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Naruto has been a huge dissapointment, on the other hand they made Sasuke like this super strong dude. For what reason Naruto is such this weakling??? Naruto promised Sakura he will take back Sasuke next tiime with his powers, what happen to "Naruto's ways of a Ninja" what example Kish is setting up for the kids.
Is he trying to make the Kids hate or something. (setting some bad examples)
He is a gold digger that only cares about the money and rating of the Characters. Ever since day one..., Naruto was treated unfair as a main character, like a stepping stone.
Im not a huge Naruto character fan or anything, but the way the Author is mistreating Naruto is unfair, Naruto looks like a total fool after 2.5 years.
Jiraiya trained Naruto's Kyuubi powers, Naruto in kyuubi form is stronger than Orochimaru.
I dont see how people think Sasuke is over-powered and Naruto isnt.
Naruto can kill Orochimaru in 1 jutsu ^_^.
Have you ever considered the fact that manga is big business and when the publisher doesn't like the way the story evolves, the mangaka has to shut up and comply when if he wants to get his money?
I'd rather complain with Shounen Jump Weekly rather than with Kishimoto sensei!
ccardoso
2006-05-26, 04:21
Jiraiya trained Naruto's Kyuubi powers, Naruto in kyuubi form is stronger than Orochimaru.
I dont see how people think Sasuke is over-powered and Naruto isnt.
Naruto can kill Orochimaru in 1 jutsu ^_^.
Kyuubi ISN'T Naruto... Orochimaru can be defeated by Kyuubi, yes of course, who can't be defeated by that BUT... Naruto with 4 tails is berserk so he attacks anything and anyone on his path.
Just some smartness and the wild beast is in a cage.
Kyuubi ISN'T Naruto... Orochimaru can be defeated by Kyuubi, yes of course, who can't be defeated by that BUT... Naruto with 4 tails is berserk so he attacks anything and anyone on his path.
Just some smartness and the wild beast is in a cage.
Kyuubi is part of Naruto, when he needs he can use that power , its still Naruto in the fight.
Jiraiya trained Naruto's Kyuubi powers, Naruto in kyuubi form is stronger than Orochimaru.
I dont see how people think Sasuke is over-powered and Naruto isnt.
Naruto can kill Orochimaru in 1 jutsu ^_^.
And look what is Naruto is trying to do, he is trying to banish Kyuubi powers and so far the default Naruto has been nothing but a fool, every battle he get played like a freaking fool. He has to go all.. Kamakaze is win a simple battle....
And look what is Naruto is trying to do, he is trying to banish Kyuubi powers and so far the default Naruto has been nothing but a fool, every battle he get played like a freaking fool. He has to go all.. Kamakaze is win a simple battle....
Well Yamato just told him he was stronger without using kyuubi and he knows he hurt Sakura, what do you expect him to do...
That is the point, ever since Naruto grown up. Kish still gotta make him a fool, and dependent of Kyuubi all the time. He could of made Naruto alot stronger to without Kyuubi in the picture....but he didn't. He does the same Lame tricks...Bunshin then Rasengan.....
Sasuke is super strong? To me he's still a weakling.. He just outmatched Naruto in speed and managed to trick Yamato. I dont think a serious naruto would be so crushed by him.
Nah, He outmatch Naruto in speed, Stunned Sai, Stoped Yamato's Jutsu and Stunned him, Went in Naruto's mind with genjutsu, nearly simutaniously. Sasuke is Super strong, not to be bias or anything because im not even a fan of Sasuke. Naruto is defeated already, Sasuke already in the mind of Naruto, who know what else he could of done to Naruto. Maybe Kyuubi can save Naruto Butt from the genjutsu because we know how crazy Kyuubi gets.
Jiraiya trained Naruto's Kyuubi powers, Naruto in kyuubi form is stronger than Orochimaru.
I dont see how people think Sasuke is over-powered and Naruto isnt.
Naruto can kill Orochimaru in 1 jutsu ^_^.
Given the right opportunities, maybe. But with the right opportunities anyone can kill anyone in one move.
If Naruto would be able to kill Orochimaru simply with one jutsu, Orochimaru would already be dead. The ninja uses jutsu to achieve the upper-hand in combat and a chance to finish them off, the finishing move itself isnt what's most impressing. Against Orochimaru, there's no way that Naruto would gain an upper-hand like that in his current state.
Orochimaru has way too much skill and experience to be overpowered by a crazed fox, it was obvious in the fight that he was just playing around with Naruto anyway.
And Sasuke isnt over-powered, he just surprised Team 7. I dont think he would stand a chance in a longer fight.
Naruto can kill Orochimaru in 1 jutsu ^_^.
Do you realize what Uchiha Rave just said O.o
One point for Naruto \(^_^)/
Im saying when will Naruto become stronger, not Kyuubi...
Last_Hope
2006-05-26, 15:09
Im saying when will Naruto become stronger, not Kyuubi...
Considering that we´ve been getting hints more and more often lately the time will come when Naruto will fight without tapping into Kyuubi´s chakra. And I don´t think Kyuubi has become any stronger since the start of the show. :p
I must say, the fillers irritate me so much and what has kept me sane was the manga. But now, that in itself is becoming very displeasing. I, like the many other guys, find everything just to be ridiculous. Does the term it does not compute rings a bell. I know most of you can force upon an explanation, but that is just not acceptable to me or many others out there. I guess making the main character to be a useless pathetic person is somehow enjoyable to everybody? Pardon the word pathetic because if the main character doesn't even stand a chance by the many main villains, he is pathetic. I'm sure he is not the weakest in the narutoverse, but what I want to see is the main character doing a little bit of ass kicking. And Naruto hasn't shown any of those. For the sake of argument, he is nothing without kyuubi and the show is call Naruto. He has no power of his own. Now if the show would be called "Sasuke" or "Kyuubi" I would have no problems whatsoever. Show us some originality.
I don't mind that naruto is a little "stupid" but show us something that only he can do? Also, what's up with the emotional crap about Sasuke. Over the 2.5 years, hasn't he grown any (mature). It seems everyone is progressing at an exponential rate, but our little hero is still in his diaper. I don't see how he can compete with the best villains unless they do another timeskip or doing something dramatic like the (3 days bankai) but that would ruin the whole story.
And if you guys are refering to "that jutsu", I'm not impress. If you were to tell me in the 2.5 years all he managed to do is learned 1 new jutsu and some few innovations. I say that was pathetic. Kishi, had the perfect chance to show us that Naruto can be great after the time skip but it didn't happen. It's would be plausible to put Naruto in the Kage level, or higher since he already has half of the component to make him one of the most powerful person. All he needs was technique and knowledge, and sadly he gained none of it.
So tell me friend, what now? All (most) of my hopes have been dashed.
I say change the name of the show to "Sasuke" or "Kyuubi" and end Naruto's torment. Saving face as you will.
It was cool and thrilling to see Naruto going 4 tails kyubi, it was something we've never seen before.. so a mini Kyubi pummeling Oro was fun.
But still, at this point we can clearly see that Naruto just has no touch, no special something.. no style.. it's still the old "i get mad at you! taste kyubi now! rawr!".
Sasuke looked pretty good, maybe overpowered in a way, but everything he did was new, stylish and it was overall suprising. I do hope Naruto now shows his signature and shows us some original and suprising jutsu's / stuff.
Yellow Flash
2006-05-27, 17:25
If Naruto would be able to kill Orochimaru simply with one jutsu, Orochimaru would already be dead.
Well, no. Naruto didn't use a single jutsu during the battle. We have yet to see "that" jutsu.
venom1221
2006-05-27, 17:33
Lol naruto is basically a joke in the manga
In 3 years he has learned no new jutsus and keeps using kagebushin and rasengan
Its really boring to see him go Kyuubi form and just do mindless attacks
Alice Elliot
2006-05-27, 19:53
I don't think that Jiraiya just focused on training Naruto's Kyuubi form, he also knows that Kyuubi shortens his life span and can get really dangerous... I guess there's still more to come, Itachi is afraid of Jiraiya and Oro said once that he wouldn't be able to kill Itachi, so Jiraiya should still have really powerful jutsus we didn't see yet and it seems that one of those is a mass-damage-jutsu, because Itachi mentioned something like "In the best case we could kill him but we would die along with him and no matter how much people we were, the result would be the same". I think he taught Naruto a bit of non-Kyuubi stuff as well. Well I can't prove it with any facts or smth, but I think there's still more to come from Naruto.
bdragonomega
2006-05-27, 23:04
I hope naruto gets a new jutsu... he's been training for three years... yeah, but even more, i hope naruto at least got more clever. I mean, naruto can probably do some wickedly cool ass tricks with all his kage clones around... but he usually just throws them at the opponent to eat up.
Ichimaru
2006-05-28, 04:30
if you guys seen the movie 2, in one of the scenes he didnt use a bushin to help make a rasengen, is he improvin i dunno, but the author has made a mockery out of naruto, dude is so much dependent on the 9 tail fox.
Look at gaara for example, he didnt use the shakkaku untill he needed to. His more dependent on his skills and the sand denfence barrier.
I must say, the fillers irritate me so much and what has kept me sane was the manga. But now, that in itself is becoming very displeasing. I, like the many other guys, find everything just to be ridiculous. Does the term it does not compute rings a bell. I know most of you can force upon an explanation, but that is just not acceptable to me or many others out there. I guess making the main character to be a useless pathetic person is somehow enjoyable to everybody? Pardon the word pathetic because if the main character doesn't even stand a chance by the many main villains, he is pathetic. I'm sure he is not the weakest in the narutoverse, but what I want to see is the main character doing a little bit of ass kicking. And Naruto hasn't shown any of those. For the sake of argument, he is nothing without kyuubi and the show is call Naruto. He has no power of his own. Now if the show would be called "Sasuke" or "Kyuubi" I would have no problems whatsoever. Show us some originality.
I don't mind that naruto is a little "stupid" but show us something that only he can do? Also, what's up with the emotional crap about Sasuke. Over the 2.5 years, hasn't he grown any (mature). It seems everyone is progressing at an exponential rate, but our little hero is still in his diaper. I don't see how he can compete with the best villains unless they do another timeskip or doing something dramatic like the (3 days bankai) but that would ruin the whole story.
And if you guys are refering to "that jutsu", I'm not impress. If you were to tell me in the 2.5 years all he managed to do is learned 1 new jutsu and some few innovations. I say that was pathetic. Kishi, had the perfect chance to show us that Naruto can be great after the time skip but it didn't happen. It's would be plausible to put Naruto in the Kage level, or higher since he already has half of the component to make him one of the most powerful person. All he needs was technique and knowledge, and sadly he gained none of it.
So tell me friend, what now? All (most) of my hopes have been dashed.
I say change the name of the show to "Sasuke" or "Kyuubi" and end Naruto's torment. Saving face as you will.
i believe he said it best
how is it the main charactor in the story is so weak
if you notice naruto wins he's fight mainly on power.
no type of skill what so ever.
Orochimaru did't get owned by 4tail
after the 2.5 years there has only been 1 time naruto looked like he had skill
and that was when he stoped sand lady atk (she was attackin kikashi)
and maby when he tried to counter itachi atk
I'm confident that Naruto is stronger than we think he is right now. He was too eager to rely on Kyuubi before and so we never got a chance to see him fight on his own merits, but I think that now that Yamato has talked some sense into him, we'll see his true power when a real fight comes along. Kishimoto is setting us up to underestimate Naruto and be really surprised when he shows what he's truly capable of.
We saw Sakura's improvements, we saw Naruto's improvement fighting like a monster and we are seeing Sasuke's improvement right now.
Let's hope that Kishimoto is setting the story to lead to Naruto's improvement as a human.
I will vote for the "Getting stronger by protecting those you love". I think thats the power Yamato was talking about, and I think that will be Naruto trump card.
i hope he does improve. yes and it does seem that finaly Kishimoto has come to improve naruto as a whole.
I believe that Naruto is already stronger than Sasuke and team 7 was just surprised by unexpected moves/jutsus. When the fight continues, neither Naruto nor anyone else of team 7 will be surprised like before.
Yamato said that Naruto doesn´t need to rely on kyuubis chakra because he can stand this. Naruto is still the #1 surprising ninja and will soon show his stuff.
Maybe Jiraya got the Yondaimes book from Tsunade and made Nauto learn more than just one (maybe "this") jutsu.
Don´t give up hope because it´s too early ;)
I believe that Naruto is already stronger than Sasuke and team 7 was just surprised by unexpected moves/jutsus. When the fight continues, neither Naruto nor anyone else of team 7 will be surprised like before.
Yamato said that Naruto doesn´t need to rely on kyuubis chakra because he can stand this. Naruto is still the #1 surprising ninja and will soon show his stuff.
Maybe Jiraya got the Yondaimes book from Tsunade and made Nauto learn more than just one (maybe "this") jutsu.
Don´t give up hope because it´s too early ;)
Yeah right,:eyespin: there is still a lot of Manga chapters left, so Naruto should not be stronger now than Sasuke, this will just take the excitement out of the series.
Missilebuster
2006-05-29, 23:47
Well, no. Naruto didn't use a single jutsu during the battle. We have yet to see "that" jutsu.
did you consider that maybe "that jutsu" is simply releasing some fox chakra?
To play the other side, we never saw what naruto was going to do in response to sasuke trying to stab him, we dont know if he has some new jutsu or hidden power that he was going to use because sai jumped in. (maybe he was just going to be stabbed though :heh: )
FireDetei
2006-05-30, 07:03
Naruto has already been weakened due to the fight with oro, and yet STILL walks on. He even used the last of his chakra to make a few Kage Bushin. SO w/o any chakra wtf do u expect Naruto to do? He has already said NO! to the fox helping him, so we aint gonna be seeing another Nejii fight again where he pulls chakra out of his ass. He's completly exhausted, Sasuke is fresh, so ofc Sasuke gonna seem Godly atm.
Naruto hasn't been made to look like a fool at all, during his fight against Kakshi he showed high amounts of potential and even Sakura commented on this. He even found out Kakashi's weak point, although it wasnt his acctual weak point but still a weak point. He showed alot of intelligence to realise it. It was a weakpoint that you could only possibly know if you've spent alot of time with someone, and I think that's also whats gonna happen with Sasuke.
I have to say that imo, Kishi is playing it a bit too slow. Granted if Naruto came back after the time skip and was Kage Level it would be far more entertaining, but the show wouldn last much longer. Naruto isnt even that type of Ninja, the only way Naruto becomes powerful is when one of his "important people" is in danger, ie Sasuke Sakura Iruka or Kakashi. When one of those is in danger he has shown he has the ability to beat the impossible. His fight against Gaara just sums this up. To me that was his most impressive fight. Just a shame during the fillers he went downhill again, but its deffinatly picked up again in the manga, not to the same extent, but its rising.
knoxie0512
2006-05-30, 08:28
if you guys seen the movie 2, in one of the scenes he didnt use a bushin to help make a rasengen, is he improvin i dunno, but the author has made a mockery out of naruto, dude is so much dependent on the 9 tail fox.
tbh, the movies always stray from the storyline e.g. in the first one we see him doing a multicoloured resengan which is basically unexplained.. and the second movie is set somewhere just after sasuke leaves and before naruto begins his training with jiraiya... so theyr kinda off topic.. and in the manga we haven't rlly been told that we've seen all of naruto's jutsus up to date, most of his fights we've seen so far haven't shown his full abilities - you can tell he's improved his strategies from seeing the bell test that he and sakura take against kakashi on naruto's return. all other fights we see he goes kyubi almost straight away, which makes him v undecisive but gives him uber power ;/
Naruto has already been weakened due to the fight with oro, and yet STILL walks on. He even used the last of his chakra to make a few Kage Bushin. SO w/o any chakra wtf do u expect Naruto to do? He has already said NO! to the fox helping him, so we aint gonna be seeing another Nejii fight again where he pulls chakra out of his ass. He's completly exhausted, Sasuke is fresh, so ofc Sasuke gonna seem Godly atm.
Naruto hasn't been made to look like a fool at all, during his fight against Kakshi he showed high amounts of potential and even Sakura commented on this. He even found out Kakashi's weak point, although it wasnt his acctual weak point but still a weak point. He showed alot of intelligence to realise it. It was a weakpoint that you could only possibly know if you've spent alot of time with someone, and I think that's also whats gonna happen with Sasuke.
I have to say that imo, Kishi is playing it a bit too slow. Granted if Naruto came back after the time skip and was Kage Level it would be far more entertaining, but the show wouldn last much longer. Naruto isnt even that type of Ninja, the only way Naruto becomes powerful is when one of his "important people" is in danger, ie Sasuke Sakura Iruka or Kakashi. When one of those is in danger he has shown he has the ability to beat the impossible. His fight against Gaara just sums this up. To me that was his most impressive fight. Just a shame during the fillers he went downhill again, but its deffinatly picked up again in the manga, not to the same extent, but its rising.
Yeah getting comment from the most pathetic person such as sakura is something really special? Please GOD strike her now.
I must say, the fillers irritate me so much and what has kept me sane was the manga. But now, that in itself is becoming very displeasing. I, like the many other guys, find everything just to be ridiculous. Does the term it does not compute rings a bell. I know most of you can force upon an explanation, but that is just not acceptable to me or many others out there. I guess making the main character to be a useless pathetic person is somehow enjoyable to everybody? Pardon the word pathetic because if the main character doesn't even stand a chance by the many main villains, he is pathetic. I'm sure he is not the weakest in the narutoverse, but what I want to see is the main character doing a little bit of ass kicking. And Naruto hasn't shown any of those. For the sake of argument, he is nothing without kyuubi and the show is call Naruto. He has no power of his own. Now if the show would be called "Sasuke" or "Kyuubi" I would have no problems whatsoever. Show us some originality.
I don't mind that naruto is a little "stupid" but show us something that only he can do? Also, what's up with the emotional crap about Sasuke. Over the 2.5 years, hasn't he grown any (mature). It seems everyone is progressing at an exponential rate, but our little hero is still in his diaper. I don't see how he can compete with the best villains unless they do another timeskip or doing something dramatic like the (3 days bankai) but that would ruin the whole story.
And if you guys are refering to "that jutsu", I'm not impress. If you were to tell me in the 2.5 years all he managed to do is learned 1 new jutsu and some few innovations. I say that was pathetic. Kishi, had the perfect chance to show us that Naruto can be great after the time skip but it didn't happen. It's would be plausible to put Naruto in the Kage level, or higher since he already has half of the component to make him one of the most powerful person. All he needs was technique and knowledge, and sadly he gained none of it.
So tell me friend, what now? All (most) of my hopes have been dashed.
I say change the name of the show to "Sasuke" or "Kyuubi" and end Naruto's torment. Saving face as you will.
Could not have said it better myself. Naruto (the series) is all a big tease and no delivery. This is especially true for the title character, in no manga that i have read is the main character's progressed dwafed by all his peers. Now maybe Naruto really is stronger than even the 4th right now, but he has shown nothing to suggest that he can even fight evenly with Deidra, prolly the weakest Akasuki out there.
You don't see me posting that much on the bleach (or any forum) as much as the Naruto forum, mainly because these serieses don't dissappoint me. I get what I expect and sometimes more. I liked Naruto because of its interesting subplots, which made the manga seem much deeper than other mangas, and likiable main character. But Kishimoto has not shown any indications of revealing/resolving the mysteries of the plot, which I have just chalked up to bad storytelling. Kishi can't explain things even he doesn't know, which why I said the plot is just out of control. Kishi just introduces new stuff without resolving the old.
But my main gripe is how degenerative Naruto, who is my personal fav, has not developed at all. Sure everyone loved seeing Neo as a n00b in Matrix 1, but in Matrix 2 he was the shit. Did Kishimoto miss that memo? This is how you show protaganists' growth....
Luminion Lancer
2006-05-31, 13:52
But my main gripe is how degenerative Naruto, who is my personal fav, has not developed at all. Sure everyone loved seeing Neo as a n00b in Matrix 1, but in Matrix 2 he was the shit. Did Kishimoto miss that memo? This is how you show protaganists' growth....
-Well said, you took the words right out of mind. Seriously what's the deal here? Since when has it been written that the main character of a series cannot get his moments of glory in the later parts of the story? He had his golden moments in the first part of the series so why not now? Ugh...whatever I suppose ranting and blaming things that are out of our control is a fruitless endevour. I guess all we can do (those that actually care about Naruto's developments and improvements) is trust Kishimoto-sensei's actions until the end.
KingCree
2006-05-31, 17:18
im new here but whatever...
First offf sasuke is not stronger than orichimaru because if you remember when orichamaru appeared before yamato and kabuto it was a suprise to yamato but when sasuke was all fast yamato jsut said fast. Also we have never really seen naruto fight without kyuubi because every time were about to see him fight the enemy makes fun of sasuke or something so he has no chance. Also Yamato is stupid beause Naruto should sue his power for instance in Spider Man theres the famous quote "with great power comes great responsibility" so i think naruto's new fighting style will be incorporating kyuubi power at certian times.
Second off the talk between Naruto and kyuubi in the latest chapter indicated that they had more talks since the last time we saw them talking. Considering the time between first and second arc was longer than the first arc.
Naruto is stronger without Kyuubi's help. Yamato said so and I can't wait to see him fight without activating any red chakra. As for Naruto's personal growth, he has grown quite a bit and remember that his ultimate weapon is when people underestimate his skill and what's a better way to do it than to act like a complete moron. :heh:
Missilebuster
2006-05-31, 21:24
people, the series even makes fun of itself on this issue: Sasuke - "Naruto your the kinda guy who would never be the main character in a story." But seriously he has to have someone to kick him into shape soon, yu yu hakusho style. I cant stand how he is being pwned like a noob with no new techniques. (i dont care if he uses them in innovative ways he needs new shit, and lots of it)
Luminion Lancer
2006-05-31, 21:36
Naruto is stronger without Kyuubi's help. Yamato said so and I can't wait to see him fight without activating any red chakra.
-Stronger? I'm sorry I must have misssed my stop at FANTASY LAND. I mean no disrespect to your statement (I know that it was not you who mentioned this first, it was Yamato). By all means how can he be stronger without it. If he doesn't use it lets see what does he have going for him? I'll tell you, nothing. Sure he can pull off an attack or two but with no enhancements those attacks will get wasted. However if he uses the Kyuubi's chakra wisely (<-keyword here) then he is quite the force to be reckoned with. He gets an increase in power, speed, defence (the red chakra shroud while it damages him from the inside it protects him fro outside harm), regenerates like mad (think Wolverine) and a near infinate chakra capacity. Now I won't disagree that overusing this power isn't without negative side effects but it is better to use it in limited proportions than never at all.
Does anyone realize that naruto is a shonen manga?
the usual chemistry applies to this situation aswell:
The bad guy is seen as unbeatable, as susgay is now. Although then the goodie finds a new power within himself, in this case naruto's own power without using the demon and will atleast match susgay.
So my advice is just chill for a chapter or 2, then youll see that naruto did actually learn something and that susgay aint the "OMFGPWNR" you all seem to think he is, he just caught them off guard is all.
Naruto is not stronger without kyuubi's powers, that is crazy talk, Naruto needs Kyuubi's power to do anything right...., how many times Kyuubi saved Naruto's butt? and if isn't for him he would have lost terrible to anyone that over powers him, Naruto without Kyuubi's power is like a Kiba Level, which is not that strong. He will lose to Shiki, Hinita, Sakura rock and etc....no offense Naruto is my homey, but he has to show me something. Im kinda of tired of him only coming through clutch...and he need some new moves, not repetitive moves.
1. get punched a few times
2. Kage Bunshin
3. Mass Kage Bunshin
4. Rasengan...
5. and life and death situation, he uses Kyuubi powers!!!!
and this the order of Naruto's fighting style....
this totally makes me very upset, seeing him use this move over and over and over, the author deserves a slap....
I agree with the legend that the CURRENT naruto is pissing me off! yeah he's a bit more clever with his bushins, and yea he doesn't get caught by suprise at every little thing anymore, and yea he's still good at surprising people, but all that crap doesn't say 'I trained for 2.5 years with someone who's about as strong as orochimaru'! I mean now that he's older he should be able to release that much kybi chakra by default cuz the 'container' itself grew(naruto).
*sigh* anyway what I would like to see:
Naruto upping his game tai, and ninjutsu wise. Common whip out the mini frogs for a new combo atleast! we already know that even the frogs(medium) are as strong as jounins!
What I wouldn't like to see:
1."that jutsu" just being the kyuubi. THat would be the lamest thing in any manga (well almost)
2.Naruto wallowing in self pitty after this defeat (he didn't really do it last time so why start now)
3.Naruto going on ANOTHER training tangent. He already trained for 2.5 years with the best. If that doesn't help then there's no way he should be able to get better with just a month or 2.
Missilebuster
2006-06-01, 23:00
lol, the fillers are fitting, they show how little naruto trained during those three years thus explaining his current crappy as hell jutsu's
lol, the fillers are fitting, they show how little naruto trained during those three years thus explaining his current crappy as hell jutsu's
Good observation. I never thought of it that way. I guess these are not really fillers after all. They have a purpose. Must download the them now. LOL. :heh:
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