View Full Version : Yet another dumb poll... with a twist.
Bloodseeker
2006-06-14, 20:10
Quickly glancing through one of the other poll threads, I saw someone mention that most of the big Tessa fans watched the dub first. Now that I think about, that wouldn't surprise me. Tessa's Japanese VA is nothing that stands out to me, while Hilary Haag has one of the cutest voices in the American anime industry. The voice can make all the difference in how a character is portrayed. I really hope that Funimation manages to get the original English dub's VA cast... at least both ADV and Funimation are headquartered in Texas, so that'll help in the negotiations between Funimation and FMP's original dub cast.
I'm a Tessa fan, and I saw the dub first. Tessa > Chidori in both versions though. Competent leader chicks with ditzy/goofy sides are amongst my favorite types of anime girls, while I've never had a big thing for girls that have a tendency to get violent.
Deathkillz
2006-06-14, 20:19
i saw the sub ( hates dubs ) and my fav chara has always been tessa when compared with chidori...
i like someone who i can protect and care for (tessa) instead of getting beaten up by random objects (chidori) :heh:
but i wont mind if i get both...
Bloodseeker
2006-06-14, 20:32
Have you seen the FMP dub?
Deathkillz
2006-06-15, 12:36
Have you seen the FMP dub?
erm nope :p why you ask?? ive always have a bad impression on dubs...since ive been watching subs :D
Bloodseeker
2006-06-15, 17:18
erm nope :p why you ask?? ive always have a bad impression on dubs...since ive been watching subs :D
Watch the dub. Then watch the Berserk dub. Then watch the Yu Yu Hakusho dub. Then watch Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex dub. Then watch the Cowboy Bebop dub. Then watch the Samurai Champloo dub. Several dubs blow their original Japanese tracks out of the water. You should give modern dubs a chance before you start bashing them.
Deathkillz
2006-06-15, 17:39
ill try...3 months no school = i have plenty of time to ruin my eyes XD
Missilebuster
2006-06-16, 19:12
where are these dubs coming from? i havent seen fmp on adult swim!
Bloodseeker
2006-06-16, 19:16
ill try...3 months no school = i have plenty of time to ruin my eyes XD
Good... its annoying when people watch a few older dubs and 4kids dubs and decide that all dubs suck.
where are these dubs coming from? i havent seen fmp on adult swim!
DVDs.
lana3007
2006-06-16, 21:02
I agree with you about Tessa's dub voice actually. Her japanese voice for some reason really gets on my nerves. FMP just happens to be one of the few animes that I've seen the dub version of and it's surprisingly not that bad.
But I still like Chidori better than Tessa, and I originally started watching the sub.
Mellisa Mao has always been my fave chracter I love her attitude and battles with Tessa . She also is the only one keeping kurz on a Leash :D
Miko-sama
2007-02-05, 15:39
I agree that newer dubs are better (I actually saw the FMP dub on On Demand from the Anime Network), but it is a bit irritating how they sometimes pause inappropriately in order to match their mouths with the words, so I always watch subs if I can. I have seen dubs for GitS, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop, and Full Metal Alchemist and would definitely say the Japanese seiyuu are better, but the English version is done pretty well (as opposed to Inuyasha, Naruto, or anything by 4Kids).
I suppose I really like Kaname (dub) because Satsuki Yukino is one of my favorite seiyuu, and because she's not helpless and fawning over Sousuke like Tessa does. Mao is awesome, but doesn't get enough screen time for me to bond with her.
hard choice between Tessa dub and Chidori Sub.
I can't stand Chidori dub.. The voice doesn't fit the character.. her dub soudns like she's... white(not racist, but she sounds like she's picking up on that cheerleader act)
Tessa dub is perfect though It fits the character perfectly. But as a Kaname lover. :D
I like Kana's sub better!
o and btw. Berserk has the best DUB(or one of them) the outtakes crack me up nasty.
[if uve seen it..
"da da da da da da da BATMAAANNN!!!!" ]:heh:
Yeah, I'll support the FMP dubs. Sousuke, Tessa and Chidori are doing a very good job. Since I think Chidori and Tessa are good in the dub, I'll pick Tessa, since she's my favorite character and the english dubs seem actually better than the original.
Sub: Tessa
Dub: Kaname
If I was to choose any character though, Sousuke's dub is the best.
Kaname Sub... Mao Sub... Tessa hmmmm oh my I can't choose...ok sub and dub are fine to me :heh:
Other than the fact Dubbers are below par with Seiyu , Tessa'ss voice in sub sounds angellic makes you fall in love with her voice . I am reffering to the scene where Sagara drowns and Tessa tires to kiss him I mean revive him . Sagara wakes up and says " Yes I and Tessa have a special relationship " . I am talking about Tessa reaction to that statement
Other than the fact Dubbers are below par with SeiyuThat's a huge generalisation to make.
Good... its annoying when people watch a few older dubs and 4kids dubs and decide that all dubs suck.I agree with you that not all English dubs are bad. Things have improved a lot the recent years. But my first dub experience a few years back was with DNA² anime:heh:(I think:thinker:)
AAawwwwwww gaaaawwd, you have no idea how much it made my ears bleed. Almost every dubs dating pre 2000 was like cutting my ears off.:heh:
So I kinda understand why people have this prejudice. My poor ears....:eyespin:
Sousuke's dub is the best.I agree he was quite good.
For FMP I watched the English dubs from the dvds first before I watched the Japanese ones(I think...). I can say honestly, the English Sousuke gave me a feel of his character the Japanese one couldn't top.
But for the other characters, especially side characters, their original Japanese counterparts were superior.
And I liked the voice of the original Tessa the best:D
Even more than the English Sousuke.
edit:Oh, I didn't realize there was a thread necromancy going on:heh:
dpryciak
2007-02-07, 19:24
Watch the dub. Then watch the Berserk dub. Then watch the Yu Yu Hakusho dub. Then watch Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex dub. Then watch the Cowboy Bebop dub. Then watch the Samurai Champloo dub. Several dubs blow their original Japanese tracks out of the water. You should give modern dubs a chance before you start bashing them.
Those Who Hunt Elves. A RIOT dubbed. Kinda bland subbed.
I like to play BOTH when possible. Dub and Sub, and then compare the results.
But I like Chidori dubbed....and Kyoko. Kyoko is really cute dubbed.
Hmm, maybe I should have chosen "other"
That's a huge generalisation to make.
Yep that my opnion I am entitled to one, IMO those dubbers should get real jobs . I have veiwed both and after seeing the orignal it was torture to watch dubs , maybe I associate the seiyu with resp characters .
Generalgm
2007-02-09, 02:04
heh, with me, I don't mind the dubs all that much, Each actor fits the tone of the character in my opinion, and by far, FMP is the best dubbed series I've seen
Yep that my opnion I am entitled to one, IMO those dubbers should get real jobs . I have veiwed both and after seeing the orignal it was torture to watch dubs , maybe I associate the seiyu with resp characters .
Slapping the word "opinion" on it doesn't make it okay though.
I used to think the same way and I actually gave dubs a chance. People need to stop having a biased attitude against dubs.
Believe it or not, dubbers are needed too.
I hate dubs but I dont expect you to hate them . And I never stated you shouldnt watch dubs ... But sorry I cant bring myself to love dubs . To me they are below par . Its my opnion there is absolutely no nesscity for you to follow it or abide by it .
Phantom-Takaya
2007-02-12, 09:16
I probably don't watch as much anime as most people here do anymore, but from what I can gather, the voice matching between the dub and sub of Full Metal Panic is pretty close. Almost accurate. Almost. There were a few things out there like Tessa's sub voice sounded more childish.
Now I've seen both dubbed and subbed versions and because of the voice/attitude matching between both versions, it was a hard decision. I ended up with the dub Chidori. If I could choose, I'd choose both subbed and dubbed Chidori, but since I only had one choice... I guess it's because I've gotten comfortable to hearing things in english. I'm not completely sure.
Bloodseeker
2007-02-14, 03:40
I hate dubs but I dont expect you to hate them . And I never stated you shouldnt watch dubs ...
No, but you did say that dubbers need to get real jobs. That's a bigger show of disrespect to the studios, their VAs, and their fans than just saying "don't watch dubs".
Its thanks to those subpar jokes that anime got as popular as it did in the west. Without them, we may not have even seen FMP subbed. They've done a great thing for the anime industry by popularizing it here. Show them some respect.
No, but you did say that dubbers need to get real jobs. That's a bigger show of disrespect to the studios, their VAs, and their fans than just saying "don't watch dubs".
Its thanks to those subpar jokes that anime got as popular as it did in the west. Without them, we may not have even seen FMP subbed. They've done a great thing for the anime industry by popularizing it here. Show them some respect.
That's what I was getting at when I said they were needed but you worded it so much better. :)
I really didnt want to discuss this because its off topic , If you want to continue create a New thread in Genral Section or PM me
Its thanks to those subpar jokes that anime got as popular as it did in the west. Without them, we may not have even seen FMP subbed. They've done a great thing for the anime industry by popularizing it here. Show them some respect.
Fansubbing started in 90s with VHS Tapes most of these mentioned companies never even exsisted till then .Dubbed Shows like Street Racer Robotech (80s ) introduced most of the Current Fansubbers to Anime And what great things ? increased merchandise prices , gotten richer by otaku exploitation and mainly killed a show ( One Peice ).
Do you know its these same companies delay Releases ( banning subs ) and fans have to pay more in Region 2 . And I never get one thing about these companies which do great things . Do they take us anime fans as retards ? Then why the pathetic literal translation ? or Renames ? . Do they doubts our intelligence so as to belive we cant learn 2,3 new Japanese words per show ? . Kids ... kids have more language skill then adults .
So why do these Companies without doing absolutely no Market research decide literal translations are best for us . Thanks to these companies I have to pay more for my Bleach FMA Naruto Merchandise .
pothead21
2007-02-19, 15:31
ive seen both of the va, i like the subbed better...
krysinello
2007-06-01, 08:01
I personally prefer the dub of a lot of things, I prefer the dub of FMP, Orphen, Evangelion but there are alot of bad dubs out there that cry for me to hit the audio button.
I like Chidori's dub the best.
hobbes_fan
2007-06-01, 13:44
I'm sick of Chris Patten. Chris Patten=Spike Spencer of this era of anime. In bloody everything. Hillary Haag always does a good job if she's doing the right character(She didn't work for me in Chrono Crusade), vocally the same style as the seiyuu. So both work for me.Allison Keith's husky voice was more or less spot on for the character IMO. I can''t remember who the seiyu was for Mao but her voice was quite unusual, she did have a bitchy tone but it didn't seem right to me for what I imagined a battle hardened marine would sound like.
the Fumoffu dub is badly butchered though.
Ren Mikihara FTW
ArkhanTheBlack
2007-06-04, 12:50
I saw the dub and I'm a definite fan of Hilary Haag. She has the most beautifull voice from all english, japanese and german voice actresses I know. ( I'm even a member of her fan club. ;) )
Though Tessa would be my favorite character even if Hilary Haag would not have been her english voice. I always had a crush for pretty girls with white hair and I just love her smart but also cute and needy character.
Though, if Hilary Haag would have been the dub of Kaname, it would have gotten difficult for me to decide :upset:...
But I also like Kanames voice actress Lucy Christian. Together with Tiffany Grant, she's second on my list of favorite english voice actresses.
Although I voted for Tessa, I also like Kaname a lot. She can be really cute if she isn't in Sousuke bashing mood. Actually she's third on my list of favorite female anime characters after Tessa and Pirotess (from Lodoss) which share place 1 and 2.
hahaha subs are owning dubs.
but seriously whats with all this arguing??? both options are out there, can't we just stick with what we personally like and skip the claiming of superiority???
Tessa was real good in the dub, but Kaname's dub voice annoys me, especially in TSR. Kaname's Japanese voice actor really got the emotional impact down, a prime example is TSR Episode 9. Subbed Kaname has my vote.
I don't like to compare subs and dubs though, both have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. It's just me though. :p
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