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Daniel E.
2006-04-29, 12:21
Been trying to ask this for a while now, so here goes:
Did the fox girls (Aruruu & Eruruu) names got changed in the anime?
I ask because I have seen a couple of places where their names are written as
Eluruu & Aluruu
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6990/g171ne.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g171ne.jpg)
I remember hearing something about how the japanese sometimes change the "L" sound for a "R" one, and was wondering if that was the case here.
There is no "L" sound in japanese, so they usually use "ru" instead of it, for example "coral" is written as "kooraru". So in cases of foreign names it is sometimes difficult to say is there a "l" or "r". If they that is official then maybe they should be written that way.
In Yesy's version they are Aruruu and Eruruu, I don't know about other groups. I listened how they pronounce those names and I couldn't hear any difference between the two r's.
Diaphanus
2006-04-29, 14:48
"エルルゥ" and "アルルゥ" probably are not non-Japanese names. They might be nonsense names in Japanese. Unless there are official sources that specifically use "l" instead of "r," I'd go with the "r." But if that picture is an official source, I'd use the spellings on it.
How many ep will the series have...
NightWish
2006-04-29, 16:00
26 -- or so says the series page (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/634.html) and ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5746). I'm sure xris will update the How Many Episodes: Answered here! thread eventually ;)
Here is a post I made from an anime-planet thread regarding the romanization:
(speaking as a representative of SS)
I guess we should've put in an explanation on the website or something. Basically, Utawarerumono has heavy Ainu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people) influences. The people in Tusukur's village all dress in Ainu-ish garb. Their village is situated on the northeastern part of the continent, whereas the Ainu are currently situated on the northeastern part of Japan. The names used have an Ainu flair to them, including ????, ???? and ?????. The Japanese word for the sung vocal traditions of the legends of the Ainu people are called ???????, though that is not the only interpretation of the title. Thus, considering all these Ainu influences, it seems appropriate to use their romanization system to bring forth the exotic quality that comes with it. Hence, Aruruw and Eruruw are romanized according to the official Ainu romanization system. The Ainugo Jiten (Ainu dictionary) published by Sanseido was used to determine the proper way to romanize Ainu (and in this case, the Ainu-ish language used by the people in Utawarerumono). To be a bit more specific, Aruruw is essentially 3 syllables in Ainugo: A ru ruw. The 'ruw' is the r consonant sound, followed by the u vowel sound and then ending with a consonant sound of w. Oh, and fun trivia fact, Tusukur means "sorcerer"/"magician" in Ainugo.
Daniel E.
2006-04-29, 17:23
"エルルゥ" and "アルルゥ" probably are not non-Japanese names. They might be nonsense names in Japanese. Unless there are official sources that specifically use "l" instead of "r," I'd go with the "r." But if that picture is an official source, I'd use the spellings on it.
Me thinks it's not. Can't really say for sure.
Edit: Oh and before I forget (again), thanks for the answers.
One of the extra cool things about this show is the representation of Ainu culture borrowings ... it gets little attention when people think of Japan.
SkyDragon
2006-04-29, 23:02
So far from what you seen, is this series any good? Would you recommend it?
bento-cube
2006-04-29, 23:37
Oh yes. Although this is coming from someone who can appreciate medieval stuff like Scrapped Princess. But yes, I'd recommend it without a doubt for the tailgra......I mean, stuff that unravels the identity behind Hakuoro, the masked man.
So far from what you seen, is this series any good? Would you recommend it?
short answer: yes... and yes.
Problem is that "good" is a meaningless word since we don't know what you like to watch. You might browse through the original thread for the series:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=27496
to get an idea.
Its a "medieval Japan-like" fantasy setting with lots of Ainu culture riffs. The people are genetically unusual ("fox-girls" is the easy way to describe it) for reasons not revealed yet. It is a mystery along with a looming epic war that involves a mysterious hero who has lost his memory. Though its rather pretty and cute, some of the sequences are pretty grim. Its nice to see a medieval fantasy setting with hardly any "magic" and no damned "D&D" races (elves, etc). I also like the Shinto-like religious riffs.
Some romance, some terror, reasonable amount of action after the introduction.
It would be nice if the animation were higher quality but they're doing a reasonable job for a tv budget series. I like the primitive style musical scoring.
edit: bento-cube speaks truth .. its all about the tailgra... I mean the mystery and political intrigue.
So far from what you seen, is this series any good? Would you recommend it?
Yes it is... but you shouldn't ask this here...
Simple Reason :
Everyone who posts in a specific forum thinks the series is good... otherwise they wouldn't post... or they would be trolls and tell you it's stupid and stuff like that, no matter how good it is...
Description of the show :
Short : BleachXNaruto would be the shortest way to describe it...
Medium :
The show is fantasy + action + slight touch of gore...
The main cast consists of cute characters and bleach type male characters from what I can tell...
The story seems to follow the same way Naruto does... basically multiple story show (little ones in the big one)... expect the little story telling ep here and there but the show should pick up eventually... I think ep4 should be it...
If you're searching for humor then don't expect much here... I suspect that the reason why most people label it as medieval is the lack of jokes... usually it's just the serious humor type not really the viewer oriented type(the filler type)
Fanservice is also absent...
P.S.
@NightWish - Thanks for the info :D...
:hmm: ... http://forums.animesuki.com/images/icons/icon5.gif was Naruto labeled a 26 ep show in the beginning... I really think this one looks like one of those big series... because of the cast...
bento-cube
2006-04-30, 11:05
Regarding the 'like one of those big series' comment, I highly doubt it, since the anime is loosely based off the game, and the game wraps its plot completely already. Besides, I know I (and probably Vexx) would appreciate more tailgrab. Mmmm tailgrab.
@blackcat: no, I label it "medieval" because that is the technology setting.... actually closer to Dark Ages countryside European style (800AD) or maybe Japanese Edo period or earlier. It has nothing to do with the humor factor ... "medieval" was full of humor (if a bit simpler).
To some extent, it exactly matches some D&D Japanese setting motifs minus most of the "magic" (so far).
Interesting that you label it a Naruto+Bleach (since Bleach was, mmmm, "ok" imo and I can't stand Naruto (again imo)
What attracted me to this show was a combination of the culture and setting plus the interest of watching how the relationship between Eruruu and Hakuoro evolve. I hope the latter isn't completely washed out by the "big story" - if this degrades into "verbal posturing -> fight -> recover -> fight" my interest will fall like a paralyzed falcon.
Crimen Scythe
2006-04-30, 14:08
If even Grandma can die in this series, does it mean that some other important char can also die? To put it simply, is any other important char going to die?
/mod edit: Added spoiler tags just in case.
When does Utawarerumono air on Japanese T.V.?
I seem to remember that it was on Mondays (I assume it's sometime late on Monday night / Tuesday morning). Could someone confirm or correct this?
Catgirls
2006-04-30, 15:13
If even Grandma can die in this series, does it mean that some other important char can also die? To put it simply, is any other important char going to die?
/mod edit: Added spoiler tags just in case.This is probably a good reason why I need to get that Spoiler Q & A thread going. ;)
Catgirls
2006-04-30, 15:18
When does Utawarerumono air on Japanese T.V.?
I seem to remember that it was on Mondays (I assume it's sometime late on Monday night / Tuesday morning). Could someone confirm or correct this?According to these two sources -- (Mahou Showtimes (http://www.mahou.org/Showtime) | Anime Spring Season '06 (http://hashihime.atspace.com/0604sched.html)) -- it looks like Monday @2:40 AM (or Tuesday 2:40 AM or is it Monday 26:40 ... hrmmm, well however one says that :heh: ). Using the conversion on Date and Time.com (http://www.timeanddate.com/), it looks like it's around Monday, 1:40 PM - EST for me.
:)
masakenji
2006-05-01, 04:12
i got a bad feeling this anime going to end bad, since the history of Ainu, they always lost against Japan.
but i am crossing my fingers :D, someone should get Zhuge Liang and Han Xin in there to secure their victory.
I think the thing to remember is that they're borrowing Ainu motifs... the villagers are not actually Ainu. In fact, there's some indication (the mutations) that this may be far into the future or a completely alternate reality.
Actually, its interesting to me that pretty much every country has their own versions of folk heroes who rise to overthrow unjust/oppressive and just plain incompetent rulers. There's a reason "rule of law" and regular free elections are a Good Thing.
Actually, its interesting to me that pretty much every country has their own versions of folk heroes who rise to overthrow unjust/oppressive and just plain incompetent rulers. There's a reason "rule of law" and regular free elections are a Good Thing.
Ah, that makes a great connection for something that'll happen around midway through the series! Thanks for the comment (and remind me if I forget to explain it once we get there)!
Daniel E.
2006-05-01, 15:51
Does an official manga version of Utawarerumono actually exists??
If not, are there any plans or rumors about one in the future??
Remember, I am not asking for a link or an address to download anything. I just wanna now if a manga exist or not. Dont come crying to me if you get banned for postings things you were not supposed to in the first place.
There is an official one being serialized in Dengeki G's, but it looks more like random comedy side-stories than anything at this point.
Daniel E.
2006-05-02, 01:39
There is an official one being serialized in Dengeki G's, but it looks more like random comedy side-stories than anything at this point.
That sounds interesting.
Not what I was expecting to hear, but at least I got my question answered.
Thanks :D
http://forums.animesuki.com/images/icons/icon5.gif How do you translate Utawarerumono...
I've seen it translated as "The one being sung" or "That which is sung" or "Those which are sung" .... my understanding is that it is a label for the traditional stories and legends sung or chanted and the word has Ainu linguistic connections. Think of old stories sung by ancient peoples as they sit around the fireside in the evening.
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-02, 09:23
So it's kinda like the Bard's Tales, or Song of Sages or something like that?
Historic accounts that are turn into songs so that they will be remembered and passed to the next generation...
right?
:)
aye.... like Homer's Odyssey, the tales of Ulysses, or the original Beowulf. Beowulf is actually pretty cool sounding in Old English but it might as well be a foreign language to most people. When I studied it in college, the prof had a nice habit of placing the script in three columns:
/Modern English/Middle English/Old English .... suddenly all those mangled syllables made sense and you could see the evolution of the language. He had a good voice and would sometimes chant the original script excerpts. People would even stop outside in the hall to listen.
Tales that were chanted or "sung" (makes it easier to remember for oration) often by people who specialized in storytelling.
There is also a different meaning which will be explained in the final episodes...
"The one who is admired"
If the 'uta' was translated as 'song' then the 'mono' would have been translated as 'thing' as opposed to 'person'. So it would have been "The thing which is sung".
"The one being sung" doesn't make sense from a Japanese context because you don't 'sing' someone like you do in english (unsung heroes) so it would never have been written like that.
Well this is what a friend told me and he said it was the people on 2ch who complained about the mistranslation by fansub groups.
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-05, 08:08
"The one who is admired"
If the 'uta' was translated as 'song' then the 'mono' would have been translated as 'thing' as opposed to 'person'. So it would have been "The thing which is sung".
"The one being sung" doesn't make sense from a Japanese context because you don't 'sing' someone like you do in english (unsung heroes) so it would never have been written like that.
Well this is what a friend told me and he said it was the people on 2ch who complained about the mistranslation by fansub groups.
2ch people complain about everything. :rolleyes:
I'd pay more attention to 2chan if it weren't for the problem that I trust my Japanese professors more than them - particularly in regard to 2chan's command of the english language and what makes a good translation. "The one" doesn't necessarily refer to "someone" in English --- also corresponds to "the item" or "the thing" or even "that".
The professor I trust the most in translations thought "That which is sung" carried the best intended meaning of the words in context of "that" being the ancient chants of heroic stories and legends.
I too did wonder if what was the true meaning of "Utawarerumono".
I did refer this to my japanese language teacher and after some time he told me that it is translated as Uta(song), wa(topic marker), reru(sung) mono(things or person). Since uta(Song) was at the front, so mono will be refered as "things" to support the subject at the front.
"The song that was being sung" was his conclusion.
I do thing this makes sense.
I too did wonder if what was the true meaning of "Utawarerumono".
I did refer this to my japanese language teacher and after some time he told me that it is translated as Uta(song), wa(topic marker), reru(sung) mono(things or person). Since uta(Song) was at the front, so mono will be refered as "things" to support the subject at the front.
"The song that was being sung" was his conclusion.
I do thing this makes sense.
... I seriously hope you only misheard your Japanese language teacher...
While there may be debate as to which kanji it is (though there's a very good chance one particular one is correct one, based on the context with which this word was used in the game), it should be fairly certain that
うたわれるもの is broken down into うたわれる decribing もの, with うたわれる being the passive form of うたう.
As for the Ainu-related definition mentioned by Vexx, this is the page I use as reference:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030113054851/http://www.ipc.hokusei.ac.jp/~z00323/history/readings/ainu/ainu_jr/jr_ainu02.html
... I seriously hope you only misheard your Japanese language teacher...
While there may be debate as to which kanji it is (though there's a very good chance one particular one is correct one, based on the context with which this word was used in the game), it should be fairly certain that
うたわれるもの is broken down into うたわれる decribing もの, with うたわれる being the passive form of うたう.
As for the Ainu-related definition mentioned by Vexx, this is the page I use as reference:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030113054851/http://www.ipc.hokusei.ac.jp/~z00323/history/readings/ainu/ainu_jr/jr_ainu02.html
No, I am serious of what he says. Actually, the traslation varies and can be up to the person who translate it. Even the earlier tranlation was "Not really human" is being rejected and a few more different translation pop out. So I do think there is no definate one but since many prefer "The one being sung" is also accurate in my opinion since the fansub use mono as "the one".
As vexx mentions もの can have various meanings. 者 which is person or 物 which is things. So for now I assume we agree that "The one that is being sung" cannot be correct because as I mentioned earlier if the うた meant 歌 then 者 cannot proceed it because it doesn't make sense in japanese.
As for translations I probably wouldn't trust 2ch (different from 2chan) compared to my professor's either. But this isn't actually a translation issue (well not in the sense of between one language to another). It's an issue of understanding what the hiragana is.
While うたわれるもの can mean
歌われる物 (The thing that is sung)
it can also mean
謳われる者 (The one who is admired)
(謳われる【うたわれる】
(v1) to be admired; to be stipulated; to be clearly expressed)
and it is the second one that the people on 2ch believe to be the correct interpretation of the hiragana.
In terms of context it also makes sense because hakuoro will go on to do many great things and will recieve the people's admiration (even at ep4 it is already evident that he is someone the villagers admire).
But it is up to you on how you interpret it I suppose.
Hehehe, actually, when I ask my teacher to translate it I never tell him where I got this from...So he based it on the dictionary.
I suppose you are right on this. The title reflects on the person who does great things.
As vexx mentions もの can have various meanings. 者 which is person or 物 which is things. So for now I assume we agree that "The one that is being sung" cannot be correct because as I mentioned earlier if the うた meant 歌 then 者 cannot proceed it because it doesn't make sense in japanese.
As for translations I probably wouldn't trust 2ch (different from 2chan) compared to my professor's either. But this isn't actually a translation issue (well not in the sense of between one language to another). It's an issue of understanding what the hiragana is.
While うたわれるもの can mean
歌われる物 (The thing that is sung)
it can also mean
謳われる者 (The one who is admired)
(謳われる【うたわれる】
(v1) to be admired; to be stipulated; to be clearly expressed)
and it is the second one that the people on 2ch believe to be the correct interpretation of the hiragana.
In terms of context it also makes sense because hakuoro will go on to do many great things and will recieve the people's admiration (even at ep4 it is already evident that he is someone the villagers admire).
But it is up to you on how you interpret it I suppose.
If you really want to know what the non-Ainu-legend meaning is and you know Japanese, go play the game. The word is used only once in the game, and it is used right before the last battle.
Like many clever sayings, it is probably intended to be interpretable in a number of ways like a subtle pun. :)
Seriously.... it makes sense to me that "songs" and chants tend to be made about individuals a people admire so I can see how linguistically the term could overlap. Languages are full of idiomatic expressions that don't really mean what their "literal" translation might imply or be subtly different.
Takemi_Ikazuchi
2006-05-06, 06:04
If even Grandma can die in this series, does it mean that some other important char can also die? To put it simply, is any other important char going to die?
/mod edit: Added spoiler tags just in case.
Let's get this over with then..
.................................................. .................................yes
PastPrime
2006-05-06, 13:46
Like many clever sayings, it is probably intended to be interpretable in a number of ways like a subtle pun. :)
Seriously.... it makes sense to me that "songs" and chants tend to be made about individuals a people admire so I can see how linguistically the term could overlap. Languages are full of idiomatic expressions that don't really mean what their "literal" translation might imply or be subtly different.
Like what they did with one of those hand held English - Russian translating devices. They translated the old saying "Out of sight, Out of mind" to Russian and back to English. What they got back was "Invisible, Insane." A literal translation that is very different from the actual meaning.
Ah yes... its always fun to "Babel fish" sentences -- English->Japanese->Slavic.language.of.choice->Chinese->English
will often get you hilarious results.
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/leaf/1128851094/282-296
They seeeeeeeee usssssssss........... (and also are kinda arguing over the name as well...)
What's the gender of the archers, Dori and Guura?
KBTKaiser
2006-05-12, 23:22
Game-wise: they're males.
Anime-wise: we'll have to wait and see until the early teen episodes for that conversation, I think.
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-13, 09:42
i wonder, would the fans cry murder if they turn out to be females?
:p
Well, when I found out they were actually guys, I cried murder lol Cos it ruined the shoujo ai factor. Now it's shounen ai :X (I'm more into shoujo ai then shounen ai ;o )
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-13, 11:30
i like lesbians too. :)
Whitemoon648
2006-05-15, 23:51
I heard the game is a role playing one. what system is it on?. PS1/2 Or another role playing game for PC?.
I heard the game is a role playing one. what system is it on?. PS1/2 Or another role playing game for PC?.
It's a PC game.
Yeah there's an iso for it floating around somewhere on the net D: I tried installing it but it wouldn't work DX
PhantomX
2006-05-16, 00:18
i like lesbians too. :)
This response was great XD
I just find it odd that the twins are males ... but they have tails? o__O
KBTKaiser
2006-05-16, 00:25
The message runner in ep 6 had a tail also...
PhantomX
2006-05-16, 00:28
Didn't notice that ... I just figured that it was only the females that had tails ... oh well, I'm gonna have to pay more attention *focuses*
How old do you think everyone is? Since it Utaware was adapted from an h-game, we should assume the girls you get to screw around with are over 18 right? D:
How old would you say Aruruu is? >_>; My friend's accusing me of being a pedophile even though he's the one that's over 18 lol
My guess is around 14-12 even though she sounds a bit younger >_> But that's probably cos she's shy, right? ;o
How old do you think everyone is? Since it Utaware was adapted from an h-game, we should assume the girls you get to screw around with are over 18 right? D:
Actually, Japan's age of consent is 14, iirc. And there are plenty of h-games with the protagonists screwing much younger girls, so there's nothing really legal to say that everyone is 18+.
How old would you say Aruruu is? >_>; My friend's accusing me of being a pedophile even though he's the one that's over 18 lol
My guess is around 14-12 even though she sounds a bit younger >_> But that's probably cos she's shy, right? ;o
I think Aruruu is about 10 or 11.
The rest, no clue really. Eruruu might be 18-ish. Yuzuha seems older than her. Kamyu, probably a little younger than Eruruu. The rest, Urutorii, Karura, and Touka all seem over 20.
You have to think of this in medieval terms .... the village probably considers Eruruu damn near an old maid -- about all they didn't do in ep 1 and 2 is push Eruruu on top of Hakuoro. A girl of 14-18 was usually married off pronto prior to the industrial age.
Japan's age of consent is as young as 14 *socially* but it kind of depends on where you're standing, who you are, and who's complaining. They passed a national law raising it a couple of years ago so the politicians could say they'd "done something to save the children" (mostly due to international prude pressure) but it appears to be mostly ignored by the Japanese themselves.
And now you know (of course you should also be aware the police may take an unfriendly eye to an over-18 male gaijin accosting highschoolers for a date so don't book your plane ticket just yet).
Finally, we also have no clue what the average lifespan is of these people in Utawarerumono. Nor do we know their cultural standards for "of age" though I'm assuming pre-industrial "ready to breed" is probably the answer.
Now as far as 21st Century odd little rules of the US, Japan, or other locales..... they just slap the "assume anyone you can bonk is over 18... we say so." labels on it to chase off the Nosy Neurotics.
How old do you think everyone is? Since it Utaware was adapted from an h-game, we should assume the girls you get to screw around with are over 18 right? D:
Heh, no, in ero-games everything goes, although they always seem to keep someone's age in the dark when they seem really young. And the age of consent in Japan is officially 13, but can range from 13 to 17 depending on prefecture (it's 17 in Tokyo). This doesn't mean it's illegal to show children under the age of 13 performing sexual acts in ero-games and the like though.
And if you're curious, no, in the game Hakuoro doesn't get to screw with Aruruu. :p
How old would you say Aruruu is? >_>; My friend's accusing me of being a pedophile even though he's the one that's over 18 lol
Like Shinova I'd also guess she's about 10-11 years old, judging from the way she behaves. And there's nothing wrong with loving Aruruu, we all do. ;)
This response was great XD
I just find it odd that the twins are males ... but they have tails? o__O
They just didn't think the later was all that popular with the ladies.
I heard the game is a role playing one. what system is it on?. PS1/2 Or another role playing game for PC?.
The PS2 port handled by Flight Plan (who makes Summon Night) is projected to be out this summer. I know I'm going to be preordering it...
The game is basically around 29 battles, SRPG style, but everyone has pretty much fixed classes. You have essentially four areas to put stat points into after the end of a battle: attack strength, physical defense strength, magical defense strength and combo number. The number of points you get depends on how many enemies that particular character took out, etc. The game is pretty much linear, but after you beat it once, you should be able to play through it a few more times with harder and harder difficulty levels. In the PC DVD version of the game, you can get awards for clearing the game under certain conditions. If you beat the game on one of the hard difficulties, you'll be able to get a bonus picture of Aruruw sitting by the riverside. If you get all the awards, she um... has a clothing malfunction D: Also, the DVD version allows you to hook up an accessory called the P/ECE onto your computer. Once it's hooked up, you can play a minigame with your characters on the handheld P/ECE, and level up your characters that way. (Normally, you'd only be able to level up your characters a lot by dying in battle, as your stats are preserved after dying). I guess the PS2 version wouldn't have the P/ECE support, but it would be fun to at least play those minigames or something.
Furudanuki
2006-05-20, 14:03
In episode #7, the leader of the winged people is referred to as "Horuyankuru". Can someone in the know please tell me whether this is his name, or a title of some sort? BTW, I'm posting this in Q&A instead of the episode thread just in case the response would constitute a spoiler for the anime.
It's "オルヤンクル" (oruyankuru). It's their term for the highest ranked priest/priestess of Witsarunemitea(a deity). Yankuru simply means a high priest/priestess. The Oru is kind of like a modifier, and is probably related to Owro (オゥルォ), the term people use for king/emperor/ruler, etc.
I have a little question.
What kind of Animal part has Benawi? :D
sorry for strange english ^^
I have a little question.
What kind of Animal part has Benawi? :D
sorry for strange english ^^
If they were a little more aggressive, Mukuru's mouth part would have Benawi. :p
Actually Benawi has furry ears a bit like Kurou's, they're just hidden by his hair.
If they were a little more aggressive, Mukuru's mouth part would have Benawi. :p
Actually Benawi has furry ears a bit like Kurou's, they're just hidden by his hair.
Thank you :)
Furudanuki
2006-05-21, 08:42
It's "オルヤンクル" (oruyankuru). It's their term for the highest ranked priest/priestess of Witsarunemitea(a deity). Yankuru simply means a high priest/priestess. The Oru is kind of like a modifier, and is probably related to Owro (オゥルォ), the term people use for king/emperor/ruler, etc.
Thanks for the info, zalas. That definitely makes a lot more sense than some of the strange things I was coming up with trying to parse the word by ear without having seen the kana.
I've always wondered, what kind of ears does Touka have? Cos they look a bit like wings or something D: (Shoot me if my guess is right D; )
I've always wondered, what kind of ears does Touka have? Cos they look a bit like wings or something D: (Shoot me if my guess is right D; )
I've considered them to be hawk/owl wings :/
It's a little weird considering that everyone else has either animal ears for ears, or bird wings for wings, but she has bird wings for ears. :confused: :p
It's a little weird considering that everyone else has either animal ears for ears, or bird wings for wings, but she has bird wings for ears. :confused: :p
Yeah, that's what I thought D: I was all like, "Wait...wtf?":eyespin:
KBTKaiser
2006-05-21, 23:18
they're still dog ears, IMO. >>; Just that the hair inside ear is pretty long. >>;
Wew, so Benawi actually is a kobold (or is it?) o_O"
D: Before, I used to think Touka was some kind of rabbit or hare or something of the sort. Then I looked closer and noticed her ears looked like wings.
D: Before, I used to think Touka was some kind of rabbit or hare or something of the sort. Then I looked closer and noticed her ears looked like wings.
There's actually a people in Utawarerumono who look something like rabbit-people (there's at least a couple featured in the OP. Kinda hard to see at this point though). But I'm not sure if they're rabbit ears, since they seem too smooth to be such.
So if Hakuoro the only human character? If so, I wonder why no one thinks it's strange that his ears are so different. Or maybe they think the ears are hiding behind the mask.
Or maybe they think the ears are hiding behind the mask.
Yes I'm one of those that think his ears are hiding in those pointy things of his mask. Thats why I think that he isnt human..
Well, i think hakuoro is not really a human, there is some kind of monster inside him, rite?
@Lost :
We have already seen Hakuoro's ears.., I belive they are shown in a very fast scene in the episode where Aruruu and Mukuru come to save him while he was fight Benawi; previously to that during while he was on the camp training the other men there is a part there where we can see his ears.
Or I might be mistakened ^^
Certain thing is.., there is a scene in a episode where they are clearly shown to be Human ears..,
I had intentions to refering to that when the episode discussion was on but I recon I ended up forgetting about it..
I am just sure though that they where shown, 100% sure.
@[H] :
Well..., out of everyone he clearly is the "most" human I belive.., but.., alot is still yet to know about him..
Regarding the monster.., its very possible you might be right ;)
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-23, 20:43
I don't think we show be speculating on what his ears look like, because from my point of view he has normal one, i think what we should be thinking about is wether Hakuro really have "horns" behind those on his mask? :p
Or he could be just hiding something REALLY ugly :O
XD
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-23, 22:27
Or he could be just hiding something REALLY ugly :O
XD
yeah. he might be a GIRL!
GASP! HORROR! oh wait..... YURI! :D
@Lost :
We have already seen Hakuoro's ears.., I belive they are shown in a very fast scene in the episode where Aruruu and Mukuru come to save him while he was fight Benawi; previously to that during while he was on the camp training the other men there is a part there where we can see his ears.
Or I might be mistakened ^^
Certain thing is.., there is a scene in a episode where they are clearly shown to be Human ears..,
I had intentions to refering to that when the episode discussion was on but I recon I ended up forgetting about it..
I am just sure though that they where shown, 100% sure.
Eh. My bad.
Scouring Ep5 with VLC at x0.13 speed, I got:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7882/aa37zh.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aa37zh.jpg)
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8956/aa49lf.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aa49lf.jpg)
So he does have particularly human looking ears... Dammit this changes everything :heh:
Hmm.. whats behind those protrusions? Horns sound logical, since the allusion to the dragons in the OP. But horns on a human.. are kinda sick.
Hmm.. whats behind those protrusions? Horns sound logical, since the allusion to the dragons in the OP. But horns on a human.. are kinda sick.
I guess it was episode 4 or so.., its realy a part where Hakuoro is standing still.., I will look it up better later, and if I can find the exact timeframe where his ears are shown I will post it asap.
Now, regarding the Horns, Lost :
I belive there is nothing behind the protrusions :p , you see.., the mask itself as I previously said is a "Oni" mask.., and thus protrainging as so, it HAS to have those horns; which means.. it doesn't necessarily state that Hakuoro has to have horns of his own.
I belive that in the end, the horns are just in the mask, probably even a hollow mold; to me, currently Hakuoro is just a plain human using a Oni mask which he cannot remove.
The purpose of the mask and its existence is well.., still unclear, despite many speculations and the fact that it definitly has some connection to his dragon form.
Is Hakuoro some kinda ninja or something? The way he runs away from Mutikapa in episode 2, it's exactly like the ninjas from Naruto. Teoro was running normally though.
Just thought to mention it. Right now I'm still on episode 3.
By the way, who is the VA for Yuzuha? Her voice sounds quite familiar for some reason, not sure where I heard it before. Anybody else wonder about Oboro's weapons? The first time Hakuoro met him (ep 3), Oboro's swords are both drawn on the left side. That's not really possible, is it?
Sorry for bringing up old episodes, but I've only just started the series, so it'll take me a while to catch up to the rest of you.
Mai Nakahara plays Yuzuha. She also plays Mai from My Hime.
in the OP, there's a samurai trenchcoat girl and a girl with a really big fan. what are their names? and when did they appear in the game?
KBTKaiser
2006-05-29, 10:05
The samurai one is Touka. She won't be around until maybe another 4-5 eps.
The big fan is Karura. That ain't no fan. That's a big blade that took 5 grown men to haul in, yet she carries it in one hand. She'll probably appear in 2-3 eps.
Furudanuki
2006-06-06, 20:08
I was showing the last several episodes of Utawarerumono to my local anime circle, and a question about Japanese linguistics came up that I hope someone here will be able to answer. Whenever the late unlamented emperor Inkara spoke, he ended every sentence with something that sounded like "nyamo" ( or maybe "nan de mo", but not sure that would make sense in context). I'm assuming that this is some sort of speech affectation used by a person of a privileged class. But can anyone provide some more information about what this means and where it comes from? Thanks!
shimonkin
2006-06-08, 07:13
I was showing the last several episodes of Utawarerumono to my local anime circle, and a question about Japanese linguistics came up that I hope someone here will be able to answer. Whenever the late unlamented emperor Inkara spoke, he ended every sentence with something that sounded like "nyamo" ( or maybe "nan de mo", but not sure that would make sense in context). I'm assuming that this is some sort of speech affectation used by a person of a privileged class. But can anyone provide some more information about what this means and where it comes from? Thanks!
"nyamo" has no meanings.
Real Japanese don't use it.
To put it briefly, it's similar to "nyo" of Di Gi Charat.
Furudanuki
2006-06-08, 09:44
"nyamo" has no meanings.
Real Japanese don't use it.
To put it briefly, it's similar to "nyo" of Di Gi Charat.
Thanks for your response! I don't recall ever watching Di Gi Charat, but I do understand what you mean - it was essentially a meaningless speech affectation used by that individual. So, I'll file that item under "irrelevant" and go back to waiting for the next episode to air. :)
It's interesting how Sasante and Inkara both used nyamo. Must be hereditary. Maybe if Nuwangi has a chance to get older he'll start saying nyamo too. :p (or his mother's genes cancelled out the nyamo effect)
At one point I kept thinking of Azumanga's Nyamo everytime Inkara went nyamo. :eyebrow:
Shini_GamI
2006-06-10, 04:16
In this image:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9995ow0qeydqjy5pl.jpg
What's her full name??
I have no idea what her name is.
In this image:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9995ow0qeydqjy5pl.jpg
What's her full name??
I have no idea what her name is.
That's Touka. ;D
She'll be coming up next ep.
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-25, 00:55
(1). Is Yuzuha actually blind? Her blindness is never explicitly brought up in the show. The OP suggests that she isn't, but then again those eyes look "dead." She never describes things in terms of how they look, but then again she seems to be the only one who is so sensory in her everyday speech.
(2). Are the flaps on the sides of Nuwangi/Sasante/Inkara's head ears, or cloth?
Ok, so Utaware is made after H-game, right ?
Then my question is : In the game, Who did What and with Whom ? :P
Ok, so Utaware is made after H-game, right ?
Then my question is : In the game, Who did What and with Whom ? :P
Hakuoro is the protagonist, so he's obviously the one who gets all* the action. Females nailed, or females he got nailed by as it was more often than not:
Offense:
Karura Drugs up Hakuoro by using some rare perfume
Kamyuu Freezes Hakuoro's body and has his way with him while he can't do anything (3 times no less), but is nevertheless fully concious.
Touka Jumps on Hakuoro after some candit advice from Karura about Hakuoro liking aggressive women. Also got told by Karura that children are made through the mouth, which lead to a fairly predictable result.
Yuzucchi Wanted to have Hakuoro's baby, told this to Oboro and Oboro begged Hakuoro to grant her wish (Oboro being rather drunk at the time.)And amazingly, he actually did get her pregnant.
"Normal":
Eruruw
Uruto
*Certain...implications about Oboro getting used by the twins as a plaything do appear in the game
:heh:
Drug-induced one time,
Raped two times,
Asked by a two-swords wielding drunked man very know by his bad temper one time.
Are you sure he really had any choice with the laters? ;)
Deathkillz
2006-06-25, 21:48
Hakuoro is the protagonist, so he's obviously the one who gets all* the action. Females nailed, or females he got nailed by as it was more often than not:
Offense:
Karura Drugs up Hakuoro by using some rare perfume
Kamyuu Freezes Hakuoro's body and has his way with him while he can't do anything (3 times no less), but is nevertheless fully concious.
Touka Jumps on Hakuoro after some candit advice from Karura about Hakuoro liking aggressive women. Also got told by Karura that children are made through the mouth, which lead to a fairly predictable result.
Yuzucchi Wanted to have Hakuoro's baby, told this to Oboro and Oboro begged Hakuoro to grant her wish (Oboro being rather drunk at the time.)And amazingly, he actually did get her pregnant.
"Normal":
Eruruw
Uruto
*Certain...implications about Oboro getting used by the twins as a plaything do appear in the game
godammit hes such a lucky lucky bastard :heh: still kinda sick...hes not particulary attractive or anything...on the other hand these experiences might have put him off women forever...maybe even turn him gay...scary thought
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-06-26, 01:43
Wow, it wasn't an exaggeration that Hakuoro bangs every single (major) female except Aruruu. If he did have fun-fun with Aruruu.... I don't know, I would have to crawl into a corner and never eat and drink again or else, walk into the ocean tied to a big rock.
I was half expecting a plot point about Oboro and Yuzuha not being related = mad pseudoincestuous SECHS action. (Un)fortunately I was wrong.
Wow, it wasn't an exaggeration that Hakuoro bangs every single (major) female except Aruruu. If he did have fun-fun with Aruruu.... I don't know, I would have to crawl into a corner and never eat and drink again or else, walk into the ocean tied to a big rock.
I was half expecting a plot point about Oboro and Yuzuha not being related = mad pseudoincestuous SECHS action. (Un)fortunately I was wrong.
You don't mean Hakuoro...
...was banged by every single (major) female except Aruruu? :heh:
Like Cruss said, in most cases he did not really had much of a choice.
As for Aruruu, you'd want to see that don't you, you lolipedo-fin! :p
I have a question.
The game is only in japanese or was it translated in english?
I would like to play it, but i don't understand japanese at all :).
the game has never been translated to english
Touka Jumps on Hakuoro after some candit advice from Karura about Hakuoro liking aggressive women. Also got told by Karura that children are made through the mouth, which lead to a fairly predictable result.
Hahahahaha... I can't believe Touka fell for that!?! WTH... :uhoh:
Hi everyone I have a question and I need a help:
I want to play the Utawarerumono pc game but the language in Japanese and I don’t understand it, so is there anyone can till me what’s the key's that we use in the keyboard and how to use the attack and is there any special attack and how to make it? Thanks.
:confused:
Looool, the one for Touka and "lead to a particularly predictable result" is priceless!
Man, Karura is just great, very sneaky and all. And the voice actress, same as Caster in F/SN fits perfectly the character.
I don't think that they'll make nobody hook up apart from Hakuoro since one can obviously assume Hakuoro will end up with Eruruu and other couples would be really great as well.
But who knows before the end?
And France reaches the Finals! YEEEEAAAAAH! Even though the game was really not worth it...
Key Board
2006-07-12, 19:09
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sorry, wrong thread
@ Lost
She's just like a little kid... :heh:
Hmmm... I wonder how old she is... then again... is there any info on how old the characters are suppose to be... :D
^ Justice must really have blinded her silly. :) Hey, I second that request.. how old are the characters? I'll guess that Touka must be around 25-26?
Jaradcel
2006-07-30, 12:42
For those who were wondering if you could play Utawarerumono in English, there is a (convulated) way of doing so
Details is to use a program called Text-hooker. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to cross-post a link from another forum here, so mods feel free to edit it out and people can just PM me or something.
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36807
Note that you'll need to register to look at it (because it's behind the, er, hentai forum *ahem ahem*) but it's a solid walkthrough. Cheers!
ok just wondering.... is it confirmed that this series is actually 26 eps? it just seems too short since the story behind utawarerumono is going to be extremely deep.
Key Board
2006-08-03, 02:00
It's more than enough
The game had 29 battles
It's more than enough
The game had 29 battles
I'm impressed you bothered counting, but what does the number of battles have to do with the length of the series? It's not like most of the battle scenes would be that important, and I'd say most people would be more interested in the story rather than the (rather bad at times) CG animation battles.
I was expecting them to cut out Karura's arc for time when the story was moving on a bit slowly, so I'm a bit suspicious about how they'll handle all the endings things (which in my opinion were all far more important than Karura's arc, which had very little to do with the main plot) in the episodes they have left now. Not that it would be impossible, but I get the feeling that it will feel kinda rushed.
Key Board
2006-08-03, 04:03
you sound a bit upset..
29 battles = 29 intermissions = plausible to fit in 26 episodes
Karura's arc will end in 19 or halfway of 20
leaving 6 more episodes
which is enough for the final arc
I have a question. What isKamyu? Does she have split personality or is half vampire/demon or something so that she spaces out and is thirsty in the anime ( or drinks blood and humps Hakouro in the game or so i read.) and then doesn't remember anything ?
oh and a game question when did Hakuoro "do" Urutori :D
roxybudgy
2006-08-03, 07:56
I have a question. What isKamyu? Does she have split personality or is half vampire/demon or something so that she spaces out and is thirsty in the anime ( or drinks blood and humps Hakouro in the game or so i read.) and then doesn't remember anything ?
oh and a game question when did Hakuoro "do" Urutori :D
Kamyu's other personality is "Mutsumi", the Iceman (Hakuoro)'s "daughter". I can't really explain it that well.
As for Ututorii, there was a lost babyy which was given to Urutorii to look after, and she got attached to the baby. But then they found the baby's mother and returned the kid to her. Urutorii was upset, and stuff happened leading up to Urutorii and Hakuoro doing it.
My Japanese isn't too good, so I might be a bit off.
Well what you've given me is good enough i guess . tnx
sedukshun
2006-08-05, 16:37
are these ppl foxes and dogs and cats or something ~ theres a variety of ears and i cant really tell wot animal they are *blush*
Onizuka-GTO
2006-08-05, 16:42
The animales thay seem to be base upon which are so far I can tell,
Human (Main character)
Dogs, (maybe Foxes, canine based anyway)
Rabbits, (Or Hare)
Big Feline, (Tiger)
Birds, (one with wings)
Might be more but we haven't seen any shadow warriors yet.
:p
I thought this thread was supposed to be free of game spoilers? <_<
Anyway, the thought of using machine translation with Utawarerumono is really funny, almost as funny as using it with Fate/stay night.
sasuke13
2006-08-08, 02:12
Is there a connection between Karura and Urutorii, or are they just past friends? (Seeing as they drunk sake together with no words in a past episode)
are these ppl foxes and dogs and cats or something ~ theres a variety of ears and i cant really tell wot animal they are *blush*
They're humanoids or possibly trans-humans with a bit of gene swapping. Mostly they're cute. We lose a lot of expressive ability without directable ears or tail.
Ear Wilt!!!
Is there a connection between Karura and Urutorii, or are they just past friends? (Seeing as they drunk sake together with no words in a past episode)I think there was some mention that they are past friends. Yuri, no.
@Furudanuki: Great and logical conclusion below, and thanks for that yummy sometime back. :)
Furudanuki
2006-08-08, 09:12
Is there a connection between Karura and Urutorii, or are they just past friends? (Seeing as they drunk sake together with no words in a past episode)
Urutorii is a princess from a race of people who serve as diplomats and mediators for the other empires, plus she has been trained as an ambassador and negotiator herself. Given what we learn about Karura in episode 18 - and with more no doubt to be revealed in episode 19 - it is reasonable to assume that Urutorii recognized Karura and knew who she really was.
sasuke13
2006-08-08, 10:27
Urutorii is a princess from a race of people who serve as diplomats and mediators for the other empires, plus she has been trained as an ambassador and negotiator herself. Given what we learn about Karura in episode 18 - and with more no doubt to be revealed in episode 19 - it is reasonable to assume that Urutorii recognized Karura and knew who she really was.
ahh, ok... 2 higher class people having drink would make sense now XD XD XD
Is that some kind of reference to the brand new shitty title American right owners have come with?
ChainLegacy
2006-08-13, 10:29
I don't know how the game works, but I remember reading someone referring to strength of individual units. I would assume that that would mean Benawi, Karura, Touka, Oboro, etc all have their own strength ranking? Does anyone have this information? (I'm just curious, so it isn't particularly important).
Also, if the above is possible, how powerful was Oyaji? :D
edit: Oh yeah, I was wondering something else. Is there any information on the original Hakuoro, Erruru and Arruru's father? If it is a spoiler or something, just telling me it's a spoiler is fine.
Psychoray
2006-08-18, 16:02
Will the anime have an happy ending? Or atleast, did the game have an happy ending? (I hate sad endings -_-)
And could anyone give me a list of all the people who die? (Atleast the major ones, don't care about random villagers :P)
And the final question: What happens to hakuoro in the end? Does he die? Does he leave?
I know not all questions can be answered for the anime, but i take it the game and anime share a rather similar plotline?
Thanks in advance :)
EVERYONE DIES!!!
Yep, thats right! ^^ :rolleyes:
Renegade334
2006-08-18, 16:48
Aw, don't mislead him, Clamp-X. I know it's sarcasm, but still...
Now, the ending has quite sad hues since, well:
- Yuzuha dies while giving birth to a child.
- Everyone basically splits up and goes tread his or her own road (since Hakuoro is gone and nothing binds them anymore...technically).
- Hakuoro is supposed to be once again sealed in a temple, leaving the others alone.
BUT: within the last minutes of the game, although it isn't directly shown, it is heavily implied that Hakuoro is un-sealed (okay, it's more complicated than that, but oh, well) and comes back so in the end it's a happy end, although we won't get to enjoy that particular part, which is left to our imagination.
Okay, bitter sweet.
Death count: hmmm...Dii, Yuzuha.
I guess the anime will end the same way but then again they might decide to change the ending especially concerning Yuzuha's death and some other points (the Eruruu-Hakuoro relationship) since it touches certain topics like ethics and whatnot. So it's 50-50 about the probability of the ending being tweaked for the audience's benefit. And that means 'we don't know'. Zilch. But expect the plot to be at least 75% faithful to the game.
Psychoray
2006-08-18, 16:54
Thanks for answering so quickly! :D
Xellos-_^
2006-08-18, 19:25
Aw, don't mislead him, Clamp-X. I know it's sarcasm, but still...
Now, the ending has quite sad hues since, well:
- Yuzuha dies while giving birth to a child.
- Everyone basically splits up and goes tread his or her own road (since Hakuoro is gone and nothing binds them anymore...technically).
- Hakuoro is supposed to be once again sealed in a temple, leaving the others alone.
BUT: within the last minutes of the game, although it isn't directly shown, it is heavily implied that Hakuoro is un-sealed (okay, it's more complicated than that, but oh, well) and comes back so in the end it's a happy end, although we won't get to enjoy that particular part, which is left to our imagination.
Okay, bitter sweet.
Death count: hmmm...Dii, Yuzuha.
I guess the anime will end the same way but then again they might decide to change the ending especially concerning Yuzuha's death and some other points (the Eruruu-Hakuoro relationship) since it touches certain topics like ethics and whatnot. So it's 50-50 about the probability of the ending being tweaked for the audience's benefit. And that means 'we don't know'. Zilch. But expect the plot to be at least 75% faithful to the game.
No wonder Benwai is so loyal. He is waiting in the wings to take over the Harem :D
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-08-19, 03:05
Aw, don't mislead him, Clamp-X. I know it's sarcasm, but still...
Now, the ending has quite sad hues since, well:
- Yuzuha dies while giving birth to a child.
- Everyone basically splits up and goes tread his or her own road (since Hakuoro is gone and nothing binds them anymore...technically).
- Hakuoro is supposed to be once again sealed in a temple, leaving the others alone.
BUT: within the last minutes of the game, although it isn't directly shown, it is heavily implied that Hakuoro is un-sealed (okay, it's more complicated than that, but oh, well) and comes back so in the end it's a happy end, although we won't get to enjoy that particular part, which is left to our imagination.
Okay, bitter sweet.
Death count: hmmm...Dii, Yuzuha.
I guess the anime will end the same way but then again they might decide to change the ending especially concerning Yuzuha's death and some other points (the Eruruu-Hakuoro relationship) since it touches certain topics like ethics and whatnot. So it's 50-50 about the probability of the ending being tweaked for the audience's benefit. And that means 'we don't know'. Zilch. But expect the plot to be at least 75% faithful to the game.My earlier guess was that Hakuoro would go batshit insane and kill millions of people and Eruruu would tearfully put him down due to some special power she has that can make her kill Hakuoro. Kinda like the ending to Old Yeller, plus the millions of deaths and special powers.
I guess I was way off....
Renegade334
2006-08-19, 04:34
Ahem.
What I wrote was the epilogue. The aftermath.
I said nothing about the final showdown. ^_^
Clue: battle of the titans
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-08-19, 14:01
So Eruruu does put him down Old Yeller-like?
I wonder if the people of the UW universe mimic some habits that their "base creatures" have. I hope not, lest we have this scenario:
http://sundrygoodness.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-doubt-utawarerumono-races-mimic.html
hitokirigirl
2006-09-01, 05:47
Hmm is it confirmed it's a 26 eps serie ?
I really can't see how they can end it in 4 eps now....
relentlessflame
2006-09-01, 11:54
Hmm is it confirmed it's a 26 eps serie ?
I really can't see how they can end it in 4 eps now....Yup, fully confirmed as a 26-episode show.
I really can't see it ending in 4 episodes either, but I'm pretty sure it ends in 26.
To Cardiac Glycoside: in the game you had to fight something...really big. But I don't see that happening here simply due to time constraints and answering questions about the series (if any). I remember Slayers TRY (1997) where the climatic battle at the end had a buildup of maybe 5-7 episodes prior. But there's only 4 episodes left and one of the two remaining story arcs isn't finished yet.
Episode 23: Largely dialogue, Kunnekamun arc will be 2/3 finished by episode's end
Episode 24: Remaining 1/3 of Kunnekamun arc shown, latter half of show all dialogue as pt of the final arc
Episode 25: All dialogue
Episode 26: All fighting and resolved conflicts/questions
I'm pretty confident that one of the following will occur at the end:
- The Utawarerumono producers will completely botch the ending from how the game portrayed it
- The entire epilogue that Renegade334 posted in the previous set of posts will be disregarded (it's technically NOT the ending)
- The ending will be so rushed that it will lack any emotional/dramatic comprehension.
I dunno, they'll have to try REALLY hard in 4 episodes to impress me. :|
hitokirigirl
2006-09-01, 12:18
Yup, fully confirmed as a 26-episode show.
Fuck, good stuff are alays short :mad: :mad:
thanks :)
The title of Episode 24 is "the guy who go to die"
The title of Episode 25 is "A historical ruin"
The title of Episode 26 is "Utawarerumono"
I just translate them by myself, do not laugh me =口=!
Thanks leaf., title of episode 26 is interesting. And ominous.
- The ending will be so rushed that it will lack any emotional/dramatic comprehension.
Going on the track record of this series so far, I'm thinking this will be most likely.
Renegade334
2006-09-04, 07:29
I believe they will drop a few things from the storyline in order to cram and process everything from the flashback arc, which is, IMO, the crux of the series' mysteries. However, if they do it so, I think they'll have to pull a Gundam Seed Destiny on us - make the penultimate eps all dialogue then only have the last one action-packed, which would make the contrast so hard it'd be almost painful.
And I'm beginning to agree with Zaris about the final ep. They'd have to drop the epilogue (what happens to every character after the last battle) and end the series on a certain event
Hakuoro being resealed after saying his goodbyesin order to make it in time...
...Unless they decide to increase the last ep's length to 30 mins or suddenly - and painfully - drop news of an OVA on our heads to explain how they're going to circumvent the whole timing issue.
But if they do what I just said above (before the spoiler tag), then I fear we'll end the series on a very sad/bittersweet note (the game does, too, but for other reasons)...or we'll be left hungering after a true conclusion.
And...
...Since the flashback arc shan't be compressed (otherwise we'll understand nothing about the UM universe and Hakuoro's past)...I'm particularly afraid about what shall become of the series' final action parts...which, IMO, should have taken a particular focus from the staff.
Since it's basically about a battle between titans and high-powered people.
It's like, you know, shooting a movie about WWII but ending it before the true, interesting climax - namely, D-day and the nuclear bombings.
Well, you can find plenty of ways around violent endings. Some of the best movies I've seen don't resolve with killing one another, but mind you, it is the simplest resolution that goes as far back as when man made fire. :O
I wouldn't be surprised if the climax of Utawarerumono occured in either one of the following ways:
- Hakuoro finds passivity in Eruruu, beit her words, her crying, or her singing (and as we know from episode 4, she is quite a singer)
- Hakuoro will slash his own throat (suicide is what I'm getting at. He'll kill himself)
- Urutorii, Kamyu, or some other third party will use magic and seal whatever evil it might be away
No matter the outcome, I'm sure they'll make it fit...or die trying. :P
I was watching again from the start. 2 thing I began to wonder about what race is Benawi and How does Urutori know Karura cause in quite few episode they seem to be pretty friendly toward each other.
Let's hope for the last ep to be an hour long. ^^
Deathkillz
2006-09-15, 11:35
- Hakuoro will slash his own throat (suicide is what I'm getting at. He'll kill himself)
crap having a think about that point and the title of ep 26 "Utawarerumono" or in english "The One Being Sung" (or something remotly similar) is quite possibly that hakuoro will die...its a feeling that makes me think that and seen as the word "sung" is kinda in the past tense :uhoh: hope its not true tho -.-
Benawi definitey has non-human ears (they are more like Niwe's).
I am sorry but I am not sure what you mean here. :confused:
Furudanuki
2006-09-15, 17:24
How does Urutori know Karura cause in quite few episode they seem to be pretty friendly toward each other.
I'll quote something I posted in an earlier episode thread...
Urutorii is a princess from a race of people who serve as diplomats and mediators for the other empires, plus she has been trained as an ambassador and negotiator herself. Given what we learn about Karura in episode 18 - and with more no doubt to be revealed in episode 19 - it is reasonable to assume that Urutorii recognized Karura and knew who she really was.
Since we found out in episode 19 that Karura was originally a princess and also was from a racial group that had almost been wiped out, it makes it even more likely that Urutorii figured out who she was very quickly. It's also quite possible that the two had met before if Urutorii's father had been to Na Tunk while Karura's family still ruled the country.
Thank you Furudanuki I guess I didn't take into account Urutorii race and their dealing with other nation. What you say it very logical reason to why they act friendly toward one another.
But if they do what I just said above (before the spoiler tag), then I fear we'll end the series on a very sad/bittersweet note (the game does, too, but for other reasons)...or we'll be left hungering after a true conclusion.
I'm starting to think that the reason why they make animes this way is to get people to buy the original game.
crap having a think about that point and the title of ep 26 "Utawarerumono" or in english "The One Being Sung" (or something remotly similar) is quite possibly that hakuoro will die...its a feeling that makes me think that and seen as the word "sung" is kinda in the past tense :uhoh: hope its not true tho -.-
You're taking the translation of "The One Being Sung" too literally, and that's not even the right translation as the title of the last episode is referring to something else.
Renegade334
2006-09-16, 16:50
I'm starting to think that the reason why they make animes this way is to get people to buy the original game.
Yeah, but even the game ends with a quite bittersweet tone AND a huge question that's only half-answered. The answer is kinda obvious (with a few, anvil-heavy clues strewn here and there and of course, only one possible explanation to offer) but don't get to see either the confirmation or whatever happens next, which, IMO, should have been an interesting moment. It's like a cliffhanger, but in a way, it's almost as if the game producers said, 'okay, drop the curtain, it's not like you need to see whatever happens next and, anyway, it doesn't matter'.
And, btw, although, yeah, it'd make people curious about the game and go buy it, there's still adult material inside and several themes
like pity sex with barely pubescent girls or relative (to a certain degree, I can't reveal more unless you ask for it, since it's a major spoiler) incestthat makes it not suitable for all ages.
SCKnight
2006-09-18, 16:56
Umm...Does anyone know where I post Utawarerumono fanfics here?
Also, I have an answer about the tail issue: it depends on the individual. Some men may choose to show it, while others chose not.
Here's another question: will Utawarerumono air on Adult Swim?
Hmm, I've tried reading this thread and the Ep 26 discussion thread but I still haven't found answers to a couple questions.
1) The title, Utawarerumono, where does it come from? There was no singing or songs of any significance in the anime.
2) Mutsumi/Kamiyu - Why is Mutsumi within Kamiyu? Why is Mutsumi still alive if she was already alive before the re-sealing of Iceman? What was Kamiyu's water drinking incident about? Is it simply a phase in the lives of the winged females or something (they might have actually explained this in the series but I just can't remember it)?
Lord Raiden
2006-10-11, 23:44
This response was great XD
I just find it odd that the twins are males ... but they have tails? o__O
Wait, I thought the twins were girls. o_0;; If not, what they did to that one guy was rather...well, f'ed up.
But with all that aside, what puzzled me as a hugely unanswered question is, what exactly happened at the end? The girls were out with that female tiger (gawds, I loved that tiger! I wish I could have hugged that huge kitty. ^_^) and suddenly they see something coming out of the woods and Eruru sees something coming in behind her and suddenly gets uber happy as though that masked guy (sucks that I can't remember his name. Augh!) she was in love with had come to greet her. Anyone have a clue if that's what happened? Or is that just speculation? And is there any talk of a second season? The ending was definately satisfying, but I almost wished for a very happy ending for Eruru. Going around and then having the guy she loved yanked away sucked.
roxybudgy
2006-10-12, 07:10
1) The title, Utawarerumono, where does it come from? There was no singing or songs of any significance in the anime.
The title refers to Witsuarunemitea, the one who is sung of (in other words, the one who is revered). The Chinese translate the title as "The one being praised".
InuyashaFury
2006-11-18, 09:56
I figured I'd post here (have no idea where this would better fit), but does anyone have a clue where to find an audio patch for the PC game (as the PS2 version had audio)?
I don't think there is such thing that exists for the Utawarerumono PC game...yet. I know that Kanon has an audio patch to its game. But for Utawarerumono? ...Doubtful. I mean, good luck getting Ryoka Yuzuki to V.A. Eruruu in bed, much less the other five women. = o
But hey, who knows?
InuyashaFury
2006-11-18, 21:02
Oh, no, no, no! I just wanted to see if (like with Kanon), anyone had stripped audio files from the console all-ages version so that those with the PC version could have the audio. On a related note, does anyone know if there's a translated script out there (like I've found for some games). ^^' Yes, fear my grasp of the Japanese language that consists solely of hiragana.
Though if such a thing could be arranged...let's just say I would be not the least bit displeased. :D
Nightfly
2006-11-20, 08:14
imo the biggest question unanswered would be... are dorii and guraa(?) boys or girls ?
relentlessflame
2006-11-20, 12:28
imo the biggest question unanswered would be... are dorii and guraa(?) boys or girls ?Well, there's a whole thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=32557) dedicated to that topic, in fact. The anime never provides any undisputable "proof" (they probably did that to "toy" with the audience), but there was no such ambivalence in the game, where...
They're unquestionably male.
That's the 10-second answer... obviously much more info can be found in the aforementioned thread.
Nightfly
2006-11-20, 15:04
ok thanks for the reply... :)
i didn't knew they were boys (but it could've expect it)
InuyashaFury
2006-11-20, 19:12
Well, I suppose I can hope at least, for a fully translated version. I mean, (I know it was a while back), but Ryoka Yuzuki did have a part in "Cool Devices".
So...you never know...;) *crosses fingers*
Whitemoon648
2006-12-04, 02:57
Can i Ask what is the song in the last episode ( from min 17 to 20) called :)?.
Thx alot in advance.
Also can some one put in sumary the details and time line from when Hakuoro was in Human world ( or the that satelite he was in) till he got in the their world.
P.S. Many more questions to come. :heh: . Also if some one make a complete time line of the whole series it would be so cool and appreciated :).
Well you obviously found the song in one of the threads here so that's all answered for.
As for the summary, it's quite short if you've seen the anime already (and it looks like you already have). I'll just fill in the blanks where I presume and know viewers got confused about:
- In the near future, man-to-be-Hakuoro discovers a fossil of a forgotten god in a labratory. This person is a scholar and assistant to a higher ranking scientist.
- Man-to-be-Hakuoro's senpai confronts him, says Mankind is not yet ready to face this missing link between apes and man, and silences his pupil by killing him.
- What you don't know: the blood of man-to-be-Hakuoro awakens the forgotten god, and in an effort to survive, fuses the two together (hence the mask). It's presumed that to survive, man-to-be-Hakuoro was preserved in ice
- At some point, man could no longer live on Earth's surface, so they researched genetics underground. They found a man preserved in ice, thawed him out, and called him Iceman.
- Discovering Iceman is able to live on the surface, they extract his genetic profile and use it as a template to create augmented humans that can live on the surface.
- 2 of the specimens have a sort of bond to Iceman, #3510 (Mikoto) and #63 (Mutsumi). The latter knows that she has Iceman's DNA in her body and thus addresses him as father. But Iceman doesn't reciprocate an equal amount of attention to Mutsumi, as he falls for Mikoto instead.
- A decision is made to cryostate Iceman again, and a sympathetic scientist (known as Mizushima) releases the security locks allowing Iceman and Mikoto (as well as many other augments) to flee from the confines of the lab.
- Some time later (at least 9 months for Iceman and Mikoto to have that baby you saw in the series finale), Iceman and Mikoto are found, captured, and taken back to the lab. Iceman is being prepared for cryostasis and Mikoto is dismantled for study (no doubt for her reproductive aspects).
- The anger felt by Iceman is felt by the forgotten god aspect of Iceman as well. The god, Witsarunemitea, awakes and wrecks the havoc you saw in the lab. However, another mental state within Iceman is begging anyone to stop the/his violence.
- Mutsumi answers his plea to end him. What you don't know: Mutsumi has a telepathic connection to a weapon-satellite directly above the lab. She activates the weapon and destroys the lab. The side effect of her attempt splits the two personalities apart (while, presumably, still in the same body) and Iceman is sealed underground.
- Without the humans to restrain them, the remaining augments escape and populate the planet.
- What you may be confused about: Onbitaekayan, Kuuya's tribe's Onkami (god), is presumed to be the one half identity known as Iceman. The Witsarunemitea Kuuya refers to in episode 17 as a liberator but a false god is the other half that everyone else worships. Who is who is somewhat confusing, but I mention this only to let you know that the augments were aware of Iceman in some fashion to eventually rise him up into a spiritual figure. Onkamiyamukai is designated the holy sect and birthplace of the augments - who universally call themselves humans despite how different they all look.
- What you don't know: At some point in the future (the time could be decades or centuries), Dii enters the holy chamber and obtains the darker, more violent side of Iceman. During this process, Iceman presumably woke up as well. The two transformed, fought, shook the ground, and Iceman was defeated.
- Looking for a place to recover, Iceman was drawn to the one thing that he still remembered well in his past - a ring that is the key to the lab. The person who had possession of it was Eruruu. In exchange for protecting Aruruu (who was mortally injured during Dii and Iceman's fighting), Eruruu would devote herself to Iceman.
- Events of the anime begin here. The real question is how Eruruu didn't see Witsarunemitea and Iceman to be of the same body. Granted, we never see it so we'll never know for certain. But for the game, the answer can be made to be pretty clear.
This should answer your q's.
Whitemoon648
2006-12-04, 20:34
Well you obviously found the song in one of the threads here so that's all answered for.
As for the summary, it's quite short if you've seen the anime already (and it looks like you already have). I'll just fill in the blanks where I presume and know viewers got confused about:
- In the near future, man-to-be-Hakuoro discovers a fossil of a forgotten god in a labratory. This person is a scholar and assistant to a higher ranking scientist.
- Man-to-be-Hakuoro's senpai confronts him, says Mankind is not yet ready to face this missing link between apes and man, and silences his pupil by killing him.
- What you don't know: the blood of man-to-be-Hakuoro awakens the forgotten god, and in an effort to survive, fuses the two together (hence the mask). It's presumed that to survive, man-to-be-Hakuoro was preserved in ice
- At some point, man could no longer live on Earth's surface, so they researched genetics underground. They found a man preserved in ice, thawed him out, and called him Iceman.
- Discovering Iceman is able to live on the surface, they extract his genetic profile and use it as a template to create augmented humans that can live on the surface.
- 2 of the specimens have a sort of bond to Iceman, #3510 (Mikoto) and #63 (Mutsumi). The latter knows that she has Iceman's DNA in her body and thus addresses him as father. But Iceman doesn't reciprocate an equal amount of attention to Mutsumi, as he falls for Mikoto instead.
- A decision is made to cryostate Iceman again, and a sympathetic scientist (known as Mizushima) releases the security locks allowing Iceman and Mikoto (as well as many other augments) to flee from the confines of the lab.
- Some time later (at least 9 months for Iceman and Mikoto to have that baby you saw in the series finale), Iceman and Mikoto are found, captured, and taken back to the lab. Iceman is being prepared for cryostasis and Mikoto is dismantled for study (no doubt for her reproductive aspects).
- The anger felt by Iceman is felt by the forgotten god aspect of Iceman as well. The god, Witsarunemitea, awakes and wrecks the havoc you saw in the lab. However, another mental state within Iceman is begging anyone to stop the/his violence.
- Mutsumi answers his plea to end him. What you don't know: Mutsumi has a telepathic connection to a weapon-satellite directly above the lab. She activates the weapon and destroys the lab. The side effect of her attempt splits the two personalities apart (while, presumably, still in the same body) and Iceman is sealed underground.
- Without the humans to restrain them, the remaining augments escape and populate the planet.
- What you may be confused about: Onbitaekayan, Kuuya's tribe's Onkami (god), is presumed to be the one half identity known as Iceman. The Witsarunemitea Kuuya refers to in episode 17 as a liberator but a false god is the other half that everyone else worships. Who is who is somewhat confusing, but I mention this only to let you know that the augments were aware of Iceman in some fashion to eventually rise him up into a spiritual figure. Onkamiyamukai is designated the holy sect and birthplace of the augments - who universally call themselves humans despite how different they all look.
- What you don't know: At some point in the future (the time could be decades or centuries), Dii enters the holy chamber and obtains the darker, more violent side of Iceman. During this process, Iceman presumably woke up as well. The two transformed, fought, shook the ground, and Iceman was defeated.
- Looking for a place to recover, Iceman was drawn to the one thing that he still remembered well in his past - a ring that is the key to the lab. The person who had possession of it was Eruruu. In exchange for protecting Aruruu (who was mortally injured during Dii and Iceman's fighting), Eruruu would devote herself to Iceman.
- Events of the anime begin here. The real question is how Eruruu didn't see Witsarunemitea and Iceman to be of the same body. Granted, we never see it so we'll never know for certain. But for the game, the answer can be made to be pretty clear.
This should answer your q's.
Thanks alot :).
Whitemoon648
2006-12-08, 04:08
More questions :).
Episode 24: what was genjimaru was asking dii to back down from ?. and what Dii was asking form Genjimaru.
Also did Dii kill Genjimaru or He was killed because he attaked him since they were in contract?.
Also was Kuya in some sort of contract?. if so what was it. Was the contract broken after Genjimaru died?. and How were every one saved from Genjimarus sacrifice?.
Also did Mitsumi took Kuya's voice away?.
Episode 25: why shouldnt Hakuoro and Dii see each other before they go back to sleep?.
Also i didnt really get the part where Hakuoro said i will tell you my real name and Eruru said "no".
Also Is Dii, Dii or the other side of Iceman took over him completely when Dii tried to obtain it?.
Episode 26:
WHo is Mitsumi and what is her role in all of these?.
Is the person who Iceman truns to those blood cell thingies the same person who let them escape?.
Since when Utori Knew about Hakuoro?.
Since How long ago Erruru Knew Hakuoro wasnt a human?.
Is Eruru , Mikoto?. wasnt Mikoto disected?.( by the way was the mikoto's child disected too?.)
Dori and Gura were serving Oboro because of their parrent's wishes? Can any one say how it went in the game in this matter?.
What is Ankuams?. Why were Touka and Karura runnign away while being chased away?.
Also Did Mitsumi seal Iceman in someother planet that the lab he was in ( and where was that lab located any ways?.
The place iceman was located already had its population ( Those fox, tiger, .... looking humanoids) or it started with Iceman?.
The lab Speciments awefully looked like the Fox humanoids in the place Iceman was sealed, were they related to them?.
Ok who is who :)?. From your reply It is confusing to know. But does the game mention which one is the Kuya's tribe god and which one is the Liberator god?.
K thats Probably all of my questions :twitch: .
P.S. I will give rep points to whoever answer my questions :D .
Holy Shakamoly!
Episode XXIV
- Genjimaru, the almighty honorable soldier of the Evinkuruga tribe, realizing he had committed many sins for assisting Kuuya in her bloody desire to unify the continent (so that her country would finally be at peace), left Kunnekamun to seek Hakuoro's aid. You know that Genjimaru had signed a contract with Dii - power for servitude. But servitude comes with a heavy price, and so Genjimaru was asking Dii to back down from the contract, while Dii was asking Genjimaru to maintain it. But since he broke the contract, you witnessed his punishment.
- Kuuya is part of the contract per sae. But when the contract was signed, it was during the reign of a previous ruler of Kunnekamun. This was part of Genjimaru's reasoning for going against Dii, that the contract was nullified a long time ago. Suffice to say, Kuuya was a pawn to Genjimaru and Dii. Dii used the Kuuya and her country to attain a higher glory through warfare (as is explained in the next episode); Genjimaru assisted in that attainment.
- Nobody was "saved" from Genjimaru's sacrifice as I recall. The price for breaking the contract was his life and the obliteration of Kunnekamun. But Genjimaru can live in the afterlife sin-free. I guess it depends on how you look at it.
- Mutsumi didn't take Kuuya's voice away. That was a result of a psychological breakdown on Kuuya's part after seeing her loyal guardian and her country in bloody ashes.
Episode XXV
- Why shouldn't they see each other before they go back to sleep? Because Dii's not finished attaining his high praise of his followers. His mission is not yet complete!
- Eruruu is worrysome for Hakuoro's sake. Although bound to the contract, the events of the series has caused her to fall in love with him. The fact that he has released her from the contract suggests that he is going to transform and fight Dii but he ain't not coming back. If you heard this, you'd be desperately worried too.
- You might say that. Dii obtained a more manevolent side of the half, Hakuoro retaining (or otherwise always retaining the benevolent side). It is far too general, however, to simply say "good" and "evil".
Episode XXVI
- Well I told you the timeline already, so it should be pretty obvious who Mutsumi is. She is regarded the Onkami's original ancestor and one of the first "new" humans to be born on planet Earth. Remember her designation No. 63? She knows who she comes from (in other words, who she shares DNA with) and as a result, has a strong attachment to Hakuoro/Iceman. However, in the past, Iceman rejected her for Mikoto. This thought presumably led her to follow Dii instead. But the wishes of her father is her wish as well, she believes. Call it an Electra Complex. As long as Hakuoro exists - evil or good - Mutsumi will be there to protect him no matter what happens. She is also very dangerous as you saw, with telekinetic powers and a link to a forgotten weapon-satellite in Earth's orbit.
- Nope! The scientist who let Hakuoro and Mikoto escape is never heard from again after he done his deed. He probably received swift punishment from his superiors as he predicted would happen.
- Urutorii had always known about Hakuoro. She's not as clueless as the rest. There are a number of hints that link Hakuoro to Witsarunemitea (the mask, for example). Urutorii probably just saw it faster than most.
- This is a complicated question. You might say Eruruu didn't know Hakuoro wasn't human as late as episode 22 in the anime. But in the game, you could (emphasis on could) regard Eruruu to have always known since the very beginning. Which one you want to take depends on you and how you saw the series.
- Eruruu is NOT Mikoto. Eruruu is presumed to be a decendant of Mikoto but there is no evidence to justify a blood tie. References of their link is based solely on how similar they look. The baby that Iceman and Mikoto had could have been disected or it may have been left behind in the care of others. Once again, there's no way to tell since we never see it again. (I go into this in great depth in my Overall Series Discussion thread)
- Dorii and Guraa serving their parents' wishes? That's the first I heard of that. There's no canon reference to their parents at all. Perhaps you misheard something. = |
- The Av Kamus are, in the game, the suits of armor used to recover Iceman and Mikoto. It's unfortunate that the anime didn't portray this important fact. Once man was extinct, Dii supposedly got hand of the Av Kamu units and gave them to the country of Kunnekamun to make the country powerful and to further his goals.
- Touka and Karura were running away after trading their own soldiers for sake (which made their soldiers hella mad).
Miscellaneous
- Mutsumi sealed him in rock (ever notice why Yuzuha said Hakuoro had that soil smell?). "Seal" could mean anything, though. Just use your imagination. The lab was located where Onkamiyamukai is, as they declared it their responsibility to preserve the ancient land where man was first created.
- It begins with Iceman. His DNA was sampled to create various human augments. When the lab was destroyed, surviving augments fled the lab and populated the entire continent. They're all in one way or another related to Iceman - fox, wings, cats, bunnies, you name it.
- Hakuoro IS Witsarunemitea. The other half that the country of Kunnekamun have faith in is manifested in Dii. Makes clear?
jellybeans
2006-12-11, 22:45
O.O wow thanks for all that information Zaris, i was also confused about things that have been asked. hmm how did iceman get iced in the first place X.x?
Bleh i need to think of some questions XD
offtopic
hey Zaris where can i find pics that are from your sig? i cant seem to find them ^^ if its possible could u pm me or something =)
ok new Questions
-Why does Oboro get to keep the fan that hakuoro left behind at the end and not erruru?
hmm the av kamus captured iceman and mikoto? i thought it were some humans in a space suit?
oh i remember seeing a pic of ice man being in ice somewhere, it is shown in the opening.
Nightfly
2006-12-16, 11:18
omg thanks so much for the info
it was missing information i didn't know before (most of it)
Whitemoon648
2006-12-20, 04:31
Holy Shakamoly!
Episode XXIV
- Genjimaru, the almighty honorable soldier of the Evinkuruga tribe, realizing he had committed many sins for assisting Kuuya in her bloody desire to unify the continent (so that her country would finally be at peace), left Kunnekamun to seek Hakuoro's aid. You know that Genjimaru had signed a contract with Dii - power for servitude. But servitude comes with a heavy price, and so Genjimaru was asking Dii to back down from the contract, while Dii was asking Genjimaru to maintain it. But since he broke the contract, you witnessed his punishment.
- Kuuya is part of the contract per sae. But when the contract was signed, it was during the reign of a previous ruler of Kunnekamun. This was part of Genjimaru's reasoning for going against Dii, that the contract was nullified a long time ago. Suffice to say, Kuuya was a pawn to Genjimaru and Dii. Dii used the Kuuya and her country to attain a higher glory through warfare (as is explained in the next episode); Genjimaru assisted in that attainment.
- Nobody was "saved" from Genjimaru's sacrifice as I recall. The price for breaking the contract was his life and the obliteration of Kunnekamun. But Genjimaru can live in the afterlife sin-free. I guess it depends on how you look at it.
- Mutsumi didn't take Kuuya's voice away. That was a result of a psychological breakdown on Kuuya's part after seeing her loyal guardian and her country in bloody ashes.
Episode XXV
- Why shouldn't they see each other before they go back to sleep? Because Dii's not finished attaining his high praise of his followers. His mission is not yet complete!
- Eruruu is worrysome for Hakuoro's sake. Although bound to the contract, the events of the series has caused her to fall in love with him. The fact that he has released her from the contract suggests that he is going to transform and fight Dii but he ain't not coming back. If you heard this, you'd be desperately worried too.
- You might say that. Dii obtained a more manevolent side of the half, Hakuoro retaining (or otherwise always retaining the benevolent side). It is far too general, however, to simply say "good" and "evil".
Episode XXVI
- Well I told you the timeline already, so it should be pretty obvious who Mutsumi is. She is regarded the Onkami's original ancestor and one of the first "new" humans to be born on planet Earth. Remember her designation No. 63? She knows who she comes from (in other words, who she shares DNA with) and as a result, has a strong attachment to Hakuoro/Iceman. However, in the past, Iceman rejected her for Mikoto. This thought presumably led her to follow Dii instead. But the wishes of her father is her wish as well, she believes. Call it an Electra Complex. As long as Hakuoro exists - evil or good - Mutsumi will be there to protect him no matter what happens. She is also very dangerous as you saw, with telekinetic powers and a link to a forgotten weapon-satellite in Earth's orbit.
- Nope! The scientist who let Hakuoro and Mikoto escape is never heard from again after he done his deed. He probably received swift punishment from his superiors as he predicted would happen.
- Urutorii had always known about Hakuoro. She's not as clueless as the rest. There are a number of hints that link Hakuoro to Witsarunemitea (the mask, for example). Urutorii probably just saw it faster than most.
- This is a complicated question. You might say Eruruu didn't know Hakuoro wasn't human as late as episode 22 in the anime. But in the game, you could (emphasis on could) regard Eruruu to have always known since the very beginning. Which one you want to take depends on you and how you saw the series.
- Eruruu is NOT Mikoto. Eruruu is presumed to be a decendant of Mikoto but there is no evidence to justify a blood tie. References of their link is based solely on how similar they look. The baby that Iceman and Mikoto had could have been disected or it may have been left behind in the care of others. Once again, there's no way to tell since we never see it again. (I go into this in great depth in my Overall Series Discussion thread)
- Dorii and Guraa serving their parents' wishes? That's the first I heard of that. There's no canon reference to their parents at all. Perhaps you misheard something. = |
- The Av Kamus are, in the game, the suits of armor used to recover Iceman and Mikoto. It's unfortunate that the anime didn't portray this important fact. Once man was extinct, Dii supposedly got hand of the Av Kamu units and gave them to the country of Kunnekamun to make the country powerful and to further his goals.
- Touka and Karura were running away after trading their own soldiers for sake (which made their soldiers hella mad).
Miscellaneous
- Mutsumi sealed him in rock (ever notice why Yuzuha said Hakuoro had that soil smell?). "Seal" could mean anything, though. Just use your imagination. The lab was located where Onkamiyamukai is, as they declared it their responsibility to preserve the ancient land where man was first created.
- It begins with Iceman. His DNA was sampled to create various human augments. When the lab was destroyed, surviving augments fled the lab and populated the entire continent. They're all in one way or another related to Iceman - fox, wings, cats, bunnies, you name it.
- Hakuoro IS Witsarunemitea. The other half that the country of Kunnekamun have faith in is manifested in Dii. Makes clear?
WOW, thanks alot again :). I tried to give more positive rep ( since it deserves it), but i have to give other people before i can give u again :heh: . They were really helpfull information.
About the twins, i read it in betweem 19:16 to 19:20 ( episode 26). i was suprised to when i read it too. Out of the blue Ouboro saying that when nothing has been said about it, through out the whole series. I thought mayby the game has an answer to it.
Some questions...
1. Hakuoro... back in the first half of the series, that guy form another kingdom said Hakuoro was his brother-in-law and he killed his sister? Was that true or was it just manipulation on Dii's and old dude's part? If not, whats the story on that?
2. Mutsumi, is it explained how she is the only one that got powers or how she even has enough power AND knowledge to seal up a god? Is the present Mutsumi the same as the one in the past or was Kamyu actually BORN and Mutsumi transferred her spirit into her?
3. What is Karura's relation with that metro emperor?
4. What is Touka's story in the game? How he ends up having sex with all of them too if possible.
5. Is it true that Yuzuha got pregnant in the game? If yes, did she die giving birth to the baby cause of her weak body or did she die before even giving birth? Did Oboro know that she was pregnant with Hakuoro's baby? Anyone find it stupid how he used his powers twice to save Aruru but he never used it once to cure Yuzuha even if he didn't know how to control his power and barely had time to use it?
6. Ok, so I don't think the black wings and the vampirism ever got explained. I know she's like related to this evil blood-thirsty god but I don't get why she needs to suck blood. And is there a reason why her wings are black?
7. Is it explained as to why these test tube lifeforms have animal characteristics besides making them look cute and cuddly?
8. Why wasn't the throne given to Benawi? It makes more sense, than Oboro. And where does he go to at the end?
Your Answers (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=777911&postcount=294)
7thFonon
2006-12-26, 23:47
Why when Hakouro was leaving in the last episode with Eruru, he said, "Mikoto, to think I would have realized at a time like this." What did he realize?
He realized that Mikoto and Eruruu looked just about the same. However, that is speaking on a very general and minimalistic term. How far Hakuoro realized (about himself, Eruruu, and/or Mikoto) is left to audience interpretation and opinion.
Some say he realized that he was in love with Eruruu just as he was with Mikoto. Some say he only recognized the physical similarities. Others say that Hakuoro realized that Mikoto was the only woman he ever loved (but I disprove that theory elsewhere).
Hello,
So, the topic can tell a lot. I would like to get English version from Utawarerumono game, but is that possible? I have heard there's no "translated" version of it.. But could there be some own made patch or something? Which would bring the text to english.
Or is there something other way?
Thank you for your answers. :)
http://www.soylations.com/site/
It's not done. Not by far.
Okay, thanks. :) I'll be following news from that.
I just started thinkin about the dvd specials. There are coming atleast 6 (?) dvd parts from Utawarerumono, so there has to be atleast 6 dvd specials too, right? :)
holyman282
2007-01-06, 02:10
And, btw, although, yeah, it'd make people curious about the game and go buy it, there's still adult material inside and several themes
like pity sex with barely pubescent girls or relative (to a certain degree, I can't reveal more unless you ask for it, since it's a major spoiler) incestthat makes it not suitable for all ages.
Renegade I will ask for it so plz reveal what you meant in that spoiler?
Well, I think he meant pity sex with Yuzuha before she died. She got pregnant too, dunno if the baby survived though.
And the incest, Hakuoro had sex with Mikoto like thousands of years ago and they had a baby. Well Mikoto died and the baby survived. Eruru is a descendant of the baby. But then again, over the course of a few thousand years, the blood has been diluted so much that I don't know if it's still considered incest.
For fans, dvd special 4 is out now (yes yes, have been since 8. of february. :P). :)
KurosakiIchigo15
2007-06-06, 02:35
OK are Dori and Gura boys or girls ive seen alot there boys but wouldnt that make Oboro gay? Ive only seen the 1st 3 episodes but ive seen this picture on websites for the show, and i dont have the patience to wait for the episode so can some1 tell me whats goin on.
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/evanmills/oboroxtwins.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
KurosakiIchigo15
2007-06-06, 02:36
well that picture tag didnt come through, maybe this one will
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/evanmills/oboroxtwins.jpg
Ice Climbers
2007-06-06, 02:46
Did we not already discuss this in the poll thread???
From what I heard, the twins are male in the game and female in the anime
roxybudgy
2007-06-06, 03:36
The twins are male in the game, and unspecified in the anime.
In other words, the game specificall says that they are male, whereas in the anime, things are implied, but no clear mention.
Sesshys Sazzy Angel
2007-06-26, 02:34
are they going to make a OVA??? coz i WANT Hakuoro to come BACK!!
holyman282
2007-06-26, 05:37
Unless they are going to make an anime original OVA i doubt they will... The fact is that the story in the game ended exactly where the anime ended so there really isn't any continuation story.. so no OVA..
Flipcamvballer
2007-07-11, 21:13
Does anyone have a picture of Eruruu stretching at the end of the anime intro? I would really like it for my wallpaper. THANKS!!
hi. I downloaded the game, but I'm having trouble opening the files with Undisker 1.5. Can someone recommend a program that works? Or maybe I just don't know how to use it.... well anyway, I'd appreciate your help. thanks
Hypertaost
2007-11-05, 20:39
If you had to choose between playing the game in chinese or waiting for the english patch, whichi would you choose?
If you had to choose between playing the pc ver without the voices, or playing on an emulator with the vioces, which would you choose?
...feeling sad because of my indecisiveness....
If you had to choose between playing the game in chinese or waiting for the english patch, whichi would you choose?
If you had to choose between playing the pc ver without the voices, or playing on an emulator with the vioces, which would you choose?
...feeling sad because of my indecisiveness....
English patch should be out some time soon.
http://www.soylations.com/site/index.php
http://www.soylations.com/site/viewtopic.php?t=468&start=15
(Err... Not sure if I'm allowed to link sites as they sometimes don't like it on other forums. Edit it if you must.)
Fighter747
2008-02-18, 23:25
I have a question regarding Hakuoro/Iceman.
When we were shown in the anime when he was a human (archaeologist), he got blasted by another scientist. Did that happen before the apocalyptic period (As in, before the people dug themselves below ground)?
The reason I am asking this is that the fossil had "possessed" the body of the dead scientist. When he awoke, the scientists that are asking him questions seem to believe he is a "human, yet not a human."
It happened before all the events involving "iceman". His blood splattered on the fossil demon which allowed the demon to merge with him by granting his wish (to sleep), thus becoming the person known as Iceman. Centuries later he was found by the scientists, at which point the earth was already uninhabitable by humans.
zero7090
2008-02-22, 10:25
does anyone know how to unlock 2 last CG in the "art appreciation" ?
i already finished the game but it still remain unlocked
Klashikari
2008-02-22, 10:35
One is given only when you finish the game in hard mode (any).
The second CG is awarded if you finish Hard Mode 3.
These are not part of the storyline (fortunately, else, it would be even worse).
Actually, that's a misconception that's been going around; the first CG is obtained when you acquire at least 1 title (accessible from the battle data option under Omake), which chances are you will have gotten just by beating Hard on any level (you'd have to avoid having anyone get even 20 kills to not get a title). The second CG requires you to acquire ALL titles (cumulative via multiple playthroughs). For purposes of unlocking the CG's there's really no need to play on any difficulty other than Hard 1.
http://forums.mirrormoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=1255&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
zero7090
2008-02-22, 22:24
sorry but how to use "battle data" ? i clicked into it then it show list of saved game but i cant load any one of them
you have to finish the game and choose to save data after the ending
I believe it's only allowed on Hard difficulties; at the least, titles can only be obtained on Hard difficulties.
Spectacular_Insanity
2008-05-12, 01:46
I've found the 4th DVD special. If you guys want the link, PM me and I'll send it to you ASAP.
OK are Dori and Gura boys or girls ive seen alot there boys but wouldnt that make Oboro gay? Ive only seen the 1st 3 episodes but ive seen this picture on websites for the show, and i dont have the patience to wait for the episode so can some1 tell me whats goin on.
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/evanmills/oboroxtwins.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
As someone said, they are male in the game, and then in the anime, it isn't told if they are male or female. However, on this forum, there is a thread for discussion on that. You can check it out if you like. Some think they are male, and some think they are female, and people have backed their opinions with reasons and debated about it. If you check out the thread, try reading some of the thread before posting. Some people have brought up points for debate that have been discussed already.
Playing the game, but since started playing wondered what is this Hard Mode. What is it?
Spectacular_Insanity
2008-05-19, 01:33
Playing the game, but since started playing wondered what is this Hard Mode. What is it?
Just as it infers. The story line, as far as I am aware, is the same, but the battles are harder. Much harder, if you play on Hard Mode 2 or above.
Hey, I finally got hold of the first 5 DVD volumes of Utawarerumono. But only the first 3 include the booklets with the voice actor Q&A's and stuff like that. Are volume 4 and 5 suppost to have them booklets aswell? Because I don't want to be missing out.
retardsrox
2008-06-01, 09:32
It was stated somewhere ( i can't remember) that they were male in the game but were definietly female in the anime
Potatochobit
2008-06-24, 23:07
I may be a little late, but I just saw that utawarerumono was released on blu-ray in japan?
is this an upscale or was it remastered in HD?
this also has been encoded with english dub and english subtitles?
relentlessflame
2008-06-24, 23:43
I may be a little late, but I just saw that utawarerumono was released on blu-ray in japan?
is this an upscale or was it remastered in HD?
this also has been encoded with english dub and english subtitles?According to the press releases, it was an original HD master, but I haven't seen it myself to confirm. And yes, the English dub and sub are available on the release, and we are in the same region for Blu-Ray. If it weren't for the fact that I already own all the R2 DVDs (and so the steep price of double-dipping), I would certainly have picked it up. Seems like a good set.
Feitolicious
2008-06-29, 14:21
I have a question. How exactly do you pronounce Utawarerumono?
miroku2192
2008-07-02, 16:36
utawarerumono = the "u" (u sound from "wu"), "ta" (sounds like the "ta" from talk), "wa" ("wa" from walk), "re" (sounds like ray), "ru" (like "roo" from root), "mo" (the mo sound in mobile), and finally "no" (the no sounds like know)
so put it together u-ta-wa-re-ru-mo-no and you should pronounce it correctly...hope that helps:heh:
Japanese is actually pretty easy to pronounce syllable by syllable (syllables are always said the same way). It is just that some of the syllable combinations are tricky for english speakers to spew out quickly. Also.. depending on the particular japanese accent, some syllables get slurred a bit (like sukiyaki coming out s'kiyaki for example).
Utawarerumono (oo-tah-wah-ree-rue-moe-noe) requires some practice to say smoothly :) (its actually a bit of a compound word to express a more complex concept).
In the end..is he back? Sorry guys a lot of people say up to your interpretation but I just feel T_T. So Just answer yes :(
holyman282
2008-07-16, 02:27
In the end..is he back? Sorry guys a lot of people say up to your interpretation but I just feel T_T. So Just answer yes :(
No one knows that's why everyone says it's up to your interpretation. Honestly we would give you an answer if we could but we're all in the dark about the ending's interpretation.
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