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hi no ken Jebus
2006-08-01, 12:51
-Inoue is healing matsumoto when a mysterious person shows up
-more ichigo getting his ass kicked by kariya
-kariya explains how the bount are a creation of SS and how they were used by them hence why they seek revenge
-kariya threatens to stab ichigo with his zanpakutoh but then ichigo calls out to zangetsu and after some cheesy speech about wanting the power to protect he goes ban kai
-ichinose wants to jump in and help but he has the gate preparations
-ishida shows up with his temp powers, he helps the bount open the door to SS, kariya thinks he did it because he's for their cause, however ishida says he's doing it for his reasons
-the bount head to SS and kariya tells ichigo and ishida to follow, afterwards yoruichi with craptacular hisagi show up
-yoruichi lectures ishida for his actions, he explains that his powers are limited but if they fight in SS they are amplified, yoruichi tells him that goes for the bount as well
-matsumoto calls histugaya to get permission and ichigo says let's go to SS
-episode ends with kariya coming out of the gate somewhere over seireitei saying time to start his revenge
-shinigami cup was the conversation matsumoto had with histugaya which was funny
:heh:Don't get me wrong it was a good episode as far as this filler goes but it was full of that shonen cheese:eyespin:
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Please do not discuss anything past episode 91, or else you risk a ban. Don't even post future episode titles. Even tags are no defense.
Whatever reasons Ishida did what he did, then are concerned to the Shinigami's fault.
After all, they were the Shinigami who came later to handle a hand to his grandfather, and the latter ultimately got killed by hollows.
The loss of Yoshino indirectly can be attributed to SS for having tampered nature to create the Bount.
Does it look like Kariya wants to get even at SS for his wretched existence? or has another ulterior motive?
Omniscient
2006-08-01, 14:05
Episode 91 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/08/01/bleach-91/)
Well this wasn't quite as exciting as I would have hoped. As hi no ken stated, there was a lot of cheesiness this episode backed up by more dialogue than I would have thought for an action episode.
bkzjester
2006-08-01, 17:48
rip off from dbz? "I want more power, ahh! super saiyan (in this case, bankai)" :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
A, that's a shame. I was expecting a good episode. Seems that's not the case.
Ishida sure comes across as a selfish twat. But, I'll forgive if we get to see Kenpachi kick Ichinose's butt. -nod nod-
Thewanderer
2006-08-01, 21:45
I can't wait to see it. Sounds like a decent episode as far as dialogue eps go.
Ishida sure comes across as a selfish twat. But, I'll forgive if we get to see Kenpachi kick Ichinose's butt. -nod nod-Forgive Ishida for a cool Kenpachi/Ichinose fight?http://www.tfans.com/talk/style_emoticons/default/slytf.gif:confused:
I can't wait to see it. Sounds like a decent episode as far as dialogue eps go.
Forgive Ishida for a cool Kenpachi/Ichinose fight?http://www.tfans.com/talk/style_emoticons/default/slytf.gif:confused:
I'll give my forgiveness to those who make the episodes. Since they would've 'redeemed' themselves, I guess.
Thewanderer
2006-08-01, 22:47
I'll give my forgiveness to those who make the episodes. Since they would've 'redeemed' themselves, I guess.Yes, of coursehttp://www.tfans.com/talk/style_emoticons/default/redface2tf.gif
Anyway, I'm still looking forward to all the juicy SS battles that will ensue now. Ichinose/Kenpachi, Ishida/Kariya, etc. Not to mention Byakuya and Hitsugaya battling... the other Bound. >.<
I can't bring myself to get excited about a Byakuya fight. I just can't see him losing at all to any of those Bountos that would be left for him. I think he'd just beat them way too quickly. And if he doesn't, then I'd be sad. So either way I don't win.
Thewanderer
2006-08-01, 23:37
I can't bring myself to get excited about a Byakuya fight. I just can't see him losing at all to any of those Bountos that would be left for him. I think he'd just beat them way too quickly. And if he doesn't, then I'd be sad. So either way I don't win.He might have a li'l fun if fighting two...
Actually, I just thought of the possibility of that emo Bound's doll taking over someone's body again... maybe Byakuya will fight someone stronger after all:D
astrallionheart
2006-08-02, 01:22
If these Bount really suck up spirit energy like batteries, then it might not even be inconceivable that it would take more than a few captains to take them down.
ichigoismyhomie
2006-08-02, 01:27
Anyway, I'm still looking forward to all the juicy SS battles that will ensue now. Ichinose/Kenpachi, Ishida/Kariya, etc. Not to mention Byakuya and Hitsugaya battling... the other Bound. >.<
errm......i dunno if those lame bountos are worthy opponents for byakuya and hitsugaya. They might be strong, but those two captains are one of the ace captains from the gotei 13. Maybe if that mad-scientist captain or that hippy lookin captain fight those lame bounto it would seems reasonable. Beside that mad-scientist captain probably has something to do with that explosion that supposely gave birth for those bountos.
But to take out the top tier captains for those underlings? seems kinda over kill for me. Ichinose/kenpachi fight should be the highlight of this arc (i mean....filler). also that selfish ishida bastard kicking kariya's pale behind have to be another big fight for this one too. I think those vice-captains should be able to those low level bountos since they won't have any restriction over their power in Soul Society. Dammit....why the story keep dragging on and on forever. Even the manga is heading towards a posible crappy arc......
Is it just me or the thing inside the tube that caused the explosion look a lot like hogyokou? could that be those bounto are by-product from the creation of hogyokou?
Thewanderer
2006-08-02, 01:49
errm......i dunno if those lame bountos are worthy opponents for byakuya and hitsugaya. They might be strong, but those two captains are one of the ace captains from the gotei 13. Maybe if that mad-scientist captain or that hippy lookin captain fight those lame bounto it would seems reasonable. Beside that mad-scientist captain probably has something to do with that explosion that supposely gave birth for those bountos.
But to take out the top tier captains for those underlings? seems kinda over kill for me. Ichinose/kenpachi fight should be the highlight of this arc (i mean....filler). also that selfish ishida bastard kicking kariya's pale behind have to be another big fight for this one too. I think those vice-captains should be able to those low level bountos since they won't have any restriction over their power in Soul Society. Dammit....why the story keep dragging on and on forever. Even the manga is heading towards a posible crappy arc......Don't forget the mind control doll that orange-haired Bound has... it could easily take control of Byakuya if what they said is true about SS powering them up(the doll gains speed + stronger hold on host's mind).
If Byakuya, or even Hitsugaya gets taken, then there'll be something to worry about...
what if the emo bount takes control of Zaraki and so forces him to listen to his zanpaktu? Then have him go Ban-kai? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Will be interesting. There won't be a cat and mouse game anymore. The bount are in SS and ready to attack. This will just be an all out brawl with a cliché shocker about whatever info mayuri was hiding...
Still looking forward to the fights.
Just when I thought it was getting close to the end of the shi---I mean, fillers they add a twist that will no doubt mean months more of really bad story, really bad animation, and extremely bad dialogue.
:sad:
ichigoismyhomie
2006-08-02, 03:56
Just when I thought it was getting close to the end of the shi---I mean, fillers they add a twist that will no doubt mean months more of really bad story, really bad animation, and extremely bad dialogue.
:sad:
now now.....the filler itself wasn't half bad either. sure they have some bad episodes where everything was just like.......aw shit....i wasted 23 min of my life watching this crap.:bash:
but they usually only give out crappy episode every other week......or maybe every other couple weeks.........besides i think they only doing this until the movie is launch on japan this winter. so.......10 months of fillers is not that bad.......compare to almost 2 years like some other anime out there........:naughty: (y'all know which one it is)
Soo umm.. like 5 more weeks of bountos right.. maybe 6.
When Ichigo started going bankai I was hoping big explosion, good way to redeem themselves, bring it on!! And then sadly dissapointed. Was cool he stopped the attacks so easily when he just used his sword but eh..
at least its the 3rd appearance of bankai ichigo on the fight. it was good. deflecting and having a cut on kariya's face lol.
now lets maybe see 4th apperance of bankai ichigo in SS.maybe ishida + ichigo do the resolve on killing some baddies = kariya of coz
that bankai seems overpowered...
to get bashed that much by kariya the ep b4 and now this? lol
that bankai seems overpowered...
to get bashed that much by kariya the ep b4 and now this? lol
Eh bankai is meant to overpowered. Something that is suppose to take thousands of years to obtain should be....
Suddenly this filler dosen't seem that bad at all. Hope the SS part of the filler wont disappoint
that bankai seems overpowered...
to get bashed that much by kariya the ep b4 and now this? lol
Except the bontou are going to get A LOT stronger since in Soul Society. Hence the reason to call all shinigami to aid them in the fight.
reinloch
2006-08-02, 11:30
The Bounts never have a chance. There is always Hichigo...in Bankai mode. I hope he would appear and tear the fatty, then Kariya apart.
Deathkillz
2006-08-02, 12:56
first half was cool (kariya = DBZ villian ripoff)...but the 2nd half completely fcked it up...and it was flowing good at the start =.=
btw wheres the preview for next week? O.o *hopes for 1 hour special*
Wut theeeeeeeeee, what a lame episode
Seems like they pulled that Ishida plot out of their ares' :rolleyes:
Wut theeeeeeeeee, what a lame episode
Seems like they pulled that Ishida plot out of their ares' :rolleyes:
It actually seemed to me it's been kinda obvious for a while now. Not only is Ishida not exactly best friends with the Shinigami, especially Mayuri, but there was no way the good guys stood a chance on Earth.
I don't see how Kariya is a DBZ villain rip-off. Because he uses his hands instead of a sword? Okaaaaay.
And everyone saying LOL BYA + HITSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BOUNTO obviously missed how many times Hitsugaya got absolutly plastered by everyone last arc, and how the Bounto basically have instant Wolverine-esque regeneration in Soul Society. Oh, and the fact that Kariya ~= Bankai Ichigo on Earth, who last I remembered, did pretty well in a fight against Bya.
So, yeah, maybe less fanboyism over all would make this thread a better read.
shikamarufoo
2006-08-02, 21:12
Let's see...A plot twist and then a main character change...What's going on???
Actually I liked this episode and can't wait for all the SS captain fights, though it seems it might take more than one captain to fight one bounto IMO...I was hoping Ichigo didn't have to use bankai (not like in Naruto where he used Rasengan in nearly all the fillers), but it's cool since it's only been used once and seems like it'll be used just once more in SS.
Overall 8.5/10~
now im not sure if this goes into a spoiler but i have a theory.
maybe hichigo takes control and defeats kariya. and taht leads to the manga where ichigo is worried about the hollow inside of him.
of course its just my geuss..
To tell you the truth not all the conversation parts were cheesy or dragged when I read of them at Omni's blog.
For me was interesting to know the full account about the birth of the Bount and why SS never took responsibility for the experiments they did on mortal souls.
In fact, they established another nice twist that the whole project, although collectively engineered by the frustrated scientists of the Research department, came from the idea of a single Shinigami.
Of course to keep on the suspense, Kariya did not reveal the name of the bastard Shinigami who is directly responsible for coming up with the whole mess.
And there's another more twist coherently elaborated. Kurotsuchi made preparations for handling Nemu to deliver the Quincy bracelet accesory to Ishida.
One would want to ponder if Kurotsuchi knew beforehand that the Bount are able to open up rifts between dimensions after consuming a high level of living souls? or did he gain that knowledge after accessing the old Bount records?
In previous episodes, Kariya was expectantly waiting for SS messengers to approach Ishida for a getaway to recover the Quincy powers.
What's implied for Kurotsuchi that he deduced from his Quincy research that Quincy, unlike Bount, can manipulate spirit particles and absorbing them into their body, thus converting their bodies into reishi.
So, maybe I speculate that Kurotsuchi extended a getaway for Ishida, in need of power and helpless for being a burden, to restore temporarily his powers. Then, predicted that Ishida will use his conversion ability to allow the Bount access to SS, which the lad did so firing his arrow into the Senkai portal that Koga unlocked.
I felt a bit sympathetic for their brethen upon hearing their side of the story.
The Ichigo memory flashback parts of the Hollow and Soul Society arcs were those unnecesary and recycled, that I agree did no contributions at all. However, the Zangetsu parts were a welcome since it's been a long for Zangetsu appearing again into the show. Besides, I'm happy that the music scores from the previous two arcs returned.
And I believe we have a few, satisfying minutes of fighting between Kariya and Ichigo (Bankai) evenly matched, though not a full climax.:eyebrow:
NoSanninWa
2006-08-03, 00:51
Soo umm.. like 5 more weeks of bountos right.. maybe 6.
I'm expecting it to end between episodes 100 and 104, so I'd say about 10 more weeks of bounds.
I'm expecting it to end between episodes 100 and 104, so I'd say about 10 more weeks of bounds.
I'm actually predicting to finish up at episode 102, that would sum 39 episodes alloted to the Bount arc, though it would be better if ending by episode 100.
One thing I can be certain that the next arc picking from the manga would start on October when new anime begins at the fall season.
NoSanninWa
2006-08-03, 01:22
One thing I can be certain that the next arc picking from the manga would start on October when new anime begins at the fall season.
:D That's exactly why I chose that numerical range! :D
i like bankai and owns wannabe winners ;)
ichi's bankai seemed a bit premature, i was expecting the arc to end with ichi bankai owning kariya
And I believe we have a few, satisfying minutes of fighting between Kariya and Ichigo (Bankai) evenly matched, though not a full climax.:eyebrow:
The excitement Ichigo's Bankai would generate the first time when he did it, was simply lacking in this one. Probably that's the reason why some of the posters were wording Ichigo's dialogue with his Zangetsu "cheesy." Of course, Shounen-cheese is a must have delicacy, but if the presentation is lacking and the timing is all wrong, then its nothing but rotten cheese. However, watching Kariya fight was cool as he never seemed to take his hands out of his pocket till the last moment. Itchy crotch???
For me, the fight wasn't satisfying. And I really want to see if Ishida can back up his words by actually getting back at Kariya. Otherwise, he is just another Sasuke who is suffering from the lame tragic-hero-complex. Note that both of these characters, Sasuke & Ishida, are voiced by the same seiyuu.
By Bleach's standard, give this episode a whole 2 out of 5. Will not be looking forward to the next episode, but will watch anyway. :eyebrow: :heh:
in my opinion one of the scientists that had something to do with the creation of the bounto looked alot like byakuya, so maybe an ancestor?
scorpio516
2006-08-04, 12:30
However, watching Kariya fight was cool as he never seemed to take his hands out of his pocket till the last moment. Itchy crotch???
Maybe, before he merged, his doll was...
wait for it....
A giant crab! and it had little crab babbies :D :uhoh:
wingdarkness
2006-08-04, 23:53
The ep could have been better, Ichigo's bankai could have been more epic, but overall i guess I still liked this ep...Yeah it went almost 100% like Yuyu Hakusho Black Chapter with all but Ishida and company slicing the gate that stops A-class demons, but I still got alot of great action and was somewhat satisfied...Well now we get to see the Shinis vs. the Bountos, so I suspect the action will go into another gear once that starts, but I agree this ep didn't meet the high expectations I had going into it...
i wish ichigo did a bit more damage to kariya...
Yeah, sounds kinda weak. And what's the deal with Ishida... it doesn't look like he had a major power-up. Is he going to lose his powers again someway?
NoSanninWa
2006-08-07, 01:09
Yeah, sounds kinda weak. And what's the deal with Ishida... it doesn't look like he had a major power-up. Is he going to lose his powers again someway?
They said that the artifact he is using to maintain his powers is fragile, so there is a good chance of it. I hope not though, I really prefer the kick-ass, take no shinigami prisoner, Ishida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3rGGsCNu84
for u not to be bored, see bankai ichigo in fillers! :p!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY52pVtqY0A
:0 kariya crying :9!!
Wolfsbane68
2006-08-08, 06:31
My take on the eppy: Hardly qualifies as a twist when nobody expected the Bounts to invade Huego Mundi (sp?) in the first place due to the very real danger of screwing up the manga arc. And it I see the standard "I will lend your a hand with your nefarious plans/save your life so that *I* can kill later" one more time, it would be one time too many :-(
Thewanderer
2006-08-08, 15:11
is this a filler?Is this spam?
Seriously dude, look in other threads, which mention it constantly. Like the filler thread. And be glad that i'm even telling you this, because I don't appreceate people trying to judge episodes by the fact that they're filler or not.
Sinestra
2006-08-08, 21:27
yeah back to Soul Soceity hopefully will get see some serious fights now not just Ichigo get his assed owned by Kariya again and again. Im intrested to see how the pure soul captains handle themselves against the Bounto.
Thewanderer
2006-08-08, 23:07
yeah back to Soul Soceity hopefully will get see some serious fights now not just Ichigo get his assed owned by Kariya again and again. Im intrested to see how the pure soul captains handle themselves against the Bounto.The arc is almost over, so I'd bet that the Captains will PWN the other Bound, with Ichigo beating Kariya, of course. I'd say give it about a handful of episodes.
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