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Danji Ikari
2006-04-10, 01:34
I am interested in labelling the process of making an anime out of a manga whilst completely changing the ending, character's psychological integrity, and plot-points. Has this already been done?
If not, then who here concurs with me that the act of doing such is destined to be called the "Gainax effect"?
For references see Kare Kano (His and Her circumstances) manga and Anime.
bluemist
2006-04-10, 01:43
In my book, it's called the "Negima effect".
See Mahou Sensei Negima.
MrProphet
2006-04-10, 05:48
I call it... well... "crap ending" is one thing I call it.
For references see Kare Kano (His and Her circumstances) manga and Anime.
Which had nothing to do with Gainax whatsoever. Read up more on the subject of Anno's relationship with Hakusensha (the manga company).
I am interested in labelling the process of making an anime out of a manga whilst completely changing the ending, character's psychological integrity, and plot-points. Has this already been done?
If not, then who here concurs with me that the act of doing such is destined to be called the "Gainax effect"?
For references see Kare Kano (His and Her circumstances) manga and Anime.
I have some doubts that you have read the complete manga.
Kare Kano was faithful up to the volume of the manga that existed when the anime ended. After the Sports fest it was to be a whole arc about Tsubasa and her brother, but the anime didn't continue past that.
Don't blame Gainax for that. Gainax can be blamed for a lot of stuff. (Eva for one) but Kare Kano issues were pure politics.
Both FLCL and PPY ended pretty firm, so you cannot say Gainax effect. Mahoromatic's Ending was the Manga ending so you can't say that either.
In my book, it's called the "Negima effect".
See Mahou Sensei Negima. More specifically, it should be called the "Xebec effect", considering how Xebec has been known to change various manga stories when it came to the anime.
Overall, it's known as a description for "shinya anime waku" (late night anime slot) shows.
If it's airing late at night around the 24~26:00 time slot (it can be on a large network, obscure UHF channel, or BS/CS satellite - doesn't matter) and is slotted for only 1 or 2 kur (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=508232&postcount=30) at most, it is likely to have an original ending. Anime based on ero/bishoujo games ends satisfactorily, however it tends to choose one character over another (usually the main heroine, but not always the case).
justsomeguy
2006-04-10, 15:20
Didn't the Eva anime come out before the manga?
Didn't the Eva anime come out before the manga?
Yes. The manga is still being released, in fact. The mangaka in question works at a glacial pace, and the manga is not really the same story as the anime at all. It's a "re-imagined" version, which changes the character dynamics substantially. I don't like it much.
justsomeguy
2006-04-10, 17:51
Yes. The manga is still being released, in fact. The mangaka in question works at a glacial pace, and the manga is not really the same story as the anime at all. It's a "re-imagined" version, which changes the character dynamics substantially. I don't like it much.
In that case, the "Gainax effect" is a completely inappropriate term, unless we're gonna use it to refer to a company continually squeezing a decade-old cash cow dry.
I support TnAdct1's "Xebec effect." How they managed to turn WIN into FAIL with Negima was unbelievable... though Disgaea is coming close.
Dragnfly@Gamefaqs
2006-04-10, 18:53
How can you possibly say it's coming close? It just started.
Anyhow, what we need is a good list of shows who's anime and manga have both ended of which we can decide how many have actually had different endings. Because if one or the other hasn't ended yet, there's no saying the manga won't turn around and have the anime's ending.
Kaioshin Sama
2006-04-12, 06:08
"Toei Douga Effect"
See Dragon Ball Z, Getter Robo, Mazinger Z, Sailor Moon, Slam Dunk, Yu-Gi-Oh, Great Mazinger..............
I'd say it was more appropriate to call this theory of yours the "Gonzo effect".
More specifically, it should be called the "Xebec effect", considering how Xebec has been known to change various manga stories when it came to the anime.
gah.... and I thought I'd finally gotten over the Xebec effect on Negima... must focus on PPD staff's take on Negima ... please be better.
I'd say it was more appropriate to call this theory of yours the "Gonzo effect".
While I agree Gonzo does change a lot of endings, I usually don't mind the changes.
Kaioshin Sama
2006-04-14, 00:27
Gonzo effect works too.
Gonzo effect works too.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
I'll never forgive them for screwing up GANTZ the way they did.
And I'll be really pissed if they ever get Blame!
I'll never forgive them for screwing up GANTZ the way they did.
Seconded, the gantz anime sucks compared to the manga :(
I call it "those SOB effect"
Seconded, the gantz anime sucks compared to the manga :(
I'll withhold my opinion of how much the Gantz Anime Ending sucks when I see the ending of the Gantz Manga.
Considering the mangaka went completely awol on the manga for 2 months I can no longer say the manga is superior.
animernq
2006-04-16, 14:43
Its hard to know how to end an anime, when there is no manga ending.
The best you can do is end the anime at the end of a manga saga (determine which one before you start) and hope that there are not too many unanswered questions (parts may need to be cut).
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