Second Term Episode 14 Discussion [Archive]

Catgirls

2006-07-08, 13:55

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Deathkillz

2006-07-08, 14:35

last eps :( im gona miss this series...again...hope they go out with a bang ^^

ZhangKhaiEn

2006-07-08, 18:15

But they are going to make OVA's right? And what about season 3?

Matt Soulblade

2006-07-08, 19:13

Are you guys sure that this will be the last one?

Freeter

2006-07-08, 19:25

26 eps. Confirmed here (http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/contents/school-rumble/story_in_14-.html).

Seems like they're going to try and conclude it...

ZhangKhaiEn

2006-07-08, 20:09

26 eps. Confirmed here (http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/contents/school-rumble/story_in_14-.html).

Seems like they're going to try and conclude it...
But that's the first season (一学期).. Second season (二学期) is here (http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/contents/school-rumble/story_in.html). It's only up to 13.. which is weird since we have ep. 14 right here >_>

Freeter

2006-07-08, 21:52

Heh, didn't see the date :heh:

ANN lists 26, and the screens from 14 seem to be following the manga (at this point, if it ended here it would be inconclusive to Harima and Eri). Plus the rumor of a new ED with this ep, if that's true then we're getting a full season.

kenjiharima

2006-07-09, 00:01

But they are going to make OVA's right? And what about season 3?

Remember back on episode 13 when Harima was being huanted, he mention "SAN-GAKKI" or 3rd term. We can hope for a new OAV or series or better a movie!! :)

hi no ken Jebus

2006-07-09, 22:04

I liked this episode a whole lot. The Tenma party was hilarious especially Akira's cosplay, and Tenma teasing Mikoto. The Harima and Yakumo stuff at dankosha was cute although it felt a little rushed. Harima as Karasuma was kind of scary:heh:. I loved all the cameos they threw in like Ashita no Joe, Hokuto no Ken, and even some Love Hina. The after the credits part was funny as well with more Lala,Tougou, Harry, Ichijou and Imadori hijinks+ Mai and Nishimoto. Overall good episode although your mileage may vary, next time more of Harima's hijinks with the manga.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4066/sr140zs.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr140zs.jpg)

biomy

2006-07-09, 23:30

i couldn't tell what was going on but it was quite a riceball episode, and oddly enough the flag section isn't developing so much but i guess that's going down from the play episode and i did like the hokuto no ken throw-in

Truth-kun

2006-07-09, 23:36

last eps :( im gona miss this series...again...hope they go out with a bang ^^

There is an episode 15 preview on school-rumble.net

So I'm sure Ni Gakki will push through at least 24 episodes. (I haven't heard of an anime stopping at 15-23)

kenjiharima

2006-07-10, 00:39

Not even Eri got this close ^_^
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/onigiri_yakumoxharima.jpg

Swampstorm

2006-07-10, 13:32

It's great to see that SR is slowly getting back on track.

I've always liked this part of the storyline. Based on the perceptions that I've been reading, I can tell that I'm going to have fun observing people's reactions over the upcoming weeks. :p

Not even Eri got this close ^_^
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/onigiri_yakumoxharima.jpg

You're absolutely correct. Eri never got that close. Instead, she got much, much closer. :D
http://xs103.xs.to/xs103/06281/122222.png (http://xs.to)

Deathkillz

2006-07-10, 17:34

Not even Eri got this close ^_^
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/onigiri_yakumoxharima.jpg

woo hoo! get in there yakumo :D looks like im gona enjoy this eps when i get it ;)

ZhangKhaiEn

2006-07-10, 18:30

You're absolutely correct. Eri never got that close. Instead, she got much, much closer. :D True, true, but Yakumo and Kenji's position was much MUCH more suggestive and "awkward" than Eri's xD

Truth-kun

2006-07-10, 19:41

Whoa! A very good episode, to kickstart the Christmas Arc!

This is a way good episode. It has almost everything in it, from the tried and tested SR comedy (Tenma's party), to the long awaited Onigiri scenes. I was laughing my arse off the whole episode, including the part where Harima became Karasuma to fool the editor. So I thought the episode would stop at the gift giving scene, but theres more! The funny bomb-passing (I dunno what the game was called), where Nara became a woman (again in the manga, for the first time in the anime), Akira became a fish and Eri became a baldy. Seriously, I was laughing my ass off the whole time! Harry fans have a reason to rejoice too, he has decent airtime in this episode! And he's so damn cool.

I really do think that this is the part where Yakumo finally realized what it meant to fall in love. I'm not sure what was really the dialogue was after the "Imouto-san, do you think this is wrong?" (the dialogue I'm talking about is the one Yakumo was talking about "first time" and there are pink romance thingies in the background).

I think Yakumo finally felt something close to "romantic love" for Harima on that scene.

I gave this a perfect 10. I know I know, too lenient, but its sure worth it.

Moogster

2006-07-10, 21:41

Christmas Arc --> Omai Arc? HE HE HE. This WILL be good. :D

kenjiharima

2006-07-11, 03:39

True, true, but Yakumo and Kenji's position was much MUCH more suggestive and "awkward" than Eri's xD

You took the words right out of my mouth! :D
Eri and Harima where seen by many people, but Yakumo and Harima where alone, that makes it more intimate. And by the way look at my sig Harima is the one hugging Yakumo! :p

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/SR_nigaki15.jpg

Truth-kun

2006-07-11, 04:54

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/SR_nigaki15.jpg

Probably the last of the onigiri scenes :(

kenjiharima

2006-07-11, 05:16

Probably the last of the onigiri scenes :(

Ohhh...sobs..T_T. Well there's always the manga! I can still hope for Onigiri/ Kids meal in the future. KJ im gonna kick your ass my head is spinning!! :eyespin:

ZhangKhaiEn

2006-07-11, 10:52

@kenjiharima: What ep are those vidcaps (from your sig) from? I don't watch the anime much.. ^_^;;

Also, I don't see why the SR anime team would stop producing eps. Unless its popularity has gone stagnant in Japan?

In any case, us fans still have the manga to turn to~

Turambar

2006-07-11, 11:00

I'm onigiri again...curse my changing self on whatever the development for harima's love interest is (cept for tenma/harima, eewww).

Great ep in any case, one of my fav chaps put on the screen. The entire manga part is just hilarious, though yakumo could've used a bit more blushing :D

On a different note, why did the pocky have to break! WHYYYYY!

Swampstorm

2006-07-11, 16:32

True, true, but Yakumo and Kenji's position was much MUCH more suggestive and "awkward" than Eri's xD
Onigiri scenes are always suggestive. The substance of the interaction is far more important, however. In the Onigiri scene, Yakumo and Harima are discussing practical issues concerning the manga. In the Flag scene, by contrast, Eri is expressing her innermost feelings. The emotive aspect of Flag scenes is what makes them powerful.

Eri and Harima where seen by many people, but Yakumo and Harima where alone, that makes it more intimate. And by the way look at my sig Harima is the one hugging Yakumo!
That's part of the trick to Onigiri. People tend to assume intimacy whenever they see a guy and a girl alone together. Real intimacy is another story altogether.

I'm aware that your sig image was taken from the Ni Gakki PS2 game. There are events in there designed to please fans of every faction.

I'll be bringing around a sig of my own, in a few weeks time. ;)

I really do think that this is the part where Yakumo finally realized what it meant to fall in love. I'm not sure what was really the dialogue was after the "Imouto-san, do you think this is wrong?" (the dialogue I'm talking about is the one Yakumo was talking about "first time" and there are pink romance thingies in the background).

I think Yakumo finally felt something close to "romantic love" for Harima on that scene.

If I'm not mistaken, the dialogue should be something along the lines of "Are you really sure that love can start like this?" The two of them are talking about whether that scene would work in the manga that they're drawing. That being said, I do think that the statement also serves as a sly comment to the audience on the Onigiri pairing itself. Does simply throwing a guy and a girl into a seemingly intimate position constitute love?

Truth-kun

2006-07-11, 20:41

^ I guess I didn't consider that. Hahaha. My ex-onigirist side is coming out again -_-. Thank you for waking me up! :P

In any case, I have a question that I want to ask. I have the answer in mind but I'm not sure if that is applicable:

1) Why did Eri say to Yakumo "You don't have to give him a present. Do you think he's been thanked enough?"?

haiz123321

2006-07-12, 01:14

Question:I read the 1st post n they said no askin for the anime dl(RAW,OVA,SUBBED) i just asked if 14 is out anot n my post got deleted why iz that i just need confirmation im not askin where to dl it

ichigoismyhomie

2006-07-12, 02:35

i like how they used a spoofed up version of Love Hina when harima and yakumo were talking about the manga. so genius. This is why I love SR so much. The story never get boring.....

kenjiharima

2006-07-12, 03:21

@ ZhangKhaiEn My sig is taken from the new PS2 game.

Onigiri can be big if Yakumo can have a bit of a backbone to tell her fellings. Harima is the first guy to ever move her heart and she was the one who is approaching her in the first season(tea club camping trip), but big dumb sister used ONNE-CHAN POWER, maybe that's why Yakumo is still a little hesitant to go all out or maybe she does'nt want to hurt anyone's feelings. Tenma and Eri specially.

For now KJ is pushing Flag/Jersey faction on the manga, but for anime viewers it's Onigiri for now.

ZhangKhaiEn

2006-07-12, 04:37

If I'm not mistaken, the dialogue should be something along the lines of "Are you really sure that love can start like this?" The two of them are talking about whether that scene would work in the manga that they're drawing.

I disagree. Yakumo tends to bring up out-of-topic "suggestive" things in the middle of their manga sessions. Take for example vol.7, ch.95: "La Sorelle". The same could be said about vol.12, ch.143 (SR2, ep.14).

But for Kenji? You're prolly right~ he's too obsessed with Tenma and his manga... xD (Poor, poor Yakumo and Eri... >_<)

haiz123321

2006-07-12, 06:32

o.O there is even a game for sch rumble?! >_<

ZhangKhaiEn

2006-07-12, 06:36

yup yup! ^_^

http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index.html?game=school+rumble&platform=All+Platforms

Deathkillz

2006-07-12, 07:35

O.o thats new i didnt know that school rumble had a game to lol...wht type of game is it?? (rpg?)

haiz123321

2006-07-12, 09:18

MAN IM GONNA BUY IT 1ST THING TML..ok not 1st thing but maybe tml lol

Swampstorm

2006-07-12, 11:44

In any case, I have a question that I want to ask. I have the answer in mind but I'm not sure if that is applicable:

1) Why did Eri say to Yakumo "You don't have to give him a present. Do you think he's been thanked enough?"?

I suspect that this might be linked to the events of Tenma's birthday dinner.

Onigiri can be big if Yakumo can have a bit of a backbone to tell her fellings. Harima is the first guy to ever move her heart and she was the one who is approaching her in the first season(tea club camping trip), but big dumb sister used ONNE-CHAN POWER, maybe that's why Yakumo is still a little hesitant to go all out or maybe she does'nt want to hurt anyone's feelings. Tenma and Eri specially.
Yakumo needs to develop those feelings in the first place, before she can tell them to anyone, right? You seem to be putting the cart before the horse.

I disagree. Yakumo tends to bring up out-of-topic "suggestive" things in the middle of their manga sessions. Take for example vol.7, ch.95: "La Sorelle". The same could be said about vol.12, ch.143 (SR2, ep.14).
This scene isn't really open to interpretation, because we are given the dialogue under a specific context. You can't take that line out of the context of the lines that precede it and the lines that follow it. Yakumo is raising an objection to using the scene, and they agree not to use it.

The lines in La Sorelle have a specific context, as well. Yakumo introduces the topic with a lead in question, and then follows up on it afterwords.

But for Kenji? You're prolly right~ he's too obsessed with Tenma and his manga... xD (Poor, poor Yakumo and Eri... >_<)
Well, the issue doesn't matter much to Yakumo, either way. As for Eri, however - she doesn't have much to worry about.

haiz123321

2006-07-13, 05:20

lol this epi was nice in 2 parts imadori never filrted this time(also never made us laugh) and the bomb passin thing lol

kenjiharima

2006-07-13, 23:58

Remember the time Yakumo said on the camping trip "Too bad , it seems he does'nt remember me.", then Harima said "BTW thanks for the Rice Balls yesterday.". Then Yakumo has some white lights behind her. Must be cupid...nahh
either way this is an onigiri episode hope to see more in the future. But I rather have KIDS MEAL!! ^__^

Shredder

2006-07-14, 04:28

Best. Character. Ever.
http://frames.free.fr/Images/love3.jpg
10 on this ep just for that. The rest was good too though, 8 at least. Go go Naru-chan and Eri-chan! Eri had enough time in this ep, as long as I get to hear Yui's voice some. A real treat of an ep for Onigiri fans. Plus Karasuma and Hanai finally showed up, and the minimal characters were treated as they should be--not absent but good in small doses. Even Lala was kind of funny when she couldn't keep up with the Jap word game. I did like the Buddha character's cosplay and harem scenes.

Still Harima should've taken that little gift, why refuse? And what was the deal with Tenma and Karasuma, it wasn't resolved? Also how many botched confessions has Harima had by now, 10? They keep coming up with ways to throw them off, but at least Harima got some credit for this one.

SonicMonkey

2006-07-14, 06:17

Ok I have somewhat serious continuity question.

In the birthday party scene when Yakumon is trying to give Harima his birthday present, Eri retorts something along the lines of "just being here is a present" or something like that. Now, this is in direct reference to Harima's feelings for Tenma.

When exactly did Eri become aware that Harima has a crush on Tenma? Because that is certainly what it seems like, plus her actions at paying for Tenma's birthday dinner in episode 12 really seems like she knows. For instance as they are walking away from the evening they show a close up of Eri's face and she calls Harima a "bakka" and sort of pouts and looks downcast (made me feel kinda bad for her actually).

I'm just wondering when it was exactly that she figured this out. Now, it's not that I'm surprised about it, it's just that I don't remember when it occured.

In any regards I think it (and episode 12 in particular) shows how much Eri cares for Harima even if she doesn't have the guts to say so yet (although it looks like the manga is starting to get there actually... scary thought). It's very similar to how Harima gives Tenma his flowers and pretends they are from Karasuma. I thought it was a nice change of pace for Harima, finally he is actually thinking about Tenma's feelings, even if he doesn't like them. Basically it shows that the two characters are actually thinking about the people they like (love?) Eri is thinking about Harima enough to figure out he likes Tenma and Harima is thinking about Tenma enough to admit her feelings are (currently anyway, suppose i should leave that open) are not for him.

Anyway I just have to say that I totally <3 Eri. She was the one character that I did not expect to grow on me because generally I find Tsundere characters really annoying (I could never get into Love Hina because of this)... however Eri's "deredere" side is just way too cute. I think the fact that she's not completely over the top like Naru Narusegawa from Love Hina makes the character work a lot better. It's like you don't feel that when she is in "tsuntsun" mode that this is actually her default behavior, but rather she is just trying to cope with something ;)

All in all a pretty solid episode. Can't wait for the rest of the season :)

Edit:

Heh after reading what I wrote I realized I made a comparison between Eri and Naru about how much I dislike Naru Narusegawa in Love Hina... and neglected to mention that I have always found it funny because they are both voiced by the same seiyu :) A little trivia for some people I guess ^_^

kenjiharima

2006-07-14, 06:43

Swampstorm

2006-07-14, 07:36

Eri and Naru are similar. They both beat up the main male character and they are both in love with them. Namely Kietaro x Naru and Harima x Eri. But instead of punches to the face, Harima gets kicks and shining wizards. Ouch what a knee attack!! XD
Most of the misperceptions of Eri's character stem from trying to categorize her into familiar stereotypes - it's much more comfortable to deal with something familiar than with something unique and less predictable. Almost every girl hits guys at some point in this series. Tenma slams Harima into the ground. Mikoto punches Harima. Mikoto sends Imadori flying. Karen throws basketballs at Imadori. Yakumo slams Hanai into the ground. Lala chokes Imadori. Are all of these characters similar to Naru, then?

Similarily, the "Tsundere" classification is given undue significance. Every girl is either warm and approachable or aloof and unapproachable. If she's unapproachable and falls for a guy, she becomes warmer and more friendly - and you have a tsundere on your hands. Tsundere covers just as broad a spectrum of girls as non-Tsundere. For that matter, you could even make a case for Yakumo as a tsundere.

Instead of sticking to labels, it's much more effective to evaluate characters based on their individual stories - especially in an unpredictable series like SR. You just might find that the characters are a lot different than they originally seemed - Eri especially.

When exactly did Eri become aware that Harima has a crush on Tenma?
She isn't. Eri is going through some internal turmoil right now, due in part to her feelings for Harima and due in part to some other issues. Just wait a little longer. ;)

Deathkillz

2006-07-14, 08:14

dam its a great ep...and i find out that tenma is really evil -.-
lots of harima x yakumo which i love to bits and the flames of love has be lit in yakumo (from my opinion) but even though harima's intention was completely innocent his request for her to fall on top of him seems a bit too much but nevertherless yakumo still did it...and the heart beating gives a really good tip that yakumo is getting excited ;)
also it was yakumo who gave harima a present (wht is the meaning hidden there?)
funny bits was when akira was told to crack a smile and when she wanted to wear the fish suit XD
and next week...more harima x yakumo time...i mush be in heaven lol

haiz123321

2006-07-14, 10:10

did tenma really ask akira to smile? lol i dint kno XD

specter23

2006-07-14, 11:29

Can't help but wonder why someone would actually give a rating of 1/10 for this episode =.=

thundrakkon

2006-07-14, 13:08

Can't help but wonder why someone would actually give a rating of 1/10 for this episode =.=

Probably has to do with the fact that he is part of the Flag faction and this is an Onigiri episode.

With Eri's comments concerning Harima's gift from Yakumo, I can see that she has a much deeper understanding of Harima than most of girls in SR. She does pay A LOT of attention concerning Harima.

Regardless, that was very sweet of Yakumo to be the ONLY one considerate enough to remember and give Harima a gift. One day, if I ever have the chance to produce an original anime series, Yakumo will make an appearance with a much better result.

I guess Harima has finally begun to let go of Tenma. I guess that will pave the way for him to see potential in other girls, and yeah, it would be just too weird for him to crazily want to go out with one sister and then switch over to another sister. Therefore, although not my favorite choice, the relationship will probably revolve around Eri soon.

Harima laying on his back during the manga session was just priceless, and Yakuma afterwards was so hot. Definitely one of the better episodes this season.

Deathkillz

2006-07-14, 13:26

meh onigiri faction rulz :D i also like the flag faction but for my onigiri wins...but you dnt see me voting 1 for the eps if it was a flag eps =.=

Anime Online

2006-07-14, 21:20

This episode has all the elements that I've come to enjoy in School Rumble.

Parody : Go go, Love Hina parody!

Comedy : Akira in fish costume = win

Romance : Harima trying to cheer Tenma up, Tenma meeting Karasuma, Yakumo helping Harima out

kenjiharima

2006-07-14, 23:46

Most of the misperceptions of Eri's character stem from trying to categorize her into familiar stereotypes - it's much more comfortable to deal with something familiar than with something unique and less predictable. Almost every girl hits guys at some point in this series. Tenma slams Harima into the ground. Mikoto punches Harima. Mikoto sends Imadori flying. Karen throws basketballs at Imadori. Yakumo slams Hanai into the ground. Lala chokes Imadori. Are all of these characters similar to Naru, then?

Similarily, the "Tsundere" classification is given undue significance. Every girl is either warm and approachable or aloof and unapproachable. If she's unapproachable and falls for a guy, she becomes warmer and more friendly - and you have a tsundere on your hands. Tsundere covers just as broad a spectrum of girls as non-Tsundere. For that matter, you could even make a case for Yakumo as a tsundere.

Ohh now I see... :heh:

Red_eyes

2006-07-15, 09:57

That was really sweet of Yakumo to be the only one considerate enough to give Harima a present :)

npal

2006-07-15, 10:05

Can't they just send Tenma and Karasuma somewhere and not show them until the series end? :p I'm sure Harima and the other cast can pull the comedy and all the other elements just fine. Although I kinda pitied Tenma at some point in this episode, I think she should just GO somewhere :p

Hurray for Yakumo :D

Sinestra

2006-07-15, 18:45

Great Ep as always i mean damn Harima just cant get no love hes such a nice guy and the only one that really knows it is Yakumo she was the only one thoughtful enough to give him a present. Plus the who Yakumo pretendin to fall on top of him was great shes so cute it hurts. I really want a HarimaXYakumo ending but for some reason i dont think im going to get(tear tear)

monstert

2006-07-15, 20:52

Yay for Karasuma and Tenma.

taichikun14

2006-07-16, 01:51

i'm one of the few harima x tenma fans (don't hurt me!!!)... so i loved this episode because although harima's confession was ruined once again, at least tenma knew that he was just trying to cheer her up... awesome... but it killed me that harima tried to do that...it's just too sweet...

Shredder

2006-07-16, 04:16

I thought it was a good moment too. It would've sucked if that act had been overlooked. Pretty funny how the nametag wasn't written properly--too bad some of the humor was lost due to my lack of knowledge on Japanese writing. Torima? Harima definitely has his sweet/romantic side, I imagine girls would love it

Swampstorm

2006-07-17, 16:29

Probably has to do with the fact that he is part of the Flag faction and this is an Onigiri episode.
That's probably not the case - most Flaggers are indifferent to Onigiri. Besides, if anything, this strikes me as one of the strongest Oudou episodes in the series.

Regardless, that was very sweet of Yakumo to be the ONLY one considerate enough to remember and give Harima a gift. One day, if I ever have the chance to produce an original anime series, Yakumo will make an appearance with a much better result.
Wasn't there another birthday gift given out in Ep.12? Not every gift comes in wrapping paper.

I guess Harima has finally begun to let go of Tenma.
If I understood correctly, the manga segment is about Harima trying to sabotage Karasuma's manga because he thinks that Karasuma is communicating his feelings for Tenma through the manga. It doesn't seem like he's changed very much.

Is it just me, or did that bald cap of Eri's also appear back in Ep.20 of Season 1?