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Catgirls
2006-07-03, 07:51
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Omniscient
2006-07-03, 21:58
Episode 14 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/07/03/utawarerumono-14/)
This episode was comprised mostly of fighting, but the animation style was different. Not bad different, but good different. Lots of fast movements and body parts flying.
And here comes ep. 14. This anime is going pretty fast.
ImperialPanda
2006-07-03, 23:30
Was it animation-intern-day for the first half of the episode? =P
They tried a new style of drawing >_> XD Omg...
XD
Animation-intern-day XD I guess so... Although I can't say that I don't like an anime who varies between styles... One great example would be the Animatrix and even Noein. They constantly vary animation-wise, but still are great...
The story in this episode is superb. 9/10.
Yey finally touka joins the harem
All the best fighers are in his armies already.....Anyway who is that Male feather guy?
I wouldn't want it to be a Harem since Hakuoro is a MONSTER!!!
Renegade334
2006-07-04, 11:24
All the best fighers are in his armies already.....Anyway who is that Male feather guy?
He's supposed to be a very important character due to his...nature or hidden link to Hakuoro.
If you're not deterred by spoilers, go to the Q&A Spoiler section and dig around. The answer is there and you'll just have to piece things together. 'Nuff said.
BTW, I've heard people exclaim 'he's already there? WTF?' Is it too soon compared to the game's timeline or what? Knowing *what* he is...
Hakuoro isn't a monster, he's an emo kid XD
...and Batman o___O;;
And I think one of the reasons they may have changed the style was to make the fighting scenes more fluid, ne?
>_>
no no... The animation changed because it was "test-the-interns-day" XD
Renegade334
2006-07-04, 13:55
From Omni's site, among the comments:
I heard it was one time change, and actually new guys did only 1st part(scene bofore title and after title to intermission) of the episode. the 2nd part(after intermission) was done by OLM team Iwasa itself. After this episode, team Iwasa should stay involved all the way.
New guys are actually top guns of former “Shuffle!” production team. While you look at the screanshots they might look somewhat odd, in the motion, it looks quite brilliant, and extremely dynamic.
So, there.
I didn't notice at first but it did change. The animation I mean.
Okay, I finally saw the ep a couple of hours ago. The animation was pretty nice. They all looked a tad skinner too, less big, chubby-ish. So it didn't really look good on the guys but for the girls, they made them look cuter :X
I don't think they should've made that transition back to the old style in the second half. They should've just went with the new animation the whole ep through since they've already started off with it.
Well after watching that episode I found that the animation was kind of distracting. Although the 'intern' animators did a good job, especially with the fighting scenes, when compared to what we've been seeing for 13+ episodes, it just bothers me a lot because of the differences in body size, etc. :P
Overall a decent episode, good fighting scenes, and it's good to see Touka finally joined Hakuoro. :D
Niue's cackle sounds so very broken <shudder>, I hope he'll drop dead next episode. ^^
I realize most people are being sarcastic when they say "intern animators", but I couldn't help myself but to clearfy this.
The man responsible for first half of episode 14, Naoto Hosoda, is in no way a intern or an amature.
He's known for well animated smooth animation, with signature style that may look less detail than others.
In case of animation, most value animation over "well drawn still pictures".
The first half of episode 14 was amazingly well done, but because his style is very distinct, having him as guest causes inconsitency with rest of the series.
Animator with similar style but even more well known, Norio Matsumoto, has the same problem.
Awesome animation, but so unique in style that it looks totatlly diffrent from other episodes. :)
Norio Matsumoto animation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnmLwYDE0us)
Takemi_Ikazuchi
2006-07-05, 12:58
he has noticeable flaws.. very dynamic animation but his still frames look as if they came from Musashi Gundou
His style is affectionately/sarcastically called Velka style animation (ref: Nanoha A's)
yes, quite a lot of people like it..... IN SMALL DOSES.... :p
he has noticeable flaws.. very dynamic animation but his still frames look as if they came from Musashi Gundou
His style is affectionately/sarcastically called Velka style animation (ref: Nanoha A's)
yes, quite a lot of people like it..... IN SMALL DOSES.... :p
Um...... no.
The infamous "Velka style" animation is Yoshinari Saitou.
Hosoda was NOT involved in Nanoha A's oddball animation whatsoever.
Takemi_Ikazuchi
2006-07-05, 16:39
It's not? I could have sword that turning back angle from Nanoha was awfully familiar.
I stand corrected, but my sentiments remain.
highfive
2006-07-06, 23:16
I havent even seen 13, how is everyone managing to be 2 episodes ahead of me???
you probably dont watch raws that's why :p
BTW, I've heard people exclaim 'he's already there? WTF?' Is it too soon compared to the game's timeline or what? Knowing *what* he is...
About 7 or so episodes too soon, can't remember exactly when he showed up in the game but it was very late. Not that the anime has anything to do with the game timeline at this point.
Renegade334
2006-07-07, 02:55
And what was his name, again?
Dii or something like that, right?
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-07-07, 10:53
Wow, the character designs for the first half were really--how should I say this?--ugly. Even something as simple as Eruruu talking seemed way off. I liked the animation of a thousand arrows reaching their target but the rest looked to bizzare for my tastes.
Impressive, i can't wait for sub version:D
ImClueless
2006-07-12, 01:06
Woo episode 14 by Yesy is out! They are catching up :D
:D Awesome stuff, easily the best animated action so far.
Finally watched the fansub. I was forewarned of the different artstyle, but man, it still took me by surprise. While... the animation was more fluid, the characters were just downright distorted, especially for the unnamed soldiers.
One thing I did like about the first half's animation compared to the second half's one, was that they were less restrained in showing guts and gore. Limbs were rended, intenstines were spilled, bodies were actually split into two. By comparison, the second half's fights were very tame( although more stylish( well, for Touka at least)).
If the animation had not changed to the new style, I would have given this episode at least a 9, but as it is, the different artstyle just threw me off-track and broke the immersion factor. So I can only rate this episode an 8, for the ramping up of the tension factor and the poignant moments( brief as they were).
One other high point for me was that they showed a substantial amount of Touka slicing stuff. As my favourite character from Utawarerumono, any episode that has her in the spotlight gets a cookie point from me. :D
Cheers.
Wow looks like yesy is on a run. This thread is just whetting my appetite for this episode, what with talk about the guest animator and new style of animation. With all the different viewpoints, no idea what to expect, but I hope I won't be dissapointed; I can't wait. :) Will he by any chance be doing more episodes?
Wow looks like yesy is on a run. This thread is just whetting my appetite for this episode, what with talk about the guest animator and new style of animation. With all the different viewpoints, no idea what to expect, but I hope I won't be dissapointed; I can't wait. :) Will he by any chance be doing more episodes?
I dear hope to god not. It was so ugly, especially the way he drew Hakuoro as a skinny cancer patient, really puts me off. I was already so happy with the cute girls and brawny hunks since the start of the series, but this new style ruined my hopes!
And those bloodless limbs flying everywhere was more humourous than slapstick humour. I mean, if you're gonna deliver gore, there's gotta be as much blood as there is decapitated bodies, like GANTZ for example. So if only he would've drawn more bloodworks in those fighting scenes, it'd have looked much better. Other than that, I hope again to god that he hauls his ass back to Shuffle lol.
Deathkillz
2006-07-12, 07:45
woohoo at last they are picking up the pace :D *downloads*
Very good episode. This is the answer to my prayers for this series. Keep this up, and UtaMono is going to own.
As for the animation, I didnt feel that there was a VERY big difference in charcter styles, they were a little different, yes, Hakuoro was slimmer, so was Eruruu's face for the matter, plus her pinched lips (for that matter, everyone seemed skinnier), but I didnt mind that as it was quite acceptable. What was important tho was that the animation and fighting was :love:. Very very fluid and even tho they were moving so fast, much of the detail still came off. If this was due to the guest animator, I'm hoping for more of him.
I agree that the unnamed soldiers were weirdly drawn, especially faces, but it never struck me as ugly. I think people are overreacting about it. I mean, it didnt affect the story and overall feel, why bother? Watch Samurai 7 if you want ugly. Then again, I've never been one to notice much about animation styles.
I didnt particularly find the flying limps funny, dont know why they should be :p :) But seriously, fights in this episode were really some of the best; the way they moved, starting from Touka's attempted suicide until the end of the ep, was just so well drawn. And Karura = :love: I liked her entrance in battle, the way she was swinging that stick.
I liked this episode so much because I felt that there was finally some progression in everything. It appears Yue is trying to create a "special" army and wants to harness whats in Hakuoro. And Hakuoro sallies forth, whether to defeat him, or to be defeated and used. Finally.
Even the emo factor, or rather how they showed the great cost of peasants life and again Hakuoro's guilt. I however, have to complain about something.
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5701/snapshot20060712212133bmp4li.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060712212133bmp4li.jpg)
Erh... Did anyone else laugh at the "All time high?" Honestly it felt like he was referring to stock prices or giving the weather report :heh:
thundrakkon
2006-07-12, 10:02
I guess the talk of this episode will have to be the animation, since they mostly fought in the episode.
The animation flowed nicely; however, I feel it is more of a detraction from the series, since it felt out of place. I did not like the distorted faces. What made the animation in this series so special is the detailed facial expression the usual animators did (Eruruu's expressions are always priceless, as well as Aruruu's).
The unusually large "bobblehead" design on the skinny bodies really irked me as well. The body parts flying also felt out of place, and as gorgana mentioned, the lack of blood made them feel like mannequins getting cut up.
Overall, it was an entertaining episode with nice fluid fighting in the first half, and Touka's awesome fight sequence in the second half.
So Hakuoro took his 2 best fighters with him on his assassination mission. Well, I guess he can't go anywhere unless he takes half of his harem with him...
Deathkillz
2006-07-12, 11:07
i didnt like the new animation at the start...face distorted and the body looks wierd...and since when did this series begin to show the decapitation of body parts? up til now weve only seen ppl getting stabbed but not whole arms being ripped off...it changes the impression of this series =.= i kida like it but at the same time i dnt like it...wierd :/
anyway it was pretty interesting to see how touka (sp?) changed to hakuoro's side...hes building up a pretty big harem :D
Renegade334
2006-07-12, 11:26
...and since when did this series begin to show the decapitation of body parts? up til now weve only seen ppl getting stabbed but not whole arms being ripped off...it changes the impression of this series =.= i kida like it but at the same time i dnt like it...wierd :/
Just wait till you see ep15. That was the normal animation crew working on it and, well...just watch the
Hakuoro vs. Niwe duel
and weep about 'lost innocence'.:heh:
I'm of the other view actually, I was actually hoping for more gory depictations of the battles. The slash, leave a bloodline, and they somehow die just doesn't cut it. Not that the other extreme would be any better of course, but somewhere in the middle ground where you know, you occasionally see a hand chopped off or something.
Episode 14 had some of the best battle scenes i've seen upto now in the series, mainly thanks to Hakuoro at Touka. Also, some of the new music brought into this episode was a nice listen, especially the tune played as Touka walked into the main hall.
As for the new style of animation that only lasted half the episode - it was nice and all, but deep down i'm happy it went back to its original style.. the Uta' style. ^^
Next episode seems like it'll be even more interesting to watch.. can't wait to find out who the winged guy is.
JerseyDevil
2006-07-12, 12:59
I don't really wanna get into the animation debate, because it's pretty much based on personal preference. In my opinion, I wish they'd keep this new animator throughout the remainder of the series. The battles look much smoother and more dynamic, however character designs suffer abit.
Anyway, I have one question: Why is Hakuoro taking Eruruu into all these battles? She's useful as a medic, but why take her into the frontlines like that?
Xellos-_^
2006-07-12, 14:16
I don't really wanna get into the animation debate, because it's pretty much based on personal preference. In my opinion, I wish they'd keep this new animator throughout the remainder of the series. The battles look much smoother and more dynamic, however character designs suffer abit.
Anyway, I have one question: Why is Hakuoro taking Eruruu into all these battles? She's useful as a medic, but why take her into the frontlines like that?
Mana recharge :D
You know.. i was waiting for a comment like that. >_>
Idle Eve
2006-07-12, 15:01
So Hakuoro took his 2 best fighters with him on his assassination mission. Well, I guess he can't go anywhere unless he takes half of his harem with him...
Whenever I'm watching the anime, I try to put myself in Hakuoro's position. What would I do on a mission like this...
And frankly and embarassingly, I'd do the exact same thing.
Don't kill me. I'm a Touka and Karura fan.
Kisuke06
2006-07-12, 15:22
OMG! Animation totaly sucked. But at least in the preview for the next episode the animation looked fine. But it was a good epsiode. Some of the battle scenes was very good, I especially liked the scene when Touka came to help Hakuoro.
Maybe I'm alone in this opinion, but I liked many of the action scenes in the first half of episode 14. The clips such as the one with Crow slicing up regulars, gave a real sense of motion and action in the fight that Utawarerumono lacks frequently. The part where Karura offers Crow sake and licks her lips as she walks offscreen had me in stitches.
I find the unique guest style of animation in the first half of this episode far preferable to the studio filling the action scenes by using the same tired old recycled clips of Hakuoro's lizard tail swiping a solder then fan clubbing the next guy.
Don't kill me. I'm a Touka and Karura fan.
And who isn't? :D
Hakuoro is smarter than i thought. If he lose the war, he can pretty much escape easily with his two best bodyguards and hottest harem-members, to constroy a new harem in another place. ;)
Maybe I'm alone in this opinion, but I liked many of the action scenes in the first half of episode 14. The clips such as the one with Crow slicing up regulars, gave a real sense of motion and action in the fight that Utawarerumono lacks frequently. The part where Karura offers Crow sake and licks her lips as she walks offscreen had me in stitches.
No, you're not alone. I liked the action scenes too. But i still prefer the original animation to this one.
Anyway this episode was fantastic. Hakuoro keeps increasing his coolness, showing how smart and great tactian he is. :D
God, i'm dying to see in the next episode he thrusting many times his tensen in the face of that i'm-bad-i-eat-babies-and-i-laugh-like-a-crazy-man emperor Yue! :mad:
Sorrow-K
2006-07-12, 20:03
I won't bother spending too much time dwelling on the animation, it's been discussed enough. I will say that they clearly sacrificed art for fluent motion, but it's not a sacrifice I think should be made too frequently... particularly in scenes where there's hardly any motion.
I'm not liking the direction this show is going in. The pacing has gone from brisk to relentless, and I'm concerned that the characters are going to come off second best because of it. The plot isn't bad without being brilliant, but the characters are starting to get neglected. These are the exact same warning signs that F/SN put up, and I'm going to be so horribly disappointed if Uta doesn't learn from DEEN's mistakes before it. There also seems to be a neglect in atmosphere... Uta seems to be convinced that the plot can create the atmosphere by itself and it just isn't working. That's two out of the big three components of plot, characters and atmosphere which haven't been firing of recent. As far as characters are concerned, it's really only been Hakuoro and, to a lesser extent, Eruruu, who've done anything profound of late. The rest of the cast have fallen into rather device-ish roles, which is a pity becuase Hakuoro just can't be expected to carry this story alone.
I had high hopes for this titles, but there are cracks starting to appear which signify there's somewhat of a chance that it's not going to deliver. That'd be a huge pity, IMO. Hakuoro's too good a character to be wasted on a mediocre story.
Toonleap
2006-07-12, 21:33
I won't bother spending too much time dwelling on the animation, it's been discussed enough. I will say that they clearly sacrificed art for fluent motion, but it's not a sacrifice I think should be made too frequently... particularly in scenes where there's hardly any motion.
I'm not liking the direction this show is going in. The pacing has gone from brisk to relentless, and I'm concerned that the characters are going to come off second best because of it. The plot isn't bad without being brilliant, but the characters are starting to get neglected. These are the exact same warning signs that F/SN put up, and I'm going to be so horribly disappointed if Uta doesn't learn from DEEN's mistakes before it. There also seems to be a neglect in atmosphere... Uta seems to be convinced that the plot can create the atmosphere by itself and it just isn't working. That's two out of the big three components of plot, characters and atmosphere which haven't been firing of recent. As far as characters are concerned, it's really only been Hakuoro and, to a lesser extent, Eruruu, who've done anything profound of late. The rest of the cast have fallen into rather device-ish roles, which is a pity becuase Hakuoro just can't be expected to carry this story alone.
I had high hopes for this titles, but there are cracks starting to appear which signify there's somewhat of a chance that it's not going to deliver. That'd be a huge pity, IMO. Hakuoro's too good a character to be wasted on a mediocre story.
Well, I think you should consider something about Utaware:
They are working on a tight budget, and with a 26 episodes span, I think the writers are trying their best to compile the story, and based on a game that takes several hours or days to finish, I think they are doing a good job. Of course it is a pity to sacrifice some character development and twists and turns and interaction between the characters. Even "Lord of the Rings" with its huge budget had to sacrifice some things, and still it is a good trilogy...but there are still 11 episodes left so lets give them a chance. Besides, there are many people who still enjoys the show and who knows, the popularity can change the course of things.
Fate Stay Night somehow lost some steem in the middle or almost ending the show. Utaware is gaining more and more force and the animation and story still keeps people interested.
In the OP, you can see the villains and different characters that are appearing in progress in the story. There are a couple of characters that still have to appear in the series so there must be plenty of character development. Lets hope so.
If the writers do a good job and wrap everything right, without loose ends, Utaware should become one of the best anime series in recent history and can become a classic...if not, you can always play the game.
Thats my personal opinion....:) ...Everything you said has a good point of view, and I agree with most of the things you said.
Orchunter226
2006-07-12, 22:37
I liked the fluent animation during the fight scenes - it was awesome - but during normal dialogue scenes it was lacking.
As for the story: Well it is picking up and I'm really starting to enjoy it more. I also wish that they could include a little more character development, but they still have time for that. And right now it seems to be concentrated on the war. Only so much you can put into 20+ mins. Oh well, let's see how things turn out.
I'm not delighted with the drastic shift on the animation, but surprisingly the staff managed to make it effective.
It had its ups and downs particularly in those close-up shots on the people. Their faces and bodies look lanky and squalid, resembling mannequins. But in itself this shift detailed the shock and instinctive reactions of the victims and the attackers; much expressed how crude and fiery the hell was raging upon experiencing it.
Shikerepechim's manner on pushing hard on Tusukuru's defenses tells whole on Yue's style of government and his personality. Keep on charging day in and day out without rest, since the enemy are weaker and they (Shikerepechim) are the strongest; go on with power.
Yue had coldly planned as to put pressure on Hakuoro for the inevitable war casualties and the high body count, and it's working because Hakuoro nearly snapped in rage and grief as the guilt goes on building within him.
If it wasn't for Eruruu's company to console him and staying by his side, Hakuoro would have wallowed in self-pity and shut himself from the rest of the world.
My impression on Touka, upon the misfortune of being forced to skip episode 13, that she's Benawi's counterpart when comes to swordsmanship, though her is sophisticated and battles with finesse on her technique.
It was a marvelous sight to behold on Touka taking down a myriad of Shikerepechim soldiers with several spinning slashes, performed all at once; a graceful attack.
Hakuoro and forces had no way to predict what would be the outcome: attacking the enemy's homeland head on results on the main forces neglecting defenses in Tusukuru, leaving an open spot for incoming enemy forces to raid Tusukuru from all directions; persisting only in defensive and trap tactics to lure out and ensnared the enemies, and they won't provoke enough casualties on the enemy's main forces rather will leave them stresed out and exhausted, mentally and physically drained; dividing forces as for one to stay on defending the borders while the other embarks on a sneak ambush to raid Shikerepechim, I think that was what Yue was looking forward to and patiently anticipates for Hakuoro's arrival.
Sorrow-K
2006-07-13, 01:02
If the writers do a good job and wrap everything right, without loose ends, Utaware should become one of the best anime series in recent history and can become a classic...if not, you can always play the game.If not, can always play the game doesn't change the fact that "if not" = "anime failed". It's the excuse fans of F/SN used to defend the anime, but it still didn't change the fact that the F/SN anime was underwhelming, particularly when compared with the game. I hope the same doesn't turn out with Utawarerumono, but there are things I've seen from the last two episodes in particularly that make me begin to think it could turn out that way.
O well there's always the game ... doesn't work for me either. I take anime on its own. If it depends on you being intimate with the game then they've failed (*cough* Disgaea *cough*).
So I'm also concerned about the shallowing in character development. But we still have a lot of episodes to go so I'm not panicking just yet. Right now my main sarcastic comment is that its easier to slack on character development when you keep killing off the characters as fast as you can.
They are sacrificing a good amount of character development to get the entire story in 26 episodes. They did say they wanted to focus on the more serious aspects of Utaware, and unfortunately, a lot of the character development are done using comedy in the game. Even though I would've liked more comedy/character development, at least the adaptation team knows what they are doing and are creating a solid piece by focusing on a few things rather than trying to cram everything in at once. Let's hope the 2nd box for Utaware also comes with a comedy episode as I am very much looking forward to the extra episode in the 1st box.
Is that the three disc box you're talking about zalas?
Hope so, 'cause i've got it on my orders. ^^;
FatPianoBoy
2006-07-14, 09:52
The sudden shift in animation can be likened to not-yet-dry oil painting getting a firehose turned on it. Looked good for a while, then suddenly sucked. Oh well, the topic's been beaten to death already, so that's all I'll say about it.
Otherwise, this episode was a significant upgrade from the last. Glad I stuck with it. I thought the sudden emphasis on gore was a bit odd, but not a big complaint. Plot's picking back up, too. Definitely liking that. Looking forward to the last-ditch-effort in the next episode.
The series as a whole, however, is suffering from a disturbing lack of Kamyu. If there's one thing that can offset even the animation, it's more Kamyu.
Toonleap
2006-07-14, 10:34
The series as a whole, however, is suffering from a disturbing lack of Kamyu. If there's one thing that can offset even the animation, it's more Kamyu.
Dont worry about Kamyu...You will see her a lot in the next episodes....She plays an important role in the series...:)
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-07-14, 10:44
Speaking of Kamyu, did anyone notice that Karura's bust size mysteriously overtook hers in this episode? I have proof (never mind that this montage makes fun of Oboro).
I'm sorry that's it's on yousendit, but photobucket is currently under maintenance so I'll upload it some time later.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=46F8971479FAAA40
FatPianoBoy
2006-07-14, 10:46
I suspected that may be. Black wings doesn't seem like a common thing, and different (and probably spoilerish) scenes in the intro were what tipped me off. Hence, I was kinda surprised when she was almost immediately shoved to the side after making an exceptionally l33t entrance.
Thank you, Toonleap. I shall now sleep better at night for having been told that more Kamyu awaits :D
KaneDragon
2006-07-14, 16:18
Speaking of Kamyu, was Mukuru mentioned at all in this episode? What's the hueg tiger going to be doing? =/
He's a Tanker.. KD's got a point, haven been seeing much of Mukuru really fighting, I would love more of that.
Speaking of Kamyu, was Mukuru mentioned at all in this episode? What's the hueg tiger going to be doing? =/
They forgot about Mukuru, I think. That, or Mukuru been too busy off to the side licking its (Censored). :heh:
But I suppose they'll now be making more use of the characters, now that it finally appears that Hakuoro will up & confront Emperor Yue "Ka Ka Ka" dude. But, being that there will supposably be different parties, animation story perspective, as I would expect is going to be probably jumping between one and the other.
evil-samurai
2006-07-15, 00:38
Dont worry about Kamyu...You will see her a lot in the next episodes....She plays an important role in the series...Yea! more Kamyu is always good, then again nearly all the characters in Utawarerumono are interesting and awesome, so I dont mind which characters they focus on more, although... I always love! to see more of Karura swinging her sword around :D
Toonleap
2006-07-15, 01:05
Yea! more Kamyu is always good, then again nearly all the characters in Utawarerumono are interesting and awesome, so I dont mind which characters they focus on more, although... I always love! to see more of Karura swinging her sword around :D
All characters are important...Shame that the 26 episodes does not allow to fully show a character development between the characters...Still there is hope as We still have 10 episodes....
I am playing the game and watching the anime at the same time and there is an arc where Hakuoro should free Karura´s country....NaTunc (I believe it is her country)...and there is a nice character development and relationship between Hakuoro and Karura, hope they show it...and in the OP, in the villains, the ruler of Natunc appears so it is probably this arc will be shown...Of course, thats a supposition...:)...If there any mistake I wrote here, please correct me as I know japanese but reading it, I can hardly do that...but I am having fun playing the game...The PS2 version of "utaware" is fully voiced by the original seiyuus of the anime so it is going to be cool...
and I must agree with some people...We need a little bit more comedy and peaceful but entertaining moments...I know it is a war drama, but some comedy and MORE character development would be nice as well...
Ugh... Did the animation die or something? I thought I needed glasses for a second. I hope they don't repeat that again, although most anime have one or two episodes where animation quality seems to drop. And what's with the sudden display of gore, sliced hands flying around and whatever?
Oh well, at least the plot is advancing, and it's interesting, but they should get their animators back :p
Renegade334
2006-07-15, 10:43
Ugh... Did the animation die or something? I thought I needed glasses for a second. I hope they don't repeat that again, although most anime have one or two episodes where animation quality seems to drop. And what's with the sudden display of gore, sliced hands flying around and whatever?
Oh well, at least the plot is advancing, and it's interesting, but they should get their animators back :p
Read the first pages of this thread - the staff just happened to have guests among the animators and the first half was handled by those one-time partners. Hence different (fugly, yes) drawing style - though with sleek animation at moments.
Yes I did read it, but I had to comment regarding the drawing style again :p
Sinestra
2006-07-15, 19:12
well the shit has really hit the fan i will give up it for Haruoko for the tatics he used what do you do when your out number like the answer is lead their army in close and then strike the neck when there over confident. I too have noticed the drop in the animation but as long as the story goes well i can live with it. Heres my my question why the hell did they take Eruruu on that mission at the end?
I really want to know who guy with the white wings are anybody playing game with some hints around
Xellos-_^
2006-07-15, 21:08
Heres my my question why the hell did they take Eruruu on that mission at the end?
Mana Recharge :D
didn't i answer this already :eyebrow:
so many flying body parts courtesy of karura :heh:
Sinestra
2006-07-15, 21:40
Mana Recharge :D
didn't i answer this already :eyebrow:
SOrry Xellos i didnt see your previous post
I hope that they didn't spend their whole animation budget to the first half of the series. Good episode with some great Touka action.
Even though the quality seemed to drop, it really didn't, in fact, IMO, it was better. Animation was more fluid for the battle scenes, and more violent too 8D It was better than seeing rehashed scenes over and over IMO. The style kinda reminds me of GAINAX's work or something.
I'm an artist myself so I like the different style more. It's more original. Generic anime styles= bleh unoriginal :/
Though if they went with that style for the 1st half of the episode, they should've went with it for the rest. Cos jumping from one style to another seems a bit awkward if you ask me
Yay someone else who likes the animation style.. it has been getting too much flak imho :(
Angela Sanctisstessa
2006-07-17, 11:22
i would rather see a little weirdish artstyle for a fluid motion...but yea...the gore that the Shuffle! top guns did was good
Forgive me if it's already been posted but oh my dear god, this is so much geek and awesome in one package :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CDZxTbgGRY
Forgive me if it's already been posted but oh my dear god, this is so much geek and awesome in one package :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CDZxTbgGRY
Oh man, that is brilliant.:heh:
Let's see them duplicate the same fluidity that Hakuoro got in his 5 second battle sequence.:eyespin:
Forgive me if it's already been posted but oh my dear god, this is so much geek and awesome in one package :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CDZxTbgGRY
My god, that was awesome XD!
Marine-RX179
2006-07-18, 19:21
Forgive me if it's already been posted but oh my dear god, this is so much geek and awesome in one package :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CDZxTbgGRY
Seen that before already...and it's the best work by the guy so far detail wise. But I think the Suzumiya Haruhi episode 02 that he did with the gundam models is the most hilarious :D
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