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Catgirls

2006-04-30, 11:29

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hi no ken Jebus

2006-04-30, 15:25

Hmm this one was ok. I actually enjoyed the story at the end with shuuji and tennouji's sister than most of the episode. Everything was pretty rushed and a lot of the humor was kind of lost. Anyway next time is the play which I hope goes well.

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WraithC

2006-05-01, 02:52

For Karin fans
Tennouji's little sister is voiced by the same VA who does Karin's voice.

I admit they're packing a lot in these eps
But I'm a bit biased, since I already pretty much know what's going to happen... I guess you could say I'm just happy to see everything animated + with good voice acting. So it gets a thumbs up from me. High points for me would be the Yakumo + Harima scene and the Harima's little bro + Tennouji's little sister.

Aidan

2006-05-01, 05:56

I have to say that my ignorance is such bliss, this episode was so hilarious I'd give it a 11.

All the cafes, all the cakes, Tenma, T_T I cried from all the laugher, I'm so happy it hurts. The omaka was kinda cute too.
I do wish they'd remove Karasuma form the show, he's so dull.

Onizuka-GTO

2006-05-02, 09:27

More Harima x Yakumo scenes.

I just get the feeling Yakumo does have some sort of "warm" feeling towards Harima. Even though she keeps denying it. :)

Decagon

2006-05-02, 12:56

They only really shortened the tea club scenes a bit, right? The pacing felt better than some of the other eps, IMO. If they just wrap up the festival then the next ep shouldn't be too rushed, yea?

For Karin fans
Tennouji's little sister is voiced by the same VA who does Karin's voice.

Yeah! I noticed that too. She can play really cute kids' voices, huh? :eyespin:

Onizuka-GTO

2006-05-02, 15:32

They only really shortened the tea club scenes a bit, right?

not only that, they also cut out the fact that Harima was the second victim to head to the Tea Club, but was greet with the nurse, whom instantly dragged inside, and he couldn't get away! :D

shame really :p

Besides that everything on track the next episode is looking promising :D

ordnance11

2006-05-04, 19:16

evil-samurai

2006-05-04, 21:50

We hear Hanai screaming names again, and this time its Yakumo!!!!! :heh: I love his Voice actor.

It was a bit more serouis this time (well with Tenma), and the whole cafe thing wasn't really interesting to me but it had its funny moments. Hanai was the best part of the episode, like when Hanai said he is going out and because Yakumo is there he will not come back alive"and everyone yelled " then why are you even going?" :heh:

I'm really looking forward to next week, its looks like its going to be interesting with Eri and Yakumo facing off agaisn't each other in some play.

SonicMonkey

2006-05-05, 12:47

Hmmm..it's hard to get a bead on Yakumo's feelings for Harima....she says she's not in love with anyone in this episode...but in OVA2....when she picked up Harima's thoughs of Tenma, does that mean she does have a warm feeling for him...not quite love, but affection?

Why do I see a looming confrontation between Yakumo and Eri in the near future?

Yakumo isn't in love with Harima, but the thing about her is she isn't not in love with him either. If you read the manga it should come across to you that she is mostly naive because her ability to read minds has kept her away from boys. I think she feels close to Harima because for starters, she can't read his mind, secondly they share a hobby (drawing manga) and she also admires Harima's ability to get along with animals (Yakumo can't read animal minds, even though she really wants to know what they are thinking ^_^ )

I think given enough time she would probably fall for him in a more serious way, but it would require her comming out of her shell a bit more. Frankly I'm amazed that a pretty young girl like her who can read mens minds isn't so traumatized by now that she's a lesbian ^_^ lol

All the girls who are on the Harima love angle have similar problems, thats what is supposed to keep things interesting. For instance Tenma has Kurasima she is always looking at and her own stupidity as obstacles between her and Harima (as well as Harima's own stupidity, these two are the baka dream team of the century) and Eri, while it definately seems she does like Harima, has to overcome not only Harima's own thoughtlessness (If he was actually interested in Eri he probably would have had her by now) but also her own massive princess complex.

Personally I find Eri the most interesting because the main stumbling block between her and Harima is her own personality. The thing that attracts her to Harima is that she can show her real face to him, but the thing that keeps her from being with him (asides from his own fixation on Tenma) is her desire to still hold onto her ice princess facade at all costs. It makes for amusing manga/anime to watch her struggle against both her feelings and her pride :P

arias

2006-05-05, 18:32

Yakumo isn't in love with Harima, but the thing about her is she isn't not in love with him either. If you read the manga it should come across to you that she is mostly naive because her ability to read minds has kept her away from boys. I think she feels close to Harima because for starters, she can't read his mind, secondly they share a hobby (drawing manga) and she also admires Harima's ability to get along with animals (Yakumo can't read animal minds, even though she really wants to know what they are thinking ^_^ )

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Personally I find Eri the most interesting because the main stumbling block between her and Harima is her own personality. The thing that attracts her to Harima is that she can show her real face to him, but the thing that keeps her from being with him (asides from his own fixation on Tenma) is her desire to still hold onto her ice princess facade at all costs. It makes for amusing manga/anime to watch her struggle against both her feelings and her pride :P

!! WARNING: SPOILER FILLED

Actually, the main stumbling between Harima/Eri is HARIMA.. definitely. His tunnel vision is what's preventing any sort of romance between him and any other female. From the chinese translations, he is actually pretty crude and cruel to Eri sometimes, although she doesn't seem too terribly affected by his lines (perhaps only on the surface?), he still remains pretty "bad" to her at times.

Judging by the chinese scanlations up to the recent chapter, 175, things have developed to such an extent that it becomes rather obvious to the reader that she likes Harima. Mikoto and Akira constantly tease her about "that person" and whether she's confessed to him. Eri is constantly embarassed and makes NO real denial about it, only saying that nothing happened etc etc. Of course, in the more recent chapters she brought herself to buy magazines for their love astrology readings, and wanted to give Harima V-day chocolates but... as always. Stuff happens. There's also a rather ominous sign when in 175, the guy who defeats Harima tells her; "Do you really think your feelings will ever be returned?" (Because he knows that Harima <3 Tenma, since he holds their wish-pairing-papers)

Yakumo on the other hand, I think, is more of a special case. Unlike Eri, who easily handles guys on the fly and such, she is much more reserved and, like Eri, Harima is perhaps the only "pure" person that has gotten "through" to her. As a result, her feelings for Harima are sort of in a limbo.. wavering between a real romantic interest and a concern for him because he's really the only guy she pays attention to. When Sarah tells her to send telepathic messages to "that person" (who Sara thought of as Hanai), Yakumo instead thought of Harima. Whether he is a real romantic interest does not displace the fact that he is a special person to her.

Either way, I'll be happy if either of them ended up with Harima. Tenma should go with Karasuma (and there are subtle signs that there is some positivity between them). What I felt was one of the sadder cases was the girl wearing the large spectacles who had the crush on Hanai.. in the latest b chapter, she seems to have given up. It was put across really nicely. Of course, the Madoka/guy relationship is also funny, because she didn't spend her V-day with him (having a date/appointment with others) and in her bag, she had bigger chocolates for other people ; )

I also don't think School Rumble is in a sort of limbo like so many complaints here. Sure, it would be nice to see things go definitively in one direction or another, but the constant buildup of tension is quite beautiful. Just don't carry so much expectations. Let's just hope that Kobayashi settles it with integrity.

Swampstorm

2006-05-05, 19:55

You know, it's so much better if you just use spoiler tags.

Also, since this is an anime thread, you really shouldn't be discussing the manga in this thread, even in spoilers. Come to the raw manga thread, though, and post your ideas again over there. I'll gladly dissect them for you in detail over there.

Actually, the main stumbling between Harima/Eri is HARIMA... definitely. His tunnel vision is what's preventing any sort of romance between him and any other female. From the chinese translations, he is actually pretty crude and cruel to Eri sometimes, although she doesn't seem too terribly affected by his lines (perhaps only on the surface?), he still remains pretty "bad" to her at times.

There's problems on both sides, actually.
1) Harima's inability to understand or be considerate of Tenma's feelings for Karasuma.
2) Misunderstandings and miscommunications on both sides.
3) Eri's pride and her fear of rejection.
Every story arc so far works on one of these angles with regards to Harima x Eri. What's more, while they are both rude to each other most of the time, they both occasionally do genuinely nice things for each other on impulse. That impulse is a major redeeming quality in their relationship. On the odd occasion where they're honest and open with each other, good things happen. Guaranteed! ;)

Yakumo on the other hand, I think, is more of a special case. Unlike Eri, who easily handles guys on the fly and such, she is much more reserved and, like Eri, Harima is perhaps the only "pure" person that has gotten "through" to her. As a result, her feelings for Harima are sort of in a limbo.. wavering between a real romantic interest and a concern for him because he's really the only guy she pays attention to. Whether he is a real romantic interest does not displace the fact that he is a special person to her.

Before we start discussing Riceball as a viable possibility, let's see at least one of the two parties involved express an actual romantic interest in the other. I can think of at least one other case in the series where people mistake a "best friends" relationship for a "destined couple" relationship. You're making the exact same mistake.

You're also forgetting the fact that there is an air of formality that hovers between the two. Harima has granted Yakumo his secret for the time being out of lack of a confidant (in Ep.20 S1, his choice is rather random, when you look at it), but he still becomes quiet and aloof in her presence. When we see Harima in class, he is quiet, calm, and under control - exactly as he behaves in his interactions with Yakumo. Now, compare that to the range of emotions that he displays when he is around Tenma or Eri - the reserve is gone, and he is a tumult of expressed emotions. That reserve on Harima's part is a critical problem that Riceball faces.

In actuality, Eri knows absolutely nothing about having relationships with guys. It's all an act. The interesting thing about Eri, however, is that she's the only girl other than Tenma who has actually gotten through to him. Sagano and Yuuki's comments in Ep. 4 S2 actually apply both ways - despite all the misunderstandings, Harima and Eri both act naturally around each other. Again, I'm very much constrained by the nature of this thread in terms of providing proof, so this really should be discussed in more detail in the manga thread.

I also don't think School Rumble is in a sort of limbo like so many complaints here. Sure, it would be nice to see things go definitively in one direction or another, but the constant buildup of tension is quite beautiful.
There's really only one character in the series around whom dramatic tension is built up around. From that standpoint, there is a strong sense of direction in the story.

arias

2006-05-05, 20:13

mr.muffin

2006-05-06, 04:06

Great ep overall, but I felt it was not as funny as the previous one. Was glad to see that moment between Tenma and Karasuma at the end. Kinda sympathised with Tenma this ep cos first nobody wanted to call for her in the cafe except for kiddies... and then her cake for Karasuma got ruined.

I'm hoping that Karasuma stops liking curry so much... so that Karasuma and Tenma end up together. Karasuma's a bit of a blockhead tho to not pick up on the hints Tenma has been dropping. Maybe he's been blinded by his love for curry. :heh:

Wandering_Youth

2006-05-06, 08:23

Ha, this episode was mostly fanservice! It wasn't really a great episode because I think they're saving the good stuff for the one where the play happens.
I feel sorry for the guys in the end when they tried to attract back some female customers with their pimping. They couldn't even get back one gal in the end, how sad. :heh: I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Akira is eviilllll!

shikamarufoo

2006-05-06, 14:26

That was the best lol...
I liked it when they could cosplay situations, I wish there was something like that in real life or at least in the US...Great to see Yakumo and Harima together and it gets way mroe confusing as who he's going to end up with. Also the cake switch was pretty funny as well
Overall 10/10 IMO~

Sorrow-K

2006-05-06, 19:24

This was a fairly stock standard SR episode in that nothing really happened in the plot. There were a few "lol" moments, but not much really inspired comedy and certainly not comedy on the same level as the first episode in this series or some of the best episodes from the last. I'd say overall it's pretty much a "go-through-the-motions" episode.

I think if there's one good thing that happened in this episode, it's made the HarimaxYakumo relationship slightly more tenable in my eyes. I've always liked Yakumo more than Eri as a character, but I've always been more of a fan of the HarimaxEri relationship, because I think she probably needs him more than Yakumo does. Although this episode has probably emphasised (again) that Yakumo has her own set of issues that, (who knows) may or may not be resolved by her spending more time with Harima. And, on a slightly related note, her wearing Hanai's glasses was just so ridiculously cute.

Rich

2006-05-06, 20:59

i wonder what would i be like if Harima and Yakumo were to be together. Harima and Eri, they would be critisizing each other all day =P. Tenma and Harima would be -_____________-||| omg... like duck talking to a chicken, that's the best comparison i can make =P

Thyrz

2006-05-06, 22:13

Yep mostly fanservice so I didn't really enjoy it as much as the previous S2 episodes. Still very enjoyable. :D

The next episode however looks very very good watching the preview.

Kezane

2006-05-07, 02:32

Wasn't karasuma's birthday just a while ago?

mr.muffin

2006-05-07, 04:22

... And, on a slightly related note, her wearing Hanai's glasses was just so ridiculously cute.
Yeah... Yakumo's always cute, no matter what she wears. :)

El_Capitano

2006-05-07, 08:07

Yeah... Yakumo's always cute, no matter what she wears. :)

And what if she'd be wearing nothing? ;)

Wandering_Youth

2006-05-07, 17:17

Hmm, I just finished rewatch episode 5 and I noticed some odd things. How come Harima is wearing red socks in the scene where she is bowing down to Yakumo? Why was Hanai calling Yakumo, Yakumon when she took his glasses?

Sorrow-K

2006-05-07, 18:28

Why was Hanai calling Yakumo, Yakumon when she took his glasses?That's what he always calls her. That and Yakumo-kun. As for the socks... who knows? Animators with weird fashion taste, possibly.

Muir Woods

2006-05-07, 19:30

Another earnest scene between Tenma and Karasuma at the end, on top of other similar parts of amicable communication between them from previous episodes. It certainly gives the impression that there's a mold building between the relationship of Tenma and Karasuma. From these scenes, they look sweet together, giving me reason to support this True Oudou scenario, but of course it's far from concrete. Karasuma is just being himself, a soft spoken nice guy, and he does not recognize Tenma romantically, and Tenma, unable to express her feelings to him. *Sigh* obstacles. As for Harima, I just think he needs to rid himself of his fixation on Tenma before any romantic relationship with another female is possible. Anyways, this episode was worth a few chuckles. "Harima-kun, you're always jumping the gun." So very true, and this does not apply just to Harima as well...

KaneDragon

2006-05-08, 09:07

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I weep. ;_; :(

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I back away slowly... :twitch: :uhoh: :heh:

Hayamaneko

2006-05-08, 13:01

Itoko in a miedo outfit = :D :D

aliensporebomb

2006-05-08, 14:20

Another great episode.

The Cake Conundrum was predictably hysterical.

The ending with what I'll call "SR: The Next Generation" was kind of cute.

Now we wait for EP6.

mtarzaim

2006-05-09, 05:13

Harima Rulez !
Hanai Rockz !

SR forever !

Not as good as ep 4, not enough Flag to fit my tastes (but we can't have too many without decreasing their emotional impact :p ), but still good.
And at last, a "fight" between the proud princess and the silent esper is approching ... ;)

About Yakumo, she's also able to read girl's though (like Tenma's ). They just need to be directed to her. And it seems she has got that power recently (as the narrator implied it in her first episode).

About Hanai, I have re-watched his first meeting with Yakumo, and the way he says exactly what he's thinking just remind me of ... Kitamura sensei from Azumanga Daioh ! :D
Well, without the lolicon obsession ... until now ? (cf Kanedragon's snapshot) :p

It's also amazing how each character of the serie is already present in those early episode (the swimming pool fight introduces every major/minor characters), even a little second.