2011-09-22, 22:20

Hey! Who wants release dates for Yen Press's Haruhi novels (http://www.yenpress.com/haruhi-suzumiya-novel/)?!

The Intrigues Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming June 2012
The Indignation Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming September 2012
The Disassociation Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming April 2013
The Astonishment Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming September 2013

It looks like Astonishment will only be Part 1 as they list it as only having 240 pages (but that is likely to change in two years). At least we have confirmation that they are sticking with the franchise until then.

Yumeka

2011-09-22, 23:17

Heminga13

2011-09-23, 05:54

spawnofthejudge

2011-09-23, 06:49

Melancholy (Apr 1, 2009)
Sigh (October, 2009) Six months
Boredom (Jul 1, 2010) Nine months
Disappearance (Nov 2, 2010) Four months
Rampage (Jun 7, 2011) Seven months
Wavering (Nov 7, 2011) Five months

Averaging six months (6.2 :)) and projecting into the future... (Disclaimer: this is a prediction based on the official data above, not official data itself)

VII (Scheme) - Late Spring/Early Summer, 2012
VIII (Anger) - Late Fall, 2012
IX (Dissociation) - Late Spring/Early Summer, 2013
X (Surprise) - Late Fall, 2013

...and possibly X.2 (Surprise pt 2) in 2014.

Hey! Who wants release dates for Yen Press's Haruhi novels (http://www.yenpress.com/haruhi-suzumiya-novel/)?!

The Intrigues Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming June 2012
The Indignation Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming September 2012
The Disassociation Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming April 2013
The Astonishment Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming September 2013

It looks like Astonishment will only be Part 1 as they list it as only having 240 pages (but that is likely to change in two years). At least we have confirmation that they are sticking with the franchise until then.

Glad to see they're consistent. :-P (Extrapolation for the win!)

If they're all listed as 240, that speaks to a placeholder... especially considering the longest page-count of any released novel in English is in fact 240... but if Astonishment is coming in Sept 2013, is that really enough time to get both parts translated?

I wish it so, certainly.

ultimatemegax

2011-09-23, 07:35

The last four books all list them as 240 pages, so I'm assuming it's just a placeholder amount. I'm thinking that since they don't list Astonishment as two parts they'll have both in one book.

Glad to see they're consistent. :-P (Extrapolation for the win!)

If they're all listed as 240, that speaks to a placeholder... especially considering the longest page-count of any released novel in English is in fact 240... but if Astonishment is coming in Sept 2013, is that really enough time to get both parts translated?

I wish it so, certainly.

Considering Intrigues is going to be the longest (assuming Astonishment is split into two volumes like everywhere else), it's certainly a placeholder. I believe these will change throughout the next two years as Yen will have more details when the works become finished. I'm just glad to see them licensed and have some kind of a concrete release date.

Can Astonishment be translated in full by September 2013? Yes, it's certainly possible and I wouldn't be surprised if Yen decides to do that. The problem will be the placement of the color pages and additional cover for the second book if a second book is not used. Maybe I'm too partial to the original release, but thus far it's been released as two books in every country thus far. Maybe Yen could cut us a break and release them together for once?

Edit since I don't see the need to double-post for this: Yen removed the listing for Astonishment around noon EST today. No reason is given. I'm curious as I sent an inquiry about some details regarding licenses/Astonishment's release details/etc this morning before the removal.

bayoab

2011-09-24, 10:03

Glad to see they're consistent. :-P (Extrapolation for the win!)

Yen Press has said before the ~6 month gaps are intentional to maximize sales and because they are being published as light novels.

.:Jason:.

2011-09-25, 13:40

So are there going to be more books after both Surprise novels or does it end from there?

GDB

2011-09-25, 14:22

Well it doesn't end there, but those are the most recent books.

ultimatemegax

2011-09-28, 15:35

I've gotten permission to post this here.

The Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya (the fanbook for the novels) has been fully translated into English. After battles with formatting, images, file sizes, and that damn timeline, I can now say it's finished. There are spoilers for the latest two novels, but it does not go past chapter 8 of Astonishment.

PDF (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/the-observation-of-haruhi-suzumiya.pdf)/DOCX (http://ultimatemegax.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/the-observation-of-haruhi-suzumiya.docx)/EPUB (https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0BzoQRm4_zEPgMzNlYTU2ZTgtYjZlMy00YzFjLThjMTU tOTZlOTM1ZWZiMDZj&export=download&hl=en_US)

This book was being worked on during the production of The Astonishment of Haruhi Suzumiya (First/Final) on sale 2011/5/25 (First Press Limited Edition) and 6/15 (Common Edition).
For readers new to the Haruhi Suzumiya series, we have started this book with Chapter 1’s Character Introduction. In addition, Chapter 2 (Each Volume Explained) provides a good introduction to the story’s world. Also included, for readers who have been with us from the start are three chapters to enjoy. Chapter 3 is a Question and Answer Session with Nagaru Tanigawa and Noizi Itou; Chapter 4 is a Reprinted Manuscript written by Nagaru Tanigawa that is an inquiry entitled A Study in August originally published in The Sneaker magazine; and Chapter 5 is a Roundtable Discussion featuring Tanigawa, Itou, and two editors.
We hope that this book brings a small, but new enjoyment to those who love the Haruhi Suzumiya series.

Table of Contents:
Timeline
Chapter 1: Character Introductions/Profiles
Chapter 2: Story Outlines
Chapter 3: Q&A
(50 Questions/50 Answers each from Nagaru Tanigawa/Noizi Itou)
Chapter 4: Reprinted Manuscript (A Study in August)
(A scientific inquiry into Endless Eight written by Tanigawa himself.)
Chapter 5: Roundtable Discussion
(With Tanigawa, Itou, two editors from The Sneaker and a moderator)
Chapter 6: Supplementary Information
Descriptions, dates, and basic information for other Haruhi-related media.

ultimatemegax

2011-09-29, 14:29

The Intrigues Of Haruhi Suzumiya: Coming June 2012

According to Hatchette Book Group's website, Intrigues has a final date of June 19, 2012. Look for more details to come forth in the Hardcover (http://www.hachettebookgroup.com/teens_books_9780316038959.htm) and Paperback (http://www.hachettebookgroup.com/teens_books_9780316038966.htm) pages when they are finalized.

Ithekro

2011-10-01, 23:22

Cliffhanger....over?

Yuki-chan???

Or is she Yuki again?

(Chapter 26 is out)

FDW

2011-10-01, 23:46

Cliffhanger....over?

Yuki-chan???

Or is she Yuki again?

(Chapter 26 is out)

Oh yeah, I saw that a few days ago, I'm wondering what happened there…

Ithekro

2011-10-02, 00:17

If it is our alien friend....will Haruhi be happy about it?

ultimatemegax

2011-10-04, 11:01

The Back cover text has been released for The Intrigues of Haruhi Suzumiya:
After closing a time loop fiasco in The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (Vol. 5), our protagonist Kyon is ready to start a new year with a blank slate--no time travel, no apocalyptic worries, and maybe some actual peace and quiet with the SOS Brigade, a club comprised of his high school's most extraordinary students. Their leader is Haruhi, a bold, brash girl who doesn't realize that she's actually a powerful goddess whose moods can easily change the balance of the universe.

Just as Kyon starts to get comfortable, he gets a visit from his friend Mikuru. Except this isn't his Mikuru; it's a Mikuru from eight days in the future! Time traveling shenanigans start all over again as Kyon, guided by the future Mikuru, attempts to stop a terrible future from becoming a reality.

(Yes, I kept the volume error. Sadly, that just makes it more evident it's from Hachette/Yen/Little, Brown.)

Also this volume will have a Kindle version (http://t.co/X86zAxgv)!

s07195

2011-10-08, 10:17

So, I was looking in a light novel bookshop the other day and I saw a version of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya printed under 'Kadokawa Wing Books' of Kadokawa Taiwan. Is there any difference? Just thought I'd mention this because it was also mentioned in the Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found the answer. For anyone who's interested, it's a series started in both Kadokawa Shoten and Kadokawa Taiwan aiming to provide light novels and stuff to younger readers. (i.e. ones that are suitable for them) The Kadokawa Shoten versions have extra hiragana next to the kanji (based on what I read in observation), and I have yet to find out what's different in the Chinese version.

Corrupting 'em early, I see... :heh:

ultimatemegax

2011-10-08, 10:25

So, I was looking in a light novel bookshop the other day and I saw a version of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya printed under 'Kadokawa Wing Books' of Kadokawa Taiwan. Is there any difference? Just thought I'd mention this because it was also mentioned in the Observation of Haruhi Suzumiya.

The Kadokawa Tsubasa (角川つばさ文庫） label is a re-printing of popular novels or original novels designed to be read by elementary/middle school children. These books have a bigger font as well as furigana beside any kanji. It's the exact same text, but with these guides to help children read it.

Ithekro

2011-10-08, 23:43

Collecting converts to Haruhism early.

AbZeroNow

2011-10-14, 14:12

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-10-14/yen-press-adds-madoka-magica-soul-eater-not-yuki-chan

Yen Press just became 36% more awesome by licensing Yuki-chan. DO WANT!

bayoab

2011-10-16, 02:58

No info on 10 yet. They had fully licensed the series before 10 came out.

ultimatemegax

2011-10-16, 20:34

No info on 10 yet. They had fully licensed the series before 10 came out.

Thank you for the information. I sent an e-mail asking about their license as it applies for 10/11(?) when it was listed on their website, but never got a response.

ultimatemegax

2011-10-24, 08:14

I was Wavering to post this excerpt (http://software.newsstand.com/bookrdr/hbg-live/BookBrowse.html?a=14%2BeXSb5uJie9ugoVV8sOXKSij531H KtzWgQaxYY96WVh%2BoiCBc1LZNsbMJLPQ2wnjIa%2FM6yHR0t IvCgPkrdSc7wwOe4LsmB2asdMzJtAYs7TVOtxvsdUMQX0YrFB0 VZ&z=hbg) or not since the real copy will be shipping soon from retailers, but here's a sneak peek.

(They switched translators from Chris Pai to Paul Starr. I've already seen one translation I can't say I'd do, but it's somewhat understandable.)

RRW

2011-10-24, 19:32

any rumor/info about next volume?

spawnofthejudge

2011-10-25, 07:07

any rumor/info about next volume?

Amazon has a listing for Intrigues (http://www.amazon.com/Intrigues-Haruhi-Suzumiya-Nagaru-Tanigawa/dp/0316038954/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319544377&sr=1-7), with a June 19, 2012 date attached. And Wavering is shipping (http://www.amazon.com/Wavering-Haruhi-Suzumiya-Nagaru-Tanigawa/dp/0316038911/ref=pd_sim_b_1); the cover has appeared and Amazon lists it In Stock.

typhonsentra

2011-10-27, 07:44

He probably means Japanese releases.

Ithekro

2011-10-27, 11:00

Likely way too early to hear about Book 12.

spawnofthejudge

2011-10-27, 11:13

He probably means Japanese releases.

Right after context of a ultimatemegax post talking about English releases? Silly me for assuming he'd otherwise specify.

Likely way too early to hear about Book 12....this too.

typhonsentra

2011-10-27, 16:52

Right after context of a ultimatemegax post talking about English releases? Silly me for assuming he'd otherwise specify.

...this too.

I see nothing in his post that'd point to him actively participating in the ongoing discussion in the thread. I doubt most people in this thread actually wait for the official English releases anyway. I buy them to support the series, but it'd be crazy to wait 3+ years to read something that's already available online.

ultimatemegax

2011-10-27, 23:18

Quick note on the translation. Here's a couple of changes that were taken by Yen Press from the fan/Bandai version:

"Starling Inferno" is now "Star Ring Inferno"
"Haru-nyan" is fully translated to "Haru-meow"

It's late in my time zone, so I'll double-check tomorrow for any other changes that I missed.

ijuinkun

2011-10-28, 22:37

Well, the "Star Ring" bit definitely makes more sense that way. Dunno about the Haru-meow--while "nyan" is usually translated to "meow" as the sound of a cat, it loses the context where it's supposed to be a cute-ish version of "-chan".

bhl88

2011-10-30, 14:20

Just like Azu-meow.... yeah I guess that's a good solution.

ultimatemegax

2011-10-30, 16:44

It shows a lack of consistency between releases. On pg. 131 and 136 of Rampage the previous translator had "Haru-nyan" translated as "Harls." The new translator has a different translation and none of the editing staff bothered to catch it. Thus we have two different translations for the same nickname in Japanese for the official English releases.

Personally, I liked "Harls" as it signifies Tsuruya's addition of "s" on various words (which wasn't kept by the new translator) as a little verbal tic. It's a good translation of a nickname without going literal like "Haru-meow." This is why it bugs me, but others may feel differently.

ultimatemegax

2011-11-07, 15:38

The cover arts for The Intrigues of Haruhi Suzumiya have been revealed.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/416xQxS0NxL_SS500_.jpg (Paperback)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/51yIMqPpJ4L_SS500_.jpg (Hardcover)

They are set to be released on June 19th, 2012. Summary is as follows:
After closing a time loop fiasco in The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya (Vol. 5), our protagonist Kyon is ready to start a new year with a blank slate--no time travel, no apocalyptic worries, and maybe some actual peace and quiet with the SOS Brigade, a club comprised of his high school's most extraordinary students. Their leader is Haruhi, a bold, brash girl who doesn't realize that she's actually a powerful goddess whose moods can easily change the balance of the universe.

Just as Kyon starts to get comfortable, he gets a visit from his friend Mikuru. Except this isn't his Mikuru; it's a Mikuru from eight days in the future! Time traveling shenanigans start all over again as Kyon, guided by the future Mikuru, attempts to stop a terrible future from becoming a reality.

AbZeroNow

2011-11-07, 18:06

I guess that summery wasn't checked by a proofreader?

Wow at the wrong volume for Disappearance and them saying that they're trying to "stop a terrible future".

Thanks for providing us the covers for Intrigues. I received my copy of Wavering on Friday, and I have read through part of it. I noticed in the "Live Alive" story, they mention Pop Music Club instead of Light Music Club. I am not sure if the fan translated version had the same as that. Not sure how I feel about "Haru-meow". I kinda liked "Starling Inferno" better than "Star Ring Inferno" because it just had that Engrish feel to it, plus it sounded like a lawyer-friendly nod to Star Light Breaker.

FDW

2011-11-10, 04:39

Hmm, Chartreuse, I wasn't expecting that.

orangejuicetang

2011-11-26, 01:36

English Astonishment set roughly two year from now?
Well, I suppose I've waited quite a long time already.

>.>
*Completely missed the fan translation

Ithekro

2011-11-30, 03:10

Nagato Yuki-chan continues. But who is Nagato? Almost the normal (alien) Nagato...but she is not quite (she blushes). But she isn't quite the Alt-Yuki anymore either. (but then the Nagato Yuki-chan alt is like a alt version of the Haruhi-chan Yuki...with the gamer parts and the antics with Ryoko).

One step and a time, Kyon. One step at a time.

ultimatemegax

2011-11-30, 21:19

Astonishment's first press edition sold 435,124 (about 85% of the first pressing) this fiscal year according to Oricon (http://www.oricon.co.jp/entertainment/ranking/2011/bookrank1201/index09.html). Since the set contained two books, that's 870,148 novels sold from one release. The series itself sold 1,094,466 books this year. (Taken from the amount sold (http://www.oricon.co.jp/entertainment/ranking/2011/bookrank1201/index08.html) for Tanigawa and adding another 435,124 (for the 11th novel) to it)

Only Index, Haganai, and Infinite Stratos had more total books sold this year.

Ithekro

2011-11-30, 21:59

Well if anime require lead time to make...that's I suppose two year until it could be possibly animated? Including figuring out how to make sure it works with the existing unanimated material (research, writting, scripting, animating, and so on).

Solachinx

2011-12-04, 21:04

I guess that summery wasn't checked by a proofreader?

Wow at the wrong volume for Disappearance and them saying that they're trying to "stop a terrible future".

They have a section on Yen Press's site for the novels now, and so far the synopses match those of the previous releases. Here's their synopsis for Intrigues:

"It’s a new year, and Haruhi Suzumiya, the powerful (and pushy) leader of the SOS Brigade is actually…content. For once, she’s not seeking out time-traveling exploits, murder mysteries, or any other wild adventures that could lead to the destruction of the universe. Surprisingly, it’s Kyon, the most normal member of the SOS Brigade, who wants to shake things up. When Kyon discovers that something’s not right with the universe, it’s up to him, his pal (and secret crush) Mikuru, and the beautiful but stoic Nagato to head back to the past in order to save the future."

I haven't read Intrigues (lol, got taken down before I could get to it). Is this better? (I know it's better than getting the ordering of your own series wrong)

ijuinkun

2011-12-04, 22:03

The "all three of them head to the past" is really only for the prologue part--it's still not mentioning that the main part of the story involves a Mikuru from eight days in the future who needs to be kept hidden from Haruhi and the "present" Mikuru.

ultimatemegax

2011-12-12, 16:54

Top selling book on Amazon Japan in 2011: Suzumiya Haruhi no Kyougaku (Limited Edition set) (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_62509049_2?ie=UTF8&docId=3077106856&pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=0J5EVQYDT07XM559RSXJ&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_p=108686209&pf_rd_i=3077106856)

Ithekro

2011-12-12, 20:02

Well if that doesn't give the television producers ideas, nothing will.

bantayso

2011-12-19, 10:47

If you looked at the first page of the anime thread (also known as the peaceful times before the anime aired and brought with it a swarm of new fans), you'll know that there are two different manga adaptations for Suzumiya Haruhi.

The first manga adaptation, which serialized on the comic magazine Shonen Ace back in 2004, was drawn by Mizuno Makoto. Unfortunately, the manga was received poorly among the fans because both the drawing style and the thiet ke website (http://bantayso.com) storytelling were too different from the original novel. The manga was cancelled after only a single tankoubon release in September of 2004 (The cover is shown in Neosam's post above). For most people, this manga has been swept into kurorekishi (dark history). In other words, "it never existed".

The second (current) manga adaptation is drawn by Tsuganogaku, and began its serialization on Shonen Ace back in November of 2005, and is currently still ongoing. The first tankoubon (volume) of the manga is due to be released on April 26, 2006.

I doubt most people in this thread actually wait for the official English releases anyway. I buy them to support the series, but it'd be crazy to wait 3+ years to read something that's already available online.

Solachinx

2011-12-20, 10:28

ultimatemegax

2011-12-20, 12:46

So, I was looking at the cover for Intrigues and it looks like the cover for Waverings is placed behind the cover for Intrigues. Particularly in the lower left corner where you can see a bit of what looks like Haruhi's red arm band. Is this just me, or do you guys see it too? And if so, do you think it'll be cleaned up before release?http://www.yenpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/HARUHI7_INTRIGUES.jpg

It appears that they cleaned the top part of the image, but no other part as the sailor uniform and part of Haruhi's hair is also visible. Since it will be published in June, it's highly improbable that copies have been printed already, so there would be a decent chance that it will be fixed. I'll tweet and e-mail this to Yen to alert them of this mishap. Thank you for finding this and bringing our attention to it.

I checked, and the JP cover does not have this issue, so it is a Yen problem.

ultimatemegax

2012-01-15, 22:03

So, I was looking at the cover for Intrigues and it looks like the cover for Waverings is placed behind the cover for Intrigues. Particularly in the lower left corner where you can see a bit of what looks like Haruhi's red arm band. Is this just me, or do you guys see it too? And if so, do you think it'll be cleaned up before release?http://www.yenpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/HARUHI7_INTRIGUES.jpg

http://www.yenpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Tanigawa_TheIntriguesofHaruhi_HC.jpg
A bit late in noticing, but they have replaced that image with a fixed version. The listings still use the version from September, which has the problem, but if you click on the image, it uses the fixed version. The other listings on Amazon et al may not be corrected though.

RRW

2012-01-16, 01:35

Well if that doesn't give the television producers ideas, nothing will.

it will happens. is just matter of time

Dokuro-Chan.

2012-01-17, 19:05

Two questions...

1) The Light Novel came before the manga correct?

2) Where can I find Haruhi Suzumiya Light Novels 10 & 11 (English)?

Ithekro

2012-01-17, 19:46

It is based on a series of Light Novels, yes.

They have not gotten up to translating Books 10 and 11 (officially) yet. They are still on Book 7, I think.

Dokuro-Chan.

2012-01-17, 20:07

It is based on a series of Light Novels, yes.

They have not gotten up to translating Books 10 and 11 (officially) yet. They are still on Book 7, I think.

Well I have the Light Novels 1-9 they are in full English so... I figured that 10 & 11 would be out or out soon.

Javiersansano

2012-01-17, 20:35

they've ben out for a while, at least the unnofficial translations

search for them

Dokuro-Chan.

2012-01-17, 20:58

they've ben out for a while, at least the unnofficial translations

search for them

Thanks :D any way I have acquired both 10 and 11 now :)

Ithekro

2012-01-18, 03:36

Well I did say "officially" :D

To other things, Nagato-chan is still cute even if she's not quite like she was before (Chapter 29). She's becoming less like the Haruhi-chan version mixed with the Disappearance Nagato and more the normal universe Nagato...mixed with the Disappearance Nagato. Though I do like the gamer girl Nagato we had before...this is looking like a possbile perfect fusion. We'll see he her emotions work...since she is displaying a little here and there...even if she seems more like the Bookworm (alien) Nagato more than the Shy Nagato from Disappearance.

(An embarrassed "Normal/alien" Yuki is fine too)

That and since this isn't (mostly) in the Haruhi-chan style...Nagato shows off some leg for sports...I keep forgetting how good they draw her legs to look.

ultimatemegax

2012-02-05, 19:13

Hatchette's sites aren't up yet, but a search for "Haruhi" on their main site leads to two new listings for Indignation. The 8th English novel will now be released on November 20th, 2012.

Edit: Summary from Amazon listing:
Two stories continue the adventure in Volume 8 of the Haruhi Suzumiya series.

Editor-in-Chief, Straight Ahead!
Since the beginning of the year, the SOS Brigade has been masking as the Literature Club to be recognized as an official high school organization. But when the new student council president threatens to disband the group, the members must write a collection of literature. Naturally, Haruhi assume the role of editor-in-chief and leads the team to publication with hilarious results.

Wandering Shadow
From writers to detectives, the SOS Brigade does it all. When fellow classmate Sanaka comes to the club seeking help, the team (well, Haruhi) is up to the task. A well-trodden popular park path has suddenly begun to terrify the neighborhood dogs, and Haruhi suspects that its being haunted by animal spirits. It looks like the SOS Brigade is about to perform its first first canine exorcism!
It's real; we have a mistake in Sakanaka's name. The JP version uses さかなか beside her name, so it is that.

Pinwheel10

2012-02-09, 20:47

It's real; we have a mistake in Sakanaka's name. The JP version uses さかなか beside her name, so it is that.

Um, who was mistaken, the official translation or the unofficial?

ultimatemegax

2012-02-09, 21:46

Um, who was mistaken, the official translation or the unofficial?

It's gotten to be a habit that the back cover of Yen Press's novels have at least one mistake, so it's the official translation that's wrong (though the inside will be correct). In the past Yen has messed up volume numbers and the back cover of the first novel has Kyon sitting behind Haruhi. Of course the inner portion is translated well.

(I've seriously double-checked the JP editions. Both novel 8 and the fanbook have it as Sakanaka.)

GardenAll

2012-02-12, 10:29

It's gotten to be a habit that the back cover of Yen Press's novels have at least one mistake, so it's the official translation that's wrong (though the inside will be correct). In the past Yen has messed up volume numbers and the back cover of the first novel has Kyon sitting behind Haruhi. Of course the inner portion is translated well.

(I've seriously double-checked the JP editions. Both novel 8 and the fanbook have it as Sakanaka.)

Maybe you should contact they about it:

http://www.yenpress.com/about/

I guess that the novel isn't all printed yet...

Classified Info

2012-02-16, 12:32

ultimatemegax

2012-02-16, 12:47

It probably got mentioned before, but i'm really tired by now (been lurking the forum for the past few hours):

Is there a website (that can at least be translated from jap to eng) where i can find new informations about the release of the 12th novel? And ye, classic question: is there already an approximate(no there isn't lol) date of the release of the 12th novel? Perhaps, even a clue will do (will it be released in 2012 or 2036?)

Sorry for the bother, i'm just too sick of backpaging ._., understand my feelings.

Nothing has been revealed since the fanbook for the novels came out in June of last year. That simply said Tanigawa was working on it last April. We've had nothing said since then.

Edit: For the Eng. releases, RightStuf is holding a Yen Press sale starting today until Feb 27. Novels 1-7, Manga volumes 1-13, Haruhi-chan 1-5, and Yuki-chan volume 1 are all included at 33% off retail price.

ultimatemegax

2012-02-25, 00:07

This month's Shounen Ace announced a couple of things relating to the Haruhi series. First, the June edition (released in April) will have a cover drawn by Noizi Itou as well as a double-sided pillowcase. On one side: Haruhi;on the other, Sasaki.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/8d6c3674dddcff55bc5c57c495fff639.jpg

Secondly, starting with the 5/18 edition of Altima Ace released in April, Puyo will begin a new manga entitled The Intrigues of Itsuki Koizumi.

Ithekro

2012-02-25, 00:26

Intrigues of Itsuki Koizumi? Will if there was anyone designed for intrigue, it was Itsuki.

That reminds me...how is the Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan doing? Still going?

ultimatemegax

2012-02-25, 00:34

Intrigues of Itsuki Koizumi? Will if there was anyone designed for intrigue, it was Itsuki.

That reminds me...how is the Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan doing? Still going?

Still coming along every month in Young Ace. It even has the cover for the edition released next week (April 2012 edition).
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/ultimatemegax/Haruhi%20Images/10d3eb5b542f7d00c3ecd9d05bb21d3e.jpg

Late edit that didn't deserve a new post. Here's the magazines that the Haruhi manga series have been published in:
Shounen Ace: Haruhi (original series manga) & Haruhi-chan
CompAce: Nyoron Churuya-san (2008-2009)
Young Ace: Yuki-chan
Altima Ace: Koizumi

Ithekro

2012-02-25, 01:31

Always nice to have more Yuki.

Game8910

2012-02-25, 16:57

A series dedicated to Koizumi? Do want! This guys is a complete mystery

mrthuvi

2012-02-29, 08:05

We know almost nothing abt Koizumi's personal life. This could be interesting.
But the Yuki-chan manga was painfully slow and the art style is not good at all.

Pinwheel10

2012-03-01, 02:26

Oh great, Koizumi x) I actually like how Puyo draws him in Yuki-chan :3