The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 27 Discussion / Poll [2006 TV ep. 11]

[xris]

Welcome to the discussion thread for Suzumiya Haruhi (also know as The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya).

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Sorry, no interesting trivia, gifs or graphs this week, I hope that Catgirls will notice and edit this first post and add something.

[panzerfan]

The Day of Sagittarius can be compared on Baka-Tsuki's translation credited to our own Kinny Riddle. I am dying in anticipation for this episode right now...
anyway, anyone actually played games with macro? The only one that I've ever bothered w. is Lineage II the Korean MMORPG and that was a while ago.

[Prodigious]

WoW is unplayable in the endgame without macros.

I can't wait for this episode!!!!

[iamandragon]

*growls*
Will watch raw...asap...(the only anime that managed to make me watch a raw...)

[M.D. Geist]

*growls*
Will watch raw...asap...(the only anime that managed to make me watch a raw...)

If my japanese would be good enough id do the same too ... however, watching haruhi and only understanding ~10% sucks ^^

Btw. this is the farest ep so far right? (concerning timeline)

[Deathkillz]

If my japanese would be good enough id do the same too ... however, watching haruhi and only understanding ~10% sucks ^^

Btw. this is the farest ep so far right? (concerning timeline)

i thought eps 9 (14) is the farest...timeline wise :confused:

[iamandragon]

If my japanese would be good enough id do the same too ... however, watching haruhi and only understanding ~10% sucks ^^

Btw. this is the farest ep so far right? (concerning timeline)

I don't understand Japanese much as well...My Japanese is self-taught, and I've only been practicing for 4 months(app. when I started watching anime...)

This is not the farest episode...episode 9 is. You can see that there're already labtops piled at one side in the club room in episode 9. And those labtops comes from this episodes...

[M.D. Geist]

oh ups ^^

my bad :<

[Village Idiot]

Ep 11 Out

http://dat.2chan.net/18/res/3017378.htm

HOLY CRAP, they're animating the fleet battles!!!!! :D

It's like a Holodeck :D

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[M.D. Geist]

Cool, we even get to see more Tsuruya! ^^

[rain...]

OMG! And when I thought they were just going to do something 2d.

[IchiKyo]

They getting us scare for the Photoshop Blood Face -_-

Oh Mawahahaha XD
Albator Battle XD

[liuic]

http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/1150038390335f5e8.jpg


OMG!!
the cover includes 3 animes
1.Space Battleship Yamato
2.Legend of the Galactic Heroes
3.The Heroes Of Galaxy Wars Series

[Astrayred]

Those screenshots looks great!Can't wait for the raw to come out:D

[Kinny Riddle]

Holodeck battles, Yuki pwning. Nice.

I like how everyone in Mikuru's fleet are all those cat-like emoticon figures you often see in the 2ch boards. :heh:


Hoho, so it's Live Alive over Endless Eight next episode. Time to work.

[Pakxenon]

omgomgomgomgomgomg c'mon raws c'mon raws.

sci-fi space battles!!!! can't wait!

[Deathkillz]

a pinch of star wars and gundam space battles (minus the gundams) O.o fantastic!!...

[Kaioshin Sama]

If my japanese would be good enough id do the same too ... however, watching haruhi and only understanding ~10% sucks ^^

Btw. this is the farest ep so far right? (concerning timeline)

How about watching Haruhi suck (at the game that is) and 10% of the people here understanding why she does. Answer: It's a personality quirk (I too tend to pool my stats into strength and speed in most games that let me, but that's because I focus on not getting hit which I'm really good at if you've ever seen me play DMC 3. Anyway though you can't do that in Strategy games like this, SRW maybe but not a fleet battle game.).

Thank god for Kyon guarding her fleet or it would have been over before Yuki could even have saved the day. Oh and why are there Free Planets Alliance ships on the cover of the CD Case. Also Haruhi's outfit only shows the rank of admiral not Grand Admiral. The rank of Grand Admiral has shoulder Epaulets that have dangling pieces of thread and Haruhi only has three stripes while the Grand Admiral uniform has four which points to her being an Admiral.

[Onizuka-GTO]

more like Macross with a dash of Sekai no Senki with a sprinkle of Gunbuster!

:D

This episode ROOOCK!!! one great episode after another? Banzai!!! :D

[Kaioshin Sama]

No its Legend of The Galactic Heroes really.

[M.D. Geist]

How about watching Haruhi suck (at the game that is) and 10% of the people here understanding why she does. Answer: It's a personality quirk (I too tend to pool my stats into strength and speed in most games that let me, but that's because I focus on not getting hit which I'm really good at if you've ever seen me play DMC 3. Anyway though you can't do that in Strategy games like this, SRW maybe but not a fleet battle game.).
.

Before the ppl here could clear all my questions, at least 2 days would have passed :rolleyes: :eyespin:

[Akyra]

a lil off topic, but what's the name of the anime for the screencaps above suzumiya screencaps from the 2chan link?

[BChild]

a lil off topic, but what's the name of the anime for the screencaps above suzumiya screencaps from the 2chan link?
I think it is called Sunflower (by direct translation of the title)

[IchiKyo]

*More of this and soon, we will see Haruhi Wars...*

[panzerfan]

Or MS Gundam in pre-MS days.
(and of all things... live alive next XD)...
whoa.

[Omniscient]

Episode 11 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/06/11/suzumiya-haruhi-no-yuuutsu-11/)

That was really awesome, mainly because of the great job KyoAni did with the space battle. Yuki gets more development this episode and I love the way the episode ended with her tapping her fingers on the book like it's a keyboard.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I know this is porobably not considered important compared to the space battles...

But just to point out, the board game Kyon and Itsuki are playing at the start of the episode involves a Go board and Go play pieces, but they are NOT playing Go.

They are playing Gomoku; put it simply, it's "connect five".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomoku

You can tell the difference even from a distance, because most Gomoku games has a cluster in the center rather than Go, where it's traditionally starts from near one of the edges.

[panzerfan]

They were supposively playing go... in the novel. This would be a variation from the book. Mikuru boiling tea is intact in the story (much shortened initial dialog though). Haruhi coming in though was more intact.

[M.D. Geist]

anyone got the go screenshot ?
cant analyze if its really go with epi10 ...

Playing in the center of a 19x19 go board isnt really that strange, although pros prefer the corners

looking at the position in epi 10 i thought of a fierce go battle game ^^

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

BwahHAHAHAHAHA!!!:D
At 15:37, Haruhi demanded a Gundam launch, which doesn't exist in the game. We got an extremely pixelated/censored image of an RX-78-2 Gundam launching!:D :eyespin:

[MrProphet]

Is this a reference to one of the Star Trek movies? 8)

http://2ch.ru/a/src/1150051574123.jpg

It was hilarious seeing Yuki wave the mouse in the air, trying to figure the interface out. 8)

[panzerfan]

The counterhack scene was absolutely wicked. Part of combat remind of Nadesico for some reason... hehe. (Gravity Blast anyone?) Although a bit of Yamato in that too.

[Shirobane]

BwahHAHAHAHAHA!!!:D
At 15:37, Haruhi demanded a Gundam launch, which doesn't exist in the game. We got an extremely pixelated/censored image of an RX-78-2 Gundam launching!:D :eyespin:
Hilarious stuff now that I know what happened lol. My sides hurt after the shot of the panicking neko man crew on Mikuru's ship

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Oh, there appears to be a rather major change in the game...

The computer club team had two cheats turned on when they played. The full-map cheat, and the teleport hack.

In the novel, Yuki deactivated the map cheat. Since none of the CC team had done any exploring, they effectively went completely blind. This part matches the anime.

In the novel, Yuki hacked the teleport cheat so that when the CC president tried to use it, his lone flagship and the entire SOS fleet gets teleported to the same spot together.

But in the anime, Yuki appeared to have merely disabled the teleport. Instead, she used "Formation U" (I learned that from LoGH) using all her mini-fleets and shepherded the CC president Flagship into the rest of the SOS fleet.
Yuki also got the honour to deliver the coup de grâce using the Wave-Motion Cannon. (Better known to Starcraft players as the Terran Battle-cruiser Yamato Cannon.):D
The cannon is artistic licence... That wasn't in the novel. Still, this is even more a Yuki-centric episode than expected. She is just SO cool.:eyespin:

[eVaX]

OMFG this episode is so hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing when they kept switching the fully orchastrated music to the crappy midi. The entire SOS crew (and Mikuru's subordinates) were hilarious. KyoAni seems to really hit their stride in terms of animation this episode too. I'm sure the hardcore Starcraft gamers are peeing in their pants watching this episode. Rating: 12/10.

[panzerfan]

(Why do you think I've been raving about this thing since last week ><. I am sure anyone that game feels the same)

The Day of Sagittarius turns out to be Fleet Command in 2d somewhat afterall. It actually feels a little like Super Robot War with the stats to the right but not really.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

(Why do you think I've been raving about this thing since last week ><. I am sure anyone that game feels the same)

The Day of Sagittarius turns out to be Fleet Command in 2d somewhat afterall. It actually feels a little like Super Robot War with the stats to the right but not really.
Actually, it most resemble the "Legend of Galactic Heroes" PC game, with the fleets almost identical in combat style.

A clue is in one of the novel quotes, when, tiring of silly orders from Haruhi, Kyon laments that there isn't a "mutiny" button he could press and attempt to overthrow her.
In the LoGH PC game, you do have the mutiny button.:D

Thus I suspect the novel author had the LoGH games in mind when designing DoS III.

[Kaoru Chujo]

...It was hilarious seeing Yuki wave the mouse in the air, trying to figure the interface out. 8) I was wondering if it was a reference to Wii.

[panzerfan]

Actually, it most resemble the "Legend of Galactic Heroes" PC game, with the fleets almost identical in combat style.

A clue is in one of the novel quotes, when, tiring of silly orders from Haruhi, Kyon laments that there isn't a "mutiny" button he could press and attempt to overthrow her.
In the LoGH PC game, you do have the mutiny button.:D

Thus I suspect the novel author had the LoGH games in mind when designing DoS III.

Too bad I've never played them. I would like to give it a try... being an old RTS junkie starting from C&C days I have no excuse.

01:05... beam ya missile wo "Piko Piko?" <- Not AIR tribute I hope...

(flashback to Live Alive was hilerious btw)

The details to the naming of the fleets is there as well as the setup of speed and offensive on the GUI. It has now been clearly established that the OS is WINXP.

15:00-15:20... Dies Irae disappears from Kyon's target lock out of the blue. That was lovely. (by hack)

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Too bad I've never played them. I would like to give it a try... being an old RTS junkie starting from C&C days I have no excuse.

01:05... beam ya missile wo "Piko Piko?" <- Not AIR tribute I hope...

(flashback to Live Alive was hilerious btw)
The major difference between the LoGH PC game and traditional RTS, is that in LoGH you have to fight for your own promotions. You don't get automatically promoted as each victory piles on; you have to play politics and search for openings. What amount of military resources at your command depends on your military rank.
(All this, of course, while you are trying to win the war against the enemy.)

The point of the "Mutiny" button, is that a successful mutiny automatically makes you the emperor of your people. As such the entire army becomes yours to control, and you would only have to worry about the battles rather than politics from that point on.

[dxgarten]

Episode 11 screencaps and summary (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/suzumiya_haruhi_no_yuuutsu_ep11.html)

It looks like the writers have gone 3D for the battle scenes. I thought they'll remain in that Atari 2D mode while the fight goes on

[Kaioshin Sama]

Wait there's an LOTGH PC Game!!!!! OMFG. Also When the two anime your watching similtaniously start to literally blend together, you've got to fear for your sanity.

[RiXeD]

Space battles? Freespace 2 FTW!

[panzerfan]

That ethernet switch looks like an old one, 8 port on closer inspection... the wireless mouse looks to be Kensington? Laptop comes with parallel port, USB, 1 Ethernet and 1 dialup jack... there's slight animation mistake which makes the laptop quite big (17" display model, 16:10 aspect ratio from top down view and smaller from other angles. Base on the screenshot (16:10 and 5:4 I would favor the 16:10 at 17" as the actual size of these machines)

(When it comes to space battle it's gotta be HW, Freespace is too shooter for me)

Edit: Desktop icons on Nagato's desktop: MSN 8, My Computer, Windows Media Player, Google Earth, IE and 3 folders.

Yuki wrote a program and compiled it, saved it in C:\ The program name is SimInject.exe. All the computers were on Microsoft Japanese IME. set to alphanumeric input.

[Sushi-Y]

That was a fun episode. Just like I predicted, they went all out with CG spaceships and fancy SF space combat. ^^;

There were so many parody references to other SF animes too, like Yamato, Gundam, and Macross.... Mikuru's nekomen crew was hilarious.

And so there we have it, another Yuki-main episode, I think it's about time people realized that the heroine of this series is not Haruhi, but Yuki. (well, as of volume 8, it's true) :heh: The only time Haruhi was treated like a main heroine was in the first volume of the novel anyway. After that, it's Yuki all the way!


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For the next episode, again, just like I suspected, they're doing "Live a Live" (not "Live Alive"), which covers the culture festival where "Asahina Mikuru no Bouken" was aired. Finally, we'll be able to hear at least one of the insert songs ("God knows..." or "Lost My Music") sung by Hirano Aya (Haruhi).

... Then again, I'm probably not the only one looking forward to seeing Yuki play her electric guitar like a pro. ^^;

[panzerfan]

Not really all the time like in the case of Snow Mountain but it is true that Haruhi doesn't get to be heroine that much after vol1. (Live a live would be Haurhi's moment in the sun though).

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Is it just me or does Yuki look 20x cuter than she did before?

[C.A.]

RX-78 appearing is something, but adding 'Ikimasu!' made me laugh, that's totally Amuro Ray lol

This episode reminds me of too many shows lol, Macross, Nadesico, Top Wo Nerae!, Gundam series, Starwars etc. etc.

Graviton Torpedoes, Super Proton Cannon, Mikuru sure has some exotic weapons, I've never heard of these. Anyone know where did these come from? And the Nekoman crew is hiliarious lol

Yuki is truely the Ruri of Haruhi's universe, or Ruri is the Yuki of the Mecha Universe lol

[Pakxenon]

That horizantal kick was awesome! So was all the fleet ship scenes. I don't think we ever saw fully Kyon's ship's bridge, though...

I was hoping for interceptors, but I guess that wasn't in the game...

Excellent episode nonetheless.

Yuki playing the guitar??? wtf...........!?!?!?!?

[velocity7]

We did see the bridge to some extent. Just like Yuki's, Kyon's bridge is full of Kyons.

[C.A.]

Itsuki's bridge is weird though, everyone is a nude green bald Itsuki lol

It was funny when the com club screamed: "Long live computer club", not exactly this but along the lines lol

[Cyz]

Cool! Capt. Haruhi and crew :heh:

[stormy001_M1A2]

Nah, it is more like Emperess Haruhi and her merry Servants.

[liuic]

Wait there's an LOTGH PC Game!!!!! OMFG. Also When the two anime your watching similtaniously start to literally blend together, you've got to fear for your sanity.

compare the game and these....

Legend of the Galactic Heroes OP2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeNpvC6rYF4

Legend of the Galactic Heroes pc series4
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the cover
http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/1150038390335f5e8.jpg
Yamato captain
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~cew99250/img/okita.jpg

[Decagon]

Loved the old school bgm. The massive fleets were awesome, too.

[panzerfan]

01:30 shows the bridge crew of Kyon's ship. It's all Kyon.

[Onizuka-GTO]

i will give my arm away to charity if i the subs comes out tomorrow... :(

never have i been so desperate for subs.....

[panzerfan]

In naval term, Nagato was able do perform "crossing the T" by the mean of that formation. Dies Irae was totally saturated from all points at the endgame.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

In naval term, Nagato was able do perform "crossing the T" by the mean of that formation. Dies Irae was totally saturated from all points at the endgame.
I am not sure that was the correct term... Nagato wasn't trying to destroy the target, but herding it into a trap. Her mini-fleets were not strong enough to destroy the enemy flagship on their own, since most of its forces are spread out elsewhere and keeping the other enemy fleets occupied.

Taking advantage of the fact that the enemy is blinded due to being in unexplored territory, Yuki made sure the enemy fleet can retreat only into the fire of Haruhi, Itsuki, Kyon AND Mikuru. After they removed nearly all the enemy's forces, the lone flagship retreated by itself back into Yuki's range of fire, where she finishes him off.

Yang Wen-li would be proud.:)

[panzerfan]

By the end though the lone fleet fell into the cul-de-sac. The 4 other fleets of computer club were unable to aid the leader and Dies Irae was caught in the crossfire. In the animation scene Kyon's fleet had to turn to fire which in itself to me reminds a great deal of combat of ironclads... thus I coined "cross the T" by the end. (Yuki's bait was what you mentioned on 19:30, on 19:33 would be the cul-de-sac)

[Burner of Anime]

coup de grâce using the Wave-Motion Cannon. (Better known to Starcraft players as the Terran Battle-cruiser Yamato Cannon.):D

AN SC player would beg to differ. The Yamato Cannon is a Nuclear Excellerated EM Shaped Fusion projectile similar to the main weapon for a CoTS Abh Assault ship. In other words, it doesn't come out like a beam of god particles like in Gundam but a superheated bolt of plasma.

Whichever it is, it's still 10 levels of cool and badass win:cool:

[Erhjegel]

The Computer Club President's attire reminds me of someone from Zeon...lol.

Subs plz. >_<

[techiet]

Quick thoughts:
Mikuru checking the thermometer on the tea is just plain cute.
What's up with the manhole cover? Hrm..
Totally a Yuki episode. Funny how Yuki starts off not knowing what to do with the computer but by the end just pwns the Computer Club.
Can I have a shipful of Yuki's? That'd be awesome.
Haruhi staring at Kyon was LOL for me.
Wait, are the cat-things the same ones when they're showing the sponsors? Hehe.
Epson ->Espon? ESP? Hrm..
Yuki has Google Earth? Interesting..
That final shot by Yuki was just kickass.

10/10 in my book.

Edit: Just noticed Yuki typing on her...book? I think she's addicted now.

[C.A.]

Wait, are the cat-things the same ones when they're showing the sponsors? Hehe.
Yes those are Nekoman(catmen) and they are original designs by Hirano Aya, Haruhi's voice actor. You can see a whole bunch of them on Haruhi's website.

[Erhjegel]

I love the graffiti on the heads of Mikuru's crewmen. XD

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

AN SC player would beg to differ. The Yamato Cannon is a Nuclear Excellerated EM Shaped Fusion projectile similar to the main weapon for a CoTS Abh Assault ship. In other words, it doesn't come out like a beam of god particles like in Gundam but a superheated bolt of plasma.

Whichever it is, it's still 10 levels of cool and badass win:cool:
Ah, you missed my point; the Terran Yamato cannon is named after the main weapon onboard the Space Battleship Yamato. Thus I was talking about the original Wave-Motion gun.

[C.A.]

Ha! No one answered my question, where did 'Chojuuryoku Gyorai' and 'Super Proton Hou' come from?

Proton hou(cannons), ok its actually quite a common weapon.

But 'Chojuuryoku Gyorai', Super Gravity/Graviton Torpedoes? I've never heard of such, anyone has?

[panzerfan]

Proton Cannon... (Starcraft Toss Structure, best defense combo but... u use Guardian to take'em down easy. Brood War final toss single player is jus about cannon grid, if it's a grid thou you can EMP+siege'em... in late game)

Graviton Torpedo I'm running blank. I seen something that you can call that in Kiddy Grade I guess...

[Erhjegel]

I've heard of a Graviton Cannon from somewhere, but never Graviton Torpedoes.

Though where I stumbled upon the concept of a Graviton Cannon eludes me.

[Woland]

If I remember well the Nadesico has a Graviton Cannon (or it was a Graviton blast?)

[panzerfan]

That was the Gravity Blast. Nagato's coup de grace with Haruhi's order reminds me a great deal of Misumaru Yurika telling Hoshino Ruri to fire on Nadesico.

[Erhjegel]

Yeah, Nadesico had the Gravity Blast. I swear I've heard the Graviton Cannon somewhere...!

...*brain fries, twitches on floor*

[Woland]

That was the Gravity Blast. Nagato's coup de grace with Haruhi's order reminds me a great deal of Misumaru Yurika telling Hoshino Ruri to fire on Nadesico.

In that sequence Yuki remembered me more Lapis from Nadesico - Prince of Darkness... well it's not that different in the end :) (and Ruri and Lapis are different names for the same a mineral for what I can remember)

[Srin Tuar]

How did haruhi know to give kyon an enthiusiasm injection, can she read his mind?
It was cute how she randomly loomed over him like that..

There wasnt much suspense in the game battle: we all knew yuki would eventually do her thing.
(re-writing the game server while its running doesnt happen without magic though, disbelief suspended)


I was afraid there wasnt going to be much plot advancement- and i was mostly right.
No developments between kyon+haruhi aside from her warm staring scene.

Yuki does seem to be warming up- maybe she wants to be human all the sudden.
It seems like Kyon has a higher authority with her than haruhi- she always seems to listen when he overrides haruhi's authority (second time now)

[Kaioshin Sama]

The Computer Club President's attire reminds me of someone from Zeon...lol.

Subs plz. >_<

When is the last time you saw a Zeon Uniform anyway, The CCP uniform looks more like something Bundorl from Sengoku Majin Goshogun wore in the opening to the show?

[iamandragon]

now watching the raw...Phoenix Wright parody again...wow...haha

EDIT: added as I keep watching:

Kyon's face as a captain is so cute! I want to cuddle him in my arms!

Itsuki's captain look is very cool too!

For the first time in this anime I think Mikuru's voice is cute!

When looking at Nagato's screen all i can say is "Oh my god! Oh my god!" This is great!

[panzerfan]

Funny that I was watching the Haruhi "Speech" spoof and a Sieg Zeon + Kanon's Last Regrets op while you mentioned of Zeon. (

[khryoleoz]

This episode had the finest music that the show had ever had. Did anybody notice the first movement of the Shostakovich Symphony number 7 queued in during the start of the game sequence? I was quite moved!

[iamandragon]

Cool! Is that the music played when the SOS dan was winning?

[Onizuka-GTO]

I swear I've heard the Graviton Cannon somewhere...!

...*brain fries, twitches on floor*

*cough*
Seikai no Monshou/Seikai no Senki
*cough*


;)

[kari-no-sugata]

For what it's worth...

The text on the screen at ~18:08 when Yuki is just about to hack the server program is:
c:> bcc32 -W SimInject.exe
c:> SimInject.exe

At a guess, Yuki wrote a program which would alter the currently running server program (for the game).

The code text (in C++) that flashes up while Yuki is hacking away is all the same - just cycled around repeatedly. I can see some thread creation code and other bits but not much. I downloaded the HD (1280x720) raw btw...

[iamandragon]

*cough*

*cough*


;)

Can somebody explain what's wrong?

Woops! That was a close one Onizuka-GTO ^^

[Shinji103]

OMG!! THEY DIRECTLY PARODIED BASARA'S "LISTEN TO MY SONG!!" "BOMBER!!!" LINE FROM MACROSS 7 IN THE NEXT EPISODE PREVIEW!! INSTANT WIN!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

As you can probably tell, I love Macross 7. :love:

[Xellos-_^]

9/10 I really really wanted to hear Yuki say baka.

[iamandragon]

Impossible. Yuki does not give comments.

[liuic]

When is the last time you saw a Zeon Uniform anyway, The CCP uniform looks more like something Bundorl from Sengoku Majin Goshogun wore in the opening to the show?

the character CCP trying to cosplay is from Yamato
look at the glass he is holding

デスラー
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[C.A.]

All I can say is rofl about these parodies.

Now that shinji103 mentioned,

Haruhi: Ore no Uta o kike!!

HOLY! Haruhi + Basara, my fanatism has just went up another level! Basara is my favourite anime singer ever! Kageki ni FAIA!!

About the earlier weapons discussion:

Nadesico = Gravity Blast
Granzon(SRW/Lord of Elemental) = Graviton Cannon

Yep, never any Graviton/Gravity Torpedoes. I wonder what sort of damage they produce, micro blackholes on impact? Pretty cool lol

[Onizuka-GTO]

Can somebody explain what's wrong?

Woops! That was a close one Onizuka-GTO ^^

:rolleyes:

Graviton Torpedoes.....mmmmm......I've heard of that...but...which series...AARRGGHH....

definitely not macross, not Gunbuster, not Gundam, not SnM/SnS, not Geneshaft, mmm....not Tenchi Muyo....cowboy bebop? nope...er.....dammit can't think of anymore. help. it's driving me nuts now. :(

[Deathkillz]

Yep, never any Graviton/Gravity Torpedoes. I wonder what sort of damage they produce, micro blackholes on impact? Pretty cool lol

fire a few of them and it would be the end of the universe never mind the world :heh:

[iamandragon]

How would it be the end of the universe?

[panzerfan]

I don't think it will doom the universe but it might screw up a planet pretty good. I am reminded of Kiddy Grade in the final fight against the huge Atlas ship/mecha when the some of the ES used something that I believe is Gravion Torpedo against the thing. (My memory is not that good about Kiddy Grade)

[khryoleoz]

Cool! Is that the music played when the SOS dan was winning?

No, but at the beginning of the game. What was amusing was that the music was vacillating between orchestral and computer bleep versions. I've critized the show before for uninspired background music, but this episode is quite special!

[C.A.]

No, but at the beginning of the game. What was amusing was that the music was vacillating between orchestral and computer bleep versions. I've critized the show before for uninspired background music, but this episode is quite special!

Weird lol, the BGM for this show has always been very amusing, maybe you like classical or more serious music.

I don't think it will doom the universe but it might screw up a planet pretty good. I am reminded of Kiddy Grade in the final fight against the huge Atlas ship/mecha when the some of the ES used something that I believe is Gravion Torpedo against the thing. (My memory is not that good about Kiddy Grade)

Hmmm I've never seen Kiddy Grade.

But feeling technical today, I'll explain how a Graviton Torpedo won't destroy the universe lol

A blackhole takes in matter, but at the same time it also spews out, thats called Hawking Radiation. How fast a blackhole takes in matter depends on its gravity, more mass more gravity. If a black hole pulls in matter slower than its Hawking Radiation, it will die very fast. A blackhole needs to have 10 solar masses in order to be able to balance its intake and Radiation, also it must keep feeding if not it will just Radiate away all its matter.

The Graviton Torpedo will most likely detonate itself near the surface of its target to cause a micro blackhole, initial size of blackhole depends on how much mass the torpedo carries. The heavy blackhole will then continue travelling into the target due to its inertia. The blackhole will pass through the target, ship in this case, and pull matter in a radius around it. The blackhole will then dissipate because its too small to sustain itself. This leaves a gaping hole in the ship and the ship explodes. Its like a drill, very powerful drill.

[Erhjegel]

When is the last time you saw a Zeon Uniform anyway, The CCP uniform looks more like something Bundorl from Sengoku Majin Goshogun wore in the opening to the show?

Been a while, actually, so I was kinda lost about it.

It wasn't particularly Zeonish to me, but at the time that was what clicked. Pardon my mistake. ;____;


*cough*
Seikai no Monshou/Seikai no Senki
*cough*


;)
Too late ;____;

[Kaioshin Sama]

All I can say is rofl about these parodies.

Now that shinji103 mentioned,

Haruhi: Ore no Uta o kike!!

HOLY! Haruhi + Basara, my fanatism has just went up another level! Basara is my favourite anime singer ever! Kageki ni FAIA!!

About the earlier weapons discussion:

Nadesico = Gravity Blast
Granzon(SRW/Lord of Elemental) = Graviton Cannon

Yep, never any Graviton/Gravity Torpedoes. I wonder what sort of damage they produce, micro blackholes on impact? Pretty cool lol

Man I'm starting to feel like I'm in a "Dark Prison" right now. By the way that's an in joke that probably only 5% of the people here will get.

[C.A.]

Man I'm starting to feel like I'm in a "Dark Prison" right now. By the way that's an in joke that probably only 5% of the people here will get.
Well you've always been keeping yourself in the Dark Prison.

If only you can join the 99% here who loves Haruhi. Haruhi unites our minds into one and its much more fun during discussions.

[dkellis]

Ahahaha Mikuru and her cat crew doing synchronized freaking out at 14:28 or so.

[Burner of Anime]

*cough*
Seikai no Monshou/Seikai no Senki
*cough*


;)


Not possible, the weapons that dominate that particular universe happen to be

Fusion plasma throwers [assault ships], anti-proton turrets [gen use], nuclear warheads with railgun launchers and my personal fav. anti-matter torpedo/mines. These guys most cetainly don't have graviton based weaponary. Doesn't matter, it's all pretty nasty.

Probably the closest to the graviton torpedo is the Murabasa used by the male fleet against the Vandread carrier.

[Radiosity]

Just been re-watching episode 9. Yay for subtle references to episodes yet to be aired :D

http://www.narcess.net/junk/laptopshot.jpg

[panzerfan]

(That's right! Keep returning to ep9 as more and more things start to make sense from ep9 as the storyline fills up the gaps in timeline.)

KyoAni was able to turn this episode into a tribute of space drama. I have to say that their creativity with script adaptation is just wonderful.

[iamandragon]

No, but at the beginning of the game. What was amusing was that the music was vacillating between orchestral and computer bleep versions. I've critized the show before for uninspired background music, but this episode is quite special!

Oh...so what's the name of the music when they are winning? Or is it a OST?

[iamandragon]

Oooo! What's those CDs beside the labtop?

[NaNash|]

The space battle was awesome!!!

Too bad it is too short

:(

[sleeplessNites]

The 3D battle scenes is totally unexpected, especially for just 1 episode. The part-time space crew designs are hilarious, Itsuki's crew have facial features made of japanese characters, lol. Haruhi shocked the sh*t out of a carefree Kyon when she "warped out" of his off-screen, rofl.

I do noticed that quite a few interesting novel details were left out. One the best episodes, nevertheless. If shuffling of episodes went by "saving the best for last" order, I wonder what to expect next.

[USCPharmacist]

This episode is made of fail and boring....yawn...

The only good thing is to see Yuki the "pupet master" lay the smacketh down on the script kiddies and her moe moe moment when she answered Kyon question:"You want to win too?"

[Vexx]

Though the episode is full of "flash and bang" .... it really did have a lot less impact than episode 10. Even the baseball episode seemed more compelling. If this were a 26 episode series, I'd be fine with it - but with only 14 episodes to tell about a girl who can alter the reality of the whole universe - this seemed a little diversionary.

I don't deny it was a lot of fun, but story time budget-wise I'm a little concerned. I just hope this means they already have a secret green light for second season and they're just going to give the fanbase aneurysms before they say so.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Well you've always been keeping yourself in the Dark Prison.

If only you can join the 99% here who loves Haruhi. Haruhi unites our minds into one and its much more fun during discussions.

I like the show just not as much as most people. Also you didn't get the play on words in regards to SRW, damn.

[PhantomX]

Sub is out guys ... those who held out (like me) should go and get it :X

[C.A.]

I like the show just not as much as most people. Also you didn't get the play on words in regards to SRW, damn.
You don't get it do you? I didn't play along because this isn't exactly a SRW discussion thread.

Ok, here's one for your sake:

It doesn't matter whether you have a spirit of steel or not, this is a Haruhi sub forum.

Even I wouldn't go Haruhist in an SRW/mecha forum.

--------

And lol, just when I'm about to say that the subs are late and here they are. a.f.k. is definitely reliable

[Radiosity]

Um, k, am I going blind? Because I don't see the subs listed on here and I haven't received any RSS feed updates telling me about it either.

/me runs off to check afk's site...

edit: Or I would, if afk had a site.

edit2: Yay for google. Seems it's on the tracker but not here.

[Catgirls]

Um, k, am I going blind? Because I don't see the subs listed on here and I haven't received any RSS feed updates telling me about it either.Yeah, it came through on a RSS feed (unless you check a certain site every 3 minutes). It's on the front page now (www.animesuki.com). I highly recommend a RSS Feed reader of some kind. They're VERY handy for tracking fan-sub releases.

[M.D. Geist]

Narf, they dont play go ;<

they play five in a row ...

[Decel]

While I agree that this ep doesn't have the same Ooomph as the previous ep, it was a great episode nonetheless.

As an old StarCraft whore, I was extremely pleased by the familiar terms used in RTS.

Giving it a 9!

[iamandragon]

Sub is out guys ... those who held out (like me) should go and get it :X

*Dances*
Getting ready for my 3rd re-watch of all the episodes for today.

[arias]

Did anyone else notice Yuki's gradual learning of the keyboard?

She starts by waving the mouse around of course : p And then during the three/four days of training, you can see her steadily learning the keyboard, from using one finger to type, to two hands with a finger each, to etc etc. Just a nice little detail : 3

[Danj]

Oh...so what's the name of the music when they are winning?

I too would like to know the name of the piece of classical music they were playing towards the end of the space battle.

Also, is there any English or English-translated game that resembles The Day Of Sagittarius III? It looks like fun :)

[iamandragon]

Seems like no one know what music it is...

Just watched the subs with my friends--unfortunately I didn't managed to drag extra Haruhi fans. because we are all haruhi fans to start off with before the anime...

[Kasrkin Squad]

Danj, it may or may not be your thing. I don't know if you have ever played a RTS or TBS but this might be boring to some. It is a simulation after all and well as much as I hate this fact sims are a niche market. Also no 3D graphics for the graphics whores.


Anyone else feeling like reinstalling Homeworld 2? (God Relic after Company of Heroes I demand a Homeworld 3 and another Warhammer 40k. Also a Star Wars RTS would be nice.)

BTW those h4xors got pwn3d.

Great episode though. I was dying when she wanted to launch the Gundam.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Seems like no one know what music it is...

Just watched the subs with my friends--unfortunately I didn't managed to drag extra Haruhi fans. because we are all haruhi fans to start off with before the anime...
If you really want to find out more about the classical music used, have a look at the "reader's comments in this particular blog page:
(note: I don't know enough about the music to confirm if they are right or not.)
http://www.yayapapayaz.com/handofgory/2006/06/13/the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya-11
Comment by wontaek | 2006/06/13 at 05:28:47
1. Even my wife, who despises Haruhi series for fostering wrong message, said that this was a good episode. She also noted that there must be hundreds to thousands of males rolling around the floor screaming their affection for Yuki after they saw this episode.

2. Music was great. I loved that they used Debussy, Shostakovich, and Tchaikovsky’s music. ( In the first Legend of Galactic Heroes OVA, they used Carl Nielssen, Mahler, Tchaikovsky, Ravel, and other classical composers ) Now, Debussy and Shostakovich’s 7th symphony, titled ‘ Leningrad ‘, has been used often in various movies, but this is the first time they used the much under performed Tchaikovsky’s 4th symphony, although they chose the finale of the last movement instead of the beginning of 1st movement. If you have free time, go to amazon.com or something and listen to the first minute of the 1st movement: That passage is destined to be used in many epic dramas and animes. If you are serious about aquiring the music, I highly recommend ones done by Yevgeny Mravinsky and Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra for the Russian composers. Debussy is done well by many so you need not be too picky there.

[lavarock]

Great episode, hooray for more yuki development.
I still hope that they can squeeze bamboo leaf rhapsody in the few remaining episodes left.

[velocity7]

Squeezing in Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody at this time is impossible now given the current episode numbering as it is, unless Asahina Mikuru's Adventure manages to become an episode 00 for real (e.g., is not included in the 14-episode run), which I highly doubt.

[Deathkillz]

loved the space battle ^^ its just like watching me playing games :heh:
yuki looks soo cute without her glasses and has super hacking skillz to boot...hurray!! :D
also did anybody catch the comment on the preview where suzumiya sed eps 12 is next and then kyon sed it was wrong and that es 12 is next XD...pointless but it made me laugh...

[Shirobane]

I agree with Vexx, although I'd rate this one above the baseball episode. The rest of Yuutsu arc could definately be pulled off in two episodes, especially how Kyoani handles the storytelling aspect. I'm worried however, about what kind of story they'd tell if they did go ahead with a second season of Haruhi.

Not the same impact as last episode but still was very fun. A lot of flash but a bit lacking in the character development portion of the show. Then again this episode played straight into my MMORPG flavour of the month...damned sneaky bastards.

objectively, this would be maybe a 7. +1 for great orchestral music, +1 for the fun and timely playing into my bias. So 9 overall, and too bad melange isn't around 'cause there'd be one helluva recruitment drive for the SOS-dan military wing :D

Hm, I wonder if I could grab enough people I know to write up a half-assed version of "Day of the Saggitarius"...

[panzerfan]

Maybe. There would be no shortage of ppl that would QC for you. The only thing that might be tricker is the AI.

Btw if such a game is made I would seriously suggest incoporate support for multimonitor setup as well as macro officially. I'd like to be able to repidly switch inbetween squadrons of fleets in order and setup predefined macro for their action instead of having to enter those in manually.

[Wandering_Youth]

Four words. This episode was awsome!

A full episode, which focused a lot on Yuki. How fitting it is for Yuki to be a super hacker.:heh:

I was expecting Yuki's laptop to blowup or atleast smoke as she was just grinding away on the keyboard.

[Orchunter226]

This was a good episode. When Haruhi kicks the comp. pres. in the side of the head I laughed pretty good.

The space battle was awesome and reminded me of playing starcraft with my friends at a Lan party where I was yelling at them all (like Haruhi). ahh Starcraft....

Anyways, it was an overall good episode, it focused on one thing and did it well. It also gave a little char. development to Haruhi and Kyon (the trust thing) and a lot to Yuki.

[Shirobane]

Maybe. There would be no shortage of ppl that would QC for you. The only thing that might be tricker is the AI.

Btw if such a game is made I would seriously suggest incoporate support for multimonitor setup as well as macro officially. I'd like to be able to repidly switch inbetween squadrons of fleets in order and setup predefined macro for their action instead of having to enter those in manually.
lol, I find the tricky thing is to get enough people to see the project through. You'll always get a lot of volunteers to start out with on a free project but they tend to lose interest quickly.

and no, you'll need to be Yuki-classed super hacker to micromanage 20 sub-fleets. pfft...macros:eyespin:

[Kamui4356]

This episode was hard for me to rate. On one hand, I really enjoyed it, as I'm a fan of Yuki and rts games. On the other hand, it was quite rushed, and left out a lot from the novel. In the end I decided to go with my enjoyment of the episode over comparing it to the novel and gave it a 9.

My biggest complaint with the episode would be the teleport cheat being left out. Just the fog of war cheat isn't really a big deal, and the SOS dan, while handicapped, could still conceivably win. I liked how the battles were animated though. I was expecting a few in game scenes to be animated like that, but I wasn't expecting so much. Though I guess watching the SOS dan playing video games wouldn't have been any more interesting than watching other people irl play video games. :heh:

Overall, it was a good episode, even if it wasn't nearly as good as the chapter in the novel.

Am I the only one who thinks it would be great if someone actually made DoSIII? Though I guess there are already a lot of games similiar to it... :heh:
edit: Hmm seems I'm not the only one who had that thought.

[CrowKenobi]

I liked it! :D

Some thoughts...
It was pretty amusing that Kyon was hoping that Haruhi wouldn't hear of the challange because he knew she would just jump (:heh:) in head first no matter what the challange was.
Nice detail by Kyoani when the computer club president was mentioning his "mental anguish" when Haruhi extorted the SOS Brigade computer from him, Mikuru twitched and squeaked cutely. :D
My thoughts about the music during the climatic battle is that it fit and it also reminded me of hearing similiar types of music watching documentaries on naval battles.
Come on, Mr. President! You can do a better Desslock than that! :heh:
When they do Kyon's flashback to Mikuru's costume in the festival, it wasn't Mikuru that was shown!http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1718/ndvd0423te.th.png (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndvd0423te.png)Yep, I agree... Major Yuki pwnage in this ep! :D And more Yuki looking to Kyon for permission to do stuff (and Haruhi not complaing about it!).

[C.A.]

Holy Macross 7 homage at the end of episode 12 preview:

compare this:

Sentou nara kudaranai se! Ore no uta
o kike!! BOMUBA!!!

Battles are useless! Listen to my song!! BOMBER!!!


Haruhi: Yokoku nante kudaranai wa! Atashi no uta o kike!!
Kyon: BOMUBA!!!

Haruhi: Previews are useless! Listen to my song!!
Kyon: BOMBER!!!

I was thinking of 9, but all these parodies and homages decided it was a 10 lol

[Onizuka-GTO]

Best moment of this episode:

Kyon: At leased we can count on Yuki *looks over at Yuki*

Yuki: *waving mouse in the air*

Kyon: ...I take that back....

LOLOLOLROFLBBQSAUCELOL

Classic.

:D :D

[ApathyEcstasy]

Best moment of this episode:

Kyon: At leased we can count on Yuki *looks over at Yuki*

Yuki: *waving mouse in the air*

Kyon: ...I take that back....

LOLOLOLROFLBBQSAUCELOL

Classic.

:D :D

haha yeah that was one of my favorite parts too

[Ardee]

I too would like to know the name of the piece of classical music they were playing towards the end of the space battle.

Also, is there any English or English-translated game that resembles The Day Of Sagittarius III? It looks like fun :)

That music is the 4th movement of Tchaikovsky's 4th symphony.

Incidentally, I was able to make out enough words on Yuki's page at the end to get a hit for it:

Google: utopia "quickly enough" "this is just" "terribly dull"
and you get 1 hit: "2001: A space odissey (script)" :-)

[Akuryou]

7 points for Yuki's leet hax abilities.
1 point for awesome Background music.
2 points for Haruhi's unexpected flying kick.

Can't believe it's the third 10 Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu gets. o_o

[In all the 23 episodes of the Fate/Stay Night, only Episode 14 deserved it.
And Higurashi no Naku Koro ni got two 10, so maybe it can catch up.]

[khryoleoz]

Oh...so what's the name of the music when they are winning? Or is it a OST?

I knew I've heard the music that was played where they started winning also. At first thought it sounded like Tchaikovsky. I looked at my iTunes library and I was right! For that music, check out Tchaikovsky's fourth movement (the finale) of his 4th Symphony. It's towards the end of the movement.

[Kasrkin Squad]

The space battle was awesome and reminded me of playing starcraft with my friends at a Lan party where I was yelling at them all (like Haruhi). ahh Starcraft....



These games could not be further apart. The only thing SC has in common with this is they are both fall into the RTS genre.

[steelbound]

This episode easily earned a ten. After watching yuki work I wonder if Major Kusanagi's hacking skills could possible stand up to her.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

This episode easily earned a ten. After watching yuki work I wonder if Major Kusanagi's hacking skills could possible stand up to her.
Before "Man-Machine Interface"?
Motoko had no chance. She was good, but as Agent Smith said, she is only human.

But after the end of the first Manga, and in MMI, Motoko has technically become a Data Entity herself. In that sense, Motoko can go toe-to-toe with Yuki. If anything, Motoko would have the upper-hand due to her longer association with Earth technology.

[Anime Online]

Kudos to KyoAni for another outstanding episode!

I had generally no interest in characters such as Rei Ayanami (Evangelion) or Ruri Hoshino (Nadesico), and I admit I had been hasty to write off Yuki Nagato in the early episodes. However, my doubts gradually cleared, especially with her awesomeness in Episode 10 (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV) and Episode 11 (Day of Sagittarius), and I now proclaim Yuki as my favorite-st character.

Haruhi's double-kick appearance to the CCP's challenge (05:31) and her staring to inject confidence into Kyon (13:28) is great. As is Mikuru and her crew's synchronized panicking (14:19).

I'm curious about the manhole cover with the frog design at 10:20 as well. What's its significance?

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I'm curious about the manhole cover with the frog design at 10:20 as well. What's its significance?
Manhole covers across Japan generally have unique designs depending on the local government. You can track down the city where KyoAni get their photographic references via the manhole cover. (The city has already been located, of course. Some old posts have located the library.)

[panzerfan]

I don't know... the thing is, data entity would overload any typical human being's brain even if they were to make an active connection to their 'overmind' via a terminal and only getting a tiny fraction of the information exchange. Mokoto is connectied to a 'primitive' form of network that is obsolute to the eyes of the data entities. Perhaps Nagato will not have an edge against Mokoto initially but that advantage would be much diminished if given time to get familiar to the technologies allowed. (If Nagato is set loose with no constraint against Kusanagi I... might be inclined to give Nagato the upper hand since matter and energy to her are all data that can be manipulated and processed)

Besides, if you're going to mention hackers we shaltn't skip Ruri Hoshino (In Prince of Darkness her demonstration of prowness is remarkable) and I would like to nominate Lain to challenge the strength of Aeon Nagato. Another interesting case to look into would be the AMG universe where the incantations are essentially programmes that ... can alter the physical plane if needed. (Lain the invisible hand up against Yuki.N ... that's something I'd like to behold.)

[ECFNW]

A well deserved 10 for this one.
This was easilly one of the best episodes in the series so far.
Funny thing, I actually knew a girl who moved the PC mouse in the air like Nagato the first time she ever used a PC.

[Kaioshin Sama]

7 points for Yuki's leet hax abilities.
1 point for awesome Background music.
2 points for Haruhi's unexpected flying kick.

Can't believe it's the third 10 Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu gets. o_o

[In all the 23 episodes of the Fate/Stay Night, only Episode 14 deserved it.
And Higurashi no Naku Koro ni got two 10, so maybe it can catch up.]

Yeah neither can I (Sarcasm). Anyway on another note did Haruhi actually scream BOMBER! like Basara, I must have missed that. Did anyone notice anything else specifically related to Macross in episode 11?

[porchoky]

Best episode in a while. and you have to remeber kyon told Yuki no 'cheating,' meaning yuki probably could have done a lot worse had she not been under kyon's constraints.

[sleeplessNites]

My biggest complaint with the episode would be the teleport cheat being left out. Just the fog of war cheat isn't really a big deal, and the SOS dan, while handicapped, could still conceivably win.

I think the animation is simulating realistic cheat which is why the teleport cheat was left out. Based on my mediocre knowledge, fog of war is a built-in function, meaning it can be turn off/on by changing a parameter. Teleport function modification requires re-coding that leads to a program recompilation. Leaving the intricacies of obtaining the source-code aside, for the new function routine to be effective, the Game/Server itself has to reboot. Unless one can modify system memory on the fly, which is near impossible and will likely crash the Program/OS.
In order words, a fan-service to the community. Of course, there are various other possibilities.

I would have preferred the inclusion of teleport cheat though. Its an anime after all.

[Conan-san]

Incidently, wasn't that another Lambada effect effect when Yuki went PT-Engne on the Computer Club?

Oh and Gun*** killed me.

[Soujiro10]

Yuki = teh win
Haruhi's unexpected qcf+K jumpkick = teh win

nuff' said

[C.A.]

Anyway on another note did Haruhi actually scream BOMBER! like Basara, I must have missed that. Did anyone notice anything else specifically related to Macross in episode 11?

Yes I did, but it was in the preview and I posted it on #130 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=589491&postcount=130):
Haruhi: Yokoku nante kudaranai wa! Atashi no uta o kike!!
Kyon: BOMUBA!!!

Haruhi: Previews are useless! Listen to my song!!
Kyon: BOMBER!!!

And also to quench your mecha anime thirst: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=589830&postcount=749

[tritoch]

Heh, I think next week is Haruhi playing teh piano episode.

Episode 9 gave alot of clues to the relationship build up for the expected last 3 episodes.

Yuki + hack = ownz

[panzerfan]

... (prohibited information)

[Boxy-]

As a long-time RTS gamer this episode amused me greatly. The whole episode was just great, 9/10

[Pabst]

Hilarious episode. Suzumiya Haruhi is by far and away one of the best written and directed animes I've seen in awhile.

It certainly seems like Haruhi is a mind reader, at least when Kyon is involved. Makes you wonder who is really the human that is influencing the galaxy...

It doesn't happen often, but when Haruhi kicked the Computer Society President out of nowhere, I burst out laughing. I can't remember when an anime episode made me do more then a chuckle or too.

[Danj]

As a long-time RTS gamer this episode amused me greatly. The whole episode was just great, 9/10

I'd still like to find a game like that (the "real" one, not the holodeck simulation CG version - although that was cool too). I had thought it was something like EGA Trek but I looked that up on Wikipedia and that used single ships rather than entire fleets.

[Kasrkin Squad]

^^^^^I can't think of many games that would be like that one. The LOGH PC game might be your best best if you can find menu translations and such.

Most PC games are developed by European and American developers and the west tends to take a more Star Wars/Star Trek view to space combat. I can't imagine finding a game where your fleet is made up of thousands upon thousands of ships.

I would recommend trying out a few sim RTS/TBS before biting on anything like this. Try Sid Meier's Civil War collection, (it comes with Gettyberg and Antetam) Waterloo Napoleon's Last Battle, and the Close Combat (WWII) series.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Civilizations_2
On second thought try to get a 4x space strategy game like this. It includes empire managament but some let you control your space battles. (This one doesn't you just watch the combat.)

[Onizuka-GTO]

^^^^^I can't think of many games that would be like that one. The LOGH PC game might be your best best if you can find menu translations and such.

Most PC games are developed by European and American developers and the west tends to take a more Star Wars/Star Trek view to space combat. I can't imagine finding a game where your fleet is made up of thousands upon thousands of ships.

I would recommend trying out a few sim RTS/TBS before biting on anything like this. Try Sid Meier's Civil War collection, (it comes with Gettyberg and Antetam) Waterloo Napoleon's Last Battle, and the Close Combat (WWII) series.


Screw sid meier's stuff. All you need is the Total War Series!!!

I bet if they did a Space war, it'll be just like DoSIII!!

But you can zoom in and see your indivudual ships in your fleets! it's By GODZILLIONS of them!

*can hear his PC weep at the mention of of Total War*

:D

[panzerfan]

Before I played Total War, I came out from Myth: The Fallen Lords and Myth:Soulblighter in 3d RTS if you don't count TA.

Supreme Commander has my hopes up with how they view units... although we shall see. What I wanna see is Homeworld kind of space battle that can be fought on the scale of DoSIII.

[Zappster]

Before I played Total War, I came out from Myth: The Fallen Lords and Myth:Soulblighter in 3d RTS if you don't count TA.

Supreme Commander has my hopes up with how they view units... although we shall see. What I wanna see is Homeworld kind of space battle that can be fought on the scale of DoSIII.

Indeed that would be wonderful. Let's hope Relic get to making Homeworld 3 or even a Battlefleet Gothic game(they have some really cool ship designs and stuff in there IMO which I'd love to be able to control. Eldar ones especially) with that sort of scale.

*drools*

As for ep 11. Good episode I thought. Had plenty of funny moments, and I'm growing to like Yuki more and more with each passing episode. Didn't get any of the references except the Gundam one but then that was pretty easy to pick out.
I'd agree with Vexx in that it seemed rather diversionary but then you could level that complaint at a few other episodes as well.

[Onizuka-GTO]

talking about homeworld, you do know there is a Macross & Gundam mod for it?

http://www.strategyplanet.com/homeworld/macross/

http://www.rakrent.com/rtsc/html/hwii7_06.htm

Unfortunately the Gundam Mod kinda died, but you can still get the Macross one. :p

I got a kick when I saw thost Valkyries transform, and shoot off those missiles, and not to mention seeing the SDF-1 fire off its cannons. LOLOLOL

mkid you, i'm really excited about Supreme Commander! I remember a gundam mod for T.A, ahhh.....I don't really recall any recent game that came close to T.A style ballistic...mm...wait perhaps DoW, That's another possibility too, a Battleship Gothic/DoSIII style...

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I don't know... the thing is, data entity would overload any typical human being's brain even if they were to make an active connection to their 'overmind' via a terminal and only getting a tiny fraction of the information exchange. Mokoto is connectied to a 'primitive' form of network that is obsolute to the eyes of the data entities. Perhaps Nagato will not have an edge against Mokoto initially but that advantage would be much diminished if given time to get familiar to the technologies allowed. (If Nagato is set loose with no constraint against Kusanagi I... might be inclined to give Nagato the upper hand since matter and energy to her are all data that can be manipulated and processed)
I suppose you have never read GitS: Man Machine Interface?:heh:

Motoko has BECOME a data entity of her own. Hell, she has become an entire new species, with children across the planet.

She has become so advanced, Motoko literally broke the magic barrier. An Esper from the Supernatural Bureau of Japan was sent to spy on Motoko, but the spy was most surprised when Motoko could see her spirit-walking incorporeal form.

MMI spoiler:
Motoko has developed so much, she is actually observing the growth of her own children. The "Motoko Aramaki" we see for most of MMI is in fact child number 7. Multiple avatars of the "leader" Motokos are seen across the comic, talking to number 7. And the original Motoko Kusanagi keeps herself busy playing chess in a spacestation. Motoko has evolved WAY past a mere human. She is the "EVE" of all data entities in the MMI universe. Motoko would likely not be able to fight Yuki's masters, as Motoko's clan is still young while the Data entities are around for a millenia. But Yuki herself would be far less of a challenge.

[panzerfan]

(That's when Nagato calls for her subordinates and other observational interface to back her up. A mesh network is much more useful than an individual terminal. Although I havta admit I need to read this. Seriously.)

Nagato's patrons do have substantial lead against even human from future on their time travelling arts. Nagato's connection if severed would put her at risk. Without severing that connection though the Motoko network/cluster will face an interface that when coupled with the data-entity uplink can effectively reshape the physical realm if she so wishes.

[RiXeD]

Ahhhh... Space battles reminded me good ol` times with Freespace 2....


And Haruhi`s stare was just awesome rofl!

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

(That's when Nagato calls for her subordinates and other observational interface to back her up. A mesh network is much more useful than an individual terminal. Although I havta admit I need to read this. Seriously.)

Nagato's patrons do have substantial lead against even human from future on their time travelling arts. Nagato's connection if severed would put her at risk. Without severing that connection though the Motoko network/cluster will face an interface that when coupled with the data-entity uplink can effectively reshape the physical realm if she so wishes.
In that case then, it's a good thing Motoko isn't truly limited to the physical realm anymore. Regardless, I strongly agree that you should read up on MMI yourself. If you still believe Yuki could win after reading up on Motoko's new capabilities, I will have no objections.

[Anime Online]

It would be difficult to gauge objectively who would come out top in a contest between Yuki and Ruri/Motoko/other anime character.

The main thing is that we do not know the extent of Yuki's powers. We do know, however, that the Integrated Data Thought Entity (IDTE) had reached the end of their evolution (basically they have learnt all the secrets of the universe) until they came across human beings. Haruhi, in particular, offered the IDTE hope in the next step of their evolution.

This means the technological level of the IDTE has far surpassed any we can possibly imagine. In his novel The Lost Worlds of 2001, Arthur C. Clarke mentioned "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
from magic." Can someone from the 1900s even comprehend the advancement the human race had made in the last 100 years?

And that is only in the space of 100 years! According to Mysterique Sign (Episode 7 at 18:23), Yuki inferred that the IDTE had already existed more than 280 million years ago. Unless humans in Ghost in the Shell anime universe had already discovered the mysteries of the universe, it is safe to say that the IDTE would be on a higher technological level.

On a purely theoretical basis (since both animes would never meet and fight it out), I would say that the Yuki/IDTE would have a major advantage over Motoko/Ghost In The Shell.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

It would be difficult to gauge objectively who would come out top in a contest between Yuki and Ruri/Motoko/other anime character.

The main thing is that we do not know the extent of Yuki's powers. We do know, however, that the Integrated Data Thought Entity (IDTE) had reached the end of their evolution (basically they have learnt all the secrets of the universe) until they came across human beings. Haruhi, in particular, offered the IDTE hope in the next step of their evolution.

This means the technological level of the IDTE has far surpassed any we can possibly imagine. In his novel The Lost Worlds of 2001, Arthur C. Clarke mentioned "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
from magic." Can someone from the 1900s even comprehend the advancement the human race had made in the last 100 years?

And that is only in the space of 100 years! According to Mysterique Sign (Episode 7 at 18:23), Yuki inferred that the IDTE had already existed more than 280 million years ago. Unless humans in Ghost in the Shell anime universe had already discovered the mysteries of the universe, it is safe to say that the IDTE would be on a higher technological level.

On a purely theoretical basis (since both animes would never meet and fight it out), I would say that the Yuki/IDTE would have a major advantage over Motoko/Ghost In The Shell.
I never claimed that Motoko could win against the entire Data entity society.
Just Yuki.

Yuki is not invincible. Ryoko would not have attempted to kill her otherwise. Yuki herself is 3 years old, and not as all-knowing as she first appeared. Sure, she's good at everything, but that doesn't make her Omnipotent. All signs point to Yuki possessing a mere fraction of wisdom that her masters possess.

[Kinny Riddle]

I'm biased when it comes to Yuki episodes. A ten from me.

Kyo-Ani did well to adapt this into a 3D space battle. The transition from operatic music to midi music was just funny.

Yuki once again saves the day. I think I melted seeing her look so passionate on winning this game (passionate for her standards, that is). :love:

[panzerfan]

(well anybody that would attack Nagato and bring her down is bound to face the data entity sooner or later... and it won't be fun but we can leave that aside for now..)

[JanthraX^]

talking about homeworld, you do know there is a Macross & Gundam mod for it?

http://www.strategyplanet.com/homeworld/macross/

http://www.rakrent.com/rtsc/html/hwii7_06.htm

Unfortunately the Gundam Mod kinda died, but you can still get the Macross one. :p

I got a kick when I saw thost Valkyries transform, and shoot off those missiles, and not to mention seeing the SDF-1 fire off its cannons. LOLOLOL

mkid you, i'm really excited about Supreme Commander! I remember a gundam mod for T.A, ahhh.....I don't really recall any recent game that came close to T.A style ballistic...mm...wait perhaps DoW, That's another possibility too, a Battleship Gothic/DoSIII style...

The Gundam Mod(Homeworld 2) is still alive and well check relic forums, they put in a Single player too. The Battle of Loum(spelling), awesome, plenty of ships and action.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Just a minor point I obtained from another website...

Guess who wrote the script for this episode?

None other than Shoji Gatoh!

The novel author of Full Metal Panic!!!!

What the HELL is he doing here? :heh:

Get back to work! Go and type up more FMP, you slacker!:eyespin: :p

[npal]

Well, in preparation of watching the episode tonight and posting in this thread, I browsed through the reply pages only to see the "BOMBER" comment.

Well, I opened the episode just for the preview. Hilarious :D I'll give it a 10 just for the Basara reference. My full comments in some hours, after I have time to watch the full thing.

[Erhjegel]

Jesus, this episode made me laugh harder than any other episode of Haruhi. Maybe that's because it catered to the sci-fi geek in me.

Several points of humor to note. The flying kick at the start, yuki's mouse-waving and Kyon commenting on it, their continuous defeats in training, Yuki showing no reaction in the middle of a space battle, Mikuru with her crewmen doing the same confused gestures simultaenously, the whole Gun*** parody (THIS = WIN), Haruhi's Murrue parody, and the Macross reference at the end. All was made of win and good.

I can't help it...this deserves a ten. ;___; Not only was the episode well-constructed, though missing out some pieces from the novels, the hilarious scenes were very amusing to see, and Yuki's development was welcome.

Also, the musical pieces in this episode were very suiting, able to evoke an epic feel to them...it's almost cathartic. That and, as some people pointed out, the changing of the music from the orchestral pieces to the simple beeping music that the game usually has is a nice touch to differentiate the reality of the game to the fantastical setting of it.

[Burner of Anime]

Something I realised

Haruhi kicked the PC club prez twice. The second one was when he directly challenged the girl :heh: The fool.

[Vexx]

After several viewings and thought... I ended up giving the episode an 8 (my lowest yet for the series).

As a standalone episode, it was thoroughly entertaining. Yuki goodness everywhere, a cascade of sci-fi and anime references, some great Haruhi-Kyon interaction tidbits, lovely detail (e.g. Yuki's typing skills), some great animation (Yuki's fingers, a lot of the subtle facial expressions, and the Haruhi kick were more impressive than the CG stuff).

However, as an element in a *really* short 14 episode series, the plot advancement was almost zero: they got computers, Yuki humanized a small bit. In a sense, it was a "filler beach episode"... unlike the actual beach episode which provided considerable plot advancement (or information provided for illumination of the viewer). In this case, it was gamer and anime reference fan service rather than bikini-awe.

So I give it an 8...... "very good". I hope the hell there's a hidden green light for another season because there's definitely a lot of story to tell.

[johnishida]

Good Episode! I can't give 10 to it 'cause I believe that goes for 10 only! I gave it an 8!

All the parts that uncluded Yuki were my favorites!

[blitz1/2]

Ahhhh... Space battles reminded me good ol` times with Freespace 2....


And Haruhi`s stare was just awesome rofl!

Yeah, I remember FS2.

Anyways, lots of gundam stuff in this episode.

Suzumiya Aznable

and the President was pulling off a Dozle.

[npal]

Ok. Seen it.

It was too good. Everything, from the space battle, Yuki's insane hacking skills, to Kyon's comments about everything and the numerous Mikuru adoration remarks, on top of the Macross 7 preview talk. Immensely enjoyed it.

MikuruxKyon FTW :D
Yuki rules :D
Tsk tsk Computer President shouldn't try to cheat a god :p

[RiXeD]

Tsk tsk Computer President shouldn't try to cheat a god :p

Dude... That`s like.... You know.... Pretty deep. I mean it.

[porchoky]

@Vexx you bring up an intersting point. With all the episodes out of order, its really hard to tell what's filler and what's plot advancement. It makes you forget about the plot and just enjoy the mini-stories and characters even more. I wonder if this was what KyoAni was aiming for, in addition to the fact that it fits the series perfectly.

[Kasrkin Squad]

Before I played Total War, I came out from Myth: The Fallen Lords and Myth:Soulblighter in 3d RTS if you don't count TA.

Supreme Commander has my hopes up with how they view units... although we shall see. What I wanna see is Homeworld kind of space battle that can be fought on the scale of DoSIII.

I wanted to mention the Total War series but the last thing I am in the mood for is old school fans of it telling me it is going an arcadey/dumbed down route.

I don't know if you all heard but Relic managed to buy the Homeworld licensee from it's old publisher so I am expecting a new Homeworld game soon. Possiblely after Company of Heroes.

The thought of a Warhammer 40k space combat game with HW like gameplay makes me happy.

PS: I am mainly looking forward to the WH40k Dark Crusade expansion, (necrons and tau) Company of Heroes, Warhammer Mark of Chaos, (fantasy) MTW2, and Supreme Commander. C&C3 looks like a cookie cutter RTS but there are a few other promising titles.

(To keep this on topic) With every new episode of Haruhi I have to keep wondering how much longer until PVC figurines will be out. I would kill someone for a Mikuru, (I swear I would buy every last version they make even if they just moved so much as her hand a mm or two.) a Nagato, (same thing as Mikuru but I wouldn't get ones in the same outfit) Haruhi, and a Ryoko one would be nice as well. Any news on them? I haven't found anything looking around.

To aide in keeping my post on topic. I am waiting for someone to mod a game to be DOS3. (hehe DOS)

[RiXeD]

I think that all Melancholy eps were plot-pushers (since they are like only ones about continuous story [vol 1], rest are about just one event [from other volumes]), and the rest.... Well, I already wrote that xP

BTW: If only Day Of Sagitarrius had REAL Beam Cannons.... I`d be in seventh heaven! Damn, where`s my FS2?! *goes to look for CDs in the cupboard*

...

Hey what`s this Ravana doing he--?! *gets Beam Cannon`ed*

[ApathyEcstasy]

I suppose you have never read GitS: Man Machine Interface?:heh:

Motoko has BECOME a data entity of her own. Hell, she has become an entire new species, with children across the planet.

She has become so advanced, Motoko literally broke the magic barrier. An Esper from the Supernatural Bureau of Japan was sent to spy on Motoko, but the spy was most surprised when Motoko could see her spirit-walking incorporeal form.

MMI spoiler:
Motoko has developed so much, she is actually observing the growth of her own children. The "Motoko Aramaki" we see for most of MMI is in fact child number 7. Multiple avatars of the "leader" Motokos are seen across the comic, talking to number 7. And the original Motoko Kusanagi keeps herself busy playing chess in a spacestation. Motoko has evolved WAY past a mere human. She is the "EVE" of all data entities in the MMI universe. Motoko would likely not be able to fight Yuki's masters, as Motoko's clan is still young while the Data entities are around for a millenia. But Yuki herself would be far less of a challenge.

uhhh the data entities have been around for a lot longer than a millenia.....you should pay more attention

[ApathyEcstasy]

I suppose you have never read GitS: Man Machine Interface?:heh:

Motoko has BECOME a data entity of her own. Hell, she has become an entire new species, with children across the planet.

She has become so advanced, Motoko literally broke the magic barrier. An Esper from the Supernatural Bureau of Japan was sent to spy on Motoko, but the spy was most surprised when Motoko could see her spirit-walking incorporeal form.

MMI spoiler:
Motoko has developed so much, she is actually observing the growth of her own children. The "Motoko Aramaki" we see for most of MMI is in fact child number 7. Multiple avatars of the "leader" Motokos are seen across the comic, talking to number 7. And the original Motoko Kusanagi keeps herself busy playing chess in a spacestation. Motoko has evolved WAY past a mere human. She is the "EVE" of all data entities in the MMI universe. Motoko would likely not be able to fight Yuki's masters, as Motoko's clan is still young while the Data entities are around for a millenia. But Yuki herself would be far less of a challenge.

uhhh the data entities have been around for a lot longer than a millenia.....afaik they've been around for millions of years, if not from near the very beginning of the universe

and please don't be so silly as to compare "ZOMGZ SUPER BEINGS" from a COMEDY anime to "ZOMGZ SUPER BEINGS" from a true scifi anime...if you want to play that game..then my "ZOMGZ SUPER BEING" Christian God (i'm not Christian, but i hope you get my point here, if not, then god damn there's no hope for you), is far superior to the data entities of some friggin scifi manga or comedy anime

[RiXeD]

ZOMG SUPER BEINGS made me laugh.

[ApathyEcstasy]

ZOMG SUPER BEINGS made me laugh.

i'm glad you enjoyed it :p

edit: sweet, do you live in poland? or are you just of polish ethnicity

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

uhhh the data entities have been around for a lot longer than a millenia.....you should pay more attention
I know that. It's just that I don't feel like typing out a lot of extra zeros. There is no difference in this case.

[ApathyEcstasy]

I know that. It's just that I don't feel like typing out a lot of extra zeros. There is no difference in this case.

i edited my post

[Onizuka-GTO]

i'm glad you enjoyed it :p

edit: sweet, do you live in poland? or are you just of polish ethnicity

doesn't matter, they still lost to Germany. again (x11)

*wave a world cup flag*

:D :D

[ApathyEcstasy]

doesn't matter, they still lost to Germany. again (x11)

*wave a world cup flag*

:D :D

i don't watch football, and don't care about it

[Onizuka-GTO]

i don't watch football, and don't care about it

Heathen! Burn the Infidel! :D

Anyway, I can't wait for Live Alive!!!

Although it will be on more sedated familiar grounds, it looks promising and im glad of a little breather after those two action fun episodes. :p

[CrowKenobi]

Yeah, I remember FS2.

Anyways, lots of gundam stuff in this episode.

Suzumiya Aznable

and the President was pulling off a Dozle.
Do you mean Dolza from Macross (Robotech)?

The President was actually pulling off a Desslar/Desslock from Space Crusier Yamato/Star Blazers.

The presidenthttp://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6287/ndvd0440ug.th.png (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndvd0440ug.png) Desslar/Desslokhttp://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5415/ndvd0455fv.th.png (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndvd0455fv.png)

Glad to be of help! :D


Anyway, I can't wait for Live Alive!!!

Although it will be on more sedated familiar grounds, it looks promising and im glad of a little breather after those two action fun episodes. :p

You should be glad of the breather considering what's coming after Live A Live! :D

[ApathyEcstasy]

Heathen! Burn the Infidel! :D

Anyway, I can't wait for Live Alive!!!

Although it will be on more sedated familiar grounds, it looks promising and im glad of a little breather after those two action fun episodes. :p

meh, i used to play it a lot when i was a kid and used to watch it on tv when i was a kid as well..but it's just something i grew out of..now the only sports i enjoy watching are on the olympics, especially olympic boxing and olympic wrestling

[arias]

meh, i used to play it a lot when i was a kid and used to watch it on tv when i was a kid as well..but it's just something i grew out of..now the only sports i enjoy watching are on the olympics, especially olympic boxing and olympic wrestling

If you're implying that football is something to be "grown out of", I'm quite suprised. After all, we -are- on an anime message board.

[ApathyEcstasy]

If you're implying that football is something to be "grown out of", I'm quite suprised. After all, we -are- on an anime message board.

i actually WASN'T implying that it's something to be grown out of...thanks a lot for assuming that though :(

[Trax]

A funny episode, although not as impressive as the last one, and some of the references were lost on me, so I gave this one an 8. Yet again Haruhi somehow seemingly reads Kyon's mind, her attempt at confidence injection was amusing aswell. :heh: But for the most part, this was definately Yuki's episode, it was great to see her reactions. :)

[Seyluun]

So, did anybody find out what's Yuki's typing at the very end of the ep yet?

[arias]

A funny episode, although not as impressive as the last one, and some of the references were lost on me, so I gave this one an 8. Yet again Haruhi somehow seemingly reads Kyon's mind, her attempt at confidence injection was amusing aswell. :heh: But for the most part, this was definately Yuki's episode, it was great to see her reactions. :)

The "reading the mind" part to me, is actually a substantial puzzle of the series. For example, we often don't actually know whether Kyon is saying something or just thinking about it when we read the novel.. similarly, we've seen this "reading effect" in the previous episode where Haruhi thought that Kyon was saying something. I think one poster construed this as Kyon mumbling, but this episode showed otherwise...

Again, this lends to both the theories of Haruhi being god (and hence being able to read minds) or.. -Kyon- being god, but this one is a trickier story. Mm. Still food for thought, I think.

[ryaken]

Best moment of this episode:

Kyon: At leased we can count on Yuki *looks over at Yuki*

Yuki: *waving mouse in the air*

Kyon: ...I take that back....

LOLOLOLROFLBBQSAUCELOL

Classic.

:D :D

Agreed!

I'm glad I read the chapter before watching. Nagato Yuki is on a grand level of kawaii in this ep, its not really a secret. Definitely knew there was more to this girl from the time she slipped the secret note in the book before giving it to Kyon (what is his real name anyway??).

Although, Yuki has that "poker face", I have a feeling that she is simply very good at keeping her emotions inside. Yes, she definitely has something going on inside.

Emotions. Yuki's got'em, but if she is considering that data as unimportant junk, or unrelated info, then she probably doesn't understand them very well and they are running amok. Pehaps she has them filed neatly in her super cleano internal data storage facility. May be she even peeks at them every once in a while? I don't know, it's just a thought.

Anyway, she has really great eyes

[C.A.]

Kyon isn't god, though I myself posted a theory in the speculation thread of him being the god last time. Right now I totally belief he's a normal human. I'll post at the speculation thread in a while.

[Anime Online]

At 05:04, Kyon said the only memory he wanted to retain from the cultural festival would be Asahina-san's fried soba cafe costume.

At 05:09, we are instead treated to the following image of Tsuruya-san (not that I mind, of course).

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7146/tsuruya7lu.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tsuruya7lu.jpg)

That's kinda odd. Could Kyon be unconsciously shifting his attention from Asahina to Tsuruya? Is there hope for Kyon x Tsuruya fans afterall?

[C.A.]

At first I thought that was Tsuruya as well, but upon further inspection, her hair style is totally different. Not sure who this is, maybe some other Mikuru classmates in maid costume.

But yes, Tsuruya in a formal maid costume is the most gorgeous maid I've ever seen, even better than Mikuru's version.

[Anime Online]

Yes, you are right. Upon closer inspection, the hairstyle is different.

[Vexx]

Agreed!

I'm glad I read the chapter before watching. Nagato Yuki is on a grand level of kawaii in this ep, its not really a secret. Definitely knew there was more to this girl from the time she slipped the secret note in the book before giving it to Kyon (what is his real name anyway??).

Although, Yuki has that "poker face", I have a feeling that she is simply very good at keeping her emotions inside. Yes, she definitely has something going on inside.

Emotions. Yuki's got'em, but if she is considering that data as unimportant junk, or unrelated info, then she probably doesn't understand them very well and they are running amok. Pehaps she has them filed neatly in her super cleano internal data storage facility. May be she even peeks at them every once in a while? I don't know, it's just a thought.

Anyway, she has really great eyes

Pure speculation: its the old "put an alien mind in a human body and after a while they start thinking and emoting like a human" story .... Star Trek did that a few times.
However, I remember one short story when i was a teenager that went the other way: they'd re-engineer humans to live outside on the surface of Titan ... but they kept losing contact with the volunteers so they reworked their top guy and sent him out to see what was going on. Once out there: all the new scents, the feelings, the textures were so exhilarating he just felt sorry for the "behinders" and never looked back.

[Shinji103]

Well, we get to see her in a maid outfit next episode anyway. :D :love:

[amoirsp]

Well, we get to see her in a maid outfit next episode anyway. :D :love:

Isn't it a fried soba cafe costume? I guess that's a maid outfit.

I wanted to point out something that I didn't notice earlier. Did anyone notice that on the episode preview of Live A Live, that it felt like all of Tsuruya's actions within the preview itself looked like the mouth movements actually matched Haruhi's introduction to the next episode? It totally looked like lip synchronization even though Tsuruya in the next episode on that same exact scene will definitely say whatever actual content is presented. Even Taniguchi's appearance on the preview also seemed to initially match Kyon's incorrect correction. And then it's like when Kyon looks at the menu or paper he's holding in the preview, then he corrects himself. I don't know, it seemed like in that particular preview it seemed like everything they showed matched what they were saying.

[PEDOS_GRANDE]

The Gundam Mod(Homeworld 2) is still alive and well check relic forums, they put in a Single player too. The Battle of Loum(spelling), awesome, plenty of ships and action.

There's also a Gundam mod for Starcraft floating around. It was being worked on in 99/00, but then the guy stopped. Seeing as how it was 6 years ago, it might be hard to find now, but Ive still got my copy :>

[Onizuka-GTO]

The thought of a Warhammer 40k space combat game with HW like gameplay makes me happy.

You do know Games Workshop has a Tabletop game of that already? It's called Battleship Gothic, now all Relic has to do is get the licence off GW and they are sorted! WOOT!!

BIOTYRANT Ships???!!!! Necron Tomb ships?!! Kroot Sphere?! Not to mention even a Black Fortress or a ELdar Craftworld?!?!?!!

YEEES!!!
:D

I hate you Haruhi, for bringing back my hard sci-fi spirit back to life... :(

[Anime Online]

Pure speculation: its the old "put an alien mind in a human body and after a while they start thinking and emoting like a human" story


I suppose this is a throwback to the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do"

[ApathyEcstasy]

Yes, you are right. Upon closer inspection, the hairstyle is different.

who the hell could it possibly be then

[velocity7]

At 05:04, Kyon said the only memory he wanted to retain from the cultural festival would be Asahina-san's fried soba cafe costume.

At 05:09, we are instead treated to the following image of Tsuruya-san (not that I mind, of course).

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7146/tsuruya7lu.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tsuruya7lu.jpg)

That's kinda odd. Could Kyon be unconsciously shifting his attention from Asahina to Tsuruya? Is there hope for Kyon x Tsuruya fans afterall?

Kyon is referring to the costume that Mikuru made. In Live A Live she and Tsuruya are wearing it, and since we didn't get enough Tsuruya, KyoAni decided to give us that image. :)

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Kyon is referring to the costume that Mikuru made. In Live A Live she and Tsuruya are wearing it, and since we didn't get enough Tsuruya, KyoAni decided to give us that image. :)
I don't think Mikuru made the outfit. Kyon mentioned that Mikuru's class must have someone good at clothing design, but I don't think Miruru was credited for it... And could you imagine Mikuru sewing? She would hurt herself!:heh:

[khryoleoz]

You know, this episode really kicked butt in the music department! We had Shostakovich's Symphony #7 at the start of the game (with a funny computer bleep version it would switch to), Tchaikovsky's Symphony #4 at the end, and I just noticed Ravel's Daphnis et Chloe at the episode prologue. The only two missing from my top 5 favorite composers are Stravinsky and Bartok. I like the music director's choices!

[Kurz]

Just a minor point I obtained from another website...

Guess who wrote the script for this episode?

None other than Shoji Gatoh!

The novel author of Full Metal Panic!!!!

What the HELL is he doing here? :heh:

Get back to work! Go and type up more FMP, you slacker!:eyespin: :p

I guess you didnt notice when Esper Boy summoned fireballs by saying Fumffou, and Second Raid, in the episode of the bug.

My guess they are having too much fun being creative with this series.

[velocity7]

I don't think Mikuru made the outfit. Kyon mentioned that Mikuru's class must have someone good at clothing design, but I don't think Miruru was credited for it... And could you imagine Mikuru sewing? She would hurt herself!:heh:

Episode 9. ;) But yeah, re-reading the chapter, you're right, it was left as unknown after all.

[Ardee]

So, did anybody find out what's Yuki's typing at the very end of the ep yet?

It doesn't seem to me to spell anything for an English keyboard layout. Hehe, I was just sitting with my laptop on my lap, replaying these few frames, pausing and unpausing to try and see it, and trying to visualize a keyboard's layout. Completely forgetting that I was holding my laptop and typing on its keyboard at the time :p

So maybe you can type absentmindedly.

[Shirobane]

Episode 9. ;) But yeah, re-reading the chapter, you're right, it was left as unknown after all.
I believe that was crochet rather than sewing :p

[Lost]

So, did anybody find out what's Yuki's typing at the very end of the ep yet?
I can't make any particular word out, but in case someone can, here goes (from the QWERTY layout)

Her first tap was with her thumb on the right hand, and it would land somewhere in the vicinity of the N (could be central BNM line), but it could also be the Space button.

Second tap was in the vicinity of the T, on the topmost line, it could be a Y, which made me think shes typing her name (but in Eng!??). 3rd tap: She moved her hand further in, so it should be the second line, vicinity of K.

4th tap, I'm pretty sure was on the QWER line. 5th tap, on the TYUI line. Last tap before screen blacks out, DFG line.

Now, even assuming shes using the QWERTY layout (but she should be, considering the Windows XP interface, the commands in the cmd window are also in EL characters, and some actual shots of the keyboard) I can't make sense of what she would be typing! Maybe something in Romanji?

I've a feeling I just did something useless. :heh:

Anyhow, nice episode. I really love it when they do such aspects on Yuki, maybe its because it lets me make sense of this data creation; and how shes not so lifeless as I thought. Gives it a 9.

[C.A.]

Yuki maybe not even be typing according to an English keyboard, maybe she's typing in Hiragana?

[Lost]

oooo possible.. the closest snap of the board I can get is this

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3525/vlcsnap120282aa9fv.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap120282aa9fv.jpg)

[npal]

Well, it's obviously a keyboard with Hiragana on. If anyone recognizes the layout, he could speculate about it. Maybe she's writing something interesting.

[Vexx]

And its damned hard to *find* a -kana keyboard here in the states.... classmate's wife has one but she brought it with her from Japan.

[Danj]

Okay, well it seems like the Day of Sagittarius III game is definitely based on a Legend of Galactic Heroes game as others have mentioned, and after a bit of research I turned up this screenshot (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20031113/ginei06.htm) of 銀河英雄伝説 VI (Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu 6). It seems like it's actually not massively old, it came out around 2000 or so. I haven't a clue how one would go about getting hold of it though, Amazon Japan won't ship games out of the country, and hardly anybody else seems to do Japanese PC games.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Okay, well it seems like the Day of Sagittarius III game is definitely based on a Legend of Galactic Heroes game as others have mentioned, and after a bit of research I turned up this screenshot (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20031113/ginei06.htm) of 銀河英雄伝説 VI (Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu 6). It seems like it's actually not massively old, it came out around 2000 or so. I haven't a clue how one would go about getting hold of it though, Amazon Japan won't ship games out of the country, and hardly anybody else seems to do Japanese PC games.
That was the 20th anniversary edition, containing several versions of the game.

A massive MMOSLG was being planned and produced by Chinese, Korean and Japanese programmers in 2004, but "LoGH VII" collapsed as a deal and the franchise effectively went dead. (Damn! It looked good too...)

The first LoGH game came out in 1989... And no, I have no idea where to get a copy of my own.

[ryaken]

Once out there: all the new scents, the feelings, the textures were so exhilarating he just felt sorry for the "behinders" and never looked back.

I see. When I read this I was oddly reminded of Roy Batty's line..
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe..." I sure the rest is known well.

I guess unusual and amazing experiences have strong influence ability, but I this swings around to questions like "Who are the static and dynamic characters of Yuuutsu, esp in the viewers perspective"

Its too early in the morning. :)

[Danj]

That was the 20th anniversary edition, containing several versions of the game.

A massive MMOSLG was being planned and produced by Chinese, Korean and Japanese programmers in 2004, but "LoGH VII" collapsed as a deal and the franchise effectively went dead. (Damn! It looked good too...)

The first LoGH game came out in 1989... And no, I have no idea where to get a copy of my own.

Well apparently somebody I know is actually visiting Japan at the moment, so I asked him if he can have a look in used game shops for it or something, showed him the boxart pictures from Amazon Japan so he knows what to look for. So maybe I'll be able to get hold of it.

[Erhjegel]

After watching the episode, I'd have to say that there was another emphasis this episode was focusing on, but was overshadowed by the impressive space battle, rather than accentuated by it - Haruhi and Kyon's trust within each other.

Even though Itsuki only touched on the subject briefly, it was evident in the whole "space battle" sequence, and also in the episode's resolution. During the whole game, both Haruhi and Kyon were really into the game with the way, they were reacting and everything (replaying 15:46 to 15:51 several times just to hear Haruhi say "watashi ga hakenishiteruwa yo" in a slightly pissed manner was worth it!) as well as treating the game, both seemed to share a mutual enjoyment to what they were "experiencing", be it the game or the space battle they might have thought up for themselves. Whether or not it's apparent, there really is an apparent mutual link betwen the two now, even if Kyon might (and will) fervently deny it.

Also, Haruhi letting Yuki decide for herself due to Kyon's intervention makes me believe that she allowed such a thing not only because Kyon told her to do so, but because she trusts in his decision-making.

Keeping these two things in mind, as well as the upcoming Haruhi no Yuutsu episodes, I definitely can't wait to see the emphasis on the growing connection between Haruhi and Kyon to gradually lead to the bond that they share that was shown in this episode.

[C.A.]

Yes, Haruhi offered herself because she trusts that Kyon will help her win this.

Kyon of course helped Haruhi win this, by given Yuki the go to pwn the computer club.

[Erhjegel]

Yes, Haruhi offered herself because she trusts that Kyon will help her win this.

Kyon of course helped Haruhi win this, by given Yuki the go to pwn the computer club.
What I meant was something more than that, though. For example, Haruhi and Kyon were enjoying the game on the same level, even Itsuki commented on it. And the way they were reeacting to certain events in the game (when Kyon was about to counter-fire on the enemies but then they disappeared, when Haruhi decided to suddenly rush in, and when they were firing back on the enemies after Yuki avtered the cheat) showed that there could possibly be more than them just enjoying it on the same level - that they're connected in some level, they share a sort of mental link, and they both completely understand each other, even though Kyon may play oblivious to it.

What I can't wait to see is how they lead to that, since several episode have already portrayed that link existing between them, and we've yet to see what might have led to that. Course, reading the novels, you know what's coming next, but with KyoAni's animation job, I just can't wait to see the last two episodes! >w<

[C.A.]

What I meant was something more than that, though. For example, Haruhi and Kyon were enjoying the game on the same level, even Itsuki commented on it. And the way they were reeacting to certain events in the game (when Kyon was about to counter-fire on the enemies but then they disappeared, when Haruhi decided to suddenly rush in, and when they were firing back on the enemies after Yuki avtered the cheat) showed that there could possibly be more than them just enjoying it on the same level - that they're connected in some level, they share a sort of mental link, and they both completely understand each other, even though Kyon may play oblivious to it.

What I can't wait to see is how they lead to that, since several episode have already portrayed that link existing between them, and we've yet to see what might have led to that. Course, reading the novels, you know what's coming next, but with KyoAni's animation job, I just can't wait to see the last two episodes! >w<
Yea I know what you mean, I'm just adding onto it lol

Actually Kyon doesn't want to accept the fact that he and Haruhi is so close to each other. He thinks Haruhi is destroying his life lol, though he actually had fun meeting such an unusual bunch of people. He has an even bigger disbelief though.

[RiXeD]

Yes, Haruhi offered herself because she trusts that Kyon will help her win this.

IMO she rather wanted to be "rescued" by Kyon just like he "rescued" Yuki and Mikuru.

No offence tho, it`s only my opinion ^^

[C.A.]

IMO she rather wanted to be "rescued" by Kyon just like he "rescued" Yuki and Mikuru.

No offence tho, it`s only my opinion ^^
I'm sure she would like that lol

But Haruhi has a love for danger and being in trouble more than Kyon lol

[Lost]

IMO she rather wanted to be "rescued" by Kyon just like he "rescued" Yuki and Mikuru.

No offence tho, it`s only my opinion ^^
Thats an interesting view.. putting herself into the shoes of the defenseless maiden-in-distress? But how would you substantiate that view? I like it, but I dont think it would apply as I did not see her giving any indication of such a mindset (it seems to me she just suggested that out of the blue), indeed, thruout the game she still maintained that I'm-the-leader-I'll-pwn-everyone attitude.

Althought, she did give some effort into respecting the opinions of Kyon at the start of the game by holding back, and I think thats what causing me to respect Haruhi a little more.. how shes giving more leeway to Kyon. (random tot: main character shift? :heh:) And yes, it can only mean trust. I too can't wait to see the further implications of that. But.. only 3(?) episodes to go :(

[Truth-kun]

My speculation is that Haruhi is trying to be a little subordinative to Kyon (Making his comments and suggesstions matter in the planning), compared to the early part of the Haruhi timeline. Itsuki's speech about "trust" is a hint of that.

In any rate, Yuki Nagato is really emphasized these last few episodes (Ep 7, Ep 10 and this episode mainly) revealing that she is capable of human-like emotions. I really like her because she's so cool (and maybe because she's the only character in the current series that showed her fearsome power), and side from her poker-face expression, she shows a lot of her cute side too.

[Dakota]

I'll sum it up with... "lol @ computers"

[Sinestra]

Had to give it a 10 it was damn good. I am giving it a 10 for 3 reasons. the space battle was great i thought it was really funny how each charcters personalities relflected on how their fleets and uniforms looked. First the whole talk about how Kyon and Haruhi trust each other was great, it made sense and i think it even made Kyon think a little bit more about what exactly is between Haruhi and himself. 3rd had to be Nagato not only for her super uber hacking ability but the fact that she showing more and more emotion as time passes. The look in her eyes when she was working on the computer and the happy look and moving fingers when the computer club asked to stop over sometime made me like her even more. Kudos to Kyon for stepping in and letting her make her own deicsion.

Oh yeah i totally think the SOS should just go ahead and invade the computer club and make them servents this is the second time they have lost give it up. Not to mention the super vicious drop kick from Haruhi......... I call it the Super SOS Haruhi Special Drop Kick

http://www.badongo.com/pic/215087

[arias]

Thats an interesting view.. putting herself into the shoes of the defenseless maiden-in-distress? But how would you substantiate that view? I like it, but I dont think it would apply as I did not see her giving any indication of such a mindset (it seems to me she just suggested that out of the blue), indeed, thruout the game she still maintained that I'm-the-leader-I'll-pwn-everyone attitude.


It will be somewhat substantiated in the final episode.

It's not really putting herself in a damsel in distress role; Haruhi is hardly that weak. But.................... :D

[panzerfan]

After giving a glance through GiS manga, I afraid I must conclude that there exist insufficient information on the data manipulation abilities of Nagato for me to make a final verdict on who's the clear-cut winner straight out. Mokoto is... really beyond the physical realms.

(Strange as it is, I started to get my ol' Homeworld 2 and started to relive it as my tribute to DoSIII)

[Shirobane]

(Strange as it is, I started to get my ol' Homeworld 2 and started to relive it as my tribute to DoSIII)
You know, if I weren't so immersed in EVE right now, I'd join you in bringing glory to Admiral Suzumiya and her SOS-dan. Judging by the number of posts from people inspired to take on Space RTS games, a proper army could be assembled :heh:

After watching the episode, I'd have to say that there was another emphasis this episode was focusing on, but was overshadowed by the impressive space battle, rather than accentuated by it - Haruhi and Kyon's trust within each other.

Even though Itsuki only touched on the subject briefly, it was evident in the whole "space battle" sequence, and also in the episode's resolution. During the whole game, both Haruhi and Kyon were really into the game with the way, they were reacting and everything (replaying 15:46 to 15:51 several times just to hear Haruhi say "watashi ga hakenishiteruwa yo" in a slightly pissed manner was worth it!) as well as treating the game, both seemed to share a mutual enjoyment to what they were "experiencing", be it the game or the space battle they might have thought up for themselves. Whether or not it's apparent, there really is an apparent mutual link betwen the two now, even if Kyon might (and will) fervently deny it.

Also, Haruhi letting Yuki decide for herself due to Kyon's intervention makes me believe that she allowed such a thing not only because Kyon told her to do so, but because she trusts in his decision-making.

Keeping these two things in mind, as well as the upcoming Haruhi no Yuutsu episodes, I definitely can't wait to see the emphasis on the growing connection between Haruhi and Kyon to gradually lead to the bond that they share that was shown in this episode.
There was definately an (underlying) emphasis in trust between the two characters in this episode. It also seemed that Kyon was surprised when Haruhi offered to bet herself in the contest. I'd think that Haruhi's trust in Kyon would be strengthened after the win even though Kyon really didn't do much to contribute to it. I'm quite happy that Kyoani decided to keep Yuutsu V and VI together to end off the series. It should prove to be a very strong finish for this series.

Oh and another thing, although slight, the characters in this episode were drawn much more closer to the original novels than any other episodes.

[Entropy]

Indeed that would be wonderful. Let's hope Relic get to making Homeworld 3 or even a Battlefleet Gothic game(they have some really cool ship designs and stuff in there IMO which I'd love to be able to control. Eldar ones especially) with that sort of scale.

*drools*


Hi. (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=73395)

No Homeworld 3 yet is in the making though to our knowledge, don't let the magazines fool you! :p

[Zappster]

Hi. (http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=73395)

No Homeworld 3 yet is in the making though to our knowledge, don't let the magazines fool you! :p

Cool. Page bookmarked. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

As for Homeworld 3 it's more wishful thinking on my part than any rumours I've read.

[Jazzrat]

I m surprised there isnt any Yuki fan club after this episode :p
this episode is probably the best otaku fan-service.

[C.A.]

I m surprised there isnt any Yuki fan club after this episode :p
this episode is probably the best otaku fan-service.
There's one reason why there's no Yuki clubs or any other. Its because Haruhi-sama dominates SOS-dan and all her subjects, Meaning everything falls under Haruhiism.

Worshipping any of Haruhi-sama's subjects = partly Haruhi worship = Haruhiism.

So yea, theres no need of any clubs, just the SOS-dan and Haruhiism :D

This episode isn't exactly otaku fan service, but space opera, mecha, science fiction, RTS or just strategy gaming fan service and parodies

[rooboy]

This was probably my favorite episode of the series. By a mile. I was laughing so hard throughout it that I could have cried.

[justinstrife]

I gave it a 9. It was really good, but not quite as good as the last episode. :)

[RiXeD]

Okay, so I decided to collect a list of links to freeware\shareware DoS III-style games ^^

REAL TIME BASED:

Strange Adventures In Infinite Space
Strange Adventures In Infinite Space may have a strange name, but it will be a concept that many gamers have seen before. By trading, exploring and attacking, you can make new friends and enemies from different planets.

The interface is clean and straightfoward, alllowing you to perform all these functions with little or no hassle. Visually and audiably appealing, your time in this new solar system won't be boring.

Although I am a little skeptical about the game's depth, I played for quite some time. It's quite fun, and I'm sure the full version has even more to offer.
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/4184/sais014qi.th.jpg (http://img286.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sais014qi.jpg)
Shareware
DL (http://www.tucows.com/preview/246662)

Planetary Defense
This is a space strategy game where you take charge of a planets defenses against waves of attacking aliens. you defend against missiles, multiple warhead rockets, cloaked starships, meteors, homing missiles and laser-armed satellites. Some of the 21 missions include orbiting moons with colonies, defensive shield grids, radar bases and evacuating starships.
Not quite DoS like, but seems like a good game.
http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/gam/planetarydefencess.gif (http://www.positech.co.uk/planetarydefence/images/screen1.jpg)
Shareware
DL (http://www.tucows.com/preview/305619)

GalaxyHack
This game allows you to design a fleet of spaceships that can then be tested in AI script-based battles against fleets designed by other players. Though battles take place in real time, the strategy comes before hand, both in writing short AI scripts in a simple scripting language, and also in the setup and selection of your fleet.

Hahahahahaha! I already dled this one and created SOS-dan fleet xD Nice game, but writing AI scripts for ships can be hard for a noob.

http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/gam/galaxyhackss.jpg (http://www.icewalkers.com/thumbs/th/2172.jpg)

Freeware
DL (http://www.tucows.com/preview/393809)

Gravity Well
This is a fast-paced game of interplanetary war. The game represents a simple interstellar economy that supports the discovery and conquest of new worlds. The player's role is to scout new planets and establish landing sites for the colonization ships that follow. Once a landing site is established, freighters will be dispatched to begin construction of a base and colony complex.

Beware though -- you are not alone. There are others with the same designs on this sector of space. Be prepared to fight for every stinking dirt ball.

You can play this game alone or on the network between up to four players. An Internet server helps players locate other players.

http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/gam/gravitywellss.gif (http://www.softwareengineering.com/downloads/nebula_base.jpg)
Shareware
DL (http://www.tucows.com/preview/289104)

Stellar Frontier
Stellar Frontier is a massively multi-player\Single player game that plays like an arcade game. You are in command of a single starship for a chosen civilization either offline for fun, or online on servers that act as other players' star systems. You advance in rank as you gain experience. This allows you to fly different ships, try out different weapons and command AI-powered ships.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THIS ONE! Maybe it`s not much like DoS, but it is just G-R-E-A-T!

http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/gam/stellarfrontierss.gif (http://www.os2ezine.com/20010616/ss2.jpg)

Shareware (ARGH!!! WHY?!)
DL (http://www.tucows.com/preview/280087)

TURN BASED:

Critical Mass
While this game doesn't have spectacular graphics, it is an a lot of fun moving your armada of ships through space. Enemies come from nowhere, and you have to carefully plot your missile strikes. Otherwise, you might just end up hitting your own allies!

My opinion:
Great turn based strategy, with an option to make your own ships (2D models), customize them, make your own missions and it has moderate difficulty level (you don`t need to be a war veteran to win, but you can`t just charge at enemy lol). 5\6 IMO.

http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/images/pic_crit5s.gif (http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/images/pic_crit5.gif)http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/images/pic_crit6s.gif (http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/images/pic_crit6.gif)

Shareware (Whyyyyyy?!)
DL (http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/download/CriticalMassSetup.exe)


Solar Wars
Solar Wars is a turn-based space strategy game with up to thirty orbiting planets. Starting with your home world, build up your ships and strategy. Scout out nearby worlds, send fleets of ships to attack or send annihilation bombs. Destroy opponents by setting hidden proximity bombs or pulse bombs. Play in single-player mode, with computer opponents, or in multi-player mode over the Internet. See how fast you can eliminate your opponents and dominate the entire solar system!

http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/gam/solorwarsss.jpg (http://www-s.tucows.com/i/ss/gam/solorwarsss.jpg)

Freeware
DL (http://www.tucows.com/preview/244713)


SPACE GENERAL World War IV
This space turn-based strategy game represents World War 4 conflict on tactical level.

Game contains missions, death-match and free hunt scenarios and campaigns with various unit production potential and technology level.

The user-friendly game engine allows more than 60 unit types, including planet battleships, galaxy cruisers, death-stars, stealth units, star destroyers, air-space interceptors, explorers, planet artillery and radars.

http://www.tankopoly.com/ww4/pic/mmcomb1.JPG (http://www.tankopoly.com/ww4/pic/comb1.jpg)
Freeware
DL (http://www.tankopoly.com/ww4/spacegen1a.exe)

Starships Unlimited
A turn-based strategy game of star empires and starships. Build starships and explore the stars. Find ancient alien artifacts. Meet alien races and trade with them, ally with them or fight them. Build up your worlds and defend them against other alien civilizations. Be the first to conquer the galaxy!

http://www.apezone.com/graphics/stun/thumb0.jpg (http://www.apezone.com/graphics/stun/shot0.jpg)

http://www.apezone.com/graphics/stun/thumb1.jpg (http://www.apezone.com/graphics/stun/shot1.jpg)

DEMO:
DL (http://www.apezone.com/install/stundemo.exe)

I`m sure that there are more games, so feel free to post your own links ^^


EDIT: Argh, if only Freespace2 engine could handle more units per map... >_<

[Streetor]

I just realized something.

Kyon is the only one Nagato listens to and actually asks permission to do things. She doesn't listen to Haruhi really as can be seen in episode 9 but does listen to anything Kyon will say.

Perhaps there is more to Kyon than meets the eye.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I just realized something.

Kyon is the only one Nagato listens to and actually asks permission to do things. She doesn't listen to Haruhi really as can be seen in episode 9 but does listen to anything Kyon will say.

Perhaps there is more to Kyon than meets the eye.
Kyon is also the only person who treats Nagato as a person and not furniture. So what's so strange about Yuki treating Kyon better than others?

There is no reason for Yuki to follow Haruhi's orders. Haruhi is Izumi's god, not hers. Yuki is only here to observe.

[Vexx]

To Yuki and her "people", Suzumiya is an anomoly of that organic attempt at sentience, able to generate massive changes in the datafield. They hope observation of her may illuminate their path forward evolutionarily speaking.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

To Yuki and her "people", Suzumiya is an anomoly of that organic attempt at sentience, able to generate massive changes in the datafield. They hope observation of her may illuminate their path forward evolutionarily speaking.
That's what her "people" want. That doesn't mean that's what YUKI wants.

She is only three years old. Further, Yuki's own development has hardly reached a deadend. Unlike her masters, Yuki doesn't yet need data from Haruhi to evolve.

One most separate the desires and needs of Yuki from the desires and needs of the entire DataEntity society. They are NOT the Borg.

[Anime Online]

I just realized something.

Kyon is the only one Nagato listens to and actually asks permission to do things. She doesn't listen to Haruhi really as can be seen in episode 9 but does listen to anything Kyon will say.

Perhaps there is more to Kyon than meets the eye.


My theory is that Yuki listens to Kyon because he's the only normal human being in SoS-dan. Since Yuki is an alien, she would not have a good grasp of the intricacies of human interaction. Hence she does what Kyon tells her, so she would remain inconspicious in the background and continue to observe Haruhi.

For example, in the baseball episode, when the SoS-baseball-team starts to pull an incredible winning streak due to Yuki's enchanted bat, Kyon got worried it started to look too suspicious and asked Yuki to turn off the homing mode, which she did.

And in the mysterious island episode, Yuki took Haruhi's order not to open the door too literally and refused to open the door. It was up to Kyon then to convince Yuki to open the door by overriding Haruhi's order.

Perhaps in this way, we can see that Yuki not so much listen to Kyon, but trust in his judgement of the situation.

[howzitboy]

another great episode and another 10 in my book. after reading these boards, think i have to go rewatch it again lol.
cant wait till next week...

[Truth-kun]

Next week is a good week for Haruhi fans.

I agree with Anime Online that Kyon is the most trustworthy person/alien/god/esper in Yuki's eyes, more than any of her comrades. She'll probably protect him from other aliens that tries to kill him (see Asakura).