The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll [2006 TV ep. 8]

[Catgirls]

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[Catgirls]

Thought I'd move this post over. :heh: Probably related to Ep. #8. :heh: Oh noes!!! The website got haxxors!!!

http://www.haruhi.tv/

:heh:

[PhantomX]

I think that website change is related to the one we just finished watching.

Don't stare at it too long or you'll turn into a cave cricket!

[C.A.]

I think that website change is related to the one we just finished watching.

Don't stare at it too long or you'll turn into a cave cricket!

Not always a cave cricket, since its an object of our fears. And also since the data lifeform has already been destroyed, we would probably just experience the closed space itself. We should stare at it more and later we can have a party there. Remember to bring your food for potluck! Some games, handheld consoles/notebooks would be good.

Anyway, what time is episode 8 airing today? Someone on another forum said 5pm japanese time, but I don't think so. How many times have the episode airing times changed? Haruhi is really affecting the producers alot.

[Village Idiot]

Screenies:

http://dat.2chan.net/18/res/2893961.htm

Now I'm off to sleep, day pill medication my arse.

[evil-samurai]

Could Kyon be the one behind it all?

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8458/31lp.jpg

Kyon is looking quite impressive in that shirt (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyof114822491199709af9ec.jpg)and also quite evil in that one shot :uhoh: Well its looks like its going to interesting! this week.. oh! and Kyon's sister sure does look like someone with her hair (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16ro.jpg) like that :heh: Alot of Haruhi this time around, seems like they just kept on giving shots of Haruhi at interesting angels O.o;; Yuki (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyof115242jpg1gr.jpg) looked a little annoyed at something or someone? but its most likey doesn't meant much, looking forward to watching! it. Hardly saw much of Mikuru.. wonder where she was...

[PhantomX]

From one of the screenshots it looks like Mikuru passed out ... that certainly seems like the reaction she would have :\

[melange]

Thought I'd move this post over. :heh: Probably related to Ep. #8. :heh:If its the website getting hacked then no... its related to Ep 7. :heh:

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Next week is...

Episode14?!!!!

Novel translators, please; what chapter is that suppose to be? Can you please look it up?

Perhaps it's the "Making of Episode 00"?

[Catgirls]

If its the website getting hacked then no... its related to Ep 7. :heh:Exactly. :heh:

[PhantomX]

Next week is...

Episode14?!!!!

Novel translators, please; what chapter is that suppose to be? Can you please look it up?

Perhaps it's the "Making of Episode 00"?

Lol, are you serious XD?!

That's the largest jump yet XDDD

[tritoch]

Ahahahaha! Well Haruhism isn't gonna end in 12 episodes then.

[Alu]

Are you sure Haruhi announced it as "14" ? because.., well.. I guess we all thought that with the 00 there would only be 13 episodes.
Making it 00 (1)+13 = 14 (entire series)

By the looks of it there will be a ghost number somewhere in the count.., number this that will probably be when the 00 was made ^^
Or so I at the moment think.., its Haruhi.. anything can happen :heh:

[Plant42]

Next week is...

Episode14?!!!!

Novel translators, please; what chapter is that suppose to be? Can you please look it up?

Perhaps it's the "Making of Episode 00"?

It's seem that Episode14 will be Original Episode.

[Darth Atma]

It's seem that Episode14 will be Original Episode.
Original Ep.???

Is it the one that its storylines exist only in Animation, not in the Novel?

[Prodigious]

OMG they're holding hands. HOLDING HANDS! *does a Mikuru faint* Oh and clearly my theory about Kyon's sister and Mikuru was correct.

[MrProphet]

OBJECTION! 8)

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/6716/87rv.th.jpg (http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=87rv.jpg)

Great Spoof. 8)

[Kaoru Chujo]

The way Mikuru slumped to the floor was godly animation. And the gods at KyoAni knew they nailed the rain reflected on the wall, so they gave us two or three versions of it.

The scene in the cave. Great angles, great thoughts. Haruhi almost...but she thought better of it. I guess Kyon is definitely not a potato now. Holding hands was beautiful. And Hirano Aya is a demigoddess.

Another 9.

[Mentar]

Yeah, the hesitation to unhook her bra was quite telling ;)

The main deviation from the novels was that they're definitely inserting not just some Haruhi service, but also some traces of romance. The holding hands. Her panicked reaction seeing Kyon lying there after their fall. The rest of the cave scene. The execution of the "slice him up" ploy.

Nope, definitely no potato anymore, Kyon-kun!

*looking forward to the last episode, which will certainly be chapter 7 from vol1*

[panzerfan]

Haruhi is quite calm in her immediate and subsequent actions. It's rather interesting how Haruhi drags Kyon along when Koizumi's got more background info on the ppl involved (although the reason is on the obvious side).

The cinematic used for the murder discussion is a nice throwback to the detective films. As for Kyon's mental image... that was really funny. At any rate, we are heavily influenced by Kyon's outlook on the whole scenario though.

The person in black scene was hilerious to behold though. It feels anticlimatic of course but it's great nonetheless. The 'OBJECTION' was just great. Taken with 4 angular shots and 1 close-up.

The final perspective shot of 'Kyon's neck' Koizumi's POV was wickedly done. I really love KyoAni's cinematography!

(and I can't wait for the next ep now..)

[SlugZilla]

Original Ep.???

Is it the one that its storylines exist only in Animation, not in the Novel?
Kyon is holding a electric stove and wearing a jacket so it must be volume 4 when it takes place near the Christmas party(it's in the ED).

[iamandragon]

Go to this page:
http://www.haruhi.tv/activitylog.html

Hit Ctrl+A and you'll find extra contents...
So there're 15490 more episodes to go before Suzumiya ends...
And there're supposed to be 8 pictures at the bottom...though they never load up...wonder what they are?

[Omniscient]

Episode 08 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/05/21/suzumiya-haruhi-no-yuuutsu-08/)

This played out rather like a mystery plot, though it doesn't surprise me that Itsuki was at the bottom of it all. I really liked how they did those fuzzy live-action reactments. And aside from Haruhi being really concerned about Kyon when he fell, it was also notable that she stopped her explanation when she got to the part where she thought that Kyon and the other guys had killed Keiichi with the door.

OBJECTION! 8)

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/6716/87rv.th.jpg (http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=87rv.jpg)

Great Spoof. 8)
lol, I knew that pose looked familiar

[dxgarten]

Episode 08 screencaps and summary (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/suzumiya_haruhi_no_yuuutsu_ep8.html)

I supposed it's a fun episode but I can't help but thinking that it would have been nice if it was a real murder mystery instead of a fake one. I guess I've been watching too many Higurashi no Naku Koro ni :P

[IchiKyo]

Great Episode! Looks Like A great Reference for Gyakuten Saiben From Capcom
The Crime, The Objection, The Clue... Everything... Difficult to ask for a translation of all

I can't wait for Tuesday

[kari-no-sugata]

I just finished reading the novel translation. Hmm, the anime version was better in a number of ways (normally they're about even).

[Vexx]

So now Kyon can buy Suzumiya the entire Nancy Drew mystery series for her christmas present....

[iamandragon]

I just finished reading the novel translation. Hmm, the anime version was better in a number of ways (normally they're about even).

That's 'cause you havn't been reading novel in details...
As you read more and more of the novels you'll be reverting back to the older volumes. When I was reading vol. 6 I had all 5 vol. open in front of me and a white board behind so I can cross reference and analyze the situation...There're clues here and there and it's really fun to join the clues together...Suzumiya Haruhi is not only a SF, it's also a Detective Story!

[tritoch]

Loved the cave scene. Haruhi x Kyon is just about right. Kyon forget Mikuru ^__^

[Keitarou]

Hmm, yeah, a good episode. Some screens (http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4714/suzumiyaharuhinoyuuutsuepisode.jpg)

Favourite moment in this episode, without a doubt:

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1159/holdinghands3mm.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holdinghands3mm.jpg)

and everything after that. Kyon trying to shield Haruhi when they fell off the cliff was a nice scene.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3851/fallenoff9hv.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fallenoff9hv.jpg)

And most important. Haruhi's expression of the day:

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6527/haruhireliefed9of.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haruhireliefed9of.jpg)

The bra shot was priceless as well. ;)

Next episode...14, Someday in the Rain, quite a jump, does that mean that 00 is set somewhere inbetween or will we see a skip somewhere in the timeline, perhaps no episode 13(?). That's something I would actually expect from KyoAni after everything so far. ;)

[Takisho]

Another great episode.

Something that caught my eye was that Kyon's imagination of the murder (e.g. when Kyon and Hauhi were inside the cave) seem to be enacted by actual people instead of, well, anime people. Just wondering if I'm right.

[Pakxenon]

The reenactments were killer! Great stuff from KyoAni.

Yeah, Asahina Mikuru no Bouken is probably episode 13 from the looks of it, with two episodes for the making of the movie.

I'm guessing they're going to end the series with a series of the remaining three Melancholy episodes. -____- Should be a blast!

[Onizuka-GTO]

Something that caught my eye was that Kyon's imagination of the murder (e.g. when Kyon and Hauhi were inside the cave) seem to be enacted by actual people instead of, well, anime people. Just wondering if I'm right.


You are correct it was done by actors, I was also impressed by that, it really added another dimension to it. bravo KyoAni. :D

That's 'cause you havn't been reading novel in details...
As you read more and more of the novels you'll be reverting back to the older volumes. When I was reading vol. 6 I had all 5 vol. open in front of me and a white board behind so I can cross reference and analyze the situation...

That reminds me, when are you going to come on over and give us a hand? If you got the time to read vol.6 please give a sympathetic thought for us non-lingo readers....

*scrawls "Baka-Tsuki" in the sand as he sulks*

:upset:

[Sushi-Y]

A great episode. The mystery itself isn't much to look at (especially if you already know everything like I do), but Haruhi's dere dere side was great here. The conversations within the episode aren't new, but Kyoani made the right choice by having the dialogues divided up and carried out through different interesting situations (for example, Kyon and Haruhi's conversation in the cave), rather than have everything explained in just words (which is what the novel pretty much did).

The Gyakuten Saiban parody ("Objection!") was a laugh, there were various other references to other series as well (Kyon's "the eye" + "creaky" music reminded me of Higurashi right away :heh: ).

Also, the "debriefing" was also nice. There wasn't a debriefing session at all in the novel (the story ended when Kyon discovered the truth + 1 page of "epilogue-like" conclusion), so it's good to see that Kyoani managed to tie up the story quite nicely.

Then again, "Lone Island Syndrome" wasn't that good of a story to begin with. "Snow Mountain Syndrome" was much better, but I guess that's impossible to do without having "Lone Island" and "Shoushitsu" done first...

=================================

Well then, it looks like the next episode is going to be the original episode mentioned in The Sneaker.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9062/280922347012495125231249812398.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=280922347012495125231249812398.jpg)
"Someday in the Rain"
The first thing I noticed is the fact that Kyon's wearing winter clothings. A pretty big time jump again (from Lone Island's July), but makes sense seeing as how this will be the final episode (14). The market street might remind some people of Tameiki (volume 2, the filming of Episode 00), which, time-line wise (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=541848&postcount=80), fits the fall/winter theme. But if it's an original episode, then it's obviously not going to be about Tameiki.
Notice the item that Kyon picked up is an "electric stove" (portable heater). From Kyon's reaction, looks like it's another errand for Haruhi.

Haruhi's "otsukaresama♥ Kyon" in the end was dangerously dere though. :heh: Well, it's the final episode (time-line wise) after all, I'm looking forward to seeing how Kyoani will "tie things up".

[arias]

Haruhi's "otsukaresama♥ Kyon" in the end was dangerously dere though. :heh: Well, it's the final episode (time-line wise) after all, I'm looking forward to seeing how Kyoani will "tie things up".

What does that mean? I'm quite blur as to the arrangement of the anime and how it'll play out.

[Onizuka-GTO]

What does that mean? I'm quite blur as to the arrangement of the anime and how it'll play out.

don't ask me, im just as confused as you are. :D

Why am i smiling about this, i have no idea. i guess i'm just happily confused, if that's not confusing enough for you.

:rolleyes:

[angel_wing0]

What does that mean? I'm quite blur as to the arrangement of the anime and how it'll play out.

haurhi is asking if "kyon-sama" is tired :D

it's hard to imagine haruhi using honorific japanese to kyon thou~

[Vexx]

Okay... I'm going to be absolutely stunned if they don't get a green light for 14 more episodes. I could visualize a crowd of desperate otaku actually eating the studio board by board when they realize its over.

[angel_wing0]

Okay... I'm going to be absolutely stunned if they don't get a green light for 14 more episodes. I could visualize a crowd of desperate otaku actually eating the studio board by board when they realize its over.
i think we should go destroy kyoto ani...err i mean protest :heh:

50 more min till raw is done :p

[Incoan]

Woah , great episode.
I think it was the first time we saw Haruhi showing her caring side as well as proving that she DOES have common sense (I feared she would get excited about this incident...puh). She is not just a UFO\espers\whatever-obsessed weirdo after all... That's good.
And "otskaresama~ , Kyon" at the end was really unexpected and ... cute :)

And what was with Itsuki staring at Kyon's birthmark? :heh:

[Omniscient]

What does that mean? I'm quite blur as to the arrangement of the anime and how it'll play out.
Some sources (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%97%C1%8B%7B%83n%83%8B%83q%82%CC%97J%9FT) have listed that this is a 14 episode series. Maybe it means that if next week is the fourteenth story, it'll be the last one sequentially.

In a bit of irony (since this is all about great detectives and mysteries), today - May 22nd - is Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's birthday.

[C.A.]

But episode 1 is episode 0.

By logical conclusion:

If episode 1 is 0, the last episode will be 13.

I don't know, but this really hints to me that there will be a 2nd season. I'll go into depression if there isn't lol

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

But episode 1 is episode 0.

By logical conclusion:

If episode 1 is 0, the last episode will be 13.

I don't know, but this really hints to me that there will be a 2nd season. I'll go into depression if there isn't lol
Episode Zero is going to be sold separately from the rest of the TV series as a DVD, so it is entirely possible for the "series" itself to be 14 episodes with an extra added as episode00.

[C.A.]

Hmmm I'm not sure, but I think Kyon's words is almost as heavy as Haruhi's. We should believe that episode 0 is episode 1 according to him lol.

So far AniDB is the only site with more details about the number of episodes:

http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3651

But they aren't completely sure themselves, like all other anime websites. In the 1st 3 weeks, anime websites have been saying that Haruhi will have 13/14 episodes, but now every one of them has removed that and in place we have 'N/A', '0' or '-'.

[Onizuka-GTO]

LOLOL :bow: Haruhi threw everyone off. :p i bet she's been reading all the predictions and changed it at the last moment just because. :D :D

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Hmmm I'm not sure, but I think Kyon's words is almost as heavy as Haruhi's. We should believe that episode 0 is episode 1 according to him lol.
That doesn't make sense. If we are following Kyon's words that episode 00 is Ep 1, then episode 14 should be episode 9.

The only way you can even have an episode 00, is if you take Haruhi's word as gospel.

[arias]

If the series is longer than 14 episodes.. I.. I... I...

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/littlemanheaven/cookie.jpg
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Now THAT is happily confused :D

[C.A.]

Yea of course Haruhi is correct, shes following the novels anyway, the DVDs are going to be released in her order.

But we can take Kyon's words for the number of episodes, though his order is jumbled up.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Don't get too happy yet.

It's not unknown for anime studios to skip an entire episode in broadcast, and only put it in the DVD release.

[IchiKyo]

Next week will be difficult

*want to see a Kyon Reindeer just like the Ending*

[Sushi-Y]

But episode 1 is episode 0.

By logical conclusion:

If episode 1 is 0, the last episode will be 13.
That doesn't make sense. If we are following Kyon's words that episode 00 is Ep 1, then episode 14 should be episode 9.

The only way you can even have an episode 00, is if you take Haruhi's word as gospel.
Nobody said Episode 00 (Kyon: Episode 1) couldn't be an episode 12 or 13 or something.

Here's my episode list from the prediction thread, updated to current episode:

Haruhi's Episode Count (by story timeline) / Title / Kyon's Episode Count (by airtime)
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Episode 1 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅰ - Episode 2
Episode 2 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅱ - Episode 3
Episode 3 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅲ - Episode 5
Episode 4 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅳ - ?
Episode 5 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅴ - ?
Episode 6 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅵ - ?
Episode 7 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Taikutsu - Episode 4
Episode 8 - Mysterious Sign - Episode 7
Episode 9 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1) - Episode 6
Episode 10 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 2) - Episode 8
Episode 11 - ? - ?
Episode 12 - ? - ?
Episode 13 - ? - ?
Episode 14 - Someday in the Rain - Episode 9

Episode ? - Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00 - Episode 1
-------------------------
Again, here's the novel timeline for reference (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=541848&postcount=80)
As you can see, there are only 3 "unknown" slots left now. One thing we know for sure is that those episodes will definitely take place (story timeline wise) after Lone Island (Episode 10, July) and before Someday in the Rain (Episode 14, Winter?). Episode 00 could easily fit into any of those 3 slots since it took place in November.

But the latest episode preview also revealed something important: unless they plan on going further than 14 episodes, "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" won't be animated. Even though it took place between Taikutsu (ep.7) and Mysterious Sign (ep.8), there was still a chance it could've been listed (Haruhi-wise) as an "Episode 0" (those who read the story will know what I mean). But if that was the case, then the total episode count would've been 0 ~ 13 for a total of 14 episodes. Someday in the Rain, however, was counted by Haruhi as episode 14, therefore leaving no room anywhere for Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody.

(Unless of course, they do it as a DVD-only episode or something)

But well, as important as that story is, I guess it's not significant if they're not going to do Shoushitsu anyway. It would explain why they've been picking short-stories with the least amount of foreshadowing to the "next-big-story" (Shoushitsu).

[MrProphet]

For those who didn't get the "OBJECTION!" joke, it's besically a spoof of "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney", a lawyer sim game for Nintendo.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2239/11482937847398nl.th.gif (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11482937847398nl.gif)

See this animation for comparison.

The pointing finger pose has become quite an enduring meme on its own. 8)

[angel_wing0]

^ nice :D

but btw, there will be more than 14 eps, i m pretty sure. BANK on it :D

[Kaoru Chujo]

AniDB (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3651) has it right: the episode numbers should follow the order in which they are broadcast. Period. Everything else is (1) Haruhian obfuscation, and (2) telling us which order events actually occurred in chronologically (which is not as important as the order KyoAni is using to tell us the story).

I'd be disappointed if KyoAni abandoned a great plan and issued the DVDs in chronological order. That would seem pretty lame to me, and would be the only lame thing about this anime so far.

A post on 2 channel suggests that the student video (episode 01/00) fits as the final episode chronologically, making a total of 15. Here's their list:
chronology　　broadcast
(Haruhi) 　　　(Kyon)
ep01 　　　　 ep02 　MelancholyⅠ
ep02 　　　　 ep03 　MelancholyⅡ
ep03 　　　　 ep05 　MelancholyⅢ
ep04 　　　　 ep** 　Melancholy Ⅳ
ep05 　　　　 ep** 　MelancholyⅤ
ep06 　　　　 ep** 　MelancholyⅥ
ep07 　　　　 ep04 　Boredom
ep08 　　　　 ep07 　Mysteric Sign
ep09 　　　　 ep06 　Lone Island 1
ep10 　　　　 ep08 　Lone Island 2
ep11 　　　　 ep** 　?
ep12 　　　　 ep** 　?
ep13 　　　　 ep** 　?
ep14 　　　　 ep09 　Sunday in the Rain

ep00 　　　　ep01 Mikuru's Adventure

[panzerfan]

Of course, if Haruhi winds up with one of those 1hr broadcast special, the formula will have to be revisited. Otherwise I agree with that's said.

[Sushi-Y]

A post on 2 channel suggests that the student video (episode 01/00) fits as the final episode chronologically, making a total of 15. Here's their list:
chronology　　broadcast
(Haruhi) 　　　(Kyon)
ep01 　　　　 ep02 　MelancholyⅠ
ep02 　　　　 ep03 　MelancholyⅡ
ep03 　　　　 ep05 　MelancholyⅢ
ep04 　　　　 ep** 　Melancholy Ⅳ
ep05 　　　　 ep** 　MelancholyⅤ
ep06 　　　　 ep** 　MelancholyⅥ
ep07 　　　　 ep04 　Boredom
ep08 　　　　 ep07 　Mysteric Sign
ep09 　　　　 ep06 　Lone Island 1
ep10 　　　　 ep08 　Lone Island 2
ep11 　　　　 ep** 　?
ep12 　　　　 ep** 　?
ep13 　　　　 ep** 　?
ep14 　　　　 ep09 　Sunday in the Rain

ep00 　　　　ep01 Mikuru's Adventure
You mean post #8 on the 226th thread? It's not 15, it's 14, with Episode 00 fitting somewhere inside 11 - 14 ("未定のどこかに入る、(もしくは15話以降)"). It's very unnatural to have 15 episodes, especially since all the episodes have already been aired so far, so we're not talking about DVD-only releases here. If they're going to have more than 14 episodes, then that'll most likely make Haruhi a 2-cours series (26 - 28 episodes) (hence "もしくは15話以降").

But if you take a look at the DVD-release list (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=529369&postcount=9), you'll realize that the pricing suggests a 14 episode series. (1+2+2+2+2+2+2+1)

[Kaoru Chujo]

You mean post #8 on the 226th thread? It's not 15, it's 14, with Episode 00 fitting somewhere inside 11 - 14 ("未定のどこかに入る、(もしくは15話以降)"). It's very unnatural to have 15 episodes, especially since all the episodes have already been aired so far, so we're not talking about DVD-only releases here. If they're going to have more than 14 episodes, then that'll most likely make Haruhi a 2-cours series (26 - 28 episodes) (hence "もしくは15話以降").But if you take a look at the DVD-release list (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=529369&postcount=9), you'll realize that the pricing suggests a 14 episode series. (1+2+2+2+2+2+2+1) I think the DVD list is the clincher for 14. So what the poster is saying is that episode 00 fits chronologically either between 11 and 14, or else could come after 14 if the show goes another season?

[Sushi-Y]

I think the DVD list is the clincher for 14. So what the poster is saying is that episode 00 fits chronologically either between 11 and 14, or else could come after 14 if the show goes another season?
That's right. But if we're taking Haruhi's word on the chronological ordering of the episodes, then it's unlikely that Episode 00 would take place after Someday in the Rain (14).

Why? Remember in the novel (during Shoushitsu I think), Kyon mentioned that the weather felt almost as if it went straight from Summer to Winter? It explains why Mikuru was able to run around in a miniskirt waitress costume in November. But once the story entered December (Shoushitsu), the weather "suddenly turned shitty cold" (← Kyon's words).

Therefore, seeing the heavy winter clothings that Kyon's wearing for the Someday in the Rain preview, I'm assuming it will be placed chronologically after the events of Episode 00, which means Episode 00 will have to be either episode 11, 12, or 13.

Then again, I could be wrong about Someday in the Rain, nobody knows what it's about, after all.

Another thing is the fact that Kanon is going to start in Fall, so unless everyone who works at Kyoani are superhumans, it would be reasonable to think that they'll finish up Haruhi by July (1-cours for 3 months), and give themselves a couple of months to prepare for their next project.

[iamandragon]

You are correct it was done by actors, I was also impressed by that, it really added another dimension to it. bravo KyoAni. :D



That reminds me, when are you going to come on over and give us a hand? If you got the time to read vol.6 please give a sympathetic thought for us non-lingo readers....

*scrawls "Baka-Tsuki" in the sand as he sulks*

:upset:

Will come after 31st of May, when my exams finish. You can basically leave the whole of volume 4 to me(translation is my profession~)

Anyways...Something I really want to point out.
Many says(and even point out) that there're 15 total episodes to the anime...actually there're 15498 episodes--that's from haruhi.tv.
Go to tihs page and press Ctrl+A and you'll reveal hidden episodes and notes written in the same text colour as the background.
http://www.haruhi.tv/activitylog.html
Keep your hopes high

Do you realize that Haruhi was about to take off her bra in the cave and then she hesitated and gave up? That was the best part of the anime--they expressed how Haruhi sees Kyon as 'different' perfectly.

[arias]

Do you realize that Haruhi was about to take off her bra in the cave and then she hesitated and gave up? That was the best part of the anime--they expressed how Haruhi sees Kyon as 'different' perfectly.

Does anyone know what she was saying during that scene? I mean, I would like to think of it that way as well.. but just seeing wondering if her dialogue supports this.

[eVaX]

Does anyone know what she was saying during that scene? I mean, I would like to think of it that way as well.. but just seeing wondering if her dialogue supports this.

My understanding of Japanese is about as good as a sack of potatoes but I think Kyon was doubting Haruhi seeing someone outside and she replied that she didn't think she made a mistake and then questioning if Yutaka really did kill K1.

I'm probably completely wrong though.

10/10 for Haruhi x Kyon time.

[Onizuka-GTO]

Will come after 31st of May, when my exams finish. You can basically leave the whole of volume 4 to me(translation is my profession~)



oh ok, no problem Harunak- er i meant dragon-chan.

:D

[arias]

31st of May is a long time from now :( I've been reloading both this board's page and the Baka-Tsuki project page multiple times an hour... :D

Oh well.. And thanks ahead of time, dragon : )

[Onizuka-GTO]

31st of May is a long time from now :( I've been reloading both this board's page and the Baka-Tsuki project page multiple times an hour... :D

Oh well.. And thanks ahead of time, dragon : )


I was wandering who was that anonymous user who kept hanging around the website.

Stop stalking Arias. :p

[IchiKyo]

For those who didn't get the "OBJECTION!" joke, it's besically a spoof of "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney", a lawyer sim game for Nintendo.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2239/11482937847398nl.th.gif (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11482937847398nl.gif)

See this animation for comparison.

The pointing finger pose has become quite an enduring meme on its own. 8)


It is not the only Pic
There a total of 9 references Of The Game ;)
also include when she show the finger to Cried
The Camera too is not a coincidence
When She thinks to. When we see everyone around the table
It's like the Tribunal Of Phoenix Wright

[iamandragon]

It is not the only Pic
There a total of 9 references Of The Game ;)
also include when she show the finger to Cried
The Camera too is not a coincidence
When She thinks to. When we see everyone around the table
It's like the Tribunal Of Phoenix Wright

Nine! Can you tell us all of them?(I am really interested in the game though I've never played it, so I can't tell...)

[IchiKyo]

Look at My Sign
I reference less of

[C.A.]

Look at My Sign
I reference less of

lol thanks, I saved your sig in my Haruhiism folder. All Haruhists should have such a folder on your desktop.

[IchiKyo]

If you want
I upload All reference Pics On Normal Size...

[iamandragon]

lol thanks, I saved your sig in my Haruhiism folder. All Haruhists should have such a folder on your desktop.

haha same here here.
I even back it up on megaupload.

[disorderman]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6862/cat0cc.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cat0cc.jpg)
I found that the logo and the counter sometimes become normal when you refresh the main page, and there is a cat moving from time to time...

the code in the main page
<!--
if( Math.random() < 0.2) {
document.write("029819");
sostitle.src = "img/zoz_title.gif";
soslogo.src = "img/zoz_logo.gif";
} else {
document.write("AIR HUH");
sostitle.src = "img/sos_title.gif";
soslogo.src = "img/sos_logo.gif";
}
the "normal" logo is the "ZOZ dan"

[tritoch]

ohh the sub is out! yippee.. i could only understand 1/3 of the raw..

[npal]

Downloading downloading.

*hopes for Mikuru goodies :D (although probably not, since the previous episode had some of the best Mikuru moments, but oh well...

[C.A.]

in another forum I told the people that I'm going to take a sleep first and wake up for the torrent.

Indeed I woke up when the torrent was up, I was woken by a nightmare and bad neck ache. If that's Haruhi-sama's way for waking me up, I have absolutely no problems lol

[Kaioshin Sama]

First episode where Haruhi shows anything resembling compassion and kindness to her "friends". Thank god too because I was starting to get tired of her character lacking any development. If its true the whole scene with Kyon protecting her was improvised by the series writers and was not in the novel, than this is a rare case of the animation outshining its source material. Hopefully Haruhi's character continues to become more sympathetic.

[Onizuka-GTO]

haha same here here.
I even back it up on megaupload.

good job you did, before the mods came by. :D

[Kamui4356]

Am I the only one who was unimpressed by this episode? As Sushi-Y mentioned, this wasn't the best story to begin with, which is probably why KyoAni decided to change it around so much, but for me those changes didn't really work. It was still enjoyable, but not nearly as much as the rest of the series has been. It got better as it went along, so I gave it a 6 in the end, but for a while I was seriously considering giving it a 4... In all, this was by far the weakest episode of the series... :(

[Vexx]

Actually, this choice for the intermediate personality development story is interesting because it is one of the weaker sequences as written ... which raises my expectation that they may be looking ahead at a possible second season even while planning this series. Keep thinking happy thoughts...
I suspect they figured they *needed* to show that Suzumiya wasn't all noise and lightning at this point.

[Seyluun]

Just finished watching it, and I wonder if Haruhi's power manifested to get this "happy ending"... So when Kyon and Itsuki debate about the shadow Haruhi saw, at the end of the ep, maybe they got it wrong: there actually was another man (the murderer), and then in the cave Haruhi rewrote reality.

[DragoonKain3]

This episode has been as dull as the previous episode chronologically....

But but but... those KyonXHaruhi moments more than made it up for me. Hey sue me, I'm a romantic at heart, hehehehe. I mean, the hand grabbing scene, which seemed so natural it looked as if it was second nature to them. Or that cliff falling scene; for someone who complains a lot about Haruhi's antics, he hasn't said a word or thought a snarky remark after he (unconsciously?) braces her fall with his body. Or the cave scene, in which Haruhi not only is reluctant to snap off her bra, but KyoAni also shows that she's changing away from Kyon's line of sight behind a rock, which is odd considering what we know of her in eps 2. And finally, the 'Otsukaresama, Kyon' was just mindblowing...

Oh wait, wasn't I supposed to be a KyonXMikuru supporter? Dammit, where's that tin foil hat... :D

Speaking of which, Goto Yuko has done it again. She was there for what, one line? For the fainting scene? It was totally awesome though. ^_^

And woohoo! I was right; it was Itsuki who Kyon approaches in that bedroom scene. Good thing it wasn't a BL scene as I suspected before, hehehehe. >:-)

[Kazu-kun]

Just finished watching it, and I wonder if Haruhi's power manifested to get this "happy ending"... So when Kyon and Itsuki debate about the shadow Haruhi saw, at the end of the ep, maybe they got it wrong: there actually was another man (the murderer), and then in the cave Haruhi rewrote reality.

I was thinking something like that. Haruhi seems to have changed reality in the cave.
Since this version of the story is different that the novel one, everything could be possible.

Talking about HaruhixKyon momments

Kyon: "Haruhi would never truly wish for a murder to happen... that's how she is"

Itsuki: "You have faith in Suzumiya-san"

Kyon: "......."

That was really unexpected from Kyon (and so cute too ^^)

[C.A.]

I voted 9, though it wasn't an exciting episode, its another episode of intricate details.

Firstly, Mikuru's fainting scene was really well done, so convincing I actually felt worried for her.

Next, the load of development between Haruhi and Kyon really satisfies me. They are destined to be couples lol

Yuki is really amusing lol, I can't get enough of her hiliarious actions, and did she actually smile there? I thought I saw a tiny grin from her.

Heres a question, whats that thing on the back of Kyon's neck that Itsuki was looking at?

[Radiosity]

I'm surprised no-one seems to be mentioning Kyon's neck at the end there. I'm interested to find out what the hell that was about (particularly since Itsuki patently is aware of it but saying nothing).

edit: C.A. obviously had the same thought as me :)

[iamandragon]

It's in oriental culture that you get that thingy(dunno it's english name...) if you lie...maybe it's implying Kyon is affacted by Suzumiya and is lying?

Just watched the subs today---brillant!

Just a question...since when Kyon can overrider Suzumiya's order for Nagato?

[hoon]

Gyakuten Saiban + Meitantei Conan reference made this episode awesome for me. :)

[C.A.]

lol thanks for the answer there, it just shows more that Haruhi and Kyon really has feelings for each other.

Yuki could have something for Kyon too and thats why she listens to him I think.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Just a question...since when Kyon can overrider Suzumiya's order for Nagato?
Yuki has no more reason to listen to Haruhi than to Kyon. Her boss is not Haruhi.

As for why she seemed to listen to Kyon...

It's the same reason why Yuki isn't wearing her glasses anymore. You will have to wait until episode 5 or so to find out what that is. (That's what happens when the show isn't in chronological order...:heh: )

[C.A.]

Yes its indeed because of what happened in episode 5 that Yuki actually feels something for Kyon I think.

I like the way kyonani arranged the episodes, giving questions and answering all of them later. Although since we already read the novels we can't benefit from the full 'wow' effect those who haven't read the novels will recieve.

[Onizuka-GTO]

It's in oriental culture that you get that thingy

eh?? i never heard that one before.... :rolleyes:


Just a question...since when Kyon can overrider Suzumiya's order for Nagato?


ditto. she has a thing for Kyon, its the next stage of evolution. Emo-for advance machine intelligence. great. The world is going to end, im sure.

:rolleyes: :D

[L33tmaster]

omfg that Phoenix Wright parody was absolutely priceless.

[Onizuka-GTO]

Haruhi likes DS. no wonder nintendo has such a good run of luck lately.... :p

[C.A.]

Haruhi likes DS. no wonder nintendo has such a good run of luck lately.... :p

What!? Haruhi supports Nintendo? If thats the case, I'll not be buying PS3 first, I think I'll go for the Wii lol

Anyway, another crazy theory from me again:

If the shadow character was Haruhi's creation, who would he want to kill?

Ans: Mikuru, since Haruhi said she would be a victim in episode 6.

But because of Yuki's presence, the would be murderer couldn't get pass the locked door and to Mikuru.

[Thelastguardian]

I'm surprised no-one seems to be mentioning Kyon's neck at the end there.
You can't answer when you don't know what it is yourself. The novels didn't have that sagment.

Go ask KyoAni.

The cave scene was well-done, if a bit overrated. KroAni could have "spread" the explainations in different scene and achieve the same effect.

Anyway I am glad they didn't go for the usual "sexual tension" cliche so often used when two main characters are stuck in a dark cave/hole/elevator/room.

Yuki has no more reason to listen to Haruhi than to Kyon. Her boss is not Haruhi. I know it's a joke, and Yuki already knows-it-all, but...

Well think of it this way: Kyon is the only person who has nothing to gain from the whole Haruhi mess. If I were Yuki, I would only trust Kyon. You wouldn't find me trusting Mikuru, Itsuki, or the observee subject, Haruhi.
Therefore Yuki only listens to Kyon.

[Decel]

ditto. she has a thing for Kyon, its the next stage of evolution. Emo-for advance machine intelligence. great. The world is going to end, im sure.

:rolleyes: :D
ROFL

At 12:00 of afk's sub, something seems to have happened. I really do have the impression that Haruhi re-wrote reality to spare Kyon and the rest.

I am wondering about the shadow, as well as the thingy on Kyon's neck.

Overall I'm giving this a 7. It is the least interesting ep so far imo. I don't see anything strange about Kyon shielding Haruhi, since I think he would have done the same for everyone else but Itsuki :heh:

So far the mysteries in this series kept me on the edge of my seat wondering about this and that (and reading spoilers on this forum, even though they're initially hidden in their tags :uhoh: ) but this ep felt somewhat dragged out. Also, I had the vague impression that Haruhi and Kyon's sister were out-of-character, though I can't exactly point out why.

Haruhi wondering about Kyon after the fall was pretty normal imo. She seemed rather troubled by the events and I'm positive that she would've been as worried about Itsuki. The hand holding and the changing in the cave however were very nice character development moments :D

Placing the last ep in the middle of the series, not sure how I'll react to that... :eyebrow:

Edit: Another thing about afk's sub, at 10:07 there's loss of sound, is that intentional or simply an error (my file's/afk's/raw's doesn't matter)

[melange]

Another thing about Yuki listening to Kyon. If you notice in the cave-cricket episode after Kyon asks her to stop moving she doesn't move at all until Kyon says "You can move now". There are many instances in the novels where Yuki seems to wait for the go-ahead from Kyon before doing something. It happens also in the novel during the baseball incident. After Itsuki asked Yuki to enchant the bat, Yuki looks at Kyon and only does it after Kyon nods. Unfortunately this was not shown in the anime.

[Decel]

Another thing about Yuki listening to Kyon. If you notice in the cave-cricket episode after Kyon asks her to stop moving she doesn't move at all until Kyon says "You can move now". There are many instances in the novels where Yuki seems to wait for the go-ahead from Kyon before doing something. It happens also in the novel during the baseball incident. After Itsuki asked Yuki to enchant the bat, Yuki looks at Kyon and only does it after Kyon nods. Unfortunately this was not shown in the anime.
Oohh, the baseball scene would be quite important imo, wonder why they skipped it.

[riznar]

Could Haruhi have wished for a happy ending when she realized what the alternative was? That may have been the alteration that was made.

[Seyluun]

Edit: Another thing about afk's sub, at 10:07 there's loss of sound, is that intentional or simply an error (my file's/afk's/raw's doesn't matter)

I thought it was because at this time ads aired (would make sens to put them at this moment).

[Deathkillz]

great eps but im a bit confused...when Itsuki told kyon of the 'false' deduction of wht happened (he died because the door rammed the knife into his heart) kyon sed that he had to silence Itsuki and we saw him getting strangled...then the plot just jumps to somewhere else with kyon and suzumiya and after a while when the truth was finally out Itsuki just mysteriously appeared...i mean wasnt he stranggled or was kyon a part of the whole thing?

[Decel]

I thought it was because at this time ads aired (would make sens to put them at this moment).
Ah, I didn't know about that, thanks!

[panzerfan]

The part of the story that I missed the 1st pass in raw was the part where Kyon mentions of that mysterious shadow to Itsuki. I find Itsuki's response there priceless... it's always good to leave a riddle to the riddler. I gotta admit, I find Kyon all the more impressive with his suspiction right from the beginning, his good observations and his ability to pull of that stunt with Haruhi. That said, Haruhi no doubt scores alot higher to the audience in the intelligence department after this episode.

Kyon really is the 'people's voice' and the honest broker... o I like this character all the more. Even Yuki confides in him.

The Phoenix Wright/Holmes/Conan references of course are all the rage now.

[Onizuka-GTO]

I say blame Nintendo and that cursed DS....

*watches as a Suzumiya Haruhi touch me games comes out*

woohoo!
:D

[CrowKenobi]

I gave it a nine. :D

Now for some thoughts...

I liked this episode. I liked the flow of the episode and how the situation was resolved. I chuckled at how detailed Haruhi's (and Itsuki's) description of the crime was compared to Kyon's (which looked liked his little sister drew it).

My interpretation of the cave scene is this: Haruhi didn't change the world, she changed herself. Notice how before the cave, she was into the investigation, while after the cave, she couldn't care less about it until the interregation scene (and it was up to the underlings to solve the case for her as Kyon constantly pointed out). In essence, she promoted herself from a boring-old police detective, to an exciting great detective (ala Sherlock Holmes) with all the glory that solving the crime entails.

I get the impression that Haruhi (Goddess that She is) gets easily bored with the little detail-ly things, and only gets excited for the "big picture-ry" type things.

I saw right away that Yuki would take Haruhi's words literally, and it had to make Haruhi wonder who really was in charge if Kyon could get Yuki to open the door when her attempts failed. (Remember, Kyon is the Keymaster. ;) :heh:)

[CrowKenobi]

DOUBLE POST! :p

I say blame Nintendo and that cursed DS....

*watches as a Suzumiya Haruhi touch me games comes out*

woohoo!
:D
:heh: :heh: :heh: :bow: :bow:

You do realize that if you touch Haruhi in the wrong place she'll reset reality on you. :nono: :D

[Decel]

You do realize that if you touch Haruhi in the wrong place she'll reset reality on you. :nono: :D
Or simply make your head roll :D

I bet she's just waiting for the occasion, having used that threat so often... :heh:

[Deathkillz]

heads rolling comming out of suzumiya's mouth is the scariest threat known to mankind...it WILL become reality...be sure to stay on her good side :p

[Shiroth]

Just watched the episode.. - If Haruhi said "Objection!" at that scene, that would have made my year! ;_;

I had a feeling it was just a game all along, maybe i've just watched to many day time tv shows, or played Phoenix Wright to much to know whats really going on. The shadow that Haruhi spotted out as got me thinking though..

All we need now is Phoenix Wright to appear in a episode, and i'll be one happy bunny.

[PhantomX]

Just watched the episode.. - If Haruhi said "Objection!" at that scene, that would have made my year! ;_;

I had a feeling it was just a game all along, maybe i've just watched to many day time tv shows, or played Phoenix Wright to much to know whats really going on. The shadow that Haruhi spotted out as got me thinking though..

All we need now is Phoenix Wright to appear in a episode, and i'll be one happy bunny.

THAT'S who the shadow was ... giving her tips about presenting her 'case' and teaching her all the good poses!

Haruhi just pretended to not know who it was when she saw him!

[Shiroth]

Well.. it could have been Edgeworth. =P

[Wandering_Youth]

There's something that's been bugging me after seeing the cave scene where Kyon and Haruji were talking. Near the end of that scene where Haruhi noticed something in her deduction there was a sudden flash. Did she alter reality right there or was that some minor irrelavant graphic.

[Shiroth]

There's something that's been bugging me after seeing the cave scene where Kyon and Haruji were talking. Near the end of that scene where Haruhi noticed something in her deduction there was a sudden flash. Did she alter reality right there or was that some minor irrelavant graphic.
She clicked onto the fact that the door was pushed onto him... Itsuki explained that short after.

[NeoSlicerZ]

O.o, this episode was a tad disappointing the the whole murder plot line. Sensible precaution... but disappointing ^^. I'm pretty surprised at Haruhi's tone at the end of the preview for the next episode though.

[arias]

Regarding Yuki opening the door for Kyon...

Someone mentioned that it was an evolution. Is that true?

Or could it be closer to, I think, someone else's theory that Kyon does have some powers. That is, when Yuki says "I was not instructed to open the door to any person", Kyon is an exception because he is not one. Hmm..

Maybe that's stretching it too far.

[Kamui4356]

Regarding Yuki opening the door for Kyon...

Someone mentioned that it was an evolution. Is that true?

Or could it be closer to, I think, someone else's theory that Kyon does have some powers. That is, when Yuki says "I was not instructed to open the door to any person", Kyon is an exception because he is not one. Hmm..

Maybe that's stretching it too far.
I think that comment was meant as a joke. I wouldn't read much into that incident. All it really shows is that Yuki trusts kyon. Though considering he's just a normal human, Yuki trusting him is saying a lot.;)

[Kazu-kun]

There's something that's been bugging me after seeing the cave scene where Kyon and Haruji were talking. Near the end of that scene where Haruhi noticed something in her deduction there was a sudden flash. Did she alter reality right there or was that some minor irrelavant graphic.

We're discussing that. It could be that she chaged reality or, like you said, just "some minor irrelavant graphic". We really don't know, and novel readers can't help us now because of the changes in the story. :confused:

[steelbound]

Regarding Yuki opening the door for Kyon I thought the look she gave (at 13:54/13:55 of a.f.k.'s fansub) when Kyon rescinding then overriding Haruhi's order was odd because I can't remember that much emotion on her face. It looked like Yuki was frightened or worried or something then when she opens the door she's back to her normal emotionless self.

[Onizuka-GTO]

DOUBLE POST! :p



OBJECTION! :frustrated:



You do realize that if you touch Haruhi in the wrong place she'll reset reality on you. :nono: :D

Well, it'll be worth the sacrifice, to touch divinity. :D

[PhantomX]

Regarding Yuki opening the door for Kyon I thought the look she gave (at 13:54/13:55 of a.f.k.'s fansub) when Kyon rescinding then overriding Haruhi's order was odd because I can't remember that much emotion on her face. It looked like Yuki was frightened or worried or something then when she opens the door she's back to her normal emotionless self.

I thought ... like someone else said, that it was more of a hint of a smile ... that's the impression I got at least :)

[Seyluun]

Whatever the distorsion was, it surely wasn't an "irrelevant detail", since there is no such thing so far in the entire serie.

[XiaNaphryz]

Well.. it could have been Edgeworth. =P

Speaking of which, I liked Itsuki's Edgeworth impersonation. It was a nice touch. :D

http://random-m.com/images/1403988177_1148438033173.png

I also liked how the music sped up during the Haruhi zoom-in to finger point scene, just like in the game.

[Kazu-kun]

Whatever the distorsion was, it surely wasn't an "irrelevant detail", since there is no such thing so far in the entire serie.

May be she altered reality after all. Either way will never know.

[CrowKenobi]

OBJECTION! :frustrated:
Objection overruled!!
I just had to say that... :p


Back to the 'distortion' thingy:

I really do think that Haruhi changed herself because of how she was feeling before the distortion. Before, she was feeling the heavy emotions of the situation and quite possibly felt that she couldn't deal with them (she did get what she wished for).
Also the situation in the cave quite possibly reminded her of the events in episode 6 (hopefully) of the anime (chapter 7 of the first novel) and she didn't want Kyon to see her that way again.So her sub-conscious changes the world around them: getting rescued real quick and turning her gameshark on letting her know all the answers to the mystery before her. Thus, the old "always in control" Haruhi is back and as annoying as ever.

[Ardee]

Going along with "there are no irrelevant details"...

Take a look when Haruhi's foothold on the cliff breaks away and they fall - it doesn't appear that any time has passed since the previous camera shot where there was no lower ledge to save them... Another intervention?


On another subject, what was with Kyon's "if I seal your lips..." scene with Itsuki - who were they putting on an act for?

[Nvis]

At the end where Koizumi was looking at Kyon's neck, then focusing specifically on the mole. I wonder if there is some sort of significance to the story...or Kyon for that matter.

[riznar]

People mentioned it, they just dont' know what a mole is for some reason. :p

[Nvis]

People mentioned it, they just dont' know what a mole is for some reason. :p

Maybe it's insignificant such as that woman on the ship that Kyon and Koizumi were looking at...

[PhantomX]

Going along with "there are no irrelevant details"...

Take a look when Haruhi's foothold on the cliff breaks away and they fall - it doesn't appear that any time has passed since the previous camera shot where there was no lower ledge to save them... Another intervention?


On another subject, what was with Kyon's "if I seal your lips..." scene with Itsuki - who were they putting on an act for?

I didn't really understand it either ... I figured it was just a last ditch effort to throw off the viewers.

[Vexx]

Some of the best directing yet.... the cave scene reminded me of some riff on the "Thin Man" series --- romance budding without romance. And Haruhi distortion of reality when she had her flash of insight.
The only reason I gave it an 8 instead of a 9 is that it was more of a leisurely intellectual feel rather than the energy levels of the previous episodes. Stilll, Orson Welles would be nodding sagely at this episode and most of the previous, in my opinion, for the directing and camera work.

My theory on the mole:

In *some* realities, Kyon has a mole ... in others he doesn't. Itsuki must be aware of this --- outside of that I don't have any thing else to add.


Oh... loved the Yuki dialog and isn't it interesting that Kyon can "override".

[Mr.Grudge]

Does anyone know if the mole was ever there before? I never noticed it but those kind of details are often omitted. Maybe it was a possible sign that reality had been altered.


In essence, she promoted herself from a boring-old police detective, to an exciting great detective (ala Sherlock Holmes) with all the glory that solving the crime entails.

In a way she does give Kyon credit when she says the Watson phrase. While Holmes did the deduction it was usually Watson who found the clues and gave him ideas. Even in one story when Watson is thought to be dead Holmes runs into trouble trying to solve the case and despairs that he may have needed Watson more than he thought.

Ironically, the phrase "Elementary, my dear Watson" never appeared in any of the original Sherlock Holmes stories. It first appeared in one of the film or radio adaptations.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

The episode is great for Haruhi's character development, but...
You know what's the most frustrating about all this?

I don't know why Kyon even bothers to interrogate Izumi for information. That guy lies for a living. Instead of going through all this trouble, Kyon could merely ask Yuki for whatever he needs to know.

In fact, even in the novels there was a specific aspect that was pointed to it; Izumi asked Yuki for the "corpse's temperature, then deducted the time of death from that. This was odd to Kyon, as it would be quicker to ask Yuki for the corpse's time of death... to which Yuki will reply that he ain't dead. Hence Izumi avoided talking to or question Yuki in the book.
(I prefer the book's version.)

I guess Yuki blends into the background so well, even Kyon forgets that she is around sometimes. A true sign of a skilled "observer".
Still, it's frustrating. Unlikely as it may seem, Yuki is a trustworthy ally to Kyon. I wish Kyon could ask her for aid more often; She will appreciate the companionship.

[migus_parvus]

Regarding Yuki opening the door for Kyon...

Someone mentioned that it was an evolution. Is that true?

Or could it be closer to, I think, someone else's theory that Kyon does have some powers. That is, when Yuki says "I was not instructed to open the door to any person", Kyon is an exception because he is not one. Hmm..

Maybe that's stretching it too far.

or it could be that...

kyon does not exist or isn't a "person", thus fulfilling the rule "don't open the door for anybody". anyways its a long shot theory.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

or it could be that...

kyon does not exist or isn't a "person", thus fulfilling the rule "don't open the door for anybody". anyways its a long shot theory.
That theory, unfortunately, is going to be shot to pieces in episode 5. But hey, nice try.

[icchan's_world]

really enjoyed this ep. i do think the flash haruhi got in the cave was the realisation that kyon n co. were the cause of the owner's death. haruhi did not tell this to kyon as she was hoping she was mistaken. good haruhi x kyon development. they'd make a great couple as haruhi would benefit from kyon's logical reasoning, and likewise haruhi would inject some enthusiasim in kyon. haruhi may have godly powers but she is just a teenage girl nevertheless, albeit a rather odd one. =D

[Alu]

It was a nice episode, finaly giving us the conclusion to what went on in the island, and all its purpose was to yet again.., Keep Haruhi entertained :p
As some mencioned it was not one of the best episodes, specialy comparing to the last one..

Never the less in this episode we got to see a compleatly more down-to-earth Haruhi then usual.., as in.. a person who in fact does care for her friends and those who are arround her.

Much like Kyon said.., in the begining she wanted a murder or something mysterious to happen.., and when it did.., she became frightneded and worried, as if.. she was only anxious for something to happen because it never does.

In the end though the episode gaved us some nice scenes, like previously mencioned aswell the Yuki scene at the door..
I still can't figure out if this was her idea of a joke or not.., since she in fact was behind the previous episode.., it could have been above all a small joke from part of her as oposite to as someone said.., evolution towards Kyon.

Thing that still gets me at the end of the episode was the camera focus by part of Itsuki on Kyon's mole behind his ear..; does anyone know what was the purpose of this ?

Anyway.., it was a decent episode.., I will give it an 8
Now.., one more week for the next.. :)

[Sorrow-K]

Some of the best directing yet.... the cave scene reminded me of some riff on the "Thin Man" series --- romance budding without romance. And Haruhi distortion of reality when she had her flash of insight.Agreed. And the directing has always been very good. It ranks very highly among the numerous highlights of this series, IMO.

This was an excellent episode, but that goes without saying for a Haruhi episode. Though, compared with other Haruhi episodes, I thought it was lacking. Obviously the comedy wasn't there, but they clearly weren't aiming for it in this ep (except for that legendary Phoenix Wright homage). But, what doesn't bode well with me, is that, in the episodes we haven't seen, clearly something has happened between Haruhi and Kyon. Yet, on the same token, whatever it was, it wasn't anything monumental (as suggested by the fact their relationship seems to be in some sort of state of uneasy equilibrium). And this is, what... episode 11, in the Haruhi episode ordering. Which means, if we're to believe the rumours of 14 episodes, if something does happen between these two, it'll happen entirely within 3 episodes. That's far too short for my liking.

Of course, everything I say will be null and void if Haruhi ends up running for longer than 20 episodes, but, given the rumours and the nature of the next episode preview from this ep, I'm suspecting more and more that Haruhi is going to have an unfortunately premature ending.

Which is a real, real pity.

[mugener]

I guess Yuki blends into the background so well, even Kyon forgets that she is around sometimes. A true sign of a skilled "observer".
Still, it's frustrating. Unlikely as it may seem, Yuki is a trustworthy ally to Kyon. I wish Kyon could ask her for aid more often; She will appreciate the companionship.

I think Yuki is with Izumi this time.

Since Izumi's doing this for lower the danger of Haruhi's free mind, this also what Yuki want.

So even if Kyon did ask her, I think she would keep slience this time since she want that happen.

So we can notice that after the event, during Haruhi's taliking, there's one sence
that Kyon watch Yuki with an unhappy face and think "She must know EVERYTHING along.:eyebrow: "

[Circular Logic]

This episode failed. I didn't even laugh, which is, after all, the point of the anime. Though I did smile at the Conan rip-off.

[Sorrow-K]

This episode failed. I didn't even laugh, which is, after all, the point of the anime. Though I did smile at the Conan rip-off.I wouldn't argue it was the point of this particular episode. This episode was more about Haruhi's view of Kyon and their rather subtle relationship development than anything else.

[C.A.]

This episode failed. I didn't even laugh, which is, after all, the point of the anime. Though I did smile at the Conan rip-off.

lol laughing isn't the point of this anime.

The point of this show is Haruhi herself, we are here to learn whether shes an almighty being or not and how she affects the world. This show is a point of view on reality.

And this episode focuses alot on Haruhi, which is why this episode is great.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I think Yuki is with Izumi this time.

Since Izumi's doing this for lower the danger of Haruhi's free mind, this also what Yuki want.

So even if Kyon did ask her, I think she would keep slience this time since she want that happen.

So we can notice that after the event, during Haruhi's taliking, there's one sence
that Kyon watch Yuki with an unhappy face and think "She must know EVERYTHING along.:eyebrow: "
Actually, Kyon has no right to complain. Yuki was created 3 years ago to function as the observer of Haruhi. Keeping silence is what she does.
There is not point claiming Yuki is hiding secrets if Kyon never asked her anything.
And as I said before, Kyon is in Yuki's debt.

Of course, everything I say will be null and void if Haruhi ends up running for longer than 20 episodes, but, given the rumours and the nature of the next episode preview from this ep, I'm suspecting more and more that Haruhi is going to have an unfortunately premature ending.

Which is a real, real pity.
The ending is next episode. You will find out soon enough.

Novels can have endings without being the size of LOTR.

[panzerfan]

The thing that I find most impressive is how Kyon is able to build on his cynicism towards Itsuki and ask all the relevant question then act on them. It leaves Itsuki having to do the most work of anyone else in turns of the mind game as Kyon is relentless in his analysis and rather resolved in his stance. Kyon outmanuovered Itsuki during that last moment of the ep. with the shadow and conspiring alongside Haruhi in the murder setup, which are spectacular to behold in hindsight.

Perhaps... this trait in Kyon is what intrigues every member of the SOS. Kyon's resilience and analysis are nothing short of venerable...

[Shiroth]

Speaking of which, I liked Itsuki's Edgeworth impersonation. It was a nice touch. :D

http://random-m.com/images/1403988177_1148438033173.png
Indeed, Itsuki really is the perfect Edgeworth. ^^

Anyway.. OBJECTION!

[monir]

lol laughing isn't the point of this anime.Of course it is the point of this anime. If the humor is stripped away from this series then what is the appeal of this show other than the spectacular animation (and Mikuru the moe-kami)?

The thing that I find most impressive is how Kyon is able to build on his cynicism towards Itsuki and ask all the relevant question then act on them. It leaves Itsuki having to do the most work of anyone else in turns of the mind game as Kyon is relentless in his analysis and rather resolved in his stance. Kyon outmanuovered Itsuki during that last moment of the ep. with the shadow and conspiring alongside Haruhi in the murder setup, which are spectacular to behold in hindsight.
I agree. Kyon was fantastic in this one even if it was enjoyable from a hindsight! The lacking in humor has been made up by an analytical Kyon which is why this episode gets a 7 from me.

On another subject, what was with Kyon's "if I seal your lips..." scene with Itsuki - who were they putting on an act for?
I thought they were putting on an act just incase anyone of the household was eavesdropping. The information then would be relayed to the "dead" man, who in turn, would freak out when the talk about stabbing him a few more time to be sure the "dead" man was indeed dead, which in turn, would wake the "dead". :)

[C.A.]

Of course it is the point of this anime. If the humor is stripped away from this series then what is the appeal of this show other than the spectacular animation (and Mikuru the moe-kami)?


If I wanted a good laugh, I'd rather watch Fumoffu or One Piece.

Personally I love the show because of the brilliant plot and storyline Tanigawa Nagaru came up with. The show's sci-fi elements and reality bending events is what that attracts me.

[Vexx]

Very little anime is ever played completely for laughs. I've lost track of the series that I *thought* were going to comedic and they turned out to have very tragic or dramatic elements. Since I favor "slice'o'life" romances, they tend to have multiple elements of comedy, drama, tragedy, etc.... though I prefer more light-hearted, I never really thought Haruhi was going to be all laughs and giggles. Here we have scifi mystery with splashes of romance, satire, and people with characteristics that can make you smile.

[justinstrife]

Some parts in this anime are funny, but as awhole, I haven't gotten the impression from watching it up till now, that it was suppose to primarily be a comedy.

I gave this episode an 8 for the Kyon and Haruhi development, and how freaking smart Kyon is showing himself to be about analytical things. The mole part is still bothering me on why they'd focus on that.

Mikuru's faint though was FTW I loved it. :heh:

[johnishida]

10!! I can't give 11 so it's 10 n_n

Loved it from the beggning to the end! I loved it from the "joke" of Yuki to actors who played the murder escene though, the best part of it was when Kyon acted as if he had the intention to kill Kouzumi and when he and Haruhi joined hands to wake Keiichi-san...

Of course there is no way I can forget the way Haruri and Kyon holded hands. How much Haruhi was worried about him when they fell and the whole cave escene.

Now, about the total number of episodes... I wonder how many will, actually, the anime have cause 15000+ Eps sounds way too much. Will it really have 12? I hope it gets, at least, 26 ¬¬

[C.A.]

Yea, I'd say 26 is a satisying number of episodes.

The hand holding scene was also my favourite, it definitely was a powerful statement telling us that Haruhi and Kyon really trusts each other.

[Kazu-kun]

Since the first episode is numbered as 00 (by Haruhi-sama!! :bow: ) and the next one as 14, it's safely to assume that it will have at least 15 episodes!

[Conan-san]

I'm not sure, but that blast of music that played when Haruhi went into "Rushing Objection" was probably a refrence to GS too.

[Woland]

Since the first episode is numbered as 00 (by Haruhi-sama!! :bow: ) and the next one as 14, it's safely to assume that it will have at least 15 episodes!

I probably miss that... when Haruhi say that "Asaina Mikuru no Bouken 00" is the ep 00?

[Kinny Riddle]

I give this episode an 8 (It was 7, but seeing close-up angle shots of Haruhi in her bra raised this to 8, it would no doubt be a 10 if they showed her completely. :heh: )

I don't think I paid attention to the conversation in the cave, as I was mesmerized and trying to wipe the blood off my nose at Haruhi squeezing her shirt dry, knowing that she's only in her bra, even though the shots are at different close-up angles. :love: :love: :love:

It's a good thing I read the novel and personally translated this chapter to understand what's going on anyway.

Kyon did all the deduction while letting Haruhi take all the credit, kind of like Conan letting Mori Gorou take all credit.

I just laughed out loud when I read that Yuki listens to Kyon only, more than she listens to Haruhi. Kyon x Yuki would definitely rank as my favourite pairing after Kyon x Haruhi.

As for Koizumi staring at Kyon's mole at his neck, this may be proof that
Koizumi has a big crush on Kyon. :heh:

One more thing, Haruhi never labelled episode 1 as "episode 0".

While it was titled as "episode 00" for Haruhi's movie, "The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru", this isn't "episode 0" of "The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi".

(Author Tanigawa intends to make a trilogy for "The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru", episode 00 was Mikuru's arc, while episode 01 would be Yuki's arc, and episode 02 Itsuki's arc, he's still thinking how to write them. )

[panzerfan]

Now that you mention it, the worst possible curveball in terms of storyline that can be thrown will be the inclusion of Haruhi Ep 0 for the future. Endless chaos will ensue as people try to make sense of where does Mikuru fit into the whole picture.

[Kaoru Chujo]

...One more thing, Haruhi never labelled episode 1 as "episode 0". While it was titled as "episode 00" for Haruhi's movie, "The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru", this isn't "episode 0" of "The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi".... Precisely right. Thank you.If I wanted a good laugh, I'd rather watch Fumoffu or One Piece. Personally I love the show because of the brilliant plot and storyline Tanigawa Nagaru came up with. The show's sci-fi elements and reality bending events is what that attracts me. My favorite element is the humor, which seems to me at a very high level of delicious absurdity -- when it's present, as it isn't always. Fumoffu and One Piece hardly make me smile. The godly animation comes next. The characters are also so touching and interesting. The plot and SF are next. With highly effective bits of moe over all, lol. I think this shows why the series is so popular: it has many elements, all at a high level, to appeal to various kinds of anime viewers.

[Geosigma]

Since I saw Episode 8 as well, I just had to do this:

http://www.militate.com/servers/1/attachments/thumb-108.jpg (http://www.militate.com/servers/1/attachments/108.jpg)
^ Click thumbnail above for full image

As I was watching Haruhi Suzumiya Episode 8, I've noticed some similarities going between this episode and a Nintendo DS game, Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney.

Yes... I think I've captured everything! Yes... I did all this myself.

[riznar]

You're a few days late dude. :p

[C.A.]

Since I saw Episode 8 as well, I just had to do this:

http://www.militate.com/servers/1/attachments/thumb-108.jpg (http://www.militate.com/servers/1/attachments/108.jpg)
^ Click thumbnail above for full image

As I was watching Haruhi Suzumiya Episode 8, I've noticed some similarities going between this episode and a Nintendo DS game, Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney.

Yes... I think I've captured everything! Yes... I did all this myself.

lol though you're a little late, but thats the best compilation I've seen yet!

More data for my Haruhiism folder!

[Geosigma]

You're a few days late dude.

What's that suppose to mean? I'm talking about I wanted to do those images, not showing what I've discovered. Of course everyone notices that, I'm not trying to prove anything, I just wanted to count how many they done. That's all.

No need to jump to conclusions now.

[C.A.]

What's that suppose to mean? I'm talking about I wanted to do those images, not showing what I've discovered. Of course everyone notices that, I'm not trying to prove anything, I just wanted to count how many they done. That's all.

No need to jump to conclusions now.

lol you're not replying to my post right? My post means a thanks:D

Anyway whats the game about? I've never heard of it before until this episode.

[Geosigma]

Iie (no), that statement was to riznar. But... anyhow.

If you want to see how Gyakuten Saiban (Phoenix Wright) functions then this link might clear some things up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jns2Dlv9S9w&search=Phoenix%20Wright

^ That's a promo for that game on TGS though, but it shows some stances that Haruhi does. Not to mention Isuki as well. If you watch closely, you can see the screen flashes just like Episode 8 did when Haruhi was up to something.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Since I saw Episode 8 as well, I just had to do this:.... Great stuff. Thanks.

[Bracken33]

I was a bit disappointed that Kyon did not really do strange things to Itsuki...*insert your fantasy here* :D
The whole anime would have turned to a darker direction.

Yuki totally confused me. Is Yuki really too unflexible to open the door? Does she only obey Kyon? Yuki´s face was so different, she scared me a bit.
Of course some posters here partially solved the problem...

Another thing about Yuki listening to Kyon. If you notice in the cave-cricket episode after Kyon asks her to stop moving she doesn't move at all until Kyon says "You can move now". There are many instances in the novels where Yuki seems to wait for the go-ahead from Kyon before doing something. It happens also in the novel during the baseball incident. After Itsuki asked Yuki to enchant the bat, Yuki looks at Kyon and only does it after Kyon nods. Unfortunately this was not shown in the anime.


God also lacks a surname, like Kyon.

Next episode please, I gave this one a 10.

[npal]

Well, I'd have given it a 9, but well, Mikuru talked a bit and she was gorgeous as always, so it's a 10 again :p

Anyone else saw Tantei Gakuen Q (dark generic face staring through the shadows) and Higurashi (Kyon's eyes when he was getting closer to the truth, Itsuki scene - reminded me of Keiichi) easter eggs?

I'll second most of the previous stuff (don't need to write everything again :p)

A fine episode more or less :D

[riznar]

What's that suppose to mean? I'm talking about I wanted to do those images, not showing what I've discovered. Of course everyone notices that, I'm not trying to prove anything, I just wanted to count how many they done. That's all.

No need to jump to conclusions now.
Sorry, I meant no offense. I thought you were indeed saying "Look what I discovered!"

[Sinestra]

first let me say Haruhi bra shot of goodness brightned my day. I loved how Kyon showed how intellgient he is even Harhui took most of the credit. It was fun watching them together and the cliff scene when she is looking over him with a worried expression was all too cute

[djc89]

Hmm I was watching parts of ep. 6 again, the 1st part of the vacation, and I realized that it was very smart of Kyoto Anime to split the two parts up by one episode. The outcome of the vacation would have been too obvious if the two parts were played back-to-back...So I guess there is some reason for the weird (not chornological) order of the episodes.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Hmm I was watching parts of ep. 6 again, the 1st part of the vacation, and I realized that it was very smart of Kyoto Anime to split the two parts up by one episode. The outcome of the vacation would have been too obvious if the two parts were played back-to-back...So I guess there is some reason for the weird (not chornological) order of the episodes.
I prefer the theory that KyoAni timed the release of episode 8 with the birthday of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (creator of Sherlock Holmes), which was 22nd of May.

[djc89]

Haha, is that so? That's pretty neat. But still, if they had aired one after the other it would have been to obvious, especially due to the conversation between Kyon and Itsuki about detectives and mysteries that occured on the ship in ep. 6. I completely forgot about the content of that conversation by the time the 2nd part, ep 8, came around...and therefore didn't suspect anything.

[Onizuka-GTO]

i can blieve the timing....after all they modified the sos-dan website logo at the same time it was altered in episode 07 when it was aired. :p

[kamikazex]

wow i dont even understand how the epsodes works..soo theres what at least 2 epsdoes left?

[tritoch]

3 episodes left from last count

[Mandrake]

Did anyone else think it was a fake from the beginning? Funnily enough I thought the same as Kyon, Haruhi wouldn't truelly have wanted someone dead...plus the knife in the book was suspicious. But I wouldnt have thought Itsuki was behind it.

[panzerfan]

(don't ask the novel readers as they've known that well in advance)...

[monir]

If I wanted a good laugh, I'd rather watch Fumoffu or One Piece.
They are good laugh but with different kind of humor than the ones in Suzumiya Haruhi. The humor in Suzumiya Haruhi is more subtle, implied, and even abstract at times which is not so intermittent to the basis of the show. For example, subtract Kyon's monologue (about 60% of the humor) and his cynicism, then subtract Haruhi's infectious and tiring upbeat energy, then subtract clutzy Mikuru, and while we are at it, let's take away the loli too. (Even the all-so-quiet Yuki is adding to the humor regularly.) The end result, we have an entirely different kind of show that probably wouldn't have enjoyed the popularity this show is currently enjoying. The fact is, humor is very important part of this show and without the humor, I don't see what would be the appeal of this show.

Personally I love the show because of the brilliant plot and storyline Tanigawa Nagaru came up with. The show's sci-fi elements and reality bending events is what that attracts me.
I would describe the animation brilliant, the cast of voice acting brilliant, but reserve the word "brilliant" for the storyline until I've seen the conclusion of this show. Personally speaking, I haven't much cared about the storyline up to episode 8 though it has its intriguing moment in episode 1 and 3. I'm simply liking the show for the laugh and for the potential drama/final act that to be played out by Kyon.

[PastPrime]

Did anyone else think it was a fake from the beginning? Funnily enough I thought the same as Kyon, Haruhi wouldn't truelly have wanted someone dead...plus the knife in the book was suspicious. But I wouldnt have thought Itsuki was behind it.
I thought that it was a setup from the start, based on Itsuki's conversation with Kyon on the boat and my thinking that they would not have Haruhi cause a real murder.

[Nurika]

lolol I thought this episode was greatt. <333

[Kaoru Chujo]

wow i dont even understand how the episodes works..soo theres what at least 2 episodes left? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I think there are 6 episodes left. The DVD release info makes it look as if there will be 14 episodes total. We've seen 8, so there are 6 left. I think. Unless Haruhi (or KyoAni) decides to change reality.

[Vexx]

... and the disorientation begins..... next we'll start seeing reality distortions. Oh wait, people already do that.

[C.A.]

They are good laugh but with different kind of humor than the ones in Suzumiya Haruhi. The humor in Suzumiya Haruhi is more subtle, implied, and even abstract at times which is not so intermittent to the basis of the show. For example, subtract Kyon's monologue (about 60% of the humor) and his cynicism, then subtract Haruhi's infectious and tiring upbeat energy, then subtract clutzy Mikuru, and while we are at it, let's take away the loli too. (Even the all-so-quiet Yuki is adding to the humor regularly.) The end result, we have an entirely different kind of show that probably wouldn't have enjoyed the popularity this show is currently enjoying. The fact is, humor is very important part of this show and without the humor, I don't see what would be the appeal of this show.


I would describe the animation brilliant, the cast of voice acting brilliant, but reserve the word "brilliant" for the storyline until I've seen the conclusion of this show. Personally speaking, I haven't much cared about the storyline up to episode 8 though it has its intriguing moment in episode 1 and 3. I'm simply liking the show for the laugh and for the potential drama/final act that to be played out by Kyon.

Hey its not like I'm saying that the show isn't funny at all. The show is a comedy with clever humour. But if I wanted to watch an anime purely for laughs, I would want to watch one that would produce a bigger magnitude of laughter. And that I gave examples of slapsticks like Fumoffu and One Piece, which brought me to tears laughing. Slapsticks are not really clever humour, but when done correctly they produce the most amount of laughter. Brainy comedies like Haruhi, doesn't produce as much laughter, it humours you, you feel the humour and its a good feeling, but you won't neccessarily laugh loudly.

Oh yes Yuki is hiliarious, shes the one that brought me the most amount of humour, she almost brought me to tears when she played baseball. In fact if you do a search on my posts, every episode I would give points to Yuki for being the funniest character. Kyon is the 2nd funniest character for me, he is the major portion of the 'brainy humour' we have in Haruhi, Yuki herself produces humour thats more slapstick.

[Vexx]

yes... yuki..... the funny lady of the show. Actually the funniest Yuki bit for me was the two seconds in the library Kyon took her to when she first realized that libraries were the Heaven of Books. Did you see how she walked away from Kyon towards the stacks. She was leaning forward and tiptoeing almost like she was floating towards yummy snacks.

[Lost]

Did anyone else think it was a fake from the beginning? Funnily enough I thought the same as Kyon, Haruhi wouldn't truelly have wanted someone dead...plus the knife in the book was suspicious. But I wouldnt have thought Itsuki was behind it.
Not me... Tho in hindsight it was pretty obvious (what isn't?), I was taken along for the ride like an unthinking rock; of the things Haruhi pointed out in her Ultra-detective moment, I only noticed one (Koizumi running straight to Keiichi's room) and that was because I read it here in the forum :heh:

I liked the way Kyon made Keiichi and gang come clean. For a moment, I really expected him to stab him; that part made me laugh out. Call me a rock. I also liked the part where Kyon was wondering if "not opening the door" was the closiest Yuki could get to a joke, I dont think it was meant to be, after all, she is the creation of a data-entity... and data is data, no more, no less.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I think there are 6 episodes left. The DVD release info makes it look as if there will be 14 episodes total. We've seen 8, so there are 6 left. I think. Unless Haruhi (or KyoAni) decides to change reality.
Is that so? So according to the next episode preview, the next episode we will be seeing will actually be 14?

did you see how she walked away from Kyon towards the stacks. She was leaning forward and tiptoeing almost like she was floating towards yummy snacks.
LOL.. Kyon had to drag her out..

*looks at trends on CG's post* WTH Singapore???

[C.A.]

yes... yuki..... the funny lady of the show. Actually the funniest Yuki bit for me was the two seconds in the library Kyon took her to when she first realized that libraries were the Heaven of Books. Did you see how she walked away from Kyon towards the stacks. She was leaning forward and tiptoeing almost like she was floating towards yummy snacks.

Yea thats the most amazing/interesting style of walking I've ever seen lol

[Cloudy]

i like the part when Haruhi gives her own deduction of the murder,it was done with live action and animated backgrounds,it looks like something out of a movie from the 1960s.

[rain...]

Originally posted by Cloudy
i like the part when Haruhi gives her own deduction of the murder,it was done with live action and animated backgrounds,it looks like something out of a movie from the 1960s.

Kyo Ani cinematography at it's best. I wonder where Kyo Ani's talents are coming from?

[Kaoru Chujo]

yes... yuki..... the funny lady of the show. Actually the funniest Yuki bit for me was the two seconds in the library Kyon took her to when she first realized that libraries were the Heaven of Books. Did you see how she walked away from Kyon towards the stacks. She was leaning forward and tiptoeing almost like she was floating towards yummy snacks. More championship animation! Similar to her gait as she was crossing home plate in the baseball episode. There it was more "dum-de-dum," floating home. I think there may be meant to be something a bit robotic about it, too.

[PhantomX]

I think she really only does it when she's 'running' as she seems to walk perfectly normal. I guess if you see her tiptoeing/half-floating, she's probably excited or something to that effect XD

[Anime Online]

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yuki7gy.jpg

With the development of the story thus far, I thought to revisit the question of yuki's expression at 13:54 (see image above). Perhaps we can gain some new insight.

That was basically the most expression I've seen Yuki ever display through 11 episodes. Is it shock? Fear? Uncertainty? Whatever it is, we know Yuki looked calm and unperturbed when the door was opened. But since it was such a deviation from her normal expression, it became something that kept tugging at the edge of my mind. Surely it must have meant something!

Kyon had surmised that not opening the door was a joke played by Yuki. We know that Yuki seems to view Kyon as someone important, or at least his views somehow matter to her. How does this tie in with her sudden show of expression?

Perhaps this is a mystery not meant to be solved, much like Kyon's mole, but I'm interested to hear what some of us think.

[Biswa]

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yuki7gy.jpg

With the development of the story thus far, I thought to revisit the question of yuki's expression at 13:54 (see image above). Perhaps we can gain some new insight.

That was basically the most expression I've seen Yuki ever display through 11 episodes. Is it shock? Fear? Uncertainty? Whatever it is, we know Yuki looked calm and unperturbed when the door was opened. But since it was such a deviation from her normal expression, it became something that kept tugging at the edge of my mind. Surely it must have meant something!

Kyon had surmised that not opening the door was a joke played by Yuki. We know that Yuki seems to view Kyon as someone important, or at least his views somehow matter to her. How does this tie in with her sudden show of expression?

Perhaps this is a mystery not meant to be solved, much like Kyon's mole, but I'm interested to hear what some of us think.

Yeah, i noticed that and the mole the second time through! I hope they explain all that in a sequel!!!

ALSO i wonder if there will be any development with the shadow that was seen at the island by Haruhi...? ANything in the novels about that yet? If there is, no need to spoil it, but just a yes or no please :P. THanks!

[whitewater_81]

Hey guys, just wanna ask what was the mole on Kyon's neck mean?Or does it have any meaning or connection at all??Please help.Can't get this off my mind..:upset:

[CrowKenobi]

Hey guys, just wanna ask what was the mole on Kyon's neck mean?Or does it have any meaning or connection at all??Please help.Can't get this off my mind..:upset:Well, as far as we know, it doesn't have any significance at all. <shrugs shoulders> :D

[FatPianoBoy]

Hey guys, just wanna ask what was the mole on Kyon's neck mean?Or does it have any meaning or connection at all??Please help.Can't get this off my mind..:upset:

It means KyoAni likes to screw with your head :p

Seriously, that's nowhere in the original novel, so it's probably just a red herring.

[whitewater_81]

lol.haha!:p

Damn KyoAni!!Thought there was something i missed!Anyway, thanks guys!:D

But who knows?....maybe there is....we just don't know yet... :eyespin:


:heh:

[haku2pure]

Sorry for the bump, I just want to give my theory of the mole >.>;
I've been looking for a forum to give my two cents in.

Itsuki has stated that his outer attitude is a facade and that his real attitude is not very appealing. This might be a hint toward that, Itsuki the normally kind individual noticing simple flaws of the human body giving it a sinister glare of contempt is a change in his character and all together surprising.

That's what I think it was about anyway.

[Digital Rain]

It's in oriental culture that you get that thingy(dunno it's english name...) if you lie...maybe it's implying Kyon is affacted by Suzumiya and is lying?

This seems like the best answer for that mole scene. If it is true, was Kyon lying about knowing it was a hoax the whole time? Or something else?