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Angela Sanctisstessa
2006-05-29, 05:48
...wow...this week's air time is early for tvk according to omni @.@
Omniscient
2006-05-29, 20:22
Episode 09 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/05/29/utawarerumono-09/)
Yup, episode nine aired first on a tvk this week instead of Chiba TV.
Another war starts up this week, against the country with supposedly ten times more military power. Hakuoro and friends manage to get through it alright with the help of some explosives. And Eruru worries through most of the episode, and ends up giving Hakuoro an impassioned speech about the meaning of family. Overall it's a good battle-heavy episode.
Onizuka-GTO
2006-05-29, 21:08
Breast size yay! :)
that was some strategy...using benaui and kurou to distract the main force and hakuoro's force to infiltrate and destroy the enemy's supplies. i guess the old man was slightly impress at his strategic might. btw, ep. 10 will reveal a new character.
will it be the big sword weilding girl or the trenchcoat samurai?
i think it's the big sword wielding girl - what's her name....karla? (sp?)
Xellos-_^
2006-05-29, 21:41
will it be the big sword weilding girl or the trenchcoat samurai?
it is the big boobs girls...er imean the big sword girl :D
same thing either way. haha.
the sub should be out like... end of the week right? for this episode 9 right?
I really hope they will sub it fast enough...Can't wait for the next episode.
agreed. yesy and static-subs seems to like taking their time.
ccardoso
2006-05-29, 23:03
agreed. yesy and static-subs seems to like taking their time.
Sub it yourself and leave us in awe for your speed... :D
Sub it yourself and leave us in awe for your speed... :D
lol wish i can though :) but i just need to be patient and wait. okay this sub discussion is close. let's get back to discussing ep. 9. what's the enemy's name anyway?
Niueh or Niveh, something like that.
Judging by the blog and game summaries, this might be the last time we see this guy for a long time.
There's another enemy country after this, during which Touka gets introduced, iirc.
so does that mean that touka is a member of some other country before she joined to hakuoro's side?
so does that mean that touka is a member of some other country before she joined to hakuoro's side?
Hmm... more like:
Touka is a member of a tribe reknowned for fighting/sword skills, and she is assisting the ruler of a different country, one that happens to come into conflict with Tusukuru.
I was pleasantly amused by the anime script writers putting both Eruruw and Aruruw on Mukkur. It would be nice to see them in battle some more. Maybe Eruruw could be the most terrifying warrior of all, as moonphase had speculated. Someone who can stare down Mukkur is someone to be feared. XD
Takemi_Ikazuchi
2006-05-30, 02:32
you know, putting Eruru on Mukkuru is great idea.... I WISH I COULD DO THIS IN THE GAME
you see, Eruru is a great healer, but she can't tank.. AT ALL... and every darn enemy unit rushes her and killing her in 3 seconds. This happens so often that I call her Eruru the suicide healer.
putting her on Mukkuru would have solved this problem
but anyway, Karura is next. I'd say she's one of the strongest, if not, the strongest ally Hakuoro can have.
Touka (would be)fans. Wait a little longer :p
Daniel E.
2006-05-30, 02:49
it is the big boobs girls...er imean the big sword girl :D
Yay, they just keep getting bigger and bigger... er I mean, the show keeps getting better and better. :heh: :heh:
Seriously though, this new character can't come fast enough. :)
Angela Sanctisstessa
2006-05-30, 07:14
~.~ next epi is Mercenary.. so i guess Karura will make her appearance as one?
anyway...hakuoro is whicked sick...who would even thought of that move in a battle, XD
Xellos-_^
2006-05-30, 13:18
agreed. yesy and static-subs seems to like taking their time.
Kinda suprising since yesy started as speed sub group for Mai-Hime. I guess the group got better and slower.
you know, putting Eruru on Mukkuru is great idea.... I WISH I COULD DO THIS IN THE GAME
you see, Eruru is a great healer, but she can't tank.. AT ALL... and every darn enemy unit rushes her and killing her in 3 seconds. This happens so often that I call her Eruru the suicide healer.
putting her on Mukkuru would have solved this problem
but anyway, Karura is next. I'd say she's one of the strongest, if not, the strongest ally Hakuoro can have.
Touka (would be)fans. Wait a little longer :p
aghhh i dont want to wait T_T
aghhh i dont want to wait T_T
well, whether we like it or not, we have to wait ;) we have to endure a couple of episodes before seeing touka on screen :)
Ahaaha, love that little bit (that I could understand) when Hakuoro finally gives in and explains (he's wise to do a 'need to know' basis) what the Strategy is.
Hakuoro: What's the most important thing for a soldier?
Aruruu: Food
Hakuoro: Exactly.
Interesting way of achieving a delayed detonation with chemical explosives. This world's alternate war technology is intriguing.
As for letting the enemy take one of their own empty forts... reminds me of that battle in Romance of Three Kingdoms where said empty fort was then turned into an inferno that trapped a 100k army in (and then the rain came, as predicted, which led to using Flood tactics immediately afterwards). Yes, good strategy of Empty Fort (Oboro would also be intimate with the layout of that fort, allowing for easier infiltration and sabotage). Somewhat expensive, but better to wreck objects than spill excess blood I guess.
Srin Tuar
2006-05-31, 18:44
Wow, this show keeps getting better and better.
I absolutely love Hakuoro as the leader.
Is is calm, intelligent, forward thinking, and NOT Superman.
He does not have to defeat every enemy in one on one combat to progress the storyline at all.
This has turned into the best show on air right now, imo.
mikemil828
2006-05-31, 22:50
Somewhat expensive, but better to wreck objects than spill excess blood I guess.
Considering that they promptly slaughtered the fort's remaining defenders, they probably didn't do it to prevent spillage of blood, but rather to destroy the enemy's ability to fight, without supplies they will have make a hasty retreat home and wait to get resupplied, which is really the only way that Hakuoro could fight a much larger force at this point.
Thelastguardian
2006-06-01, 00:09
hakuoro is whicked sick...who would even thought of that move in a battle, XD
Tell the US army about it (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/25/1048354605380.html)
Or tell it to Sun Tzu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu), who wrote The Art of War 2600 years ago.
Chapter Twelve: Fire Attacks (http://www.sonshi.com/sun12.html)
There are five kinds of fire attacks:
One, burning personnel;
two, burning provisions;
three, burning equipment;
four, burning stores;
five, burning weapons.
Using fire attacks depends on proper conditions.
Equipment for fire attacks must be available beforehand.
There are appropriate seasons for using fire attacks, and appropriate days for raising fires.
The appropriate season is when the weather is dry;
the appropriate day is when the moon is at Chi, Pi, I, or Chen.
These four days are when there are rising winds.
Generally, in fire attacks, you must respond according to the five changes of fire:
If the fires are set inside enemy camp, you must respond quickly outside the enemy camp;
if the fires are set but the enemy is calm, then wait, do not attack.
Let the fire reach its height, and follow up if you can, stay if you cannot;
If the fire attack can be set outside, without relying on the inside, set it when the time is right.
If the fire is set upwind, do not attack downwind.
If it is windy all during the day, the wind will stop at night.
The army must know the five changes of fire, to be able to calculate the appropriate days.
Hitting enemy's logistics is the very basic of fighting an invading army. You cut off their food supply, and they'll crawl back one way or the other. Actually, putting that into practice, however, is more difficult. I also think Hakuoro was brilliant in inviting the enemy to use one of his forts as staging point for their logistics line and burn it all down. It's a pretty bold plan.
Onizuka-GTO
2006-06-01, 06:45
This has turned into the best show on air right now, imo.
You mean one of the best... :rolleyes:
But granted, Hakuoro really did a god job here. ;)
bento-cube
2006-06-01, 07:15
I'd say pure genius. Fool the enemy commander into believing that you're weak and cowardly. As Sun Tzu would say: Flee like the rabbit, but attack like a tiger.
Considering that they promptly slaughtered the fort's remaining defenders, they probably didn't do it to prevent spillage of blood, but rather to destroy the enemy's ability to fight, without supplies they will have make a hasty retreat home and wait to get resupplied, which is really the only way that Hakuoro could fight a much larger force at this point.
Reminder of my motto: "Information warfare > Logistics warfare > Tactical warfare"
Hmm, I guess it would be impossible to hit at the Logistics level no matter how many of their own soldiers they sacrificed, considering positioning and superior enemy numbers. They did need a second fort to pin down that large force afterall. Still, my point was that it's better for Hakuoro's price to be an inanimate fort rather than a large portion of his army to pull off this attack - reputation-wise that'll go down better.
For those interested in know, i added at the Game Chat session the Game summary covering Episode 09. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=577442&postcount=27) Give a try, if you want. :D
Toonleap
2006-06-02, 12:58
There will be no broadcast for this show for two weeks due to the transmission of the World Cup…so the next transmission will be in June 18th and there will be a two episode broadcast.
Source: http://www.utaware.net/
May 28th (day) 26:15 - 27:15
Broadcast of episode 8 “The Arbitrator”, and the 9th episode, “taboo”
June 4th (day) broadcast pause
June 11th (day) broadcast pause
June 18th (day) 26:15 - 27:15
10th story “傭 soldier”, continuing 2 of 11th story, “eternal promise”
It will be a long hiatus…
Nnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! !!!!!
Daniel E.
2006-06-02, 13:26
There will be no broadcast for this show for two weeks due to the transmission of the World Cup…so the next transmission will be in June 18th and there will be a two episode broadcast.
This sucks. :(
I wonder how many shows will end up being affected by this?.
There will be no broadcast for this show for two weeks due to the transmission of the World Cup…so the next transmission will be in June 18th and there will be a two episode broadcast.
Source: http://www.utaware.net/
May 28th (day) 26:15 - 27:15
Broadcast of episode 8 “The Arbitrator”, and the 9th episode, “taboo”
June 4th (day) broadcast pause
June 11th (day) broadcast pause
June 18th (day) 26:15 - 27:15
10th story “傭 soldier”, continuing 2 of 11th story, “eternal promise”
It will be a long hiatus…
No way! damn the World Cup :frustrated:
Toonleap
2006-06-02, 14:09
There will be no broadcast for this show for two weeks due to the transmission of the World Cup…so the next transmission will be in June 18th and there will be a two episode broadcast.
Source: http://www.utaware.net/
May 28th (day) 26:15 - 27:15
Broadcast of episode 8 “The Arbitrator”, and the 9th episode, “taboo”
June 4th (day) broadcast pause
June 11th (day) broadcast pause
June 18th (day) 26:15 - 27:15
10th story “傭 soldier”, continuing 2 of 11th story, “eternal promise”
It will be a long hiatus…
gomenasai, I got updated news from this...after all, there will be utaware eps
Take note that that only applies to tvk. Omni originally had a long note explaining why tvk aired this episode nine earlier than the other channels, but that became unnecessary once the other channels caught up.
In other words, Utawarerumono will continue airing on its normal schedule (Monday late night) on the channels it normally airs first on (Chiba TV and asahi tv). So, expect episode 10 next Monday. (random curiosity)
gomenasai, I got updated news from this...after all, there will be utaware eps
Take note that that only applies to tvk. Omni originally had a long note explaining why tvk aired this episode nine earlier than the other channels, but that became unnecessary once the other channels caught up.
In other words, Utawarerumono will continue airing on its normal schedule (Monday late night) on the channels it normally airs first on (Chiba TV and asahi tv). So, expect episode 10 next Monday. (random curiosity)
Well, I guess there's still hope :)
No way! damn the World Cup :frustrated:
As much as I love anime, World cup comes first. It only happens once in 4 years. The hell with super bowl (flame me), the hell with the olympics.
Omniscient
2006-06-02, 15:40
So, to reiterate in case anyone is still confused,
Utawarerumono will be airing next week, right on schedule for Chiba-TV and the other channels, just not on tvk.
However, I'm sure the World Cup may be interfering with some series..... that said, whee for World Cup (about the only sport I can stand to watch anymore...).
So, to reiterate in case anyone is still confused,
Utawarerumono will be airing next week, right on schedule for Chiba-TV and the other channels, just not on tvk.
Ah, so it will be airing normally?
*takes gun away from temple*
Oh.. got me scared there for a little bit.. :p
Altough my entire country is football fanatic, specialy since we are taking part in it.., I am not..
Hence... I would be realy dissapointed (to say the least) if they had taken Uta-mono off because of the World Cup..
So.. much like Shivona wrotte :
*takes the gun away*
Onizuka-GTO
2006-06-02, 20:51
yay! football! highlight of this decade for me! not only will i have to adjust from being a financial blackhole for my family (a.k.a a undergrad) to a "professional" I can now afford to travel to watch the footy! yay! not that I'am...rather sit in the comfort of my home, drink cold beer, and watch Utawarerumono inbetween the HDTV matches.
:p
Is it just me or has the official site's character section been left as it was since the beginning?
just finished watching episode 9. lol, those enemies are pretty cocky. they didn't even think what will happen. another point for hakuoro's genius mind
KaneDragon
2006-06-04, 20:50
Evidently the new emperor hangs out at supply depots and uses fire as a teleportation medium. Okay... And he's not too shabby a fighter, either, though he doesn't match the badassery of a metal fan. I was kinda hoping Hakuoro would just shove his metal fan though that guy's throat, too, so it would all be like, "Well that was easy." Oh well.
And now we have three annoying officer-class villains. Bah. And Samurai Leader guy was about to kick their asses, too. =/
yesy's sub for ep9 is out.
I have a question that I've been wondering about for a while. How good is their translation anyway? How does it compare to SS's?
KBTKaiser
2006-06-04, 23:39
Okay... And he's not too shabby a fighter, either, though he doesn't match the badassery of a metal fan. I was kinda hoping Hakuoro would just shove his metal fan though that guy's throat, too, so it would all be like, "Well that was easy." Oh well.
It'll be anything but easy against Niue... >>;
That and we'll have a graphicsfest when the time comes to it, I think. >>;
thundrakkon
2006-06-05, 00:45
Shinova, both groups have excellent subs. It is a matter of preference. My preference after reviewing both for this series is a slight edge for the quicker group, who also phrases expressions in a way I prefer.
Hakuoro has the knowledge to create explosives in which most everyone else does not know how except for Eruruu? He must have been a war god or something before waking up in that village.
As for Aruruu going into battle with Mukuru, that is just asking for disaster. I wonder if Hakuoro/Benawi/Oboro will teach her how to defend herself in battle, at least?
I wonder how much longer I have to feel sorry for Eruruu? I mean every episode, she has that sad expression, as if she is losing the man she loves, and more competition keeps coming.
Emperor Yue seems more insane than scary, so far. It would be nice for Hakuoro to conquer a few more countries to match the size of Shikerepetim before battling them. Although, I think this guy is still not the biggest bad guy there is yet, judging from the intro. In the end of the series, it will probably be the two biggest empires battling it out for unification.
Anybody else get a little audio error around 6:30 of yesy's ep9?
thundrakkon
2006-06-05, 01:22
Anybody else get a little audio error around 6:30 of yesy's ep9?
I did not encounter any audio problems. You may have a bad version, need to update audio drivers, or missing updated codecs.
Whooops.
First, episode 8 instead of 9. :p
Second, suddenly the problem is gone.
And now we have three annoying officer-class villains. Bah. And Samurai Leader guy was about to kick their asses, too. =/
the three stoogies :heh: they can't even beat the kurou/benawi duo. and there's three of them. what's more, most of their forces were killed before they even set foot inside. quite pathetic indeed :)
the three stoogies :heh: they can't even beat the kurou/benawi duo. and there's three of them. what's more, most of their forces were killed before they even set foot inside. quite pathetic indeed :)
Well it couldn't be helped. Benawi and Kurou are just that badass. :p
It's like an army-wide aura of Badassery. :)
Angela Sanctisstessa
2006-06-05, 03:50
...not just 3 on 2 they were having problems, even ganking Kuoru 3 on 1 they could only afford a scratch to the face.
GO GO Benaui's Badassery
As for Aruruu going into battle with Mukuru, that is just asking for disaster. I wonder if Hakuoro/Benawi/Oboro will teach her how to defend herself in battle, at least?
You do have to remember that Mukkur inherited Mutikapa's attributes. Thus, Mukkur is fast, agile, smart and powerful (outside of wet situations, when her fur would no longer shield against enemy attack). Aruruw's basically got a highly mobile tank under her reins. That's not to say that Aruruw would be invincible, but she's definitely not going to lose against any old soldier/general.
Oh, and in the game...
Eruruw was generally always usable as your healer character, and Aruruw, once she is introduced in the "Daughter of the Forest" battle, will always be available for battle assuming her character is present. Aruruw+Mukkur also has one of the highest physical defense ratings as well. Now Eruruw+Aruruw+Mukkur as the anime has it... would be like unstoppable. XD
Sorrow-K
2006-06-05, 07:15
Utawarerumono has been great so far, but, let's face it, it doesn't hold a candle to the World Cup.
Anyway, there's something about this, something I can't quite put my finger on that makes this such an intriguing show. I think it's the sum of a lot of little things. The characters are very complex, particularly Hakuoro (obviously), but as well Eruruu, who I made the big mistake early of dismissing as another pining cliched female lead. There's something that I can only describe as "enigmatic" about her that makes her interesting to watch. I thought she showed a certain strength by the way that she refused to turn her head to the sins (I hate that word) that she knows Hakuoro has no choice but to commit. I also thought Hakuoro showed an interesting side to his character when he didn't try to hide his actions from her in the final part of the episode. There's an honesty between the two of them that makes them very engaging characters.
There's also a lot of tension about the battles. A lot of it's the fact that the soldiers of Tusukuru are very much underdogs, and, c'mon, who doesn't like an underdog? But the battle scenes do a fairly good job of showing the state of the overall situation and the way Hakuoro tactically thinks his way to victory makes him an even more respectable character.... even if his methods can be accused of being cheap (but, then again, one does what one must to win).
The big flaw in this series still remains the same for me: the enemies are so flat. Yue is exactly like the last guy, except that he can actually fight. He may develop later on, but given the way he was presented in this episode, I'd be very surprised. I just can't see him as any more than an excuse for a conflict.
But, overall, very good episode. The tension was great, and this series continues to surprise me. It's funny how the series with the lesser expectations tend to be the ones that deliver more.
bento-cube
2006-06-05, 07:42
Oh, and in the game...
Eruruw was generally always usable as your healer character, and Aruruw, once she is introduced in the "Daughter of the Forest" battle, will always be available for battle assuming her character is present. Aruruw+Mukkur also has one of the highest physical defense ratings as well. Now Eruruw+Aruruw+Mukkur as the anime has it... would be like unstoppable. XD
God knows I always liked that combination. Nothing like having a 99 def tank and a medic behind it.
Great ep, but that whole Yue appearing out of nowhere, trading a few blows with Hakuoro, and then disappearing into nowhere while everyone is like O.o kinda spoiled the episode's "realism", so to speak.
kari-no-sugata
2006-06-05, 08:21
The big flaw in this series still remains the same for me: the enemies are so flat. Yue is exactly like the last guy, except that he can actually fight. He may develop later on, but given the way he was presented in this episode, I'd be very surprised. I just can't see him as any more than an excuse for a conflict.
Exactly like the last guy!? Not only can he fight, he LIKES to fight obviously. He wants to have fun with Hakuoro - he anticipated things to some extent. The guy has a brain. He also has real presence. He's only had about 2 minutes of screen time.
PS I don't know what'll be happening with this guy going forwards. That's just my impression from this ep.
Onizuka-GTO
2006-06-05, 10:15
mate, please don't talk about "realism", when everyone has a tail and furry ears. :rolleyes:
Angela Sanctisstessa
2006-06-05, 10:32
not to mention a big cat of doom whose skin is almost...>.> unpenetratable *tries blasting it with a panzershreck*
they should just have the big cat eat up all the enemies XD yum yum
thundrakkon
2006-06-05, 12:15
Aruruw's basically got a highly mobile tank under her reins. That's not to say that Aruruw would be invincible, but she's definitely not going to lose against any old soldier/general.
Still, though, Aruruu is only on top of Mukuru. Mukuru might be invincible, but not Aruruu. If archers or a fire occurs, Aruruu might be in trouble being on top and exposed, with no fighting skills. I wish someone would teach her, so she can defend herself, instead of completely rely on Mukuru.
Still, though, Aruruu is only on top of Mukuru. Mukuru might be invincible, but not Aruruu. If archers or a fire occurs, Aruruu might be in trouble being on top and exposed, with no fighting skills. I wish someone would teach her, so she can defend herself, instead of completely rely on Mukuru.
I think it might be more like Mukuru is mearly handicapped in battle due to Aruruu's presence.
Heh. In D&D you can use your mount as a shield basically. You can also negate hits to your mount with your Ride skill. This leads to the "horse ninja trick" where you redirect attacks to your mount and then negate them. I imagine Aruruu having that skill. :p
Not a bad episode.. Karura nexted! <3
RunningTARGET
2006-06-05, 19:17
Who here thinks of Eruru and Aruru as a weakness in batle for Hakuoro? If the enemy knew about it, it doesnt boude well for Hakuoro. I'm hoping nothing bad happens to them. :(
Daniel E.
2006-06-05, 19:44
I wonder how many soldiers Hakuoro has at his command?
Well.., another good episode in my eyes; there realy isn't many negative aspects to it since it clearly continues with the good pacing of the previous ones.
Again, introducing to us a new antagonist and more good development on behalf of the main characters.
This episodes focused more on Hakuoro's war skills, and clearly when we come to the end of it.., it realy shows us that there is clearly something superior about him.., its as if he was born to command and devise tactics; for apart having no memories of his past.., all of this just seems so natural to him..
But never the less, what was more important in this episode was to me, the parts which involved Eruruu..
Again in the first parts we see her sad and alone as Hakuoro still is un-aware of her feelings towards him and is more and more beeing focused on the war.
And when he even dares to use the mixture to create the explosion, its Eruruu who tries and disuade him.., but to no avail..
Still.., I belive this triggered something in her at that moment.., she probably realised that there was no stopping Hakuoro so, she decided to go along with him, as in to see what where the reasons why he beeing so "swallowed" by this phenomenon..
To know what war was truly about.. and all its implications.
Thus I belive we will be seeing Aru-chan and Eruruu in the battlefields more often in the next episodes..
In the end we also had the chance to see small parts in development of Benawi aswell, for as in, at this moment he acts as the 2nd in Command to Hakuoro; altough it was already mencioned in the previous episode.., during this one we realy see that Benawi takes a huge responasibilty in the war.
As for the rest.., the battle scenes where pretty much aswell delivered to us in the way which the previous ones where..; way this which somehow is always makes us feel alot of tension and realy anticipation towards the outcome.
If the following ones continue to be as such, I'm pretty sure we can expect more great battles on Uta-mono :)
Now regarding the new antagonist :
The big flaw in this series still remains the same for me: the enemies are so flat. Yue is exactly like the last guy, except that he can actually fight. He may develop later on, but given the way he was presented in this episode, I'd be very surprised. I just can't see him as any more than an excuse for a conflict.
I have to dissagree on this.., clearly Yue is NOTHING like Inkara.., personality-wise or even battle-wise..
Yue clearly was intrigued by Hakuoro when his scouts told him the report in which they refered to Hakuoro as dumb, etc for having recieved them with such curtesy.., Yue immediatly saw ahead of this and thought to himself regarding Hakuoro.., there is more then meets the eye to this person.
Also, much like kari-no-sugata previously said.., he definitly has a Presence, his appearence towards Hakuoro in the end was realy great to watch..
Yue is that kind of character that likes to fight a worthy oponent I belive.., also taking from his old age, he clearly has been arround to know a few things, so needless to say.., he definitly has a manipulative mind aswell.
I am looking forward for more development on him.., I realy liked his character look aswell, that ojiisan-look is great for villans :)
In the end the conclusion we can take from this episode is that..., this is just the begining of another step in Hakuoro's path.., clearly he will eventualy defeat Yue and take hold of his lands.. thus expanding his country.. to witch..
Sooner or later someone More powerfull will enter the picture..
Someone mencioned previously that the outcome of this could be the two major country's batteling for a unification.., things might change a bit during the course of the story.., but clearly in the end there the possibility of all of this we will see some sort of unification regarding all the lands.., thus putting an end to war.
Now for the next episode : Karuka !! I have a feeling she will be a amazing character :)
In the end the conclusion we can take from this episode is that..., this is just the begining of another step in Hakuoro's path.., clearly he will eventualy defeat Yue and take hold of his lands.. thus expanding his country.. to witch..
Sooner or later someone More powerfull will enter the picture..
Perhaps,.. but with against an army of ten times stronger, and enemy lands three times larger, an tough path to walk it will. ...not for Hakuoro alone, but for his people as well. Best of all, from this episode, it appears that Eruruu and Aruruu will help Hakuoro through this path.
You do have to remember that Mukkur inherited Mutikapa's attributes. Thus, Mukkur is fast, agile, smart and powerful (outside of wet situations, when her fur would no longer shield against enemy attack). Aruruw's basically got a highly mobile tank under her reins. That's not to say that Aruruw would be invincible, but she's definitely not going to lose against any old soldier/general.
Take that big breasted character within the next episode preview for example. Should she ever do join up as an fighter for Hakuoro, I would like like to see her riding around on Mukuru while tearing shit up with her sword,.. but... it's just that,.. with such power between her legs,.. should it make her happy, then it's all over. ...for Mukuru that is. So sad. ...not that I wouldn't want to see that that is.
Still, though, Aruruu is only on top of Mukuru. Mukuru might be invincible, but not Aruruu. If archers or a fire occurs, Aruruu might be in trouble being on top and exposed, with no fighting skills. I wish someone would teach her, so she can defend herself, instead of completely rely on Mukuru.
But Mukkur is also not a dumb animal. I'm sure Mukkur can sense when Aruruw is in danger and get out of there really quickly. I'm not saying that Mukkur+Aruruw can take on a whole army, but they should be able to do fine in battle.
The big flaw in this series still remains the same for me: the enemies are so flat. Yue is exactly like the last guy, except that he can actually fight. He may develop later on, but given the way he was presented in this episode, I'd be very surprised. I just can't see him as any more than an excuse for a conflict.
Better, non-flat "bosses" will come (like for instance in episode 11). Trying to draw conclusive conclusions about someone's personality when they've only appeared for like a few minutes is generally not a good idea. Furthermore, Niwe is not exactly like the last guy. Notice how he takes fighting to be almost a perverted pleasure? Notice the title that everyone addresses him by? Notice how he wants people to entertain him by fighting with him? Notice how, while the entire scene is ablaze, his only concerns were to fight Hakuoro with that maniacal glea of his? The way the words flow out of his mouth signifies that something isn't quite right up there...
Sinestra
2006-06-06, 18:52
i liked this one i understand why Hakuoro wanted to hide the horrors of war from Aruruu and Eruruu. They are his family and you can spare your family that kind of thing you would do it. however i do understand where the sisters are coming from you depend on your family in hard times. I think Eruruu would be a good addition to the council she seems level minded and can advise on whats b3st for the people. I think its better for them to be involved then to keep them in dark and Hakuoro becoming more distant from them.
I noticed some talked about weather Aruruu should be in battle with Mukuru i dont think its a great idea it would be very easy for her to get picked off by an arrow or if she fell of in the middle of battle. Leaving Mukuru as a bodyguard would be more suitable i couldnt think of a better bodyguard for her.
As for the taboo potion that was used its obvious it was an explosive compound and im sure everyone can understand why it was taboo. Hakuoro used a brilliant yet old tatic to win destroying the enemies supply line is a great way to get an enemy to withdraw that is one of the set backs to having a large army you have to feed them all. The question is this, Even though its taboo does the need to win the battle outway the need to keep some weapons from being used (did he make the right choice?) you can compare this to the U.S dropping the Atom bomb on Japan propelling us into the Atomic age.
Also i dont remember his name but the king of the nation that invaded im glad he isnt a some pussy ass kind he can really fight im looking forward to the rematch.
well its not the same thing as the united states dropping the atomic bomb on japan. in utaware, hakuoro blew up his own land which had previously been vacated of the people that were there, excluding the soldiers. the united states dropped it in 2 major cities in japan, where there were plenty of civilians.
I apologize for my late response to this review.
The CGI was not that breathtaking, particularly went downhill to animate the march of the thousand soldiers gathering.
Animation at least was average and the colors did not blend with the mood of the scenery and changes in the environment.
I simply cannot believe that Oboro went down with a sissy strike from that emperor of Shurikempechi. Yue's a pimp, sorry to say it but I have to.:twitch:
Those blows should have meant nothing to Hakuoro, but Yue manages to shake him up a little bit, anyway.
It really confused me what Yue gets out of attempting to invade Tusukuru without reasons except that views the people as inferior worms that have to be subjugated. The old man is out for bloodlust fighting, that's all at least that's how I see things from my side.
Poor Eruruu!:upset: She was downgraded from public notary to the secretary that serves the drinks while Hakuoro and his officials are discussing matters of state, and yet he even does not notices her, save for saying thanks.
She felt herself very useless.
Hakuoro for this episode, in particular, was more withdrawn into politics and matters of state to deal with the potential threat of Shurikempechi's invasion. He was mostly prone to help the people's tribulations without asking and spending virtually no time for Eruruu and Aruruu.
I simply cannot believe that Oboro went down with a sissy strike from that emperor of Shurikempechi. Yue's a pimp, sorry to say it but I have to.:twitch:
Remember what happened between Benawi and Oboro earlier on? This shows that Niwe is not someone to be trifled with.
bento-cube
2006-06-07, 06:29
An idiotic notion just popped into my head: To be a 'Boss class' character, you first have to knock Oboro in 1 blow...
Idiotic, I know.
An idiotic notion just popped into my head: To be a 'Boss class' character, you first have to knock Oboro in 1 blow...
Idiotic, I know.
Not so much idiotic as elliciting a, "Poor Oboro"
Or reminds me of something that was cut from the game, where Yuzuha tries to come up with a nickname for her brother and gets, "Boro-Boro" :heh:
Angela Sanctisstessa
2006-06-07, 21:57
XD hey that's already taken by Horo-horo of Shaman King, Oboro= BOBORO*courtes y of Kamyu*
I like when Eruruu "confronted" Hakuoro.. I understood what she meant of wanting the family to share their pains and joys, and not keeping what he was going to do from them. This anime is moving bit by little bit. Tho I was really truly honestly expecting her to say something like: because I love you. Which kinda got me :frustrated:
About that CGI, looks like it backfired in this episode. :( Pyro effects at the end were nice tho. Anyhow sorry for the late post :)
RunningTARGET
2006-06-08, 22:21
But Mukkur is also not a dumb animal. I'm sure Mukkur can sense when Aruruw is in danger and get out of there really quickly. I'm not saying that Mukkur+Aruruw can take on a whole army, but they should be able to do fine in battle.
Oh Mukuru is indeed smart.
When water strikes and there is no protection use whats near to you.
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and comes prepared next time in battle.
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err!
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As for Mukuru and Aruru in battle though, i'm not sure on that one.
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:heh:
Haha, those were great. What are they from? Some random doujinshi?
Zappster
2006-06-09, 03:59
Yeah, anymore where that came from?
Sinestra
2006-06-09, 09:33
An idiotic notion just popped into my head: To be a 'Boss class' character, you first have to knock Oboro in 1 blow...
Idiotic, I know.
I guess that means anyone can be a bad ass cause as iv seen so far Oboro seems to knock down in one blow a lot
Furudanuki
2006-06-09, 10:38
I guess that means anyone can be a bad ass cause as iv seen so far Oboro seems to knock down in one blow a lot
I think that what is happening here with Oboro is the same thing that happened with Worf on the first few seasons of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Worf the Klingon was supposed to be a real badass fighter. So, the way the alien-threat-of-the-week could prove that THEY were an even BIGGER badass was to beat up Worf. As a result, Worf got the crap beat out of him on a regular basis. So, instead of looking like a good fighter, Worf came across as a poser who caved in every time someone hit him.
I think that what is happening here with Oboro is the same thing that happened with Worf on the first few seasons of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Worf the Klingon was supposed to be a real badass fighter. So, the way the alien-threat-of-the-week could prove that THEY were an even BIGGER badass was to beat up Worf. As a result, Worf got the crap beat out of him on a regular basis. So, instead of looking like a good fighter, Worf came across as a poser who caved in every time someone hit him.
Unfortunately for poor Oboro, he's used to wipe the floor in both battles and the drama in between them. After getting a cool introduction, he slowly sunk to the role of a sister-con joke character. Okay, it wasn't even that slow. But good thing he has 「某としたことがっ！」 to keep him company.
RunningTARGET
2006-06-11, 16:31
Haha, those were great. What are they from? Some random doujinshi?
Yes I got them off from here.
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I'm gathering some doujin, i'll properbly upload them some where when I have a small collection.
how the hell did yue escape from the castle on fire surrounded by hakuoro's forces and with half or more of his army fighting elsewhere and beeing obviously stopped by benawi and kurou ??
What 's the point of this strategy of burning his own land if he doesnt annihilate the other army because it seems they just run away ...
Considering Niwe's battle prowess, it's not likely that some random group of soldiers would've been able to stop him anyway. As for annihilating the Sikeripecimu army, I doubt Hakuoro is cold blooded enough to command his troops to capture/kill everyone on the other side. He's pretty much won, having destroyed their source of supplies and forcing them off his land.
If Hakuoro was smart, he would capitalize on his victory, chase down that army and route them. Or else it's a simple matter for them to retreat back home, get more supplies and invade again.
Xellos-_^
2006-06-12, 19:29
Considering Niwe's battle prowess, it's not likely that some random group of soldiers would've been able to stop him anyway. As for annihilating the Sikeripecimu army, I doubt Hakuoro is cold blooded enough to command his troops to capture/kill everyone on the other side. He's pretty much won, having destroyed their source of supplies and forcing them off his land.
The stupid thing to do would be to let the other side get away. Every military doctorine calls for Hakuoro to advantage of the fire and kill as many of the enemy soldier as he can. More enemy he kills here means less soldiers he will have to face later when Niwe invades again.
no matter how skilled he is , he was supposed to be trapped behind ennemy lines without supplies , well hakuoro sure is mercifull let's hope he won't have to regret this.
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