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Catgirls
2006-07-24, 10:59
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Gotta be one of the funniest episodes upto now in the series, great to see some of the characters having a good time, Kuuya was perfectly anaimated - shall post a more in-depth review later~
Heh, looks like we'll be getting you know who in the next episode & can't wait to see peoples views on the Oboro/twins scene. <3
Omniscient
2006-07-24, 18:24
Episode 17 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/07/24/utawarerumono-17/)
Started out a bit slow, but ended up being quite a funny episode with the twins and then with Touka.
Boooo boooo, they hided her pouting face! :(
Looks like its time for Aruji-sama next.
Paracelsus
2006-07-24, 19:28
Dude, Kuuya is shown for some moments, but she definetely owns the episode
<3
uh-huh...what's going on there between oboro and the twins hmm? :naughty:
so they are females in the anime after all.
so they are females in the anime after all.
Hahahahaha...no.
:eek:
God, now i just HOPE they really turned the twins into females just for the anime, otherwise Oboro is now officially gay! (and will need some remedy for his... "sitting' problems" :heh: )
Touka looks great too. And besides Kuuya, Karura is hitting on Hakuoro too?! Lucky bastard...
Poor Benawi is not having the same lucky... being forced to do all the hard work in sign those documents instead Hakuoro. :p
I hope the subs will be released soon!!
uh-huh...what's going on there between oboro and the twins hmm? :naughty:
These two little fellas are more dangerous than you think. Look again the 8ht screenshot. Boys or girls, they were not just pouring sake to Oboro (different color). Probably they drugged him! :heh:
These two little fellas are more dangerous than you think. Look again the 8ht screenshot. Boys or girls, they were not just pouring sake to Oboro (different color). Probably they drugged him! :heh:
Heh, it would have been better if they shown what could have happened to Oboro. ^^;;
These two little fellas are more dangerous than you think. Look again the 8ht screenshot. Boys or girls, they were not just pouring sake to Oboro (different color). Probably they drugged him! :heh:
that's not sake. that's erruru's medicine for oboro's hangover. it was originally green but changed to that color b/c oboro was complaining about the bitterness or something and then eruru added honey
Oh, okay. So they just make him drunk with too much sake, and they "take good care" of him.
Anyway, let's see if Oboro's head is the only thing hurting... :heh:
that's not sake. that's erruru's medicine for oboro's hangover. it was originally green but changed to that color b/c oboro was complaining about the bitterness or something and then eruru added honey
Honey - best thing to help cure a sore throat. :)
hohohoho that ep is hillarious
Onizuka-GTO
2006-07-24, 23:48
Hahahahaha...no.
Hahahahaha.....they could be. :rolleyes:
here's hoping twins are female in this [anime] version :heh:
Shinji103
2006-07-25, 00:46
Dude, they're female.
For Oboro's sake, THEY BETTER DAMN WELL BE FEMALE. :twitch: :eyespin: :twitch: :eyespin: :twitch: :eyespin:
Touko acting cutesy is a major A+++++++++++++. :love:
Hahahahaha.....they could be. :rolleyes:
Only in people's imaginations. The "debate" about their gender is ridiculous, and reminds me of those people that insisted that Wolfram was a girl back when KKM had just started airing.
TrueKnight
2006-07-25, 04:03
Dear God, I've just looked at the pics and here's also hoping the twins are female.
Only in people's imaginations
Not really, it's been done before. It could happen. And unlike KKM (bishie show), Uta was originally a hentai game so it was heavilly geared towards males. Which is why I understand that Hakuoro ("the authors??" :D ) only took Touka and Karura for facing Niue, its for harem sake. ;)
Maybe they'll do what FMP The Second Raid had done, turning the twins from males (novel) into hot females (animes) for audiences sake.
Renegade334
2006-07-25, 04:07
Maybe they'll do what FMP The Second Raid had done, turning the twins from males (novel) into hot females (animes) for audiences sake.
Note that in the FMP manga, the twins are also girls (and they look nothing like the anime characters, mind you - as you can see for yourself: 1 (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/412/fullmetalpanicsigma63jb5.jpg), 2 (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9499/fullmetalpanicsigmac01p17tc2.jpg)). It's just that both Kyoto Animation and the mangaka might have found it a little spicier rather than keep them male. Wonder if there'll also be a gender bender for the UM manga, since there is one being published right now, right?
Little photo shop I made...
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4731/utawarerumono17twinstb7sh1.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=utawarerumono17twinstb7sh1.jpg)
Little photo shop I made...
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4731/utawarerumono17twinstb7sh1.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=utawarerumono17twinstb7sh1.jpg)
LOL.. Precious precious.. you sure its not the other way around? If they were females.. Someone put up a Hakuoro vs. Oboro scoreboard!
Anyway, let's see if Oboro's head is the only thing hurting... :heh:
:D
Onizuka-GTO
2006-07-25, 06:55
Only in people's imaginations. The "debate" about their gender is ridiculous, and reminds me of those people that insisted that Wolfram was a girl back when KKM had just started airing.
Unfortunately, alot of people has had the assumption that the Anime will follow the game.
If you have played the game you know they missed out alot of things, the anime is significantly different.
For someone who has not played the game, it is very easy for them to assume the twins are female, at this moment in time the anime has done NOTHING to change that preception.
And I suspect it could be easier for Kyoani to leave it as that.
As long as they do not provide any evidence to disapprove this, it is safe to say they are female.
Key Board
2006-07-25, 07:08
they're boys in both the anime and the game
it is safe to say they are female.
There has been nothing in the anime so far to show they're female - i say its safe to say they're keeping the same gender from the game.
Owaranai Destiny
2006-07-25, 09:08
Well, whatever the truth about the gender of the twins is, I can safely say the position they were in with Oboro was rather...interesting. :D
On another note,
Seems that the story about Hakuoro's real identity and past is given a little more attention as well, though it wasn't the focus as usual. Still, I'm glad we could learn at least a little more about what he might be, even if its just some names.
Touka=cute:heh:
Renegade334
2006-07-25, 09:51
On another note,
Seems that the story about Hakuoro's real identity and past is given a little more attention as well, though it wasn't the focus as usual. Still, I'm glad we could learn at least a little more about what he might be, even if its just some names.
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/19.gif Heh. You won't be disappointed. Especially since it's a pretty big thing.
Touka=cute:heh:
Quoted for truth. Seems almost strange to see her like that seeing how stern-looking and a stickler to her code of conduct/sense of honor she was when we first saw her. Touka + weird situation = priceless.
Unfortunately, alot of people has had the assumption that the Anime will follow the game.
If you have played the game you know they missed out alot of things, the anime is significantly different.
For someone who has not played the game, it is very easy for them to assume the twins are female, at this moment in time the anime has done NOTHING to change that preception.
And I suspect it could be easier for Kyoani to leave it as that.
As long as they do not provide any evidence to disapprove this, it is safe to say they are female.
Aquaplus, you mean? :D
[Tongue-in-Cheek]
I had always suspected that after SHaruhi, many would be suffering from withdrawal symptons and associating KyoAni with any anime that is good, or trying to find other anime that is similar to SHaruhi. :P
Tabitha is a Yuki-clone. Shion is a Mikuru-Tsuraya-hybrid. Etc...
[/Tongue-in-Cheek]
PastPrime
2006-07-25, 10:39
There has been nothing in the anime so far to show they're female - i say its safe to say they're keeping the same gender from the game.
Like Mashiro in Mai Otome manga and anime?
KaneDragon
2006-07-25, 10:43
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5014/songyi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Noo! Oboro, run! It's a trap! It's a tra~~~~~~
http://shootagainamusements.com/itsatrap/akbar.jpg
Poor Oboro. It would be hotter if the twins were female, but knowing they were traps in the game... @_@
This episode was full of high points. The sperm twins getting Oboro drunk and having their way with him (was this part in the game, too?**), all of their expressions, Eruruu's tail going all spastic when Hakuoro complemented her, Touka being cute, drunk Karura hitting on Hakuoro.... <3
**EDIT: Nevermind, found the info in the Twin thread (2nd spoiler tag): http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=573352&postcount=35
At time like this, I strongly believe that the anime definitely stayed true with the twin's gender from the game.
KaneDragon
2006-07-25, 11:12
I was also a bit confused by all the long, mythical names that got thrown around...
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3452/vlcsnap93221gn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I guess this is just something Hakuoro learned off-screen? I want to learn more about these so-called special powers, gods, etc... And how setting yourself on fire and running your opponent through a meat-grinder fits into it...
is it just me or is yesy's torrent for episode 17 not working?
I cant get to their fansub page. Tracker down? FBI? I dont know.
But WOW. This must be yesy's fastest release. Competition is good? Then again, I'm a little worried about quality. Then again, why do I have to go to sleep??? :(
Maybe they are following the gender guessing thread..
Yes it's getting the torrent that is the problem.
aeroshadow
2006-07-25, 12:50
Hakuoro's harem is becoming simply monstrous. Now he gets to have a blonde as well?
Xellos-_^
2006-07-25, 13:02
Hakuoro's harem is becoming simply monstrous. Now he gets to have a blonde as well?
Not the most overpowering harem i seen but one that gets along the best. No bickering and personality clashes for Hauoro to deal with.
unlike:
Tenchi
Shiki
and poor saito and whip wielding louise :D
Key Board
2006-07-25, 13:03
Witsalnemitea was mentioned several times actually. Mostly pertaining to blessings and such. Rewatch Urotori's debut.
But like Hakuoro, must of it just went over our head.
aeroshadow
2006-07-25, 13:16
Not the most overpowering harem i seen but one that gets along the best. No bickering and personality clashes for Hauoro to deal with.I know it's overpowering me. To be honest, until now, I've never felt an ounce of jealousy towards any character regarding his harem. Seriously. But... this... this is just going overboard! Touka is a goddess, Karura is simply amazing, and now, he gets this beautiful, young blonde.
It's just utterly ridiculous! XD
...
Anyways, the episode was fun, but looking back, it didn't really accomplish anything. The characters have lately been retreating to their character archetypes more and more when earlier on, they were each given a fair amount of attention to their thoughts and development. Hakuoro has been the only character getting any attention for the last handul of episodes, and it's a little bothersome. Still, this episode was entertaining enough, so I'm fine for now. The next episode seems to promise some Karura development anyways.
What a great episode, made a lot more sense when watching it subbed - though even without subs, its easy to understand just how much Oboro gets owned in that episode. First from Dorii & Gura, then Eruru, then Yuzuha.. the list goes on. & you just gotta love Touka in this episode..^^;;
I really enjoyed seeing Kuuya animated, & hearing what she had to say, so cute. I'd easily say she's one of the cutest characters in the story next to Yuzuha.
As i said before, next episode is where all the fun begins~
Residentbadass
2006-07-25, 14:58
Oh man, this episode was pretty hardcore ownage. Genjimaru, for one, is officially the most badass character in this show. No, I haven't played the game, nor do I know about it at all. But I have a feeling hes going to rock some crotches in the later episodes. Heres my pretty accurate prediction of what's going to happen:A small band of virgins: Oh no! The enemy has surrounded us, they're at least 500,000 strong. What will we do?
Genjimaru then flies in, shoots the 500,00 enemies a cold stare. Then all of them kill themselves because they figure they're screwed anyway, suicide is a lot more painless.
Small band of virgins: Oh, our hero!
Bow chica bow wow
I was then wondering why he seemed familiar, then it hit me!
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8513/vlcsnap5322602wk0.th.png (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap5322602wk0.png)
and
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1914/vlcsnap2538983ye7.th.png (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap2538983ye7.png)
So at that point I was like holy sh*t. This series is going to stomp more ass than it already has after we see Genjimaru rock some crotches.
Durandir
2006-07-25, 15:12
oboro is not gay watch episode 6 as the merchant say what he has jewelrys for womans the anime showd a screen from the twins so no panic the are female in the anime ^^
oboro is not gay watch episode 6 as the merchant say what he has jewelrys for womans the anime showd a screen from the twins so no panic the are female in the anime ^^
Actually, that doesn't mean they're females at all.
Durandir
2006-07-25, 15:24
Actually, that doesn't mean they're females at all.
the ears are the same as Eruruu has it and the have a tail >_>
remember episode 1 Eruruu sayd not to touch girls tails!
Beside male dont have tales in this anime ^^
Catgirls
2006-07-25, 15:34
Beside male dont have tales in this anime ^^Actually, they do. We already discussed this in a previous thread. Men do indeed have tails in this show. From the Episode 4 thread. To add onto what's already posted above me, this image is from Episode 5. Don't worry: it isn't a spoiler. It's completely out of context, innocuous and cropped.
http://i1.tinypic.com/x2tamo.jpg
Those are all men from the village. As you can see, some have tails and some don't. I think it depends on the species or clan that they're from (as it is in nature).
Kisuke06
2006-07-25, 15:38
Very good episode, indeed. Touka was so cute in this one. :heh:
Durandir
2006-07-25, 15:41
ok female or male its hard to say then >_>
my mistake >_<
KaneDragon
2006-07-25, 15:42
It's okay, you can still be gar for teh twins. 4chan forgives you. :p
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8650/capturetoukasupercutenb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
NEED MORE DELICIOUS TOUKA! (repeated for emphasis @_@)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8650/capturetoukasupercutenb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Episode 17 was so far the best Episode ^^
Very good episode, indeed. Touka was so cute in this one. :heh:
Indeed. This Woman can be so cute sometimes. :D I love her character, i wish i have a Bodyguard like her :bow:
Srin Tuar
2006-07-25, 15:50
It was good to see some more cute stuff in this show.
I really liked Eruru's part, both the tail wagging and the pouting face.
(Oboro had to pay for his comment about the taste of the hangover medicine - watch your mouth next time fool)
Toukas Dere side was overboard. Its hard to believe such a serious fighter would completely lose it in the face of a bunny :)
And the twins bedded oboro.... I think thats been covered.
Aruru is still their resident beastmaster.
A fun ep :)
Kisuke06
2006-07-25, 15:51
Episode 17 was so far the best Episode ^^
Indeed. This Woman can be so cute sometimes. :D I love her character, i wish i have a Bodyguard like her :bow:
Me too. :D I hope we will see more Touka on the next episodes.
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/9180/toukayr1.th.jpg (http://img273.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toukayr1.jpg)
So cute. :D
Darklightz
2006-07-25, 17:50
This was the funniest and cutest episode yet! Touka can be so cute! :D
This episode made the twins look so much more feminine too.I'm convinced in the anime they're both female.Now if we could only get a hint of cleavage or something to confirm it.
Also interesting is Kuuya.It seems she has no confidence in her leadership skills and was hoping Hakuoro would give her a special power to make everything right.It also shows that Hakuoro and the country of Tusukuru must have gotten quite a reputation after defeating Yue.
about the spoiler scene...
The original game had this scene as well, just no pictures for it.
They are male, and have hots for Oboro in the game.
They also have hots for Hakuoro, and offered Hakuoro as well...
but unfortunately for them, Hakuoro is straight :P
ChainLegacy
2006-07-25, 20:20
I thought Touka's reaction was cute too... and very unexpected. The scene with the twins... no comment. :)
The highlights/golden moments of the episode for me were the following,
..) Benawi breaking his brush when a servant brought more documents.
..) Oboro getting defeated by his sister and Aruruu. He just can't win against any named character, can he?
..) The exchanged conversation between Hakuoro and Oboro after Eruruu made her "Oh woe am I" speech.
..) The cracking sound the bowl made after Eruruu poured honey into it...
..) Touka losing it over the 'bunny'.
Cheers.
One of the best episodes yet, I agree. Very fun. Many funny moments. Oboro gets owned a lot, from the twins getting him drunk and then sleeping with him to Hakauro making him drink the medicine to Yazuha and Aruuruu dealing ownage. Poor Oboro. : p
Also, residentbadass, that guard looks like Big Boss from MGS 3. :cool:
Another photoshop I threw together.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7343/utawarerumono17twinstb7cz8.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=utawarerumono17twinstb7cz8.jpg)
Oh snaps yo! XD Man, for the sake of Oboro's rep, the twins better be girls (OH THE YURI FACTOR! 8D)
Honestly, I have no idea anymore XD
Teehee, Touka was silly<33 Gechatara is so totemo kawaii DESU HAI ;p Desu hai-san came back too 8D
Mwuarr, looks like they're goin' back into the action~
Twas a nice break from the unless battle scenes too xP Nice break indeed.
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7983/snapshot20060725213016uo1.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060725213016uo1.jpg) http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2856/snapshot20060725213021su1.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060725213021su1.jpg) http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9462/snapshot20060725213028fd7.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060725213028fd7.jpg)
See, now there arrives a Mikyuum. Then the scene quickly changes to the kitty. And if I'm correct, kitty say: "Do I smell,.. food!" ...because Aruruu arrived not too long ago with the honeycomb. So now you have this Mikyuum practically rolling around in the sticky honey hands of the girls. What you didn't see:
Oboro: "No, don't... ah!!! Bad Kitty, Bad Kitty! Spit it out now! Spit it out!"
Aruruu: "(Gives Oboro the left over honeycomb from the bag) Here, use this."
(Kitty spits out Mikyuum in direction of Oboro; projectile-like Mikyuum knocks Oboro out to the ground. Mikyuum then seen running to the hands of Aruruu. Then it picks up from where Oboro wants Aruruu to hand over the Mikyuum, and Aruruu makes smart-assed comment that he got no honeycomb. Aruruu pets big kitty, as big kitty enjoys honeycomb snack.
Touka after shows up, and Oboro lets the topic go in fear of what Touka would do to him should she lean of what had just happened. This is where you find Oboro over on his knees, then picks up to to that moral thing where Yuzuha doesn't want to take one life for the other, or something like that. For Oboro, kind of like one of those animes where a giant pan or kettle falls on him from out of nowhere,.. but happens again, and again, and again. Not sure exactly what happened after, but I think the knocked out Oboro is then seen being dragged back to the castle by the twins.)
Actually, I didn't play the game. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :cool:
Onizuka-GTO
2006-07-25, 22:20
well talking about that scene, the background music for that segment was fantastic, that beautiful clean solo melody of a flute took my breath away.
it really lent the carefree, innocent and happy atmosphere at that time.
kudos to yesy for such a fast release. oh and that little jab at "your mom" with the:
"Because my mom can't fansub"
cracked me up. :p
kudos to yesy for such a fast release. oh and that little jab at "your mom" with the:
"Because my mom can't fansub"
cracked me up. :p
Yes, I noticed that, funny jab. :D
Deathkillz
2006-07-25, 22:25
woot now i know touka's weakness...cute fluffy things :heh:
lucky (or poor) oboro...they twins look hot in bed :heh:
sweet ep but i think theres too much talk IMO (like last week) but good things seemt to ooze from the preview ;)
This episode was a very relaxing, mostly humorous episode - a followup of episode 16, if you might say. The parts with Kuuya (can finally speak her name! lol) and Hakuoro weren't too shabby. I felt the rate of speaking was a little fast, either because they wanted to get all the "in the beginning" speeches done with asap, or Kuuya is just a very fast speaker.
The humor parts people have already stated, so I won't go into anymore details.
9/10. Not perfect for reasons I go into the spoilers for. You have been warned. >_>
The part that didn't work for me in this episode was the scene between Yuzuha and Oboro. I'm sensing a deteriorating relationship between the two the moment Yuzuha said she didn't like what Oboro was planning for the little mouse. If that's the feeling we were meant to take in, then that's ok, it worked. What bugs me was when she said, "I don't understand." Here's a loving brother (misguided in decision-making as he may be) struggling to cure his sister of her blindness and heart attacks and what other medical conditions she might have. She knows this. We know this. Everybody does. Then she contradicts the facts by saying she doesn't understand what her brother means. Perhaps she didn't know what she was talking about, that it was a means to disagree with her brother. But she knows FULL well what Oboro meant. That part didn't settle with me.
Furthermore, the impact of Yuzuha saying she didn't like that side of Oboro was shoved aside too quickly in my opinion. I don't have a problem with the scene as whole. The problem is how long we got to fully absorb her words. It felt like a major plot point in the series that we forget the moment Kamyu runs in 10 seconds later.
All in all, spendid show. Just one scene I had particular beef with. The final seconds of the show hints a spy (a rather one at that. It rose over the trees!) and return to battle-excitement - if the preview didn't, that is. Also in the last scene with Kuuya and Hakuoro, I didn't see a point to dissolving to a shot of Hakuoro standing on top of the rock while she was telling her tale. Oh well. :|
^
I really do find it to be a great show, too. Out of all the shows I got into this past spring season, I am enjoying this one and Ouran High Host Club the most. Haruhi Suzumiya is my 3rd best pick, another really good show.
thundrakkon
2006-07-26, 00:08
As everyone said before, this was just a wonderful episode. They made Touka beyond cute in the episode, and Karura kept staring and smirking at her. This episode just had so many good points in it.
Kuuya mentioned that her tribe had some sort of secret power where they could stand up the world. I wonder if it will be a dark power, which Hakuoro and the gang will have to defeat?
Next week's episode looks like we will be seeing Karura's people.
The end of this episode with the dark monster is interesting. I wonder if that is just one beast, or one of many?
All the female characters in the episode just owned. They pretty much pawned every single guy they faced.
What bugs me was when she said, "I don't understand."
My guess was she meant, "I don't understand why you would do this if you truly care for me. You must realize that taking an innocent life to save me would also destroy me." Well, that's my interpretation of it.
Also in the last scene with Kuuya and Hakuoro, I didn't see a point to dissolving to a shot of Hakuoro standing on top of the rock while she was telling her tale. Oh well. :|
I guess in this scene, Kuuya left already, and Hakuoro is contemplating her words, hence standing there staring out in the distance.
The part that didn't work for me in this episode was the scene between Yuzuha and Oboro. I'm sensing a deteriorating relationship between the two the moment Yuzuha said she didn't like what Oboro was planning for the little mouse. If that's the feeling we were meant to take in, then that's ok, it worked. What bugs me was when she said, "I don't understand." Here's a loving brother (misguided in decision-making as he may be) struggling to cure his sister of her blindness and heart attacks and what other medical conditions she might have. She knows this. We know this. Everybody does. Then she contradicts the facts by saying she doesn't understand what her brother means. Perhaps she didn't know what she was talking about, that it was a means to disagree with her brother. But she knows FULL well what Oboro meant. That part didn't settle with me.
I think that she meant it in the sense that she was puzzled of such a harmful intent coming from her brother. Not that she didnt understand the reason why he wants to kill it, she couldnt accept/comprehend his sudden bloody intention.
I liked that scene anyway, felt that they were finally giving some focus (even if a little) on the side characters. And looks like next episode will fulfil my wish to see some Karura development. Hopefully.
Also in the last scene with Kuuya and Hakuoro, I didn't see a point to dissolving to a shot of Hakuoro standing on top of the rock while she was telling her tale. Oh well. :|
IMO it shows that Kuuya has somehow become very very special to Hakuoro~ for him to be thinking of what she said after she had gone. I think a major link between them will be revealed before this series ends. (And we know its not sex.)
Everyone's focusing on Touka!! Dont forget Aruruu.. she was the epitome of cuteness with her reaction at seeing Gacha, and then saying No in her aruruu-way, and then cheerfully saying that Oboro had no honey. You know, I'm 95% sure that she would have handed Gacha over if Oboro did have honey.
Nice episode, but I would not say its the best. For a peacetime episode, still lacking in insightful development of characters; I think the last episode did better.
Hmm.. with yesy's sub, has any noticed that the character voices has kind of deterioated? Especially Hakuoro's the sound quality sounds too sharp; almost screechy.. I dont think its VA, sounds like the encoding itself. Dont know if its the show or its my speakers. Anyone?
Didn't really notice anything about the sound quality being off.
I do really like this series. This epic fantasy series has me in the mood for watching Scrapped Princess again.
D a m i e n
2006-07-26, 02:04
poligami for the win
porchoky
2006-07-26, 02:37
good ep, kinda funny, even more controversy spawned about the twins haha. kuuya reminds me of saber, probably her hairstyle.
Add another one for Touka obsessive-screencapping here. Her expressions around the bunny-thing were priceless.
Especially when she was waiting her turn for the bunny-thing to cuddle around her, and when it ran away and her expression was so sad.
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-07-26, 03:10
Haha, now Oboro has been defeated by every single member in Hakuoro's team:
-Hakuoro punched him
-Benawi owned him several times
-Kurou beat him once
-Touka beat the shit out of him
-The twins got him drunk and date-raped him
-Eruruu made him a disgusting medicine
-Aruruu called his bluff
-The sheer force of Yuzuha's moemoe disagreement knocked him down
-I lied. Karura hasn't even touched him, but I think we all know what would happen if she does
EvolutionXI
2006-07-26, 03:15
Nice ep...bit of humor after the shikeripetim story. Good to see a different side of Touka too :)
kuuya reminds me of saber, probably her hairstyle.
Same thought here...just finished watching Fate not too long ago too so stood out right way.
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-07-26, 03:17
Kuuya accuses Hakuoro of building a harem and laziness; more digs at Hakuoro's expense. I also liked how she tried to remove his mask.
My guess was she meant, "I don't understand why you would do this if you truly care for me. You must realize that taking an innocent life to save me would also destroy me." Well, that's my interpretation of it.
That would make sense actually. Picture Yuzuha not knowing the complete truth of her brother, that Oboro is a person who takes lives. In a way, having that knowledge could devastate Yuzuha, and having mousie kick the bucket with Oboro's katana would add further salt to the wound. At the same time, that theory doesn't stand much ground; where does she think her brother goes all the time? Certainly not picking flowers. :eyebrow: There's no way for certain to know what she thinks of her brother, but from what we get from episode 17, it's not a very positive one.
I guess in this scene, Kuuya left already, and Hakuoro is contemplating her words, hence standing there staring out in the distance.
IMO it shows that Kuuya has somehow become very very special to Hakuoro~ for him to be thinking of what she said after she had gone. I think a major link between them will be revealed before this series ends.
Right, I just thought of that. First, Hakuoro was relieved to end the conversation the first night. Then, I suppose after preoccupying himself with the story of gods and such, he wanted to know more. Since Kuuya can babble on about it, he must find her facinating now. Contemplating on her words while standing on the rock makes total sense. But if you take away the visuals and just listen to it, the vocals blend so perfectly that you wouldn't know the difference. That's probably where my confusion took root.
Hmm.. with yesy's sub, has any noticed that the character voices has kind of deterioated? Especially Hakuoro's the sound quality sounds too sharp; almost screechy.. I dont think its VA, sounds like the encoding itself. Dont know if its the show or its my speakers. Anyone?
I've noticed it towards the end of episode 17 and a vast majority of episode 16. I have the RAW version of the episodes as well and they have no audio playback issues. My guess is Yesy fansubs forgot to calibrate the audio levels when exporting to AVI because it sounds like some of the voices when they are raised hit the yellow or red zone.
Haha, now Oboro has been defeated by every single member in Hakuoro's team:
I've noticed this too. And contrary to how you might feel, I'm starting to pity and empathize with Oboro. If I get nothing but beat downs and negativity everyday, and if my sister hates me, I'd probably start overdrinking too myself. :/
Cardiac Glycoside, your sig is awesome.
studiocode
2006-07-26, 03:55
What was with the shot at Your Mom? They seem to be pretty good, at least with that other show that they do. I guess they did something to piss off Yesy. I admit it was funny though.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7426/snapshot20060725212109oo2.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060725212109oo2.jpg)
Aruruu doesn't drink it quite that often. I'll drop the sore throat thing if you know what I mean. But, for hangover. Because somehow someone gave Aruruu the idea that mixing honey with alcohol would be an rather tasty thing to down. Thus when Aruruu came to the doc the next day to help relieve that "headache," well, after hearing Aruruu's story, hehe... Think of it as one of those not too happy cures whipped up by the doc. Not that honey is supposed to take the bitterness out. It's got to taste bad. Supposably hasn't been a problem since. ...well, for Aruruu anyway.
Srin Tuar
2006-07-26, 07:38
The part that didn't work for me in this episode was the scene between Yuzuha and Oboro.
She was trying to save the little rabbit's lifo, thats all.
She know if she didnt use harsh words, he'd have skewered it in no time.
Plus, I don't recall her saying she didnt understand him- she said simply responded to his request to "understand" (basically accept) that the gachatara had to be killed for its liver and she refused to do so. She was not playing dumb.
Nice Episode...
Excellent... for being so relaxing... all the series now are too tense... too bad it had all the stupid kamisama stuff... I can't even pronounce some of those names...
@ Srin Tuar
Yup... but you know I have to wonder what the heck sneaky person whispered to Oboro and Hakuoro... :eyebrow:
Well I guess we'll find out eventually :D...
This show is pretty interesting. I thought i was boring at the beginning.
Everytime I see Yuzuha I am a bit sad. She suffer from illness and also blind. Really sad. This episode is OK. I more prefer episode with battle. Especially Karura in battle.
She remind me of Elle from Shadow Skill.
Deathkillz
2006-07-26, 10:36
Yup... but you know I have to wonder what the heck sneaky person whispered to Oboro and Hakuoro... :eyebrow:
Well I guess we'll find out eventually :D...
i was wondering wht that guy sed too...maybe that rabbit thing has the powers to seduce women as well? thats my best guess :p
I rewatched that part and Oboro has a fast line afterwards... saying something like this :
"What the hell kind of price is that?!"
So he wasn't talking about any special power... but still... what could the price be :rolleyes:... well it probably nothing special... just a lot of money
Deathkillz
2006-07-26, 10:56
^ ah well it did have the power to screech very loudly when it sensed danger :p maybe they brought the pet just to keep the kids happy heh (oh and also touka)
@ Deathkillz
They agreed to keep it because Eruruu (or Oboro) just became it's new master :D... the name thing ;)... that and Oboro needs its liver... you noticed the killer glitter in his eye when he was convincing Hakuoro to buy it...
Xellos-_^
2006-07-26, 11:08
Nice Episode...
Excellent... for being so relaxing... all the series now are too tense... too bad it had all the stupid kamisama stuff... I can't even pronounce some of those names...
@ Srin Tuar
Yup... but you know I have to wonder what the heck sneaky person whispered to Oboro and Hakuoro... :eyebrow: Well I guess we'll find out eventually :D...
My guess the sneaky guy was whispering how much the Carbuncle cost.
thundrakkon
2006-07-26, 11:25
^ ah well it did have the power to screech very loudly when it sensed danger :p maybe they brought the pet just to keep the kids happy heh (oh and also touka)
Benawi did mention that it brought luck and protection. Since no one knows much about it, I bet it has really powerful magic which it will use to protect/save Aruruu someday.
@BlackCatXIII. It looks like Aruruu is the new master. She is the beastmaster, afterall, being able to talk to and understand animals. Was it ever mentioned how she had the ability to understand animals, or did she just suddenly had those skills one day?
Xellos-_^
2006-07-26, 11:41
Benawi did mention that it brought luck and protection. Since no one knows much about it, I bet it has really powerful magic which it will use to protect/save Aruruu someday.
@BlackCatXIII. It looks like Aruruu is the new master. She is the beastmaster, afterall, being able to talk to and understand animals. Was it ever mentioned how she had the ability to understand animals, or did she just suddenly had those skills one day?
In one of the earlier eps the grandma said Aruruu was like her older sister who had special powers.
Srin Tuar
2006-07-26, 12:57
My guess the sneaky guy was whispering how much the Carbuncle cost.
Your guess is correct: he was stating the price of the little mikyuumu rabbit monster: you can tell when oboro flinched back he said "what the hell kind of price is that!" (very high, I'm thinking)
All the females had attached to it, and Oboro was still holding out hope for the liver, so Hakuoro agreed to pay it.
(Touka would have been depressed if he didnt, I bet. )
@BlackCatXIII. It looks like Aruruu is the new master. She is the beastmaster, afterall, being able to talk to and understand animals. Was it ever mentioned how she had the ability to understand animals, or did she just suddenly had those skills one day?
I'm not very sure, but as far i can tell, that began in episode 1 and 2. That was what i understood:
Mutikapa-sama was the king of the forest and guardian of Yanayun-kami, god of the forest. In episode 1, Nuwangi destroyed the altar for Yanayun-kami, bringing the rage of Mutikapa, what started to atack the village.
In episode 2, Tsukuruu said when she was young that happened too. Her older sister, who had the power of a Kamunagi (a priestess), was given to the forest as a sacrifice in order to calm down Yamayun-kami. She became the Yaanamauna ("Mother of the Forest"), the one considered linked to the forest and protected
by the Yaanayun-kami.
The way Aruruu acted, she thought maybe Eruruu would be offered as a sacrifice, too. Remember the way she hugged Eruruu's hands. She would never allow that.
Thanks to Hakuoro and co., Mutikapa was beaten. But Aruruu was missing. Aparently, she went to the forest all by herself, maybe trying to calm down the god of the forest as the new sacrifice instead her older sister. There she found Mukkuru.
I think at that time she became the new Yaanamauna ("Mother of the Forest"), priestess of Yamayuno-kami. That's why Mukkuru - the new guardian of Yaamayuno-kami - obey her and she can understand what animals talk.
Xellos-_^
2006-07-26, 13:12
... but still... what could the price be :rolleyes:... well it probably nothing special... just a lot of money
The carbuncle will jump out of a hole in ground and cast reflect :heh: :p
Your guess is correct: he was stating the price of the little mikyuumu rabbit monster: you can tell when oboro flinched back he said "what the hell kind of price is that!" (very high, I'm thinking)
All the females had attached to it, and Oboro was still holding out hope for the liver, so Hakuoro agreed to pay it.
(Touka would have been depressed if he didnt, I bet. )
He's pretty much forced to pay for it because once the animal got a name, it would forever be bound to the person who gave it the name.
In any case... I'm kind of annoyed they put so few Kuuya scenes in. We could've used some red light district and "good in the bedroom" action ;o Not to mention how a somewhat important character was supposed to have been introduced by now. :/
Deathkillz
2006-07-26, 16:34
@ Deathkillz
They agreed to keep it because Eruruu (or Oboro) just became it's new master :D... the name thing ;)... that and Oboro needs its liver... you noticed the killer glitter in his eye when he was convincing Hakuoro to buy it...
i dnt think oboro would be using the little guy's liver now cause his sister wont let him...or he might try to kill it but ends in a comical fasion...getting smacked by touka or something :p
Sinestra
2006-07-26, 18:56
funny episode no matter how you look at it. i know i dont need to say but the whole situation with Oboro and the twins was just too funny. and after much speculation on their gender i have reached my conclusion THEY DONT HAVE ONE or they are both
Eruruu was cute as usual did anyone notice how every time Hakuoro praised her skill she tail was wagging like a hundred miles per hour to match the speed of her mixing bowl i almost died. My girl Karura was drunk AGAIN and she was totally hitting on Hakuoro she is so funny i have enjoyed the series more every since she joined the cast. Should guessed that Hakuoro's little masked visitor was a girl Hakuoro attracts women like a pot head to taco bell at 2am.
I am not sure if i heard right but the guy that comes and gets Hakuoro did she say he was also an Evinkuruga?
Out of everything the part that made this episode for me was Touka making this face. http://www.badongo.com/pic/246449
Next episode looks good seems like Hakuoro and the rest of the gang are either helping are starting a revloution in the country where she came from. IT would make sense if she was slave there must be more like her she would want to go back and save them she might have asked Hakuoro for help
no common sense
2006-07-26, 19:44
Seeing Touka's cute feminine side was win. Her expressions were all priceless. Drunken Karura hitting on Hakuoro was also awesome.
Did anyone else think of this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/benkoval/Jewish.jpg
No wonder she thinks Hakuoro is also Jewish, who else can appear suddenly making barren mountainous desert fertile, overthrow the local kleptocracy and own invading countries much larger than itself:p
I'm not curtain about the twins’ gender but I think they are male. So that makes any guys that have thought dirty things about them gay too, but which is nothing to be ashamed of since even my entire flight of basics was heard singing "It's raining men" while showering in the bathroom together :heh:.
^
I admit, I really like Touka quite a bit more now, after this episode. She was very cute in some scenes.
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-07-26, 23:35
I think dopey-looking wing ears = Evinkuruga.
Hakuoro thought Genjimaru was an Evinkuruga, Kuuya didn't contradict him, so I guess he is an Evinkuruga.
I've only played the minigame, but Genjimaru seems to be an upgraded version of Touka.
Yup... but you know I have to wonder what the heck sneaky person whispered to Oboro and Hakuoro... :eyebrow:
Erm I think he was whispering the price of Gacha to them; doh, I'm late. Anyhow smart really; let someone name it; then conveniently choose that moment to drop the info that the one who named it would be its master for life, Hakuoro was trapped nicely. :D
Genchimaru is an Evinkuruga.. how he was so insistent on protecting Kuuya is really similiar to how Touka was also so insistent on protecting Hakuoro at the earlier part of the episode. So if both of them get married (I was getting those vibes from Kuuya); that would be pretty cool... TWO Evinkurugas protecting your family.
@no common sense: You resident @$$-hole! :p No actually I had another idea for that scene, see if I want to photoshop it later.
Erm I think he was whispering the price of Gacha to them; doh, I'm late. Anyhow smart really; let someone name it; then conveniently choose that moment to drop the info that the one who named it would be its master for life, Hakuoro was trapped nicely. :D
Genchimaru is an Evinkuruga.. how he was so insistent on protecting Kuuya is really similiar to how Touka was also so insistent on protecting Hakuoro at the earlier part of the episode. So if both of them get married (I was getting those vibes from Kuuya); that would be pretty cool... TWO Evinkurugas protecting your family.
@no common sense: You resident @$$-hole! :p No actually I had another idea for that scene, see if I want to photoshop it later.
Hmm if kuuya gets married to hakuoro, wouldnt kuuya's tribe become under the rule of hakuoro?! Imagine hakuoro using marriage to conquer the world... :heh: :twitch:
Yep, that would happen. As for conquering the world by marriage, well, I cant exactly see him getting married to Niwe... :p
thundrakkon
2006-07-27, 11:07
Thanks Xellos-_^ and PGilis for the clarification concerning Aruruu's power origins. For some reason, I feel like Carbuncle is another one of those really powerful mystical beasts, like Mukura. Imagine Aruruu's building her own powerful army of beasts to kick anyone who wants to hurt Daddy.
Thanks Xellos-_^ and PGilis for the clarification concerning Aruruu's power origins. For some reason, I feel like Carbuncle is another one of those really powerful mystical beasts, like Mukura. Imagine Aruruu's building her own powerful army of beasts to kick anyone who wants to hurt Daddy.
Whats Carbuncle??? Gacha?
Aruruu the cute beastmaster + army of invincible beasts = WIN! You know, with Gacha she as good as has an army. Mukuru = owns Land units. I imagine Gacha = owns Sea and Air units. :heh:
Xellos-_^
2006-07-27, 12:10
Whats Carbuncle??? Gacha?
Carbucle is a GF form Final Fantasy 8. It is rabbit like creature with a jewel in the middle of it is forehead. When you summon it, it will jump out of the ground and cast reflect on everyone. Prety useless in combat but got some nice junction abilities.
I thought the anti-drunk potion mix part was funny. Can you imagine something super sweet being poured into someting you had to drink after you were drunk?
:heh: .
Kuuya "never speak his name infront of me again!" - 1 second later "witsarnemitea was a false god?" :D
Ok percisly when Kuuya Amururineuruka took off her face coverings - I saw sakura-chan from ts chron.. the same faces seen in OP song. Changed after she started moving around and talking.
As the twins go for oboro there when he was talking about 'when it comes to these two, oh god' part. both of those twins appear to have 'female' hair styles and their names also ended with 'female' like letters - Dorii, Gura.
both certainly looked female as they were pictured laying there covered with the blanket.
when they are listening to oboro explain, they both gleefully put their hands up and their eyes radiate - have to be females here.
I sure hope for oboro they are. who knows maybe they can change forms as needed hehe.
BTW, awsome graphics and exceptional action. there is lots of movement all over. nice not having a all static background.
Kuuyu's dialogue with Hakuoro made me look up the earlier episodes with Urutori. It seems that there is an ideological difference between Kuuyu's country and that of those under the winged people domain. Even Benawi follows Wita~'s teachings.
Not only that, but when I went to examine the OP, Kuuyu appears in the "we're the villains" shot( along with a glowing-red-eyed silent winged guy( right-hand man of Yue/Niwe)). Genji is there too, along with the leader of the winged people. Some of them are going to appear in Ep18, judging from the preview, which only leaves one mystery guy. The one at the middle bottom, dressed in blue. I wonder who the heck he is.
So... I guess this means that Kuuyu is going to be one of the main antagonists? Hehe, that would fun...
Cheers.
So that meant genjimaru will hve to face all of hakuaro's fighters...
when I went to examine the OP, Kuuyu appears in the "we're the villains" shot( along with a glowing-red-eyed silent winged guy( right-hand man of Yue/Niwe)). Genji is there too, along with the leader of the winged people. Some of them are going to appear in Ep18, judging from the preview, which only leaves one mystery guy. The one at the middle bottom, dressed in blue. I wonder who the heck he is.
So... I guess this means that Kuuyu is going to be one of the main antagonists? Hehe, that would fun...
No, i think that were the "others, non-protagonists characters". Remember Genjimaru is an Evinkuruga, so he must fight just for justice. Unless he's a traitor or misunderstood Hakuoro again, i don't believe he will fight against him.
Overall, quite a nice and relaxed episode to deliver us from all the worries and angst that built during the Shikeripetim arc.
Yuzuha's voice is soothing to the point that I felt a bit sleepy.
For being a girl certainly Kuuya acts like a little boy, who can be easily impressed with tattle-tales.
From whom or where did she listen to all those rumors or bad stories about Hakuoro?
Oboro's bad day flow consistently through most of the episode.
His hangover from passing out cold along with the twins :D , having no other choice to comply Hakuoro in gulping Eruruu's misfit and mismatched remedy, and to top his great weakness- being hated by his little sister due wanting to skewer Gachatara for its liver.
And not even mentioning Touka whose ego regressed to spoiled, little girl wanting to keep on playing and cuddling Gachatara.
KaneDragon
2006-07-28, 09:45
Touka isn't a spoiled little girl. I want to cuddle Gachatara, too. ;_;
Not only that, but when I went to examine the OP, Kuuyu appears in the "we're the villains" shot.
Well, you can also see the merchant in that shot , who is hardly a villain.
KaneDragon
2006-07-28, 12:44
Well, he was spying on Hakuoro earlier on, and the whole "I could have killed you if I were an assassin". Plus I'm sure the price he named for Gatcha was outrageous. :p
PastPrime
2006-07-28, 12:59
Kuuyu's dialogue with Hakuoro made me look up the earlier episodes with Urutori. It seems that there is an ideological difference between Kuuyu's country and that of those under the winged people domain. Even Benawi follows Wita~'s teachings.
I wonder if that could be the difference in the White Wings and the Black Wings. Perhaps, normally, the Black Wing people follow Kuuyu's god.
Touka isn't a spoiled little girl. I want to cuddle Gachatara, too. ;_;
Cachatara is cute, but I wanna cuddle with Touka...and Eruuruu...and Dorii and Gura...and Kamyu...and Urutori...hehe. =3
I'd mention Karura for the cuddles, but she wouldn't go for that, for sure. She'd get freaky deaky, and pretty much make me (and most any guy) her little puppet and/or plaything. That...hmm...such a thing would be both :eek: and :D, and if you are man enough for her (few would be), it'd simply be a case of :naughty: and such. :heh:
Well, he was spying on Hakuoro earlier on, and the whole "I could have killed you if I were an assassin". Plus I'm sure the price he named for Gatcha was outrageous. :p
Much less that Gachatara went crazy when Oboro had just looked at it wrong. Could only wonder what would happen should it encounter "the Beast".
Guy's very dirty IMO. And with the "spying" long ago, be that if it holds true to be what that really was, probably not gone unchecked, as Benawi probably already has his eye on him. ...Which this merchant as well would likely know. But what we don't know, I think, is on how many are aware of that "Beast".
thundrakkon
2006-07-29, 03:59
Cachatara is cute, but I wanna cuddle with Touka...and Eruuruu...and Dorii and Gura...and Kamyu...and Urutori...hehe. =3
Dorii and Gura? I thought you firmly believed that they are male in the anime? I am seeing some Oboro action here...
I wonder if that could be the difference in the White Wings and the Black Wings. Perhaps, normally, the Black Wing people follow Kuuyu's god.
That's an interesting observation, and it seems to make sense. Now, it would be even more of a shocker if the secret power that Kuuya mentions is actually found or related to Kamyu somehow. I actually want to see more of Kamyu's story now, when I think about it.
At last I saw Touka cute side when the merchant brought them the cute animal.
Yep, that would happen. As for conquering the world by marriage, well, I cant exactly see him getting married to Niwe... :p
If the ruler isnt female, hakuro can always hope there is a princess to marry instead...
If there is none then, he always have demon mode as a backup...:heh:
So that meant genjimaru will hve to face all of hakuaro's fighters...
That would make for a very interesting scene.
For being a girl certainly Kuuya acts like a little boy, who can be easily impressed with tattle-tales.
From whom or where did she listen to all those rumors or bad stories about Hakuoro?
She is quite young, if you haven noticed :) Does fit her, age- and gender-wise. In anycase, she does go on and on like an excited little girl.
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Dorii and Gura? I thought you firmly believed that they are male in the anime? I am seeing some Oboro action here...
I wouldnt mind cuddling them actually... think of it as cuddling Shippou of Inuyasha; a little ruffling of fur here, a little tail playing there. Just dont let them get you drunk.
Asianknight82
2006-07-29, 13:03
Carbucle is a GF form Final Fantasy 8. It is rabbit like creature with a jewel in the middle of it is forehead. When you summon it, it will jump out of the ground and cast reflect on everyone. Prety useless in combat but got some nice junction abilities.
Um... no... Carbuncle is also the term given to a mythical beast reportedly sighted in the Americas by early Spanish conquistadors. Although no firm eyewitness accounts are available, they have been described as small creatures, either birds or mammals. It is certain that they wear gems on their foreheads; such gems come from the brains of dragons. According to myth, dragons have inside their brain a liquid that crystallizes into a solid gem when they die. According to superstition, it is good luck to catch a carbuncle. Originally spelt "Carbunkel".
Just FYI, all summons in FF games as well as any RPGs, are based off of mythology of the real world. Anyways, great episode, it seems like its jumping back into action again quite quickly.
Oh, Kuuyu is not a bad guy, If you've played the adventure game, you'd know that shes a good guy.
Dorii and Gura? I thought you firmly believed that they are male in the anime? I am seeing some Oboro action here...
'Tis true. Hey, I'm straight, but I have no problem admitting to how cute they are. :p Plus, I have a weakness for catgirls and dog girls and catboys and dog boys. They sometimes refer to it as "Mimi" characters, mimi being Japanese for ears, and this refers to anime characters that have a few animal-type traits, such as cat, dog, or bunny ears, animal-type tails, and wings, and so forth. Think of characters like Aisha from Outlaw Star or Inuyasha, or...most of the main characters of Utawarerumono. :heh: I love anime characters of this type.
Xellos-_^
2006-07-29, 23:51
Oh, Kuuyu is not a bad guy, If you've played the adventure game, you'd know that shes a good guy.
Kuuya is not a guy. She is a very cute girl :D
Aw... I have not played any of the Utawarerumono games, and I was trying to have a bit of fun speculating. :(
Xellos-_^
2006-07-30, 00:32
Aw... I have not played any of the Utawarerumono games, and I was trying to have a bit of fun speculating. :(
When was the last time a cute girl was a villan.
When was the last time a cute girl was a villan.
Hmmm, I suppose the ones from Nanoha sorta count? :p
Xellos-_^
2006-07-30, 01:23
Hmmm, I suppose the ones from Nanoha sorta count? :p
The weren't evil just misunderstood. so no they don't count :p
Wind~A Breath of Heart comes to mind. There was Ilya from F/SN too. Lucy from Elfen Lied. Flay from Gundam SEED. Etc...
Wind~A Breath of Heart comes to mind. There was Ilya from F/SN too. Lucy from Elfen Lied. Flay from Gundam SEED. Etc...
Well Flay wasn't really a villain.... just a really disturbed girl. Ilya becomes friendly later on. Now that girl from Wind, on the other hand, really creeped me out later in the series.
PastPrime
2006-07-30, 18:06
Wind~A Breath of Heart comes to mind. There was Ilya from F/SN too. Lucy from Elfen Lied. Flay from Gundam SEED. Etc...
Ilya was too cute to take seriously as an evil villain and Lucy was as much a victim as those she killed. Kakuzawa was the real evil villain in Elfen Lied.
thundrakkon
2006-07-31, 10:28
When was the last time a cute girl was a villan.
How about Shion from Higurashi?
Btw, how young is Kuuya? She looks no older than 12 from what I can tell. Wouldn't that sort of be "rocking the cradle" for Hakuoro if she joins his harem and expand his empire?
Asianknight82
2006-07-31, 12:08
Well way back when, As soon as a girl is able to conceive a child she is married. Due to short life expectancy from war, plague and famine, it was common for a girl as young as ten to be married and having children. It was only until the last 100 and some years that people started to set an age (in america) for sexual relations. Globally though, 16 seems to be the O.K. age, but 18 is better, sorta mentality.
Hmmm... ages in Utawarerumono? Let's see...
Obviously Aruruu is the youngest of them all. I remember i saw in someplace - maybe in a game spoiler - Hakuoro thought Kamyuu is around 2 or maybe 3 years older than Aruruu. And she is A LOT well endowed compared to Aruruu. Heck, she even beat Eruruu! :D So she must be a teen (with some raging hormones :heh: ) and Aruruu a preteen.
As for Dorii & Guraa, they're probably on a age still can be confused as boys or girls. Yet they can fight, so they're probably a little older than Aruruu. All in all, in my opinion, they must be:
GIRLS
*Aruruu = 10-12
*Kamyuu = 14-15
*Yuzuha = 16
*Kuuya = 17-18
*Eruruu = 18-19
*Touka = 21-22
*Kakura = 24-25
*Urutorii = 25-27
*Sopokku = 28-30
BOYS
*Hakuoro = 24-25
*Oboro = 18-19
*Benawi = 28-30
*Kurou = 31-33
*Nuwangi = 19-20
*Teoro = 34-37
NOT SURE YET (I.M.O., they're hard Gay boys :p )
*Dorii & Guraa = 13~14
That's just my opinion. I have no clues except those i quoted. ;)
hmm i thot oboro was more like 20 or 21 and though of benawi as a young genius sort of thing so about like 24? and kurou seems way too old in ur prediction... i thougth more like mid to late 20's
KaneDragon
2006-07-31, 19:57
Hmm... agree on Aruruu and Hakuoro, knock off two years from Kuuya and Eruruu. Not sure about the garchers, since they are young in appearance, but they are archers, so I guess I'll settle with your guess. Don't care too much about the others.
SvenTheSweeper
2006-07-31, 23:34
Harem Anime Checklist for Utawarerumono up to Episode 17:
1) Group of girls with different personalities-Check!
2) Jail bait loli characters (Aruru, Yuzuha)-Check!
3) Moe-Check!
4) All the girls like or are at least friendly with the lead male character (Hakuoro)-Check!
5) A main female character (Eruruu) who love the Male lead (Hakuoro)-Check!
6) Tsun-dere character (Touka)-Check!
7) Cute Mascot finally introduced (Gatchatara)-Check!
8) Big house, mansion, or palace where everybody lives or hangs out-Check!
9) Wishy-washy milquetoast everyman loser lead male character(??????)-Missing. Oops!
Maybe the enemy will be plotting to turn Hakuro into a loser male lead character.:p
Feel free to add more!:heh:
Harem Anime Checklist for Utawarerumono up to Episode 17:
1) Group of girls with different personalities-Check!
2) Jail bait loli characters (Aruru, Yuzuha)-Check!
3) Moe-Check!
4) All the girls like or are at least friendly with the lead male character (Hakuoro)-Check!
5) A main female character (Ururu) who love the Male lead (Hakuoro)-Check!
6) Tsun-dere character (Touka)-Check!
7) Cute Mascot finally introduced (Gatchatara)-Check!
8) Big house, mansion, or palace where everybody lives or hangs out-Check!
9) Wishy-washy milquetoast everyman loser lead male character(???)-Missing. Oops!
Maybe the enemy will be plotting to turn Hakuro into a loser male lead character.:p
Feel free to add more!:heh:
10. Night of passion and wild threesome made possible by booze - Check! :heh:
I'd say Teoro is at least late 40s, maybe even 50.
11. Hakuoro "taking out" (or being taken out by) each of his harem - Missing.
Is this really the right place for this? :heh:
hmm i thot oboro was more like 20 or 21 and though of benawi as a young genius sort of thing so about like 24? and kurou seems way too old in ur prediction... i thougth more like mid to late 20's
All the age guesses are suspect in that we have no idea what the average lifespan is in this world nor when people are assumed to be "of age" ... nor do we know if the nutrition alters when they enter puberty. Prior to the industrial age, it was very common for boys and girls to couple up as early as 12-14.... in hunting societies, as soon as the male succeeded in his first hunt, in agricultural settings it might be delayed longer because the labor was needed on the parent's farm.
Many of the ancient peoples you read about were in their teens or early 20s ... very few lived past 40. I'd be surprised if Teoro was more than 30-35 given the pre-Edo/Ainu/DarkAge-like setting.
Also.. this is a fantasy setting and there are some aspects more in the vein of science fiction I understand this is actually set in the far far future after a good deal of genetic manipulation because of some terrible war so pretty much all bets are off. Hell, the average lifespan might be 200 and no one hits puberty until 50.... :)
Whoa, Vexx, definately emphasive that that is a major spoiler by giving a bigger warning. I read it, and it sounds like the story is going to get much more interesting, but for people who don't know the storyline of the whole series, don't read that spoiler, it is a biggie. :)
Asianknight82
2006-08-01, 12:59
Um, the twins are at least 16, They're old enough to give Oboro a "hell of a fun time" :P, I dont think you confusing them as boys have anything to do with their age XD.
FatPianoBoy
2006-08-01, 13:15
don't read that spoiler, it is a biggie. :)
Now they tell me :rolleyes:
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Unless (or until) it's explained through the story, I don't rack my brain trying to figure out when/where stories take place. It doesn't really have much impact on the development of the characters, although it can heavily effect the plot.
Nevertheless, don't read that spoiler. It's a freaking A-bomb.
Deathkillz
2006-08-01, 14:48
haha not even fricking sherlock or Einstein would have figured out the spoiler...thats the inpact it got...now my head hurts :eyespin:
Cardiac Glycoside
2006-08-01, 19:10
I've heard of that spoiler elsewhere yet D don't see how it make that much of a difference. It's like Phantasy Star III's plot twist, sort of--
You find out that your world is a gigantic spaceship, even though the rest of the game is a medievalish type background. But the futuristicness isn't that much of a spoiler isn't much of a spoiler, since the first character to join you is a cyborg.
ChainLegacy
2006-08-01, 19:35
Yeah, I clicked on that spoiler thinking it wasn't important or was some small tidbit relevant to the discussion... What I got was one of the biggest anime surprises I've heard in a long time.
Vexx needs something done to him. ;)
Onizuka-GTO
2006-08-01, 21:17
I for one was not vexxed at all by vexx's spoiler, although I can understand how it could be vexxing to others but never-a-less, I agree. Vexx need something done to him.
Add more tailgrabbing. woohoo.
:D :D
I for one wants to see Aruruu have a tailgrab with Hakuoro, shame a daft little vermin took up the whole episode. :D
FatPianoBoy
2006-08-01, 22:48
Indeed. If a spoiler doesn't have a warning on it then I assume that it's a lengthy analysis/theory or a spoiler for that specific episode. A warning is all I ask for.
Just need to say as a girl I am:
You guys are probably tired of hearing about Oboro and the twins by now but still. I enjoy in some exstend shounen-ai, but this was quite a shock! I mean, the twins made their master drink so much, took off their own AND his clothes and jumped to bed naked together... Kinda nasty. Either way if the twins are girls or boys (I belive they are boys though). And they have aboulutly no respect for their master for doing so. *laughs*
But still, some change of space from the overload of girls and undertones of shoujo-ai was very okay for me.
But I can't imagine a show for my aduience (girls) when suddenly three girls jumps in the same bed naked. I would go like "wtf? Isn't this a show for girls to enjoy pretty boys with eachother"?
Dark Faith
2006-08-17, 20:05
Oh dear.. I just watched this episode... I hadn't laughed like this in a long, long time. Touka(sp?) was just priceless
Yes the scene with twin was pretty funny.
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